April 18, 2025 • 41 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Brian Noe & Geoff Schwartz fill in for the guys and talk about legendary broadcaster Lee Corso retiring from 'College Gameday', whether or not it would be a good idea to trade up to draft Cam Ward (or trade down if you're the Titans), and much more!
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to you, Jeff Schwartz. Of course, how about a legend
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about to step away? That would be Lee Corso. So
after thirty eight years, he is going to be retiring
from ESPN's College Game Day, his final appearance will be
on August thirtieth. That'll be the last show he does
and then he rides off into the sunset. What a
career though, dude, we're talking four decades over here and
(01:30):
universally loved. It's been a great run for Corso. He
is one of a kind. He's kind of like you
can't replace Charles Barkley on TV. You can't replace Lee
Corso on TV either. There's just one guy.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yeah, good morning Brian, Good morning everyone. And you know
they're trying obviously to do that with with one of
the new hosts there. The thing about Corso that stood
out through all the years, and that thing is important
to discuss, is he loved ball, Brian. Yeah, like it
came through so much. He loved ball and he had
(02:04):
fun with football, right, and those things sometimes I didn't
get lost when you cover the sport, right, like football,
Playing sports is fun. Okay, Like I have young kids,
we played the DNA tell them all the time. Yeah,
wins and losses. Yeah, you want to win, you want
to you want to play well, But like, did you
have fun today? You know, did you enjoy playing sports?
(02:25):
Because sports should be fun and Leekorso made covering an
intense sport. Football is intense, right, It's violent, it's physical,
it matters to a lot of people in this country.
And he made it fun men. And and I I
I work for ESPN's ri I will come over for
(02:47):
Fox Sports. I've switched over to watch Big New Kickoff.
I mean I like the show. I know people on
the show, working people in the show, and I still
do make my way over and maybe take a peek
at the head gear that course Will puts it every week,
like you know, like it. It is a lot of fun, right,
And I think even for a guy like myself, an
organ guy, and I know you're a ner name guy,
like he enjoyed putting on the organ, uh you know duckhead.
(03:11):
He enjoyed dressing up like the mascot for the Irish,
like those things as fans sucked you in right like
I didn't. I'm I don't Lee Corso is talking about offense.
I don't get he is fun man, like they have
other people in the show. I think the roles in
that show, Brian, you know Herbie is the football analytics guy, right,
you know, the film breakdown guy, and my analytics is
(03:34):
probably the wrong word the film breakdown guy, right, Desmond
Howard sort of in between, and then you have Corso,
who just is there a talk ball man, just have
fun talking ball and he will be far missed. There's
nothing you cannot replace him. There's I know they're what
they're trying to do right now. I don't think that's
a replacement for Lee Corso. I get the po of McAfee,
(03:57):
and I get like why he's there. His energy is
fantastic stick but he's a showman, right, like he's a
WWE guy, right and he enjoys that. That's not what
Corso was. So, man, what what a run for Corso?
And looking I think also too, like when you leave
something after that long, you would like the people that
(04:18):
you worked with to say the things they've said the
last couple of days. Right, Fouler put out video yesterday,
Herbie put out of video yesterday. There Herban was like
in tears nearly right, like, yeah, so legendary run. I
imagine what they're probably in Texas Ohio state to open
the season, and that's week one and that would be
uh week one this year in Texas Ohio state.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
That right, let me see real fast.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
But you know so I'm curious actually where he goes
because I know the Irish, don't they host Miami week one? Yeah, yeah,
I feel like that that could be a you know,
put on the Irish, you know, the the the mascot
suit one more time. But that's the thing. It's like, dude,
I can'ess just enough, like the just the like, Yeah,
(05:01):
he says things sometimes that weren't politically correct. So he
called that one kid a midget one time. Not great.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
When he was grabbing headgear one time, he was like
f it, like give me this other head gear and
it's like Lee.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Great, but like Brian great, like enjoy it. Enjoy Ball's
fun then, and so what a legend hopefully gets, he'll
get a proper send off. It's gonna be an emotional
show and uh, you know it is been building, right,
We've seen his his health decline over the years. He's
ninety years old, man, she says, fine around the country.
(05:38):
The show is physically.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Taxi for college game day.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Man.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
He was absolutely made for that show. And it's he'll
be missed, there's no doubt about that. But I didn't
think about that too. They're probably betting odds, but like
what headgear is going to dress up at like which
school to close the close it down, right. I didn't
even think about that aspect.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Curious what I'm curious actually what they do? You know,
they could do, you know, sometimes they just go to
a random place because it fits, like what the penis.
But Week one, you know, college football. This year we
have some some good matchups and so I do like
that about the sport now that that we have a
little bit, you know, because the playoffs twelve games, we
get some of these good non conference games early the
seasonless people don't care anymore, you know.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
You know, think about this too, though, Jeff, You're right.
So August thirtieth, it is Ohio State hosting Texas. Yeah,
and this was the very first head gear that he
put on. He chose Ohio State. Yeah, so it was
like I forget, like ninety three or something like that.
It was a long time ago, obviously, but it was
because Kirk Krbstreet's wife had access to like Brutus's head
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you know, like the head gear or whatever. Like that's
how it started. And he put it on after because Herbie.
He chose Ohio State to win the game, like twenty
four to thirteen or something, and then Lee Corso sort
of doubled and put the head gear on, and everyone
just laughed and they were like, this kind of works.
This could be a thing. And he had like four
(07:08):
hundred in some games putting on head gear after that.
But that's where it began and that's where it could end. Also,
it's in putting on the brutus head gear. That's probably
the way it's gonna go.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Uh here it is. I pulled the graphic right now, mate,
here's be a little bit sill. Okay, four hundred and
thirty mascot headgear picks of all time. He picked sixty
nine different teams. If you were to guess that the
most headgear selections by team, the top five, I think
number one's pretty easy.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
But he was huge on Notre Dame. I know they've
got to be in the top No, they're.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Not the top five.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
They're not in the top five. Wow.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
So Ohio State's one, Bama's two. Okay, so ahise it's
forty five selections, which is insane. I mean that's a
good they've been right forty five times.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I'll be in the thirty eight LSU twenty five four
to twenty two, Oregon twenty one. He loved Organ dude. Wow, yeah,
new to the scene, Like this is you know, how
about this which team as multiple picks and no losses?
There's three of them, but there's one team that he's
picked seventeen times without a loss seventeen Wow.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I don't know, I really don't know what the answer
to that.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Would be The USC Trojans.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Wow, he's undefeated with.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
SC Now that was probably like us, he didn't, you know,
you know, there's Pete Carroll teams. By the way, I've
been another show used to do We If you Lendel
White often and what a character. But he said something
that I actually thought was was not even accurate, but
I looked it up and he's right. Of course, the
USC didn't lose a football game for nearly three years.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Right yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Like with Pete Carroll, which is kind of like you
feel about You're like what three years? I mean, and
they like lost I think early two thousand and three
and then didn't lose again until the Texas game at
the end of the five season. Like so he probably
to seven of those games. I mean, he just he's
been able to pick the USC eight here during that time,
so man four hundred and thirty mascot head gear pick.
(09:10):
So I love how they put his record on here,
like it like it actually means anything. He took the
home team every time, basically.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
But the other thing too, is you think about how
negative things are now, right you think of social media.
You just take a peek at social media and you're like,
that's negative. That's really negative. That's disturbingly negative. Oh yeah,
And I don't think it ever got that way with
Corso he's kind of like a safe space, you know
what I mean, Like you just didn't have people in
(09:39):
bulk talking trash about him, which I love. And listen,
he had a stroke in two thousand and nine and
it affected the way that he spoke, and the last
sixteen years he's kept on going on. Yeah, And I
just I really like that he's gotten his flowers the
way he has because he's been huge for the game.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yeah. And I think that to your point about negativity,
Like you know, I search social media when something big happens,
like there's there's there's nothing, man, and and there's nothing,
there's there's no there's just no negativity. I mean, yeah, again,
did he say things sometimes that weren't politically correct. Sure,
(10:21):
but he's ninety years old, so I mean that's that
happens when you get to a certain age. But again,
the dude, what you just I remember just all the
things about Oregon when when game day showed up. I mean,
how big as a student, as a player, how big
it was when game day came to your campus and
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you'd sit there and you typically had a later games
you're able to watch in the hotel room. We'd all
have we'd all have the show on. We'd all wait
to see his head gear pick, and it just was
cool man to see, like a show TV. A little
old Organ. I remember, guys Or is good now, but
when I was there, we were just starting to get good,
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and we weren't good for one hundred years before that.
