April 15, 2025 • 40 mins
Linemen let their presence known in the top of the new Draft Odds. NFL Insider Pete Prisco weighs in on the biggest headlines heading into the Draft. Plus, another edition of Lee’s Leftovers.
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Speaker 3 (02:13):
Could be better, could be worse.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yes, that's your modeling lifely could be better, could be worse.
Maybe the way in which we've got the NFL Draft
starting to shake out last night, the draft odds have
been updated and it seems like the top five are set.
Now we don't know if these five players will go
to the teams that currently stand in these spots. It
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seems like Tennessee's gonna take cam Ward to number one.
That's what the betting odds are telling us. He's a
heavy favorite. It seems like the betting odds are telling
us that Cleveland's going to take Travis Hunter number two.
Now where things get interesting, and we talked about earlier today,
Shador Sanders is doing a private workout for the New
York Giants. And the reason why that's interesting is not
necessarily because they're doing the workout, the timing of it.
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The draft is nine days away. Typically most of these
things are put to bed by now. You have a
pretty good idea if you're a team of who you
are taking. You've done the visits, you've done a workout.
The Hayes and the barn That's what stands out about
how late this workout is with shad Or Sanders, leading
to a thought that maybe the Giants aren't going to
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stay at number three. But the odds on favorite to
go three is Abdul Carter. And then in the recent days,
Will Campbell is the odds on favorite to go number four.
New England's currently drafting there, and then number five. This
came out last night. Mason Graham, the defensive tackle of
the University of Michigan. He is the odds on favorite
to go at five, potentially to Jacksonville. Now that's somewhat newsworthy.
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What was more newsworthy was what Dave Wydell, a former
offensive lineman who was also a long snapper in the league,
had to say about Mason Graham, which you got to
hear it.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
I'd love to see Travis Hunter there not one of
the reasons of the Jaguars need a player like Travis
Hunter with the swag or no, no, no, no, one
of the guys that can play football. And I'll say this,
I watched the highlight film of Will Campbell today, the
LSU lineman that seems to be able to play almost
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any position. Doesn't have the length that they talk about
long arms like I probably had or Ben Coleman or
Beselli did, but he can play football. Mason Graham had
two outstanding games this year, had issues throughout his most
important collegiate football season, and I would never never risk
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a fifth pick overall on a player like Mason Graham,
even though we could use the help an interior defensive line.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
So a pretty strong take. Now, I think you got
to take everything with a great assault. A lot of
people have opinions, they have strong opinions. I got to
watch Mason Graham over the course of his career, and
I think the hard thing with defensive tackles is if
you're reading the box score, you're going to look for
the production, probably similar to a guy like damikin Sue right,
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Tommy Harris, I'm sure there's some guys that stand out
to you in your day, and it's really difficult to
compare to that one because those guys were all all timers.
I mean, some of the greatest ever do it at
a defensive tackle position. But also because you know, it
was hard because who else they played with sometimes to
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be able to truly focus on them, you know, Mason
Graham was a part of a defensive front for Michigan
that you know, really the focus and the center point
was Mason Graham. It was the interior of that defensive
line for Michigan, and it makes things a little bit harder.
Teams ran a lot of outside zone versus them. I
mean they did that oftentimes versus Ohio State did that
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a lot versus them, and by the way, wasn't overlly
successful at doing it this past year, but in part
doing it to try to run away way from a
guy like Mason Graham who's at times been a game wrecker.
So you know, everyone's got their own opinion on these players.
I do find that interesting though, where you get a
guy who kind of takes a strong take on it,
passionate about it, who I don't know outside of a
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highlight film, like how much he's really washed. And so
that's what always makes me kind of go all right,
like the interesting take, great take for radio, But how much.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Do we really look into that, LeVar. I mean.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Mason Graham in particular, I've seen him since he was
in high school. He's been special since he was at
Servite and that continued on at Michigan. I mean he
was one of the catalystics of the team when they
won the national title. I mean he's been starting. I'm
pretty certain since his freshman year, like, he's been pretty
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special as a player. He does, he does. He project
out to be a top ten pick, a top five
pick in the NFL draft.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, yeah, he does.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
He's six 'y three, he's three twenty, and he understands
how to defeat blockers.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
He plays with great leverage.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
When you talk about you know, a guy who is
athletic enough to get across the face and get into
their gap and in a gap scheme, and somebody who's
able to take on double teams, split double teams, whn't
necessary all the tools that you want to see in
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a defensive tackle that that you know comes to the
table with a high grade.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Mason Graham has that.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
And you look at last year, you know, the Rams
with their rookies of the year, you know, and and
how their defensive front was changed by a first.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
And Fisk is who I'm talking about.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
I look at I look at Mason, and I say
he's a little different than Fisk in some regards, but
in others he may have powers and strengths that Fisk
don't doesn't bring to the table. I mean, I don't
think it was an accurate and accurate readout of Mason Graham.
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In fact, I thought it was inaccurate. Honestly, I thought
it was kind of like it was shooting shooting shade,
and I thought he started off with shooting shade and
kind of finished with shooting shade, like he the only
person he didn't shade was was the lineman out of LSU,
and he even shaded him on the length of his arms,
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but said nonetheless, he can play ball.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
But he shaded Travis Hunter. Like please, bro, like you're
talking about Jacksonville, right, You're about the Jags.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
This is a this has been an irrelevant team for
quite some time, and a guy like Travis Hunter helped.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Your team immediately. A guy like Mason Graham on your roster.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Believe you me, you will eat those words if they
draft Mason Graham because he's a guy that can acclimate
and integrate into the pro game. I think he will
do it with with a good level of success. So
I think that's an inaccurate readout. Q. I don't want
to get into like, like you know, kind of taking
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shots at Buddy for what he had to say, but
it kind of came across as kind of a lazy take,
you know, an uninformed take on on Mason Graham.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Yeah, and look, the.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Reality is it's a need for the Jacksonville Jaguars. If
they went with defensive tackle, you could see that making
some sense for them. And he's one of the best
in this draft class. Uh So that's where it lines up.
A few other notes on the draft, by the way,
you Jay Glazer, Joe Douglas, Jenny Taft all for Fox
Sports Radio starting eight pm Eastern Time Thursday next week
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right here on Fox Sports Radio, you guys are going
to be covering the first round of the draft, given
predictions on picks and insights into those picks. A very
well rounded group before, right, Jay Glaizer, the insider, you're
the former player. You got Joe Douglas, former general manager,
and then Jenny Taft, who's got a lot of stories,
has followed these guys throughout their college career, So a
lot of insight as far as the.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Background of these young men.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
But a lot of these young men and I'm not
sure how many people know this, right, You're getting in
the league, and it's the first time you really get
to sign your a big apparel deal. You know, typically,
you know you wore whatever you know you wore when
you went to college. Nowadays it's a bit different, but
most apparel companies don't really inc up the prospects until
they become a draft prospect. You know, that's where more
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the money's at. And so under Armour has really taken
a big swiming. They're back in the NFL shoe game.
They've back, you know, given the rights to be a
part of that, and obviously the gloves as well. And
they've also kind of dipped into a number of players
who are looking at being first round picks. Cam Ward,
for example, at quarterback, slated to give me the number
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one overall pick, Luther Burden, the third wide receiver out
of missou really talented player, nick Emon Worri, the safety
I believe out of South Carolina, Matthew Golden, the blazing
fast receiver out of Texas, and then the offensive lineman
Tyler Booker out of Alabama. All projective your first round picks,
all ink their deal with under Armour. And this is
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like near and dear to my heart because when I
was coming out in the draft, it was between Nike
and under Armour, and honestly, at the time, like I
wanted to go with under Armour, like there was something
about just the brand.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Kevin Plank talk with a lot of people with their group.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
The biggest issue was is I could not find a
pair of shoes at that time that like would allow
allowed me to feel comfortable like I just I'd want Adidas.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
In college, that was what Notre Dame had at the time.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I had Nike before that, Nike obviously growing up with
the exception of my Converse basketball shoes when I first
started playing the Latrell Spree Wells to this day I
still hold near and dear.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
To my heart.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
But they just didn't have a cleat that I could
even use.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
In fact, when I was trying different cleats and trying
to work out, and then I ended up like resorting
to like an offensive lineman cleat because of the ankle
protection and gave me, but just the support and the comfort,
it was like they really didn't have a speed cleat
that was comfortable, And so that ultimately ended up being
the difference in where I went to Nike as opposed
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to going to under Armour. But I can always look
back on that and thought if it was now, you know,
given how far they've come since, then be a different story.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Now you were an under Armour guy, I'm not mistaken.
