Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks discuss the Aaron Rodgers Interview, NFL Draft Preview & MORE!

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Speaker 4 (00:44):
I'm good, Andy, how's everything?

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Well?

Speaker 3 (00:46):
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Speaker 5 (01:01):
Okay, be on your peas and Tuesday and it makes you.
Don't mess it up.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
I'm gonna do my very best, and Happy Easter to
you and yours.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
By the way, are your kids a little too old
for like Easter egg huts and things like that?

Speaker 5 (01:12):
Yeah, a little too old, like once they hit their twenties.
I think they're a little too old for the Easter
Bunny to come out.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
What about you?

Speaker 5 (01:21):
I mean just to chocolate bunny every now and then.
That's about it.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
I'm good, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
I figured I mean Easter and Christmas. There are two
big days. I think everybody goes to church, right, I
mean they're packed. They could sell tickets for that those days.
And it's a great day for families. I'm seeing cars
all over the place, parked in the street, people's lawns
because the family comes to visit. And I'll tell you
why it's great for family. I figured it out because
sports always has to be involved in some way. You

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have Christmas and Easter and people come and they visit,
but they don't really interact with one another because there's
football on TV. But there's no football today and Easter,
so people can actually talk to one another, right, that's true.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
True, that is true, really true, I mean very true
like that, that's a big part of the thing. Shoot, man,
it may be one of the only holidays at football.
Isn't a big part of the storyline, but it is
a part of the storyline because with Easter this year,
the draft is less than a week away, so it
still is kind of in the conversation even though it

(02:21):
won't be featured prominently to that.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
You know, it's like a big event.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
And I don't know if the NFL and the people
that run the NFL made that event real big or
it's just big because fans love. I mean, what made
the draft so big? And when you played, was it
as big as it is now. It's like people and
cities are clamoring to host the drift in Green Bay,
of all places.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
It's gonna be wol to Wolf.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
There'll be more people at the Draft in Green Bay
than the actual population of Green Bay.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
Yeah. I think it's always been popular. I think what
it does is, you know, there's something about seeing talking
about football, seeing the highlights of the next generation of
stars that are gonna take the league, beginning to have
the opportunity for everyone to hit the collective reset button,

(03:14):
and you know, hope springs eternal. After the free agency
and then you got the draft, you have a new team,
new outlook, and everybody feels like their team legitimately has
a chance to go from worse to first or to
make a general run. And football is different because it
does provide that. We've seen teams like the Washington Commanders

(03:35):
last year. They were on the outskirts. Jalen Daniels comes
and away they go, and here they find themselves in
the NFC title game. That's how quickly things can change
in the National Football League. And so the league has
done a really good job of selling hope. They put
vehicles in place to make sure that the league has
competitive balance and parody, and out of that, everybody feels

(03:57):
like they have an opportunity to go. And so that
creates the interest in the teams because you really you
never know who is going to be one of the
teams in the tournament, and if your team is in
the tournament, then it has a chance to win the title.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
I find that amazing. I tell you why you mentioned
one quarterback had changed things. They changed the outlook of
a team, the results of a team, and really and
truly it really should be basketball more so than football
was football. Really, when you think about it, there's twenty
two guys on a team, eleven on the offensive side,
eleven defensive side. Basketball, only five are out there, and
maybe one guy should have a bigger difference than in football,

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but it doesn't work that way. In basketball does their
very best to make a dramatic with their draft. They
have the pink punk balls and things like that. They
just can't match.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Up to the NFL.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
It's to be very interesting to see what happens this
year Christmas Day, because all of a sudden, now the
NFL came in there and said get away.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
They pushed them aside. Now it's NFL is going to
be Christmas, not NBA.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
Yeah, it will be interesting because the like the NFL
has kind of made that commitment to be prominent on Christmas,
and that used to be the NBA's holiday, but the
NFL decided they want a little piece of the action.
They put three games on that day. And one thing
we know about the NFL when we get down to

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that part of the year, in particularly because it's the
dash for the playoffs and everyone is coming to it,
there's gonna be a lot of interest on who plays
on Christmas Day. To me, it's surprising that they made
that move because they did basically take over the NBA's holiday.
But I'm not surprised when you think about the NBA
being king, I mean the NFL being king, and how

(05:34):
they definitely wanted to get in on the action.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
You know, I'm really surprised.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
And this really is a way out statement that it's
probably stupid, really, but I'll say it because I've said
a lot of stupid things. I'm surprised that the NBA
has not done something legally, you know, to say like
this was our day to own it in a business
sort of way. I mean, you know, lawsuit something like that.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
And maybe they will down the road.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
I don't know if they can, but you would think
that that was their day and now all of a
sudden they're ready. He is going to go down the crapper.
They really will. And speaking of the NFL. Speaking of
the NFL, I mean, here's a guy that just won't
go away, and I hope he does. He's a Hall
of Famer, but between the years, there's something wrong with
this guy. I'm talking about Aaron Rodgers. Okay, and maybe
this is the last time we talk about the guy.

(06:16):
Maybe he's going to retire. I don't know. But he
met with the Jets and their coaching staff and the
general manager the other day and he said that the coach,
Aaron Glenn, went rogue on him. I want them to
make sure I knew what the word rogue meant. Okay,
I couldn't spell it, but I found out it's rogue,
and I see rogue is dishonest.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
How are the Jets dishonest to Aaron Rodgers? They say
they want to move on from the guy. That's basically it.
And honestly, Aaron Rodgers has still not made a commitment
whether he's going to play or not play. You cannot
hang a team like that. You're either going to say, yeah,
I want to play, that's where my interest is. I
want to continue my career, or I'm going to hang
it up. I mean, you are putting a lot of

(06:54):
other people, coaches, teammates, teams in general on the hook.
You gotta say either A or a. You're either in,
You're either out right. You can't do that. You can't
be waddling back and forth.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
Yeah, and that's the problem with Aaron Rodgers when you're
a team, he wants to operate by his own rules.
And even though I am a fan of granting stars
some some some special privileges, right, that's that's kind of
a part of the deal. What I'm not a fan
of is allowing one person to hold the entire team hostage.

(07:29):
It is selfish, it's egotistical. It's something that is really
really hard to overcome when you're trying to build a
championship team. Yet he continues to show everybody that that's
who he is. And shame on the Pittsburgh still is
if they're really locked into him and letting him kind
of hold them up on their process from building the
team the right way and kind of grandstanding man, it's

(07:52):
never going to work. And I think whatever happened in
that meeting with the Jets where Aaron Glenn and management
told Rogers that he was going to be a part
of the team going forward, I applaud them on that,
because there's no way that you can implement your own culture,
build your own team when you have someone like Rogers
kind of holding up the process by the way that

(08:14):
he acts, and he can plead the victim and he
can talk about like, oh, whate is me, he's been wrong,
but he's responsible for the way that some of these
teams treat him because he is so out of pocket
when it comes to the way that he operates within
the context of the team. Yeah, so the Stellers are
holding up their team building plans for him. Good luck
to him, because it'll never work. It won't work short term,

(08:38):
it won't work long term because he worries more about
himself than he worried about his teammates in the organization.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
And it can't work like that in the league.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah, it's funny because you talk about the Steelers is
hanging up pretty good. I give kudos to the Giants.
I mean, the Giants has screwed up big time of
many things, including Sa Kwon Balk. That was a big booble, okay,
but at least the Giants took his advice. In March,
they said the hell with you. They withdrew from signing
him and they got Russell Wilson.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
They just moved on. I mean, they're not gonna wait.
He either yay or ay, and that's it.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
But Aaron Rodgers said, and this is what he said,
now you know, we're not putting words in his mouth.
He said he is still undecided on his future and
he didn't rule out the possibility of retiring.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
This is what he said that last Thursday.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
So again, you can't put teams in limbo like that.
You cannot do that. If a team wants to build
build around you that you play, you gotta make a decision.
I mean, if he retires, final, if he doesn't, Okay, fine,
and I love this. This is really and I use
the term hutzpah when he says this. He said he'll
take He's really to take ten mil. What will need
to take to I'm willing to take ten mil? You

(09:43):
will need to take ten million dollars. But I mean
you played the game. You hear someone say that. I mean,
how agatistical?

Speaker 6 (09:50):
Is that?

Speaker 3 (09:50):
No big deal? I'm willing to play this. Yeah, I'll
take ten million dollars. No big deal.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
Yeah, No, I mean it goes just beyond me that
he continues to these things, and no disrespect to him. Look,
he's a gold jacket guy. He's a Hall of Famer.
He did a bunch of wonderful things throughout his career.
He's one of the best to play during his era,
and people are recognized that, but I'll say this, man,
I don't think he's been a great teammate throughout his time.

(10:17):
And I think it's really really hard for a team
builder to build around a team that's led by a
quarterback who always places himself, his ego, his actions above
the team. It runs counter to what we talk about
in team sports. And even though pro sports are different
than the mythical team sports that we talk about growing up,

(10:40):
there's still a big part of that foundation that exists
in team sports. When you're a kid that continues to
exist as a pro and when you have your best
player or your quarterback, you're leader of the team, not
fully in the circle.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
When it comes to it, it's a problem.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
And I'll say this about Aaron Rodgers talking about he
still contemplating retirement.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
If you're thinking about retirement, you're retired.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
If you're if you're going into almost man and you're
still thinking about retirement, you shut it down because this
game demands too much for you to kind of play
with your emotions about whether you're in or not. Either
you love it enough where you do all the prep
work that you need to do to go or you don't.

(11:27):
You have to walk away, because what happens is when
you're halfway in halfway out, either you're not going to
perform to the level that you could perform, or you
can get hurt because you're not focusing locked in. And
I am worried with Aaron Rodgers that because he's not
locked in, it's not going to be a good performance
for him. Again, no matter how much talent you put
around him, he is not going to be able to

(11:48):
perform at the level that people are customers seeing.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Now, I want to get personally with you if you
don't mind, okay. Number one, he mentioned the term retirement. Okay,
and I get it. You know when you mention that,
I mean to tinue mind you're thinking about on the beach.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
You don't want to go to practice anymore. It's in there,
and you want to retire because maybe the body is hurting.
You don't want to go through those workouts anymore. You
have enough money, you could just go out into the sunset.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
When did you feel that way or did you ever
feel that way?

Speaker 4 (12:15):
When did I feel that way?

Speaker 5 (12:17):
I felt that way in the middle of a preseason game,
my last season Battle of De Bay Raiders Niners. I
remember being about to go on the kickoff team to
cover and the first time I've ever thought about, man,
I don't, man, I don't know. I don't know if
I don't well, yeah, I don't, man. I don't want

(12:38):
to get hurt like I don't know if I really
feel like wow. And whenever you begin to lose some
of that invincibility where you begin to think about like
outcomes as it relates to that, you're already gone.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
You can try and hold on, but you're already gone.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
Because to be the gladiator in the arena, you have
to be all in and really be locked in on
doing whatever it is that you need to do. And
when you begin to have those thoughts, it's an issue.
And I will say this about Rogers, He's contemplated retirement
for a while, but to be this late in the game,

(13:15):
it's an issue.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
I would say this. I don't think it's the only sports.
I mean, people in our profession. You could tell. You
could hear talk shows when guys are so called mailing
it in. They're not giving one hundred percent. You know,
you turn the radio on, you turn on the app
to hear the show. You know, these guys are getting paid.
We are getting paid decent money. Go out there and

(13:37):
do the job, all right, don't come in there off
the street and just start talking. And I hear somebody
shows I click it right off. Let me tell you
why I don't need to turn on the radio out here.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Who do you think is going to win that? Come on?

Speaker 6 (13:49):
Really?

Speaker 2 (13:49):
I mean, do your work.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
You're getting you're getting a good salary, Do your homework.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
You go out there, and here's the question. If I
was a leader in this business, I would tell a
group of people, you know what. I'm not going to
tell you how to do it, okay, but here's the key.
Would you listen? That's the key, right, Would you listen?

Speaker 3 (14:08):
You know, think about what you're doing, and then go
home and say to yourself, hey, you know I'm in
my car when I turn this on, when I listen,
when I click it off. But that's another story for
another day. Let's talk about Aaron Rodgers. He says he
was disrespected by the Jets. I don't know how he was.
They want to move on. As a matter of fact,
they're disrespecting He's disrespecting them by saying I don't know
if I'm going to play or not. I mean, come on, really,

(14:29):
don't hold me up, don't put me in limbo. I'm
either going to be a quarterback or not. That's the
end of the deal.

Speaker 5 (14:35):
I mean, that's it. Either you in or you're out.
And I think he's been dispectful to the Still is
to drag this out. They have the decision to make,
and putting together team is more than just playing fantasy
football a I'm gonna just plug numbers off the.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
Board and put this together.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
There's legitimate planning in terms of how's the process of
us building our team gonna play out. If they're still
unsurging with the Still in terms of whether Rogers is
going to be around or not, they can't fully commit
to maybe thinking about the draft in one particular way.
Right if he's there, they can think about it in
a certain way, like, Okay, here's what we can do

(15:12):
with the twenty first pick. Do we want to move up,
move down? Do you want to get a star player?
Or now is there someone for us to get that
can push us over the top If he's not in. Okay,
now we're got to think about the quarterback position. Do
we feel like once worthy of being selected at twenty one.
If that's not it, then is there another one? So
it just changes your dynamics and it's hard to live
in both worlds, the Rogers in the Rogers out world.

