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October 13, 2024 119 mins

Mark Willard and Ephraim Salaam discuss the Dallas Cowboys and just how terrible they played against the Lions earlier today at home. Mark and Ephraim also react to the very bad look of Nick Sirianni getting booed at home by his fellow Eagle fans and then Sirianni chirping back at them. Plus, the guys go into depth on DeShaun Watson's contract and how to avoid that mess going forward.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio, all go ahead and
count them up. It is week six in the National
Football League, and we have got all kinds of stuff
to get to, including our own little watch party as
the Bengals and Giants will get started here shortly. That's
our version of Red Zone Radio eve from one of

(00:21):
the beautiful things. One of the beautiful things about being
the age we are. And I think you're just a
scotch younger than I am. I think we'd established that.
But you and I have been around the block a
time or two.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Right, one way to say, okay, right, the long blunts.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yes, some things that have happened, and we have become
aware of them, and we have viewed them, and we
have experienced them. And so what that means is is
that when one team is three and three and another
team is three and three, we can see through the weeds.
And and so I'm gonna take a stab here, Aphrom,

(01:06):
because I've been around the block. The Cowboys stink that
that's a bad football team. I don't care what the
record is. I don't care that at one in the
morning dacked through the ball to somebody who caught it.
On Sunday Night Football last week in Pittsburgh. Like, I

(01:28):
know what I know, and there's a lot I don't know,
but I do know what I do know in the
Cowboys are not a good football team.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Look, that's not breaking news. I don't think. I think
it may be that way for Cowboy.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Fans because remember, you know, we were saying similar things
last year about hey, there's they're not as good as
their record says. They haven't beaten anyone, like we were
eluding to all of these things. They were undefeated at home.

(02:05):
You know, they won twelve games again for the third
time I think in three years, and then they get
boat raced in the playoffs like they always do. The
majority of their opponents last year were subpar teams that
they beat up on, and at anytime they actually played
a team with the winning record or playoff team, they got,

(02:27):
you know, dismantled. So you follow that into an off
season where they did not do anything to make their
team better. And remember all off season we were on air,
same time slot every week wondering what are the Cowboys
doing to get better? What are they doing? Earlier this year,

(02:48):
sound bites came out, Well, we couldn't afford Derrick Henry.
We couldn't do this. We're happy with our backfield. All
the talk was about are they going to sign Dak Prescott?
Is he going to be the sixty million dollars man
a year.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
No?

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Well, look so now they got ninety million dollars a
year tied up into two players who do absolutely nothing
for them in terms of winning. You decided not to
improve your football team and free agency and really focus
on signing Dak and Cede Lamb pack and now you

(03:31):
are where you are. You're a poor football team that
doesn't really have legs. You have not won at home
at all, and your one dimensional. You cannot run the ball,
and whenever someone rolls coverage over the top of Ceedee Lamb,
Dak Prescott forces the ball and he throws interceptions. Hello,

(03:51):
Cowboy fans, this is your life.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah, yeah, you nailed it. And it's really fascinating how
we got here, because, as you said, I thought this
was telegraphed. I mean, this was the most obvious thing
that you could have ever seen in the offseason, and
I know it's kind of how the whole media and
fan game works. And so this is going to be

(04:18):
a long week for Dak Prescott, right, it's going to
be a long week, But I would love to know
what really is it that you would have Dak do
Like you're saying, he locks in on CD, who else
is Kim to lock in on? You're right, it's absolutely

(04:39):
fascinating and stunning to look at this roster and think
to yourself, who exactly did you think was going to
make plays? It's easily the worst running game in the NFL.
It's the worst running game in the NFL. I don't
care if there are holes there or.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Not the Jets, and the Jets are pretty bad.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, well that's a bad running game.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
But they have two great running backs. They just can't
for whatever reason. Well I don't think they established a
runner up, but we'll get to them later.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Well wait, will go ahead.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
But you're right.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
And when you look at these numbers and you look
at you know, five carries for Dowdle for twenty five
yards and eight carries for seventeen yards for Ezekiel Elliott
and one one that's seventeen carries for fifty three yards.
And granted the game was it was over in the
second quarter. By halftime, the game was over because your

(05:36):
defense can't stop anybody. And granted you don't have your
two star worth defensive ends, but you still got to
put a team out there, and you still got to compete,
and I don't see them competing on either side of
the ball. And if you can't even show up and

(05:57):
compete at home, where everything is in your favor, then
I don't know how to appease the cowboy fans out
there who love to throw random things out there. Yeah,

(06:18):
you beat up on the Browns. The Browns aren't good,
I mean, And actually you beat the Giants, Yeah, the.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Giants barely, And you beat the Steelers on the.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Last on the last play of the game.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
And your home record this year is zero and three,
and please forget about you're silly fake. It wasn't really
a thing comeback against the Ravens in the fourth quarter.
Side of that, you've had three games there and you've
been run off the field in the first half in
all three of those games. So you know, you mentioned

(06:51):
like Michaeh Parsons and and some of their their stalwarts
on defense are out. They look the exact same one
they were in.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
That is true. That is true.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
I look around the league right now, I.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Was just trying to find an excuse.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
You know, you get on Twitter and then you the
Dallas Cowboys'll be quick to fill you in on who's
missing or why they look the way they look. I mean,
but sixty million dollars a year for a quarterback who's
a pretty good quarterback, but it hasn't equated to anything

(07:24):
resemblance a deep playoff run, our championship.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
And that's and they gotta get you.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yep. They got to eat that almost forty point loss,
thirty eight point loss today, thirty nine whatever, thirty I
can't add. Yeah, sure, I had it thirty eight, thirty
eight point loss today against the Detroit Lions. They get
to sit with that through their bye week.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Look, they'll win next week though. That's the great thing
exactly they're going there. They I won't say they'll win,
they will not lose. I promise you next week that
is accurate.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
But I will almost promise you that they well the
week after that. It's going to happen right in the
middle of our show. They visit the San Francisco forty
nine ers on Sunday Night Football. They'll have the rest advantage,
but they will have and this is objectively. Now, maybe
outside of Ceede Lamb, when the Dallas Cowboys play the

(08:19):
forty nine Ers in two weeks and they're both three
and three, the Niners might be three and four by them,
they've got to play the Chiefs. I think outside of
maybe Ceedee Lamb, the Cowboys are worse at every single
position on the entire football field then the team they'll
be playing.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
In two weeks.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, I mean, well, I think it may be a
push with Ceedee Lamb.

Speaker 5 (08:46):
Certainly the receiving corps, right, it would be a push
if you if you combine how you can and they
just they're just a better team.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
They're just a better team.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
It's so crazy. Though I've been alive for forty nine years,
I've never seen the Cowboys roster look like this. They
don't have any good players.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
It's literally a who's who of.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Who exactly, Like in my whole life. They're not always good.
But it's kind of like your Lakers my whole life.
The Lakers have a lot of good times. They'll have
some bad times, but even in the bad times, you're like, dude,
like that's a.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Big name, yeah, like Kobe's you know, right, last four
years of Kobe.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
It was like, still, Kobe, I don't care what you Yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Maybe you can carve out the Van Exel era and
be like, yeah, what's going on there? But almost always right,
the Lakers would would have a couple of dudes, whether
it was working or not. You know, the Dwight Howard
era that didn't work, but you.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Had name guys yeah, yeah, right, And and.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
The Cowboys that you paid these two players. I like
them both, I really do. I don't think Dak is
as bad as what it's gonna sound like this week.
And CD is a really really good receiver. I'm like,
what else do you have anywhere anywhere man on the roster?

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Just looking at that, they were just outmatched by Detroit
from the jump. From the jump, Like, what you can't
do if you're Dak Prescott is you can't be driving
down in the first quarter and you throw a red
zone inter. It just can't happen, man, you cannot. You've
played too much football to be fooled by the defense, right,

(10:41):
don't be fooled by the safety flaring out to guard
the back and you gotta recognize the space. And I
promise you didn't even see him and you can't be
fooled by that, and those are mistakes that young quarterbacks make,
not sixty million dollars a year. Quarterbacks. That's the problem

(11:04):
I'm having. You can't put the ball in harm's way
and you can't be fooled at the line of scrimmage
when you've reached that level.

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(11:37):
I feel had the best loss of the day, and
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Speaker 1 (12:01):
Okay, these arethetirack dot com studios. That's e from Salama
Mark Wellardweek six. What's up? So we'll do this a
little bit later. I find this one funny, but let's
hold it because I have a feeling we're gonna need
to We're gonna need some space for this one because
someone today committed what I always feel is the number

(12:28):
one don't do that in sports, number one. I bet
you know what I'm talking About're gonna hold that because
we need like elbow rooms to talk about that one.
Your commanders did not win today, No they didn't, but
I want to fully have their back because they were

(12:49):
not supposed to win today. Today was a game where
they were supposed to look the part, and they did.
I think Baltimore is you and I have talked about
this like they're four and two, and it's kind of
almost quirky that they're not five and one or maybe
even six and zero. I think that that is right

(13:12):
now as difficult of a of a team to play
as the NFL has to offer right now. Yeah, and
so what I wanted to see from Washington was A,
don't get blown out, and b just watch the game

(13:33):
and look composed like you belong on the same field.
And they played a little bit from behind. But Manny,
from every week I say the same thing about Jaden Daniels.
There is absolutely zero fear. There is none of that

(13:53):
deer in headlights look, and there are very few of
even what you would call rookie mistakes. He's not perfect,
nobody is. But I watched the composure of this guy
in a number of different situations now and I was
already a believer, but they lost today and and it

(14:14):
made me believe even more.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah, watching that game, I mean, you're going up against
the juggernaut, right, everybody's calling him Jaydon Daniels, Lamar Jackson,
lte right, like this is you're You're you're going up
against your big brother.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Right.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
I'm sure somebody he's idolized and maybe patterned some of
his game after.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
And you can see that.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
You saw that, like the first time you saw Jordan
and Kobe play against each other, right, it was like, oh, okay,
of course Jordan gets the better of it. But during
that game you're like, oh, I see it. I see

(15:02):
it in a young Kobe Bryant. I see what all
the hoopla is about. And watching that game and watching
Jayden Daniels stay composed, not turn the ball over, complete
big passes, I mean, on the year, he's.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Nine for nine on fourth down. Yep, all right, that's
the one.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
But what that lends to is the fact that you
can't shake him no matter what's going on in the game.
You go down and they give up a score, then
he comes right back down. He's gonna score, and it
just it was it was great to see him step

