The Fellas with Chris Plank & Kevin Figgers Preview Talk NFL Preseason, College Football Storylines & More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
I really don't know how to handle this time of
the day. Like I'm an overly energetic person. I just
that's that's the way I live. I always have been,
even when I'm tired. I try to bring some juice.
Kevin figures. But at let me see here at four
time check four oh one am local time. That's God's

(00:26):
time zone, the Central time zone. Two am on the
West Coast. A lot of people just waking up at
five am on the East coast? K fig. I don't know,
do I do I yell? Do I scream? Do we
ease into this thing today? Like? What is the proper
approach to this time of day? Because damn early man,

(00:47):
they can be a tough See. It could be early
for some and it can be late for others. You know,
hear so that that's the hard transition. Am I the
West Coast like you are? It's party time, baby, Let's go? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Am I eating a late night snack if I'm making
a run to Jack in a box on the way home,
or like for certain people like yourself, Am I waking
up when I get into some coffee and some breakfast
in the morning. It really is a difficult kind of
a no man's land sort of situation that you're in
right now.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
I understand, trust me. This time of day for me,
typically I'll just lay it out, is when I get
up because I'm old and I have to pean on
stop there right tonight, and I go to the restroom
and I grab my phone. I'm like, please let it
be like four to three so I can go back
to sleep, please. And you look at the clock. You're like,

(01:30):
four am. I got another hour or two. Let's go.
Good morning, man, How are you? How you been good
to hang out with you today. I'm fired up about
this for the next four hours. I've been amazing. It's
been this has been excellent. I've been enjoining a lot
of the Olympic action the last few weeks. I've been
more into it than I thought i'd be, to be
honest with you, Chris. You know, for whatever reason, Tokyo
just didn't hit right. And maybe it's because it was

(01:51):
the COVID and it was a year late, and there
weren't a lot of people in the audience. The time
zone difference was a lot more significant, and there was
a lot of events that were just buried. You know,
even though we're as we have live events going on
now in the early morning slash overnight, he was even
more so then, So I don't know, I'm really into it.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
We got college football getting ready to get started up
here in a couple of weeks, which you know, we're
both deeply into NFL preseason in full swing. So I mean,
this is kind of the guy at the greatest time
of the year we got coming up right now. The
weather is still pretty nice or it could be hot
and muggy, depending on where you are in the country.
In Los Angeles, it's pretty much the same as it
always is, which is pretty amazing. So so I'm fired up.

(02:26):
This is an exciting time of year. I'm looking forward
to everything we have going right now.

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I still consider you a new dad right absolutely. Are
we even a year in yet we are three months in.

(02:53):
I am a brand spanking new dad. So as both
Anthony Gargano and Jason Fitz have vacation on the sale day,
which is kind of unique, right. Usually I'm not here
to judge, but usually when you're a two person crew,
one will work when the other has a vacation, and
as Arnie likes to say, vice versa. So with both

(03:15):
of them out, I gotta be honest with you, I
was fired up because I have three kids. When I
was a new dad, this was the time of day
when I was up a lot on the weekends because
I worked during the week and I wouldn't have a
lot of that this is going to sound terrible, but
a lot of the diaper duty responsibilities during the week,
but the weekends were mine. And you know, we're going

(03:36):
back eighteen years now, nineteen years after my son, not
quite that long for my daughter and way too recently
for my youngest daughter. But weekends were my responsibility, keV.
So I would be upright and early. And I fell
in love with Saturday morning Sports Radio. I fell in
love with this slot. And I know this is funny.
I'm a big get back to sports Guy because that

(03:57):
dude rings incessantly in my head. He just wrint free
in my head. Yeah, if there's someone you got back
that sports calmed down, we'll get there.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Man.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
We got four hours today, for goodness sakes, I was
first saying Ian Roddy reminded me of whenever I die,
and he's like four hours today. Four a marathon, not
a sprint. Rite in could ease our way into all
the sports talk for a time. Plenty of time, plenty
of time to get there. Let's see.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
I'm not fortunate enough to as you were, Chris. When
it came to like the having the weekends, I was
throwing knee deep into it, all of it. My wife
and I will tag in and out, just like all right,
you do the one, am, I'll do the one forty five,
you do.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
The two, I'll do the wall, all while still going
to work. You know you're you're a better man than
I am. Is what you're laying out, and I appreciate that. No,
that's not all right. Everybody does it differently. There's there's
no indictment on you or anybody else. That's just how
we defend myself. That's not like I said, I ain't
helping all right, got a bunch of friendlf, but I

(04:53):
loved it. And and part of the reason why I
loved Saturday mornings is because to me, in Sunday mornings,
it it's an open palette, it's an open a kind
of forum, and I love the freedom. At this time
of the morning. There's usually not sports going on. Now
we have the Olympics, but there's always things to not
only react to because it's still relatively fresh, but it's

(05:16):
also a chance to preview what's coming up in the day. Right,
it's a perfect balance. Let me tell you one thing.
When those kids grew, I'm gonna have a chance to
sleep during this time. Let me die. I'm sure you sleep.
We had a speaking of the kids, we had a
sleepover at our house last night. We had my daughter,
my ten year old daughter. I did not time this

(05:37):
thing out. I have a ten year old, a fifteen
year old, and a twenty year old. Oh. I decided
that I wanted my whole life could be constantly taken
care of kids. So my tenure is very excited. She's
a very I mean, I love my daughter, but she's
very needy. Right, she's dead absolutely, and so she had
these friends over and she has all these plans, right,

(05:57):
she's got it all planned out. We're gonna do this,
this and this, and what do you think happens? As
soon as all the girls get over, they don't want
to do anything she had. So we had a little
mini meltdown before it all started. It was like, listen,
this good life lesson. Things aren't always going to go
as you want, even though this is your party, and
I got to tell you something. Usually I would say,

(06:18):
if you have any of us who are or our
dads that are our moms that host you on Fox
Sports Radio, they would probably come in here and say,
oh my gosh, these kids kept me up all night long.
Can't think the wife and my daughter's like, dad, you
probably need to go to bed. That's really early tomorrow morning.
And I didn't even ask. I was like, all right,
night you guys. You gave me the green life. I'm

(06:39):
out of it, alright, see you bye, good night. I
sent you guys kind of my version of her rundown.
I think, what was that like, nine thirty ten o'clock
Central time last night, eight o'clock your time, and I
was out, dude. I was like, I'm gonna be I'll
have a little bit of juice tomorrow morning, because it does.
There is a lot going on right now. You know
you want to do? Do I ease into this thing?

(07:00):
Do I bring you my over the top extra nests
that I usually have. I can't help but do that,
because I mean, just even in baseball, let's just say
you're a casual baseball fan, right, You're I'm considering myself now, kfing.
Probably not a great thing to admit on a sports
radio show. I have become a casual when it comes

(07:20):
to baseball. I love my Dodgers, I'll watch them every
time they're on. But when it comes to the rest
of the league, like I couldn't sit here and break
down anything that's going on with the Mariners.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
I would say, you can fall in line with the
majority of other people in the country. They might following
your own team and really don't follow baseball on a
national basis that way, that's that's not out of the
ordinary these days.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
But I wake up this morning to four walkoffs last night,
and I'm sorry three w I don't know why put
the Dodgers down as a walk off three walk offs.
I put the Dodgers down because show, hey, Otani hit
a home run that I don't think is landed yet. Incredible,
and it was good to see Freddie Freeman back in
the mix. You had three NFL preseason games, all that
have their own kind of overreaction angle to them, including

(08:04):
By the way, this I don't know. Was Arnie on
with Bernie last night? Did I hear that?

Speaker 5 (08:09):
Right?

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Mark? Or Ian? Are you up through the overnight with
with Bernie? Do you do Bernie show as well?

Speaker 6 (08:14):
Yes, but only one of the two nights, and and
Bernie wasn't on last night.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
That would have been malor Oh okay, that's right, Oh gosh,
tonight is tonight? Well, just not last night? You know what.
I'm sorry that didn't make any sense. Right before us
Bernie was on, right, you know, when it's.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Two am, four am, like last night, this morning, the
days run together this time.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
This time, I apologize. I get it right before us
because I have to deal with Arnie Spaniard. Typically. By
the way, my name is Chris Flake. That's Kevin Figures.
Ian and Mark are running the show. The Fellows are
out today now. Typically my spot here my lot in
life on Fox Sports Radio is Sunday nights, and I
get to do a show with Arnie Spaniards adolence. My gosh.

(08:57):
Here's the thing is, he's claim wins for his two
picks in the Hall of Fame game. So he's he started,
he's he's texting me, and he started out he's like
three and ozero, and all three of his picks were
wrong last So technically my man is one three and
that's one and three. I was gonna say one, three
and two, but I don't even know if they're pushes,

(09:19):
so uh. In my world, I'm very excited for the
show tomorrow night so I can hear him try to
spin this. But I'm also very excited because Arnie is
in that category with a lot of people that see
one play from a football player and think, oh my gosh,
this guy's gonna be the greatest thing ever. Case in point. Now,
I'm not gonna go back to last night or gosh,

(09:40):
now you've got me scared. I and I don't know
which way I should put this. I'm gonna go back
to Thursday night. There you go, there you go. I'm
gonna go Joe Milton, Joe Milton. Right, we all saw
it had the past where I don't, I don't. I
couldn't even figure out who that defensive back for Kid
Arolina was should have been cut right. That was the

(10:03):
worst play by a cornerback I've ever seen in my
life for a wide open receiver and Joe Milton hits
him in stride, which if you watched Tennessee football, should
be a surprise that he was able to hit him
in stride. And then against a bunch of guys who
will be checking your id at the door here in
about four months, he threw. He scrambled around for like

(10:24):
five minutes, and everybody loses their mind, like, oh my gosh,
did the Patriots find another gym in the sixth round? No,
they did not. Joe Milton is going to be that
dude that will get talked about incessantly and do the
same thing in the NFL that he did in college.

(10:44):
He disappointed. He is an all first guy off the
bus team member. Yep. If you're like, hey, this is
my quarterback, Like, holy smokes, look at this guy. He
is an absolute beast. In Tennessee fans, you know you
lived it. It's not a shot, it's just the reality.
There's guys that we fall in love with their athleticism,
and unfortunately they just can't. They just can't accurately spit it. Yeah,

(11:10):
he has a bazooka of an arm.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
But he'll throw the ball, you know, sixty yards out
of bounds half of every time.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
And everyone has their one example. Right, Kay, we'll get
Josh Allen. We'll get John Josh Allen was a top
ten pick of the draft, right fifteen pick of the draft.
This is a sixth rounder. I mean, think think Trell Prior,
only less accurate. Accurat, think who's the well I'm blanket

(11:35):
on the guy from Louisville that was on their roster
that had a couple cutting him. They think of just
some of these guys, Johnny Manzelli. You though Manzell was
a first rounder. These are dudes that we fall in
love with because they can run around and they can
make a few plays. But play in and play out,
you've got to be accurate. It's the number one thing

(11:57):
I think for quarterbacks in the NFL. Well, arm strength, sure,
but Kevin, Yeah he is. And we're gonna lose our mind.
Patriot fans are gonna lose their mind. I'm here to
calm me your asses down this morning, settle down, chill out.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Well, that's the thing because he mentioned his talent. He
is a great athlete and great rayle ability. The fact
that he felt to the sixth round should be telling.
That should tell you something. The fact the fact that
he's this great of an athlete, if he was actually
that good of a quarterback prospect, he wouldn't have fallen
that far to the six And you can give me
the Tom Brady's and all that stuff. He wasn't that
great of a natural athlete like this. No, So that's

(12:28):
where those comparisons in Joe Milton from a talent standpoint,
just from pure talent, is a Day one or a Day.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Two guy any any.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Talent value or to tell you that, but the fact
that the guy was never consistent, not accurate at all,
and the receivers didn't know half the time if the
guy was gonna throw the ball accurately towards him or
to throw it out.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Of the stadiums.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
It was just too hard to figure out, which is
why he ended up being drafted where he was drafted.
So what he's gonna end up doing, to your point, Chris,
is showing flashes against guys who, quite honestly, you are not
even gonna make NFL rosters here in the preseas in
a couple of times, and people gonna.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Get all excited. It happens every time every year. Let
me let me read a couple of headlines. Preseason debut
builds buzz for Joe Milton, Patriots, Jared Mayo, Joe Milton,
preseason debut a step forward, Joe Milton's outing created a

(13:21):
buzz with the Patriots, Joe Milton impresses and other quick takeaways.
You got the aggregators that got into it too, Joe
Milton looking comfortable out there for New England. And then
there was there was the I don't really know who
to give credit to on this report because somehow I

(13:44):
found it. Oh, here it is. Chris Mason of mass
Live finally did the thing that needed to be done
because there were people that have started because you see here.
I can't. I don't want to be that guy that
always yells about aggregators. I just I don't want to
be that guy. But I find myself being that guy.

(14:05):
You have got to check them. Part of it is
going full circle because again I work with someone every
Sunday night that falls for every single report that's out there.
I mean Kevin figures every single report that's out there,
he falls for it, And thank you, Chris Mason. I wish,

(14:26):
I wish I could send you a bouquet of whatever
flowers you like, because you have these reports that start
building along the lines of Joe Milton's been out performing
Drake May, and then you have last sorry Thursday night,
and everybody kind of loses their mind about it. Here's

(14:48):
a quote from Chris Mason. This storyline has been aggressively stupid,
maybe the dumbested camp since I started covering the team.
Right now, Jacoby Brissett is clearly the starter. May is
the backup, and Milton is battling with Bailey Zappi for
the third string job. Milton hasn't even won that one yet.

(15:10):
Mason added, they're not tasking Joe Milton with close to
the same responsibility as Drake May. Nothing against Milton, but
he looks like a sixth rounder right now. His arm
strength is extraordinary. But there are times when he's throwing
the same ball on a fifty yard go ball as
a five yard slant.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Oh that sounds familiar, Hey, Kevin, I don't think I've
seen him do that before.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
You know why, We know that because we watch college football,
because we pay attention to the college football game. Guy,
I'm sure Joe Milton's a great guy. I'm sure that
it's gonna be fun to hear a very small faction
of Patriot fans and I'm very sure a much larger
faction of NFL fans that maybe are casuals like I

(15:55):
with Baseball, of other teams other than their own. For
some reason, k I feel like we cover for the NFL.
We follow every second of every team. Fantasy is a
part of that. Gambling obviously is a part of that too.
But people will see Joe Milton, it's like, oh my gosh,
that was the most amazing thing I've ever seen. He
could start there, and the reality is he's just he's

(16:16):
not that good. He's just not And it's funny. The
same thing happened in college real quick. And then we'll
get a break. We'll catch everything from last night or
later or earlier this evening. The thing that's fascinating to
me is the lack of you people watching college football

(16:37):
this time of year still blows my mind. And this
happened at Tennessee. He went out against Clemson after Hennon
Hooker got hurt and had a really good bowl game,
and everyone lost their mind. And then what happened whenever
you got into the regular season, you quickly realized, oh,
oh my gosh, this guy's got no touch this. And

(16:57):
he had two of the better quarterback coaches in all
of college football, and his head coach Josh Hipel at
Tennessee and his offensive coordinator Joey Halsley at Tennessee. So,
k fig, I know, we've got games from earlier that
we'll talk about. We'll get into the Michael Pinnocks start.
We'll talk about the Ravens and kind of the way

(17:19):
things look for them. No starters really went in the
Dolphins game. I mean I think not only did the
starters not go, but I don't think Mike mcganiel even
played his first round picks.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
You know.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
But I did want to go full circle to start
the show back to Thursday night. Everybody call him down
on the Joe Milton train. This is going to sound wild,
but we've seen it. It's a fun highlight, but in
the end, it is not what it needs to be
for him. Skill set. Well, I'll put it this way.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Did the Patriots find themselves at any point this season
having Joe Milton behind center, it's been an absolute disaster
of a season, or is going to be a disaster
of a season. I'll put it that way. And no
indictment on him as an individual. He might look he
might develop in a couple of years and turn out
to be a good quarterback of the NFL level. I
don't see it, but it can always happen. But the
idea that based on one throw in one preseason game

(18:11):
against to your point, a guy that's gonna be, you know,
flipping burgers or something at some point in the next
couple of weeks. No offense to anybody that flips burgers,
but there's a stark difference, and I think anybody that
Flipsbergers will tell you there's difference between doing that and
playing defensive back of the NFL. It's it's completely insane,
And to your point, this happens every single year.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Every year, man, every year. My favorite Patriot moment over
the last three years was in twenty twenty two Monday Night,
because I get it. You lose Tom Brady, You're constantly
trying to find that next court who's going to be
our guy. Mac Jones was not that guy. But they
were playing a Monday night football game against the Bears

(18:51):
and Bailey Zappi comes in off the bench right everyone
loses their mind and what does he do. He leads
him right down the field to a touchdown, Like, oh
my gosh, we got our dude, we got our do
They lost the game thirty three to fourteen to the Bears.
So it's just it's one of those moments where calm
down a little bit, everybody chill out. It's fun because

