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I mean, it doesn't matter. I'm not selecting any more songs.
This is my last one. So whatever whatever that is
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Now y'all could change it. I'm out. I'm out on this.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
One.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I'm glad. I'm glad. I finished off on like a DC.
I mean, I could have did a Pittsburgh song to
finish out, but I'm not. I don't let y'all do it.
What y'all get one more chance to pick a song, y'all?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Like, what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
What do I mean? I'm out done?
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Is it over?
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I want you I want y'all to DJ. All right,
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Speaker 3 (01:23):
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Lorena's got it from here? You got it? You want
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Speaker 1 (01:40):
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Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
What do you want to pick?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Me?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Because I'm just you know, I like listening to my
music when I'm at home. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Don't you want to share it with the masses? Uh?
I share it with the masses. I post it on
my social media. Sometimes I use your social media post
to pick songs for your come back. Okay, I got
pretty good song selections on my social media, right you
King of the Mammals on I g By the way,
just typing.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
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Speaker 3 (02:13):
I give you a ton of content. I was out
that bad boy with the Stick City joint on yesterday
draft week, by the way, Yeah, I was sitting out
that joint, bucking ass, naked, enjoying myself. I'm talking about
you can enjoy your home. Don't don't be in it.
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Don't call it at home just because it's a house.
Don't make it a home.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
There you go, Hell yeah, I got you man. Good.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas
Knox with you. So we've got a situation in Boulder
that apparently is.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Now grown like a boulder on somebody shoulder, like that
type of deal.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Well, I guess kind of, I guess that could be
the that could be the case. So there was the
decision to retire the jersey numbers of Shador Sanders and
Travis Hunter over the weekend at the Colorado Spring Game,
and so the conversation was very heated for some people.
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They thought, you know, listen, Dion Figures should have his
number two retire.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
If he didn't get his.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Retired, these guys just left, They'd only been there a
short time.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Why would they get there? And so Brady's boy Joel
Klatt came out was like, yeah, why didn't Clack get
his number retire?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Cute mean when he would have left, it would have
made sense then based on what well, the justifications for Shador, well,
it's not damn. I mean, he set a bunch of records,
passing records during his time at Colorado. There you go,
and he had them competing in I believe back was
a Big eight. But he's competing for the Big eight,
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so you could have made the case. Look, this has
become very polarizing because it is coach Prime. It's it's
the Sanders family and then they tend to be able
to do that make waves. But there is some legitimate
questions that people have as to why now do we
have the sound on that.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Looking for it? There was no sound.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
We've been looking for it.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
We have look well not we, I mean he I
was just told that we were looking for it and
that we didn't find it.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
So the quote from Dion Sanders was the time frame.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Nobody's going to be happy with.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Can I find this to send it to Lee just
because it's going to take about thirty seconds of my time.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
He said he could not find it, and I quote
I looked everywhere, and I quote I looked everywhere for it.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I've already I've already found it. The promise he's gonna
have to search through when he says it, So there
might be a little turnaround time. But here you go, Lee,
let me copy and paste this to you.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Jesus, how was your white hood?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
It's not in there?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
But what?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Oh no, Lee, what are you talking about? It's a
nineteen minute post, you know spring game clip when he
said it? Yeah, okay, what's in there? You'd have to
find it. It might take a little work on your part.
How those numbers come along? Lyre almost there?
Speaker 6 (05:41):
They're almost there, dead buddy, Oh no, So I know, one, Jersey,
we won't be retiring after we get done.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
One to.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Come on?
Speaker 5 (05:57):
You know you wouldn't retire Lee's talk of Bahama man.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Back to the back to the original point though, and
did you actually read the whole quote?
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Read the whole quote from de Anders was the time
frame nobody's going to be happy with.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Somebody is always going to have something to say. But
the way.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
We're at right now, we are in the now generation.
Those guys deserve what they deserve right now. So I'm
proud of them. So okay.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
So so after saying that, my question is we're in
a now generation. If that's the case, who's he appeasing?
Like what he is he appeasing Travis and Shador and
maybe no one has a gripe with Travis. I mean
he made the comment and then they talked, you know,
post post spring game about well, what do we have
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to do in regards to you know, when this happens
because Rashaan Salaam, they they waited and he had passed away.
I think it was a year after he had passed,
and Coach Prian brought up the fact of what we
have to do wait till after they pass away? Is
that like in order to honor them? And so there's
a lot of truth in what he's saying. And again
I think the problem is is and maybe he's missing
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some of this is is no one has an issue
with Travis Hunter having his jersey retired. It's more about
Shador and whether or not it's justified. Now that's on
Colorado and you know, the AD and other people who
are a part of all this. What he But the
question still exists, who is he appeasing? Is it the fans?
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Was there an outcry from the fans for this? Was
there an outcry within the athletics department at Colorado? Is
he trying to appease? What he feels like is in
his mind like their program and doing this was going
to bring more fans to the spring game as kind
of part of this. So let's you know, showcase the
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success they had the past two years or were helping
to improve the program in the last two years. I mean,
unfortunately the fans didn't show out. I think his first
year it was, you know, a huge crowd, forty seven
thousand something along those lines. You know, last year it
was a little different because of the weather, so there's
only about twenty eight thousand, but a pretty dramatic drop
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from what it was. And then this year was about
twenty thousand reported it looked half that. You know, it
didn't look like there was a ton of fans there
for the spring game. So I'm just not sure who
that generation of now he's referring to outside of Travison
Shador And then that leads me to say, so, if
you're trying to make sure they feel the appreciation they
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deserve for what they've accomplished, what you could have done
then and especially as the head coach and probably should
have done, has gotten other guy's turch just retired, who
are deserving of that? And honestly, had he gotten Dion
Figures up there as well, Like literally just came out
and said, look, I think there's two players in Colorado
football history who deserve to have their number retired. But
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they're both happened that we were wearingumber two and this
could have been done a long time ago. But if
they would have put both Dion Figures and Shadoor Sanders
up there, I don't think any would have a gripe
with it. In fact, he would have come out better
for it, looking better for it, and people being like, Okay,
like that's pretty awesome, Like he feels like shad Door
it a lot, but also Deon Figures, who wasn't recognized
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for this and maybe should have been given the national
championship given the consensus, Aul American, Jim Thorpe, all those
things that now he's he's doing right by it. And
so if he had just included more players as opposed
to just Travis Hunter, just Shador Sanders, I don't think
this would even be a conversation. I think people would
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be looking at him saying, dang, dude, look at that,
like coach Promp sent it up. Even for former players,
generations everything else, getting their numbers retired too, because it's
been too long of a wait for them. But that's
the thing is, it wasn't everyone else. It was just
these two, and it was right now, and so it
feels like he's really just appeasing those two, like that's
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his own progative. He's the head coach, He's allowed to
do whatever he wants, he's a new contract and all that.
It just it feels like people are starting to get
a little bit worn down with some of this. And
I think the spring game attendance is part of that.