(15:51):
up and compete on that level of that stage, because
that's a big stage.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yes it is.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
That's a big stage. And you know, shout out to
their defense and no one can stop them from running.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
But they did turn lamar over.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
I got an interception, and they were in the game, right,
They were in the game and it was competitive, and
I think that's what they needed.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
They needed to.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Be tested by one of, in my opinion, the best
teams in the NFL. And how would they fare because
what they do is can you can build off of
that going in to the rest of the year. Like

(16:38):
you know, there aren't a lot of like next week
the Panthers, that's not Baltimore, week after that, the Bears. No,
not Baltimore, the Giants, No, No, Like when you get
to the Steelers, you're going to get that level of defense,
But you've just faced a juggernaut in terms of defense

(17:01):
with an extremely special talent on the edges and all
of that. So all of this is getting him ready
and getting him acclimated to his rookie season as a quarterback.
And I am I'm pleasantly surprised and pleased, not surprised,

(17:22):
but pleased and how they performed in such a big game.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
And it was mussy TV. I mean it was.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
It was two games on that were really, you know,
great games to go back and forth and watch.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
You want to know what I thought the biggest number
of this entire game was as we look at that,
Daniels had six carries for twenty two yards.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
The Baltimore Ravens were like, no, you're not doing that.
And what I love about this kid is he's like, fine,
you want play that way, I can play that way too,
without turning the ball over, throwing for just a shade
under three hundred yards, getting Terry mcclaurin, his best receiver

(18:11):
involved in the end zone twice, like he's throwing inside
the numbers, he's throwing outside the numbers. Like this is
a complete player.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Yeah, and and and a credit and shout out to
the Baltimore defense but would you expect anything less because oh,
by the way, they've played defense against Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
They know exactly what makes the whole engine go right.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Like it's it's a little bit different when you actually
spent all summer in all camp practicing just how to
rush against someone like Lamar Jackson, and it manifested itself.
Today showed that they were look, they were in their

(19:03):
rushing lanes. They weren't out of place. They knew exactly
how to approach this young talent because they have one
of those talents, and that's just great coaching.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
You just mentioned their next three games. I want everybody
to hear that again. The Carolina Panthers, the Chicago Bears,
and then the New York Giants. Upsets happened in the NFL.
They've been happening at a very furious rate so far
this year. So I'm not going to just go ahead
and assume that the Commanders are going to win all
of those football games. I promise you're gonna win at

(19:36):
least a couple of them, though, at least a couple
of them, and then you know, as you said, Pittsburgh
will come to town. That's a defense that you're going
to have to reckon with But you get into November,
They've got back to back games against Philadelphia in Dallas,
and that'll be a ten days stretch because one of
them's on Thursday Night Football. That'll be a ten days

(19:58):
stretch where the Commanders, assuming health, in my opinion, will
be able to show the world that they are going
to win that division this year. You said it a
month and a half ago. Like, I am a firm believer.
Dallas stinks and Philly is only a little bit better.

(20:18):
And so I know what their records are, I know
what their history is and all of that. But I've
watched this division very very closely so far this year,
and as we sit here today, it's not just their record.
The Washington Commanders are the best team in that division.
It's not terribly close.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
I don't think it's close at all. I don't think
it's close at all.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
I just just collectively watching them play. You get it,
You're like, oh, Okay, in my opinion, I believe they
have and this is you know, it's a lot to
be seen, but I believe they have the best quarterback
in the division. I agree with you, So you know

(21:03):
there will be something well, you know, so it's only
been six games, and yeah, I get all that, and
that makes sense. But to me watching this young man play,
I mean he's playing it. We immediately at this time
last year, we knew C. J. Strout was best quarterback
in that division. We knew that was the Oh I

(21:23):
don't know, he's the best quarterback in the division.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, I don't. I mean, like, I don't know what
the resume says, because resume is built on time. What
I know though, is right now today, Yes, who who
is going to go produce a football game for you
this week? He is definitely the best of the four. Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
And so I think they're well coached. I think they're
will managed now. And I'm telling you new Blood, man,
it's something special.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
New Blood.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
You know it'll it'll put you in a situation where
you know, you feel like there's hope as Joe Borough
breaks off a I don't know on a third and
eighteen breaks off.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
A my gosh, forty eight yard run for a score.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Okay, and that is why even though the Cowboys and
Angles aren't very good, they're still better than the Giant.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yes they are.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
That is an unbelievable you do not see something like
that very often. What an unbelievable assignment breakdown out of
a shotgun and Joe Burrow you could see that he
saw it. The second he dropped back.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
He was like, oh, I'm out, I'm going.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
It's like the entire half of the field is wide
open and the safety, the only one in the middle
of the field, clearly didn't see what was happening, and
he ran the wrong way.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
He was running so fast and so far both of
his feet looked like they were going to smack together.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Because I'm not quite sure.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
As we toggle between this game and the Mets and
the Dodgers, woof they starting off run. And to get
an update on just how both of these games are
starting off, how about we go to the sultry sounds
of one smooth cool Cat and Steven c see to say.

Speaker 6 (23:15):
Here on the quiet Storm. You know, thank you, by
the way for buying pizza for the whole crew tonight.
Mystery from salam that probably wasn't going to get public.
I wanted to make sure to mention it. We all
thank you.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
I could have used it stay in private personally, but anyway, go.

Speaker 6 (23:30):
Ahead, Yeah, the bagels do have the early lead. More
on that in the moment, and certainly more on the
big NFL injury in the late afternoon window. But the
Dodgers are hosting the Mets on Fox TV right now
in Game one and the National League Championship Series. LA
native Jack Flaherty is the starter for the Dodgers. He
got to the first inning pretty quickly. And this is
a guy who, by the way, growing up in LA

(23:52):
went to the Mets Dodgers playoff opener almost a decade
ago when they were at Dodgers Stadium. As for the
Mets start, it's code is Senga, who due to a
calf injury, missed a lot of the season, only went
two innings about a week ago. And here after getting
the leadoff, man has walked three in a row. So
its bases loaded one out for the Dodgers in the

(24:13):
bottom of the first and Will Smith has popped it up.
We'll see if it's deep enough for sackfly. Game two
of the series, the best of seven, is Monday afternoon
that will also be on Fox TV four pm Eastern Time.
By the way, bass is still loaded. Two outs in
the first went Kie Bett Hookie Bets held out a third.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Best he could have beat. That throw wasn't even near
the play he could have made that.

Speaker 6 (24:38):
Come on in the ALCS. The Yankees will host Cleveland
games one and two on Monday and Tuesday night. NASCAR
win at Charlotte for Kyle Larson the NFL game, the
Giants hosting the Bengals, and already that Bengals touchdown on
a seven to nothing lead. Joe Burrow and I'm glad
you mentioned it was third and eighteen for crying out
Loud runs forty seven yards for the Cincinnati touchdown. So yeah,

(25:01):
he'll be the leading rusher in this game for quite
some time. The Giants without running back Devin Singletary groin injury,
without punter Jamie Gillin tonight due to a hamstring injury.
Linebacker cave On Thibodeau is on ir after wrist surgery.
Giants wide receiver Moleak Neighbors out with a concussion. If
Cincinnati holds onto this early lead, they'll be two and four.

(25:21):
The Giants would be two and four, and then there's
Dallas oh and three at home, three and zero on
the road, so added up three and three, but wow,
five turnovers at home today? Lost to Detroit forty seven
to nine Jared Goff with three touchdown passes and a
bad injury for superstar defensive end of the Lions, Aiden
Hutchinson leg injury put in an air cast cart it

(25:44):
off straight to the tumble the tunnel with the ambulance
headed to a local trauma hospital where he had emergency
surgery on the leg and is staying in a Dallas
area hospital overnight. It was called a tibia fracture. Pr
corrected that it was not a compound fracture. It was
ugly and making the sack, Hutchinson's leg whipped around and

(26:05):
basically snapped on the leg of a teammate the defensive end.
According to Fox's Jordan Schultz, did suffer a season ending
fractured tibia. Today he'll undergo additional tests to confirm the
full severity, but quote his season is over. That is
the Fox report. Meanwhile, what is happening with the Cowboys?
As you brought up, not just the home losses, but

(26:28):
there was that home playoff game that they didn't come
close to winning at the end of last year. So
the folks at sport Radar looked at up. These last
four games have been bad not just losing all four.
They've allowed one hundred and sixty seven points in these
last four home games, which is the most allowed in
any span of four home games by anybody in the

(26:48):
last fifty years.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Just for the record.

Speaker 6 (26:51):
Atlanta one at Carolina thirty eight to twenty. Pittsburgh defeated
Las Vegas thirty two to thirteen. Chargers were up twenty
three nothing at Denver early four, twenty three, sixteen the
final Tampa Bay and Baltimore with wins. The Baltimore Ravens
have won four in a row. Update Max Munsey with
a two run single at Dodger Stadium. It's La two

(27:12):
nothing in the first over the Mets. Game one at
the NLC.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Aspects watching Freddy Freeman running around, that face on.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
That boy he was he was squeeze boy. He made
it in though. Dodgers up.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, he's fighting, he's fighting. Good on him. And thank
you Steve. Yeah. By the way, do you know, off
the top of your head, the names of the teams
that have given up more points than the Dallas Cowboys
this year? The names of the teams that have given
up more points than the Dallas Cowboys this year?

Speaker 2 (27:53):
No, I don't do you.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
I do. I'm looking at it right now. All right.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Let me let me take a guess. Okay, I would
say hmm. I would say the panthers, ding, how many
of them?

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Two?

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Two? Okay?

Speaker 3 (28:16):
I would say the panthers and number one. I would
say that the panthers, and I would say the Jaguars ding.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
WHOA, that is clean? Sweet? That's your list.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Good, that's your list.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
The Panthers and the Jaguars. So don't get mad at
me with hey, they're three and three. They're not. They're terrible.
They're terrible. They are terrible. They are minus forty two
in their point differential in the NFC. Only the Panthers

(29:01):
and Rams are worse. That's it. So that like it is.
Like I said earlier, Bud, I just don't. I don't
know in my lifetime when the Cowboy roster has ever
looked like this.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
No, And we we knew, we felt this.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
So if if I knew it, you knew it, and
the majority of our contemporaries knew it, and we talked
about it for months, they had to have known it, correct.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
I just don't. I don't under I never understood you.
And I talked about it every week during the summer.
I'm like, is it are they home?

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Like they're not even paying attention to what's going on?

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Like, is everybody are they working?

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Listen to me?

Speaker 3 (29:49):
I I would have went to Derrick Henry and offered
him everything.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Could you imagine this team with Dereck Henry?