(15:34):
It's just hard to do and so to me, it's
a selfish move. And for a franchise that has six Lombard,
it's a franchise that has been like kind of one
of the lights on the heel when it comes to
the National Football League in terms of the way they
do things, the tradition that they bring, what it looks like,
what it feels like when you see the stealers run
out the tunnel.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
To me, it's.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
Disrespectful to a franchise like that. But it's not the
first time he's done it, because he did it in
Green Bay, which is a look a brand name franchise.
This is what he does and when you get in
bed with him like this, this is what you're dealing
with the entire season.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Have you ever seen a player like him? Do you
have you play with someone like that? I mean, it's
even more than an ego. It's like, you know, I'll
do it my way and if you don't like it,
you know.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
Too bad. It's different when it's a position player. I
haven't seen a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Would you say Lebron is like him? Would you compare
it to Lebron James, Nah?

Speaker 5 (16:29):
Because I think no. I think ultimately Lebron is about
the team. Le Bron has his own thing right, and
he's extra. And I'm saying this fully acknowledged that like
stars get certain privileges. I understand that, and I'm okay
with that in approach. I understand that. I've seen that firsthand,
the way that Jim Kelly was able to walk around
Buffalo and the way others are. It's different Hall of

(16:52):
Fame quarterback. So I've seen him operate it. I saw
Brett farr and for all the things that Aaron Rugers
talked about Brett Farv and what he didn't do, I
would say that he he's even worse than what Brett
has done, because Brett hild the team hostage for a
little bit. But it's a different it's a different way
of going about it. I mean, Rich Cannon, I've seen others,
but no one to this lovel nobody, and I haven't

(17:14):
seen anybody operate like this.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
I'm with you and everything he does has to be
done through the media. I mean, he's on with that
clown from ESPN all the time, and he gets paid
to do that. And I compare him to Tom Brady,
tom Brady never went public, Tom Brady, tom Brady's life.

Speaker 5 (17:30):
Yeah, but I'm okay with like Aaron doing all of
those things, Like I never hate the player, and in fact,
I love McAfee and the platform and all those things.
What I don't like about what Aaron does is one,
he always plays the victim. Two he's used his platform
to subtly shade teammates and coaches in those things, and

(17:50):
he understands the power of that brand and he uses
it and then he walks away like what So I
don't like that, And I would prefer someone that is
more aggressive than passive aggressive in their approach, like just
shoot it straight man. If you don't like something, just
say it. But the subliminal things, the underhanded taxes in

(18:12):
which he kind of puts people on blasts, I hate
that because I think it just makes it very, very
hard for the people that are in charge of running
the team to run the team. And this is what
I say when he talks about the Jets, he likes.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
To blame everybody else. He didn't do that. The Jets
hired all his buddies. They brought Random.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
Cobb, Alan Lazard, any and every Green Bay Packer that
he deemed to be a good fit. They brought them
in and it didn't work. So look, man, I appreciate
you looking out for your boys. But they did everything
wrote out of the red carpet DeVante Adams they acquired
in the trade. They did everything in their power to
make the Jets a piece of like easily built for

(18:53):
Aaron Rodgers, right, and he didn't deliver.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
You're exactly right.

Speaker 6 (18:57):
You know.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
It's funny big get too by Aaron Rodgers of what
he and what he's doing.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
And then I look at Luga Dancik.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
I mean, basically, it's almost the opposite, because he just
goes out there in places. He's an all star, he's
a hell of a player, and then all of a
sudden he's getting like reamed by his former team, the
Dallas Mavericks. I guess they're using that as an excuse
why they traded him. And I kind of felt bad
for Luca because he's really keeping quiet. But the Dallas
Mavericks are just going crazy just they're talking bad about him.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Right now, let it go. The trade's over. You did it.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
I mean, I don't think it was a great trade.
It was kind of a terrible trade. And the fans
are still balking about that trade. It's amazing. I don't
think they would have real if they would have realized
what would have been the net result with the fan
base and what they're doing now, I don't think they
would have traded Luca.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
Really maybe, And I'll see this right because the Luca trade,
there's been a lot of piling on, like we continue
to talk about it from the Dallas perspective to Elithing.
Like when the trade was made, everyone can blame Nico Harrison,
the general manager. But a trade like that doesn't happen
unless ownership wanted the trade to happen. There's no general

(20:02):
manager that operates in a silo without having to have
long conversations with ownership on what they're doing.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
To me, everyone was talking about Nico, but I firmly.

Speaker 5 (20:12):
Believed that he's being the fall guy for a move
that ownership wanted to make because ownership, in my mind,
didn't want to pay Luca the money that was coming
up with the Supermacs, and they also didn't want to
be beholden to Luca as the leader of the franchise. Now,
they're always three sides to every story, right, there's the
maths side, Luca's side, and then there's the truth and

(20:34):
the truth lies somewhere in between. The MAVs talked about
Luca being difficult to deal with the times they talked
about his waiting whatever, and they could deal with some things,
but when you're talking about the kind of money they
were talking about, like three hundred plus million dollars, man,
you want to hand that kind of money to someone
who's gonna be the model citizen and make sure that
your team goes because once they make that money, they

(20:55):
have the power. So to me, yeah, they could have
gotten more back from the Lakers in those things. But
if we're talking about culture and organization and how you
want to operate, you got to make the move and
you got to stand in and right now, Nico Harrison
and the MAVs have to stand in it while it
appears to be tilted in the Lakers' favor, time or
tale if it changes.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
And so they're just going to hang in there and.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
See yeah, and speaking of the NBA.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
I got to ask you this, did they really and
truly need eighty two games and then have playing games
to determine the champion?

Speaker 2 (21:26):
I mean, really, I get it.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
At the bottom line's money, more games play, more arenas
are being filled. They want to sell tickets.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
I get it. But I mean, come on.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Really, you want to clean up the game, you want
to clean up the sport. I mean, honestly, Ratings are down,
the game is a lot different than it used to be.
People are not looking anymore. I think college basketball to me,
I think it's passed by the NBA right now.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
I really do.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
And I think to play eighty two games and then
go into a play in to get into the playoffs,
I don't think it's good.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
I don't think it's healthy for the game. Maybe I'm wrong.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
No, no, I actually like it.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
I think the play in has created a lot of excitement.
I think the thing with the NBA, it's like, yeah,
the eighty two games, there's a bit of a lull
that can happen. But I'll be honest, man, since the
beginning of the week when we need to play and stuff,
it's been exciting to watch. I will tell you I
am a fan of the Miami Heat, so to watch
them as a ten seed make their way in it
was exciting.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Doesn't mean anything.

Speaker 5 (22:16):
No, they're the a seed playing against the number one
seed Cleveland Cavaliers, so they're probably going to go down.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
But it has.

Speaker 5 (22:22):
Created some juice and some energy, and in fact, I
would love to see them extend their play and stuff
to revolve around how they.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
Do the number one pick.

Speaker 5 (22:31):
Maybe rather than the lottery ball the lottery balls. Let's
take those last teams, those last four teams, those last
eight teams, and let's have a mini tournament. Because you
talk about the entries, we feel like the lottery is rigged.
Well while we're simultaneously having these playing tournaments, like why
don't we do this play for one and you know,
the tournament for Cooper Flag, Let's say let's have these

(22:53):
four teams kind of play and figure out who is
really worthy of being the number one because we don't
like tanking, we don't like the way that looks. We'll
make them earn the right to be the number one team.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
I like that. I like to write that down. I
like that a lot buck, Thank you very much.

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along here we're gonna have asked Bucky in about eight
nine minutes from now, let's talk about retired numbers. Your

(25:16):
thoughts about retired numbers? Should they do that after a
player passes? Should they do that? Maybe if he goes
to another team. What if he plays for more than
one team? Could he have a retired number on several teams?
How does it work? Tell me about retired numbers and sports?
What's the and how long should they wait to retire
a player's number.

Speaker 5 (25:39):
I prefer my players get their flowers while they're alive,
so I think you should as soon as you're done,
depending on their level of impact you want to reward them.
There should be I would say, a set of standards
or stipulations that are established by the university when you
think about retiring a number, special circumstances should be able
to add to it. For instance, like at Carolina, I mean,

(26:04):
Carolina basketball is crazy. The only way that you get
your number in the rafters either your Wooden Player of
the Year, you are a consensus All American, or you've
done something ridiculous that puts it up there. I can't
remember if it's like a three time All acc but
it is a extremely high standard to be able to

(26:26):
go in the rafters. And so that's what I'm used
to it. At North Carolina football is very similar. You
had to do something like that player of the Year,
unanimous All American, Heisman Trophy winner, something like that to
go us been there. But the standard should be extremely
high because that's what you want. Like if we're talking
about immortalizing someone putting their name in the stadium forever,

(26:52):
even eliminating the number from rotation, man, that player has
to be an elite player, someone that is special and
almost irreplaceable when you think about.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
And I would have to think they'd have to do
for more than one year, right, I would think sow
it what.

Speaker 5 (27:09):
It depend is because if they say like player of
the year, like if you win the whatever your sports
award for best player in the sport, you have to
do that or you have to be a consensus All American,
meaning that everybody viewed you as an All American.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Okay, so apparently at Colorado University, if he played season
or two, all you need to get your number retired
is having your pop as the coach, all right, because
Travis Hunter and Shador Sanders will get their Jerseys retired
Hunting number twelve Sanders number two.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
And there's been some pushback over there.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
And look, they're only going to be the fifth and
sixth players in the one hundred and thirty five year
history of football at Colorado to receive that honor, So
to me, there's going to be a lot of pushback
over there. These two guys are great players, there's no doubt.
I mean, Travis Hunter is a generational player. He may
play both ways in the National Football League. But Chad Brown,
who played for the Buffaloes, he's a Hall of Fame linebacker.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
He was on social media.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
He said, if the players from the national championship team
have not received such an honor by default, this action dismisses, diminishes,
and for new generations of CU fans, erases their greatness.
I would never minimize the impact of two and twelve.
There are amazing players, but this timing is poor. The
decision to retire numbers is based on the discretion of
the Colorado Athletic administration and the current head coach. I

(28:23):
would think this is all on the coach's decision. It's
all on deone, right. He decided to retire the numbers.

Speaker 5 (28:31):
Yeah, So here's my thing, right, So I hear all
of the Buffaloes and no disrespect to the Buffaloes for
what they've accomplished in the past, and all of these things.
I think the vichriold goes to Shdur Sanders, not Travis.
You can't say anything about Travis Travis Hunter not deserving

(28:53):
to be in the Ring of Honor, to have his
jersey retired. Heisman Trophy winner, first Team Academic All American,
the first time it has ever happened in sports. You
never had a Heisman Trophy winner and a first team
All Academic All American. Like, he's that He's gonna be
top picking the draft, so he's worthy of being that.
Just on that alone, he's worthy of having this stuff.

(29:14):
Whatever shre Der Sander is like is the main one
that's driving the conversation. And part of that is because
he is so polarizing. But let's talk about shr DRIs
Sanders because buddy of mine posted this on Facebook just
talking about the Saints. Like, he shattered one hundred, one
hundred records at Colorado. He will go down as the

(29:34):
greatest quarterback to ever wear the uniform in Colorado history.
He is the most accurate they're talking about, like maybe
the most accurate quarterback to play in college football in
two years, in his two years at Colorado, Like all
the numbers that he shatowed because they brought up Cordell
Stewart and everybody else. Like the numbers dwarf what those

(29:54):
guys accomplished. And I know people talk about the thirteen
and eleven record, but what they don't talk about is
like the team was one and eleven when he stepped in.
They won nine games the last year he was there,
and those things. And so if there are other guys
that need to be celebrated or whatever, cool celebrate them.
But what I would say, if you're a buffalo man,
don't knock one to lift up the other. Make a

(30:16):
push to put the other guys in there. Look, I
love Darren Hagen. You can put Darren Hagen in there.
You can put Eric B. Enemy in there. But remember
Eric B Enemy had some transgressions on campus that made
it hard for him to even get a job back then.
You know so, and I love eb He's a friend
of mine. But I'm just saying, so these people that
they're talking about, who's the great Buffalo that we're missing.

(30:38):
I'm just saying, like, just tell me who's the great
buffalo that we're missing, that's not their names, not emblazon
on the stadium, that we should be talking about.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Well, I would say this, I don't think there's a
great buffalo out there that we're missing. I would think
that the factor is that a they only played a
year or two and two the record was not up
to standing of maybe someone who had the number on retired.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
I think that's the key. What wins this year? Should
say they won eight games? Right they had?

Speaker 4 (31:05):
They won? They won nine games this year.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
So we're saying that everybody whose number has ever been
retired they needed to lead a national championship team, because
in every stadium, every team hasn't won a national title
and they haven't won significant games. I thought it was
more impact on university and team than anything. I don't
think we can deny their impact on the university, the
acclaim that has come to the university, the recognition that

(31:29):
has come to the university since those guys arrived on campus, no.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Doubt, no doubt about that, And all this talk would
go away if Deon Sanders wasn't the coach and obviously
it's just some playing in the quarterback position. But I
think that there's a lot of envy. There's a lot
of hate towards Deon.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
There really is.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
I mean, I think the coaching fraternity, and they'll never
admit it. A lot of the college coaches out there,
more more than half of my will have to say,
do not like Deon Sanders the way he acts and
the way what he has done, what is accomplashed because
I think they wish that he would fail.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
I really believe that. I think they'd like to see
him fail.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
Oh and like this is all a pushback on that,
Like that's what it is. Like it has little to
do like if you like Dion, you rock with Dion.
If you don't like him, you're always gonna find ways
to knock him. But I just think like all of
this stuff that is coming out about, like the retirement

(32:25):
and who's this and who's that, and everyone cares about it. Like, look, man,
no one cared about Colorado football two years ago. Nobody.
We didn't talk about him, we didn't see him on TV. There,
there were no one cared the level of stuff that
we've seen over the past two years in terms of
everything National TV Games. Uh, the admissions are up black

(32:48):
black enrollment is every All of these things are up
because these two guys came in with a wave of
others that sparked some change. We can debate it like
people can debate about it and those things. They may
not like it, but I understand why the ad and
the head coach we want to emblaze those kids put
their names in the stadium.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
I understand it.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
Now to fight for the others, Yeah, that can be
talked about. You need to put those other guys in,
like whether he from Salam, I mean not you from
some rashon Salaam, Heisman trophy, want all those other guys
like put them up there, like Darren Hagen put it
up there like whatever you see it Like, those are fine,
But I don't think you should knock one to try

(33:28):
and lift up the other.