So like it got people pretendly Organ it's been good.
Organ has been good for like twenty five years, that's it.
And that was mostly when it's you know two, it's
starting about two thousand, right, Oregon didn't win their first
Bowl game to like nineteen eighty nine. Brian, I think
people the amount of ball games Organ played between the
beginning of the program in nineteen ninety four, it was
like ten that was it. That was it? Ten Bowl games.
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We've obviously played in like twenty five since then, So
you know, like seeing Oregon Man in two thousand and four,
twosand and five on national TV like that with with
his head gear on was like just like validation, you know,
like man, we're we're making moves, you know, and it
was special for that for him to do that. So
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really just fantastic career. And you know, I know that
he will he'll do that one last show, probably a
pretty emotional show, I would imagine. And yeah, then you know,
the there's no rep I hope that they don't try
to replace him, which I think they're not gonna do. Uh.
McAfee's a different energy than yeah orso, you know, the
(12:12):
showmanship of McAfee, you know, the wwe like like his
he's a great showman. Obviously a much different style than Corso.
And I hope that if that's the replacement permanent, that
that's great. Like he McAfee does his own thing, but
there's no replacing Corso. The head here thing should be
retired forever. That's not just not happening ever again.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah and yeah, let let it.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Let it let it die.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah, that would be really tough. He'd feel almost wrong
for a long time. I don't know if it would
ever feel right. But yeah, it's only him. Like that's
the thing is I love Nick Saban, but he's not core.
No one's cours So Like Nick Saban's like a librarian
compared to Corso. You know, you can't have just some
even like a zany fun even like Mike Leach when
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he was alive, he was a character, he could do
something like that. There aren't that many people that could
do something similar to Corso. But yeah, you're probably just
gonna retire it and let like let McAfee do his
thing and go in a slightly different direction and have
fun with that.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Because look, look the McAfee clip of him singing so
Georgia fight song and then and then saying go Alabama
or the vice versa. It was like incredible, incredible moment.
He's taking a whole fight song for one team and
then it said screw it, I'm taking the other team.
Like it was. It was great theater, but obviously it's
a much different vibe than with Corso. And you know,
(13:38):
I do wonder, like how long Herpestreet will do the
show without Corso. I wonder if this show kind of
goes with some changes now, you know, just remember too,
like Corso played college football, he coach college football. I mean,
this has been his life for all these years, has
been college football. So I remember, Like I'm looking to
social media right now. I mean, there's not a single
tweet that's negative, even even even the midget comment, Like
(13:58):
people don't even really they think that's the funniest thing
he ever said on the show. So for those who
missed it, it was like they were I even know. I
think they were actually at organ and he there was
a little kid on the show and it was a
Harvard Yale pick, like so he got sequential and he's
like he's like he's like not so fast, midget. He's like, whoa,
(14:20):
what are we doing? What are we doing? But even that,
like people find you know, like it's one of those
things with the old person you're like, ah lol, guy,
he just kind of like said, yeah, silly.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
That's funny too. Like reading some of these stories about Corso,
like you forget because he's done game day for so long.
Some people know him just from that.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
He was some people know him a little, did that
he said that he made that comment.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Oh comic, But he's been there for thirty eight years.
There are a lot of people that don't know him
from anything other than that. But one of the stories
I read was talking about his career as a player
at Florida State.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Coach.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, he's from fifty three to fifty six. He was
a player. He played on both sides of the ball.
This is like Travis Hunter of the fifties, but close.
He led Florida State and interceptions in fifty four, rushing
yards in fifty five and then passing yards and punt
returns in fifty six. It's like, what, Yeah, how in
(15:21):
the world did that happen? He's still number three on
FSU's career interceptions list. He's still number three over there
at FSU.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Like, wow, look, Loo look like he was a legit
coaching player, I think, And yeah, I get Look my kids,
you know, my kids are ten and eight, and you
know we we're in sports land now on Saturdays. But
I don't even know whether alt time I've been home
at twelve eastern on a Saturday for without the football season,
went flag football and fall baseball and softball, whatever. But
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I still try to put on if I can for
my kids to see, because those are the things that
get their attention, you know, is the head gear and
the fun of that moment, even though they might not
be into watching a two hour three hours and that's
a three hour preview of the actual games of the week.
To be fair, I don't watch it either. I like
to watch the beginning of the show where they sort
of show like the home crowd and talk about the
(16:15):
game in hand, and I just turned off and put
it back on again at twelve o'clock to see the
head gear pick in between. I don't need that in
my life anymore. But you know, my kids enjoyed it
when they got and they got to watch it too,
because it was quite unique to see him put on
an organheader Oklahoma Sooner thing or do the Florida chop.
I mean, it's all it's all fun.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah, yeah, And it didn't seem like a lot of
people took it too seriously, which was good, right because
in this day and age. I remember I got to
talk to the late Craig Sager one time, yeah, and
I asked him about like the crazy outfits that he
wore and he said when he covered March Madness, when
he covered the NCAA tournament, he wore a lot of
(16:55):
like muted neutral colors because he was like, if I
wear like a red blaze or all these like you
know whatever, North Carolina fansil like you're rooting for Wisconsin.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
We know you.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
So he tried to wear a lot of neutral stuff.
And so like with Lee, with Lee Corso, you would
think if he put on the headgear of whatever team,
the other fan base is like, he doesn't like us.
It didn't seem like it ever got there. You know.
People just laughed and went along with it.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
I think it was it was It's not like he
was not he wasn't making a game pick as much
as he was just having fun with the moment. I
think that's like the difference, right, Like the other guys
on the show are making game picks, right right, I
was just having fun, Like he's just doing the most
fun thing he came in that moment. So that's why
I think too no one really cared. And also he
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would choose. I would imagine if you've been on the
show five times, you've been chosen once or twice, you know,
part of it as well. So yeah, what a what
a legend and a good person too. I I don't
really know. I mean, we haven't heard any stories otherwise.
So Ray careculations to Corso on the incredible career, and
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uh now we can all watch Big Nick Kickoff.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
There. I like it, A good good plug for Fox,
you know, love that.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
I like Bigger Kickoff though I do watch it. I
do watch it, so it's a good show.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
There. You go, very nice, all right. He's Jeff Schwartz.
I'm Brian No. Coming up next, your answers to these
two questions will reveal the path one team should take
going forward. Right NFL Draft, Right around the corner, two
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Technical producer. Hello, Dua Lipa always makes me think of Lorena.
(19:21):
You know why that is? This is why that is.
I was filling in for Ben Maller months ago and
Lorena off the air. She says, Dua Lipa is a
very tall woman. Oh, it's just on the very very
very tall woman and I'm like, wow, how tall? I
didn't really like six Tuesday? May it sound like she's
(19:44):
like five?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
No, she does. I'll be obviously wear heels. What she
performs hurt.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
And that's the thing is the platforms. It throws me off.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Yeah, her performances have gone a little a little different
over the years. I'm I guess I've enjoyed the videos
I see.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, I love me.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
They've changed. Yeah, my kids, My kids are very much
in the Dupa.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Two year over. You know all this stuff.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Yeah, we've had this take before. I remember about all
our songs sound close to this.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, you guys are terrible. At least one album sounds
the exact same.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Not every song, A lot of the new stuff sounds
exactly the same. But the amount of music that I
listen to now that I just like, I get when
my parents should just say, like I just what do
you listening to? Buddy? I now I sort of get
it now. Not that I don't want to listen to
(20:41):
the same eight songs over and over again, but like,
I've had enough Morgan Walling in my life. My daughter
just will it's it's twenty four to seven.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I've Morgan coming right up.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
I've had I've had enough Morganwalling in my life. I
not that the music's I just I've had enough, but
I will probably I think I'm driving home from the
beach today and I will be with the kids for
three and a half hours driving home, and I imagine
they want to listen to TikTok radio and it's just
gonna be the same eight songs over and over and
(21:17):
over again. That you know, Oh boy, I get it now,
I get I get my parents now. I was listening
to like, you know, you know, uh, you know, one
oh five nine. My mom had to suffer through that,
I think for a little bit.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
But what was that what what kind of what kind
of music was on there?
