May 7, 2024 • 28 mins
Amy & Kat both share quotes in today's episode...one about living & another about the opposite (but that quote may spark an idea of what you want to happen to you once you die!)
Other Things Discussed:
- Sneaky Weights
- Keith Urban's Love Language
- Judah & the Lion's new album + the 5 stages of grief Body Keeps the Score
- Poetry for Neanderthals
- Email from a listener named Carol in Florida!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Amy and I'm Kat And today's quote is some
days I am the sun, other days I am the rain.
Without either, the garden will not grow. And just heads up.
I'm at the rain today in that I'm sad or gloomy.
I'm just the rain. Like I don't know that I'm
all bright and sunny. I just am exhausted because my
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body is no longer built to stay out till four am,
which I did on Saturday night. And it's Monday when
we're recording this, and I feel like when you go
hard like that, which I haven't in quite some time.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I love hearing you say go hard.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Well. I was in Austin for our iHeart Country Fest
and my sister and my niece flew in from Colorado.
They come to the festival every year as well, and
we decided to go out afterwards to like a little
thing Jelly Rolf was doing after the show, like a
private thing, and my niece was so excited. Roll's big
in the college crowd, and she was like, oh, we
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have to go, And I said do we and she
was like yes, And so I thought, well, my niece
did just turn twenty one. Recently, she can actually go
out and hang out have a good time. My sister
and I can be with her. I don't get to
see them that much. I need to rally and go out.
So we did, and we were out till four And
that is just not how I am built. And everything hurts,
(01:28):
mostly my brain, but also from wearing my heels all
weekend because it's a busy weekend of events, and I
basically need to book an appointment with my chiropractor because
not just my feet that hurt from the heels, it's
like my lower back, my shoulders. This is like body
keeps the score, but not from like this isn't emotional
build up. It's just from being on my feet all
weekend and walking around and going much. Yeah, so that's
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why I'm the rain. But I also feel a little
sunny too. That quote, by the way, is from Cassandra
McKenzie Wood, who's an author and a poet, and I
just thought it was a good reminder that whatever is
going on weatherwise in your life, your garden will still
grow from it. It's necessary to have all the things both.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
And so what are you? Are you sunny or rainy today?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I wanted to say I was a little bit of both.
But the issue is I'm working from home today because
all my clients were virtual and my internet's better at
my house. But then I realized I don't usually do that.
I realized I haven't really left my house and I
haven't been outside or like touched the air. So I'm
feeling like I'm the sun, but I haven't had a
chance to like be the sun. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, you need to go outside. You need to leave,
yeah and shine after we record. I'm gonna walk my
dog too, because I think that'll help fill me up.
I am personally trying to walk at least twenty to
thirty minutes a day.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Whatever that looks like.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Could be walking with a friend, could be walking with
my dog, could be power walking with my ankle weights
or my hand weights.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
It could be no weights. It could be all by treadmill.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Don't you have those cute handweights, the ankle weights or whatever. Yeah,
so we were talking about them when my friend were
because we went on a walk and it was strenuitz.
I was more sore from my walk than I feel
like I was when I went to a workout class
this week. And so I told Patrick, I said, Taylor
and I have been thinking about getting ankle weights, would
you still go on this walk with me? And he
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was like no, but I think I probably made fun
of you when you got them, but now they're growing
on me. And also they're cute. You can get like
a purple one or like they had seafoam green ones.
So I think I'm in my middle aged ankle weight
wrist weight era join us.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
It's the place to be. Bala is the brand.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Bala Target has some too, or you can order them online,
but they really do have cute colors. And I've put
those around my ankle and then I straight up you
can put them on your wrists, but I don't have
two different pairs, so I'll straight up put my three
pound little dumbbells in my arms and I'll power walk
with those. At one point in time, I wanted to
invent something. This is before Bala came out, which they
(04:05):
did it right. I'm like, oh, they figured out how
to make it chice and cute, but I wanted to
invent sneaky weights because I was embarrassed. I was in
my twenties early thirties power walking with my hand weights
and I wanted to conceal them more.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
So I thought, well, I'm going.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
To design sneaky weights, and I just wasn't ever able
to figure it out.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Would that be like a Bengal?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Well, I did never think of it being like a bangle,
but I wanted it to just be a smaller weight
of sorts. But when I was trying to source the
material in order for it to be at least two
pounds or something depending on the type of material you
wanted to use to make the weight, it was still
taking out too much space. I didn't have the idea
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to design it like cute little you know, bracelet bengals.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
She thought of that, which is amazing whoever founded that company?
But I founded the name Sneaky weights, So like I
was almost there. It's like I almost was there with
Netflix as well back in the day, but I didn't
quite invent it.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I've noticeden a trend because you have multiple things that
you've tried to invent. Didn't you have like a RICCI thing?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
We you would call a company for places you can't
reach dot com?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Uh okay. Also the fact that you said I was
sourcing the materials made it sound like you got pretty
far into this invention.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I asked around.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I was sending emails trying to figure out what the
size of a certain weight would be depending on the material.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, I bet there's something brewing in your brain, like
you need to go forth with these things. I don't
know if Places you could Reach would have taken off,
but sneakywaits that name. I like it well.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Places you can't Reach dot Com was for like, yeah,
if you have things high up, like the other day,
I had to change some light bulbs, but I don't
have a ladder the size of the that I needed,
So I had a painter here doing some stuff because
I'm getting my house ready to put on the market.
