April 18, 2025 • 38 mins
Brian Noe & Geoff Schwartz talk about Aaron Rodgers revealing what happened between him and the Jets and what his future holds in the NFL, a preview of tonight's NBA Play-In Games and the weekend's playoff series, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What is going on? Welcome in. I hope your Friday
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tire buying should be. All right, Jeff So Aaron Rodgers.
He made his first public comments since being released by
the Jets in March. He was on the Pat McAfee
show yesterday. And there's a reason why I didn't bring
him up in the first hour. It's just too early
in the morning, you know what I mean. Like, it's
just I think we had to like ramp up to
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Did we.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Never talk about him again? Does he just go away?
Like we just never? We decided today moving forward, I
never mentioned Aaron Rodgers name again. I mean, the only
reason we ever hear what he has to say is
because of Pat McAfee. Yeah, that show. That's not his fault.
I mean, your his job is to get on interesting guests.
But like if we just never talked abut Aaron Rodgers. Again,
(01:07):
I think we would be better as football fans.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Maybe maybe, but at the risk of just harming your
general well being. Right here we have some cuts of
Aaron Rodgers on the Pat McAfee show. Okay, now this
first one, this is a monstrous cut, Jeff. This might
be remember like Happy Gilmore, where, like Adam said Sandler
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in the movie, he had his happy place and then
he had like the nightmare place. This might be your
nightmare place, you know, where everything just goes haywire goes wrong.
It's a tremendous story. Though. He's talking about flying across
the country to meet with the Jets in person, Like,
what's gonna happen? Are they interested in having me stay
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with the Jets? What's the deal here? So this story
he meets with Aaron Glenn, the new head coach, and
I just think it's a funny story. So try this
on for size. We'll react to it the whole nine yards.
Here you go, here's Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I figured that when I flew across country on my
own dime, that there was going to be a conversation.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
And the confusing thing to me and the strange thing was.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
You know, when I went out there, I meet with
the coach, we start talking, he runs out of the room.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I'm like, that's kind of strange.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I was like.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Then he comes back with the GM and I'm like,
all right, So we sit down in the office and
I think we're going to have this long conversation. I've
flown across the country, and twenty seconds in he goes,
I mean literally, I'm talking to the GM about something.
And he leans to the edge of his sheet and goes,
should you want to play football? I was like, yeah,
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I'm interested, and he said we're going a different direction
in quarterback, and.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I was kind of shocked. Now, not shocked because I
didn't think that was a possibility.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Listen, of course they want to move on, that's totally fine,
but shocked because I just flew across the country. You
could have told me this on the phone if weren't
even going to have a conversation.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
And this is verbatim exactly how it happened.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
So I said, huh, and he goes, we just want
to know how you want it released the messaging, and
I said, verbatim, I don't give a shit about the message,
and I said why, and then he said, I don't
want to be up in front of the room saying
something and have guys looking back at you. And I said,
what does that even mean? Are you assuming that I
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would be in the back of the room during the
team meeting, undermining what you're saying. I said, you don't
know me, and he said you don't know me, and
then I said, exactly, which is why I flew across
the country to have a face to face meeting with you,
to talk about my experience with the Jets and to
hear your vision for the team. Twenty seconds in, what
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I thought was going to be a couple hour meeting
turned into like a fifteen minute meeting and I walked
out of there.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
There you go, that was Aaron Rodgers meeting with Aaron Glenn.
Do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Hmm? Wow? I thought there thought some prayers, buddy. Well,
so he got total these cut twenty seconds in and they
met for another fourteen minutes and forty seconds. Is that
what I'm that's I'm supposed to gather from this discussion.
I guess that they told him he's been released. I've
been released before. I'm not Aaron Rodgers I didn't talk
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to the head coach on the manager for another fourteen
and a half minutes afterwards. Right, he said he got
cut in the first twenty seconds, and then he stayed
there for fifteen more minutes to talk about what the
vision was. I guess I don't what are they talking
for fifteen minutes that you've been released?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Have you ever pretty much the end of the conversation,
you've ever been.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Fired and then talked to your firer for fifteen more
minutes afterwards? I know, I haven't. Look, these stories are
always one sided, right, Yeah, it's always what Aaron Rodgers
says happened, because what the jet A knocker, a feud.
I don't care what you don't watch on the team anymore.
They don't care how he's portrayed. It's just you know,
you have that friend probably in your life who just
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is always complaining about something, and eventually you're like, yeah,
I just I'm not engaging with that person anymore. All
Aaron Rodgers does is vent to complain about things in life.
When is he ever happy about something? When does he
ever get on? To be fair, I don't listen to
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him on any show, so maybe I only see the
negative stuff that he talks about. It's just always a vent,
sash Man, to drain it draining, just to hear him
complain all each and every week about something in life.
He's still talking about COVID five years later.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
You know, he reminds me a lot of Draymond Green.
It just popped in my head because Draymond does similar
things where listen, it's all one sided, just like you said,
Draymond will he might do something crazy on the court,
but it's it's always like why was this call made?
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And what about this? And what about that? And it's
like Draymond you you like need the guy in the
groin that that's on you.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Rogers has less has less groin shots in his career
than in Dreymond.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
That's right, right, But it's similar right where it is
it's just one sided. It's I'm the victim. It's I
don't know where these people are getting their information. That's
not what happened. Is It can't only be that way
all the time. It just can't.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Like I look, certainly, Aaron Rodgers, that story might be
one real I'm not starting quarterback. I'm not a Hall
of Fame quarterback, which he will be. He'll be a
first Pell Hall of Famer. No matter how you feel
about his opinions on COVID and the vaccine and and life.
He's a first Pell Hall of Famer. There's no doubt
about it. When the best quarterbacks ever play that, that
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speech is gonna be. Oh boy, to call it the
Hall of Fame, It's gonna be something, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
That's gonna be Jordan esque, Yeah, calling everybody out.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah, it's just gonna be. Yeah. Look, I like the
Hall of Fame speeches. All listen. That's one time I
will listen to Aaron Rodgers. I promise you that I'll
listen to his Hall of Fame speech. I just don't
do the conversation going like that. I'm not gonna lie.
You also have to be in town to at some
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point to sign your release papers, at least I when
I've been cut, I've had to go sign papers to
be released. So he had to be in New York
at some point. Now, the team often pays for that flight,
not Aaron Rodgers, and so you know, you know, did
he call them beforehand and say, hey, man, like, let's
have this discussion. I'm flying to town. Did he just
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show up place. There's so many questions that need to
be answered. I think about the situation. I just don't
believe he got released and spent fifteen minutes talking to
Aaron Glenn afterwards. You know, like that's probably not how
this whole thing went down. And I would imagine that
they talked to it and they're like, yeah, we're releasing you,
like you know it was. The decision was already made
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before and Rogers got there, because that's the way it
works in that position, and the teams know what they're
gonna do ahead of time with a lot of personnel decisions.
But you know, I if you're at Pittsburgh or the
Vikings or the Giants, right and he's signing up for
this this.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
It's a lot. There's a lot there. It's like it's
a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And I think he said the reports are that you know,
he's he'sidering a retirement, and I mean it sounds like
he wants attention when you listen to him talk about it.
And it's like, if you're Pittsburgh, you have to go
into next Thursday thinking about we got to get a quarterback,
right because Rogers, if you want to be a Steeler,
he'd be a Steeler. So that's that the point, he
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has a contract available to him, he's passing up the opportunity.
That's totally his call. If you want to retire, go
ahead and retire. But this this creeve and airing every week,
and just like, why would you want that in your
locker room?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I don't know. Yeah, part of your team. I get it.
He's talented and he was kind of productive last year.
It wasn't a debacle, like in terms of his numbers, right,
it was okay.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
You know what's interesting too, is like you talk to
those teammates in Green Bay and they all like him.
