Steve Hartman & Monse Bolaños Preview the NFL Offseason, Talk NBA All-Star Weekend & More!

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Well, Matci here we are here. We are on the
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I know, and a lot of people will ask, what
are you guys gonna talk about now?

Speaker 5 (00:37):
It's like the Clippers obviously.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Well I pause for a seconds saying, okay, the.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Dead body, so to speak, that is the NFL twenty
twenty four twenty five season is.

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Not cold yet. There's still plenty of heat on that body.

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And as long as there's still a breath that we
can assitate, we're going to take advantage of that. Adam
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Speaker 3 (01:12):
So we're going to cover it all.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Obviously, it's all star weekend for the NBA the Monsey
congratulations again on beating me this year in our NFL picks,
despite my vain attempts to somehow, some way twist the
rules in my favor backfired every single time. But I'm
not going to end our coverage of the football season

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without crowing about the best pick that I made all season.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Long, because I never wavered on this pick.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
I mean for two weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yes, I was never wavering for a moment that the
Eagles would not only win the Super Bowl, but by
double digits. And I didn't predict you know, thirty four,
nothing lead, nothing like that. But I just felt, again
there were a lot of people hesitant to pick the
Eagles based on being athorized by the Chiefs that Mahomes

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will never lose, that the games are fixed, it's bet
bad to bet against Mahomes. And I remember remember some
of those stats we had, like, all right, Mahomes was
eight to zero against a Vic Fangio defense. He was
three and zero against teams in playoff games that had
the number one rated defense in the regular season, and

(02:27):
Mike Counter was, all right, you're giving me absolutes, like
it's never happened I'll give you another never happened. No
team's ever won three straight Super Bowls. Okay that one.
Trump's all of them. And we saw why it's difficult.
The Chiefs did not really pass the smell test if
you were to take Mahomes and really everything out of

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the equation. Other than just judging these two teams based
on what they did in twenty twenty four, the eyeball
test was clear. Yep, the Eagles had a better team
players on both sides of the football.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
They were the better team in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
So based on what I saw and to me it
wasn't really close, and how the Eagles looked on both
sides of the football as compared to the Chiefs. That's
why I said, I'm looking for an Eagle's double digit
win and for once, for once, reasoning actually worked, right.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
You know, my.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Excuse on my bad picks is always the same, the
more you know, the less you know. But this time
I just said, let's take a step back. You kept
it simple eyeball test, which team looks better? And I'm like,
not only the Eagles look better, they look much better,
and obviously they prove that in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
So I man, maybe I was drinking the Chiefs kool
aid and I didn't see it because that team. It
was a bad game for the Chiefs. But I also
thought going into that game that the Eagles on paper,
had the better roster. I did think that. I just
thought the coaching I was giving the edge to the Chiefs.
And that's why my prediction was a close game, that

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they were gonna win by a one score game. Again,
that's really what I thought was gonna happen, that the
coaching was gonna give the Chiefs the edge. But that game, Wow,
it was clear as day who the better team was.
Early on, like, I don't care if it was only
seven zero. I was like, this is gonna be a
bad game for the Chiefs already. Already early on in

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the first quarter, I was like, this is not looking good.
They just came out very It wasn't even dominant. They
just looked like you said, the eyeball test. Right away,
it was like, this is the better team. They are
fully equipped to handle the Chiefs, who had no run game,
didn't even try. But once you go down, it's hard
to kind of try to go to the run game, right.
But it was a good job Eagles, And I don't

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want to take away from the Eagles. It wasn't that
the Chiefs were bad and a bad game. No, no, no,
the Eagles were excellent. It was both.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
It was it was absolutely I mean think about it again.
The Eagles had more points in the first half, twenty four.
Then the Chiefs had total yards twenty three. Yeah, one
first down in twenty three total yards. And then you
could see Fox, you know, scrambling at halftime. We can't
lose our audience. You know, by the way, it was
the most watched Super Bowl of all time. You'd come

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up with something at halftime. You could see the analysts
were scrambling, you know, all right, Chiefs had the ball
first in the second half, they get quick score, they
get right back in this game, right, and then you
know they got a first down and then back to
back sacks as Mahomes went down scrambling for his life
back there, they had a pun and was you know,
next thing, you know, bombs away thirty four and nothing

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before you knew it.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
I mean, it was complete demolition.

Speaker 5 (05:42):
How do you think those AFC teams like the Bills,
the Ravens, how do you think they felt watching that
game or all the teams that played the Chiefs this year,
y'all let them win so many games.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
I have a theory about this.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
What is the theory?

Speaker 2 (05:58):
So when you watch the Bills game, the AFC Championship game, the.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Bills had zero turnovers.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yes, they scored four touchdowns, but you had a sense
with the Bills throughout that game that no matter what
we do, we're gonna lose.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
They walked in with that mentality.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
They really felt like they had that mentality your dog gain.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
I'll tell you a team that doesn't have that mentality
is the Bengals.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, but they have to get two of the playoffs
obviously to take on the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
And the Eagles were not spooked at all.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
The biggest thing I said about the Eagles, forget all
the stats, everything, to me, the most important aspect of
the Eagles in this Super Bowl is they had been
there before. Yes, and they know looking back at two
years ago in Super Bowl fifty seven, had it not
been for that fluky fumble where Hertz just drops the
ball and it's picked up a run back for a
touchdown by the Chiefs, they easily could have won that game.

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So they came to New Orleans prepared. They weren't overawed
by being the Super Bowl. They had just been there
a couple of years before. Outside of Saquon Barklaying a
handful of players, all of them were back from two
years ago, so that wasn't going to overwhelm them being
at the super Bowl. They knew what the Super Bowl
experience was about. Now we just got to execute and
that's exactly what they did. So it just I couldn't

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have been happier.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
No, absolutely, But the overreaction.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
To the Chiefs losing was shameless.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
I mean when I when I'm hearing people actually calling
for the head of any Reid, I'm like, come on,
let's the guy has been to the Super Bowl five
of the last six years.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
You know, some people just need to say crazy things occasionally.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, but it doesn't even make any sense.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
It doesn't make it.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
It makes sense zero.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Why don't you If you're going to call for the
head of any Reid, you better be calling for the
head of Sean McDermott. Oh yeah, right, who can't even
get to the game. Yep. So I mean, just that's
to me, it's pure stupidity. I mean, you're just making
stupid comments is what you're making. And I heard way
too many met people trying to make this argument and
I'm like, you're not making any sense.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
It makes no sense.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
What the Chiefs do need to.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Do though, as they get ready for next season, try
to get back on track. And I'm with Patrick Mahomes. Look,
they didn't give up. I mean, it was garbage time,
but they were making places Worthy obviously looks like a
potential star of the future for them what he did
in garbage time and piling up some nice receptions. But
it shows you again the character of Patrick Mahomes. It

(08:27):
just you know, it's interesting about Mahomes. For second, here
is that, you know, the conversation about the goat. So
he did a pregame interview with Tom Brady, So here's
like the goat versus potentially the guy that's going to
pass the goat.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
But can you really.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Put Mahomes in the conversation as the goat when the
two most one sided losses of his entire career both
been Super Bowls.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
Yeah, it's it's something to definitely think about. I don't
put as much. I think there's so much more to
Patrick mahomes care that I hate this conversation because what
are we going to be saying in five years, Let's
see what happens. Because he's so young, there's so much
to do. Because what if in the next five years
he went a couple of more and he does it
in dominant fashion. Are we going to hold those two losses,

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obviously one of them to the top, Tom Brady? Are
we going to hold those losses if he ends up
still having a great career. It's just so early to
have that discussion. In my opinion, I hate it. I
hate it. I am not holding those two losses necessarily
with so much weight right now. Right now, I could,
you know, view it differently depending on what happens the

(09:35):
Chiefs Before we completely move on from that game, I
really thought their defense did everything they could. It was
really like, where is your offense?

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Where was the offense this whole season? Well, they focused
on Saquon Barkley. They have the worst game current of
this season. You know the fact that Hurts actually had
more rushing yards than Saquon had in this game.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
So we talked about that.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
I mean, You're like, Okay, we're going to shut down
Saquon Barker, all right, We're not going to let this
guy go off on us.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
And if Jalen Hurts beats us, so be it.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
That being said, he should not have been the MVP
of this game.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
Who would you have given it to?

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Well, I mean there's a guy that had two and
a half sacks on the on the edge. Yeah, I
mean in the first half when it mattered. The game
was over at half time. Yeah, twenty three total yards
and one first down for the Chiefs, Patrick Mahomes and
you Reid.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
That was the story of the game. Nothing against Hurts.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
I mean, he broke his own record for most rushing
yards by a quarterback and a Super Bowl. You know,
the bomb obviously to Devontae Smith, which, by the way,
crazy stat right, first Alabama player ever to score a
touchdown and a Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
Can I heard that or read that?

