February 21, 2025 • 40 mins
Brady Quinn, LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knox are saddened by the death of spring games in college football. The pros relate to Zack Martin calling it a career. And producer Lee gets grilled on his living situation.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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So that'll wrap up our coverage of Major League Baseball
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here on this Friday. We do transition over to this
which should be a sad tale, especially for you guys.
There was a decision that was made and that decision
is that, according to the Sports Business Journal, USC and
Texas have canceled their spring game this year. Ohio State
and Nebraska have done the same, and so it feels
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like this is another aspect of NIL, the growth of
the sport, the change in the sport. But apparently spring
games are on borrow time and they're going to be
moving away from that great tradition. So there's that do
it that one?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Do you want that one? First?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
It's disappointing in part because here's what's getting lost on
everything is we're now making decisions on a sport at
it's not an amateur level anymore, but it's at a
lower level where there's still a ton of development that
goes on. I mean, you've got a son that's now
enrolled at Penn State. Imagine what he's going to look like,
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be like, play like in three or four years.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
And what bothers me about this is we're making decisions
to take away spring.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Games for two reasons, all right.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
And we're talking about like top school, blue blood schools,
you know, USC, Texas, I think Ohio State. They're all
opting instead of having a spring game basically having what
the NFL has and having like OTAs. And it's for
two reasons. The first is injury related. There's concern about injuries,
which I mean, maybe I'm missing something. Has that not
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always been the concern? Yeah, that's literally always been a
reason for concern for every coach in every college football
program in the history of college football.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
So that's the first thing.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
The second though, that's most important and probably trumps all
of it, is it's the money aspect that's involved with
you know, whether a guy's playing and starting, if he's
not using the transfer portal to get somewhere else. You know,
when I mentioned injuries, there's an element of guys not
wanting to do it because they're slated to go in
the first round after the next fall. You know, why
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do they have to be a part of it, which
I'm in all honestly, they can just sit out and
let some younger guys play. But it's the money aspect
of things, because you've got players who are looking at
that spring game and being told by their agents, being
told by their caretakers, whoever it is that they're you know,
this is where you're on the depth chart. If you
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want to leave, you and go play somewhere else, get
paid more. And so now they're looking at these spring
games as an indication of that so coaches are fearful
about putting out depth charts having guys go out there
and play in these spring games because they don't want
to lose players potentially to not playing.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
As much in the spring game or or you know,
having a poor performance.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
And now all of a sudden, they're not gonna be
a guy that's gonna be viewed as a starter going
into camp. So they've got this window to transfer. I'm
gonna go. I'm gonna go jet and go try to
find more money elsewhere at a place where I can
start and play. So, like I understand in saying all
this too, people are gonna say, well, yeah, shouldn't that
player have the opportunity to do that if they want? Sure,
if that's if that's how you know see this, like
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if you don't believe in development, if you don't believe
in trying to develop, and maybe there's a point in
time where you're not ready, and maybe that's what this is.
Like there's a bigger story here about life where at
times you can get exposed to say like maybe I'm
not ready yet, maybe I need more time, Maybe I
need more development instead of just going somewhere else because
I'm not getting an opportunity here at one of these
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bigger schools. But that's in essence what you're seeing, and
it stinks. It quite honestly stinks. It's a great event.
The spring game is a great event for a lot
of folks around the university, not just football, but like
everyone else, other sports teams, other students, other people around
you know, the alumni that come in for it. And
so it's disappointing now that's not going to exist the
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way it once did.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I'll say I watched the evolution of the spring game
from when I played to now, and it is certainly
taking on a different a different feel this maybe six
years ago. It's like the attendance isn't the same, Like
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there have been times where they reported some really really
great crowds. And I'll just say, in particular specific I've
been to several, you know, different schools where I've gone
to their spring games in recent years and the game
wasn't you know, it wasn't a game anymore. But I
would say, more specifically, because I go to Penn State
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pretty much every year, I watched the evolution of it
and it has slowly turned into a glorified practice in
front of the public, the fans are able to come
out and watch the team practice because it was not
They call it the spring game, but it did not
come across as a game at all. The punts, the kickoffs,
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it was controlled, and it was ran just like it
was a period in practice. The way the way the
game air quotes was ran. It was ran like a
practice you blew the whistle did at a certain point.
Running backs weren't being taken to the ground, let alone
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in a pass rusher getting close to the quarterback in
passing downs. So to me, it was the spring game
has ultimately turned into what would be perceived as a
spring practice, a public practice that is held in the
main stadium and people are able to come watch and attend,
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and it's a it's considered to be a preseason or
precursor to what the team may look like going into
the next season, is how I would look at it.
So I don't know that it's based off of the
current NIL or transfer portal as to why the game
has evolved, but I do think that there are reasons
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why coaches have evolved what the game has represented, because
when I played, it was really a game you had
blue versus white, and you came out and it was
literally a real game. It was a game who's going
to win the game? It was tackling. Now, we weren't
able to tackle the quarterback. That was something we weren't
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able to do even when I was in school. But
everything else was live. Everything else was live. That's just
not how it is anymore. And it's interesting because I
don't see the amount of people coming out to watch
it like they did, like it was literally like a
game when I played. It's more like people are coming out.
It's kind of festive. It's not as much festive things
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as there would be if it was a regular game
Saturday during the season, but it's still a little festive.
People are able to come out, the weather's changed and
they do some tailgating, they have some fun, they go
and watch the game, but it's pretty light. It's very
light anymore. So I don't know. It's an evolution of
what where the sport is. I'm certain now now that
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we're looking at it, with the nil and the transfer
portal being more prevalent and being you know, a part
of college sports, it definitely is playing a part in
it now. But I think that the game has has
continued to evolve from the nineties to where we are now,
you know, and you know the twenty twenties of what's
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going on in you know, college football.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
That was one of those aspects of college football that
I didn't understand until I got to a place that
really loved college football, because growing up in southern California,
it's not like, hey, man, USC UCLA spring games right
around the corner, you guys going it. Just it didn't
have that that gravity. There wasn't you know, there's not
that appeal, that interest in it. But then you get
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out to SEC country, ACC country, and it's like, wait,
you eighty thousand people show up to your spring games.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Really that might be.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
But there are places where they were doing eighty to
one hundred thousand people.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
That might be a little embellished.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
You don't think did last year? I called again, I
was there for it might be one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
That might be a little embellished, That's all I say.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Definitely wasn't that might be.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I could dig it might be a little embellished. I
know you feel inferior to them at this point. I
don't feel inferior. I can admit that I don't feel
inferior at all. This could be a low embellished.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Okay, but we'll call it seventy five thousand, all right,
we'll round down. But the point is it's a practice
game in which sixty to seventy to eighty et cetera,
et cetera, one thousand people show up to watch their team.
And yeah, there may not be a benefit from a
financial standpoint to the players, or I know, like Mike
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Florio took the approach of well, they can't make money
off it. But I would imagine for that town, like
the businesses around that town, of course, that's a huge
money maker. And now the opportunity's gone because things are
changing the way they are.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Just April thirteenth, twenty twenty four, Ohio State has eighty
thy twelve people who attend the spring game there at
Ohio ctatey other notable big I guess spring game attendances.
You had Alabama at seventy two thousand, three hundred and
fifty eight, reportedly, Nebraska at sixty thousand and four to
fifty two, Michigan Notre Dame, and it.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Goes down from here.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Oklahoma had forty five thousand and eight sixty one Clemson
with forty seven thousand fans.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Notre Dame had about thirty seven hundred and twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
So yeah, could being ballast.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
I'm not only going to send you the article with this,
I'm actually going to send you the fact they have
video evidence to go along with it.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I don't know that video evidence would give a you
are you going to sit there and count I'm not.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
It feels like this is a weird hill to die on.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I don't need to die on it. I'm not dying
on it, and I'm not going to argue with still
about it. I'm just saying I could stand on it,
standing on that hill.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
You standing on that.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I just that it could be. I mean, I could
be wrong. Hey, forget about.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
If your movie maybe balancing on like a pogo.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Stay, let's just move on, hey, forget about it. Forget
about it. Not to say it what I said, I'm
not going to die on that hill. But I said
what i'd say, Lee.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
This is gonna be a weird request. But can you
look this up? I believe that there was one year
in which Georgia had a spring game and Ludacris showed
up and handed out condoms. That was Kentucky and that
was midnight Man, I think that was I think that
was a Georgia game.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Georgia Spring game?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Was it?
