July 24, 2024 • 56 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, we got boots on the ground at Big Ten Media Days and a recap of Brady’s 3rd & Goal, 14th Annual Blue Jacket Golf Outing. Haason Reddick turned down the offer from the Eagles. Lee’s Knee is still a mess after falling at the Super Bowl. And The Old P, Petros Papadakis talks Big Ten Media Days.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the best of two pros and a couple with
Lamar Rady Win and Jonas Knots on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell we feel on a Wednesday morning?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
How did it go?
Speaker 4 (00:19):
I feel ready to boots on the ground, baby, tell.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Us all about it? How like? What was the high lights?
Were there any low lights?
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Are we talking about the charity event or the big
Tidia is? What were you doing? What'd you do? I
thought you were at your event both right now?
Speaker 5 (00:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Right?
Speaker 6 (00:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I thought, okay, I thought you were doing your.
Speaker 6 (00:39):
I was with some Penn Staters last night, by the way.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah we are bag to.
Speaker 6 (00:45):
Coach James Franklin later on today.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
So nice.
Speaker 6 (00:49):
A lot of Penn Stators though, a lot of Penn
Stators are in.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I mean, you felt you felt at home, You felt comfortable,
like we we love you.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
You know, you're you're one of our guys.
Speaker 7 (00:59):
Yeah sure, I mean we're over here just you know,
trying to try, just trying to get to the season.
You know, a lot of talk, a lot of gabbing,
a lot of dinners, you know that sort of thing.
I would not say which Southern Cal alumni probably is
not feeling.
Speaker 6 (01:13):
Too good right now. I'll wake up this morning.
Speaker 7 (01:15):
But dang is Matt probably probably not what you think though, not.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
What you think? Okay, Well, I mean I'm not even
going to ask. It feels like I'm not even going
to ask.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
So what is the what's the the big conversation on
the ground there, Like what the hell is Oregon doing here?
Like why do they have a duckboat in the in
the water in Indianapolis? Why is why is that happening?
What's a big conversation there? Big ten media days?
Speaker 7 (01:45):
Well, I think everyone is curious where it's all going,
you know, so expansion conversations always get brought up, which
at the moment, I don't believe there's gonna be any
you know, thoughts or conversations of further expansion. So that's
one thing. The next thing is is you know, the
revenue share, how's it going to work?
Speaker 6 (02:03):
You know?
Speaker 7 (02:03):
The SEC when they came out at their conference media days,
had a I guess, a much more detailed planner idea
of what they're looking at doing as far as how
you know, each team's going to share the revenue they're
receiving with their student athletes and specifically with football. So
I think there's some thought to you know, look at
(02:25):
the Big Ten and how they're going to do that
as well. So there's it's a lot of excitement with
the new teams coming in. There's still a lot of
questions right now in college football, and that's okay, you
know this, this whole thing is still coming together. But
I do think at the end of the day, more
teams that end up joining these bigger conferences, it does
lead to better matchups.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
Throughout the course of the year.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
I mean, people's regular season schedule will be daunting, which
may be tough for the teams, but you know, it's
fun for us in the outside.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
M Now, I would like to know about your charity event.
As you know, to me, it's one of the most
important deals is when we're supporting our troops.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
So what what how did that go? Man?
Speaker 6 (03:07):
It was awesome. It was awesome.
Speaker 7 (03:08):
We uh we we raised over one hundred and seventy
five thousand. We've got We've got uh.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
We had some cool stuff this year, have some cool stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
We had.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
We had a drone drop. We had uh. We actually
had a guy. We had a guy go out and.
Speaker 7 (03:23):
Uh basically heckle people on one of the greens. So
we paid him to and they had to you know,
they had to check off on m be okay with it.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
But we paid a guy.
Speaker 7 (03:32):
Essentially he's he's a comedian to absolutely get after him
on the green. I mean from the time they walk
up to the time the bakers in the hole. So uh,
that was a lot of fun. That was when that
stood out. But no, it was a great time. We
uh we had a little rain rain, ended up pushing
through after at the beginning, and end up be in
a beautiful day.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
So it all worked out for a great cause.
Speaker 7 (03:54):
One hundred and seventy five thousand for for veterans out
there with the Third Gold Foundation.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
So it's cool who on the blue jacket.
Speaker 7 (04:01):
Year Brent Racer won the Blue jacket, there was there
was one guy who probably could have won it. He
was absolutely annihilated. He might be just he might be
just waking up today. He might be just waking up.
He played the entire BACKNN with his shirt off, and
(04:23):
I remember looking at him and it was one of
those deals where he was swaying and he was his
eyes were open, but he wasn't really there. And I
kind of looked as I was announcing, thinking I really
should pick this guy, but he has been the tournament
that many years and last year it was kind of
similar to me had another guy win it where he
went after pretty hard. I think he's got it in
(04:45):
him to do something we've never seen before. So I'm
hoping this guy comes back and wins it year fifteen.
That's gonna be my hope because he he's, like I said,
he might be waking.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Up today from from Monday taking a bit of.
Speaker 8 (04:59):
A nast are the like.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
In order to qualify for the blue jacket, you have
to be annihilated and then.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
Who we We would phrase it as it looks like
the person that's having the best time out there.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
So we had people go off the diving board this year.
Have just go over to the local pole.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
Well, everyone else is swimming, enjoy themselves and go off
the diving board. We've had people put golf carts and ponds.
We had people jumping ponds. It all depends. At this point,
we're looking for creativity, so yeah, we'll see what happened.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Wasn't that aj that did the golf cart in the
pond allegedly? Yeah, I mean that's well, I mean, look,
you know I've heard different reports on that. So you know,
I'm not going to say whether it was him or
the meat Wagon or whether or not.
Speaker 8 (05:45):
You know, if somebody went.
Speaker 7 (05:46):
Down, it wasn't. It wasn't the beat wagon. We actually
we had one guy. He should have won it. I
remind him every year he should have won it.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
But he was lobbying to basically pull a tooth, and
it was it was trying to figure out if that
would win him the blue jacket, because because one of
the guys he was playing with has like a tooth
that's bad, and he was trying to figure out if
he could pull this tooth or some way like pull
or cut it out with a butter knife. When he
bele win the blue jacket, I said, if that person
(06:18):
lets me do that and you successfully are able to
remove this tooth, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Wait a second, is this like the same jacket passed
around every year? Is it a different one every single year?
Speaker 7 (06:30):
Like the masters, so they get eventually their own that
fits them. But it's the same exact, exact jacket that
is as cheap as you could find of a Royal
Blue jacket. That it's it's made in China. It's not
very well man somehow would still actually stay together. At
this point, we've got a little ribbon on it that
(06:50):
for it that may or may not look eerily similar
to the blue ribbon label, so don't tell PABs. But yeah,
that's essentially what gets ordered sent out. But uh yeah,
But anyway, this guy, like about ten years ago we
had it. He couldn't. He didn't even finish the round.
I mean, that's how like banked up he got. And
we were we were calling his wife to bring him
(07:13):
back to accept the blue jackets. She was so she
would she would not come back and and accept it
on his behalf. And unfortunately that that relationship did not
end up well oh no, not together anymore?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Oh no? Oh?
Speaker 8 (07:29):
Was that the reason was that the start.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
Of I think it added up to it. But you
know that we're either here nor I mean, it was
not like this.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
You know, if you're willing to go butter knife to
get a tooth out just to win a ten dollars jacket,
I mean, that's.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
That's really different, dude.
Speaker 8 (07:45):
Yeah, that's really I'm.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
Pretty sure it's like sixty bucks if if we're being honest,
but I digress.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Yeah, but but it's not it's not what it costs
to get it or what to make it.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
It's it's the value connected to it.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
It's like a prize at a carnival, right, I mean, you
can buy that stuffed animal anywhere for fifteen cents, but
he got a value shot in.
Speaker 8 (08:05):
Order to do it.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
It's the value, you know, It's it's the experience that's
connected to it. It's the people that's connected to it.
It's it's there's more value to it than what it costs.
So I can't I can understand where the guy from now,
even though it was a very extreme thing that he
was willing.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
To do or what he went.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
I mean, well, I mean it's extreme for him to
do it, But what about the guy who's tooth he's
just taken?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Well, maybe I put them both together, you know, maybe
maybe I was thinking about the tooth.
Speaker 7 (08:35):
I should I should really award it to the guy
who's getting the tooth take it out, not actually the
guy who wants to cut it out with a butter knife.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
Dang, we actually had to talk about out.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Of doing that. I was like, they were going to
do it with a butter knife.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
He was pretty annihilated, like he at this moment the
one guy who had the bad tooth was like, no,
it's really hurt. It's Another guy was like, yeah, I
could take that out. He was very confident.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I was like, I was like, do you need some well,
like I was very confident.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Yeah. Well, it sounds like it was an amazing event.
Sounds like you had a great time, man, So we'll
get you guys out year.
Speaker 7 (09:11):
Absolutely is to have My goal is to have a
stand for LeVar and just as LeVar islands on one
of the holes.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
And by the way, I'll put this out if we
do it next year. I got Lee listed as a
minus one twenty to win the blue jacket.
Speaker 8 (09:29):
Like I I'll say that right now, I think you
could pull that.
Speaker 7 (09:32):
We haven't had too many first time attendees be winners,
but Lee to lap would definitely be up there.
Speaker 9 (09:37):
I would definitely having the most fun. So could you.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
I don't think you would.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
I mean, the only thing I can I'm concerned by
is your ability to compete with the rest of drinkers. Like,
I know you can throw them down, but you would
I Mean, it's a long day, dude, It is a
long day. We start off with a shot before the
thing even starts.
Speaker 9 (09:55):
We can't drink if you don't start in the morning.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
Lady, you gonna take this.
Speaker 9 (10:00):
Yeah, I'm very insulted.
Speaker 8 (10:03):
Respect all this time you put it insulted.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
I'm vary.
Speaker 9 (10:07):
I've never been more insulted.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
Also, we also have some people who could turn it
on like you can't, buddy. You know, we've got some
we have to meet Wagon. That guy he can have
a twenty beer Sunday and not even blink.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
I mean.
Speaker 9 (10:24):
Twenty what are we talking about.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
He's got the capacity to absorb it and it's like
it goes it's like a black hole goes in and
it's just that nothing ever happens.
Speaker 8 (10:36):
Yeah, but has he ever won as the Wagon ever won.
Speaker 10 (10:38):
The blue Jacket.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
No, in his younger years, he might have had a
shot a time or two. There's alway there's always stories
of like, yeah, there's always stories of different guys who've
like been up for it. But the closest two time
winner we would have had as actually a veteran named
Josh Josh Phoebus. Josh has won it one year. There's
probably like three years in there he could have won it.
(11:00):
Josh turns up as much as.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Anyone, So I mean It's got to be kind of
a big contrast to go from a guy wanting to
get his tooth out with a butter knife at a
drunken golf tournament to so, what are your thoughts on
the team this year, coach, and how do you think
they're gonna you know, how is it going to translate
into a new conference.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
It's kind of a different world going from that to the.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Used car salesman. With college coaches at a big ten
media days and salesman.
Speaker 8 (11:29):
It feels like there's a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
There's a lot of you hear coach speak and well
you know, I mean listen, like Ryan Day's talking about, well,
we know there's expectations. Well yeah, like you're at Ohio
State of courser's expectations. The good news is Harbus out
of the conference and your favorite to win it. But
then you know Oregon sitting there second.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Ohio State's going The West Coasters are like so interested
in Oregon.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I am as well.
Speaker 7 (11:52):
But I also it's kind of similar what I said
about the blue Jacket, Like a first time first year winner.
Everyone's high on organ because they've done a good job recruiting, developing.
If there's a team though that's gonna have the biggest hurdle.