And I had the painter helped me out because he
had a tall enough ladder. But I could have called
places you Can't Reach dot Com or gone online to
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order someone to come and help me because I couldn't
reach it. But also, if you're self tanning and you
can't reach the spot in the middle of your back,
you hit up Places you can't reach dot Com and
they'll come and reach that part of your back.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
You get to pick which person comes.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Well, I don't know that I really had thought through
the entire business model, but yeah, sneaky ways places you
can't reach dot Com. And then the time in college
so early two thousands where my friends and I didn't
want to go to Blockbuster to rent the movie, and
we were thinking, Ah, other people probably don't want to
go either. What if we started a business for them
where we went to Blockbuster and rented the movies for
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them and dropped them off and picked them up.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
You missed out there, You really missed out there.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
And the next thing, you know, NEP says like, we'll
mail you your DVDs?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Were like, what you stole that from us? We thought
of it first.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
It was like uber for VHS tapes or DVDs from Blockbuster,
which to being the sun or the rain, and kind
of in that vein of like where you are in life,
what you want. Something else that happened at iHeart Country
Festival was I asked Keith Urban what his love language
is and he said music and I said.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Oh, okay, that's not one of the options.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
That's incorrect.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I do like that.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
And he said, oh, I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And I thought, wow, I guess I thought most everybody
knew what the love languages were, or at least they've
heard of the five love languages. But I guess it's
not as universal as I thought because he hadn't heard
of it down Under.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Down Under? It doesn't he live here?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, but he's from Australia, and so I thought, wow,
Nicole Kidman has never been like, hey, Keith, let's figure
out our love languages.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I just thought that they might be into that, but
he straight up had no idea what I was talking about.
And then I said, well, what's your enneagram number? He
had no idea what the enneagram was, and I thought.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Huh, don't you go to therapy.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I'm not sure that maybe music is healing for him,
and maybe he does go to therapy, but they work
on other things.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
But I thought, Keith, what about words of affirmation, acts
of service, physical touch, quality time?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
What's another one? Gifts?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I rattled them off, and he said, well, Aim, if
I did know them, I wouldn't tell people. And I
just thought, it's not like an intimate private thing, is it.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I don't know, unless he was didn't want to give
just like personal information like that out or like if
he's like, gifts are my love language, and then people
start sending him tons of gifts.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I don't know what it's like to be Keith Urban.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Well. I did tell him that it could be in
a professional setting too, but I'm not quite sure how
physical touch goes over in the workspace. I'm not quite
sure how physical touch goes over in the workspace.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I'm a therapist and my love language is physical touch.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
So how do we handle that?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Like, as your friend, I know that I can touch
you and you like that, but do employees that like
physical touch? Like for me, as an employee, words of
affirmation mean so much. Hearing that I did a good
job goes over really well with me, like it'll increase
my performance at work, and that's likely because that's my
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love language. So I don't know, is like a pat
on the back sufficient.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Well, okay, that actually brings up the whole other discussion,
because I don't know if I worked somewhere with a
lot of men or just in a professional setting, I
don't want my boss touching me. I would like words
of affirmation that to me is encouragement more than like love.
I don't know that I necessarily need to feel love
from my boss. I don't know. I actually don't have
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a boss, so I don't know what that's like. But
I think when it comes to me as a therapist
and also as clients, because as clients who their love
language is physical touch, and me as a therapist is
creating like distance in space and when they're crying, I'm
not like putting a hand on their shoulder or like
I worked with a therapists who always like played with
clients hair, which like god, like if it's like weird boundaries, yes, weird,
(10:16):
it was weird.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Wait what that's a headline here? I need to understand
what was happening.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
When I worked in a treatment center. At first, I
was an intern, so I was like, Wow, she's so
like connects with their clients and she's just so you know, motherly,
and she was, but she would always just like play
with her clients. The way I'm saying it makes it
sound really weird, it really wasn't that weird. But she
could only do it with certain clients and she had
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to have permission from them. I mean that's where it
like was a natural thing for her. I think her
love language giving it out was physical touch, and so
can mine. And so I had to learn early on
one you need consent to have to touch a client,
and that might feel weird. It might feel like awkward
to not be able to somebody when they're crying, or
to hug somebody even when they're like leaving your office
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or when you meet them. That could be a very
natural thing for me to do and receive. So there's
a lot of conversations I would have to have with
clients about that of like just so you know there's
boundaries here, or when there was something happening that I
had this desire to like reach out and touch client,
I would have to ask myself is this for me?
Or is this for them? And if it was for them,
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I could say, can I give you a hug? Or
can I sit next to you on this couch or
something like that, which, again it's a little bit wonky
because it's not natural, but it also helps create safety
and respect and trust.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Okay, as you're telling the story, I'm sitting here thinking
about that game you told me about earlier poetry for Neanderthals,
and I'm picturing you sitting down next to your client
and being like, can I touch hair?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
But I could say can I touch your hair?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Oh? Yours?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Well okay.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
So the point of the game is you can only
use one word syllables to describe something that is happening.
But I'm just picturing you sitting there talking like a
Neanderthal and be like me.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Touch hair? How would you say? Are you okay? Are
you good?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
You good? So wait, you should do one. So the
game is really fun. We played it at a game
night and it also comes with a blow up bat
and part of the game is if you use a
two syllable word, then somebody bonks you in the head
with the bat. It sounds like a really weird game,
but they give you a card, like a catchphrase card
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like it will say like s'mores or porta potty or
something like that, and you have to give us clues
to guess what that word is only using one syllable words.