Speaker 4 (11:32):
And if it was right and it was basketball, wouldn't
you think it would be Drake if anyone good call,
doesn't he kind of follow like the bandwagon programs?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yes, Kobe Roster, Kentucky.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
I believe this was in twenty sixteen. Yes, it was
Georgia to the delight of ninety three thousand in attendance
at Sanford Stadium.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
To the delight of ninety three thousand.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
And he brought uh brought condoms?
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Yes he did.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
How about ninety three thousand condoms?
Speaker 6 (11:57):
I don't think he brought ninety three thousand condoms? But
that was the attendance.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Who paid for all those? Usaid?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Well done hard, right hand by Quinn.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Maybe maybe it seems topical these days, you know.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
So Georgia actually apologized for giving Ludacris the condoms to
get to hand out, so they gave them to sixty
five grand as well as well as two bottles of
his own cognac.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Wait say that again.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Georgia apologizes for giving Luda sixty five k for the
for the event, condoms and two bottles of his own cognac.
But I think he was handed out the condoms.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
They gave him two bottles of his own cognac, a.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Couple of balloon animals for the road other all that. Wow, okay,
all right, better safe than sorry, you.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Very interesting According to the contract, Yeah, they a box
of condoms was included in the in the contract, Lee,
what would you.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Be looking for if you're a college student?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Those two bottles?
Speaker 6 (13:08):
Yeah, that sounds about right.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
What do you do one of these now? And shot
glasses instead of a condom? He'd use one out of
the two.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
By the way, I am showing that Penn State will
close its spring practice April twenty six with the annual
Blue White Game. Yeah, Blue, So are you gonna be
over there for spring game?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I mean how many thousands of people would you say?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
The over under? I don't know. Yeah, for the attendance there,
thirty twenty twenty five. But we'll we'll report forty you know,
it's messed up. Man will report whatever whatever number you
know you could get too off of. I'll say this
maybe at any one point in time, like everybody as
a whole who comes in and goes out. I could
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see if the numbers got there that way. I could
see if the numbers got that way, you're counting everybody
who walks in, which I don't know how you keep
track of at. I don't know how you keep track
of at.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
I mean there's security measures where like you can have
a counter this as part of whatever people are walking through.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Right, No, there's not. Some stadiums don't have counters.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
They don't have counters, so when they when they scan
your ticket, you don't think that counts as well.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
But I don't think they scan tickets at the Blue
White Game.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Oh I think they do. You have to nowadays for
security measures.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I don't. I'll pay attention more this year. I've never
really used a ticket ever, so I don't know, but
I know the few times that i've I did pay
attention going into the Blue White Game. It'd be no
different than just walking in to a practice or I
don't think they had tickets. I don't think there's tickets
to the game. I remember, off the top of my head,
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Ohio State used to charge five bucks. It was five
bucks and you got a ticket to go to the
spring game back then. Yeah, I don't recall bucks. I don't.
I don't recall there ever being charging to come to
the spring game. I don't recall that. Not not for parking.
It's like first come, first serve or whatever it is
that they have set up. If you already have your
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your slip, your your parking space, like when you tailgate,
maybe it's still yours. I'm not I'm not certain. I
don't want to speak out a term, but I do
not think that they're you are presenting a ticket, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Lee, Can you check a couple of things, price to
get into the Penn State Spring game and also yearly attendance,
because I want to see how big of a lie
they told each year when it comes to just the numbers. Here,
what's the price to get into that spring game?
Speaker 3 (15:38):
There?
Speaker 6 (15:39):
I'm seeing free for the Blue White game, but they can't.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Hold on probably packing them in. They're not.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Starting around twenty dollars.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Okay, interesting the tickets for the Blue White game.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
Yeah, I'm seeing free for the Blue White game. Is
that right?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I'm pretty I'm pretty certain it's free. Yeah, Well it'll
all be gone here fingers chose fingers. Now that wouldn't lea,
that's not me, that is dang. I don't think Lee's
fingers moved that quick pounds it man?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Oh, given names?
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Did you just say you dump that?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Lad? Did he dump that? He dumped it? Chris dumped it?
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Yeah? Yeah, that's dumping you mean Ronda?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Please dump that? Gentlemen. Ah, Well, at least we know
who's in charge.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Now.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Can I tell you that he dumped you? He dumped
you for saying that?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Can I tell you this runaway favorite to an MVP
on the show this far Brady Quinn after this segment, everybody.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Got it here mission averaging around sixty to sixty three
thousd Admission is free for the Blue White Game. Fans
will enter through gates A, B, and C N E,
which will open that noon parking.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
You don't think they're still counting just from for like
security measures.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Uh, like I said there there there aren't counters for
you know, for that, I don't see there being counters
even dor but because you have to scan, like if
you scan that, it's a counter. Like yeah, but if
if you don't have a ticket, I don't know how
they're they're counting, you know, I don't know I mean again,
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I don't know.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
I mean not on to get in the weeds here.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
There is AI surveillance where like when people walk through,
it'll be able to count people as it's surveillant, like
through camera footage. There's different software systems now and a
lot of these stadiums for these big events, they have
to I mean it's mandated to some degree just because
God forbids something happen. Oftentimes they're they're trying their best
to do to be able to account for how many
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people are there, and God forbid anything happen, like who's where.
It's one of the reasons why like they might have
some way of tracking.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
That they do charge for parking. They do charge twenty
dollars and regular vehicle per RV sixty or sixty sixty
per bus. Cash or card sales will be accepted at parking.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Now it feels like, I hell a place to have
a stick city tailgate. I know that, you know that's
not a big enough game. I don't do it for
that game. Let's go live to our I have a
thought on Spring Game attendance insider Christopher.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
For the latest Carler.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
Yeah, so I've never done something as big as this,
But I do know working like growing up, I worked
at the Toledo Zoo and I worked a game for
ut Rockets for I want to say, well, yeah, basketball,
excuse me, you do have a hand counter there, like,
you know, even if you're not even way before AI,
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like you'd have a clicker, you'd like take it down
for every person coming through that gate.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Yeah, guy does, and everyone puts those together.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
At the end of the night.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
When I go to church, a guy has a clicker,
you know, he wants to know how many people are
at church, you know, some strange reason, but.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
You know, there's a listen. I think.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I think it's a sad day. It's unfortunate spring games
are going by the wayside. But I just hope that,
you know, more schools don't get accused of lying about
their attendance members, because that's really what concerns me with
all this.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
But again, to.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
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We'll tell you who that's next.
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Well, it is the Dan Patrick Show here on Fox
Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Who's got problems? Brady Quinn, Jonas
Knox with you here, I don't think in for Dan
and the guys. Coming up a little over fifteen minutes
from now here on Fox Sports Radio, we do have
a well, it's a little bit of a bummer for
one team in the world of sports. Some bad news
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handed out yesterday. We'll get into that for you here
on Fox Sports Radio. Bad news for the Dallas Cowboys.
Here Zach Martin, a future first ballot Hall of Famer.
He's got nine Pro Bowls, seven All Pros, two second
team All Pros. The only years he wasn't an All
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Pro were years that he was injured back in twenty
twenty and then this past season. But Zach Martin has
decided to reportedly call it a career after eleven years
with the Dallas Cowboys' phenomenal pick and now Dallas has
another hole on the offensive line that they significant hole.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, yeah, significant, you got it, gut well.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
I mean, first off, I'll just say this, he's a
first ballot Hall of Famer, Like I don't think it's
even There's been few offensive linemen. Joe Thomas is the
head the one that kind of comes to mind that
has immediately come in and just been one of the best.