It would be any of those West Coast teams. So
I think that's the one that I am most curious,
Not that I don't buy into the hype, because I
think they're a very good team, good roster, and on paper,
(12:16):
if you said, hey, they're a top four team, I'd say,
no doubt, Like Georgia, Ohio State, Oregon maybe their top
three team. But the question still comes down to how
are they going to match up? How are they schematically
going to match up with the other you know, coaches
and coaching staffs, ocdc's, you know, how are the players
going to be able to match up the battle in
(12:38):
the trenches. Everyone talks about how this team has been
built up like a like an SEC or a Big
ten team. As far as the offense of a defensive line, well,
we don't have to like speculate now, like now they're
in the Big Ten.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Now we get to see what that looks like.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
So that's the one that I know a lot of
people have talked about and they're excited about. I'm just
curious to see what it looks like. And I will
say this, I had a chance to talk to a
Mecca abuca Uh the outstanding wide receiver at Ohio State,
and I asked him about the pressure on Ryan Day,
and he said, we're, you know, very well aware of
(13:12):
you know, what's transpired the last few years, and and
they're excited about the challenge. You know, they kind of
have more of a positive spin out there like that
we're looking for this is a great opportunity to change
the perception of what's happened. And he came back, like
many of the seniors at Ohio States, someone to what
we saw from Michigan last year because there was that
finished business. You know, in Ohio State they get gold
(13:33):
pants for when you beat Michigan. And when you think
about someone like Marvin Harrison Junior, who was one of
the more decorative, almost outstanding players Ohio States had, didn't
leave with gold pants, and and that's a that's that's
a tough pill to swallow. And and Mecca talked about
that factoring into his decision to come back, even though
he could have went to the NFL last year.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
So there's awesome storyline.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
And gold pants are like literally like a charm, right
charm for people out there that may be thinking literally
gold gold pants as in like you know pants to
where there it's like a charm or something like that.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
It's made of gold. That's right, that's right, and they
and they get them.
Speaker 7 (14:13):
Obviously, I'm not sure that the whole history behind it
even be from clubs. I probably should know that, but
it is awards to those that win. When you don't,
you don't get them. And like I said, there's there's
a class right now that's that literally came back for
unfinished business, and I think you know it's it's it's
a good time to be able to come back and
try to accomplish that. Given how much Michigan lost not
(14:36):
only on their roster but also the coaching staff, the
transition that's shron Mor their head coach now has to deal.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
With Ohio State's got to go at Oregon at Pennon
State this year. Which one is most likely to get them?
Speaker 7 (14:48):
To me, it's penn State, man, I mean, I'm I'm optimistic.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
About penn State.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
I've I've talked to other folks LeVar that don't feel
as optimistic. I mean, I think you look at the
running backs with the quarterback the duoc I love Andy
Kyle Neck you the new offensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
He's creative.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
So it's the defense is gonna be the defense, like
the defense is always there.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
By bid So Jalen is a beast. He's a beast.
But I just I just need to see what we're
gonna do on offense. Like I'm I'm I'm high on
cap like I'm I'm definitely I'm I'm confident it.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
But I feel like Oregon is is.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I think they're gonna be super competitive, I really do,
and I heck, I think Washington is going to be interesting.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
You know.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I just think that it's gonna be a nice clashing
of of cultures and and I think it's gonna it's
gonna yield some really really entertaining, entertaining games. So but
I appreciate Penn State having that that thought process or
that that that nod, But I like us stay kind
(16:00):
of in the shadows. A lot of people don't really
know what we have. The biggest question is at receiver,
what are we going to do do there? But I
feel like, you know, we got some we got some
guys and you know, and the and the and the
wings that that can get it done. So well, see,
it's funny you say that that was the one position
(16:21):
group that came up last night that everyone's like, you know, hey,
why why haven't we been able to stretch the field
more big players?
Speaker 7 (16:26):
Well, well, no one scares down the field, So I
don't know. I mean, look, I think, you know, Julian
Fleming is there. I think can get that done. I
think there's a few other players too, you know, Kiden Sonders,
I think can get that done. There's a few guys
who can do that. It's just a matter now on
a new offense of like making it happen and done.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Well, I know we're going to make it happen here
on this show three hours, Can you tell.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
Us Jonas as the resident SC guy, can you tell
us about SC?
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (16:54):
Maybe hour four I'll break down.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Us our four, I'll talk about your USC.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
Oh, South Carolina. Yeah, I listen.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Uh, last year, a lot of people had optimism going
into last year, and it was just they got off
on a bad foot, lost in North Carolina and it
just went downhill quick. And then you know, tried to
turn my attentions towards Hawaii. That didn't look at either.
So I'm just saying I just want to enjoy the season.
They play now Hawaii at the like the track. Yeah, basically, yeah,
(17:28):
it's like somewhere off campus.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
You know who's the worst? Who is the worst home
field situation?
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Right, it's gotta be Hawaii outside of the fact that
it's you're playing in Hawaii.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, although if not, I mean Northwestern. How many games
are they playing at their at their eight thousand seat practices?
Speaker 7 (17:46):
Made one of them? They're playing a game at Wrigley. Well,
so that's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 8 (17:49):
Two of them.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
They're playing in Wrigley. They've got Ohio State and Illinois
at Wrigley coming up, and nobody, I mean that would
be That's just a ton of fun.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
You know too, I have got all about Northwestern. Might
have forgot.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
Think of that.
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Speaker 8 (19:28):
The fact that you were able to put that together
in real time. You're like, Lease, got a black.
Speaker 13 (19:33):
Mandiate on.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
My Buddet's on your lips? My buddet on your lips?
Speaker 4 (19:46):
H my gosh, hey Lee, did you feel like empowered?
Did you feel powerful with that black man band aid on?
That black person band aid on?
Speaker 11 (19:59):
Like?
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Did it make you feel strong? Like? What? What? What
would like?
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Did you feel a sense of pride when when that
band like you you see me? When Raina gave you
that that that band aid? Did you like feel like like, yeah,
you see me? You know who I am? Like I
felt aftured the essence of who I am.
Speaker 9 (20:16):
No, I just felt right at home, very natural. It
felt naturally, felt natural.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Did it did it blend in with with your skin? Like?
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Did you feel like it was blending like like this
really really fits me?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (20:29):
It felt it felt one with the spirit, you know
what I mean? Like that's what I felt?
Speaker 8 (20:33):
You felt like Lorain at that pool party?
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Like, did your did your vertical go up?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Like?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Did you feel like you were like super league at
that point?
Speaker 8 (20:40):
All of a sudden you condug a basketball? Oh, I
don't know what it is? My forty time drop three seconds.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Hey, did this Did this game get it better? Did
he did? He did?
Speaker 4 (21:03):
He shoot some lines at you, Loreena, and his game
was better, Like it seemed a little bit smoother.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
They had a little bit.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
More to it, like it was some girl.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
All I know is all I know is I walked
by the bathroom. But I could just hear lace. I
hear Li say, man, this water's cold, must be.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
Can I go on? Oh man, oh man.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Well that's good. I'm happy for you.
Speaker 14 (21:37):
Are you still wearing the band?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
That's a great question.
Speaker 11 (21:42):
Well, as you guys know, I don't usually put ointments
or band aids on anything.
Speaker 8 (21:46):
That's what.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
That's and has no problem having dinim on top of it.
Speaker 9 (21:55):
It's still scarred my knee from the rug bird.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
I thought you was gonna lose your leg. Man, I
didn't know what what direction that.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Was going, LeVar, Why did you get nauseous?
Speaker 8 (22:06):
They're thinking about that, what did you know?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Ointments? And they said his knee.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
It just makes you start thinking about how gross his
need looked.
Speaker 9 (22:17):
Yeahs.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Open wounds do not have like you know, like some
of them are tolerable, like you see some people with
like wounds like Lee's open wound. The last time that knee, Man,
that was just really a gross looking deal.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Man.
Speaker 8 (22:36):
This just really just like it gets me every time when.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
Your knee looked like it was a homelesstude.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
It's been outside and years, that's what. It didn't look
like it was gonna go well. Man, I'm telling you
was act like Mercer. It's like you was so relaxed
about it too.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
You know, it's all right, jeans on, Like the wound
is still open, Bro, Like what are you putting jeans.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
On it for?
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Like imagine?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Imagine really did end up getting mrsam playing football catching
a football radio row.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I mean, make for a hell of a story.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
But man, Bro, like you on you on crutches now,
like you use it like you're using a cart to
get around.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
All all the afflictions you could get in Vegas out
there for an entire week and Lee catches MRSA because
jeans were dirty.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Bro, His knee was like three different colors around that
he's talking about. It was fine, like one part of
it was green, another part of it was like yellow,
like eh, it just it just didn't look right, man.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
Just the fact that you look you get not looked.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Like the inside of a hard boiled egg that was
cut in the half. Like, that's what it is? That
a current photo.
Speaker 9 (24:02):
Of your That is I just took that photo.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Bro.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
It is almost the end of July, and your niece
still looks like that after falling in February.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
That scar is real.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
Ain't for you? Your genetics you need help. Wait a second,
your genetics need help. You need to put some stuff on.
Speaker 8 (24:23):
I think that might be getting worse. Like what you
what's going on here?
Speaker 9 (24:31):
I like to remember my battle scars, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 8 (24:33):
That's you're gonna remember that one when it puts.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
You stumbled over your own foot, Like, what do you mean?
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Battle scar?
Speaker 4 (24:40):
It's that looks still That was still one of the
most awkward tumbles I've seen.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Really do wish I could have seen it twinkled toes.
He'd be running on his toes, got one of the
funniest runs I've ever seen in.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
My entire life. But that looks like a U f
O on your knee like that.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
It looks like an unidentified flying object with power running
around it, like circling around it. That does not look good, bro.
That is one of the most hideous scars. I've ever
seen in my entire life. Man Like, it just looks
like it's still active underneath. It decided to heal, like superficially,
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but under the surface, it's really still bad.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I'm just telling you, man, Dang, I feel for you. Man,
you know I feel for you.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
All right.
Speaker 8 (25:35):
I can't believe that's still going on. I thought it
was healed. It got worse, all right.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Well then, I mean, you know, I don't know if
you're interested, but if you do, need to cover that up.
There are some black band aids in the medicine cabinet still,
so that there's a possibility, all right. Well, it's everybody's team,
favorite team to talk about, especially on this show, especially
you guys, the New York Jets. Not Aaron Rodgers' story,
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a non Aaron Rodgers story involving the New York Jets.
It's Asan Reddick, who they acquired this offseason from the Eagles,
and apparently he's not showing up to camp. And I
guess this was not the plan, or at least not
the discussion that they had that according to S and
Y reporter Connor Hughes, who broke it all down.
Speaker 15 (26:25):
Before the Jets acquired Reddick in a trade from the
Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 13 (26:28):
They offered him an extension.
Speaker 15 (26:29):
It wasn't going to be anything crazy, but it would
have given him a raise on the fourteen point five
unguaranteed million he is set to make this year.
Speaker 13 (26:37):
Reddick said no. The Jets said, that is fine.
Speaker 15 (26:39):
We can discuss a potential adjustment to your current deal,
basically taking some of that unguaranteed money and converting it
to guaranteed salary, maybe adding some incentives, but any kind
of major lucrative extension, we're not going to talk about
that until you are here and you perform on.
Speaker 13 (26:53):
The field for us. Reddick, he was on board with that.
Speaker 15 (26:56):
He told the team and members of the team he
was going to be here for the off season program,
going to be here for mini camp, and was going
to be here for training camp earn.
Speaker 13 (27:03):
That mega money extension.
Speaker 15 (27:05):
At some point between those discussions that he had with
the Jets during his physical and now something changed because Reddick,
he did not show up for the offseason voluntary program,
he was not here for mandatory.
Speaker 13 (27:14):
Mini camp, and now it's training camp begins.
Speaker 15 (27:16):
He is not here. In the Jets, they're not sure
when he plans on showing up.
Speaker 14 (27:19):
Oops, yeah, let me let me translate for you guys.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
Okay, Hassan Reddick did exactly what he should do in
this case, because how many times have we heard teams
say they're going to offer this or do this and
do that and then they don't.
Speaker 14 (27:34):
So this is all part of the tactic.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
He probably knew the Eagles weren't going to pay him
what he wanted to be paid on an extension. He
got the Jets to trade for him, told him, yeah,
I'll show up for everything. I'll be a part of
all of it, and they were dumb enough to not
keep long term extension done before he got there.
Speaker 14 (27:51):
That is completely on the Jets. This is entirely mismanaged.
