April 18, 2025 • 42 mins
2 Pros and a Cup of Joe fill in for Dan Patrick and applaud Aaron Rodgers for airing out the dysfunctional New York Jets. Travis Hunter is not a realistic dual threat in the NFL. Plus, the NCAA cracks down on fake injuries, LaVar’s emergency surgery and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Hell yeah, on a Friday, I'm talking about it. Got
my mouth surgery yesterday. It was emergency surgery. What my
tooth is the tooth with the iron mask, you know,
like like the movie they put iron in there.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
They said, dude, like, what the frick? Like, we didn't
make it to the crown.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
You destroyed your dentist as surfer.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
No, no, no, I was like, bro, is like, Bro,
you jacked your tooth totally up while we were waiting
for your permanent grown. Now we got to order you
a whole an entirely different crown for your tooth. You
know that isn't how he talks though he's super cool dude,
but he had to really do some work because I
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fractured my tooth.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
This is gonna come off as sound like a d bag,
but I'm gonna go ahead and do it.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I'm very ignorant when it comes.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
To teeth, despite the fact that my father in law
is orthodonists. But I never asked questions about it, mostly
because I really don't care. But but like, what so
the crowns for a while, if you have a cavity
or something.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I had to get a root canal. Yeah, so they had, so.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
You get a root canal when again a cavity you
have something.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
No, they don't remove it. They just like drill to
the the nerve and then like yeah to the root. Yeah,
and then they like killed the nerve and then they
let it heal, and then they put a crown on it,
and it's like nothing ever happened, you know. But I
had a temporary crown on because I'm getting a gold
and I hear maybe that's the moral of the story.
(02:27):
I was, I'm getting a matching goal. A goal, yeah,
but it's in the back. It's in the back.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Why would okay, hold on, this is great, We're gonna
break the style. Why would you want to get a
gold tooth and that no one's going to see in
the back?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Gods, I can, right, but no one's ever gonna see it.
So what do you like them?
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I smile pretty big, que and I gotta I already
have one gold. Have you ever saw a gold tooth
in my in my mouth? Like when I smile, smile
enough around, shut up? Some people might see it, you know,
almost cursed on a.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Curve, look deep back in there. That's correct, that's correct.
So if you see it, if you see it, you
know it's because he.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Was really in my mouth. But I'm gonna get another
one on the opposite side of matching one. And I
was waiting on it. And while I was waiting on it,
I guess, I was. I was sitting around. I was.
I know, I'm not supposed to chew nuts, but I
wouldn't as I was chewing on nut clusters and then
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I fractured my too. Okay, but which one can't be
a cashew? Cashews too? It was it was a cluster,
so it was almonds, it was cashws, it was sunflower seeds,
and it's like put together and like dar kind of
like that. But they're like they're keto. They're Keto though,
(04:05):
so they're pretty good. But yes, yes, And I was
just sitting there and I was chewing and I bit
and I felt it boom, like I fractured it too.
I didn't even know you could fracture too. I just
thought you break it, which a fracture is a break,
I guess, But I mean, I don't know. I'd never
heard that terminology used. And it scared me, you know.
I was sitting there and they were like, man, they
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were going through the language of it and taking the
X rays and then they were like, yeah, da da,
there's such and such a bicuspics and this is that
one is fractured. I was like, fractured. Oh my gosh,
it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
My dadd has told me said, listen, nuts will get
you every time.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
He said, just relax. He said that a trick.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Is you can take almonds and you soak them in
water to make them some if you want to, uh,
if you still want to get your your almend fix.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Alright, this is the part of conversation where I have
the jump and so well, let's get the sports.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Come on, man, we were good until we started get
into the nuts conversations.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Too much nuts is not good for you.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
All right.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Well, you know, some would say that the Jets organization
is nuts. Some would say they've been nuts for quite
some time.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
The reason sometimes like a nut.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And apparently it was a nutty situation and departure for
Aaron Rodgers, who spoke yesterday on the Pat McAfee show
starring aj Hawk and Rogers decided to air out the
New York Jets and describe what the final meeting was
with Aaron Glenn with Aaron Moogie. This is entire situation debacle,
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if you will. Here was Rogers breaking it all down.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
I figured they went.
Speaker 7 (05:49):
I flew across country on my own dime that there
was going to be a conversation, and twenty seconds in
he goes, I mean literally, I'm talking to the GM
about something and he leans to the to a sheet and.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Goes, should you want to play football?
Speaker 7 (06:03):
And I was like, yeah, I'm interested, and he said
we're going a different direction in quarterback and I was
kind of shocked. Now, not shocked because I didn't think
that was a possibility. Listen, of course they want to
move on. That's totally fine, but shocked because I just
flew across the country.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
You could have told me this on the phone.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
So I said huh, and he goes, we just want
to know how you want it released the messaging and
I said why And then he said, I don't want
to be up in front of the room saying something
and have guys looking back.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
At you interesting And I said, what does that even mean?
Speaker 7 (06:34):
Are you assuming that I would be in the back
of the room during the team meeting undermining what you're saying.
I said, you don't know me, and he said you
don't know me, and then I said exactly, which is
why I flew across the country to have a face
to face meeting with you to talk about my experience
with the Jets. What I thought was going to be
a couple hour meeting turned into like a fifteen minute
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meeting and I walked out of there.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
So there's your your final moments with the New York Jets.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
And was that a beef?
Speaker 4 (07:05):
You don't know me, homie. Look, man, you don't know.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
This has to look terrible for the Jets, right, Oh gosh, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I mean, because here's the reality of it.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
If if that's how you're willing to deal with the
guy wh's gonna be a first Battle Hall of Famer,
how do you feel like they're gonna deal with guys
who are on the back end of the roster? I
mean as a player, and I'm not saying that like
all players like Aaron Rodgers or all players even relate
to Aaron Rodgers. He seems to have a good rapport
with his teammates. But you sit there and go, this
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is how this, this is how the team's handling this
guy like he Now, mind you, he probably flew private
like his on his own dime.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
It's like that.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
It's not like the team's flying him there on his
jet to get there, which is a pretty penny if
you're coming from California to New York and back. Like
I would estimate, I don't know. Someone who's in the
industry would would probably correct me, tell me I'm wrong.
Minimum eighty thousand dollars hundred thousand just for that trip.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
There and back.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Minimum, that's probably what he's spent doing it. And to
not at least want to hear from a guy who's
won or Super Bowl won what four MVPs seems to
have a different perspective on the league, but could give
some insight to Aaron Glenn who's stepping into his first
opportunity as a head coach and doesn't know this organization,
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regardless of what anyone wants to say, doesn't note as
well as Aaron Rodgers. He's been there the last two years.
He's got a much better feel for the pulse of
Woodie Johnson how things have operated the past couple of
years than Aaron Glenn does. And he didn't want to
take the time just to pick his brand and talk
to him, even if he didn't want to see him
as his quarterback.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Right.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
It's kind of goes back to like the Bill Belichick
not getting more interviews, Like teams didn't even want to
take the opportunity when you had a legitimate chance to
take the opportunity to pick one of the greatest football
minds mind in an interview, even if you don't want
to hire him, just bring him into at least interview
him and see what we can get from him, right knowledge,
he'll be willing to give up and maybe pour into you,
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your organization, your leaders, whoever. And so for Aaron Glenn,
you didn't even want to do that. You're just gonna
jump right to the point. And I guess I understand
to a degree he doesn't want to waste his time.