It's so funny because you just don't see that from
him now. And I'm not saying that Jets teammates didn't
like him, but you don't hear anyone coming out of
defending and who played with him in New York, you know,
but you hear you see these Packers guys, and I
believe them when they say they like playing on and
Roger and they're friendly with him. But I could just do.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Without Roger, Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Hey, the thing about it, we talked we started the
show with Corso, right and how interesting and how fun
Corso was. I just don't find this interesting at all.
It doesn't it doesn't challenge me mentally. I don't have
to think very much to come up with any sort
of anti Rogers take or like just it's just so uninterested.
I'm just uninterested, and Roger.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I'm the opposite way because some of the things that
he says, I'm like, okay, if you tell that's For instance,
he tells that long story about Aaron Glenn. Okay, he
flew all across the country, you know, on his own dime,
like he stressed, he's I paid for it, neither paid
for it, just so you know, I saw my own dime.
He flew all the way over there. And then twenty
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seconds in Aaron Glenn is the bad guy and says
we're going in a different direction. It's like, why didn't
you just tell me that on the phone?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Could have been the way it went down, who knows.
But if that's true, then how is then this his reaction.
He also said this in the same interview about where
he stands right now as a free agent.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
To anything and attached to nothing.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
So so yeah, retirement still could be could be a possibility.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Okay, so that's the part that I hate Jeff where Okay,
let's just let's walk down this road and just assume
for a minute that what he said about Aaron Glenn
and meeting with the Jets was exactly the way it
went down. Let's just live in that world for a second.
So how is this your reaction to all of that,
which is, you know, I don't know, not really committed
(11:14):
to anything, open minded to everything. See how it goes,
maybe I retire. I think about Tom Brady in this situation.
Not everybody has to operate like Brady, but for a
many years, a lot of people, you know, erroneously had
Aaron Rodgers ranked ahead of Tom Brady. If Tom Brady
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wanted to continue his NFL career and met with the
team he had played for the last couple of years
and they just in twenty seconds say we're moving on,
we don't want you, do you think his reaction would
be like, yeah, I'm at peace with everything, I'm calm,
kind of complacent. There would be fire, ye like coming
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out of his ears. If there was an off on
the table and the team wanted to sign him, you
could do better than the Steelers. You could do a
whole lot worse. You think that Tom Brady is like, Eh,
I don't know, shrug shoulders. I'm not sure open to anything,
not committed yet, no way. That's the thing that drives
me crazy is there's just no competitive fire there at
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this point. It's like what getting your ig clicks where
you want them? Like, what do you do when at
this point? And that's where I'm at with Rogers? If
that story is true, how is this then your reaction
of I'm just open to anything, not committed to anything either,
it's like, bro, dude, like are we playing or not? Like,
if that's where you're at, competitively, call it a day.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
So I won't speak to the other other sports. I
don't know this to be the fact, I don't. I
don't know if you can play other sports at a
high level not being one hundred percent committed. I know
football you can't, right, Brian, Like it's either right you're
all the way in or all the way out. You
can't do this thing where you're sort of in and
and you know there are players who talk about this
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that are and to be fair, this is my last year.
So I my ninth year I came I was I
broke my ankle twice in a year. Essentially, three and
sixty four days apart, I broke my left leg, and
that was the end of my eighth year, was what
I did at the second time, And you know, I
went to Detroit my ninth year for office in program
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and training camp. I wasn't all in, you know, I
was trying to just play one more year. My mind
was set basically like, I just didn't want to end
my career on a KRT or an injury cart right. Essentially,
I wanted to walk off the field to end my career.
I just wasn't I wasn't all in, you know. Mentally,
I knew it was my last year in the NFL,
was my ninth year. My family was going to stay
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in Charlotte. We were having my second, my second kid,
my daughter, fairly close to training camp, and I basically
just wanted to end my career, not hurt, and just
make another year's salary. It was a minimum salary, it
was it was whatever, And uh yeah, predictably I sucked.
I wasn't good. I was older and beat up, and
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I wasn't mentally one hundred percent into into football. And
it's it's hard enough when you're all in football, you know,
and when you're not all in you should retire. And
you often hear guys talk about, you know that, that
idea of like when you start thinking about retirements, when
you should retire, Like when you start thinking about it,
is this my last year yet? Yes, it should be
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your last year, because I'm telling you, man, you always
to Ron Smith just retired the Cowboys legend. I bet
he's in the same boat where he probably thinks to himself, now,
I should have probably retired after the Cowboys. Yeah, just
you know, look, we all want to we all want
to keep playing. We all want to retire on our
own terms. But that's the reality of it. When you
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start thinking about retirements when you should retire, it's hard
to do that because there are times obviously that you
can think about retirement on the line, I want to
retire in three years. But if you start thinking about
it like this, like you know what, I think this
is my last year, that's fine to play through that.
But if you're like I kind of want to retire
before training camp, you just retire, man, Like you should
(15:13):
just do it. Yeah, it's hard to play the sport
not all in. It does feel like Rogers has not
been all in. And but what all in does not
mean that you can't have a side hustle. You can
have a podcast and play football, though those can happen now.
If you do that, screwedy is gonna come to your direction,
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like Micha Parsons is finding out right, you can do
other things and and be all in on football. I
think people think you can only do football. No, that's
not that's not true. You can do other things. But
the second you start having those should I retire? Should
I not? In your brain, it's probably you're probably closer
to retirement than you think.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Right, And especially when a team just kicks you to
the curb, like how are you not fired up?
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Right?
Speaker 1 (16:01):
If you want to like shove it in their face
and I can still play that. There's none of that
there with Rogers in that interview. Nothing.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
And if you're the Steelers, I think you listen to
that and you're like, I just don't want that. I
want your point I haven't thought about. That's a really
good point. Like I want a guy all in. I
want a guy yeah, who's who's committed to showing everyone
I still got it. And I think for Rogers too,
like he's lives in this fancy world of waiting for
the perfect opportunity. When you're his age, there's no perfect opportunity,
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man Like you've won your super Bowl, Yeah, you've won
your MVPs. Anywhere you go, it's not going to be
the great, great situation unless it's Minnesota. It's still I
guess maybe I think he's holding out. I hope that
McCarthy has a tough training camp or something, maybe someone
gets hurt in the preseason. But there's there's no perfect
situation to go to right now because everyone has their
quarterback spots filled. And if you're waiting for the opportunity
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for the perfect you're not going to find it. And
that's why I think it's he just should tell you
how I'm done, man like going to your broadcasting career,
your part, whatever you whatever podcast, You're gonna do that
Eric grievances for for minutes at a time on your own podcast.
So yeah, that's I'm with you. I think it's time
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to hang him up. It's time to be done. Oh
I don't know Roger as well. I just know him
based off of what I hear him say you went
to grew with all things, he says, and I certainly do,
but it does not take away with the fact that
he is a first Battle Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
He's absolutely a football player, and absolutely he will walk.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Right in the Hall of Fame as soon as he retires.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
And that's why any team is still interested at this
absolutely because of what he's done before. All right, he
Jeff Schwartz, I'm Brian Now. Coming up next, the NFL
Draft begins on Thursday, but the NBA Playoff Draft begins next.
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Speaker 5 (18:01):
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Speaker 1 (18:14):
App's Jeff Schwartz, I'm Brian. No, We're in for two
Pros and a cup of Joe here on Fox Sports
Radio live from the Tirack dot Com studios. Okay, Jeff,
so NFL Draft around the corner on Thursday, that's where
it begins. Why can't we do an NBA playoff draft?
This is your concoction over here.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
So the idea is we're just gonna draft who we
think will be winning teams in the first round of
the NBA Playoffs, and it begins tomorrow. Of course, the
last two play in games for tonight, but the official
playoffs begin tomorrow. So I think we should do snake order, right, Like,
if you get the first pick, I go two to three,
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then you go four or five? Right, you want the
first pick? What do you think you'd defer to the
second half or you want to go first.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I'll take the first pick just I can pick the Lakers. No,
I'm kidding, what do you You're the host, You let
me know. What do you want to do? You want
to go worst, go for it? Okay, start off here.
