Andy Furman and Bucky Brooks Recap the NFL Draft!

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only Bucky Brooks. Bucky, have you disguised? Have you kind
of rested up a little bit from these draft TV shows?
I mean it's amazing. Really, every telly you turn to
it's a draft. It's amazing.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah, it is amazing. It's amazing how popular the draft is.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
It's amazing how many people have an interest in just
watching their favorite team select players. But look, it's an
exhausting weekend, but it's a really rewarding weekend because all
the work that you've done throughout the year, tracking the players,
talking about the team, you finally have an opportunity to
see a play out.

Speaker 5 (01:06):
I got to ask you, how much of the draft?
Did you watch?

Speaker 3 (01:10):
All of it?

Speaker 6 (01:12):
All?

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (01:13):
You went every single see.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
I watched first night and I wanted to see how
my local Cincinnati Bengals did it.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
Pick eighteen.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
I watched most of round two and that now is
the second day, and other than that, I kind of
switched back and forth. But it was very obvious to
me how the NBA playoffs.

Speaker 5 (01:29):
Avoided the NBA Draft. Did you see the scheduling?

Speaker 2 (01:32):
They did not play much going head to head against
the NFL Draft. And look, to me, the NFL has
become like the big bed bullying sports. You know, they're
on top of the mountain and everybody wants to try
to get to that mountain. They can't get through it.
And it amazes me. This is not even a sporting
of it.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
It's just a draft.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
It's four hundred thousand people, the announcers said, well, lining
the streets of Detroit to watch people get picked in
a draft, you know, hooting and hollering, getting drunk, were
in jerseys from their favorite teams.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
It was amazing to me, and I.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Scratched my head and said, I don't think i'd want
to go there. I mean, I have no desire to
stand out in the street of Detroit and yell and
scream and book commissioner Roger Goodell, I didn't want to
do that. I wouldn't go.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
It's become a football festival. It's become a celebration of
sorts of the game. And one of the best things
that they've done is taking the show on the road.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
I remember a few years ago when.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
It used to just be in Radio City Music Hall
in New York, and you always had to go to
New York to be a part of the draft, And
then they moved to Chicago due to a scheduling conflict,
and after that they've opened it up and what we
have seen, man, it's just such an appetite for just
being around the game. Detroit was fantastic. I want to say,
over a three day period they had almost eight hundred

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thousand folks kind of come through there just to participate
in the event. And you said, look, there's nothing about
the draft that's really exciting. You hear people get their
names called, go to their favorite teams and that's it.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
But it just tells you that the pool football has.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
On the American view in public, like they just can't
get enough of it.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
It amazes me because every draft, every spare as a draft,
the NBA draft, no one goes to.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
They really don't. I'm not even just in June, I know,
the end of the June. That's basically it.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I don't think there's any TV ratings to speak of
on that baseball draft. I have no idea what it's at.
No one goes, I mean several days as well. I
think that's coming up major League Baseball draft because the
problem with the Major League Baseball draft is a kid
gets drifted maybe out a high school or college, and
you maybe have to wigh three, four or five years
till he gets.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
To the major leagues. You know, in.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
College with football, it's like boom, this guy's gonna help
us next year. That's basically what it's all about. And
it's a big event. I get it, you know. To me,
it's like I scratched my head. I can never believe it.
And I'm sure there are people who have old timers
that work in the NFL. You administrators, general managers, maybe
even the commissioner scratches his head when they say you
know what. I'm amaze. You know, I don't know how

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this took off, but it's an amazing event and it's
a great thing for the NFL. To me, it's almost
at the unofficial start of the football season.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
That's what it is.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
Yeah, because all of the hope begins with the draft.
It starts with free agency, but it really kind of
kicks in when the draft comes because now.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
You have a reason to be optimistic.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
The NFL does a great job of selling these players
that we're bringing in they're going to help your team
get to the next level.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
As a fan, that's all you're looking for. You're looking
for a little.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Reason to be optimistic that this is going to be
the year that your team goes And because we've seen
so many cinderella stories from worse to first teams that
kind of find a way to go from struggling to
make their way to the playoffs, that everyone is willing
to buy in.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
And it all starts with the way that.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
The NFL sales hope and opportunity on free agency and
the draft.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Big question for you right now, did you do better?
I know you got a several mock drafts right a
NFL Dot com did you do better your mock draft
or your Ncuba basketball bracket.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
I think I did better my mock draft because I
think I ended up having the first six picks. I
think nine of the thirty two were like proper player,
were proper team. But yeah, it's different. The Ncuba tournament.
It was just a nightmare for me. A lot of
blood letting.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, I know that, I know the feeling about that.
You know, you talk about the picks. Four quarterbacks in
the first five, picks, six in the first twelve. And
look the NFL right now, especially in the first day,
it's all about funding superstars, stars of the future. The
next day and the third day probably is finding guys
that you could plug in and help you win. That's
basically what it's all about. And that's why the first
round is so exciting because the stars and let's talk

(05:45):
about that first round. People are going crazy about the
Atlanta Falcons and what they do with their pick. Right now, Look,
they signed a new franchise quarterback in Kirk Cousins. The
guy's like thirty six years old, right, he's coming up
some surgery. And then they draft from the University of
Washington Machol Pennix Junior at a number eight pick. Everybody
say it's a stunner. I'm going the other way. I'm
swimming upstream. I don't think it's such a stunner. First

(06:07):
of all, you have told me many a time that
you can't win in the NFL without a quarterback. Okay,
you look at Kirk Cousins, you're coming off the surgery.
He's no kid, right, And I think what the Falcons
are trying to do, and maybe I'm mistaken. They're trying
to follow the script of the Green Bay Packers, who
have always had star quarterbacks and kind of had a
quarterback in waiting, and they did that with Jordan Love

(06:29):
and Aaron Rodgers. I know, I get it that Michael
Pennix is no kid. He's about twenty six years of age.
But I don't think there's such a stunner. And everybody's
going crazy about this pick. And I'll tell you what,
I don't think that's such a bad deal.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
I really don't, you know, I don't think it's a
bad deal.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
I think where people are having a tough time with
when it comes to the pick is the fact that
they paid so much money for Kirk Cousins and then
came back and used a top ten pick on a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
And we have kind of fallen into.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
This belief that with quarterbacks we treat them with gloss
that once we have a quarterback, we can't bring anybody in.
We got to call and ask him for their permission
to bring somebody else in. And everything has to be
about the quarterback and helping the quarterback. And while that
is true, you want to help the quarterback, the other
thing that is true is if you don't have an
a level quarterback, you cannot win in this league. And

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Kirk Cousins is thirty six years old, he's coming off
of an achilles injury, and you want him to be
your quarterback for the next few years. But you just
don't know if kirk Cousins is going to be the same.
And signing kirk Cousin to whatever you signed him to
shouldn't prevent you from then attacking the draft, right. I

(07:42):
would say the fault of the Falcons will lie in
maybe the lack of communication that they have with Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Kirk Cousins and his.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
Agent were obviously upset that they didn't get contacted until
Atlanta was on the clock. But one of the reasons
why you don't contact them you don't want the agent
or the player to leak out.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Their intentions for the world to mess it up. So
that completely makes sense to me.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
And the other thing, you don't tell kirct hey Man,
we may take a quarterback prior to signing him in
free agency because ultimately he's the player. You're the general
manager and the head coach player. They coaches and general
managers do things to build the team. That's not necessarily
his responsibility. So I get it. It's messy, but if

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Michael Penix turns up to be the player that they
think he will be, it won't matter in two to
three years. And that's why as a general manager, you
cannot do things to appease the fans.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
You have to do things that are in the best
interest of.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
The team, and you have to hope that those things
work out because the criticism is gonna come no matter
what you do. So hats off to the Falcons for
being convicted and sticking to their convictions.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
On draft night, Well said, I love what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
I mean, quarterbacks nothing in this league without one, number two,
number three. The fact is that Penix may very well
be insurance. And number four, the kind of guy that
Kirk Cousins is. He reached out to Michael Penick Junior.
At least that's what we heard, and I think that, yeah,
he was blindsided by it, But I don't think the
ball club or any ball club owes any player or anything,

(09:19):
because when you tell one person, you're eventually gonna tell everybody.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
That's the problem. Got to keep it quiet. No, I
do understand that.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
I think I read this as well that the owner,
Arthur Blank, he was blindsided as well. But you know what,
he pays guys to make those decisions. It's not his pick.
They did what they had to do, and he's Pendix's
gonna be a great backup. He's not gonna start, I'm sure,
but there's a good opportunity here that Cousins may not perform,
they may get injured. So you got a good backup,
you got a good insurance policy with Michael Penix Junior.

(09:47):
No big deal. And everybody's going crazy, You're like, oh
my goodness, how'd they do that? Well, you know why
they did it, because you need a quarterback to win
in this league.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
That's why they did it.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Yeah, you have to have a quarterback, and I'm not
so sure that Arthur Blank was not necessarily in on it.
Arthur Blank has been very, very vocal about wanting to
get his franchise quarterback. He was upset that the last
couple of years that they were in purgatory without a quarterback.
Going in and getting Kirk Cousins is one thing Backstopping

(10:18):
him with a young, talented quarterback ensures that if the
Atlanta Falcons are what they think they're going to be,
meaning a winning franchise, a team that is perennially in
the postseason, they weren't going to be able.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
To get into the conversation to get a quarterback.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
Also, let me let everyone know that in the twenty
twenty five class, there aren't The twenty twenty five quarterback
class is not like what this class is. The class
next year has one player that people are speculating about
being a first round talent, and that would be sure
duor Sanders. And we still don't know if that's going
to be the final case. But there's no star power,

(10:58):
there's no buzz about that class. Maybe the Atlanta Falcons
looked ahead to twenty twenty five and maybe even a
little bit in twenty twenty six, and try to anticipate, well,
what quarterbacks could be available on the horizon if we
keep Kirk Cousins and in two years we need one,
will there be a quarterback available? Doesn't look like there's

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gonna be an A level talent. Let's grab an A
level talent right now so that we have them so
we don't have to worry about picking a player that
we're forced to pick when it's our time to go
look for another quarterback.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Love to hear that, and look, I'm going to read
to you what I read just the other day in
the Athletic and said that there's job security. And then
there's what they wrote, wasting a high pick on a
guy who won't help the team this year, a team
that's clearly loading up for a potential playoff run. The
Falcons apparently told Cousins they be drafted a quarterback in
the later rounds. Then they made this selection. That's what
they wrote in the Athletic. I say, wait a minute,

(11:54):
what about the Green Bay Packers. Aaron Rodgers was the
quarterback and they drafted Jordan Love. I don't have a
problem and They've done that several times. That's their blueprint,
that's what that team does, and it seems to work
because the Packers basically made the playoffs almost every single year.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
Yeah, I mean, look, it worked for them. And it's
also it's always uncomfortable. I don't think there's ever been
a time when we've had a quarterback that endorses the
team taking another quarterback. That's just the nature of the position.
Is a very sensitive position, is a position full of insecurities,
and as a team builder, you can't necessarily worry about

(12:33):
the hurt feelings of your quarterback when you're doing something
in the best interests of your team. You can let
them know, you can tell them, but I'm gonna tell
you Andy, the quarterback is the only one who gets
that kind of.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Respect where they tell you.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Everybody else on the team, all those other guys that
have been drafted, the players that occupy their current positions
aren't being informed. Hey man, letting you know we're gonna
take a pass rush here, Hey we're gonna take this quarterback.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
That's just a part of it.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
And I would expect Kurt to be a professional, to
come in here to play and perform and compete like
he was going to compete regardless. He just has a
young player now in the room with him, and the
expectation is never that Kirk Cousins will mentor Michael Pennocks.
That's on Michael Pennix to learn from watching Kirk Cousins
and from the quarterback coach in the offensive assistance to

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help get him, help him improve. But it's not on
the veteran player to necessarily pass down his knowledge and
tools as the franchise quarterback.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
You know, if you look at the prior to the
draft and they have like these team needs to say
the Atlanta Falcons either edge rusher, a quarterback, a wide receiver,
a defensive tackle, and of safety, quarterback was never mentioned.
And then these lunatics in the media start giving out
grades in the drafts. So they're not going to give
the Atlanta Falcons a great great because Kirk Cousins think.
But you know what, I disagree. First of all, I

(13:51):
don't go with grades. I go with what player do
you need? And of course, if you have a need
for your team and that player may not be available,
but you still taking the best player available that's on
the board at that time. That to me is a
good pick even though he may not fit you a
specific need that your team has. I mean, it's the
craziest thing that if you go all over the internet,

(14:12):
that's all you see is grades, and I think the
grades mean nothing.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
They mean nothing.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
This Pennix pick may turn out to be a tremendous
pick if, in fact, even he plays next year, or
if Cousins gets hurt this year.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
So the greats thing means nothing to me whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Now the grades should matter also.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
And I am on this side of the defense because
I don't work for a team, and I am a scout,
and I do offer opinions, but my opinion doesn't mean
I have all the.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Information from the team.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
And just because I may think one way and think
the team should do something, the team is more privy
to the information on the player, and they inherently know
what they need internally. So I think it's unfair sometimes
for media scals to get upset because typically what happens
is this, teams that get a good grades are the

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teams that select the players that the media scouts tend
to light. Doesn't mean that the media scouts alight because
there's a lack of accountability. When it comes to the
scouts on our side, we can say that this person
will be greade, that person will be great, or whatever,
but if it doesn't turn out, we just kind of
wipe our hands with and say, oh, well, didn't work out.
Whereas with the team, there's a level of accountability that
it must have because if the player doesn't turn out

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to be what they think he's going to be based
on when he's selected, oh, the consequences are severe. It
crushes the team's ability to sustain a playoff runt and
those things.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
That's why you can't really worry about.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
Grades because a lot of times the people that are
grading have never sat in those seats, have never had
to make the decisions that the general managers have to make,
me included, haven't had to sit there and talk about it.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
So all you can do is speculate.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
You can theorize, but you certainly can't necessarily say that, hey,
this is right, this is wrong, because no one knows.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
And we want to know until two or three years
down to earth.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
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Speaker 2 (17:42):
When was the last time that had an offense like this?
We'll tell you that in just about a minute. He's
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This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. And
of course, Bucky, you got someone fired up a little bit.
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Speaker 5 (18:00):
How you doing.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
I'm doing well. How y'all doing? Fellas good?