Speaker 6 (33:29):
No doubt.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
I got one final question about this. You talked about
North Carolina and the jerseys that are hanging in the raptors.
The hall of fame situation. Is that done by a
committee or the athletic threat to and or a coach
or together they say we want this guy in the
Hall of fame because I think in Colorado, I honestly
believe that Dion put a stamp.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Honestly, I want these numbers retired. Boom. That was it.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
I don't think there's a committee or there was a
vote on it. I really don't think there was. Not
that I care. But I think just just the way
it happened at Colorado probably so.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
I mean, he has a lot of sway. I mean,
you just paid fifty million dollars to retain it. Normally
you're trying. You're in the business of trying to do
things to make your coach happy, and so if that
would make him happy as part of the negotiations, then yeah,
man put the names in lice, right.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
I mean, to me, I don't think the players care.
I really don't. I think the media cares, and know
the coaches care. Other than that, I don't think anybody
really cares.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
I really don't.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
Yeah, and the alums care. The alums care now or whatever.
But then I would say, like alums, all right, like
put your money where your mouth is, like you care.
Make sure you donating money so you can have a
seat at the table.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
If you're not donating.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
Money and doing this, then you're just annoys in the crowd, right,
you know. But like as this works, it's a moneyball business.
You gotta have money. If you put money back into
the program, you're making contributions. You're actively helping the program
in a non monetary way. But you are devoted to
uplifting the buffs. Yeah, then you have significance. Say but
if you've been away from a university for thirty or

(34:58):
forty years and now you're bitching and moaning because certain
your teammates the stuff names on your life, well that's
an issue. Like it's gonna fall on Deafiars. Money talks.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
You're exactly right, money talks. That's the way it is.
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Speaker 2 (36:16):
I love the music. It's kind of like dramatic. Here
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Speaker 3 (36:18):
Now, Bucky Brooks, how fairly do you think Aaron Rodgers
was treated by the Jets this past week?

Speaker 5 (36:26):
I think he was treated fairly. Whenever you break up
is not going to be kind. I think when he
met with them, they wanted to make sure that they
told him face to face that they were moving on.
And however it comes out and never was going to
appease him, but I think they treated him fairly. They
gave him everything that he could have wished for as
a marquee cre agent.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Okay, you kind of touched on this early on, but
maybe you could expand a little bit your thoughts on
the NBA play in games.

Speaker 5 (36:52):
Love it, Love the intensity, Love all of having to
earn your way into the postseason, even though you're playing
for a long shot spot seed, eighth seed, and the
odds of you winning, and that it's tough. I just
love seeing these, asking Pete, I thought the intensity made
for a better TV product.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
I'm really so.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
You know you've changed my mind on that right now,
because I thought, like, while you're playing eighty two games,
you didn't make it.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Sorry you didn't get in, but you know why. It's
like a last guest, but cha, every everybody deserves a
second chance. So maybe you turn my mind around on that.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
All right.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
The NFL drafted Thursday night is bigger than the UFL
title game.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
All Right, maybe that's dumb, but why is that?

Speaker 5 (37:32):
What do you say, what's bigger than the The NFL.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Draft is bigger than the championship game in the UFL.
I mean, why would a draft be bigger than a
championship game in the same sport. I don't get it.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
Well, I mean one of the UFL is the spring league,
and so people are still coming around to it too.
The NFL dwarfs everything. It outrates the playoff games or whatever.
The draft is a big deal because the NFL is
king and we like, look, they are the masters at
pedaling hope. The draft is the beginning of the hope
season because now we have free agency. Than the draft,

(38:02):
you now know what your team is going to look
like going into the season. It leads you to be
more optimistic that your team can turn it around and
get it done.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
And I'll combat that by saying, yes, you're right, but
there's a draft in every sport and it's not as
big as any other sport except the National Football League.
I don't get it. I really don't. But you know,
kudos to the NFL and what they've done marketing wise.

Speaker 5 (38:24):
I mean, they look, they mastered it. They mastered that,
and it's worked out for him, So I dig it.
You know, it's worked out, and they've been very intentional.
From Pete Roselle, Paul Tagmybe, Roger Goodell, they understand what
the product.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Is, no doubt about that. Okay, we speaking of the draft.
Why are mock drafts so popular? I don't get that
at all. I don't do a mock draft. I don't
know why no one would care my mock draft period
many yours.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
I would care yours.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
I mean they would, I'm your TV, NFL network, things
like that, but no one would care about mind. So
why do people waste their time and do Mark Drevis?
And why are they so popular?

Speaker 5 (39:05):
They're so popular because everybody believes that because they run
fantasy football teams and they've had success, that they can
run an NFL team. It is a way that is
the NFL that's kind of fed it to create buzz
and excitement, and everybody likes to be able to tell you,
I told you so, I told you that this guy
was gonna be good, and he's good. And so it's

(39:27):
created this little cottage industry where everybody believes that they
can do what they see, like some of the executives do.
They believe that they can pick a team and put
together championship winner.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
All right.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Now, the NCAA approved the rule changes to comeback players
faking injuries I'm just curious to coaches institute this and
tell a player to go down even if he's not
injured in a game.

Speaker 5 (39:51):
And these sometimes things happen where you may inadvertently instruct
a player to take ane to slow the pace down,
like things have happened before home fields.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
There's a little gazemanship to it.

Speaker 5 (40:01):
So yeah, it's happened.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
There we go.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
All right, it's the top five and Bucky Brooks has him.
That's so much more right here, Fox Sports Sunday next.

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Speaker 5 (41:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (41:46):
Man Brown too excited about it?

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Let's go all right, you got to be excited about
the draft.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
I know that.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
I want to I want to go back a little
bit and talk about this at NCAA rule that they
approved the changes to combat players faking injuries. How serious
is that that players faking injuries?

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Why would they do that?

Speaker 3 (42:03):
I mean, and why would a coach tell them to
do that for a possible timeout situation?

Speaker 5 (42:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Slow the game down, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (42:10):
Like, if the other team has has it going there
in a good rhythm and a tempo, sometimes you will
instruct a player to take a knee for a minute.
And what that does is it disrupts It.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
Disrupts the rhythm.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
It allows you to have a pseudo timeout to be
able to kind of gather the troops and get them going,
and it allows you to kind of reset and refocus.
And so people don't like it, but it happens. It's
been a part of it, and if carefully scripted and done, Yeah,
it's gonna be impossible for them to legislate some of

(42:43):
the stuff out of it.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
No doubt, no doubt. And there's only this new rule
and was approved just the other day.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
If medical personnel enter the field to evaluate an injured player.
After the ball is spotted by the officiating crew for
the next play, that player's team will be charged air
time out. If the team doesn't have any timeouts remaining,
a five yard delay of gay penalty will be assessed.
I think coaches will be willing to accept the five
yard penalty really if they really want to slow the
game down.

Speaker 5 (43:10):
I mean, do you accept a penalty or you'll be
smarter about the way that you deployed those tactics or whatever.
Like people call it dirty pool and those things. But look,
sometimes sometimes you do what you have to do by
any means necessary. And if that means having a designated fall,
then you have a designate fall guy that can take
to you know, take the knee to give us an

(43:32):
injury timeout so we can reset it. I mean, it's Look,
it's something that has happened in the pros forever. I
remember being a part of it. We talked about it.
It was one of the things that was carefully scripted
than we did.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
When you say it was carefully scripted me to have
a time out of the coaches, Hey, you know what
fall down to the next play?

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Make believe you have an injury. The coach would tell
you that in the huddle.

Speaker 5 (43:52):
I would just say that, like there was a signal
that we could send from the sideline that would let
us know that we needed someone to take a knee.
And normally it's a position of debt where the backup
is not significant lore and you take a knee, you
handle it, and then you're able to go forward. So yeah,
we've had we've had those things done before and it's
been effective. You know, in moments when the team has

(44:12):
it going and you're overwhelmed to slow the game down
because when people operating at a fast tempo, there's no recourse.
You can't sub you can't get you guys out your
D line. They're gasping for air and you look, you.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
Just out of sources.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
And so sometimes you have to have someone take a
knee so everyone one can breathe too, we can get
the right adjustments handled to give us a chance to
slow down to drive.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Wow, that's great.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
So we'll see what happens in college football next year.
Well if really, if it works or not. Now I'm
going to say this, I've talked about this week in
and week out.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
What you do NFL dot com. I love it. It's tremendous.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
And if if you're a football fan, and if you're
a Bucket Books fan, I mean you go to NFL
dot com.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
He writes these columns every single but I think this
week you outdated yourself. You really did.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
It's Bucky Brooks Top five twenty twenty five NFL Draft
prospects by position by position. So let me ask you this,
how hard was it and how long did it take
you to do this? This is almost like a term paper.
This is really like a book.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
It's red. You could have sold this. Really How hard
was this.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
To do for you? Well, it's all going in process.

Speaker 5 (45:25):
You know, you start compiling the data, like as soon
as the regular season ends. You began to kind of
peruse and look at the list and began to kind
of assess, all right, who do I need to look
at those guys? And then you start doing it by position.
You start if you're going to rank ten, you got
to look at somewhere between twelve to fifteen per position
to begin to have a true assessment and value in

(45:46):
those things. And as you put together the first iteration,
I think the first one was in February, right before
the combine where you have the list going out, and
then you have another one post combine, middle of pro
day workouts, then another one after the circuit is kind
of done. This is like the finishing You're putting the
finishing touches on it, all the conversations that you've had,

(46:08):
all the tapework that you've done, weighing the options when
it comes to looking at workouts from prospect A to
prospect B and how does that impact anything, all of it.
And then you want to make sure that you don't
have group think. So even though you've heard all the
other people that do what you do talk and you've

(46:29):
heard some of your buddies in the league talk about it,
you still want to main true to your own opinion
and assessment of things. And that's why you stand firm.
You want to be able to be You want to
look back in two to three years and be proud
of the names that you had at the top of
the board, because ultimately, what you're saying is, here are
the best players in the league. Here are the best
players in the draft class, and regardless of where they go,

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and that is important in terms of fit environment all
of that. Here are the players that expect to play. Well,
let's rank them one if Okay, and.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
This is all you I mean, obviously you watched some film,
you told the scouts, but this is basically all done
by Bucky Brooks. These top fives in these position, right,
these are your picks.

Speaker 5 (47:10):
Yeah, these are These are my picks. And this is
the way that I do it. Because people are asked,
is this how you expect them to come off the board,
how they can be picked on draft night?

Speaker 4 (47:19):
No, So that's the demistry. Like when we talk about.

Speaker 5 (47:22):
Mock drafts, mock drafts are how I think the draft
is going to go. How those teams are going to
pick those players based on.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
How they view them.

Speaker 5 (47:30):
My list is how I viewed the list, and so
some of the names that you see at the top
may not be the first ones to come off the board,
but they are the players that I believe are the
best players based on whatever my opinion, how I looked
at the tape and my projection.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Okay, so let's do a quarterback because everybody loves quarterbacks, okay,
and then the highest pain and then as a quarterback goes,
that's how your team goes. You don't have a good
quarterback obviously you're gonna be watching the playoffs with me
and you on TV because you're not going to make
the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
Okay, you had shoulduor Sanders number one? Okay, the best
quarterback or the best player? Why is Shodoor Sanders picked
over cam Ward of Miami? And I asked this question
because Tennessee has the first pick, and if I'm Tennessee right.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Now, I know I need a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
But you even told me this that Brian Callahan, the
coach of the Tennessee Titans, compared I guess Joe Burrow
to He loves Joe Burrow, so I compared him. What
didn't he compare it to Shudoor Sanders?

Speaker 5 (48:29):
He did? He said the superpowers are the same in
terms of touch, timing, anticipation in those things. Here's what
I'll say my opinion Shuder Sanders versus cam Ward. Cam
Ward unquestionably has more talent and more tools. Mean today,
if we're rating just the talent and the tools, what
he brings to the table, how hard he throws, how

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far he throws it, all of that he has that
better athlete.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
Cam Ward just a better overall talent.

Speaker 5 (48:57):
But in terms of playing the game can be harder
to tell me that cam Ward plays the game better
than Shu Sanders. Sir Doris Sanders is one of the
most accurate quarterbacks that we've seen in college football, whether
going all the way back to his time at Jackson
State to what we did at Colorado.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
He is accurate.

Speaker 5 (49:11):
And the two things that I've always heard is this
has been drilled in my head by all the great
quarterback coaches, offensive coordinators, whatever, Mike Homegrin, John Grutin own down,
They've always said this. The things that you look for
in the quarterback position accuracy, decision making, toughness. There's no

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doubt about his accuracy because I sat there and told
you that he completed over seventy percent of his passes.
We saw him drop dime after dime after dime at
Jackson State in Colorado. You can't question this tough and
except we saw him get beat to a pump at
Colorado over the last two years. And then when it
comes to the judgment of decision making by and Lawrence,
he is an excellent decision maker. So if I'm staying

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true to what coaches have told me, that's why I'm
gonna put Shure Doris Sander's over cam Ward. No disrespect
to cam Ward being the more talent the player, the toughness,
to the tenacity, all of that. But to me, Shuldur
Sanders plays the game the right way, in a way
that has played successfully over the years throughout the history
of the National Football League.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
Okay, so I'm hearing what you're saying, and I'm sure
there's a lot of people in the National Football League
that feel the same way. So why would Tennessee not
pick Shuder Sanders out of most of these mock dress
which mean really nothing but everybody's print pointing a finger
to Tennessee saying they're gonna pick cam Ward as the
first pick.