You know what I'm gonna I'm gonna take the Thunder
just because I know much you love them and I
want to steal them from you. Thunder will play obviously
the winner tonight. I think they I will say this though,
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I think the Mavericks will be interesting in this series
because of the talent they have. They're just not good enough.
I think obviously over seven games. Okay, do you think
this is more likely a sweep or a six game
series win for the Thunder?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I could. I think it's it's either a sweep or
it's five. I don't see it going beyond five.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Okay, that's true. Yeah, I just was it was interested
about about that. I think this it could could be
interesting Dallas. You know, they have veterans, and they have
guys that have been here before and one championship. So
I don't know if it'll be a complete pushover, but
I think obviously that they get it done. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I think without Kyrie, without having your full compliment there
against Okac, that that's a lot to ask, that's a lot.
I like their front court. Like their front court is
basically the opposite of the Lakers front court. I'm not
trying to bash your Lakers just for no good reason,
but when the MAVs have Anthony Davis and Derek Lively
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and Gafford, that that's a legit front court. That's a
good front line. And uh, I mean that that could
be problematic at times depending on who the matchup is against.
But it's just too much defense, too much depth, too
much scoring from Okac. I don't see the MAVs shorthanded
getting any more. That's provided they're even there. You know,
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if it's against the Grizzlies, even that's going to be
really tough for the grizz With John Morant banged up.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I think I just don't see either because probably get
in the series.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah, I think that, Okay, so I'll go next, I'll
take the Celtics. I think they're gonna just lam based
the magic. I can't believe the betting line. The betting
line it was Celtics to win the series minus ten thousand.
You'd have to lay ten thousand dollars to win one
hundred dollars. That's how massive of a favorite they are.
That's crazy to me. So I think they're gonna win
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the series. But that's wow, that's insane. I'll go with
the Celtics and then I'll also take the Cavs. Those
would be my two picks. Yeah, the next two? Who
do you like?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
The next two? Okay? I do the Lakers beat the Timberwolves.
I was I to my my podcast yesterday Bear Bets.
A couple people we had on there, like like the
Timberwolves is a live dog here, don't. I just don't
see it, do you see it?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I think they're a live dog. Yeah, I do think
they're live. But the thing that worries me their biggest strength, well,
one of their biggest strengths is to go bear, and
it's a liability in this particular matchup, you know, because
the Lakers, they spread you out. All their dudes can shoot.
So it's like, is Rudy Gobert even gonna be on
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the floor. Are they just gonna say, hey, Rudy's on
the floor, We're gonna just pound you on the glass
because you have nobody there, or they just do like
a Zach Edy. Remember how Zach Edy was on the
floor against the Warriors and they were targeting him. He
was a liability, but he had seventeen rebounds. Like what
did the Timberwolves do? That's my question with Rudy how
much is he playing? Because he might just get phased
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out of this series and I think he could be
doing real work on the glass. I just don't know
if they're gonna have him out there.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I also do wonder you know it also too, like
are the Lakers who's guarding Anthony Edwards nobody, right, I
mean that, Yeah, they're.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Gonna gonna have to eat that one. They're gonna same
thing with Luca. Who's guarding Luca? No one, no one.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Don't feel like there's gonna be a high scoring game.
So okay, Lakers over the Wolves. Lakers, by the way,
it's been very good at two things this year, home
games and against the Western Conference. Believe it or not,
they have a great Western Conference record, Brian, I think
it's something like twenty games over five hundred, which is
pretty good, right. I think they have the second best
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conference record of any team besides Okay CE this season.
So but Cleveland in the West, Yeah, they're Lakers. Are
are thirty thirty six and sixteen in conference this year.
Oklahoma City is thirty nine and thirteen. So they played
well in conference this season. So it was good to note.
I have one more.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Pair though, Like, how would they be iffy against the East.
That's weird for you know.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, I mean I guess maybe they. I don't know.
It doesn't have It's funny it doesn't have a record
for the Eastern Conference in the standing stem looking at
it just has conference record. They have not been as
good on the road. They're nineteen to twenty two at home,
but thirty one and ten at home.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Wow, that's yeah, it's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Actually might be the best outside of Cleveland, the best
record in the second best record the NBA home. Okay, okay,
one more pick right. Yeah, I feel like this is
early to do this, but I do like this tea.
I think the Rockets beat the Warriors in this series. Yeah,
I am. I think we're paying a warrior's tax a
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little bit. I am in a state where legal sports
wagering is not capable. I have been jaunting over to
North Carolina. It's a twenty minute drive about every other day.
To put it some Wayderson and Brian, I put like
five draft wainders in a CBS parking lot and right
over the border yesterday like at the dinnerant, and I
just drove right back and continue my life. I'm waiting
(24:49):
to put some money on the Rockets to win this series. Yeah,
this feels like a warrior's tax, right, it does. The
Warriors there they this is it sounds mean, but like
they're old. Okay, and the longer the series goes, their
legs as can get more shot Curzon one hundred percent.
(25:10):
We saw even last the other night start fast Wanne
the second half sort of got lucky to escape that.
You know, that was the first win in a playoff.
It's to be a playing game since this new format started.
So I think the Rockets are young, yes they are,
But I like the Rockets to win this series.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah, yeah, I don't hate that. I think they're absolutely live.
Jabari Smith has been banged up. That's a little bit
troublesome right there. But I think Shane goon Man, if
you're looking for prop, that's some of his rebounding numbers.
The Warriors are just small, They're just short, you know.
I think Shing goon can eat on the glass. Steven Adams,
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you can bring him in as a role player. You know,
they can do damage on the boards. And then also,
you know, we always talk about Houston, who's a young team.
The Warriors have much more veteran players. We get that,
but but j is a young guy. He doesn't have
all this tremendous postseason experience, you know what I mean, Like,
so he might be in a big moment, need to
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hit a big shot. So it's not just the Rockets
being young. Fred Van Vliet has won a championship, you
know what I mean, Like he's been around the block,
so it's not just these babies in the playoffs. I
think sometimes we take it a little bit too far
with the Rockets because they do actually have in instances
with some players, some postseason experience, and some advantages in
the in the matchup there. So yeah, I think they're live. Okay,
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I'll go with I like the Knicks. I think the
Knicks move past the Pistons. Pistons have had a really,
really good turnaround this season, but I just think that
the Knicks have a little bit too much in that matchup.
Cad Cunningham has been tremendous, but I just don't trust
the Pistons in the playoffs yet. And when you have
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the scoring ability of Brunson and Kat and the Knicks,
it's a pretty good basketball teams. I'll take them and
at least that matchup, and I'll go with the Clippers.
I love Jokic, I love the Nuggets, but they just
don't play defense. The Clippers defense, Jeff is world's better
than Denver's defense, and so as Nico Harrison says, defense
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wins championships, right, how can you go against that, but
I like the Clippers slightly against the Nuggets. I'll take
them from my final pick. So you got the Bucks
Pacers series here.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
So Lillard is not playing Game one, but might play
the rest of the series. I had that right.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Maybe maybe we'll see. Yeah, he's at least out for
game one. Who knows after that?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, all right, Uh, can I just take the over
every and every game.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
The Bucks? We run and scored a lot of points
late we run in that.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Back I remember like Celtics, Uh, Pacers just bet the
over every game, last to last to last postseason.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
And we made the mistake of keep writing like Sam Houser,
who was it that series or earlier in the playoffs
could not buy three?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I think it was. And it was that that serious.
I just you're like, yeah, the Indian doesn't guard anybody.