(19:12):
we haven't heard, we haven't had football in a long time,
and it's fun to lose our minds. But I feel
like we got to keep some things in perspective. Okay,
I felt like we eased into me being a maniac
like I usually am. So when we come back, kfig,
let's get a let's get a recap of all the
fun from last night, the three NFL games, the three
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(19:34):
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Speaker 2 (20:25):
All Right, it's the fellas, Aunt and Jason taking the
day off, so that means I get to hang out
with Kevin Figures. It's kind of funny though, isn't it.
Jason Jason Fits is a diehard Raiders guy like I am,
and so when Jason takes the day off, you slide
in with another Raiders fan. I have. Let me see,
where did I earmark our Raiders conversation? The show is

(20:47):
very planned out. Our one was a scattershoot hour and
we're getting through it, but we got to get to
it before the final hour of the show. We gotta
get to it before the final hour of the show.
I am not doing doing well. I'm not doing well
the reports on this quarterback, not only in Vegas right now. Yeah,
it's not looking good. I did my quick opinion on

(21:08):
this before we get to your update and get all
the highlights from last night. I think they really want
an O'Connell to step up and win the job, and
I don't think he has.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Yeah, that's the problem. It sounds like everybody is an
Aiden's corner. They want him or trying to will him
to be able to win it, and he is just
not taking advantage of it.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
And then Gardner Minshew isn't running away with it part
of them, even though he's more mobile because he can't
stop throwing interceptions. So, yeah, it got so bad last night.
It got so bad last night that whenever I was
putting the show together, I did the old Google search
of available free agent quarterbacks? Who is out there? Where's

(21:48):
Joe Flacco? Come on, Joe, come back? You could do this,
But of the best remaining free agent quarterbacks available, ah,
what did we have? Ryan Tannehill, who I gotta be
honest with you, kind of surprised he doesn't have a
team I mean, this is a guy that the Titans

(22:09):
gave a massive contract to not too terribly long ago,
and he's in the mix last year. Now he's just
on the beach.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
He's also a guy that completed like three passes in
a playoff, a playoff win some of year. A couple
of years ago, he got off to a great start
in Miami, had that injury, was never the same. It
was a solid player for Tennessee. But I don't know
if he's people. I'm not surprised that people weren't banging
on his door. Let's put it that way.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Trevor Simeon, do anything for you? Not a damn Blaine Gabbert. No,
Ben Denucci had like a run with the Cowboys for
a while. Bendanucci. That's right, Kellen Maud, you want to
go back. I'm sure there's some old takes exposed from
draft experts. The Vikings got the steal of the draft,
but only got mad when Mike Zimmer was like, yeah,

(22:53):
he's terrible. I don't know, we can't play him. And
then of course there's always Nathan Peterman. Yeah, well, to
be good.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
The Raiders at the Nathan Peterman experiment already when John
Ruden was there.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
So one NFL story that is making a drownds here
this morning and late last night was the Dak Prescott
sitting out of practice right now. I don't I don't
mean to burst anyone's bubble, but Dak Prescott's not getting
traded anywhere in the preseason. The Cowboys don't have another option.

(23:26):
Quarterback trades are just something that don't happen. And as
much as you guys, you people can hate on Dak Prescott,
he's He's the best option the Cowboys have to win
this year. He's the best option they have. Now. Will
he end up with the Cowboys next season? I don't
think so. But for twenty twenty four, Jerry wants to

(23:46):
win a Super Bowl. He ain't going anywhere. They're not
trading a quarterback, so you can stop that. But what
I do find fascinating how hurt is he? Now? Okay, thig,
I mean, this is one of the those situations that
has been scoffed at. He wore the walking boot on

(24:06):
vacation and I was like, who wears a walking boot
on vacation? Jeff Schwartz, our buddy here on Fox Sports Radio.
We've worked together a couple of times, and he goes, Listen,
you don't really wear a walking boot. You might just
wear a compression sock. If it's the same injury that
he's been dealing with. So he's not getting dealt. But kfik,
I'm starting to get a little bit worried about his

(24:27):
health going forward. It's not a guy that's been able
to consistently play seventeen well sixteen and back in the day.
He's battled injuries. Cowboys have had to have a good
option as the backup at times because you know he's
he's injury I hate say injury prone about anyone, but
he's proven a had to have a few injury issues

(24:47):
in the NFL. So to me, I'm not trying to
get too carried away. But the storyline here isn't about
a deal or about the Cowboys moving on from him.
The storyline to me here is is this dude going
to be ready go when the season gets here. I
believe that he will.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
It's probably more of a precautionary thing than anything at
this point in time. And by the way, even if
he is, I don't know if he's necessarily injury prone.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
You're talking about two seasons.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
He had the major injury a couple of years ago
where he played what four or five games If he
had two years ago he had played I think twelve
or thirteen. But generally speaking, he's been fairly durable throughout
his career. Now, whether this is going to be a
lingering foot issue that's gonna hamper him the remainder of
his career, you know, none of us really know that.
Point one thing I do know the Cowboys are most likely,
just chances are not gonna do better than him when

(25:34):
it comes to hitting the open market for a quarterback
going into next offseason, whatever foot issue he's dealing with,
it will behoove him to try to find a way
to get a contract extension done. Just knowing where these
quarterback contracts are going on, I know you're gonna feel
like you're overpaying him to a certain degree, but you're
the Cowboys. You're not going to be bad enough to
get to the top of the draft to be able
to draft, you know, an impact player at the quarterback position.

(25:56):
And even if you were, there's no guarantee that Caleb
Williams is going to be a superstar. We all think
he will be but you just never know what the
situation is going to be when you have a rookie quarterback.
So I think he rather dance with the devil that
you know than the devil that you don't. So while
they're playing around and not giving them a contract extension,
I don't really understand. If you're a team that has
designs of competing for a championship not only this year,

(26:17):
but next year and years after that, I really don't
understand why you're messing around and not being serious about
giving him a contract extension. It doesn't make a lot
of sense to me. It is very unfair right now.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Has he left a few games and then come back, Absolutely,
But in the last three seasons, in the last he's
only missed four starts, but in two of the last
four he's missed a lot of games. That includes that
devastating ankle injury. And some would say, well, yeah, he's
getting older, but it's very unfair. He's very unfair to

(26:49):
say that. And I also see what you're doing here, KF,
because I'm doing the same thing too. I realize there's
a very good chance that he's going to be in
the Silver and Black next year if he hits the
open market. So now I'm trying to justify everything about him.
Get his arm angle. It's really good man. You guys
don't understand the leader that he is. He's not the problem.
The Cowboys are. The problem's working to us. See you work, yes,
Chris to a certain degree. And he's had his playoff shortcomings,

(27:11):
to say the least. This guy finished second in MVP
voting last year. Say what you want about him, he
has been as effective. He's a top ten regular season
quarterback in the NFL. The numbers prove that out. Now.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Whether or not he's going to turn that into being
a playoff performer, eventually, none of us will ever know.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Let's put it this way, if he.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Was on the open market, there would be a handful
of teams that will be lining up to sign him,
because that's how important the quarterback position is, and that's
how mediocre the position is for many teams in the league.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Right now. All right, when we come back to the
tyrack dot Com studios, I'm gonna dive in all the
highlights from last night, But first k Figgs gonna lay
the foundation with what's trending, what's going on? Kevin Figures all.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Right, Well, we'll start with Major League Baseball from Friday night.
Chris sho haal Tani and Freddie Freeman each hitting home
runs for the Dodgers. They pick up a nine to
five victory over the Pirates, Seattle, shutting out the Mets
sixth nothing. John Peterson a home run for Arizona. They've
won three of their last four. Three to two was
a final there as they walked off the Phillies. Colorado
handed Atlanta their sixth consecutive loss. Padres winning their sixth

(28:11):
in a row and extra innings victory over Miami. Baltimore
with a half game lead over the Yankees in the
American League East after they picked up a four to
one victory over Tampa. The Twins swept a day night
doubleheader over Cleveland, whose lead in the AL Central is
now down to a game and a half overt Minnesota.
NFL three preseason games on the slate on Friday, including
in Miami, where the Dolphins defeated the Falcons. The eighth

(28:33):
overall pick for Atlanta, Michael Pennocks Junior, got the start,
was nine of sixteen for one hundred and four yards.
Houston beat the Steelers C J. Stroud playing a couple
of possessions and throwing a touchdown pass justin fields five
of six passing for sixty seven yards.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Some Olympic action going on right now.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Bronze medal match in women's water polo, United States, a
ten to nine lead over the Netherlands, three minutes to
go there in the fourth and a bronze medal game
in men's basketball Serbia right now, a ten point lead
over Germany forty one to thirty one with about four
and a half minutes to go in the first half.
Nikola Jokic ten points, six assists and a steal. All right,

(29:09):
back to the Fellas, The Fellas eighty six The Fellas.
Though you got Kevin Figures, He's always here. Ian and
Mark are always here. My name is Chris Plank.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
You can follow us as the program progresses throughout this
Saturday morning. Kevin what is at K FIG one? K
fig one, Yes, a Plank show. Everyone, go follow us
at Fox Sports Radio. Okay, you heard Kevin give you
the update on the games from last night. Let's go
a little bit more in depth. First, we did have
three walk offs in Major League Baseball last night. Let's

(29:41):
start with the Washington. The Washington Nationals won a game
three two pitch from Joyce, so we gonna line drive.

Speaker 8 (29:48):
I'll have to go to the second basement. Your made
each them up. It goes in the right center field.
Young scores the winning run. They're gonna mom Alex Paull
tween first and second. The Nationals winn three to two.
They'll scored a single, a laser shot off the club.
The Army couldn't catch it, and the national score just

(30:08):
their second walk off win of the season.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
They're eleven games under five hundred. Has any congratulations to
the Nats on the three to two win last night
and getting the hit off of Ben Joyce, who won
few brobably one of the few bright spots for the Angels.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
This guy's clocking into like one hundred and four miles
an hour routinely every single night.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
I don't know what to make of the Giants, but
last night the always exciting walkoff sack Fly.

Speaker 9 (30:34):
The pitch he hits on the left, indeed going back
to make the catch, McKinstry tagging from third Conforta.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
He comes home and stores the Lenny run.

Speaker 9 (30:48):
And the Giants get their tenth walk off of the year.
They beat the Tigers three to two. Mark Hanna with
the sacrifice.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Fly to get it done his former team Canna. By
the way, how about that two walk off wins this
year for the Nats, ten for the Giants. Wow? Ten?
You brought this up on the standings. I mean, I'm
not sitting here trying to spike the ball yet, but
I don't think the Giants are going to factor into

(31:18):
the National League West race, which is suddenly getting a
little bit tighter. But as far as the wild card
is concerned, only two gives back. They're right the world
card spot there, They're right there. We got one more,
by the way. First piece courtesy of the Nationals Radio Network.
Second piece courtesy of the San Francisco Giants Radio Network.
And then late into a Friday night out in the desert,

(31:40):
now the first pitch, del Castile swings.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
High drive right field, walk.

Speaker 10 (31:46):
Up over.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Adrea del Castillo. You won't hit a better first homer
to start your major league career. Game winner.

Speaker 11 (31:58):
Final scar three too, as the rookies showered at home
play with love from his teammates. Just an incredible first
pitch bomb.

Speaker 8 (32:09):
And the Diamondbacks have tied this series up with a
three to two walk off win.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Every single team in the National League West right now
is currently in the midst of a winning streak, which
is kind of wild. The Padres have won six in
a row. They've cut the Dodgers lead to two and
a half, Diamondbacks get the win and the Dodgers get
to win. Last night, Giants, that walk off win was
their third in a row. And I don't even know
if we need to talk about.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
The Rockies, donill The only reason you have mentioned the
Rockies is that they handed the Braves are sixth straight loss,
and the Braves are dropping precipitously out in the AL.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
East or in l least excuse me, I mean speaking
of that three of the four teams in the in
the NL Easter currently on skids. Oh, but Phillis are
playing that great right now either. But the Dodgers get
something from show. Hey last night, listen. I know this
sounds odd to say, but listen to this home run
there goes for a second. Oh Telly, it's a high

(33:02):
five hol center.

Speaker 6 (33:04):
Way back in doe two line home line shot, old
times thirty fifth of the season.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
The Dodgers lead up three nothing.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Oh, you could just hear it off the bat and
the fact that you mentioned and that's a five point
seventy LA Sports on the call there. So you mentioned
the hearing it off the bat. So Dave Roberts after
the game said, he said, I'll play with the Barry
Bonds in San Francisco. And even he didn't have balls
jump off the bat the way showhy does big al
insane of a statement, that.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Is, are we in a position the Royal? We where
like suddenly thinking, dude, the West, the West is in
peril right now. Now, granted the Dodgers are getting healthy, Sure,
Mookie Betts is coming back. He's not gonna play short.
They're gona put him out in right field, at least
according to some of the or Now. I don't know
if that ends up factoring into him moving back to

(33:56):
short or if they feel better with the depth that
they have, but sounds as if they'd rather have him
out there in right field. He feels more comfortable than
the right field. So they made that decision.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Dave Roberts pretty much confirmed it on Friday night before
the game. Yeah, is there panic at all? Well, panic
is strong. I'd say there's concern. The only reason there's
not panic is because, as you mentioned, they've had so
many injuries. The starting staff in the bullpen, Mookie Bets
Freddie miss time because of the health issues with his son,
so they've had so max months. He hasn't played in

(34:25):
two and a half months. He's going going to rehab
a signon here pretty soon. So the thought is if
and when they can get themselves healthy and get these
guys enough at bats that they should should end up,
you know, end up being able to be fine towards
the end of the season. If everybody was healthy and
they were struggling, it'd be a different story. I will
say they should be very concerned about a team like
Arizona who came on late last season and they seem

(34:46):
to be coming on again this.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Year and haven't even been fully healthy. You know.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
The Merrill Kelly I think is going to make his
first start of the season or our first start in
a while, I should say, on Sunday or Monday.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
I believe their offense is coming. Could tell.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Marte has been one of the best players the National
League and is one of the front runners for National
League MVP. So Arizona even more so than San Diego.
I think is a team that a lot of people,
not just the Dodgers, the National League in general, should
really be afraid of.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Right now, when we come back to the ti rack
dot Com Studios, Oh, there's wide a receiver drama. But
there's one big name that's not at camp and it's
kind of flying under the radar. We'll dive into it
next on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio, Hey.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
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(35:51):
to you live from the tire rack dot Com Studios,
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Now we're hitting all the Olympics, the preview of the
basketball game coming up the top, and next hour we'll
get into the drama involving Jason Tatum. And we got
a lot of college football because it's getting here. The
poll was released this week. You got two college football

(36:13):
dudes and kfigging myself. So we'll spend a lot of
hour number three getting into it. Plus I need Ian
Roddy to sell me on his Trojans bouncing back this year.
In the meantime, we hear all the Brandon Ayuk news,
all the CD Lamb news we can handle. I mean,
it is, would you say, over the top a little bit,
kfig with the amount of information we seem to be

(36:33):
getting on whether or not Ayuk is getting dealt our,
Jerry Jones is dissing CD Lamb.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
There's a lot out there, there is, and a lot
of it doesn't make a lot of sense. One, Brandon
Ayuk is a good player, but this guy is not
the second coming of Randy Moss either. So the problem
is where he gets off asking for a Jinoma's contract
but then also trying to dictate where he goes to.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
That amazes me.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
And then Jerry Jones, similar to the Dak Prescott situation,
it's come out publicly. It doesn't help yourself or help
your calls with cebe Lamb. Now, granted I realized that
you know CD is the one who's under contract and
he's he's holding out, so and eventually he's not going
to set out the entire season. You're just not helping yourself,
Jerry Jones. You come out and say that there's no
sense of urgency to bring him back in. How do
you just just say, you know what, we're dedicated to

(37:16):
try to bring him back in. CD is a part
of the Cowboys. We want to keep them that way.
What's wrong with the political answer? Because now you're just
you're just raising more questions and it allows CD to
send out a tweet which allows people like us to
talk more about these sort of things.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah, social media fights, you got, Yeah, you got now.
Somehow Amari Cooper gets dragged into this because he's got
He's been mentioned in the Brandon Ayuk trade rumors and
we're overanalyzing an Instagram post from Brandon from uh Mary
Cooper and then Brandon Ayuk is like calling out the

(37:48):
fan sites.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
This is NBA stuff in the usually, Chris, this is
unbecoming of the NFL. Typically, I did have.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
A former wide receivers coach wants to tell me that
he likes to have dudes that are built kind of
like a power forward, and I was like, Oh, there
you go. That makes sense the wide receivers like NBA guys.
But let's just I don't know if this is putting
a cap on it or if this is trying just
to figure it out. Are uk lamb now Cooper, you

(38:18):
hear a lot about it. The DeVante Adams situation is
quiet because Davante's not even a camp right now. Correct.
And the child, I don't think he's going to be
at the game today in Minnesota. I'm not sure. I
don't I don't care. I think it's one of the
dumbest things most of these broadcasts that the local networks do.
It's cool for the local broadcasters, and I love seeing

(38:40):
dudes get a chance to call in NFL games that
don't normally do it. They'll be like Kurt Minifie calls
a game, and he doesn't call games, he's usually in
the studio. I think it's what Seattle. He's really good
at it, so I like watching and hearing him. But
all you end up doing with these starters that don't
play is interviewing them with their jersey on, and they
have no care about what's going on. So I don't

(39:01):
care if Devanta Adams isn't at the game, But do
we start to concern ourselves with him not being in camp.
I wanted to see his kid. I want him to
see the birth of his kid. Don't care about that.
But this going on for a while, now, kfig it
is I mean for him to be gone?