I mean, Quentin Nelson's probably the other one. Happens to
be both having you know, he has it happens to
be a Domeer two. But they immediately came in and
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been one of the best offensive linemen, you know, for
the entirety of their career. I mean, a seven time
first team All Pro. He's got two more second team
All Pros in there with the nine Pro Bowls, So
pretty incredible career. I always wonder for guys like him
because he's played at such a high level and he's
been one of the best. I think over the last
five years. He's got a top five past rush win rate.
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If you're into deeper analytics and all this stuff, but
it's always surpriseding me for guys like him, who you
wonder like, could he have played another you know, year
or two, And if.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
He does, you know, maybe it's not at high of
a level.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
And so is the decision more you know, personal in
the sense of, hey, maybe I don't feel like I
can play quite as well as I used to where
it's the beating, it's the punting, it's everything else that
I've endured and I'm just done. Or does the Dallas
Cowboys and the lack of direction and feel like if
they're really all in, I mean, just looking at where
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this team is at, how big of a factor does
that play in all of it? And maybe it's like, look,
I had a great run a Hall of Fame career,
but I don't feel like the Dallas Cowboys are figuring
this thing out anytime soon. I wonder how that plays
a factor into the decision.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
You would have to take both of those elements into consideration.
If you're Zach Martin, how high level can I play?
And is it worth it to continue playing seeing the
current state of the team that I'm in and taking
a step further, would I want to start over in
a different market, and I think that the answer is no.
At the point in his career where he's getting, you know,
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dealing with the injuries that he's dealing with, you don't
want to start over in a different market. You've built
a Hall of Fame career, you've built a life in Dallas,
plan for the star, and you're on a team that
doesn't look like it's going in the right direction. I mean,
I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to see that.
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And if you're Zach Martin and you're on the inside,
he probably has a much different view of it than
even the people that are talking about it on the outside.
So when I look at what he's got going on
in his body of work, if he feels like it's
time for him to hang it up, he's probably hanging
it up because of those elements. Like I've done well enough,
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I made a lot of money. I've had a Hall
of Fame career, so I'll be able to continue to leverage,
you know what I was able to accomplish in the game,
and use a Hall of Fame career once I've become
a Hall of Famer, use being a Hall of Famer
to do the things that I want to do in
my next life. And I think it's pretty simple before
Guyl like hell, I think it's pretty simple, pretty cut
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and dry as to what will go into the thought
process of why you would feel like it's time to
hang up the cleats for for the last time.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I wondered about Joe Thomas, because there was some stuff
out there that it might have been Kansas City. There
was a trade that could have been done to Kansas
City towards the end of his career, and he just decided, listen,
I'll just stay in Cleveland and call it. I wonder
there would be suitors for Zach Martin. There would be teams,
oh yeah, interested in Zach Martin. But I wonder if
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he's just like, man, I don't want to go somewhere else.
I'll just deal with what it is and walk away.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Kansas City would be a suitor.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Yeah, Tray Smith is probably gonna leave to go cash in.
If you look at the offensive line in particularly in
the interior, Zach mar would be an upgrade. And so
you know, you wonder, like, how would that deal work
if he really wants to play, would he have to
force his way out? Maybe play play or doesn't want
to do that. There's a lot of you know, hurdles
they have to get through before that could happen.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
But you know, that's the tough part.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
I mean, I think that's what's one of the reasons
why when you heard Miles Garrett talk earlier this offseason about,
you know, when you get traded from Cleveland, go to
a to a contender, try to win.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
A Super Bowl. That's every player's desire, you know.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
I think once they're solidified, once they've demonstrated being and
playing at at the highest level of any player at
their position, you know, Miles Garrett in that conversation, Zach
Martin's in that conversation.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
And I think the hardest thing is it's it's for
a lot of these.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Guys, especially that playing in the trenches right now, they
feel like crap. Their body feels like crap, probably still
from the season and the aches and pains and everything else.
But then you kind of get through a period of
time where, like let's says, not even a part of
the OTAs and and mini camp by June July gets
warm outside, your body starts feel a little better, you
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know it Just that's the hard part is you wonder
if he'll have second thoughts, or you wonder if you
know a player who's played at his caliber at a
really high level for the entire of his career doesn't
say like, well, maybe I want to come back, give
it one more shot, or maybe if I do come back,
I want to try to come back for a contender,
So let's try to make this go work elsewhere. I
just obviously my career was never anywhere close to that,
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so those thoughts, you know, for me, it was always
about like I would have I would want to I
probably would have exhausted a little bit more of an
opportunity to play in the NFL had I not had.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
The job that was presented to be on TV.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Like, it was never something I aim for, never something
I wanted to do, but once it was presented, and honestly,
after the first year, and there were some calls here
and there, you know, during that season when I was
calling games for college and NFL, I kind of was
presented with an opportunity to start, you know, calling a
full time and at that point I really had to
do some soul searching and thinking, like, don't pass up
(26:55):
something that maybe God's given me or this is a
great opportunity for me, that could be the next thing
I do in my life and try to chase something
that like maybe that door is closed and you're just
not listening to it, and so you know, it was
not easy, but like again, you know, those those decisions
are honestly made for ninety eight percent of players. You know,
(27:15):
Zach Martin's a part of that one two percent that
can make a decision on when he wants to retire
on his own. And it's very rare that players are
able to do that and get out, you know, relatively healthy.
So kudos to him on a Hall of Fame career.
You know, I'd love to see him keep playing because
he's such a great player. But I think I think
everyone can kind of understand the position that he's in.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I think one thing you also got to take into consideration.
I know it was. It was a determining factor for
me walking away was my knee. My knee was bothering me.
I blew my achilles tending out, and that was kind
of it. Like I knew I was overcompensating because of
how my knee felt, and I blew my achilles tending
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out when you're dealing with weight bearing, nagging injuries. Which
he was an iron man. He played and he didn't
deal with injuries, and now he's dealing with ankle ankle injuries.
The things that you're asked to do, and it may
look minimum to the onlooker, like offensive linemen don't have
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to go very far. Right, like you pull around. The
most running you do. You pull around and maybe you run,
you know, an average of maybe ten yards or so
a little maybe a little bit more, but hard. You're
probably running like like ten yards within a pooling play
of what you're doing. But when you have to deal
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with that and your weight bearing joints are giving you
problems and giving you issues, whether it's your nees, whether
it's your ankles, whether it's your toes or your feet,
or your hip or your quads, whatever it may be,
I'm just telling you it changed just everything. Like I
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could deal with my arm having tingles, I could deal
with my fingers being sore. I can deal with my shoulders.
I can deal with those things. But when it came
down to having to deal with how I had to
warm up, I would I would get up at least
an hour and a half before everybody was slated to
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come in for a training camp for regular days of work,
and I would go through a whole routine of going
through ice and heat and movement stem every single day
just to get warmed up to be ready to practice.
And I'm not nowhere near as big as a guy
(29:48):
like Zach. So to me, I think one of the
determining factors when you think about moving forward is how
do I do it? Sometimes it's just a matter of
how do I get through practices? You know? I remember
going down one time my ankle started hurting so bad
because I was compensating for what my knee was feeling.
(30:10):
I couldn't even make it through the individual period. The
coach looked at me like, are you fit serious? And
sit it out loud like I pulled out and grabbed
my ankle. I'm like, yo, I'm done. I can't do this.