Let's take Houser and it's just yeah, it didn't didn't
work out quite like we thought it would. So I'll
take I'll take the Pacers here. I'll just take home
home court and take the Pacers.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, that's a tricky one. I think the Bucks are
live in that one too. You might end up being
right on that one, but the Bucks are a goofy team.
They really are, because I could see them losing to
the Pacers. I could see him winning. The status with
Dame is weird, Like is he is he gonna play
from like game two or game three on? We have
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no idea, So it's it's a weird dynamic right there.
How about your finals matchup? What do you see in
the finals? Who do you see winning this whole thing?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I mean, I know it's so chalky just to put
the Celtics and uh and the Thunder and there, But.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Oh jeez, that's so I see. Yeah, I don't think there's.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
An Actually think that the maybe the best value in
the term in this is like I was looking at
this yesterday, would like a Donovan Mitchell to win the
m v P is plus one thousand the finals MVP. Yeah,
is that like the best value if the Calves make
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it there?
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I mean, I have a hard time seeing the Calves winning.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I just so, I guess, I guess that's a long
way to say that. Probably the Thunder. I guess. I
I will bet Lakers to lose the conference finals plus
two ninety. I like that a lot. Yeah, I think
the Lakers can get to the Western Conference Finals and
lose their I think the Thunder are very complete, and
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I just think the Celtics, you know, they're so they're
such hot and cold shooters that with the defense that
is played by the Thunder, I think it'd be hard.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah, if it's in the East, if it's Celtics and Calves,
Boston's defense against the Calves offense, that'll be a lot
of fun to watch. Because there are times where Donovan Mitchell,
he'll be extraordinary in a game and then he'll just
freaking disappear. He just doesn't have it that night, you know,
And so I want to see if he's going up
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against Drew Holliday and all the defenders that the Celtics
can throw at you. That's the number one offense in
the NBA this season is the Calves. So to see
the Calves go against the Celtics defense, that'd be a
lot of fun. That should be your Eastern Conference Finals matchup.
But who knows, man, that's why they.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Played these and the best finals matchup would be Celtics Thunder, right.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
I think so absolutely. I do. Hey, man, I think
same thing. You know, if the Calves made it there
to see the Caves offense go up against okc's defense.
That'd be cool too. I mean, that'd be a great matchup.
But I think with the defending champs and the Celtics,
they're more household names. You know, when you have Tatum
and Brown and you have all these guys memorized with
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Holliday and Derek White and perzingis now my guy Al Horford,
you know. Uh So to have them as defending champs
against the young guns with the Thunder, I think that
would be a tremendous matchup. As a basketball fan, I'm
hoping for Celtics Thunder in the final.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, I'm hoping for Lakers, but I understand that that's
right unlikely to happen.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Doesn't this go against your betting principle there, Jeff? Not
going against your teams? What is it with you wing
on the Lakers to lose in the conference finals.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
It's actually a good question. Does go against my principals? Well,
I am not, I guess, wagering on them to lose
a specific game, but I guess I will be. I
will be. Yeah, I just think that's a I think
it's just a good wager.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah, I do too. I like that bet. It makes
a lot of sense to me. This is crazy too
with OKC, so they have the best point differential in
any regular season in the history of the NBA. They've
won games this whole season by an average of twelve
point nine points per game. Think about that, like any
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loss obviously hurts your average. If you win by Okay,
we beat this team by six points, well that's not
beating them by thirteen. You know they're blowing teams out.
It's the best point differential ever, and it matters like
it shows how much depth you have, It shows how
much star power you have, shows their defense shows everything
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everybody else on this list. It's just like title, title, title.
If you have a point differential, that's that good. It's
like seventy one Bucks title, seventy two Lakers title, like
sixteen Warriors, the seventy two Win Bowls. All these teams
are on that list with the point differential like that.
The thunder World plus one thousand and five points. They
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outscored their opponents by one thousand and five points over
the regular season.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
That's a ton it is. I remember the Lakers in
thunder played not not the last week when they played
back to back they played I don't know three, four
or fourth before that. I was watching the end of
that game. The Thunder made like seventh threes in a
row to go like to win by twenty five. I
mean it just when teams start making shots like that,
there's just no chance.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yeah, I know it. And they can also they can
just lock you down, you know, lou Dort, the Dorcher chamber,
they can defend. So I think they're going to be
really tough to be. You could look at their youth
and sure, that's that's a factor potentially. But yeah, they
had a lot of strengths.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Man, are we doing the hockey one next?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yeah? You want to run it back with that the
hockey draft. I got the Jets.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Get the Jets. I'll tell you what. The Blues, who
they play? The Blues are a live a live dog there, buddy.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
You've been all over the hockey bets this year. Blues
score a lot of goals, take the overs, you know.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Possibly, but yeah, I uh, I'll be in the hockey
hockey playoffs for fun.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Man, you ever get down with team total overs or
unders in hockey?
Speaker 2 (34:21):
You ever do all the time? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yeah, okay, because I know you do like the first
ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Will there be a that that trend has died? I
stopped about a month ago. But I'll take like team
totals in game two, I think I took I think
I took someone. I took maybe Calgary last night team
total over after the first period of zero zero, I
thought they would score some goals. I took someone over
last night. Last night was obviously the final week of
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the season, so it's easier to sort of do some
of these. Forgot what I can't even check what I
did last night. But yeah, I'll take team totals over.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Okay, get down with that. That's good, very nice, allright?
Coming up next, He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
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Speaker 1 (34:59):
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Speaker 1 (35:23):
He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian, No, we're in for two
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All right, Jeff, So, college football, we got a new
rule over here trying to cut down on the faking
of injuries. It's been a big deal here. We got
hurry up offenses and sometimes a defender will look to
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the sideline and his coach will kind of like scratch
his right eyebrow and then just go like, go down,
go go down, fake an injury. So they're trying to
crack down on that. Do you like what they've come
up with? So here's the deal. If the ball has
been spotted by the officiating crew and a player goes down,
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that team will be charged a time out, and if
they don't have any timeouts, it's going to be a
five yard delay of game penalty. That good enough for you?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Sure? I mean, how often is the injury is being faked?
I guess there's a question. So yeah, I think that's fair. Yeah,
I'm just something different on it.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Sure doesn't really bother you.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Doesn't really bother me. It's all part of the gamesmanship
I think of the game. But Yes, this seems fair, right,
I think it's fair.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I'd go a little harsher. I would because here's the thing,
man is, you could still skirt around this. You could
still I guess you have to plan and advance a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Where fall down before the ball spotted.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Right, you could still do that, So you could still.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
How do you know? How do you really know if
a guy's hurt or not hurt? You want to punish
a team for one of guys. Actually, I remember this
happened in the NFL. Remember Cam Jordan got got I
think that the Saints and Cam Jordan got fined because
the NFL claimed that they were faking injury. It turns
out they weren't faking an injury and they received it everything.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
That's right. Yeah, I don't think you want that either, right, No,
you don't. And that's the danger of this.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Yeah. Do we lose Brian?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
He seems to have been gone displaced?
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Brian? Are you there? Is Brian there? No? Maybe Brian's
not there, Brian disappears just me. Well, I'll say this.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
When it's a legit injury, like, it's a tough thing.
You have to have some sort of language. You have
to have some sort of trigger of the penalty, and
the best they came up with is if you go
down after the ball is spotted. They're trying to cut
down on it. It's been a problem in college football,
some of these old miss games when they're faking injuries.
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They're not the only ones. It's embarrassing. You gotta do
something about it. It's the best they could come up with.
I'd make it more. I'd make it at least a
ten yard penalty. If the penalty is strong enough, that's
what's gonna prevent it from happening. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
I don't think Brian can hear us. Brian, can you
hear us? I guess he cannot. So I will take
us to break way back in a few minutes. Two pros,
A couple of Joe
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tire buying should be. All right, Jeff So Aaron Rodgers.