Speaker 5 (18:05):
Thank you good good.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
I love to hear, love to hear Brooks. Mister Muckett
Brooks man, I want to ask you how you feel
about Tom Solesco's first run as the GM. I'm actually
happy overall.

Speaker 9 (18:17):
I was kind of.

Speaker 6 (18:18):
Thrown off when Michael Pennicks was taken by the Falcons.
My heart was snatched out. Not gonna lie, but ultimately
I loved getting brock Bowers. I loved getting a thumper,
the linebacker from Ohio State. I love that sneaky pick,
the running back out of New Hampshire. And my favorite pick,
I think is the center who can use as a guard.
But I wanted to get your thoughts.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
No, I thought Tom so Lesko did a really good
job of, you know, avoiding the traff of going for
need and taking the best player available in each of
those spots. And at thirteen when they took brock Bowers,
there were more players that they could have added at
offensive line that would have helped them, but brock Bowers
was clearly the best player available.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
And when you do that, what.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
You do is you create a more talented roster and
you put the owners on the coaches to figure it out.
The one thing that we can say about Tom Telesco
during this time with the Chargers, the Charges were roundly
seen as one of the teams with the best roster
in football. Now it's about ap taking this roster that
has been upgraded with talent. Brockbirds Powers was a great addition.

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Jackson Powers Johnson, who you mentioned.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Was also solid.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
Del Mark Glaize from Maryland gave them two players that
they can use to upgrade the offensive line.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Now it's about putting the pieces of the puzzle together.

Speaker 6 (19:32):
I totally agree.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
There we go. All right, thank you for the cole.
Have a great day. You know you want to ask this.
Bucky's the man. They'll tell you the swer right there.
All right, let's move I did say coming into this
segment right now about you know, when was the last
time that had in offense like this. Let's talk about
the Chicago Bears. Obviously it was the only way to go.
They you after the quarterback and anything. Everybody in America
knew that. Everybody on the planet knew they were going

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to draft Caleb Williams from USC as number one.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
But look what they did after that.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
I mean, you talk about if they're trading justin Fields
to the Steelers. Obviously they had to get a quarterback,
and they got the quarterback that everybody thought they would
have for their succession playing down the road. But look
what they've got now. They may very well have the
best receiving core of football.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
Now.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
They got Dj Moore, Keenan Allen, a quality third guy.
I guess in the draft when when they pick up
Romeo doonza I mean, honestly, I don't think there's any
trio in the National Football League that is a better
receiving court than Chicago Bears right now.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
I mean, it's definitely a nice receiving court.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
They've done a really good job of upgrading the weapons
on the perimeter. Dj Moore got a playmate early in
the offseason when they traded for Keenan Allen. Bringing over
Roma Doonzay, who's the consuman professional and really a very
interchangeable piece and playmaker on the perimeter allows them to
have three big bodies on the perimeter to go with
Cole Kmet and even Gerald Everett, so they have.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
A lot of options.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
Shane Waltson has a lot of options to make the
game for Kayler Williams. They can line up in multiple
tight end sets, they can line up in empty formations,
they can spread it and shredd it. They have DeAndre
Swift in the backfield where they can run it.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
There are a lot of things to like about the offense.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
That the Bears have assemboled, but now it's on Shane
Waldron to deal with the pressure putting it together. The
expectations are going to be through the roof, and for
a team that has never really had to deal with
high expectations, particularly on the offense, it's gonna be it
could be uncomfortable for them because everyone is going to
expect Keayler Williams to hit the ground, run it, and

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to look like Patrick Mahomes right out the gate, regardless
of him being a rookie, because he's been built up
to be this mythical superhero. That's the expectation. That's a
lot to deal with when you're a young player. And
we'll see how not only does he deal with it,
how does Shane Waldron as a play caller deal with it?
Because all eys will be on the Bears offense.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
You know, it's almost not fair what they do to
these athletes, because after they drafted Kayleb Williams heard and
read about that he was the highest graded player regardless.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
Of any position on the board.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
All Right, so I'm saying to myself, this guy better
make it in the National Football League, otherwise he's gonna
be considered a flop. I don't think people who write
these things, and obviously the people who write them are
not players, have never played the game. But if these
guys don't make it, they're gonna get drilled pretty hard
in the media. I don't think it's fair. That's the
way it is. That's the way it's going to be.
That way it always has been. But again, the pressure

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on these people, not just the people who make the
position or make the picks or the coaches like you say,
but I think that the player themselves.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
They have to.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Go out there and perform, and the expectations obviously through
the roof.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
And I think that when you go from.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
College to the pros, it's a heck of a leap,
it really is. And I don't think it's fair what
they're doing here. Hey, if the Bears lose the first
two three bull games next year and he has a
couple of interceptions, it's going to be hell to pay
for him.

Speaker 5 (22:54):
It really will be.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Yeah, it'd be tough for him, But I mean that's
kind of or to deal too.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
That's pro sports and you have to be ready for it.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
And that's why when you're investigating the players, you got
to make sure they have the right football character makeup
to handle the expectations that everyone will have of them.
You know, Kayley Williams has to be able to, you know,
deal with the criticism and the noise that is around him.
And he has to do it without succumbing to the noise.

(23:27):
Changing as a player one of the things. And that's
why the maturity question will always come into play when
you select these players. Are they mature enough to handle
what is on the horizon for them? Can they handle
the expectations that are going to be on them. I mean, look,

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it's significant. It comes with a lot of noise, but
you got to be able to handle it. And if
you handle it the right way, look, there won't be
any issues when it comes to how you perform, how
the team performs, and those things.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
You just got to.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
Focus on what you're in control of and you can't
worry about all the noise that comes with the media speculation.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
And I'm going to call out some of my brethren
in the media because I remember when they when I
think it was the Washington game, when you know USC
lost that game, was Caleb Williams went to the Stands
was crying to his mom, Remember that, and everybody said, well,
he doesn't have the maturity. You know, he's crying. He's
going to be a leader, and how could you be
a leader when you're crying? Right, and then all of
a sudden, now on the draft night, he's a great leader.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
I mean, you can't have it both ways.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
I got it.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
I understand. Look, so he's crying, big freaking deal. He cried.
It was a tough loss. You know what, I'd rather
him cry to go out there and party and laugh.
When you think about it, he took the game to heart.
He cares, so he cried. A lot of athletes cry.
I'm sure you've seen it in the locker when you
played losing a big game. There's some guys that cry.
That's just the way it is. But they're saying is
not a good leader because of that hogwash.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
That's what it is. Hogwash. Can't believe it.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
That's what I think. What happens is.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
I think what happens is when you look at those
things from a scouts vantage point, you just worry about
the emotional control. Okay, so does he have enough emotional
control to hold it together in these tough moments?

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Will he break down in public? If things aren't going
our way.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
If we're on a three, four or five game skid
and he's not playing well, how is he going to
be able.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
To handle it?

Speaker 4 (25:15):
When the media wants to talk to him, he's going
to break down publicly? Is it going to be too
much for him? All of those things factor in. It's
not about him not being a human and not being
able to express himself, but it is about, hey, let's
talk about this guy. This guy's going to be the
face of the franchise. How is he going to handle
all of the expectations. Does he have the maturity to

(25:35):
be able to do it? Is he emotional stable enough
to be able to handle those things?

Speaker 3 (25:41):
It is a valid question.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
And I know everyone is really upset about the way
scouts go about their business because there was a controversy
around Spencer Ratler, the quarterback that Sounds that ended up
being drafted by the New Orleans Saints, and people were
discussing why are scouts looking and taking clues from his
appearance on a reality series in high school called QB One. Well,

(26:05):
the reason we're doing that is because we want to
know who the player is, and that's a part of
his being. That's a part of his childhood and how
he's come up. And yeah, sure he may have evolved
and matured from that, but it gave us a peek
behind the curtain on who.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
He is, what he is, and what he's about.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
And I am surprised that so many people are really
upset about that. But man, when you're digging and investigating,
that's part of the deal. You're making potentially multi million
dollar investments in young people, and so you just want
to know what makes them tick to give you the
best opportunity to surround them and support them the right way,

(26:43):
while also protecting yourself by knowing, here's who we're getting.
This is exactly what we need to prepare for. Just
in the event that something happens, we at least know
we know how to best handle it because we prepare
for it.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
All right, let me squeezing Randy. Randy wants to talk you.
Randy from Florida. You're on Fox Sports Sunday with Bucky Brooks, Ollo.

Speaker 9 (27:02):
Ran More and gentlemen, the son's coming up down here
Fort Myers real quick, and I want to ask you.
I'm a Florida Gator grad and we haven't done much lately.
I hear people are also upset about the Parasol pick.
So I want to see what Bucky thought about that.
And I'm a Bucks guy. I never heard of this
center coming out of Duke. But that's all I want
to know. Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
Okay, so let's take take him one bar one. Ricky
Pirosol great player, was a great player down in the swamp,
one of the best wide receivers that was on the board.
And I think he's a phenomenal addition to the San
Francisco forty nine ers.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
My take on it.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Kyle Shanahan saw what happened in the Super Bowl. He
saw how the Kancity Chiefs scrapped their game plan, decided
to play more man demand, and it bogged down the offense.
In anticipation of what is going to happen this year,
he wanted to have answers to those tactics. Normally, what
happens is in the offseason, every team studies the top teams,

(27:59):
and they study how to defeat the top teams.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
When they popped in the tape.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
And saw how Kansas City slowed down the Niners, Kyle
Shanahan's like, hey man, we need to get ready for this,
we're going to see more man demand. So what he
wants is someone to go with Brandon Nyuk. So now
they have multiple route runners who can get open to
take some of the pressure off of Deebo Samuels, because
Deebo Samy is a terrific player, but he's more of
a guy when you get the ball in his hands,

(28:24):
that's when his magic happens. Brandon Ayuk and Ricky Pearsol
are more guys that can create space and separation, and
you're trying to give those guys more opportunities. So to me,
it is anticipating the man demand tactics that teams will
use against him, and you want to have more personnel.
Graham Barton going to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers another fantastic pick.

(28:45):
And the reason why he's fantastic. He's a guy that
can play every position on the offensive line tackle, guard, center,
right or left, it doesn't matter. Started his career as
a center at Duke before kicking all the way outside
to tackle. Given the losses that the Temp Bay Buccaneers
head inside, Graham Bordon can field multiple needs and so
it gives them an opportunity to just put their best

(29:06):
five linement on the field and figure it out so
they can play musical chairs to get that done.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
There you go, Thank you for the call, and we
move on. Okay.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Coming up next on Fox Life from the tierrack dot
com Studios, one NFL quarterback is finally off the hot seat.
We'll tell you who he is. But first, Kevin Wye.
We apologize being a little bit late. We got all
the sports.

Speaker 10 (29:24):
Yeah, we got a busy day on Saturday as the
Lakers keep their season alive. They extended at least by
one more game by beating the Denver Nuggets in Los
Angeles one nineteen two. One oh wait, so there will
be a Game five in that series? Is Anthony Davis
a strong performance twenty five points twenty three rebounds. The
Oklahoma City Thunder take a commanding three to nothing lead

(29:47):
in that series after they beat the New Orleans Pelicans
one oh six eighty five. The Boston Celtics an easy
time of it against the Miami Heat one oh four
to eighty four, so the Celtics up ahead in their
series two to one. The series between the Magic and
the Cavaliers now tied at two. Orlando with another dominating
win against the Cavs one twelve to eighty nine, and

(30:09):
we have some injury updates for Sunday's games. Giannis He
is doubtful for his game against the Indiana Pacers. He
has been missing some time with his strang CAF and
it's looking unlikely that he will be able to suit
up on Sunday. Damian Lillarde same thing. He's also doubtful.
He strained his achilles and on Saturday was seen walking
in a boot, so we'll see if he will be
able to go for Milwaukee against the Pacers. The Clippers

(30:33):
Kawhi Leonard he is questionable with knee inflammation. If you recall,
he did miss the first game against the Mavericks of
this series, so they're not sure if he will be
able to go on Sunday. In the NHL, we had
a couple of overtime games as the Dallas Stars get
their first win of the series against the Vegas Golden Knights,
winning at three to two with about four minutes ago

(30:54):
in the overtime period. Vegas dough is still ahead of
that series two games to one, and the Islanders extend
their season. They got a win in double overtime against
the Carolina Panthers three too, so Carolina head three to one.
Florida is ahead three to one, but they did drop
a game to the Tampa Bay Lightning on Saturday six
to three. The Boston Brewins three to one winners at Toronto.

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They're ahead three to one in that series and the
NFL Draft concluding on Saturday. And an interesting note, after
bo Nix was taken with a twelfth overall pick in
the first round, there was not another quarterback taken until
Spencer Ratler was selected by the Saints in the fifth round.
That's the longest gap in NFL history in regards to
quarterbacks being taken in the draft. Florida State quarterback Jordan Travis.

(31:37):
He was taken by the Jets. Washington signs undrafted quarterback
Sam Hartman from Notre Dame Colts signing undrafted quarterback Heat
and Slovas from a BYU back to you.