I can't do the drills. In fact, I don't even
think I could do the practice. And I had the
trainers come over to me. I'm just saying, some people,
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the level of pain that you start to have to
deal with that circulates through your body when it's weight bearing,
because there's no way around it. There's no way you
can get around weight bearing situations and pain that can
really really force you to take a good, long heart,
look at yourself and say can I do it? Not
(30:54):
just do I want to do it? Because the part
of you that says you want to do it says
you're going to find a way to do it and
get through it. You start realizing that that can I
get through it becomes a bigger question then do I
want to do it?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
And to the previous point, you know, I think this
is also an indication that he looks around and goes, oh,
we're not going to be any good. Yeah, like oo, yeah,
we don't like the Eagles, just want a Super Bowl.
Washington's getting better. Now, I'm good here. I'll take my
you know, one hundred and eleven million dollar plus, you know,
money I've made in my career and just walk away
(31:25):
and get ready for the Hall of Fame and Canton
in five years from now. So hell of a run
for him, by the way, it just would like to
point out something that was you know, I don't know
if they meant to insult a certain member of this show,
but Brady Quinn pointing out how you know, if not
for TV. You know, I would have kept on playing
like we're just gonna go well, I would.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Have exhausted more efforts, I think, which was at that
point in my career, you know, similar to LeVar, Like
I back issues, I had a foot issue.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
There are a number of things that weren't going for me.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
The way I would have liked to.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
So I mean, we're just gonna go ahead and skip
past you know, Sunday night sports radio with me. I
guess we're just gonna skip past that and just go
straight to.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
TV, is what? Oh wow, pulled well.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
First off, that actually was not with you for like
two more years.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
I actually worked with you before you did. Yeah, that's
the film. Just so you're clear, buddy, Me and you
got more history than you. People may not know that.
People may not know that, but we cracked the microphone
and was in front of a camera before he even
worked with you. Yeah that's right there you go.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah, but then I got hold of him and never
looked back.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Hey, no, doubt got to start somewhere.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
That's not true.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Yeah, that's not true.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Just like bringing bringing someone back home from Vegas. That's what.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
So shut you on that, Joe Davis.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
You know all these other all these.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Other people that thought they could, you know, try and
convince Brady to stick around long term. Joe Davis who
ad Tim Brando, like all these guys stocked, all these
legends out there, no chance not have Rob Stone. Yeah,
you can go chase him around at a bowling tournament
all you want. He knows when they come home.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
He knew where he got it from.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
You like that, Just go ahead and tease what we're
talking about. The next segment that's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Lee because Emily, if you think that.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
This is gonna happen over the break, you're dead wrong.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
We come back from this break, we're gonna be talking
about what the hell is happening at Casa da Day.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Delaud No, he gave us the beats on the door
and the break it exactly it is can't miss Radio,
by the way, And that's not just the dope ass tease,
it's the truth.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
So here's a teas for you. If you think your
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All right, So our executive producer, Lee the Laugh who
wants no part of this one.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
So no, but this is going to be good. Don't
you hold back either, Lee, don't you hold back well?
Will withhold the names? Don't use any names. But this
story is phenomens, It's story.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Why is that? Why you guys dump me the first time? Yeah?
Used her name?
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Well? And and what was connected to what you said. Oh,
come on, no one's connecting that together. It was a
little connectable. But you know, I'm with you. I mean,
if you look it up on the internet and you
that's not a hill. I want you that. I don't
want you to die on that hill. You guys are crazy, hey,
but I don't want you to die on that hill.
Use separately, I probably wouldn't have done it.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
It's all good yourself slightly like clearly on the air,
dump that.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I mean, he is he is. That's like the most
is the most to hear?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Why the most sober lease outed on the air the
last three years of him saying dump that, I.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Mean he was on it. He was on that one.
He ain't on much, but he was on that one.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
It's it's weird, man, like you're more open to defending
her than you are us.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Let me just put it that that that's not that's
not inaccurate. That is not inaccurate.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
Now I don't know if that's accurate at all.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
If you had to throw cats under the bus and
you had to order it with us three of all
and her her no.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
Way, always, no way, no way. I under the bus
all the time.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Nobody, nobody who never throw you guys under the bus.
Newbody tell story. Lee.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
I don't even I don't even trust you when you
say stuff like this because you've told me to my face.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
You're like, yeah, I lie all the time. I do.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
But to you guys, yes you will.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Do you just lie?
Speaker 5 (36:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:43):
You were like, oh you just you do know? You
just you stayed back down the bar. I literally witnessed
that fifteen minutes time.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
No, that was different because I had to go down
to get my charger from somebody else who was bringing
it to me from RAI row.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
You're drinking at the bar.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
It is charged, having to be at the bottom of
a margarita glass.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
So I just thought, I hear.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
Things changed. Things changed when I told you something that
was in my heart that was the truth. And then
I get up to my room. I get you.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Know that still makes you a liar?
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, I see you, guys, if in your heart you
meant what you said at the moment in time, but
you changed and did something change, things changed, you still lied.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
About what you were going to do. You do know that?
Like if you said, oh, I'm going to bed, and
we went to bed thinking, oh, Lee's going to bed.
Let's go to bed. We go to bed, and we
see that you didn't go to bed. Just because you
changed your mind doesn't mean you're not culpable of the
lie that you told. You lied.
Speaker 6 (37:42):
I lied, but it wasn't with the intention of life.
I had a change of heart. I would have told you.
I would have if it was in my heart at the.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Time that no. I told you that. Q. Did you
get a text message from Lee say I changed my mind.
I'm at the border.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
I don't get anything. I told you guys. I had
a fat man moment. I went downstairs to get a package,
and then I ordered a milkshake because I wanted a milkshake.
And that's where I happened to see Lee at the bar.
There was no Charger in sight. He was just, you know,
chuck him off with everyone there.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
There we go by the way.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
I would love to see Lee get cross examined during
like a real real case. They would break him down
so fast. So are you lying, sir, No, not this time,
not in my heart?
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Lee? Oh you do know that that's what an habitual
liar does. You're a habitual You're greatly Let's talk. Let's
tell you guys, sound like her. Let's tee story. Here
we go. That's a great segue and transition. Tell us
the story, Lee, what story do you want? I mean
the living situation clearly.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Well, the living situation is Uh, regular listeners knows that
my house is currently being rented out for the month.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
So why is it being rented out?
Speaker 6 (38:51):
Lee?
Speaker 5 (38:51):
Why are you trying to sell the house?
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Well, because you want to break up with your chick
and y'all wanted to go your separate ways and divvy
it up.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
Yeah, we've had our troubles since. Yes, so we've had
it on the market.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
In the meantime, we had rented it out.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
No, No, you're missing you're renting I loss, but you're
we're missing a piece of the story. At some point
during you guys doing this, you guys rekindled your your
love and actually want to stay together. Yeah okay, but
but you got to put that out there, Lee, I
still rented the place out, didn't sell it.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
Yeah, it's basically to pay for you know. The idea
was to go on vacation, use the together rented together.
Yeah okay, Yeah, she's got a few businesses overseas.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
We go.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
I was gonna go check out the landscape out there.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Well, how how are those businesses doing?
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Landscape? What you're doing?
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Yeah, go ahead, So so right now we're back for
the month.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
She was gone, uh doing some business stuff. I was
out in New Orleans. We've since gotten back together. We
were in the rat motel for a week.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Her business doesn't do well enough, and you don't do
well enough here for you guys to have a place,
it wouldn't be outside of the place.
Speaker 6 (40:02):
It wouldn't It would wouldn't make great economical sense where
we were at my folks place.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Why did it make sense to rent the apartment out?
Speaker 6 (40:09):
Because the idea was to use that money to go
on vacation and would pay for the mortgage.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
It would be a little bit of a loss, but
it would pay for vacation. We got to continue this
in the next the next hour, bro, we got this
is not We had, by no means gotten close enough
to the end of this story.
Speaker 6 (40:23):
But it's okay because this is a deep rabbit It's
an ongoing songing.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
This rabbit hole is super deep. I don't know if
it is, Oh it is.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I just hopefully we will get a chance to explain
himself you know, I feel like he was derailed there.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
You know, that'd be ten dollars. What do you mean
that'll be ten dollars. That was very passive. Agree, let's
take a break. Let's take a break. I'll tell you
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here on this Friday. We do transition over to this
which should be a sad tale, especially for you guys.