He made his first public comments since being released by
the Jets in March. He was on the Pat McAfee
show yesterday. And there's a reason why I didn't bring
him up in the first hour. It's just too early
in the morning, you know what I mean. Like, it's
just I think we had to like ramp up to
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Did we.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Never talk about him again? Does he just go away?
Like we just never? We decided today moving forward, I
never mentioned Aaron Rodgers name again. I mean, the only
reason we ever hear what he has to say is
because of Pat McAfee. Yeah, that show. That's not his fault.
I mean, your his job is to get on interesting guests.
But like if we just never talked abut Aaron Rodgers. Again,
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I think we would be better as football fans.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Maybe maybe, but at the risk of just harming your
general well being. Right here we have some cuts of
Aaron Rodgers on the Pat McAfee show. Okay, now this
first one, this is a monstrous cut, Jeff. This might
be remember like Happy Gilmore, where, like Adam said Sandler
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in the movie, he had his happy place and then
he had like the nightmare place. This might be your
nightmare place, you know, where everything just goes haywire goes wrong.
It's a tremendous story. Though. He's talking about flying across
the country to meet with the Jets in person, Like,
what's gonna happen? Are they interested in having me stay
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with the Jets? What's the deal here? So this story
he meets with Aaron Glenn, the new head coach, and
I just think it's a funny story. So try this
on for size. We'll react to it the whole nine yards.
Here you go, here's Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I figured that when I flew across country on my
own dime, that there was going to be a conversation.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
And the confusing thing to me and the strange thing was.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
You know, when I went out there, I meet with
the coach, we start talking, he runs out of the room.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I'm like, that's kind of strange.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I was like.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Then he comes back with the GM and I'm like,
all right, So we sit down in the office and
I think we're going to have this long conversation. I've
flown across the country, and twenty seconds in he goes,
I mean literally, I'm talking to the GM about something.
And he leans to the edge of his sheet and goes,
should you want to play football? I was like, yeah,
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I'm interested, and he said we're going a different direction
in quarterback, and.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I was kind of shocked. Now, not shocked because I
didn't think that was a possibility.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Listen, of course they want to move on, that's totally fine,
but shocked because I just flew across the country. You
could have told me this on the phone if weren't
even going to have a conversation.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
And this is verbatim exactly how it happened.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
So I said, huh, and he goes, we just want
to know how you want it released the messaging, and
I said, verbatim, I don't give a shit about the message,
and I said why, and then he said, I don't
want to be up in front of the room saying
something and have guys looking back at you. And I said,
what does that even mean? Are you assuming that I
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would be in the back of the room during the
team meeting, undermining what you're saying. I said, you don't
know me, and he said you don't know me, and
then I said, exactly, which is why I flew across
the country to have a face to face meeting with you,
to talk about my experience with the Jets and to
hear your vision for the team. Twenty seconds in, what
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I thought was going to be a couple hour meeting
turned into like a fifteen minute meeting and I walked
out of there.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
There you go, that was Aaron Rodgers meeting with Aaron Glenn.
Do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Hmm? Wow? I thought there thought some prayers, buddy. Well,
so he got total these cut twenty seconds in and they
met for another fourteen minutes and forty seconds. Is that
what I'm that's I'm supposed to gather from this discussion.
I guess that they told him he's been released. I've
been released before. I'm not Aaron Rodgers I didn't talk
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to the head coach on the manager for another fourteen
and a half minutes afterwards. Right, he said he got
cut in the first twenty seconds, and then he stayed
there for fifteen more minutes to talk about what the
vision was. I guess I don't what are they talking
for fifteen minutes that you've been released?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Have you ever pretty much the end of the conversation,
you've ever been.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Fired and then talked to your firer for fifteen more
minutes afterwards? I know, I haven't. Look, these stories are
always one sided, right, Yeah, it's always what Aaron Rodgers
says happened, because what the jet A knocker, a feud.
I don't care what you don't watch on the team anymore.
They don't care how he's portrayed. It's just you know,
you have that friend probably in your life who just
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is always complaining about something, and eventually you're like, yeah,
I just I'm not engaging with that person anymore. All
Aaron Rodgers does is vent to complain about things in life.
When is he ever happy about something? When does he
ever get on? To be fair, I don't listen to
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him on any show, so maybe I only see the
negative stuff that he talks about. It's just always a vent,
sash Man, to drain it draining, just to hear him
complain all each and every week about something in life.
He's still talking about COVID five years later.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
You know, he reminds me a lot of Draymond Green.
It just popped in my head because Draymond does similar
things where listen, it's all one sided, just like you said,
Draymond will he might do something crazy on the court,
but it's it's always like why was this call made?
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And what about this? And what about that? And it's
like Draymond you you like need the guy in the
groin that that's on you.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Rogers has less has less groin shots in his career
than in Dreymond.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
That's right, right, But it's similar right where it is
it's just one sided. It's I'm the victim. It's I
don't know where these people are getting their information. That's
not what happened. Is It can't only be that way
all the time. It just can't.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Like I look, certainly, Aaron Rodgers, that story might be
one real I'm not starting quarterback. I'm not a Hall
of Fame quarterback, which he will be. He'll be a
first Pell Hall of Famer. No matter how you feel
about his opinions on COVID and the vaccine and and life.
He's a first Pell Hall of Famer. There's no doubt
about it. When the best quarterbacks ever play that, that
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speech is gonna be. Oh boy, to call it the
Hall of Fame, It's gonna be something, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
That's gonna be Jordan esque, Yeah, calling everybody out.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah, it's just gonna be. Yeah. Look, I like the
Hall of Fame speeches. All listen. That's one time I
will listen to Aaron Rodgers. I promise you that I'll
listen to his Hall of Fame speech. I just don't
do the conversation going like that. I'm not gonna lie.
You also have to be in town to at some
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point to sign your release papers, at least I when
I've been cut, I've had to go sign papers to
be released. So he had to be in New York
at some point. Now, the team often pays for that flight,
not Aaron Rodgers, and so you know, you know, did
he call them beforehand and say, hey, man, like, let's
have this discussion. I'm flying to town. Did he just
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show up place. There's so many questions that need to
be answered. I think about the situation. I just don't
believe he got released and spent fifteen minutes talking to
Aaron Glenn afterwards. You know, like that's probably not how
this whole thing went down. And I would imagine that
they talked to it and they're like, yeah, we're releasing you,
like you know it was. The decision was already made
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before and Rogers got there, because that's the way it
works in that position, and the teams know what they're
gonna do ahead of time with a lot of personnel decisions.
But you know, I if you're at Pittsburgh or the
Vikings or the Giants, right and he's signing up for
this this.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
It's a lot. There's a lot there. It's like it's
a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And I think he said the reports are that you know,
he's he'sidering a retirement, and I mean it sounds like
he wants attention when you listen to him talk about it.
And it's like, if you're Pittsburgh, you have to go
into next Thursday thinking about we got to get a quarterback,
right because Rogers, if you want to be a Steeler,
he'd be a Steeler. So that's that the point, he
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has a contract available to him, he's passing up the opportunity.
That's totally his call. If you want to retire, go
ahead and retire. But this this creeve and airing every week,
and just like, why would you want that in your
locker room?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I don't know. Yeah, part of your team. I get it.
He's talented and he was kind of productive last year.
It wasn't a debacle, like in terms of his numbers, right,
it was okay.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
You know what's interesting too, is like you talk to
those teammates in Green Bay and they all like him.
It's so funny because you just don't see that from
him now. And I'm not saying that Jets teammates didn't
like him, but you don't hear anyone coming out of
defending and who played with him in New York, you know,
but you hear you see these Packers guys, and I
believe them when they say they like playing on and
Roger and they're friendly with him. But I could just do.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Without Roger, Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Hey, the thing about it, we talked we started the
show with Corso, right and how interesting and how fun
Corso was. I just don't find this interesting at all.