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Can you imagine Jerry Jones using the phrase we couldn't
afford him.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
God, that's so dispassing.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
You literally said that. Think about what's coming out of
his mouth. Would you ever hear the Ravens? Would you
ever hear the forty.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Nine ers one serious about contending the Chiefs?

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Would you ever hear one of those organizations say couldn't
afford him? Well, all that means is you're not doing
your job very well at rollery, cop manipulation is literally
the name of the game.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
There's spending ninety million dollars on two players, right.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
And so yes, you can.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Guess what a poor job.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Plus you're the richest man in the whole league.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Guess what the fact that.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
We're sitting here and we're we're like, I mean the
glaring hole that is the Cowboys' backfield, like bringing a
Zekel Elliott back I don't know what that's even about.
But how lucky is Dak Prescott Because if Jerry Jones

(31:13):
would have said we'll take care of you after the
season and he was out there playing the way he's
playing now, then those negotiations would have looked a little different.

(31:37):
He's got a huge bag, the biggest bag ever given
to an athlete in football, and he has regressed. Now,
it's not all his fault, I get it. But if
they would have done something like we're gonna go get
you Derrick Henry right, gonna push the Raiders to trade

(32:02):
for Davonte Adams right, and we're going to take care
of you after the year. To me as a quarterback,
I'm like, I can work.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
With that.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Absolutely because I know that I'm going to benefit from
having a Derrick Henry and Advante Adams and a CD Lamb.
You didn't do anything, alright, man, but he got his
bag and it's going to be Dak Prescott for at
least four years.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Speaking of a guy getting his bag and ending up
in a bad situation, you're gonna want to hear about this.
We got to talk about this. We're in the Tyreck
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Speaker 4 (32:55):
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Speaker 1 (33:07):
Okay, we're live tyrag dot Com Studios with Ephraim Sam.
I'm Mark Willard. Just my opinion now, just kind of
my angle on this because I understand I understand frustration
after a game, totally get it. But very highly paid

(33:30):
Calvin Ridley, who was not targeted today in the Titans
loss to the Colts throughout a quote I got to get.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
The ball.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
In the locker room. And the funny thing is, I don't.
It's not like I disagree. I mean, he's very good
playmaker and you paid him to be a very important
piece of the offense. You have two guys that at
one point or another were like really big deals at
the wide receiver position in this league, and Calvin Ridley

(34:04):
and DeAndre Hopkins and Tony Pollard is producing very well
out of that backfield. So you have all that. But
this is kind of the way I look at it.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
You knew, I don't mean to cut you off. We
just I think this may be the first one of
the playoffs. We just got a an infringement on the
pitch clock.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Oh, that is the first one of the playoffs, at
least that I know. Yeah, I haven't watched every game.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
But yeah, umpire stopped it.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
And uh hand it out a ball. Humm, first time
I've seen that.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah. Well, I mean the guys have gotten used to it,
so they don't They don't commit that error very often anymore.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
All Right, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to jump in.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
There, not just that the Uh no, I'm glad you
did because I I only have one TV where I
know exactly. So anyway, I'm still watching football until this
thing is twenty one.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Nothing but.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Calvin Ridley, I feel like you knew what you were
signing up for. This is one of those situations when
he signs that deal with the Titans, and it was
a big one. He gets ninety million dollars to go
to the Tennessee Titans. It raised some eyebrows for sure,
multiple reasons. Man, there goes that wide receiver market again.

(35:33):
Is Ridley really worth that? And then the second thing
you're thinking, which I know is what we were all thinking.
You're gonna catch any balls for that ninety million.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Who's throwing you the ball?

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Who's throwing you the ball? Now? At the moment, the
Titans were still at least mildly intrigued. I think by
Will Levis, I don't think they are anymore. No, I
don't think they are anymore. So if you go for
the money, I've got nothing but love for you.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
That's why. The same with the Devonte Adams.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yep, you got your money, okay, but now you get
what you get. You signed up to play with Will Levis.
He throws the ball underhanded, and and and around his
back and two opponents a lot like he's had the
most embarrassing plays of the year by far. So you

(36:31):
went for the highest bidder rather than a situation where
you could statistically shine. Now you get what you get.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
You get what you get, man, And don't you know
I get it. You're frustrated. You think you can help
the team. But that's a conversation you have upstairs. You
go upstairs. That's how that's when people take you serious,
when you go upstairs and be like, hey, you know

(36:59):
what can I do to help? I want to help?
How do I make his job easier? The media is
not going to get you the ball. Media is not
gonna get you the ball.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
And so just.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Look, man, you're making a lot of money, man, and
I know you want to earn your money. Any prideful athlete,
especially one that commands a price tag like that, I
want him to be upset that.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Why would you throw that past? Daniel Jones? Oh my lord?
I mean what what?

Speaker 1 (37:43):
What were your quarterback rankings in the nfcas to Get.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
America.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
So Jayden Daniels was number one? Oh god, this is
who's number two? Is it Dak or Jalen? Number two?

Speaker 3 (37:58):
It would probably be Jalen because it's not I don't
want interceptions by the truck load.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Dax's number number three? And oh god, oh god, I'm
just watching it again.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
How would you throw that?

Speaker 1 (38:10):
I mean, that's what you do when you're in fifth grade.
On the play, you're three flags up. For those of
you it's radio, you can't see it, three flags up
with a three hundred pound defensive lineman literally launching himself
at you.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
You're on the cusp of the red zone. You've had
a tremendous drive yep to tie the score. There's pressure
in your face and you lean back and shoot the
ball straight up in the air.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah. Yeah, you ever played three flags up with the Yes?

Speaker 3 (38:44):
That was that?

Speaker 1 (38:45):
That's what that's the throw. Throw it as high as
you can, straight up in the air. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
On another note, the Mets have made a pitching change
in the bottom of the second after had a RBI single.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Okay, Dodgers code I Senga, who started out the year
very very solidly for for the Mets.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Is uh is already out, already, he is done for
the day.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, I like, I don't know what the Giants were.
You know, we all saw the not we all did,
but you know the HBO Hard Knocks thing where they
were certainly flirting with the idea of trading up to
get a quarterback and seemingly no one would let them,
and they were kind of like, all right, fine, we'll

(39:41):
go with Daniel Jones. I mean, I actually got a question.
I got a quarterback question for you. This organically just
comes out of this conversation, and I want to ask
this to you coming up next. Think about this for
for a couple of minutes. Who's had the most ego
crushing twenty twenty four seasons so far? Daniel Jones, Will

(40:07):
Levis or Bryce Young.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Oh that's easy.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Okay, we'll talk about it.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
We'll talking about Letty stir that around.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Think about it. We'll do that coming up next. Yeah,
we're moving through Week six in the National Football League.
Just started. The NLCS is flanking us alongside as well.
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recommended installers tyrack dot com. The way tied buying should
be e from I mentioned to you earlier. We had
someone today do what I always think is the number
one don't do that in sports. For me, the number

(40:58):
one don't do that in sports is to get mad
at the fans for bullets. Don't ever It's a hard no.
Don't ever, ever ever do that, namely because there's just
no win. That's not a fight. Lose out a few

(41:22):
more loses in there, lose, but especially don't do it
when quite frankly, they kind of have a point. It
doesn't matter if fans get it, it doesn't matter if
they're football smart, Like, there's no way that any fan

(41:44):
can know exactly what's going on inside your locker room.
You know. My favorite, I think I've told you this before,
is when people get mad at play calling because it's
like you don't even know what was called. You know
what happened. I guess you could be mad when you
want him to run it and they drop back to pass.

(42:08):
But when a quarterback throws it to a receiver. For example,
you just saw Daniel Jones throw the three flags up pass.
I'm pretty sure they ain't call that. So whenever it
goes somewhere, you don't know where it was supposed to go.
I don't know if it was the second read, the
third read, hot read improvisation. I don't know. So we

(42:32):
get it. We're fans. But here's what fans are allowed
to do. They're allowed to tell you whether or not
they're being entertained for their dollard that they can do.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Yes, that's it.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
It doesn't matter if you're right or wrong. They came
to have a good time. And Nick Sirianni, the head
coach of the Eagles, who's hearing it. I know he's
hearing it all week long sports radio in Philadelphia. You
get it, you're hearing it all week long. You're under
the microscope. Expectations are through the roof ever since you

(43:06):
were ten and one and then stopped playing football last year.
So he's hearing it, he's feeling it, and they won
a football game, so he's thinking, get off my back.
But to me, a fan is completely allowed to voice
displeasure over the way the offense looks and the fact

(43:28):
that you really really had to struggle to hold off
the Cleveland Browns at home.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
I mean, look, the fans have every right to voice
their opinion. And you know it's Philadelphia, so they booed
Santa Claus.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Correct, So this is what it is.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
They praise Rocky, who is a fictional character. There is
a statue of a fictional character that yay, hang a
lot of hope on too. So if it doesn't look right,
and right now, I'm just watching the Eagles play. They

(44:12):
don't know what type of team they are. They don't
know who they are as a team because not having
Davante Adams and I mean Davonte Smith and.

Speaker 6 (44:28):
A. J.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Brown.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
They finally got them back now, right, So now you're
stuck between are we gonna lean on Saquon Barkley like
we have been or are we going to spread the
ball around to these you know, Pro Bowl receivers, these
difference makers. So first game back, when your coboard is full,
you're trying to figure out who we are, and at

(44:52):
times it looked like they didn't know who they were
on certain drives. I think Saquon Barkley today was underutilized.
But AJ Brown had a phenomenal game.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
But if you I mean they've struggled offensively. They scored
sixteen points last week, they scored twelve or fifteen the
week before there right against the Falcons, they score twenty
one right outside of the season opener, when scoring thirty
four points, They've been pretty anemic when it comes to offense.