Speaker 3 (39:15):
I mean this has been what four or five days,
almost a better part of an entire week at this
point that he's been going away from the team.

Speaker 7 (39:20):
Now.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Granted they were not at home in Vegas either. They
just broke camp I believe on Wednesday. Yeah, in coast
Ta Mesa, near Los Angeles. So I guess he wanted
to be a little bit closer to his wife. Look,
if the game was in Las Vegas coming up later today,
maybe he'd be at the game. Maybe it'd be a
little bit different. I'm not one hundred percent sure. Am
I overly concerned about it?

Speaker 12 (39:39):
No?

Speaker 3 (39:40):
But I think the most pressing issue talking about all
the receivers, I do think Devantae Adams probably has more
grounds than anybody to be a question mark as to
whether or not he's actually gonna stick with the team
he's on Because as of right now, as much as
I love the Raiders. I don't know if the arrow's
really pointing up for them this year as far as
being a playoff contender, I don't either.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
He's very necessary, he's very nice, necessary for the Raiders
to be good this season, if if their offense is
gonna be good with the reports that are coming out
as far as the quarterback situation is concerned. But here's
the thing. I know the salary CAP's real, and everyone
points out, you know, the dude's due seventeen million dollars

(40:18):
this season. So when you have more on so like
the Bills need to go get Davonte Adams. You're asking
him to take a nine million dollar pay cut to
try to make it work this season for him. You
can make you can make things work with the salary cap,
but inevitably that bill comes and I just he's not
getting traded. It's just not gonna happen. Now. Could something

(40:39):
happen at the trade deadline? I don't know. I don't
think so. But when you start hearing go get him,
it's just it doesn't it doesn't work. It doesn't make sense.
When we come back to the Tirack dot Com Studios,
does the NBA make sense. We'll talk about it next.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
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(41:20):
should be. By the way, just on baby update, because
I'm sure there's a faction of fathers moms that are
up early on the in essential time zone, maybe even
on the on the West Coast, trying to get that
kid back to bed. How is how's the little one sleeping?
Kfig How we doing?

Speaker 3 (41:37):
I was doing well for about a week and a half,
and I think we've hit a newer term that I
hadn't heard until recently, called sleep regression.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
So yeah, so apparently they sleep.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Well for a little bit of time, then all of
a sudden it kind of goes back cycles back to
the beginning where they're sleeping for you know, two and
a half three hours at a time, and then that
lasts for a few weeks. And I don't know if
this is something you experienced though, not Chris back in
the day with your little ones at all, but it's
kind of something that we're going through. So you feel like, oh,
we've turned a corner. He's sleeping eight nine hours. Then
all of a sudden, bam, Oh he only slept for

(42:07):
three and a half hours. Let's get him up, feed
him and put him back down. Oh he only slept
for three and a half more hours. Let's go back
and do it again. So we're kind of at that
moment in time right now is kind of where we're sitting.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
But it's good news. This is what I was always told. Okay,
And again maybe I'm just trying to make you feel
good about this, Kfig. Apparently it's a sign of developmental progression.
That's why I hear okay, and that's what Google told me.
So good exactly same, by the way, we're pumped to

(42:39):
be here on a Saturday morning again, Anthony Gargano and
Jason Fitzer out, but we'll still get you some Raiders
and Eagles talking here at some point because I have
ear marked a lot of NFL talk for later on
in the program. But Kevin, I do feel like the
number one story of the day today is team USA

(43:00):
versus France. No Olympic basketball. Now, I ask this general question,
in your opinion and all y'all's opinion, how important is
this for USA basketball? I mean, it's it's not. Everyone
wants to compare everything to the Dream Team, and I
don't know why we do this. It's I get it.

(43:21):
We got a lot of hours to fill, we got
a lot of debates to be had. But I mean,
in fairness, there was like one guy that played on
any of the overseas, any of the foreign teams for
you know, Portugal or Right and Gola, that played in
the NBA, and was Tony Koukoach. And he was young

(43:43):
and didn't have a lot of experience at that point.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
He hadn't even played yet he got drafted, He didn't
even get planned and played yet.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
I don't think now every team's roster in the Olympics,
every single team has at least a dude and multiple
dudes that play in the NBA. And I'll be giving
you an example. I thought Thursday was amazing. I thought
the comfort behind win against Serbia was amazing. That's how

(44:11):
it was. I thought it was one of the coolest
Olympic moments I've seen in an era, In an era
where we debate about what the games mean to athletes, right,
we think the rob speaking for everyone here, for us
to jump on board with me, the royal. We feel
like it's about money, right, It's about cash. It's about

(44:32):
how much did you make? Are you now a movie star?
Are you a music mogul? Are you this? Are you that?
Are you an entrepreneur like Kevin Durant. I mean, it's
just all these things seem to matter more than the
game and winning. And when you see a moment like that,
and you I have looked at the still shots of
Joel Embiid, Steph Curry and Lebron James when they're face

(44:56):
to face, that moment with Kevin Durant with his fist
up after he hit the dagger three. I mean, I
don't know about you, k Fig. I love that. I
think it's awesome. It's like, oh, my gosh, basketball matters
to them. So I'm fired up, I'm pumped. I'm like,
my gosh, I can't believe they came back and won
this game and I flip on my radio, I open

(45:17):
up my app I'm listening to my shows, and I
hear people that are saying, oh, what an embarrassment. I mean,
have you guys watched International basketball? Arnie again wanted Steve
Kerr fired after the South Sudan exhibition game. It's an
exhibition game for an exhibit, you need to be fired.
And I understand a lot of it is you got

(45:39):
to play the bit and it's got to be tongue
in cheek. But to me, k fig, I thought that
was awesome and I was a little bit surprised by
the reaction, and I in other words, here's a headlinem
big on headlines. Could you imagine the embarrassment of playing
in the bronze medal game? No, I couldn't because they won,

(46:00):
They came back and they won the game. And you're
playing a team that has a dude that's won the
MVP almost on the rag. They should name it the
Nikola Jokic Award. And I don't care if you have
superstars all around. That dude's amazing. So I don't know
how you guys feel. We had a debate yesterday on

(46:22):
my local show on the ref one of our affiliates
in Norman, and it was is this something you celebrate
or is it something that you're embarrassed by? And I
would say a majority of the people that checked in,
hey man, it was awesome. We won. They won the game.
This is a team that has been like most NBA stories,
Kevin figures Team USA loaded with NBA players, has been

(46:46):
dominated by drama. Is Jason Taitum playing? Is Kevin Durant healthy?
Why is Kawhi Leonard going home? Does Steve Kerr understand
the rotations? Did they bring in the right now? Why
is Jalen Brown not here? And then whenever they get
out there in that moment where they're not playing their best,
it clicks and they win. And today they've got a

(47:06):
chance in what I think is a hostile environment. And
I mean, listen, I'm sure Paris and France wants Team
France to win, but there are a lot of NBA
fans that are excited to have the opportunity to see
Lebron James and Steph Curry and Kevin Durant play in person.
So real quick, before we look ahead to today, how
did you view Thursday? Were you like me where you're

(47:26):
like It is awesome in a time when basketball has
become global and is as competitive as it's ever been.
I love seeing Team USA go out there and still
take care of business.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
I'm with you and so, but it took me back
to two thousand and eight, the Redeem Team and Redeems.
They ran over they ran rough, shot over some teams.
But that gold medal matchup they played against Spain, that
was the Gasal brothers and Abaca and Rudy Fernandez, like
loaded with NBA players, just like the Redeem Team was,
and that was like a three point game of like
ninety seconds left. Brian hit some big shots like that.

(47:58):
That was amazing, and that meant so much because we
had won gold and after the embarrassment and athletes in
two thousand and four, which was an embarrassment.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
But now you fast.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Forward now to your point, and the context gets lost
a lot of times. We're so used to the United
States because it's our sport and we have all the
best athletes, and you look at the NBA, it's mostly
American players.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Although now I don't know if it's necessarily true.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Look at the All Star Game and tell me how
many players are actually pray for to play for Team
USA VERSUS Canada or Serbia or somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
But I digress.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
And also people also don't want to hear this, but
it's the truth, whether you want to hear it or not.
These national teams play with each other a lot and
play together a lot more than our NBA talent does.
We throw these guys together for a single summer and
tell them, all right, let's figure this all out. Where
a lot of these guys, you know, Jokich and Bogdanovich
and these guys included, have been playing together since they
were kids, and so they have continuity. They do play

(48:50):
well together. So I thought it was phenomenal. I'd rather
the United States not go down by seventeen points and
have to have a mad scramble of late in the
third and the fourth quarter to try to come back
and win. But how you cannot get a jolt of
excitement and be fired up and seeing Kevin Durant and
Steph Curry and Lebron Steph Curry and Lebron James, who
face each other in the NBA Finals fifteen thousand consecutive years,

(49:12):
bumping chess and exciting and celebrating the fact that they
came back and kept their chances of winning gold alive.
How do you not get fired up about something like that.
I don't understand it.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
I feel I feel as if we become so greedy
and in cynical that we were losing sight of the
fun of it. I mean, I'm just losing my mind
and hearing that it's embarrassment. How embarrassing is that that
it was a tight game. Well, they lost to France
in the twenty twenty Olympics in the in the pool play.

(49:46):
You know, was that embarrassing? Because they still won the
gold medal and no one even remembers that. No one
even remembers it, right, And the you know, the bottom
line is, could this team have been put together differently?
Maybe even better? Sure is Kevin figures one hundred percent
right whenever he says it's a battle to get used

(50:09):
to everyone's nuances and mannerisms and practicing together matters absolutely,
But I can't I can't help but laugh whenever I
just see this overall negative vibe because they played a
close games, as once was infamously said a lot here

(50:29):
on Fox Sports Radio, look at the game tape. Pay attention.
It's not that hard now we're here for the casuals.
I'm here for you on this because a lot of
times you'll see a headline or a game's like, wow,
they were down seventeen, this must be terrible, and then
you look at the Serbia roster you're like, oh my gosh.
Now I did see a note this week, and I

(50:49):
can't remember which former NBA player brought it up, but
if the Yugoslavia men's basketball team, the men's national team
would be unstopped right now? Yeah they could.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Yeah, if they could combine the forces again, yeah, if.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
They want to get back together, then we might really
have an issue whatever comes to the Olympic Games. But
the bottom line is it's it's a global game. You
look at the NBA draft, man, it was all French
guys in the right the top in the draft.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
And that's where we're headed. That's where we're going. And
I got news for people. This is not going to
get any better for the United States. I just mentioned
a second ago. How you look at the you mentioned
the draft, look at the All Star Game. A lot
of the best players are not necessarily American, and it's
trending more and more and more away from that direction.
So I think our days of dominating basketball at an

(51:44):
international level are numbered. This is not to say that
we're not going to win golds anymore, that we're not
going to be We're still not going to be good.
I just don't think it's going to be an automatic
shoe win, that we're just gonna win gold every single
solitary year, and that will be And also, Chris, it
should not be a disappointment if we don't win gold
every single solitary year. I think is the greater point.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Yeah, I just I kind of stepped back every now
and then, and I you know, I thoroughly I thoroughly
enjoyed the discourse, the debate, all the fun, right, it's
it's part of it. I will never, for the life
of me, just understand the negativity. It's like, oh, I
Steve Kerrz watched this, they're playing the Golden Medal game.

(52:23):
What do you want to do? What? What are you
talking about?

Speaker 12 (52:25):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (52:25):
They screwed up. Now they're finally getting it right with
starting Durant. Well, I mean Darrant still played a lot
of minutes.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
And for all the people clamoring for Jason Tatum, who
was sitting like shooting like twenty percent from the field
or something like that. By the way, he's not like
when Jason's playing that he's dominating. Let's point that out too.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
By the way, speaking of that, I do want to
talk about Jason Tatum a little bit when we come back.
I really I don't want to say I have an
issue with him by any stretch of the imagination, but
I think there's better ways to handle your frustration to
what Jason Tatum has done, or at least what it
appears as he has done. But real quick, before we

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grab a break and get to that, is it kind
of a captain obvious thing to say, Man, this is
super important. This is big time for Team USA. This
is a big time for a team USA basketball to
fight through the NBA ization. By that, I mean the
drama and the storylines that are all around it, and
then of course win the gold medal on foreign turf
against the host I mean, I think it's a big deal.

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I also think that no matter what happens when they
win gold, someone's gonna find something to grinch and mode about,
because that's what we do. But on a level of importance,
kfig pretty.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
High for them to win today extremely high and well,
especially considering the scrutiny they got earlier this week the
Serbia game. Can you imagine if they lose this one
and people are not going to take into account that
the France to the French team has a bunch of
NBA players on it, or that they're playing all their
home turf, all they're gonna say is.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
This is the team, you guys, compare it to the
Dream Team. The Dream Team wouldn't have struggled against France.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
It's like, well, if the Dream Team was playing against
a roster full of NBA players, they probably would have
had a little bit of a sweat, just a little bit,
as opposed to all the guys that are playing back
in the day.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
I just I don't understand. I think Brian know that
had thrown this out earlier this week, or maybe it
was last week, and we gotta stop comparing eras and
I know that we're never going to and I get it,
and I understand it, and it's part of the fun
of sports radio. But to make declarative statements, it's just

(54:23):
it's dumb, right from the people from everyone that's like, oh,
you know, Larry Bird and Team USA, would run circles
around this team to those that are like, oh, the
the athletes today are infinitely more talented than those in
the in the nineties, it's just it's it's dumb, it's pointless,
and bottom line, the Dream Team is one of the
greatest collections of talent that we've ever seen, period. And

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they were playing against a bunch of people that weren't
NBA players, that had professional basketball leagues, but there weren't
a lot of NBA dudes they were playing. So you
can't compare that carnage to today's. And what's even dumber
is to try to compare anything to going forward that
was a phenomenon. Is this a great collection of talent?
You bet it is. But let's just have fun and

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enjoy it. Why does everything have to be a debate?
Why does everything have to be a fight? Can't we
sit back and say, man, that was fun. Came back
from seventeen down fun? Why who did you see how
much they cared about basketball? It was amazing For a moment.
It wasn't about well, you know, he's got a load manage,
he's got a load manage, or he's in the new

(55:28):
remake of XYZ movie. It was about hoops. It's just
embrace it, man, all right, not done with USA basketball
because when we come back, let's talk a little bit
about Jason Tatum. How do you guys feel about the
way that he's handling this or maybe you turn and
you say, oh, Plank, I've been here for the drama
of it. This is Steve Kerr. He's got a bone

(55:50):
to pick with Jason Tatum. We'll dive into it next.
And by the way, there's more than just basketball going on.
Apparently there is a sport that we're supposed to dominate
that we apparently suck at. We'll get to it next.
Kevin Figures, I'm Chris Plank. It's the Fellas. I'm Fox
Sports Radio. All right, it's the fellas Fox Sports Radio
coming here laugh from the Tirack dot Com studios and

(56:13):
and Jay Fitzer out that's Kevin Figures. I'm Chris Plank.
Follow us on Twitter at kfig one. That's two g's
I'm at Plank show. Ian's awesome on Twitter too at
Ian Roddy Underscore Mark on Twitter. Anyway, we're hanging out
on a Saturday morning and it's funny because today Team
USA plays for a goal in men's basketball. But real quick,

(56:38):
we got to bring up something that is mind blowing
to me. Why in the world, Kevin figures, can we
not complete a four by one hundred meter relay with
our men's track and field team?