So think of a word and then do it to me.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Okay, I have one big thing like bird.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
It scare me.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Out. Big thing, big thing like bird like birds, old time.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Old time bird, dinosaur.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Big thing like bird, it's scare me loud.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Peacock, old old it's dead.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
What's a dinosaur that flies? Am I clothes?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, you're close. Laptosaurus, a terrhinosaurus rex.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Wait a trisaurs. Rex does not fly? It doesn't. T
Rex is the one with the.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Little okay maybeterodactyl tarodactyl.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I think that's the one that flies.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Okay, big thing like bird.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
It scare me.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Okay, soterodactyl.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
This sounds like so much fun. I need to get
this game. I want to order it and do a
game night a sap.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
We borrowed it from a friend, but we need to
buy it because I was dying laughing because I mean,
big thing like bird.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Now I want to go to Keith ev and be
like you not like love, you know, speak love.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
What have you had to do an interview like that? Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
We've done things like that on the Bobby Bone Show before,
where artists come in and they don't know that Bobby's
told us like, hey, you can speak, but you can
only ask them a question in three words, like it
can be multiple syllables. So it's not like this game,
but it would be like I think one time Dan
and Shay was in and I could talk, but I
had to ask them about their album, and so I'd.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Be like, you make songs, tell about album?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Me like music?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, how many songs? Question Mark. So that's something that
we've done before. But I may actually bring this concept
to the show for something like if our next interview
that we haven't and whoever it is, my luck, it'll
be like, oh, Amy, you get to sit down with
George straight and you can only use one syllable words.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Wait, So like, did Dan and Shade know you had
that rule?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
No?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Are they just like what's wrong with her?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yes, you get weird looks because we've done it with
other artists two and other stupid rules. That's just one
that I happen to remember, but there's been other things
like you have to work in certain words or say
something a certain way to where the artist definitely looks perplexed,
but they just roll with it because they're like, Okay,
I don't really know what's happening here, but then we
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fill them in afterwards. So it is kind of funny.
We interviewed Judah and the Lion today. They came in
and pre taped an interview because they have a new
album out called The Process, and I feel like you're
gonna love the concept of their album and you're gonna
love listening to it. I think there's nineteen songs, and
the album goes in order of the stages of grief,
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and there's a couple to two songs per stage, and
so then you skip to the next one and he's
sang one of the songs from the anger stage, and
it definitely had a lot of emotion and you felt
the anger. And then he's sang one of the songs
from the acceptance stage, so that was a little more hopeful.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
What was that song called?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I don't remember. He gave us the vinyl record, so
I could go, that's so look at it. But I thought, wow,
that's going to be really healing for a lot of people.
I mean, I'm sure it was therapeutic for them. Yeah,
And you know, they say, hey, we're not experts or anything.
This is just a creative way for us to share
the work that we've been doing on ourselves through music,
and in turn, hopefully it could be healing for their
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fans if they're processing any type of grief. But the
five stages are denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance, and
that's from the Koubler Ross stuff, which I know you
and I have talked about before, and some say there's
even more stages mixed in, and they can go in
that order, or they may go all over the place.
You can go in and out of those at different times,
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but they did it in that order. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I obviously love the concept of that album, and I
love their music. But one of the things that I
think is so important for them too, even if they're
not experts, they're experts and humans with having feelings, and
that sounds like such a cool tool, whether their fans
or their music or not, if you're going through those
stages to be like I'm angry and I don't want
to be alone in my anger to listen to that song,
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or I'm in this acceptance phase and I did not
think I was going to get here. This is crazy.
I'm going to go listen to that song and it's
just an idea of not being alone in it. Like,
even though we don't know those people, it's so helpful
for me to hear music that people have written from
personal stories because I can think to myself, oh, look,
these people are people that look like they've moved through
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certain things or aren't still in that place, and I'm
in that place, and so it's helpful for me to
hear that they were there too when I have been
in my deepest, darkest pits. That has been so helpful
to be able to listen to something from somebody I
respect and be like, oh my gosh, I'm not crazy.
You've been here too.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Juda even shared that he had back pain for about
three years, and after we got into Body Keeps the
Score and processing some of his grief and things he
didn't even realize he had going on, his back pain
went away. And that reminds me of another quote that
I saw about that shoot. I don't know who said it,
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but it was like, if you don't make time for
your wellness, then you're going to be forced to make
time for your illness.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Oh wow, Okay, I just looked it up.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Joyce sun Sunday Sundata Snata Sanata Joyce Joyce s It's
if you don't make time for your wellness, you'll be
forced to make time for your illness. And I'm really
excited to listen to the entire record from what I
heard today, and I know you're a huge Judah and
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the lion fan. So I thought that was a really
cool concept in what they're doing. And I just thought
of some quote that you shared on Instagram or some
meme that you put up that kind of applies to
what we've been talking about today because we were talking
about playing games. I just thought of some quote that
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you shared on Instagram or some meme that you put
up that kind of applies to what we've been talking
about today, because we were talking about playing games and
then if you don't make time for your wellness, then
you might get ill and die. So was it about
death and like making your ashes into that hourglass so
that you can still play games.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I read this and I start cracking up on the
couch and Patrick was like, what are you laughing at?