And we'll see how this season goes and what happens
with all of it, depending on how they how they do,
what kind of conversation we're having a year from now.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Respect first and foremost, Like I respect what what Prime
is doing and in terms of the the energy and
the level of relevance that he's brought to the program.
But let's be clear, Shador isn't even All American. He
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will not be.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
That's not true. What what he was he was first
and second team All American on some.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
On some what what what are the some? I'm I
don't I'm just telling you right now. But let's look
it up. Look it up. Look that one up for me.
I'm don't believe that he was was acknowledged as as.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
One hundred percent as the first or second team and
in most cases.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
But you see, I see all swack, I see Big twelve,
I see I see a lot. But maybe I'm wrong,
Maybe maybe I'm not. I don't. I don't think I'm wrong.
But all I'm saying is is he's definitely not as decoration.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Second team by the Associated Press, okay, second team college
Football Nework. I believe Box Toros some others had him
at his first team. Never heard of them. That's all
I'll say, is all I've said. Well, that's the promise.
There's a lot that no one's ever heard of now
that are coming up.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And I don't know the I mean, if it's AP,
I respect it. If it's coaches poll, I respect it.
If it's not one of those, like I don't really
all these other I don't really. You could say aflons,
you could say Street and Smith like I did like
Street and Smith. I ain't gonna lie, but I just listen.
My point is is that he probably won't be a
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Hall of Famer at the college level. Like I don't
even know that he won. Did they and win a
bowl game? Did they win a bowl game? No? I
just don't. I just you know, for me, I just
think that it's unfortunate that instead of keeping it in
a place and this is this is my ultimate point,
instead of keeping it in a place where you can
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look at him as an iconic figure just like Travis
Hunter and what they were able to accomplish at Colorado,
what they were able to accomplish in an HBCU, and
making Jackson State as relevant as they did, because Jackson
State benefited tremendously from the two of those guys as well,
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along with with coach Prime. I just I find it
to be sad that in doing this, it will totally
undermine how people feel about Shador Sanders and his career
because now you are forced to dissect his career. You
are if you're paying attention, and then you're forced to
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dissect the career because now you want to know why
is it worth it, why is it worthy to retire
his jersey? Like you know, saying that it's a now generation,
it's not a good enough that's not a good enough explanation,
you know, saying that if he wasn't a Sanders, it
wouldn't be a conversation. That's you're correct, because if you
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weren't a Sanders, his jersey wouldn't be getting retired. I mean,
let's be clear here. So I think that there are
a lot of circumstances here that I don't know that
shaudor I would say, I do know. Shador Sanders should
not be judged and Shador Sanders should not be ridiculed
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and and drug over the coals for this taking place.
I don't think it's on him. He's the player in
this situation. There are a lot of other elements, a
lot of other people that make decisions that made this happen.
I do not look at this as Shador Sanders went
to his dad or went to officials the a D
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at the university and was like, I need to have
my jersey retired. This is definitely something that scheme wise,
like you mentioned, maybe it's which this is way too
long term to leverage to try to get people to
come out to a spring game.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Like and I know the points you guys are making
is you know, like why now and and all that,
But isn't this also.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Partly I'm not saying why now, because I don't think
there should be a wow ever, like it shouldn't ever happen.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
But isn't like the people that are pushing back on
like Deon Figures who had a great career, great career,
and I think he just got into the College Football
Hall of Fame recent Yeah, especially so like isn't this
also partly on the school as well too, Like why
didn't they step in and retire his number earlier? Why
didn't they go in and and take care of it?
And I wonder if this is maybe Dion almost calling
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the school out in the university out, like hey, we
need to celebrate these players that we have now, and
he's using these guys to launch that you got to
keep momentum.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
The problem is because the retired Shorter Stators number, now
someone's gonna come up and say, man, when are we
going to retire don He just went to the College
Football Hall of Fame. You know. It's like, I mean,
given the recency of all this, but I understand what
you're saying that It's one of the reasons why I
brought that point up. It is like he could have
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been the good guy at all of this and now
it's like he's kind of taken more backlash from it
because because I don't think people are you know, dragging Shador,
you know, over the coals or the fire because of it.
I mean again, he had a great year, he kept
that team competitive, He they helped build up that program.
No one's going to deny that or take that away
from them. And ultimately the school was a part of
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the decision making process. It wasn't solely just you know,
coach Prime. So I don't I don't have an issue
one way or another. I just think when you do
something like this that it's probably going to be taken
as polarizing because it's never really happened this quick before.
It usually doesn't happen this quick in most places. You
got to be a little more thoughtful about your approach
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to it. And I think this could have been a
great opportunity because most spring games are a great opportunity
to bridge the past with the current and the future. Right.
Spring games are great opportunities for recruits. Spring games are
great opportunities to bring back former players and then bridge
that all together. And it would have showcase your program
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with all of it, and you can bring all of
it together, and so it could have been a really
big moment that I think was a missed opportunity for
Colorado to retire some other players like Dion Figures that
should have been in that conversation. And if you add
Shador's name up there next to Dion Figures, it would
be kind of unique because it would always have Coach
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Prime stamp of it and saying, wait, wait, how do
they retire two players with the same number, like usually
it just be one player and then that never got
worn after that, and you could have the whole explanation like, yeah,
when Coach Prime got here, we actually hadn't retired a
player's number in a while. We thought it would make
some sense to retire a bunch of guys that had
been waiting way too long. One of the other things
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that I saw and I wouldn't ask you, guys, because
I was reading this thinking, that's not necessarily the worst thing,
and I'd kind of mentioned this, it's one of the
reasons why you do it now, because you know people
would say, well, why don't you do it a year
from now or two years from now? Have these guys
come back for a Colorado game? And I was thinking well,
they're both me playing in the NFL. That's gonna be
tough to do. If you're trying to bring them back
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for maybe their bye week. They could and you'd have
to line up those schedules and hope that they're home
and all that. So that's one possibility, but it would
maybe be difficult to do it for both players at
the same time and everything else. But the thought came
down to that, like, well, what was if Dion's not
there anymore? Do you think anyone's coming back to that.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Might be the now effect?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Well, that might be And someone had kind of made
the comment like, well, when Dion leaves there, they're never
coming back. That's why you do it now because it
holds a place in their legacy. But and I kind
of thought, all right, is their validity to that in
your mind? Does that? Does that make the most sense
for the situation.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yes, Prime holds the most value to this school, most
likely in in the history of this this school already
he might hold the most value in terms of what
he's been, what he's been able to generate. It's it's possible,
It's possible, and you know, it's debatable. I don't know.
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Here's my thing.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Right, most people will say Bill McCartney really build up Colorado,
Like I think people hold him in extremely high regard.
So I just think I think if you know Colorado football,
it's synonymous with Bill McCartney's in the College Football Hall
of Fame. Uh, you know, he would be the person
that I think everyone holds in the highest regard. Don't
get me wrong, Coach Primes was a tremendous job, but
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Bill McCartney's that I'm.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Not even talking about, like in terms of success in
building it from the ground well, actually in theory, he
kind of did build it from the ground up. In
terms of the relevance of the program. I mean, granted,
it's still it was there though. It was a beautiful stadium,
it's a beautiful campus, it was there, the infrastructures there.