Speaker 2 (10:42):
I was like, really, really, what's interesting because the first
three Super Bowl MVPs were Bart Star, Bart Star, and
Joe Namath, all Alabama.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
Interesting, so we're no Alabama.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Player it ever scored a touchdown. But that's where the
game was won.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
Yeah. Yeah, But Hurts was great. Hurts did everything he
was supposed to do and then some he was great.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
It's redemption game.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
It was a defensive mastermind by the Eagles, and I
you know, you can't give it to all the defensive players,
including Cooper dejen with that pick six. Like, I hear
what you're saying. But Hurts had a great game from
top to bottom? Did it all that throw? Like you mentioned,
he just they forced Hurts to beat them, and Hurts
was like.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Got it again.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
I was just I just I just thought Josh Swett
should have won it. I mean, he just two and
a half sacks. You know, he had six tackles and
he's obviously not the biggest name guy, but that was
all the first half.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
I mean, it was like that was where the game
was won.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
He did get a number of votes for the MVP,
but in the end they gave it to Hurts, which
you know, again they give it to the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
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Speaker 3 (12:22):
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Speaker 3 (12:51):
So you had a good Super Bowl viewing party?

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (12:55):
I mean with my vegan wings. I told you I
was gonna try it.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
I know, the vegan wing. How did that go over?

Speaker 5 (13:01):
I went to a new place and I love them
different from the ones I made you try that you loved,
you just don't want to admit it. They were really good,
and so no, we stayed in and had some vegan
wings and pizza and enjoyed the game, even though it
was very not what I was expecting.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Well, it was what I predicted, thank you very much.
As I predicted an Eagles blowout win. Let's find out
from a man that knows the NFL way better than
we do. He of Chorus is our NFL insider of
the great. Adam Kaplan is joining us right now. So Adam,
before we start to look ahead to next season, there's
plenty to get to as we already are turning the page. Yep,

(13:41):
how surprised or were you surprised at how good and
how bad.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
The Chiefs were in Super Bowl fifty nine.

Speaker 7 (13:50):
Well, Steve, I got both right. I picked the Eagles
and I had the game going over the total. But
I got to talk to and not only give you credit,
but Jason Levant was one of seven former players that
I talked to during media row. Steve, we want to
get it right last week that predicted it a Eagles blowout.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
I just this is the what I gathered.

Speaker 7 (14:09):
Okay, this is the interviews I did with sports Grid
of probably close to fifty former players and current players.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
So everyone kind of thought.

Speaker 7 (14:18):
That the Chiefs, hey, they're a good team, but at
some point for winning all these close games and just
barely winning and they've not been.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Very impressive offensively.

Speaker 7 (14:27):
At some point someone's got to exploit them, and that's
what happened. I think I asked you that when when
you surprised me with that last week prior to the game,
you seem to indicate that and Jason Evatt, former Chief
and Eagle, by the way, receiver played for Andy Reid,
was drifted by Andy Reid. Jason was pretty strong that
the Chiefs just didn't have it and that game, the

(14:48):
fact that was never competitive from the start of the game,
is just incredible. That that's the part, Steve, to answer
your question, that's the part that surprised me. None of
it was not from pillar to poe. The game was
not competitive for even a minute. That's what's hard to believe.

Speaker 5 (15:03):
Yeah, I'm with you, Adam. What roster right now do
you think matches the Eagles the most.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
In terms of the whole NFL?

Speaker 5 (15:12):
Yeah, just because I feel like the Eagles really, at
least on the most important game of the year super Bowl,
they showcase that they are the best from top to
bottom sure defense, offense. So now, who do you think
matches the most of the Eagles coming into next year?

Speaker 1 (15:28):
I think Baltimore. Baltimore.

Speaker 7 (15:30):
Look, they the Eagles handle them really well. In fact,
probably one of the worst losses they had the season,
the Eagles physically beat them. But with Lamar Jackson playing
so great this season, I know he's got to do
better than the playoffs, but he had a really good season.
They had a lot of problems defensively with Zach or
their new defense Quador of the first half, but they
got themselves together.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
They're right there, there's no question about it. Detroit.

Speaker 7 (15:52):
Also, when you talk who are the elite teams, let's
move this forward, the Lions, the Eagles. Of course they
won the Super Bowl, Eagles would be number one. Lions
are right there. They're gonna they know they have issues
with depth. They got to do a better job of
having better players to come in like the Eagles did
when they had injuries. The Chiefs, you know, guys, I

(16:13):
gotta be honest with you. I think we now know
they're not as good as a lot of us thought
they were. And they're not. They're not on the same
level of the Eagles, clearly or not. And that's it now.
The Eagles, I have to tell you, they have three
pretty significant free agents it's unlikely they'll keep all three.
Zach ball On the inside backer who was an All Pro,
Milt Williams. If you're an Eagles fan, you know the

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guy's a special football player. Really, it's a phenomenal football player.
And Josh Schwett, who changed agents. He's number nineteen. He's
one of their edge rushers. So it's you know, it's
not good. I mean, they could be without probably two
of them. I think at most they'll definitely resign one
of them. So that concerns me. But Detroit's going to
be back. They're right there. But the thing about Detroit

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guys is and this will be more of a factor
once you get closer to this next season. You got
two new coordinators. That does concern me. That is a
major major issue.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yeah, you mentioned Josh Sweat, who should have been the
MVP of the Super Bowl. Well, they would all do.
I mean, I mean he should have easily. I mean,
you know, two and a half. The first half, think
about it again, the Eagles had more points than the
Chiefs had total yards, twenty four to twenty three. I
mean that is one first down. That's the game was over.
Second half was meaningless. If the game was over at halftime,

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and Josh Sweat was the dominant player in that first half,
and he.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Should have been Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
But no knock on Jalen Hurts because obviously, you know,
he broke his own record for rushing yards by quarterback
in Super Bowl. I'm very happy, you know me, I've
always been a Hurts fan, so I was very happy
for him.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
All Right. I want to talk a little about Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
So now reports are coming out and he knew this
was going to happen, that he like begged the Jets
to keep them like he is begging them.

Speaker 7 (17:55):
He wanted to play. I talked to one of the
well or former coaches. He wanted to He actually wanted
to play. Now the stay part, that's that's yea, Okay,
I think sometimes we exaggerate.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Go all right, but let's let's talk about his future.
Like you know, people are saying, well, maybe the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
I'm like, what are we? What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (18:14):
The only reason that Aaron Rodgers gave for extending his
career was another opportunity to win a Super Bowl. Would
that make any sense for him to join a Raiders
team to tack on another five and twelve season on
his resume.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
That doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
I mean, unless he's been lying about his motivation. I mean,
if your motivation is well, heck, if they're going to
continue to pay me, hell yeah, I'm going to play,
that would be honest. But don't give me this garbage.
Well you know, I want an other opportunity to win
a Super Bowl. Well, if you sign with.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
A team like a Raiders, that's not why you sign
with them.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
You sign with them because they said, all right, we'll
make you the starting quarterback, and we're going to pay
you thirty forty fifty million dollars a year.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Whatever you're going to make. Let's be honest about it.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
I mean, is there any team out there that has
a legitimate roster to contend to win a Super Bowl
in twenty twenty five interested in Aaron Rodgers to be
their quarterback?

Speaker 7 (19:10):
Well, first of all, every job is taking Mahomes obviously,
can see he's out. Buffalo's out, Baltimore's out, Houston's out.
Chargers are out.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Bengals are you, Yeah, but they.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Have no chance.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
That's awful.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Detroit, no, Philly, no, Tampa. No.

Speaker 7 (19:26):
Right now, we expect Stafford to stay with the Rams,
but that's a team to watch in terms of what
they're going to do with Stafford Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
No, well, you you sold me on the whole.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
You know, you were the big seller on Rogers with
the Jets saying they've got everything but the quarterback, and
now they got one of the league quarterbacks of all time.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Well, maybe the.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Jets roster was a little overrated in retrospect. I mean,
does it make any sense for him to sign with
just a team to extend his career.

Speaker 7 (19:51):
No, No, I don't think it's Steve. It's a good thought.
In fact, there's no He's not going to be a backup.
You can shoot that down. That's not going to happen.
He turns forty two in the summer. I'm told you
the thing with him was, and this was really either
under discussed or underreported. He had two injuries at the
same time. Media MCLs bring ate a Grade two hamstering
strains my understanding. I don't know how you could. I

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don't care how old you are. If you're twenty four
years old, you're not gonna be able to perform with
those two injuries at that position. He just couldn't push
off and he's physically beaten down him that that was
a big deal.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
So no, there's no scenario. Now it's going to be hard.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Now what about Minnesota? What about San Francisco?

Speaker 7 (20:28):
Yeah, the Niners have made it clear they're extending brock
Party's contract.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Take them out of the mixed.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
What was the other team, Minnesota?

Speaker 7 (20:36):
Yeah, listen, they want Darnold back. They're going to talk
to his representatives. But I don't see them committing the
kind of money or the years to just say JJ
McCarthy's not going to be a factor down the line.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
So no, it's either one. They have one of the two.