It doesn't it doesn't challenge me mentally. I don't have
to think very much to come up with any sort
of anti Rogers take or like just it's just so uninterested.
I'm just uninterested, and Roger.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I'm the opposite way because some of the things that
he says, I'm like, okay, if you tell that's For instance,
he tells that long story about Aaron Glenn. Okay, he
flew all across the country, you know, on his own dime,
like he stressed, he's I paid for it, neither paid
for it, just so you know, I saw my own dime.
He flew all the way over there. And then twenty
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seconds in Aaron Glenn is the bad guy and says
we're going in a different direction. It's like, why didn't
you just tell me that on the phone?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Could have been the way it went down, who knows.
But if that's true, then how is then this his reaction.
He also said this in the same interview about where
he stands right now as a free agent.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
To anything and attached to nothing.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
So so yeah, retirement still could be could be a possibility.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Okay, so that's the part that I hate Jeff where Okay,
let's just let's walk down this road and just assume
for a minute that what he said about Aaron Glenn
and meeting with the Jets was exactly the way it
went down. Let's just live in that world for a second.
So how is this your reaction to all of that,
which is, you know, I don't know, not really committed
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to anything, open minded to everything. See how it goes,
maybe I retire. I think about Tom Brady in this situation.
Not everybody has to operate like Brady, but for a
many years, a lot of people, you know, erroneously had
Aaron Rodgers ranked ahead of Tom Brady. If Tom Brady
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wanted to continue his NFL career and met with the
team he had played for the last couple of years
and they just in twenty seconds say we're moving on,
we don't want you, do you think his reaction would
be like, yeah, I'm at peace with everything, I'm calm,
kind of complacent. There would be fire, ye like coming
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out of his ears. If there was an off on
the table and the team wanted to sign him, you
could do better than the Steelers. You could do a
whole lot worse. You think that Tom Brady is like, Eh,
I don't know, shrug shoulders. I'm not sure open to anything,
not committed yet, no way. That's the thing that drives
me crazy is there's just no competitive fire there at
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this point. It's like what getting your ig clicks where
you want them? Like, what do you do when at
this point? And that's where I'm at with Rogers? If
that story is true, how is this then your reaction
of I'm just open to anything, not committed to anything either,
it's like, bro, dude, like are we playing or not? Like,
if that's where you're at, competitively, call it a day.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
So I won't speak to the other other sports. I
don't know this to be the fact, I don't. I
don't know if you can play other sports at a
high level not being one hundred percent committed. I know
football you can't, right, Brian, Like it's either right you're
all the way in or all the way out. You
can't do this thing where you're sort of in and
and you know there are players who talk about this
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that are and to be fair, this is my last year.
So I my ninth year I came I was I
broke my ankle twice in a year. Essentially, three and
sixty four days apart, I broke my left leg, and
that was the end of my eighth year, was what
I did at the second time, And you know, I
went to Detroit my ninth year for office in program
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and training camp. I wasn't all in, you know, I
was trying to just play one more year. My mind
was set basically like, I just didn't want to end
my career on a KRT or an injury cart right. Essentially,
I wanted to walk off the field to end my career.
I just wasn't I wasn't all in, you know. Mentally,
I knew it was my last year in the NFL,
was my ninth year. My family was going to stay
(13:51):
in Charlotte. We were having my second, my second kid,
my daughter, fairly close to training camp, and I basically
just wanted to end my career, not hurt, and just
make another year's salary. It was a minimum salary, it
was it was whatever, And uh yeah, predictably I sucked.
I wasn't good. I was older and beat up, and
(14:11):
I wasn't mentally one hundred percent into into football. And
it's it's hard enough when you're all in football, you know,
and when you're not all in you should retire. And
you often hear guys talk about, you know that, that
idea of like when you start thinking about retirements, when
you should retire, Like when you start thinking about it,
is this my last year yet? Yes, it should be
(14:31):
your last year, because I'm telling you, man, you always
to Ron Smith just retired the Cowboys legend. I bet
he's in the same boat where he probably thinks to himself, now,
I should have probably retired after the Cowboys. Yeah, just
you know, look, we all want to we all want
to keep playing. We all want to retire on our
own terms. But that's the reality of it. When you
(14:52):
start thinking about retirements when you should retire, it's hard
to do that because there are times obviously that you
can think about retirement on the line, I want to
retire in three years. But if you start thinking about
it like this, like you know what, I think this
is my last year, that's fine to play through that.
But if you're like I kind of want to retire
before training camp, you just retire, man, Like you should
(15:13):
just do it. Yeah, it's hard to play the sport
not all in. It does feel like Rogers has not
been all in. And but what all in does not
mean that you can't have a side hustle. You can
have a podcast and play football, though those can happen now.
If you do that, screwedy is gonna come to your direction,
(15:35):
like Micha Parsons is finding out right, you can do
other things and and be all in on football. I
think people think you can only do football. No, that's
not that's not true. You can do other things. But
the second you start having those should I retire? Should
I not? In your brain, it's probably you're probably closer
to retirement than you think.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Right, And especially when a team just kicks you to
the curb, like how are you not fired up?
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Right?
Speaker 1 (16:01):
If you want to like shove it in their face
and I can still play that. There's none of that
there with Rogers in that interview. Nothing.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
And if you're the Steelers, I think you listen to
that and you're like, I just don't want that. I
want your point I haven't thought about. That's a really
good point. Like I want a guy all in. I
want a guy yeah, who's who's committed to showing everyone
I still got it. And I think for Rogers too,
like he's lives in this fancy world of waiting for
the perfect opportunity. When you're his age, there's no perfect opportunity,
(16:34):
man Like you've won your super Bowl, Yeah, you've won
your MVPs. Anywhere you go, it's not going to be
the great, great situation unless it's Minnesota. It's still I
guess maybe I think he's holding out. I hope that
McCarthy has a tough training camp or something, maybe someone
gets hurt in the preseason. But there's there's no perfect
situation to go to right now because everyone has their
quarterback spots filled. And if you're waiting for the opportunity
(16:56):
for the perfect you're not going to find it. And
that's why I think it's he just should tell you
how I'm done, man like going to your broadcasting career,
your part, whatever you whatever podcast, You're gonna do that
Eric grievances for for minutes at a time on your own podcast.
So yeah, that's I'm with you. I think it's time
(17:17):
to hang him up. It's time to be done. Oh
I don't know Roger as well. I just know him
based off of what I hear him say you went
to grew with all things, he says, and I certainly do,
but it does not take away with the fact that
he is a first Battle Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
He's absolutely a football player, and absolutely he will walk.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Right in the Hall of Fame as soon as he retires.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
And that's why any team is still interested at this
absolutely because of what he's done before. All right, he
Jeff Schwartz, I'm Brian Now. Coming up next, the NFL
Draft begins on Thursday, but the NBA Playoff Draft begins next.
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Speaker 5 (18:01):
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Speaker 1 (18:14):
App's Jeff Schwartz, I'm Brian. No, We're in for two
Pros and a cup of Joe here on Fox Sports
Radio live from the Tirack dot Com studios. Okay, Jeff,
so NFL Draft around the corner on Thursday, that's where
it begins. Why can't we do an NBA playoff draft?
This is your concoction over here.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
So the idea is we're just gonna draft who we
think will be winning teams in the first round of
the NBA Playoffs, and it begins tomorrow. Of course, the
last two play in games for tonight, but the official
playoffs begin tomorrow. So I think we should do snake order, right, Like,
if you get the first pick, I go two to three,
(18:57):
then you go four or five? Right, you want the
first pick? What do you think you'd defer to the
second half or you want to go first.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I'll take the first pick just I can pick the Lakers. No,
I'm kidding, what do you You're the host, You let
me know. What do you want to do? You want
to go worst, go for it? Okay, start off here.