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They were in such a bad place and were so
bad and they weren't getting out of it. There was
no sight of it in the near future that they
were going to at some point become a more relevant program.
And I think that there's something to be said about that,
especially where college athletics is going right now. I don't
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know that I don't know that Colorado gets out of
the hole that they were in with anybody they bring in.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Again, just because I've had to call games for them
and understand in the history of them, I think some
people would say Bill McCartney was in a very similar
situation and it was a little longer build too. When
he took it over. You know, they were a maybe
three win football team the year before he got there.
They struggled early on during his time before they eventually,
in like his fourth season, started to build up again
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and they started to be more of a five hundred
winning team, and eventually it led to the eighty nine
ninety where they won the national championship, you know, nineteen
ninety one where they're you know, more heavily ranked, and
then kind of he kind of finished through the rest
of that era, through like the early nineties where he
really built it up.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
You definitely listen, respect due, those were some amazing years
for Colorado. I'm just saying in this now generation, that's
I think that that's not yes, it'll hit with the
fan base. I mean, maybe maybe it will, maybe not.
I don't know. All this is all I know. This
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is all I know. Regardless of anything, his number shouldn't
be retired. I'm just listen and I'm I'm a prime.
Prime is my guy. In fact, Shador Sanders played in
in one of my eighth grade All Star games. I'm
a fan of Shador Sanders. But if i'm if I'm
speaking purely as a purist, you know I put myself
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in that position. Okay, say up, A guy goes to
because it's the both sides of the ball, Like people
wear eleven on the offensive side of the ball, ye,
Matt McGloin, all right, And and people wear it on
the defense side of the ball, and you can wear
it at the same time like they'll there'll be a
receiver wearing eleven, and there'll be a linebacker wearing eleven.
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This season. If a if a quarterback came in and
won the Heisman two times three times at Penn State
and they decided to retire his jersey, I would be tight.
I would be very very it. I would be super
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tight about it. Even though I would understand this man
has done something that's never been done in the history
of college football and the history of Penn State athletics.
I would still be super tight. And that's getting that
many heismans, let alone. If you don't even come close.
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It's not even comparable. And it's apples and oranges, but
it's not even comparable. To take what Shador's career was
as a Colorado buff and in comparison to Dion figures.
And maybe numbers don't matter that much. Maybe stuff like
this doesn't matter as much to some people, but maybe
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it does. And if somebody is, aren't that respect wearing
a number and doing it at the college where you've
done it at and that's not acknowledged, and that's not praise.
I think that brings reproach on everybody that was a
part of it. And to think that people are going
to be supportive that, like your legends of the program,
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to think that people are going to be supportive of that,
and what's happening. I'll tell you what. At Penn State.
There's there's two guards. There's new guard and there's the
old guard, the old guard. It's all about Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe,
Joe Joe. Nothing, nothing moves, can't do anything, can't say anything,
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can't do it right, kind of like the McCartney deal,
and and and and that regard built it from nothing,
turned Beaver Stadium in the beaver Stadium State College is
built up. You can't do you can't do right. What's
your homes by the way, Uh, you can't do right
by anybody who is a pure Joe ish Joe, pure
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Joe supporter. But then you have the new guard that
they love, James Franklin.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
It's awesome.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I place rockster shripped out. Man. Go ahead, let's go
to Let you finish your points every time, every single
time I say something, you jump in and instigate it,
and then y'all do it and yeah, yeah, go ahead,
go to break. I love that past. I couldn't even
finish my point.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I know people got upset about the early starts, which
again big new kickoff. We are a Prehm show. We're
not a part of that. I could live in. The
beat is incredible.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
No, I just he gave He gave a shout out
to beef. What if I didn't do anything.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I'm serious, I'm excited to see the renovation. Bro when
you when I've walked in, When I entered that tunnel,
it felt like something I've never felt like in my life.
I'm saying, when I went inside that tunnel, that's a
tight fit in that by the way. It's not as
big as you think.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Tell me about it. It is. The place is awesome.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Know like this, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
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don't make my life a prison. We come from dress down,
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You know who that is? Is? That the police will
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There you go. It's close, it's close. It's not okay.
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It's two pros and a cup of joe. Don't get tight.
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A couple of two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
I understand, Why why are you going home? Oh that's how,
that's how you're gonna do it. What that's how you're
gonna do it? Listen, that's like a thousand dollars. That
is a thousand dollars. Fine, all right, I don't want
to be fine anymore. That might be the most passive aggressive.
He just we just had easter, says, why can't we
just say LeVar man? Many can't just say Lvar, you
(26:57):
have many pasos? I had to hand out yester. Don't
do that. My dad used to. My granddad used to
give us silver dollars every single every single easter. Was
it easter? Maybe might have been easter? Well, I do
know this.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
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Speaker 3 (27:55):
Come on, man, can you stick city? What up? That's
another thousand, that's another found that's TGS bro and now
and and Brady can help you pay it? Could y'all
both be it? And that's that? Just go on home?
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Hold on a second, all on, were you really that
offended by my excitement for the beef, that stadium, that
beautiful stadium that just absolutely rocks on a Saturday.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
No, I'm not offended at all.
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Speaker 3 (28:44):
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Speaker 5 (28:45):
So what is this, Uh, the NFL finds themselves in
a lawsuit over the halftime show at the Super Bowl.
Is there some little dust up or something like that?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Oh yeah, so things things kind of get interesting right
now with the NFL and their decision to have Kendrick
Lamar for their halftime show. So, as maybe many who
follow the whole Drake Kendrick Lamar battle or I don't
even know what would you call LaVar how, it's a beef.
It's a beef beef. So Drake has basically sued UMG,
(29:22):
which is the Universal Music Group for the it's basically
being called it Not like Us lawsuit and Universal Music
Group UMG. They have the rights to Drake's songs. And
so this lawsuit is about defamation over the Kendrick Lamar hit,
you know, alleging an amendment to his existing civil complaint
(29:43):
that had a revision in the lyrics during Lamar's Super
Bowl halftime show. So basically the point is Drake suing
Kendrick Lamar for defamation because in that song Not Like Us,
Kendrick Lamar calls Drake a pedophile. Well in the Super
Bowl halftime show. It was omitted from the halftime show
(30:04):
because they're basically saying that the NFL knew they would
be liable to be a part of a lawsuit if
someone had cast and called someone or branded them as
a pedophile even though they are not a pedophile. So
what happens in this case is the NFL now is
going to be a part of the discovery process, so
(30:26):
they will have to probably be a witness in this
whole ordeal, which means texts, conversations, emails all come to
light now, which if you follow the NFL over the
past decade, sometimes some other people can get burned. John Gruden,
who unfortunately came up in another separate lawsuit that had
(30:50):
nothing to do with anything in regards to when he
was the head coach at the Raiders, but because he
was having some communication with I believe Bruce Allen, who
was with at that point in time, the Washington maybe
football team. I'm not sure if they were the or
the Commandos back then. Okay, there you go, I'll let
you say it.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
That's what they were. I mean, that's that's you know,
that's what they were. Called that was the name of
the team when when this all happened.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Okay, so during that period of time, John Gruden is
collateral damage in what was a separate lawsuit I believe
in the state of Arizona that kind of came up
and all this came about and became public. So it
will be interesting to see what happens from this.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
It's one of the reasons why I think the NFL
is very particular about who they decide to have come
perform at the halftime show, which not a lot of
people think about the liability to who you have come performed.