But then to Aaron Rodgers' point, just give m a
phone call, Like if it's over like that, just give
him a phone call. This makes it look like the Jets,
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and LaVar has said it all along, our dysfunction, but
also now it looks even more like a clown show,
and it feels like you've got a head coach who, yeah,
maybe he has an idea of what he's trying to build,
but it almost makes it look even worse to how
this year is gonna go with Justin Fields as their quarterback.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
If things don't go well, it's.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
A disaster because you had a guy you could have
brought back, who's a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
And so if he goes somewhere else and plays.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Well and that team's in the hunt, or if that
and even then like forget that, that might be even
separate from if the Jets just fall apart become a
dumpster fire. He could be a one and done Like
these are some of the things that start to come
out in the media where it puts more and more
pressure and makes everyone question, is this guy maybe there's
a reason why it took him so long to become
a head coach. He's been a great decordinator, he's had
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a great reputation, But then you watch how he handles
this instance, this situation, I don't know, man, dysfunction, clown show,
whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
That's the right back of the Jets are again.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
I have a theory, and the theory is he is
acting off of off of the feelings of ownership. And
I've seen this happen before. I've been I've been a
party to Joe Gibbs falling victim to doing the same
exact thing. I was the leader of a team, I
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was the face of a of a team, of a
franchise of the town and due to a vendetta that
was apparently I wasn't really even aware of it, but
due to a vendetta of the owner and how he
turned his feelings on how he felt about me, he
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tasked someone else, because he's a coward. He tasked someone
else to be his henchman, and Joe Gibbs went for it.
He took the cheese, and his coward ass did the
same thing like head behind, you know, things he shot
in the head behind, and the conversations that he and
I were having, which was interesting because if media was
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where it was at right now, I'd have probably did
the same thing that Aaron Rodgers did and had the
conversation about it, and we probably be having the same
conversation about how you have a dysfunctional organization. I tend
to believe that Aaron Glenn and handling Aaron Rodgers was
totally doing with the influence of what he had already
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had got from and communicated with Woody Johnson in terms
of how they made him feel, in terms of what
they think took place with Aaron Rodgers in New York,
and Aaron Glenn was executing what his feelings were towards
the situation with Aaron Rodgers, and did that under the
(12:26):
influences and the pretenses of what was fed to him
once he came to the New York Jets as their
head coach. So in a way, while we'll say, okay, maybe,
as a head coach, you don't allow for an owner
or corporate to dictate how you handle a situation. Keep
your emotions out of it. You are the head coach
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of this team. You have to manage the relationships with
these players differently. But that could be also tongue in cheek,
because we all know this is the man that hires you.
This could be the man that fires you, whether it's
a year, whether it's two years, whatever it may be.
And he's already showing signs of trying to pacify dysfunction.
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That's my theory. I don't think that Aaron Glenn would
have wanted to take the stance he took with Aaron Rodgers.
In fact, knowing Aaron Glenn, I would assume he would
want the best players on his team. I don't think
he had a choice. I don't think he had a
choice in the matter of keeping Aaron Rodgers on that
roster based upon the feelings that were going towards Aaron
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Rodgers and Aaron Glenn was tasked to make that one
of the first things that he handled once taking the job.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
So then Woody Johnson is still meddling in decisions, got it.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
I think the influence. I think the only way you
take because let's be clear, as former players, whether you're
a coach now, whether we just you know, whatever you're
doing in your life. When we see one another, we
greet each other a certain type of way. You're not
going to like, come out, You're not going to come
out a.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Guy, hold on, And what type of way is that?
It's different than anybody else, right.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
You say, hey, I come in. I kind of couple you.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
We greet each other very differently than everybody else. But
everybody else to us, aren't us. I mean that's I
if that, if I'm letting the fan base and people
in on a secret, I'm sorry to do that. It's
not that we think any less of you. It's just
that we don't think of you the same way we
think of one another.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
That's all. That's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Sorry you if you could give me the difference between
you and Jonas kind of seeing each other, Yeah, somewhere
on the street or whatever.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Then and you and I seen one another?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
All right. If I saw Gentinus, I'd be like, somebody,
what's going on? Brah? If I saw you, I'd be like.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
You, what's up? Damn?
Speaker 4 (14:59):
How your body feel? Kids?
Speaker 6 (15:01):
Is good?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Everything?
Speaker 6 (15:01):
Good? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (15:03):
Cool?
Speaker 4 (15:03):
All right?
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Man?
Speaker 4 (15:05):
I was good. I was gonna you know, and you
always say it's good to see you, like three four
times when you see somebody that played, you'd be like, man,
it's good to see you, bro, man, so good to
see you.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I was gonna point out like a racial component, but
you really buckled my knees when you went to Brady
on that.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Yeah, there's no real quick real quest's great Jonas, that
it exceeds race.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Did you see me on the street? Why do we
greet each other?
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Say again, how would that would me on the street?
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Hey hey Brady, little top gun, Hey hey little up
top Jonas, what's up? Hoss?
Speaker 4 (15:40):
That's football? That's football talk though you can't use hosts. Yeah,
but that's you know, that's like maybe high school. Yeah,
we're really trying hard to be a meathead. Yeah you
were trying. Yeah, that is sometimes cats like you try
to overcompensate because I want to be greeted that way.
But it's the same thing if I see LeVar. If
I see LeVar, I'd be like, so.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
That, you know, what's weird.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Every time I see Jonas and every time we walk
together from like the set during Radio rodor in Super Bowl,
I always am like, Man, if I had an oil can,
I would try to like just inject some oil into
Jonas's joints just to make him look a little smoother.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Man.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
It's just please, it's very rigid. It's a very rigid, stiff.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
That's vampire joints.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
That's not true.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
There's zero there's like zero skip, zero, limps, zero anything.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Because you get to where we go part. Yeah, I'm floating.
All I've got in my body is blood and it
ain't mine. You don't know the vampire life. You know
what we go through. You know. Here's here's what's so
funny about the Rogers discussion. So I'm seeing yesterday people
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are you know, laying in like, oh God, of course
it's everybody else's fault. And he's this and that and
he's pointing fingers and it's like I just want to say.
We're not talking about like a high functioning, well respected
history of great decisions and great moves and great we're
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talking about the Jets. Yes, it's plausible that the meeting
happened exactly how it happened. It's not like Rogers has
been known to just lie. Okay, people could put oh, well,
you know the COVID stuff and all. No, you just
he found a loophole in his messaging and that's why
people are still bitter about it. But it's not like
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we're talking about oh well, this is just this is
an organization that is pristine and all they know is
success him saying it about them. So you're the one
guy who's got a problem with the way that they
handle things. There, No, we've seen this for decades. It's
the same story for decades. Insert quarterback. It's a disaster,
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drafted signed head coach. So like, when I hear the
pushback on things he's said, look, is he a little
bit arrogant?
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Is he a little bit aloof at times? Does he
want to control the messaging? Does he like the attention
but claim that he does? Probably, But it still doesn't
admonish the Jets from being palpable in this whole situation
whatever I'm trying to say, palpable in this whole situation,
that they're a disaster and they've been a disaster for years.
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And we've brought this point up before on our show
when the first couple of moves and couple of signs
are hey, we don't want any part of this. We're
Bill Belichick and Bill Parcells saying no, we're good here.
And that was before we had any sort of intel
or information on what Woody Johnson's era with the Jets
was going to be. That should have been the indicator. Okay,
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maybe there's something wrong here. So the pushback on Roger
I don't get because it's the Jets. They've done this
for decades.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
And they didn't even play that bad. It's to me,
he's better than Justin Fields last year. He's better than
Justin Fields.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Can I point out for one instance, don't point out though,
where I think a lot of people have dug their
feet in and it's over as far as how they feel.
It's the whole vaccination thing. Yes, that was such a
polarizing issue that there's a lot of people who maybe
they're football fans, maybe they're not. But whenever you talk
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about politics, religion, things like that, and obviously the whole
vaccination deal it was polit a size and that's why
it became so polarizing. But the way he messaged the
immunized comment and how people took that and how this
people drew a line in the sand back then, and
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they've never been willing to concede on any of that.