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I was the first one to leave Nike.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
They say Ray, They'll say ray, But if I'd have
got the gold jacket, they would have, they would have
probably stayed it a little bit more. Plus it's a
better story. He's a raven, you know, raven legend and
greatest all time. But I was the first one. I
was actually the first dude to leave Nike to go
with under Armour. And I did wear the cleats when
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the bottles were still popping off and and different things
like that. But a lot of love for Kevin playing,
a lot of love for you know, my time working
with under Armour. I had an opportunity to develop talent,
you know, through through youth youth football. Did an eighth
grade game with them, like did the under Armour under
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the All American game with them for Dion with coach when.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
You were paying some of the kids on the tables
that were you're doing.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
I do not know of anything that you're speaking of
right now, I can confirm nor deny any type of
inappropriate wrong doings with any of the young guys there,
but I will say that was how I was able
to build my relations and shit with the youth organizations
around the country and start to know the guys while
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they were still in middle school and young in high school,
before the country started knowing who they were. And so
it gave me a lot of opportunities to kind of,
you know, talk to guys about how nice Pennsylvania is
and Central Pennsylvania is and college sports all together.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I mean, I got a couple guys.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
The linebacker at Notre Dame forty four, he's one of
my kids, played in our eighth grade All Star game.
So I got guys all around the country. But under
Armour alloted me the opportunity to do the camps all
over the country and do the game at the All
American Weeks. So Kevin Plank's a really good dude, man
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like super super dope dude if you ask me.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
And just so everyone understands too, you know, under Armour
just now got bought to get back into the NFL.
Meaning if you want to wear under armoured shoes and
during an NFL game before this year, when they didn't
have the rights to be in, you'd have to tape it.
You have to tape over it so that you couldn't
show the label or the brand. Nike is the overall
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apparel provider, so that's.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Usually the default.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Like if you're a guy who doesn't have an apparel deal,
they're gonna give you a pair of Nikes to wear.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
But it's Nike and Adidas and under Armour.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Those are the three shoes that have the rights to
show their logo, you know, when you're on an NFL field.
So I'm not sure how many people know that. It's
kind of a crazy business, know that to be on Yeah, yeah,
I actually.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Even when I was playing, when I was playing, Nike
Reebok Reebok was the main carrier. They were apparel could wear,
but you could wear any other You could wear any
other cleat on the field. You know, you could wear
Nike or you could wear Adidas, and there was no problems.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I didn't know.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Now, if you have the rights, you got to cover
it up. If you don't have the right to be
on the field, I didn't know that. I know I
dealt with that with the gloves and under arm or
you know, within my contract. It was building my contract
that I was making extra money, and that extra money
obviously was going towards me paying fine. So but I
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didn't know about the cleats that now you'd have to
cover them up if they're not you know, if they're
not clear.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I didn't know that if they're if they're not one
of those three, that's that's typically how it works. So
and then then here's the other thing is I remember
having ankle injuries and having to get my ankle spatted,
and I'd gotten into the habit of spatting my shoes
back when I was in college, just because it felt
like a better, more protective way of wearing such a
clean look.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
And it's a clean that's bad at that's spat at at.
Notre Dame is that's that's like, that's iconic, man.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
It's all time.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
But here's the issue is I remember getting flack and
Notre Dame because you'd cover up the adida symbol and
that then upset them. So again, at that point, we're
not being compensated for it, not that that was even
entering my mind, but the fact that you even with
an ankle injury. You know, we're getting flak from an
Adidas rep because you're covering up their logo.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
It's like, well listen, like here's the deal.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
And there was no different guys.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
There was no different in the NFL though, once you
started getting paid, you know, when you were wearing a
Nike cleat and I like to tape a certain portion
of my shoes, so I felt again more stable, more
more easy. And a lot of players go through this.
They'll they'll make sure to reach out to you and
they'll ding you for you know, doing that. If you
do it so many times, they'll find you. They'll take
away some of those moneies. So it's an entirely different
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ball game. Under Armours trying to get back into it
in a big way though, And I think with some
of these guys they've got there, they're gonna be some
hits there.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
There should be some star players out of this. So
we'll see. We'll have to protect this house. That was
one of the best advertising campaigns.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Are they still saying I will protect I don't.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
I don't know. I don't see it quite as much. So, yeah,
that's a little disappointing.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Last under Armour, the last one I saw I think
was Julian Edelman in a Walmart. I couldn it was
Julian Edelman advertising in a Walmart for under Armour. Maybe
it was a different athlete maybe, or maybe he was
doing for a different brand, but I thought it was
Julian Edelman.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
I was like, Oh, that's interesting. I did not think
i'd see that.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
But well, Notre Dame is is under armor, so Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Is Notre Dame is.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
They've got a nice little apparel deal now, so a
lot of that's changed. But yeah, anyway, coming up here
in about six or seven minutes, we've got the One,
the Only, the smooth Operator. That's Pete Prisco. He drops
by for his weekly Tuesday visit. That's next here on FSR.
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Speaker 7 (19:10):
I was trying to figure out which one of you
two was going to come in and out of the breaks.
I couldn't figure that out.
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O Q runs the show when Jonas is out, I just,
you know, I'm just part of the show, you know
what I mean. I'm just.
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You're just You're just part. You're just there for the
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I'm just here, Pete, I just you know, I just
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You're like, hey, Pete, bodyguard, you're the bodyguard.
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I'd like to with my bodyguard.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Hey, you trying to get away from this so quick?
Let this bed ask question. We don't have as much
as we normally have, so I want to get right
into it. And here's the thing is, as you know, LeVar,
Pete's the mayor of Jacksonville.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
So when Dave Wydell comes out, it's just a strong
take on Mason Ram, which I assume Pete's heard.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
I have to get pizza on the whole situation.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
What was his take? I didn't see why Dell?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Do we have a queue up?
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Guys?
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Do you play the sound play the sound.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
I'd love to see Travis Hunter there, Uh not for
the reasons of the Jaguars need a player like Travis
Hunter with the swager. No, no, no, no, one need
guys that can play football. And I'll say this, I
watched the highlight film of Will Campbell today. The LSU
lineman that seems to be able to play almost any position,
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doesn't have the length that they talked about long arms
like I probably had or Ben Coleman or Biselli did,
but he can play football. Mason Graham had two outstanding
games this year, had issues throughout his most important collegiate
football season, and I would never never risk a fifth
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pick overall on a player like Mason Graham. Wow, even
though we could use to help an interior defensive line.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Pete and your thoughts well.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
First off, Dave why Dell had did have long arms.
He was a tall center, but he stood straight up
and got blown in the backfield a bunch, which is
why he never liked me because I used to write
about it. No, I like Dave, Dave's a good dude.
But seriously, look, there are concerns about Mason Graham. I mean,
I'll be honest about it. You look at him. He's
not a big guy. He is on the ground a lot.
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You know. Look, he's got great hands. Does he love
the game? I mean, that's that's another you know, you
hear that from Scott. I don't know if that's true,
but I've heard that, And so there are concerns about him.
And so if you're picking him at number five, you
want a slam dunk pick, and I don't think he's
a slam dunk pick.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
That's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
I would take that. I would take the linebacker from
Georgia before I would take him.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
I'll yeah, he's nice.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Pete, just just looking at how We had a long
conversation this this morning, the first the first segment of
the show, actually, I believe where we were discussing the
Giants bringing in Shador Sanders for a workout, and I
think we both agreed that this was late in the
game to bring in a guy for a private workout,
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and we had our theories as to maybe what it
could be as to why they've.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Brought them in.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Do you have any theories on why the Giants would
bring in Shador Sanders this late? Or should I say
this close to the draft being next week.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
Yeah, here here, here's what it is. And I talked
to some guys in the league about it yesterday. It's
let's see if we could save our jobs evaluation. That's
what this is. That's exactly what it is. Let's see
if we can save our jobs. Because let's be real,
if they play with Jameis Winston and Russell Wilson next year,
they're gone, all of them. James gone, Daviel's probably gone.