Speaker 5 (50:30):
He's more talented, he has more talented, he has a tool.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Okay, so you told me there's a good chance Thursday
Night will here to call cam Ward to Tennessee first pick.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
Yeah, I think that's a done deal.

Speaker 5 (50:41):
And the way people are talking, you may hear Jackson
Dart's name before Schuder Sanders, but that really that's fine. Yeah,
I mean, that's that's how people are talking in those things.
Everyone's not all in on the Sugar Sanders experience. Whether
it's the personality, whether it's the game that drives them crazy.

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But my thing is when I look back in three years,
I believe that Shudur Standers is going to play at
a high level. And I'm confident that just based on
like those tenants that I told you, like when we
talked about a bank on quarterbacks with like smarts, like
in terms of accuracy, decision making, toughness, those things will

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never lead you astray.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
And so that's what it is.

Speaker 5 (51:25):
And I've compared Shadur Sanders to Jered Goff, not saying
that him by himself can single handedly uplift and transform
a franchise, right environment, right personnel around him. He can
play the Pro Bowl level and lead his team to
a Super Bowl. So whenever you think of Shadur Sanders,
think of Jared Goff, think of success am phause that

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golf have had, it might coincide with the successes am
philus that Shudur Sanders could have in the league, depending
upon which team he lands with.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Okay, let's look at the jeff.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
The order right now in the trade, which I don't
think will happen is Tennessee Cleveland and the New York
Football Giants. Two of those three teams need a quarterback.
I mean I would have to have said, maybe a
week or two ago, that Cleveland needs one too. But
with Joe Flacco in the fold right now, I guess
Joe Flacco is that guy, at least as a band
aid situation until the future and they get someone else.
Am I correct on that? So I would say Tennessee

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goes with cam Ward. The New York Giants probably gets
you Door Sanders, and it looks like.

Speaker 5 (52:24):
Cleveland's not so fast in New York.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
Now, I'll tell you why I think you do a
Sanders would I think New York would love him.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
I think he'd fit in with.

Speaker 5 (52:36):
Maybe maybe he would, But maybe they have their eye
on a pass rush abdul Carda, and maybe they feel
good enough about their quarterback situation with Russell Wilson and
Jameis Winston that they take the best player available as
opposed to rush it on a quarterback. This is a
front office and head coaching staff there in the last
year of their look sitting squarely on the hot seat.

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The last thing that you can do is wait on
a rookie quarterback to save It never works, It never happens,
It never happens at the end of a ten. You
take a ricky quarterback, he saves them. So to me, yeah,
I don't think they take the quarterback. And I'll say this,
Shuder Sinnis could be in for a long night on
Day one because if he gets past New Orleans at nine,

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and the buzz coming out of that building is that
they're not going to take him at nine. The next
team that could pick him, if we don't have Tracy Thing,
Pittsburgh steal's at twenty one. There are not many teams
that are out there looking for the quarterback. We talk
about it on TV and radio because it's great fodder,
but the league is like, yeah, we're taking the best

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player available, and so you can throw these other names up,
but they don't rank as top twenty prospects, and so yeah,
it could be a long night for Shudur if he
gets past the Giants and the Saints.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
Interesting, I mean, I think now maybe I'm mistaken. I
thought that with Flat though and Cleveland, they're gonna go
for the edge Russia, the kid out of Penn State,
still Carter, I mean, really not.

Speaker 5 (54:02):
They're gonna take the wide receiver dB Travis Hunter. They're
gonna take him. They're gonna let him play both ways.
They see him as a wide receiver first, dB second.
But yeah, they're more They're more into Travis Hunter than
anybody else.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Well, I mean, look, I think that Travis Hunter probably
is the best player in the draft, the most talented player.
And look, I think that he and we He has
mentioned this publicly. He wants to play both ways, you know,
And it looks like what I've heard from Cleveland. Their
general manager basically said the other day that they may
probably even let him play. But I mean, you can

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stemy the guy. He wants to play both ways. Let
him play both ways. Is that a coaching decision or
is that something that the player goes over and says, Look,
you're gonna draft me, but if you do, I want
to play both ways.

Speaker 5 (54:50):
As an organizational decision, because when you take someone at
the top of the board, you want to have a
plan for how you're gonna utilize them. How are we
going to get the best out of Travis Hunter if
we're gonna play him both ways? How we're going to
accomplish that without wearing him out. We want him to
be playing at a high level going into the postseason.
Does that mean we need to limit his snaps on
one side of the wall, Maybe play him in the package.
Can we make him a full time starter but not

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play him full time? Whatever that looks like. That has
to be talked about. There has to be discussed, and
you got to put it on paper because you want
to stick to the plan once he walks in the building.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
All right, let me get back to the quarterbacks if
I can, because that's what everybody wants to talk about.
We talked about Kim Wood, we talked about stand this.
Let's talk about this kid, Jackson Dart from Old miss
who's not getting a lot of love for some reason.
And why is that? And is he going to be
picked in the first round. Well, he is getting a
lot of love because there's some people that have him ranked.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
To hear the shod rh Sanders.

Speaker 5 (55:41):
When you listen to the buzz and the conversation, there's
some people that have fallen in love with him. They
love the athleticism, they love the arm talent and those things.
The thing that people have said they kind of liken
him a little bit to Jalen Hurts and those things
in terms of being able to do the athletic stuff
from run around and do it. The issue that you

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have is Lane Kifvin's offense is one where everything is
set up for the quarterback. It is a I mean,
he scripts the winners like no other. Can Jackson Dark
come out of that system and do it on his own?
To date, we haven't seen anybody that Lane Kifvin has
touched in that system have success in the National Football League.

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So that's a part of like trying to figure out,
like how is he how is his game project into
the next level in a different system. But make no mistake,
he's talented. He's good enough, he's worthy of being a
first round pick. And if you pick him ahead of
shooter standers like that, that's your thing. But there's a

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lot of people, there's buzz that he could be the
second quarterback to come off the board.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
You know, it's funny you mentioned it because I've seen
I've seen some mock dress a game which means nothing,
and I don't even see him in the first round.
I don't see him in the first round. And that
may be because some of those teams in that first round.
I'm not quarterback hungry. They don't need quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
The teams that need the quarterbacks Tennessee, Cleveland, the Giants
and that's basically.

Speaker 5 (57:08):
In right, and the Saints. Yeah, those are the four teams.
That's why if it doesn't happen at the top of
the first round for those quarterbacks, could be a long day.
It could be bottom of the first round, top of
the second round before they hear their name call. Jackson
Dart has a lot of love in the streets. There
are a lot of people that are rooting form, pulling form,
pining form. You've heard the conversation in the media, and

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I am a believer that where there's smoke, there's fire,
and so the more conversation we hear them, the more
that someone is talking inside the building. But also know
this a couple of years ago, when Kenny Pickott was
coming out, what was all the conversation, Oh, Malik Willis
and doesn't Ritter?

Speaker 4 (57:45):
These guys been whatever? And then on.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
Draft night, the league showed us what they really felt
about those quarterbacks and what I will say about these
quarterbacks and how I really feel about them. And it's
a nuance to it. But all of these graded as
a bottom of the first round talent. And when I
say bottom of the first round. The meaning on that is,
when you give someone a bottom of the first round grade,

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you believe that they can be a starter, but you
don't view them as a.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
Top ten grade.

Speaker 5 (58:14):
When you give a top ten grade, this is someone
that you view as a perennial All Pro gold jacket
whear down the line. That's how you view them. They
should be transcendent talents. They should be reserved for the
elite of the elites. When you pull my column on
the top fives, there's another column that I put up
on Friday that has the All pros Pro Bowlers and

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Red Stars, and that's a column that designates to tears,
who are the elite players, who are their players that
are really really good? And then who are the ones
that I'm willing to put my paid check on that
they're gonna be stars.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
They're gonna be really good players.

Speaker 5 (58:48):
So that's how it goes. But yeah, all these quarterbacks
bottom of the first round, top of the second round
talents and so if they drafted at the bottom of
the first round, that's really how the league viewed them
as solid starters, but nothing especially when it comes to
what they're bringing.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Yeah, it's funny you mentioned that New Orleans needs a quarterback,
and certainly they do. But the mock draft that I've
seen has them picking a quarterback and Will Johnson of Michigan.

Speaker 5 (59:10):
I mean, everybody does it now, remember Andy, like everybody
can mock draft, everyone can do it based on what
they think. But people he may not know. They may
not have known that a Derek Carr has a serious
injury and he may not play this year, He may
not play again. It may be over for the veteran.
They need to think about the quarterback of the future,
Kellen Moore's coming in. Does Kellen Moore want to pick

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his own quarterback to be the face of the franchise
or does he want to rock with what they currently
have on the roster. All of that matters when it
comes to it. So we don't know. And the great
thing about the draft we won't know until they get
on the clock.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Let me leave you with this, okay, because you've been there,
done that. You probably have been in the war room
when the draft picks have made for various teams.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Am I correct? Okay?

Speaker 3 (59:53):
So you look at Kelvin Moore, you look at these
offensive coordinators, and he knows he needs a quarterback. He's
going to go in there and fight for his life. Look,
we got to draft the quarterback. We need one, and
all of a sudden, the other coaches come in into
the I guess the defensive coach, the head coach, and
then maybe the personnel guy, the general manager, and they
don't take a quarterback. That to me could ruffle a
lot of feathers.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
You've seen that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Maybe maybe there's feathers that are rough with long time
hate between coaches on the staff if that guy is
not picked for the need that they want, right, have
you seen that?

Speaker 5 (01:00:25):
Sometimes? Sometimes, I mean sometimes that can happen, but more
times than not, man like, it's an organization decision. So
the head coach you do to manage. They get together,
they talk about the players that they like, and normally
what you would like is you want to bring in
a player that the coach feels great about because he's
gonna coach O Mari, He's gonna try and get the
best out of him. If you give the coach someone
that he doesn't like, that he doesn't love as a prospect,

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he ain't gonna do a whole lot extra to get
it out of them. It's just you're setting the kid
up for failure. So it's important that they're in lockstep.
The other thing you're killing Moore, You're looking at this class.
Do you really believe that there's a quarterback in this
class that's worthy of you taking, that is worthy of
you hitching your wagon to them. If you don't believe that,

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you don't take one. Don't take one to take one
because if you take one early, the fan base is
going to clamor for them to start playing. So make
sure the guy that you take you believe in. And otherwise, man,
you're setting yourself up for failure. And also, here's the
other thing. When it comes to the quarterbacks, everyone loves
this hitting gym, like, hey, I'm gonna find one. I'm

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gonna discover one in those things, Andy, I can only
tell you over the last, over the last. Since twenty fifteen,
at quarterback, the guys that have been drafted nineteen Pro
Bowlers have been first round picks at the quarterback position.
There have only been four quarterbacks that have earned Pro
Bowl recognition that were drafted from the second to the

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seventh round over the last ten years. So when everybody
tells you're like Oh, well, maybe they can find someone
in the second round. The odds are not. There's only
been one second round and that's been appro Bowl. That's
Jalen Hurts. Wow, that's it. Like, that's it. So when
people talk about it, either you take your quarterback in
the first round or don't take one because the odds

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are you're not going to find a quarterback outside the
first round.

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coming up at about nine ten minutes from now. But Bucky,
I want to throw some quarterback names at Yeah, I
know you tell me where they may go?

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Will they make it? Are they good? Are they bad?
This kid Tyler Shuck Tyler Shuck, Yay, Nay San Diego State.

Speaker 5 (01:04:21):
Who townership from Louisville's a seven year player, so he's old.
He's gonna be twenty five years old. He's been on
quite the odyssey with injuries in those things. Uh, he's
talented enough to make it, but I'm saying, nay, I
just like the odds are against it, you know what
I'm saying. Like he has prototypical talent in those things.

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But he's played seven years, but he's only really been
a one year starter.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
So I'm gonna go now, Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:04:46):
Jalen Milrow interesting man, He's a coin flip and yay.
Only in the right environment. There's no one who has
his tools and his ceiling four three unbelievable arm to
in terms of deep ball, but accuracy is an issue,
like there's some some throws that you just can't explain

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where they're going.

Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
He's interesting, though, because he's so talented.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
All Right, these are not first round guys, that's for sure, right,
Riley Leonard.

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
Interesting good college football player?

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
I say, nah, Okay, Kyle McCord.

Speaker 5 (01:05:26):
My guy, got a little scouting crush on him in
terms of his game to me, right system, Yes, I
think he's a yes as a long term backup, fringe
starter in the league.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
And last but not least, Will Howard.

Speaker 5 (01:05:42):
Still some love on the streets for him, but I'm not.
It's like he's fine. I don't, I don't. I don't
see anything. Maybe career backup.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Career that's not a big job, a bad job if.

Speaker 5 (01:05:54):
You can get it. But at some point, at some point,
you got to play. So in those moments when he
has a chance to play, Kenny, can he give him
enough to be Tommy DeVito. If you around until until
you can, you know, have a legitimate chance to develop.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
If you could get a job like Ryan Fitzpatrick's career backup,
you're in pretty good shape. You make a lot of
money and you're not gonna get hurt.