I mean, this is like outside of a sports conversation,
Like the people who believed in the people who didn't.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
They drew a line and they're not ever willing to
cross that.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Like no one's even like even right now, regardless of
whatever report comes out, whatever side you were on, they're
sticking to that. They're like, there's no way you're going
to convince them otherwise. And unfortunately, like he put himself rightfully,
so he put himself in the middle of that with
how he handled that, and I think that actually might
be the most polarizing thing that has still followed him
to this day, outside of even how he's handled things
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with being so open and honest about, you know, things
in Green Bay and how the drafting of Jordan Love went,
or even his time with Brett Favre and everything else
up there, and now with the New York Jets and
everything else in his personal life that's become public, which
with the documentary.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
So to me, as much as he is very unique.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
As an athlete or as a quarterback in the NFL,
there's also an element of like that singular thing, to
me created the biggest divide for the people who are
either for Aaron Rodgers or like Aaron Rodgers or against them.
And it's kind of crazy when you think about it,
and people can say that's not true, but you're lying,
Like I see it. To this day, there's people who
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still have like ruined friendships on as close with their family.
There's all sorts of issues from that singular moment in
time with the way people kind of drew a line
in the sand, and they're not ever willing to cross
it and they're not ever willing to go back on
whatever happened back then.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
He never breaks character either though. That's I think that
that really irritates a lot of people. And if I
were a betting man, I would say the way Aaron
Rodgers conducts himself is an irritant to people. Like a
Woody Johnson, he does not break character. Oh yeah, and
he answers questions, especially almost as if it's like a riddle,
you know what I mean, Like he doesn't break character.
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He stays in that same well you know. And and
all I wanted to say was yep, I can't you
could have done at this by the phone. Well you
don't know me. Well you're right. And and that's why
I can't like the witty comments that the comebacks. It's
not it doesn't help. It doesn't help, Like show me
(22:12):
some emotion, like I'll beat trassed, Like what oh whoa
Aaron Rodgers said? What you know what I mean? Like
it is it is funny. Yeah, we they don't break character.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
It is funny how we pick and choose you know who.
We're still gonna punish for things that were done and
said five years ago during COVID.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
A long time ago. Yeah. Well, Woody Johnson ain't thinking
about the immunization. He's thinking about how Aaron rod tried
to ruin him. He tried to ruin me. No, he's
got there. You better get him.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Someone say he's got a vested interest, and somebody getting
I can't do it myself.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
You guys handle it.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
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Billy Horschel yesterday at that tournament whatever the tournament.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Was, because thatth looked grotesque?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Did you see that, Brady? The guy Shinn who took
a golf ball while in the gallery and horn shot horse.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
I'm always a big fan though, I'm always a big
fan of those who are sticking it out, able to
kind of tough it out through it and basically providing
a backboard for professional golfers just in case they sprayed
a little bit outside of the fairway, there's always a
nice fan in there to help bounce it right back
in or at least stop it right there in the rough.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah. He So this guy got a golf ball straight
in the shin and Horsell went over. I think he
outlined it and then autographed his leg afterwards, and it
is revolting. So hopefully, hopefully that that gentleman is okay
and can continue on and join the tournament, you know,
at the gallery there, whatever tournament that was not named
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number two pick in the draft. The betting odds have
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indicated that Travis Hunter will be the pick at number two,
depending on if the Browns are picking there or not.
Who knows, but that is the expectation that as far
as the gambling odds go, that it could be the
Browns taking Travis Hunter, and so the GM of the
Cleveland Browns, Andrew Berry, spoke about Travis Hunter's skill set
and also compared him to one of the all time
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great talents that we are currently watching.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
That number two pick is that's kind of how he's viewed.
Is the guy that can do both versus just is
one side of the No, I don't see it that way.
I think it's and I'm going to use a crossburn now.
It's a little bit like Otani right where you know,
when he's playing one side, he's an outstanding player.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
If he's a pitcher.
Speaker 8 (26:59):
He's a hitter, he's an out the only player you
obviously get a unicorn if you use them both ways.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
All right, so he's getting the comp. He hasn't played
in the that's not a good yes, not a good comp.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Why not? Well, because what is otan? What does Otani
play when he's not being a picture?
Speaker 6 (27:16):
Well?
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Well done? Yeah, that was more so his mean he
doesn't need that's like that. That's that sneaky shot. They're like,
why do you go down? How do you all? Is
right there? Brady with an undercut, you know, just a
little something, a little under underneath.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
I don't know, I'll say, is his normal position is
not picture correct?
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Doesn't he pay like shortstop or something?
Speaker 5 (27:46):
No?
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Yeah, no, he's a d H d H picture. You
know he's not a picture all the time. Well, he's
not a picture. Don't be miss miss like leading.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Here's why I you know, if you want to say
it's not a fair comp, first of all, because Travis
Hunter hasn't done anything in the league yet, But also.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Don't don't do that.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
No, I'm just saying no, I'm just saying he is that.
We have no idea if it's going to work. Out,
and if it's the Browns, who knows.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Well, that's even more true. But Otani he's working to
come back. He is hoping to pitch at some point
this year, and he's a great hitter. And so these
baseball players play both sides. They NBA or you know basketball,
they play both sides, right, like you play offense and
you play defense.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
We've never seen anybody be able to pitch and hit
the way Otani has.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Yeah, but they go both ways. They do both well. No,
I'm not saying that's you know what I mean, like
the defense. Yeah, it's not a fire for you to
do both and in football. So that's why I say
it's a poor comp But I get what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
You're basically saying, like, for example, if we're counting pitching
his defense right in baseball, which it would be correct,
it'd be like him playing pitcher and catcher like, and
then Travis Hunter playing cornerback in d end right, Like,
that's in essence what you're saying. I'm saying, you play
both quarterback and also a wide receiver quarterback d n White, Dane,
(29:13):
I mean, I mean that's the equivalent of show Hey, Yeah,
but I would I just think that with with Travis Hunter,
you're getting a unicorn. If he can play at a
high level and play here here, here's the thing. Right,
If you play on that cornerback and he can become
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an All Pro, that is phenomenal in itself.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Period. If he plays receiver and can become an All Pro,
that is phenomenal period. You know, some of the greatest
players who have ever played this game only have like
like a handful or less than a handful of first
team All Pro bids. Right, So if you you're good
(30:00):
enough to be an All Pro player and on that
list at your position, that's phenomenal. Now, if you have
that type of talent, are we are we adjusting our scope?
Are we saying, Okay, he.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Should be an All Pro corner but just be a
serviceable receiver, or should he be an All Pro receiver
and be a serviceable cornerback?
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Like what are we looking? How are we? Because again
the conversation that we had the other day when we
were debating, and I know you said you know his status,
we looked up his stat lines or you looked up
his stat lines Q and made the point because I
think t mac is is a guy that is special
at the receiver's position. But the point is is that
if you believe that he can be an elite playmaking
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receiver where he goes number two overall in the draft,
are you expecting him to do that at both positions
or is it just one? Because I think that plays
a major part in all it is. Is it both
ways or is it just one and serviceable to the other.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Well, here's what I'd say, is right if we look
at the draft.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
And people always say, oh, you get a fifty percent
chance of getting hit on a guy in the first round, right,
people will say that, well, technically, if he plays two positions,
gotta get fifty percent chance.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
At either one.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
And so I think the position versatility or flexibility is
where the value comes in. Is if you think he
can be like he was in college, a top wide
receiver and or a top cornerback, then it increases your
odds of hitting on that pick, of getting a guy
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that is maybe a gold jacket guy at one of
those two positions. Now, if it ends up being both, great,
But from just a pure odds betting standpoint, if you're
a betting man and you're saying I can increase my
odds of this player being an impactful players starter, pro bowler,
All Pro Hall of Famer at one of two positions.
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It takes some pressure off of you, right, I mean,
you could play him a wide receiver if things aren't
going as well, put him at cornerback. Like I think,
I have a hard time believing that one of those
two isn't going to stick for him, at least based
on what I've seen on tape. Again, I keep going
back to I think his natural fit for me, and
this is just more of watching him play both. And look,
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don't get me wrong, he's got natural instincts as far
as a ball catcher, a great hand, eye coordination, suddenness,
and his route running. But he's still very raw with
his route running and that's something that takes time to
develop whether you're Travis Hunt or any other wide receiver.