There was a decision that was made and that decision
is that, according to the Sports Business Journal, USC and
Texas have canceled their spring game this year. Ohio State
and Nebraska have done the same, and so it feels
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like this is another aspect of NIL, the growth of
the sport, the change in the sport. But apparently spring
games are on borrow time and they're going to be
moving away from that great tradition. So there's that do
it that one?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Do you want that one? First?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
It's disappointing in part because here's what's getting lost on
everything is we're now making decisions on a sport at
it's not an amateur level anymore, but it's at a
lower level where there's still a ton of development that
goes on. I mean, you've got a son that's now
enrolled at Penn State. Imagine what he's going to look like,
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be like, play like in three or four years.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
And what bothers me about this is we're making decisions
to take away spring.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Games for two reasons, all right.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
And we're talking about like top school, blue blood schools,
you know, USC, Texas, I think Ohio State. They're all
opting instead of having a spring game basically having what
the NFL has and having like OTAs. And it's for
two reasons. The first is injury related. There's concern about injuries,
which I mean, maybe I'm missing something. Has that not
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always been the concern? Yeah, that's literally always been a
reason for concern for every coach in every college football
program in the history of college football.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
So that's the first thing.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
The second though, that's most important and probably trumps all
of it, is it's the money aspect that's involved with
you know, whether a guy's playing and starting, if he's
not using the transfer portal to get somewhere else. You know,
when I mentioned injuries, there's an element of guys not
wanting to do it because they're slated to go in
the first round after the next fall. You know, why
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do they have to be a part of it, which
I'm in all honestly, they can just sit out and
let some younger guys play. But it's the money aspect
of things, because you've got players who are looking at
that spring game and being told by their agents, being
told by their caretakers, whoever it is that they're you know,
this is where you're on the depth chart. If you
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want to leave, you and go play somewhere else, get
paid more. And so now they're looking at these spring
games as an indication of that so coaches are fearful
about putting out depth charts having guys go out there
and play in these spring games because they don't want
to lose players potentially to not playing.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
As much in the spring game or or you know,
having a poor performance.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
And now all of a sudden, they're not gonna be
a guy that's gonna be viewed as a starter going
into camp. So they've got this window to transfer. I'm
gonna go. I'm gonna go jet and go try to
find more money elsewhere at a place where I can
start and play. So, like I understand in saying all
this too, people are gonna say, well, yeah, shouldn't that
player have the opportunity to do that if they want? Sure,
if that's if that's how you know see this, like
(04:00):
if you don't believe in development, if you don't believe
in trying to develop, and maybe there's a point in
time where you're not ready, and maybe that's what this is.
Like there's a bigger story here about life where at
times you can get exposed to say like maybe I'm
not ready yet, maybe I need more time, Maybe I
need more development instead of just going somewhere else because
I'm not getting an opportunity here at one of these
(04:22):
bigger schools. But that's in essence what you're seeing, and
it stinks. It quite honestly stinks. It's a great event.
The spring game is a great event for a lot
of folks around the university, not just football, but like
everyone else, other sports teams, other students, other people around
you know, the alumni that come in for it. And
so it's disappointing now that's not going to exist the
(04:43):
way it once did.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I'll say I watched the evolution of the spring game
from when I played to now, and it is certainly
taking on a different a different feel this maybe six
years ago. It's like the attendance isn't the same, Like
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there have been times where they reported some really really
great crowds. And I'll just say, in particular specific I've
been to several, you know, different schools where I've gone
to their spring games in recent years and the game
wasn't you know, it wasn't a game anymore. But I
would say, more specifically, because I go to Penn State
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pretty much every year, I watched the evolution of it
and it has slowly turned into a glorified practice in
front of the public, the fans are able to come
out and watch the team practice because it was not
They call it the spring game, but it did not
come across as a game at all. The punts, the kickoffs,
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it was controlled, and it was ran just like it
was a period in practice. The way the way the
game air quotes was ran. It was ran like a
practice you blew the whistle did at a certain point.
Running backs weren't being taken to the ground, let alone
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in a pass rusher getting close to the quarterback in
passing downs. So to me, it was the spring game
has ultimately turned into what would be perceived as a
spring practice, a public practice that is held in the
main stadium and people are able to come watch and attend,
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and it's a it's considered to be a preseason or
precursor to what the team may look like going into
the next season, is how I would look at it.
So I don't know that it's based off of the
current NIL or transfer portal as to why the game
has evolved, but I do think that there are reasons
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why coaches have evolved what the game has represented, because
when I played, it was really a game you had
blue versus white, and you came out and it was
literally a real game. It was a game who's going
to win the game? It was tackling. Now, we weren't
able to tackle the quarterback. That was something we weren't
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able to do even when I was in school. But
everything else was live. Everything else was live. That's just
not how it is anymore. And it's interesting because I
don't see the amount of people coming out to watch
it like they did, like it was literally like a
game when I played. It's more like people are coming out.
It's kind of festive. It's not as much festive things
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as there would be if it was a regular game
Saturday during the season, but it's still a little festive.
People are able to come out, the weather's changed and
they do some tailgating, they have some fun, they go
and watch the game, but it's pretty light. It's very
light anymore. So I don't know. It's an evolution of
what where the sport is. I'm certain now now that
(08:04):
we're looking at it, with the nil and the transfer
portal being more prevalent and being you know, a part
of college sports, it definitely is playing a part in
it now. But I think that the game has has
continued to evolve from the nineties to where we are now,
you know, and you know the twenty twenties of what's
(08:24):
going on in you know, college football.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
That was one of those aspects of college football that
I didn't understand until I got to a place that
really loved college football, because growing up in southern California,
it's not like, hey, man, USC UCLA spring games right
around the corner, you guys going it. Just it didn't
have that that gravity. There wasn't you know, there's not
that appeal, that interest in it. But then you get
(08:47):
out to SEC country, ACC country, and it's like, wait,
you eighty thousand people show up to your spring games.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Really that might be.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
But there are places where they were doing eighty to
one hundred thousand people.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
That might be a little embellished.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
You don't think did last year? I called again, I
was there for it might be one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
That might be a little embellished, That's all I say.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Definitely wasn't that might be.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I could dig it might be a little embellished. I
know you feel inferior to them at this point. I
don't feel inferior. I can admit that I don't feel
inferior at all. This could be a low embellished.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Okay, but we'll call it seventy five thousand, all right,
we'll round down. But the point is it's a practice
game in which sixty to seventy to eighty et cetera,
et cetera, one thousand people show up to watch their team.
And yeah, there may not be a benefit from a
financial standpoint to the players, or I know, like Mike
(09:47):
Florio took the approach of well, they can't make money
off it. But I would imagine for that town, like
the businesses around that town, of course, that's a huge
money maker. And now the opportunity's gone because things are
changing the way they are.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Just April thirteenth, twenty twenty four, Ohio State has eighty
thy twelve people who attend the spring game there at
Ohio ctatey other notable big I guess spring game attendances.
You had Alabama at seventy two thousand, three hundred and
fifty eight, reportedly, Nebraska at sixty thousand and four to
fifty two, Michigan Notre Dame, and it.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Goes down from here.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Oklahoma had forty five thousand and eight sixty one Clemson
with forty seven thousand fans.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Notre Dame had about thirty seven hundred and twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
So yeah, could being ballast.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
I'm not only going to send you the article with this,
I'm actually going to send you the fact they have
video evidence to go along with it.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I don't know that video evidence would give a you
are you going to sit there and count I'm not.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
It feels like this is a weird hill to die on.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I don't need to die on it. I'm not dying
on it, and I'm not going to argue with still
about it. I'm just saying I could stand on it,
standing on that hill.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
You standing on that.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I just that it could be. I mean, I could
be wrong. Hey, forget about.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
If your movie maybe balancing on like a pogo.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Stay, let's just move on, hey, forget about it. Forget
about it. Not to say it what I said, I'm
not going to die on that hill. But I said
what i'd say, Lee.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
This is gonna be a weird request. But can you
look this up? I believe that there was one year
in which Georgia had a spring game and Ludacris showed
up and handed out condoms. That was Kentucky and that
was midnight Man, I think that was I think that
was a Georgia game.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Georgia Spring game?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Was it?