Speaker 3 (56:52):
We thought it looking like an SNL skit or something.
According to a report from.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Ruters Reuters, I've always get it, really, The US has
now had eleven dropped batons, disqualifications or bands in the
Olympics and World Championships since nineteen ninety five. The team
hasn't medaled in the four medaled in the four x
one hundred relay since taking silver twenty years ago at

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the four Athens Games. The team's last gold medal was
at the two thousand Sydney Olympics, and prior to that,
team USA had won this event fifteen times, which is
thirteen more than any other nation. Now, I'm not a
track and field guy, and I'm not going to sit

(57:43):
here and try to act like I know the nuances
of the baton passing or any of that. In fact,
I've been slow my whole life. I was not even
a dude that can say when I ran track and
field in high school, kfake. I can't. I never did,
so I don't understand the true nuances of it. I
see Carl Lewis speaking out about it. He went off,

(58:04):
he he did what in the world. It's wild. The
US is dominating track and field, the men are dominating
track and field, and yet you can't win the four
by one hundred men's relay.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
And I don't know know or care if Noah Lyles
would have been there or not, if it would have
really made a difference, to be honest, if guys can't
complete a simple and also, like you, Chris, I didn't
run track, you know, never been a fast guy. So
I say you can't execute something as simple as doing
a handoff. Come on, please note, these are guys that
do this for a living. This is their livelihood. And

(58:38):
we have been to your point, what fifteen straight years
or whatever, we meddled or dominated the sport for How
could we have fallen off that precipitously and for this long.
That's the part that doesn't make a lot of sense.
We clearly have the athletes and we were We're dominating,
you know, the one hundred and many of these other
individual events. We're doing just fine. So what is the

(58:59):
shortfall here? Carl Lewis said it was something political to
do with it, so basically implying that we're not sending
our best athletes, or at least not the best guy
guys for this particular event. So I don't know if
we're picking more individuals and we're trying to get more
sponsorship money for individual guys as opposed to guys who
would be better off from a team standpoint. I don't
know one thousand percent know what he means. But whatever,

(59:20):
whatever we're doing, we I'll say, as the United States
is not working.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Carl Lewis's tweet that KFIG is referring to, it's time
to blow up the system. This continues to be completely unacceptable.
It is clear that everyone at any adds at USA
Track and Field is more concerned with relationships than winning.
No athlete should step on the track and run another

(59:46):
relay until this program is changed from top to bottom.
That's heavy, man, that's it is hardcore. I don't again,
I don't understand the nuances, but I mean imagine dominated,
well not imagine we're we the royal we we're Americans
are dominating track and field and the four by one

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hundred women's relay was one of the coolest things. Sarry
Richardson has become a rock star, you know. And I've
become even a bigger fan realizing everything that she has
gone through and knowing the dominance she could have had
four years ago, and we banned her for weed as
she dealt with a family tragedy, and we've vilified for

(01:00:34):
a lot of people too. You know, I have become
the biggest Shikari Richardson fan on the planet because of
the way she's handled it. I mean, people were acting
like and I get it. I get when you know
you're getting tested. We talked about it with the NFL
combine a lot. If you know what's coming, how the
hell you get in busted? But I don't know, man,
I'm pretty I have both my parents. I don't know
how I would handle if I lost them. I know

(01:00:55):
I didn't handle losing my grandparents.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Well. Fall takes a backseat when something that heavily emotional
happens to you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
As all of us, she has become a rock star. Yeah,
but you out on the mids side. We can't even
hand off the damn baton. It's really sad.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
She was about embarrassing and men's basketball and you know,
having it come back from seventeen down at least they won.
I think it disqualify for a drop on the baton, Like,
you know, what are we talking about? There's levels of
embarrassment here. There really are in two thousand and four
and Athens we at least got the bronze, right, you know, yeah,
let's talk Let's talk about embarrassment for a second.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
That's embarrassment. What's kind of funny though, I think my
new favorite thing on the intrawebs, it definitely is on Twitter,
are the memes with some fat, out of shape guy
watching the Olympics and watching someone fall. They suck.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
Yeah, it's the old men still are from dodge at
the end of Dodgeball scene exactly the very end.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
All right, so four by one hundred meter relay an
epic failure, but basketball has not been an epic failure.
Now all come be live the Tirack dot Com studios.
I want to admit a fault here, gentlemen. I want
to admit I want to admit a mistake I made.
Now I try to be a little bit more technologically advanced.
I try to send a rundown, at least in my

(01:02:13):
version of what we want to talk about. And unlike
my partner on Sunday Nights, Arnie Spanier, who will do
Roman numerals, and he had.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Have you you've done a show with Art, I've seen
his chicken scratch with that he has written on a
you know, a leaflet that he'll streend.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Yeah, he has a yellow note pad and he uses
Roman numerals to run down what he wants to talk about.
And then when you ask him, it's like, hey, what
do you mean by this? His responses why I sent
you the text? Sent you to text like I don't know,
like like a month ago, did you see it? So
there's producer ring that struggles a little bit with my
man stinking genius. I made a mistake in my rundown

(01:02:48):
because I wanted to throw a Twitter question asked out
this hour and I'll post it here in a bit.
And the original thought, the original question was do you
agree with the way Jason Tatum has handled not playing.
It's not Jason Tatum saying anything though. I mean that's
the point that we need to step back here. Everyone
is like white nighting for Jason Tatum. I mean the

(01:03:09):
dude just won an NBA title. I don't. I don't
think he's complained out. Is he pouting a little bit?
I don't know. Maybe, but I'm not. I'm watching the game.
I'm not over analyzing Jason Tatum's mannerisms on the bench.
But I will say this boy did did a Celtics
legend fire off a few salvos yesterday because and again

(01:03:32):
this sounds terrible of me, but it was one of
those moms where like, oh my gosh, Bob Cooz, he's
still with us. I had no idea. I mean, yeah, sorry,
I'm just being honest. I'm with you. So, the ninety
six year old was interviewed by Dan Shaughnessy of the
Boston Globe, and he laid out this theory on Jason
Tatum that basically, Steve Kerr is going out of his

(01:03:54):
way to embarrass one of your players by not playing him. Quote,
this isn't just a snub. This is an embarrassment for
that poor kid. All over the bleeping world, the Olympics
have gotten that big. Everyone's going to think that there's
something wrong with this kid. Somebody from Boston should stand
up for this kid. In my judgment. This is going

(01:04:17):
out of your way to embarrass one of your players.
So well, I mean, Bostonians love you guys, right, and
Bob Coosey's a legend, so I'll never say anything negative
about him. But I mean, first of all, Jason Tatum's
not a kid. I mean to a ninety six year old,
he might be, but really, and then number two, he

(01:04:40):
started him in the game after he didn't play him
correct And Jason Tatum hasn't really been playing all that
well either for Team USA. Everyone's what about Jason Tatum. Well,
he's not doing what Kevin Duran is doing. He's not
doing what Lebron is doing, and that's the position he's
gonna play. You gotta take Lebron out of there. No,
why do we feel need to be losing our minds

(01:05:03):
over minutes for Jason Tatum.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Maybe it's an immediacy bias because he just won the
NBA Finals by the way, did not win Finals MVP
for those who might forget that, Jaylen Brown did that.
But look, and the only thing Tatum said I think
was right around the end of the exhibition schedule going in.
Maybe it was after their first victory in pool play.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Or he was.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
Someone asked him why he wasn't playing or how he
felt about not playing, and he was the worst thing
he said was I don't know, you know, I just
you know, multiple time All Star, just won the NBA Finals,
signed a big time contract, but I guess it's not
in the cars for me to play right now. I'm paraphrasing,
but that's exactly what he said. We paraphrase it perfect, Yeah,
which is fine. The guy's a competitor, he wants to play.
But he hasn't caused any disruption to your point, Chris,

(01:05:45):
he hasn't come out and said anything. Everybody's just out
here caping up for him and feeling sorry and playing
the smallest violin.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Jason Tatum is fine. If they end up winning, he's.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Gonna get a gold medal like everybody else, Nobody Fifteen
years from now, I was gonna pull up the box
score or the averages and say, damn, Jayson Tatum really
didn't play all that well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
Do he deserve a gold medal?

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
Is his gold medal worth a lot less than Lebron
James because Lebron played twenty minutes a night and Jason
Tatum barely Nobody cares. Larry Bird barely played for the
Dream Team. People don't even remember Larry Bird could barely walk. Yeah,
when that happened. He has such a terrible back injury
at that point in time, he barely even played.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
He played garbage minutes. But when you talk.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
About the Dream Team, it was Burn and it was Magic,
and it was Magic was older too, by the way,
and that took the entire year off from the NBA
because he was dealing with the HIV news. But all
these things get lost in context. A longer and longer
time goes by, you just get it gets all thrown
in into Malcolm. So nobody is gonna care fifteen twenty
years from now if Jason Tatum doesn't end up having

(01:06:44):
a major impact in these Olympics, all they're gonna say
is he wanted gold medal.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
What I just want to put a rap on the
Bob Cusey quote from Dan shawn Cy's Boston Globe article.
Tatum is on the cover of Sports Illustrated this month.
Any experts that I've read lately have chose him in
the top five and sometimes number one in the bleeping world.
Now Kerr is telling the world that he doesn't agree
in a forty minute game if you can't find five

(01:07:09):
minutes to play somebody on the team without hurting yourself.
When Kerr did it last week, he was in no
danger of losing the game. But in this case, they
got down seventeen points and he's got to worry about
losing the game and then to not let Tatum get
off the bench. To me, there's got to be some
kind of bias that he's got against the Celtics. He's
not alone there now again, Bob Coozy or anyone else

(01:07:33):
who's white nighting here for Jason Tatum and trying to
come up with some sort of Celtics bias. I do
want to remind everyone that Jason, Drew, Holliday and Derek
White both played for the Celtics and they're averaging about
nineteen and sixteen minutes per game.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
Drew is starting every single game they've played. He has
started every single one. Oh my gosh, I.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Don't Jason Tatum maybe his game just you know, there's
certain guys, and I know we're running lay, we'll get
the update. There's certain guys that just in the international game,
it clicks. Kevin Durant Carmelo Anthony, Right, it's just always
clicked for them. And maybe first of all, Tam hasn't
played all that well and you're just gonna go with

(01:08:17):
guys that are that it's working. You also have a
shorter game which needs to be factor into this. But
stop it. I mean there's roles that you play too
like people.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
That's the argument about Derek White is like, well, why
would Derek White play and not Jason Tatum.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Well, Derek White doesn't need the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
Jason Tatum generally speaking, is an ISO guy or it
works best when he has the ball in his hands,
and tim Usa has a bunch of guys who operate
best with the ball in their hands.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
You need an off ball guy.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
That's why it makes a lot more sense to have
someone like Derek White in there with certain units.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
It's not rocket science. You're treating Jason Tatum unfairly. You
hate the Celtic Steve Kerr. Meanwhile, Derek, Derek White and
Drew Holliday are playing incredible minutes. Hold out, mister Cooozie.
But I appreciate you standing up for that poor kid.
Jason Tatum, Yes, Wallas, he enjoys it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
Yeah, what was he in his three hundred million dollar
contract and in an NBA championship ring.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Yes, when we come back to the tyrack dot Com Studios,
we got a big NFL day on hand. We'll preview
it next, but first, k Figs got everything that's trended.
What's going on, Kevin Figures?

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
All right, Well, we'll go to the Baseball Diamond from
Friday night. With a Dodger snapping a two game losing streak.
They defeat the Pirates nine to five. Jack Flaherty getting
the victory. He struck out ten. It was his Dodgers'
home debut, Shohel Tani hitting his thirty fifth home run
leading the National League. There, Seattle's shutting out the Mets,
Houston defeating Boston, so the Astros with the half game
lead over the Mariners in the American League West. The

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Rangers Yankee game was rained out. Baltimore got a victory
over Tampa Bay, so Baltimore has a half game lead
over the Yanks for top billing. In the American League East.
It was the Cardinals eight and the Royals five. Milwaukee,
San Diego and the Twins with victories. The Twins with
two wins. Actually they swept a double head over Cleveland.
Guardians have lost seven straight games. In the NFL preseason action,
CJ Strout with a touchdown pass to tang Dell in

(01:10:07):
limited action, but the Texans did defeat Pittsburgh justin fields,
by the way, getting the start sixty seven yards. Passing,
did fumble a couple of times and was sacked twice
as well. Olympic events of note today include US women's soccer.
They will take on Brazil in the gold medal match
today at eleven am Eastern. The US men's basketball team,
as we were just discussing, we'll take on France and
the gold medal matchup at three point thirty eastern.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Back to the Fellas. I guess maybe my bottom line
here in the Jason Tatum situation is, to me, it's
a big nothing burger, you know, when you have that
many all stars, Unfortunately someone's not gonna play. Yeah, And
I just don't I don't think there is some agenda
from Steve Kerr. I don't think he hates the Celtics.

(01:10:49):
I think they want to win.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
I remember the redem team in two thousand and eight
and how deep that team was and all the great players. Yeah,
like Michael Rhan, who at that point in time was
probably does the best shooter in the NBA, if not
one of the best shooters in the NBA, could not
get off the bench, barely played in the Olympics, and
this guy was averaging twenty six twenty seven points a
night in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Is anybody complaining about that? No? No, I mean you
have a roster that deep in, that talented.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
Somebody has to not play, like everybody's not gonna be
able to play every single night.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
I do, though, appreciate Bob Coosey's rant that he was
on the cover of Sports Illustrate. It still matters to him.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I thought Sports Illustrator went
out of busess. I didn't realize they was still making publications.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
I took my daughter to a bookstore the other day
and on the they still have the periodical section where
they have some newspapers you can buy, and they have
all of the magazines, and I noticed that Gail King
was on the cover the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Matt which
which I'm a little bit shook by. But yeah, okay, gee,
I'm I'm forty nine. Now. I stopped caring about the

(01:11:51):
swimsuit issued about nineteen. I was gonna say, you're at
twenty years old. Yeah right, I'm not twenty anymore. But
I love whenever an old school person like mister Cooozy,
Bob Coosey, whenever he's diving into his frustrations, he's like
and he was just he was just written about in
the newspaper. They wrote an article about him in the newspaper.

(01:12:12):
He was on the cover of Sports Illustrated. It's like,
call down, Bob, It's gonna be okay, man. Today we
have a boatload of NFL games, and I could go
through each game, and we're going to as the day progresses.
But for the sake of time in this segment, let
me give you the two early starts. I had a

(01:12:32):
friend that used to call early games the Wake and
Bake Special. Don't know what that means. Don't know what
that means, Jay Sean, teach me. But at car it's
Shikari codright noon Eastern eleven am Central, nine am Pacific.
Love it this morning. You get the Commanders and the Jets.
Aaron Rodgers isn't gonna play, but Jane Daniels is in

(01:12:56):
count me among those who's intrigued. You know, I try
not to get too carried away with the practice reports
and the preseason buzz and this guy standing out, I
try not to. I do and I try not to.
Buzz seems to be pretty good around the LSU Heisman
Trophy winning quarterback in Jane Daniels. And I gotta be
honest with you, Kfig. Yes, I love the idea of

(01:13:18):
seeing Terry McLaurin go up against Sauce Gardner, But are
either one of them gonna play? Course? Yes, I love
to think about. You know what this new look Washington
team is gonna look like under Dan Quinn and its defense,
But it's gonna be dialed back. But I'm excited to
see what Jane Daniels looks like. I'm intrigued. This is
to me one of the all time greatest improvements for

(01:13:39):
a player in college football history. When he left Arizona State.
When he decided to transfer to LSU, there were dudes,
I don't want to say stealing them. I've been taking
things from his locker and on video saying this guy
sucks anyway, and he was terrible when he was at
Arizona State. He goes to LSU and wins a Heisman Trophy,
the wildest thing. Yeah, and then he ends up as

(01:14:01):
the second pick in the draft. So I love that storyline.
And then in the other early game, I mean, listen,
low hanging fruit here, we get to see Caleb Williams.
That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
You get to see the first overall pick in action,
something we wanted to see last week.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
So I'm looking forward to that. Andy. Granted, like, how
much are they going to show who is going to
play against?

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
He's going to play against a lot of the ones,
most likely not, but it's just the excitement and the
intrigue to be able to see. We've been hearing all
the great things about camp and I'll great these guys. Look,
even if it's going to be against regular shale crazy
you know, not crazy defenses, you at to very least
get to see them in an NFL uniform on an
NFL field, playing against pseudo NFL talents, right, and see

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what these guys have made.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
Of a little bit. When we come back to the
tyrack dot com studios, we'll hit storylines for the rest
of the games. Would you get a chance to see
the one and two picks in the draft while having
breakfast on the West Coast. He love how cool is
This is why West Coast football is the best. It's
Kevin Figures. I'm Chris playing. It's the fellas. I'm Fox
Sports Radio. All right, we're rolling on Saturday morning from

(01:15:01):
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believe so. Unfortunately, I'm watching the Bronze Metal match right now.
In handball, I just it's Denmark and Sweden. I just

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saw the worst penalty shot attempt that I've ever seen
in my life, and I don't know anything about the
rules of handball. I tweeted this the other day. I
was watching I think it was France play and everyone
was losing their mind about it's. Oh, this is amazing.
I'm like, this is the dumbest thing I've ever watched
in my life. You're not entertained by the handball. I
think that's incredible. Oh now, I will say, you get
down to the final minutes and I'm like, oh, this

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is cool. But then I'm like, don't I don't know
what what means? What like are they not allowed to
go into that painted area? Can they only throw it
from behind the line?