But as a cornerback, he just has a feel for
the game and how he sees the game and how
he sees the quarterback and how that you know, and
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different route combinations. I just I feel like that position
comes to him more naturally. And so all I'm saying is,
if you could take someone who improves your chances of
it being a hit. As a general manager, that goes
on your resume to showcase to the owner and everyone
else that.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Hey, this is you know, this was a hit.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
This was another another hit, another one that worked out
for me as a general manager. You're gonna take that guy.
So I don't know which will end up playing on it.
Maybe the Browns will do both, like maybe Thot'll be
part of the intrigue for twenty twenty five. If this
is a team that's still at the bottom of the
AFC North because of the quarterback situation, at least you're
selling one of those dynamic players we've ever seen, potentially
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in his rookie season, trying to play both ways.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
There's something to be said for that.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
If he's listed as both ways, how are you going
to pay him?
Speaker 5 (33:43):
How do you have to worry about You don't have
to worry about that for at least three more years,
But how do you do you pay him for both positions?
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Because that's a roster he's if he is a full
time receiver and he's a full down corner.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Your your CBA, the draft, the rookie draft, sellar pool.
So it doesn't really have anything to do with you know. Now,
now we're where he'll get a bonus is his play
snap percentage. So remember, because even when he's paid as
a rookie, he'll get a huge bonus at the end
of the year if he's playing both ways because of
the amount of snaps. He's playing on both sides of
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the ball. So that's where he'll be able to cash
in on that. And that's where the en You know,
NFLP has done a good job and trying to reward
guys who aren't being paid as much, and especially as rookies,
but they're playing a lot, so it's at least covered
a portion of that gap. And I understand what you're saying,
but that's three years away. That's that's the first opportunity.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
That man became an All Pro on both sides of
the ball as a receiver and as a corner, which
we've never seen that happen ever before. How are you
going to pay that man?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Let me ask you, because I think it's along the
lines of what you were thinking, LeVar, but i'll kind
of throw it at you.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Guys. If he was just a wide receiver, is he
in consideration for the number two pick? No? No, If
he was just there's no receiver being considered, right, So.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
If he was just a corner, would be would he
be in consideration for the number two pick.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
No, that's a good way of putting cause I would
say yes, though I would say yes in that regard.
I say he's not a top five pick at corner.
I think he's more like Will Howard.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Is a Will Howard who the corner out of Mill Johnson,
Will Johns Will Johnson. I say he's more like that,
He's more in that that category. Then again, no, I
take that back. I take I take that back. I
take that back because I'm thinking about Champ Bailey or
he's on the level of I mean, actually, yeah, he's
on the level of a Charles Woodson more so than
even a Chant Bailey. I mean he's in that category
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of players. So yes, yes he would. So I'll put
it this way.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
If I think, I think he's the best corner, and
I do think in a class that by the way,
it's not a great wide receiver class. So between t
mac luth Burden, you know, Matthew Gold's got a lot
of buzz in Texas because he's so fast. You know,
I don't know that you go and watch the tape
and say, like, can he come in and be in
meet at number one? And that's what you're usually drafting
him to be. So it's kind of interesting. But I
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think he's one of the best, if not the best,
in the wide receiver class too, So it all depends
on how you view him. But I think as a
cornerback without a doubt. As a wide receiver, it might
be partially due to the wide receiver class though too.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Yeah, he's a top he's a top five pick. He's
a top five pick at cornerback. I'm not going to
go I'm not going to go that far at receiver. Cornerback.
He's tough, fat pick.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah, it's well, it looks like it'll be in Cleveland,
So it would behoove them to try and maximize his abilities,
Like if you've got that sort.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Of talent, would it?
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:41):
All right? Eitherwise, you know, am I losing sooner? All right?
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Speaker 2 (36:49):
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Speaker 4 (36:58):
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Speaker 4 (37:28):
We'll get into that for a year on FSR. I
can't believe you had just.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Dismissed my caring like you are ridiculous, Bro, If you
could have heard what this man just said during the
break you.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
I can't. I can't even Brady, I'll tell the royalty
that he was talking about that that Travis Hunter would
be collecting on It's it's ridiculous what he said, Bro,
I know this.
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Speaker 1 (38:13):
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Speaker 2 (38:23):
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Speaker 10 (38:27):
Good morning everybody, Good morning Jonas, Good morning LeVar, Good
morning Brady.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Guys.
Speaker 10 (38:32):
In case you miss this, the NCAA is finally cracking
down uh. The Playing Rules Oversight Panel has decided that
they're in stating a new rule that that states that
teams will be charged with a timeout if a player
requires medical attention after the ball is spotted by an official.
If they don't have any remaining, they will be hit
with a five yard delay of game penalty.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
This is of course, to.
Speaker 10 (38:52):
Weighe off players feigning injuries at the end of games.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
How's this going to be determined? And they're going to
just go over and like, oh, you say you're CAF hurts.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Yeah, because they're gonna they're gonna know if so.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Here's the deal.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
If the balls marked all right, because what happens is
usually in a hurry up scenario or when the team's
playing up.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Tempo, somebody of cramp or something some.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
Well, and what they'll do is, though they they move
the ball on field and they get the call in
from the sideline right like they're they're trying to slow
down the offense. So the defense will like make a
call from the sideline and that's when they'll then see
a player go down.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Right, That's what they're trying to eliminate.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
You know, most guys when they get hurt, they're probably
gonna be down on the ground, you know, having an issue,
or they might you know, go back down and kind
of take a knee rather quickly.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
What they're trying to eliminate is the.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
Stuff where a guy you know, gets up, he's running back,
looks over and everyone sees it on TV, but maybe
not on the field or people are at the game.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Then the guy goes down and exactly like he has
an injury.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
So that's why they're trying to say, look, once the
medical people come out, that dude's got to come off,
and they're charge the timeout and all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
So I like the rule, I will be curious to
see how the implement it.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Though the delay will be hard, but delayed reaction is uh,
it's always well done.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
They're gonna be aware of this, the coaches is gonna
be because the coaches being on this, on on this
as well, just so you know, so they there's actually
time where you practice these reps. They're gonna they're gonna
get ahead of the rule like that. It's not it's
gonna be predetermined, and predetermined has always been a part
of it. Anyway. Every once in a while you get
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a dude that's too tired to get his fat ass
up and get going again, and so he'll he'll fake
the worm and hit the ground. But for the most part,
if you're trying to slow it down or whatever it
may be, they'll say this is a two minute like
situation there, or they're in a two minute style offense, this,
that and the other. They'll signal like you'll have a
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signal to know that somebody needs to go down, and
you'll know who the designated person is. So it'll be
interesting to see if the rule can can govern it.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
I mean, you're trying to out the validity of a
Charlie horse in this day and age again, how do you.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
Know if it's real or not? Like it's almost like, okay,
well he's got to stay out, you know, the rest
of this series or something like that.
Speaker 10 (41:12):
In fact, the American Football Coaches Association did try to
implement that that a player would have to sit out.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
The entire That makes that makes more sense, and that
makes more sense.
Speaker 10 (41:22):
They say they'll come down with a supplementary discipline if once,
if they review it and they figure out that it's fake,
well there you go.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
How much you get better electrolytes? And this one happened.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
I blame them. I blame the training staff. They should
be held accountable. Next guy that gets a cramp that
they call fake, that trainer should be fined and suspended
for the next two games.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Tang All right, well what else is well? Guys about this?
I don't have time to play it for you.