Speaker 5 (31:47):
Guys, all right, thanks keV.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Good for him. Good for him. Could be an l
for the team, but good for him. We'll explain that
in just about a minute. He's Bucket Brooks and many
Ferman and of course we're gonna have ask Bucky in
about six seven minutes from now and when I say
good for him, I'll talk about Daniel Jones. It's about quarterbacks.
Daniel Jones, the quarterback of the Giants. Everybody and talk
about the media is being shocked with the Atlanta Falcons
pick Kirk Cousins. Back up now with the Knicks. The

(32:11):
big deal here, this is the chakra. I thought that
everything was in place for the Giants to find the
replacement for Daniel Jones. Instead, what do they do. They
draft Lsu wide receiver of mylite Neighbors on the sixth
pick overall. And that gives me, in my mind at
least some confidence for Daniel Jones. And they're building around
now to give him some support. So I guess the
management of the New York Football Giants are saying, you know,

(32:33):
even though he's going to be in his sixth season,
it hasn't been his fault. They got John Runyon is
a guard, Austin Schlottman is a guard. Devin Singletary is
going to replace. They think Sae Kwon Barkley and free agencies.
So I think right now, with Malik Neighbors coming up
there on the offensive side of the football, they have
a little more confidence than Daniel Jones, and it's good

(32:54):
for Daniel Jones's confidence.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
What do you think about that pick buck?

Speaker 4 (33:01):
Look, the word on the street is that they were
trying to get up, move up the board, to get
into the conversation where they could get Drake May couldn't
get it done, so then they turned their attention to
adding a playmaker to the offense and Elik Neighbors. Elik
Neighbors gives them a chance to have their first number
one receiver since obj Odell Beckham Junior. And that, look,
that's a long time to go without star power on

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the perimeter. Caius Tony was taken in the first round,
didn't live up or play up to expectations. Now you're
counting on Elik Neighbors to elevate the quarterback. Daniel Jones
hasn't been great. Signed the megablockbuster deal. There were people
on the outside, well even within the locker room that
were kind of perplexed that Daniel Jones got big money before.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Saquon Barkley got his.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Saquon Barkley is done, so now Daniel Jones has to
play up to the compensation level and you're trying to
add pieces around him. To help him do that, but
ultimately it depends on how he plays when he has
the ball in his hands.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
Yeah, once again, the so called experts is saying what
the needs of the Football Giants.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Were wide receiver? Will they answer that with Mylik Neighbors?
But they also had quarterback on that list. And look,
I mean, maybe the Giants are right. Only time will tell,
but maybe it wasn't the old Daniel Jones fault. I mean,
seventy percent of that offense was Sae Kwon Barkley. Didn't
have many receivers there and the offensive line stunk, so
they built it up with a couple of guards. They
got a receiver right now, and many people think that

(34:25):
my Leite Neighbors is maybe the best receiver in the draft.
Could they A lot of people have said that, So
what's your take on Mylait Neighbors.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
Fantastic player, He has the jews. When you talk to
the coach he's down at LSU, they just talk about him.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Me and a dog. Very competitive player, loves it the
bigger the.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
Game to Betty, performs, loves everything about football. He has
the tools and the talent to be a great one.
It's about giving him opportunities to be great? How long
will it take him to acclimate to the pro game?
That is always the question when it comes to Ricky receivers.
But from a talent standpoint, dude, and ask for a
better receiver, prospect and elite.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Neighbors, and you can answer a better partner than Bucky Brooks.
He is Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furrman. We are Fox
Sports Sunday on Fox Sports.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
Ready.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
You got a question? He has all the answers. Ask
Bucky is next.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Ask Bucky coming right up. That's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Firman.
It's about twelve minutes now before the top of the
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Speaker 5 (35:25):
Are ready.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
We're live from the ti raq dot Com studios. And
by the way, we'll change things around a little bit today.
If you want to join Ask Bucky, you could do
that at eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox Special
Draft Day edition. So if you have a draft question
eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine
to ask Bucky Brooks. Right now, let's do it. It's Ask
Buckie time. Now here we go. First question of today,

(35:47):
which is a bigger event in your mind, Bucky Brooks,
the Final Four, the Kentucky Derby, the super Bowl or
the NFL Draft.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
Mmm, US to super Bowl is a big event. But
I would say the Final Four is kind of like
the marquee event. And I will only say that just
because of the amount of interest that people have in
March madness. I love the super Bowl, but the super
Bowl is really corporate, whereas I feel the Final Four
is still an event where the fans really go to
the game.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
The super Bowl is not necessarily that.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
And let me put a little asterisk next to that,
because I don't think it's true, truly fair to put
the Final Four in there, because that's like a month
long event, you know. The other one's a day event.
So the NFL Draft is three days. So yeah, I
hear what you're saying.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Your thoughts on this the NFL, And I heard Roger
Goodell say this during the draft period. I mention it
to some media person, maybe a news conference. The NFL
now seriously talking about an eighteen game schedule. We kind
of knew it was on the horizon. Your thoughts about
that because should they do that? And they probably will.
They're going to kind of only have one preseason game,

(36:53):
and I don't think that's fair, not only to the fans,
but I think not fair to people trying to make
a ball club.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Well, so here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
I think what ownership is trying to do is they're
trying to figure out a way to do it because
the fans, right, the fans have to pay exorbitant prices
for preseason games and they never get a chance.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
To really see their favorite players.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
So if I'm gonna pay big money to get a
ticket to park and to do everything, I want to
see my best players play. And that's why Roger Godeal
has been pushing hard for eighteen and two eighteen regular
season games, two preseason games. I think it eventually would
get through because it's gonna be eventually mean more money
for the players, more benefits of the CBA, and they

(37:41):
will eventually get what they want, which is an eighteen
game schedule that probably includes two by weeks.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Interesting, all right, now, we talked about the NFL Draft. Obviously,
the first day is finding the stars of the future,
the superstars, the big names in college. The second, third
day basically finding guys you could plug in that can
help you win. And certainly, as they say, it's not
as sexy, but the results matter tremendously the teams chasing
the playoff spot, trying to get into the playoffs and
maybe try to win the championship. So I got to

(38:08):
ask the question the difference between a project of a
player and a player that needs some fine tuning. What's
the difference? They say, I'm drifting a project.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Uh, well, the project is a guy that you're saying
he needs a lot of coaching.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
He has the raw.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
Talent and tools to play at the next level, but
he's going to need a little time to develop. So
coaches and everyone they have to have realistic expectations on
how to develop him.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
But more importantly, when.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
He's going to be able to contribute as a full
time player. It is just a you know, it's just
letting people know that, Look, he's not going to be
a guy that comes in right away and has success.
He's going to need time to develop into the player
that everyone expects him to be.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Can I add a part two to that question, when
Michael Pennix Junior be considered a project because he's not
going to come in right away. You would think it's
sunning Kirk Cousins for Atlanta for one hundred million dollars.

Speaker 5 (39:01):
He's got to be the guy.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
No, I mean, he's not a project. I think the
quarterback position is a little different. If you ask Michael
Pennix to start and play this year, he's more than
qualified to do it because he has over fifty starts
in college. But because of the position Kirk Cousins, what
you have, he doesn't have to It's a luxury to
be able to do it. This is a yesteryear's strategy.
Carson Palmer was drafted two thousand and three number one overall,

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didn't play his rookie season because John Kittner manned a position.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
This is the way that they used to develop quarterbacks.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
It wasn't a right of passage that you came into
the league and got the ball.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
You had to see it, you had to earn it.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
You had to develop before they gave you an opportunity
at quarterback. I think you're seeing a little back to
the future approach with some of these teams.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Okay, a story that kind of went almost unnoticed. I
have to see a little fine print on it. The
NFL is permitting. Now Guardian caps. Guardian caps are padded
headgear for next season for the players. The comments on
that because I've see they're looking for safety, But my
gut feeling is the NFL is doing it to protect
their rear end because they don't want to be sued
no more lawsuits, so they can do everything they can

(40:08):
so they won't be sued down the road by the PA.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
Probably, So, I mean, that's probably a legitimate observation. They
want to make sure they do everything in their power
to show the public that they're trying to take care
of the players. Now, we just five minutes ago mentioned
about playing more games, and so the NFL is kind
of talking about both sides of his mouth talk about
health and safety while trying to extend the season.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
But this is a ploy to make sure that they
are showing people that they're trying to take care of
the players.

Speaker 5 (40:38):
Have you ever seen what a Guardian cap looks like?

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Yeah, mister Kazoo, I have seen it.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Not my thing, all right, Bucky brooks Andy from an
L ten States linebacker, you this school is wide receiver
University will tell you about it.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Next a Fox. You're listening to Fox Sports.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
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(41:17):
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is Bucky Brooks, the man who watched the entire, the
entire NFL draft that I gotta admit I did not.
And I like to know if anybody else has watched
that draft beginning to end. I like to hear from
them really, either on Twitter at Bucky Brooks and Andy

(41:37):
Furman FSR or eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox
eight seven seven nine ninety six sixty three sixty nine.
Do you know anyone else, Buck, who watched that draft
beginning to end? Besides you, I'm sure people involved in
the league.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
I don't know any I was working it. It wasn't
like I was on the counts being able to do it.
I was I was working. I was working. If I was.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
If I was not working, I can't guarantee you that
I alred watch every single minute of the draft. But
because I was working, because I was on the broadcast
on the Fast Channel, I had a responsibility.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
No, no, I watched it. Okay, there was a little
bit of an adendum over there. Now I get it
all right, yea, how to watch it? Okay, I didn't
have to watch it. I mean the first round. Look,
it's entertaining. The first round was great. It's offense. Fans
love offense, Fans loves they love points. It's just just
just the way it is.

Speaker 8 (42:24):
You know.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
It's a funny thing because living in Cincinnati, everybody was
speculating that they go for a defense, they go for
a defensive lineman, and certainly that was a need for
the Cincinnati Bengals. And my thought was this, a they
love points, they love offense. This team is built around
Joe Burrow. He's the offense. And look, I would say
that this team right now is built to win games
like forty one thirty eight. They'll just score more points

(42:47):
than you will. So what do they do? They go
out and draft the guy that could protect Joe Burrow,
you know, and we'll get into that a little later on.
Certainly not a lot of experience, but he's an offensive lineman,
and maybe he's a project.

Speaker 5 (42:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
He only played in games prior to the draft. But still,
in all, you know, the experts are somewhat wrong. You
need defensive help, no doubt about that. But if your
team is built for offensive strength and they are with
three receivers and some may not be there down the road,
and you got Joe Burrow and he's the guy who
can lead you to the promised Land, you want to
protect that guy. And I'm pretty sure Joe Burrow had

(43:22):
a lot to say back in the day when they
got Jamar Chase, his buddy from LSU. And I think
Joe Burrow may have gone to the coaches and say, look,
I need some more protection. I don't want to be
in my butt again this year with sacks. So do
you agree with that? I mean, certainly the team has
built the score points and forget about the defense and
be like the Big twelve in football. You know I'll
beat you forty five forty one, That's what I'll do.

Speaker 5 (43:44):
I'll just score more points than you.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
Yeah, I don't think, but here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
The teams that are winning Super Bowls, and I'll scoring
the other teams, they're the teams that are playing really
good defense.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Maybe when it.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
Comes to Joe Burrow, asking for protection is an effective
counter tactic meaning to be able to do that. But
I don't know if it's one of those things where
they can have addressed it with a pass rusher or
anything like that. To me, taking Amara's mems makes sense.
Do you want to make sure that the offense good.
The offense is the strength of the team. Joe Burrow

(44:17):
is your franchise quarterback. You want to make sure he's
upright and protected. But they came back and they got
a defensive player in Chris Jenkins who is an outstanding player.
His dad played for Lonton League, was a Pro Bowl
at all pro player. They addressed that they got a
good wide receiver Jermaine Burton, who was trained by TJ.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
Hushman Zada out here in California.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
So they invested in the offense while also kind of
throwing some little pieces here and there on defense. They
got figure out what they're gonna do with Trey Hendrickson
and T Higgins. That's really before they can address the draft.
They had figure out what they're gonna do with Tray Henderson.
Trey Henderson's played at a high level since coming over
from New Orleans. He obviously rest of the trade before

(45:01):
the draft, this says, anybody was like, oh, yeah, no chance.
Now it's about how they going to negotiate on a
new deal, because I'm sure Trey Henderson wants.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Some more cheese on the burger.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
He wants a little more money, and they have to
figure out a way to accommodate his requests.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Un cleg you brought that up, you know, because I
read that. I mean, it was a bombshell. Twenty four
hours prior to the draft, Trey Hendrickson of all people saying,
you know, I want to be traded, and then he
comes out and says, you know, if you don't trade me,
I'm gonna quit.

Speaker 5 (45:32):
I'm going to retire when I'm scratching my I don't
get it.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
So, in other words, you'd rather get no check whatsoever
if you don't get traded, then play at a pretty
good wage right now. And you signed the contract with
the ball club a year ago an extension, So what
do you expect?

Speaker 5 (45:49):
I mean, I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
I know, I thought that maybe it was a good
move prior to the draft because maybe he thought they
would trade him and then in fact that have a
possibility to replace him in a draft pick.

Speaker 5 (46:01):
It didn't work out that way.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Hey, Trey, you know you need to do hold Carson
Palmer and see what happened there. That's exactly what Carson
kind of pulled the same garbage when he was here too.
And I understand that when Carson was here, they were
the dreads of the National Football League.

Speaker 5 (46:16):
You know, it was.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Bad, bad, nobody wanted to go to Cincinnati and play.
But why would Trey Hendrickson do that prior to the draft,
sign the contract and then have the I'm not gonna
say audacity, but did the unsmarts to say I'm gonna
quit if you don't trade me. How stupid is that?

