April 8, 2024 • 45 mins
Today, we're diving into a topic that's been a hot button issue for many: should Christian’s curse? Join me as I react to videos and address one of the most commonly asked questions I receive. As someone who's been in the public eye for quite some time, I understand the curiosity surrounding this topic, especially given my history of incorporating curse words into my music. Throughout this video, we'll delve deep into various perspectives, discussing the nuances of cursing as a Christian and the implications it holds.
We'll tackle a range of ideas, including the notions of judgment from both God and others, the significance of the heart according to Jesus, and the struggle between fitting in and staying true to one's faith. From exploring the concept of being perfect to understanding the power dynamics at play when speaking on a public platform, we'll leave no stone unturned. So, whether you're grappling with the idea of cursing as a Christian or simply curious about the debate, this video offers insights, reflections, and maybe even some answers.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
What's up, everybody, Welcome back to the podcast. On this podcast,
I answer your questions you email me podcast at grangersmith
dot com, and we walk through it like we're just
having a conversation, and the conversation could really be about anything, life, love,
the Bible. Ask me anything, and I'm going to answer
(00:31):
it like we're friends and we're trying to talk through something.
That's always what this podcast has been and what I'm
doing now for the second week in a row is
I'm taking a collection of the most popular questions that
gets asked on this podcast all of the time. Instead
of answering them individually over and over again, I'm gonna
(00:54):
for the second like last week was Eschatology, it was
like the End of Times. I get that. I get
asked that all the time, so I thought I would
just react to a few videos and give you my
thoughts on the end of Times. This week, I'm gonna
do something similar. I'm going to answer a question that
comes in all the time, and that is should Christians cuss?
(01:17):
I get that quite a bit, and I think probably
that there's a good reason I get that quite a bit,
and probably because if you go back over the last
decade or more two decades of my music, you hear
curse words in there, and it's like, hey, Granger, now
here you are all into the Bible, is it okay
(01:38):
for Christians to cuss or to listen to songs with
curse words in them? So, you know what, I think
that's a great question, And because I get it all
the time, I'm probably not going to answer every individual
one because they're all pretty much just like I just said.
So instead, let's use this episode and let's walk through
that question. And ant Man has now put together a
(02:00):
few videos. I think we have two videos here, so
I'll start with this. I'll watch these videos a little bit, pause, react,
and use that as kind of a platform to discuss
this topic with and then I'll give you my own
opinion after we walk through these videos. So this is
the first one. Let's hit play.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I actually I have a question for you, and I'm
just really curious your opinion on it. What do you
think about cussing? Yeah, but it'll take on it.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
So the reason why it doesn't affect my heart too
much is because I know my God doesn't judge like
swearing like that, and it minds you like yes, I do.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I have to change now. Okay, let me rephrase this.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I have to change now because God put me in
a place for me to be speaking, and I'm realizing
that I have to be better and more diligent with
my tongue because if I'm not that, I'm showing that
I'm not disciplined. Therefore, it gives room for the devil
to come and just move my tongue in his direction.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I'm gonna pause here and I'm just gonna say that
I will definitely address this idea of God judging or
other people judging. Well, we'll deal with that. But I'm
gonna I'm gonna wait a little bit longer. I'll keep
seeing what He's got to say here.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
So, yes, I have to be obedient on the tongue.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Now when I swear, if I say, I'll just say
if I say both like to me, I don't see
my God looking at me in the same way that
other people think my God is looking at me. Because
in the scripture says do not curse your neighbor. Now,
cursing isn't like like F this, f that, because an
effort here can mean something in a different language. Right,
(03:39):
it's your intent on how you're using it. I think
there's a difference even with my own child. If I'm
looking at my child and he stubs his toe as
like a four year old, oh like that to me,
I'm laughing like, oh, like, you shouldn't say that, versus
my son out in the street being like I'm gonna
few up and I'm gonna blah blah blah somebody.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I'm like, whoa, that's gonna come with some repercussions. My man, Like,
you can't talk like that.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
So I think, let me stop it right here. So
what we're going to deal with eventually on this on
this episode as well, is that there's like sliver, there's
a sliver of agreement I have with him here, and
that is that Jesus is looking on the heart. In fact,
that's when he comes in and we see this profound
(04:22):
sermon on the Mount that we read in Matthew, and
when he starts, he starts talking to the Pharisees and
the religious people, and what he's doing is he's saying,
you think you're following the law, and you think you're
doing good by following the law. For instance, you think
you're doing good by not murdering somebody. But did you
(04:43):
know that you hate your brother and your heart and
you're murdering them. You think you're doing good bye, not
committing adultery. But did you know that you just look
at a woman with lust and you've committed adultery in
the heart. So Jesus is always after the heart, and
he's always saying, look, it's not what you do, it's
your heart posture towards it. So the reason Jesus was
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doing this is to point out that we are a
lot more sinful, that we are a lot worse off
than we think we are on the outside just because
we act a certain way. Look how good I am looking.
I'm doing all the right things, I'm checking all the boxes.
And Jesus goes, uh, it's a lot worse than you think.
I'm looking at the heart. So in relation to this,
(05:27):
there's there's a sliver of truth in here that if I,
for instance, if I go up to a guy in Russia, right,
and I write out a four letter bad word in
English and I say, read this, and he's like he
doesn't know what it means, and he reads it. Oh,
it's not like, oh that's that's horrible. You just said
(05:47):
that word. Obviously he has no idea what the means.
So his heart posture is completely clean in that instance.
But but what this guy's saying, what George is saying,
is a little different than at he's actually saying the
words and saying there's a different context of saying the words.
Let's keep going here.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Saying is like, where's your intent with it? Like if like,
for example, if I'm talking to.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Some new Christians and they don't really get God, and
I'm talking to them about being perfect, and now I'm
watching them tune out. But then I go, but listen,
it's locking hard. And then they go, wait, what You're
like me, Oh, so you're not holier than that. You're
not perfect obviously now because you're swearing. Sometimes I use
(06:35):
it as a relatability, like I speak in their language.
It's hard to talk to somebody if you can't understand them,
and so I wasn't really too quick to fix my tongue.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I don't think that that's necessary. And if he's truly
saying like I'm doing whatever it takes to be relatable,
I don't think that's what he means. I think he's
just trying to be cool and fit in. And he
might have a good intention of why he wants to
fit in. But I think the better argument is if
(07:05):
you are. If you are so you're so zealous for
your God, and you're so obedient and yet joyful and
yet happy and yet understanding, and I think that's a
better way to be relatable. Then Man, I'm just like
a God, just like one of you guys, and I
also got this god thing going on. I don't think
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that's as inspiring as he thinks it might be.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Let's continue here, because I tell people all the time
they look at me as a preacher.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I ain't no preacher, did I'm a man who fears
God and loves to talk.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yes, you are. If you're speaking on a platform, you're
a preacher.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
If you have a massive platform, yeah, if it takes
you in the direction of that, then that's great.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
But to me, it's like my heart was like, I
like talking to people that don't know who God is
at all and like bringing them. I'm trying to be
a fisher of men, right, And I might talk like
a sailorman.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
And that's don't do that. I wouldn't go there. That's
like a silly cultural analogy. Fishermen and sailors. You know,
they're both on water, and they should both be able
to cuss, right, Like I wouldn't go there swear.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Like if you listen to any sailor, they're like, oh,
he cusses like a sailor. Like this, This is the
men that Jesus chose. Like you think Peter was walking
around with no filthy mouth like he was.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
It took him a bit. We don't know that to
like rein it in and be disciplined. I'm thirty one
years old and I just started. I guarantee you, when
I'm like forty, I'm probably not gonna be talking the
same way that I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, that's an interesting argument. He realizes it's probably not helpful,
it's probably not encouraging, it's probably not uplifting. But I
still got to get it out of my system for
the next ten years or so, and then it'll probably
be totally out of my system. He knows the argument
that he's making, so he's already kind of feeling a change.
He's already kind of feeling a tug, and no one's
(08:53):
even talked to him about it. He's convincing himself already.
This is interesting. Let's keep going.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
But it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
It doesn't make me toss and turn out night. There's
a lot of things that make me toss and turn
at night. That's just, honestly, just not one of them
from your now.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
We used to make fun of the Christians.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
We did, we made fun of We didn't come to
a whole.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Year than now Christian This we truly can't even say it.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
It's been probably I don't know how long that I
can't get an effort out of my mouth. It physically
can't come out of my mouth.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
And you know what, like she said something that made
it's gonna my wheels are going like crazy, let's go.