Speaker 10 (41:50):
But Shane Gillis talked about his time at the Masters,
said he was really trying to get into it, but
he couldn't see a damn thing. He replaced that I
was Shane on this one.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Yeah. I would have liked to hanging out with Shane
though we could have talked about beers.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Yeah. Yeah, we could have.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
Talked about other things while we weren't seeing anything A
couple of beers. Yeah, sometimes nothing to see is a
good thing
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tooth is the tooth with the iron mask, you know,
like like the movie they put iron in there.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
They said, dude, like, what the frick? Like, we didn't
make it to the crown.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
You destroyed your dentist as surfer.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
No, no, no, I was like, bro, is like, Bro,
you jacked your tooth totally up while we were waiting
for your permanent grown. Now we got to order you
a whole an entirely different crown for your tooth. You
know that isn't how he talks though he's super cool dude,
but he had to really do some work because I
(01:39):
fractured my tooth.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
This is gonna come off as sound like a d bag,
but I'm gonna go ahead and do it.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I'm very ignorant when it comes.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
To teeth, despite the fact that my father in law
is orthodonists. But I never asked questions about it, mostly
because I really don't care. But but like, what so
the crowns for a while, if you have a cavity
or something.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I had to get a root canal. Yeah, so they had, so.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
You get a root canal when again a cavity you
have something.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
No, they don't remove it. They just like drill to
the the nerve and then like yeah to the root. Yeah,
and then they like killed the nerve and then they
let it heal, and then they put a crown on it,
and it's like nothing ever happened, you know. But I
had a temporary crown on because I'm getting a gold
and I hear maybe that's the moral of the story.
(02:27):
I was, I'm getting a matching goal. A goal, yeah,
but it's in the back. It's in the back.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Why would okay, hold on, this is great, We're gonna
break the style. Why would you want to get a
gold tooth and that no one's going to see in
the back?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Gods, I can, right, but no one's ever gonna see it.
So what do you like them?
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I smile pretty big, que and I gotta I already
have one gold. Have you ever saw a gold tooth
in my in my mouth? Like when I smile, smile
enough around, shut up? Some people might see it, you know,
almost cursed on a.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Curve, look deep back in there. That's correct, that's correct.
So if you see it, if you see it, you
know it's because he.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Was really in my mouth. But I'm gonna get another
one on the opposite side of matching one. And I
was waiting on it. And while I was waiting on it,
I guess, I was. I was sitting around. I was.
I know, I'm not supposed to chew nuts, but I
wouldn't as I was chewing on nut clusters and then
(03:42):
I fractured my too. Okay, but which one can't be
a cashew? Cashews too? It was it was a cluster,
so it was almonds, it was cashws, it was sunflower seeds,
and it's like put together and like dar kind of
like that. But they're like they're keto. They're Keto though,
(04:05):
so they're pretty good. But yes, yes, And I was
just sitting there and I was chewing and I bit
and I felt it boom, like I fractured it too.
I didn't even know you could fracture too. I just
thought you break it, which a fracture is a break,
I guess, But I mean, I don't know. I'd never
heard that terminology used. And it scared me, you know.
I was sitting there and they were like, man, they
(04:26):
were going through the language of it and taking the
X rays and then they were like, yeah, da da,
there's such and such a bicuspics and this is that
one is fractured. I was like, fractured. Oh my gosh,
it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
My dadd has told me said, listen, nuts will get
you every time.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
He said, just relax. He said that a trick.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Is you can take almonds and you soak them in
water to make them some if you want to, uh,
if you still want to get your your almend fix.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Alright, this is the part of conversation where I have
the jump and so well, let's get the sports.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Come on, man, we were good until we started get
into the nuts conversations.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Too much nuts is not good for you.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
All right.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Well, you know, some would say that the Jets organization
is nuts. Some would say they've been nuts for quite
some time.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
The reason sometimes like a nut.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And apparently it was a nutty situation and departure for
Aaron Rodgers, who spoke yesterday on the Pat McAfee show
starring aj Hawk and Rogers decided to air out the
New York Jets and describe what the final meeting was
with Aaron Glenn with Aaron Moogie. This is entire situation debacle,
(05:45):
if you will. Here was Rogers breaking it all down.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
I figured they went.
Speaker 7 (05:49):
I flew across country on my own dime that there
was going to be a conversation, and twenty seconds in
he goes, I mean literally, I'm talking to the GM
about something and he leans to the to a sheet and.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Goes, should you want to play football?
Speaker 7 (06:03):
And I was like, yeah, I'm interested, and he said
we're going a different direction in quarterback and I was
kind of shocked. Now, not shocked because I didn't think
that was a possibility. Listen, of course they want to
move on. That's totally fine, but shocked because I just
flew across the country.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
You could have told me this on the phone.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
So I said huh, and he goes, we just want
to know how you want it released the messaging and
I said why And then he said, I don't want
to be up in front of the room saying something
and have guys looking back.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
At you interesting And I said, what does that even mean?
Speaker 7 (06:34):
Are you assuming that I would be in the back
of the room during the team meeting undermining what you're saying.
I said, you don't know me, and he said you
don't know me, and then I said exactly, which is
why I flew across the country to have a face
to face meeting with you to talk about my experience
with the Jets. What I thought was going to be
a couple hour meeting turned into like a fifteen minute
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meeting and I walked out of there.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
So there's your your final moments with the New York Jets.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
And was that a beef?
Speaker 4 (07:05):
You don't know me, homie. Look, man, you don't know.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
This has to look terrible for the Jets, right, Oh gosh, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I mean, because here's the reality of it.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
If if that's how you're willing to deal with the
guy wh's gonna be a first Battle Hall of Famer,
how do you feel like they're gonna deal with guys
who are on the back end of the roster? I
mean as a player, and I'm not saying that like
all players like Aaron Rodgers or all players even relate
to Aaron Rodgers. He seems to have a good rapport
with his teammates. But you sit there and go, this
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is how this, this is how the team's handling this
guy like he Now, mind you, he probably flew private
like his on his own dime.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
It's like that.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
It's not like the team's flying him there on his
jet to get there, which is a pretty penny if
you're coming from California to New York and back. Like
I would estimate, I don't know. Someone who's in the
industry would would probably correct me, tell me I'm wrong.
Minimum eighty thousand dollars hundred thousand just for that trip.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
There and back.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Minimum, that's probably what he's spent doing it. And to
not at least want to hear from a guy who's
won or Super Bowl won what four MVPs seems to
have a different perspective on the league, but could give
some insight to Aaron Glenn who's stepping into his first
opportunity as a head coach and doesn't know this organization,
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regardless of what anyone wants to say, doesn't note as
well as Aaron Rodgers. He's been there the last two years.
He's got a much better feel for the pulse of
Woodie Johnson how things have operated the past couple of
years than Aaron Glenn does. And he didn't want to
take the time just to pick his brand and talk
to him, even if he didn't want to see him
as his quarterback.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Right.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
It's kind of goes back to like the Bill Belichick
not getting more interviews, Like teams didn't even want to
take the opportunity when you had a legitimate chance to
take the opportunity to pick one of the greatest football
minds mind in an interview, even if you don't want
to hire him, just bring him into at least interview
him and see what we can get from him, right knowledge,
he'll be willing to give up and maybe pour into you,
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your organization, your leaders, whoever. And so for Aaron Glenn,
you didn't even want to do that. You're just gonna
jump right to the point. And I guess I understand
to a degree he doesn't want to waste his time.
But then to Aaron Rodgers' point, just give m a
phone call, Like if it's over like that, just give
him a phone call. This makes it look like the Jets,
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and LaVar has said it all along, our dysfunction, but
also now it looks even more like a clown show,
and it feels like you've got a head coach who, yeah,
maybe he has an idea of what he's trying to build,
but it almost makes it look even worse to how
this year is gonna go with Justin Fields as their quarterback.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
If things don't go well, it's.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
A disaster because you had a guy you could have
brought back, who's a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
And so if he goes somewhere else and plays.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Well and that team's in the hunt, or if that
and even then like forget that, that might be even
separate from if the Jets just fall apart become a
dumpster fire. He could be a one and done Like
these are some of the things that start to come
out in the media where it puts more and more
pressure and makes everyone question, is this guy maybe there's
a reason why it took him so long to become
a head coach. He's been a great decordinator, he's had
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a great reputation, But then you watch how he handles
this instance, this situation, I don't know, man, dysfunction, clown show,
whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
That's the right back of the Jets are again.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
I have a theory, and the theory is he is
acting off of off of the feelings of ownership. And
I've seen this happen before. I've been I've been a
party to Joe Gibbs falling victim to doing the same
exact thing. I was the leader of a team, I
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was the face of a of a team, of a
franchise of the town and due to a vendetta that
was apparently I wasn't really even aware of it, but
due to a vendetta of the owner and how he
turned his feelings on how he felt about me, he
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tasked someone else, because he's a coward. He tasked someone
else to be his henchman, and Joe Gibbs went for it.