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And so if you look at it from that standpoint, hey,
if you draft the young quarterback and you put him
in maybe four or five games in and he plays
well down the stretch, but you don't make the playoffs,
and everybody goes, well, why would we want to make
another change. He's just learned the offense, so why change
it on him? So maybe they all keep their jobs.
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That's what this reeks of to me, and that's what
people in the league have told me. That's what they
see it as as well.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
So they might take Shador Sanders at three, Well.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
Why would you go back and do a reevaluation on
him if you're not going to consider taking him there?
Speaker 3 (23:29):
And again, I mean I tend to agree with you.
I tend to agree like, but I mean that is
that's wow. Wow.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
So this is let me provide some contacts because Mike
Tannenbaum through this South this morning, and his insight is
when this happens so late in the process, either there's
a big disagreement in the building on their evaluation or
they're reacting to new information. And so I throughout the theory,
and there's been a report that there's a thought that
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Shandon Sanders may slide. And so if you found a
team that presumably if it went cam Ward Travis Hunter,
they would be targeting ab Duall Carter, who's the best
edge rusher in this class, and you could trade back
still accomplish what you're talking about, and yet get more
draft capital.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Wouldn't that be the best.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Scenario for the Giants since there's not necessarily a huge
need for them to have Abdua Carter.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
Correct, Yeah, you're evaluating. There's also the possibility you want
to be fly it slid way down and you wanted
to come back in to get them. Brady, there's also
that possibility if you're drafted. So if he drafted Carter
at three and he slid all the way down into
the team late teens in the twenties, and say the
Steelers passed on them, then maybe you'd want to go
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back in and get them there. And so there's a
right that possibility.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
So yeah, that's true.
Speaker 7 (24:52):
But I again, they have a chance to save their
jobs if they draft the young quarterback. They do not
save their jobs.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Okay, okay, but that never works, Pete, Like, I'm not.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
Saying I'm but just open that situation. What are you
doing if you're Joe Shane, what are you doing? You're
gone after the season, no matter what. If you play
with Wilson in Winston, can I can I throw this.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Out there then, because you could make the case that
he's gone no matter what. And it had everything to
do with dating back to their decision not to pick
up the fifth year old Daniel Jones and instead then
end up signing him to a long term deal and
franchise tagging Saquon Barkley, which snowballed into letting Barkley go
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to the Eagles. He has an incredible year, they win
a Super Bowl, and they're right in the division. Like,
I think the writing is already.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
On the wall. The writings on the wall but why
would you do something to try and change the writing
and race it a little bit? I mean, but what
if he ended up being Daniels and he saved their secrets?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, that that's that's always what if, right, Well as
if he were turning the second company of Danny Marino.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
You know, and who.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
Was Yeah, you would have been in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Probably not.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
You have two short of arms and one as long
as Dave's. So here's why I say that this isn't
just a Joe Shane decision. As I think you know
by this point, ownership plays a role in this. Ownership
is going to be a part of that decision where
it's not just like Shane taking the blame for it
like they're They're all.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
A part of it.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
So last year, the ownership wanted a keepsake on Bartley
and Jane didn't and that who went out.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Well, I don't know that they wanted to keep them.
I think they wanted to keep him for the right price,
and then you know it didn't work out with how
they ended.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Up handling it.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
Yeah, but Brady, look, there's there's obvious reasons why you
go back and re evaluate a guy and go meet
with them. Sure, Well, I was gonna ask you you
outline a few of them, and I can get the
one is going back in late, but which you didn't
meagine you've met somebody coming up and the other one
is saving your ass, and that's that's I mean, it's
a distinct possibility you might be able to save your
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own ass if you can't keep.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Draft the kids the white right, and that's assuming that
he even gets a chance to play. I was more
going to point out the fact of how late this
is in the process, Like, I don't think people understand
that this is very atypical for a team to take
a look at a player and a private workout. This
laid into it, right, Like he's had his pro day.
You've had plenty of time at this point. So I mean,
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this is this not abnormal? I mean you've covered the
NFL forever.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
Yes, it's abnormal. It is definitely abnormal. But these so man,
these things get later and later. And look, we had
one lan what yesterday, we had Will Johnson and have
his work out as an injury read and it's getting
later and later in the process. So yeah, but it
is abnormal. You know again, what we're seeing is a
case of quarterback panic. Quarterback panic across the board. Everybody's
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pans to get the guy, and they're all getting overdrafted.
They got overdrafted. They get overdrafted all the time, and
it's going to continue until you saw but you got
to keep trying to hit it. And and that's what
you're saying. And so there's a little bit of panic
in this case as well.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Pete, do you have an issue with Shador Sanders getting
his number retired at Colorado?
Speaker 7 (28:19):
Well, I mean he did win eight games or something,
didn't he I mean, did he didn't?
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Did he do that?
Speaker 7 (28:24):
I mean, what have they retired number? Have they retired
numbers from the team that won the national championship back
in the day. I don't even know that did to
they there?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I mean they are they're the six there, Travis, and
we are five and six. I don't I don't know
if it's private.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
Hunters should have his he should have his number retired. Okays,
better than Cordel store.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Yes, coming out was.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Has more accolades. He's got more accolades than Cordel Stewart
got more.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
He's got more, He's got Sanders has more tension because
he was beyond son. Really, you know, didn't you just
Colorado did win a national championship. And I don't know
if any of those guys' numbers are retired, to be honest.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
The people who are retired are Bobby Anderson, who played
quarterback Bobby and.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
By the way, the bully in the movie One on One.
You got to look it up. I actually had beers
with Bobby Anderson once upon a time.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Go ahead, Okay, that's great.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Rareshaun Salom which Heisman Trow if you wonder, you'd expect
that they got Byron Wizard white halfback, which obviously I
don't know if you weren't alive that long, Pete, but
I wasn't alive for that. Now he was a consensus
all American, and then Joe Romig.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
American.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
Yeah, So I don't think it was Salam. I don't
think was on that national championship team. So I don't
think they have. I think Eric the Enemy was the
running back on that. I don't think was that.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Darian Hagen and the Enemy.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
Yeah, yeah, Alfred Williams and guys like that. I don't
think they have guys from that national championship team. Their
numbers are retired, but meanwhile Sheior Sanders with his eight wins,
is retired. Don't get it, Pete.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
While we're in college, let me ask you about the
Tennessee situation. What's has been a hot button topic that
that's been out there and there's a lot of differing,
you know, opinions on it.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
What what what's your take on it?
Speaker 7 (30:26):
Hey, man, if you're a kid, you try and get
everything you can. I don't think he handled it very well.
I think the father is way too involved. And here's
the other part of it. If you gave him four
million dollars, that's about a million dollars for every touchdown
he threw against a good team last year. So I
think he's I mean, the price is a little high
for that guy, and it's just a it's a bad
look for college Look, look, I love the game of
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college football. I think we're heading in a bad direction here.
I just don't think. I think the fans are going
to be the ones that are going to be cheated
ultimately out of this. It's going to be the same
ten teams that are in the mix every year. If
you have a kid that you watch, like for example,
if there's a kid that you know, when a kid
used to come in a Notre Dame back in the day. Brady,
he's a freshman. He's going to be there for four years,
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probably maybe three, but four or five, it's depending, you know,
the director bowl and everything. And so you fans could go, Okay,
I like this kid. We recruited him, I follow him
in and recruiting, and then he's a sophomore, he plays
a little bit. All my kids like him. And then
he's a junior and he's starting and we really like him.
And look, we're growing together, and there's a you know,
there's none of that anymore. There's none of that anymore.
And I think they're cheating the sport that way.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
And that's an issue.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
That's an issue for the transfer portal though you know,
like I mean, correct, it's not paying these kids, that's
not the issue.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
Yeah, but Brady paying him with the transfer portal is
the issue, if.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
You can correct.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
But here's what I'm saying, Pete.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Here's what I'm saying is if you take away the
transfer portal, you're not gonna have an issue with paying them.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
That is what it is.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
But the transfer portal, whether you're paying them or not,
would allow a kid to kind of move around freely
as many times.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
Okay, I get it. Okay, here's the other part of that.
This kid said, Okay, I played well enough, I want
more money. How about what he doesn't play well enough?
Do you cut his money? Do they do that?
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Yeah, they actually can't do that. And they have done that.
Speaker 7 (32:11):
Yeah, hey they have. It's cut kids money. But then
they transfer, right, But if you can't transfer, then it
becomes the problem. Right, well, no, not really.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Eliminating if they're not playing. What does it matter.