But now the NFL finds themselves in the middle of
it and the people who are a part of that
process and some of those conversations behind the scenes and
admitting that language, it's it's going to come to the forefront,
(31:55):
and who knows what else comes from that.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Uh. He said it, I meaned he did it. He
said it during the half time show, and he made
it clear that he knew he was about to do it.
It was it was, you know, kind of positioned that way,
and but he was, you know, Drake was.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Already was it was it when he goes hey and
he looked at the camera that says he like, I'm young.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Yeah, that was it, that was the part right there.
But is he going to say it? That's like they
even start like they was alluding to it, like that
was a part of the performance. But is he going
to say it? Yeah, he said it. He said the
whole part of it. So I just got to believe
that they knew you're bringing in Kendrick Lamar. Kendrick Lamar
(32:48):
has been hands down, not even close the most consumed artists,
maybe out of anyone, maybe he maybe, maybe I maybe
Taylor Swift might be the only one that that's in
the conversation. I don't know. I don't even know that
Taylor Swift is in the in the conversation of how
much Kendrick Lamar has been consumed this past year. And
(33:14):
you bring them into do the Super Bowl halftime show,
and you know that that popularity, popularity in that ride
is based off of what he did in his beef
against Drake. So to me, I feel like this is
you knew what you were getting yourself into when you know,
you and jay Z and all them came to the
table and decided that y'all were going to go with
(33:37):
Kendrick Lamar being the halftime show. You knew that, so
I don't I don't, you know, there shouldn't be any
surprise to it. What they do moving forward might be,
you know, that'll be curious to see because you know,
after the whole you know, this has happened before in
terms of like something happening that they didn't want to happen,
and they're a part of something. I mean when yeah,
(33:57):
when Janet, when her Janet her it came out, they
went real conservative after that, you know, And I just
wonder will they go back to being conservative after this
or or not? Because I mean, for what is worth,
you had you had snoop crip walking not too long
before that. I mean, it's not like they haven't towed
(34:19):
the line up like you got in what place is
it okay to say America's game? Oh yeah, and a
crypt crip crip walking like there has been some some
uh what what's that called? What's the difference is in
some contrast and what things are? And so to me,
I don't think they should be surprised you went down
(34:41):
that road when you chose to make him your halftime show.
So they're gonna have to deal with it, which I
don't know. I mean, if I'm Drake, you might want
to try to get money out of them as well,
because they gave the they gave their platform for him
to do the defamation. Well, however that.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
That's what that's will be interesting to say what comes
up in discovery. But I think that this is the
Jonas take that I want to give out, all right.
I think Jonas would be like, ask for an NFL team,
ask for ownership and an NFL team and make this
all go way? Is that fair, Jonas? Is that what
you would say in this case?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:17):
Or you know he's Canadian, Let's get an NFL team
to Toronto or something like that.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
The bills that's Canadian that you're going to get.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Oh, I knew where you're going.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
And how does that work with the tariffs? Now? You
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Is that going to play out? I mean, you know,
trying we're bringing jobs here, we're not sending them out,
so yeah, we're not going to head over to Canada
right now.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
I just I always was taught that if you're in
a rap battle, uh oh, that you're taking it's like
comedians roasting each other it just comes with the territory
and nobody tattles on.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
The other one. Well, at some point cats got shot
up over to these beefs. Hi, you know what I mean,
like rat Sorry, they get a little bit more interactive
than roasts. You know, roast. You're right, like that's like
kind of like take it. It is what it is
like and they all they both make a ton of money.
(36:14):
So there's you know, but but some would say that
that has really really interrupted and interfered with Drake's ability
to make money. Maybe. I mean, that's what I would
say if I'm Drake, You're making it hard for me
to make money, and you're saying it off of something.
I've never been convicted of any type of molestation crime.
(36:34):
So Kendrick Lamar still wore bell bottoms. I don't know,
but bell bottoms are in those pants did sell out online? Sweet,
so did COVID masks at Oh my goodness. Okay, that's
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
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Speaker 2 (38:05):
After your sports weekend happens. So it's time to get
the fs R IR.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Report All right, spill it. Who's got something? Who's got it?
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Lee?
Speaker 1 (38:18):
I mean it's gotta it's gotta be Lee. I mean
it wasn't tracking down any sounds.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
So now I'm I'm I came out clean this weekend clean,
nothing at all.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
No, it was all all smooth sailing for me.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
You did you didn't get lit up or anything like that?
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Or well that doesn't constitute and I.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Are, well that's only if you don't recover. Well right, yeah, good,
well there you go.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
No falls, nothing, no, no, I wish, I wish I
had something for you, I guess, or I'm happy I don't.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
M that's boring.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
I was trying to come up with something.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
You're typically are star players?
Speaker 3 (39:02):
How much of a segment do we have? You're off
day here?
Speaker 4 (39:07):
I know, I feel I feel bad. Guys, I'm sorry
I let you down. I didn't. I didn't fumble this week?
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Did I used my emergency h surgery? All my mouth
last week was that last week's I are I had
to get emergency surgery? All my mouth?
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Didn't that happen after Monday?
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Did it happen after that? Yeah? Like Thursday or something?
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Thursday you talked about it. It just wasn't part of
the IR segment, all.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Right, Yeah, cracked. I fractured my one of my molars.
Is that how you say it? Molar? Yeah? Yeah, we
did talk about it because I told you I'm getting
the gold, I'm getting another gold, uh a gold crown,
And you said, well, why would I get it somewhere
where you can't see it? And just felt like, you know,
(39:50):
telling you the truth, it's because I can't, and I'm
going to get it. It's been ordered. I'm just waiting
for it to come in. But that was quite a
an ordeal, man, because I was chewing nuts. I was
putting nuts all in my mouth and they were clusters,
you know, almonds, cashews, some flower seeds, and they were
(40:11):
really good, and I was chewing them and and and
then my my tooth just broke, like gave up. It's
the truth, that's the true story.
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Let's give this parties you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I mean, it doesn't matter. I'm not selecting any more songs.
This is my last one. So whatever whatever that is
y'all do, We're gonna be. Whatever it is, y'all. Dude,
Now y'all could change it. I'm out. I'm out on this.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
One.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I'm glad. I'm glad. I finished off on like a DC.
I mean, I could have did a Pittsburgh song to
finish out, but I'm not. I don't let y'all do it.