When you said it made me cringe, I never really
pictured making anybody cringe from my mouth. And if I'm
talking about God and I make them cringe, that's a problem.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I think of the scripture. Sorry, I just I think
of the scripture that's set.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
So look at his face. Look at his face right
here where I paused it. I love how he said
the wheels are turning. And this is very interesting to
watch as he is I kind of recognized that as
he's kind of explaining his best way to justify while
he why he does speak like a sailor, like you said,
(10:08):
and then as that his own personal justification starts to
kind of crumble a little bit. Look at his face,
and I want to see where this goes.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I'm sorry, well, I just want to tell you one scripture.
It's I think it's in James. It's like, can fresh
water and salt water both flow out of the same spring?
How can you love God and curse anybody with the
same mouth.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I saw that as cursing a man, though even my
own enemies they don't even know, but I plant them
flowers in their fields rights justifying here.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
So I was reading, so you know the moment where
Peter denies Jesus three times? Right, yeah, and I can
I can pull it up because I'm paraphrasing, but it
says something so three times people come up to him,
do you know Jesus, you were just with him? I
saw you with him. You're you're a Jew, like you
have to be with him? And he says three times, no,
I don't know him, No, I don't know him. The
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third time he it says that he curses and says,
I do not know this man. So in the moment
where he was trying to separate himself from Jesus and
no longer identify as a follower of Jesus. He cursed,
he used some sort of foul language, and that's what
really got me, and saying, when I do use foul language,
as annoying as it is, when I do, I'm separating
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myself from the character of Jesus.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, that's how I I want to catch his face again,
and I don't want.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I didn't want this to happen to me. Or okay,
you know what, I'm singing along to songs and I
am a loser. I'm skipping over the other.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I will do that version now. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
But I was feeling this separation from God when I
was living in sin, when I was, you know, sexually
active before marriage.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
When I I want to notice too that what they're
talking about is not just speaking curse words. They're also
talking about listening to it or hearing it or watching
it in a movie, listening to it in a song.
But I'm very interested, probably more than the conversation it
sol if. I'm more interested in George and how he
is reacting to it. And I think we should all
watch and see what is working inside of George right now,
(12:10):
that's the guy with the beanie cap. What is happening
to him? It's interesting. Let's keep watching, and I'm gonna
try to get past these girls talking here. Let's go
back to here.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Is did you guys talk about my swearing behind closed doors?
Is that something that you guys wanted to fix on me?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Not fix on you?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
But I did notice that. I didn't notice that. Is
it something that challenged you guys when you guys heard
my stuff?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
We didn't talk about it as if we were going
to bring it up at all, but we were watching
like some clips together and we I noticed that, like
you cuss on the podcast, and you know what's funny
is our first episode. I'm pretty sure we set a
couple of customers. We did. Actually, I know on the
second one, I spelt out a cuss word as it
because I just didn't We weren't living, you know what
I mean. We didn't know and honestly, we didn't really
care yet.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
And no we didn't say, oh, let's bring this up.
But I did notice that, and because I was like that,
that's what we did. So I was just you know,
I make a vow that today's the last day I swear. Yeah,
I challenge I'm probably gonna mess up a lot.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Okay, I'm gonna go get a band and write it
on my hand every day until I fly master it.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Wow. Okay. So that that's what I thought. This was
that this is where I thought this was leading, and
I was hoping he was gonna do that. So what
we've witnessed here and I'm gonna try to find a
spot I could pause on his face because I like
his face. There we go. So what we're seeing, And
to be honest, I haven't followed this guy, George Jenko.
I think it's his name. This is the first video
(13:40):
I've seen from him. But but I'll tell you why.
I know he's a brother and it's a beautiful thing
because what's happening to him is repentance. And a lot
of times we Christians talk about repentance. In the Bible
commands repentance. It's necessary, it could repentance is necessary as
a human response to the saving grace of God. And
(14:03):
so what's happened with George is he's defending it and
and he he's saying he's giving reasons while he why
he thinks that cussing or using a foul mouth is
beneficial in his quote unquote ministry because it's helping to
relate and God, God's looking at the heart, not at
(14:26):
the words. And but as these girls unpack a pretty
good defense for keeping a clean mouth, we'll call it
that term, he starts to break down, and it's actually
visible on this video, and it's it's really neat to
see because we're watching in real time on this video,
(14:46):
repentance as it's happening. And then the way I know
he's a brother, and the way you know Christ is
in this man and the Holy Spirit is working in
him as far as we can tell from one video.
But but but humans don't do this. This is not
normal for a human. And I believe this is his show.
I believe this is his podcast. So it would be
(15:07):
like someone coming on my podcast and challenging me was
something that I had just made my own defense for
so that I could keep up with what I'm defending
that I think is right, and someone that's a guest
challenging me, and humans don't do well in this kind
(15:28):
of situation, especially on our own platforms. In front of
our own people. We don't do well, we are pride
kicks in and all the defenses go up and we go, man,
this is something we're all. You got, your thing I got.
Don't be holier than me, don't come judging me on
my show. You know this is And even if you
(15:48):
don't say it out loud, that's what you're thinking. And
you could see that through body language. That's not what's
happening to this guy, George. His body language goes into submission.
He starts look at his face right here on the screenshot.
His eyes are turned. He's thinking, he's in deep thought
and he's backpedaling and he's turning away. He's changing his mind. Literally,
(16:14):
you could see repentance in his face right here. He's
changing his mind about sin and turning instead to God.
And by the end of this video he says, I'm
making a vow right now. Then I'm gonna stop gussing.
Oh man, it gives me chills. It's a beautiful thing.
And then he goes on to say, correctly, I'm gonna
mess up, but I don't want to do this anymore.
(16:37):
It's basically what he's saying. And so it's the direction.
It's not the achievement, it's not the destination of where
we're going to defeat sin. Instead, it's a change of course.
It's a change of direction away from ourselves and our
pride and our sin and changing course. As if you're
in a boat and you're completely changing the boat and
(16:58):
you're turning all the way, you're turning the stern all
around and you're going the other way, and you're going Listen,
I know I'm going to have a tendency to turn
back to the old way again, but I don't want
to go that way anymore. I want to go this way.
I want to go God's way. And as he was
rebuked by these other Christians, that's the decision he makes,
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and that is repentance and it is beautiful. And so
even though we're not even talking about cussing at this point,
I think that that that's a beautiful illustration of repentance.
And I also think the idea the conclusion about cussing
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this next video that ant Man found, this is going
to that that first one was just kind of a
general idea about cussing itself. Now this one is going
to dive deeper into what is cussing. In fact that
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the title of this that Antman put is the hypocrisy
of cussing. What does that even mean? We're talking about
how this flow, this all flows from the heart. And
then I'm going to give you I have a few
notes here on my phone. I'm going to read you
my thoughts that I wrote down. Well, I just wrote
down some verses, so we'll discuss after we check out
this video.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
And I do think you can cuss somebody out without
using cuss words. I do think you can curse somebody
without using cuss words.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
Like I had this conversation with my mom a little
while ago and I was like, Yo, if which one
of these things?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
And as a matter of fact, this is a question,
this is a question. What do you think about this?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (20:53):
You have two different sentences. You have someone that goes
if I were to if I were to look at
my brother and say you're an idiot and you're never
going to.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Be anything in life, that's awful.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
That versus if I looked at my brother and said
I love you so, and there's a two part there's
a two part questions. Okay, so which one of those?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Do you think?
Speaker 1 (21:11):
The video skipped just a little bit, But he said,
what's the difference? What is better telling your brother you're
an idiot and I don't like you basically, or I
love you so effing much, but actually using the word
that's his point here.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
God would be like, yeah, absolutely not.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
I don't think God would co sign either statement.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Right right, watch if do you think your answer would
be the same if I said it was you're an
idiot and you're never going to be anything in life,
or I love you so freaking much, dude? I think
that The conversation then becomes, so does God have an
issue with the heart or spelling?
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Okay, so now he's making the argument for instead of
the actual F word, what about freaking? Like could you
say I love you so freaking much and that way
you're you're avoiding the actual F word and you've replaced
it with something else. Is that? Okay?