(45:30):
And that's an offense that doesn't know who they are.
They're trying to figure it out. They squeaked away. They
gotta win, which they desperately needed against a much maligned
Browns team, and you know they have an opportunity to

(45:50):
get to four and two next year next week.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Playing the Giants. That's a pretty sweet deal.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
As a coach, just focus on that, don't worry about
the fans, don't worry about the bully.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Well a you're absolutely right, But b I think this
goes even a step deeper than that. From this perspective,
here's the problem with Nick Sirianni jawing with fans, which
is what happened. And then when he was asked about it,
he tried to play though, well, you know, energetic stuff

(46:30):
out there and just saying hello and all of that.
But then they followed up and he's sort of bit
the forbidden fruit. He's like, yeah, it helps us a
lot more when they cheer, Like we feed off that encouragement,
and so we hear it when they cheer, we hear

(46:52):
it when they boo, and so I don't understand the
point of the booing. And my thought is, unless you're
paying the fans, I don't think you get to ask
them to help you. No, they're paying you, so they
get to tell you if they're happy or not. But

(47:13):
the biggest thing of all, Ephraim, what a hypocrite? How
dare you set the tone that you set, which is
out of saliva flying out of your mouth all the time,
running up and down the sideline, chest bumping people, running
out to midfield when something good happens with that look

(47:37):
on your face, that look like you're just about to
head butt someone. At all times. You're gonna set that
tone as the head coach, which dude, do you not
for me, but do you You're gonna set that tone
and then come down on fans when they boom, Like,

(48:02):
that's the tone you set. When you set the emotional tone,
you get emotion. You can't you can't turn around and
say no, no, no no, don't be emotional. Now be
emotional when I want you to be emotional. Done work
that way.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Yeah, talking about the fans is like breaking the fifth
wall in television, right, Like are the fourth wall in television?
You don't talk to the camera, right unless that's the
way your shows, you know, designed, right like Winning Time
he broke the fourth wall and a lot of you know,

(48:39):
some people who I know who watched it, they had
a problem with it. Just it's uncomfortable, right, So the
fans are the fourth wall. You don't break the fourth
wall first person, second person, third person. Don't break the
fourth wall because you can't control that when you start
talking to them. They're not part of the script. You

(49:01):
don't know what's coming back, So leave it alone. Yeah,
just worry about the team, like I said, you got
a great opportunity to get your team ready to be
four and two after next week's game against the Giants.
You should seriously be locked in on that. Anything else,

(49:25):
they gonna talk about it when they fire you.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Well, and look, this is as a member of the media.
This is not what I want, but I certainly take
a note of it. For example, now that Bill Belichick
is just like willing to do anything in the media
for anyone who asks, ever, and everybody's getting a window
into who he actually is as opposed to the guy

(49:48):
we watched in front of the podium for twenty years.
But if I'm a head coach in the NFL today,
I'm gonna take a page out of that. In other words,
if you just make an agreement with yourself, this is
the person I'm going to be in front of the microphone.

(50:09):
And I'm never breaking thinking character ever, not for nothing.
So when guys are getting fined for making fun of
Rex Ryan and foot fetishes, you still go to the
media and just go, nah, we have a game next week,

(50:31):
We're gonna play it, and look what happens. You never
get involved, And quite frankly, that's sort of the weakness
I see with Nick Sirianni. He gets involved in everything.
He's now involved in the fans. He goes out on
the field and celebrates with players. His little personal assistant

(50:53):
got kicked off the sideline last year for getting all
jumping in the face of of players in the middle. Like, dude,
just coach the team, bro, coach the team. Leave the
rest of this stuff alone.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Just let it go.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Man.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
You can't win that battle.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
No, no, you cannot win this.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Focus on the task at hand, and that is winning games. Period.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
We're watching Sunday Night football. We're talking week six. We've
got game one of the NLCS and coming up next,
speaking of coaches getting involved in stuff, there's an assistant
coach whose name suddenly is all over the internet this
evening because of what happened on the sideline today. But

(51:45):
it needs to be addressed, so we'll get to that.
Coming up next with me from Salama, Mark Willard, Fox
Sports Radio, Okay, Tyrack dot Com Studios, Mark Witherty from Salam.
You know who Mike Caldwell is, Yes, assistant coach with
the Las Vegas Rangers. Did you see the video?

Speaker 2 (52:09):
I did not see the video.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Okay, Max Crosby coming off of the field and walks
right over to Caldwell, and Caldwell's kind of giving him
a little bit of a head nod or something. Who
knows what he's saying to him, and Max, with a
somewhat straight face, just extends both arms and boom, just

(52:35):
gives him a two handed shoved of the chest and
social media do your thing and here we go. Oh
Max is not pleased. Oh we've got We've got salaciousness

(52:55):
on the sideline in Vegas. And the first time I
looked at it, especially considering who we're talking about, because
Max Crosby is colorful, energetic, fiery, all of these things
and really good. So the first time I saw it,
I'm like, I'm not convinced that he's mad.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Yeah, it doesn't look like he's looks like he pumped.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Yeah, he shoved his coach with two hands. And it's
funny to me that the men would run around to go,
we got we got a situation. I'm like, this is
coming from a gender that literally says hello to their
friends by punching them. That's you ever been to a

(53:45):
high school, that's what you do. You punch him, You
whack him on the back, sometimes it gets even a
little bit racier than that, Like that's kind of the
way some dudes are with each other. So I just
you know, exhibit number one thousand and eighty of like

(54:07):
where video coming out of an NFL weekend can sort
of like take on a life of its own. Max
has already gone to Twitter and wrote, Mike Caldwell is
my guy. One of the best people in the business.
That's a love push stop reaching.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Max Crosby is one of the stand up guys in
the NFL, like really one of the stand up guys.
One of those guys who's going to stand on business
as they like to say, as the youth likes like

(54:49):
to say, he stands on business.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Yep, ten toes down.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
So he's very he's He's one of the few players
you don't have to question his heart, his love, his
respect for the game. You just don't because he wears
it on his leeve every single play, every day.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
And I love that about him.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
I respect that about him, and so does that entire
organization and every coach and every player you can build
your defense around Max Crosby. He's never been a me guy. So,

(55:38):
like he said, you know, chill out, man, stop reach it.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Well, you know what I thought of, what I thought
of when I saw this, and it no doubt has
to be on our plate this week, even though it
happened at the beginning of the week Robert Sala was
fired with Jets. Yeah, and remember about three weeks ago,
there was like a weird exchange.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
It wasn't a weird exchange.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
It was I thought it was a weird exchange. It was, well, okay,
and that's a completely fair take. But that that too,
to me, can fit in that definition of that. Well,
that was an odd exchange, like why why would Aaron
have reacted the way he did to Robert? And Aaron
explained it away in two seconds. But Aaron, let me clear,

(56:29):
my throat is full of it, the same way he
was full of it on McAfee the day after the Forwah.
Nobody was hurt more than me. Nobody was more surprised
than me with Robert Salid getting fired. I mean, keep going, Aaron,

(56:50):
I've never even met Robert. I mean, honestly, what are
we doing here? So I like, I thought of that
because these two things, if you don't know what's going on,
or you jump to conclusions, they could look like the
exact same thing.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
I think the difference is there was a level of
disgust in Aaron's face after the shove.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Isn't there always though, And.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
So it was one of those situations where it's like
he shoved them.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
Robert Salo, who's animated and is excited when things go, well,
that's who he's always been.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
He was like that in Houston.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
He was like that as the defensive coordinator of San
Francisco forty nine ers. This is just what he is,
and he was excited they scored. Aaron comes off, He's excited,
wants to share that excitement with Aaron, like he shared
with so many other players. And Aaron was like, chill out,
bro and then look that, I'm like, grow up. That's

(58:03):
a little bit different than what Max Krosby did today.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Oh completely completely.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
But we have a saying in the league, the writings
on the wall that was the beginning of the sentence
of year fired. We know the Jets have put everything

(58:30):
they have into the Aaron Rodgers experiment.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
They're all in.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
They brought the players the receivers he wanted over, they
bought the unqualified offensive coordinator over, and they continue to
make decisions for him, although they're not any better.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
With him than they were without him, same amount of points,
same everything. And so.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
If you think, based on what they've poured into the
Aaron Rodgers experiment, that they wouldn't have let him know
prior to Robert Salad being fired, oh god, then you
don't know.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Football or sports or sports.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Yeah, because you like, there's not a team that that
wouldn't do that. You know, the Lakers are gonna they're
gonna talk to Lebron. The Warriors are going to talk,
whether whether they ask him or not. And I'll give
you an example. If they can talk to him him
and whatever his response to that is, we'll let them

(59:52):
know everything they need to know. They may not put
him in a situation where like do you want us
do or not, but they'll say, hey, look.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
We've been talking. We think we're going in a different
direction than Robert, just so you know, and what we
want to let you know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
First.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
If he says okay, they've got their answer. If he
says okay, they've got their answer. If he said if
he says, now I think we were hitting our stride,
they're not doing it. They're not going to do it.
They'll push it, they'll push They're just not going to

(01:00:32):
do it. They've shown they've shown they're all in on
Aaron Rodgers. They've shown that we know that, we know
that Lazard, Cobb, Hacket. Sure they didn't fire Nathaniel Hackett.

(01:00:53):
He's just getting paid to be Aaron Rodgers' friend.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
On the team.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Now, what is his responsibility?

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
What is the offensive coordinator who no longer is responsible
for calling offensive plays?

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
What is his job now on the team coordinating things?

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
So maybe you know people's schedules, the location of their
backup uniform. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
So he's still there because he's Aaron Rogers friend. Once again,
they've gone all in on the Rogers experiment. So that
shove and that stare, that being upset because you felt

(01:01:47):
he threw you under the bus in the summer, in
the off season when you went to Egypt. All of
these things matter, and you know Aaron Hols grudges.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Indeed. I mean, I'll give you an example, because it's
not just sports. About five years ago, because of a
relocation and a company changed, was I was forced to
give up my position here at Fox Sports Radio. And
when things changed for me, and I was able to

(01:02:21):
come back around. Scott Shapiro was kind enough to open
a door for me, but not until they talked to
Steve Desager. They're like, what do you think we're thinking
of doing this? What do you think? I mean? That's
my understanding of how it went down, So thank you, Steve.

Speaker 6 (01:02:40):
See that also pre presupposes that management knows who I am.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
We talked earlier the show.

Speaker 6 (01:02:47):
The first drive of the night of the NFL Bengals
at Giants game, Joe Burrow had forty seven yard touchdown run. Wow,
nothing has happened since then. We're at the two minute warning,
late first half. It is still seven nothing, Cincinnati people,
you are not missing anything. We have a combined eighth
punt coming up of the first and all absolutely. By

(01:03:08):
the way, it's only since that long run about one
hundred yards of offense for Cincinnati and just over our
one hundred hundred and twenty for the Giants.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
They did.

Speaker 6 (01:03:17):
The Giants have a Darius Slayton catch and run recently
for fifty six yards, but that was nullified by a
penalty for ineligible man downfield. So still seven to nothing
Cincinnati over the Giants. Late first half. The Jets will
be home tomorrow night against Buffalo. Bill's running back James
Cook was able to practice on a limited basis yesterday
due to his toe injuries had problems. The Jets, by

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the way, statistically the worst rushing team in the league,
only eighty yards per game on the ground as a team.
And last add on that Joe Burrow touchdown run of
forty seven yards the longest TD run ever by Bengals
quarterback easily, and the folks at Next Gen stat said
Burrow on that play reached a top speed of almost
twenty miles an hour as he was just to the pylon.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
I told you it looked like his feet while I'm
telling you, yeah, he was running so fast.