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Hip hop, R and B. I don't think. I don't
think that she expected that to come like when I
was a teenager. But that's where I certainly was at
PARA six.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
So it uh, you know, we got okay, so I
forgot you're from the LA area. So that was like big.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Boy, big oh yeah, big boy in the morning. The
the the pranks that he did that he called.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
He had his tay care some are really good.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Yeah, he called he had his three characters and he dude,
he called this one lady one time. I'm sure I
could find it on the internet. He and he said
he was a delivery man who was delivering stuff to
her apartment and she got so angry. It was like
seven to ten every morning driving a score. It was
(22:22):
so funny.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Oh my, yeah, I remember some of that because yeah,
what it is, Liz, I remember all that stuff? Yeah,
sure to wait, Yeah he did, he did, absolutely, he did,
no doubt.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
All right.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
So I got a couple of draft questions to throw
your way here. Yeah, okay, So I was thinking about
the Titans and they have the first pick, and so
it seems like it's just a done deal that they're
going to go with quarterback cam Ward, And so I
started thinking about that, and I thought, if you're the Browns,
if you're one of these other teams that needs a quarterback,
(22:56):
is it a good idea to trade up to get
cam Ward? That's the first question. Is it smart for
the Browns or another team to trade up to number one?
What would you say to that?
Speaker 4 (23:07):
So this is always an interesting discussion because, Okay, so
I've been thinking about this. This is not really a
take for a while, but it's kind of interesting. So
if you're just to grade the players, right, and I
don't grade players, but you know people that do, cam
Ward at sh Dear Sanders are below the top six
(23:32):
quarterbacks drafted last season, Okay, it would be below like
just straight great if you're grading you know, one hundred
to zero essentially, right, Like let's say bo Nicks was
eighty nine and Penix was a ninety whatever, Like they're
below that, right, they're in eighty eight, eighty seven, whatever
it is. But the position is so valuable, right, Brian,
that sometimes you ignore the grade because you need that
(23:53):
position filled, right, quarterback position. So this is where the
discussion the trade the discussion about trade. It's interesting to me,
right because the Browns like Camboard. I think it's no
surprise the Browns like Camboard. But is he good enough
to trade future first round picks for now? If he
(24:15):
hits absolutely good enough? Right, because that changes your franchise
if you do the quarterback Okay, if he's not, you
turn into the Niners whose roster could use the three
first round picks they traded away for trade lance. You know,
like that's you end up being right. So, but you
also get a situation where like you're the to your
Tennessee and because cam is the only option, you fall
(24:41):
in love with him and overvalue him because he's the
only option at quarterback, right. And that's why I think
where we're at right now, where the Browns went want
cam Ward. I I don't think it would be smart
to trade up for him for the reasons I mentioned.
(25:02):
But he's the only person at the dance, you know,
like you yeah, you know, and and you need someone
to dance with, and maybe they want to do that.
It does seem like, I mean, there was the thing
the other day cam wore did a I think he
was playing video games or he's something where he was
asked like his top wide receiver in the NFL. He
listened both Tennessee Titans first, like Eddie he thinks he's
(25:24):
going to in the Titans, and like best running back Pollard,
Pollard the best running back. He listened like Calvin Ridley
and and who's other whoever? Did not Burkes, who's the
other guy out of Tennessee. He listened to them like
like one and two. It was very It's very very yeah, yeah, yeah,
very funny. So I think he knows it's gonna be
(25:45):
a Tennessee Titan. But your point, like I would say
that the Browns are in this spot because of Deshaun Watson.
Obviously from that decision, do you make a second, maybe
crippling quarterback decision, you know it would sit height. I
just don't think standers is will be fine at two
for them. It does feel like they're gonna pass on that.
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And maybe you know, Travis Hunter plus Tyler Shuck is
better than so there are standards plus Luther Brn top
of the second round. I don't think something like that right,
And that's part of the draft equation, guys. You have
to think about the draft is a full seven rounds,
not just round one, right, So what I mean by
that is what I just said. Let's say that Browns
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want wide receiver and quarterback with their first two picks,
So you gotta think about what's what's better for your
team Travis Hunter. Plus let's say Tyler Shuck top of
the second round, the Louisville quarterback, Texas Tech, and Organ
quarterback all three. But Tyler Shuck is one one month
older than Trevor Lawrence. I think he saw like he's
played a lot of football, or or maybe Quinn Yours
(26:51):
top of second round. Jalen Milroll going to the draft,
Brian kind of spooks me. And we're drafting Jayleen Milroll early.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Well, I don't know if he's gonna be a first
round pick, but it is interesting that he's gonna be there.
But that's the thing. Let me go through this exercise
with you at first, you know. So with cam Ward,
is it a good idea for a team to trade
up for him? I say no, even if it's the
Browns at too, Like, that's still gonna be a good
amount of compensation to move up even one spot for
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the number one overall pick. That that's a lot to
give up, and I have too many questions about cam Ward?
Is he gonna pan out? Is he going to be
a true franchise quarterback. That's just too heavy of a
price tag when I have that many questions, and his
decision making has been too shaky too often. He's been
a blend of spectacular and playmaking ability, but questionable decision making.
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And I think the price tag's too high. So the
first part of this is no, I don't think it's
a good idea to trade up for cam Ward. Now
flip that around, if another team actually were interested in
trading up for cam Ward, would it be a smart
idea for the Titans to trade down? That's another part
of it. What do you think about that they get
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an offer? The offer is in, you get all these hey,
we're gonna give you this pick and that pick, and
what do you think what would be your response there?
If you're the Titans just ballparking what that trade package
would look like.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I think as a general draft strategy, trading down is
never wrong, okay, because you're just accumulating more picks, and
in a draft like this draft where you know the
the premium players are not many, And I actually do
funny thing about this draft, Like I was talking to
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a personnel guy the other day, they have they have
six premium players essentially on their on their draft board,
and I think the six do not even include cam Ward, Right,
you look at Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter, Mason Graham, uh
Will Campbell gent that's five or six. I don't Yeah,
I don't think cam Ward was even part of the six.
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I think there's one of their membu maybe, like Kim
Wore is not even part of that sixth guy. He So, yeah,
I think trading back is always fine. Tennessee specifically has
a bunch of holes and seas. They're also not a team, Brian,
that's a quarterback away from being great in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Right.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
The Browns, Yeah, you put Kim Wore in that roster,
they're the playoff team probably.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
They're interesting. Yeah, it's roster if he's legit, right.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Yeah, yeah, So that's where I think that, Like, you know,
the the Titans would be open to that, but it
does feel like, Look, they brought their social media team
to his pro day. It feels like they're very set
on the decision to go with him.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Mm hmm. Yeah, that's the thing man is I asked
these two questions because this is how it boils down
from me. Right, it shows that cam Ward is not
a great prospect. That doesn't mean he's not going to
be a great pro he's just not a great aspect.
Because if I'm drafting number one, ideally, I want a
player to be there that other teams are just aching
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to trade up for, right, and that's not the case.
And I also, if I'm picking number one, I want
a player that's so good that I wouldn't even consider
trading down, and that's not what you have. There's a
lot of personnel evaluators they say cam Ward would be
the seventh quarterback taken in last year's draft, and it's like, WHOA,
So we're taking him number one overall and bypassing Travis
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Hunter or Abduall Carter. Really going through that exercise, I
would not be taking cam Ward number one. If I'm
the Tennessee Titans, I would not be bypassing Travis Hunter
or Abdual Carter for cam I just don't think he's
that level of a talent.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
He's probably not, but again, the importance of quarterback sort
of pushes him up a draft board.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Yeah, sure it does.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Yeah, I don't just agree with you as far as
the talent evaluation here, but he's such an important player
in an important position that you just sort of had
just sort of bite the bullet and do it. If
you're drafting best player available, Yeah, I mean cam Ward
is not one, two or three or four. Probably. I mean,
if you're doing a right you got you got Obviously
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you know Hunter Carter, probably Gent's up there, and maybe
you know Tyler Warren. I mean, there's there's multiple players
ahead of cam Ward. But the value. This is why
I always I thought for for months the Giants would
turned up to one because they need a quarterback in
like the worst way possible. It's like, there's not gonna
there's not gonna do it, I think. And I think
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that also is because it's just not a quarterback class
to give up assets for.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah, well, that's the thing. It kind of reminds me.