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
What are what are the rules here? And what's the
strategy and why do we suck at it? Have we
even been to the Olympics and handball? It seems I
could be a sport kind of like curling that a
bunch of nerds would get together and be really good.
Oh no, let's Canadians. Are you say that now? Sorry?
Sorry friends up North Gemta. You know, I forgot one
storyline that I've intrigued by with the Bears today. Okay,

(01:17:00):
I think rom Doonsay is going to be a stud.
I agree, I think he's going to be a stud.
And maybe it was a hot take.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
I was one of the few who said, you know what,
maybe I would consider it taking over Marvin Harrison.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
There's a stat that PFF tracks they call explosive reception.
You know we're talking college football versus the NFL. Sure,
but he had forty eight explosive receptions in twenty twenty three.
So count me is is someone intrigued by Roe Madoon say?
And then you know, k fake. I'm kind of proud
of myself. Through two hours, I've only had the Aid

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and O'Connell vy Gardner Minshew conversation once for two seconds.
It's like dominated my mind, Like what the hell is
going on here fire Tom to LESCo. But you do
have two teams that are of the what four or
five NFL teams that are in the midst of quarterback
battle right now squaring off right and from everything that
I've seen, all four are going to play Minshew and

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O'Connell and O'Connor are going to play for the Raiders,
and JJ McCarthy and Sam darneld are going to play
for the Vikings. Donald's going to get the start now.
Both teams obviously are they're not going to see Justin
Jefferson and DeVante Adams isn't even with the Raiders right
now as he waits the birth of his child. But
I think it's one of the sexier matchups today, not

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because I think either team necessarily is going to go
out and win their division or anything of that nature,
even though I think the Raiders are going to win
the Super Bowl every year. At this time, I truly
I think these are fun quarterback battles right now, and
it doesn't seem like anyone's taking the upper hand in
these battles. And that's the thing, because there's actually meaning.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
You try to find a sliver of meaning out a
preseason wherever you can, and ninety nine times out of
one hundred you can't. But sometimes every now and then
you have these really serious camp battles with and look,
we talk about the Raiders not going anywhere like that
defense I think can be excellent this year. I don't
think they can be a top five defense. If they
can just get anything out of their offense, just be
middle of the pack, why can't they compete for a

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wildcard spot. So the quarterback competition there is important. I look,
I think Minnesota as well. I think they have a
good coaching staff. I think they have a good roster.
They have to figure out the quarterback situation. So I
do think these are two really intriguing teams that can
have really good seasons. But it's gonna hange greatly on
who the quarterback is and how well that quarterback plays.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
So I think there's a lot of importance.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
In this, in this preseason game and in this preseason
in general, for both of these franchises.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
I think there's also a deeper conversation to be had
about the relevance of the preseason because it we'll get
you a little bit later, but I just there's moments
where I'm watching and I'm in and he's like, okay,
all right, this is good. I'm watching CJ. Stroud run
the Texans offense. There's Tank Dell with a wild offseason,

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right that, right, it's intriguing. And then there's moments where
I watch, like what Carolina did in that game, You're like,
just like, why am I here? Why am I watching that?
I'd rather be watching handball. Yes, I would rather be
sitting here watching Sweden and Denmark and the bronze match,
trying to figure out the rules of this sport. I
just I guess to each their own. Yeah, but the

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NFL's they got a decision to make, you know, are
we going all in on this and sticking with three
or we're gonna go down to two preseason games? Because
to me, kay fake, I only only got a mint
in the hour. But to me, it just seems like
there is there's no universal approach anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
To the preseason No, and it has become trendy over
the last you know, few years where people just don't
play a lot of franchises don't play their starters. You
have a couple of anomalies like the Chiefs you know
here and there but generally speaking, you know, they get
all their work done with these these teams scrimmages, So
why not do away with the majority of the preseason,
have these sponsored teams scrimmages to televise those and sell

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concessions and do it do it that way.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
I will say, though, maybe the biggest story in the
preseason today that I haven't talked about, and we'll get
to a little bit later on. We're gonna see Joe
Burrow back's right eminem hair and all, and they play
the Buccaneers nights right at seven eastern, six o'clock Central,
as Joe Burrow makes his return from an injury that
cost him the latter half of the season. College football

(01:20:58):
NonStop for the next thirty minut it's when we come
back on Fox Sports Radio. Stick around.

Speaker 10 (01:21:04):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Oh dude, let's go.
Let's go on a Saturday morning. You kidding me? We
got live teen handball going on for the bronze medal.
We had a bronze just hitted out to Serbia. As
you heard from Kfig on the update.

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
We've got the number one and number two pick in
the NFL draft playing in hours. Well, maybe I'm getting
a little bit melodramatic here, and Kevin figures I know
it's near and dear to your heart and to mine.
College football fifteen days away. That's right, we zeros on

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Do do the week zero games do anything for you?

(01:22:07):
I'd have intrigued by Florida State Georgia Tech just because
a it's a conference game and and it's kind of
a cool setting last year for Notre Dame and Navy.

Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
Yeah yeah, out there in Dublin, I do want to
see what Florida State looks like after, you know, coming
off of the end of the controversial ending of last
season and how they were snubbed out of the College
football playoff and no more Jordan Travis, you got the
transfer quarterback back in there dju.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
There's some storylines going on long so come on, what
give it a shot? What young La? I can say it.
I just was not.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
I can say it, Chris, I just choose not to.
He's a local kid. Give from La.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
Oh yeah, can I tell you what I what I
struggle with? Uh? Nico? IAmA Java. That's going to be
a problem for me this year. That's the new Tennessee quarterback.
Five five star quarterback, believed to be the first seven
figure n I L deal for a quarterback and one
of the top volleyball recruits in the country. Was he Yeah,

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so listen. I don't know if anyone in ball nation
to figure this out yet, but if he is, if
you're playing beach volleyball and Nico's available, I draft him.
I'm just saying all I'd pick him on my team.

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
Yes, as we're playing for gold and women's beach volleyball
right now at the moment, By the way, are we
really we are Brazil and Canada?

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Okay, bronze medal and team handball in that thrilling matchup?
Looks like what Denmark got it done? Looks like it? Yes?
All right, congratulations? Anyway, I want to spend some time
on college football. Yes, because twofold. All right, I mentioned
the week zero matchup, and if you haven't, who know,
if you haven't taken an opportunity to look at it yet,

(01:23:44):
I'll just go ahead and take care of the puke
for you because you get Florida State and you get
Georgia Tech, and we'll see how good Georgia Tech is.
But after that, what SMU at Nevada? Yeah, Delaware State,
how are you doing anything for anyone? It's kind of
a gross August twenty fourth, I mean, let's just be honest.

Speaker 3 (01:24:06):
About it, right, Yes, but it's meaningful football, which we
would not have had since, you know, the final game
of the season, the College Football Playoff. People who look
And I got into this debate last week with Fits
and Anthony because oh my god, football is back, and
so as the Hall of Fame game was this, and
then it was like, it's really hard for me to
get fired up about preseason football.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
It really really is.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
These at least are games of meaning. You mentioned Florida
State and Georgia Tech. As a conference game, it's going
to actually have some bearing on how the season may
or may not go.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
They count in the standings.

Speaker 3 (01:24:37):
I'm all for meaningful football, even if it might not
be the most marque the biggest marque matchups.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
You know, by the way, I'm a moron because I
was doing all my notes last night for the show today.
I'm like, all right, we got to get into the
get into this. Oh yeah, because I'm a big countdown guy.
So I'm like, fifteen days away to the start of
the college and then you realize, oh, wait a minute,
the calendar. We're fourteen days away. Can chop a day
themselves a day. Let's go gave ourselves sorry about that

(01:25:03):
big time miss on my part. Here's two things on this, Okay,
beyond the matchups, does Week zero need to have a
bigger slight? Do you need to put better games or
at least have a concerted effort. Now credit the Big ten, right,
they've put a couple of conference games early and that's
been fun. But I'm one of those big are we

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doing it or are we not? Because if we're doing it,
I would love to see some massive matchups in that
first weekend. Right, Maybe you take and add another kickoff game,
Maybe you take an add a kickoff classic. I guess
I should say, maybe you add a conference game that early.
You know, the Big twelve is constantly trying to find
windows to showcase its league. Now, you mean your mark's

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been very open about it. Why not just say, all right,
let's dominate week zero. Let's put some massive games there.
Coaches would love it because they get to start practice earlier.
And by the way, we see what you're doing. And
everyone's like, well, no, no, no, no, no, it's not week zero.
It's technically week one. All right, So Florida State and
Georgia Decker playing two Week one games, Okay, sure it's

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week zero?

Speaker 6 (01:26:10):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
Does it need to be more emphasized? I talk about this.
I feel like every single year does it need to
be blown up more? It's a big deal in high
school football? Does college football? Does the SEC? Does the
Big Ten? Do they have to look at trying to
make week zero more attractive for its TV partners and
more attractive for fans? Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
And you know one thing they can do, and I
guess if you had a bigger slate, technically it would
turn into Week one and not Week zero. But what
I would like to see in this situation is kind
of like a lot of cross divisional or cross conference matchups,
because now that we have a twelve team playoff in
early season, loss to to a non conference opponent is
not going to be as detrimental to your success moving

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forward as it was back in the day. So teams
that were I don't want, if you use the word
scared reluctant to play out of conference games for fear that,
you know, a bad quote unquote bad loss to say
Boise State back in the day will completely knock me
out of the playoff picture. That might not necessarily be
the case now nowadays. And so what it would do,
it would give us better matchups, you know. So that's

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the one thing that I'm looking for in college football.
I'm tired of all the cupcake matchups. The SEC does it,
and every school to a certain degree. I don't want
to just single out the SEC. The SEC does it
late in the year, sure, which has been my big
issue with them. Everybody has cupcakes at the beginning of
the schedule. What I would like to see is more competitive,
a concerted effort for more competitive, more intriguing games at
the front end of the schedule, and maybe a lot

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of them can be neutral side games and where the
schools can make some money off of it, and they
can get some travel going on, So there's something in
it for everybody. But you know, having you know, Hawaii
take on Delaware State as excited as I am for a.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
Quote unquote meaningful game and not really doing a whole
lot for me. Yeah, I loved what you said about
the cross divisional games, you know, and the big ten.
I think what you guys are at nine Now, we
the Royal, we the sac We'll get to nine. I
think they're going to get to nine eventually. And if

(01:28:05):
i'm I guess this boils down to, all right, what
do you want to try to do? What do you
want to try to own? And college football infamously one
year hired a bunch of celebrities and I guess this
was through the Playoff Committee and the TV partners, and
I thought, hey, got do it on New Year's Eve, right,
And they had a big push with Jimmy Kimmel and
all the commercials and it kind of flopped. Now, in fairness,

(01:28:29):
you fast forward three four years later. May. Five years later,
you had one of the greatest semi final games we've
ever had with Ohio State and Georgia. That was on
New Year's Eve. But the initial effort flopped, right, It
was just it didn't work. Like they they were playing
playoff games in the middle of the afternoon. Right to me,
that was a TV partner saying, hey, yeah, let's do
this here, and unfortunately it just didn't work. Fast forward,

(01:28:51):
What now is that new thing you're going to try
to do. Is it going to be making Week zero
bigger deal? Is it going to be trying to intensify
those late season matchups? Because and I'm going around here,
so I'll try to chill myself out a little bit,
kfing rain me back in if necessary. Okay, these TV
networks ESPN, ABC, Fox, CBS, NBC, they're all invested in

(01:29:13):
college football. Do you know what they want more than
anything else, simple term bangers. They want the biggest, best
matchups and what an opportunity, say at the start of
the season, cross divisional game week zero. I'm speaking from
what I know Georgia, Oklahoma, Saturday night primetime in Athens

(01:29:37):
or in Norman. It's an SEC rival there or an
SEC matchup that's never been played. You know these cross
division I'll just I say cross divisional doesn't exist. But
you brought up heys, Well, see Ohio State. You know,
those would be matchups that might not be in the
three to four regularly scheduled teams they're going to get.

(01:29:58):
So I'm I would love an idea like that. Man,
I would have loved something like that. Again, knowing divisions
aren't a thing anymore, but what would have been those matchups?
Because if I understand the scheduling philosophy that the SEC
might go with, you're gonna have three teams that you
play every single year and then the rest of the
teams are going to rotate. I think it's what every

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two years, every four years. So to me, I'm just
I think there's a pretty good schedule model out there.
How about I just wonder how they're gonna shift it up,
how they're going to try to make it even a
bigger deal for the networks.

Speaker 3 (01:30:31):
Well, you know, now we have these boll tie ins
like the third place pack twelve team which doesn't exist anymore,
faces the third place Mountain what whatever, Why couldn't you
do some sort of system like that with college football
to stay to kick off the season the SEC and.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
The base revenue.

Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
Okay, I'll give you colleague Rick new gaisl credit for
this theory, Yes, because.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
Okay, you got to explain this to me like I'm
a five year old. Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:30:55):
So he basically says, you take the college basketball model
that the early season college basketball, they'd have the member,
they'd have like the Big ten SEC Challenge, right, and
you'd have all these deres. So say the previous year,
whoever finished sixth in the SEC would play whoever finished
sixth in the ACC, and they would square off in
the regular season early on that next season. Why couldn't

(01:31:18):
you have it set up that way to say, the
Big Ten and the Big twelve and then the SEC
and the ACC signed some sort of eight year packed
or something, and the week one of every single year
based on wherever you finished in the standings in your
particular conference. And this is also assuming that the conferences
are aligned with the same amount of teams, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
Why can't you.

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
Just have eight plays eight, three plays three, one plays
one and just do it on a year a rotational basis,
year in and year out.

Speaker 2 (01:31:45):
Now start you're gonna get some bowl games, right, isn't
that kind of the point of it all? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:31:49):
Basically, Yeah, Basically, the year starts with a bowl game.
That's that's what the theory is. And it's in most
simplistic terms, Chris, Yeah, you're starting the season with a
bowl game.

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
Do you know what's funny? I know coach new Heischel
probably isn't listening, but I love the man, I hope,
so I love it. I've listened to him a lot,
and I've heard him bring that theory up, and I've
and I've tried to have it like sync in and
I'm like, what too many moving parts too. But just
sitting here this morning, maybe I got the mix right.

(01:32:19):
Maybe it's because I just had my protein bar. Maybe
it's because I've got a couple of SIPs of my
second cup of coffee. It really registered and I it hit.
I don't know. I don't know if you can get
to that point, but could you imagine, Like, let's just
I've got the college football standings from last year sitting
right here in front of me, all right, could you
imagine and you could choose, you could split them up

(01:32:39):
right some week zero, some week one. Sure though everything
is week zero right now. So let's say you go
back to twenty twenty three and the team that won
the Big Twelve championship because we're going to go I
guess that doesn't work.

Speaker 3 (01:32:52):
Whoever won the championship game versus whoever finished forces in
the standings it was different.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
Yeah, let's take Oklahoma State then, Okay, so you would
have an opening week in matchup now to Oklahoma State
playing Ohio State. I mean that's awesome, look at that, right, agree?
Would that be? See Texas? Texas is already playing Michigan,
so that's pretty damn cool. But I mean you would
have that, and you're just we're just theorizing it between

(01:33:17):
I guess you would say the lesser not respected, but
the less powerful conferences. Right, So the power the Big
ten of the SEC would play the members of the
ACC or the Big twelve. So that would be and
you could cross it up however you want. Sure, I'm
here for it, right, And then you get a gauge
early in the season as to where they are and
if you do lose, it doesn't hurt you.

Speaker 3 (01:33:38):
And if you know, Heaven and Earth were shaken to
its core and Heaven forbid, Alabama found some way to.

Speaker 2 (01:33:44):
Lose to Purdue whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:33:46):
Oh, all right, if they win thirteen straight games to
end the season, are they not going to go to
the playoff.

Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
Oh, absolutely, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:33:52):
So it doesn't So these losses, these non conference losses
to teams that you quote unquote shouldn't lose to, are
not going to hurt you the way they used to
hurt you in the previous system, So why not play them?

Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
Minority? Inside TV talk? Now moving on because we did
get the Top twenty five this week, So conference realignment,
playoff participation debates and how they're going to go about it.
Be damned. We have games coming up in fourteen days
and we've got a top twenty five to digest with
Kevin Figures. I'm Chris Plank sitting in for the fellas.

(01:34:26):
It's Fox Sports Radio. And when and when the new
AP Top twenty five poll comes out tomorrow? Oh, Today's Saturday,
So it used to being on Sunday. Comes out on Monday.
I mean, k We're gonna have both polls out and
I and I'm fascinated to see how it differentiates from
what we got in the preseason college pole from the coaches.