Speaker 6 (01:04:08):
In fact, it was the fastest play of Joe Burrow's
pro career, no kidding, and the linebacker chasing him hit
a top speed of almost twenty two miles per hour,
just couldn't make the tackle before Burrow got to the
end zone pylon. The Dodgers scored a couple in the
first inning one in the second. They're up three to
nothing on the Mets bottom of the fourth. This is
the opening game of the best of seven NL Championship

(01:04:30):
Series on Fox TV. For what it's worth, when the
Dodgers score first in a game this season, they win
over eighty percent of those games, which is best in
the majors. Show Hey Otani with an RBI single in
the third and then the exit for the starting pitcher
of the Mets CODEI Senga. By the way, Otani in
his first ever postseason with runners on base. He's five

(01:04:51):
of seven at the plate with no one on base.
He has yet to get a hit this postseason. By
the way, he was caught stealing tonight for the first
time since Hi. Game two of the series is Monday afternoon,
also on Fox TV four pm Eastern Time. In the ALCS,
the Yankees will host Cleveland games one and two on
Monday and Tuesday night. Yankees bullpen, by the way, in

(01:05:12):
the Division Series, they pitched fifteen and two third innings
no earned runs allowed. Kyle Larson was the NASCAR winner
at Charlotte. I mentioned now under two minutes to go
first half, Bengals up seven to nothing at the Giants.
Detroit won at Dallas forty seven to nine. And it
was Cowboy owner Jerry Jones birthday. So hey, let's celebrate.

(01:05:32):
He's eighty two. He celebrated by watching his team tie
the mark for most lopsided loss since he bought the
team in the late nineteen eighties. Congratulations Cowboys with five turnovers.
Dak Prescott was sacked four times. Dallas now zero to
three at home. Atlanta one at Carolina thirty eight to twenty.

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Bjon Robinson two touchdown runs in the first half. For
the game, he had fifteen carries ninety five yards. Pittsburgh
one at Las Vegas. All those Steelers just before halftime,
We're down seven to six. Pittsburgh won the game thirty
two to thirteen. Quarterback Justin Fields two touchdown runs. Chargers
led at Denver twenty three to nothing early in the
fourth twenty three sixteen the final. Tampa Bay won fifty

(01:06:15):
one twenty seven at New Orleans. Bucks took it despite
blowing at early seventeen nothing leads Saints. Wide receiver Chris
o'lave left with a concussion. Tight End Taysom Hill was
out again with a rib injury. Quarterback Derek Carr out
about three to four weeks with his oblique injury. According
to our Jay Glazer. Baltimore won its fourth straight game
thirty to twenty three over Washington Derrick Henry two touchdown

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runs and one hundred and thirty two yards. Victories for
Green Bay, in Indianapolis, for Houston and Philadelphia, and in
a London game this morning, Chicago over Jacksonville thirty five
sixteen Caleb Williams with four touchdown passes. Updating the baseball
the Dodgers are now leading the Mets five to nothing.
In the bottom of the fourth inning, sho heyo, Tony,

(01:07:00):
that had an RBI.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
Single, Well, would you just say no?

Speaker 6 (01:07:04):
In the RB I double if somebody's on base, it's
it's almost you can't get the guy out. It's a
little ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
Back to you, so selfish, He's like, I'm not even
gonna waste my time with hits if I can't drive someone.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
In, if it's not an rb I, I don't want it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Yeah, I'm just not into it. It just just not
that into it. Can we do some baseball for just
a second, man, let's do it. That's those poor Cleveland Guardians.
They don't have a prayer. They're every single call is
going to go against.

Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
You.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
See something shaping up here. Well, I think the world wants.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
You tell me, uh, Yankees, Dodgers, Yankees, Mets, Well, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Guardians yeah, and and and and it stinks. I like
that team. I'm a big fan of Stephen Vote. I
think he's done a wonderful job taking over his manager there.

(01:07:58):
And you're you're seeing the results and so that's, uh,
that's that's a really good thing. And in the age
of replay and all of this stuff. I'm kidding. I've
never been a conspiracy theorist about championship rounds in sports anyway,
but I think I do have a sense of of
who the networks might be rooting for in that series.

(01:08:21):
It might they might, they might get a pretty fancy
series either way, provided that the Yankees win.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
Internationally, they're like either one, we were.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Good either one. That's fine. I mean, sure, Dodger rather
rather have Yes, they'd rather have show hal Ton. By
the way, I saw something with one of the Dodger
playoff games I don't think I've ever seen before, not
even when Bonds was chasing Hank, maybe not even when

(01:08:51):
McGuire was chasing Maris. You've got forward promotion of show
Hayes at dots like an inning and a half before.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
They oh yeah, yeah, up in three batters.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, we promise that within the next
fourteen minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
You'll see them. We promise they tuned in right. I'd
love to see what these numbers are. You got a
homework assignment for next week, Steve, Okay, to see what
these numbers are. Both of these games are on at
the same time now one is almost unwatchable, and the
Sunday night football game and then the Dodgers and the

(01:09:35):
Mets first game.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
So I love, I will get that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
I will definitely get the numbers for you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
However, I said Steve, I didn't say you okay. I
gave Steve homework, you know what. My bad always treading
on his toes.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
I was trying to do some more work for you. Yeah,
somebody asks for a favor. I want to say yes,
but yes, Steve will do a better job. Steven do
a better job than me. But spoiler alert, no matter
what the two look like, you already damn well. Know
who's got more viewers?

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
You know you know the answer? Of course, of course,
of course, the.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Number one show on television has has more eyeballs. Yes,
and no matter how bad it is no, And they've
been having numbers. They've been putting up numbers this year
that are good even for them, even for them. Yeah,
the eyeballs for the primetime NFL so far this year.
And I realized that what happens on Thursday is streaming

(01:10:38):
was actually a subject matter after the Thursday night football
game with the forty nine Ers over the Seahawks this week,
because did you see that replay review on the punt?

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
I didn't, my man.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
You had a ball that bounced up and it hit
two fingers.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Oh no, I did see that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
Yes, yeah, yes, I mean it was clear as day
from every angle, clear as for every angle, from every angle.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Uh no, I hit the fingers up the ball changed.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
The explanation that whoever is in charge of reviewing this
did not have access to those camera angles has to
be one of the strangest business moments in the history
of a multi, multi billion dollar industry. Do you know

(01:11:30):
what Amazon pays for these seventeen games? Arm a leg
for the life of me, cannot figure out a how
that happens and b how there isn't a backup plan

(01:11:51):
like hand the main ref an iPad crying out loud
you could do it on a phone. We could all
see the two fingers move.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
That was weird.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
That was, isn't that weird?

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
That was?

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
That was pretty bad right there? Oh yeah, that was
that was. I was like, what do you got this
one wrong?

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
We play stanzas called I'm sorry say again that one was?

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
That was a strange That a head scratcher.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
A little bit ahead, we're living the Tyreck dot Com studios.
How about a little Davante Adams trade update that that
we can get to coming up next, and then at
the top of the hour. Well, I don't know, man,
is it Is it the worst contract in sports?

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
It might be.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
We got to talk about it, and teams are trying
to figure out how to make sure it never happens again.
That's all coming up with from Salama Mark Willard on
five Sports Radio. All right, Tyrack dot Com Studios, halftime
in the game and follow along NLCS Game one being
very much controlled by the Dodgers at this time. All right,

(01:13:06):
Mark willerty from Salom, Glad you're with us. I want
to say this out loud. We've sort of wondered about it,
but I want to say it out loud before it
happens because I really believe it's gonna happen, mainly because
it should happen, and I like things going the way
they should go, but especially before they play tomorrow night.
You have two teams playing tomorrow night. One of them

(01:13:28):
is the one we've been told is gonna get Davonte Adams.
The other one is the one that should. Yes, okay,
And it is my belief that Davante Adams is going
to end up on the Buffalo Bills. And I'm not
necessarily sure who's driving that bus. I don't necessarily think

(01:13:51):
it's Davante, but to me, yeah, it should be like Davante.
It's kind of wild that And I don't want to
put thoughts in his head because I don't. I haven't
talked to Devonte Adams. We're being told that he wants
to go play with Aaron Rodgers and Derek Carr, his
two former quarterbacks. I don't know one hundred percent know that.

(01:14:14):
But if Davante sat down and said, yeah, man, I
want to right, I want to go home again, I'd
be like, remember last time you tried that. You already
did this once and it ended up being a huge mistake.
You've used two and a half years of the very
end of your prime trying to hang out with your

(01:14:37):
buddy on a team that yep, on a team. And
by the way, he's good, but he not even that good.
He's all right, But you joined a team that was
in the middle of and often is total disarray. They
stuck with your friend for one year and then shipped
him out, and you've been sitting here screaming a clouds

(01:15:00):
ever since. And now now you want to do this again.
Let's take stock of your two old friends. Has it
going so far this year? One of them's got an
oblique injury, he's gonna miss a month and they're losing
games as fast as possible right now while he's gone.

(01:15:20):
The other one just got a coach fired through three
interceptions in London last time we saw him, Oh god man,
and doesn't seem to be able to move the ball
any better than Zach Wilson did. Why are you trying
to go there?