Speaker 4 (46:35):
Well, here's what I'll say when it comes to all
all of that. Contracts are fluid on both ends. Contracts
of fluid from the team in because the team will
always approach a player about taking a pay cut, or
they will cut a player for salary cap considerations. The
player certainly has the right to demand more money when

(46:59):
he's outplayed his contract. The issue that you have from
a player standpoint, they didn't really have leverage the CBA.
When the owners got smart, they rewrote the CBA and
they made it very prohibitive for players to hold out.
So if you're under contract, you don't really have a
lane to be able to punish the team for not

(47:19):
paying you what you think you're worth. If you hold out,
the fines are so prohibitive that I mean, you're out
of pocket. Chris Jones talked about how much money he
made he lost sitting out, and he had to make
that up by hitting all of his incentives because you
can no longer waive those fees like you could.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
Back in the day.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
I think for Tray Hendrickson and for the other players
that are looking for more money, you just have to
hope that it's an opportune time for the team to
address it. Otherwise you're kind of stuck on it and
it may suck for team.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Morale in the locker room. But that's just kind of
how it is in today's game.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
I'll tell you what Telk Grady was killing Trey hendricks centers.
He lost faith in the fan. Look, I don't think
he cares, or any player really cares about the fans
and what the fans think about them. And it's like
any other person. I mean, if you're a banker and
you want to get a raise and you go crazy
with your boss, you know, the only difference being is
the fact that, yeah, a you want more money like
Trey does, but no one knows about that, and you're

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doing it behind closed doors. When you're a pro athlete,
you're on a big stage and everybody knows every move
that you make. You know, what restaurant you go to,
you're out in the public. People are taking pictures of you.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
You know.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
If you're sitting at a restaurant and some guy comes
over to you while you're reading and you do not
you dis in for an autograph, oh my goodness.

Speaker 5 (48:31):
On social media, you'll get killed. You really.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
That's why these athletes today, and you know it better
than anybody, they don't go out. I mean, athletes back
in the day would go check at the hotels and
go down to the restaurant whatever it may be.

Speaker 5 (48:41):
They all get room service.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Now they don't want to be bothered by fans coming
up in their face and using their telephone as a
camera and getting them on social media and going viral.
When a guy says, get away from me, I'm eating.
That's just the way it is. Am I right on that.
I'm sure I am.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
Yeah, it's changed a lot, But also I would say
what has changed fans. Fans have also changed because it
went from being a community where everyone was kind of supportive,
like fans adore their favorite players. Now you see things
like we just saw the Clipton went vi our love
the little kid who has something to say to DK

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metcalf We're talking about a teenager and adolescence who's in
high school talking about DK Metcalfe not being good enough
because Jalen Ramsey is his quote unquote daddy. That stuff
never would happen, like when you would getting the presence
of your heroes, you never would take a shot, even
if he wasn't your favorite player, You wouldn't say anything
disparaging to him because you're a teenager and you're looking

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up to someone who may be doing something that you.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
Aspire to do.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
Because we don't have that anymore, Yeah, like we don't
have that anymore. Social media has kind of changed everything
where the keyboard Warriors have enough courage to say anything
to anybody, and it look, it's just changed. And what
you have are players who are reluctant to engage in
those discussions with fans and all that. And it's not

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one hundred percent, because there's plenty of good fans out there,
But I'm just saying, like, all it takes is a
few bad apples to spoil the bunch.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
And so we had this weird space with athletes.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
And fans and what used to be a very connected
experience now it's kind of become divisive and acrimonious and
very hostile sometimes between fans and players when it.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Really shouldn't be. It should be an admiration.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
Even though you pull for your respective teams, there still
was a level of respect there.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
That level of respect doesn't exist.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Yeah, And the one player that comes to mind that
really gets involved with social media and kind of fans
is Kevin Durant. I mean, someone's got to get a
hold of who say, look back off, you can't win,
You're not gonna win, A fan calls you a bum,
Just let it go, you know. And I think what
these fans do when you talk about the courageousness that
they have on the keyboard.

Speaker 5 (50:53):
I call it beer muscles. That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
They have beer muddy all of a sudden, behind closed doors,
no one sees them. No one knows what their name is.
Us have these these stupid code guards for their name
on social media.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
They have beer muscles.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
You know, they're they're tough and their their bullies when
no one could see them.

Speaker 5 (51:08):
That's what they are.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
Yeah, I mean it's a different I mean, it's definitely
a different hustle. And that's one of those that it
is disappointing. But we're seeing more of it, the hostility
between fans and players more so than ever. Tell about
Kevin Durant, Kevin Durant walking into the arena in Dallas
and uh, the fans, a lady and her husband or

(51:31):
partner give him the middle finger and it's amazing and
call them out of his name.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
To me, it's just I'm blown away by it.

Speaker 5 (51:39):
It's disgusting.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's just it's just bananas and the
players should always be above it.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
But I mean, it's a lot. It's just a different time.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
We're just in a much different time when it comes
to those kinds of things.

Speaker 5 (51:53):
It's amazing it really is.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
I mentioned this coming into this segment about the schools
at Penn States linebacker you and this school right now
has to be wide receiver. You we're talking about LSU.
You know, Ohio State and Alabama. They got plenty of
a lumps in the NFL, but two first rounders my
lak neighbors we talked about him is going to the Giants.
Brian Thomas, your Jags. They joined Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase

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and O'Dell Beckham junior from LSU.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
Is that a coin? I got to ask, is that
a coincidence? Right now? Who do players who are good.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Wide receivers or are maybe top five five star high
school players that they kind of zoom into that school saying, look,
this is a school that produces great receivers. I want
to go there because NFL scouts. Are you looking for
me because I am a receiver. I'm planning at a
school that is known for receivers? Is that what they do?

Speaker 4 (52:43):
They definitely have those conversations, you know, they definitely have
the conversations when you're thinking about going to schools because
everyone as far as to go.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
To the next level.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
And I will add another team you talked about wide receiver.
You for as much as you can talk about LSU,
Ohio State has to be in that same conversation. Just
given the fact that recently we've seen Marvin Harrison Junior,
Chris o'love, Jacksonvith and Jigba, Garrett Wilson and others come
through there. I want to make sure I give the
proper due. But yeah, both of those schools have been

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lauded for the ability to produce receivers of late and
it will continue. It does play a huge role, particularly
on the recruiting trail. Guys want to go where they
have an opportunity to potentially learn how to play and
learn how to kind of develop and go to the
next level.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Yeah, it's a consideration for sure.

Speaker 11 (53:35):
You know.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
The irony is when you just put up Ohio State.
That school has always been a bad mouth by national
media people for the lack of a strong quarterback until
this year. You know, with the Texans, really, when you
think about it, they never really produced a tremendous great quarterback.

Speaker 5 (53:51):
Am I correct on that? But they have great receivers.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
Yeah, no, you are right.

Speaker 4 (53:58):
Ohio State has been beat up in the past for
quarterbacks they had guys that were drafted but hadn't necessarily
perform to a high level.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
CJ.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
Stroud kind of debunked that myth and kind of put
that to bed for a little bit. But yeah, now
you're absolutely right. It was an issue, was a consideration,
and it was one of those things that everyone talked
about it, you know, talked about it at nauseam about
don't draft o high state quarterbacks they don't play well
in the National Football League.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
It amazes me, it really does. I mean, I mean,
you're on the inside, you know what's going on. If
there are two players, and like Marvin Harrison, obviously it
was a no doubt or right. But if you have
a quarterback at Ohio State and a quarterback maybe at
Oregon to Washington and similar statistics, similar body frame six, three,
two twenty, whatever it may be, would the scout or

(54:51):
the guy who's making the decision on draft night say, well,
I'm going to go with the guy from Washington because
I just don't trust Ohio State. Is that a possibility?
Does that happen?

Speaker 3 (55:03):
I mean, it doesn't happen like that.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
But the challenge is as a scout is to scout
the player not the helmet, and it works sometimes it
works for them, but it also can work against them.
So for instance, right now, you will hear people talk
about Alabama players and oh, they played for Nick Saban,
and so inherently you give them a nod because Nick

(55:26):
Saban is viewed as the greatest coach that we've ever
seen in college football. If you played for him, you
learned great information. You know how to prepare all those
other things. But it doesn't mean that it's always true,
you know, And so you just have to challenge yourself
not to fall into that trap of just giving guys
credit just because they went to a certain school or

(55:48):
played under a certain coach.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
It doesn't mean that it's always going to be true,
that it's gonna work out in their favor.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
And I think they would look at the competition they
play against too. When I mean obviously a school, there
are a couple of kids up drafted out of Toledo.
I mean Toledo's not in the same part as in
Ohio State. But you know, if you're a standout player,
we'll get drafted, right.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Well, that's what you always used to tell players.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
You used to always tell guys, hey, if you're good enough,
they'll find you, so you don't have to bounce around.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
In particular with.

Speaker 4 (56:21):
The portal, there is this belief that, Okay, I'm good
enough at this level.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
Now I got to go prove it at another level.
And that's not true.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
You know, you don't have to bounce around and go
from being at Toledo like Quinna and Mitchell to then, oh,
let me go to Ohio State to prove the people
that I can play against better competition. Man, good scouts
can determine who has it and who doesn't, and you
just have to trust that if I do the work
where I'm at, my work will be rewarded.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
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(57:15):
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Speaker 5 (57:23):
They left them high and dry. We'll get to that
in just about a minute.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
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Speaker 5 (57:45):
Again.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Just search Fox Sports Ready wherever you get your podcast,
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after we get the air, right if we're got at
the air now. Uh, you know you gotta feel sorry
for Josh Allen. You gotta feel sorry for the guy
because you thought that maybe they would trade for a
receiver to replace Stefan Diggs instead what they did the

(58:08):
Buffalo Bills, I have no idea why.

Speaker 5 (58:09):
I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
They're not gonna criticize as much as the Atlanta Falcons
are with the Kirk Cousins deal. But they traded down
that once, but they traded down twice, and they allowed
not one, not to but seven receivers to come off
the board, including three after their original twenty eight pick.
And the Dolphins get this, and Josh's got to thinking
about this one. They ended a pass rusher and chop

(58:31):
Robinson to make life even more difficult for him. So
I don't understand what the Bills did. They had to
get a receiver they needed Stefan Digs replayed. They did
maybe not one, they didn't two. I know they got
the kid from Florida State, Keon Coleman, but I don't
think that's the replacement for Stefan Diggs, that's for sure.
And then then they also lose the kid, Gabe Davis.

(58:51):
They went, he went to Jacksonville.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
They're trying to do something different.

Speaker 4 (58:57):
Brandon Bean came out and kind of tipped his hand
up before the draft.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
He talked about we believe.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
You don't need a number one receiver to be able
to be successful in this league. They believe that they
have what they need with Josh Allen, that Josh Allen
will elevate the team and it's not necessary to have
a Stefan Diggs or a wide receiver of that caliber
on the squad. Part of their decision could be influenced
by watching Pat Mahomes go to back to back Super

(59:24):
Bowls without a notable name at wide receiver. Everyone to
talk about Travis Kelcey, and Travis Kelcey is really the
lead horse in that passing game for that passing game.
But for the Buffalo Bills, they're saying, we don't need that,
and they do have two really good tight ends in
the building, Dawson Knox and then last year they took

(59:45):
dal kin Ka from the University of Utah to give
them the opportunity to work inside out. Much like the
Kansas City Chiefs have prioritized the tight end, the Buffalo
Bills are trying to do that. When they went and
got Kean Coleman, Kean Coleman was in my pit, in
my estimation, a pick designed to give them a big
body that they could target in the red zone, someone

(01:00:06):
that can be a strike zone expander over the middle
of the field to play his role, and they'll put
some other little plug and play pieces around them, but
it won't be any notable names. I believe this is
Sean McDermott trying to get back to having a team
as opposed to a collection of individual stars that are
somehow working together on game day.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Well, Ken Coleman's pretty big. He's like sixty three sixty
four about two twenty, so it could run. He got
some speed. But here's the problem. I thought what the
Bills did where they screwed up? They treaded back twice
on Thursday, the first day of the draft, and the
first trade was at the Kansas City Chiefs. So you
mentioned they did, and the Chiefs drafted the Texas wide
receivers Avia Worthy, that number twenty eight, and that could
have been with the Buffalo Bills. And it's Worthy right

(01:00:48):
now is going to be great with the Kansas City Chiefs,
no doubt my mind.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
Right, maybe maybe not, But you've got to remember Worthy
ran four two one of the combine.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
But he also weighed one hundred and sixty six pounds.

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
The trick will be how does he fare in the
league that is loaded with thick, imposing menacing tacklers over
the middlefield in the secondary? Can he you know, can
he stand up? Can he deal with the heat and
the kid that ultimately he's gonna face. But Worthy, like
there's a lot of conversation about a They wanted to

(01:01:22):
get their Tyreek Hill but really he is more like
DeShawn Jackson was for Andy Reid doing his time together
in Philadelphia. Slender but big time playmaker, can take the
top off the defense, all of those things. Xavier Worthy
may add the deep ball in, so don't expect him
to necessarily be utilized like Tyreek Hill was. Different body types,

(01:01:45):
different strengths to their game. But he might be more
suited for the Deshaun Jackson roll on the perimeter.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Okay, that was the first tray they made. Then they
made a second trade with the Carolina Panthers and they
the Panthers picked the kid out of South Carolina was
Xavier Leggett. He was hitting them with what's the story
with him? I don't know anything about Xavier Lego. I
didn't watch South Carolina play football.

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
Zavier Lego is kind of like a bigger version of
Deebo Samuel, same school, same kind of game. Everything is in,
you know, catch and run, put a ball in his hands,
let him get out the way. Not because people are
trying to make the comparison to DK Meca. I don't
think he's built to play like that. But he's more
like a Debo type, physical aggressive, really had a ton

(01:02:29):
of production this final season where he had an opportunity
to kind of get after it and dominated he. Look,
he stepped up and took advantage of it. And now
you just have to hope that he can sustain it
because he only had that one year spectacular production at
South Carolina. Can he continue to be the player that
had displayed this year or would he go back to
being the guy that he was the first couple of

(01:02:50):
years at South Carolina.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Well, it's funny you mentioned that the coaching staff in
Buffalo said that you don't need a number one wide
receiver to win, and certainly they followed up on that,
because I don't think they have a number one wide
receiver right now.