Speaker 7 (20:51):
I mean, they have got McCarthy who got hurt against
the Raiders in his first preseason game, and they have
an opportunity to recite and Darnold.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
So no, it's it's it's.

Speaker 7 (21:02):
Fascinating, guys when you really look at it. There's just
not a lot of opportunity. But Steve, yes, there would
be an opportunity for him if he just wants to
go somewhere to saw it, to be a star with
a bad team. Yes, he can do that. Not a
team that's got a legit chance. I thought you set
that up very well. It's just right now now Pittsburgh.
I'd be stunned. If Russell Wilson's back, I'd be stunned.

(21:23):
My understanding is some some of the coaches did not
want him back, or they did not they actually wanted
a bench him. They were told no, that's something to
keep an eye on here. They also they like justin fields,
they might try to resign him. That's the team that
where you go never say never. They just if they
can't get their future quarterback, they're gonna still tape job
that they can go year to year.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
Could we see maybe Aaron Rodgers doing a Joe Flacco
where he doesn't have a team to start the season
and then maybe somebody gets hurt, he comes off.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
The couch uh oh Waite sponsor you see.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
Yeah, Like, do you think you'll you'll wait it out?

Speaker 1 (21:59):
I think you see.

Speaker 7 (22:00):
Sometimes you see these veteran quarterbacks where they were told, okay, listen,
we're not going to hand you the job, but you
could come and compete for the job, like Indianapolis right
where Anthony Richardson they're going to give him one more
year to get this right. But if you're Rogers, you
probably figured you could beat him out. I'm just we're
just thinking hypothetically here. But they're not a super Bowl team. Yeah,

(22:20):
they have no chance to win a super Bowl. The
roster's not going to now I say that, we're in
mid February. Now we've got look at who thought the
Commanders but not certainly not I who thought the Commanders
can make this type of run with that roster. By
the way, that that's the See, this is what you
don't know is what's going to happen for free agency
in the draft. Then you could start saying, Okay, who

(22:42):
are breakout teams? So that's that's It's just it is
fascinating with the Rogers situation, how.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
This thing has gone south absolutely well in the weeks ahead.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Hopefully Adam, you'll continue to join us because the NFL's
in the news three hundred and sixty five days all
that here Otherwise here we always abreege yet it. Adam,
thank you so much, and we'll check in with you
down the road. Sounds good, see the great Adam Kaplan.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
There are Fox Sports Radio, NFL insider.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
We're not going to kid ourselves with many of you
out there that say, look, with all due respect to
the NBA Major League Baseball spring training getting underway.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Great, great, I need my NFL fixed.

Speaker 5 (23:19):
We will have a like literally, there's still more things
I could ask this man.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
I mean, we could all day, every day. All right,
let's find out what is a trending right now? I
know the guy that is one hundred percent in uh
as far as the dominance of the National Football League, Martin,
were you surprised at all what happened in the Super
Bowl or did you sit back and saying, yeah, I

(23:43):
could see this happening.

Speaker 8 (23:44):
I think if you weren't surprised by what happened in
the Super Bowl, you're just lying.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
Yeah, good answer, Martin.

Speaker 8 (23:50):
Like you may have thought the Eagles were going to
be double digit face Like, that's right, particular right.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
But nobody.

Speaker 8 (23:55):
I don't think anybody in their right mind, left mind
or mine in the middle thought that we would see
Patria Holmes play quite literally the worst game of.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
His entire career. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
And by the way, the other worst game of his
career was the other Super Bowl he got blown out
by Tampa.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yeah. Is that weird?

Speaker 2 (24:09):
I mean, does that take him out of the conversation
as the goat? If the two worst games of your
entire career with super Bowl losses.

Speaker 5 (24:15):
No, thank you.

Speaker 8 (24:17):
Yeah, And it's honestly, Steven, Steven a little ridiculous, Steven.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Thank you? You call me My mother used to call
me Steven.

Speaker 8 (24:25):
Well, it's only because you've been acting out of turn
and having this level of car like.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
I'm just I'll tell you it is.

Speaker 8 (24:31):
You name your favorite quarterback and I'll show you a
playoff loss worse than Patrick Mahomes's worst.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
Well you know this.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
I'm glad you mentioned that because people will talk about
Joe Montana four to zero super Bowls, never to an interception.
He had a playoff loss of the New York Giants
where they lost forty nine to three.

Speaker 8 (24:47):
Nice Steve, that would be yep, doing him quick, a
bigger ass, well than what we saw on the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
Joe Montana.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Actually, Joe Montana had a run of three straight years
where he was one and done in the playoffs. Now
I believe, but it's like to Michael three years. It's
like the Michael Jordan. He never lost the NBA finals.
There are you discounting the other eight years of his
career that he didn't make the NBA finals? Is that
discounted he was six and oh, I'm like, well, actually

(25:15):
he was six for fourteen.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
NBA media has decided that it's going to be the case. Steve,
I'm doing my part. I expect you two to do
the same. For the NFL, we will not allow that
to happen this go around.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Well, that's my argument about Lebron being the goat, because
well he's four and six in NBA finals.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
He made the NBA finals eight straight years. I mean,
I agree, it's hard to eight years in a row.

Speaker 8 (25:38):
Yeah, I'm sorry, said you know what, Patrick Mahomes loses
the first round playoff game, call me, then we can
have this conversation.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
But when he doesn't make the playoffs, let's shot.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Call me.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, he doesn't go seven straight AFC championship games.

Speaker 8 (25:50):
And only lost the two in ties right in overtime.
It was tie game and relation boom.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
But the two bad losses were Super Bowls. That's what
happens when you're always playing the last game of the year.
You know, Tom Brady lost to Nick Foles. He did.
It was badly outplayed, but all right, see here you go.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
Nick foles tweet was great. By the way, is.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Jalen Hurts, the Eli manning of this generation. Well your thoughts.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
If he's underappreciated, then I guess the answer would be yes.
I mean very different type of quarterbacks. But you know,
I've always been a Jalen Hurts guy. I've been trying
to get him in the conversation with LEAE quarterbacks. I
asked everybody before the seal, what if he's like Super
Bowl MVP and they win big, are you gonna put
him in the conversation?

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Nah?

Speaker 2 (26:34):
I mean we we got Bo Benson, who is you know,
like the mystery Eagles guy saying he would trade him
in a heartbeat even if he wins Super Bowl MVP
for Justin Herbert.

Speaker 8 (26:44):
I also stand with you, Steve Josh what should have
been the Super Bowl MVP? And you know the whole
First what first three Super Bowl MVPs from Alabama not
scoring touchdowns?

Speaker 3 (26:55):
No one cares? Max McGee first Super Bowl snub for
MVP catches.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
One hundred and thirty eight yards two touchdowns, came off
the bench nursing a hangover when boy Doaller went down
with an injury in Super Bowl Won, which was then
called the AFL NFL channel.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
And look much you've probably never seen these highlights.

Speaker 8 (27:11):
Max McGee two one handed catches, Diney behind him, one
hand that catches.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Oh, don't beck them, eat your heart out.

Speaker 8 (27:17):
One big game going on right now, number one and
number two going out in college basketball, Auburn right now
with an eighty four to seventy eight lead over Alabama.
The Tigers number one team. Crimpton tied the second rate team. Steve,
you want to still talk about the Super Bowl a
little bit more than all right? There we go, all
right back to you guys.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Thank you very much, Thank you very much.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
Okay, Yes see, Mart gets it. Putting already this negative
talk on Patrick Mahomes. I just don't get it. I
just don't get it.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Well, again, what's happening?

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Just like we were talking earlier about the people that
want to fire Andy Reid?

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Is you old? What have you done for me lately? Okay?

Speaker 2 (27:53):
So what have we done for me lately? With Patrick Mahomes.
He's been a starting quarterback for seven years and he's
been in the AFC Championship Game seven years. Yes, he's
been in five Super Bowls and he won three Super Bowls.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
Right, I'll take that any day.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
So that's what he's done lately lately.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
Okay, just just throw it in lately back then, doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
I want to ask you about Draymond Green. I'm a
fan of Draymond Green. He's one of those guys I
would want to have on my team, but wouldn't want
to play against us. You know, he's that kind of
annoying guy. Draymond to me, is a Charles Barkley wanna be.
You know, he's got his own podcast. You know, during

(28:34):
the season. He likes to say provocative things. You know,
and with all due respect to Draymond, he will never.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Be Charles S. Barkley. He's only one Charles Sparkley.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
But that being said, he came on a podcast and
said that the NBA is boring, and he cited a
lot of the reasons that I've been saying the NBA
is boring for several years.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
The idea that.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
I mean, here, here's one thing that is not being
talked about enough, is that where's the.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Defense right now?

Speaker 2 (29:09):
I know that you go back twenty years ago when
we had games in the seventies and it was.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Overkill, like maybe al right, it was.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Too physical and you really couldn't get your offenses going,
but now it's swung the other way, and so there's
very little defense played in the NBA. On top of
the idea that everyone just camped out of three point
cline launching twenty eight footers. It does not make for
an aesthetically appealing game. So I applaud Draymond for calling

(29:38):
out the league. I'm sure the league's not happy about that,
especially because it's their weekend. The NFL season's over. He
got NBA All Star weekend. But this is a league
that and I think, you know, I applaud Draymond.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
You need to. Somebody has to say it.