Speaker 6 (21:58):
That's that's his question, because freaking means the same thing
as the other word does, but it doesn't have the
same impact. It doesn't have the same impact.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
And sometimes sometimes and this is hard. This is hard
because it's not fair. Sometimes you are judged by your
impact and not your intent.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
Yeah, the reason I'm the only reason I'm pushing back
is because the Church, like Christians, we have these filler
words that don't actually have any meaning except for to
be the filler word for a cuss word. So that
means maybe we should stop saying those words too, though
that is my exact point. So my point is that, Yo,
(22:39):
if we're either about to wipe the whole board, let's
get rid of heck, dang, frick, let's get let's get
rid of crap, let's get let's do let's take it
all out or green light all of it.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
I still think some things are just gonna be felt different,
like something.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
And like I said, okay, So he's making the argument
that if we're going to have words that replace the
actual cuss words, is it okay to say them because
they have less of an impact. So that this is
the discussion, is is it the actual word? Kind of
like kind of like I said earlier, if if I
wrote out a four letter word and gave it to
a Russian guy and he spoke it, and he had
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no idea what it meant. That would what would that
mean for him? Would it would he be sinning in that?
Of course? Not like I said with Sermon on the Mountain,
Jesus is getting to the heart. Jesus did this through
his through his entire ministry. He wanted the heart. He
was dealing with the heart. And from the overflow of
the heart, the mouth speaks, Jesus says. And so as
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you speak, you're speaking the overflow of what's in your heart.
If you want to get to know someone, listen to
them speak. If you want to know the heart of
a man or a woman, stay around long enough and
listen to them speak, and you will hear the overflow
of their heart. That's what Jesus means by that. And
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I think that's the argument that these guys are making
in this video.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Say, this is just a lot of it just for
to go and think about and have you actually think
about the way that you consider people, because I know
people that would say things like, if you cuss, you're
not a Christian.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Period.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
That's a say statement, because that's the.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Part we need to discuss as well. For someone to
say if you cuss, you're not a Christian. Guess what
it's Without me even getting into that, the previous video
made a great point on that. The guy George Jenko,
I think, I don't know, but I think that he
is a brother, he is a Christian, and he was
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cussing at the beginning of the video and then by
the end of it he was not. So it would
not be a fair judgment at all to say because
of what you say, I could judge you today and
tell you whether you are or not a Christian. That's
a different discussion, but I think the argument could be
made already that that first video proved that wrong.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
You cuss by God's standards, You cuss all day long.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Yeah, it's a tricky one, man, because it's deemed what's
appropriate by a society. You know, what I'm saying is
deemed what's appropriate in different times in space. Different words
were more appropriate different times of space, and like, like
here's an example, did you know that, like spaz is
considered derogatory to specific people that have that's a rest.
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It's another one.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
But like in the UK, like you can't like spaz
is not.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Appropriate, and that's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
So it's like there's it's just yeah, just a lot.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
That's another thing that that I think plays into it
is like here certain words are cuss words, somewhere else
they're not.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
And so then Okay, I don't know where this this
video is necessarily going, and I don't know if I
actually need more AMMO to make this argument because now
they're getting into once again the heart of the matter.
Where is your heart in the situation. That's what Jesus
wants to know. So first we should address the idea
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of of people that the holier than now idea like, oh,
you're just being holier than what is that? What does
that phrase? Holier than hold it than thou? Holier than thou?
That's what people say, Oh you're holier than thou. That's
what the last video is said too. And so it's
it's it's just critical. It's critical for us to know
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that we are saved by grace through faith. This is
not our own doing. This is the gift of God,
not a result of works, so that no man may
boast Ephesians to eight to nine. And it's it's critical
to understand that there is nothing we do or don't
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do that saves us. So uh, Stopping cussing will not
make you a Christian. Stopping stop stealing that will not
make you a Christian. Stop committing adultery that will not
make you a Christian. We have to understand that this
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idea of being a good person makes you a Christian,
or that being a good person gets you an invitation
to heaven is absolute heresy, and it's completely wrong. It's
never been taught that way, although it is, it's you know,
continued to be some kind of heresy that makes its
way into teaching, if not just subliminably, sublimably through our
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minds and through our teaching, and through our understanding and
through our living. So if you were to ask the
average person on the street, how do you get into heaven?
A common answer is I don't know. You've got to
be a good person. Well, the Bible is very clear.
First of all, that no one is good, no not
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even one, Isaiah says, through the inspiration of God. And
then Paul will say that all have sinned and fall
short of the glory of God Romans three twenty three.
So no one is good, and all have sinned and
fall short of His glory, all have fallen short of
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our invitation to heaven, it's not happening. We've already messed
that up. So whether or not you cuss or not,
or you cuss a lot or a little, or a
medium of mount or none, none of that has anything
to do with your right standing with God. The only
way you have right standing with God is through Jesus,
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through his final work, has finished work on the cross
as a substitution for the crime punishment that you deserved
right and in exchange you are seen righteous, in exchange
for your faith in Him, your belief in Him and
your repentance. Like we saw from George in the last video,
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is that you turn away from yourself. You go to
God and you go God, I can't I can't do it.
I'm turning away from myself and I'm changing my course
to you, saying I trust you and what you have
done because I have fallen short, have mercy on me
a sinner. That's the only standing we have with him
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is what Jesus did for us, God the Sun incarnate
in flesh, coming into this world for humanity to suffer
in it, in the humanity that he created, which is
just wild, to come and suffer in it, so that
we could be reconciled back to God, who we broke
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our relationship with through our own sin. So all of
that is the truth, and this cussing thing is irrelevant
to that. So to be able to say, I know
he's a Christian or not because of what he says
is wrong, but it could be an indication of of
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a heart that is still corrupted, if that makes sense,
because out of the abundance of the heart and the
mouth speaks. So you can see indications of a healthy
tree by its fruit. And if a tree has bad fruit,
then you can go okay, this tree might need to
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be completely torn down, burned and replanted, right, which is
what God does with us through conversion. We become a
new creation, a new tree that now bears good fruit
instead of bad fruit. So you can make an argument
that you can get a lot of information from someone
and how they speak, but that's not what we're talking
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about either. We're talking about is it okay for Christians
to cuss? I think that's the topic at hand, And
I want to go for an answer for answers to this.
I want to go straight to the Bible itself, and
I pulled up I made some notes here and so
I just want to go through a couple of vers
and do just some light commentary on them. And some
of the stuff was already talked about in the in
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the previous video Ephesians four twenty nine. Do not let
any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only
what is helpful for building others up according to their needs,
that it may be beneficial, that it may benefit those
who listen. So that George was making the argument, well, yeah,
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this is building them up because I'm I'm relating to them. Okay,
well then let's go to Colossans three eight. But now
you must also rid yourself of all of these, of
all such things as these anger, rage, malice, slander, and
filthy language from your lips. So now George has already
(31:49):
lost his argument to Colossians three eight. James three ten.
I believe that was mentioned in this video out of
the or the play previous video out of the same mouth,
come and praise and cursing my brothers and sisters. This
should not be Proverbs eighteen twenty one. The tongue has
the power of death, the power of life and death,
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and those who love it will eat its fruit. Matthew twelve,
thirty six and thirty seven. But I tell you that
everyone will have to give an account on the day
of judgment for every empty word they have spoken. For
by your words, you will be acquitted, and by your
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words you will be condemned. Well, that is very interesting,
and we have to also remember that we're saved by
grace through faith, So you will be judged by everything
that you do, and the only way you'll be set
free is if your righteousness is found in Jesus through
your faith in Him, and not on your own. So
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you're in deep trouble if you're out on your own
trying to hope you're going to get into heaven, because
Jesus is saying you're already condemned. Five to four says
nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or course talking
which is out of place, but rather thanksgiving. So he's
encouraging Christians already converted already have they already have the
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ability to repent like George did. And what happens is
when you these verses are taking in somebody that's already
a Christian and it's encouraging them to walk in the light. Basically,
and you can't tell a non believer this because they
don't have that ability to walk. Instead, they need the
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Gospel so that they could that tree, that that that
they are could be torn down and thrown into the
fire and reborn into a new tree that now is
is capable of bearing good fruit through the work of Jesus,
through the ability that they now have empowered by Jesus.