Speaker 7 (27:55):
If you're a Jets fan and you want to be
Matta Hassan Reddick, you shouldn't be because on the flip
side of this is always the conversation where a player
all right, gets taken advantage of by an organization. This
is one where the player is finally taking advantage of
the organization. It's very rare this happens, and obviously the
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organization looks terrible for trading for a guy you knew
needed extended. I mean, you even made the offer, and
just because he said no, or however the conversation went,
it clearly wasn't good enough. And so this was always
a potential. This is always a possibility. And once he
obviously got traded there, now he's got all the leverage,
because what are they gonna do.
Speaker 14 (28:37):
If he doesn't come out there on the field of
this window of time.
Speaker 7 (28:39):
You have with Aaron Rodgers, you look like a clown
for not being figuring out a way of extending him
and given him what he wants.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Well, I'll just I'll just say this, when when you
run into a situation like this and you get this
far down the road of not hand, it could go
one or two ways, right, it could work itself out,
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and it's a distant memory to everyone that there was
you know, there was some confusion at some point, or.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
It could play out.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
And if the New York Jets don't don't show that
they can, you know, get to the quarterback or have
somebody that's effective off of the edge whatever it is
that they were going to get from the services of
Hassan Reddick, it's going to come back on them as
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to why didn't they handle it differently, which y'all know
where I'm going with this. Then now becomes if they're
not doing what they're supposed to do as a team.
Now it opens up the conversation of why do the
New York Jets not do what it is that they
need to do to make sure that they're putting the
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team in the best position to win games. Then it
comes back to how do you handle this situation where
your star football player, your franchise quarterback that you've got
only gotten four plays from, not be at a practice
that was mandatory, but he was unexcused every single thing,
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it starts to be brought up, and it starts to
be talked about, and it starts to be scrutinized because
you're always looking for why it's going wrong for this
team that's in a major Are you.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
Saying they're not buttoned up there in New York with
the Jets.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
I'm just saying that's how the media works, and I
think that type of market.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
I think LeVar is.
Speaker 14 (30:45):
Starting to convince me maybe it's not gonna go off.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I think he might be right.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
There.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
The more this goes on and the more I hear
LeVar talk about, I'm like, oh man, he's gonna be right,
be right.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
I saw somebody somebody yesterday made the tell me if
you guys buy this. Somebody yesterday made the point that
Joe Douglas is in a tough spot because he doesn't
want to set a precedent that a player can pull this,
and that he just gets rewarded with more money, and
that there's other players who are there in similar situations
than which. I don't know if there's anything to that,
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but it does feel like they kind of butchered this
thing from the jump and we're kind of sitting around
waiting and see how it unfolds.
Speaker 7 (31:28):
Precedent, Like you're setting the precedent wrong in either way.
Either you should have traded for him correct when he
turned down the offer that you made for him for
an extension, knowing he'd won an extension. I mean, was
it a secret when they traded for him. I'm sure
they were well aware that based on his sack production
in the last four years. They probably looked at him
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and said, yeah, like, this is going to be a
guy that we want to be here for the next
you know, two, three, four years, whatever it is, we
need to extend them to make sure he's happy, otherwise we.
Speaker 14 (31:57):
Should do this trade.
Speaker 7 (31:58):
How that conversation didn't happen, How that you know the
deal didn't get done before they traded is beyond me.
I just who cares about a precedent like you've already
set the bad precedent of being willing to trade for
a player that you might not extend, and now he's
gonna be discrudgled. I mean, it'll come down to the
end of if he's going to show up or not,
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because if he doesn't show up, he's gonna be subject
to fines.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
And you're gonna be finding a guy who.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
You brought into being an edge rusher for you at
a need and the guy hasn't even walked in the
front door because you got off to a bad start.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
I mean, it's just the whole thing.
Speaker 7 (32:36):
It just exemplifies why I feel like the Jets can't
just figure this out and then get over the hump
to focus on football. There's always some sort of off
season drama. And to Lvar's point, he said this for
a while now, if I'm a Jets fan, I would
start to be really frustrated with the fact that we've
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gotten the quarterback we want.
Speaker 14 (32:57):
But now he gets hurt.
Speaker 7 (32:58):
Well, now he's back healthy, and the issues whatever happens
with that. We've we've built around the quarterback spot. The
old line is better, the wide receiver course better, all
these things, and that they still can't seem to figure
it out.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
It's someone like Lebar you obviously a great defender, Like
if you were in this similar situation, wouldn't you appreciate
I mean, at least they could do is like call
you be a radio or something, right, you know, like
use a radio to get in touch with you if
they wanted to get this deal done.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Man, if that's yeah, I mean, listen when you're looking
at it from them. Well, the situation that he would
be talking about, Q is that of well using that
that nice little radio system that we always talk about
us And yeah, that's right. Looks he's talking about.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
You know what, Q.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
He's talking about how we could do that push the
talk walkie talkie offering national LTE coverage.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
If we need to get in contact with one another,
we don't need a subscription or a monthly feel to
all of that. We just need to be business owners
that could keep it in touch with up to two
hundred staff at one time. Can you imagine that that's
a whole lot of people to keep in contact with
the hit Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Right?
Speaker 4 (34:12):
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so y'all could do do do him and let them
know it's okay to come to training camp and it's
okay for y'all to actually have a team that has
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Speaker 7 (35:01):
Actually I actually think they need a full time playing
a subscription with Rapper. It sounds like they're gonna be
an emergency situations need that radio more often.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Damn they needed that rapid radios when I guess, uh,
we couldn't figure out that Aaron Rodgers was in Egypt. Hey,
Aaron Rodgers, what should we say about where you at
right now?
Speaker 5 (35:25):
Where you is player?
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Use that l T.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Take it over.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
You need rapid radio.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
You need rapid radio for when this knee ends up
going gang green on you or whatever.
Speaker 9 (35:41):
Rapid radio relief.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Bro need some help.
Speaker 10 (35:46):
Do you remember when we were filling in on Dan
Patrick and Joel for some reason, nobody called for it.
Played the most grotesque part, drop.
Speaker 12 (36:00):
Lavarc so hard just says you better check your pants
play off.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
Play off.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
That was one of the wet fart dips I ever
heard him that it was bad, how it was so good,
It was so good, it was long, It was dang.
That was the funniest part, dropping.
Speaker 16 (36:25):
Your pants play Uh, it came out of nowhere, the
most random fart noise that that we've heard.
Speaker 8 (36:37):
It was so uncalled for, it is it.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Was comfortably long.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
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Speaker 2 (36:53):
It is a Wednesday, which means we got traditions on
this show to keep, and one of those is the
Old pe Petros Papadakis. He is the co host of
the Petros and Money Show, which you can hear on
the Blowtorch and five to seventy LA Sports Fox College
Football Analyst, and you can find him on x at
the Old p Petros. What's happening?
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Good morning, Good morning to everybody. Hello, Hello to you.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Hello.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
Are you been trying to get a hold of you? LeVar?
Speaker 3 (37:20):
What do you mean?
Speaker 5 (37:21):
My people have been trying to get a hold of you.
Speaker 17 (37:23):
Who Tim Cats, my producer, We are trying to book
you for a show a week from Friday. Come on,
let's do it at the camp Site Brewing Company in Covina, California.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
What day.
Speaker 17 (37:37):
Let's do it Friday, a week from Friday.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Three and a half hour window for you to arrive.
Think I'm out of town all right, Damn, we're moving on.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Next next next Friday.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
That would be a week from Friday.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
A week from this Friday coming. Yeah, I'm gonna be
out of town.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
I wish I could get an invite to one of
these PMS remos.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Shut up, you've been to like five. Damn.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Yeah, I wish it came. I'm being state college.
Speaker 17 (38:07):
I figured it's one or the other for you. Yes,
all right, what do you guys want to talk about? Hey,
I'm here, I'm at your disposal.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
So we wanted to come. Hang.
Speaker 8 (38:17):
I'm just curious.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
We're talking about Big Ten media days and you're seeing
Oregon pull up. You know they've got a giant rubber
ducky on on the lake out there or whatever.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
In Indian Yeah.
Speaker 17 (38:28):
Well I was around when they did the whole Joey
Harrington billboard, and they did the they had all the
receivers on the Figaroa Hotel and they had their cornerbacks
on the four oh five remember that. And they did
the Times Square kid, Yeah, this isn't new. And they
tried to get bow Nicks the Heisman last year. Remember
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they had the big bow Nicks billboard. It's Phil Knight
and he wants it.
Speaker 8 (38:57):
Well it does it?
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Like just from a standpoint of those are all Pac
twelve teams. And I know we've talked about this at
length before, but the fact that it's finally here and
you're seeing all of them kind of incorporated into the
Big Ten now they're at Big Ten media days.
Speaker 17 (39:14):
Scattered like the Tower of Babbel, speaking languages that nobody understands.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Like, have you gotten used to that yet? Or is
it still seem a little bit surreal that that's what
this is coming.
Speaker 17 (39:23):
No, I don't think anybody's used to it, and I
don't think anybody's going to be used to it until
much later, if ever, if we even have it long
enough to be used to it.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
I mean, how used to are.
Speaker 17 (39:35):
You going to get to the ACC when it's on
the dizzy edge of crumbling quite soon? And then you
have the situation with all these teams in the Big
Ten and the arms race between the SEC and the
Big Ten, which is Disney and Fox. I'm not really
sure what there is to get used to. I mean,
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college football has always been a changing, evolving, ever hypocritical entity, but.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
This is a whole new era.
Speaker 17 (40:06):
And I imagine that once we get down to like
playing football games and throwing and catching the ball and
traveling around the country and putting the stuff on air,
that we'll get a better idea of how interested people
are in it. I would imagine they're very interested, despite
certain changes here and there. But I don't know if
there's ever going to be any getting used to it,
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because it's one thing to add Utah and Colorado to
the Pac twelve and kind of simmer in it for
a few years before it feels normal. But this is
a totally this is a totally different thing, and I
don't think anybody knows exactly what it's going to be
like other than the fact that we're going to be
playing football like we always do. And that's really the
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only thing that's normal about the football season is the
fact that we're going to play football, because everything else
is totally different.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
Yeah, and you know today, Petro's I get the chance
to talk to some of those West Coast teams. We
heard you and I heard Lincoln Riley speak at our
summinar last week. First thing I want to ask is
just your overall thoughts of SC going into the season
and maybe the optimism or is this team maybe in
a better place where you feel like Lincoln Riley would
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want to have him at this point? And then the
other thing is just talking about Ucla.
Speaker 14 (41:21):
I kind of I thought that.
Speaker 7 (41:22):
I forgot, but when it happened, when Chip Kelly decided
to leave Ucla to be a coordinator.
Speaker 14 (41:29):
It still blew my mind that it wasn't.
Speaker 6 (41:32):
Like he was going to the NFL.
Speaker 7 (41:33):
He went to another another college team. Like I'm just
kind of curious about like what that maybe says about UCLA,
maybe Chip Kelly. But then also just how you kind
of see USC heading into this season.
Speaker 5 (41:47):
Well, let's start with USC.
Speaker 17 (41:48):
We heard Lincoln Riley talking, and you know, it's that
it's very difficult when any kind of public press conference,
even the Fox seminar, unless but he's had a couple drinks,
you really just get the platitudes. There's nothing in there
that really makes you feel like you're getting something special,
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like when you're at the bar and somebody's really telling
you what's going on, or you have a private meeting
with somebody.
Speaker 5 (42:16):
It's just we're going to do this, we like this, we.
Speaker 17 (42:19):
Like where we're at, blah blah blah, these challenges, we
embrace these challenges, blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah.
But the truth is us he is going to be
very different, just in the fact that they made a
lot of different hires on their defensive staff, and that
is something Lincoln Riley talked about and I'm interested to
see what that's like. The other thing you talked about,
which I thought was interesting, Remember Brady was the play
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calling for Caleb Williams and how it really didn't suit
him as a play caller because the guy was such
a freelancer. And you know Lincoln Riley and the way
he calls plays. I remember how brilliant he was with
Baker Mayfield, you know, moving him half rolls, stopping throwing
back across the field, you know, different stuff like that.
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And they were able to do it because they had
the two beautiful running backs mixing and p Ryan all
that stuff.