Speaker 7 (32:22):
If you eliminate the transfer portal the way it is
set up right now, then you can still play the
players and within within reason, and it would be fine.
I would agree with you. I'm okay with pay I'm
okay with playing the players. I have no problem with pete.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
It's free agency.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Like, why do we act like the transfer portal, which
should be a set window late in the spring, only
have one and make that your free agency period. That's
what it is, like, Like, why do we act like this?
It doesn't already exist in the NFL, and you can't
replicate that in college?
Speaker 7 (32:50):
Well, I mean yeah, but now they have two periods,
right is in the two or three, right, and.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I'm saying get rid of the one that's that occurs
in December to January. It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 7 (32:59):
But it's all so the sport has become nothing but
the top. It's that's three real, It's gonna be the
big ten in the Sea.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Yeah, but dude, hold on, Arizona State hasn't been good.
They made the playoff this year, SMU made the playoff
this year.
Speaker 7 (33:11):
Boise got a busy sustainable for the next we're.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Gonna find out.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
It was the first year of the expended playoff.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
Peep, Brady, if I ask you, if I ask you certainty,
ten years from now, Ohio State's consistently in the playoff
or Arizona State is consistently in the playoff? Which one
you get to.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Answer, Pete, It's easily Ohio State. But by the way,
that's been the case before the playoff. Before he had nil,
before I had any of it. No offense, Arizona State's
not a blue blood in football.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
There were other ways to pay players back in the
day too.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Let's be real, okay, but like Arizona State apparently never
has so like what do you we tell you?
Speaker 7 (33:49):
Right? They don't pay enof I get it. I understand.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
You're too cheap as an alumnus. You're a booster. You
don't do anything.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
Yeah, I went to the game. I went to the game.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Yeah that's what you did. You said, raw, Raw. You
probably the team half the time anyway.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
Knowing you No, well I was, I was. I't know.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
You're like my dad. Just like my dad.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
You guys are all pessimists. Every every time something bad happens,
all they're gonna lose. They're here we go again. Like
you guys have those attitudes. That's your that's your generation.
Speaker 7 (34:15):
I didn't like fourth and thirteen blitz. I can say that.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah, but that's also because you're a cat guy. You know,
if you're a dog guy, you blitz in those situations.
Speaker 7 (34:24):
No, they showed blitz, call time out, and then they
did the same exact blits that I didn't like. So
that was I don't mind blitzing, but not in that situation.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Cat guy, I'm just saying, you're not a dog guy.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
I am.
Speaker 7 (34:34):
I am a cat guy. You know, like dogs end
up in the backyard and make you smell like skunk.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Wow, you just got bullied.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
You just got you just got bullied and owned back
Q and you want to come my way. I just
sat here and listen to y'all and you want to
bring that my weight like that. You know your random
shots at me they're not well received, Pete, like they're
they're not. I'm not that is not okay.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
I'm waiting, you know, wait for I'm waiting for give
me one tan concept, give me one can comment. I
know it's coming. I'm just waiting for it.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
He and I like your base, tad, buddy.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I think it fits you well if it's the sicilian
uh you know roots, you know you're good.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
You have you You have a unique tan complexion, is
all I will say. And you know what it worked
for you, Bete.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
You got the shoulders and and you got your your
your your you know your complexion. You're good. I've never
really hated on you. You just like hating on me.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
And by the way, you do know that you notice
that Jonas Knox isn't here. You could be going after
Jonas right now versus like really putting your your attentions
to me.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
You know, I'm just hiding bystanding.
Speaker 7 (35:41):
It is amazing he took time off.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Isn't this like a, can you give Jonas some melotonin? Bete?
Can you pass him some melotone in his skin?
Speaker 3 (35:50):
For he has none? Yeah, you got enough to donate
to him? He definitely.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
He looks like.
Speaker 7 (35:59):
Is he some work somewhere? I hope.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Actually, I'm not. Pet We got to take a break.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
But I'm not going to divulge what exactly he is
doing because I think I know we're going to talk
about it in the next segment.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
We've got to finish up.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Okay, all right, guys, Hey, Pete, I have a good one.
Speaker 7 (36:17):
You know, I love you.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
I don't ever think i'd take anything personal Pete. I do,
but I don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
I don't get love Pete.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
No, why A You're gonna take me in Pete's moment? God, dang,
you let me and Pete I have a moment. All right, Well,
we do love you, though, I think I speak for
both of us.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
It's just the smooth operator, the one and only Pete
Prisco joins us every Tuesday, lebar. I'm excited talking to
him next Tuesday about the draft. That's gonna be a
ton of fun. Good, It's going to be good.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
That's right. Well, coming up next.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Here on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. I
want to tell you where the one Jonas knocks is,
and it could be it could be a painful place.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
That's right, Happy birthday, Lee, thirty six years young, holding
it down. Probably gonna get absolutely tanked after the show.
Absolutely good for you.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
By the way, it's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
Pretty Quinn LeVar Aaronson here.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Jonas Knox has been off, which by the way, we're
not gonna say where he's at, but I feel like
he's enjoying some baseball based on the final in last
night's Padres Cubs game. Padre's taking care of business. Best
record in the MLB, by the way, both both teams,
surprisingly the Cubs at the top of the NL Central,
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but they've got a couple more games then in San
Diego taking on the Brenando Tatis with a couple of jacks.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Last night the.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Three RBIs as well, So.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Hopefully Jonas is enjoying himself but no one's gonna enjoy
himself more than Lee, especially when it's his birthday.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Especially with some of these leftovers, Lee take it away.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
These might smell a little funk incredible, but they're still good.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Time to find out what's lack.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
It's Lee's lap, Jovers.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (38:25):
I feel like a bad friend because I I didn't
check in on Jonas yesterday.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
I got woken up very rudely.
Speaker 8 (38:32):
By an emergency alert, as did a lot of people
out here in southern California.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
There was a five point two earthquake.
Speaker 8 (38:40):
Depending on who you asked, five point two could be
a little higher, and you know, everyone likes to make
a big funny duddy about it. Apparently all the you know,
the elephants out at the San Diego Zoo got in
a circle, and everyone's very interested in that.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I thought that was pretty cool.
Speaker 8 (38:55):
I don't know, did you guys see all this with
the earthquake?
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Nature? Baby Nature?
Speaker 3 (39:00):
I mean.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
We were looking at one of the chandeliers and the shanda.
I didn't feel the earthquake, but the chandelier was moving,
which was interesting.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
The Humble Bragg by the way, well what shadows you know? Oh,
come on, man, no big deal.
Speaker 8 (39:16):
I just feel for all the liquor stores that lost,
you know, a bottle or two out there.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
You know, poor went out from the homies guys, the
light hanging from the ceiling. Apologies.
Speaker 8 (39:26):
Also things that dropped yesterday, no thanks to the earthquake.
The trophy for the National Championship. Thanks to mister Vice
President jd. Vance Alum of Ohio State didn't realize that
the trophy came in two pieces, decided to break it
in half and.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Drop it on the ground.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
First off, did you guys know it was two pieces?
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
I didn't know it was two pieces.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Yeah, I'm not sure why it is.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
I had always seen it with the I had always
wondered what was going on.
Speaker 8 (39:53):
I thought maybe that they just were taking time to
engrave the bottom half because I'd always seen it with
without the plaque on the bottom, and I was wondering
what that was about.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
But yeah, apparently they just separate.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
By the way, Jack Swerg got one hell of a
shout out. He will never forget that the rest of
his life. The way President Trump talked about his game
winning plays for Ohio State so pretty cool. It was
pretty cool to see for that young man. Yeah, yeah,
that's what we do. We still show saw that
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Speaker 1 (00:34):
I'm on bar represent for the West Coast. Now you're
a West Coast. You can't claim the East Coast anymore.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I'm dude, though you try to.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
But here's the problem is that you don't want to
admit it. You don't want to go back to the
East Coast. That cool weather.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
You can't face it. Man.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
But there's some warm weather on the East Coast, you know.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah there is, but you're down. You don't claim South Florida.
You don't claim that Carolina. I claim South Florida.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
I do not claim claim Virginia Beach. I do claim Carolina.
I do claim Virginia Beach. I do because that's where
our our faithful, faithful fans are. There was a time
where Carolina people had to rock with us because they
didn't have a team.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So yeah, well here's here's the reality, folks. Is LeVar
may claim you he's sure as hell's not living back there.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
What's gonna be cold?