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So those Christians that we're talking about, that's why that
is so important. So Christians now have the ability to
hear this, to hear Ephesians five to four, and go, ah, man,
my wheels are turned kind of like George said, Man,
I feel that I've been I've been messing. I've been
doing that course joking. I've been doing that fool whish
(34:17):
talk thing. I gotta change Proverbs fifteen to one. A
gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs
up anger. Colossians four to six. Let your conversation always
be full of grace, season with salt, so that you
may know how to answer everyone. One Peter three ten.
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For whoever would love life and see good days must
keep their tongue from evil and their lips from deceitful
speech Saw nineteen fourteen. May these words of my mouth
and this meditation of my heart be pleasing in your sight, Lord,
my Rock and my Redeemer. Yeah, that's really good stuff.
And once again these are when Christians hear these, it
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should It's I've said this before in a message. It's
like it's like a when you you become a butterfly.
If you're a caterpillar, right and you cut your you've
become a brand new butterfly. And other butterflies more wise,
mature butterflies come up to you and you go, they
say to the to the young butterfly, the old ones say, hey, man,
you know you don't have to be walking around with
(35:22):
these caterpillars eating these leaves anymore. There's something way better.
It's called nectar, and it's over there on the other
side of the garden. And then the butter the new
butterflies like, well, how am I supposed to get to
the other side, And the older butterfly says, you see
those things you got on your on your sides, Now
those legs, those are wings. You can fly, you know.
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So sometimes it takes for a new Christian or or
a Christian that just hasn't been well discipled to hear
these these words from a more wise Christian and words
from the Bible like this that rebuke them. They go, oh,
I can fly. It's a beautiful thing. So here's another
thing we've been talking about. Should you say darn or
(36:03):
heck or dang it? Here's another one. Listen to this,
Dad gummet, and you've probably heard me say, Dad gummy,
that's what my dad said all the time, Dad Gummet.
What does that mean? Where did that come from? Well?
I was thinking about this today before the podcast. Take
the D and the G and swap them, and now'll
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say it and see what that comes out to be.
You could see what that replaced, Dad Gummet, Switch the
D and the G and see what it replaced. So
it's the same heart position. You're saying the same thing.
Jesus says this in Matthew five thirty seven. Simply let
your yes be yes and your no be no. Anything
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beyond this comes from the evil one. So like this
guy on this video was making this argument, if you're
going to tell your brother I love you so freaking much,
let your yes be yes and your no be no.
Let that be enough. You don't have to exaggerate anything, right,
So the heart position matters, and I think the darns
(37:09):
and the dang its and the dad gummants actually do matter.
And this is this is personal sanctification. For anyone listening
that says that and they're a Christian, don't think I'm
telling you you're condemned or you're not a Christian, or
you're in you're in sin. I'm saying that as a rebuke,
and it's something to think about. From the overflow of
the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. I think
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these are things that if you hear it a certain way,
and you hear me saying this, you might like me say, oh,
maybe I shouldn't say any of it for the tenth
time on this podcast. Not because you're earning righteousness or
because you're obtaining your own salvation from what you do
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or say that's already a gift from God as you
turn from your sin and put your faith in Jesus
in his work on the cross. I'll say that again,
but because of the abundance of the heart, when Jesus
is in your heart and you're filled with the Holy Spirit,
and you just want. You want so badly just to
just to show everyone your love for Jesus because of
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the way he loved you first, in the abundance of that,
in the overflow of that, kind of like you take
that mentos and you drop it in a coke and
the coat just over it flows. It's like that from
that overflow, you go, Lord, I want to do all
these things. I don't want to say anything that might
be hurtful or discouraging to someone. I only want to
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be someone that's uplifting to others. I only want to
be loving to others. And so I want to I
want to watch my tongue. I want to keep it
from becoming evil. I want to I want to make
sure that everything is clean coming out of my mouth.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Right.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
So that's that might be when you hear this video
where you end up and then I love I love
that the girl and that one video brought up this
Matthew twenty six seventy four talking about Peter as he's
denying Jesus, it says then and he began to call
down curses and swore to them. I don't know the man.
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Immediately the rooster crowed, I'm reading out of the n
I V for that because I think it's an interesting
it's an it's an interesting translation for that part. And
and and I think those girls had a good point
that in this instant, in this instance with Peter, as
he's separating himself from Jesus, that's when he curses. It
represents a separation. And so as you hear this, what
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I'm talking about this is this term is called sanctification.
That's a churchy word, but this is the process of
becoming more and more like Jesus as his spirit and
dwells us. It starts to convict us in certain things.
And people get convicted in different ways. For instance, I've
got I've gotten convicted with with college football as I'm
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watching it and my emotions rage and my spirit pours
out onto this game. And I've realized over the years, man,
i think this is idolatry for me. I think I'm
worshiping college football. I think that's becoming a sin for me,
and I should probably back down. That's the conviction the
Holy Spirit. No, I don't think a normal man would
(40:16):
say that, but because of the conviction within me, the
spirit goes, hey, watch yourself, watch yourself. And so when
I say dad gummet, and I've said that for so
I mean, my character Donnie says that it's like his thing, right,
So when I say that now and my spirit goes,
watch yourself. Not because I'm falling out of the faith,
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but hey, you're becoming more and more like Jesus. And
in that process you're going to be reminded and convicted
of certain things. And So to answer this question for
people that have emailed me a thousand times saying Granger,
where do you stand on this? Because you have songs
that have cussing in them. And my answer to all
of those people is that I am sorry, and you're right.
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And if I was going to make a song today,
I wouldn't dare do that. I wouldn't dare put those
words in those songs. And if you, I don't know
if y'll notice, but the people that have gone to
my concerts and they watched this whole thing happening to me,
the sanctification was happening in real time on the stage
in front of everybody. You might have noticed that that
words like like city Boy stuck. I believe it is
(41:28):
one of the ones that there's a lot of those
songs where the word was hell, oh yeah. The word
in City Boy Stuck was hell no, not me, and
that started bothering me, and so it became heck no,
not me. That's the best I could do. Now, the
more I'm sanctified, I'm like, I don't even think heck.
(41:50):
Heck isn't even right, because that's just replacing the word,
and it's coming out of the same heart. So you
probably noticed that there were a lot of words that changed,
and there were songs that I ever sang, like damn Guitar.
Never sang that song. I was just too convicted. I
wrote the song a long time ago, and it was
in the movie moon Rise without the words. Though you
notice that as in the movie moon Rise without the words,
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and I never sang that song live, and I always
it always bothered me. The song damn straight always bothered me.
Not when I recorded it, obviously, but as I was
sanctified more and more, as I gotten deeper into the word,
and as the Holy Spirit was tugging at me in
a lot of different things, conforming me, molding me. It's
like I was when I was put into the fire,
(42:34):
really starting with losing riv and then what happened to
me later. As I was in the fire of this,
the metal that I was, as corrupted and corroded as
I was, was beginning to melt and melt and melt
until it was just molten liquid metal. That's how far
(42:54):
down I was melted. And when I reached that point
of complete melted metal, that's when the Lord was able
to start working. That's when the maker's hand takes that
molten metal and makes it new, makes it, turns it
into the refinement that it was always intended to be.
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And as that's happening, and as that refinement happens, it's
not always it's not always fun. Sometimes it hurts a
little bit. You're like, wait, why do I feel bad
about saying darn it? That's weird. You know, you start
thinking that you feel so out of place, and you're like,
hang on a second. Maybe maybe I have I've been
(43:40):
given the power through the Holy Spirit to change the
way I talk. Maybe this is not a big as
big a deal as I think I need to fit
into culture by saying cultural things. Maybe it's not a
big deal at all. And just like that guy George said,
I'm gonna mess up a lot, But it's not the destination,
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it's the shift. It's the change of direction towards a
new destination. That is the evidence of a believer of
a Christian. So do Christians cuss? That's irrelevant and the
answer is probably yes. But should Christians cuss? I believe
that answer is no. And although I wouldn't put judgment
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on current Christians and say you shouldn't cuss, and I
absolutely would not put that judgment on a non Christian,
and I would never say that word offends me. I'm
gonna listen to it and as someone's talking to me
and they go, so sorry for the language, I'm gonna say, no,
need to apologize. And in my mind, I'm thinking you
don't have Jesus, so let me tell you the gospel.