Speaker 5 (43:09):
But I just don't know what SC is going to
be like. I think a successful season's like eight or
nine wins.
Speaker 17 (43:17):
Beyond that, it'll probably be a situation where Lincoln Riley
finds his way to be a coordinator or something in
the NFL, because this is not the athletic director that
hired him. But it's also a ninety million dollar paycheck
that they paid just to get rid of everybody and
bring him and his staff in half of which they
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fired now after a very disappointing second season. So there's
almost USC is like a microcosm of college football. In general,
a lot of unknowns, more questions and answers.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
Right now, as far as you.
Speaker 17 (43:52):
See LA goes, people talk about chip Kelly and oh,
chip Kelly left, and it says everything about modern college football.
And yeah, you can make that example if you want
to make that an example, if you want to sit
there and talk about how no one wants to be
a head coach anymore because it sucks, and look at
what chip Kelly happened. Yes, but you really have to
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understand the situation individually. In every situation individually, chip Kelly
and his athletic director were not getting along. They did
not support each other. You could say that's on Martin Jarmon,
you could say it's on chip Kelly. Either way, their
relationship had deteriorated to the point where chip Kelly didn't
want to coach there anymore. He wasn't getting the recruiting
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support he felt like he needed. Now that exists at UCLA.
Just look at all the transfers and the nil that
mc cronin just bought in. But UCLA is an open
wallet until it's closed.
Speaker 5 (44:48):
And I think Martin Jarman did some things.
Speaker 17 (44:50):
The ad at UCLA as far as being ambitious and
looking for other jobs. That turned people off at that university,
and they closed the w wallet to him, and they
don't They're not going to help him, which is why
he ended up hiring Deshaun Foster instead of making another
big giant swing like they did with chip Kelly. They're
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not going to let him hire another chip Kelly because
he ruined that relationship. So Deshaun's get a chance, and
they brought in the enemy, and that's also very confusing.
I don't know what that's going to be like. I
hope that they have some success. They're going to be motivated,
and the players really love DeShawn, But what does that
look like? You know, what does it look like when
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you make the running back coach the head coach, right,
and then he hires another running back to be the coordinator.
They're going to run Q eight on every third and eight.
So I don't know what that's going to be like.
But that's a situation where I don't think chip Kelly
would have left just any head coaching job. I think
he was eternally disappointed at the support he got at UCLA,
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which is a difficult place to work. You need two
signatures just to get a new sharpener because you work
for the state of California and it's there's a lot
of red tape and a lot of bureaucracy. So I
don't think, you know, it's not just like Bill Belichick
doesn't want to coach the Patriots anymore.
Speaker 5 (46:10):
You know, it's not.
Speaker 17 (46:11):
There's a lot that goes into what happened at UCLA
and why. But if you want to say, hey, Chip
Kelly left because he didn't want to be a head
coach anymore, yeah, that's the truth. But it was probably
more about UCLA than it was about anything else.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
Petrocks, can I hit you with this one?
Speaker 4 (46:33):
Obviously, with the realignments and these these PAC twelve schools
going into the Big ten, there's gotta be for And
when I.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
Say, you know, take this gently because it's not a
slight or anything.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
But people like you who have have been a part
of the PAC twelve, is that group looking for this
year to be a win by the success of former
PAC twelve teams. I mean, you guys, clearly I would
assume are going to take pride in the fact that
if these schools newly into the pack excuse me, into
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Big ten, or even in the Big twelve do well
this year. Is that a win to still brag about
the PAC twelve or is it just we accept the
fact that this is not the PAC twelve anymore. But
it's nice that they're having wins or success in these
different conferences.
Speaker 17 (47:28):
I think you'll get some of that, and you'll get
people that follow. And I think you probably had that
thirty years ago or whatever with the Southwest Conference and
people that followed Arkansas and Texas because it was regional
even though they weren't in the same conference anymore. And
now once again, of course they are. So just wait
around and things will come back around. I don't know
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if West Coast football in the college world is ever
going to come back around like we had it. We
had a great thing for those of us on the
West Coast. We had travel partners, it all worked regionally
and financially.
Speaker 5 (48:00):
It worked.
Speaker 17 (48:01):
But they did not have the foresight like other places
did to keep it going, and they failed the region.
The presidents failed the region, Larry Scott, George Klifkov, everybody
involved failed the entire region.
Speaker 5 (48:14):
And now we have what we have.
Speaker 17 (48:15):
I do think that people will follow those teams just
like I will. I'll I'll always I don't know what
it is. Football is about familiarity. If you're not familiar
with a team, it's awful hard just to turn on
maction and get into it, unless you're like those guys
on Twitter, the Sikos, you know what I mean, like
(48:38):
Jonas and Q and But I like that, you know,
like I like college football in that way.
Speaker 8 (48:43):
I mean bowling Green on a Tuesday in October.
Speaker 7 (48:45):
I like, I love football on a Tuesday. You can't
convince me otherwise, right.
Speaker 17 (48:49):
But what I'm saying is like you have to make
yourself familiar with it, and the more familiar you get
with those teams, Like I'll give you an example. Uh,
what's the kid's name? He's the bailor quarterback now, is it?
Ta Kwan Finn? He was at Toledo? Right, So, like
three years ago I did a Toledo game when Da
Kwan Finn.
Speaker 5 (49:10):
Was the quarterback, and he was impressive.
Speaker 17 (49:14):
He ran around, he showed heart, he got banged up,
he came back, he fought hard.
Speaker 5 (49:19):
His team ended up losing the game, but I was like,
I really like this quarterback.
Speaker 17 (49:23):
So whenever Toledo shows up and mac shin or something
like that I watched Toledo. What is the good name
of the coach? Candle supposed to be a really good guy,
so you just kind of get interested in it. And
then now he's at Baylor, so we will see what
he does with Dave Randa.
Speaker 5 (49:40):
So that's the way I follow football.
Speaker 17 (49:42):
Just if familiarity breeds entertainment, I suppose for me.
Speaker 5 (49:47):
So yes, the.
Speaker 17 (49:48):
Answer that the long answer to a question levars. Yes,
I will follow all those teams and I will hope
for their success because of a West Coast kind of bias,
I guess that I have don't know how long cuts
can I cut in before Jonas only to ask this question,
if it works out where Oregon happens to be playing
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against Ohio State in the playoff, is it possible that
I can come watch that game with.
Speaker 5 (50:13):
You where wherever you are?
Speaker 14 (50:18):
My house, sure, your house, a bar, wherever.
Speaker 5 (50:24):
I just I don't root that hard like you watch
football with that. I don't go that's a lie.
Speaker 6 (50:30):
That is a lie.
Speaker 5 (50:30):
Oh that was just fun.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
I just want to win.
Speaker 17 (50:36):
One day, I was all geeked up about the college
football playoff, but that was when Jameis Winston threw the
ball behind his head at the road.
Speaker 7 (50:44):
It's not that No, Oregon won that game. I'm talking
about the national championship game in Ohio State. Pleo Orger,
we watched that together, your disappointment for the entire West
Coast and the many things that were uttered that night.
Speaker 17 (50:54):
Well to block the three technique. It happened against Auburn too.
What was that guy?
Speaker 3 (51:01):
The truth is coming out.
Speaker 5 (51:02):
What was that three tech pea? No, he was the
Auburn guy.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
Yeah, Jack Brown.
Speaker 17 (51:09):
No, they won the championship that year when they beat
Oregon in Arizona. But you know, there is something to
be said for that. I mean, I think that was
the most watched BCS championship ever and it was Auburn
versus Oregon.
Speaker 5 (51:25):
Now, if.
Speaker 17 (51:27):
In Glendale, if you've ever been to Auburn, and I have,
there is nothing at Auburn.
Speaker 5 (51:34):
I mean it is all bricks. They have Tumor's Corner.
Speaker 17 (51:37):
Not that there's nothing, but it's not a big city
and it's not and yeah they have fans, but they're
not the biggest team in the state.
Speaker 5 (51:46):
And then you go to Oregon.
Speaker 17 (51:48):
I mean, if any of you, we've all been to Eugene,
well you're not missing that much, you know, that's kind
of the thing. No, No, I'll remember he took over
the game, for God's sakes, and he was an All
American player. It was their tackle and they didn't block him.
(52:10):
He blew up their mesh every single time. They couldn't
run their their stupid zone read. But anyway, Eugene is
not a big place. I mean, yeah, they have support
where in the state of Oregon. Sure, they have support
from Phil Knight. And that's why they're an international brand
because of all the stuff that you see going on
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all over the place with their advertising and their marketing
and things of that nature. What I'm saying is what
was interesting about that game. It was West versus East.
There was something about it there. The whole nation was involved,
which is not what you get when Alabama plays a
LSU and the BCS title game, which I think was
(52:54):
the least watched BCS title game of all times. So
there is something to be said for that, Brady. And yes,
I'll watch any game with you, but I might not
be able to root as hard or recreate my emotions
from uh ten years ago.
Speaker 7 (53:08):
You just felt like it was an indication of how
people out east would feel about the people on the
West coast, you know.
Speaker 17 (53:15):
Well, yeah, well, when you don't block the free technique,
what do you expect?
Speaker 6 (53:18):
You know?
Speaker 17 (53:19):
And that's what to be honest, that's what was beautiful
about USC.
Speaker 8 (53:22):
Petri d Ford, No.
Speaker 5 (53:28):
I forget it, you guys. It can't be that hard.
Forget it.
Speaker 14 (53:31):
So I know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (53:33):
Back though, was this the one they lost to Florida State?
Speaker 3 (53:39):
That's the name.
Speaker 13 (53:40):
Didn't even look that up, Nick fairly.
Speaker 5 (53:44):
All I'm saying is this.
Speaker 17 (53:46):
What was beautiful about USC for many years was that,
and I'm talking about back.
Speaker 5 (53:51):
To the sixties.
Speaker 17 (53:53):
USC could recruit and develop offensive line and that's that's
what made them great and able to compete with the Alabama's,
the Ohio states and able to dominate you know, Oklahoma's
of the world and stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (54:10):
That's why USC is a great West Coast power.
Speaker 17 (54:12):
Now Washington was able to put together a beautiful offensive
line and make it work and play a really great
brand of football for a very short time under Klin
de Boor and now he's moved on. Oregon is not
like they used to be in those days. They're much
different upfront, and they are formidable on that side. I
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don't think you're going to see the same kind of
you know, Crysta Ball kind of started that development upfront
for them and it is continued into this era and
they're good up there, So it's not the same. They
don't have the same problems that they did in the past.
But sustainability wise, you know, who can really create a
great front like Michigan did last year that made them
(54:56):
so good and all those guys weren't five star recruits,
they were just a develop personnel group.
Speaker 3 (55:02):
Uh.
Speaker 17 (55:02):
Who has the ability to do that on the West
Coast now? Is who's going to be able to compete
and make somebody like me proud of my sad, down
trodden politically backwards area.
Speaker 8 (55:14):
We love you.
Speaker 2 (55:16):
Get him on Twitter at the old p Petros Papa Vegas,
the co host of The Petros and Money Show, Fox
College Football analysts.
Speaker 8 (55:23):
Let's do it again next week, Petros was beautiful.
Speaker 17 (55:26):
I think I'm coming into to do what like, aren't
you going You're taking all kinds of vacations, Jonas, I
don't know what you're dealing is like going through a
midlife crisis.
Speaker 3 (55:36):
That's serious. Petro.
Speaker 4 (55:39):
You used to never take time off that's that new money,
Q like y'all got to pay attention.
Speaker 8 (55:44):
But got stuff we're figuring out.
Speaker 4 (55:47):
That's can you get Jonas a new truck?
Speaker 3 (55:50):
He needs a new trunk? Think Petros is there?
Speaker 5 (55:52):
Yes, I'm here, he's there.
Speaker 3 (55:53):
Okay, nice?
Speaker 17 (55:54):
Yeah, now they like to turn me down now because yeah,
I thought I heard you go there, which is.
Speaker 3 (55:58):
Not cool, by the way, cool not cool.
Speaker 5 (56:01):
No, nothing's worse than.
Speaker 8 (56:04):
Oh what is worse than one?
Speaker 5 (56:07):
Okay, what happened?