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Okay, that's very true. I mean I love to State
College and Penn State ors. I'm really I'm really about
the pannicking and get get a crib there, I really am.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Or you should know or something. There's a lot easier
commute for you. By the way, this is two pros
and a cup of Joe. That's LeVar Arrington. I'm Brady
Quinn no Jonas Knox.
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know how things gonna go. When Lee takes over a
segment with Todd, But that was fine. You know, I
don't think we, you know, did anything too bad.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Could be better, could be worse.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yes, that's your modeling lifely could be better, could be worse.
Maybe the way in which we've got the NFL Draft
starting to shake out last night, the draft odds have
been updated and it seems like the top five are set.
Now we don't know if these five players will go
to the teams that currently stand in these spots. It
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seems like Tennessee's gonna take cam Ward to number one.
That's what the betting odds are telling us. He's a
heavy favorite. It seems like the betting odds are telling
us that Cleveland's going to take Travis Hunter number two.
Now where things get interesting, and we talked about earlier today,
Shador Sanders is doing a private workout for the New
York Giants. And the reason why that's interesting is not
necessarily because they're doing the workout, the timing of it.
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The draft is nine days away. Typically most of these
things are put to bed by now. You have a
pretty good idea if you're a team of who you
are taking. You've done the visits, you've done a workout.
The Hayes and the barn That's what stands out about
how late this workout is with shad Or Sanders, leading
to a thought that maybe the Giants aren't going to
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stay at number three. But the odds on favorite to
go three is Abdul Carter. And then in the recent days,
Will Campbell is the odds on favorite to go number four.
New England's currently drafting there, and then number five. This
came out last night. Mason Graham, the defensive tackle of
the University of Michigan. He is the odds on favorite
to go at five, potentially to Jacksonville. Now that's somewhat newsworthy.
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What was more newsworthy was what Dave Wydell, a former
offensive lineman who was also a long snapper in the league,
had to say about Mason Graham, which you got to
hear it.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
I'd love to see Travis Hunter there not one of
the reasons of the Jaguars need a player like Travis
Hunter with the swag or no, no, no, no, one
of the guys that can play football. And I'll say this,
I watched the highlight film of Will Campbell today, the
LSU lineman that seems to be able to play almost
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any position. Doesn't have the length that they talk about
long arms like I probably had or Ben Coleman or
Beselli did, but he can play football. Mason Graham had
two outstanding games this year, had issues throughout his most
important collegiate football season, and I would never never risk
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a fifth pick overall on a player like Mason Graham,
even though we could use the help an interior defensive line.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
So a pretty strong take. Now, I think you got
to take everything with a great assault. A lot of
people have opinions, they have strong opinions. I got to
watch Mason Graham over the course of his career, and
I think the hard thing with defensive tackles is if
you're reading the box score, you're going to look for
the production, probably similar to a guy like damikin Sue right,
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Tommy Harris, I'm sure there's some guys that stand out
to you in your day, and it's really difficult to
compare to that one because those guys were all all timers.
I mean, some of the greatest ever do it at
a defensive tackle position. But also because you know, it
was hard because who else they played with sometimes to
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be able to truly focus on them, you know, Mason
Graham was a part of a defensive front for Michigan
that you know, really the focus and the center point
was Mason Graham. It was the interior of that defensive
line for Michigan, and it makes things a little bit harder.
Teams ran a lot of outside zone versus them. I
mean they did that oftentimes versus Ohio State did that
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a lot versus them, and by the way, wasn't overlly
successful at doing it this past year, but in part
doing it to try to run away way from a
guy like Mason Graham who's at times been a game wrecker.
So you know, everyone's got their own opinion on these players.
I do find that interesting though, where you get a
guy who kind of takes a strong take on it,
passionate about it, who I don't know outside of a
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highlight film, like how much he's really washed. And so
that's what always makes me kind of go all right,
like the interesting take, great take for radio, But how much.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Do we really look into that, LeVar. I mean.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Mason Graham in particular, I've seen him since he was
in high school. He's been special since he was at
Servite and that continued on at Michigan. I mean he
was one of the catalystics of the team when they
won the national title. I mean he's been starting. I'm
pretty certain since his freshman year, like, he's been pretty
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special as a player. He does, he does. He project
out to be a top ten pick, a top five
pick in the NFL draft.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, yeah, he does.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
He's six 'y three, he's three twenty, and he understands
how to defeat blockers.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
He plays with great leverage.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
When you talk about you know, a guy who is
athletic enough to get across the face and get into
their gap and in a gap scheme, and somebody who's
able to take on double teams, split double teams, whn't
necessary all the tools that you want to see in
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a defensive tackle that that you know comes to the
table with a high grade.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Mason Graham has that.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
And you look at last year, you know, the Rams
with their rookies of the year, you know, and and
how their defensive front was changed by a first.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
And Fisk is who I'm talking about.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
I look at I look at Mason, and I say
he's a little different than Fisk in some regards, but
in others he may have powers and strengths that Fisk
don't doesn't bring to the table. I mean, I don't
think it was an accurate and accurate readout of Mason Graham.
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In fact, I thought it was inaccurate. Honestly, I thought
it was kind of like it was shooting shooting shade,
and I thought he started off with shooting shade and
kind of finished with shooting shade, like he the only
person he didn't shade was was the lineman out of LSU,
and he even shaded him on the length of his arms,
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but said nonetheless, he can play ball.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
But he shaded Travis Hunter. Like please, bro, like you're
talking about Jacksonville, right, You're about the Jags.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
This is a this has been an irrelevant team for
quite some time, and a guy like Travis Hunter helped.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Your team immediately. A guy like Mason Graham on your roster.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Believe you me, you will eat those words if they
draft Mason Graham because he's a guy that can acclimate
and integrate into the pro game. I think he will
do it with with a good level of success. So
I think that's an inaccurate readout. Q. I don't want
to get into like, like you know, kind of taking
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shots at Buddy for what he had to say, but
it kind of came across as kind of a lazy take,
you know, an uninformed take on on Mason Graham.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Yeah, and look, the.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Reality is it's a need for the Jacksonville Jaguars. If
they went with defensive tackle, you could see that making
some sense for them. And he's one of the best
in this draft class. Uh So that's where it lines up.
A few other notes on the draft, by the way,
you Jay Glazer, Joe Douglas, Jenny Taft all for Fox
Sports Radio starting eight pm Eastern Time Thursday next week
(10:12):
right here on Fox Sports Radio, you guys are going
to be covering the first round of the draft, given
predictions on picks and insights into those picks. A very
well rounded group before, right, Jay Glaizer, the insider, you're
the former player. You got Joe Douglas, former general manager,
and then Jenny Taft, who's got a lot of stories,
has followed these guys throughout their college career, So a
lot of insight as far as the.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Background of these young men.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
But a lot of these young men and I'm not
sure how many people know this, right, You're getting in
the league, and it's the first time you really get
to sign your a big apparel deal. You know, typically,
you know you wore whatever you know you wore when
you went to college. Nowadays it's a bit different, but
most apparel companies don't really inc up the prospects until
they become a draft prospect. You know, that's where more
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the money's at. And so under Armour has really taken
a big swiming. They're back in the NFL shoe game.
They've back, you know, given the rights to be a
part of that, and obviously the gloves as well. And
they've also kind of dipped into a number of players
who are looking at being first round picks. Cam Ward,
for example, at quarterback, slated to give me the number
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one overall pick, Luther Burden, the third wide receiver out
of missou really talented player, nick Emon Worri, the safety
I believe out of South Carolina, Matthew Golden, the blazing
fast receiver out of Texas, and then the offensive lineman
Tyler Booker out of Alabama. All projective your first round picks,
all ink their deal with under Armour. And this is
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like near and dear to my heart because when I
was coming out in the draft, it was between Nike
and under Armour, and honestly, at the time, like I
wanted to go with under Armour, like there was something
about just the brand.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Kevin Plank talk with a lot of people with their group.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
The biggest issue was is I could not find a
pair of shoes at that time that like would allow
allowed me to feel comfortable like I just I'd want Adidas.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
In college, that was what Notre Dame had at the time.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I had Nike before that, Nike obviously growing up with
the exception of my Converse basketball shoes when I first
started playing the Latrell Spree Wells to this day I
still hold near and dear.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
To my heart.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
But they just didn't have a cleat that I could
even use.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
In fact, when I was trying different cleats and trying
to work out, and then I ended up like resorting
to like an offensive lineman cleat because of the ankle
protection and gave me, but just the support and the comfort,
it was like they really didn't have a speed cleat
that was comfortable, And so that ultimately ended up being
the difference in where I went to Nike as opposed
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to going to under Armour. But I can always look
back on that and thought if it was now, you know,
given how far they've come since, then be a different story.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Now you were an under Armour guy, I'm not mistaken.