Speaker 5 (29:54):
I there's I think Lebron said the same thing a
little bit ago, like this season he said, you know,
too many threes are being taken. Joe Mizzoula, I think
said the opposite and was like, well, his team takes
you know, sixty A games a sixty a game, And
so it's interesting how some are admitting to it and
then others are pretending that it's not an issue. And

(30:16):
I feel like that's another problem within the NBA. I
actually said this to Martin we hosted a show right
before the end of the year. Now it's like the
NBA is failing because everyone's on a different page as
to the message that they are sending out when we
watch we were just talking about a movie. The reason
movies and TV shows sometimes works so well is because
they're all on the same page. Whether it's this ridiculous

(30:37):
script or a scary script, they're all on the same page.
The NBA, all of them are reading a different book.
They're all starring in their own movie, and it's a
different genre. And that's a big problem. That is a
big problem. I agree with Draymond that yes, it is
a bit boring because have you seen like highlights where
it's like a team shoots a three misses, the team

(30:59):
gets a rebound, shoot another three. They missed, They go
back down, shoot a three miss, they go back down
the other way, shoot another three. It's literally all the time.
It's not fun.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
You need a good guy and you need a bad guy. Yeah,
that is always a formula for success. Good versus evil. Sure,
people love good versus evil, and so rivalries now because
you know the argument, well, it's it's wide open the NBA.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
We don't have any dynasty anymore. That's not a good thing.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
No, you know, when the Warriors and the Cavaliers did
something that had never been done before, play against each
other in four consecutive NBA finals.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
You took a side.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Either you were on Lebron's side or you were against
Lebron and you were, you know, rooting for step whatever.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
That's good for the NBA. There is no rivalries anymore.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
There are no I show videos sometimes to my sons,
you know, we're in their twenties of what the NBA
look back in the nineties nineties. So I'm not even
talking about Showtime Lakers. Yeah, bird Magic, I'm talking about
the nineties. It was a bloodbath. I mean, the Pistons

(32:11):
had sort of created this, you know, tough guy thing,
and then ironically, pat Riley, who was the coach of
the Showtime Lakers, goes to the Knicks, and the Knicks
were like the Pistons on steroids. I mean, they and
the and the Pacers. These were wars. And if you
are a fan of your team hating the opposing team

(32:36):
as much as you do, where you really get revved up.
I hate that team, I want to beat that team.
And you're not getting that.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
From the players now, you know, as everyone's high.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Five Buddy buddy, Oh, buddy, buddy and everything else.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
You just got your butt whooped and you're gonna go
dab them. What are we doing?

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Lebron To me, the style of play doesn't agree with me.
But that's not the problem. What's the the problem in
the NBA right now is you just got a bunch
of teams. Yeah, there's no rivalries anymore. There's nothing like
the intensity of the rivalries that I think really made
the NBA. There was a time when the NBA was

(33:14):
on such a rise, and it wasn't just Jordan. It was,
as I said, during the nineties, with the emergence of Jordan,
but the team's coming after Jordan and just that intensity
of play that we saw not just in the postseas,
you just saw it all season long. That's what's lacking
from this league right now. It is as as Draymond

(33:35):
Green said, boring.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
It's like, why can't we have a little bit of
physicality here in the DFSE please? I don't understand it,
but yes, everyone is buddy, buddy, that what you said
it perfectly like you want to believe that the players
you root for also hate the other team just like
you do. Like you want to believe that, but no,
everybody's friends, everybody has goes to have a drink after
and I don't get that. I don't, I don't. I

(34:00):
don't like that. There's very few I think NBA players
who are not buddy buddy type of people like Anthony Edwards.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
It doesn't seem very buddy buddy. But he doesn't move
the needle.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
No.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
I was watching an interview with Shay Gilgess Alexander immensely talented.
It's not questioning the talented these players. They got phenomenal talent, right,
but they're just out there doing their thing and there's just.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
None of that rivalry stuff. I mean, is I mean
if you?

Speaker 2 (34:29):
I mean, I just I feel sorry because if you're
a basketball fan where basketball is your sport.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
And I've talked about my son Garrett, I mean, basketball.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Is everything to him and loves the game and loves
the NBA, loves his Lakers and everything else.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
But it's just there needs to be something to play for.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
There's got to be a little more intensity, So less
about the style, more about just.

Speaker 5 (34:58):
Give me something, give me something, well competitive, be competitive.
It seems like they're not competitive.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
They're not really competitive right now, that is for sure
all right, coming up on the other side. So what
do we make of this NBA All Star weekend and
is the latest twist The answer will break it down.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
This is Fox Sports Saturday.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio Steve Harvey, Montzi
Blanos here at Fox Sports Saturday, coming live from the
Tairaq dot Com studio. So number one Auburn defeated number
two Alabama.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Again. The problem for college basketball is this, No one
remembers any of this.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
I mean it's it's March madness is such a phenomenon
in this country. It's one of the greatest events where.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
It is super fun.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
So so many people around the country that don't watch
a single second of college basketball will fill out that.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
Bracket, bracket and hope for the best.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
I told you about my co host back in the day,
uh Courtney Friel like KTLA and she wanted to fill
out a bracket. Okay, so I handed her a bracket
and then she's going down the bracket.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
She goes, where is ball Street?

Speaker 2 (36:14):
I go, no, st period of state, state and then
she's a Philadelphia girl. So she picked Villanova to win it.
I picked North Carolina to win it Villanova North Carolina
Championship game and Villanova wins.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
On a three point of the ball.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
There's a picture of us holding up our brackets and
I'm like, you got to be kiddy. She's asking me
where ball Street is and I'm like ball straight, and
she wins it, and she went all right. So we
got the NBA All Star Games tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (36:48):
Yes, So if you're not.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Really paying attention, and if you're not, I don't blame you.
This is how this is formatted tomorrow. So no more
two and twenty to two hundred and eighteen.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
NBA All Star Game. That those days are.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
Over, So I keep this year, don't say forever.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Yeah, right, So they still maintain and this do applaud
them is they weren't going to expand the All.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Star rosters, so you still have twelve players.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
From each conference being named to the All Star Team,
which I like. So the idea instead of dividing the
two teams into well two teams, they're going to have
three teams of eight and you got Shaq, Kenny and
Charles Okay, but you have semi finals. So let's say
the three we're missing a team, So what's the fourth team.

(37:36):
The fourth team is made of the Rising Stars, who
technically are not actually All Stars. Okay, so let's say
then the Rising Stars not only win one of the semis,
but actually win the All Star Game. I mean it's unlikely,
obviously they're going against the Blessed, but but let's just

(37:56):
say they pull it off. That would mean the winner
of the the NBA All Star Game would be a
team made up of players none of which were actually
named to the All Star Team.

Speaker 5 (38:08):
Yes, and if that happens, that might be the kick
in the butt that the players need to get competitive
when it comes to this game. This game used to
be fun to watch.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
You.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
I enjoyed watching the All Star Game. I used to
make a thing of it. Now it's like, oh yeah,
I'm gonna watch well again.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
When you have to resort to gimmicks, you gotta wave
the flag, right, much as the NFL with her flag
football game. I mean, just if you want to acknowledge
players as an all star scene. It's different in the
Pro Bowl because the Pro Bowl is selected at the
end of the year. The All Star Game is a

(38:46):
mid season game.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
The worst is baseball, where you'll get someone labeled as
an All Star that had a hot one half of
a season and all of a sudden they made the
All Star team.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Oh he was an All Star. I'm not really.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
I mean the idea of all star stars mean you're
actually a star. It's not called the sort of star game,
right or could be star game or never was a
star game.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
It's the all star game.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
That's why I never had a problem with picking players
who may be having an offseason but they're already established.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
As a star. I hear you, it's a star.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
It's an exhibition. So I don't know how this is
gonna work. So now there are these like half games
or what are they doing?

Speaker 5 (39:33):
No, so it's not time. They just whoever reaches forty
or surpasses forty first.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
So there's no halves, no quarters. He just goes straight
through until you get there.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
That's how I'm understanding it. And so it'll be Yes,
so Candas is rising Stars will be playing Shacks Parker,
she's coaching Parker correct, and Shaq's OG's then Kenny's team
is playing Chuck's team. Also, the way that that was
drafted seems superscripted, like they knew exactly who they were
going to draft. I was like, no, no, no, Now, this
was all planned out. Did you see the teams?

Speaker 3 (40:02):
I did?

Speaker 5 (40:02):
Yeah, and with the names.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
By the way, Shack's team is the old team exactly.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
He's got all the old timers.

Speaker 5 (40:08):
Absolutely, and then Chuck has all the like international players.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Yes, you see that how that works?

Speaker 1 (40:13):
No?