It's funny when we're talking about basketball, my mind goes
to football. So now when we're talking about football, my
mind goes to basketball for a second, where it reminds
me of the end of the regular season in the NBA,
you know, like the Western Conference, how it was such
a log jam and you would have these scenarios where
it's like, hey, this team needs to win this game,
(32:11):
and it's like, well, cool, that doesn't mean they will
just because they need to, you know, Like I get.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Sports, the must win teams are you must bet on them.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
They're absolutely, they have to win, they need to win.
They're gonna win, of course, Like it doesn't work like that.
So it's the same thing with quarterbacks. I get that
all these teams have to find a quarterback, but just
because that's the dynamic doesn't mean that you can just
swing at any quarterback and it's gonna be the right choice,
you know. Like I get that the Titans need a quarterback, absolutely,
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but I would come back and say, is this the
best pitch to swing at? You know, Like, who's to
say next year they won't be in a better spot,
or later in the draft they won't be in a
better spot depending on who's available and the risk that
you're You're not put it this way, if you're looking
later in the draft or the next year, you're not
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bypassing Travis Hunter or Abdul Carter when it comes to
that spot wherever it may be. So I don't know
that this is the spot for them.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
It's a valid point. One of my favorite sayings I
love saying is if back to the must win thing,
like if you have to, you know, must win a game,
you must not be very good.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
In the NFL, we always do that, right, We're like
it must win minus three, must win game, like, it
must not be very good. I'm you mentioned NBA. I
was surprised, you know, you're such a big fan of
the playing games. We didn't start with breaking down the
action for tonight, but I figured, oh well, I was
ready to go. I have like stats pulled off and.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Like, hey, I like basketball. I don't know all these people.
I find out these people are like I don't like basketball.
You know That's what it's turned into, just railing against
the play entitment.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Look, Memphis Dallas tonight should be entertaining. Obviously, job playing
or I think he'll play. But the first game, I
I mean, I finally don't watch a second of it.
I'm fine with it. Nothing about that screams entertaining to me.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Might just take the under you don't want to see
like Trey Young make a mockery of the game. Again,
that was the language from the last game.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Get that he got that t the other day for
the nut mat.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah, well it was, uh, he was upset with the
officiating and he he did like he grabbed the basketball
in front of the official and then he wouldn't give
it back to the official and it was a whole thing.
But that's why, that's why they ran.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
I find it's so interesting other sports that they give
technicals to players because football, we also yell at the
officials and they do nothing about it, like there's no
They just yelled back at you. I know, like there's
like there's no Like I remember, dude, we've had wars
with umpires. You know over that's the official in the
middle right who's basically charged the offensive.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Line right right. Oh yeah, we have wars with that guy.
Like they just take it every now and then you'll
see a coach like a penalty.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
They tell you to go after some anything, just like
like baseball and basketball. I mean baseball. I love baseball
so much, which you can't even talk about nationally for
months because it's so boring sometimes. But I mean it's
the idea of like get ejected from a baseball game
(35:20):
for arguing balls and strikes. It's just it's looking at
umpire the wrong way, like you're out here, buddy, it's
right right, that right thing that you know in list
the NBA, you get two technicals like okay, you know
two of them equal an injection, so you know, it
typically takes a lot to get to two, right. But
the het ejected throwing a player. Maybe the NFL is
(35:42):
only eight seventeen games, right, Like, you don't want to
throw a player out of one of seventeen games. But
it always, it always fascinates me when guys get ejected
from other sports.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Oh yeah, there's a fame. I have to grab the
audio for you. But there's just a famous story where
Matt Millen was with the Raiders a long time ago,
the linebacker, yeah, and he was talking about Ted Hendricks
was just dog cussing an official and the official was
just like dog cussing him back. Yeah, And he's used
(36:15):
to like at Penn State, they taught him you address
the officials, hey, mister official, and then you have your
question or your comment or whatever. And like Hendricks and
this official are just dog cussing each other out, and
he's like, what happened? To mister official, like he's like
a rookie and this is his first taste. It's totally different.
I love this.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
There's one of my favorite go back and forth with
each other. I don't know, like it was every umpire
to be fair. I mean, there was a lot of
times where I was very nice to the officials because
you know, I thought it helped. Well, oh am, I
gonna call hold thing. I mean that official tell me
one time, like I would have called that basically, but
just be careful, you know, Like I mean, I think
that helps to be friendly with them. But just some
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knowimes you have to share your opinion, just like in
all these other sports. And yeah, so I'm I don't know, man,
I mean, I guess I can stomach watching the first
NBA game, but the second one should be good.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
I the second one's good.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Yeah, Like like I like I've mentioned this before, I
like betting first quarters in the NBA playoffs. I'm I
bet the first two games of the play in the
home teams to win the first quarter. Both easily cover
the first quarter. I didn't do it the second night
because I just nine to ten games. The teams are
too even right tonight, I think I'm gonna stay away too.
(37:30):
I don't really. I you know, the MAVs I think
are season to play in these games. They've obviously got veterans.
I've done it before. Memphis isn't home, though, I can
see them trying to start fast. I mean that's part
of the handicap, right, Like these home teams in game
ones and then Game three is typically start pretty fast
right there at home and they get after the crowds
into it. But Dallas, I feel like it's unfazed by
(37:53):
this moment, right, I mean they look at look at
Adan Tyrie and Klay Thompson. They're gonna they're not gonna
care about playing in Memphis tonight.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yeah. Hey, he might be your on to something there.
All right. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian No. Coming up next.
One current NFL head coach has a hot take that
we will share with you. We are live from the
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Speaker 5 (38:17):
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Speaker 3 (38:28):
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We're coming to you from the Tireck dot com studios.
You ready for a hot take?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Here?
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Jeff's not my hot take. I could give you some
hot takes later, but this is a current NFL head
coaches hot take on quarterbacks in the twenty five draft.
Try this on for size. Okay, there is one current
NFL head coach told Diana Russini of The Athletic that
he believes Tyler Shuck is the best quarterback of the
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twenty twenty five draft. The quote is better than cam
Ward And look, I think before people start rolling their
eyes and dismissing this, Oh what is this guy not?
There's a big difference between better prospect and better pro Like,
cam Ward is the better prospect, there's no doubt about that,
But who turns out to be the better pro It's
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littered with examples of guys that are selected way later
in the draft or not even selected at all, that
turn out to be much better than players that are
selected at the top of the draft. So I wouldn't
just flat out dismiss this. I don't know that this
coach said if I had the number one pick, I'd
take Tyler Shuck. That's different, right, So better prospect different
(39:48):
than better pro What do you think about that? Hot take?
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Though, Well, it's easy to say that when you're not
drafting any of the quarterbacks. I would imagine, like, uh huh,
is just like you know, you talk to someone with
the Chiefs easy to say that you're not draft the
quarterback in this class. The question always is like, you know,
if if you are drafted quarterback, are you taking you're
taking it's your turn to turn the card, taking Tyler
(40:12):
Shuck over cam Ward? Are you really doing that? When
it comes like it's easy to say. I saw a
quote from a Seattle general manager about the quarterbacks. It
basically was like, yeah, you know, like they're all the same,
like they're they're all good, Like this is a good
quarterback class. And I was like, you're not drafted a quarterback?
What easy to say that they're all good? Like you
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know what I mean? Like it's easy to say these things, Brian,
when you're not drafting the quarterback. When it comes down
to it, no, one is taking Tyler Shuck over cam Ward.
Tyler Shuck is a year a month older than Trevor Lawrence.
He's like twenty five years old. You know, you know,
three college teams. You're just not doing it, man.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
I hear you. It's funny too, because if you think
about it, the draft is a lot like sports betting,
and what do people love to dock? No? No, no,
but but what do people love to do in sports batting?