What y'all get one more chance to pick a song, y'all?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Like, what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
What do I mean? I'm out done?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Is it over?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I want you I want y'all to DJ. All right,
I'm going to let in fact.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Sorry, I st time that up where I could I
could chime. I get back in there when it's over.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I'm officially designating Lorena as my hour song chooser. Oh,
I'm so good at picking music down there? You go good.
Lorena's got it from here? You got it? You want
to do it? You want to do it? Yes?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Are you sure you want to pick?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
What do you want to pick?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Me?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Because I'm just you know, I like listening to my
music when I'm at home. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Don't you want to share it with the masses? Uh?
I share it with the masses. I post it on
my social media. Sometimes I use your social media post
to pick songs for your come back. Okay, I got
pretty good song selections on my social media, right you
King of the Mammals on I g By the way,
just typing.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
LeVar Arrington, lots of content.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I give you a ton of content. I was out
that bad boy with the Stick City joint on yesterday
draft week, by the way, Yeah, I was sitting out
that joint, bucking ass, naked, enjoying myself. I'm talking about
you can enjoy your home. Don't don't be in it.
(02:35):
Don't call it at home just because it's a house.
Don't make it a home.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
There you go, Hell yeah, I got you man. Good.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas
Knox with you. So we've got a situation in Boulder
that apparently is.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Now grown like a boulder on somebody shoulder, like that
type of deal.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Well, I guess kind of, I guess that could be
the that could be the case. So there was the
decision to retire the jersey numbers of Shador Sanders and
Travis Hunter over the weekend at the Colorado Spring Game,
and so the conversation was very heated for some people.
(03:22):
They thought, you know, listen, Dion Figures should have his
number two retire.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
If he didn't get his.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Retired, these guys just left, They'd only been there a
short time.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Why would they get there? And so Brady's boy Joel
Klatt came out was like, yeah, why didn't Clack get
his number retire?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Cute mean when he would have left, it would have
made sense then based on what well, the justifications for Shador, well,
it's not damn. I mean, he set a bunch of records,
passing records during his time at Colorado. There you go,
and he had them competing in I believe back was
a Big eight. But he's competing for the Big eight,
(04:03):
so you could have made the case. Look, this has
become very polarizing because it is coach Prime. It's it's
the Sanders family and then they tend to be able
to do that make waves. But there is some legitimate
questions that people have as to why now do we
have the sound on that.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Looking for it? There was no sound.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
We've been looking for it.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
We have look well not we, I mean he I
was just told that we were looking for it and
that we didn't find it.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
So the quote from Dion Sanders was the time frame.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Nobody's going to be happy with.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Can I find this to send it to Lee just
because it's going to take about thirty seconds of my time.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
He said he could not find it, and I quote
I looked everywhere, and I quote I looked everywhere for it.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I've already I've already found it. The promise he's gonna
have to search through when he says it, So there
might be a little turnaround time. But here you go, Lee,
let me copy and paste this to you.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Jesus, how was your white hood?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
It's not in there?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
But what?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Oh no, Lee, what are you talking about? It's a
nineteen minute post, you know spring game clip when he
said it? Yeah, okay, what's in there? You'd have to
find it. It might take a little work on your part.
How those numbers come along? Lyre almost there?
Speaker 6 (05:41):
They're almost there, dead buddy, Oh no, So I know, one, Jersey,
we won't be retiring after we get done.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
One to.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Come on?
Speaker 5 (05:57):
You know you wouldn't retire Lee's talk of Bahama man.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Back to the back to the original point though, and
did you actually read the whole quote?
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Read the whole quote from de Anders was the time
frame nobody's going to be happy with.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Somebody is always going to have something to say. But
the way.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
We're at right now, we are in the now generation.
Those guys deserve what they deserve right now. So I'm
proud of them. So okay.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
So so after saying that, my question is we're in
a now generation. If that's the case, who's he appeasing?
Like what he is he appeasing Travis and Shador and
maybe no one has a gripe with Travis. I mean
he made the comment and then they talked, you know,
post post spring game about well, what do we have
(06:49):
to do in regards to you know, when this happens
because Rashaan Salaam, they they waited and he had passed away.
I think it was a year after he had passed,
and Coach Prian brought up the fact of what we
have to do wait till after they pass away? Is
that like in order to honor them? And so there's
a lot of truth in what he's saying. And again
I think the problem is is and maybe he's missing
(07:11):
some of this is is no one has an issue
with Travis Hunter having his jersey retired. It's more about
Shador and whether or not it's justified. Now that's on
Colorado and you know, the AD and other people who
are a part of all this. What he But the
question still exists, who is he appeasing? Is it the fans?
(07:32):
Was there an outcry from the fans for this? Was
there an outcry within the athletics department at Colorado? Is
he trying to appease? What he feels like is in
his mind like their program and doing this was going
to bring more fans to the spring game as kind
of part of this. So let's you know, showcase the
(07:52):
success they had the past two years or were helping
to improve the program in the last two years. I mean,
unfortunately the fans didn't show out. I think his first
year it was, you know, a huge crowd, forty seven
thousand something along those lines. You know, last year it
was a little different because of the weather, so there's
only about twenty eight thousand, but a pretty dramatic drop
(08:13):
from what it was. And then this year was about
twenty thousand reported it looked half that. You know, it
didn't look like there was a ton of fans there
for the spring game. So I'm just not sure who
that generation of now he's referring to outside of Travison
Shador And then that leads me to say, so, if
you're trying to make sure they feel the appreciation they
(08:35):
deserve for what they've accomplished, what you could have done
then and especially as the head coach and probably should
have done, has gotten other guy's turch just retired, who
are deserving of that? And honestly, had he gotten Dion
Figures up there as well, Like literally just came out
and said, look, I think there's two players in Colorado
football history who deserve to have their number retired. But
(08:58):
they're both happened that we were wearingumber two and this
could have been done a long time ago. But if
they would have put both Dion Figures and Shadoor Sanders
up there, I don't think any would have a gripe
with it. In fact, he would have come out better
for it, looking better for it, and people being like, Okay,
like that's pretty awesome, Like he feels like shad Door
it a lot, but also Deon Figures, who wasn't recognized
(09:19):
for this and maybe should have been given the national
championship given the consensus, Aul American, Jim Thorpe, all those
things that now he's he's doing right by it. And
so if he had just included more players as opposed
to just Travis Hunter, just Shador Sanders, I don't think
this would even be a conversation. I think people would
(09:39):
be looking at him saying, dang, dude, look at that,
like coach Promp sent it up. Even for former players,
generations everything else, getting their numbers retired too, because it's
been too long of a wait for them. But that's
the thing is, it wasn't everyone else. It was just
these two, and it was right now, and so it
feels like he's really just appeasing those two, like that's
(10:00):
his own progative. He's the head coach, He's allowed to
do whatever he wants, he's a new contract and all that.
It just it feels like people are starting to get
a little bit worn down with some of this. And
I think the spring game attendance is part of that.
And we'll see how this season goes and what happens
with all of it, depending on how they how they do,
what kind of conversation we're having a year from now.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Respect first and foremost, Like I respect what what Prime
is doing and in terms of the the energy and
the level of relevance that he's brought to the program.