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
I don't know if he's trying to go there. I
think that's what people are speculating.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
I hope.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
So if he chose to go to the Jets over Buffalo,
then he gets what he gets.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
I mean he already does in my opinion, but when
you keep doubling down on things that don't make career sense. Now,
if he's happy with the money he's made, and if
he's happy with the fact that, look, I've accomplished my

(01:16:12):
dream and I just want to go be on a
team with people that I know and that I have
a friendship with.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
Okay, then go to the Jets and live in the
same situation you just left.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
Because the guy throwing you the ball is not the
same Aaron Rodgers that threw you the ball three years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Period.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
He can't get the ball to the receivers he has now.
And if I'm not mistaken, him and Lazard have a relationship,
They have a connection, they have chemistry. Well, hell, I
can't tell. So what would be different. They're averaging thirteen

(01:17:03):
points a game. They don't run the ball, not even
in one score games. So what are you trying by
going there? What would you be trying to do? Just
go hang out with your friends. And if that's what
you are in your career, you've made the money, you

(01:17:26):
get it, You've put up the numbers.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
Man, go go fascinating though, right, because if he truly
is the person that we met on the Netflix documentary
this offseason is well right that he's not feeling like
he's achieved his goals. This is somebody who was basically
fed up by week three after a win man last year,

(01:17:55):
And you know, I know our emotions. You almost want
to pull him aside and you're like, hey, hey, DeVante Commierson,
I'm sorry, did you think that you were going to
beat Patrick Mahomes in this division? But it looked like
he did. It looked like he thought that the Raiders
were going to, like I don't know, go be in

(01:18:17):
the playoffs last year. It's like that's not going to
happen and it's not going to happen again. But I
know who's probably going to the playoffs this year. The
Bills are probably going to the playoffs this year. They've
got a phenomenal quarterback and a receiving corps that is
screaming for a veteran number.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
Of vacancy vacancy.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
That's the spot man. And I do hear their name.
I do hear their name. I think that they are
a little bit under the radar, but I do think
that the Bills are working on this. And when I
see the tweets from Adam Schefter yesterday. Oh and stunning change,
like he maybe he'll stay with the Raiders. That just

(01:19:03):
says to me, the Raiders don't like the offers they're getting,
and something will probably get figured out here pretty soon
because it has to. You can't stay there, No.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
You gotta go, and they don't want you. They need
to get value. They need some value.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
They're gonna cut him at the end of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Yeah, they need to get some value.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
His deal balloons to like thirty five. He's gonna get
paid more than Jefferson next year. Yeah, if he stays. Yeah, right,
so you got to get something, whatever it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Is, some's gotta give.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
Yeah. So I'm a little surprised it didn't happen this week.
Like if I'm if I'm the script writers, I want
I want DeVante Adams making his debut against the Jets
on Monday night. Whoops. All right, we'll get to that
bad contract coming up next. All right, let's rock and

(01:20:02):
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second half. The Giants still have checks notes zero points,
zero points, but the Bengals only have seven, so they're
not that far away. Anything can happen. We'll keep you
up to date and the Dodgers lead the Mets keep
you up to date there as well. Steve Disaga will
be all along with one of his famous updates here

(01:20:45):
in a little bit less than a half hour. I'm
just gonna put this out to you and let you
let you riff for a little bit. Man. You tell me,
what the hell do the Browns do?

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
Oh? I mean, there's nothing they can do.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
They're just gonna eat for two more years after this one.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
That's what it is. That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
You got to focus all your attention on elsewhere, right,
got to get another corner back, got to get you know,
a real, you know, a legitimate, you know, hard nose
running back, right like you. You gotta try to populate
that world because you're stuck there. There's not your there's

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no maneuverability there. That's what happens when you do that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
Wow, let me throw this at you. Look, you're one
and five, and so I feel like you're gonna you're
gonna end up with a pretty decent draft pick. And
so maybe you do have to keep them on your team.
Maybe it does blow up your your whole cap and

(01:22:03):
all of that, But why would you not be open
to starting the development process now with regard to whoever's
going to take that position over as soon as you're
able to get out from underneath it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
Whenever that is, well, yeah, you gotta find that guy.
You gotta you gotta draft him because it's you're not
gonna I mean, you gotta draft him. You literally have to.
And it can't be your first round draft pick because
you still got to try to make it serviceable. So

(01:22:36):
it's got to be you know, third round, get a guy,
develop him, comes in, he's the guy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
See, I don't know if I agree with that. He Like,
I get what you're saying, But why why do you
have to quote try to be serviceable to sort of
justify a contract that you know as.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
Back you know why? You know why because if you say,
you know what, forget it. We're going to find this
replacement this draft with our first round draft pick, right,
that guy is going to sit for at least two years.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
What's wrong with that?

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
Nothings been packs.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
Been doing in my whole lifeterback.

Speaker 3 (01:23:20):
The problem is they were going to the playoffs, they
were going to Super Bowl occasionally, they were going to
NFC championship games. When yet don't have that level of
success and you got a guy sitting on the bench
and you're paying the other guy an obscene amount of money.

(01:23:41):
What will happen is, say, DeShane what runs into what
three more years right before they can really get out
of this thing. By the time he's done, and your
guy that you drafted in the first round, he's ready
to go play, guess what you have to do?

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
Pam, Yeah, And that was just like I think you
just described Jordan Love.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
Yeah, I did.

Speaker 3 (01:24:09):
The only problem is the success that they were having
while Jordan Love was waiting understood that that's a different
You can't every week go to the press conference and
just be like he's not ready yet. When the Deshaun
Watson that you have on the field is I mean,

(01:24:33):
that's tough football to watch.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
So what I would recommend is you go get an
offensive line, an offensive tackle or a center with the
first pick in the draft, and then you grab a
receiver with your second pick in the draft, and an
edge rusher what to go along with Miles Garrett. That's
what I And a running back, that's what I would

(01:24:57):
propose you do, and until you got closer to being
a year out of getting from under this contract and
then getting the quarterback to replace DeShawn Watson. Okay, because
all that time you're going to have to put a
serviceable team on the field.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
I understand the thought process. What's wrong with this, though?
What's wrong with this? Let's say you do draft that
replacement and you get halfway through next year and Deshaun
looks the same way that he looks now, then put
the young guy out.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
No, I'm not gonna do that. This too much money.
It's too much money. Sit on a bench, but you're
not gonna win him.

Speaker 3 (01:25:40):
The Cleveland Browns struck you as the type of team
that will just stock piled fifty million dollars on the bench.

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
No, they strike me as a team that makes four
decisions and loses a lot. And that's what they're going
to do for the next couple of years, no matter
how they play this, Yeah, but they do not Why
not be you know what I'm saying, like, yeah, I
get it your concept, but you're justifying a contract that
there's nothing you can do about. It's a bad one
no matter how you play this.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
Yeah, I mean it is a bad one. They're stuck
with it. You got to ride it out.

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
You gotta really try to populate this world where he
may have a flash and you get lucky and win
nine games or sneak into a ten games. And right, like,
the thing that was keeping a minute last year was
the defense. They've regressed. Yep, right, I know they got
there there. You know they're all pro cornerback. He's on

(01:26:36):
the show, hurt and not like, So you gotta start.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
You gotta build a roster out.

Speaker 3 (01:26:46):
Right like you if you fixate yourself on replacing Deshaun
Watson three years before, you can, you just digging a
hole deeper.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
Well, okay, opportunistic, Let's why why can't I say, let's
play it by year. Let's play it by year? You know,
to me, there's some overlap here to what the Bears
just went through. The Bears ended up with unbelievable draft
capital and still had now granted, a player on a

(01:27:18):
rookie contract, but a player that they said, Yeah, there's
a huge difference. But but the similarity is you're sitting
there looking at him like, look, we're not gonna We're
not gonna like keep him in not play him. We're
not one hundred sure on him. He probably needs another look,

(01:27:39):
but we're not passing up on this opportunity. And I'm
not a draft knick, so I don't know the ins
and outs of next year's quarterback draft class coming out
of college.

Speaker 4 (01:27:51):
But the door.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
Yepho.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
But are there any Caleb Williams.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
No, no, no, no, no no no no no no no.

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
But somewhere over the next two years, depending on how
this goes, if you end up in a spot where
there's a guy you can't pass out, you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
Yeah, but I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
I would suggest that I.

Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
See that, but once again, you may not. There's also, Caroline,
there are teams that are in far worse position than
you are, and you may not fall into one of
those spots. I'm having them pick right around five to
six every year for the next three years, based.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
Off with the roster they have.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
So at five or six, do you will you be
able to find that guy at five or six, or
will you be able to get the best left tackle
in our right tackle in the draft at that position,
which you are going to need when you do make
the move. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
No, and I listen, I get the concept. I just
wonder it sort of feels like we're watching the New
York Giants, who, by the way, they just went into
score the game. Yep, if the extra point is good,
we've got a doozy. But anyway, like in.

Speaker 3 (01:29:20):
Two years, Dominic uh, what's his name, Rayola? What's not
his father? Dominic Dylan, Dylan Roola, He'll be available now
you make the move, Okay, fine, right, And that's in
two years. The Giants, they they bid off a terrible

(01:29:40):
contract and they knew it, and then they opted to
come do this again next year. Anyway, And so that's
kind of what I'm getting at. Like, the Browns are
not in a situation at least to me.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
If you've watched enough of this now, you know, I
know that it's been fits and starts and injuries and
suspensions and all that stuff. But Deshaun Watson in the
Cleveland uniform has never looked like he used to in Houston.

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
He won't look like that ever.

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
It will not look like that ever again.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
It just it's.

Speaker 3 (01:30:16):
The league is unforgiving and it's extremely fast. It's very
difficult to recapture something that you lost, especially when it's
due to inactivity and other circumstances. It's it's it that,
guess what, time never goes back. It's hard to recapture time.

(01:30:40):
That was my biggest problem with although I did think
he deserved another opportunity, But the further away from the
game we got the time he played was the Kaepernick situation. Yep, right,
they were as late as last year. People were like,
well Kaepernick. I'm like, hey man, okay, please, the game

(01:31:05):
doesn't work like that, especially at that position. Defenses have changed,
Offenses have changed. An offense that was ran five years
ago is now obsolete almost the new defenses. I remember

(01:31:29):
a time when I played. The team nobody wanted to
play defensively was the Pittsburgh Steelers because of the exotic
looks that they would give you. Everybody got them now.
Everybody has them now.

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:31:50):
Players are faster, bigger, stronger, cover more range. Everybody has
them now. So the thing that we don't see or
people don't see, is what's happened in the game while
a person isn't active, and then to have that person

(01:32:14):
jump on the speeding train trying to keep up.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
It's hard to do.

Speaker 3 (01:32:20):
New situation, new people, new coaches, new offensive coordinator, new teammate.
It's all difficult. Now they're just hoping that they can
find a semblance of him. When he led the league
in passing, his interceptions had always been high in my opinion,
but they were looking for that magic in Houston.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
And in Houston he had you know what's uh, what's
the name the receiver?

Speaker 3 (01:32:53):
Yeah, after Andrey Deandres Right, they were best friends.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (01:33:00):
Then they traded him and he was like what and
then it just was all downhill. And so he's never
had that bond with anybody else like he did in Houston.
And I don't know if this is the case, but

(01:33:21):
is it a respect thing? Do guys feel a certain
type of way based on his own actions and the
things that have transpired. Is anybody going to hang out
and spent like you get what I'm saying. All of
that matters.

Speaker 1 (01:33:40):
Are the whole or around him has been really if.