They take the favorites, right, they bet on the favorites,
they bet on overs. That's typically what the public does,
and the NFL draft is very similar to that, where
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it's like, hey, I just want to take the money
line favorite here, that's minus two fifty. And that's why
cam Ward shoots up the draft boards. It's tough to
do something unconventional and taking the money line underdog that's
plus two ten or whatever. That's a scary position to
be in and that's why a lot of teams don't
do it.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
Yeah, you're taking twelve player props over in baseball today
at the Voice Saturday. It's incredible.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
I'm not gonna do that, but you know, hey, more
power to people who do. Hey. Coming up next, this
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to you, Jeff Schwartz. Of course, how about a legend
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about to step away? That would be Lee Corso. So
after thirty eight years, he is going to be retiring
from ESPN's College Game Day, his final appearance will be
on August thirtieth. That'll be the last show he does
and then he rides off into the sunset. What a
career though, dude, we're talking four decades over here and
(01:30):
universally loved. It's been a great run for Corso. He
is one of a kind. He's kind of like you
can't replace Charles Barkley on TV. You can't replace Lee
Corso on TV either. There's just one guy.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yeah, good morning Brian, Good morning everyone. And you know
they're trying obviously to do that with with one of
the new hosts there. The thing about Corso that stood
out through all the years, and that thing is important
to discuss, is he loved ball, Brian. Yeah, like it
came through so much. He loved ball and he had
(02:04):
fun with football, right, and those things sometimes I didn't
get lost when you cover the sport, right, like football,
Playing sports is fun. Okay, Like I have young kids,
we played the DNA tell them all the time. Yeah,
wins and losses. Yeah, you want to win, you want
to you want to play well, But like, did you
have fun today? You know, did you enjoy playing sports?
(02:25):
Because sports should be fun and Leekorso made covering an
intense sport. Football is intense, right, It's violent, it's physical,
it matters to a lot of people in this country.
And he made it fun men. And and I I
I work for ESPN's ri I will come over for
(02:47):
Fox Sports. I've switched over to watch Big New Kickoff.
I mean I like the show. I know people on
the show, working people in the show, and I still
do make my way over and maybe take a peek
at the head gear that course Will puts it every week,
like you know, like it. It is a lot of fun, right,
And I think even for a guy like myself, an
organ guy, and I know you're a ner name guy,
like he enjoyed putting on the organ, uh you know duckhead.
(03:11):
He enjoyed dressing up like the mascot for the Irish,
like those things as fans sucked you in right like
I didn't. I'm I don't Lee Corso is talking about offense.
I don't get he is fun man, like they have
other people in the show. I think the roles in
that show, Brian, you know Herbie is the football analytics guy, right,
you know, the film breakdown guy, and my analytics is
(03:34):
probably the wrong word the film breakdown guy, right, Desmond
Howard sort of in between, and then you have Corso,
who just is there a talk ball man, just have
fun talking ball and he will be far missed. There's
nothing you cannot replace him. There's I know they're what
they're trying to do right now. I don't think that's
a replacement for Lee Corso. I get the po of McAfee,
(03:57):
and I get like why he's there. His energy is
fantastic stick but he's a showman, right, like he's a
WWE guy, right and he enjoys that. That's not what
Corso was. So, man, what what a run for Corso?
And looking I think also too, like when you leave
something after that long, you would like the people that
(04:18):
you worked with to say the things they've said the
last couple of days. Right, Fouler put out video yesterday,
Herbie put out of video yesterday. There Herban was like
in tears nearly right, like, yeah, so legendary run. I
imagine what they're probably in Texas Ohio state to open
the season, and that's week one and that would be
uh week one this year in Texas Ohio state.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
That right, let me see real fast.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
But you know so I'm curious actually where he goes
because I know the Irish, don't they host Miami week one? Yeah, yeah,
I feel like that that could be a you know,
put on the Irish, you know, the the the mascot
suit one more time. But that's the thing. It's like, dude,
I can'ess just enough, like the just the like, Yeah,
(05:01):
he says things sometimes that weren't politically correct. So he
called that one kid a midget one time. Not great.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
When he was grabbing headgear one time, he was like
f it, like give me this other head gear and
it's like Lee.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Great, but like Brian great, like enjoy it. Enjoy Ball's
fun then, and so what a legend hopefully gets, he'll
get a proper send off. It's gonna be an emotional
show and uh, you know it is been building, right,
We've seen his his health decline over the years. He's
ninety years old, man, she says, fine around the country.
(05:38):
The show is physically.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Taxi for college game day.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Man.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
He was absolutely made for that show. And it's he'll
be missed, there's no doubt about that. But I didn't
think about that too. They're probably betting odds, but like
what headgear is going to dress up at like which
school to close the close it down, right. I didn't
even think about that aspect.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Curious what I'm curious actually what they do? You know,
they could do, you know, sometimes they just go to
a random place because it fits, like what the penis.
But Week one, you know, college football. This year we
have some some good matchups and so I do like
that about the sport now that that we have a
little bit, you know, because the playoffs twelve games, we
get some of these good non conference games early the
seasonless people don't care anymore, you know.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
You know, think about this too, though, Jeff, You're right.
So August thirtieth, it is Ohio State hosting Texas. Yeah,
and this was the very first head gear that he
put on. He chose Ohio State. Yeah, so it was
like I forget, like ninety three or something like that.
It was a long time ago, obviously, but it was
because Kirk Krbstreet's wife had access to like Brutus's head
(06:46):
you know, like the head gear or whatever. Like that's
how it started. And he put it on after because Herbie.
He chose Ohio State to win the game, like twenty
four to thirteen or something, and then Lee Corso sort
of doubled and put the head gear on, and everyone
just laughed and they were like, this kind of works.
This could be a thing. And he had like four
(07:08):
hundred in some games putting on head gear after that.
But that's where it began and that's where it could end. Also,
it's in putting on the brutus head gear. That's probably
the way it's gonna go.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Uh here it is. I pulled the graphic right now, mate,
here's be a little bit sill. Okay, four hundred and
thirty mascot headgear picks of all time. He picked sixty
nine different teams. If you were to guess that the
most headgear selections by team, the top five, I think
number one's pretty easy.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
But he was huge on Notre Dame. I know they've
got to be in the top No, they're.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Not the top five.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
They're not in the top five. Wow.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
So Ohio State's one, Bama's two. Okay, so ahise it's
forty five selections, which is insane. I mean that's a
good they've been right forty five times.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I'll be in the thirty eight LSU twenty five four
to twenty two, Oregon twenty one. He loved Organ dude. Wow, yeah,
new to the scene, Like this is you know, how
about this which team as multiple picks and no losses?
There's three of them, but there's one team that he's
picked seventeen times without a loss seventeen Wow.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I don't know, I really don't know what the answer
to that.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Would be The USC Trojans.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Wow, he's undefeated with.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
SC Now that was probably like us, he didn't, you know,
you know, there's Pete Carroll teams. By the way, I've
been another show used to do We If you Lendel
White often and what a character. But he said something
that I actually thought was was not even accurate, but
I looked it up and he's right. Of course, the
USC didn't lose a football game for nearly three years.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Right yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Like with Pete Carroll, which is kind of like you
feel about You're like what three years? I mean, and
they like lost I think early two thousand and three
and then didn't lose again until the Texas game at
the end of the five season. Like so he probably
to seven of those games. I mean, he just he's
been able to pick the USC eight here during that time,
so man four hundred and thirty mascot head gear pick.
(09:10):
So I love how they put his record on here,
like it like it actually means anything. He took the
home team every time, basically.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
But the other thing too, is you think about how
negative things are now, right you think of social media.
You just take a peek at social media and you're like,
that's negative. That's really negative. That's disturbingly negative. Oh yeah,
And I don't think it ever got that way with
Corso he's kind of like a safe space, you know
what I mean, Like you just didn't have people in
(09:39):
bulk talking trash about him, which I love. And listen,
he had a stroke in two thousand and nine and
it affected the way that he spoke, and the last
sixteen years he's kept on going on. Yeah, And I
just I really like that he's gotten his flowers the
way he has because he's been huge for the game.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yeah. And I think that to your point about negativity,
Like you know, I search social media when something big happens,
like there's there's there's nothing, man, and and there's nothing,
there's there's no there's just no negativity. I mean, yeah, again,
did he say things sometimes that weren't politically correct. Sure,
(10:21):
but he's ninety years old, so I mean that's that
happens when you get to a certain age. But again,
the dude, what you just I remember just all the
things about Oregon when when game day showed up. I mean,
how big as a student, as a player, how big
it was when game day came to your campus and
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you'd sit there and you typically had a later games
you're able to watch in the hotel room. We'd all
have we'd all have the show on. We'd all wait
to see his head gear pick, and it just was
cool man to see, like a show TV. A little
old Organ. I remember, guys Or is good now, but
when I was there, we were just starting to get good,
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and we weren't good for one hundred years before that.