Don't apologize for your words. I understand. I'll give you
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grace for that. But for the Christian, if they ask me,
I'm gonna say, brother, I don't think it is right,
and I think you will be sanctified. And I think eventually,
just like we saw in that video with George, I
think true repentance is right around the corner.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
For you.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Love you guys, If you again, if you have a question,
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next week.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
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(45:38):
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Speaker 2 (45:40):
Gig
What's up, everybody, Welcome back to the podcast. On this podcast,
I answer your questions you email me podcast at grangersmith
dot com, and we walk through it like we're just
having a conversation, and the conversation could really be about anything, life, love,
the Bible. Ask me anything, and I'm going to answer
(00:31):
it like we're friends and we're trying to talk through something.
That's always what this podcast has been and what I'm
doing now for the second week in a row is
I'm taking a collection of the most popular questions that
gets asked on this podcast all of the time. Instead
of answering them individually over and over again, I'm gonna
(00:54):
for the second like last week was Eschatology, it was
like the End of Times. I get that. I get
asked that all the time, so I thought I would
just react to a few videos and give you my
thoughts on the end of Times. This week, I'm gonna
do something similar. I'm going to answer a question that
comes in all the time, and that is should Christians cuss?
(01:17):
I get that quite a bit, and I think probably
that there's a good reason I get that quite a bit,
and probably because if you go back over the last
decade or more two decades of my music, you hear
curse words in there, and it's like, hey, Granger, now
here you are all into the Bible, is it okay
(01:38):
for Christians to cuss or to listen to songs with
curse words in them? So, you know what, I think
that's a great question, And because I get it all
the time, I'm probably not going to answer every individual
one because they're all pretty much just like I just said.
So instead, let's use this episode and let's walk through
that question. And ant Man has now put together a
(02:00):
few videos. I think we have two videos here, so
I'll start with this. I'll watch these videos a little bit, pause, react,
and use that as kind of a platform to discuss
this topic with and then I'll give you my own
opinion after we walk through these videos. So this is
the first one. Let's hit play.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I actually I have a question for you, and I'm
just really curious your opinion on it. What do you
think about cussing? Yeah, but it'll take on it.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
So the reason why it doesn't affect my heart too
much is because I know my God doesn't judge like
swearing like that, and it minds you like yes, I do.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I have to change now. Okay, let me rephrase this.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I have to change now because God put me in
a place for me to be speaking, and I'm realizing
that I have to be better and more diligent with
my tongue because if I'm not that, I'm showing that
I'm not disciplined. Therefore, it gives room for the devil
to come and just move my tongue in his direction.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I'm gonna pause here and I'm just gonna say that
I will definitely address this idea of God judging or
other people judging. Well, we'll deal with that. But I'm
gonna I'm gonna wait a little bit longer. I'll keep
seeing what He's got to say here.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
So, yes, I have to be obedient on the tongue.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Now when I swear, if I say, I'll just say
if I say both like to me, I don't see
my God looking at me in the same way that
other people think my God is looking at me. Because
in the scripture says do not curse your neighbor. Now,
cursing isn't like like F this, f that, because an
effort here can mean something in a different language. Right,
(03:39):
it's your intent on how you're using it. I think
there's a difference even with my own child. If I'm
looking at my child and he stubs his toe as
like a four year old, oh like that to me,
I'm laughing like, oh, like, you shouldn't say that, versus
my son out in the street being like I'm gonna
few up and I'm gonna blah blah blah somebody.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I'm like, whoa, that's gonna come with some repercussions. My man, Like,
you can't talk like that.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
So I think, let me stop it right here. So
what we're going to deal with eventually on this on
this episode as well, is that there's like sliver, there's
a sliver of agreement I have with him here, and
that is that Jesus is looking on the heart. In fact,
that's when he comes in and we see this profound
(04:22):
sermon on the Mount that we read in Matthew, and
when he starts, he starts talking to the Pharisees and
the religious people, and what he's doing is he's saying,
you think you're following the law, and you think you're
doing good by following the law. For instance, you think
you're doing good by not murdering somebody. But did you
(04:43):
know that you hate your brother and your heart and
you're murdering them. You think you're doing good bye, not
committing adultery. But did you know that you just look
at a woman with lust and you've committed adultery in
the heart. So Jesus is always after the heart, and
he's always saying, look, it's not what you do, it's
your heart posture towards it. So the reason Jesus was
(05:03):
doing this is to point out that we are a
lot more sinful, that we are a lot worse off
than we think we are on the outside just because
we act a certain way. Look how good I am looking.
I'm doing all the right things, I'm checking all the boxes.
And Jesus goes, uh, it's a lot worse than you think.
I'm looking at the heart. So in relation to this,
(05:27):
there's there's a sliver of truth in here that if I,
for instance, if I go up to a guy in Russia, right,
and I write out a four letter bad word in
English and I say, read this, and he's like he
doesn't know what it means, and he reads it. Oh,
it's not like, oh that's that's horrible. You just said
(05:47):
that word. Obviously he has no idea what the means.
So his heart posture is completely clean in that instance.
But but what this guy's saying, what George is saying,
is a little different than at he's actually saying the
words and saying there's a different context of saying the words.
Let's keep going here.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Saying is like, where's your intent with it? Like if like,
for example, if I'm talking to.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Some new Christians and they don't really get God, and
I'm talking to them about being perfect, and now I'm
watching them tune out. But then I go, but listen,
it's locking hard. And then they go, wait, what You're
like me, Oh, so you're not holier than that. You're
not perfect obviously now because you're swearing. Sometimes I use
(06:35):
it as a relatability, like I speak in their language.
It's hard to talk to somebody if you can't understand them,
and so I wasn't really too quick to fix my tongue.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I don't think that that's necessary. And if he's truly
saying like I'm doing whatever it takes to be relatable,
I don't think that's what he means. I think he's
just trying to be cool and fit in. And he
might have a good intention of why he wants to
fit in. But I think the better argument is if
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you are. If you are so you're so zealous for
your God, and you're so obedient and yet joyful and
yet happy and yet understanding, and I think that's a
better way to be relatable. Then Man, I'm just like
a God, just like one of you guys, and I
also got this god thing going on. I don't think
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that's as inspiring as he thinks it might be.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Let's continue here, because I tell people all the time
they look at me as a preacher.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I ain't no preacher, did I'm a man who fears
God and loves to talk.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yes, you are. If you're speaking on a platform, you're
a preacher.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
If you have a massive platform, yeah, if it takes
you in the direction of that, then that's great.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
But to me, it's like my heart was like, I
like talking to people that don't know who God is
at all and like bringing them. I'm trying to be
a fisher of men, right, And I might talk like
a sailorman.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
And that's don't do that. I wouldn't go there. That's
like a silly cultural analogy. Fishermen and sailors. You know,
they're both on water, and they should both be able
to cuss, right, Like I wouldn't go there swear.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Like if you listen to any sailor, they're like, oh,
he cusses like a sailor. Like this, This is the
men that Jesus chose. Like you think Peter was walking
around with no filthy mouth like he was.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
It took him a bit. We don't know that to
like rein it in and be disciplined. I'm thirty one
years old and I just started. I guarantee you, when
I'm like forty, I'm probably not gonna be talking the
same way that I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, that's an interesting argument. He realizes it's probably not helpful,
it's probably not encouraging, it's probably not uplifting. But I
still got to get it out of my system for
the next ten years or so, and then it'll probably
be totally out of my system. He knows the argument
that he's making, so he's already kind of feeling a change.
He's already kind of feeling a tug, and no one's
(08:53):
even talked to him about it. He's convincing himself already.
This is interesting. Let's keep going.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
But it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
It doesn't make me toss and turn out night. There's
a lot of things that make me toss and turn
at night. That's just, honestly, just not one of them
from your now.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
We used to make fun of the Christians.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
We did, we made fun of We didn't come to
a whole.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Year than now Christian This we truly can't even say it.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
It's been probably I don't know how long that I
can't get an effort out of my mouth. It physically
can't come out of my mouth.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
And you know what, like she said something that made
it's gonna my wheels are going like crazy, let's go.
When you said it made me cringe, I never really
pictured making anybody cringe from my mouth. And if I'm
talking about God and I make them cringe, that's a problem.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I think of the scripture. Sorry, I just I think
of the scripture that's set.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
So look at his face. Look at his face right
here where I paused it. I love how he said
the wheels are turning. And this is very interesting to
watch as he is I kind of recognized that as
he's kind of explaining his best way to justify while
he why he does speak like a sailor, like you said,
(10:08):
and then as that his own personal justification starts to
kind of crumble a little bit. Look at his face,
and I want to see where this goes.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I'm sorry, well, I just want to tell you one scripture.