Speaker 4 (11:32):
And if it was right and it was basketball, wouldn't
you think it would be Drake if anyone good call,
doesn't he kind of follow like the bandwagon programs?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yes, Kobe Roster, Kentucky.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
I believe this was in twenty sixteen. Yes, it was
Georgia to the delight of ninety three thousand in attendance
at Sanford Stadium.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
To the delight of ninety three thousand.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
And he brought uh brought condoms?
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Yes he did.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
How about ninety three thousand condoms?
Speaker 6 (11:57):
I don't think he brought ninety three thousand condoms? But
that was the attendance.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Who paid for all those? Usaid?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Well done hard, right hand by Quinn.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Maybe maybe it seems topical these days, you know.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
So Georgia actually apologized for giving Ludacris the condoms to
get to hand out, so they gave them to sixty
five grand as well as well as two bottles of
his own cognac.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Wait say that again.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Georgia apologizes for giving Luda sixty five k for the
for the event, condoms and two bottles of his own cognac.
But I think he was handed out the condoms.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
They gave him two bottles of his own cognac, a.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Couple of balloon animals for the road other all that. Wow, okay,
all right, better safe than sorry, you.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Very interesting According to the contract, Yeah, they a box
of condoms was included in the in the contract, Lee,
what would you.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Be looking for if you're a college student?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Those two bottles?
Speaker 6 (13:08):
Yeah, that sounds about right.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
What do you do one of these now? And shot
glasses instead of a condom? He'd use one out of
the two.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
By the way, I am showing that Penn State will
close its spring practice April twenty six with the annual
Blue White Game. Yeah, Blue, So are you gonna be
over there for spring game?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I mean how many thousands of people would you say?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
The over under? I don't know. Yeah, for the attendance there,
thirty twenty twenty five. But we'll we'll report forty you know,
it's messed up. Man will report whatever whatever number you
know you could get too off of. I'll say this
maybe at any one point in time, like everybody as
a whole who comes in and goes out. I could
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see if the numbers got there that way. I could
see if the numbers got that way, you're counting everybody
who walks in, which I don't know how you keep
track of at. I don't know how you keep track
of at.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
I mean there's security measures where like you can have
a counter this as part of whatever people are walking through.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Right, No, there's not. Some stadiums don't have counters.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
They don't have counters, so when they when they scan
your ticket, you don't think that counts as well.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
But I don't think they scan tickets at the Blue
White Game.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Oh I think they do. You have to nowadays for
security measures.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I don't. I'll pay attention more this year. I've never
really used a ticket ever, so I don't know, but
I know the few times that i've I did pay
attention going into the Blue White Game. It'd be no
different than just walking in to a practice or I
don't think they had tickets. I don't think there's tickets
to the game. I remember, off the top of my head,
(14:49):
Ohio State used to charge five bucks. It was five
bucks and you got a ticket to go to the
spring game back then. Yeah, I don't recall bucks. I don't.
I don't recall there ever being charging to come to
the spring game. I don't recall that. Not not for parking.
It's like first come, first serve or whatever it is
that they have set up. If you already have your
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your slip, your your parking space, like when you tailgate,
maybe it's still yours. I'm not I'm not certain. I
don't want to speak out a term, but I do
not think that they're you are presenting a ticket, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Lee, Can you check a couple of things, price to
get into the Penn State Spring game and also yearly attendance,
because I want to see how big of a lie
they told each year when it comes to just the numbers. Here,
what's the price to get into that spring game?
Speaker 3 (15:38):
There?
Speaker 6 (15:39):
I'm seeing free for the Blue White game, but they can't.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Hold on probably packing them in. They're not.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Starting around twenty dollars.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Okay, interesting the tickets for the Blue White game.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
Yeah, I'm seeing free for the Blue White game. Is
that right?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I'm pretty I'm pretty certain it's free. Yeah, Well it'll
all be gone here fingers chose fingers. Now that wouldn't lea,
that's not me, that is dang. I don't think Lee's
fingers moved that quick pounds it man?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Oh, given names?
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Did you just say you dump that?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Lad? Did he dump that? He dumped it? Chris dumped it?
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Yeah? Yeah, that's dumping you mean Ronda?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Please dump that? Gentlemen. Ah, Well, at least we know
who's in charge.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Now.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Can I tell you that he dumped you? He dumped
you for saying that?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Can I tell you this runaway favorite to an MVP
on the show this far Brady Quinn after this segment, everybody.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Got it here mission averaging around sixty to sixty three
thousd Admission is free for the Blue White Game. Fans
will enter through gates A, B, and C N E,
which will open that noon parking.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
You don't think they're still counting just from for like
security measures.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Uh, like I said there there there aren't counters for
you know, for that, I don't see there being counters
even dor but because you have to scan, like if
you scan that, it's a counter. Like yeah, but if
if you don't have a ticket, I don't know how
they're they're counting, you know, I don't know I mean again,
(17:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
I mean not on to get in the weeds here.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
There is AI surveillance where like when people walk through,
it'll be able to count people as it's surveillant, like
through camera footage. There's different software systems now and a
lot of these stadiums for these big events, they have
to I mean it's mandated to some degree just because
God forbids something happen. Oftentimes they're they're trying their best
to do to be able to account for how many
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people are there, and God forbid anything happen, like who's where.
It's one of the reasons why like they might have
some way of tracking.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
That they do charge for parking. They do charge twenty
dollars and regular vehicle per RV sixty or sixty sixty
per bus. Cash or card sales will be accepted at parking.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Now it feels like, I hell a place to have
a stick city tailgate. I know that, you know that's
not a big enough game. I don't do it for
that game. Let's go live to our I have a
thought on Spring Game attendance insider Christopher.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
For the latest Carler.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
Yeah, so I've never done something as big as this,
But I do know working like growing up, I worked
at the Toledo Zoo and I worked a game for
ut Rockets for I want to say, well, yeah, basketball,
excuse me, you do have a hand counter there, like,
you know, even if you're not even way before AI,
(18:56):
like you'd have a clicker, you'd like take it down
for every person coming through that gate.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Yeah, guy does, and everyone puts those together.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
At the end of the night.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
When I go to church, a guy has a clicker,
you know, he wants to know how many people are
at church, you know, some strange reason, but.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
You know, there's a listen. I think.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I think it's a sad day. It's unfortunate spring games
are going by the wayside. But I just hope that,
you know, more schools don't get accused of lying about
their attendance members, because that's really what concerns me with
all this.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
But again, to.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
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Well, it is the Dan Patrick Show here on Fox
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from now here on Fox Sports Radio, we do have
a well, it's a little bit of a bummer for
one team in the world of sports. Some bad news
(20:23):
handed out yesterday. We'll get into that for you here
on Fox Sports Radio. Bad news for the Dallas Cowboys.
Here Zach Martin, a future first ballot Hall of Famer.
He's got nine Pro Bowls, seven All Pros, two second
team All Pros. The only years he wasn't an All
(20:44):
Pro were years that he was injured back in twenty
twenty and then this past season. But Zach Martin has
decided to reportedly call it a career after eleven years
with the Dallas Cowboys' phenomenal pick and now Dallas has
another hole on the offensive line that they significant hole.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, yeah, significant, you got it, gut well.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
I mean, first off, I'll just say this, he's a
first ballot Hall of Famer, Like I don't think it's
even There's been few offensive linemen. Joe Thomas is the
head the one that kind of comes to mind that
has immediately come in and just been one of the best.