You know what I'm gonna I'm gonna take the Thunder
just because I know much you love them and I
want to steal them from you. Thunder will play obviously
the winner tonight. I think they I will say this though,
(19:24):
I think the Mavericks will be interesting in this series
because of the talent they have. They're just not good enough.
I think obviously over seven games. Okay, do you think
this is more likely a sweep or a six game
series win for the Thunder?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I could. I think it's it's either a sweep or
it's five. I don't see it going beyond five.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Okay, that's true. Yeah, I just was it was interested
about about that. I think this it could could be
interesting Dallas. You know, they have veterans, and they have
guys that have been here before and one championship. So
I don't know if it'll be a complete pushover, but
I think obviously that they get it done. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I think without Kyrie, without having your full compliment there
against Okac, that that's a lot to ask, that's a lot.
I like their front court. Like their front court is
basically the opposite of the Lakers front court. I'm not
trying to bash your Lakers just for no good reason,
but when the MAVs have Anthony Davis and Derek Lively
(20:29):
and Gafford, that that's a legit front court. That's a
good front line. And uh, I mean that that could
be problematic at times depending on who the matchup is against.
But it's just too much defense, too much depth, too
much scoring from Okac. I don't see the MAVs shorthanded
getting any more. That's provided they're even there. You know,
(20:49):
if it's against the Grizzlies, even that's going to be
really tough for the grizz With John Morant banged up.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I think I just don't see either because probably get
in the series.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah, I think that, Okay, so I'll go next, I'll
take the Celtics. I think they're gonna just lam based
the magic. I can't believe the betting line. The betting
line it was Celtics to win the series minus ten thousand.
You'd have to lay ten thousand dollars to win one
hundred dollars. That's how massive of a favorite they are.
That's crazy to me. So I think they're gonna win
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the series. But that's wow, that's insane. I'll go with
the Celtics and then I'll also take the Cavs. Those
would be my two picks. Yeah, the next two? Who
do you like?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
The next two? Okay? I do the Lakers beat the Timberwolves.
I was I to my my podcast yesterday Bear Bets.
A couple people we had on there, like like the
Timberwolves is a live dog here, don't. I just don't
see it, do you see it?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I think they're a live dog. Yeah, I do think
they're live. But the thing that worries me their biggest strength, well,
one of their biggest strengths is to go bear, and
it's a liability in this particular matchup, you know, because
the Lakers, they spread you out. All their dudes can shoot.
So it's like, is Rudy Gobert even gonna be on
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the floor. Are they just gonna say, hey, Rudy's on
the floor, We're gonna just pound you on the glass
because you have nobody there, or they just do like
a Zach Edy. Remember how Zach Edy was on the
floor against the Warriors and they were targeting him. He
was a liability, but he had seventeen rebounds. Like what
did the Timberwolves do? That's my question with Rudy how
much is he playing? Because he might just get phased
(22:32):
out of this series and I think he could be
doing real work on the glass. I just don't know
if they're gonna have him out there.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I also do wonder you know it also too, like
are the Lakers who's guarding Anthony Edwards nobody, right, I
mean that, Yeah, they're.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Gonna gonna have to eat that one. They're gonna same
thing with Luca. Who's guarding Luca? No one, no one.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Don't feel like there's gonna be a high scoring game.
So okay, Lakers over the Wolves. Lakers, by the way,
it's been very good at two things this year, home
games and against the Western Conference. Believe it or not,
they have a great Western Conference record, Brian, I think
it's something like twenty games over five hundred, which is
pretty good, right. I think they have the second best
(23:19):
conference record of any team besides Okay CE this season.
So but Cleveland in the West, Yeah, they're Lakers. Are
are thirty thirty six and sixteen in conference this year.
Oklahoma City is thirty nine and thirteen. So they played
well in conference this season. So it was good to note.
I have one more.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Pair though, Like, how would they be iffy against the East.
That's weird for you know.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, I mean I guess maybe they. I don't know.
It doesn't have It's funny it doesn't have a record
for the Eastern Conference in the standing stem looking at
it just has conference record. They have not been as
good on the road. They're nineteen to twenty two at home,
but thirty one and ten at home.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Wow, that's yeah, it's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Actually might be the best outside of Cleveland, the best
record in the second best record the NBA home. Okay, okay,
one more pick right. Yeah, I feel like this is
early to do this, but I do like this tea.
I think the Rockets beat the Warriors in this series. Yeah,
I am. I think we're paying a warrior's tax a
(24:27):
little bit. I am in a state where legal sports
wagering is not capable. I have been jaunting over to
North Carolina. It's a twenty minute drive about every other day.
To put it some Wayderson and Brian, I put like
five draft wainders in a CBS parking lot and right
over the border yesterday like at the dinnerant, and I
just drove right back and continue my life. I'm waiting
(24:49):
to put some money on the Rockets to win this series. Yeah,
this feels like a warrior's tax, right, it does. The
Warriors there they this is it sounds mean, but like
they're old. Okay, and the longer the series goes, their
legs as can get more shot Curzon one hundred percent.
(25:10):
We saw even last the other night start fast Wanne
the second half sort of got lucky to escape that.
You know, that was the first win in a playoff.
It's to be a playing game since this new format started.
So I think the Rockets are young, yes they are,
But I like the Rockets to win this series.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah, yeah, I don't hate that. I think they're absolutely live.
Jabari Smith has been banged up. That's a little bit
troublesome right there. But I think Shane goon Man, if
you're looking for prop, that's some of his rebounding numbers.
The Warriors are just small, They're just short, you know.
I think Shing goon can eat on the glass. Steven Adams,
(25:47):
you can bring him in as a role player. You know,
they can do damage on the boards. And then also,
you know, we always talk about Houston, who's a young team.
The Warriors have much more veteran players. We get that,
but but j is a young guy. He doesn't have
all this tremendous postseason experience, you know what I mean, Like,
so he might be in a big moment, need to
(26:08):
hit a big shot. So it's not just the Rockets
being young. Fred Van Vliet has won a championship, you
know what I mean, Like he's been around the block,
so it's not just these babies in the playoffs. I
think sometimes we take it a little bit too far
with the Rockets because they do actually have in instances
with some players, some postseason experience, and some advantages in
the in the matchup there. So yeah, I think they're live. Okay,
(26:31):
I'll go with I like the Knicks. I think the
Knicks move past the Pistons. Pistons have had a really,
really good turnaround this season, but I just think that
the Knicks have a little bit too much in that matchup.
Cad Cunningham has been tremendous, but I just don't trust
the Pistons in the playoffs yet. And when you have
(26:52):
the scoring ability of Brunson and Kat and the Knicks,
it's a pretty good basketball teams. I'll take them and
at least that matchup, and I'll go with the Clippers.
I love Jokic, I love the Nuggets, but they just
don't play defense. The Clippers defense, Jeff is world's better
than Denver's defense, and so as Nico Harrison says, defense
(27:12):
wins championships, right, how can you go against that, but
I like the Clippers slightly against the Nuggets. I'll take
them from my final pick. So you got the Bucks
Pacers series here.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
So Lillard is not playing Game one, but might play
the rest of the series. I had that right.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Maybe maybe we'll see. Yeah, he's at least out for
game one. Who knows after that?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, all right, Uh, can I just take the over
every and every game.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
The Bucks? We run and scored a lot of points
late we run in that.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Back I remember like Celtics, Uh, Pacers just bet the
over every game, last to last to last postseason.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
And we made the mistake of keep writing like Sam Houser,
who was it that series or earlier in the playoffs
could not buy three?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I think it was. And it was that that serious.
I just you're like, yeah, the Indian doesn't guard anybody.