He took the cheese, and his coward ass did the
same thing like head behind, you know, things he shot
in the head behind, and the conversations that he and
I were having, which was interesting because if media was
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where it was at right now, I'd have probably did
the same thing that Aaron Rodgers did and had the
conversation about it, and we probably be having the same
conversation about how you have a dysfunctional organization. I tend
to believe that Aaron Glenn and handling Aaron Rodgers was
totally doing with the influence of what he had already
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had got from and communicated with Woody Johnson in terms
of how they made him feel, in terms of what
they think took place with Aaron Rodgers in New York,
and Aaron Glenn was executing what his feelings were towards
the situation with Aaron Rodgers, and did that under the
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influences and the pretenses of what was fed to him
once he came to the New York Jets as their
head coach. So in a way, while we'll say, okay, maybe,
as a head coach, you don't allow for an owner
or corporate to dictate how you handle a situation. Keep
your emotions out of it. You are the head coach
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of this team. You have to manage the relationships with
these players differently. But that could be also tongue in cheek,
because we all know this is the man that hires you.
This could be the man that fires you, whether it's
a year, whether it's two years, whatever it may be.
And he's already showing signs of trying to pacify dysfunction.
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That's my theory. I don't think that Aaron Glenn would
have wanted to take the stance he took with Aaron Rodgers.
In fact, knowing Aaron Glenn, I would assume he would
want the best players on his team. I don't think
he had a choice. I don't think he had a
choice in the matter of keeping Aaron Rodgers on that
roster based upon the feelings that were going towards Aaron
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Rodgers and Aaron Glenn was tasked to make that one
of the first things that he handled once taking the job.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
So then Woody Johnson is still meddling in decisions, got it.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
I think the influence. I think the only way you
take because let's be clear, as former players, whether you're
a coach now, whether we just you know, whatever you're
doing in your life. When we see one another, we
greet each other a certain type of way. You're not
going to like, come out, You're not going to come
out a.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Guy, hold on, And what type of way is that?
It's different than anybody else, right.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
You say, hey, I come in. I kind of couple you.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
We greet each other very differently than everybody else. But
everybody else to us, aren't us. I mean that's I
if that, if I'm letting the fan base and people
in on a secret, I'm sorry to do that. It's
not that we think any less of you. It's just
that we don't think of you the same way we
think of one another.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
That's all. That's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Sorry you if you could give me the difference between
you and Jonas kind of seeing each other, Yeah, somewhere
on the street or whatever.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Then and you and I seen one another?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
All right. If I saw Gentinus, I'd be like, somebody,
what's going on? Brah? If I saw you, I'd be like.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
You, what's up? Damn?
Speaker 4 (14:59):
How your body feel? Kids?
Speaker 6 (15:01):
Is good?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Everything?
Speaker 6 (15:01):
Good? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (15:03):
Cool?
Speaker 4 (15:03):
All right?
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Man?
Speaker 4 (15:05):
I was good. I was gonna you know, and you
always say it's good to see you, like three four
times when you see somebody that played, you'd be like, man,
it's good to see you, bro, man, so good to
see you.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I was gonna point out like a racial component, but
you really buckled my knees when you went to Brady
on that.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Yeah, there's no real quick real quest's great Jonas, that
it exceeds race.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Did you see me on the street? Why do we
greet each other?
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Say again, how would that would me on the street?
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Hey hey Brady, little top gun, Hey hey little up
top Jonas, what's up? Hoss?
Speaker 4 (15:40):
That's football? That's football talk though you can't use hosts. Yeah,
but that's you know, that's like maybe high school. Yeah,
we're really trying hard to be a meathead. Yeah you
were trying. Yeah, that is sometimes cats like you try
to overcompensate because I want to be greeted that way.
But it's the same thing if I see LeVar. If
I see LeVar, I'd be like, so.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
That, you know, what's weird.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Every time I see Jonas and every time we walk
together from like the set during Radio rodor in Super Bowl,
I always am like, Man, if I had an oil can,
I would try to like just inject some oil into
Jonas's joints just to make him look a little smoother.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Man.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
It's just please, it's very rigid. It's a very rigid, stiff.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
That's vampire joints.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
That's not true.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
There's zero there's like zero skip, zero, limps, zero anything.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Because you get to where we go part. Yeah, I'm floating.
All I've got in my body is blood and it
ain't mine. You don't know the vampire life. You know
what we go through. You know. Here's here's what's so
funny about the Rogers discussion. So I'm seeing yesterday people
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are you know, laying in like, oh God, of course
it's everybody else's fault. And he's this and that and
he's pointing fingers and it's like I just want to say.
We're not talking about like a high functioning, well respected
history of great decisions and great moves and great we're
(17:20):
talking about the Jets. Yes, it's plausible that the meeting
happened exactly how it happened. It's not like Rogers has
been known to just lie. Okay, people could put oh, well,
you know the COVID stuff and all. No, you just
he found a loophole in his messaging and that's why
people are still bitter about it. But it's not like
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we're talking about oh well, this is just this is
an organization that is pristine and all they know is
success him saying it about them. So you're the one
guy who's got a problem with the way that they
handle things. There, No, we've seen this for decades. It's
the same story for decades. Insert quarterback. It's a disaster,
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drafted signed head coach. So like, when I hear the
pushback on things he's said, look, is he a little
bit arrogant?
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Is he a little bit aloof at times? Does he
want to control the messaging? Does he like the attention
but claim that he does? Probably, But it still doesn't
admonish the Jets from being palpable in this whole situation
whatever I'm trying to say, palpable in this whole situation,
that they're a disaster and they've been a disaster for years.
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And we've brought this point up before on our show
when the first couple of moves and couple of signs
are hey, we don't want any part of this. We're
Bill Belichick and Bill Parcells saying no, we're good here.
And that was before we had any sort of intel
or information on what Woody Johnson's era with the Jets
was going to be. That should have been the indicator. Okay,
(18:56):
maybe there's something wrong here. So the pushback on Roger
I don't get because it's the Jets. They've done this
for decades.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
And they didn't even play that bad. It's to me,
he's better than Justin Fields last year. He's better than
Justin Fields.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Can I point out for one instance, don't point out though,
where I think a lot of people have dug their
feet in and it's over as far as how they feel.
It's the whole vaccination thing. Yes, that was such a
polarizing issue that there's a lot of people who maybe
they're football fans, maybe they're not. But whenever you talk
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about politics, religion, things like that, and obviously the whole
vaccination deal it was polit a size and that's why
it became so polarizing. But the way he messaged the
immunized comment and how people took that and how this
people drew a line in the sand back then, and
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they've never been willing to concede on any of that.
I mean, this is like outside of a sports conversation,
Like the people who believed in the people who didn't.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
They drew a line and they're not ever willing to
cross that.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Like no one's even like even right now, regardless of
whatever report comes out, whatever side you were on, they're
sticking to that. They're like, there's no way you're going
to convince them otherwise. And unfortunately, like he put himself rightfully,
so he put himself in the middle of that with
how he handled that, and I think that actually might
be the most polarizing thing that has still followed him
to this day, outside of even how he's handled things
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with being so open and honest about, you know, things
in Green Bay and how the drafting of Jordan Love went,
or even his time with Brett Favre and everything else
up there, and now with the New York Jets and
everything else in his personal life that's become public, which
with the documentary.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
So to me, as much as he is very unique.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
As an athlete or as a quarterback in the NFL,
there's also an element of like that singular thing, to
me created the biggest divide for the people who are
either for Aaron Rodgers or like Aaron Rodgers or against them.