It's I think it's in James. It's like, can fresh
water and salt water both flow out of the same spring?
How can you love God and curse anybody with the
same mouth.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I saw that as cursing a man, though even my
own enemies they don't even know, but I plant them
flowers in their fields rights justifying here.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
So I was reading, so you know the moment where
Peter denies Jesus three times? Right, yeah, and I can
I can pull it up because I'm paraphrasing, but it
says something so three times people come up to him,
do you know Jesus, you were just with him? I
saw you with him. You're you're a Jew, like you
have to be with him? And he says three times, no,
I don't know him, No, I don't know him. The
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third time he it says that he curses and says,
I do not know this man. So in the moment
where he was trying to separate himself from Jesus and
no longer identify as a follower of Jesus. He cursed,
he used some sort of foul language, and that's what
really got me, and saying, when I do use foul language,
as annoying as it is, when I do, I'm separating
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myself from the character of Jesus.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, that's how I I want to catch his face again,
and I don't want.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I didn't want this to happen to me. Or okay,
you know what, I'm singing along to songs and I
am a loser. I'm skipping over the other.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I will do that version now. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
But I was feeling this separation from God when I
was living in sin, when I was, you know, sexually
active before marriage.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
When I I want to notice too that what they're
talking about is not just speaking curse words. They're also
talking about listening to it or hearing it or watching
it in a movie, listening to it in a song.
But I'm very interested, probably more than the conversation it
sol if. I'm more interested in George and how he
is reacting to it. And I think we should all
watch and see what is working inside of George right now,
(12:10):
that's the guy with the beanie cap. What is happening
to him? It's interesting. Let's keep watching, and I'm gonna
try to get past these girls talking here. Let's go
back to here.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Is did you guys talk about my swearing behind closed doors?
Is that something that you guys wanted to fix on me?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Not fix on you?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
But I did notice that. I didn't notice that. Is
it something that challenged you guys when you guys heard
my stuff?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
We didn't talk about it as if we were going
to bring it up at all, but we were watching
like some clips together and we I noticed that, like
you cuss on the podcast, and you know what's funny
is our first episode. I'm pretty sure we set a
couple of customers. We did. Actually, I know on the
second one, I spelt out a cuss word as it
because I just didn't We weren't living, you know what
I mean. We didn't know and honestly, we didn't really
care yet.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
And no we didn't say, oh, let's bring this up.
But I did notice that, and because I was like that,
that's what we did. So I was just you know,
I make a vow that today's the last day I swear. Yeah,
I challenge I'm probably gonna mess up a lot.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Okay, I'm gonna go get a band and write it
on my hand every day until I fly master it.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Wow. Okay. So that that's what I thought. This was
that this is where I thought this was leading, and
I was hoping he was gonna do that. So what
we've witnessed here and I'm gonna try to find a
spot I could pause on his face because I like
his face. There we go. So what we're seeing, And
to be honest, I haven't followed this guy, George Jenko.
I think it's his name. This is the first video
(13:40):
I've seen from him. But but I'll tell you why.
I know he's a brother and it's a beautiful thing
because what's happening to him is repentance. And a lot
of times we Christians talk about repentance. In the Bible
commands repentance. It's necessary, it could repentance is necessary as
a human response to the saving grace of God. And
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so what's happened with George is he's defending it and
and he he's saying he's giving reasons while he why
he thinks that cussing or using a foul mouth is
beneficial in his quote unquote ministry because it's helping to
relate and God, God's looking at the heart, not at
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the words. And but as these girls unpack a pretty
good defense for keeping a clean mouth, we'll call it
that term, he starts to break down, and it's actually
visible on this video, and it's it's really neat to
see because we're watching in real time on this video,
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repentance as it's happening. And then the way I know
he's a brother, and the way you know Christ is
in this man and the Holy Spirit is working in
him as far as we can tell from one video.
But but but humans don't do this. This is not
normal for a human. And I believe this is his show.
I believe this is his podcast. So it would be
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like someone coming on my podcast and challenging me was
something that I had just made my own defense for
so that I could keep up with what I'm defending
that I think is right, and someone that's a guest
challenging me, and humans don't do well in this kind
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of situation, especially on our own platforms. In front of
our own people. We don't do well, we are pride
kicks in and all the defenses go up and we go, man,
this is something we're all. You got, your thing I got.
Don't be holier than me, don't come judging me on
my show. You know this is And even if you
(15:48):
don't say it out loud, that's what you're thinking. And
you could see that through body language. That's not what's
happening to this guy, George. His body language goes into submission.
He starts look at his face right here on the screenshot.
His eyes are turned. He's thinking, he's in deep thought
and he's backpedaling and he's turning away. He's changing his mind. Literally,
(16:14):
you could see repentance in his face right here. He's
changing his mind about sin and turning instead to God.
And by the end of this video he says, I'm
making a vow right now. Then I'm gonna stop gussing.
Oh man, it gives me chills. It's a beautiful thing.
And then he goes on to say, correctly, I'm gonna
mess up, but I don't want to do this anymore.
(16:37):
It's basically what he's saying. And so it's the direction.
It's not the achievement, it's not the destination of where
we're going to defeat sin. Instead, it's a change of course.
It's a change of direction away from ourselves and our
pride and our sin and changing course. As if you're
in a boat and you're completely changing the boat and
(16:58):
you're turning all the way, you're turning the stern all
around and you're going the other way, and you're going Listen,
I know I'm going to have a tendency to turn
back to the old way again, but I don't want
to go that way anymore. I want to go this way.
I want to go God's way. And as he was
rebuked by these other Christians, that's the decision he makes,
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and that is repentance and it is beautiful. And so
even though we're not even talking about cussing at this point,
I think that that that's a beautiful illustration of repentance.
And I also think the idea the conclusion about cussing
is correct. Let's jump into another video and then i'll
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this next video that ant Man found, this is going
to that that first one was just kind of a
general idea about cussing itself. Now this one is going
to dive deeper into what is cussing. In fact that
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the title of this that Antman put is the hypocrisy
of cussing. What does that even mean? We're talking about
how this flow, this all flows from the heart. And
then I'm going to give you I have a few
notes here on my phone. I'm going to read you
my thoughts that I wrote down. Well, I just wrote
down some verses, so we'll discuss after we check out
this video.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
And I do think you can cuss somebody out without
using cuss words. I do think you can curse somebody
without using cuss words.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
Like I had this conversation with my mom a little
while ago and I was like, Yo, if which one
of these things?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
And as a matter of fact, this is a question,
this is a question. What do you think about this?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (20:53):
You have two different sentences. You have someone that goes
if I were to if I were to look at
my brother and say you're an idiot and you're never
going to.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Be anything in life, that's awful.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
That versus if I looked at my brother and said
I love you so, and there's a two part there's
a two part questions. Okay, so which one of those?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Do you think?
Speaker 1 (21:11):
The video skipped just a little bit, But he said,
what's the difference? What is better telling your brother you're
an idiot and I don't like you basically, or I
love you so effing much, but actually using the word
that's his point here.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
God would be like, yeah, absolutely not.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
I don't think God would co sign either statement.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Right right, watch if do you think your answer would
be the same if I said it was you're an
idiot and you're never going to be anything in life,
or I love you so freaking much, dude? I think
that The conversation then becomes, so does God have an
issue with the heart or spelling?
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Okay, so now he's making the argument for instead of
the actual F word, what about freaking? Like could you
say I love you so freaking much and that way
you're you're avoiding the actual F word and you've replaced
it with something else. Is that? Okay?