Speaker 3 (56:10):
Did y'all just do that to Petro?
Speaker 17 (56:13):
We're gonna have a serious there is.
Speaker 5 (56:18):
That is not that I don't know how long you
worked in radio. It is this your first baseball game?
Speaker 3 (56:24):
All right?
Speaker 2 (56:24):
Well you know they'll be sorting that out while we
take a break here.
Speaker 5 (56:28):
We love you.
Speaker 8 (56:30):
We'll talk soon. There is Oh boy, that's that's gonna
cause him from
It's the best of two pros and a couple with
Lamar Rady Win and Jonas Knots on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell we feel on a Wednesday morning?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
How did it go?
Speaker 4 (00:19):
I feel ready to boots on the ground, baby, tell.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Us all about it? How like? What was the high lights?
Were there any low lights?
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Are we talking about the charity event or the big
Tidia is? What were you doing? What'd you do? I
thought you were at your event both right now?
Speaker 5 (00:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Right?
Speaker 6 (00:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I thought, okay, I thought you were doing your.
Speaker 6 (00:39):
I was with some Penn Staters last night, by the way.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah we are bag to.
Speaker 6 (00:45):
Coach James Franklin later on today.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
So nice.
Speaker 6 (00:49):
A lot of Penn Stators though, a lot of Penn
Stators are in.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I mean, you felt you felt at home, You felt comfortable,
like we we love you.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
You know, you're you're one of our guys.
Speaker 7 (00:59):
Yeah sure, I mean we're over here just you know,
trying to try, just trying to get to the season.
You know, a lot of talk, a lot of gabbing,
a lot of dinners, you know that sort of thing.
I would not say which Southern Cal alumni probably is
not feeling.
Speaker 6 (01:13):
Too good right now. I'll wake up this morning.
Speaker 7 (01:15):
But dang is Matt probably probably not what you think though, not.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
What you think? Okay, Well, I mean I'm not even
going to ask. It feels like I'm not even going
to ask.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
So what is the what's the the big conversation on
the ground there, Like what the hell is Oregon doing here?
Like why do they have a duckboat in the in
the water in Indianapolis? Why is why is that happening?
What's a big conversation there? Big ten media days?
Speaker 7 (01:45):
Well, I think everyone is curious where it's all going,
you know, so expansion conversations always get brought up, which
at the moment, I don't believe there's gonna be any
you know, thoughts or conversations of further expansion. So that's
one thing. The next thing is is you know, the
revenue share, how's it going to work?
Speaker 6 (02:03):
You know?
Speaker 7 (02:03):
The SEC when they came out at their conference media days,
had a I guess, a much more detailed planner idea
of what they're looking at doing as far as how
you know, each team's going to share the revenue they're
receiving with their student athletes and specifically with football. So
I think there's some thought to you know, look at
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the Big Ten and how they're going to do that
as well. So there's it's a lot of excitement with
the new teams coming in. There's still a lot of
questions right now in college football, and that's okay, you
know this, this whole thing is still coming together. But
I do think at the end of the day, more
teams that end up joining these bigger conferences, it does
lead to better matchups.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
Throughout the course of the year.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
I mean, people's regular season schedule will be daunting, which
may be tough for the teams, but you know, it's
fun for us in the outside.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
M Now, I would like to know about your charity event.
As you know, to me, it's one of the most
important deals is when we're supporting our troops.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
So what what how did that go? Man?
Speaker 6 (03:07):
It was awesome. It was awesome.
Speaker 7 (03:08):
We uh we we raised over one hundred and seventy
five thousand. We've got We've got uh.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
We had some cool stuff this year, have some cool stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
We had.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
We had a drone drop. We had uh. We actually
had a guy. We had a guy go out and.
Speaker 7 (03:23):
Uh basically heckle people on one of the greens. So
we paid him to and they had to you know,
they had to check off on m be okay with it.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
But we paid a guy.
Speaker 7 (03:32):
Essentially he's he's a comedian to absolutely get after him
on the green. I mean from the time they walk
up to the time the bakers in the hole. So uh,
that was a lot of fun. That was when that
stood out. But no, it was a great time. We
uh we had a little rain rain, ended up pushing
through after at the beginning, and end up be in
a beautiful day.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
So it all worked out for a great cause.
Speaker 7 (03:54):
One hundred and seventy five thousand for for veterans out
there with the Third Gold Foundation.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
So it's cool who on the blue jacket.
Speaker 7 (04:01):
Year Brent Racer won the Blue jacket, there was there
was one guy who probably could have won it. He
was absolutely annihilated. He might be just he might be
just waking up today. He might be just waking up.
He played the entire BACKNN with his shirt off, and
(04:23):
I remember looking at him and it was one of
those deals where he was swaying and he was his
eyes were open, but he wasn't really there. And I
kind of looked as I was announcing, thinking I really
should pick this guy, but he has been the tournament
that many years and last year it was kind of
similar to me had another guy win it where he
went after pretty hard. I think he's got it in
(04:45):
him to do something we've never seen before. So I'm
hoping this guy comes back and wins it year fifteen.
That's gonna be my hope because he he's, like I said,
he might be waking.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Up today from from Monday taking a bit of.
Speaker 8 (04:59):
A nast are the like.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
In order to qualify for the blue jacket, you have
to be annihilated and then.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
Who we We would phrase it as it looks like
the person that's having the best time out there.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
So we had people go off the diving board this year.
Have just go over to the local pole.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
Well, everyone else is swimming, enjoy themselves and go off
the diving board. We've had people put golf carts and ponds.
We had people jumping ponds. It all depends. At this point,
we're looking for creativity, so yeah, we'll see what happened.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Wasn't that aj that did the golf cart in the
pond allegedly? Yeah, I mean that's well, I mean, look,
you know I've heard different reports on that. So you know,
I'm not going to say whether it was him or
the meat Wagon or whether or not.
Speaker 8 (05:45):
You know, if somebody went.
Speaker 7 (05:46):
Down, it wasn't. It wasn't the beat wagon. We actually
we had one guy. He should have won it. I
remind him every year he should have won it.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
But he was lobbying to basically pull a tooth, and
it was it was trying to figure out if that
would win him the blue jacket, because because one of
the guys he was playing with has like a tooth
that's bad, and he was trying to figure out if
he could pull this tooth or some way like pull
or cut it out with a butter knife. When he
bele win the blue jacket, I said, if that person
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lets me do that and you successfully are able to
remove this tooth, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Wait a second, is this like the same jacket passed
around every year? Is it a different one every single year?
Speaker 7 (06:30):
Like the masters, so they get eventually their own that
fits them. But it's the same exact, exact jacket that
is as cheap as you could find of a Royal
Blue jacket. That it's it's made in China. It's not
very well man somehow would still actually stay together. At
this point, we've got a little ribbon on it that
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for it that may or may not look eerily similar
to the blue ribbon label, so don't tell PABs. But yeah,
that's essentially what gets ordered sent out. But uh yeah,
But anyway, this guy, like about ten years ago we
had it. He couldn't. He didn't even finish the round.
I mean, that's how like banked up he got. And
we were we were calling his wife to bring him
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back to accept the blue jackets. She was so she
would she would not come back and and accept it
on his behalf. And unfortunately that that relationship did not
end up well oh no, not together anymore?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Oh no? Oh?
Speaker 8 (07:29):
Was that the reason was that the start.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
Of I think it added up to it. But you
know that we're either here nor I mean, it was
not like this.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
You know, if you're willing to go butter knife to
get a tooth out just to win a ten dollars jacket,
I mean, that's.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
That's really different, dude.
Speaker 8 (07:45):
Yeah, that's really I'm.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
Pretty sure it's like sixty bucks if if we're being honest,
but I digress.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Yeah, but but it's not it's not what it costs
to get it or what to make it.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
It's it's the value connected to it.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
It's like a prize at a carnival, right, I mean, you
can buy that stuffed animal anywhere for fifteen cents, but
he got a value shot in.
Speaker 8 (08:05):
Order to do it.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
It's the value, you know, It's it's the experience that's
connected to it. It's the people that's connected to it.
It's it's there's more value to it than what it costs.
So I can't I can understand where the guy from now,
even though it was a very extreme thing that he
was willing.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
To do or what he went.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
I mean, well, I mean it's extreme for him to
do it, But what about the guy who's tooth he's
just taken?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Well, maybe I put them both together, you know, maybe
maybe I was thinking about the tooth.
Speaker 7 (08:35):
I should I should really award it to the guy
who's getting the tooth take it out, not actually the
guy who wants to cut it out with a butter knife.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
Dang, we actually had to talk about out.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Of doing that. I was like, they were going to
do it with a butter knife.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
He was pretty annihilated, like he at this moment the
one guy who had the bad tooth was like, no,
it's really hurt. It's Another guy was like, yeah, I
could take that out. He was very confident.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I was like, I was like, do you need some well,
like I was very confident.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Yeah. Well, it sounds like it was an amazing event.
Sounds like you had a great time, man, So we'll
get you guys out year.
Speaker 7 (09:11):
Absolutely is to have My goal is to have a
stand for LeVar and just as LeVar islands on one
of the holes.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
And by the way, I'll put this out if we
do it next year. I got Lee listed as a
minus one twenty to win the blue jacket.
Speaker 8 (09:29):
Like I I'll say that right now, I think you
could pull that.
Speaker 7 (09:32):
We haven't had too many first time attendees be winners,
but Lee to lap would definitely be up there.
Speaker 9 (09:37):
I would definitely having the most fun. So could you.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
I don't think you would.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
I mean, the only thing I can I'm concerned by
is your ability to compete with the rest of drinkers. Like,
I know you can throw them down, but you would
I Mean, it's a long day, dude, It is a
long day. We start off with a shot before the
thing even starts.
Speaker 9 (09:55):
We can't drink if you don't start in the morning.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
Lady, you gonna take this.
Speaker 9 (10:00):
Yeah, I'm very insulted.
Speaker 8 (10:03):
Respect all this time you put it insulted.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
I'm vary.
Speaker 9 (10:07):
I've never been more insulted.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
Also, we also have some people who could turn it
on like you can't, buddy. You know, we've got some
we have to meet Wagon. That guy he can have
a twenty beer Sunday and not even blink.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
I mean.
Speaker 9 (10:24):
Twenty what are we talking about.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
He's got the capacity to absorb it and it's like
it goes it's like a black hole goes in and
it's just that nothing ever happens.
Speaker 8 (10:36):
Yeah, but has he ever won as the Wagon ever won.
Speaker 10 (10:38):
The blue Jacket.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
No, in his younger years, he might have had a
shot a time or two. There's alway there's always stories
of like, yeah, there's always stories of different guys who've
like been up for it. But the closest two time
winner we would have had as actually a veteran named
Josh Josh Phoebus. Josh has won it one year. There's
probably like three years in there he could have won it.
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Josh turns up as much as.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Anyone, So I mean It's got to be kind of
a big contrast to go from a guy wanting to
get his tooth out with a butter knife at a
drunken golf tournament to so, what are your thoughts on
the team this year, coach, and how do you think
they're gonna you know, how is it going to translate
into a new conference.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
It's kind of a different world going from that to the.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Used car salesman. With college coaches at a big ten
media days and salesman.
Speaker 8 (11:29):
It feels like there's a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
There's a lot of you hear coach speak and well
you know, I mean listen, like Ryan Day's talking about, well,
we know there's expectations. Well yeah, like you're at Ohio
State of courser's expectations. The good news is Harbus out
of the conference and your favorite to win it. But
then you know Oregon sitting there second.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Ohio State's going The West Coasters are like so interested
in Oregon.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I am as well.
Speaker 7 (11:52):
But I also it's kind of similar what I said
about the blue Jacket, Like a first time first year winner.
Everyone's high on organ because they've done a good job recruiting, developing.
If there's a team though that's gonna have the biggest hurdle.