I mean, Quentin Nelson's probably the other one. Happens to
be both having you know, he has it happens to
be a Domeer two. But they immediately came in and
(21:27):
been one of the best offensive linemen, you know, for
the entirety of their career. I mean, a seven time
first team All Pro. He's got two more second team
All Pros in there with the nine Pro Bowls, So
pretty incredible career. I always wonder for guys like him
because he's played at such a high level and he's
been one of the best. I think over the last
five years. He's got a top five past rush win rate.
(21:51):
If you're into deeper analytics and all this stuff, but
it's always surpriseding me for guys like him, who you
wonder like, could he have played another you know, year
or two, And if.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
He does, you know, maybe it's not at high of
a level.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
And so is the decision more you know, personal in
the sense of, hey, maybe I don't feel like I
can play quite as well as I used to where
it's the beating, it's the punting, it's everything else that
I've endured and I'm just done. Or does the Dallas
Cowboys and the lack of direction and feel like if
they're really all in, I mean, just looking at where
(22:26):
this team is at, how big of a factor does
that play in all of it? And maybe it's like, look,
I had a great run a Hall of Fame career,
but I don't feel like the Dallas Cowboys are figuring
this thing out anytime soon. I wonder how that plays
a factor into the decision.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
You would have to take both of those elements into consideration.
If you're Zach Martin, how high level can I play?
And is it worth it to continue playing seeing the
current state of the team that I'm in and taking
a step further, would I want to start over in
a different market, and I think that the answer is no.
At the point in his career where he's getting, you know,
(23:03):
dealing with the injuries that he's dealing with, you don't
want to start over in a different market. You've built
a Hall of Fame career, you've built a life in Dallas,
plan for the star, and you're on a team that
doesn't look like it's going in the right direction. I mean,
I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to see that.
(23:24):
And if you're Zach Martin and you're on the inside,
he probably has a much different view of it than
even the people that are talking about it on the outside.
So when I look at what he's got going on
in his body of work, if he feels like it's
time for him to hang it up, he's probably hanging
it up because of those elements. Like I've done well enough,
(23:47):
I made a lot of money. I've had a Hall
of Fame career, so I'll be able to continue to leverage,
you know what I was able to accomplish in the game,
and use a Hall of Fame career once I've become
a Hall of Famer, use being a Hall of Famer
to do the things that I want to do in
my next life. And I think it's pretty simple before
Guyl like hell, I think it's pretty simple, pretty cut
(24:08):
and dry as to what will go into the thought
process of why you would feel like it's time to
hang up the cleats for for the last time.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I wondered about Joe Thomas, because there was some stuff
out there that it might have been Kansas City. There
was a trade that could have been done to Kansas
City towards the end of his career, and he just decided, listen,
I'll just stay in Cleveland and call it. I wonder
there would be suitors for Zach Martin. There would be teams,
oh yeah, interested in Zach Martin. But I wonder if
(24:38):
he's just like, man, I don't want to go somewhere else.
I'll just deal with what it is and walk away.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Kansas City would be a suitor.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Yeah, Tray Smith is probably gonna leave to go cash in.
If you look at the offensive line in particularly in
the interior, Zach mar would be an upgrade. And so
you know, you wonder, like, how would that deal work
if he really wants to play, would he have to
force his way out? Maybe play play or doesn't want
to do that. There's a lot of you know, hurdles
they have to get through before that could happen.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
But you know, that's the tough part.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
I mean, I think that's what's one of the reasons
why when you heard Miles Garrett talk earlier this offseason about,
you know, when you get traded from Cleveland, go to
a to a contender, try to win.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
A Super Bowl. That's every player's desire, you know.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
I think once they're solidified, once they've demonstrated being and
playing at at the highest level of any player at
their position, you know, Miles Garrett in that conversation, Zach
Martin's in that conversation.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
And I think the hardest thing is it's it's for
a lot of these.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Guys, especially that playing in the trenches right now, they
feel like crap. Their body feels like crap, probably still
from the season and the aches and pains and everything else.
But then you kind of get through a period of
time where, like let's says, not even a part of
the OTAs and and mini camp by June July gets
warm outside, your body starts feel a little better, you
(25:58):
know it Just that's the hard part is you wonder
if he'll have second thoughts, or you wonder if you
know a player who's played at his caliber at a
really high level for the entire of his career doesn't
say like, well, maybe I want to come back, give
it one more shot, or maybe if I do come back,
I want to try to come back for a contender,
So let's try to make this go work elsewhere. I
just obviously my career was never anywhere close to that,
(26:20):
so those thoughts, you know, for me, it was always
about like I would have I would want to I
probably would have exhausted a little bit more of an
opportunity to play in the NFL had I not had.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
The job that was presented to be on TV.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Like, it was never something I aim for, never something
I wanted to do, but once it was presented, and honestly,
after the first year, and there were some calls here
and there, you know, during that season when I was
calling games for college and NFL, I kind of was
presented with an opportunity to start, you know, calling a
full time and at that point I really had to
do some soul searching and thinking, like, don't pass up
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something that maybe God's given me or this is a
great opportunity for me, that could be the next thing
I do in my life and try to chase something
that like maybe that door is closed and you're just
not listening to it, and so you know, it was
not easy, but like again, you know, those those decisions
are honestly made for ninety eight percent of players. You know,
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Zach Martin's a part of that one two percent that
can make a decision on when he wants to retire
on his own. And it's very rare that players are
able to do that and get out, you know, relatively healthy.
So kudos to him on a Hall of Fame career.
You know, I'd love to see him keep playing because
he's such a great player. But I think I think
everyone can kind of understand the position that he's in.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I think one thing you also got to take into consideration.
I know it was. It was a determining factor for
me walking away was my knee. My knee was bothering me.
I blew my achilles tending out, and that was kind
of it. Like I knew I was overcompensating because of
how my knee felt, and I blew my achilles tending
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out when you're dealing with weight bearing, nagging injuries. Which
he was an iron man. He played and he didn't
deal with injuries, and now he's dealing with ankle ankle injuries.
The things that you're asked to do, and it may
look minimum to the onlooker, like offensive linemen don't have
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to go very far. Right, like you pull around. The
most running you do. You pull around and maybe you run,
you know, an average of maybe ten yards or so
a little maybe a little bit more, but hard. You're
probably running like like ten yards within a pooling play
of what you're doing. But when you have to deal
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with that and your weight bearing joints are giving you
problems and giving you issues, whether it's your nees, whether
it's your ankles, whether it's your toes or your feet,
or your hip or your quads, whatever it may be,
I'm just telling you it changed just everything. Like I
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could deal with my arm having tingles, I could deal
with my fingers being sore. I can deal with my shoulders.
I can deal with those things. But when it came
down to having to deal with how I had to
warm up, I would I would get up at least
an hour and a half before everybody was slated to
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come in for a training camp for regular days of work,
and I would go through a whole routine of going
through ice and heat and movement stem every single day
just to get warmed up to be ready to practice.
And I'm not nowhere near as big as a guy
(29:48):
like Zach. So to me, I think one of the
determining factors when you think about moving forward is how
do I do it? Sometimes it's just a matter of
how do I get through practices? You know? I remember
going down one time my ankle started hurting so bad
because I was compensating for what my knee was feeling.
(30:10):
I couldn't even make it through the individual period. The
coach looked at me like, are you fit serious? And
sit it out loud like I pulled out and grabbed
my ankle. I'm like, yo, I'm done. I can't do this.
I can't do the drills. In fact, I don't even
think I could do the practice. And I had the
trainers come over to me. I'm just saying, some people,
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the level of pain that you start to have to
deal with that circulates through your body when it's weight bearing,
because there's no way around it. There's no way you
can get around weight bearing situations and pain that can
really really force you to take a good, long heart,
look at yourself and say can I do it? Not
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just do I want to do it? Because the part
of you that says you want to do it says
you're going to find a way to do it and
get through it. You start realizing that that can I
get through it becomes a bigger question then do I
want to do it?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
And to the previous point, you know, I think this
is also an indication that he looks around and goes, oh,
we're not going to be any good. Yeah, like oo, yeah,
we don't like the Eagles, just want a Super Bowl.