Speaker 5 (40:13):
I was like, this was so scripted, you guys.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Come on, all right, Well, if the NBA is looking
for attention, not the way to go about. Much more
coming up here on Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 3 (40:50):
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The valentine was working till late, but you know, we
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Speaker 5 (41:18):
I really really do. I really do. And that's exactly
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Speaker 3 (41:21):
Yes, I can't remember the last time I had any tequila.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
It's been so long, you know. Here's again, the problem
with tequila is simply this. If you if you have
the bad stuff.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Early where you know, you you.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Know, college years, and you know, those were the years
when I was, you know, drinking to excess, yes, and
and then you have bad tequila, and there's there's a
different level of good tequila and bad tequila. But if
you have the bad stuff, somehow, it's it's hard to
get that out of your mind.

Speaker 6 (41:51):
You know.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
Luckily I'm past that. Like, if you give me bad tequila,
I'm not drinking it. In college, I was like, yeah, whatever,
you know, But now no, no, I know a good it is,
and I know what that is, and I.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Won't There is a real discrepancy that's good and bad tequila. Yes,
all right, I wanted to ask you this because if
you don't know about Moncey with the many many hats
that she wears and a variety of positions, she's had
a long association with the Dodgers organization. I want to
get your thoughts about show Hey. So he had his
first bullpen of the spring, and they're getting him ready

(42:25):
obviously to bitch.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
This year for the Dodgers very exciting.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Well, I'm anxious to see how he fares. I mean,
he's had two significant arm surgeries.

Speaker 5 (42:35):
I mean Tommy John without saying Tommy John.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Right right, it wasn't technically Tommy.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
John, but it was, and he's already had a Tommy
John exactly.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
But some people are like throwing it out there, like
what are you doing?

Speaker 5 (42:49):
Why?

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Why?

Speaker 6 (42:50):
Why?

Speaker 2 (42:50):
I mean this because when you think about the Dodgers
regular season, Mookie had an off year, Freddy Free even
had an off year. Neither one came close to the
numbers that they had put up the previous several years.
Us a Taskar Hernandez obviously had a great year for them.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
He might have been their second best hitter. But if
it wasn't for.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Show Hey having this historic season, I don't know how
it would look for the Dodgers, they were not you know,
the pitching staff was in shambles half the year, and
he had this superhuman season.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Rightfully voted unanimously.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Is MVP to get him across the finish line and
then into the postseason. Obviously, Freddie Freeman came up huge
in the World Series and the pitching came through in
the postseason, so things changed in the postseason. But if
it wasn't for show Hay in the regular season, I'm
not quite sure that they were guaranteed a spot. So
some people are saying, Okay, it was sort of a

(43:49):
novelty act with the Angels because they were never in contention, right,
But you know, show Hey, now, when you pitch for
the Dodgers, you're in a lot of big games, the
counting on you to be their ace. And what kind
of strain is that going to put on him? And
could it have an adverse effect on his offense? You said, well,
look at his numbers offensively with the Angels. Okay, but

(44:11):
they weren't really playing for a lot in those days.

Speaker 5 (44:13):
Right, It's different.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
It's a completely different game when you're on a team,
especially this year, that is expected to follow up their
World Series win with an even better season in twenty
twenty five. Do you have any concerns about Showhy actually
trying to go back to doing both.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
Of course there are concerns. I'm actually surprised that he's
already pitching. I really thought we weren't going to see
him pitch yet at all, like not even a couple
of you know, because they said he's not going to
have a rehab session. He's not doing that in this
Cactus League. He's just going to keep dhing and then
like pitching on the side. Of course, there's a bit

(44:52):
of an uneasiness if you think about it, because you
don't want him to get hurt and to affect what
he does dhing obviously, but I I don't I don't
think you you don't do it, even even though I'm uneasy,
even though I'm like, you know, approach with caution. I'm
definitely still gonna say, you go out there and you

(45:14):
try to pitch. You're not wrong, though, because the Dodgers
have a target on their back that has escalated, especially
coming into this season because of all the signings that
they've been doing, and you know, everyone hating on them
because of how much money they spent, which it's going to,
like you said, it's going to translate to him having
a lot more pressure going out there every single time

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he pitches, because everyone's going to try to beat the Dodgers.
But teams who are not in contention when they play
the Dodgers, all of a sudden they want to play
the best. That that just happens, right, So what happens
when you have a good team, and so there is
a lot of risk, But I just don't see how
you don't take the risk.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Agree with it initially. Let's see how let's see what
happens you have but if there.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Is even a sign of trouble, a hint of trouble,
I again, shoe Hay will be thirty one in July,
So he's not twenty five, twenty six years old anymore.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
And for a picture that matters.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
And when you throw as hard as Otani does, there's
a reason why he's had armed troubles.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Look, the numbers don't lie.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
When you look at twenty one, twenty two, and twenty
three with the Angels, I mean he was thirty four
and sixteen, you know, with an era below three, you know,

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and as I've said many times, stop with the Baby
Ruth comparisons.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Okay, there's no comparison.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
There's not.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Babe Ruth was a dominant pitcher, and then there was
this very brief period where he was trying both. But
when he left the Red Sox to go the Yankees
and became a full timeout. So that no one's done this. Now,
this is a once in a lifetime. There was a
guy in the old Negro League's named Bullet Rogan. Some
people have actually looked this guy up. I mean this,

(47:09):
this is I'm throwing my usual Rogan. Bullet Rogan, what
a name. Yeah, this guy could do both, okay, way
back in the day. But again, they weren't playing one
hundred and sixty two games seas since. And I just
be cautious with this.

Speaker 5 (47:22):
I don't disagree with you. I still say you take
the risk, and I agree like, if there is a
hint of something, you know, maybe not working out, or
he starts to feel a little uncomfortable in this, then
then you halt it. I'm with you, but right now
you were. You came to the Dodgers as a two
way player, and I also think he wants to do it.
You know what I mean, Like, I don't think anyone's

(47:44):
forcing him. I think he's pushing it. I think he
would have pitched in the World Series if they would
have let him.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Well, the one thing he didn't do was hit in
the World Series.

Speaker 5 (47:52):
He did it is not hot.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
He was you know, no one even noticed this because
it was such a great victory for the Dodgers. He
was two for nineteen zero zero home runs, zero RBIs.
He hit one oh five in the World Series. In
other words, he was a bust.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
He was an absolute in the World Series.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
He had a great League Championship series against the Mets,
but in the World Series he was a bus So
you know, if I'm showhy and you've done everything else,
I want to that's that's the award I want. I
want to be World Series MVP. I want to do
what Freddie Freeman did on the biggest stage. That's an
MVP performer.

Speaker 5 (48:28):
It is crazy how he had such a great regular season.
Literally remember what, Mookie got hurt and then they put
him up to lead off and it was amazing leading
off as a hitter, and then come World Series and
he just fell flat completely completely. But then luckily the
others rose to the occasion and we talked about that
when it was you're not even you don't even remember.

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I actually did not know that that was the average
for the World Series one five.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
I had no idea two for nineteen zero homers, zero RBI.

Speaker 5 (48:57):
I knew he didn't have any harmors because everybody was
obviously track of that. I think I remember the rbs.
But if you would have told me, did you what
was his batting average?

Speaker 4 (49:06):
One?

Speaker 5 (49:06):
Like I don't know too ten or so.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
You know what I mean, Like, wow, but no, And
that's his career world serious batty average.

Speaker 5 (49:13):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Average.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
I'll take him on my team any time, any day.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
I mean, this is going to be something that And
look the Dodgers when you look at it right now,
and they resigned Kershaw.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
That's another thing about Kershaw. Okay, well.

Speaker 5 (49:29):
Start talking about about it.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
He's a first ballot Hall of Yeah.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
But you can't let him go. You can't let him
go anywhere.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Why is he still around? He's already had his Hall
of Fame career. He got a gift here this past year.
He only pits seven games, he gets a second World
Series rang, you go off on the sunset, what are
we talking to?

Speaker 3 (49:49):
He says, he's not.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Even going to be ready till maybe June. You already
have six starting pitchers. You're going to put him back
in the rotation.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Why is he still around?

Speaker 5 (49:58):
I think he wants to go off on his own
terms and not go because of it, he says.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
I only he made it clear, I'm only going to
play for the Dodgers. Yes, I'm never going to play
for another organization. And it was only a seven and
a half million dollar deal, way below what.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
He used to make.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
But I mean, come on, just retire five years, first
ballot Hall of Fame. I think he still would be
the organization. Yeah, I think he can take up a
roster spot.

Speaker 5 (50:23):
Remember he tried to pitch and then he got his
foot issue, and then.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
He had two surgeries in the offseason.

Speaker 5 (50:29):
Right but once the season started or when he started
getting back ramping up, he hurt his foot and then
he wasn't able to actually really go out there and
see if he still had anything left in the tank.
And I think that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Well, maybe he doesn't want to end his career with
his last postseason game. He walked off the mount within
an the are of one hundred and sixty two in
that game, six runs in a third of an inn exactly.