And I just showed him my phone and he goes,
that would be pretty.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Sick like sick like sick like cool like okayick bro,
because it also could be sick.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Oh no, he meant like that would be awesome. But
the meme said, if you're cremated after you die, you
could be put in an hourglass and continue to participate
in family game nights. Well, like I would do that.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
That's sound fun.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Me want that, like, I really think that you should
consider doing that with yourself later in life.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Cat, You're serious, right, Yeah, I would do that.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I mean I don't know if anybody would actually use it,
might be weired out by it. But my forensic science
teacher in high school told us that when he and
his wife die, they're going to turn themselves into diamonds
and give them to their children. I guess they won't
be alive to give it themselves, but that's what they
want done with their bodies, which I didn't know that
was possible. You can turn your ashes into a diamond.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yes, I knew that was possible because my dad got cremated,
and when I went and met with them about that,
they give you this pamphlet with all these options. And
then also before they cremate your family member, you can
check a box if you would like a necklace with
like their thumbprint on it, or you can have their
ashes put inside a little cross or any type of jewelry.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Really, it doesn't even have to be a diamond.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
They can use their ashes to be a part of bracelets, rings, necklaces, earrings,
all kinds of things, or before they no longer have fingers,
snag that fingerprint for something said that. I guess I
could have done that with my mom too, before she
was buried. That may have been an option. Yeah, I
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don't know, it's weird. I'm kind of wishing I would
have scooped up some of my dad's ashes now though,
and put them in a little hourglass so he could
play games.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Do you still have his ashes?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
No, we buried them.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I know it was weird because you think you would
spread them, but we just buried them in dilly texas,
like in the box.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Well, you can always go back, go back and find.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
You know what else we did at my dad's funeral,
Like at the grave site after it was all said
and done, my sister brought a cooler full of little
mini cokes and then a basket full of peanuts, and
we served coke and peanuts to everybody because that's was
my dad's road trip snack. And if you've never tried it,
it actually is really good, and it's hands free sort
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of because.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
You're able to drive.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
You pour the peanuts inside the coke bottle, a little
glass bottle, and then when you're sipping the coke, the
peanuts end up in your mouth and you've got a
little snack to where you're not having to like eat
and drink at the same time.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
It had to be a bottle coke.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
It's a vibe.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I suppose you could pour them into the can coke,
but the energy, the esthetic, like everything from the little
cute glass bottle. But I mean, I guess if my
dad was just pulling over to gas station, he'd just
get whatever they had. But for the sake of the funeral,
we had a vibe. I've got an email real quick
that I want to share before we wrap up, and
it's from Carol. She said, Hey, ladies, I was listening
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to your Fifth Thing the April ninth episode, and I
was out walking wishing you were with me so I
could share some thoughts. So here I am emailing you
later in the day. First, I love the Fifth Thing.
You too, compliment each other so well, Such a good balance. Kat,
you read my mind. When Amy mentioned Tony Robbins, I too,
am rather suspicious of his way.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Amy.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I'm a fifty nine year old semi retired nurse that
has gone through menopause. I am very much into the
science of everything. I followed doctor Mary Claire and she
does have a lot of wonderful insight. However, I had
to unfollow her when she started doing supplements and her
book came out.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
The diet made me uneasy.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Side note, Thanks to you and Lisa, I realized I
was orthorexic in twenty twenty. I have rebalanced my life
and I'm thankful for you and Kat being very supportive
in that subject. If you have time, I'm going to
send you a podcast by doctor Newsan. She is much
like doctor Mary Claire. In fact, they recently did a
podcast together. But doctor Newson has an app called Balance
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where you can track menopausal symptoms and it has really
interesting information. Now I know this is long, but I
want to share something about nutrition, not diet. I've been
following a lot of science based sources, and many talk
about how much fiber and protein we need as we're aging,
and I was really trying to focus on that. I
wasn't measuring food, I was just adding more protein, and
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all day long I found that I was so full.
But I thought, man, I got to get all of
this in. But then I wasn't feeling good because I
was so full at the end of the day. So
I've tried to relax again and eat when I'm hungry,
not just because I need to get more protein in.
And it seems like that's what we need to do.
Listen to our bodies and stop feeling pressured again. Thank
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you both so much for all of your hard work
on Instagram and your podcasts. They really are fantastic. Your
friend Carol from Parish, Florida, and I thought Kat would
particularly appreciate that email because I know the hormone diet
stuff you've been seeing online lately has been what's the word,
I don't want to speak for you.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
I've only heard of that diet. I don't think that
a lot of that content gets to me anymore, but
I've heard about it from clients and people in the field,
and I wouldn't use the word triggering. I err on
the side of caution anytime I hear that stuff, because
I'm sure there's something to it. But I love what
what Carol said and the fact that like her, following
something like that was actually taking the power away from
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her to be able to take care of herself the
best way. It was hurting more than helping. And sometimes
the most important thing to do is not to do
everything the right way. It's to do it the way
that makes sense for you, your life, your body and
where you are.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, I think that that's good advice. And I know
that I'm in a place where I can follow doctor
Mary Clare and I'm okay, but there may be a
time where I may not be. And this isn't to
pick on doctor Mary Clare at all, whatsoever, She's doing
amazing things.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
It could be anybody you follow.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
And just you have to check in with yourself on
how you feel or what you're being led to do
and how your behavior is changing because of it, and
then again focusing on how you feel at the end
of the day. Because I personally have felt a lot
of pressure to make sure I'm getting a certain amount
of protein and it has been stressing me out a
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little bit. So I think I need to back down
and just listen to our friend Carol and be like, Okay,
I'm doing my best. I don't have to like wake
up in the middle of the night and drink a
scup of protein powder because I.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
You know, didn't meet my requirements.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah, and sometimes it's better to be able to enjoy
food and get the most amount of protein you can
get in your food then feel like you have to
like add all of these supplements. The stress of it
doesn't balance out the nutrients you're even getting.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, I just know with aging it is one of
those things where it's like your things just start to
change and you're like, oh, my muscle isn't staying. But
I do think ever since I've started my testosterone cream,
I kid you not, I feel a little more muscle
in my booty.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Not gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
I have a wreck for people that I've started following,
and it's the Unbiased Sipod on Instagram. They have a podcast,
but Unbiased Scipod, and they look at a lot of
popular stuff like that, and then we'll give like a
very factual information of this is what this means. This
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is where they're getting their information, like they in Layman's
turn terms will explain studies. If this is really as
important as the people are making out to be. Is
this really a gimmick? It's been really helpful because I
don't understand a lot of that stuff, so I'm just
skeptical of everything, and they lay it out in terms
where like I feel like it can make an informed decision.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I love that. Say it again, what was the site.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
It's on Instagram, Unbiased sipod.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Oh it's a podcast too, Yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
They have so many good like infograms too. They'll put
summarize some of their podcasts.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Oh, I'm definitely gonna check that out. Thanks Kat, You're welcome.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
All right.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Well, Kat and I hope that y'all are having the
day that you need to have whatever it is that
you're doing while you listen to us. Just thank you
for listening to us, and check out Kat on her
other podcasts You Need Therapy. She's got two different types
of episodes, couch Talks on Wednesday, so tomorrow she'll have
a Couch Talks episode up and on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Kat is Atkat dot Defada and I am at Radio
A nailed it. Bye bye mhm
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Amy and I'm Kat And today's quote is some
days I am the sun, other days I am the rain.