It would be any of those West Coast teams. So
I think that's the one that I am most curious,
Not that I don't buy into the hype, because I
think they're a very good team, good roster, and on paper,
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if you said, hey, they're a top four team, I'd say,
no doubt, Like Georgia, Ohio State, Oregon maybe their top
three team. But the question still comes down to how
are they going to match up? How are they schematically
going to match up with the other you know, coaches
and coaching staffs, ocdc's, you know, how are the players
going to be able to match up the battle in
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the trenches. Everyone talks about how this team has been
built up like a like an SEC or a Big
ten team. As far as the offense of a defensive line, well,
we don't have to like speculate now, like now they're
in the Big Ten.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Now we get to see what that looks like.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
So that's the one that I know a lot of
people have talked about and they're excited about. I'm just
curious to see what it looks like. And I will
say this, I had a chance to talk to a
Mecca abuca Uh the outstanding wide receiver at Ohio State,
and I asked him about the pressure on Ryan Day,
and he said, we're, you know, very well aware of
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you know, what's transpired the last few years, and and
they're excited about the challenge. You know, they kind of
have more of a positive spin out there like that
we're looking for this is a great opportunity to change
the perception of what's happened. And he came back, like
many of the seniors at Ohio States, someone to what
we saw from Michigan last year because there was that
finished business. You know, in Ohio State they get gold
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pants for when you beat Michigan. And when you think
about someone like Marvin Harrison Junior, who was one of
the more decorative, almost outstanding players Ohio States had, didn't
leave with gold pants, and and that's a that's that's
a tough pill to swallow. And and Mecca talked about
that factoring into his decision to come back, even though
he could have went to the NFL last year.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
So there's awesome storyline.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
And gold pants are like literally like a charm, right
charm for people out there that may be thinking literally
gold gold pants as in like you know pants to
where there it's like a charm or something like that.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
It's made of gold. That's right, that's right, and they
and they get them.
Speaker 7 (14:13):
Obviously, I'm not sure that the whole history behind it
even be from clubs. I probably should know that, but
it is awards to those that win. When you don't,
you don't get them. And like I said, there's there's
a class right now that's that literally came back for
unfinished business, and I think you know it's it's it's
a good time to be able to come back and
try to accomplish that. Given how much Michigan lost not
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only on their roster but also the coaching staff, the
transition that's shron Mor their head coach now has to deal.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
With Ohio State's got to go at Oregon at Pennon
State this year. Which one is most likely to get them?
Speaker 7 (14:48):
To me, it's penn State, man, I mean, I'm I'm optimistic.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
About penn State.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
I've I've talked to other folks LeVar that don't feel
as optimistic. I mean, I think you look at the
running backs with the quarterback the duoc I love Andy
Kyle Neck you the new offensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
He's creative.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
So it's the defense is gonna be the defense, like
the defense is always there.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
By bid So Jalen is a beast. He's a beast.
But I just I just need to see what we're
gonna do on offense. Like I'm I'm I'm high on
cap like I'm I'm definitely I'm I'm confident it.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
But I feel like Oregon is is.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I think they're gonna be super competitive, I really do,
and I heck, I think Washington is going to be interesting.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
You know.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I just think that it's gonna be a nice clashing
of of cultures and and I think it's gonna it's
gonna yield some really really entertaining, entertaining games. So but
I appreciate Penn State having that that thought process or
that that that nod, But I like us stay kind
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of in the shadows. A lot of people don't really
know what we have. The biggest question is at receiver,
what are we going to do do there? But I
feel like, you know, we got some we got some
guys and you know, and the and the and the
wings that that can get it done. So well, see,
it's funny you say that that was the one position
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group that came up last night that everyone's like, you know, hey,
why why haven't we been able to stretch the field
more big players?
Speaker 7 (16:26):
Well, well, no one scares down the field, So I
don't know. I mean, look, I think, you know, Julian
Fleming is there. I think can get that done. I
think there's a few other players too, you know, Kiden Sonders,
I think can get that done. There's a few guys
who can do that. It's just a matter now on
a new offense of like making it happen and done.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Well, I know we're going to make it happen here
on this show three hours, Can you tell.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
Us Jonas as the resident SC guy, can you tell
us about SC?
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (16:54):
Maybe hour four I'll break down.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Us our four, I'll talk about your USC.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
Oh, South Carolina. Yeah, I listen.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Uh, last year, a lot of people had optimism going
into last year, and it was just they got off
on a bad foot, lost in North Carolina and it
just went downhill quick. And then you know, tried to
turn my attentions towards Hawaii. That didn't look at either.
So I'm just saying I just want to enjoy the season.
They play now Hawaii at the like the track. Yeah, basically, yeah,
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it's like somewhere off campus.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
You know who's the worst? Who is the worst home
field situation?
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Right, it's gotta be Hawaii outside of the fact that
it's you're playing in Hawaii.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, although if not, I mean Northwestern. How many games
are they playing at their at their eight thousand seat practices?
Speaker 7 (17:46):
Made one of them? They're playing a game at Wrigley. Well,
so that's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 8 (17:49):
Two of them.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
They're playing in Wrigley. They've got Ohio State and Illinois
at Wrigley coming up, and nobody, I mean that would
be That's just a ton of fun.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
You know too, I have got all about Northwestern. Might
have forgot.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
Think of that.
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Speaker 8 (19:28):
The fact that you were able to put that together
in real time. You're like, Lease, got a black.
Speaker 13 (19:33):
Mandiate on.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
My Buddet's on your lips? My buddet on your lips?
Speaker 4 (19:46):
H my gosh, hey Lee, did you feel like empowered?
Did you feel powerful with that black man band aid on?
That black person band aid on?
Speaker 11 (19:59):
Like?
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Did it make you feel strong? Like? What? What? What
would like?
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Did you feel a sense of pride when when that
band like you you see me? When Raina gave you
that that that band aid? Did you like feel like like, yeah,
you see me? You know who I am? Like I
felt aftured the essence of who I am.
Speaker 9 (20:16):
No, I just felt right at home, very natural. It
felt naturally, felt natural.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Did it did it blend in with with your skin? Like?
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Did you feel like it was blending like like this
really really fits me?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (20:29):
It felt it felt one with the spirit, you know
what I mean? Like that's what I felt?
Speaker 8 (20:33):
You felt like Lorain at that pool party?
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Like, did your did your vertical go up?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Like?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Did you feel like you were like super league at
that point?
Speaker 8 (20:40):
All of a sudden you condug a basketball? Oh, I
don't know what it is? My forty time drop three seconds.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Hey, did this Did this game get it better? Did
he did? He did?
Speaker 4 (21:03):
He shoot some lines at you, Loreena, and his game
was better, Like it seemed a little bit smoother.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
They had a little bit.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
More to it, like it was some girl.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
All I know is all I know is I walked
by the bathroom. But I could just hear lace. I
hear Li say, man, this water's cold, must be.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
Can I go on? Oh man, oh man.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Well that's good. I'm happy for you.
Speaker 14 (21:37):
Are you still wearing the band?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
That's a great question.
Speaker 11 (21:42):
Well, as you guys know, I don't usually put ointments
or band aids on anything.
Speaker 8 (21:46):
That's what.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
That's and has no problem having dinim on top of it.
Speaker 9 (21:55):
It's still scarred my knee from the rug bird.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
I thought you was gonna lose your leg. Man, I
didn't know what what direction that.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Was going, LeVar, Why did you get nauseous?
Speaker 8 (22:06):
They're thinking about that, what did you know?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Ointments? And they said his knee.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
It just makes you start thinking about how gross his
need looked.
Speaker 9 (22:17):
Yeahs.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Open wounds do not have like you know, like some
of them are tolerable, like you see some people with
like wounds like Lee's open wound. The last time that knee, Man,
that was just really a gross looking deal.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Man.
Speaker 8 (22:36):
This just really just like it gets me every time when.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
Your knee looked like it was a homelesstude.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
It's been outside and years, that's what. It didn't look
like it was gonna go well. Man, I'm telling you
was act like Mercer. It's like you was so relaxed
about it too.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
You know, it's all right, jeans on, Like the wound
is still open, Bro, Like what are you putting jeans.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
On it for?
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Like imagine?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Imagine really did end up getting mrsam playing football catching
a football radio row.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I mean, make for a hell of a story.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
But man, Bro, like you on you on crutches now,
like you use it like you're using a cart to
get around.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
All all the afflictions you could get in Vegas out
there for an entire week and Lee catches MRSA because
jeans were dirty.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Bro, His knee was like three different colors around that
he's talking about. It was fine, like one part of
it was green, another part of it was like yellow,
like eh, it just it just didn't look right, man.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
Just the fact that you look you get not looked.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Like the inside of a hard boiled egg that was
cut in the half. Like, that's what it is? That
a current photo.
Speaker 9 (24:02):
Of your That is I just took that photo.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Bro.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
It is almost the end of July, and your niece
still looks like that after falling in February.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
That scar is real.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
Ain't for you? Your genetics you need help. Wait a second,
your genetics need help. You need to put some stuff on.
Speaker 8 (24:23):
I think that might be getting worse. Like what you
what's going on here?
Speaker 9 (24:31):
I like to remember my battle scars, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 8 (24:33):
That's you're gonna remember that one when it puts.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
You stumbled over your own foot, Like, what do you mean?
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Battle scar?
Speaker 4 (24:40):
It's that looks still That was still one of the
most awkward tumbles I've seen.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Really do wish I could have seen it twinkled toes.
He'd be running on his toes, got one of the
funniest runs I've ever seen in.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
My entire life. But that looks like a U f
O on your knee like that.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
It looks like an unidentified flying object with power running
around it, like circling around it. That does not look good, bro.
That is one of the most hideous scars. I've ever
seen in my entire life. Man Like, it just looks
like it's still active underneath. It decided to heal, like superficially,
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but under the surface, it's really still bad.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I'm just telling you, man, Dang, I feel for you. Man,
you know I feel for you.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
All right.
Speaker 8 (25:35):
I can't believe that's still going on. I thought it
was healed. It got worse, all right.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Well then, I mean, you know, I don't know if
you're interested, but if you do, need to cover that up.
There are some black band aids in the medicine cabinet still,
so that there's a possibility, all right. Well, it's everybody's team,
favorite team to talk about, especially on this show, especially
you guys, the New York Jets. Not Aaron Rodgers' story,
(26:05):
a non Aaron Rodgers story involving the New York Jets.
It's Asan Reddick, who they acquired this offseason from the Eagles,
and apparently he's not showing up to camp. And I
guess this was not the plan, or at least not
the discussion that they had that according to S and
Y reporter Connor Hughes, who broke it all down.
Speaker 15 (26:25):
Before the Jets acquired Reddick in a trade from the
Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 13 (26:28):
They offered him an extension.
Speaker 15 (26:29):
It wasn't going to be anything crazy, but it would
have given him a raise on the fourteen point five
unguaranteed million he is set to make this year.
Speaker 13 (26:37):
Reddick said no. The Jets said, that is fine.
Speaker 15 (26:39):
We can discuss a potential adjustment to your current deal,
basically taking some of that unguaranteed money and converting it
to guaranteed salary, maybe adding some incentives, but any kind
of major lucrative extension, we're not going to talk about
that until you are here and you perform on.
Speaker 13 (26:53):
The field for us. Reddick, he was on board with that.
Speaker 15 (26:56):
He told the team and members of the team he
was going to be here for the off season program,
going to be here for mini camp, and was going
to be here for training camp earn.
Speaker 13 (27:03):
That mega money extension.
Speaker 15 (27:05):
At some point between those discussions that he had with
the Jets during his physical and now something changed because Reddick,
he did not show up for the offseason voluntary program,
he was not here for mandatory.
Speaker 13 (27:14):
Mini camp, and now it's training camp begins.
Speaker 15 (27:16):
He is not here. In the Jets, they're not sure
when he plans on showing up.
Speaker 14 (27:19):
Oops, yeah, let me let me translate for you guys.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
Okay, Hassan Reddick did exactly what he should do in
this case, because how many times have we heard teams
say they're going to offer this or do this and
do that and then they don't.
Speaker 14 (27:34):
So this is all part of the tactic.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
He probably knew the Eagles weren't going to pay him
what he wanted to be paid on an extension. He
got the Jets to trade for him, told him, yeah,
I'll show up for everything. I'll be a part of
all of it, and they were dumb enough to not
keep long term extension done before he got there.
Speaker 14 (27:51):
That is completely on the Jets. This is entirely mismanaged.