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
They don't, And look, they're not the first to say
it down in Jacksonville. Doug Peterson has said it to me,
and I learned it when I was in Green Bay
with coach Homegren who had kind of learned it from
Bill Walsh during their time together. The better the quarterback,
the lesser they need to have a high end wide receiver.

(01:03:26):
So if you believe that your quarterback is a gold
jacket caliber quarterback, well you don't necessarily need to have
a bunch of A pluses around them. You need to
have some good players around them, some B some B pluses,
but you don't necessarily need an A plus wide receiver that's.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Going to eat up all the salary cap.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
When you look at Tom Brady and how Tom Brady
was able to do it, he did it with some
lesser names for.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
The majority of his career.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
When they gave him Randy Moss and wils Working Philly Blossom.
He threw for more yards and they were more productive,
but they didn't win Super Bowls with that team. They
won Super Bowl when there were more balanced they had
the unherded players on the outside Pat Mahomes.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
As great as it was for.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
Pat Mahomes with Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelcey and all
those guys, the fact that they went back to back
with unknowns on the perimeter, it's opened some eyes and
it is making people reconsider how they build their team,
particularly with the wide receiver market escalating, where wide receivers
are getting thirty two million dollars annually and commanding that

(01:04:28):
kind of attention on the salary caps.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
Face, Yeah, people.

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
Are going to say, is there a cheaper way, a
more efficient way to be able to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Let me go back if I may, because I think
I read somewhere maybe I'm will based on this. The
Xavier Worthy kid from Texas who was drafted now by
the Kansas City Chiefs. They claimed that he's the fastest
player in NFL combined history.

Speaker 5 (01:04:49):
Is that true?

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
That history ran for? You wanted to come up.

Speaker 5 (01:04:53):
That's the fastest effort and Buffalo passed up.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
The fastest ever to come on. Yeah, Buffalo passed up
on it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
But he might not have been a fit because you
have to understand where Buffalo is and what they want
to do. Look, a five to eleven six foot one
hundred and sixty six pound wide receiver might not do
it because there's some concerns about that size and people
haven't talked about it enough, and the time is intoxicating

(01:05:21):
that he ran into combine be size matters in this league.
And you know, I know Devonte Smith and people will
through all those things. But Davonte Smith, Tyler Locket, they're
different kind of players than Xavi.

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
You're Worthy.

Speaker 4 (01:05:34):
He'll have to prove that he can handle the rigors
of the physicality and toughness in this league.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
You know, it's funny you mentioned that, but I would
agree that maybe you don't need a number one receiver
if you've got a great run game.

Speaker 5 (01:05:46):
They don't really have a great run game in Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
That the I think Buffalo right now is if you're
graphing them, they're graphing down. I mean, I think that
may have hit their peak. And I think we see
that they're moving down. Because I'll tell you we're.

Speaker 5 (01:06:00):
Going to get into this. We'll look at the Pittsburgh
steel is what they did and the AFC.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Now, I think that Buffalo is not going to be
the dominant team that they once wore. I think Cincinnati
still could be strong. I think Pittsburgh's going to be
strong as well, and certainly Baltimore is always going to
be strong. I don't put Buffalo up there anymore, am
I correct there?

Speaker 4 (01:06:17):
Maybe Joe Brady's would have to change how they approach it,
and they changed the way they played down the stretch
last year.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
If anyone was paying close attention to.

Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
The Buffalo Bills, they went to more two tight end sets,
more of an old school conservative approach where they're trying
to run the football, control the game, make lighten the
load on the defense, not engage in those shootouts and
also eliminate some of the pressure that was on Josh Allen.
I think they kind of want to live in that world,
become a little more blue collar and their offensive approach

(01:06:48):
because that blue collar approach on offense could help them
play better defense.

Speaker 5 (01:06:52):
There we go, all right, I hear what you're saying.
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Speaker 10 (01:07:10):
Yeah, we're in the thick of both the NBA and
NHL postseasons and the Los Angeles Lakers snapping in eleven
game losing streak in a seven game postseason losing streak
to the Denver Nuggets, winning it one nineteen one away
to extend their series two way fifth game as Denver
ahead a three to one Anthony Davis a double double,
a twenty point twenty rebound twenty five point twenty three

(01:07:33):
rebound double double. Oklahoma City the Thunder now ahead in
their series against the New Orleans Pelicans, three nothing as
after they get a win in New Orleans one of
six to eighty five. The Boston Celtics demolished the Miami
Heat one oh four to eighty four, so the Celtics
lead that series two to win. The Magic win against
the Cleveland Cavaliers one twelve eighty nine, so that series

(01:07:53):
now tied at two. Some injury updates for today's games.
Yannis doubt full four his game against the Pacers today.
He's been out with a stringed CAF and it's not
looking likely that he's gonna be able to suit up
when the Bucks take the court against the Pacers. Same
for Damian Lillard. He has a strained achilles was seen
in a walking boot earlier on Saturday, so they're not

(01:08:16):
they don't believe that he might be able to go.
He has listed as doubtful. The Clippers Kawhi Leonard listed
as questionable for his playoff game at Dallas. He's been
dealing with knee inflammation and that kept him out of
the first game against the Mavericks, So that's another situation
to keep an eye on. In the Stanley Cup playoffs,
the Dallas Stars overtime winners against Vegas three to two,

(01:08:38):
so they cut into that series lead. It's now two
to one in favor of Vegas. The New York Islanders
get a double overtime victory against the Hurricanes, winning at
three to two, so they stay alive as Carolina leads
that series three one. Tampa Bay Lightning also keeping their
season alive, beating the Florida Panthers sixth threes to Florida
had a three to one the Boston Bruins, they're ahead

(01:08:59):
and their there's three one. They get a three to
one victory against the Toronto Maple Leafs, and the NFL
Draft has concluded, so all teams have made their selections.
And an interesting note, after bon Nix was picked with
a twelfth overall pick, it wasn't until Spencer Ratler in
the fifth round that a quarterback was selected, and that's
the longest gap between quarterback selections in the draft in

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NFL history.

Speaker 5 (01:09:22):
Backs, you guys, all.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Right, thanks KVC about it now, and now you better
do your homework. That's coming right up. He is Bucky Brooks.
I'm Andy Ferman. And by the way, we'll have Bottom
Bauer betting at about six seven minutes from now. I
want to talk about the Dallas Cowboys right now, because
I think this team right now, I think they're like
in a washing machine. They're spinning around. I don't think
they know what they're really doing. I think that there's

(01:09:43):
too many cooks that spoil the broad if you know
what I mean, too many people. I think maybe in
the front over is making decisions. Why am I saying
that if you're going to trade back in that first round,
which they did, you better know what the teams in
front of you with plenty to do. They lost. The
Cowboys lost potential start is out to Tampa. They set
the Graham Barton and they again lost to the Chiefs

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that were the same receivers Avia Worthy.

Speaker 5 (01:10:05):
How they do that?

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
They dropped from number twenty four to number twenty nine.
Why they do that? And they picked up a third
round pick for that. I don't get it. I just
don't understand why they did that, and it doesn't look
good for Dallas.

Speaker 5 (01:10:18):
I don't think it was a good draft for them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
I really don't, because I don't think they filled the
needs that they had to get. They needed an offensive tackle,
which they did get the kid Tyler Guiding from Oklahoma,
so they filled that and evil see what he does.
They needed a center, they needed a wide receiver. I
don't see a wide receiver on their draft list, So
I don't think overall, Dallas did much to help themselves.

Speaker 4 (01:10:39):
Yeah, I mean, like, so here's the thing, because it's
really about putting all the pieces of together, pieces of
the posle together. What you're doing free agency compliments what
you do on the draft day, compliments what you already
have established on your team.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
The Dallas Cowboys are, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:10:55):
And a lot of this was set by what Jerry
Jones said, talk about it being all in and so
all in to us on the outside, led us to
believe that they're going to have these flurry of activities.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
They're gonna be very active.

Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
On the free agent market, they're gonna be willing and
dealing on draft Day, and.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
That's not what transpired.

Speaker 4 (01:11:14):
They must believe that they have the ability to answer
all of their questions internally, and they've done a really
good job of drafting in the past, so we just
kind of have to take them at.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
Their word for it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:25):
The questions that I have with center around they don't
have a marquee running back. They need a partner to
play opposite CD Lamb. Brandon Cooks is fine, but they
need somebody else. And you just wanted are they going
to be able to sustain some of the levels of.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
Success that they've had after.

Speaker 4 (01:11:44):
Winning what twelve games in each of the last three seasons.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Right, And I think the major problem right there, you
don't have a left tackle. I mean, if I'm a
quarterback right now, I'm sleeping up, I'm not.

Speaker 5 (01:11:56):
Sleeping at night.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Really, they lost Tyrone Smith. He's signed with the Jets.
Why song with the Jets. I have no idea, but
he left the Helbish to go to the Jets, and
they need a tackle. They need a strong offensive tackle
left tackle. They do well Tyler Smith. He may be
able to fill that void. I don't know if he can.
But the primary need for the Dallas Cowboys going to
the draft this year was getting a tackle, and certainly

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I don't think they filled that need. And then for
a quarterback, you gotta protect that quarterback. That's what it's
all about.

Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
Well, I mean, it is all about protecting the quarterback,
but it also is about making sure.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
That the player that you pick is in the right
value spot.

Speaker 4 (01:12:34):
Because if you pick someone too soon, who's not good enough,
then it becomes a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Tyler Gayton is an athletic edge blocker.

Speaker 4 (01:12:41):
He is someone who has the athleticism to be a
left tackle. I mean he has the footwork. He can
be a dancing bear. He's just inconsistent, and some of
that inconsistency is due to his inexperience. But he has
a lot of the traits that you look for at
the position.

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
They get an edge.

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
Rusher and Marsha Kneelan, who's an all day sucker, high
motive player.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
He's able to kind of get after it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:02):
Cooper BB is a really good interior a lineman, so
already offensive line wise, they're pretty good. The questions that
you have though, are they didn't invest a significant pick
in a high end wide receiver. Yeah, they took one,
but when you take someone in the sixth round, you
don't have expectations that they can be an immediate contributor.

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Same can be said for them attacking their secondary. Kaitlin
Carson coming over from Wake Forest, maybe he gives them more,
but traditionally it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
We'll see.

Speaker 4 (01:13:34):
They got to what should be and we have to
focus on the first three rounds. They have two potential
starters on the offensive line and a starter on the edges.
So I'll say I would give them a check and
that right there should put them at a B B
plus without even looking at anything else that they may
do after that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Okay, I want to go back to mar Sean Keelan
because he's a kid who wipes by six three six '
four maybe two seventy. Right now, I think that this
guy is a project. And why do I say that
he's coming from Western Michigan. I mean, I just think
that you have to look at the competition you play against.

Speaker 5 (01:14:09):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
You've always told me that you know, it's more important
to have a lot of college games under your belt
before you go into the NFL, and I get that, okay,
but this kid played at Western Michigan. To me, if
I had a choice of getting a kid from Western
Michigan or Iowa or Big twelve or Big ten, whatever
it may be, I'm going Big ten, Big twelve rather
than going to Western Michigan. Maybe I'm crazy just the

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way it is. I mean, tell me a little bit
more about this Marshah Quaitlyn kid.

Speaker 4 (01:14:35):
March On Kitelyn is a good player prospect, how motive player.
What you speak to are some of the things that
some team builders believe in. I'm gonna get the best
kids from the blue collar programs, the blue blood programs,
and I'm not going to waste my time trying to
develop a small school standout who it takes two.

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
Or three years to begin to realize his potential.

Speaker 4 (01:14:56):
I'll be read off served with the plug and play
player that I can seak their language in those things.
But look at six on one hand, half a dozen
on the other. I'll say this, Marshawn Neeland has some talent.
He's intriguing because of what he's able to do on
the edges. And let's be honest, they have not had
a lot of success in recent years with some of

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their veterans playing at a high level.

Speaker 5 (01:15:20):
Right and I quelan I think did well in the
Senior Bowl this year too. Whatever that means.

Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
I mean, like you talk about a guy who who's
really really explosive, I mean four seventy five forty vertical jump,
thirty five and a half almost a ten foot broad jump,
just really really intriguing. He's going to have a shot
to develop. And this is kind of how the Power
Cowboys have always gone about their business.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:15:44):
They they tend to draft like smaller school guys from
Texas that kind of like figure it out. And look,
he's a good player, small school guys, stood out, stood
out at Western Michigan. Has a chance and he's a
player who was look five years in the program. So
he has a lot of starts. He'd locked a lot

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of starts on his bill.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
There we go.

Speaker 5 (01:16:08):
All right, I hear you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
I trust you, I always have, always will. He's Bucky Brooks,
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Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
All right.

Speaker 12 (01:16:39):
I'm excited for this week because we've got a couple
couple new sports thrown into the mix now, so this
should be fun. This should be fun. With last week
Shay filling in. We Uh, there's a little communication issues.
We're not going to update the score from last week.
But he did tell me that Bucky one anyway, so.

Speaker 5 (01:16:56):
No, he did that.

Speaker 11 (01:16:59):
Come on, we is anyone surprised?

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
You know, I never had a complex until I started
playing this game with you guys. I have like no
confidence in my life anymore. Really now, Andy, I believe
in you. Still, I'm afraid of you know, I'll tell
you how bad things have gone for me. I'm afraid
to start my car but it can explode. Really, that's
what you've done to me.

Speaker 12 (01:17:19):
I'm sorry, that's really that's yeah. Wow, Okay, well anyway,
let's move on here. So the first four we're going
to start here is sailing. So it's the Bermuda Grand
Prix Competitive Sailing.