Speaker 5 (50:52):
That's how he wants to go out.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
That was his last post.

Speaker 5 (50:54):
You wouldn't want to go out like that either, I know,
but I just I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
When I mean, I get, I mean I'm being hypocritical here,
because my attitude is a non athlete is that as
an athlete, because very few athletes actually retire when they should, well,
they very rarely retire. In other words, they are retired.
In other words, you can't play anymore, so goodbye. That's
how it is for ninety nine percent of athletes. But

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the few that actually are in a position to make
their own decision, I just don't you know, you started
just extending your career.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
This what we talked earlier.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
About Aaron Rodgers, Like what I mean, if I get it,
he went to the Jets because on paper, look like, okay,
they're a quarterback away. They had a great defense on paper,
they had some young offensive weapons on paper, and now
you bring in a legitimate quarterback.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
That makes sense.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
But if you were to sign on with a team
like the Raiders, now you're just now you're just playing
for the sake of playing and getting a paycheck.

Speaker 5 (51:51):
And that example, I actually don't think translate exactly to
the Kershaw situation because he's staying with the team that
he's been with his whole career.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Yeah, but at some point, do you want to be
the bad guys the Dodgers seeing all right, we know
you want to still play, Clayton, but honestly, it's over.
You're you're putting them in a possible situation. He's one
of the greatest Dodgers.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Of all time.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
You don't want to be saying to him, Clayton, you
know we love you. Well, maybe you're a Dodger, you're
a Hall of Famer, but it's worth over.

Speaker 5 (52:20):
Maybe it's just worth having him in the clubhouse.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Well then Bram was a coach.

Speaker 5 (52:24):
Well he's not ready, Steve, he wants to he still
has some in the tank.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
Okay, all right, Well switch gears.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
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Speaker 3 (53:08):
He's all over.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
The place right now as we are well immersed in
the NBA season. He is our NBA insider tomorrow is
going to do a couple hours.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Of Mike Harmon right before my show with Rich. Looking
forward to that our show with Rich tomorrow. The great
Mark Madina is joining us right now. Mark working overtime.

Speaker 9 (53:25):
Here, just trying to keep up with you all.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
You know, it's always fun of this time. I want
to get right to this Draymond Green comment. I've never
been well. I'm a fan of Draymond. I always thought
that he was underrated in college. I was surprised when
he dropped into the second round. I like his game
as long as he's on my team and not the
other team. But a lot of stuff he's done over

(53:50):
the years that I've not been particularly pleased with but
his comment.

Speaker 9 (53:53):
Wait, let me clarify. You're not a fan of him
putting Rody golbar in at choke hold.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
No, take things to the extreme like that are kicking
guys in the groin, you know, Lebron, Yeah, there's some
of the he's stepped over the light. But I think
that he has said something that others.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
I mean, Lebron made.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
A comment earlier this year about too much three point shooting,
but Draymond really took a next level by just saying, look,
this game is boring right now. There's a lack of
physicality in this game. Everyone just camping out the three
point line. I take it even a step further sometimes,
Mark that what really is lacking is a level of intensity.

(54:32):
And Mark, you remember the days as I do. You
look at the NBA in the nineties, forget showtime in
the eighties. Okay, let's just talk about the intensity. And yeah,
you said, well, those are a bunch of seventy seven
to seventy two games. Okay, maybe the defense was too much,
but there was a level of intensity in the regular
season rivalries, I mean, like real rivalries that the fans

(54:56):
dug because that's how fans feel, and they want their
team to feel the same animosity to the opposition that
they feel. And I just feel like at this point,
mark those days are long gone in the NBA.

Speaker 9 (55:09):
Yeah, and a lot of good points you hit on
with that, Steve. And there's two I think overlapping things,
the two distinguishable things to unpack here that I don't
have a problem about today's NBA being more about threes
and Draymond saying, oh, we sag off three point line.
Some coaches actually encourage defenders to do that because they say,

(55:30):
you know, what best defense is no defense. Let's make
us a chess match and bait poor shooters to take
outside shots. Totally fine with that. But the thing that
I do have a problem with is what you mentioned,
the lack of intensity, whether it's physical or not or finesse.
Every single game doesn't feel like an event as it

(55:51):
was in the nineties. And part of it is, yeah,
we're in the social media era where fans are on
their phones and you know, everything's just about you know,
highlight reels and not watching the game. But I think
it's also just the overall feeling of what a game
actually means. So that's not how it used to be.

Speaker 5 (56:09):
Yeah, because everybody's buddy buddy, Mark, everybody's everybody's homies with
each other.

Speaker 9 (56:15):
Yeah, that's the other thing. I mean, the some of
it you understand because they grew up playing together on
AAU teams and with free agency, player fluid movement, you
have all these alliances. But you don't see a lot
of times when you're on the court that that players
want to go at each other. You know, Draymond Greens

(56:38):
can sometimes be the real exception and he crosses over
the line. But yeah, we don't see that kind of
feeling that it's us against the world. When teams match up,
it's almost like a game within a game. You only
see that kind of chip on your shoulder when a
player gets traded or left for free agency and he
wants to have a good game against his former team.

(56:59):
But beyond you see more of you know, the friendships
on the other side as opposed to want to beat them.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
All right, So we have this new format for the
All Star Game. I can't even call it an All Star.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
Game, all right.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
So anyway, the idea of the format here, Mark, is
the idea that you have now three teams of eight,
where you have Shaq, Kenny, and Chuck picking a team
and then you're like, well, how do you have where's
the four team? Well, the fourth team is the Future
Stars team with Candas Parker. So and none of these
guys are All Stars technically future Stars. You hope there's
future Stars. Very few of the Future Stars actually become stars,

(57:34):
but that's another story. So what happens if the Future
Stars team coach by Kanadas Parker ends up winning this
whole thing?

Speaker 3 (57:44):
In other words, the All Star.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Game is won by a team that has zero All
Stars on it.

Speaker 9 (57:51):
Well, if that happens, huge indictment on the current NBA
All Stars because.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
They don't want to play.

Speaker 9 (57:57):
That means that they did not show up to play.
And I think that's part of the thinking of why
this format was constructed the way it is. That Rising
Star Championship team they're going to play Shacks team, which
is consistent of all the old veterans. So instinctively, the
old guys are going to want to show, Okay, this
is what it takes to win. The young guys want

(58:19):
to show a show that they deserve respect. So maybe
that brings out the competitive juices the other side of
the bracket is it's international stars against domestic young stars,
and maybe that taps into the nationalistic pride. And then
the winner of both those games space off in the

(58:40):
championship game and it's you know, winner has to score
forty points at that time. So all these games are
going to take place Sundays, starting at eight o'clock Eastern.
So with that, I think short term, we're going to
see some good basketball tomorrow. But as I wrote earlier
this week, I've got this is and that's going to

(59:00):
last beyond this season. I think next season you'll see
the same old trope of guys not taking the game seriously,
not playing defense because there's precedent for it. Guys. You
may recall in twenty twenty, the All Star Game in
Chicago is a month after Kobe Bryant's tragedy and an
honor of Kobe, they decided, hey, because Kobe's all about
the Mama mentality and competitive juices, let's have a target

(59:24):
score that teams have to reach, the twenty four, honor
of his jersey number. That game, it was competitive, it
was great. The next year, no one cared again. So yeah,
it's cool short term, but the bottom line guys. Is
they just have to care. They have to give a
you know what to make this game earlier and are meaningful,
and they can't rely on gimmicks. It has to come

(59:46):
down to players buying in and take it seriously. Unfortunately
we haven't seen them do to that.

Speaker 5 (59:50):
Yeah, I'm with you, Mark. I do think it's going
to be competitive because of the format, but really be
competitive next year and that's the big question. The three
point shooting contest is whatever nobody wants to watch. That
is exciting every single time. Slam Dunk Contest not so much.

Speaker 9 (01:00:07):
You're not a fan of Mac McClung.

Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
I am.

Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
I hold on, and I am a fan of Mac McClung.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
This guy has played five NBA, right, because he's played
one game this year.

Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
Right, he is awesome. He is awesome. But the slam
dunk Contest are we gonna be saying goodbye to it?
You think?

Speaker 9 (01:00:27):
Well, Steve, I think was kind of alluding to Mac McClung.
Is no Dominique Wilkins or with str rain or even
Dence Carter. So yeah, the dunk contest isn't tough. I know, Mac,
you know, to a man, he's given some good performances
that I think they should do away with it. Bost
this Loster guys have done every single thing under the sun.
I think the three point contest is great because of

(01:00:49):
today's shooters. It is disappointing that, you know, after seeing
the success with Steph Curry and Sabrine iron Ascu, that
they couldn't do that again, especially since you know, off
our weekend and is in San Francisco where Curry is.
But yeah, they still have a good field that'll make
it worth our while to watch. But everything else, I mean,

(01:01:10):
that skills competition that's been unwatchable from the jump. I
don't even know why they have that to begin with.
But the dunk contest, they're keeping it for tradition's sake,
but that's lost. It's lost your two.