But let's be clear, Shador isn't even All American. He
(10:43):
will not be.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
That's not true. What what he was he was first
and second team All American on some.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
On some what what what are the some? I'm I
don't I'm just telling you right now. But let's look
it up. Look it up. Look that one up for me.
I'm don't believe that he was was acknowledged as as.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
One hundred percent as the first or second team and
in most cases.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
But you see, I see all swack, I see Big twelve,
I see I see a lot. But maybe I'm wrong,
Maybe maybe I'm not. I don't. I don't think I'm wrong.
But all I'm saying is is he's definitely not as decoration.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Second team by the Associated Press, okay, second team college
Football Nework. I believe Box Toros some others had him
at his first team. Never heard of them. That's all
I'll say, is all I've said. Well, that's the promise.
There's a lot that no one's ever heard of now
that are coming up.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And I don't know the I mean, if it's AP,
I respect it. If it's coaches poll, I respect it.
If it's not one of those, like I don't really
all these other I don't really. You could say aflons,
you could say Street and Smith like I did like
Street and Smith. I ain't gonna lie, but I just listen.
My point is is that he probably won't be a
(11:55):
Hall of Famer at the college level. Like I don't
even know that he won. Did they and win a
bowl game? Did they win a bowl game? No? I
just don't. I just you know, for me, I just
think that it's unfortunate that instead of keeping it in
a place and this is this is my ultimate point,
instead of keeping it in a place where you can
(12:16):
look at him as an iconic figure just like Travis
Hunter and what they were able to accomplish at Colorado,
what they were able to accomplish in an HBCU, and
making Jackson State as relevant as they did, because Jackson
State benefited tremendously from the two of those guys as well,
(12:38):
along with with coach Prime. I just I find it
to be sad that in doing this, it will totally
undermine how people feel about Shador Sanders and his career
because now you are forced to dissect his career. You
are if you're paying attention, and then you're forced to
(13:01):
dissect the career because now you want to know why
is it worth it, why is it worthy to retire
his jersey? Like you know, saying that it's a now generation,
it's not a good enough that's not a good enough explanation,
you know, saying that if he wasn't a Sanders, it
wouldn't be a conversation. That's you're correct, because if you
(13:23):
weren't a Sanders, his jersey wouldn't be getting retired. I mean,
let's be clear here. So I think that there are
a lot of circumstances here that I don't know that
shaudor I would say, I do know. Shador Sanders should
not be judged and Shador Sanders should not be ridiculed
(13:46):
and and drug over the coals for this taking place.
I don't think it's on him. He's the player in
this situation. There are a lot of other elements, a
lot of other people that make decisions that made this happen.
I do not look at this as Shador Sanders went
to his dad or went to officials the a D
(14:08):
at the university and was like, I need to have
my jersey retired. This is definitely something that scheme wise,
like you mentioned, maybe it's which this is way too
long term to leverage to try to get people to
come out to a spring game.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Like and I know the points you guys are making
is you know, like why now and and all that,
But isn't this also.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Partly I'm not saying why now, because I don't think
there should be a wow ever, like it shouldn't ever happen.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
But isn't like the people that are pushing back on
like Deon Figures who had a great career, great career,
and I think he just got into the College Football
Hall of Fame recent Yeah, especially so like isn't this
also partly on the school as well too, Like why
didn't they step in and retire his number earlier? Why
didn't they go in and and take care of it?
And I wonder if this is maybe Dion almost calling
(15:00):
the school out in the university out, like hey, we
need to celebrate these players that we have now, and
he's using these guys to launch that you got to
keep momentum.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
The problem is because the retired Shorter Stators number, now
someone's gonna come up and say, man, when are we
going to retire don He just went to the College
Football Hall of Fame. You know. It's like, I mean,
given the recency of all this, but I understand what
you're saying that It's one of the reasons why I
brought that point up. It is like he could have
(15:33):
been the good guy at all of this and now
it's like he's kind of taken more backlash from it
because because I don't think people are you know, dragging Shador,
you know, over the coals or the fire because of it.
I mean again, he had a great year, he kept
that team competitive, He they helped build up that program.
No one's going to deny that or take that away
from them. And ultimately the school was a part of
(15:54):
the decision making process. It wasn't solely just you know,
coach Prime. So I don't I don't have an issue
one way or another. I just think when you do
something like this that it's probably going to be taken
as polarizing because it's never really happened this quick before.
It usually doesn't happen this quick in most places. You
got to be a little more thoughtful about your approach
(16:14):
to it. And I think this could have been a
great opportunity because most spring games are a great opportunity
to bridge the past with the current and the future. Right.
Spring games are great opportunities for recruits. Spring games are
great opportunities to bring back former players and then bridge
that all together. And it would have showcase your program
(16:37):
with all of it, and you can bring all of
it together, and so it could have been a really
big moment that I think was a missed opportunity for
Colorado to retire some other players like Dion Figures that
should have been in that conversation. And if you add
Shador's name up there next to Dion Figures, it would
be kind of unique because it would always have Coach
(16:58):
Prime stamp of it and saying, wait, wait, how do
they retire two players with the same number, like usually
it just be one player and then that never got
worn after that, and you could have the whole explanation like, yeah,
when Coach Prime got here, we actually hadn't retired a
player's number in a while. We thought it would make
some sense to retire a bunch of guys that had
been waiting way too long. One of the other things
(17:21):
that I saw and I wouldn't ask you, guys, because
I was reading this thinking, that's not necessarily the worst thing,
and I'd kind of mentioned this, it's one of the
reasons why you do it now, because you know people
would say, well, why don't you do it a year
from now or two years from now? Have these guys
come back for a Colorado game? And I was thinking well,
they're both me playing in the NFL. That's gonna be
tough to do. If you're trying to bring them back
(17:41):
for maybe their bye week. They could and you'd have
to line up those schedules and hope that they're home
and all that. So that's one possibility, but it would
maybe be difficult to do it for both players at
the same time and everything else. But the thought came
down to that, like, well, what was if Dion's not
there anymore? Do you think anyone's coming back to that.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Might be the now effect?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Well, that might be And someone had kind of made
the comment like, well, when Dion leaves there, they're never
coming back. That's why you do it now because it
holds a place in their legacy. But and I kind
of thought, all right, is their validity to that in
your mind? Does that? Does that make the most sense
for the situation.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yes, Prime holds the most value to this school, most
likely in in the history of this this school already
he might hold the most value in terms of what
he's been, what he's been able to generate. It's it's possible,
It's possible, and you know, it's debatable. I don't know.
(18:43):
Here's my thing.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Right, most people will say Bill McCartney really build up Colorado,
Like I think people hold him in extremely high regard.
So I just think I think if you know Colorado football,
it's synonymous with Bill McCartney's in the College Football Hall
of Fame. Uh, you know, he would be the person
that I think everyone holds in the highest regard. Don't
get me wrong, Coach Primes was a tremendous job, but
(19:07):
Bill McCartney's that I'm.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Not even talking about, like in terms of success in
building it from the ground well, actually in theory, he
kind of did build it from the ground up. In
terms of the relevance of the program. I mean, granted,
it's still it was there though. It was a beautiful stadium,
it's a beautiful campus, it was there, the infrastructures there.