Speaker 10 (01:17:33):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (01:17:34):
The way these work is they do kind of match
races one versus one is kind of with a bracket style,
so one match we're going with two of them. So
the first one here is Germany at minus one thirty
five versus Switzerland at plus one oh five. And Bucky
will start with you this week.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
Ooh, let's go with Germany. Let's go to Germany. Those
German ships, German engineering. Let's go with Germany.

Speaker 11 (01:18:00):
Very hydrodynamic.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
You really locked me in right now? Speaking of locking in,
Switzerland's like a locked in country. There's no water in Switzerland. Really,
I mean, there were those landlocked countries, and you're gonna
give me Switzerland, right, I mean, come on, I didn't
have a fighting chance. I'm better off building my own
boat to compete against you. But I'm gonna still take
the underdog. I think I'll take Switzerland. I have confidence

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in the Swiss because they make good watches, the Swiss,
and good chocolate too.

Speaker 12 (01:18:27):
Everyone knows their watchmaking contributes to sailing.

Speaker 5 (01:18:31):
Well, you know what a little bit like a compass,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 12 (01:18:34):
Okay, come on, now, something there, there's something right anyway. Next,
we got Denmark versus the US, UH and Andy. We
will start with you this time. Who you got I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Bet against the US of A. Really, but you know
what I'm going to. I'm going to because I just
have a feeling this conflict. There's egotistical people on the
USA team. I'm going with Denmark. Going with Denmark, pty
like that because they have good cheese.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
Wow, wow, complete trader like trader.

Speaker 5 (01:19:03):
I'm a loser on a.

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
Trader, that's all right. I won't commit treason. I'll take
I'll take the home squad.

Speaker 11 (01:19:10):
All right.

Speaker 12 (01:19:10):
Wow. So now now we're moving over to the Chinese
Women's Volleyball Championship. It's Shandong at plus three point fifty
versus Jang Sue at minus six hundred. Bucky, who you.

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
Got, Chang Song. Let's take Chang.

Speaker 11 (01:19:30):
Song shan Dong.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
Chang Dong with.

Speaker 11 (01:19:35):
Shandong and Jiang Sue.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
I had no idea wouldn't even play volleyball because they're
rather short than stature, right, I mean they probably can't
even see over the net. I'm just saying, okay, I
hate the blood brush people, but they really are. But
I'll take the other team. I'll take the other I
can't pronounce it. I can't spell it. The name looks
like an eye chart.

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
Chang Su.

Speaker 11 (01:19:58):
Yeah, okay, right, good good, I left eye good pick.
All right.

Speaker 12 (01:20:02):
Another news sport here. This is interesting. It's called hurling.
It's it's in the Gaelic games in Irons. I do
after this game, I was gonna say and like toilet
Saturday night, excuse me having breakfast. Really, but hurling, and
I think it's a kind of similar to lacrosse.

Speaker 5 (01:20:17):
But it's like curling without to see that's what it.

Speaker 12 (01:20:19):
Yeah, So it's a Galway versus kul Kenny. Andy will
start with you. Galway's even Kulkenys like Joey Galloway.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
I remember it from Ohio State. I like Joey Galloway.
I'll go gal Away.

Speaker 11 (01:20:30):
That's what I'm doing, all right, Bucky, you're gonna go
with Kenny.

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
Corn Yeah, yeah, one the other way.

Speaker 12 (01:20:37):
All right, and last one is also hurling. It's Cork
versus Claire. Cork is minus one thirty five. Claire is
minus one of cork.

Speaker 5 (01:20:44):
Give me cork, Cork, Cork, go with the cork, both cork.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
All right, Cork.

Speaker 5 (01:20:48):
There you go. Thanks.

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Speaker 5 (01:20:58):
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Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
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Speaker 5 (01:21:19):
But I do want to throw something in right now.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
I heard Kevin giving the NBA playoffs scores, and obviously
the NBA basically was in the shadows of the NFL
Draft last three days. They even scheduled around the draft.
There were many games I think on Thursday at all.
I don't think there were any games on Thursday. But
the question I have what has happened to Kevin Durant.
There was arguments years ago, not that far back, that

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Kevin Durant and Michael Jordan who's better? Now you don't
hear anything at all about Kevin Durant. They may be
eliminated the down three zip and their playoff series. Kevin
Durant right now. At one point in time, they wanted
to put him on Mount Rushmore a great player. There's
no doubt in my mind he's a great player. But
what has happened to Kevin Durant and the fact that
he can't win after leaving Golden State, he can't win

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Buck what's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:22:08):
Well, I mean, I think it's difficult for Kevin Durant
right now Phoenix, they are top heavy where they had
a lot of a plus starter talent but didn't have
the depth, and they traded away a lot of that
depth to bring in Bradley Bial, who they believe they
needed to be the third part of a big three,
and it hasn't worked out. Bradley Bil has been in

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and out of the lineup due to injuries. Kevin Durant
is old. It's still a good player, but he's older,
and I think we have to understand that he is
in the twilight of his career. He is quietly put
together sixteen seventeen seasons and we are kind of in
a different era where we think that our heroes can

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play until they're almost forty and play at a high level.
Lebron has bored us, Tom Brady has sport us. But
the overall majority of players cannot continue to play at
a super high level, not individually, but at a high
level individually while leading the collective the team to higher heights.
It's just harder to do when you're older.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
Well, I will say this, I mean right now, I'm
not going to blame the losses in Phoenix for Kevin Durant.
He's averaging twenty four and a half points a game
in the playoffs. Devin book is given you a nineteen
on Bradley Beal's about fourteen to fifteen a game. So
I don't think it's all Kevin Durant. But there's something
that Kevin Durant doesn't bring to the table that other athletes,

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great athletes and he's a great class athlete, bring to
the table. He won in Golden State, but you know what,
Golden State kept on winning after he left anyway, didn't
win in Oklahoma City, went to Golden State, went to Brooklyn,
thought he turned it around in Brooklyn, they didn't win.
And now he's in Phoenix and he can't win in Phoenix,
you know. So there's something missing there as far as
Kevin Durant's concerned.

Speaker 5 (01:23:51):
Leading a team. You know, Yeah, Ron did it in Cleveland.
He led that team on his back. He did.

Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:23:59):
But I think it may be to Lebron's greatness that
we underappreciate more so than the lack of stuff that
Kevin Durant has. Maybe it's more of a testament to
how good and how great Lebron is as compared to Kevin.
Kevin Durant as Lebron has always taken a cast of

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nobody's or unheralded players to do it. To think about
what he was able to do in Cleveland with those
guys before and after the Miami situation. Give him credit,
he just is a different animal. Kevin Durant certainly deserves
praise for being an all timer and those things, but

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he couldn't and and look, it's a team game, it's
not an individual game. But he couldn't get Okac over
the top. And then when Okac got to the thing,
he struggled, he bounced when to Golden State, and it's
a different it's a different thing. Like part of why
we feel the way we feel about Kevin Nanna is
we felt like he didn't stick out the challenge of

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trying to get it done with an organic squad. He
joined a bit of a super power. Now Lebron did
the same thing, and that's that era. But part of
the reason why we don't is he couldn't elevate the
crew that he had until he got the Golden State.
He was the best player in this series, but he
didn't elevate the team.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
And well, if you look back, no, I don't think
he elevated Golden State. They won with him and they
won without him when he left, So Golden State was great.
He just jumped on the bandwagon to get a ring.
That's basically what he never elevated, broke.

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
In that series a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:25:32):
But in that series though, in that series, in the
playoffs those two years, he was the best player on
the floor, Like, no, there's no denying, and they probably
went a third if he doesn't pop his achilles.

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
You know, he was the best player on the floor.
So I'll give him credit for that part of it.

Speaker 4 (01:25:44):
I am surprised that he didn't get Brooklyn up and going,
but part of that is Carie. They just never got
everyone on the same page, healthy and going, even when
James Harden coming over and you know in Phoenix it
hasn't been great so far. But we'll see. It's not
too late for him to rewrite the story. But tell
you know, it's getting dark early.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
Okay, I just want to touch on that for get
back to football for a second. Everybody's talking about then
everybody's uh, I guess looking and drooling for the future
on their team because of what happened during the draft.

Speaker 5 (01:26:16):
They think their picks are going to take their team
to the next level.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
The question I have, and one of the things on
my bucket list has always been to go.

Speaker 5 (01:26:22):
Into the war room, the so called war room the
day to draft.

Speaker 6 (01:26:25):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
I think next year I may ask the Bengals staff
if I could go in, just sit in the corner.
I want to see how it's done. Have you I'm
sure you have. Have you ever been in the war
room when they make the draft picks?

Speaker 6 (01:26:38):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:26:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:26:39):
Always as a scout, you're always in there. This year,
I think it's no, not not this year like in
previous years when I was a scout. Now I'm on
the media side, I don't go in there, but I
think it's been romanticized. But basically what you see is
what is portrayed on TV. You see a general manager,

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You see a car full of walls, and those walls
can be kind of like your white boards, where you
have a board that ranks we call it the vertical board,
and may be your top one hundred and twenty prospects
in any position. So just based on overall grade, here's
the top one hundred and twenty players that we believe

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that are in this draft based on what our criteria is,
et cetera. Then there's a horizontal board where you break
every team by position. Where you break the team out
by position, so you may have quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers,
tight ends, your offensive tackles, guard centers, and then you
do say anything on defense, and you rank each position

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player based on their grades and how they sack up.
And the general manager is always weighing the order on
the top one twenty versus where do our needs come
in at? When I look at it horizontally, because you
have all those guys separated according to grade, so you
just kind of look and see who are the top

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rated guys. Who are the top rated guys at multiple positions?
You can scrimmage out would you rather have this.

Speaker 3 (01:28:11):
Guy that guy? And then you have the last set
of guys.

Speaker 4 (01:28:16):
You have a backboard with the guys that are your
free agent types or they have some character issues in
those things, and you're always going through the exercise of
looking at where's our team need versus who are the
best players available?

Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
Not who we thought were going to be.

Speaker 4 (01:28:30):
But when we look up at the board, guys that
we give in good grades to man, these guys are
sitting up high.

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
Maybe they're sitting up so high.

Speaker 4 (01:28:37):
We need to go get him because he's a really
good player, and we've done all the research and we
like him. And even though it's not a position of
a need, you can't go wrong taking good players.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Hence, the general manager makes the call and not the
personnel guy.

Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
Well, the general managers at the top of the food chain,
and so it depends on how the power structure is
divvied up. Sometimes the head coach has all the juice
and control of the roster, so he will make the
final call, but the general manager is running the meetings
and doing most of the heavy lift. And when it
comes to as we're getting close to the draft.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
And the question I have And I've done a lot
of reading about this guy because they promote him, and
he's always written about Howie Roseman, the general manager VPGM
of the Philadelphia Eagles. They say he's a genius. Okay,
the guy never played the game. How could he be
so smart, so good making such great picks over the
years if he really never played the game?

Speaker 5 (01:29:35):
What kind of knowledge does he have?

Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
Does he have good staff around him? How is Howie
Roseman head and shoulders above the rest of the GMS
in the National Football League.

Speaker 4 (01:29:44):
Yeah, I can't say that he's head and showed us
above the rest of him. I think he does a
really good job at what he does. I think he
has a very bold and aggressive personality and perspective. He's
willing to go for it, but he's smart and calculating
when he go for it. He tends to attack his
needs a year before they become serious problems. He tends

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to also want to sign his players early while they
can get them below market value.

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
Hence the extensions for Devonte Smith and aj Brown. He
saw the market is bubbling up.

Speaker 4 (01:30:19):
Let me go ahead and pay these guys because there's
some other ones on the horizon I'm not gonna pay.
And so it's a combination of him having a clear plan,
being able to articulate that plan, and having really good
foot soldiers who know how to get it done. That's
why your personnel department has to be connected. There has
to be chemistry, there has to be mutual with respect,

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and they have to have a level of accountability that
everyone is going to be doing their job and they're
going to do their job to the best of their ability.

Speaker 5 (01:30:46):
You know, if you read anything about Howie Roseman. It's
an amazing story.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
He wrote letters to like every NFL team while he
was in law school. They went to Fordham University Law School,
and they just kept on writing and writing. So finally
someone gave him a chance. He worked his way up,
you know. Really, he was like a grunt when he
first started in an NFL and he worked his way
up to VPGM in the Philadelphia Eagles organization. Kind of
a tremendous story, it really is. I don't think those

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stories happen much anymore, do they.

Speaker 5 (01:31:13):
I don't think.

Speaker 3 (01:31:13):
I mean they happened all the time. They really they
happened all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:31:17):
Yeah, if you look around, because I can give you
a similar story on Brandon Bean, the general manager for
the Buffalo Bills. Brandon Bean was a guy that was
doing football ops for the Carolina Panthers.

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
When I was there as a scout.

Speaker 4 (01:31:29):
He wasn't involved directly in the personnel meetings when we
were looking at tape, but then quietly I found out
that after hours he would spend time with the then
general manager, Marty Herne.

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
Marty Herney taught him how.

Speaker 4 (01:31:41):
To watch tape, and he kind of worked with him
and helped him, and then Brandon finally had an opportunity
to kind of do things as an interim GM when
Marty was fired. Even though he didn't come from the background,
Marty had prepared him by giving him opportunities after hours
and he spent a lot of extra hours working on
his craft.

Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
Then he has his opportunity as an.

Speaker 4 (01:32:03):
Interim, doesn't get the gig, but stayed around, became the
assistant general manager, learned some more under Dave Gettleman, and
the Buffalo Bills came calling and he was ready for
the job. And I would say that he has become
an a one general manager. He hired good people, brought
some people with him from Carolina that he knew and trusted,
hired some really good folks outside that also were well respected,

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and he's continued to grow on the job. And it
takes time, but he has become one of the best ones.
So there are plenty of those stories. Most guys have
to do it because that league is about that. You
start at the bottom, you work your way up. Yeah,
so I can say that's just kind of I would
say that's more the norm than not interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:32:48):
I didn't know that, but it really is.