Speaker 3 (01:33:43):
You're not if you play on Sunday, are guys coming
over to the house and watching Monday night football?

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
Are you at the team dinners on Thursday?

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
Like? What does what does that dynamic look like? Are
people like, nah, I'm cool. I I don't even want
to get caught up in whatever that is because I
would be like, I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna
go do something else, right, But these are the things
that we don't see. That level of camaraderie that goes

(01:34:16):
from the locker room onto the field.

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
That's a real thing, no doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:34:25):
Well, especially since we brought Daniel Jones into this conversation.
I just remembered I asked you that question earlier and
we never got around the answer, which is who's had
the most ego breaking year so far? Between Daniel Jones,
Will Levis and Bryce Young. So we'll do that coming

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done yet, not even close. Bengals have gone back in
the lead. Little field goal how to touchdown by Chase
Brown get called back, so they're up ten to seven.

(01:35:31):
Dodgers lead six to nothing. Steve de Seger along with
further details coming up in just about six minutes. So
all right, how would you answer that question? Who's had
sort of the most ego breaking year so far? Between
Daniel Jones, Will Levis and Bryce Young, And just a
quick blurb on each would be that Daniel Jones was

(01:35:52):
openly almost replaced on HBO, Will Levis has been called
out repeatedly by his coach in press conferences after the games.
And Bryce Young, the number one overall pick from last year,
has lost his job. How'd you answer it?

Speaker 3 (01:36:14):
It is Bryce Young, and that's easy because the other
two are still playing. There you go, yeah, the other
two are still playing. And Bryce Young was number one
pick in the draft. The person who was picked second

(01:36:35):
has outplayed him last year and this year he was
replaced by you know, someone who is not considered a
starter in this league anymore, and the team is still bad.

(01:36:55):
So yeah, in terms of ego crushing, that would do it,
because because as long as I was still in the
starting lineup and had an opportunity to go out there
and change the narrative, whether I did or not, I
had the opportunity. He doesn't even have that, So that
would be ego crushing to the point where he doesn't

(01:37:16):
know what's going on or when.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
He will get back out there. That'd be devastating for
me as a player.

Speaker 1 (01:37:26):
Yeap, Like I get that. I get that, And obviously
I know some minds will go to money, and Daniel
Jones financially is a made man.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
He's fine, he's going to I mean that money softens
the blow.

Speaker 1 (01:37:39):
Yes, Bryce Young to a lesser degree. Also true, not
that kind of money, but number one overall, picked money
ain't bad.

Speaker 3 (01:37:47):
Yeah, but not getting money after that one is the thing, right, Like, sure,
Daniel Jones on his second contract, he may not get
another one like that, but he got it. It's making
forty million dollars a year. So not to have the

(01:38:08):
opportunity and he only had one sub part year as
a starter. Bryce Young is not even in he he
can't even put that string that together.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
It's only had one year periods.

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:22):
One year and what two games? So yeah, I mean
if I were him, I'd have a little panic around.
There was another high draft pick who is no longer
in the league anymore and was replaced right away and
then went to another team and replaced.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
Remember Josh Rosen. Of course where is he? I don't know,
do you know?

Speaker 1 (01:38:56):
Josh Rosen was a top two pick and this was
the same year that was Josh Allen's draft. Correct, Yeah,
let's see twenty eighteen NFL draft. It is Baker Mayfield's draft.
Baker Mayfield, who has totally revitalized himself and by the way,

(01:39:21):
so has the number three overall pick from that draft.
You remember who it was.

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
Who was that?

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
Well, he happens to be leading the race for MVP
in the minds of some right now. Check this out.
This is a fascinating top ten in terms of quarterbacks.
Back in twenty eighteen. Baker Mayfield goes number one overall,

(01:39:50):
ends up bouncing around. He's left for dead. He's now
revitalized himself and won another football game. Today, he's clearly
the start going forward in Tampa Bay. But for a
minute it looked like of the four quarterbacks drafted in
that top ten that year, only Josh Allen was a success.

(01:40:13):
Now it turns out maybe only Josh Rosen was not
a success. The number three overall pick was to the
New York Jets, and they selected one Sam Darnold, and
Sam of course left for dead Jets Carolina a backup
year in San Francisco, now five and oh five and

(01:40:35):
oh with good stuff around him, good coaching, And then
Josh Allen went number seven, Josh Rosen number ten to
the Arizona Cardinals.

Speaker 2 (01:40:46):
He owed the league, well, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
You got I mean, this is sort of the point
I was making about Deshaun, very very different with that
amount of money guaranteed in DeShawn versus just someone on
a rookie deal. But if memory serves, Josh Rosen got
drafted in twenty eighteen, and the Cardinals ended up with
the number one overall pick and took Kyler Murray. The
next next year.

Speaker 3 (01:41:09):
The next year, yeah, the very next year they they
traded Roseen to Miami. Yes, And then the next year
after that they drafted to right, was that no? Without
they Ah what did they do after that?

Speaker 1 (01:41:24):
You're talking about Miami? Yeah, Well, Josh Rosen by the
time he started bouncing around, was no longer like he
wasn't being acquired to be someone's starter, right, He was
kind of acchoired to like, let's get a look at him.
But yeah, he went Dolphins twenty nineteen. He split twenty
twenty between the Bucks and Niners, twenty twenty one Falcons,

(01:41:48):
and then off season and practice squad member for the
Browns and Vikings in twenty twenty two and then out
the league.

Speaker 2 (01:41:56):
Wow four years?

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
Yeah, four years. Only did he not get the fifty
year option picked up. He wasn't even in the league.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
Four years.

Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
Four years.

Speaker 2 (01:42:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:42:09):
So if i'm if I'm Bryce Young, I'm like, oh no,
oh no, because if Carolina gets the first pick in
the draft, what do you think they're gonna do?

Speaker 1 (01:42:27):
Well? Sure, right, yeah, I think the writings on the wall, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:42:31):
The trajectory he's on right now.

Speaker 3 (01:42:35):
Whether someone fills the need or they have the energy
of patients to try to rehabilitate him. Once that does happen,
and they take your door or or one of you
know whoever pans out to be the top pick in
the draft, then yeah, what do you do?

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
Like it's it's one of those situations where like, man,
this might be it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:01):
Yep, absolutely it might be it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:03):
So yeah, he, I.

Speaker 3 (01:43:04):
Would say, his ego is crushed. Oh and he doesn't
play baseball, does he? Because not that I know of,
he doesn't have that to fall back on.

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
No, no, not, he does not. He does not.

Speaker 1 (01:43:19):
Speaking of veterans who can come in and stabilize a situation.

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
Starter from the get go, any team, any anywhere on
the planet, we.

Speaker 1 (01:43:30):
Give you Steve the Seger, hello, gentlemen.

Speaker 6 (01:43:33):
And Josh Roson, by the way, a fantastic youth tennis player.
They said, by the way, before going to UCLA, his
NFL signing bonus was over ten million dollars. After the
short NFL career, went back to UCLA finished degree, and
they said he has been accepted to the fame Wharton
School of Business at Penn. So Josh Rosen is an
ivy leaguer. Now there you go, hey, good of economics.

(01:44:00):
You hit it right on the head, Mark Willard last hour.
As far as the TV ratings, an awful NFL game
or something else on TV like playoffs, what would get
the higher Well, the NFL kind of has a head
start over whatever else is on TV first share. And
I think Thursday Night Football is a really good example
of what a cash cow the NFL is because that's

(01:44:21):
streaming only, and Thursday Night Football this year, for example,
is averaging fourteen million viewers. Most TV shows don't get
four million viewers. And this isn't on TV unless your
local team is playing in it that night. Amazon is
paying a billion dollars a year for the exclusivity for
Thursday Night on an eleven year contract. There's just no

(01:44:43):
end to I don't see how they have enough time
to count the money actually in the NFL offices, cash
cow is the proper term. Well, what's going on at
Dodger Stadium is dominance. For one game, la leads the
Mets in the top of the eighth six nothing. What
has gone on with the Dodger pitching staff is historic
a National League playoff record. This past week, they've now

(01:45:04):
thrown thirty one consecutive scoreless innings. The all time record
is thirty three straight scoreless in the postseason, set by
the nineteen sixty six Orioles Dodgers up six to nothing
in the eighth. This is Game one of the NLCS
on Fox TV. Game two is Monday afternoon, also on
Fox four PM Eastern Time. Games three and four will

(01:45:25):
be Wednesday and Thursday nights in New York. Game five
of the NLCS would be Friday in New York. Now
the New York Yankees are in the ALCS, and the
Yanks will host Cleveland Monday and Tuesday nights for games
one and two. As for Kyle Larson, he won easily
at Charlotte and the NASCAR Race, his sixth victory of
the year. The seventy six ers are holding Joel Embiid

(01:45:46):
out of the rest of the preseason due to his knee.
Philadelphia's regular season openers in about a week and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
I think we've heard this before.

Speaker 6 (01:45:54):
In the WNBA Finals, New York took Game two over Minnesota,
best of five series tied at a game apiece. And
then there's the NFL contest tonight, where with ten minutes
to go, Bengals lead ten to seven at the Giants
and Cincinnati's lone touchdown came on the first drive of
the night. Quarterback Joe Burrows forty seven yard touchdown run.

(01:46:15):
There were nine total punts in the first half of
this one, Detroit all over Dallas forty seven to nine,
Jared Goff three touchdown passes, but Lions star defensive end
Aiden Hutchinson was carted off with not only a leg injury,
it is a tibia fracture. There's no way he's playing
again this season. They didn't say that out loud. There's
no way he's playing again this season.

Speaker 1 (01:46:36):
There's no way he's playing out loud, even.

Speaker 6 (01:46:38):
If it wasn't a compound fracture. He's staying in the
hospital overnight and had to have emergency surgery today, like
while the game was going on, I will.

Speaker 1 (01:46:48):
Throw in and I know that you know, the Twitter
doctors are not actually there and all of that. But
I feel, based on reading all of that stuff, very
confident it is a compound fracture, meaning tibia and the
fibia and the tibula. But not like an Alex Smith
situation where this actually.

Speaker 6 (01:47:10):
No goes in the next year or something like right right.

Speaker 1 (01:47:13):
Right, right right, full recovery.