Speaker 7 (27:55):
If you're a Jets fan and you want to be
Matta Hassan Reddick, you shouldn't be because on the flip
side of this is always the conversation where a player
all right, gets taken advantage of by an organization. This
is one where the player is finally taking advantage of
the organization. It's very rare this happens, and obviously the
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organization looks terrible for trading for a guy you knew
needed extended. I mean, you even made the offer, and
just because he said no, or however the conversation went,
it clearly wasn't good enough. And so this was always
a potential. This is always a possibility. And once he
obviously got traded there, now he's got all the leverage,
because what are they gonna do.
Speaker 14 (28:37):
If he doesn't come out there on the field of
this window of time.
Speaker 7 (28:39):
You have with Aaron Rodgers, you look like a clown
for not being figuring out a way of extending him
and given him what he wants.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Well, I'll just I'll just say this, when when you
run into a situation like this and you get this
far down the road of not hand, it could go
one or two ways, right, it could work itself out,
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and it's a distant memory to everyone that there was
you know, there was some confusion at some point, or.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
It could play out.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
And if the New York Jets don't don't show that
they can, you know, get to the quarterback or have
somebody that's effective off of the edge whatever it is
that they were going to get from the services of
Hassan Reddick, it's going to come back on them as
(29:38):
to why didn't they handle it differently, which y'all know
where I'm going with this. Then now becomes if they're
not doing what they're supposed to do as a team.
Now it opens up the conversation of why do the
New York Jets not do what it is that they
need to do to make sure that they're putting the
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team in the best position to win games. Then it
comes back to how do you handle this situation where
your star football player, your franchise quarterback that you've got
only gotten four plays from, not be at a practice
that was mandatory, but he was unexcused every single thing,
(30:24):
it starts to be brought up, and it starts to
be talked about, and it starts to be scrutinized because
you're always looking for why it's going wrong for this
team that's in a major Are you.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
Saying they're not buttoned up there in New York with
the Jets.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
I'm just saying that's how the media works, and I
think that type of market.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
I think LeVar is.
Speaker 14 (30:45):
Starting to convince me maybe it's not gonna go off.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I think he might be right.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
There.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
The more this goes on and the more I hear
LeVar talk about, I'm like, oh man, he's gonna be right,
be right.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
I saw somebody somebody yesterday made the tell me if
you guys buy this. Somebody yesterday made the point that
Joe Douglas is in a tough spot because he doesn't
want to set a precedent that a player can pull this,
and that he just gets rewarded with more money, and
that there's other players who are there in similar situations
than which. I don't know if there's anything to that,
(31:21):
but it does feel like they kind of butchered this
thing from the jump and we're kind of sitting around
waiting and see how it unfolds.
Speaker 7 (31:28):
Precedent, Like you're setting the precedent wrong in either way.
Either you should have traded for him correct when he
turned down the offer that you made for him for
an extension, knowing he'd won an extension. I mean, was
it a secret when they traded for him. I'm sure
they were well aware that based on his sack production
in the last four years. They probably looked at him
(31:49):
and said, yeah, like, this is going to be a
guy that we want to be here for the next
you know, two, three, four years, whatever it is, we
need to extend them to make sure he's happy, otherwise we.
Speaker 14 (31:57):
Should do this trade.
Speaker 7 (31:58):
How that conversation didn't happen, How that you know the
deal didn't get done before they traded is beyond me.
I just who cares about a precedent like you've already
set the bad precedent of being willing to trade for
a player that you might not extend, and now he's
gonna be discrudgled. I mean, it'll come down to the
end of if he's going to show up or not,
(32:21):
because if he doesn't show up, he's gonna be subject
to fines.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
And you're gonna be finding a guy who.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
You brought into being an edge rusher for you at
a need and the guy hasn't even walked in the
front door because you got off to a bad start.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
I mean, it's just the whole thing.
Speaker 7 (32:36):
It just exemplifies why I feel like the Jets can't
just figure this out and then get over the hump
to focus on football. There's always some sort of off
season drama. And to Lvar's point, he said this for
a while now, if I'm a Jets fan, I would
start to be really frustrated with the fact that we've
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gotten the quarterback we want.
Speaker 14 (32:57):
But now he gets hurt.
Speaker 7 (32:58):
Well, now he's back healthy, and the issues whatever happens
with that. We've we've built around the quarterback spot. The
old line is better, the wide receiver course better, all
these things, and that they still can't seem to figure
it out.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
It's someone like Lebar you obviously a great defender, Like
if you were in this similar situation, wouldn't you appreciate
I mean, at least they could do is like call
you be a radio or something, right, you know, like
use a radio to get in touch with you if
they wanted to get this deal done.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Man, if that's yeah, I mean, listen when you're looking
at it from them. Well, the situation that he would
be talking about, Q is that of well using that
that nice little radio system that we always talk about
us And yeah, that's right. Looks he's talking about.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
You know what, Q.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
He's talking about how we could do that push the
talk walkie talkie offering national LTE coverage.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
If we need to get in contact with one another,
we don't need a subscription or a monthly feel to
all of that. We just need to be business owners
that could keep it in touch with up to two
hundred staff at one time. Can you imagine that that's
a whole lot of people to keep in contact with
the hit Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Right?
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Speaker 7 (35:01):
Actually I actually think they need a full time playing
a subscription with Rapper. It sounds like they're gonna be
an emergency situations need that radio more often.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Damn they needed that rapid radios when I guess, uh,
we couldn't figure out that Aaron Rodgers was in Egypt. Hey,
Aaron Rodgers, what should we say about where you at
right now?
Speaker 5 (35:25):
Where you is player?
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Use that l T.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Take it over.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
You need rapid radio.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
You need rapid radio for when this knee ends up
going gang green on you or whatever.
Speaker 9 (35:41):
Rapid radio relief.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Bro need some help.
Speaker 10 (35:46):
Do you remember when we were filling in on Dan
Patrick and Joel for some reason, nobody called for it.
Played the most grotesque part, drop.
Speaker 12 (36:00):
Lavarc so hard just says you better check your pants
play off.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
Play off.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
That was one of the wet fart dips I ever
heard him that it was bad, how it was so good,
It was so good, it was long, It was dang.
That was the funniest part, dropping.
Speaker 16 (36:25):
Your pants play Uh, it came out of nowhere, the
most random fart noise that that we've heard.
Speaker 8 (36:37):
It was so uncalled for, it is it.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Was comfortably long.
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What do you mean?
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you for a show a week from Friday. Come on,
let's do it at the camp Site Brewing Company in Covina, California.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
What day.
Speaker 17 (37:37):
Let's do it Friday, a week from Friday.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Three and a half hour window for you to arrive.
Think I'm out of town all right, Damn, we're moving on.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Next next next Friday.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
That would be a week from Friday.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
A week from this Friday coming. Yeah, I'm gonna be
out of town.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
I wish I could get an invite to one of
these PMS remos.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Shut up, you've been to like five. Damn.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Yeah, I wish it came. I'm being state college.
Speaker 17 (38:07):
I figured it's one or the other for you. Yes,
all right, what do you guys want to talk about? Hey,
I'm here, I'm at your disposal.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
So we wanted to come. Hang.
Speaker 8 (38:17):
I'm just curious.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
We're talking about Big Ten media days and you're seeing
Oregon pull up. You know they've got a giant rubber
ducky on on the lake out there or whatever.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
In Indian Yeah.
Speaker 17 (38:28):
Well I was around when they did the whole Joey
Harrington billboard, and they did the they had all the
receivers on the Figaroa Hotel and they had their cornerbacks
on the four oh five remember that. And they did
the Times Square kid, Yeah, this isn't new. And they
tried to get bow Nicks the Heisman last year. Remember
(38:50):
they had the big bow Nicks billboard. It's Phil Knight
and he wants it.
Speaker 8 (38:57):
Well it does it?
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Like just from a standpoint of those are all Pac
twelve teams. And I know we've talked about this at
length before, but the fact that it's finally here and
you're seeing all of them kind of incorporated into the
Big Ten now they're at Big Ten media days.
Speaker 17 (39:14):
Scattered like the Tower of Babbel, speaking languages that nobody understands.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Like, have you gotten used to that yet? Or is
it still seem a little bit surreal that that's what
this is coming.
Speaker 17 (39:23):
No, I don't think anybody's used to it, and I
don't think anybody's going to be used to it until
much later, if ever, if we even have it long
enough to be used to it.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
I mean, how used to are.
Speaker 17 (39:35):
You going to get to the ACC when it's on
the dizzy edge of crumbling quite soon? And then you
have the situation with all these teams in the Big
Ten and the arms race between the SEC and the
Big Ten, which is Disney and Fox. I'm not really
sure what there is to get used to. I mean,
(39:56):
college football has always been a changing, evolving, ever hypocritical entity, but.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
This is a whole new era.
Speaker 17 (40:06):
And I imagine that once we get down to like
playing football games and throwing and catching the ball and
traveling around the country and putting the stuff on air,
that we'll get a better idea of how interested people
are in it. I would imagine they're very interested, despite
certain changes here and there. But I don't know if
there's ever going to be any getting used to it,
(40:27):
because it's one thing to add Utah and Colorado to
the Pac twelve and kind of simmer in it for
a few years before it feels normal. But this is
a totally this is a totally different thing, and I
don't think anybody knows exactly what it's going to be
like other than the fact that we're going to be
playing football like we always do. And that's really the
(40:49):
only thing that's normal about the football season is the
fact that we're going to play football, because everything else
is totally different.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
Yeah, and you know today, Petro's I get the chance
to talk to some of those West Coast teams. We
heard you and I heard Lincoln Riley speak at our
summinar last week. First thing I want to ask is
just your overall thoughts of SC going into the season
and maybe the optimism or is this team maybe in
a better place where you feel like Lincoln Riley would
(41:16):
want to have him at this point? And then the
other thing is just talking about Ucla.
Speaker 14 (41:21):
I kind of I thought that.
Speaker 7 (41:22):
I forgot, but when it happened, when Chip Kelly decided
to leave Ucla to be a coordinator.
Speaker 14 (41:29):
It still blew my mind that it wasn't.
Speaker 6 (41:32):
Like he was going to the NFL.
Speaker 7 (41:33):
He went to another another college team. Like I'm just
kind of curious about like what that maybe says about UCLA,
maybe Chip Kelly. But then also just how you kind
of see USC heading into this season.
Speaker 5 (41:47):
Well, let's start with USC.
Speaker 17 (41:48):
We heard Lincoln Riley talking, and you know, it's that
it's very difficult when any kind of public press conference,
even the Fox seminar, unless but he's had a couple drinks,
you really just get the platitudes. There's nothing in there
that really makes you feel like you're getting something special,
(42:09):
like when you're at the bar and somebody's really telling
you what's going on, or you have a private meeting
with somebody.
Speaker 5 (42:16):
It's just we're going to do this, we like this, we.
Speaker 17 (42:19):
Like where we're at, blah blah blah, these challenges, we
embrace these challenges, blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah.
But the truth is us he is going to be
very different, just in the fact that they made a
lot of different hires on their defensive staff, and that
is something Lincoln Riley talked about and I'm interested to
see what that's like. The other thing you talked about,
which I thought was interesting, Remember Brady was the play
(42:40):
calling for Caleb Williams and how it really didn't suit
him as a play caller because the guy was such
a freelancer. And you know Lincoln Riley and the way
he calls plays. I remember how brilliant he was with
Baker Mayfield, you know, moving him half rolls, stopping throwing
back across the field, you know, different stuff like that.
(43:03):
And they were able to do it because they had
the two beautiful running backs mixing and p Ryan all
that stuff.
Speaker 5 (43:09):
But I just don't know what SC is going to
be like. I think a successful season's like eight or
nine wins.
Speaker 17 (43:17):
Beyond that, it'll probably be a situation where Lincoln Riley
finds his way to be a coordinator or something in
the NFL, because this is not the athletic director that
hired him. But it's also a ninety million dollar paycheck
that they paid just to get rid of everybody and
bring him and his staff in half of which they
(43:38):
fired now after a very disappointing second season. So there's
almost USC is like a microcosm of college football. In general,
a lot of unknowns, more questions and answers.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
Right now, as far as you.