And it's kind of crazy when you think about it,
and people can say that's not true, but you're lying,
Like I see it. To this day, there's people who
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still have like ruined friendships on as close with their family.
There's all sorts of issues from that singular moment in
time with the way people kind of drew a line
in the sand, and they're not ever willing to cross
it and they're not ever willing to go back on
whatever happened back then.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
He never breaks character either though. That's I think that
that really irritates a lot of people. And if I
were a betting man, I would say the way Aaron
Rodgers conducts himself is an irritant to people. Like a
Woody Johnson, he does not break character. Oh yeah, and
he answers questions, especially almost as if it's like a riddle,
you know what I mean, Like he doesn't break character.
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He stays in that same well you know. And and
all I wanted to say was yep, I can't you
could have done at this by the phone. Well you
don't know me. Well you're right. And and that's why
I can't like the witty comments that the comebacks. It's
not it doesn't help. It doesn't help, Like show me
(22:12):
some emotion, like I'll beat trassed, Like what oh whoa
Aaron Rodgers said? What you know what I mean? Like
it is it is funny. Yeah, we they don't break character.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
It is funny how we pick and choose you know who.
We're still gonna punish for things that were done and
said five years ago during COVID.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
A long time ago. Yeah. Well, Woody Johnson ain't thinking
about the immunization. He's thinking about how Aaron rod tried
to ruin him. He tried to ruin me. No, he's
got there. You better get him.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Someone say he's got a vested interest, and somebody getting
I can't do it myself.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
You guys handle it.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
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Speaker 2 (23:02):
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Speaker 2 (24:57):
Hey, by the way, do we have an update on
the fan that was hit by a golf ball by
Billy Horschel yesterday at that tournament whatever the tournament.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Was, because thatth looked grotesque?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Did you see that, Brady? The guy Shinn who took
a golf ball while in the gallery and horn shot horse.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
I'm always a big fan though, I'm always a big
fan of those who are sticking it out, able to
kind of tough it out through it and basically providing
a backboard for professional golfers just in case they sprayed
a little bit outside of the fairway, there's always a
nice fan in there to help bounce it right back
in or at least stop it right there in the rough.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah. He So this guy got a golf ball straight
in the shin and Horsell went over. I think he
outlined it and then autographed his leg afterwards, and it
is revolting. So hopefully, hopefully that that gentleman is okay
and can continue on and join the tournament, you know,
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number two pick in the draft. The betting odds have
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indicated that Travis Hunter will be the pick at number two,
depending on if the Browns are picking there or not.
Who knows, but that is the expectation that as far
as the gambling odds go, that it could be the
Browns taking Travis Hunter, and so the GM of the
Cleveland Browns, Andrew Berry, spoke about Travis Hunter's skill set
and also compared him to one of the all time
(26:40):
great talents that we are currently watching.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
That number two pick is that's kind of how he's viewed.
Is the guy that can do both versus just is
one side of the No, I don't see it that way.
I think it's and I'm going to use a crossburn now.
It's a little bit like Otani right where you know,
when he's playing one side, he's an outstanding player.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
If he's a pitcher.
Speaker 8 (26:59):
He's a hitter, he's an out the only player you
obviously get a unicorn if you use them both ways.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
All right, so he's getting the comp. He hasn't played
in the that's not a good yes, not a good comp.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Why not? Well, because what is otan? What does Otani
play when he's not being a picture?
Speaker 6 (27:16):
Well?
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Well done? Yeah, that was more so his mean he
doesn't need that's like that. That's that sneaky shot. They're like,
why do you go down? How do you all? Is
right there? Brady with an undercut, you know, just a
little something, a little under underneath.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
I don't know, I'll say, is his normal position is
not picture correct?
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Doesn't he pay like shortstop or something?
Speaker 5 (27:46):
No?
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Yeah, no, he's a d H d H picture. You
know he's not a picture all the time. Well, he's
not a picture. Don't be miss miss like leading.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Here's why I you know, if you want to say
it's not a fair comp, first of all, because Travis
Hunter hasn't done anything in the league yet, But also.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Don't don't do that.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
No, I'm just saying no, I'm just saying he is that.
We have no idea if it's going to work. Out,
and if it's the Browns, who knows.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Well, that's even more true. But Otani he's working to
come back. He is hoping to pitch at some point
this year, and he's a great hitter. And so these
baseball players play both sides. They NBA or you know basketball,
they play both sides, right, like you play offense and
you play defense.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
We've never seen anybody be able to pitch and hit
the way Otani has.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Yeah, but they go both ways. They do both well. No,
I'm not saying that's you know what I mean, like
the defense. Yeah, it's not a fire for you to
do both and in football. So that's why I say
it's a poor comp But I get what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
You're basically saying, like, for example, if we're counting pitching
his defense right in baseball, which it would be correct,
it'd be like him playing pitcher and catcher like, and
then Travis Hunter playing cornerback in d end right, Like,
that's in essence what you're saying. I'm saying, you play
both quarterback and also a wide receiver quarterback d n White, Dane,
(29:13):
I mean, I mean that's the equivalent of show Hey, Yeah,
but I would I just think that with with Travis Hunter,
you're getting a unicorn. If he can play at a
high level and play here here, here's the thing. Right,
If you play on that cornerback and he can become
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an All Pro, that is phenomenal in itself.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Period. If he plays receiver and can become an All Pro,
that is phenomenal period. You know, some of the greatest
players who have ever played this game only have like
like a handful or less than a handful of first
team All Pro bids. Right, So if you you're good
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enough to be an All Pro player and on that
list at your position, that's phenomenal. Now, if you have
that type of talent, are we are we adjusting our scope?
Are we saying, Okay, he.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Should be an All Pro corner but just be a
serviceable receiver, or should he be an All Pro receiver
and be a serviceable cornerback?
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Like what are we looking? How are we? Because again
the conversation that we had the other day when we
were debating, and I know you said you know his status,
we looked up his stat lines or you looked up
his stat lines Q and made the point because I
think t mac is is a guy that is special
at the receiver's position. But the point is is that
if you believe that he can be an elite playmaking
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receiver where he goes number two overall in the draft,
are you expecting him to do that at both positions
or is it just one? Because I think that plays
a major part in all it is. Is it both
ways or is it just one and serviceable to the other.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Well, here's what I'd say, is right if we look
at the draft.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
And people always say, oh, you get a fifty percent
chance of getting hit on a guy in the first round, right,
people will say that, well, technically, if he plays two positions,
gotta get fifty percent chance.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
At either one.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
And so I think the position versatility or flexibility is
where the value comes in. Is if you think he
can be like he was in college, a top wide
receiver and or a top cornerback, then it increases your
odds of hitting on that pick, of getting a guy
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that is maybe a gold jacket guy at one of
those two positions. Now, if it ends up being both, great,
But from just a pure odds betting standpoint, if you're
a betting man and you're saying I can increase my
odds of this player being an impactful players starter, pro bowler,
All Pro Hall of Famer at one of two positions.
(32:04):
It takes some pressure off of you, right, I mean,
you could play him a wide receiver if things aren't
going as well, put him at cornerback. Like I think,
I have a hard time believing that one of those
two isn't going to stick for him, at least based
on what I've seen on tape. Again, I keep going
back to I think his natural fit for me, and
this is just more of watching him play both. And look,
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don't get me wrong, he's got natural instincts as far
as a ball catcher, a great hand, eye coordination, suddenness,
and his route running. But he's still very raw with
his route running and that's something that takes time to
develop whether you're Travis Hunt or any other wide receiver.
But as a cornerback, he just has a feel for
the game and how he sees the game and how
he sees the quarterback and how that you know, and
(32:49):
different route combinations. I just I feel like that position
comes to him more naturally. And so all I'm saying is,
if you could take someone who improves your chances of
it being a hit. As a general manager, that goes
on your resume to showcase to the owner and everyone
else that.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Hey, this is you know, this was a hit.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
This was another another hit, another one that worked out
for me as a general manager. You're gonna take that guy.