Speaker 6 (01:47:15):
Expected, yes, for twenty twenty five. Meanwhile, this is a
Detroit team this four and one and next Sunday, we'll
be at five in oh Minnesota. By the way, update
from the Giants, they have missed a forty seven yard
field goal wide left. They're still trailing at home ten
to seven to the Bengals with about ten minutes left.
Atlanta one at Carolina thirty eight to twenty. Panthers d

(01:47:36):
was allowing thirty three points per game, easily the worst
in the NFL, gave up thirty eight in this one,
Pittsburgh actually trailing in the first half. One at Las
Vegas thirty two thirteen Justin Field's two touchdown runs. Chargers
led at Denver twenty three to nothing early fourth quarter
twenty three sixteen the final. Tampa Bay blew in early

(01:47:56):
seventeen nothing lead but won fifty one to twenty seven.
At New Orleans, the Ravens won their fourth straight game,
thirty to twenty three over Washington. Derrick Henry two touchdown runs.
At Green Bay Jordan Love four touchdowns thirty four to thirteen.
Packers over Arizona. Indianapolis won at Tennessee twenty to seventeen,
even though quarterback Anthony Richardson was still out with the

(01:48:17):
oblique injury. Running back Jonathan Taylor was out with the
ankle injury. Titans are now zero to three at home.
Houston got Joe Mixon back and won at New England
forty one to twenty one, mixing thirteen carries, one hundred
two yards and a touchdown. Philadelphia beat Cleveland twenty to sixteen.
Brown's offense last in the league. It was under two
hundred and forty total yards per game, had only two

(01:48:39):
forty four in this game and in London. Chicago got
four touchdown passes from Caleb Williams beat Jacksonville thirty five sixteen,
and the University of Texas is still number one in
the College Football polls Oregon up to number two, Penn
State up to number three.

Speaker 1 (01:48:53):
Back to you, Steve, great stuff tonight is always thank
you so much so Steve.

Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
Thanks Steve.

Speaker 1 (01:48:59):
We are alive in the Time dot com studios from
Have you ever been a part of a team that
fired the coach during the season? No, no, no, okay.
I was curious about that because I was in a
conversation with a friend this week who said, you know,
like there is usually a bounce for the team when

(01:49:21):
they change the coach. In other words, he's expecting a
little bit better version of the Jets tomorrow night, because
I can see that change.

Speaker 3 (01:49:33):
I can see that, but all of that hinges on
Aaron Rodgers. So maybe from everybody else, but it won't
be noticeable. It'll be noticeable at the quarterback position because
his play has been so poor. I mean, I just
can't get over the three interceptions literally in a one

(01:49:55):
score game. I keep saying that because that's where elite
quarterbacks thrive to be in that position, having the ball
at the end of the game with a chance to
win it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:08):
That's how you become who you are first ballot. And
to watch how that transpired, it it just blew my mind.

Speaker 1 (01:50:20):
Yep, Well, I'm with you on that, but there's something
else with the Jets that blows my mind. And I
do wonder. You know, sometimes when there's a coaching change,
there's a little bit of a back to basics feel,
which is like, hey, how did we get away from XYZ?
Can we go back to that?

Speaker 2 (01:50:37):
Yeah? But I don't think they've had ever had that
with Aaron Rodgers. There, that's not.

Speaker 1 (01:50:42):
Aaron, not with Aaron. But this is what I'm getting at.
If I had told you before the year started that
five games into this season, Brice Hall wouldn't yet have
two hundred total yards rushing, not receiving. But he's under
two hundred yards rushing five games in. You would say, well,

(01:51:05):
when did he get hurt? He didn't. He was out. Yeah,
three yards per carry, and over the last couple of
weeks they they've just flat stopped giving him the ball.
I gotta think that he is in line. He's going
to be featured a bigger role tomorrow night. Yeah, he's

(01:51:28):
got me thought that would make sense to me, you know,
not not saying that Braylan Allen hasn't been exciting and good.
He has, but I just but.

Speaker 2 (01:51:40):
I don't care who they give it to. Man's got
to give it to him.

Speaker 1 (01:51:42):
Correct, agreed, Agreed, Yeah, all right. Mark Wildy from Salam
speaking of looking ahead, we'll do that not only to
tomorrow night, but a little bit further coming out next
on Fox Sports Radio a tie rag dot com Studios.
It's dramatic, it's coming down the stretch. It's six and

(01:52:03):
a half minutes to go in a ten to seven game.
The Ben goes leading the Giants and the Giants are driving.
We'll keep you up to date there for sure. Joe
burrow into the blue tent for a second there from
I don't know if you saw the yeah I did.

Speaker 2 (01:52:22):
He had a pretty Hilasia hit Halasia's hit by Burns, but.

Speaker 1 (01:52:26):
A legal one.

Speaker 2 (01:52:27):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, leg one.

Speaker 7 (01:52:29):
I will say that I don't know, are you noticing
this too, that it feels like they've taken their foot
just to touch off the gas of the whole, like
you can't touch the quarterback thing.

Speaker 3 (01:52:46):
I just think guys are trained better to how they're
approaching the situation because obviously it wasn't changing, so you
had to, you know, instead of being mad about it.
As a defensive line culture, a defensive coordinator, you had
to make adjustments. And I think guys are being conscious
of the way they attack and approach quarterbacks and especially

(01:53:08):
taking them to the ground.

Speaker 2 (01:53:09):
So you know, shout out to the coaches coaching. I mean,
that's what they're there for, right.

Speaker 3 (01:53:16):
You just complain about it is one thing, but to actually,
you know, go out there and try to you know,
not take away the.

Speaker 2 (01:53:26):
Aggression of your pass rush.

Speaker 3 (01:53:30):
But by like he hit him square on and as
he was going through the ground, he just let him
go right landed on him, but not his full body weight.

Speaker 1 (01:53:39):
Well, that's the thing. I feel like there are at
least four different ways where you can do it illegally.
You hit him high, they hit them low, you land
on them, or you hit them late, all of those things.
And so for me, like, I'm with what you're saying,

(01:54:00):
but at the same time, I've always found it to
be incredibly difficult. The idea of like go full speed
and then when you get there, stop and make sure
you're doing it right like that. Yeah, that seems very difficult.
You're like, by any means necessary, I'm trying to get
to that QB and then when I get there, I've

(01:54:20):
got to stop and think about how I go about
bringing them to the ground.

Speaker 3 (01:54:26):
Yeah, that's that's that's tough, But it's really tough. The
game evolves. You used to be able to tear receiver's
head off going across the middle.

Speaker 1 (01:54:38):
So we talked a little bit about tomorrow night. By
the time you and I get back together, in fact,
there will be a football game that will have just ended,
probably about twenty minutes before we start, and it just
so happens to be a rematch of the Super Bowl
Kansas City Chiefs and the San Francisco fort Niners next week.

(01:55:02):
The Chiefs are coming off of bye Andy Reid almost
never loses coming off.

Speaker 2 (01:55:07):
Of a buy hard to beat them very hard.

Speaker 1 (01:55:10):
The Niners are coming off of a mini buy because
they played on Thursday night. Both teams are very banged up.
The Chiefs record is perfect, though their performance is not
the forty nine ers performance. My opinion is not reflected
by their three and three record. But handicap this thing

(01:55:31):
for me. What do you think we're looking at next weekend?

Speaker 2 (01:55:35):
Where is it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:38):
In San Francisco?

Speaker 3 (01:55:40):
I'd say it'd probably be San Francisco by two and
a half.

Speaker 1 (01:55:47):
Oh, actually, I can tell you what the number is
meant I meant more along the lines, what do you
think we're looking at? The number opened at your your
very your very call with your number. The number opened
it too, and was immediately was immediately back to one
and a half, and then as far as and now

(01:56:10):
I'm looking at alive.

Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
Hey, do you want to get fired it?

Speaker 1 (01:56:16):
What's what's happening?

Speaker 2 (01:56:17):
You want to know how you get fired?

Speaker 1 (01:56:19):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:56:19):
Good lord? I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:56:24):
Be in field goal range and go go for it
on fourth and three and don't get it. You down
by three well, the kicker did just miss I guess.
I'm like, but I mean, I'm with you, I'm with you.
What yard line? Exactly where they at? I didn't see that, Like,

(01:56:47):
uh was it the I'll grab it for you. They're
at the Cincinnati thirty six. So you're looking at a
fifty three yarder. Yeah, yeah, you're right. Yeah, that's a
terrible that's a terrible. You gotta go, you gotta you
gotta get those points. I mean, this is a professional.
You're paying a million dollars to kick a ball. When

(01:57:11):
do you start well, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:57:13):
Well, and then it's fifty three yard not even that
big a deal.

Speaker 3 (01:57:16):
Yeah, because now it's the illness is not on you,
as the coach making a terrible decision.

Speaker 2 (01:57:22):
It's on the kicker who didn't kick. Do his job.

Speaker 3 (01:57:27):
You do your job and let the people do their job.
Don't do their job for him, because now that's how
you lose your job. In a three point game, you're
in field goal position and you go for fourth and
three and you throw a pass that no one was
ever gonna catch. I don't I don't know what that is.

Speaker 1 (01:57:49):
I can't tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:57:51):
It's hard for me to wrap my head around that
and make make it make sense.

Speaker 1 (01:57:55):
That's a it's a pretty crazy decision. Goodness, man, it's
a pretty easy to say.

Speaker 3 (01:58:00):
You have a team that's on the one and four,
you have an opportunity to change the narrative of your season,
and you do that because I can answer the question

(01:58:20):
in the press conference, well, why'd you go for the
field goal?

Speaker 2 (01:58:23):
Well, I went for the tie.

Speaker 3 (01:58:26):
I went for the tie because that confident in our kicker,
and I had confidence in what our defense was doing.
We're at home. I went for the tie. That's an
easy press conference for me. Why would you call that play?
Why wouldn't you take the three points? I can't go

(01:58:47):
out there and be like, I didn't trust my kicker.

Speaker 1 (01:58:49):
Yeah, I don't know how Well we're going to find out.
We're going to find out. Yeah that point, that receiver
was never open.

Speaker 2 (01:58:57):
It was never open.

Speaker 1 (01:58:59):
It was never open. Yeah, that's crazy, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:59:03):
I just in my head sometimes. I'm sorry, man, I
didn't mean it.

Speaker 1 (01:59:05):
All good, All good. That spread is down to one, Okay,
the Niners are favorite back it okay.

Speaker 2 (01:59:11):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:59:15):
I think we're going to figure out if the Kansas
City Chiefs are going to turn the corner offensively because
the forty nine ers are gonna put a lot of
pressure on them. They're going to have to score points.
They're going to have to score points to beat the
forty nine ers, and so I would. The Niners aren't

(01:59:37):
going to beat themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:59:39):
I can't wait for that one already. Good stuff tonight,
my man forty from Salama, Mark Whillard, Fox Sports Radio,

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