Speaker 6 (21:58):
That's that's his question, because freaking means the same thing
as the other word does, but it doesn't have the
same impact. It doesn't have the same impact.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
And sometimes sometimes and this is hard. This is hard
because it's not fair. Sometimes you are judged by your
impact and not your intent.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
Yeah, the reason I'm the only reason I'm pushing back
is because the Church, like Christians, we have these filler
words that don't actually have any meaning except for to
be the filler word for a cuss word. So that
means maybe we should stop saying those words too, though
that is my exact point. So my point is that, Yo,
(22:39):
if we're either about to wipe the whole board, let's
get rid of heck, dang, frick, let's get let's get
rid of crap, let's get let's do let's take it
all out or green light all of it.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
I still think some things are just gonna be felt different,
like something.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
And like I said, okay, So he's making the argument
that if we're going to have words that replace the
actual cuss words, is it okay to say them because
they have less of an impact. So that this is
the discussion, is is it the actual word? Kind of
like kind of like I said earlier, if if I
wrote out a four letter word and gave it to
a Russian guy and he spoke it, and he had
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no idea what it meant. That would what would that
mean for him? Would it would he be sinning in that?
Of course? Not like I said with Sermon on the Mountain,
Jesus is getting to the heart. Jesus did this through
his through his entire ministry. He wanted the heart. He
was dealing with the heart. And from the overflow of
the heart, the mouth speaks, Jesus says. And so as
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you speak, you're speaking the overflow of what's in your heart.
If you want to get to know someone, listen to
them speak. If you want to know the heart of
a man or a woman, stay around long enough and
listen to them speak, and you will hear the overflow
of their heart. That's what Jesus means by that. And
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I think that's the argument that these guys are making
in this video.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Say, this is just a lot of it just for
to go and think about and have you actually think
about the way that you consider people, because I know
people that would say things like, if you cuss, you're
not a Christian.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Period.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
That's a say statement, because that's the.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Part we need to discuss as well. For someone to
say if you cuss, you're not a Christian. Guess what
it's Without me even getting into that, the previous video
made a great point on that. The guy George Jenko,
I think, I don't know, but I think that he
is a brother, he is a Christian, and he was
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cussing at the beginning of the video and then by
the end of it he was not. So it would
not be a fair judgment at all to say because
of what you say, I could judge you today and
tell you whether you are or not a Christian. That's
a different discussion, but I think the argument could be
made already that that first video proved that wrong.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
You cuss by God's standards, You cuss all day long.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Yeah, it's a tricky one, man, because it's deemed what's
appropriate by a society. You know, what I'm saying is
deemed what's appropriate in different times in space. Different words
were more appropriate different times of space, and like, like
here's an example, did you know that, like spaz is
considered derogatory to specific people that have that's a rest.
(25:25):
It's another one.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
But like in the UK, like you can't like spaz
is not.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Appropriate, and that's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
So it's like there's it's just yeah, just a lot.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
That's another thing that that I think plays into it
is like here certain words are cuss words, somewhere else
they're not.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
And so then Okay, I don't know where this this
video is necessarily going, and I don't know if I
actually need more AMMO to make this argument because now
they're getting into once again the heart of the matter.
Where is your heart in the situation. That's what Jesus
wants to know. So first we should address the idea
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of of people that the holier than now idea like, oh,
you're just being holier than what is that? What does
that phrase? Holier than hold it than thou? Holier than thou?
That's what people say, Oh you're holier than thou. That's
what the last video is said too. And so it's
it's it's just critical. It's critical for us to know
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that we are saved by grace through faith. This is
not our own doing. This is the gift of God,
not a result of works, so that no man may
boast Ephesians to eight to nine. And it's it's critical
to understand that there is nothing we do or don't
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do that saves us. So uh, Stopping cussing will not
make you a Christian. Stopping stop stealing that will not
make you a Christian. Stop committing adultery that will not
make you a Christian. We have to understand that this
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idea of being a good person makes you a Christian,
or that being a good person gets you an invitation
to heaven is absolute heresy, and it's completely wrong. It's
never been taught that way, although it is, it's you know,
continued to be some kind of heresy that makes its
way into teaching, if not just subliminably, sublimably through our
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minds and through our teaching, and through our understanding and
through our living. So if you were to ask the
average person on the street, how do you get into heaven?
A common answer is I don't know. You've got to
be a good person. Well, the Bible is very clear.
First of all, that no one is good, no not
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even one, Isaiah says, through the inspiration of God. And
then Paul will say that all have sinned and fall
short of the glory of God Romans three twenty three.
So no one is good, and all have sinned and
fall short of His glory, all have fallen short of
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our invitation to heaven, it's not happening. We've already messed
that up. So whether or not you cuss or not,
or you cuss a lot or a little, or a
medium of mount or none, none of that has anything
to do with your right standing with God. The only
way you have right standing with God is through Jesus,
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through his final work, has finished work on the cross
as a substitution for the crime punishment that you deserved
right and in exchange you are seen righteous, in exchange
for your faith in Him, your belief in Him and
your repentance. Like we saw from George in the last video,
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is that you turn away from yourself. You go to
God and you go God, I can't I can't do it.
I'm turning away from myself and I'm changing my course
to you, saying I trust you and what you have
done because I have fallen short, have mercy on me
a sinner. That's the only standing we have with him
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is what Jesus did for us, God the Sun incarnate
in flesh, coming into this world for humanity to suffer
in it, in the humanity that he created, which is
just wild, to come and suffer in it, so that
we could be reconciled back to God, who we broke
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our relationship with through our own sin. So all of
that is the truth, and this cussing thing is irrelevant
to that. So to be able to say, I know
he's a Christian or not because of what he says
is wrong, but it could be an indication of of
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a heart that is still corrupted, if that makes sense,
because out of the abundance of the heart and the
mouth speaks. So you can see indications of a healthy
tree by its fruit. And if a tree has bad fruit,
then you can go okay, this tree might need to
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be completely torn down, burned and replanted, right, which is
what God does with us through conversion. We become a
new creation, a new tree that now bears good fruit
instead of bad fruit. So you can make an argument
that you can get a lot of information from someone
and how they speak, but that's not what we're talking
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about either. We're talking about is it okay for Christians
to cuss? I think that's the topic at hand, And
I want to go for an answer for answers to this.
I want to go straight to the Bible itself, and
I pulled up I made some notes here and so
I just want to go through a couple of vers
and do just some light commentary on them. And some
of the stuff was already talked about in the in
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the previous video Ephesians four twenty nine. Do not let
any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only
what is helpful for building others up according to their needs,
that it may be beneficial, that it may benefit those
who listen. So that George was making the argument, well, yeah,
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this is building them up because I'm I'm relating to them. Okay,
well then let's go to Colossans three eight. But now
you must also rid yourself of all of these, of
all such things as these anger, rage, malice, slander, and
filthy language from your lips. So now George has already
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lost his argument to Colossians three eight. James three ten.
I believe that was mentioned in this video out of
the or the play previous video out of the same mouth,
come and praise and cursing my brothers and sisters. This
should not be Proverbs eighteen twenty one. The tongue has
the power of death, the power of life and death,
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and those who love it will eat its fruit. Matthew twelve,
thirty six and thirty seven. But I tell you that
everyone will have to give an account on the day
of judgment for every empty word they have spoken. For
by your words, you will be acquitted, and by your
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words you will be condemned. Well, that is very interesting,
and we have to also remember that we're saved by
grace through faith, So you will be judged by everything
that you do, and the only way you'll be set
free is if your righteousness is found in Jesus through
your faith in Him, and not on your own. So
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you're in deep trouble if you're out on your own
trying to hope you're going to get into heaven, because
Jesus is saying you're already condemned. Five to four says
nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or course talking
which is out of place, but rather thanksgiving. So he's
encouraging Christians already converted already have they already have the
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ability to repent like George did. And what happens is
when you these verses are taking in somebody that's already
a Christian and it's encouraging them to walk in the light. Basically,
and you can't tell a non believer this because they
don't have that ability to walk. Instead, they need the
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Gospel so that they could that tree, that that that
they are could be torn down and thrown into the
fire and reborn into a new tree that now is
is capable of bearing good fruit through the work of Jesus,
through the ability that they now have empowered by Jesus.
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So those Christians that we're talking about, that's why that
is so important. So Christians now have the ability to
hear this, to hear Ephesians five to four, and go, ah, man,
my wheels are turned kind of like George said, Man,
I feel that I've been I've been messing. I've been
doing that course joking. I've been doing that fool whish
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talk thing. I gotta change Proverbs fifteen to one. A
gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs
up anger. Colossians four to six. Let your conversation always
be full of grace, season with salt, so that you
may know how to answer everyone. One Peter three ten.
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For whoever would love life and see good days must
keep their tongue from evil and their lips from deceitful
speech Saw nineteen fourteen. May these words of my mouth
and this meditation of my heart be pleasing in your sight, Lord,
my Rock and my Redeemer. Yeah, that's really good stuff.