(01:34:48):
I'm fascinated to see how it differs because will the
press have the same respect that the coaches did for
keeping Alabama in the top five. Is Michigan. I mean
Michigan bing eight was one right to me in the
preseason poll. Well, Virginia Tech still be unranked, Well, they'll
be that same amount of love. I think there is
what five big twelve teams that are that are ranked.

(01:35:09):
I think it's it's here, and it's gonna be interesting
to see what the ap pole looks like. But I
can't help but wonder how much it's gonna truly divert
from the coach's pool. You think we're gonna see something similar.
I feel like usually it's fairly similar.

Speaker 3 (01:35:23):
You might get a little bit of a shake up
towards the bottom of the standings, But yeah, I think
it's it's usually it kind of follows suit. Which is
interesting because the coaches poll, we know how this works.
Most of the time. It's not even the coaches, although
ones who are voting for these, so it's not a
true gauge of what the coaches actually think. It's somebody
in the athletic department. I kind of feel like, at
least early in the season, I trust the AP pole

(01:35:44):
a little bit more and their gauge and their thought
process more than the Coach's Poll.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
You know, what's what's fascinating is how it is all
reputation and it isn't truly I think the coaches that
sit down and really hash it out, but it is.
It is fascinating me and Bama fans don't take this
as a knock mad at me on Twitter yesterday, but
the greatest coach that's ever coached in college football maybe

(01:36:09):
in my mind, Nick Saban is the greatest. He left, yep.
And they didn't bring up like his defensive You know,
in a lot of these situations when when a great
moves on or retires, there's an assistant there that's elevated
to take over the role, and sometimes it works and
a lot of times it doesn't. But there wasn't that
at Alabama. K fig. No, they went outside the family.

(01:36:31):
They brought in Kaylin to board, whom I don't even
know if he's coached in the South. He's been a
West Coast dude, ye for a lot of his career.
Pacific Northwest. Yeah. Yeah, And yet they and I think
it's been overblown. Alabama did not have a mass exodus
in the transfer portal. They lost some dudes, but again

(01:36:53):
they've gotten one of them back in Kadan Proctor, who's
their starting left tackle and a potential first round pick.
And they've got some dudes, I mean Nick Saban's recruitsed
it and all decommit and go somewhere else. Yeah, he
stuck around.

Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
You still have Jalen Milroe, who turned the foreigner RESI
passer last year and who by the way, is working
with one of the great quarterback gurus right now. And
Kaylin Debor, whose quarterback just started a game last night
in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:37:15):
I saw an incredible stat speaking of Jalen Milroe as
far as teams, this being one of the few times
where the top ten and the Heisman valloting top ten
in the Heisman voting that only two of them return
in twenty twenty four, and one of them is Jaylen Milroe, who,
by the way, I had on my ballot last year.

(01:37:37):
So all of that to say, it's pretty amazing. I
think it says a lot about where that program is
that they would still be number five in the coaches Well,
it's incredible, Yeah, it really is. I wasn't surprised by
Georgia one, Ohio's date two. Oregon and Texas are going
to be interesting studies this year. At three and four.

(01:37:58):
Oregon brought in Dylan Gabriel will be their starting quarterback
by mid season.

Speaker 3 (01:38:02):
Texas lost a lot well, they lost their starting tailback
to an injury this week too.

Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
CJ, Bax are just huge rushing news. And so those
are the four top four and then there's Bam. It's
just wild to me, all right, most overrated in your
opinion when we come back, so think about it. Most
over ranked team, I should say whenever the Coach's poll
came out this past week, and then I got some
thoughts on what it's going to look like on Monday
when the eight People comes out. But when we come

(01:38:30):
back to the tyrack dot com studios, we also have
to carve out some time for what's going on in Colorado.
I coach Prime, I'm a fan. I want to see
him have success, but he is writing a handbook how
to do things the wrong way. At least it appears
we'll get into that next on Fox Sports Radio. I

(01:38:51):
was laughing during the break because the Irish Raiders on
Twitter hit it on the head. You can follow the
show on at least for their Saturday and and Jason
are out so that is Kevin Figures. I'm Chris Plank
running the show. Is Ian Roddy Mark's keeping us on
the rails. Well, the Irish Raider rights. I'm going to

(01:39:13):
appreciate a week zero because that means the kids are
back in school. The football is just a glorious bonus.
So you just have your son now, who's three months old? Yep? Right? Five?
Oh what am I saying? A ten and a fifteen
year old and Irish Raider bro I can't wait to

(01:39:34):
get a reprieve from them. I love them. I don't
want them to ever go anywhere, but I also want
them gone for a little bit. Here's the thing about kids.
They don't go anywhere. They're always around. It's like the
one stuff from you all the time. It's terrible, doesn't
have somewhere to be. It's summer. My ten year old
is like, Dad, what are we doing today? I'm like,

(01:39:54):
we what are you talking about? Man?

Speaker 3 (01:39:58):
It's like the old Staples commercial back in the day
where they say it's the most wonderful time of the
year and the adult is like, you know, dancing in
the line, you know, getting notebooks and pins, and the
kids was just standing there with a giant frown on
their face.

Speaker 2 (01:40:10):
I'm gonna tell you something, all right. I just I
think I'll be honest with the criff, because if you're
up this early, by god, you love sports and you're
probably living a life similar to mine. But we spent
so much money kfig on back to school last weekend.
We have this thing. I don't know if this is
across the board, but they had it was called a
tax free weekend, so for one weekend on school supplies

(01:40:34):
across the great state of Oklahoma, and clothing. Kids needs clothes,
Kids need clothes, no tax, That's excellent. It was amazing.
The mall was like nineteen ninety six. It was amazing.
And we spent way too much money on things that

(01:40:54):
don't even affect me. And I've never been happier in
my life. Why it's back to school, baby, Get these
Get these kids out of here now, it doesn't matter here,
take the card.

Speaker 8 (01:41:05):
Go.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
I see your Instagram posts where it's like you only
get eighteen years do your kids good? Yeah? Fine, I'm
gonna come over to their house and demand they entertain
me during the summer. Right, So, did anything really jump
out at you that you thought was over or undervalued,
over ranked or underranked in the coaches top twenty five.

Speaker 3 (01:41:25):
Nothing Crazily, I thought Florida State at ten might be
a little bit higher than I would have expected that
big on Dju, yeah, neither am I you know having
you know, we saw him at Clemson early on.

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
I saw him up close. In personal Oregon State.

Speaker 3 (01:41:39):
It was better, but certainly really really inconsistent, and they
lost a lot of especially a skill position, but players
on the offensive end, they got a lot of transfer
guys in on defense. I know there's just a lot
of question marks for me for Florida State. For me
to have them ranked in the top ten right now,
I'd probably have them closer to in the twenty twenties
ish area. To be honest with you, I don't know

(01:42:00):
if I'm as bullish on all miss as everybody else is.
That being said, I don't think they're terrible, but top
six i'd probably have them more than you know, ten
twelve ish. But generally speaking, I'm okay with the way
that the coaches shook out for the most.

Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
Part, and I was I joked about this a lot
this week. I was very impressed with how nobody lost
their minds their Virginia Tech fans. I think we're a
little bit disappointed. They built towards this year and it
seems like they've got a very solid roster and they
feel like they can compete in the ACC. So Vo
Tech fans probably deserve to be ranked. But nobody's like, oh,

(01:42:36):
it's dumbasting almost too calculated, to be honest with you,
everyone seemed to be too calm about it, like we
got to be losing our minds about this right now?
What's roll in college sports fans? And I realize no
one really knows, right, no one really knows what to
expect this season. You got new teams and new places.
The transfers is all over the place. Crazy. So I'm

(01:43:00):
gonna give you a stat real quick before we get
to the deon stuff. Actually, you know what, it's already
the bottom of the art. We'll get to the on
stuff after your update. Okay, Bo Nicks in his first
two seasons as a starting quarterback, well, let's go three
fifty seven completion percentage fifty seven percent, completion percentage fifty nine,

(01:43:21):
and then in his final year at Auburn sixty one.
So he was better. But he also threw sixteen interceptions
in those three seasons. He gets to Oregon and in
two years is a seventy five percent passer seventy four
point nine to be exact. He went from averaging six
point nine yards per pass to nine point two. I
get it, I get it. There's the offense that was

(01:43:44):
run at Oregon as opposed to Auburn. But just for
the sake of comparison, the dude's passer rating was fifty
one points higher at Oregon than it ever was at Auburn.
He was the worst quarterback I think I'd seen start
an SEC game whenever he started at Auburn. And then
by the end of his career he's a first round pick.

(01:44:05):
Michael Pennock junior battled injuries, terrible at Indiana terrible. He
goes to Washington. What happens, dude, it's a first round pick.
Jay I could go Jalen Daniels awful, and I don't
know what happened in Arizona State. Then all of a sudden,
he gets to LSU and he's a different dude. And
so I'm always hesitanting. Like my first thought when you

(01:44:25):
brought up Florida State was I'm not really sold on
dj Uyungla, right, did transfer quarterback, But then I look
back on all those dudes that I thought were not
going to be difference makers. That fast forward, they're in
the NFL and they got a chance to start their
rookie season. Pretty damn impressive. But there's one caveat here,
and I think this is why cam Ward at Miami,

(01:44:48):
dj Uengla down at Florida State, Oregon, Dylan Gabriel, Riley Leonard,
you know where I'm getting here, right, first year at
the school, starting quarterback, you know, a rental for a
season essentially. I don't think they've had as much success
as Pennix, Nicks Daniels because those weren't one year rent

(01:45:10):
Those weren't guys that came in for a season, right,
Those dudes were two years or more correct at the school.
And I don't I'm working on it. I'm trying to
work shop it a little bit. There's not the best
example of success is Jalen Hurts at Oklahoma right twenty nineteen, right, yep,
but k fake, I'm curious to see how these one
year quarterbacks coming in when college football is supposed to

(01:45:32):
be about culture and supposed to be out about locker room.
I'm fascinated to see how that plays out this season.

Speaker 3 (01:45:37):
Yeah, I am too, because it's really a giant unknown,
and especially so with so many players of this magnitude,
of this caliber going to major programs can make such
a difference. I'm really intrigued to see which one of
these transfer players ends up making the largest impact.

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
Or look, maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:45:52):
Somebody ends up being a square peg in a round
hole and it doesn't work out for them. You know,
we've seen scenarios like that work out in the past too,
so it is very intriguing.

Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
What it's interesting in all those situations that I just
brought up, Oh my gosh, I didn't even mention Ohio State.
Oh yeah, by the way, yes, But what's interesting in
all of those situations there is a young gun right
that if things go south, maybe all right, well, let's
give the young guys shot. More's out at Oregon right now,

(01:46:22):
and a lot of people are high on him after
he transferred. A lot of people are high on Ohio
State's quarterback room. Texas. Oh gosh, of course, let's we
talk about Texas. We can't forget about Arch. But I
will say if some of these guys that are one
year rentals. If they struggle a bit, it might be coolest,
or it might be interesting to see how quickly they

(01:46:44):
pull the plug if necessary, and go with the younger quarterback,
the guy that could be there for a while. All right,
Deon's making a messive things? Or is he will debate
coach Prime next Rolling on a Saturday morning in for
the fellas, I'm Chris Plank. Kevin Figures has what's trending
on a Saturday? What's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
Kate fig All right, we'll start with a baseball from
the left coast on Friday and nights. Freddie Freeman is
Choeotani both hitting home runs for the Dodgers. They defeated
the Pirates nine to five. You had Seattle shutting out
the Mets six nothing. Jock Peterson a home run for
Arizona in a three to two final. There As, they
defeated Philadelphia Colorado, handing Atlanta their six consecutive loss. Padres
won their sixth in a row. They defeated Miami in

(01:47:23):
extra innings. Baltimore with a half game lead over the
Yankees in the American League East after picking up a
four to one victory over Tampa. The Twins swept a
day night doubleheader over Cleveland. Who's leading the Al Central
is now down to a game and a half over Minnesota.
NFL preseason three games on the slate on Friday, Miami,
the Dolphins picking up a victory over the Falcons. Eighth
overall pick for Atlanta Michael Pennix Junior, who we just

(01:47:45):
mentioned a second ago. He did get the start for Atlanta,
nine of sixteen passing for one hundred and four yards
and directed a couple of scoring drives. Houston defeated the
Steelers as CJ. Stroud played a couple of possessions, did
throw one touchdown pass justin Fields in that game five
of six passing for sixty seven.

Speaker 2 (01:48:02):
Yards for Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (01:48:03):
Some Olympic events of note today include the US women's
soccer team taking on Brazil and their gold medal match.
That one will start at eleven am Eastern time. US
men's swoops team will take on France in the gold
medal match at three thirty Eastern Back to the fellas.

Speaker 2 (01:48:17):
Hey Ian is Ian in studio Still yep there? Okay, Well,
how are you feeling about USC this year? What's the
buzz i mean, we just went through a top twenty
five that has USC towards what I've heard. Yeah, how
you feeling? What's the buzz with your cause you're is
it your girlfriend that's a Texas fan too? So I
got USC and Texas?

Speaker 6 (01:48:38):
Yeah, so's she's a Texas fan. I'm I'm a USC alum.
I went there for grad.

Speaker 2 (01:48:42):
School, of course.

Speaker 6 (01:48:44):
Yeah, I they. I think when you guys are going
over the quarterbacks there, I think Miller Moss is worth
a mention.

Speaker 2 (01:48:52):
I agree, we see. Now keep in mind, keep in
mind I was bringing up the one year transfers and
see what kind of effect they can have, right. I
think he's been successful. But when you're talking about intriguing
young quarterbacks, Miller Moss fits that. After the bowl game, right.

Speaker 3 (01:49:06):
There's a holdover who's been there for a couple of
years and he had a great bowl game. He doesn't
have a large you know, sample size is the only issue,
the only thing working against them.

Speaker 6 (01:49:13):
Yeah, But I mean with Lincoln Riley, the offense is
going to be good regardless. But that's the reason that
I bring up Miller Moss is, you know, an interesting
quarterback because whoever's under center for Lincoln Riley is probably
going to be pretty good, and they should.

Speaker 3 (01:49:26):
I will say they had some offensive line issues the
last couple of years, and Caleb Williams covered up a
lot of their problems. So I know they got some
transfer guys in. They lost a couple of recruits too.
They're better on the offensive line. I just to watch,
just wonder if they're as good as they need to be,
especially going into the Big ten.

Speaker 6 (01:49:43):
It's the offensive line in the defense. And I do
know one thing about the offensive line that they're moving Monnheim,
their right tackle last year, to center, and everything I've
heard is that that's where he should have been playing
this entire time. So I'm actually really excited about that. Plus,
he's one of the smartest offensive lineman that they have,
and for that to be the guy that you have

(01:50:04):
as your center, that's where you want him obviously. And
then the defense too, Kevin is something else.

Speaker 3 (01:50:09):
That Danton Lynn, who they got from UCLA, did a
great job for them last year. They brought him over,
gave him a pretty hefty contract to come and try
to fix that USC defense after he got rid of
his buddy Alex Grinch, and I know, you know, all
these guys there, Chris, but they had to make a
change on the defensive side.

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
It just was not working.

Speaker 3 (01:50:26):
So we'll see what see what a difference danton Lynn
makes for the defensive side. They got some transfer guys
in on that side as well, and beefed up the
defensive line, so we'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:50:34):
I don't know either how much it changed, Ian, but
you know, Grinch didn't want big, three hundred plus pound
defensive tackles. He wanted dudes that could move. So I
don't know if that adjusted much when he was at USC.
I don't know if he stayed with that mindset he did,
he did not adjust, Chris. I'll tell you they still

(01:50:55):
recruited smaller guys. They wanted to be able to move around,
move fast. That's not going to work. It didn't work
number one in the BAC twelve. It's especially not going
to work for them going into the Big ten.

Speaker 6 (01:51:05):
I'm hoping now that de'anton lynn is going to be,
you know, what they were looking for on defense. And
then they also hired the guy from the Rams too.
What was it, Eric Henderson. I want to say his name.

Speaker 2 (01:51:17):
Is I believe that's his name. Yes, sir people former quarterback.

Speaker 6 (01:51:19):
Mom kidding, but he's got ties to Aaron Donald and
that's been doing a lot for Reford in sensive line.

Speaker 2 (01:51:25):
Coach.

Speaker 6 (01:51:26):
All of this pretty much to say that USC could
be really good, and I feel good about that. But
it's just until you see a lot of this actually
manifest itself on the field, it's hard to actually predict it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:36):
Well. Thankfully they get to ease their way into the
start of the regular season.

Speaker 6 (01:51:42):
Yeah, not like he got a tough matchup to begin.

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
What but if I'm going to play LSU, I want
to do it early. Sure, no doubt, I want to
do it early. They got the USC technically, I guess
here has the more experienced quarterback. No, I guess they would,
would they? Nest Meyer has been in college for eighty
a year forever. Yeah exactly. Was he a five star?
I think he was? Oh, dude, I think you're right.
I think Garrionnsmeyer was because I get his dad was

(01:52:06):
all over the coaching ranks. But yeah, he's a projected
starter for LSU. By the way, for those that don't
live this, every single second of the day, and you'll
have two essential first year starters. Yeah, a tough part
of that for SA two.