Speaker 17 (43:52):
See LA goes, people talk about chip Kelly and oh,
chip Kelly left, and it says everything about modern college football.
And yeah, you can make that example if you want
to make that an example, if you want to sit
there and talk about how no one wants to be
a head coach anymore because it sucks, and look at
what chip Kelly happened. Yes, but you really have to
(44:12):
understand the situation individually. In every situation individually, chip Kelly
and his athletic director were not getting along. They did
not support each other. You could say that's on Martin Jarmon,
you could say it's on chip Kelly. Either way, their
relationship had deteriorated to the point where chip Kelly didn't
want to coach there anymore. He wasn't getting the recruiting
(44:33):
support he felt like he needed. Now that exists at UCLA.
Just look at all the transfers and the nil that
mc cronin just bought in. But UCLA is an open
wallet until it's closed.
Speaker 5 (44:48):
And I think Martin Jarman did some things.
Speaker 17 (44:50):
The ad at UCLA as far as being ambitious and
looking for other jobs. That turned people off at that university,
and they closed the w wallet to him, and they
don't They're not going to help him, which is why
he ended up hiring Deshaun Foster instead of making another
big giant swing like they did with chip Kelly. They're
(45:10):
not going to let him hire another chip Kelly because
he ruined that relationship. So Deshaun's get a chance, and
they brought in the enemy, and that's also very confusing.
I don't know what that's going to be like. I
hope that they have some success. They're going to be motivated,
and the players really love DeShawn, But what does that
look like? You know, what does it look like when
(45:32):
you make the running back coach the head coach, right,
and then he hires another running back to be the coordinator.
They're going to run Q eight on every third and eight.
So I don't know what that's going to be like.
But that's a situation where I don't think chip Kelly
would have left just any head coaching job. I think
he was eternally disappointed at the support he got at UCLA,
(45:55):
which is a difficult place to work. You need two
signatures just to get a new sharpener because you work
for the state of California and it's there's a lot
of red tape and a lot of bureaucracy. So I
don't think, you know, it's not just like Bill Belichick
doesn't want to coach the Patriots anymore.
Speaker 5 (46:10):
You know, it's not.
Speaker 17 (46:11):
There's a lot that goes into what happened at UCLA
and why. But if you want to say, hey, Chip
Kelly left because he didn't want to be a head
coach anymore, yeah, that's the truth. But it was probably
more about UCLA than it was about anything else.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
Petrocks, can I hit you with this one?
Speaker 4 (46:33):
Obviously, with the realignments and these these PAC twelve schools
going into the Big ten, there's gotta be for And
when I.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
Say, you know, take this gently because it's not a
slight or anything.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
But people like you who have have been a part
of the PAC twelve, is that group looking for this
year to be a win by the success of former
PAC twelve teams. I mean, you guys, clearly I would
assume are going to take pride in the fact that
if these schools newly into the pack excuse me, into
(47:08):
Big ten, or even in the Big twelve do well
this year. Is that a win to still brag about
the PAC twelve or is it just we accept the
fact that this is not the PAC twelve anymore. But
it's nice that they're having wins or success in these
different conferences.
Speaker 17 (47:28):
I think you'll get some of that, and you'll get
people that follow. And I think you probably had that
thirty years ago or whatever with the Southwest Conference and
people that followed Arkansas and Texas because it was regional
even though they weren't in the same conference anymore. And
now once again, of course they are. So just wait
around and things will come back around. I don't know
(47:48):
if West Coast football in the college world is ever
going to come back around like we had it. We
had a great thing for those of us on the
West Coast. We had travel partners, it all worked regionally
and financially.
Speaker 5 (48:00):
It worked.
Speaker 17 (48:01):
But they did not have the foresight like other places
did to keep it going, and they failed the region.
The presidents failed the region, Larry Scott, George Klifkov, everybody
involved failed the entire region.
Speaker 5 (48:14):
And now we have what we have.
Speaker 17 (48:15):
I do think that people will follow those teams just
like I will. I'll I'll always I don't know what
it is. Football is about familiarity. If you're not familiar
with a team, it's awful hard just to turn on
maction and get into it, unless you're like those guys
on Twitter, the Sikos, you know what I mean, like
(48:38):
Jonas and Q and But I like that, you know,
like I like college football in that way.
Speaker 8 (48:43):
I mean bowling Green on a Tuesday in October.
Speaker 7 (48:45):
I like, I love football on a Tuesday. You can't
convince me otherwise, right.
Speaker 17 (48:49):
But what I'm saying is like you have to make
yourself familiar with it, and the more familiar you get
with those teams, Like I'll give you an example. Uh,
what's the kid's name? He's the bailor quarterback now, is it?
Ta Kwan Finn? He was at Toledo? Right, So, like
three years ago I did a Toledo game when Da
Kwan Finn.
Speaker 5 (49:10):
Was the quarterback, and he was impressive.
Speaker 17 (49:14):
He ran around, he showed heart, he got banged up,
he came back, he fought hard.
Speaker 5 (49:19):
His team ended up losing the game, but I was like,
I really like this quarterback.
Speaker 17 (49:23):
So whenever Toledo shows up and mac shin or something
like that I watched Toledo. What is the good name
of the coach? Candle supposed to be a really good guy,
so you just kind of get interested in it. And
then now he's at Baylor, so we will see what
he does with Dave Randa.
Speaker 5 (49:40):
So that's the way I follow football.
Speaker 17 (49:42):
Just if familiarity breeds entertainment, I suppose for me.
Speaker 5 (49:47):
So yes, the.
Speaker 17 (49:48):
Answer that the long answer to a question levars. Yes,
I will follow all those teams and I will hope
for their success because of a West Coast kind of bias,
I guess that I have don't know how long cuts
can I cut in before Jonas only to ask this question,
if it works out where Oregon happens to be playing
(50:08):
against Ohio State in the playoff, is it possible that
I can come watch that game with.
Speaker 5 (50:13):
You where wherever you are?
Speaker 14 (50:18):
My house, sure, your house, a bar, wherever.
Speaker 5 (50:24):
I just I don't root that hard like you watch
football with that. I don't go that's a lie.
Speaker 6 (50:30):
That is a lie.
Speaker 5 (50:30):
Oh that was just fun.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
I just want to win.
Speaker 17 (50:36):
One day, I was all geeked up about the college
football playoff, but that was when Jameis Winston threw the
ball behind his head at the road.
Speaker 7 (50:44):
It's not that No, Oregon won that game. I'm talking
about the national championship game in Ohio State. Pleo Orger,
we watched that together, your disappointment for the entire West
Coast and the many things that were uttered that night.
Speaker 17 (50:54):
Well to block the three technique. It happened against Auburn too.
What was that guy?
Speaker 3 (51:01):
The truth is coming out.
Speaker 5 (51:02):
What was that three tech pea? No, he was the
Auburn guy.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
Yeah, Jack Brown.
Speaker 17 (51:09):
No, they won the championship that year when they beat
Oregon in Arizona. But you know, there is something to
be said for that. I mean, I think that was
the most watched BCS championship ever and it was Auburn
versus Oregon.
Speaker 5 (51:25):
Now, if.
Speaker 17 (51:27):
In Glendale, if you've ever been to Auburn, and I have,
there is nothing at Auburn.
Speaker 5 (51:34):
I mean it is all bricks. They have Tumor's Corner.
Speaker 17 (51:37):
Not that there's nothing, but it's not a big city
and it's not and yeah they have fans, but they're
not the biggest team in the state.
Speaker 5 (51:46):
And then you go to Oregon.
Speaker 17 (51:48):
I mean, if any of you, we've all been to Eugene,
well you're not missing that much, you know, that's kind
of the thing. No, No, I'll remember he took over
the game, for God's sakes, and he was an All
American player. It was their tackle and they didn't block him.
(52:10):
He blew up their mesh every single time. They couldn't
run their their stupid zone read. But anyway, Eugene is
not a big place. I mean, yeah, they have support
where in the state of Oregon. Sure, they have support
from Phil Knight. And that's why they're an international brand
because of all the stuff that you see going on
(52:32):
all over the place with their advertising and their marketing
and things of that nature. What I'm saying is what
was interesting about that game. It was West versus East.
There was something about it there. The whole nation was involved,
which is not what you get when Alabama plays a
LSU and the BCS title game, which I think was
(52:54):
the least watched BCS title game of all times. So
there is something to be said for that, Brady. And yes,
I'll watch any game with you, but I might not
be able to root as hard or recreate my emotions
from uh ten years ago.
Speaker 7 (53:08):
You just felt like it was an indication of how
people out east would feel about the people on the
West coast, you know.
Speaker 17 (53:15):
Well, yeah, well, when you don't block the free technique,
what do you expect?
Speaker 6 (53:18):
You know?
Speaker 17 (53:19):
And that's what to be honest, that's what was beautiful
about USC.
Speaker 8 (53:22):
Petri d Ford, No.
Speaker 5 (53:28):
I forget it, you guys. It can't be that hard.
Forget it.
Speaker 14 (53:31):
So I know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (53:33):
Back though, was this the one they lost to Florida State?
Speaker 3 (53:39):
That's the name.
Speaker 13 (53:40):
Didn't even look that up, Nick fairly.
Speaker 5 (53:44):
All I'm saying is this.
Speaker 17 (53:46):
What was beautiful about USC for many years was that,
and I'm talking about back.
Speaker 5 (53:51):
To the sixties.
Speaker 17 (53:53):
USC could recruit and develop offensive line and that's that's
what made them great and able to compete with the Alabama's,
the Ohio states and able to dominate you know, Oklahoma's
of the world and stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (54:10):
That's why USC is a great West Coast power.
Speaker 17 (54:12):
Now Washington was able to put together a beautiful offensive
line and make it work and play a really great
brand of football for a very short time under Klin
de Boor and now he's moved on. Oregon is not
like they used to be in those days. They're much
different upfront, and they are formidable on that side. I
(54:33):
don't think you're going to see the same kind of
you know, Crysta Ball kind of started that development upfront
for them and it is continued into this era and
they're good up there, So it's not the same. They
don't have the same problems that they did in the past.
But sustainability wise, you know, who can really create a
great front like Michigan did last year that made them
(54:56):
so good and all those guys weren't five star recruits,
they were just a develop personnel group.
Speaker 3 (55:02):
Uh.
Speaker 17 (55:02):
Who has the ability to do that on the West
Coast now? Is who's going to be able to compete
and make somebody like me proud of my sad, down
trodden politically backwards area.
Speaker 8 (55:14):
We love you.
Speaker 2 (55:16):
Get him on Twitter at the old p Petros Papa Vegas,
the co host of The Petros and Money Show, Fox
College Football analysts.
Speaker 8 (55:23):
Let's do it again next week, Petros was beautiful.
Speaker 17 (55:26):
I think I'm coming into to do what like, aren't
you going You're taking all kinds of vacations, Jonas, I
don't know what you're dealing is like going through a
midlife crisis.
Speaker 3 (55:36):
That's serious. Petro.
Speaker 4 (55:39):
You used to never take time off that's that new money,
Q like y'all got to pay attention.
Speaker 8 (55:44):
But got stuff we're figuring out.
Speaker 4 (55:47):
That's can you get Jonas a new truck?
Speaker 3 (55:50):
He needs a new trunk? Think Petros is there?
Speaker 5 (55:52):
Yes, I'm here, he's there.
Speaker 3 (55:53):
Okay, nice?
Speaker 17 (55:54):
Yeah, now they like to turn me down now because yeah,
I thought I heard you go there, which is.
Speaker 3 (55:58):
Not cool, by the way, cool not cool.
Speaker 5 (56:01):
No, nothing's worse than.
Speaker 8 (56:04):
Oh what is worse than one?
Speaker 5 (56:07):
Okay, what happened?
Speaker 3 (56:10):
Did y'all just do that to Petro?
Speaker 17 (56:13):
We're gonna have a serious there is.
Speaker 5 (56:18):
That is not that I don't know how long you
worked in radio. It is this your first baseball game?
Speaker 3 (56:24):
All right?
Speaker 2 (56:24):
Well you know they'll be sorting that out while we
take a break here.
Speaker 5 (56:28):
We love you.
Speaker 8 (56:30):
We'll talk soon. There is Oh boy, that's that's gonna
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