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I was the first one to leave Nike.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
They say Ray, They'll say ray, But if I'd have
got the gold jacket, they would have, they would have
probably stayed it a little bit more. Plus it's a
better story. He's a raven, you know, raven legend and
greatest all time. But I was the first one. I
was actually the first dude to leave Nike to go
with under Armour. And I did wear the cleats when
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the bottles were still popping off and and different things
like that. But a lot of love for Kevin playing,
a lot of love for you know, my time working
with under Armour. I had an opportunity to develop talent,
you know, through through youth youth football. Did an eighth
grade game with them, like did the under Armour under
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the All American game with them for Dion with coach when.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
You were paying some of the kids on the tables
that were you're doing.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
I do not know of anything that you're speaking of
right now, I can confirm nor deny any type of
inappropriate wrong doings with any of the young guys there,
but I will say that was how I was able
to build my relations and shit with the youth organizations
around the country and start to know the guys while
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they were still in middle school and young in high school,
before the country started knowing who they were. And so
it gave me a lot of opportunities to kind of,
you know, talk to guys about how nice Pennsylvania is
and Central Pennsylvania is and college sports all together.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I mean, I got a couple guys.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
The linebacker at Notre Dame forty four, he's one of
my kids, played in our eighth grade All Star game.
So I got guys all around the country. But under
Armour alloted me the opportunity to do the camps all
over the country and do the game at the All
American Weeks. So Kevin Plank's a really good dude, man
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like super super dope dude if you ask me.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
And just so everyone understands too, you know, under Armour
just now got bought to get back into the NFL.
Meaning if you want to wear under armoured shoes and
during an NFL game before this year, when they didn't
have the rights to be in, you'd have to tape it.
You have to tape over it so that you couldn't
show the label or the brand. Nike is the overall
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apparel provider, so that's.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Usually the default.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Like if you're a guy who doesn't have an apparel deal,
they're gonna give you a pair of Nikes to wear.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
But it's Nike and Adidas and under Armour.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Those are the three shoes that have the rights to
show their logo, you know, when you're on an NFL field.
So I'm not sure how many people know that. It's
kind of a crazy business, know that to be on Yeah, yeah,
I actually.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Even when I was playing, when I was playing, Nike
Reebok Reebok was the main carrier. They were apparel could wear,
but you could wear any other You could wear any
other cleat on the field. You know, you could wear
Nike or you could wear Adidas, and there was no problems.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I didn't know.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Now, if you have the rights, you got to cover
it up. If you don't have the right to be
on the field, I didn't know that. I know I
dealt with that with the gloves and under arm or
you know, within my contract. It was building my contract
that I was making extra money, and that extra money
obviously was going towards me paying fine. So but I
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didn't know about the cleats that now you'd have to
cover them up if they're not you know, if they're
not clear.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I didn't know that if they're if they're not one
of those three, that's that's typically how it works. So
and then then here's the other thing is I remember
having ankle injuries and having to get my ankle spatted,
and I'd gotten into the habit of spatting my shoes
back when I was in college, just because it felt
like a better, more protective way of wearing such a
clean look.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
And it's a clean that's bad at that's spat at at.
Notre Dame is that's that's like, that's iconic, man.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
It's all time.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
But here's the issue is I remember getting flack and
Notre Dame because you'd cover up the adida symbol and
that then upset them. So again, at that point, we're
not being compensated for it, not that that was even
entering my mind, but the fact that you even with
an ankle injury. You know, we're getting flak from an
Adidas rep because you're covering up their logo.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
It's like, well listen, like here's the deal.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
And there was no different guys.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
There was no different in the NFL though, once you
started getting paid, you know, when you were wearing a
Nike cleat and I like to tape a certain portion
of my shoes, so I felt again more stable, more
more easy. And a lot of players go through this.
They'll they'll make sure to reach out to you and
they'll ding you for you know, doing that. If you
do it so many times, they'll find you. They'll take
away some of those moneies. So it's an entirely different
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ball game. Under Armours trying to get back into it
in a big way though, And I think with some
of these guys they've got there, they're gonna be some
hits there.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
There should be some star players out of this. So
we'll see. We'll have to protect this house. That was
one of the best advertising campaigns.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Are they still saying I will protect I don't.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
I don't know. I don't see it quite as much. So, yeah,
that's a little disappointing.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Last under Armour, the last one I saw I think
was Julian Edelman in a Walmart. I couldn it was
Julian Edelman advertising in a Walmart for under Armour. Maybe
it was a different athlete maybe, or maybe he was
doing for a different brand, but I thought it was
Julian Edelman.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
I was like, Oh, that's interesting. I did not think
i'd see that.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
But well, Notre Dame is is under armor, so Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Is Notre Dame is.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
They've got a nice little apparel deal now, so a
lot of that's changed. But yeah, anyway, coming up here
in about six or seven minutes, we've got the One,
the Only, the smooth Operator. That's Pete Prisco. He drops
by for his weekly Tuesday visit. That's next here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Oh yeah, when you hear that music, you know exactly
who's coming on next. It's senior NFL columnist for CBS
Sports and an analyst for CBS Sports HQ, The One
only Pete Prisco, Pete, how are we doing this morning?
Speaker 7 (19:10):
I was trying to figure out which one of you
two was going to come in and out of the breaks.
I couldn't figure that out.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
O Q runs the show when Jonas is out, I just,
you know, I'm just part of the show, you know
what I mean. I'm just.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
You're just You're just part. You're just there for the
check side kick.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
I'm just here, Pete, I just you know, I just
watch everybody's back. You know, that's all chaperone.
Speaker 7 (19:33):
You're like, hey, Pete, bodyguard, you're the bodyguard.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
I'd like to with my bodyguard.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Hey, you trying to get away from this so quick?
Let this bed ask question. We don't have as much
as we normally have, so I want to get right
into it. And here's the thing is, as you know, LeVar,
Pete's the mayor of Jacksonville.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
So when Dave Wydell comes out, it's just a strong
take on Mason Ram, which I assume Pete's heard.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
I have to get pizza on the whole situation.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
What was his take? I didn't see why Dell?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Do we have a queue up?
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Guys?
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Do you play the sound play the sound.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
I'd love to see Travis Hunter there, Uh not for
the reasons of the Jaguars need a player like Travis
Hunter with the swager. No, no, no, no, one need
guys that can play football. And I'll say this, I
watched the highlight film of Will Campbell today. The LSU
lineman that seems to be able to play almost any position,
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doesn't have the length that they talked about long arms
like I probably had or Ben Coleman or Biselli did,
but he can play football. Mason Graham had two outstanding
games this year, had issues throughout his most important collegiate
football season, and I would never never risk a fifth
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pick overall on a player like Mason Graham. Wow, even
though we could use to help an interior defensive line.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Pete and your thoughts well.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
First off, Dave why Dell had did have long arms.
He was a tall center, but he stood straight up
and got blown in the backfield a bunch, which is
why he never liked me because I used to write
about it. No, I like Dave, Dave's a good dude.
But seriously, look, there are concerns about Mason Graham. I mean,
I'll be honest about it. You look at him. He's
not a big guy. He is on the ground a lot.
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You know. Look, he's got great hands. Does he love
the game? I mean, that's that's another you know, you
hear that from Scott. I don't know if that's true,
but I've heard that, And so there are concerns about him.