Speaker 5 (01:01:20):
You might as well let locals play in this loun
dunk contest.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Yeah, well, I'll tell you what else they need to
do away with and start over again.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
As the Basketball Hall of Fame. Okay, so.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Here's what I've never understood mark about the basketball Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
There is a.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Separate women's basketball Hall of Fame. There is a college
basketball Hall of Fame. There is an International Basketball Hall
of Fame. You know what, there's not an NBA Hall
of Fame, So the NBA players have to share their
Hall of Fame with all these other people.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
And just never made sense the NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
I mean, you have a pro football Hall of Fame,
you got a college football Hall of Fame.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
I mean, I've just never understood this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
But that being said, mellow, obviously he's going to be
a first ballot guy. But Dwight Howard to me, in
some ways, in retrospect of his career, maybe one of
the most underappreciated players in NBA history. What I mean,
you obviously covered him in an NBA remember his ill

(01:02:20):
fated first run with the Lakers. The second one went
a little bit better with him getting a ring. But
do you think that I mean, I expect he'll be
a first ballot Hall of Famer. I mean, they put
Monogenobile in on the first ballot. But do you think
that he gets the do he deserves for his NBA career?

Speaker 9 (01:02:41):
No, because his career had two distinctly different chapters when
he was in Orlando. If his career ended the way
it did in Orlando, he would have already been a
first ballot Hall of Family because he was a dominant
big guy and he was one of the young rising stars.
It's just everything else after that that came at his
with just how he handled his trade requests and his

(01:03:02):
exit out of Orlando and then him not being ready
even when you consider, you know, him coming out the
back surgery, he clearly is not ready to be that
superstar player to carry you know, a Lakers franchise. And
then you know every team he played with and had
a very hasty exit with the Rockets, he and James
Harden not playing well together and coexisting enough to win

(01:03:24):
a championship. And then you know his time in Atlanta
and Charlotte barely lasted beyond the season. So I think
even with all those bad chapters, he deserves to be
in the Hall of Fame because of what he did
in Orlando. But if I'm comparing him to someone like
Carmelo Anthony, I think Carmelo has a better body of work.

(01:03:45):
And you know, Carmelo certainly had his own share criticism
of hey, he's just a scorer, doesn't play defense, he
didn't win a championship. But when you look at his
really good skill set as a score, I mean you
can make the argument that he's a top five score ever,
just because of how dominant and consistent he was as
opposed to player, and how he relied on his footwork

(01:04:08):
and power to just be an unstoppable weapon, where with Dwight,
you know, his skill set was being a dominant big man.
But you know, once he lost his athleticism, he didn't
have the fundamentimals to fall back on. So you know
there's a reason that, Yeah, he was valued towards the
end of his career as a backup center that can

(01:04:28):
make blocks, but he wasn't seen as ever a complete player.

Speaker 5 (01:04:32):
Last one from me, Mark. I know everybody, including myself
couldn't stop talking about Luca going to the Lakers, obviously,
but I feel like Jimmy Butler and the Warriors are
a match made in Heaven. They don't need a guy
to take threes, They have that taken care of. They
need a guy who gets in there, drives, takes a foul,
shoots and makes baskets when Steph is on the bench.

(01:04:54):
Am I crazy? Or do you also see that?

Speaker 9 (01:04:58):
Not only do I see it? You said is exactly
what Steve kersaid when the Warriors got him He's a
very good compliment to what they have. You know, they
need a secondary score to relief staff from all the
pressure of game double team, and he's a proven score
and he does it in completely different way. He's not
a free point shooter. He's a mid range shooter. He
drives the basket, he gets free throws, and this season

(01:05:20):
the Warriors struggled getting to the basket and getting foul shots. Yes,
he and Draymond they are inevitably going to have, you know,
trash talking moments, but I think it's mostly for the
better because they're established veterans. There's no pecking order about,
you know, like a Jordan Poole, where Draymond will a
big exception to a young guy Chirpin. And they're very competitive.

(01:05:40):
They have an edge, and that's what the Warriors need.
Steve Kerr would often lament. While he often you know,
would complain in recent years about Draymond stepping over the line,
at the same time, he would also say, hey, we
need other players that also have that intensity, and we
don't have that, and Jimmy Butler certainly has that. Now.

(01:06:00):
I'm sure Steve will disagree yet again with what Draymond
said but he told me that when they're in town
in LA that they're going to win the championship because
of this. I don't buy that. Yeah, I will say,
instead of being a question mark on whether they get
to the playing tournament, they're definitely a playoff team and
I don't see them making a big run. But I
don't think any team if they had to pick Straws

(01:06:22):
will choose. Okay, I want the Golden State Warriors in
the first round matchup because that's a pretty challenging speed bump.

Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Well this, I will say the Warriors are better shape
than that disaster in Phoenix right now.

Speaker 9 (01:06:33):
Wow, that's a dumb That.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
Is an absolute disaster.

Speaker 9 (01:06:37):
And stair parts.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
All Right, we need to give Mark some rests.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
I forgot a big show tomorrow will be what We'll
see you tomorrow Mark. So Mark, we always appreciate the time,
and we'll see you tomorrow.

Speaker 9 (01:06:50):
Heyay tomorrow, looking forward to co hosting the second best
Fox Sports radio show this week, behind you guys were
number one.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
We appreciate that, Mark, thanks so much, great Mark. You
know there are Fox Sports Radio NBA Insider. Now let's
find out what is Trendeane.

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
Morton Steve had a question for you.

Speaker 8 (01:07:08):
Yes, and you know, I don't mean to offend anybody
who may be listening, which is a great way to start.

Speaker 5 (01:07:15):
Yeah, yeah, here too.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
But yeah, is there.

Speaker 8 (01:07:18):
A more, as I'll borrow a phrase from my co
host flim flamm and fluff job, than bracketology insider.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Look, if you can convince people that somehow you have
the expertise of putting a completely bogus bracket that has
zero bearing on the actual bracket that will be decided
down the road, if you can con people into paying
you to do that, I give them all the credit
in the world.

Speaker 8 (01:07:51):
Well, I don't think people understand that bracketology is simply
a sister not cousins of mock drafts.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Right, Yes, it's all made up. It's all made up.
You could look at your VP. Here's how it works
for me.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
So obviously, being a UCLA Brewin, when I see then,
you know rising, I'm like, I give it a lot
of legitimacy. But if I think he is put them
too low, then I'm saying this.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
Is a joke.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Right, Sure, So you're always going to have fans of
the bracketology guaranteed based on teams that are in contention,
and then you'll always have critics if your team is
on the outside looking in.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
But it's essentially just predicting.

Speaker 8 (01:08:35):
I mean, you're just looking at which teams are five
hundred in power conferences, which teams are going to win
their conference?

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
Like man, he had spice to teams on the bubble
last four in first four out.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
You know, you have all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:08:47):
Seems like predicting who's going to make the playoffs a
day before the playoffs get out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
This is this is what I've said for years about
like grading an NFL draft the day of the draft.
I just like, how do you grade when none of
these guys have played a game? Yeah, call me in
three years and I will grade that NFL draft.

Speaker 8 (01:09:07):
MONTI this is my favorite part of all this, and
I promise I'll update some top five scores in a second.
My favorite part about all of this is after the
bracket comes out, you'll see the lunardies and so on
and so forth talk about how the committee got it wrong. Right.
That's essentially like the weather man saying God got it
wrong because I said it's supposed to rain on Monday,
and it's seventy.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
Five and sunny. I don't understand like that.

Speaker 8 (01:09:29):
Somebody must have gotten it wrong because it couldn't have
been raining. Just my wild guest based off there are
four variable points. Couldn't have been that wrong. Weoll both
of these teams are going to make the tournament, Auburn
and Alabama.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
I will say this the four letter racketology, Lonardi, he's
got USLA about where they should be, sixth seed. They're
about a six seed right now.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
You know what else? How you could have told UCLA
is probably gonna be a.

Speaker 8 (01:09:54):
Succeeed, but I don't know by looking at every other
bracket from the history of brackets, looking at the racket record,
look at the conference and be like, oh, you know what,
probably somewhere between six to nine nine.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
Times seven big ten. Yeah, that's about right.

Speaker 8 (01:10:06):
Six right anyway. Auburn beat Alabama ninety four to eighty five.
That's the number one it's number two team in the nation.
Auburn will remain number one. Dou number three team in
the nation. One beat Stanford one oh six to seventy Tennessee,
the fifth rane team in the nation beat Vanderbilt eighty
one to seventy six. And six rank Houston beat thirteenth

(01:10:27):
r in Arizona sixty two to fifty eight.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
I don't know if I have.

Speaker 8 (01:10:30):
To ask Joelnardi or not, but I bet you all
of those teams I just mentioned will be in the
final field of sixty eight.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
But I don't know. Maybe just an eighty percent chance.
Back to you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
All right, thank you very much, Martin. Now he's got
frustrations and I understand that five percent. Once again, we
are Fox Sports Saturday, coming to live from the tire
rack dot com studios.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
Apparently it is that time.