Speaker 5 (01:06:17):
Boy, it makes a lot of money because he started
games and that was enough for him to show that
he could he could play a little bit, and that
kept him around well over a decade.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Sure did.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
All right, we move along now, because I talked about
defending this and then we talk about it. We're talking
about the nil name image like this, and we both
need well, we.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Would admit that it needs some tweaking. Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
Are you surprised with the quarterback of Tennessee the situation
over there, Nico, he was holding out for more money, Tennessee,
lets him go.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
I gotta believe that's not going to be the last
of it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
We're gonna see a lot more of the holdouts as
soon as camp starts. You're gonna see a lot of
players holding out for more money prior to this college season,
don't you agree?

Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
Yeah, you see some of that stuff. I think you're
continue to see it.

Speaker 5 (01:06:59):
And it's unregulated and until you get regulations on how
it is, or until you get contracts that are visible,
transparent where everyone can hold people accountable. Yeah, I mean
you're gonna see some of this. It's unfortunate for Nico.
It's unfortunate for Tennessee. The way that it went down,
it is certainly not advisable. If I was advising Nico,

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I'd probably been saying, hey, man, just finish out the
spring and then go right up the spring game. Don't
do this because he's created a bit of a narrative
around him that everyone is going to hate him no
matter what. He is the poster child of the greed
and selfishness that people want to apply to the NIL era,

(01:07:40):
and so it's unfortunate for him. But he's gonna have
to play his way out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Yeah, there's no doubt about that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
And like I think there's gonna be some coaches are
gonna say, I don't know if I want to get
a guy like that. He seems to be somewhat selfish
to me. So we'll see what happens over there. But
going forward, the NIL has to be improved. There's no way.
Players obviously should get paid. I agree to that, and
they will get paid, But how do you improve it.
Here's I think one way to improve it, and maybe
it's buyouts. Buyouts do not restricten coaches from going from

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one place to another. Do you just put them on
a contract. It's a fee pay to the employer if
the employee decides to leave for another job before the
end of his contract.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
They do with coaches all the time. The fee, obviously,
he's agreed upon by both parties during the initial contract negotiations,
and it's secure, it's legal. Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
If a coach wants to leave for one job or another,
it's on him to pay the buyout. He can pay it,
or the school that hires him can pay it. But
someone's getting paid, he's going to get paid. Then they'll
have to do the same thing with the players. Don't
you agree, get him a buyout and there won't be
that much movement. I wouldn't think.

Speaker 5 (01:08:47):
I think that's something that's coming, something that is probably
on the horizon that you know, to protect yourself. You know,
if you're going to sign these deals, you have to
have some protections. If you're the university and for the player,
you have to have some guarantees when it comes to
the money. Everything's in negotiation, and hopefully as you get
guys that are really true agents when it comes to

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representing these players, Guys that know how to negotiate contracts,
Guys that understand the legal leagues and the verbage and
the language and all that. Yeah, you hope that some
of these guys can find a way to protect themselves.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
To me, look, it happened about ten years ago. Jim Utcawain.
He wanted to leave Colorado State. He wanted to take
the coaching job at Florida. His buyout I read this
was like seven million dollars. Colorado stated, uhuh, they're not
going to give in. Okay, So Florida played Colorado State
three million, gave the Rims of Colorado State another two
million for a future guaranteed game, and Malcoway paid. He

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paid the remainder of the buyout.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
All right. I don't know if these players are going
to do that, but I think that's the way to go.

Speaker 5 (01:09:48):
I mean, there's gonna be some opportunities where you have
to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:52):
So I get it.

Speaker 5 (01:09:53):
I think it makes sense, and I wouldn't be surprised
to see more of it happen like that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
So if in fact they do go the buyer, who
is the governing body who's gonna make that ruling? Because
I think the nc double A, to be honest, is
somewhat powerless right now, aren't they. I mean, so does
the ncublea come down with it. He didn't say, Okay,
we're gonna have NIL, but we're gonna have buyouts now
in the NIL deals. How are they gonna do it?
I don't understand. I don't think they have any power anymore.

(01:10:20):
We will have to come from the individual conferences. What
if the Big ten or Big twelve whatever, What if
the Big ten decides to have buyouts and the Big
East doesn't want to have buyouts?

Speaker 5 (01:10:30):
Yeah, it'll be interesting, man, Like this is this is
one of the more fascinating things that we can talk about,
like just how you set it up, how you go
about doing it, how you protect yourselves, all those things.
It's gonna be really important that you put some protections
in place to ensure that everybody's able to get what
they need out of those contracts.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
No doubt.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
I say, treat players like coaches, all right. I talked
about defense, How do you defense? Something like this? And
we talked about Luga Dancik the other day and he
said that the Mavericks and the fans that they're upset.
He's upset the way they're talking about him. And Adam Silver,
the commissioner. You talk about a guy who was bought
and paid for by the NBA owners, and obviously he
works to serve the NBA owners to no doubt about that,

(01:11:14):
but he basically, oh man, He says he understands why
the Mavericks fans are so upset with the Luca trade. Really,
you think he really understands? Do you really understand, Adam?
Come on, these people will pour their life and their
soul and their money into season tickets to see a
guy who'd pull on his back that team in Dallas
into the playoffs last year, and they trade the guy.

(01:11:36):
You say, you have the audacity to go public and
say you understand why fans are upset. Please, Really, you're
better off not saying anything. Keith the piehole closed. Really,
I don't understand why he went that way. It's unbelievable.
I don't remember the last trade. I'm just gonna maybe
stick to the NBA. Even when Lebron free agency left

(01:11:57):
Cleveland to go to Miami, there wasn't that much to do,
I don't think as there was now with this Luca trade.
This trade is like ongoing. These fans are like they're
picketing the standing outside the arena in Dallas.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
It's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:12:10):
I mean it is kind of nuts. I mean, it's going,
but they look, they need to be able to let
this go.

Speaker 4 (01:12:16):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:12:17):
Right, it is what it is. There's no bringing it
back like this is what. Look, they made a decision
and so you just got to rock out with decision.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
Look, Adam Silva said this. I get the fans passion.
I understand whether Dallas Mavericks are so upset and the fans.
At the same time, he also kind of defended the
ownership group.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
I get it. I mean, he says time will tell.
I get it. He's being politically correct.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
But he has to because he serves at the request
of ownership. That's what he was because as a commissioner
of the NBA, obviously Adam Silva cannot directly criticize one
of the teams for a personnel transaction, and he won't
and he didn't. But I think for him to do
this publicly made him look foolish. There's no doubt about that.
It really did. All right, let's roll along right now,

(01:13:08):
Bucky brooks Andy Furman. We are Fox Sports Sunday on
Fox Sports Radio. There's only two ways to go, yay
or nay, and we're gonna do that for you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
Next all right, yay rn A, coming right up.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
It's about what thirteen minutes before the top of the hour,
that would be eight am on the East coast.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
And he's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
Where you are live from the tire rat dot Com studios.
Yay RNA and we have someone new today doing it. Yes,
Brianna is gonna do.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
It, so let's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Ya on it?

Speaker 6 (01:13:37):
Okay, rack those brains, gentlemen. These stories need.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
An ass I think we need a ruling on this.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
It's yay or nay?

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Can you handle it? Come on?

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
Yes, your queue, come on now, jeez, put the food down.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Okay, anyway, Okay.

Speaker 7 (01:13:59):
To increase popularity, should the NBA align itself with a
sponsor to pass out fantasy cards just like the NFL
andy yay or nay.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
You know what, it's not a bad idea.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
I think they should go to like a chain like
a McDonald's or something, maybe like Fantasy Teams, because I
think fantasy really has upped the NFL over the years,
and obviously gambling makes the NFL so popular, So maybe
if they could do something like that with the NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Not a bad idea. I would say yay.

Speaker 5 (01:14:28):
All right, Bucky, Yeah, I'm with you. I would yeah,
I would say yay. I said, like, anytime you can
bring the fantasy element into it, it is going to increase
the opportunity. So yeah, did you do it right?

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
And you would love that, Brionna, because it's at McDonald's
and you go there six times a day.

Speaker 7 (01:14:41):
I actually go there twelve times a day. There you
go every lea, yes, every three hours.

Speaker 5 (01:14:46):
Oh.

Speaker 7 (01:14:47):
A new second tier US women's soccer league is launching
next year, and word has it that has attracted numerous investors.
Will it work out? Bucky Yeah your name?

Speaker 5 (01:14:59):
Yeah? I think yeah, I think it will work out.
I think anytime you have the interest that we're having
right now in women's sports, it always gives it a
chance to work out. And that people are investing in
it suggests to me that, like, more people are interested
in it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
So yay, you know, the way it was asks and
the way you ask that question, I'm gonna have to say, Yay,
it's gonna work out, and I'm happy it's going to
work out, because when it works out, that means more
people get jobs, you know, and a lot of girls,
a lot of young women are playing soccer.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Let them get a job. That's what they love, that's
their lives. Work, not to play. But if you ask
me if we need it, I'd say nay. But is
it going to work out?

Speaker 5 (01:15:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Why not?

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
There's enough players out there to do it. And anytime
you could create more jobs with people, I say, go
for it.

Speaker 7 (01:15:40):
So yay, of course, Okay, so Real Salt Lake Utah
Royal Soul to x the ex Utah Jazz owners for
six hundred million dollars. If you had that kind of money,
would you Andy?

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
Hell no, hell no, six hundred million dollars for a
soccer team in Utah? I mean, come on, everybody in
Utah's going to church, to go to the Mormon cava,
the quiet over there in Utah. They're not going to
soccer games. Really, are you kidding me? Honestly? Six hundred mil?
What would you do with six hundred mil? You'd buy
a soccer team?

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
Really? I buy an eye?

Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
I would, I would, I would buy it.

Speaker 5 (01:16:21):
I've had, man, the biggest thing we've seen the evaluation
of pro sports teams. Absolutely, that'd give me an opportunity
to go from six hundred mil to a bill, So
I'm doing it. I'm all in, Yeah, all in, I'm
all in.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
Wait a minute, you're telling me you'd make more money
buying a soccer team than buying an NFL club or NBA.

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
I don't think you can get in.

Speaker 5 (01:16:40):
I don't think you can get in like what the
Boston Celtics sold for six to seven billion dollars, the
Washington Commanders six or seven billion. Yeah, right now, I
got to cast my eyes towards a franchise that I
can get. It kind of reminds me of when everyone
was going for McDonald's and people were buying up subways
because it was a cheaper franchise. Feet I'm gonna have
to go to Subway and sling lot of things until

(01:17:00):
I can get to the love working by McDonald's.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
I like Subway. Wait, don't put somebody down. I do
like Sobay.

Speaker 5 (01:17:05):
I like the upping them down. I'm saying it was
a cheaper it was a cheaper franchise fee.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
Well, I'm a cheap guy. That's why I like Subway.
But I do like Subway. And you know what, speaking
of souboy, they used to have that five dollars twelve
inch to twelve five dollars foot long. That's gone away.
They got to get that back again, the five dollar
foot long, because.

Speaker 4 (01:17:23):
I get the full dollars foot I don't think. I
don't think I'd have.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Half for lunch and half for supper. That's all I
used to do.

Speaker 4 (01:17:29):
I don't think he's coming back.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
Sorry, didn't need to go off on a tangent design.
I'm sorry. Give me to enatorialize a little bit, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (01:17:38):
Alrighty. The average cost of an A's baseball ticket in
Sacramento this season is one hundred and eighty dollars, the
highest in the majors. Add another twenty five dollars per
game minimum for parking, and the A's will leave in
a year or so for a new new stadium in Vegas.
Do you support this team as like a Sacramento Sacramento resident?

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
Andy, Hell no, nay, nay, nay. Are you kidding me?
They're carpet baggers, that's who they are.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
And it's in like a fourteen thousand seed Monor League ballpark.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
Are you freaking kidding me? Really?

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
Well, one hundred and eighty dollars, you know, I don't
know what's worth six hundred million dollars for a soccer
team or one hundred eighty dollars to see this team
in the age which are terrible where they're like six
and eighteen in baseball right now. It's a crime. It's
a crime what they're doing to the people a Sacramento.
They're using them as a stopover, stopgap until they get
to Vegas.

Speaker 5 (01:18:31):
One man, this is greed at the highest level. This
is ownership from the age, just taking advantage of the situation.
I'm not with it. The fact that they're gonna be
in Sacramento for two years before going to Vegas.

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
To me, it's just a money grab.

Speaker 5 (01:18:44):
And the fact that their tickets are dead expensive after
you robbed Oakland of the A's.

Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
Yeah, this is all bad, right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
What do you think, Brianna? What do you what's your opinion?

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
Instead of asking questions all the time, come on, get
off the fence and have an opinion, will you please.

Speaker 7 (01:19:00):
I spent like forty dollars on an A's ticket on
their last, like know, ten games in Oakland, So I
would never ever do that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
I would never really.

Speaker 7 (01:19:10):
Yeah, we actually flew up there, Monsey and I we
flew up for the day and we went to the
last one of the last games there.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
I'm going to ask you so many questions. Let's ask you, hey, Bucky,
let's ask Carselman a question. You know she's real big
behind behind the paper and asking questions. Okay, let's ask
kind of questions. You know, you know, you get put
your your life on the line right here. What about
six hundred MILLI if you had it? Would you buy
a soccer team? Would you?

Speaker 5 (01:19:34):
No? I would not?

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
Oh I would not.

Speaker 7 (01:19:38):
I mean like I would buy like a venue or
something like I'd put money in like crypto like arena.

Speaker 4 (01:19:44):
Oh my gosh, what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:19:49):
Then like you know, then concerts and stuff and.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
You get money back by stop by stock a venue.

Speaker 4 (01:19:56):
Yes, okay, so.

Speaker 5 (01:19:56):
You can buy. You can buy, you can buy the arena.
You can buy the form known as staples.