And so if you're picking him at number five, you
want a slam dunk pick, and I don't think he's
a slam dunk pick.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
That's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
I would take that. I would take the linebacker from
Georgia before I would take him.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
I'll yeah, he's nice.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Pete, just just looking at how We had a long
conversation this this morning, the first the first segment of
the show, actually, I believe where we were discussing the
Giants bringing in Shador Sanders for a workout, and I
think we both agreed that this was late in the
game to bring in a guy for a private workout,
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and we had our theories as to maybe what it
could be as to why they've.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Brought them in.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Do you have any theories on why the Giants would
bring in Shador Sanders this late? Or should I say
this close to the draft being next week.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
Yeah, here here, here's what it is. And I talked
to some guys in the league about it yesterday. It's
let's see if we could save our jobs evaluation. That's
what this is. That's exactly what it is. Let's see
if we can save our jobs. Because let's be real,
if they play with Jameis Winston and Russell Wilson next year,
they're gone, all of them. James gone, Daviel's probably gone.
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And so if you look at it from that standpoint, hey,
if you draft the young quarterback and you put him
in maybe four or five games in and he plays
well down the stretch, but you don't make the playoffs,
and everybody goes, well, why would we want to make
another change. He's just learned the offense, so why change
it on him? So maybe they all keep their jobs.
(23:16):
That's what this reeks of to me, and that's what
people in the league have told me. That's what they
see it as as well.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
So they might take Shador Sanders at three, Well.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
Why would you go back and do a reevaluation on
him if you're not going to consider taking him there?
Speaker 3 (23:29):
And again, I mean I tend to agree with you.
I tend to agree like, but I mean that is
that's wow. Wow.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
So this is let me provide some contacts because Mike
Tannenbaum through this South this morning, and his insight is
when this happens so late in the process, either there's
a big disagreement in the building on their evaluation or
they're reacting to new information. And so I throughout the theory,
and there's been a report that there's a thought that
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Shandon Sanders may slide. And so if you found a
team that presumably if it went cam Ward Travis Hunter,
they would be targeting ab Duall Carter, who's the best
edge rusher in this class, and you could trade back
still accomplish what you're talking about, and yet get more
draft capital.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Wouldn't that be the best.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Scenario for the Giants since there's not necessarily a huge
need for them to have Abdua Carter.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
Correct, Yeah, you're evaluating. There's also the possibility you want
to be fly it slid way down and you wanted
to come back in to get them. Brady, there's also
that possibility if you're drafted. So if he drafted Carter
at three and he slid all the way down into
the team late teens in the twenties, and say the
Steelers passed on them, then maybe you'd want to go
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back in and get them there. And so there's a
right that possibility.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
So yeah, that's true.
Speaker 7 (24:52):
But I again, they have a chance to save their
jobs if they draft the young quarterback. They do not
save their jobs.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Okay, okay, but that never works, Pete, Like, I'm not.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
Saying I'm but just open that situation. What are you
doing if you're Joe Shane, what are you doing? You're
gone after the season, no matter what. If you play
with Wilson in Winston, can I can I throw this.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Out there then, because you could make the case that
he's gone no matter what. And it had everything to
do with dating back to their decision not to pick
up the fifth year old Daniel Jones and instead then
end up signing him to a long term deal and
franchise tagging Saquon Barkley, which snowballed into letting Barkley go
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to the Eagles. He has an incredible year, they win
a Super Bowl, and they're right in the division. Like,
I think the writing is already.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
On the wall. The writings on the wall but why
would you do something to try and change the writing
and race it a little bit? I mean, but what
if he ended up being Daniels and he saved their secrets?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, that that's that's always what if, right, Well as
if he were turning the second company of Danny Marino.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
You know, and who.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
Was Yeah, you would have been in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Probably not.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
You have two short of arms and one as long
as Dave's. So here's why I say that this isn't
just a Joe Shane decision. As I think you know
by this point, ownership plays a role in this. Ownership
is going to be a part of that decision where
it's not just like Shane taking the blame for it
like they're They're all.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
A part of it.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
So last year, the ownership wanted a keepsake on Bartley
and Jane didn't and that who went out.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Well, I don't know that they wanted to keep them.
I think they wanted to keep him for the right price,
and then you know it didn't work out with how
they ended.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Up handling it.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
Yeah, but Brady, look, there's there's obvious reasons why you
go back and re evaluate a guy and go meet
with them. Sure, Well, I was gonna ask you you
outline a few of them, and I can get the
one is going back in late, but which you didn't
meagine you've met somebody coming up and the other one
is saving your ass, and that's that's I mean, it's
a distinct possibility you might be able to save your
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own ass if you can't keep.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Draft the kids the white right, and that's assuming that
he even gets a chance to play. I was more
going to point out the fact of how late this
is in the process, Like, I don't think people understand
that this is very atypical for a team to take
a look at a player and a private workout. This
laid into it, right, Like he's had his pro day.
You've had plenty of time at this point. So I mean,
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this is this not abnormal? I mean you've covered the
NFL forever.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
Yes, it's abnormal. It is definitely abnormal. But these so man,
these things get later and later. And look, we had
one lan what yesterday, we had Will Johnson and have
his work out as an injury read and it's getting
later and later in the process. So yeah, but it
is abnormal. You know again, what we're seeing is a
case of quarterback panic. Quarterback panic across the board. Everybody's
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pans to get the guy, and they're all getting overdrafted.
They got overdrafted. They get overdrafted all the time, and
it's going to continue until you saw but you got
to keep trying to hit it. And and that's what
you're saying. And so there's a little bit of panic
in this case as well.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Pete, do you have an issue with Shador Sanders getting
his number retired at Colorado?
Speaker 7 (28:19):
Well, I mean he did win eight games or something,
didn't he I mean, did he didn't?
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Did he do that?
Speaker 7 (28:24):
I mean, what have they retired number? Have they retired
numbers from the team that won the national championship back
in the day. I don't even know that did to
they there?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I mean they are they're the six there, Travis, and
we are five and six. I don't I don't know
if it's private.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
Hunters should have his he should have his number retired. Okays,
better than Cordel store.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Yes, coming out was.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Has more accolades. He's got more accolades than Cordel Stewart
got more.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
He's got more, He's got Sanders has more tension because
he was beyond son. Really, you know, didn't you just
Colorado did win a national championship. And I don't know
if any of those guys' numbers are retired, to be honest.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
The people who are retired are Bobby Anderson, who played
quarterback Bobby and.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
By the way, the bully in the movie One on One.
You got to look it up. I actually had beers
with Bobby Anderson once upon a time.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Go ahead, Okay, that's great.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Rareshaun Salom which Heisman Trow if you wonder, you'd expect
that they got Byron Wizard white halfback, which obviously I
don't know if you weren't alive that long, Pete, but
I wasn't alive for that. Now he was a consensus
all American, and then Joe Romig.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
American.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
Yeah, So I don't think it was Salam. I don't
think was on that national championship team. So I don't
think they have. I think Eric the Enemy was the
running back on that. I don't think was that.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Darian Hagen and the Enemy.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
Yeah, yeah, Alfred Williams and guys like that. I don't
think they have guys from that national championship team. Their
numbers are retired, but meanwhile Sheior Sanders with his eight wins,
is retired. Don't get it, Pete.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
While we're in college, let me ask you about the
Tennessee situation. What's has been a hot button topic that
that's been out there and there's a lot of differing,
you know, opinions on it.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
What what what's your take on it?
Speaker 7 (30:26):
Hey, man, if you're a kid, you try and get
everything you can. I don't think he handled it very well.
I think the father is way too involved. And here's
the other part of it. If you gave him four
million dollars, that's about a million dollars for every touchdown
he threw against a good team last year. So I
think he's I mean, the price is a little high
for that guy, and it's just a it's a bad
look for college Look, look, I love the game of
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college football. I think we're heading in a bad direction here.
I just don't think. I think the fans are going
to be the ones that are going to be cheated
ultimately out of this. It's going to be the same
ten teams that are in the mix every year. If
you have a kid that you watch, like for example,
if there's a kid that you know, when a kid
used to come in a Notre Dame back in the day. Brady,
he's a freshman. He's going to be there for four years,
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probably maybe three, but four or five, it's depending, you know,
the director bowl and everything. And so you fans could go, Okay,
I like this kid. We recruited him, I follow him
in and recruiting, and then he's a sophomore, he plays
a little bit. All my kids like him. And then
he's a junior and he's starting and we really like him.
And look, we're growing together, and there's a you know,
there's none of that anymore. There's none of that anymore.