So like it got people pretendly Organ it's been good.
Organ has been good for like twenty five years, that's it.
And that was mostly when it's you know two, it's
starting about two thousand, right, Oregon didn't win their first
Bowl game to like nineteen eighty nine. Brian, I think
people the amount of ball games Organ played between the
beginning of the program in nineteen ninety four, it was
like ten that was it. That was it? Ten Bowl games.
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We've obviously played in like twenty five since then, So
you know, like seeing Oregon Man in two thousand and four,
twosand and five on national TV like that with with
his head gear on was like just like validation, you know,
like man, we're we're making moves, you know, and it
was special for that for him to do that. So
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really just fantastic career. And you know, I know that
he will he'll do that one last show, probably a
pretty emotional show, I would imagine. And yeah, then you know,
the there's no rep I hope that they don't try
to replace him, which I think they're not gonna do. Uh.
McAfee's a different energy than yeah orso, you know, the
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showmanship of McAfee, you know, the wwe like like his
he's a great showman. Obviously a much different style than Corso.
And I hope that if that's the replacement permanent, that
that's great. Like he McAfee does his own thing, but
there's no replacing Corso. The head here thing should be
retired forever. That's not just not happening ever again.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah and yeah, let let it.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Let it let it die.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah, that would be really tough. He'd feel almost wrong
for a long time. I don't know if it would
ever feel right. But yeah, it's only him. Like that's
the thing is I love Nick Saban, but he's not core.
No one's cours So Like Nick Saban's like a librarian
compared to Corso. You know, you can't have just some
even like a zany fun even like Mike Leach when
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he was alive, he was a character, he could do
something like that. There aren't that many people that could
do something similar to Corso. But yeah, you're probably just
gonna retire it and let like let McAfee do his
thing and go in a slightly different direction and have
fun with that.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Because look, look the McAfee clip of him singing so
Georgia fight song and then and then saying go Alabama
or the vice versa. It was like incredible, incredible moment.
He's taking a whole fight song for one team and
then it said screw it, I'm taking the other team.
Like it was. It was great theater, but obviously it's
a much different vibe than with Corso. And you know,
(13:38):
I do wonder, like how long Herpestreet will do the
show without Corso. I wonder if this show kind of
goes with some changes now, you know, just remember too,
like Corso played college football, he coach college football. I mean,
this has been his life for all these years, has
been college football. So I remember, Like I'm looking to
social media right now. I mean, there's not a single
tweet that's negative, even even even the midget comment, Like
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people don't even really they think that's the funniest thing
he ever said on the show. So for those who
missed it, it was like they were I even know. I
think they were actually at organ and he there was
a little kid on the show and it was a
Harvard Yale pick, like so he got sequential and he's
like he's like he's like not so fast, midget. He's like, whoa,
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what are we doing? What are we doing? But even that,
like people find you know, like it's one of those
things with the old person you're like, ah lol, guy,
he just kind of like said, yeah, silly.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
That's funny too. Like reading some of these stories about Corso,
like you forget because he's done game day for so long.
Some people know him just from that.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
He was some people know him a little, did that
he said that he made that comment.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Oh comic, But he's been there for thirty eight years.
There are a lot of people that don't know him
from anything other than that. But one of the stories
I read was talking about his career as a player
at Florida State.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Coach.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, he's from fifty three to fifty six. He was
a player. He played on both sides of the ball.
This is like Travis Hunter of the fifties, but close.
He led Florida State and interceptions in fifty four, rushing
yards in fifty five and then passing yards and punt
returns in fifty six. It's like, what, Yeah, how in
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the world did that happen? He's still number three on
FSU's career interceptions list. He's still number three over there
at FSU.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Like, wow, look, Loo look like he was a legit
coaching player, I think, And yeah, I get Look my kids,
you know, my kids are ten and eight, and you
know we we're in sports land now on Saturdays. But
I don't even know whether alt time I've been home
at twelve eastern on a Saturday for without the football season,
went flag football and fall baseball and softball, whatever. But
(15:53):
I still try to put on if I can for
my kids to see, because those are the things that
get their attention, you know, is the head gear and
the fun of that moment, even though they might not
be into watching a two hour three hours and that's
a three hour preview of the actual games of the week.
To be fair, I don't watch it either. I like
to watch the beginning of the show where they sort
of show like the home crowd and talk about the
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game in hand, and I just turned off and put
it back on again at twelve o'clock to see the
head gear pick in between. I don't need that in
my life anymore. But you know, my kids enjoyed it
when they got and they got to watch it too,
because it was quite unique to see him put on
an organheader Oklahoma Sooner thing or do the Florida chop.
I mean, it's all it's all fun.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah, yeah, And it didn't seem like a lot of
people took it too seriously, which was good, right because
in this day and age. I remember I got to
talk to the late Craig Sager one time, yeah, and
I asked him about like the crazy outfits that he
wore and he said when he covered March Madness, when
he covered the NCAA tournament, he wore a lot of
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like muted neutral colors because he was like, if I
wear like a red blaze or all these like you
know whatever, North Carolina fansil like you're rooting for Wisconsin.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
We know you.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
So he tried to wear a lot of neutral stuff.
And so like with Lee, with Lee Corso, you would
think if he put on the headgear of whatever team,
the other fan base is like, he doesn't like us.
It didn't seem like it ever got there. You know.
People just laughed and went along with it.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
I think it was it was It's not like he
was not he wasn't making a game pick as much
as he was just having fun with the moment. I
think that's like the difference, right, Like the other guys
on the show are making game picks, right right, I
was just having fun, Like he's just doing the most
fun thing he came in that moment. So that's why
I think too no one really cared. And also he
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would choose. I would imagine if you've been on the
show five times, you've been chosen once or twice, you know,
part of it as well. So yeah, what a what
a legend and a good person too. I I don't
really know. I mean, we haven't heard any stories otherwise.
So Ray careculations to Corso on the incredible career, and
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uh now we can all watch Big Nick Kickoff.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
There. I like it, A good good plug for Fox,
you know, love that.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
I like Bigger Kickoff though I do watch it. I
do watch it, so it's a good show.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
There. You go, very nice, all right. He's Jeff Schwartz.
I'm Brian No. Coming up next, your answers to these
two questions will reveal the path one team should take
going forward. Right NFL Draft, Right around the corner, two
key questions coming up next. We're in for Two Pros
and a Cup of Joe live from the Tireck dot
(18:42):
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Speaker 5 (18:45):
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Speaker 3 (18:59):
He's Jeff Schwartz, I'm Brian No. We're in for two
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Coming to you from the Tairac dot com studios. You
know it's funny. I gotta tell you a brief story here,
Jeff So, Lorena is with us doing a great job.
Technical producer. Hello, Dua Lipa always makes me think of Lorena.
(19:21):
You know why that is? This is why that is.
I was filling in for Ben Maller months ago and
Lorena off the air. She says, Dua Lipa is a
very tall woman. Oh, it's just on the very very
very tall woman and I'm like, wow, how tall? I
didn't really like six Tuesday? May it sound like she's
(19:44):
like five?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
No, she does. I'll be obviously wear heels. What she
performs hurt.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
And that's the thing is the platforms. It throws me off.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Yeah, her performances have gone a little a little different
over the years. I'm I guess I've enjoyed the videos
I see.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, I love me.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
They've changed. Yeah, my kids, My kids are very much
in the Dupa.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Two year over. You know all this stuff.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Yeah, we've had this take before. I remember about all
our songs sound close to this.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, you guys are terrible. At least one album sounds
the exact same.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Not every song, A lot of the new stuff sounds
exactly the same. But the amount of music that I
listen to now that I just like, I get when
my parents should just say, like I just what do
you listening to? Buddy? I now I sort of get
it now. Not that I don't want to listen to
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the same eight songs over and over again, but like,
I've had enough Morgan Walling in my life. My daughter
just will it's it's twenty four to seven.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I've Morgan coming right up.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
I've had I've had enough Morganwalling in my life. I
not that the music's I just I've had enough, but
I will probably I think I'm driving home from the
beach today and I will be with the kids for
three and a half hours driving home, and I imagine
they want to listen to TikTok radio and it's just
gonna be the same eight songs over and over and
(21:17):
over again. That you know, Oh boy, I get it now,
I get I get my parents now. I was listening
to like, you know, you know, uh, you know, one
oh five nine. My mom had to suffer through that,
I think for a little bit.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
But what was that what what kind of what kind
of music was on there?