Speaker 7 (01:20:01):
Yes, that one.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
What would you do with it? Would you do it?

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
Then?

Speaker 7 (01:20:06):
I would make money off a concerts.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Oh? You know, I'm sorry I asked you to quit.
I really am. We're gonna tell you how we can
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Next?

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iHeartRadio app. No, we roll along right now, and we
got a touch on the NBA playoffs because I know
you're a big NBA guid buck. I know I know
you are, cot Tell, and I don't know why I mean,
I don't know. Everybody's telling me that the Pistons are
going to beat the Knicks in this series. Really, I mean,
they're lucky they made the playoffs. The Knicks are just
a better ball club that had they shut them out

(01:21:28):
in the fourth quarter. It was a twenty one to
Zhering run that had and the Bruntchin's tremendous.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
I love them.

Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
I don't know how deep the Knicks could go because
they can't beat the good clubs. They can't beat Boston,
they can't beat the good teams. But I think the
Knicks got pissed the Detroit Pistons, So no.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
Doubt my mind there.

Speaker 5 (01:21:42):
Uh maybe so. I mean, there was a significant side
of the people analysts that were going Detroit over the Knicks,
and part of that was due to the job that JB.
Bick's staff has done in terms of up in their defense,
like they play lockdown defense, they're in your shirt, they
get out through. But like the Knicks may be two talented,
we saw Carl Anthony Towns kind of ball out. They

(01:22:05):
got Jalen Brunson. They still have some ballers on that team.
And you know, it's funny because everyone is on time
Thibodeau for the minutes that their guys play right. Michal
Bridge has talked about and complained about the number of minutes,
but that's what they do in New York many. They
respect people that play hard. They give their guys minutes
and it's worked for them. They haven't had significant injuries,

(01:22:27):
and so I dig it. But I think some of
the rush to get behind the Pistons is really a
show of support for what J. B. Beckerstaff has done
to the team, because they went from not being able
to win games on the money wings to being a
team that makes the playoffs right away with J. B.

Speaker 4 (01:22:43):
Beckerstaff.

Speaker 5 (01:22:43):
That's a testament to him and the staff and what
Trajan Landa, the general manager, has done to kind of
get them back on track.

Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
Now what they were like fourteen games a year ago,
now they're in the playoffs. I think it's tremendous. He
should have been coach of the year. Kenny Atkinson got
the Coach of the Year with the Cleveland Calvs. And
here is the irony of the whole thing. I mean,
Kenny Atkins who was in Brooklyn with the Nets. I mean,
did they not know that this guy was a talented coach.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
Really, I mean, uh.

Speaker 5 (01:23:05):
No, I mean I think yeah, yeah, I think he
got caught up in the thing that didn't they bump
him out for Jason Kidd, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:23:12):
Yes, yes, yeah, I think they bumped him out for that.
And he had done a really good job with the
nets and those things. So hass to him because it
was kind of embarrassing when they moved him out, and
then he originally thought he was gonna go to Charlotte
of State and Golden State. Continue to learn and work
besides Steve Kerr, and you've seen the improvement that he's
done with Cleveland. Before Cleveland was really good and look, JB.
Berkestaff did a really good job of making that team

(01:23:34):
respectable and gritty and a playoff contender.

Speaker 4 (01:23:37):
They had ninety nine wins over the last two years
when he was there.

Speaker 5 (01:23:39):
But Kenny has taken them to another level. Now we'll
see how they perform in the playoffs. They got Miami
coming up, and Miami's going to test him just in
terms of the grind that they put on teams. But look, man,
he's a good coach. And I just looked at this thing.
Jeff Tigue was tapping him up in terms of like

(01:24:00):
how he improved his game when they were together.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:24:02):
Spencer din Widdie talked about the same thing in Brooklyn. Uh.
He has a way of helping guys improve uh individually
and ultimately it ends up having to collective play better.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
A couple of little nuggets I want to throw with
you on the playoff situations. Number one, Uh, the bunks
get drilled by the Pacers yesterday. Not good for you.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
Honest, he had no help whatsoever. I mean, honestly, you
gotta believe that he wants to get out of there.
I mean, this is a critical for Giannis. I mean,
the guy's a great player.

Speaker 5 (01:24:27):
Why does he have to go?

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
Where's he gonna go?

Speaker 5 (01:24:31):
Why's he gotta go? Why can't he stand and be
a part of the building.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
They gotta give them support. I mean, he has no
support whatsoever. I mean, come on, really, there was nobody
on offense to help him out yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
So that was embarrassing. It really was.

Speaker 5 (01:24:44):
I just I mean, like, yeah, get I get that,
but maybe, like instead of him leaving, maybe they can
get some people to come with him. I don't like
stars having to jump around like chasing titles in those things.
At some point you got to stick and pick. You know,
you got to stick and pick your way through the
briar parents and and get and get through there. You
got to get through to the other side. And so

(01:25:05):
it would be a great story if he's able to stay,
they build around him, and then they get back on
track by doing it. Do it. I don't think he
needed to chase it though. He shouldn't have to chase it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
Kevin Durant. You listen to Bucky Are you listening to them? Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:25:17):
I mean, like, let's let's think about man. Okay, let's
be honest about Kevin duran He won his two titles
in Golden State, but we don't think they would have
won as as he would have won as much standing
Okac with him and Russell working it out, he's been
on a basketball odyssey since he's left there, Golden State, Brooklyn, Phoenix.
He's gonna go somewhere else. I just think he would

(01:25:39):
be better to just say, hey, man, I'm gonna stay here. Okay. See,
we're gonna build this thing up, right, We're gonna find
a way to get it done.

Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
I'm with you, I mean, really and true they would
have won Oklahoma City. I mean, he just he just
jumped on the carousel there and just want than another
was a ring and he got it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:25:53):
But if you were to look at all these playoff
matches right now, I think the most critical one is
the Lakers. They gotta win, have to win right now,
and they got drilled yesterday by the Timberwolves. So I
think that's one of the critical series right now. Maybe
Rockets Warriors will be a decent series right there. They're
playing today, Calves Heat. I think the Calves are going
to take the Heat, Celtic's magic. I mean, I think
the Celtics may win it all again. And the thunder

(01:26:15):
Grizzly that's not a bad one either. But I think
the critical one is the Lakers. Is a big year
for the Lakers. Gotta win, gotta go with Lebron. I
would like to see you the win. I don't know
if they're gonna win. It all about they got to go.
They gotta get pass Minnesota.

Speaker 5 (01:26:27):
Gotta get past Minnesota. That's what we're saying right well,
I mean, look, they didn't play well. Yes the JJ
Reddick was perturbed that they didn't bring the playoff intensity
and energy to the table, and so Minnesota jumped on
them and stayed on them, and now they're gonna be
in a fight to to kinda get back in track
and get into the series. The Lakers have pressure on

(01:26:50):
them only because the clock is winding down on the
career of Lebron James, like man forty plus, you can't
keep counting on him to have the kind of years
that he's having. But look, man, you bring Luca in
with him, and look, they get two basketball savants on
the court. They have to figure out a way how
to play with each other in the postseason. Austin Reason
and I have a good game. Lebron was off the

(01:27:10):
mark a little bit yesterday and Minnesota was draining three.
They got to play better on the defensive end. But
as JJ Reddick said, this has nothing to do with
the schemes and the scripts and the players. Has everything
to do with the attitude and effort. We got to
make sure that our attitude is right now. Effort is
even better. If they play hard, they have a chance
to win it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:30):
Okay, end up with the NBA, they'n I'm worthy. Then
they don't deserve any more talk the NBA, Well, we will.
I do love the NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
I would love to have seen the franchise in the
Cincinnati Louis Hill area.

Speaker 3 (01:27:42):
I really would, and I think it would be supported.
But you know, right now with the court of franchises,
I just don't know how you get that. I really
don't lest someone moves if team moves here. So I
do love it. I mean, here's the deal. I mean,
I'll turn on the eleven o'clock news on TV. Don't
even give NBA scores. They just don't because there's no
you know, it's a regional sport. If there's no team
in your city, there's no need for them to give

(01:28:02):
you highlights and or scores, and they don't. In the
CINCINNTI market, they don't. So that's basically the more high
school sports than NBA. You know, they have the high
school baseball things on this.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
So we move on.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
Let's talk something that I really like to talk about.
That's cash. The green banana is guilt. Okay, this is
about Travis Hunter.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
Mate.

Speaker 3 (01:28:19):
Can he actually break the bank if he plays both
ways in the National Football League? Can he get so
much money? Because he's gonna be like almost like two players.
And more than that, have you played with a guy
that has played both ways? And really and truly, how
come there aren't any more guys in the National Football
League that do play both ways?

Speaker 5 (01:28:39):
I think it has to do with, like, like one,
guys being set up to do it, you know, like
in terms of guys doing it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:46):
The entire time.

Speaker 5 (01:28:47):
The one thing that we saw from Travis's he did
it in college. He has a coach who was willing
to let him do it the entire time like he
let him doing in college, and so that allowed us
to see in visualize how he could do it in
the pros. There're more guys can do it. Most of
these guys that are playing in the Nation Football League
play both ways in high school, but what happens is

(01:29:08):
the two way playing ends when you get to college. Well,
if more high school guys demand just an opportunity to
be able to play on both sides of the ball,
we will have more Travis Hunters and stuff playing. And
it's funny because before we came on, I heard one
of the snippets where people were talking about the shoe
or tany comparison to Andrew Berry. The gentle mention for

(01:29:28):
the Cleveland Browns maid and reference to Travis Hunter and
thinking about it, that is probably the way that Travis
Hunter should play. When everybody thinks about the Tony comparison,
they think that Showne's out there every day hitting and
pitching every game. That's not true. Showne pitches every five games.

(01:29:49):
Maybe they will throw them in relief. Well, what you're
asking Travis to do could be something similar. I'm asking
them play every down on one side of the ball,
and then we use him sp on the other side
of the ball.

Speaker 4 (01:30:02):
That's the true Showne or Tiny comparison.

Speaker 5 (01:30:04):
So if I put him every down at wide receiver
and I use him on third down as a defensive back,
aren't we getting the true comparison to the Dodger. Great,
that's how he's playing both ways. He's not out there
on every snap gassing it out.

Speaker 4 (01:30:20):
So to me, I.

Speaker 5 (01:30:21):
Believe this can work. I believe it can work because one,
this is all the Travis has known. He's only known
how to play on both sides of the ball. You
can lighten his low by removing some of the minutes
and the snaps on one side, but he certainly can
be effective as a two way player.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
You know it's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:30:36):
I don't know what team's going to draft him, but
I think they'll be in the top four for sure.
And I hope the team that drafts him gets on
hard Knocks because I want to see him on hard knocks,
and I think Hard Knocks would be really foolish if
they don't go with the team that drafts him. Although
they're looking at teams that have not been on before
or in a while, So I just hope that a
team that has not been on hard knocks for a

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long time drafts Travis Hunter so we could see him
in preseason camp.

Speaker 2 (01:31:01):
That would be great, I think. I mean, I don't
know what their thought process is.

Speaker 4 (01:31:08):
Yeah, it'd be interesting who takes him.

Speaker 5 (01:31:11):
Look, the one thing I would say about Travis is
he loves ball and he loves fishing. Doesn't have many
Activities's not going to be super distracted. He appears to
just be kind of mature and well grounded when it
comes to what he wants to accomplish as a ballplayer.
To me, I think it's very obvious that he loves
the game. And look, he may like some of the
things that the game brings him, but he loves ball.

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And that's where it has to start. When you're looking
at prospects.

Speaker 4 (01:31:35):
Do they love it?

Speaker 5 (01:31:36):
He loves it. He lives it, and look, I'm really
excited to see what he's able to do as a
two way player.

Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
This is funny because he was asked the other day
about an NFL he limiting him to just cornerback or
just wide receiver, and he said he threatened to stop
playing football.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
It's never playing football again. This is what he told
CBS Sports last week.

Speaker 3 (01:31:54):
He says, quote, because I've been doing it my whole life,
and I love being on the football field. I feel
like I could dominate on each side of the ball,
So I really enjoy doing it. Is that going to
affect some team drafting him single and will take him?
But we really don't want to have him playing both ways.

Speaker 5 (01:32:13):
I mean, look, I think they can talk about that.
They can talk about like not wanting to play him
both ways. He really wants to do it. I think
it would be silly for not utilizing him and tapping
into everything that he could bring to the table. But ultimately, man,
that's a conversation for the coaches and the people that
make the commitment to bring him in he's too good

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to kind of leave on the side. I want to
max him out and make sure that I get everything
that I could get out of him. But you never know,
man like, it's a funny deal when it comes to it.
But I would certainly see if I could get the
most out of him and then dial it back.

Speaker 4 (01:32:47):
If I need to look.

Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
The New England Patriots and your Jacksonville Jaguars have four
and five. There's a chance you could be seeing him
in Jacksonvill. There's a chance he might be gone before then.
But there's a real chance because you figure four and five, right,
So Jacksonville's five, and basically you'll have two quarterbacks gone
by then, and maybe Carter will be gone. So there's
the three guys that are gone coming into Travis. Maybe

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he'll be picked.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
I got to be two quarterbacks in Abdul Carter, those
are the first three.

Speaker 5 (01:33:18):
Maybe, I don't know. I'm not as confident on you
as the second quarterback going in the top three. I'm
more confident that Travis is going within the top three
than the second quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
Really, h yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
I think though he said that he would retire if
he can't play two way or he's limited in that,
And look, I doubt that's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
But he's gonna get a signing bonus.

Speaker 3 (01:33:42):
I get between twenty twenty one million twenty five million
and maybe over four years. Will he get more money
than normal because he'll be a two way player? How
does that work?