And once again these are when Christians hear these, it
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should It's I've said this before in a message. It's
like it's like a when you you become a butterfly.
If you're a caterpillar, right and you cut your you've
become a brand new butterfly. And other butterflies more wise,
mature butterflies come up to you and you go, they
say to the to the young butterfly, the old ones say, hey, man,
you know you don't have to be walking around with
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these caterpillars eating these leaves anymore. There's something way better.
It's called nectar, and it's over there on the other
side of the garden. And then the butter the new
butterflies like, well, how am I supposed to get to
the other side, And the older butterfly says, you see
those things you got on your on your sides, Now
those legs, those are wings. You can fly, you know.
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So sometimes it takes for a new Christian or or
a Christian that just hasn't been well discipled to hear
these these words from a more wise Christian and words
from the Bible like this that rebuke them. They go, oh,
I can fly. It's a beautiful thing. So here's another
thing we've been talking about. Should you say darn or
(36:03):
heck or dang it? Here's another one. Listen to this,
Dad gummet, and you've probably heard me say, Dad gummy,
that's what my dad said all the time, Dad Gummet.
What does that mean? Where did that come from? Well?
I was thinking about this today before the podcast. Take
the D and the G and swap them, and now'll
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say it and see what that comes out to be.
You could see what that replaced, Dad Gummet, Switch the
D and the G and see what it replaced. So
it's the same heart position. You're saying the same thing.
Jesus says this in Matthew five thirty seven. Simply let
your yes be yes and your no be no. Anything
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beyond this comes from the evil one. So like this
guy on this video was making this argument, if you're
going to tell your brother I love you so freaking much,
let your yes be yes and your no be no.
Let that be enough. You don't have to exaggerate anything, right,
So the heart position matters, and I think the darns
(37:09):
and the dang its and the dad gummants actually do matter.
And this is this is personal sanctification. For anyone listening
that says that and they're a Christian, don't think I'm
telling you you're condemned or you're not a Christian, or
you're in you're in sin. I'm saying that as a rebuke,
and it's something to think about. From the overflow of
the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. I think
(37:29):
these are things that if you hear it a certain way,
and you hear me saying this, you might like me say, oh,
maybe I shouldn't say any of it for the tenth
time on this podcast. Not because you're earning righteousness or
because you're obtaining your own salvation from what you do
(37:49):
or say that's already a gift from God as you
turn from your sin and put your faith in Jesus
in his work on the cross. I'll say that again,
but because of the abundance of the heart, when Jesus
is in your heart and you're filled with the Holy Spirit,
and you just want. You want so badly just to
just to show everyone your love for Jesus because of
(38:11):
the way he loved you first, in the abundance of that,
in the overflow of that, kind of like you take
that mentos and you drop it in a coke and
the coat just over it flows. It's like that from
that overflow, you go, Lord, I want to do all
these things. I don't want to say anything that might
be hurtful or discouraging to someone. I only want to
(38:32):
be someone that's uplifting to others. I only want to
be loving to others. And so I want to I
want to watch my tongue. I want to keep it
from becoming evil. I want to I want to make
sure that everything is clean coming out of my mouth.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Right.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
So that's that might be when you hear this video
where you end up and then I love I love
that the girl and that one video brought up this
Matthew twenty six seventy four talking about Peter as he's
denying Jesus, it says then and he began to call
down curses and swore to them. I don't know the man.
(39:06):
Immediately the rooster crowed, I'm reading out of the n
I V for that because I think it's an interesting
it's an it's an interesting translation for that part. And
and and I think those girls had a good point
that in this instant, in this instance with Peter, as
he's separating himself from Jesus, that's when he curses. It
represents a separation. And so as you hear this, what
(39:32):
I'm talking about this is this term is called sanctification.
That's a churchy word, but this is the process of
becoming more and more like Jesus as his spirit and
dwells us. It starts to convict us in certain things.
And people get convicted in different ways. For instance, I've
got I've gotten convicted with with college football as I'm
(39:54):
watching it and my emotions rage and my spirit pours
out onto this game. And I've realized over the years, man,
i think this is idolatry for me. I think I'm
worshiping college football. I think that's becoming a sin for me,
and I should probably back down. That's the conviction the
Holy Spirit. No, I don't think a normal man would
(40:16):
say that, but because of the conviction within me, the
spirit goes, hey, watch yourself, watch yourself. And so when
I say dad gummet, and I've said that for so
I mean, my character Donnie says that it's like his thing, right,
So when I say that now and my spirit goes,
watch yourself. Not because I'm falling out of the faith,
(40:39):
but hey, you're becoming more and more like Jesus. And
in that process you're going to be reminded and convicted
of certain things. And So to answer this question for
people that have emailed me a thousand times saying Granger,
where do you stand on this? Because you have songs
that have cussing in them. And my answer to all
of those people is that I am sorry, and you're right.
(41:02):
And if I was going to make a song today,
I wouldn't dare do that. I wouldn't dare put those
words in those songs. And if you, I don't know
if y'll notice, but the people that have gone to
my concerts and they watched this whole thing happening to me,
the sanctification was happening in real time on the stage
in front of everybody. You might have noticed that that
words like like city Boy stuck. I believe it is
(41:28):
one of the ones that there's a lot of those
songs where the word was hell, oh yeah. The word
in City Boy Stuck was hell no, not me, and
that started bothering me, and so it became heck no,
not me. That's the best I could do. Now, the
more I'm sanctified, I'm like, I don't even think heck.
(41:50):
Heck isn't even right, because that's just replacing the word,
and it's coming out of the same heart. So you
probably noticed that there were a lot of words that changed,
and there were songs that I ever sang, like damn Guitar.
Never sang that song. I was just too convicted. I
wrote the song a long time ago, and it was
in the movie moon Rise without the words. Though you
notice that as in the movie moon Rise without the words,
(42:11):
and I never sang that song live, and I always
it always bothered me. The song damn straight always bothered me.
Not when I recorded it, obviously, but as I was
sanctified more and more, as I gotten deeper into the word,
and as the Holy Spirit was tugging at me in
a lot of different things, conforming me, molding me. It's
like I was when I was put into the fire,
(42:34):
really starting with losing riv and then what happened to
me later. As I was in the fire of this,
the metal that I was, as corrupted and corroded as
I was, was beginning to melt and melt and melt
until it was just molten liquid metal. That's how far
(42:54):
down I was melted. And when I reached that point
of complete melted metal, that's when the Lord was able
to start working. That's when the maker's hand takes that
molten metal and makes it new, makes it, turns it
into the refinement that it was always intended to be.
(43:19):
And as that's happening, and as that refinement happens, it's
not always it's not always fun. Sometimes it hurts a
little bit. You're like, wait, why do I feel bad
about saying darn it? That's weird. You know, you start
thinking that you feel so out of place, and you're like,
hang on a second. Maybe maybe I have I've been
(43:40):
given the power through the Holy Spirit to change the
way I talk. Maybe this is not a big as
big a deal as I think I need to fit
into culture by saying cultural things. Maybe it's not a
big deal at all. And just like that guy George said,
I'm gonna mess up a lot, But it's not the destination,
(44:06):
it's the shift. It's the change of direction towards a
new destination. That is the evidence of a believer of
a Christian. So do Christians cuss? That's irrelevant and the
answer is probably yes. But should Christians cuss? I believe
that answer is no. And although I wouldn't put judgment
(44:27):
on current Christians and say you shouldn't cuss, and I
absolutely would not put that judgment on a non Christian,
and I would never say that word offends me. I'm
gonna listen to it and as someone's talking to me
and they go, so sorry for the language, I'm gonna say, no,
need to apologize. And in my mind, I'm thinking you
don't have Jesus, so let me tell you the gospel.
Don't apologize for your words. I understand. I'll give you
(44:49):
grace for that. But for the Christian, if they ask me,
I'm gonna say, brother, I don't think it is right,
and I think you will be sanctified. And I think eventually,
just like we saw in that video with George, I
think true repentance is right around the corner.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
For you.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Love you guys, If you again, if you have a question,
email podcast at grangersmith dot com and we'll see you
next week.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
GG.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Thanks for joining me on the granger Smith Podcast. I
appreciate all of you guys. You could help me out
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gmail dot com.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Gig
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