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Hip hop, R and B. I don't think. I don't
think that she expected that to come like when I
was a teenager. But that's where I certainly was at
PARA six.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
So it uh, you know, we got okay, so I
forgot you're from the LA area. So that was like big.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Boy, big oh yeah, big boy in the morning. The
the the pranks that he did that he called.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
He had his tay care some are really good.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Yeah, he called he had his three characters and he dude,
he called this one lady one time. I'm sure I
could find it on the internet. He and he said
he was a delivery man who was delivering stuff to
her apartment and she got so angry. It was like
seven to ten every morning driving a score. It was
(22:22):
so funny.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Oh my, yeah, I remember some of that because yeah,
what it is, Liz, I remember all that stuff? Yeah,
sure to wait, Yeah he did, he did, absolutely, he did,
no doubt.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
All right.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
So I got a couple of draft questions to throw
your way here. Yeah, okay, So I was thinking about
the Titans and they have the first pick, and so
it seems like it's just a done deal that they're
going to go with quarterback cam Ward, And so I
started thinking about that, and I thought, if you're the Browns,
if you're one of these other teams that needs a quarterback,
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is it a good idea to trade up to get
cam Ward? That's the first question. Is it smart for
the Browns or another team to trade up to number one?
What would you say to that?
Speaker 4 (23:07):
So this is always an interesting discussion because, Okay, so
I've been thinking about this. This is not really a
take for a while, but it's kind of interesting. So
if you're just to grade the players, right, and I
don't grade players, but you know people that do, cam
Ward at sh Dear Sanders are below the top six
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quarterbacks drafted last season, Okay, it would be below like
just straight great if you're grading you know, one hundred
to zero essentially, right, Like let's say bo Nicks was
eighty nine and Penix was a ninety whatever, Like they're
below that, right, they're in eighty eight, eighty seven, whatever
it is. But the position is so valuable, right, Brian,
that sometimes you ignore the grade because you need that
(23:53):
position filled, right, quarterback position. So this is where the
discussion the trade the discussion about trade. It's interesting to me,
right because the Browns like Camboard. I think it's no
surprise the Browns like Camboard. But is he good enough
to trade future first round picks for now? If he
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hits absolutely good enough? Right, because that changes your franchise
if you do the quarterback Okay, if he's not, you
turn into the Niners whose roster could use the three
first round picks they traded away for trade lance. You know,
like that's you end up being right. So, but you
also get a situation where like you're the to your
Tennessee and because cam is the only option, you fall
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in love with him and overvalue him because he's the
only option at quarterback, right. And that's why I think
where we're at right now, where the Browns went want
cam Ward. I I don't think it would be smart
to trade up for him for the reasons I mentioned.
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But he's the only person at the dance, you know,
like you yeah, you know, and and you need someone
to dance with, and maybe they want to do that.
It does seem like, I mean, there was the thing
the other day cam wore did a I think he
was playing video games or he's something where he was
asked like his top wide receiver in the NFL. He
listened both Tennessee Titans first, like Eddie he thinks he's
(25:24):
going to in the Titans, and like best running back Pollard,
Pollard the best running back. He listened like Calvin Ridley
and and who's other whoever? Did not Burkes, who's the
other guy out of Tennessee. He listened to them like
like one and two. It was very It's very very yeah, yeah, yeah,
very funny. So I think he knows it's gonna be
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a Tennessee Titan. But your point, like I would say
that the Browns are in this spot because of Deshaun Watson.
Obviously from that decision, do you make a second, maybe
crippling quarterback decision, you know it would sit height. I
just don't think standers is will be fine at two
for them. It does feel like they're gonna pass on that.
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And maybe you know, Travis Hunter plus Tyler Shuck is
better than so there are standards plus Luther Brn top
of the second round. I don't think something like that right,
And that's part of the draft equation, guys. You have
to think about the draft is a full seven rounds,
not just round one, right, So what I mean by
that is what I just said. Let's say that Browns
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want wide receiver and quarterback with their first two picks,
So you gotta think about what's what's better for your
team Travis Hunter. Plus let's say Tyler Shuck top of
the second round, the Louisville quarterback, Texas Tech, and Organ
quarterback all three. But Tyler Shuck is one one month
older than Trevor Lawrence. I think he saw like he's
played a lot of football, or or maybe Quinn Yours
(26:51):
top of second round. Jalen Milroll going to the draft,
Brian kind of spooks me. And we're drafting Jayleen Milroll early.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Well, I don't know if he's gonna be a first
round pick, but it is interesting that he's gonna be there.
But that's the thing. Let me go through this exercise
with you at first, you know. So with cam Ward,
is it a good idea for a team to trade
up for him? I say no, even if it's the
Browns at too, Like, that's still gonna be a good
amount of compensation to move up even one spot for
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the number one overall pick. That that's a lot to
give up, and I have too many questions about cam Ward?
Is he gonna pan out? Is he going to be
a true franchise quarterback. That's just too heavy of a
price tag when I have that many questions, and his
decision making has been too shaky too often. He's been
a blend of spectacular and playmaking ability, but questionable decision making.
(27:41):
And I think the price tag's too high. So the
first part of this is no, I don't think it's
a good idea to trade up for cam Ward. Now
flip that around, if another team actually were interested in
trading up for cam Ward, would it be a smart
idea for the Titans to trade down? That's another part
of it. What do you think about that they get
(28:02):
an offer? The offer is in, you get all these hey,
we're gonna give you this pick and that pick, and
what do you think what would be your response there?
If you're the Titans just ballparking what that trade package
would look like.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I think as a general draft strategy, trading down is
never wrong, okay, because you're just accumulating more picks, and
in a draft like this draft where you know the
the premium players are not many, And I actually do
funny thing about this draft, Like I was talking to
(28:37):
a personnel guy the other day, they have they have
six premium players essentially on their on their draft board,
and I think the six do not even include cam Ward, Right,
you look at Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter, Mason Graham, uh
Will Campbell gent that's five or six. I don't Yeah,
I don't think cam Ward was even part of the six.
(28:59):
I think there's one of their membu maybe, like Kim
Wore is not even part of that sixth guy. He So, yeah,
I think trading back is always fine. Tennessee specifically has
a bunch of holes and seas. They're also not a team, Brian,
that's a quarterback away from being great in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Right.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
The Browns, Yeah, you put Kim Wore in that roster,
they're the playoff team probably.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
They're interesting. Yeah, it's roster if he's legit, right.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Yeah, yeah, So that's where I think that, Like, you know,
the the Titans would be open to that, but it
does feel like, Look, they brought their social media team
to his pro day. It feels like they're very set
on the decision to go with him.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Mm hmm. Yeah, that's the thing man is I asked
these two questions because this is how it boils down
from me. Right, it shows that cam Ward is not
a great prospect. That doesn't mean he's not going to
be a great pro he's just not a great aspect.
Because if I'm drafting number one, ideally, I want a
player to be there that other teams are just aching
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to trade up for, right, and that's not the case.
And I also, if I'm picking number one, I want
a player that's so good that I wouldn't even consider
trading down, and that's not what you have. There's a
lot of personnel evaluators they say cam Ward would be
the seventh quarterback taken in last year's draft, and it's like, WHOA,
So we're taking him number one overall and bypassing Travis
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Hunter or Abduall Carter. Really going through that exercise, I
would not be taking cam Ward number one. If I'm
the Tennessee Titans, I would not be bypassing Travis Hunter
or Abdual Carter for cam I just don't think he's
that level of a talent.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
He's probably not, but again, the importance of quarterback sort
of pushes him up a draft board.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Yeah, sure it does.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Yeah, I don't just agree with you as far as
the talent evaluation here, but he's such an important player
in an important position that you just sort of had
just sort of bite the bullet and do it. If
you're drafting best player available, Yeah, I mean cam Ward
is not one, two or three or four. Probably. I mean,
if you're doing a right you got you got Obviously
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you know Hunter Carter, probably Gent's up there, and maybe
you know Tyler Warren. I mean, there's there's multiple players
ahead of cam Ward. But the value. This is why
I always I thought for for months the Giants would
turned up to one because they need a quarterback in
like the worst way possible. It's like, there's not gonna
there's not gonna do it, I think. And I think
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that also is because it's just not a quarterback class
to give up assets for.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah, well, that's the thing. It kind of reminds me.