Speaker 5 (01:33:53):
No, you won't get more money than normal, Like that's
part of the deal that they negotiated. Dead end and
so it doesn't change anything. How many responsibilities he takes
on and that stuff is just a matter of all, right,
he gets in. What is it going to do for
him outside of the game being a two way player?

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How is the stardom going to go crazy for him?
And I think he has a chance to be a
superstar in terms of endorsements in those things because his personality,
the way he goes about it, and the spectacular play
that he's going to put up, all of that matters.

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
Okay, let's go back to nineteen ninety six because Deon Sanders,
his coach, was a two way play with the Dallas Cowboys.
Back there, he was playing cornerback as well. And right
now with the NFL the way the NFL is today,
I would think that he'll get more money being a
wide receiver than playing cornerback because it's an offensive minded league.
It's a passing league right now, maybe more so than

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it was in ninety six. But I think they look
for shutdown corners is more valuable right now. It's a
rare commodity a shut down corner, and maybe they should
get paid more than an elite.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
Wide receiver, but that's not the case. I think if
he is a wide receiver, he'll get more money, and
if he stays as a wide receiver, he'll get more
money than he would be if he was a shutdown corner.

Speaker 5 (01:35:15):
Yeah, right now, the way that the market is paying, yeah,
he get more money as a wide receiver than as
a corner. There is this fascination with people touching the
ball in those things that leads more guys to play that.
And what you have is going all the way back
to youth level and even I mean moving up to
high school. Coaches are taking their best players and finding

(01:35:36):
ways to put the ball in their hands where they're
running back, quarterback, wide receiver. The guys who are not
up to part in that regard, they go play on
the defense side of the ball. So as that continues
to kind of move his way up the food chain.
You have a lesser athlete, a lesser player playing on
defense as opposed to a skilled, explosive athlete playing on offense.

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When you get to the pros, that's where you really
see the separation between levels of athleticism and skill talent
and those things. Younger guys at offense can jump in
and have success. Older guys can tend to struggle a
little bit as you're adapting and adjusting from that standpoint.

Speaker 4 (01:36:13):
But look, I think it's one of those things.

Speaker 5 (01:36:15):
Like with Travis, I would tell him all day, every
day that he could play longer and maybe have even
more success being a dB extensively and a wide receiver secondarily.
But there are a lot of people who are saying
I would love to just get the ball in his hands,
and I think he can come in and be a
nickelour Dom defender on defense and make contributions.

Speaker 3 (01:36:34):
I don't really care where he plays. I'm interested in
the money, Okay. I'm a money kind of guy. Okay,
and I did some research on money because I like money.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
That's what it is. Wide receiver salaries they.

Speaker 3 (01:36:46):
Exploded back on twenty twenty two, and the quarterback salaries
remain stagnant and twenty twenty one, get this, there are
only three wide receivers with contracts averaging more than the
league's highest paid quarterback. Highest paid cornerback was Jalen Ramsey
with the Los Angeles Rams, making twenty million a year,
which is really, right now, somewhat peanuts, it really is.

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And the cornerback market reached a low point after the
twenty twenty four NFL Draft, but the first time during
the salary cap era, which began in ninety four, as
safety became the NFL's highest paid defensive back.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
How do you like that? Safety? How do you like that? Amazing?

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
He's got to stay on the offensive side of the football. Really,
I don't know who his agent is, but he'll make
some good money, he really will. But honestly, the slot
position is where it is. I mean, right now, the
way and you drafted, there's runnen much negotiations.

Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
I mean there's a slot now, right, I mean, if
he gets.

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
Drafted three, four, five, whatever it is, there's like a
slot situation. That's tess The money you get in that slot.

Speaker 5 (01:37:47):
Position, yeah, I mean there's money. Everything is slotted and
all that, and he's gonna make his money on the
second contract. So the more that he can do, the
longer that he can do it, the better it's going
to ultimately be. It's one of those situations where I
want them to play. I wanted to play really well
and have an opportunity to do whatever it is that
he wants to do in the game. It is so

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unique to have a talent like him balling out. I
just want to hope he has success so we can
really appreciate everything that he brings to the table as
a two way stand up.

Speaker 3 (01:38:17):
Okay, are we going to see more players playing both
ways now because of him?

Speaker 5 (01:38:23):
It's a copycat league, so yes, we'll see more guys
trying to push the envelope. And I think, if anything,
is going to be a situation where more coaches open
their minds and say, hey man, you know, maybe I
can get a little something with these guys. Maybe I
can get a little more by putting these guys on

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the field and being a little out of the box.

Speaker 3 (01:38:47):
You know, I'm not concerned in the NFL, but you're right,
it is a copy I'm thinking, like on the college game,
will we see more college kids playing both ways.

Speaker 5 (01:38:54):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think I think most
most Yeah, I think coaches are now probably more inclined
to to be able to tap into those skills. Remember,
now here's the difference. Remember Miles Jack running back linebacker
at UCLA is I think he was freshman of the
Year on offense and defense for the Bruins. Packed to
a freshman a year offense and defense, Like why not?

(01:39:17):
You know? Now, he didn't have an opportunity to do
it in the league. But I think there are more
guys that certainly have those abilities. It's a matter of
mitigating the risks but maximizing the talents, and a lot
of guys are afraid to do it. But Bill Belichick
has done it. He took Troy Brown and used him
as a wide receiver and a defensive back. He taught
Julian Elleman how to cross train and play multiple spots.

(01:39:38):
He used Mike Vrabel as a starting linebacker and goal
line tied end. They're guys that are willing to do it.
You just got to be bold enough to do it
and have enough imagination to not only envision them playing
one side, but playing both sides, and to be organized
enough to be able to put the practice time in
to give them a chance to be successful. It can
be done. And going all the way back, people don't

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remember this because we always talk about Dion being a
two way guy. Uh, young people need to look at
Roy Green from the Cardinals. Roy Green played wide receiver
in dB for the Saint Louis Cardinals before they were
to Arizona Cardinals, and started it on both sides. A
unique player, but he did it successfully. So there's precedents.
It can be done. You have to be willing to

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give guys opportunities to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:23):
See you're talking about the guys playing on the field,
which is great because you're a football player and that's
your mindset. I'm talking about money, and what do I
mean by money. I'll go back to the college game
with the nil. I think you want to get the
most bang for your bucks. So these coaches in the
college level who are paying these guys to play, they're
more than willing to say, I'll give you X amount
of dollars, but you're gonna play both ways for me

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because you're paying for these guys. Now on the college level,
I can see it more so in the college level
next year.

Speaker 5 (01:40:48):
A lot of them, right yeah, give them their work,
make you earn it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
There you go. I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:56):
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Speaker 2 (01:42:37):
All right, Bucky Brooks, let's do this. Let's do this
right now. Let's look at some of these players which
I'm gonna throw out to you, and I'm gonna tell
you what's the best team that these teams should be
with which.

Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
Draft these guys are the best fit for these guys.
I'm gonna start with my guy. He's my favorite guy
in the draft Travis Hunter. All right, I'm hoping he
goes to the New England Patriots. I think that would
be the best fit for him. Why because the Patriots
had the worst total offense in the AFC. The Patriots
finished twenty second in the NFL in total defense. He
could help on both sides. I think he'd be great

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for the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (01:43:12):
He would be great for the Patriots.

Speaker 5 (01:43:13):
And remember Mike Rabral was a two way standout for
the Patriots back in the day, played tight end and
linebacker for Bill Belichick, so he certainly understands how to
maximize a two way talent. I would love to see
him with the Patriots. I just don't think he gets there.

Speaker 2 (01:43:27):
All right. You don't think he's here to go there?
You think it'll picked before that?

Speaker 4 (01:43:30):
Oh no, no, no, no, I think he's gone. I
think he's gone. I think he's gone. No matter what.

Speaker 5 (01:43:34):
If he doesn't go to Cleveland, I think the New
York Jist snap him up right away.

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:43:39):
See, I just you know, I just think the Giants
go for a quarterback at so in Portant. I know
they got the quarterback, but I don't think he's the
quarterback they want. And I think they want to do
the situation like the remember Kansas City when they drifted
Patrick Mahomes, they left Patrick Mahomes like there's an understudy
for a year.

Speaker 2 (01:43:55):
You don't see that much anymore in the NFL. I
think that's a good situation, right and understudy.

Speaker 5 (01:44:00):
It would be a good situation. I just don't know
if they I don't know if they have enough time
to do that. I don't know if they have enough time.
They all gms like no, I don't think either one
of them have time. I think they're tired at the hip.
They have to win. They have to win right now.
And because of the toxic like how toxic it was

(01:44:21):
in terms of like them moving on from Barkley, Barkley
going to the Eagles, in winning the decision, playing out
in front of a TV audience on Hard Knocks, it
is ramped up the pressure on them to get it right.
I don't think they can take chances like oh we're
gonna take a quarterback, the quarterback flops. I think they
got to get sure things and I don't know if

(01:44:42):
there's gonna be a sure thing for them at quarterback
in terms of their mind, what a sure thing is
all right.

Speaker 3 (01:44:48):
Abdul Carter, the Edge Russia from Penn State, I think
the best fit for him.

Speaker 2 (01:44:52):
I know you're gonna disagree. I think it's the Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 3 (01:44:54):
Why because he could line up opposite the player of
the year, Miles Garrett.

Speaker 2 (01:44:58):
I think it'd be great. I don't really can't double
Tim Garrett.

Speaker 4 (01:45:02):
Yeah, I don't disagree.

Speaker 5 (01:45:03):
I'm just telling you what i've heard. In terms of Cleveland,
I think it'd be great if you put two pass
rushes together, Like if you put Abduall Carter opposite Miles Garrett. Defensively,
you have exactly what you need. And if I'm building
my team to win the division, well in that division,
I can to defend top quarterbacks Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow.
I want to make sure I always have someone that
can make life miserable for them. Abduall Carter, Miles Garrett

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would give me those guys.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:45:30):
I've always liked the Marshall University thundering Herd.

Speaker 2 (01:45:34):
All right. I really did.

Speaker 3 (01:45:35):
Stu Iberdeen, the late Stu Aberton, used to be the
basketball coach there, and I when I was at Saint
Francis College of Brooklyn as the sports information guy.

Speaker 2 (01:45:43):
I applied for the sports information.

Speaker 3 (01:45:45):
Job at Marshall didn't get it, obviously, but I've always
been a big fan of the Thundering Herd all right,
and I think the best fit for Marshall would be
Mike Green out of Marshall Edge Russia. Why because the
forty nine is because the forty nine has lost a
lot of talent on defense. I think this kid, Mike Green,
would help the forty nine ers.

Speaker 5 (01:46:03):
I'm good with that. I'm okay real, I think yeah,
I think he would be a perfect So here's what
I believe. Everyone has a blueprint to be successful, and
it's already embedded in their history. The Niners have been
at their best when they've had a deep and talented
rotation on the front line. When you look at those
years when Kyle Shanahan has been able to get this
team up and going, they've had multiple players on the

(01:46:26):
front line that could dominate Mike Green, putting him opposite
to Nick Bosa, pair pass rushers that can get after it.
They need to get back to the formula the blueprint
that has helped him, and part of that has been
really investing in the defensive line. Having multiple bodies that
could go after it and make it happen.

Speaker 2 (01:46:44):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:46:45):
Will Johnson, the cornerback of Michigan I want mock draft
had a Nike with the New Orleans Saints.

Speaker 2 (01:46:53):
I think a good fit for.

Speaker 3 (01:46:55):
Him would be d LA raiding the Las Vegas Raiders
because I remember what Pete Carroll did in Seattle with
the Legion of Boom, and I think he's just perfect
fit for him because Pete Carroll likes those big corners,
he likes those big physical corners, and.

Speaker 5 (01:47:10):
He does like big corners. They have a need for
the position for sure. Potentially that certainly could work out
for them, you know, having him available to do it. Yeah,
it'd be nice. I mean it'd be kind of fun
to see, like what he could do defense that he
get the defense right.

Speaker 2 (01:47:28):
Uh you know that.

Speaker 3 (01:47:29):
That's it for me. I I don't want to do it.
I can't work as hard as as it. Yeah, but
more Yeah, that's it with plays because you're you're the
guru on that. I mean, you did that whole thing
an NFL doctor. My kid, I don't have the I
don't have the patience. I don't I got start a project.
I forget like you know, Brianna just told me that
you and I did a draft in March.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
I forgot I even did it. I forgot I.

Speaker 3 (01:47:50):
Did it really, But you know, maybe next week we'll
go over and Brianna, do you still have that?

Speaker 2 (01:47:55):
I just need to sit to you.

Speaker 7 (01:47:56):
And it was actually February not March.

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
I don't want it. I mean, that's whole lot ago.

Speaker 5 (01:48:00):
That's the many moves as many moons ago.

Speaker 2 (01:48:04):
But we're going to see who's correct on that the
first five picks at least, and if you're not here
next week, maybe give it the patcheck. We could kind
of talk about.

Speaker 6 (01:48:11):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:48:11):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (01:48:11):
Can I just say that you guys aren't like that
off like it's it's kind of kind of aligned with
what you're saying right now.

Speaker 2 (01:48:18):
What did Bucky have for the first five picks?

Speaker 7 (01:48:20):
You really want to go over it or you want
to be just the names? Just the names?

Speaker 6 (01:48:25):
Fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:48:25):
If you want to know, you want to be surprised
next week? What do you want to do?

Speaker 4 (01:48:28):
No, you can tell me right now.

Speaker 7 (01:48:29):
Okay, So names wise, we have shador Abdul, Carter cam Wored,
Travis Hunter, and Mason Graham's BUCkies pitch.

Speaker 2 (01:48:39):
You picked you do it first? Okay, what did I do?
You did?