Without either, the garden will not grow. And just heads up.
I'm at the rain today in that I'm sad or gloomy.
I'm just the rain. Like I don't know that I'm
all bright and sunny. I just am exhausted because my
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body is no longer built to stay out till four am,
which I did on Saturday night. And it's Monday when
we're recording this, and I feel like when you go
hard like that, which I haven't in quite some time.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I love hearing you say go hard.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Well. I was in Austin for our iHeart Country Fest
and my sister and my niece flew in from Colorado.
They come to the festival every year as well, and
we decided to go out afterwards to like a little
thing Jelly Rolf was doing after the show, like a
private thing, and my niece was so excited. Roll's big
in the college crowd, and she was like, oh, we
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have to go, And I said do we and she
was like yes, And so I thought, well, my niece
did just turn twenty one. Recently, she can actually go
out and hang out have a good time. My sister
and I can be with her. I don't get to
see them that much. I need to rally and go out.
So we did, and we were out till four And
that is just not how I am built. And everything hurts,
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mostly my brain, but also from wearing my heels all
weekend because it's a busy weekend of events, and I
basically need to book an appointment with my chiropractor because
not just my feet that hurt from the heels, it's
like my lower back, my shoulders. This is like body
keeps the score, but not from like this isn't emotional
build up. It's just from being on my feet all
weekend and walking around and going much. Yeah, so that's
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why I'm the rain. But I also feel a little
sunny too. That quote, by the way, is from Cassandra
McKenzie Wood, who's an author and a poet, and I
just thought it was a good reminder that whatever is
going on weatherwise in your life, your garden will still
grow from it. It's necessary to have all the things both.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
And so what are you? Are you sunny or rainy today?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I wanted to say I was a little bit of both.
But the issue is I'm working from home today because
all my clients were virtual and my internet's better at
my house. But then I realized I don't usually do that.
I realized I haven't really left my house and I
haven't been outside or like touched the air. So I'm
feeling like I'm the sun, but I haven't had a
chance to like be the sun. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, you need to go outside. You need to leave,
yeah and shine after we record. I'm gonna walk my
dog too, because I think that'll help fill me up.
I am personally trying to walk at least twenty to
thirty minutes a day.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Whatever that looks like.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Could be walking with a friend, could be walking with
my dog, could be power walking with my ankle weights
or my hand weights.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
It could be no weights. It could be all by treadmill.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Don't you have those cute handweights, the ankle weights or whatever. Yeah,
so we were talking about them when my friend were
because we went on a walk and it was strenuitz.
I was more sore from my walk than I feel
like I was when I went to a workout class
this week. And so I told Patrick, I said, Taylor
and I have been thinking about getting ankle weights, would
you still go on this walk with me? And he
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was like no, but I think I probably made fun
of you when you got them, but now they're growing
on me. And also they're cute. You can get like
a purple one or like they had seafoam green ones.
So I think I'm in my middle aged ankle weight
wrist weight era join us.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
It's the place to be. Bala is the brand.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Bala Target has some too, or you can order them online,
but they really do have cute colors. And I've put
those around my ankle and then I straight up you
can put them on your wrists, but I don't have
two different pairs, so I'll straight up put my three
pound little dumbbells in my arms and I'll power walk
with those. At one point in time, I wanted to
invent something. This is before Bala came out, which they
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did it right. I'm like, oh, they figured out how
to make it chice and cute, but I wanted to
invent sneaky weights because I was embarrassed. I was in
my twenties early thirties power walking with my hand weights
and I wanted to conceal them more.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
So I thought, well, I'm going.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
To design sneaky weights, and I just wasn't ever able
to figure it out.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Would that be like a Bengal?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Well, I did never think of it being like a bangle,
but I wanted it to just be a smaller weight
of sorts. But when I was trying to source the
material in order for it to be at least two
pounds or something depending on the type of material you
wanted to use to make the weight, it was still
taking out too much space. I didn't have the idea
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to design it like cute little you know, bracelet bengals.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
She thought of that, which is amazing whoever founded that company?
But I founded the name Sneaky weights, So like I
was almost there. It's like I almost was there with
Netflix as well back in the day, but I didn't
quite invent it.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I've noticeden a trend because you have multiple things that
you've tried to invent. Didn't you have like a RICCI thing?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
We you would call a company for places you can't
reach dot com?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Uh okay. Also the fact that you said I was
sourcing the materials made it sound like you got pretty
far into this invention.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I asked around.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I was sending emails trying to figure out what the
size of a certain weight would be depending on the material.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, I bet there's something brewing in your brain, like
you need to go forth with these things. I don't
know if Places you could Reach would have taken off,
but sneakywaits that name. I like it well.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Places you can't Reach dot Com was for like, yeah,
if you have things high up, like the other day,
I had to change some light bulbs, but I don't
have a ladder the size of the that I needed,
So I had a painter here doing some stuff because
I'm getting my house ready to put on the market.