Washington's getting better. Now, I'm good here. I'll take my
you know, one hundred and eleven million dollar plus, you know,
money I've made in my career and just walk away
(31:25):
and get ready for the Hall of Fame and Canton
in five years from now. So hell of a run
for him, by the way, it just would like to
point out something that was you know, I don't know
if they meant to insult a certain member of this show,
but Brady Quinn pointing out how you know, if not
for TV. You know, I would have kept on playing
like we're just gonna go well, I would.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Have exhausted more efforts, I think, which was at that
point in my career, you know, similar to LeVar, Like
I back issues, I had a foot issue.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
There are a number of things that weren't going for me.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
The way I would have liked to.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
So I mean, we're just gonna go ahead and skip
past you know, Sunday night sports radio with me. I
guess we're just gonna skip past that and just go
straight to.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
TV, is what? Oh wow, pulled well.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
First off, that actually was not with you for like
two more years.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
I actually worked with you before you did. Yeah, that's
the film. Just so you're clear, buddy, Me and you
got more history than you. People may not know that.
People may not know that, but we cracked the microphone
and was in front of a camera before he even
worked with you. Yeah that's right there you go.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah, but then I got hold of him and never
looked back.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Hey, no, doubt got to start somewhere.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
That's not true.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Yeah, that's not true.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Just like bringing bringing someone back home from Vegas. That's what.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
So shut you on that, Joe Davis.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
You know all these other all these.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Other people that thought they could, you know, try and
convince Brady to stick around long term. Joe Davis who
ad Tim Brando, like all these guys stocked, all these
legends out there, no chance not have Rob Stone. Yeah,
you can go chase him around at a bowling tournament
all you want. He knows when they come home.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
He knew where he got it from.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
You like that, Just go ahead and tease what we're
talking about. The next segment that's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Lee because Emily, if you think that.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
This is gonna happen over the break, you're dead wrong.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
We come back from this break, we're gonna be talking
about what the hell is happening at Casa da Day.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Delaud No, he gave us the beats on the door
and the break it exactly it is can't miss Radio,
by the way, And that's not just the dope ass tease,
it's the truth.
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All right, So our executive producer, Lee the Laugh who
wants no part of this one.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
So no, but this is going to be good. Don't
you hold back either, Lee, don't you hold back well?
Will withhold the names? Don't use any names. But this
story is phenomens, It's story.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Why is that? Why you guys dump me the first time? Yeah?
Used her name?
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Well? And and what was connected to what you said. Oh,
come on, no one's connecting that together. It was a
little connectable. But you know, I'm with you. I mean,
if you look it up on the internet and you
that's not a hill. I want you that. I don't
want you to die on that hill. You guys are crazy, hey,
but I don't want you to die on that hill.
Use separately, I probably wouldn't have done it.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
It's all good yourself slightly like clearly on the air,
dump that.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I mean, he is he is. That's like the most
is the most to hear?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Why the most sober lease outed on the air the
last three years of him saying dump that, I.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Mean he was on it. He was on that one.
He ain't on much, but he was on that one.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
It's it's weird, man, like you're more open to defending
her than you are us.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Let me just put it that that that's not that's
not inaccurate. That is not inaccurate.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
Now I don't know if that's accurate at all.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
If you had to throw cats under the bus and
you had to order it with us three of all
and her her no.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
Way, always, no way, no way. I under the bus
all the time.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Nobody, nobody who never throw you guys under the bus.
Newbody tell story. Lee.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
I don't even I don't even trust you when you
say stuff like this because you've told me to my face.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
You're like, yeah, I lie all the time. I do.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
But to you guys, yes you will.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Do you just lie?
Speaker 5 (36:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:43):
You were like, oh you just you do know? You
just you stayed back down the bar. I literally witnessed
that fifteen minutes time.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
No, that was different because I had to go down
to get my charger from somebody else who was bringing
it to me from RAI row.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
You're drinking at the bar.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
It is charged, having to be at the bottom of
a margarita glass.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
So I just thought, I hear.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
Things changed. Things changed when I told you something that
was in my heart that was the truth. And then
I get up to my room. I get you.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Know that still makes you a liar?
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, I see you, guys, if in your heart you
meant what you said at the moment in time, but
you changed and did something change, things changed, you still lied.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
About what you were going to do. You do know that?
Like if you said, oh, I'm going to bed, and
we went to bed thinking, oh, Lee's going to bed.
Let's go to bed. We go to bed, and we
see that you didn't go to bed. Just because you
changed your mind doesn't mean you're not culpable of the
lie that you told. You lied.
Speaker 6 (37:42):
I lied, but it wasn't with the intention of life.
I had a change of heart. I would have told you.
I would have if it was in my heart at the.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Time that no. I told you that. Q. Did you
get a text message from Lee say I changed my mind.
I'm at the border.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
I don't get anything. I told you guys. I had
a fat man moment. I went downstairs to get a package,
and then I ordered a milkshake because I wanted a milkshake.
And that's where I happened to see Lee at the bar.
There was no Charger in sight. He was just, you know,
chuck him off with everyone there.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
There we go by the way.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
I would love to see Lee get cross examined during
like a real real case. They would break him down
so fast. So are you lying, sir, No, not this time,
not in my heart?
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Lee? Oh you do know that that's what an habitual
liar does. You're a habitual You're greatly Let's talk. Let's
tell you guys, sound like her. Let's tee story. Here
we go. That's a great segue and transition. Tell us
the story, Lee, what story do you want? I mean
the living situation clearly.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Well, the living situation is Uh, regular listeners knows that
my house is currently being rented out for the month.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
So why is it being rented out?
Speaker 6 (38:51):
Lee?
Speaker 5 (38:51):
Why are you trying to sell the house?
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Well, because you want to break up with your chick
and y'all wanted to go your separate ways and divvy
it up.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
Yeah, we've had our troubles since. Yes, so we've had
it on the market.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
In the meantime, we had rented it out.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
No, No, you're missing you're renting I loss, but you're
we're missing a piece of the story. At some point
during you guys doing this, you guys rekindled your your
love and actually want to stay together. Yeah okay, but
but you got to put that out there, Lee, I
still rented the place out, didn't sell it.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
Yeah, it's basically to pay for you know. The idea
was to go on vacation, use the together rented together.
Yeah okay, Yeah, she's got a few businesses overseas.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
We go.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
I was gonna go check out the landscape out there.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Well, how how are those businesses doing?
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Landscape? What you're doing?
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Yeah, go ahead, So so right now we're back for
the month.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
She was gone, uh doing some business stuff. I was
out in New Orleans. We've since gotten back together. We
were in the rat motel for a week.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Her business doesn't do well enough, and you don't do
well enough here for you guys to have a place,
it wouldn't be outside of the place.
Speaker 6 (40:02):
It wouldn't It would wouldn't make great economical sense where
we were at my folks place.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Why did it make sense to rent the apartment out?
Speaker 6 (40:09):
Because the idea was to use that money to go
on vacation and would pay for the mortgage.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
It would be a little bit of a loss, but
it would pay for vacation. We got to continue this
in the next the next hour, bro, we got this
is not We had, by no means gotten close enough
to the end of this story.
Speaker 6 (40:23):
But it's okay because this is a deep rabbit It's
an ongoing songing.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
This rabbit hole is super deep. I don't know if
it is, Oh it is.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I just hopefully we will get a chance to explain
himself you know, I feel like he was derailed there.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
You know, that'd be ten dollars. What do you mean
that'll be ten dollars. That was very passive. Agree, let's
take a break. Let's take a break. I'll tell you
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