Speaker 3 (01:52:17):
Before we move off, as the fact that they just
have a brutal schedule in general. I mean, LSU, You're
at the Big House, You're taken on Penn State, You're
at Washington. I mean it's not the easiest schedule.

Speaker 2 (01:52:30):
Speaking of tough schedules, I think Colorado has a very
tough schedule. Yes, before we grab a break, what have
you made of the circus since camp started for Colorado?
Now again, you and I were talking, maybe oh Ied
and I were talking off the air. Sometimes when things
are going poorly, it's easy to pile on. I like

(01:52:52):
to make the joke for those of you in Oklahoma today,
I always like to make the joke when Spencer Rattler
and Caleb Williams were having their quarterback battle, and Spencer,
even though you was seven and ZH at the time,
Spencer Ratler wasn't playing well. It became very easy and
very popular to just hate on Spencer Rattler for the
sake of hating on him. Like I saw Spencer Rattler

(01:53:14):
on campus corner and Kevin Figures he pushed me aside.
You know, just hold that story right, to just hate
on him. So I feel like whenever you hear a
former player said with this Deon Sanders story and the
locker room is like a like a game, like a
video game. Yeah, it's just not in a good way.

(01:53:37):
I don't know how much I can put into that because,
like I said, I don't know the whole story. I
don't know if it's just popular to pile on because
you're not there, But what is kind of your vibe
that you're getting that's three big day, Travis Hun'm not
getting hit? In practice? You had Travis Hunter is a
cornerback and he's like, don't hit Travis. You're not hitting

(01:53:57):
Travis today. And then you have this mess and with
with Dion going after CBS but doing it in the
coach primest way possible. What have you made over the
Colorado Buzz are locked thereof since the start of camp?
All right, So a couple of different things.

Speaker 3 (01:54:12):
One on the anonymous players taking shots at Dion and
the kind of ship he's running. I don't think that
this is wholly uncommon, especially when a player either transfers
out or I mean, heck could be guys that he
booted off. So there's gonna there's always disgruntle players who
are gonna have unfavorable things to say about a place
that they wanted to play and for whatever reason, their
services are no longer needed. So I kind of take

(01:54:34):
that with a bit of a grain of salt.

Speaker 6 (01:54:35):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:54:36):
The Travis Hunter thing is interesting. It's definitely different, but
I understand it. This is the guy that had more
touches than anybody last year, is it more than in
the history of college football? And more snaps play than anybody? Say, Yeah,
I mean it's it's insane, and rightfully so, He's I mean,
a dynamic player on both sides of the ball. Might
be it might be a little bit over the top
to say do not touch him like he's a quarterback. Yeah,

(01:54:57):
but I certainly understand why you'd want to protect. I
hate to call him an asset, but he's an asset.
You're not if they're going to go where they think
they're going to go, they're not going to do it
without Travis Hunter.

Speaker 2 (01:55:07):
So that's one that I understand.

Speaker 3 (01:55:08):
I'm not a fan of the way that he's handling
the media and that press conference the other day that
was wholly unnecessary, taking shots at the media saying like, well,
I I'm not going to answer your questions until you
answer my questions. Like, that's not how it works, Dean
to ask you a question about the Hey, look, if
you have issues with the way that they're covering your team,
that's something that you guys can address. But for there
at the press conference, just do your job as the coach.

(01:55:31):
Answer the questions at the press conference. Talk to an
SID and see if you can set up a one
on one and see if you guys can hash out
whatever you need to hash out.

Speaker 2 (01:55:37):
But I just don't think that was the most mature
way to handle that. Yes, it's not smart. You'll hear
it next, coach. Prime was the talk of college football
last year. Oh we coming, remember everyone heard the press
conference three and OHO, then Reality kicked in a Game Day,
A Game Day, Fox Pig Nude Kick The is the

(01:56:01):
Spanish language version of those shows. Everyone was in Boulder,
Colorado last year and what week three? It was just
it was one of the most amazing scenes I've seen
in college football. And in the span of a year,
it's gone from I'm bringing Louie, I got guys at
the airport. You know, don't touch my kids. You gotta

(01:56:22):
go to my kids concert, right, wasn't that the rumor
for a while, Yeah, you better go to my kids
concert to uh, don't hit travish all of these things.
But to me, I do think I agree. The most
embarrassing thing happened this week and we'll dive into it next.
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extra five percent off. The fellas that is Kevin Figures.
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studios now. Been an interesting weeks we just talked about
for Colorado Deon Sanders in his opening press conference, he
wasn't having it. He starts by going after a CBS

(01:57:25):
reporter for reasons we still don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:57:27):
Eric Kristensen with CBS Sports Colorado.

Speaker 12 (01:57:30):
You doing sis, I'm not doing none with CBS. Next question,
I got none with you.

Speaker 1 (01:57:36):
It's above that.

Speaker 12 (01:57:37):
I got none to do with you. I got love
for you, I appreciate, respect you, and got none to
do with you.

Speaker 13 (01:57:41):
They know what they did.

Speaker 1 (01:57:42):
I'm here at Deadver, not National.

Speaker 12 (01:57:44):
You are who you are, CBS to CBS, all right, Jeff,
I respect you, and that's why I told you that
I'm looking at you and now as a man.

Speaker 2 (01:57:52):
I respect you, I got love for you. But what
they did was foule. I'm looking at you like a
man in the eyes with my sunglasses on. I guess, yeah,
my sunglasses indoors, which it's always a great look. So
that's the that's the kind of back and forth. When
viral along with this, this was the one that just
didn't make a lot of sense to me. I guess

(01:58:13):
Dion has had some problems with the way that a
certain reporter has covered his team, so during this same
press conference, he he turned the tables.

Speaker 12 (01:58:24):
I'm asking you why you can ask that that answer
because you want me to answer you.

Speaker 2 (01:58:28):
Okay, that's why that's fair. Why? Why? Because I am pressure?
Why what what what's your why? What do you want
to know?

Speaker 14 (01:58:35):
Why do you you always un attack?

Speaker 2 (01:58:37):
Like what what do we do? Where a where my
own attack? Today? Where am I own attack?

Speaker 12 (01:58:42):
I'm gonna I'm not gonna give you opportunities to be
on a tack. I'm asking you why, Like what does
it do for you?

Speaker 2 (01:58:49):
Like Bates Night so poor editing job? Sorry, Ian, that's
my bad? Like what what's he doing?

Speaker 3 (01:58:56):
I don't now someone believes that that writer or whoever
you know, did a story on his son Shiloh who
had the bankruptcy thing come up a couple of weeks ago,
And I don't know exactly what he may have written
or may have said. But again, that's something that you
can address and not in a forum like that. You know,
you can talk to an SID, you can go behind
closed doors and have that conversation if you want to

(01:59:17):
have that conversation. But I don't say I'm not going
to answer your questions until you know, we have a
conversation as I'm trying to have a conversation right now,
But you don't want to talk, like which is it?

Speaker 2 (01:59:26):
Did you did you listen to the whole thing? I
kind of I don't know Sean Keeler, but I've been
in those situations where it's like next question and you're
trying to create. You want to get a good answer,
So it's what's going coach, and and Sean Keeler is, hey, hey,
coach him, my man, how's it going? And all of
a sudden I goes it shakes his head. I'm like, oh,

(01:59:49):
where are we going here? I want the Deon Sanders
experience and experiment. I guess I should say to work
badly and I'll tell you why, because to me, it
gets more eyes on college football. Yeah, good sport. I
think there's a little bit for a lot of NFL
fans that are just NFL fans, there's a little bit
of a look down your nose at college football. But

(02:00:11):
even if you're not just tuned in for everyone I see,
I can't fathom that that's so hard to register in
my mind that there's people that like, ah, I watched
the NFL and not college I'm like, do you not
like life? I mean, take it all in, but it's
out there. It's out there. I mean, Shady Shaw's probably
ripping me up and down right now on Twitter for
all this time on second rate sports. But I got

(02:00:33):
to tell you something, Man Prime brings more eyes, there's
more buzz. His son's good. He's got maybe one of
the most electric players in the history of the game
in Travis Hunter. I just don't know if it's gonna work.
I've never seen this approach work. Never seen it work
whenever you're not winning. When you're winning, maybe he's big
of a jerkers you want you can get guys fired

(02:00:53):
for no reason. You're winning when you're not, and that's
your approach.

Speaker 3 (02:00:58):
Never seen it work and didn't get home well one
bit last year when things got off to such a
hot start, and you know, I kept on talking the
talk and doing this thing. We'll see how it plays
out this year, though I don't know if it'll be
much different.

Speaker 2 (02:01:09):
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should be, what do you what do you win to
right now? Kfig in the Olympics? Do you? I think
I have the Gold Channel on the Gold the Gold Zone,
which I love.

Speaker 3 (02:01:48):
Okay, Chris Hansen on there, just like the NFL Red Zone.

Speaker 2 (02:01:50):
It's amazing. So just I watch a lot, but I
don't listen, do we ever? I don't think I've ever
seen him on camera. Yeah, I'm up there every now
and then. Yeah, yeah, he's he's there. I just want
to make sure because it's not AI generated. He's there
because you had the big crossover. Yeah, for those of
us who knew there were two Red Zone channels back
in the day. Between him and our former co worker

(02:02:14):
Andrew Ceciliano. Correct, they were working together on the desk. Yes,
Ceciliano all believe is part of the golds on as well. Yeah,
they were there. It's like, wait a minute, worlds are
colliding Direct TV versus everybody else. Hey on a on
a sidebar? Are we are? Are we excited? I mean

(02:02:34):
when I say we, you know I'm talking about Irish
Raider Raider fan Tim and of course, Kevin Figures and
Raider fan Plank are we excited because I gotta be
honest with you guys, And I never knew this was possible.
A coach ruined my love for my team for a while,
like Josh McDaniels literally sucked my soul out as a
Raiders fan. The man kneecapped me. He took me down,

(02:02:57):
and I was out. I've never been more disgusted, sad,
and depressed. Now, granted I've there's been some family members
that I've lost, but Josh McDaniels and what he did
to me pretty high up there.

Speaker 3 (02:03:09):
And consider how bad that franchise has been for as
long as it's been. That's that tells you something right there. Oh,
I know it took him to suck my will to live.
But then ap Antonio Pierce comes along and I'm juiced.
I'm with you and I'm excited, and I you know,
I think Max Crosby is is that dude? I think

(02:03:31):
the Christian Wilkins was huge acquisition.

Speaker 2 (02:03:34):
Is slept On. I love what Malcolm Koons is developing
into their other edge rusher Divine. I could go through
that defense Divine Diablo Jack Jones looks like he's going
to be a fine to steal. Some even debated whether
or not he should be mentioned along with Max Crosby
as the head of camp. Yes. By the way, as
soon as I complain about never seeing anyone on the
on the gold zone on camera, there's Jack Coleman, Jack Collinsworth. Yeah, oh,

(02:04:00):
I guess you do see people on the gold zone.
But my point on the Raiders, I really really believe
in this defense. I think it's got the potential to
be really good. I'm fully smokes, smokes, dude. The offense
is pulling me back too quickly. Yeah, he got offensive
line issues. Calton Miller hasn't been healthy.

Speaker 3 (02:04:18):
Powers Johnson, who they drafted to be a starter, hasn't
you know, hasn't really participated in camp because he's been hurt.
And then the biggest question MARKO force is the quarterback position.
You know, would that be worse off right now if
they still had Derek Carr? No, listen, I'm a car defender.
I was for years too.

Speaker 2 (02:04:35):
What changed?

Speaker 3 (02:04:38):
It's almost never one game, but I go back to
that Christmas game in Pittsburgh and when he overthrows Hunter
andfro Andro and there are just too many moments like
that the Charger game where he threw the ball out
of the back of the end zone on fourth down.

Speaker 2 (02:04:53):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (02:04:53):
There are just too many of those plays over a
decade long that I just said. I love the guy
to death, but I just can't do it anymore.

Speaker 2 (02:05:00):
I yeah, I think they'd be infinitely better if Carr
was a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (02:05:03):
I agree, Carl's always He's one of those guys. I
think if you have enough around him, you can win
with now. Whether or not you win a championship and
we can go to the super Bowl, but you can
you can be a perennial playoff contender with him as
your quarterback if you have enough around him.

Speaker 2 (02:05:17):
I believe that, and I think the Saints have a
lot around him. I think people are sleeping on New Orleans.
I agree, by the way, I'm with you on that.
But back to my original question, are you believing? I mean,
is the offensive questions enough as a Raider fan to
make you say, don't know if I can do this?
Don't know if I can't. I can't allow myself to
get emotionally invested in this when we're not going to

(02:05:38):
be able to.

Speaker 3 (02:05:38):
Score that's my thing, that's my felt, my feeling. I
can't get to invest it. I can't get too excited
because the offensive ineptitude is real, it really is, and
I don't and I can't look. I don't hold Lugetzi,
you know, responsible fully for the Chicago situation. Anybody that
does listened to me over the years. I'm not a
fan of Justin Fields at all. So I don't think

(02:05:59):
he's starting caliber NFL quarterback.

Speaker 2 (02:06:01):
I just don't.

Speaker 3 (02:06:02):
So I do think lu Getzi was limited in what
he actually could do from a play calling standpoint through.

Speaker 2 (02:06:08):
His ten yure in Chicago.

Speaker 3 (02:06:09):
So I don't even know if their offensive issues are
fully his fault, But it's not like he has a
lot to work with in the quarterback position. Now in
Las Vegas, either got nothing, no nothing.

Speaker 2 (02:06:20):
I got so excited. It was like Raiders signed quarterback.
And at that time, there's a lot of different names
that were kind of floating around, and then I see
Gardner Minshew, and what are we doing right now? Why
wouldn't you sign Flako? Why not? Right? Why not? Or
at least take a flyer on one of these rookie
one of these draft and dressed somebody. You know, I
appreciate An O'Connell, and I think they really want him

(02:06:43):
to win the job. They're giving him every opportunity, and
guess what, he hasn't won the job, right, Yeah, So
that's a little bit concerning that. I'm I'm allowing myself
to get emotionally invested. I'm not. I'm sorry. I can't
even be cautiously optimistic. I'm pretty bad.

Speaker 3 (02:07:00):
I'm pretty pessimistic to be I am okay, okay, all
right about the offense. At the very least, you know,
I feel like we defense, I'm with you one thousand percent.
Then you wonder as good as I think they can
be on defense, at what point in time, if it's
like week six or seven, at what point in time
they kind of check out and they say, I'm tired
of this stuff, and the defense starts to suffer a

(02:07:20):
little bit because they're tired of having to pick up
the slack for the offense. We've seen situations like this happen.
I don't know if there's so good defensively. Look as
good as they are, they're not the Baltimore Ravens or
those great Buccaneer defenses where they're just gonna, you know,
shut people out and literally win games by themselves and
will themselves to the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (02:07:39):
I don't think they're that good.

Speaker 3 (02:07:41):
And because they aren't that good, and the offense, I
think can drag them down. I think Devonte starts making noise.
He might not be there by the time the trade
deadline rolls around, which probably for the honestly, for the
greater good of the franchise, is a good thing. If
you can get some assets for him, You're not winning
with him, so why not try to get some draft
picks and free up some money and do something down
the road.

Speaker 2 (02:08:00):
Don't break them up. I'm sorry, that's okay, Uh, it's
it's no big deal. Just at about let's see, what's
what's the Raiders game? Four o'clock this afternoon? Yeah, it's
just about four thirty. All have either decided that I'm
I'm the happiest man on the planet or the saddest.
There will be no in between. When it comes. I
let myself go this summer. I'm just gonna be honest
with you. I let myself go. And in the middle

(02:08:21):
of extra snacks and ice cream and no walking or exercising,
I realized buddy, you might have to stick around for
a while if you want to see your Raiders be
good again. So I've gotten back in shape, k fake.
That kind of shows you where my level of concern
that stuffed you this year. You were just getting into
football shape. That's that's where broadcasters in drunk for during
football season. That's football shape for us. All right, I

(02:08:43):
let myself go this summer. But then I was like, buddy,
first of all, you got football. Secondly, and most importantly,
I don't think this team is winning anytime soon. You
got to stay on this aret a little longer. If
the Raiders are going to be good.

Speaker 3 (02:08:54):
Now, we're doing some of that good even in the
SEC this year in your travels now.