And I had the painter helped me out because he
had a tall enough ladder. But I could have called
places you Can't Reach dot Com or gone online to
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order someone to come and help me because I couldn't
reach it. But also, if you're self tanning and you
can't reach the spot in the middle of your back,
you hit up Places you can't reach dot Com and
they'll come and reach that part of your back.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
You get to pick which person comes.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Well, I don't know that I really had thought through
the entire business model, but yeah, sneaky ways places you
can't reach dot Com. And then the time in college
so early two thousands where my friends and I didn't
want to go to Blockbuster to rent the movie, and
we were thinking, Ah, other people probably don't want to
go either. What if we started a business for them
where we went to Blockbuster and rented the movies for
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them and dropped them off and picked them up.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
You missed out there, You really missed out there.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
And the next thing, you know, NEP says like, we'll
mail you your DVDs?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Were like, what you stole that from us? We thought
of it first.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
It was like uber for VHS tapes or DVDs from Blockbuster,
which to being the sun or the rain, and kind
of in that vein of like where you are in life,
what you want. Something else that happened at iHeart Country
Festival was I asked Keith Urban what his love language
is and he said music and I said.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Oh, okay, that's not one of the options.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
That's incorrect.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I do like that.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
And he said, oh, I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And I thought, wow, I guess I thought most everybody
knew what the love languages were, or at least they've
heard of the five love languages. But I guess it's
not as universal as I thought because he hadn't heard
of it down Under.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Down Under? It doesn't he live here?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, but he's from Australia, and so I thought, wow,
Nicole Kidman has never been like, hey, Keith, let's figure
out our love languages.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I just thought that they might be into that, but
he straight up had no idea what I was talking about.
And then I said, well, what's your enneagram number? He
had no idea what the enneagram was, and I thought.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Huh, don't you go to therapy.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I'm not sure that maybe music is healing for him,
and maybe he does go to therapy, but they work
on other things.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
But I thought, Keith, what about words of affirmation, acts
of service, physical touch, quality time?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
What's another one? Gifts?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I rattled them off, and he said, well, Aim, if
I did know them, I wouldn't tell people. And I
just thought, it's not like an intimate private thing, is it.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I don't know, unless he was didn't want to give
just like personal information like that out or like if
he's like, gifts are my love language, and then people
start sending him tons of gifts.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I don't know what it's like to be Keith Urban.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Well. I did tell him that it could be in
a professional setting too, but I'm not quite sure how
physical touch goes over in the workspace. I'm not quite
sure how physical touch goes over in the workspace.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I'm a therapist and my love language is physical touch.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
So how do we handle that?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Like, as your friend, I know that I can touch
you and you like that, but do employees that like
physical touch? Like for me, as an employee, words of
affirmation mean so much. Hearing that I did a good
job goes over really well with me, like it'll increase
my performance at work, and that's likely because that's my
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love language. So I don't know, is like a pat
on the back sufficient.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Well, okay, that actually brings up the whole other discussion,
because I don't know if I worked somewhere with a
lot of men or just in a professional setting, I
don't want my boss touching me. I would like words
of affirmation that to me is encouragement more than like love.
I don't know that I necessarily need to feel love
from my boss. I don't know. I actually don't have
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a boss, so I don't know what that's like. But
I think when it comes to me as a therapist
and also as clients, because as clients who their love
language is physical touch, and me as a therapist is
creating like distance in space and when they're crying, I'm
not like putting a hand on their shoulder or like
I worked with a therapists who always like played with
clients hair, which like god, like if it's like weird boundaries, yes, weird,
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it was weird.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Wait what that's a headline here? I need to understand
what was happening.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
When I worked in a treatment center. At first, I
was an intern, so I was like, Wow, she's so
like connects with their clients and she's just so you know, motherly,
and she was, but she would always just like play
with her clients. The way I'm saying it makes it
sound really weird, it really wasn't that weird. But she
could only do it with certain clients and she had
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to have permission from them. I mean that's where it
like was a natural thing for her. I think her
love language giving it out was physical touch, and so
can mine. And so I had to learn early on
one you need consent to have to touch a client,
and that might feel weird. It might feel like awkward
to not be able to somebody when they're crying, or
to hug somebody even when they're like leaving your office
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or when you meet them. That could be a very
natural thing for me to do and receive. So there's
a lot of conversations I would have to have with
clients about that of like just so you know there's
boundaries here, or when there was something happening that I
had this desire to like reach out and touch client,
I would have to ask myself is this for me?
Or is this for them? And if it was for them,
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I could say, can I give you a hug? Or
can I sit next to you on this couch or
something like that, which, again it's a little bit wonky
because it's not natural, but it also helps create safety
and respect and trust.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Okay, as you're telling the story, I'm sitting here thinking
about that game you told me about earlier poetry for Neanderthals,
and I'm picturing you sitting down next to your client
and being like, can I touch hair?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
But I could say can I touch your hair?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Oh? Yours?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Well okay.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
So the point of the game is you can only
use one word syllables to describe something that is happening.
But I'm just picturing you sitting there talking like a
Neanderthal and be like me.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Touch hair? How would you say? Are you okay? Are
you good?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
You good? So wait, you should do one. So the
game is really fun. We played it at a game
night and it also comes with a blow up bat
and part of the game is if you use a
two syllable word, then somebody bonks you in the head
with the bat. It sounds like a really weird game,
but they give you a card, like a catchphrase card
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like it will say like s'mores or porta potty or
something like that, and you have to give us clues
to guess what that word is only using one syllable words.
So think of a word and then do it to me.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Okay, I have one big thing like bird.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
It scare me.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Out. Big thing, big thing like bird like birds, old time.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Old time bird, dinosaur.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Big thing like bird, it's scare me loud.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Peacock, old old it's dead.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
What's a dinosaur that flies? Am I clothes?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, you're close. Laptosaurus, a terrhinosaurus rex.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Wait a trisaurs. Rex does not fly? It doesn't. T
Rex is the one with the.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Little okay maybeterodactyl tarodactyl.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I think that's the one that flies.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Okay, big thing like bird.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
It scare me.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Okay, soterodactyl.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
This sounds like so much fun. I need to get
this game. I want to order it and do a
game night a sap.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
We borrowed it from a friend, but we need to
buy it because I was dying laughing because I mean,
big thing like bird.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Now I want to go to Keith ev and be
like you not like love, you know, speak love.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
What have you had to do an interview like that? Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
We've done things like that on the Bobby Bone Show before,
where artists come in and they don't know that Bobby's
told us like, hey, you can speak, but you can
only ask them a question in three words, like it
can be multiple syllables. So it's not like this game,
but it would be like I think one time Dan
and Shay was in and I could talk, but I
had to ask them about their album, and so I'd.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Be like, you make songs, tell about album?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Me like music?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, how many songs? Question Mark. So that's something that
we've done before. But I may actually bring this concept
to the show for something like if our next interview
that we haven't and whoever it is, my luck, it'll
be like, oh, Amy, you get to sit down with
George straight and you can only use one syllable words.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Wait, So like, did Dan and Shade know you had
that rule?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
No?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Are they just like what's wrong with her?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yes, you get weird looks because we've done it with
other artists two and other stupid rules. That's just one
that I happen to remember, but there's been other things
like you have to work in certain words or say
something a certain way to where the artist definitely looks perplexed,
but they just roll with it because they're like, Okay,
I don't really know what's happening here, but then we
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fill them in afterwards. So it is kind of funny.