Speaker 2 (01:32:50):
I mean, it gives people hope and certainly, you know,
you don't have to be a player. To be outstanding,
working and kind of looking at talent and discovering talent
and scouting talent.

Speaker 5 (01:33:03):
You don't have to play the game. Although I think
coaching is a different animal.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
I think players have a lot more respect of a
coach who has played the game, maybe not so much
at a high level, but at least played the game
so he feels the player feels like he's.

Speaker 5 (01:33:17):
Talking on the same wavelength as he is.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
If you have a guy who never played the game
as a coach, I just think a player will lose
a little respect.

Speaker 5 (01:33:25):
Is that true to.

Speaker 3 (01:33:28):
I would say, so, here's what's happened.

Speaker 4 (01:33:30):
Because I just told you two brilliant stories, like you
talked about Harry Roseman, I told you about Brandon Bean.
I would say that sometimes because of those stories, because
of how guys come up, sometimes players can be frowned
upon because they didn't have to go that route. There's
an assumption that everything was easy for the player. The
player has been coddled, the player has been spoiled because

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he has been the talent, and it's hard to go
from being a player to now you got to do
the hard work.

Speaker 3 (01:33:58):
On the other side, I think at the end of the.

Speaker 4 (01:34:01):
Day, the workers should be rewarded, the guys who are
at the worker bees, they should get rewarded for putting
into work and doing their stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:34:09):
And everyone wants opportunities.

Speaker 4 (01:34:11):
Whether you're a player or non player, whatever the background is,
you need to be a worker bee.

Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
You have to be good at your job.

Speaker 4 (01:34:17):
And you know, you hope that people get opportunities kind
of based on how hard they work and how their
work is viewed in terms of the performance, not just
on a man this is my buddy, this is someone
that is the owner's son and friend of all of
those nepotism type things.

Speaker 3 (01:34:36):
And you know, I like you. Yeah, I mean yeah,
I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:34:41):
That's not ideal, but I do think when it comes
to being a coach, yeah, players tend to gravitate to
former players because they can have their instant connection they've
been into shoes or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:34:54):
But at the end of the day, that will only
go so far.

Speaker 4 (01:34:57):
Players want guys that can help them become better players,
meaning your knowledge has to be on point. You can
carry the former player card only, but so far you
have to be.

Speaker 3 (01:35:08):
Able to teach and instruct in those things.

Speaker 4 (01:35:11):
And so whether you're a player or non player, the
premium is the teaching. Can you teach? Can you elevate
my game? Can you make the complex simple so I
can digest it and play fast? That is the trick.
And it doesn't matter whether you played it or haven't played.
You have to be able to.

Speaker 3 (01:35:28):
Give the information to the players like that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
Yeah, And speaking about that, I talked about the Rooney
rule for a second until about minorities being wanted to
coach and give them an opportunity to coach. I would
say this, certainly the NFL maybe by seventy five eighty
percent African American, and there's not that many, if you know,
there's only a handful of African American coaches that have
been head coaches in the National Football League. And I
would say this one of the reasons being not so
much that not being hired. Why in the hell would

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you want to you make big money, big time money
as a player, you know, after you finished playing.

Speaker 5 (01:35:57):
Go enjoy life.

Speaker 2 (01:35:58):
Really, why would you want want to spend eight, ten
to twelve hours a day scouting and doing game plans?
And I hear stories about coaches sleeping in their office.

Speaker 5 (01:36:07):
Why would you want to do that?

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
So I don't think it's so much the Rooney rules
that you make good money and when you retire after
eight ten years, you go out and buy a yad
and enjoy your life.

Speaker 5 (01:36:17):
Am I wrong on that?

Speaker 3 (01:36:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:36:20):
I don't say the overwhelming majority of players don't make
the money like that.

Speaker 3 (01:36:24):
So there's a handful of players that make that.

Speaker 4 (01:36:27):
I would say that relatively speaking, because I wanted to
be relative based in civilian life. Relatively speaking, the average
career for players three years, and so if you go
into the game at twenty three, you're coming out at
twenty six. You've made enough money to what I would
say is have a great head start on life, to
be able to buy a house, to not necessarily have

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to go and lay bricks or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (01:36:52):
But you still have to have a job.

Speaker 4 (01:36:54):
And for a lot of players, the game is they
find themselves going back to the game because the game
has given them so much, given them an opportunity to
go to college, change their circumstance and situation, play at
the highest level, so they want to get back into
it because there's nothing like the game there's nothing that
feels that void, like the game, the competitiveness, the gladiator

(01:37:18):
in the arena, all of those things that come with
being a player.

Speaker 3 (01:37:22):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:37:22):
You can spend the rest of your life and you
won't find anything that replaces that. The only thing that
gets close to that is being a coach because the coach.
Being a coach allows you to put your feet in
the grass. It allows you to compete because there's a scoreboard.
It allows you to have the camaraderie of the locker
room with your fellow coaches and players, and you live

(01:37:42):
vicariously through the players because you can't do it anymore.
Your victories come through watching the players that you tutor
and mentor do it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:53):
So it's less about.

Speaker 4 (01:37:55):
Like that part of it, like the Runey rule and
all those things are what they are, and a lot
of times you know there are other beneficiaries outside of
those of color in those things. Like it's just about
in all of this stuff when we talk about it's
about finding the people that work hard, that can do
the job, that have the knowledge and having an open

(01:38:18):
mind to being willing to hire people that don't look
like you or don't come from your circumstance, whether that's
a player, non player.

Speaker 3 (01:38:26):
Woman, man, all of those other things.

Speaker 4 (01:38:29):
And so it's just trying to open up the floodgates
to allow other people to be involved in the game
that otherwise wouldn't be involved in the game.

Speaker 5 (01:38:37):
Well said, he's Bucky Brooks.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
Get him on Twitter, get him on exit, whatever you
want to do at Bucky Brooks, at Andy Furman FSR
eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox that's our phone number.
That translates to eight seven seven nine ninety six sixty
three sixty nine. Of course, we've got the blame game
at the end of this hour, so stay with us there.
But these names, these names may not be the stars
you thought that's next. You may hear from these guys.

(01:38:59):
One that's coming right up. He's Bucky Brooks, So Andy Furmer,
we are Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio, and Buck.
I got some players here, a list of guys that
maybe had low projections, but they may have high ceilings.
And these guys were drafted, some were not, some still
of free agentcy I'm gonna run and buy you. I'm
sure you've heard of them all because you're a scout,

(01:39:20):
you know everything. About everything. I'll run the name down.
This guy was drafted by Caroline. I think I think
he was like the seventh pick. Let me see three, four, five,
sixth rounds, sixth or seventh round. Michael Barrett from Michigan,
a linebacker, undersize at five eleven two thirty three low
projection of course, but he may have been overshadowed by

(01:39:41):
all those names on that Michigan team. But still in
all he was picked by Carolina. What do you know
about Michael Barrett? These are guys I think that were
low projections in the draft, but they may have some
high ceilings down the road.

Speaker 5 (01:39:54):
Do you agree like a Michael Barrett.

Speaker 4 (01:39:58):
So, first thing first, what I'll tell you is anyone
drafted on Day three, they're coming in as a developmental player,
and so a lot of what will lead to this
success as being right situation, right circumstance, being able to
get on the field as a special team player before
you can ascend to being a starter or a spot

(01:40:18):
starter or a backup. With Michael Berry, like you talked
about being an undersized player, he's going to have to
do his work on special teams. He benefits from the
fact that they change the kicking game rules, So now
kickoffs are back in play. They want punts to continue
to be in play, but he's going to have to
make his work in the kicking game to give himself
a shot to crack carve out a role as a
sub package defender.

Speaker 2 (01:40:40):
Interesting, and look, when you're draft in that position, there's
a good chance that you won't be on the regular
te and that's somewhat taxi squad that they have, right.

Speaker 5 (01:40:48):
He won't be he may not make the roster.

Speaker 4 (01:40:52):
I mean, there's always that possibility. But it is better
these days now because you can take six guys on
the practice squad, so there are more opportunities for guys
to stick and pick, and the money on practice squad
is a lot different now that they've been in the past,
so you can carve out a nice opportunity. And with
that practice squad, there are also no caps on the

(01:41:14):
veteran player, so now you can take a veteran player
and put on the practice squad, where in the past
the practice squad was just for first and second year players.

Speaker 5 (01:41:21):
All right, let's move on.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
Another one on the list was Cody Schrader, Missouri running back.
I think he was picked up by the forty nine ers.
I can confirm that, but I think I heard somewhere
that the forty nineers picked him late in the draft.
But the guy only had twenty two catches for one
hundred and ninety one yards and no touchdowns, So I
guess his stock was really low. But here's a guy that,
given the chance, he could probably make it. What have

(01:41:45):
you heard about Cody Schrader?

Speaker 4 (01:41:46):
If anything, Well, Cody Trader was a walk on player
at Missouri who kind of earned his way onto the field.
He was a guy that was very productive during his
time there. He may not have what we call like
the elite attributes, which kind of led to why he
wasn't picked as hot. But look, he's a really good

(01:42:07):
I mean he's a really good prospect. I mean he
did a really good job of coming on, like coming
on and tallying up a lot of rushing yards in
a very very competitive sec.

Speaker 2 (01:42:18):
All right, he could I have seen locally here a
University of Cincinnati Juwan Briggs picked up by the Browns
late in the draft seventh round there as it was yesterday,
seventh round there drawn Briggs to ninety seven six to
a lineman, a defensive Lineman, good size, this guy could

(01:42:39):
make it. I think the guy could do well. I
think he's got a good spot there in Cleveland. He
was projected seventh round there and he went in the
seventh round.

Speaker 4 (01:42:49):
So when you're a seven round player, like, it's really
trying to determine what is a redeeming quality, right, So
everyone has to have a redeeming trade that's going to
give them an opportunity to stick around and so and
Briggs this case, it's about like the size, length, the
activity at the point of attack, and being able to
kind of like make enough splash plays to give himself

(01:43:11):
an opportunity to extend his stay. But when you're a
seventh round pick, I mean you and the muck, I
mean you're you're, you're competing you. It's a dogfight to
can do it. So how he performs in preseason in
preseason games is everything.

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
Well, let me leave you with this one receiver from Illinois,
Isaiah Williams. I think he was signed as a free
agent recently with the Detroit Lions. Skuy and here's the
kind of guy you really want to see making five
nine two. I mean everything about him points that he
doesn't have a shot, short arms, they say, small hands,

(01:43:44):
but the scouts say that he could play so quality receives.
No really, I mean everything about this guy.

Speaker 3 (01:43:51):
Yeah, I mean your description wasn't great.

Speaker 4 (01:43:53):
I mean like if you were a scout in the
room and you're like, hey, coach, I got this player. Yeah,
shorthand short off, just like that's not a great description.
I mean, I will say this, I would say he
is lucky that the Detroit Lions didn't draft any wide receivers.
So first thing, when you're a free agent, you want
to go to a place that doesn't draft any young

(01:44:14):
guys because those guys that are drafted get first bited
to Apple and a lot of times teams don't like
to cut their first round picks.

Speaker 3 (01:44:22):
So then we'll flip over to the.

Speaker 4 (01:44:24):
Depth chart and I'm sitting here looking and I know
they they just extended Amara Saint Brown. I'm looking who
else is at wide receivers. So you got Jameson Williams,
Amara Saint Brown, you got Donovan Peoples, Jones who they
picked up last year. Antoine Green was a guy that
they picked up from North Carolina. I mean looking at it, like, look,
there'll be some opportunities Khalif Raymond is a guy, but

(01:44:46):
he is going to have to really ball out and
stand out from the time that these steps on the
field in mini camp, because the odds are longer for
a free agent, so he's going to have to hopefully
benefit from maybe an injury that creates an opportunity for
him to get more reps and more playing time, and
then he has to show out something in the return game,
any of those things. But it's gonna be about impressing,

(01:45:08):
and he has to have a level of consistency where
he impresses every day. He can't flash on Monday, didn't
disappear Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, pop up and have a decent
practice on Friday. His consistency is what's gonna give him
an opportunity to get on the field and make the team.

Speaker 5 (01:45:24):
You know what I say. I say he's going to
be a high school football coach.

Speaker 3 (01:45:27):
That's what I say. That's where he's going.

Speaker 5 (01:45:29):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:45:30):
I hope he makes I like to see a five
nine kid make it. It gives hope for others.

Speaker 5 (01:45:34):
That's what it does.

Speaker 2 (01:45:35):
Last but not least let me go. Joe Evans undrafted.
I don't think he got drafted, but I think the
Ravens signed him. Joe Evans, an offensive end from Iowa.
I don't think he was drafted at all. I'm looking
right now on the Baltimore Ravens draft list after seven rounds,
I don't see his name. So I think the Ravens
signed him as a free agent, but he was not drafted.

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The Iowa success story. He was a high school quarterback
in linebacker. He walked on at Iowa, So again a
success story. You'd like to see a kid like that
make it in the NFL. Long shot for sure, but
we'll see it again. The possibilities low picks, you know,
high end size. If I can say that, maybe we'd

(01:46:17):
like to see him make it.

Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:46:20):
So if he signed with the Ravens, I'm trying to
look and see if he did some of the if
you sounded with the Ravens.

Speaker 3 (01:46:25):
Here's what he has going for him.

Speaker 4 (01:46:27):
The Ravens have had a lot of success in the
past with Iowa guys.

Speaker 3 (01:46:31):
Marcia Jana's ones. You know, Stone came from Iowa. Kirk
Farrns has a pipeline to that. Look.