Let's take Houser and it's just yeah, it didn't didn't
work out quite like we thought it would. So I'll
take I'll take the Pacers here. I'll just take home
home court and take the Pacers.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, that's a tricky one. I think the Bucks are
live in that one too. You might end up being
right on that one, but the Bucks are a goofy team.
They really are, because I could see them losing to
the Pacers. I could see him winning. The status with
Dame is weird, Like is he is he gonna play
from like game two or game three on? We have
(28:37):
no idea, So it's it's a weird dynamic right there.
How about your finals matchup? What do you see in
the finals? Who do you see winning this whole thing?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I mean, I know it's so chalky just to put
the Celtics and uh and the Thunder and there, But.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Oh jeez, that's so I see. Yeah, I don't think there's.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
An Actually think that the maybe the best value in
the term in this is like I was looking at
this yesterday, would like a Donovan Mitchell to win the
m v P is plus one thousand the finals MVP. Yeah,
is that like the best value if the Calves make
(29:23):
it there?
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I mean, I have a hard time seeing the Calves winning.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I just so, I guess, I guess that's a long
way to say that. Probably the Thunder. I guess. I
I will bet Lakers to lose the conference finals plus
two ninety. I like that a lot. Yeah, I think
the Lakers can get to the Western Conference Finals and
lose their I think the Thunder are very complete, and
(29:53):
I just think the Celtics, you know, they're so they're
such hot and cold shooters that with the defense that
is played by the Thunder, I think it'd be hard.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah, if it's in the East, if it's Celtics and Calves,
Boston's defense against the Calves offense, that'll be a lot
of fun to watch. Because there are times where Donovan Mitchell,
he'll be extraordinary in a game and then he'll just
freaking disappear. He just doesn't have it that night, you know,
And so I want to see if he's going up
(30:26):
against Drew Holliday and all the defenders that the Celtics
can throw at you. That's the number one offense in
the NBA this season is the Calves. So to see
the Calves go against the Celtics defense, that'd be a
lot of fun. That should be your Eastern Conference Finals matchup.
But who knows, man, that's why they.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Played these and the best finals matchup would be Celtics Thunder, right.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
I think so absolutely. I do. Hey, man, I think
same thing. You know, if the Calves made it there
to see the Caves offense go up against okc's defense.
That'd be cool too. I mean, that'd be a great matchup.
But I think with the defending champs and the Celtics,
they're more household names. You know, when you have Tatum
and Brown and you have all these guys memorized with
(31:08):
Holliday and Derek White and perzingis now my guy Al Horford,
you know. Uh So to have them as defending champs
against the young guns with the Thunder, I think that
would be a tremendous matchup. As a basketball fan, I'm
hoping for Celtics Thunder in the final.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, I'm hoping for Lakers, but I understand that that's
right unlikely to happen.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Doesn't this go against your betting principle there, Jeff? Not
going against your teams? What is it with you wing
on the Lakers to lose in the conference finals.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
It's actually a good question. Does go against my principals? Well,
I am not, I guess, wagering on them to lose
a specific game, but I guess I will be. I
will be. Yeah, I just think that's a I think
it's just a good wager.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah, I do too. I like that bet. It makes
a lot of sense to me. This is crazy too
with OKC, so they have the best point differential in
any regular season in the history of the NBA. They've
won games this whole season by an average of twelve
point nine points per game. Think about that, like any
(32:19):
loss obviously hurts your average. If you win by Okay,
we beat this team by six points, well that's not
beating them by thirteen. You know they're blowing teams out.
It's the best point differential ever, and it matters like
it shows how much depth you have, It shows how
much star power you have, shows their defense shows everything
(32:39):
everybody else on this list. It's just like title, title, title.
If you have a point differential, that's that good. It's
like seventy one Bucks title, seventy two Lakers title, like
sixteen Warriors, the seventy two Win Bowls. All these teams
are on that list with the point differential like that.
The thunder World plus one thousand and five points. They
(33:02):
outscored their opponents by one thousand and five points over
the regular season.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
That's a ton it is. I remember the Lakers in
thunder played not not the last week when they played
back to back they played I don't know three, four
or fourth before that. I was watching the end of
that game. The Thunder made like seventh threes in a
row to go like to win by twenty five. I
mean it just when teams start making shots like that,
there's just no chance.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yeah, I know it. And they can also they can
just lock you down, you know, lou Dort, the Dorcher chamber,
they can defend. So I think they're going to be
really tough to be. You could look at their youth
and sure, that's that's a factor potentially. But yeah, they
had a lot of strengths.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Man, are we doing the hockey one next?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yeah? You want to run it back with that the
hockey draft. I got the Jets.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Get the Jets. I'll tell you what. The Blues, who
they play? The Blues are a live a live dog there, buddy.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
You've been all over the hockey bets this year. Blues
score a lot of goals, take the overs, you know.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Possibly, but yeah, I uh, I'll be in the hockey
hockey playoffs for fun.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Man, you ever get down with team total overs or
unders in hockey?
Speaker 2 (34:21):
You ever do all the time? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yeah, okay, because I know you do like the first
ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Will there be a that that trend has died? I
stopped about a month ago. But I'll take like team
totals in game two, I think I took I think
I took someone. I took maybe Calgary last night team
total over after the first period of zero zero, I
thought they would score some goals. I took someone over
last night. Last night was obviously the final week of
(34:45):
the season, so it's easier to sort of do some
of these. Forgot what I can't even check what I
did last night. But yeah, I'll take team totals over.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Okay, get down with that. That's good, very nice, allright?
Coming up next, He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
No.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Are these penalty harsh enough? That is the question. We'll
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He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian, No, we're in for two
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All right, Jeff, So, college football, we got a new
rule over here trying to cut down on the faking
of injuries. It's been a big deal here. We got
hurry up offenses and sometimes a defender will look to
(35:46):
the sideline and his coach will kind of like scratch
his right eyebrow and then just go like, go down,
go go down, fake an injury. So they're trying to
crack down on that. Do you like what they've come
up with? So here's the deal. If the ball has
been spotted by the officiating crew and a player goes down,
(36:06):
that team will be charged a time out, and if
they don't have any timeouts, it's going to be a
five yard delay of game penalty. That good enough for you?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Sure? I mean, how often is the injury is being faked?
I guess there's a question. So yeah, I think that's fair. Yeah,
I'm just something different on it.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Sure doesn't really bother you.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Doesn't really bother me. It's all part of the gamesmanship
I think of the game. But Yes, this seems fair, right,
I think it's fair.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I'd go a little harsher. I would because here's the thing,
man is, you could still skirt around this. You could
still I guess you have to plan and advance a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Where fall down before the ball spotted.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Right, you could still do that, So you could still.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
How do you know? How do you really know if
a guy's hurt or not hurt? You want to punish
a team for one of guys. Actually, I remember this
happened in the NFL. Remember Cam Jordan got got I
think that the Saints and Cam Jordan got fined because
the NFL claimed that they were faking injury. It turns
out they weren't faking an injury and they received it everything.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
That's right. Yeah, I don't think you want that either, right, No,
you don't. And that's the danger of this.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Yeah. Do we lose Brian?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
He seems to have been gone displaced?
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Brian? Are you there? Is Brian there? No? Maybe Brian's
not there, Brian disappears just me. Well, I'll say this.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
When it's a legit injury, like, it's a tough thing.
You have to have some sort of language. You have
to have some sort of trigger of the penalty, and
the best they came up with is if you go
down after the ball is spotted. They're trying to cut
down on it. It's been a problem in college football,
some of these old miss games when they're faking injuries.
(38:05):
They're not the only ones. It's embarrassing. You gotta do
something about it. It's the best they could come up with.
I'd make it more. I'd make it at least a
ten yard penalty. If the penalty is strong enough, that's
what's gonna prevent it from happening. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
I don't think Brian can hear us. Brian, can you
hear us? I guess he cannot. So I will take
us to break way back in a few minutes. Two pros,
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