We interviewed Judah and the Lion today. They came in
and pre taped an interview because they have a new
album out called The Process, and I feel like you're
gonna love the concept of their album and you're gonna
love listening to it. I think there's nineteen songs, and
the album goes in order of the stages of grief,
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and there's a couple to two songs per stage, and
so then you skip to the next one and he's
sang one of the songs from the anger stage, and
it definitely had a lot of emotion and you felt
the anger. And then he's sang one of the songs
from the acceptance stage, so that was a little more hopeful.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
What was that song called?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I don't remember. He gave us the vinyl record, so
I could go, that's so look at it. But I thought, wow,
that's going to be really healing for a lot of people.
I mean, I'm sure it was therapeutic for them. Yeah,
And you know, they say, hey, we're not experts or anything.
This is just a creative way for us to share
the work that we've been doing on ourselves through music,
and in turn, hopefully it could be healing for their
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fans if they're processing any type of grief. But the
five stages are denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance, and
that's from the Koubler Ross stuff, which I know you
and I have talked about before, and some say there's
even more stages mixed in, and they can go in
that order, or they may go all over the place.
You can go in and out of those at different times,
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but they did it in that order. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I obviously love the concept of that album, and I
love their music. But one of the things that I
think is so important for them too, even if they're
not experts, they're experts and humans with having feelings, and
that sounds like such a cool tool, whether their fans
or their music or not, if you're going through those
stages to be like I'm angry and I don't want
to be alone in my anger to listen to that song,
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or I'm in this acceptance phase and I did not
think I was going to get here. This is crazy.
I'm going to go listen to that song and it's
just an idea of not being alone in it. Like,
even though we don't know those people, it's so helpful
for me to hear music that people have written from
personal stories because I can think to myself, oh, look,
these people are people that look like they've moved through
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certain things or aren't still in that place, and I'm
in that place, and so it's helpful for me to
hear that they were there too when I have been
in my deepest, darkest pits. That has been so helpful
to be able to listen to something from somebody I
respect and be like, oh my gosh, I'm not crazy.
You've been here too.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Juda even shared that he had back pain for about
three years, and after we got into Body Keeps the
Score and processing some of his grief and things he
didn't even realize he had going on, his back pain
went away. And that reminds me of another quote that
I saw about that shoot. I don't know who said it,
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but it was like, if you don't make time for
your wellness, then you're going to be forced to make
time for your illness.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Oh wow, Okay, I just looked it up.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Joyce sun Sunday Sundata Snata Sanata Joyce Joyce s It's
if you don't make time for your wellness, you'll be
forced to make time for your illness. And I'm really
excited to listen to the entire record from what I
heard today, and I know you're a huge Judah and
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the lion fan. So I thought that was a really
cool concept in what they're doing. And I just thought
of some quote that you shared on Instagram or some
meme that you put up that kind of applies to
what we've been talking about today because we were talking
about playing games. I just thought of some quote that
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you shared on Instagram or some meme that you put
up that kind of applies to what we've been talking
about today, because we were talking about playing games and
then if you don't make time for your wellness, then
you might get ill and die. So was it about
death and like making your ashes into that hourglass so
that you can still play games.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I read this and I start cracking up on the
couch and Patrick was like, what are you laughing at?
And I just showed him my phone and he goes,
that would be pretty.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Sick like sick like sick like cool like okayick bro,
because it also could be sick.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Oh no, he meant like that would be awesome. But
the meme said, if you're cremated after you die, you
could be put in an hourglass and continue to participate
in family game nights. Well, like I would do that.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
That's sound fun.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Me want that, like, I really think that you should
consider doing that with yourself later in life.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Cat, You're serious, right, Yeah, I would do that.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I mean I don't know if anybody would actually use it,
might be weired out by it. But my forensic science
teacher in high school told us that when he and
his wife die, they're going to turn themselves into diamonds
and give them to their children. I guess they won't
be alive to give it themselves, but that's what they
want done with their bodies, which I didn't know that
was possible. You can turn your ashes into a diamond.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yes, I knew that was possible because my dad got cremated,
and when I went and met with them about that,
they give you this pamphlet with all these options. And
then also before they cremate your family member, you can
check a box if you would like a necklace with
like their thumbprint on it, or you can have their
ashes put inside a little cross or any type of jewelry.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Really, it doesn't even have to be a diamond.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
They can use their ashes to be a part of bracelets, rings, necklaces, earrings,
all kinds of things, or before they no longer have fingers,
snag that fingerprint for something said that. I guess I
could have done that with my mom too, before she
was buried. That may have been an option. Yeah, I
(21:17):
don't know, it's weird. I'm kind of wishing I would
have scooped up some of my dad's ashes now though,
and put them in a little hourglass so he could
play games.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Do you still have his ashes?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
No, we buried them.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I know it was weird because you think you would
spread them, but we just buried them in dilly texas,
like in the box.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Well, you can always go back, go back and find.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
You know what else we did at my dad's funeral,
Like at the grave site after it was all said
and done, my sister brought a cooler full of little
mini cokes and then a basket full of peanuts, and
we served coke and peanuts to everybody because that's was
my dad's road trip snack. And if you've never tried it,
it actually is really good, and it's hands free sort
(22:01):
of because.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
You're able to drive.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
You pour the peanuts inside the coke bottle, a little
glass bottle, and then when you're sipping the coke, the
peanuts end up in your mouth and you've got a
little snack to where you're not having to like eat
and drink at the same time.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
It had to be a bottle coke.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
It's a vibe.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I suppose you could pour them into the can coke,
but the energy, the esthetic, like everything from the little
cute glass bottle. But I mean, I guess if my
dad was just pulling over to gas station, he'd just
get whatever they had. But for the sake of the funeral,
we had a vibe. I've got an email real quick
that I want to share before we wrap up, and
it's from Carol. She said, Hey, ladies, I was listening
(22:40):
to your Fifth Thing the April ninth episode, and I
was out walking wishing you were with me so I
could share some thoughts. So here I am emailing you
later in the day. First, I love the Fifth Thing.