And I think they're cheating the sport that way.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
And that's an issue.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
That's an issue for the transfer portal though you know,
like I mean, correct, it's not paying these kids, that's
not the issue.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
Yeah, but Brady paying him with the transfer portal is
the issue, if.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
You can correct.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
But here's what I'm saying, Pete.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Here's what I'm saying is if you take away the
transfer portal, you're not gonna have an issue with paying them.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
That is what it is.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
But the transfer portal, whether you're paying them or not,
would allow a kid to kind of move around freely
as many times.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
Okay, I get it. Okay, here's the other part of that.
This kid said, Okay, I played well enough, I want
more money. How about what he doesn't play well enough?
Do you cut his money? Do they do that?
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Yeah, they actually can't do that. And they have done that.
Speaker 7 (32:11):
Yeah, hey they have. It's cut kids money. But then
they transfer, right, But if you can't transfer, then it
becomes the problem. Right, well, no, not really.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Eliminating if they're not playing. What does it matter.
Speaker 7 (32:22):
If you eliminate the transfer portal the way it is
set up right now, then you can still play the
players and within within reason, and it would be fine.
I would agree with you. I'm okay with pay I'm
okay with playing the players. I have no problem with pete.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
It's free agency.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Like, why do we act like the transfer portal, which
should be a set window late in the spring, only
have one and make that your free agency period. That's
what it is, like, Like, why do we act like this?
It doesn't already exist in the NFL, and you can't
replicate that in college?
Speaker 7 (32:50):
Well, I mean yeah, but now they have two periods,
right is in the two or three, right, and.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I'm saying get rid of the one that's that occurs
in December to January. It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 7 (32:59):
But it's all so the sport has become nothing but
the top. It's that's three real, It's gonna be the
big ten in the Sea.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Yeah, but dude, hold on, Arizona State hasn't been good.
They made the playoff this year, SMU made the playoff
this year.
Speaker 7 (33:11):
Boise got a busy sustainable for the next we're.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Gonna find out.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
It was the first year of the expended playoff.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
Peep, Brady, if I ask you, if I ask you certainty,
ten years from now, Ohio State's consistently in the playoff
or Arizona State is consistently in the playoff? Which one
you get to.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Answer, Pete, It's easily Ohio State. But by the way,
that's been the case before the playoff. Before he had nil,
before I had any of it. No offense, Arizona State's
not a blue blood in football.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
There were other ways to pay players back in the
day too.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Let's be real, okay, but like Arizona State apparently never
has so like what do you we tell you?
Speaker 7 (33:49):
Right? They don't pay enof I get it. I understand.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
You're too cheap as an alumnus. You're a booster. You
don't do anything.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
Yeah, I went to the game. I went to the game.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Yeah that's what you did. You said, raw, Raw. You
probably the team half the time anyway.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
Knowing you No, well I was, I was. I't know.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
You're like my dad. Just like my dad.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
You guys are all pessimists. Every every time something bad happens,
all they're gonna lose. They're here we go again. Like
you guys have those attitudes. That's your that's your generation.
Speaker 7 (34:15):
I didn't like fourth and thirteen blitz. I can say that.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah, but that's also because you're a cat guy. You know,
if you're a dog guy, you blitz in those situations.
Speaker 7 (34:24):
No, they showed blitz, call time out, and then they
did the same exact blits that I didn't like. So
that was I don't mind blitzing, but not in that situation.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Cat guy, I'm just saying, you're not a dog guy.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
I am.
Speaker 7 (34:34):
I am a cat guy. You know, like dogs end
up in the backyard and make you smell like skunk.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Wow, you just got bullied.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
You just got you just got bullied and owned back
Q and you want to come my way. I just
sat here and listen to y'all and you want to
bring that my weight like that. You know your random
shots at me they're not well received, Pete, like they're
they're not. I'm not that is not okay.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
I'm waiting, you know, wait for I'm waiting for give
me one tan concept, give me one can comment. I
know it's coming. I'm just waiting for it.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
He and I like your base, tad, buddy.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I think it fits you well if it's the sicilian
uh you know roots, you know you're good.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
You have you You have a unique tan complexion, is
all I will say. And you know what it worked
for you, Bete.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
You got the shoulders and and you got your your
your your you know your complexion. You're good. I've never
really hated on you. You just like hating on me.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
And by the way, you do know that you notice
that Jonas Knox isn't here. You could be going after
Jonas right now versus like really putting your your attentions
to me.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
You know, I'm just hiding bystanding.
Speaker 7 (35:41):
It is amazing he took time off.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Isn't this like a, can you give Jonas some melotonin? Bete?
Can you pass him some melotone in his skin?
Speaker 3 (35:50):
For he has none? Yeah, you got enough to donate
to him? He definitely.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
He looks like.
Speaker 7 (35:59):
Is he some work somewhere? I hope.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Actually, I'm not. Pet We got to take a break.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
But I'm not going to divulge what exactly he is
doing because I think I know we're going to talk
about it in the next segment.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
We've got to finish up.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Okay, all right, guys, Hey, Pete, I have a good one.
Speaker 7 (36:17):
You know, I love you.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
I don't ever think i'd take anything personal Pete. I do,
but I don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
I don't get love Pete.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
No, why A You're gonna take me in Pete's moment? God, dang,
you let me and Pete I have a moment. All right, Well,
we do love you, though, I think I speak for
both of us.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
It's just the smooth operator, the one and only Pete
Prisco joins us every Tuesday, lebar. I'm excited talking to
him next Tuesday about the draft. That's gonna be a
ton of fun. Good, It's going to be good.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
That's right. Well, coming up next.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Here on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. I
want to tell you where the one Jonas knocks is,
and it could be it could be a painful place.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
That's right, Happy birthday, Lee, thirty six years young, holding
it down. Probably gonna get absolutely tanked after the show.
Absolutely good for you.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
By the way, it's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
Pretty Quinn LeVar Aaronson here.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Jonas Knox has been off, which by the way, we're
not gonna say where he's at, but I feel like
he's enjoying some baseball based on the final in last
night's Padres Cubs game. Padre's taking care of business. Best
record in the MLB, by the way, both both teams,
surprisingly the Cubs at the top of the NL Central,
(37:52):
but they've got a couple more games then in San
Diego taking on the Brenando Tatis with a couple of jacks.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Last night the.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Three RBIs as well, So.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Hopefully Jonas is enjoying himself but no one's gonna enjoy
himself more than Lee, especially when it's his birthday.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Especially with some of these leftovers, Lee take it away.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
These might smell a little funk incredible, but they're still good.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Time to find out what's lack.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
It's Lee's lap, Jovers.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (38:25):
I feel like a bad friend because I I didn't
check in on Jonas yesterday.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
I got woken up very rudely.
Speaker 8 (38:32):
By an emergency alert, as did a lot of people
out here in southern California.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
There was a five point two earthquake.
Speaker 8 (38:40):
Depending on who you asked, five point two could be
a little higher, and you know, everyone likes to make
a big funny duddy about it. Apparently all the you know,
the elephants out at the San Diego Zoo got in
a circle, and everyone's very interested in that.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I thought that was pretty cool.
Speaker 8 (38:55):
I don't know, did you guys see all this with
the earthquake?
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Nature? Baby Nature?
Speaker 3 (39:00):
I mean.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
We were looking at one of the chandeliers and the shanda.
I didn't feel the earthquake, but the chandelier was moving,
which was interesting.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
The Humble Bragg by the way, well what shadows you know? Oh,
come on, man, no big deal.
Speaker 8 (39:16):
I just feel for all the liquor stores that lost,
you know, a bottle or two out there.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
You know, poor went out from the homies guys, the
light hanging from the ceiling. Apologies.
Speaker 8 (39:26):
Also things that dropped yesterday, no thanks to the earthquake.
The trophy for the National Championship. Thanks to mister Vice
President jd. Vance Alum of Ohio State didn't realize that
the trophy came in two pieces, decided to break it
in half and.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Drop it on the ground.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
First off, did you guys know it was two pieces?
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
I didn't know it was two pieces.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Yeah, I'm not sure why it is.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
I had always seen it with the I had always
wondered what was going on.
Speaker 8 (39:53):
I thought maybe that they just were taking time to
engrave the bottom half because I'd always seen it with
without the plaque on the bottom, and I was wondering
what that was about.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
But yeah, apparently they just separate.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
By the way, Jack Swerg got one hell of a
shout out. He will never forget that the rest of
his life. The way President Trump talked about his game
winning plays for Ohio State so pretty cool. It was
pretty cool to see for that young man. Yeah, yeah,
that's what we do. We still show saw that
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