Speaker 7 (01:48:42):
Cam Ward, Travis Hunter, shador Abdul Carter and Will Johnson.

Speaker 5 (01:48:50):
Saying he's staying with it. I mean, he may be right.
He may be right if it comes down to matching.
If we're talking about which names are in the top five,
it's probably a push. If we're talking about more names
going to the right homes.

Speaker 4 (01:49:02):
And he may be right right now because I think.

Speaker 5 (01:49:04):
Those first two for sure, the third win if he
maybe never know, Schud may go to the Giants. And
then did you have Campbell at four? Who'd you have
it for? Who's fortunate? Patriots?

Speaker 7 (01:49:15):
Carter and Wi Johnson.

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
I'm never right.

Speaker 5 (01:49:21):
Yeah, I don't think Will Johnson is gonna be the
top five. But maybe we'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:49:26):
We'll see, we'll see. I'm never right, Bucky, You'll get
it right. They'll have a least minute trade.

Speaker 5 (01:49:30):
I'll be wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:49:31):
However, I wanted just one last thing. I want to
run by you. These teams to me critical year. If
you're a fan of these teams.

Speaker 3 (01:49:39):
You got to be biting your fingernails right now, and
I'm going to run down the team. You tell me
if I'm right or wrong. Critical year, really and truly
for the Arizona Cordinals. Why it's year seven for Kyler Murray.
Gotta get it done. Former number one pick yet to
blossom really as a playoff caliber quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:49:56):
Gotta get it done.

Speaker 3 (01:49:57):
Arizona Cardinals, critical year, although they didn't prove from four
and thirteen last year to eight and nine. Gotta get better,
Gotta go, not deepen the players, but at least make
the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (01:50:08):
Yeah, I mean, look, I'm okay because the money's significant
and at some point you got your return and investment,
and so if they don't get it right now, then
it has to be time to kind of look and
move on and see if we can find somebody else
who can do it all. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:50:24):
Another critical year would be the Indianapolis Colts eight and
nine a year ago quarterback problems. What's gonna happen with
Anthony Richardson? Now they got Daniel Jones at quarterback. I mean,
really and truly their general manager could be on the
hot seat, Chris Ballad. I just I don't see Indianapolis
making a lot of headway, but if they don't, there
could be some heads rolling.

Speaker 5 (01:50:45):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:50:46):
Yeah, agree, I mean I'm with you.

Speaker 5 (01:50:47):
Like they took a big swing on Anthony Richson, they're
now hoping that Daniel Jones can save them and spare
them to help them get back on track. If both
of these moves backfire, yeah, it's probably a done deal.

Speaker 4 (01:51:00):
Everyone knows what it is and.

Speaker 3 (01:51:02):
Believe it or not. I think that it's a critical
year for the Miami Dolphins and TUA gotta get it done.

Speaker 5 (01:51:09):
Really no, yes, no, I mean yeah, but I think
what they Okay, here's why I say I agree with you,
and I think look read the tea leaves. They're moving
on from Jalen Ramsey, that discussion about maybe they need
to move on from Tybreek Hill. When you talked about
moving two really good players, it suggested me that you're

(01:51:30):
trying to reclaim your locker room. You're trying to take
the locker room back, and so you want to make
sure that you have the right guys uh in there
to kind of help you get it going. So I'm
kind of in agreement with you, like this could be.

Speaker 3 (01:51:45):
Am I correct here. I'm just just thinking I'm closing
my eyes and thinking about this. Coach Mike McDaniels, entering
year four, I has no playoff wins with the Dolphins.
Is that true? Has not won a playoff game?

Speaker 4 (01:51:56):
That that that that that could be true.

Speaker 2 (01:52:00):
He's in trouble.

Speaker 3 (01:52:01):
Gotta win, you know, he's in trouble in life, trouble.
He's in trouble. You know, I'm in trouble. Look, I
don't have any playoff wins, and I'm in trouble. Really,
I get in trouble all the time, Okay. And I
think the New York Football Giants they're in trouble. Really,
I mean, well, Brian Daboll's in trouble. And I think
the general manager, Joe Shane, he's in trouble, right.

Speaker 2 (01:52:21):
In trouble.

Speaker 5 (01:52:22):
Yeah, there you go, trouble.

Speaker 4 (01:52:24):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (01:52:25):
Anybody else, anybody else in trouble. You think.

Speaker 4 (01:52:30):
Of trouble though, I know, there we go.

Speaker 5 (01:52:33):
Or we'll see.

Speaker 3 (01:52:34):
We're gonna point some fingers in just a couple of minutes,
because it's almost that time.

Speaker 2 (01:52:37):
He's Bucky Brooks. I meany Firman.

Speaker 3 (01:52:39):
We are alive from the ti raq dot Com studios.
But you know what, it's never your fault. Let's blame
someone else. Why the blame game is freaking next the
blame game coming right up. It's about thirteen minutes before
the top of the eye. I remember at the top
of the hour. Right now it is countdown Brian Now

(01:52:59):
Jeff Schwartz built Grackenberger right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Don't go anywhere, listen to that show. We're live for
the tiraq dot com studios. But right now it's time
for the play game.

Speaker 1 (01:53:10):
You ruin me. It's all your fault. No, it's your fault.
What is all your fault? Maybe it's everyone's faults, the liar.
That's why there's the blame game. The blame game, let's
figure out who to blame.

Speaker 3 (01:53:27):
Yes, and today Brianna's gonna handle Blink And I want
to thank Mark Ramsey or staff guy, our technical producer,
and Brianna you did a wonderful job to Hey, thank
you for filling it for Patrick.

Speaker 2 (01:53:38):
And you're doing the blame game. So let's get going.

Speaker 7 (01:53:40):
Yes, thank you so much. You know, I know I'm new,
so it was really hard for me, but thank you
so much for being.

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
You know you've been wait, you've been in before you
that I.

Speaker 7 (01:53:48):
Was new, So I'm just saying, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:53:50):
Oh okay, new to the blame game.

Speaker 7 (01:53:52):
Uh huh. British tennis player Harriet Dart has apologized after
asking the umpire to tell her opponent Lois Boyson to
where deodorant after claiming, quote, she smells really bad. Unquote
who do you blame? Andy?

Speaker 3 (01:54:06):
I blame a lowest because she probably stinks really and honestly,
you don't want to have someone sticks. I mean, bucket.
You played the game of football. I'm sure you've tackled
pickled time and again. That smelled. Really it happened, you know,
I'm not making fun. People sometimes have an odor problem.
They disecrete these things from their body and they stik.
So Lowest get some deodorant, do something, because nobody wants

(01:54:30):
to be around some of those sticks. You know. The
worst thing is I used to go to school and
take the soub Bay to school every day, right, and
they have the thing they call the strap hanger. If
they can't get a seat, you put your arm up
there and those little hooks the straps, and you hold
your arm up there and sometimes under their armpits.

Speaker 2 (01:54:43):
It smells. It stinks really when.

Speaker 3 (01:54:46):
It's hot you're driving, you go on in the subway
when it's eighty five degrees ninety degrees in the summertime,
and the people are sitzing and sweating and you can
smell it. It's the worst smell in the WORLSDT like
rotten onions. That's what it smells like, right, Buck, I.

Speaker 4 (01:55:01):
Mean, this is unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (01:55:03):
But as someone who is a devoted yogi I can
tell you that there have been times I've been in
yoga class and I've been like, woh, okay, a little right,
But as someone who always showers before and after yoga class,
I can understand her frustration. But it's the tact, the

(01:55:23):
taxing with you bring that to the opposition, But I
understand it.

Speaker 3 (01:55:27):
Huh okay, Wait, has anybody ever told you like, excuse
me like you smell?

Speaker 7 (01:55:34):
No, I just ask you, Yes, I understand. Thank you
so much for including me. I'm a w NBA commissioner.
Kathy Ingover announced before the w NBA Draft on Monday
that the league has assembled a dedicated task force for
combating hate and vitriol directed towards players and teams. Who
do you blame for this, Bucky?

Speaker 5 (01:55:55):
I think fans are out of pocket. I think fans
are out of control. I think they believe that because
they pay whatever amount for tickets, that they can just
say anything and everything. But they're hiding behind the comfort
of knowing that I'm in the seats and the players
are on the court. But they would never say those
things to people face to face in civilian life. And
so I think people need to understand, like, it's okay

(01:56:16):
the heckel and jackal and pour for your team or whatever,
but some of the derogatory comments that are directed at
the players from the fans stay out of pocket. And
they need to be careful because when guys walk up
on them, all of that bad stuff, that bad boy
image that they project, it goes out the window when
the player really calls their blood right.

Speaker 3 (01:56:34):
And it's not so much the players and the fans.
I think it's social media too. And I'll tell you why.
Who do I blame. I blame the commission Kathy Engelberg.
Don't go public with this chase. You could create more
of a problem. Just get it done, clean it up,
and do something. And if you do something by maybe
tossing a fan out of the arena, of banning that
fan for life or something like that, then all of
a sudden you might see these things. Stop But the

(01:56:55):
fact that you're mentioning in public shows everybody that there's
a problem and you'll worried about it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:00):
No, just take care of it. You know what?

Speaker 3 (01:57:03):
Marvin Lewis said this, and I keep on repeating it.
I see better than I hear. Show me, don't tell me.
I see better than I hear.

Speaker 5 (01:57:12):
Alrighty.

Speaker 7 (01:57:13):
The NFL has proposed new rules for teams thinking injuries.
Who do you blame Andy.

Speaker 3 (01:57:20):
Well, obviously you probably blame the players for doing it,
But I think the players are probably told to do
it by coaches.

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
You know what, I don't have a problem. Let him
do it.

Speaker 3 (01:57:27):
It's fun. Let him do it. I mean, you want
to stop the flow with the game of time, So
do it. What's the big deal? And you know what
these new rules right now? I'm not going to change
a five yard penalty?

Speaker 2 (01:57:37):
Are you kidding? Come on? Really?

Speaker 3 (01:57:39):
Maybe you know what? You know what stops things. I'll
tell you what stops things. Buck, cash, money, guilt, the
green cabbage. You find somebody with money that stops things,
right there? Not a five yard penalty? So stop it already?

Speaker 2 (01:57:51):
Really?

Speaker 5 (01:57:53):
Ye know you're right? Is that?

Speaker 6 (01:57:54):
Go?

Speaker 4 (01:57:55):
Stop it?

Speaker 5 (01:57:55):
Until you kind of take put some money into pocket,
take some money out their pocket, and make it happen.
But I understand it.

Speaker 4 (01:58:01):
I understand you don't like it.

Speaker 5 (01:58:02):
This gainsmanship, but no, it curiates an unfair advantage for
the defense if you able to do it all right.

Speaker 7 (01:58:09):
MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred met with President Trump last week
to pardon Pete Rose. Should he be pardoned and finally
admitted to the Hall of Fame? Who do you blame
on this? Bucky? Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:58:20):
He should have always been in the Hall of Fame.
I think what we've done is we've taken things off
the field and blurred the lines on the field. He's
certainly worthy of being a Hall of Famer, three thousand hits,
all the things that he brought. It's unfortunate that he's
not alive to get his flowers, but he should have
been celebrated as one of the best players they ever
done at baseball uniform.

Speaker 3 (01:58:38):
I would say this, first of all, what is President
Trump doing getting involved in this? Who really let baseball
handle it? They've handled it before. But should he be
in the Hall of Fame? No doubt in my mind.
But I will tell you this much, and I'm pretty
friendly with the Rose family, pet Juniors and Forn his
daughter and Pete Junior's son. I got the feeling now

(01:58:58):
that if in fact they say yes, go in the hall,
I think they're going to give him the middle finger
and say the hell with it. No, if my dad
couldn't get in there when he was alive, we don't
want him in there now if that's gonna happen, because
I think they are going to eventually put him in,
and he deserves to be in there.

Speaker 2 (01:59:11):
It's not a Hall of.

Speaker 3 (01:59:12):
Fame without he wrote, how could you have the leading
hitter and all of baseball not in the Hall of
Fame in the Grand Building and Cooper's down New York.

Speaker 2 (01:59:21):
So I think that he'll get in, but I don't
think the family is gonna want him in. That's that's
my take on that. How do you like that?

Speaker 1 (01:59:27):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:59:27):
That stuff. I think he needs to go in. I
think he needs to be celebrated, like regardless, I hope
the family puts his just his memory in their best
interest and be like, yeah, let's put in, Let's put
dad in.

Speaker 2 (01:59:38):
I hope.

Speaker 3 (01:59:38):
So, I hope they. I hope they see that he
should be in there. He should be remembered as the
greatest hitter of all time, and he was. Now we
got a little bit of time. Bring on, I know
it's your day with us today.

Speaker 2 (01:59:49):
How was it?

Speaker 3 (01:59:49):
What did you learn? Did you learn anything? Did you
have a good time? We'd like to hear from you
a little bit little summary.

Speaker 7 (01:59:55):
Oh my gosh, a ten out of ten stars. You
guys would definitely recommend going to download the podcast. Are
recommend it to all my family and friends.

Speaker 2 (02:00:03):
Did you have a good timeet?

Speaker 6 (02:00:05):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (02:00:06):
Is there anything that you learned from us today that
you could take away and say, you know, I heard
that from Bucky Brooks or Andy Fernan.

Speaker 7 (02:00:13):
Bucky brought me back to reality in regards to my Saints,
So I needed that. Thank you, Bucky.

Speaker 5 (02:00:18):
They're gonna be all right, Yeah, they be right.

Speaker 2 (02:00:20):
I'd love to hear that.

Speaker 3 (02:00:22):
We'll have a great Easter, have a great week. We'll
see you all next week right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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