You too, compliment each other so well, Such a good balance. Kat,
you read my mind. When Amy mentioned Tony Robbins, I too,
am rather suspicious of his way.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Amy.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I'm a fifty nine year old semi retired nurse that
has gone through menopause. I am very much into the
science of everything. I followed doctor Mary Claire and she
does have a lot of wonderful insight. However, I had
to unfollow her when she started doing supplements and her
book came out.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
The diet made me uneasy.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Side note, Thanks to you and Lisa, I realized I
was orthorexic in twenty twenty. I have rebalanced my life
and I'm thankful for you and Kat being very supportive
in that subject. If you have time, I'm going to
send you a podcast by doctor Newsan. She is much
like doctor Mary Claire. In fact, they recently did a
podcast together. But doctor Newson has an app called Balance
(23:39):
where you can track menopausal symptoms and it has really
interesting information. Now I know this is long, but I
want to share something about nutrition, not diet. I've been
following a lot of science based sources, and many talk
about how much fiber and protein we need as we're aging,
and I was really trying to focus on that. I
wasn't measuring food, I was just adding more protein, and
(24:00):
all day long I found that I was so full.
But I thought, man, I got to get all of
this in. But then I wasn't feeling good because I
was so full at the end of the day. So
I've tried to relax again and eat when I'm hungry,
not just because I need to get more protein in.
And it seems like that's what we need to do.
Listen to our bodies and stop feeling pressured again. Thank
(24:21):
you both so much for all of your hard work
on Instagram and your podcasts. They really are fantastic. Your
friend Carol from Parish, Florida, and I thought Kat would
particularly appreciate that email because I know the hormone diet
stuff you've been seeing online lately has been what's the word,
I don't want to speak for you.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
I've only heard of that diet. I don't think that
a lot of that content gets to me anymore, but
I've heard about it from clients and people in the field,
and I wouldn't use the word triggering. I err on
the side of caution anytime I hear that stuff, because
I'm sure there's something to it. But I love what
what Carol said and the fact that like her, following
something like that was actually taking the power away from
(25:04):
her to be able to take care of herself the
best way. It was hurting more than helping. And sometimes
the most important thing to do is not to do
everything the right way. It's to do it the way
that makes sense for you, your life, your body and
where you are.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, I think that that's good advice. And I know
that I'm in a place where I can follow doctor
Mary Clare and I'm okay, but there may be a
time where I may not be. And this isn't to
pick on doctor Mary Clare at all, whatsoever, She's doing
amazing things.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
It could be anybody you follow.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
And just you have to check in with yourself on
how you feel or what you're being led to do
and how your behavior is changing because of it, and
then again focusing on how you feel at the end
of the day. Because I personally have felt a lot
of pressure to make sure I'm getting a certain amount
of protein and it has been stressing me out a
(25:54):
little bit. So I think I need to back down
and just listen to our friend Carol and be like, Okay,
I'm doing my best. I don't have to like wake
up in the middle of the night and drink a
scup of protein powder because I.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
You know, didn't meet my requirements.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah, and sometimes it's better to be able to enjoy
food and get the most amount of protein you can
get in your food then feel like you have to
like add all of these supplements. The stress of it
doesn't balance out the nutrients you're even getting.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, I just know with aging it is one of
those things where it's like your things just start to
change and you're like, oh, my muscle isn't staying. But
I do think ever since I've started my testosterone cream,
I kid you not, I feel a little more muscle
in my booty.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Not gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
I have a wreck for people that I've started following,
and it's the Unbiased Sipod on Instagram. They have a podcast,
but Unbiased Scipod, and they look at a lot of
popular stuff like that, and then we'll give like a
very factual information of this is what this means. This
(27:01):
is where they're getting their information, like they in Layman's
turn terms will explain studies. If this is really as
important as the people are making out to be. Is
this really a gimmick? It's been really helpful because I
don't understand a lot of that stuff, so I'm just
skeptical of everything, and they lay it out in terms
where like I feel like it can make an informed decision.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I love that. Say it again, what was the site.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
It's on Instagram, Unbiased sipod.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Oh it's a podcast too, Yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
They have so many good like infograms too. They'll put
summarize some of their podcasts.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Oh, I'm definitely gonna check that out. Thanks Kat, You're welcome.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
All right.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Well, Kat and I hope that y'all are having the
day that you need to have whatever it is that
you're doing while you listen to us. Just thank you
for listening to us, and check out Kat on her
other podcasts You Need Therapy. She's got two different types
of episodes, couch Talks on Wednesday, so tomorrow she'll have
a Couch Talks episode up and on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Kat is Atkat dot Defada and I am at Radio
A nailed it. Bye bye mhm
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