(19:29):
They were in such a bad place and were so
bad and they weren't getting out of it. There was
no sight of it in the near future that they
were going to at some point become a more relevant program.
And I think that there's something to be said about that,
especially where college athletics is going right now. I don't
(19:50):
know that I don't know that Colorado gets out of
the hole that they were in with anybody they bring in.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Again, just because I've had to call games for them
and understand in the history of them, I think some
people would say Bill McCartney was in a very similar
situation and it was a little longer build too. When
he took it over. You know, they were a maybe
three win football team the year before he got there.
They struggled early on during his time before they eventually,
in like his fourth season, started to build up again
(20:18):
and they started to be more of a five hundred
winning team, and eventually it led to the eighty nine
ninety where they won the national championship, you know, nineteen
ninety one where they're you know, more heavily ranked, and
then kind of he kind of finished through the rest
of that era, through like the early nineties where he
really built it up.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
You definitely listen, respect due, those were some amazing years
for Colorado. I'm just saying in this now generation, that's
I think that that's not yes, it'll hit with the
fan base. I mean, maybe maybe it will, maybe not.
I don't know. All this is all I know. This
(20:54):
is all I know. Regardless of anything, his number shouldn't
be retired. I'm just listen and I'm I'm a prime.
Prime is my guy. In fact, Shador Sanders played in
in one of my eighth grade All Star games. I'm
a fan of Shador Sanders. But if i'm if I'm
speaking purely as a purist, you know I put myself
(21:19):
in that position. Okay, say up, A guy goes to
because it's the both sides of the ball, Like people
wear eleven on the offensive side of the ball, ye,
Matt McGloin, all right, And and people wear it on
the defense side of the ball, and you can wear
it at the same time like they'll there'll be a
receiver wearing eleven, and there'll be a linebacker wearing eleven.
(21:39):
This season. If a if a quarterback came in and
won the Heisman two times three times at Penn State
and they decided to retire his jersey, I would be tight.
I would be very very it. I would be super
(22:02):
tight about it. Even though I would understand this man
has done something that's never been done in the history
of college football and the history of Penn State athletics.
I would still be super tight. And that's getting that
many heismans, let alone. If you don't even come close.
(22:22):
It's not even comparable. And it's apples and oranges, but
it's not even comparable. To take what Shador's career was
as a Colorado buff and in comparison to Dion figures.
And maybe numbers don't matter that much. Maybe stuff like
this doesn't matter as much to some people, but maybe
(22:43):
it does. And if somebody is, aren't that respect wearing
a number and doing it at the college where you've
done it at and that's not acknowledged, and that's not praise.
I think that brings reproach on everybody that was a
part of it. And to think that people are going
to be supportive that, like your legends of the program,
(23:04):
to think that people are going to be supportive of that,
and what's happening. I'll tell you what. At Penn State.
There's there's two guards. There's new guard and there's the
old guard, the old guard. It's all about Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe,
Joe Joe. Nothing, nothing moves, can't do anything, can't say anything,
(23:25):
can't do it right, kind of like the McCartney deal,
and and and and that regard built it from nothing,
turned Beaver Stadium in the beaver Stadium State College is
built up. You can't do you can't do right. What's
your homes by the way, Uh, you can't do right
by anybody who is a pure Joe ish Joe, pure
(23:47):
Joe supporter. But then you have the new guard that
they love, James Franklin.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
It's awesome.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I place rockster shripped out. Man. Go ahead, let's go
to Let you finish your points every time, every single
time I say something, you jump in and instigate it,
and then y'all do it and yeah, yeah, go ahead,
go to break. I love that past. I couldn't even
finish my point.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I know people got upset about the early starts, which
again big new kickoff. We are a Prehm show. We're
not a part of that. I could live in. The
beat is incredible.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
No, I just he gave He gave a shout out
to beef. What if I didn't do anything.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I'm serious, I'm excited to see the renovation. Bro when
you when I've walked in, When I entered that tunnel,
it felt like something I've never felt like in my life.
I'm saying, when I went inside that tunnel, that's a
tight fit in that by the way. It's not as
big as you think.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Tell me about it. It is. The place is awesome.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Know like this, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
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Up a River to watch my dress upon the Rock,
arrest mynd Come on, face it off, finish it of oppression. Oppression, Oh,
(25:53):
don't make my life a prison. We come from dress down,
drench Town. You know who sings this? Who that is?
You know who that is? Is? That the police will
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There you go. It's close, it's close. It's not okay.
(26:20):
It's two pros and a cup of joe. Don't get tight.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
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Here on Fox Sports Radio, the Great LeVar Arrington.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
A couple of two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
I understand, Why why are you going home? Oh that's how,
that's how you're gonna do it. What that's how you're
gonna do it? Listen, that's like a thousand dollars. That
is a thousand dollars. Fine, all right, I don't want
to be fine anymore. That might be the most passive aggressive.
He just we just had easter, says, why can't we
just say LeVar man? Many can't just say Lvar, you
(26:57):
have many pasos? I had to hand out yester. Don't
do that. My dad used to. My granddad used to
give us silver dollars every single every single easter. Was
it easter? Maybe might have been easter? Well, I do
know this.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
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Speaker 3 (27:55):
Come on, man, can you stick city? What up? That's
another thousand, that's another found that's TGS bro and now
and and Brady can help you pay it? Could y'all
both be it? And that's that? Just go on home?
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Hold on a second, all on, were you really that
offended by my excitement for the beef, that stadium, that
beautiful stadium that just absolutely rocks on a Saturday.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
No, I'm not offended at all.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Okay, I mean you got he That'll end the last segment.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
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Speaker 3 (28:44):
By ship Station.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
So what is this, Uh, the NFL finds themselves in
a lawsuit over the halftime show at the Super Bowl.
Is there some little dust up or something like that?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Oh yeah, so things things kind of get interesting right
now with the NFL and their decision to have Kendrick
Lamar for their halftime show. So, as maybe many who
follow the whole Drake Kendrick Lamar battle or I don't
even know what would you call LaVar how, it's a beef.