Speaker 4 (01:46:38):
The Ravens franchise, the Old Browns franchise, Kirk Farrens had
worked there teams like Iowa guys, because Iowa guys are
well schooled, well taught, the technique and all of those
things they've been exposed to gives them an opportunity to
make it. He has been Evans, as you talked about,
has been productive as an end. Not a dominant player,

(01:46:59):
but good enough to flash and command some attention. He
will have to kind of carve out a role. You know,
last year he had nine and a half sacks, which
is impressive, but he's gonna have to carve out a
role when he gets his opportunity to make it. And
for the Ravens, they are about giving opportunities to free agents.
Back in the day, they were all about five hundred

(01:47:20):
dollars in the opportunity to streat free agents.

Speaker 3 (01:47:22):
So Evans is going to a.

Speaker 4 (01:47:24):
Franchise that has a reputation for keeping free agents. So
that'll give him a chance to get a legitimate long look,
and then he has to take advantage of the opportunity.

Speaker 2 (01:47:33):
Great, let's hope these guys make it. We long shots
for sure. We want to give him a shot. Okay,
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Speaker 5 (01:48:05):
But first, here's a real hit Kevin Wyatt with all
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Speaker 10 (01:48:09):
Yeah, some of the NFL teams hold when they hit
on their draft picks this weekend, as we have concluded
the NFL draft rounds four to through seven taking place
on Saturday. Spencer Ratler, taken in the fifth round and
before him, Bo Knicks was the last quarterback taken in
the first round twelfth pick overall, So that's the longest
gap between quarterback selections and the history of the NFL Draft.

(01:48:33):
Other notable selections from Saturday Florida State quarterback Jordan Travis,
the Jets taking him, Washington signing quarterback Sam Hartman from
Notre Dame and the colt signing undrafted quarterback Keaton Slovas
from by U NBA playoffs. Lakers extend their season in
the series to a fifth game by beating Denver one

(01:48:54):
to nineteen to one, away to Anthony Davis a double
double of twenty five points and twenty three re bounds.
Denver ahead in his series three games to one. Oklahoma
City's ahead three games to none after they beat the
Pelicans in New Orleans one oh six eighty five. The
Celtics lead their series two to one after they get
an easy win in Miami one oh four eighty four

(01:49:15):
the Magic and the Cavs. They're tied at two in
that series. It's Orlando winning at one to twelve eighty nine.
On Saturday, some injury updates. Giannis doubtful for Milwaukee's game
against Indiana today. He's been out of the lineup with
a strain caffin. It's not looking likely that he'll be
able to suit up against Indiana. And Damian Lillard strained
his achilles and was seen on Saturday in a walking boot,

(01:49:37):
so he's also listed as doubtful for his ability to
play today. The Clippers Kawhi Leonard he had knee inflammation.
He had to miss the first game of the series
against Dallas, and now he's listened as questionable for their
upcoming game with the Mavericks. In the NHL, the Dallas
Stars in over time, getting their first win of the

(01:49:57):
series against Vegas. They won it three to two, so
it's now Vegas leading that series two games to wana.
The New York Islanders avoiding elimination. They want to double
overtime with the Carolina Hurricanes, and it is the Isles
winning at three to two. They trail in that series
three one. The Tampa Bay Lightning stay alive with a
six to three win over Florida. The Panthers ahead at

(01:50:17):
three games to one. Back to you guys, Thanks keV,
have a great day. Thanks for heloping us all day long.
And of course, don't call these guys busts just yet.
He's Bucky Brooks, He's not bust. I'm Andy Furman. Maybe
I am.

Speaker 5 (01:50:29):
I don't know. With Fox Sports Sunday on Fox.

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(01:50:51):
that I thought did tremendous in the draft. I want
to give some accolades over here and that team and
my my favorite coach, one of my favorite, maybe not
the favorite one right up there to Pittsburgh Steelers. What
a job the Steelers did in the draft this year,
and we got to talk about that because I think
they needed to improve their offensive line. They basically did.
They needed to get a center. They got one. Look
what they got. I mean, they got that kid from Washington,

(01:51:13):
Troy fun Though, and I was hoping the Bengals would
get him, but they didn't. The offensive tackle from Washington
got Zack Frasier, center who played West Virginia. Roman Wilson
wide receiver from Michigan. They got everything they needed. Where
was your take on the draft from the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 4 (01:51:30):
I loved it. Love I love their approach. I love
how they stayed to the brand. The Pittsburgh Steelers are
old school, blue collarg gritty football team. The players that
they took were fit the mold when you look at
what they were able to do throughout the draft. They
had a couple of guys that had resting background, Zach Fraser,

(01:51:50):
Peyton Wilson. You can see them get down. They're physical
and feisty. They took Roman Wilson, who is an outstanding
wide receiver and playmaker, but he comes from Michigan playing
on the Harbor. He also fits them mold when I
look at what they did later in the draft, and
one of the underrated picks that they took was Mason

(01:52:12):
McCormack coming from South Dakota State. This is a guy
that could do it all at the point of attack.
He played for two time national champions. He has a
winning pedigree. Just a very solid, like okay, hardheading and
lunch payl type draft that's gonna pay big dividends for
this team down the.

Speaker 2 (01:52:28):
Road, and Russell Wilson needs that. He always has a
history of being sacked a lot, so they got some
protection from him for the first time now since nineteen
seventy six. The Steelers used three of the first five
picks on the offensive line to protect Russell Wilson. I
think it's great, I really do. And I think they
got a great draft. And you talk about a team

(01:52:49):
moving upwards, I think that's the Pittsburgh Steelers and the
American Deal. I think the team that looks like they've
had their say and the airs coming out of the balloon.
I have to say the Buffalo Bills. I said that before.
I think I really mean that Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 5 (01:53:01):
Right now.

Speaker 2 (01:53:02):
I think not that they're in trouble, but I think
that they're not at full strength as they once were.

Speaker 5 (01:53:07):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:53:07):
There was a chart the other day, and I don't
mean to upset you, but because I mentioned a North
Carolina athlete that was drafted, and they have this list
called the potential busts in the National Football League. First
of all, I hate the term because I think if
you're good enough to get drafted as a player in
the National Football League, I don't know how in the

(01:53:28):
hell you could have to be called a bust. Maybe
the expectation factor, but if you're drafted, if you're a
great athlete and you played college football and you're good
enough to be drafted, I don't see how you've been
called a bust.

Speaker 5 (01:53:39):
Am I right right on that.

Speaker 4 (01:53:42):
I mean, look, it's premature to call everyone to call
someone a bust. I think the main thing is is
like opportunity and can you cash in on the opportunity,
So I won't call him a bus. Every situation, though,
isn't favorable to the player. So the key to most
gas success in the league is being in the right situation, circumstance,
right scheme, right coaches.

Speaker 3 (01:54:03):
All of that factors into it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:05):
Well, one of your guys, they looked on this list
and as Drake May, the quarterback of North Carolina, as
they could be very well be a bust. And why
do I say that? Why do they say that? He
was dazzling people with his deep shots and north platform
throws on the move. But an overreliance on those rare
tools seemed to create a tendency for May to play
hero too often. Bad habits followed, from ify decision making

(01:54:29):
and fluctuating footwork to a erradic ball placement and poor processing.
All that makes May and uneasy projection, especially for any
team investing a top five pick. A good number of
most of his passing and pressing problems should be resolvable
with proper coaching. It's on May and his future team, however,

(01:54:50):
to sort out his shortcomings in order to get him
on the same track as Alan and Ebert. How do
you like that? Do you ever hear that? Because you
kind of follow North Carolina?

Speaker 5 (01:54:59):
You know that.

Speaker 3 (01:55:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:55:01):
I pay attention to him, but you know, everyone the
great thing about scouting, everyone has an opinion. We'll see
Drake I have his opportunity to debunk some.

Speaker 3 (01:55:09):
Of the narratives that a out there surrounding his name
and game.

Speaker 2 (01:55:12):
All right, we'll see what happens. I hate to say
that to you, hate to ruin your day, but I
saw Drake.

Speaker 3 (01:55:18):
I'm not Drake, I'm not drinking. I hope he gets
it done.

Speaker 5 (01:55:23):
I do too. I do too, And I'll hold this
little note here and get back on the guy who
wrote this story. There we go. All right, we move on.

Speaker 2 (01:55:30):
Bucky Brooks, Andy Furman, Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Persureti's
time for fun.

Speaker 5 (01:55:35):
Point your fingers. Why the playing game? It's freaking next
the playing game coming right up?

Speaker 1 (01:55:42):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:55:43):
He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Freman. We are Fox Sports
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(01:56:05):
blame game.

Speaker 1 (01:56:05):
You ruin me. It's all your fault. It's your fault.
What is all your fault?

Speaker 7 (01:56:14):
Maybe it's everyone's fault, the liar. That's why there's the
blame game game.

Speaker 12 (01:56:20):
Let's figure out who to blame don't right as as
today's show has been NFL Draft themed, as is today's
blame games.

Speaker 11 (01:56:28):
So we'll start.

Speaker 5 (01:56:29):
Man, you let me introduce you. You know I'm in with
the blame game. Thank you blaming you? Go ahead?

Speaker 11 (01:56:36):
All right, all right, no, there we go. I appreciate
the intro.

Speaker 12 (01:56:38):
So Georgia has had more players drafted over the last
two years than any other program in America.

Speaker 11 (01:56:44):
Who do you blame, Bucky.

Speaker 3 (01:56:48):
Whould?

Speaker 4 (01:56:49):
I blame blame Kirby Smart for doing a great job
recruiting inside the portal and also recruiting and developing these players.
When you win at a high level, NFL teams want
those players, and so they've been the waniest team that
we've seen over the last three years, which is why
they've had more players drafted.

Speaker 5 (01:57:06):
You know, I'll go on step.

Speaker 2 (01:57:07):
I blamed the president of the University of Georgia, who
lets anybody who could play football in that school. I
think they lowered their academic standards. We see the kind
of players that got great players. Are they great students?
I don't think so. You know what, I think that
if you get the sheepskint from Georgia and isn't worth
as much today as it was maybe twenty years ago.

Speaker 5 (01:57:25):
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:57:27):
I love football, love college football, But you want to
blame somebody, open the doors, let them all come in
and play football. How many can read? I want to
know what the reading level is on that football team.
That's all I'm saying. I'm an academic guy by heart,
but I'm a geek, all right, But I'm telling you
right now, if I had a diploma from Georgia, I'd
say it's not worth what it was.

Speaker 5 (01:57:47):
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 12 (01:57:48):
Okay, A record fourteen straight offensive players were taken to
kick off the NFL Draft on Thursday night, the first
defender wasn't selected until the fifteenth pick.

Speaker 11 (01:57:58):
Who do you blame, Andy, I.

Speaker 2 (01:58:00):
Don't blame anybody because the game name of the game
is scoring points, quarterbacking, and entertainment, and they filled the
bill by doing that.

Speaker 5 (01:58:07):
You got great quarterbacks there.

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
Bucky mentioned earlier that the quarterback class next year will
not be as strong. You can't win in the NFL
without a quarterback, you know what. Any general manager of
personnel guy that bypasses a quarterback that needs one in
the first round should have his head examined.

Speaker 5 (01:58:22):
And that's why I have no problem.

Speaker 2 (01:58:24):
What the Falcons did with their backup quarterback with Pennix.

Speaker 5 (01:58:28):
No problem there.

Speaker 4 (01:58:31):
I would say that in this year's draft class that
the offensive players were just better. It was just a deeper,
more talented collection of offensive players than defensive players, which
is why leatu Latsu was the first one to go
off the board, but he didn't go to fifteen. It's
not an indictment on the way the league is shifting.
It's just that the way that it turned out in
terms of what college was producing for this year's draft.

Speaker 12 (01:58:54):
The NBA had several playoff games during Night one of
the NFL draft.

Speaker 11 (01:59:00):
It seems like poor scheduling. Who do you blame, Bucky?

Speaker 12 (01:59:05):
The NBA had some playoff games on during Night one
of the NFL Draft.

Speaker 4 (01:59:11):
Well, I mean, look, the NBA, they can't shut down
everything just to acquiesce to the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:59:15):
They're trying to also compete and establish their market share.
But right now NFL is king. I can't blame it.

Speaker 4 (01:59:21):
Most times, you would think that most people would watch
the NBA instead of watching names fall off the board.

Speaker 3 (01:59:27):
But the NFL just has no lure, has an attraction.

Speaker 2 (01:59:30):
It's unbelievable. The NBA lost Christmas now to the NFL.
They can't play games during the playoff period. They can't
play well games opposite the draft. You know what, get
draw get together, you know, Adam Silver, me would Roger Goodell,
you know, get on your hands and knees and say, look,
give me a break, give me something.

Speaker 5 (01:59:47):
Really, you take it everything away from me. We have
nothing left. Give them a break. Really.

Speaker 12 (01:59:53):
The AP reported this year that after the NCAA has
you know, started allowing athletes to profit off nil in
twenty twenty one, one hundred underclassmen entered the NFL Draft
this year, down from one hundred and twenty eight the
year prior.

Speaker 11 (02:00:06):
Who do you blame, Andy.

Speaker 2 (02:00:08):
Well, I blame NIL because if you can make more
money staying in school and you know, really coasting along,
which basically you're doing, then going to the NFL do it.
That's was nil's killing it. That's what they're doing. NL's
killing it.

Speaker 11 (02:00:21):
Fucking no.

Speaker 4 (02:00:22):
I mean, I think it's been a big benefit to
those guys because all those underclassmen that were coming out,
a lot of them were going unpicked, and so now
at least they get the chance to stay in school.
You would like to see him stay in school, cash
in on the NIL money and also get closer to
getting their degree. But at least they're getting some cash
for the efforts at the collegiate level.

Speaker 2 (02:00:40):
Degree. What's that? That's what the temperature is outside degree.
There's no more degrees for college athletes anymore. I'm sorry,
what it is?

Speaker 7 (02:00:47):
All right?

Speaker 2 (02:00:47):
Coming up next because the swelling dome and damn fire
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