So I don't know which will end up playing on it.
Maybe the Browns will do both, like maybe Thot'll be
part of the intrigue for twenty twenty five. If this
is a team that's still at the bottom of the
AFC North because of the quarterback situation, at least you're
selling one of those dynamic players we've ever seen, potentially
(33:32):
in his rookie season, trying to play both ways.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
There's something to be said for that.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
If he's listed as both ways, how are you going
to pay him?
Speaker 5 (33:43):
How do you have to worry about You don't have
to worry about that for at least three more years,
But how do you do you pay him for both positions?
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Because that's a roster he's if he is a full
time receiver and he's a full down corner.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Your your CBA, the draft, the rookie draft, sellar pool.
So it doesn't really have anything to do with you know. Now,
now we're where he'll get a bonus is his play
snap percentage. So remember, because even when he's paid as
a rookie, he'll get a huge bonus at the end
of the year if he's playing both ways because of
the amount of snaps. He's playing on both sides of
(34:17):
the ball. So that's where he'll be able to cash
in on that. And that's where the en You know,
NFLP has done a good job and trying to reward
guys who aren't being paid as much, and especially as rookies,
but they're playing a lot, so it's at least covered
a portion of that gap. And I understand what you're saying,
but that's three years away. That's that's the first opportunity.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
That man became an All Pro on both sides of
the ball as a receiver and as a corner, which
we've never seen that happen ever before. How are you
going to pay that man?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Let me ask you, because I think it's along the
lines of what you were thinking, LeVar, but i'll kind
of throw it at you.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Guys. If he was just a wide receiver, is he
in consideration for the number two pick? No? No, If
he was just there's no receiver being considered, right, So.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
If he was just a corner, would be would he
be in consideration for the number two pick.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
No, that's a good way of putting cause I would
say yes, though I would say yes in that regard.
I say he's not a top five pick at corner.
I think he's more like Will Howard.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Is a Will Howard who the corner out of Mill Johnson,
Will Johns Will Johnson. I say he's more like that,
He's more in that that category. Then again, no, I
take that back. I take I take that back. I
take that back because I'm thinking about Champ Bailey or
he's on the level of I mean, actually, yeah, he's
on the level of a Charles Woodson more so than
even a Chant Bailey. I mean he's in that category
(35:39):
of players. So yes, yes he would. So I'll put
it this way.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
If I think, I think he's the best corner, and
I do think in a class that by the way,
it's not a great wide receiver class. So between t
mac luth Burden, you know, Matthew Gold's got a lot
of buzz in Texas because he's so fast. You know,
I don't know that you go and watch the tape
and say, like, can he come in and be in
meet at number one? And that's what you're usually drafting
him to be. So it's kind of interesting. But I
(36:06):
think he's one of the best, if not the best,
in the wide receiver class too, So it all depends
on how you view him. But I think as a
cornerback without a doubt. As a wide receiver, it might
be partially due to the wide receiver class though too.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Yeah, he's a top he's a top five pick. He's
a top five pick at cornerback. I'm not going to
go I'm not going to go that far at receiver. Cornerback.
He's tough, fat pick.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah, it's well, it looks like it'll be in Cleveland,
So it would behoove them to try and maximize his abilities,
Like if you've got that sort.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Of talent, would it?
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:41):
All right? Eitherwise, you know, am I losing sooner? All right?
It is the Dan Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
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Dan and the guys coming up next here, though, the
fakes are being exposed, they are being called out, and
they are being punished in the world of football.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
We've got the proof right here at fso.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
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Speaker 2 (37:10):
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LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you. Coming off
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somebody is discussing a real issue in the NFL when
it comes to quarterbacks drafted early on these days.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
We'll get into that for a year on FSR. I
can't believe you had just.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Dismissed my caring like you are ridiculous, Bro, If you
could have heard what this man just said during the
break you.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
I can't. I can't even Brady, I'll tell the royalty
that he was talking about that that Travis Hunter would
be collecting on It's it's ridiculous what he said, Bro,
I know this.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
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Speaker 1 (38:13):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing, the guys are here to
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Speaker 2 (38:23):
And for that we turn it over to our executive
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Speaker 10 (38:27):
Good morning everybody, Good morning Jonas, Good morning LeVar, Good
morning Brady.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Guys.
Speaker 10 (38:32):
In case you miss this, the NCAA is finally cracking
down uh. The Playing Rules Oversight Panel has decided that
they're in stating a new rule that that states that
teams will be charged with a timeout if a player
requires medical attention after the ball is spotted by an official.
If they don't have any remaining, they will be hit
with a five yard delay of game penalty.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
This is of course, to.
Speaker 10 (38:52):
Weighe off players feigning injuries at the end of games.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
How's this going to be determined? And they're going to
just go over and like, oh, you say you're CAF hurts.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Yeah, because they're gonna they're gonna know if so.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Here's the deal.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
If the balls marked all right, because what happens is
usually in a hurry up scenario or when the team's
playing up.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Tempo, somebody of cramp or something some.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
Well, and what they'll do is, though they they move
the ball on field and they get the call in
from the sideline right like they're they're trying to slow
down the offense. So the defense will like make a
call from the sideline and that's when they'll then see
a player go down.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Right, That's what they're trying to eliminate.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
You know, most guys when they get hurt, they're probably
gonna be down on the ground, you know, having an issue,
or they might you know, go back down and kind
of take a knee rather quickly.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
What they're trying to eliminate is the.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
Stuff where a guy you know, gets up, he's running back,
looks over and everyone sees it on TV, but maybe
not on the field or people are at the game.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Then the guy goes down and exactly like he has
an injury.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
So that's why they're trying to say, look, once the
medical people come out, that dude's got to come off,
and they're charge the timeout and all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
So I like the rule, I will be curious to
see how the implement it.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Though the delay will be hard, but delayed reaction is uh,
it's always well done.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
They're gonna be aware of this, the coaches is gonna
be because the coaches being on this, on on this
as well, just so you know, so they there's actually
time where you practice these reps. They're gonna they're gonna
get ahead of the rule like that. It's not it's
gonna be predetermined, and predetermined has always been a part
of it. Anyway. Every once in a while you get
(40:31):
a dude that's too tired to get his fat ass
up and get going again, and so he'll he'll fake
the worm and hit the ground. But for the most part,
if you're trying to slow it down or whatever it
may be, they'll say this is a two minute like
situation there, or they're in a two minute style offense, this,
that and the other. They'll signal like you'll have a
(40:51):
signal to know that somebody needs to go down, and
you'll know who the designated person is. So it'll be
interesting to see if the rule can can govern it.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
I mean, you're trying to out the validity of a
Charlie horse in this day and age again, how do you.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
Know if it's real or not? Like it's almost like, okay,
well he's got to stay out, you know, the rest
of this series or something like that.
Speaker 10 (41:12):
In fact, the American Football Coaches Association did try to
implement that that a player would have to sit out.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
The entire That makes that makes more sense, and that
makes more sense.
Speaker 10 (41:22):
They say they'll come down with a supplementary discipline if once,
if they review it and they figure out that it's fake,
well there you go.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
How much you get better electrolytes? And this one happened.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
I blame them. I blame the training staff. They should
be held accountable. Next guy that gets a cramp that
they call fake, that trainer should be fined and suspended
for the next two games.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Tang All right, well what else is well? Guys about this?
I don't have time to play it for you.
Speaker 10 (41:50):
But Shane Gillis talked about his time at the Masters,
said he was really trying to get into it, but
he couldn't see a damn thing. He replaced that I
was Shane on this one.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Yeah. I would have liked to hanging out with Shane
though we could have talked about beers.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Yeah. Yeah, we could have.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
Talked about other things while we weren't seeing anything A
couple of beers. Yeah, sometimes nothing to see is a
good thing
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