It's a beef beef. So Drake has basically sued UMG,
(29:22):
which is the Universal Music Group for the it's basically
being called it Not like Us lawsuit and Universal Music
Group UMG. They have the rights to Drake's songs. And
so this lawsuit is about defamation over the Kendrick Lamar hit,
you know, alleging an amendment to his existing civil complaint
(29:43):
that had a revision in the lyrics during Lamar's Super
Bowl halftime show. So basically the point is Drake suing
Kendrick Lamar for defamation because in that song Not Like Us,
Kendrick Lamar calls Drake a pedophile. Well in the Super
Bowl halftime show. It was omitted from the halftime show
(30:04):
because they're basically saying that the NFL knew they would
be liable to be a part of a lawsuit if
someone had cast and called someone or branded them as
a pedophile even though they are not a pedophile. So
what happens in this case is the NFL now is
going to be a part of the discovery process, so
(30:26):
they will have to probably be a witness in this
whole ordeal, which means texts, conversations, emails all come to
light now, which if you follow the NFL over the
past decade, sometimes some other people can get burned. John Gruden,
who unfortunately came up in another separate lawsuit that had
(30:50):
nothing to do with anything in regards to when he
was the head coach at the Raiders, but because he
was having some communication with I believe Bruce Allen, who
was with at that point in time, the Washington maybe
football team. I'm not sure if they were the or
the Commandos back then. Okay, there you go, I'll let
you say it.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
That's what they were. I mean, that's that's you know,
that's what they were. Called that was the name of
the team when when this all happened.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Okay, so during that period of time, John Gruden is
collateral damage in what was a separate lawsuit I believe
in the state of Arizona that kind of came up
and all this came about and became public. So it
will be interesting to see what happens from this.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
It's one of the reasons why I think the NFL
is very particular about who they decide to have come
perform at the halftime show, which not a lot of
people think about the liability to who you have come performed.
But now the NFL finds themselves in the middle of
it and the people who are a part of that
process and some of those conversations behind the scenes and
admitting that language, it's it's going to come to the forefront,
(31:55):
and who knows what else comes from that.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Uh. He said it, I meaned he did it. He
said it during the half time show, and he made
it clear that he knew he was about to do it.
It was it was, you know, kind of positioned that way,
and but he was, you know, Drake was.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Already was it was it when he goes hey and
he looked at the camera that says he like, I'm young.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Yeah, that was it, that was the part right there.
But is he going to say it? That's like they
even start like they was alluding to it, like that
was a part of the performance. But is he going
to say it? Yeah, he said it. He said the
whole part of it. So I just got to believe
that they knew you're bringing in Kendrick Lamar. Kendrick Lamar
(32:48):
has been hands down, not even close the most consumed artists,
maybe out of anyone, maybe he maybe, maybe I maybe
Taylor Swift might be the only one that that's in
the conversation. I don't know. I don't even know that
Taylor Swift is in the in the conversation of how
much Kendrick Lamar has been consumed this past year. And
(33:14):
you bring them into do the Super Bowl halftime show,
and you know that that popularity, popularity in that ride
is based off of what he did in his beef
against Drake. So to me, I feel like this is
you knew what you were getting yourself into when you know,
you and jay Z and all them came to the
table and decided that y'all were going to go with
(33:37):
Kendrick Lamar being the halftime show. You knew that, so
I don't I don't, you know, there shouldn't be any
surprise to it. What they do moving forward might be,
you know, that'll be curious to see because you know,
after the whole you know, this has happened before in
terms of like something happening that they didn't want to happen,
and they're a part of something. I mean when yeah,
(33:57):
when Janet, when her Janet her it came out, they
went real conservative after that, you know, And I just
wonder will they go back to being conservative after this
or or not? Because I mean, for what is worth,
you had you had snoop crip walking not too long
before that. I mean, it's not like they haven't towed
(34:19):
the line up like you got in what place is
it okay to say America's game? Oh yeah, and a
crypt crip crip walking like there has been some some
uh what what's that called? What's the difference is in
some contrast and what things are? And so to me,
I don't think they should be surprised you went down
(34:41):
that road when you chose to make him your halftime show.
So they're gonna have to deal with it, which I
don't know. I mean, if I'm Drake, you might want
to try to get money out of them as well,
because they gave the they gave their platform for him
to do the defamation. Well, however that.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
That's what that's will be interesting to say what comes
up in discovery. But I think that this is the
Jonas take that I want to give out, all right.
I think Jonas would be like, ask for an NFL team,
ask for ownership and an NFL team and make this
all go way? Is that fair, Jonas? Is that what
you would say in this case?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:17):
Or you know he's Canadian, Let's get an NFL team
to Toronto or something like that.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
The bills that's Canadian that you're going to get.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Oh, I knew where you're going.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
And how does that work with the tariffs? Now? You
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Is that going to play out? I mean, you know,
trying we're bringing jobs here, we're not sending them out,
so yeah, we're not going to head over to Canada
right now.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
I just I always was taught that if you're in
a rap battle, uh oh, that you're taking it's like
comedians roasting each other it just comes with the territory
and nobody tattles on.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
The other one. Well, at some point cats got shot
up over to these beefs. Hi, you know what I mean,
like rat Sorry, they get a little bit more interactive
than roasts. You know, roast. You're right, like that's like
kind of like take it. It is what it is
like and they all they both make a ton of money.
(36:14):
So there's you know, but but some would say that
that has really really interrupted and interfered with Drake's ability
to make money. Maybe. I mean, that's what I would
say if I'm Drake, You're making it hard for me
to make money, and you're saying it off of something.
I've never been convicted of any type of molestation crime.
(36:34):
So Kendrick Lamar still wore bell bottoms. I don't know,
but bell bottoms are in those pants did sell out online? Sweet,
so did COVID masks at Oh my goodness. Okay, that's
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
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Speaker 2 (38:05):
After your sports weekend happens. So it's time to get
the fs R IR.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Report All right, spill it. Who's got something? Who's got it?
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Lee?
Speaker 1 (38:18):
I mean it's gotta it's gotta be Lee. I mean
it wasn't tracking down any sounds.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
So now I'm I'm I came out clean this weekend clean,
nothing at all.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
No, it was all all smooth sailing for me.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
You did you didn't get lit up or anything like that?
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Or well that doesn't constitute and I.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Are, well that's only if you don't recover. Well right, yeah, good,
well there you go.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
No falls, nothing, no, no, I wish, I wish I
had something for you, I guess, or I'm happy I don't.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
M that's boring.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
I was trying to come up with something.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
You're typically are star players?
Speaker 3 (39:02):
How much of a segment do we have? You're off
day here?
Speaker 4 (39:07):
I know, I feel I feel bad. Guys, I'm sorry
I let you down. I didn't. I didn't fumble this week?
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Did I used my emergency h surgery? All my mouth
last week was that last week's I are I had
to get emergency surgery? All my mouth?
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Didn't that happen after Monday?
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Did it happen after that? Yeah? Like Thursday or something?
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Thursday you talked about it. It just wasn't part of
the IR segment, all.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Right, Yeah, cracked. I fractured my one of my molars.
Is that how you say it? Molar? Yeah? Yeah, we
did talk about it because I told you I'm getting
the gold, I'm getting another gold, uh a gold crown,
And you said, well, why would I get it somewhere
where you can't see it? And just felt like, you know,
(39:50):
telling you the truth, it's because I can't, and I'm
going to get it. It's been ordered. I'm just waiting
for it to come in. But that was quite a
an ordeal, man, because I was chewing nuts. I was
putting nuts all in my mouth and they were clusters,
you know, almonds, cashews, some flower seeds, and they were
(40:11):
really good, and I was chewing them and and and
then my my tooth just broke, like gave up. It's
the truth, that's the true story.
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Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.