Speaker 5 (01:10:54):
All right, let's bring this back. I will say the
last time we played this, I thought I was your
dad and I wasn't because the Internet was wrong. No,
I was wrong, guys, don't trust the internet.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
You asked me the question.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
It was about who took the fewest games to get
to two thousand hits.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
In their career, who reached too?

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
Yeah, And I.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Said, well, I know that Echro's got to be in
the top three, and You're like no. And then then
he gave me jose al Tuo V and I'm like, yes,
it didn't sound.

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
Right, so I had to look it up afterwards.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
And then we found out it was the quick fewest
games to get to two thousand hits and twos and
two hundred stolen bases.

Speaker 5 (01:11:32):
Yeah, the internet really screwed with me that day. Anyway,
I should.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
Get this shitty question after a long wait.

Speaker 5 (01:11:39):
Shitty, Harry, shitty?

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
Yes, what name?

Speaker 5 (01:11:43):
Yes? All right, all right, my question for you today,
mister Hartman. Let's get going here. Steph Curry has the
most three point shots made all time? Yes, who's the second?

Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
Well, I mean obviously he broke. I'm gonna h.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
I'm gonna say it is.

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
Is it Ray Allen?

Speaker 6 (01:12:07):
Ray?

Speaker 5 (01:12:07):
Allen is third.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
Somebody's already pass Ray, so it must be a current player?

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
It is who?

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
I guess the next name that would come out would be.
It's one of two guys. I will say it is
Damian Lillard.

Speaker 5 (01:12:27):
No, who was the other guy you had in mind?
Damian Lillard is fourth? By the way, so you're like,
right there, he's fourth.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
Who am I missing?

Speaker 5 (01:12:38):
You're gonna You're gonna shoot yourself in the foot?

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
Would it be?

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Would it be.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
James Harden?

Speaker 5 (01:12:44):
It is James Harden. That was pretty That was pretty good, though, Steve.
That was pretty impressive.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
Well, I did get the top four?

Speaker 5 (01:12:51):
You did, Yes, that was pretty impressive. All right, let's
go to our producer Ian what you got for him?

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
This is this is my Who's Your Daddy?

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
Premiere?

Speaker 10 (01:12:58):
So I really I'll go idea like if Steve's just
gonna get this right off the bat, or maybe you
won't get it at all. You never know, you never know,
but okay, Steve. Which MLB player holds the record for
the most career triples?

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
Most career triples?

Speaker 5 (01:13:14):
Nice?

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
That record is held by Sam Crawford.

Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
Yeah, that's correct, day, Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Who played for the Detroit Tigers in the early twentieth century.
Do they still I mean they change these numbers. They've
sort of rewritten some of that. Like Ty Cobb when
he brought Pete Rose four thousand ninety one, Now they
say he had four eighty nine.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
Do they still have Sam Crawford three hundred and twelve?

Speaker 4 (01:13:41):
I don't have the exact number.

Speaker 5 (01:13:42):
How do you have an exact number?

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
But anyway, I just.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
All right, Sam Martin, Martin, that one?

Speaker 5 (01:13:48):
What you got here?

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
I'll go stick around the diamond, go around the horn.

Speaker 8 (01:13:52):
Who's the only baseball player to hit two Grand slams
in a single inning.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
Well, of course that is not only who hit a
it would be Fernando Tatis Senior. And he hit both
of them off of Chan Ho Park Sole, which is
that's what really is remarkable, not that he hit two
Grand Slams in the same inning, but he hit them
both off the same pitcher, questioning why was chan Ho

(01:14:17):
Park to think about this? He gave up a grand
Slam and nine batters later in the same inning, the
bases are loaded and he's still pitching for the dodge
the bullpen.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
Yeah, at some point, right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
So you've already given up a Grand Slam in the
inning and nine batters later the bases are loaded and
you're still in pitching.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
That's that's remarkable about that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
Yeah, But Fernando Tatis one, I got a bonus one
that she doesn't.

Speaker 5 (01:14:46):
Mary has a question, Always ask me a question.

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
Wait before Mary does three hundred and nine, it's nine.

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
They've adjusted that number.

Speaker 11 (01:14:54):
Okay, go ahead, all right, yo, Yeah, I have a
Grammy question.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
Grammy question. All right, So.

Speaker 11 (01:15:03):
Who won Best Country Album for the twenty twenty five Grammys.
What album the best Country album?

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
That would be Beyonce? Okay, so knows that. Yeah, thank
you even I know that one she has.

Speaker 4 (01:15:18):
He has amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
Taylor Swift had won four Best Albums, which is the
all time record, but she only has I believe, fourteen
total fifteen totally has thirty five total Yeah Grammys, the
most of any artist of all time.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
All Right, that went okay for me? Okay, I did Steve?

Speaker 8 (01:15:40):
I met you remember this when it happened? Who holds
a single year a single year record for Grand Slams,
single year record for Grand Slams.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
Let's see.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Uh the record is six, yes, and it is Don Mattingly.

Speaker 4 (01:15:58):
Yeah, can you stop?

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
Welcome Ian Welcome, Yeah, Don matt Aileen. Yeah, that's all right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
Coming up on the other side. I don't know how
I get top that, but we'll try. This is Fox
Sports Saturday. Steve Harvey, Montzie Belind is here Fox Sports Saturday.
We're coming live from the tire rack dot Com studios.

Speaker 4 (01:16:21):
I want to thank our crew today.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Martin always, who is uh he rivals you Monsei in
a lot of ways. About most valuable players here at
Fox Sports Radio, those that can literally do it alls
at Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, exactly, exactly, all American at
several positions. So Martin doing a great shot. Mary Mack,

(01:16:45):
we love you, We love mir Mac.

Speaker 5 (01:16:46):
Always with the right tunes.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
Always with the right tunes.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
She's she's introducing me, and she gives me those softball
questions that she knows.

Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
She never wants me to look bad, so she makes
it easy.

Speaker 5 (01:16:58):
For I think she genuinely thought you weren't going to
know that, And then.

Speaker 11 (01:17:00):
You knew the the What was the question that I
asked him? There was a question that was really surprising
that he knew.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
It was a boyfriend question, wasn't it? It was a
who was dating who?

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
Question? Back in the day.

Speaker 11 (01:17:11):
I think it was the Kanye Taylor Swift And yeah,
that Kanye said, that's.

Speaker 5 (01:17:15):
What it was. That was a question.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
And then Ian who looked in a state of shock
that I could ask answer these questions.

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
I'm sorry, now, don't let this go to your head
when I ask you this. Yeah, but do you have
a photographic memory?

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
I mean the way my memory works. And again I
can't compare it to anyone else because it's the only.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
Brain I've ever had.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
But usually what happens when people are asking me questions,
I have like a rolodex in my head and I'm
just waiting for it to stop on the page and
then pretty much, yeah, I'm reading the answer out of
my brain.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
That's how it works.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
I honestly, I've been I mean, we've been doing this
for years and years, long before it was internet. When
I first started doing sports radio in the early nineties,
they actually had a segment called Stump Homer. They used
to call me Homer Hartman, and they actually had a
button with my picture on it that if you stump me,
you got this, and we would do this every day.

(01:18:09):
There's no cheat sheets, you know, there was no internet
in those days.

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
Wait, what sound was made when when they stumped you?

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Like, I mean, I like, but you know people would say, like,
all right, who was the third string offensive tackle on
my high school team?

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
Be football team?

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
You know that that wasn't legit, you know, it'd have
to be a fairly legit question.

Speaker 10 (01:18:28):
I just wanted to be like a Mario dying sound
whenever they stump you or.

Speaker 5 (01:18:31):
Something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
Honestly, I do not study trivia. My thing is stats.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Yeah, okay, that's that's where I sort of separate my stats.

Speaker 12 (01:18:44):
I mean, I mean, you would be you would have
me committed if you actually saw stats that I had,
you would you you would say, okay, dude, you need
to be committed, like I type stats every single day.

Speaker 8 (01:18:59):
But Steve, trivia is by definition like when you accumulate
unique stats like six.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
I don't study trivia for the say trivia either I
know it or I don't know. Yeah, like it's There
are times though, there are times when I honestly I've
been asked questions that initially I don't think I know
the answer, and then suddenly it shows up like I
even shocked myself sometimes like some I didn't realize it

(01:19:26):
was actually in the rolodex.

Speaker 8 (01:19:29):
Well, when you when you when you've been in the
game for so long, all the respect that you refer
to your memory as a rolodex, I think it's showing
it right there exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
You know, no idea what rolodex is. Yes, I do
you do? So young, So you're you're absolutely right, Martin.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
The rolodex is a clear indication of just how long
I've been alive. All right, So you're all excited about
the All Star festivities tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (01:19:57):
No, but I'm going to tune in. I'm by the format,
which is a good thing. I've intrigued by the format,
so I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
All right, Well, we'll be back tomorrow. As always, don't
go anywhere, folks. More fun coming up right here on
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