It's funny when we're talking about basketball, my mind goes
to football. So now when we're talking about football, my
mind goes to basketball for a second, where it reminds
me of the end of the regular season in the NBA,
you know, like the Western Conference, how it was such
a log jam and you would have these scenarios where
it's like, hey, this team needs to win this game,
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and it's like, well, cool, that doesn't mean they will
just because they need to, you know, Like I get.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Sports, the must win teams are you must bet on them.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
They're absolutely, they have to win, they need to win.
They're gonna win, of course, Like it doesn't work like that.
So it's the same thing with quarterbacks. I get that
all these teams have to find a quarterback, but just
because that's the dynamic doesn't mean that you can just
swing at any quarterback and it's gonna be the right choice,
you know. Like I get that the Titans need a quarterback, absolutely,
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but I would come back and say, is this the
best pitch to swing at? You know, Like, who's to
say next year they won't be in a better spot,
or later in the draft they won't be in a
better spot depending on who's available and the risk that
you're You're not put it this way, if you're looking
later in the draft or the next year, you're not
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bypassing Travis Hunter or Abdul Carter when it comes to
that spot wherever it may be. So I don't know
that this is the spot for them.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
It's a valid point. One of my favorite sayings I
love saying is if back to the must win thing,
like if you have to, you know, must win a game,
you must not be very good.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
In the NFL, we always do that, right, We're like
it must win minus three, must win game, like, it
must not be very good. I'm you mentioned NBA. I
was surprised, you know, you're such a big fan of
the playing games. We didn't start with breaking down the
action for tonight, but I figured, oh well, I was
ready to go. I have like stats pulled off and.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Like, hey, I like basketball. I don't know all these people.
I find out these people are like I don't like basketball.
You know That's what it's turned into, just railing against
the play entitment.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Look, Memphis Dallas tonight should be entertaining. Obviously, job playing
or I think he'll play. But the first game, I
I mean, I finally don't watch a second of it.
I'm fine with it. Nothing about that screams entertaining to me.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Might just take the under you don't want to see
like Trey Young make a mockery of the game. Again,
that was the language from the last game.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Get that he got that t the other day for
the nut mat.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah, well it was, uh, he was upset with the
officiating and he he did like he grabbed the basketball
in front of the official and then he wouldn't give
it back to the official and it was a whole thing.
But that's why, that's why they ran.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
I find it's so interesting other sports that they give
technicals to players because football, we also yell at the
officials and they do nothing about it, like there's no
They just yelled back at you. I know, like there's
like there's no Like I remember, dude, we've had wars
with umpires. You know over that's the official in the
middle right who's basically charged the offensive.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Line right right. Oh yeah, we have wars with that guy.
Like they just take it every now and then you'll
see a coach like a penalty.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
They tell you to go after some anything, just like
like baseball and basketball. I mean baseball. I love baseball
so much, which you can't even talk about nationally for
months because it's so boring sometimes. But I mean it's
the idea of like get ejected from a baseball game
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for arguing balls and strikes. It's just it's looking at
umpire the wrong way, like you're out here, buddy, it's
right right, that right thing that you know in list
the NBA, you get two technicals like okay, you know
two of them equal an injection, so you know, it
typically takes a lot to get to two, right. But
the het ejected throwing a player. Maybe the NFL is
(35:42):
only eight seventeen games, right, Like, you don't want to
throw a player out of one of seventeen games. But
it always, it always fascinates me when guys get ejected
from other sports.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Oh yeah, there's a fame. I have to grab the
audio for you. But there's just a famous story where
Matt Millen was with the Raiders a long time ago,
the linebacker, yeah, and he was talking about Ted Hendricks
was just dog cussing an official and the official was
just like dog cussing him back. Yeah, And he's used
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to like at Penn State, they taught him you address
the officials, hey, mister official, and then you have your
question or your comment or whatever. And like Hendricks and
this official are just dog cussing each other out, and
he's like, what happened? To mister official, like he's like
a rookie and this is his first taste. It's totally different.
I love this.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
There's one of my favorite go back and forth with
each other. I don't know, like it was every umpire
to be fair. I mean, there was a lot of
times where I was very nice to the officials because
you know, I thought it helped. Well, oh am, I
gonna call hold thing. I mean that official tell me
one time, like I would have called that basically, but
just be careful, you know, Like I mean, I think
that helps to be friendly with them. But just some
(36:55):
knowimes you have to share your opinion, just like in
all these other sports. And yeah, so I'm I don't know, man,
I mean, I guess I can stomach watching the first
NBA game, but the second one should be good.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
I the second one's good.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Yeah, Like like I like I've mentioned this before, I
like betting first quarters in the NBA playoffs. I'm I
bet the first two games of the play in the
home teams to win the first quarter. Both easily cover
the first quarter. I didn't do it the second night
because I just nine to ten games. The teams are
too even right tonight, I think I'm gonna stay away too.
(37:30):
I don't really. I you know, the MAVs I think
are season to play in these games. They've obviously got veterans.
I've done it before. Memphis isn't home, though, I can
see them trying to start fast. I mean that's part
of the handicap, right, Like these home teams in game
ones and then Game three is typically start pretty fast
right there at home and they get after the crowds
into it. But Dallas, I feel like it's unfazed by
(37:53):
this moment, right, I mean they look at look at
Adan Tyrie and Klay Thompson. They're gonna they're not gonna
care about playing in Memphis tonight.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yeah. Hey, he might be your on to something there.
All right. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian No. Coming up next.
One current NFL head coach has a hot take that
we will share with you. We are live from the
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Speaker 3 (38:28):
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You ready for a hot take?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Here?
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Jeff's not my hot take. I could give you some
hot takes later, but this is a current NFL head
coaches hot take on quarterbacks in the twenty five draft.
Try this on for size. Okay, there is one current
NFL head coach told Diana Russini of The Athletic that
he believes Tyler Shuck is the best quarterback of the
(39:03):
twenty twenty five draft. The quote is better than cam
Ward And look, I think before people start rolling their
eyes and dismissing this, Oh what is this guy not?
There's a big difference between better prospect and better pro Like,
cam Ward is the better prospect, there's no doubt about that,
But who turns out to be the better pro It's
(39:25):
littered with examples of guys that are selected way later
in the draft or not even selected at all, that
turn out to be much better than players that are
selected at the top of the draft. So I wouldn't
just flat out dismiss this. I don't know that this
coach said if I had the number one pick, I'd
take Tyler Shuck. That's different, right, So better prospect different
(39:48):
than better pro What do you think about that? Hot take?
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Though, Well, it's easy to say that when you're not
drafting any of the quarterbacks. I would imagine, like, uh huh,
is just like you know, you talk to someone with
the Chiefs easy to say that you're not draft the
quarterback in this class. The question always is like, you know,
if if you are drafted quarterback, are you taking you're
taking it's your turn to turn the card, taking Tyler
(40:12):
Shuck over cam Ward? Are you really doing that? When
it comes like it's easy to say. I saw a
quote from a Seattle general manager about the quarterbacks. It
basically was like, yeah, you know, like they're all the same,
like they're they're all good, Like this is a good
quarterback class. And I was like, you're not drafted a quarterback?
What easy to say that they're all good? Like you
(40:32):
know what I mean? Like it's easy to say these things, Brian,
when you're not drafting the quarterback. When it comes down
to it, no, one is taking Tyler Shuck over cam Ward.
Tyler Shuck is a year a month older than Trevor Lawrence.
He's like twenty five years old. You know, you know,
three college teams. You're just not doing it, man.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
I hear you. It's funny too, because if you think
about it, the draft is a lot like sports betting,
and what do people love to dock? No? No, no,
but but what do people love to do in sports batting?
They take the favorites, right, they bet on the favorites,
they bet on overs. That's typically what the public does,
and the NFL draft is very similar to that, where
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it's like, hey, I just want to take the money
line favorite here, that's minus two fifty. And that's why
cam Ward shoots up the draft boards. It's tough to
do something unconventional and taking the money line underdog that's
plus two ten or whatever. That's a scary position to
be in and that's why a lot of teams don't
do it.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
Yeah, you're taking twelve player props over in baseball today
at the Voice Saturday. It's incredible.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
I'm not gonna do that, but you know, hey, more
power to people who do. Hey. Coming up next, this
freaking guy,
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