Speaker 2 (02:08:58):
But let me tell you something. Top five most excited
I've been for anything is these trips. I'm sure, but
I'm also I want to make them so I can
understand the lay of the land and then get even
overly excited for my second trip. Right because, for instance,
as a side for those that aren't familiar with yes
with the resume, Kevin and I are college football diehards,

(02:09:20):
and I cover college football for the University of Oklahoma.
Their sideliner reporter, and so that's now as a longtime
member of the SEC, I'm kind of like SEC royalty,
of course, is what they say. I'm so excited to
go to Let's say we're going to the Grove this year,
going to Oxford, going to Auburn. That was a guy
to go to Auburn. You know, all these places that
I've never been for a football game day. But I'm

(02:09:40):
also a nervous nelly, so I want to get there
and figure everything out. Right. I don't know, no no
where I need to be, no where ney to go.
So I'll enjoy it this year, but I will truly
enjoy that second time you get to make that trip.
I saw this, speaking of practice, I had news hit
us up and writes reports going on around the Patrick
Mahomes is completing behind the back passes on goal line

(02:10:03):
in short yardage situations, in scrimmages. Perhaps a play to
spice up the Raiders game. Perhaps. I I hate that
he's so awesome. I hate that he's so good that
he's love you. I hate that he's a chief. I
mean I can handle be like a lion, right, I mean,
a buccaneer he could be, but a chief because he's

(02:10:25):
so likable and he's so good, and that's one of
the things that maybe leads to my pessimistic side for
anything in the AFC West, if it's Chargers Broncos, or
obviously for me, the Raiders. I just I don't know
if anyone still has anything for him once it comes
to the playoffs. No, they don't.

Speaker 3 (02:10:43):
No one's figured it out and think they're going to Yeah.
I mean, let's see, it's hurt what she Obviously you
don't want to happen. I will even think I banged
up in that playoff game, but I think against Jacksonville
a couple of years ago, and that still didn't slow
him down.

Speaker 2 (02:10:56):
He came back in was it Chief came in Cleveland?
Was it Cleveland? Okay?

Speaker 3 (02:11:01):
Yeah, and jays Daniel came in and got him to
like a I think a field goal drive or something,
and pat came right back in the game after halftime
and they were totally fine.

Speaker 2 (02:11:07):
Yeah. This guy's invincible. This guy's incredible.

Speaker 3 (02:11:10):
The only way he was beating in the postseason once
was because D four lined up all sides against the
Patriots and that cost him that game.

Speaker 2 (02:11:16):
In credible And then.

Speaker 3 (02:11:16):
The second time because he was on his the nights
in tenth string offensive tackles and literally had the entire
Buccaneer defensive line in his lap as soon as he
got the ball. Outside of that, this guy's been flawless
in the postseason.

Speaker 2 (02:11:27):
Yeah, amazing, absolutely amazing. All for not all right company
A lot from the tyreck dot com studios. I want
to talk Olympics here before we dive into the best
of the week now oops today. Earlier in the program,
right off the top, we were debating the importance of this,
How important is this for Team USA? One important move
has already been made. Kevin Durant is entering the starting

(02:11:49):
lineup for Team USA today and they get to take
on Victor wimbin Yama, Rudy Gobert, who's really is he
playing that much? Have no idea what happened with Rudy
Gobert with the French team. Yeah, he's just not playing
all that mung two minutes or something in the semi final,
I believe. But I'm excited for this man. I think
it's gonna be a fun. And also, whenever the men's
basketball finals take place, and I feel like this is

(02:12:10):
similar timing, I always feel like it's near the end
of the Olympics. Correct, So what has been And I
think you and I are in the same boat in this, Kevin,
A two week obsession that was unexpected. I did not
expect to be this in on the Olympics as we
were leading up to it. The timing has worked great
for my schedule. Yeah, the primetime show is if I

(02:12:31):
missed anything, I've got that it's Snoop, snoopop. Yeah, and
Snoop takes me through the day and I'm like, I
understand it. It makes a lot of sense to me
right now. I didn't expect to be this in, so
I'm not like celebrating to get the Olympics off my TV.
But it's also kind of one of those moments where
you look back and you say, am I in on this?
Was I in on this? Has this been memorable? Has

(02:12:53):
this been amazing? Has it just been a void filler?
Because I tend to think the prior not the ladder.
I feel like there's been some just incredible fun Yeah,
and some incredible moments. I've been all in much more
than I ever could have imagined. And I was dumping
all over it leading up to the Olympics. I was wrong,
as was I.

Speaker 3 (02:13:12):
We are on our local show where we're talking about
has it lost its luster?

Speaker 2 (02:13:15):
Does anybody really care anymore?

Speaker 3 (02:13:18):
And from day one, after the opening ceremony, when the
first event started, I've been locked in.

Speaker 2 (02:13:23):
I ordered peacock, I watched the gold zone.

Speaker 3 (02:13:26):
Like you mentioned the fact that you can pick and
choose every single individual event, no matter what event that's
going on, that you want to be able to watch.
I'm watching kayaking and a bunch of other stuff that
I never thought i'd watched in a trillion years, the pentathlon,
watching fencing the other day, and I've been riveted by it.
I'm in one thousand percent and now granted now it
can you know, basically cover up a couple of different

(02:13:49):
fronts or satisfy two fronts? Is it a time filler
because we're kind of in the dog days of summer
to with a certain degree, yes, But within that I'm
still thoroughly enjoying it.

Speaker 2 (02:13:59):
I'm gonna miss it the same, but I will say
I hope this sparks something in somebody that I don't
know wants to invest in handball, or maybe some young
athletes says I need to be handball. But wait, that
was a terrible out of context. I want to play handball.
I got you. I don't want to be hand Hey,
it's four hour show. Hang with me exactly.

Speaker 3 (02:14:21):
But I look if they have handball, like a recreational
handball league. Yeah, now handball, because handball for me growing up.
I don't know about you, Chris was like, there was
a ball, there was a wall, you bounced it off
and bounced handball. That was handball. This looks like some
sort of something out of a Will Farrow movie. But
I'm all for it. I'm a thousand percent in.

Speaker 2 (02:14:39):
You have to keep in mind we've got football that's
right in the next Olympics. Now it's not now tackle football,
it's flag football. Anthony Gargan, I will tell you it's
not real football. That's what he said last week. Oh
so is that what he can? I not say that?
Is that? No?

Speaker 3 (02:14:52):
No, no, no, please, you can say I defended it,
and I was like, it's different. It's like you can.
First of all, you can't have real football in the Olympics.
It's only two weeks long, not enough time for teams
to actually rest and play their next game.

Speaker 2 (02:15:02):
So if you're gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (02:15:04):
You can say it's glorified passing the league, sure, but
there's still strategy involved. There's routes that you have to run,
there's defenses that you play. Now, there's still strategy around it.
So I have I'm raising my hand like you can
see me. I have a dumb question knowing that every
commercial I feel like I see is Jalen Hurts throwing
a pass to the top of the coliseum and saying,

(02:15:26):
what we got next?

Speaker 2 (02:15:28):
Are we sending our boys to LA or are we
sitting the NFL guys in this seven on seven? I
don't know if is promoting it.

Speaker 3 (02:15:38):
Yeah, I don't know if we'd have current players do it,
but I'll recently retire guys.

Speaker 2 (02:15:42):
I could see it, but I could see it. I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:15:46):
I would love to see current players do I would
I would absolutely love to see some of our best
players participate, to see the Josh Allens and the Justin
Jefferson's especially like the best of the best.

Speaker 2 (02:15:56):
But I don't see even if.

Speaker 3 (02:15:58):
It's quote unquote just flag football, can you imagine a
guy running route, you know, plants turns and tears an
ACL or something.

Speaker 2 (02:16:05):
Oh my goodness, playing flag football for the Olympics. So
let me just give you future plank. I could imagine
the Raiders have this great young quarterback that has come along.
I'm trying to think, trying to think of a good
young quarter I just go Shador Sanders. Sure not. And
he's going to be on Team USA and he's going
to be the quarterback and he tears his acl before
the season starts. That's a good point. Yeah, I would

(02:16:28):
not care about America. I wouldn't care about America at
that point, exactly, like, oh my gosh, my guy's down.
I hear what you're saying. But I'm intrigued by the girls,
ladies women's singles.

Speaker 3 (02:16:39):
Yeah, the ladies have an opportunity to play football too.
Like I'm all for it, and I think it will
be phenomenal if we can find a way to get there.
Is I know there's been a giant push from the
NFL and there's a National flab Flag Football Association and
they've gotten some former players really get behind it.

Speaker 2 (02:16:55):
It will not surprise me at all.

Speaker 3 (02:16:56):
I don't know if we love actual football players skip
training camp, which is essentially what you'd be doing to
be able to participate but recently retire players, maybe some
young players, maybe even high school players, can play with
former NFL veterans, like on the same team. How cool
would that be if you were like a seventeen eighteen
year old kid. I think that'd be amazing. So I'm
in full support of flag football in twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (02:17:17):
All Tom Brady? Why not Tom? Yeah? Why not Tom?
Because Tom Brady is going to be the starting quarterback
for the Raiders by week six. He secretly has the playbook.
He's learning it as we speak.

Speaker 3 (02:17:30):
So that's why he hasn't bought that ownership state officially yet.
Right right, Okay, that's.

Speaker 2 (02:17:35):
My number one conspiracy theory. So Ian Roddy, stop, We're
not sending Raiders starting quarterback Tom Brady to the Olympics.
But the point is, right, right, could you imagine that
Brady in the Olympics. I'll be amazing, trust me, NBC
what love the United States? Whoever? They all love it.
They'd eat that alive.

Speaker 6 (02:17:49):
Send him, Randy Moss, Jerry Rice, just some some retired
players and see how they match up.

Speaker 3 (02:17:56):
Again, Jerry Rice is still going to break people's ankles.
At the age of fifty.

Speaker 2 (02:18:01):
It was funny. They have someone that posted that video
where Marino and Jerry Rice and Randy Moss were all
putting on their uniforms and it was kind of supposed
to be a joke because they're so old. And when
I saw a Moss walk bay, I was like, take
him on. My team's stop right right. I'll take my
chances with eighty four out there, all right, So Olympic

(02:18:22):
fun Today, you got the men's basketball finals US versus France,
three thirty Eastern time, correct, three thirty Eastern time. Women's
all they do is win, they'll play for the title tomorrow.
We got a lot going on this morning. See, we
got volleyball. We've got the gold medal match. France is
up on Poland one set to none, and this second

(02:18:43):
set has been wild. I've got the modern Pentathlon going
on on my gold zone, but I don't know how
to describe it at all. Well, right now, I believe
they're doing the fencing portion. I belove.

Speaker 3 (02:18:53):
Yeah, there's fencing in the pentathlon. Yeah, there's fencing. There's
an obstacle course of some sorts. There's a bunch of
different yets. I looked it up because I wasn't I
saw it. I was like, first of all, the fencing
there was a fencing arena. Then this is done outdoors,
so I was like, why are there two different types
of fencing? And then I found out that fencing is
actually a leg of the Pentathlon.

Speaker 2 (02:19:16):
Huh. Yeah. Can I tell you if if my Google
searches could be made public, I wouldn't be ashamed of them,
but I'd be very embarrassed. Like, for instance, because I
was pulling this up, why is there water in steeplechase?
Because I was trying to figure out why is there
a puddle in the middle of a track? What's going
on here? What does this prove?

Speaker 3 (02:19:35):
Right, it's odd, it's oh so here's the modern Pentathlon.

Speaker 2 (02:19:39):
Here's what we have. Okay, and by the way, this
right now going on on the gold zone, Yes it is,
while we're laugh on the air, So yeah, fencing, freestyle, swimming, equestrian,
show jumping, while laser pistols, shooting and cross country running
and and actually, as I read this, Chris says, e
questrian this year was replaced by the optacle course. Oh

(02:20:02):
so that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (02:20:03):
So those are all of the events as part of
the Pentathlon.

Speaker 2 (02:20:07):
So you still had to have rich parents, but just
rich right, Yes, So, uh, you're bored with riding horses,
why don't you take some pistol training, Go get her
a laser psyche for that, play a laser tag fight out.
How did that combination come together? Someone like I'm good
at this, I'm good at this and that.

Speaker 3 (02:20:28):
Who decides to put that together? I have no idea
the on all right, I owe you audio.

Speaker 2 (02:20:32):
So the best from the week that what's France as
we speak is taking a two set to nil lead
over Poland in the gold medal match. It is electric
in Paris. Uh and it was electric this week? What
do we learn dive into next? I'm Fox Sports Radio.
It's a Fox Sports Saturday. It's Fellas Infra Jason and Anthony,

(02:20:54):
I'm Chris Plank. Kevin Figures is always here. He'll have
a full update coming up at the bottom of this hour.
Ian and Mark running the show and kind of wanted
to dive into a couple of stories from the week
that was give him a little bit more I don't know,
give him a little bit more room to roam, play
a little bit more pepper with them. One of those
is the Michigan saga. And aside from the story that

(02:21:15):
Michigan is going to have Jim Harbaugh as an honorary
captain in their in their opening game of the season,
which is amazing. He's been given a show cause, basically
suspended a year from coaching in college football, and now
as he's preparing for his first year with the Chargers,
he's having to answer questions about not only this penalty,

(02:21:39):
but still to come. We don't know what's all involved
in the sign stealing report, so real quick from the
week that was Jim Harbaugh was asked earlier in the
week about the Connor Stallions. Now because remember there was
a story that that Harbaugh knew and that there was
more information about Stallions and that there what do we

(02:22:00):
see the draft of the notice of allegations, the draft
that was going to be sent out. Here's what Jim
Harbaugh said when that story first came out.

Speaker 13 (02:22:08):
Never lie, never cheat, never steal. I was raised with
that lesson. I have raised my family on that lesson.
I have preached that lesson to the teams that I've coached.
No one's perfect. If you stumble, you apologize, and you
make it right. Today, I do not apologize I did
not participate, was not aware nor complicit in those set allegations.

Speaker 2 (02:22:32):
So for me, it's back to work.

Speaker 13 (02:22:34):
And attacking with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind.

Speaker 2 (02:22:36):
So that was earlier in the weekend. And remember, let's
make sure we don't ghostbuster this. Do not cross the streams.
Don't cross the streams ray, because there's a separate story
from the Connor Stallion story, the sign stealing saga, the
issue that Jim Harball was talking about. There. Then there

(02:22:58):
was the oh yeah, he is still are getting deemed
for Burgergate. Whenever you allegedly broke well, I guess I don't.
Can we say allegedly anymore? Kevin, No, you broke it? Yeah,
well you broke it and see a recruiting rules during COVID, right,
so you still add that lingering and looming and boom, right,

(02:23:18):
he gets hit with the show costs because of that.
Here's what Harbaugh said. Then later, I guess this was yesterday,
right where after practice he was asked about the show
cost So you heard the reaction to the draft of
the report, which we haven't seen fully yet for the
penalties for the signs stealing tobacle. Now we officially know

(02:23:38):
the punishment for the Burger, for the illegal recruiting during
a time when you weren't supposed to the COVID era.
Here's what Jim Harbach said when he was asked about that.

Speaker 13 (02:23:49):
I'm the stopping the engagement there with commenting. But so
my only continued hope is that one day college athletics
will be about what's best for the young men and
the young women who participate in them. That's really all

(02:24:11):
I got to say about it.

Speaker 2 (02:24:14):
That, k Fig, what did you take away from that?

Speaker 3 (02:24:17):
Well, since I'll go back to the Ghostbuster's reference, I
am going to cross the streams as they trying to
make sure we keep our story separate, but it's really
really are in order to kill Zuel, they had to
cross the streams at the end. So I feel like
I need to do this because so on Monday he
comes out and says, I would never lie, cheat sealed.

Speaker 2 (02:24:34):
You played the SoundBite.

Speaker 3 (02:24:35):
So two days later it comes out and we basically
know for a fact he lied or and obstructed the
investigation or at least made things very difficult for the
NCUBA when he came to the COVID violation. Whether you
think it's a serious violation or not it is.

Speaker 2 (02:24:49):
I mean he did it. He did it one way
or the other.

Speaker 3 (02:24:51):
I would have had more respect for him if he
would have come out and said the NCUBLEA is totally ridiculous.
It's stupid that I couldn't buy this kid a cheeseburger
or host recruiting visits their whole operation and is totally archaic.
And I believe most people agree with me. Had he
said that, I think he would have guarded a lot
more respect. And most people say, you know what, he
broke a rule, but he's kind of right. The problem
is he now looks bad because he says I would

(02:25:12):
never lie cheater Steel when he clearly lied at least
in the cheeseburger situation, which kind of helped him. Has
him lose a little bit of the benefit of the
doubt when it comes to the Stallion situation. So from
that standpoint, I do think these streams are crossed and
it's a little correlated there. I think it's hard for
people to believe that that he had zero People were
gonna think this anyway by the way, that he had

(02:25:33):
zero knowledge of what happened, but even more so after
the COVID situation and how he handled that. There's even
less confidence to think that he had little to do
with the conter stallions, or at the very least that
he didn't know about it.

Speaker 2 (02:25:43):
And again the counter stallion saga that is the sign
stealing correct situation. Now I've heard that goes deep. You know,
there's there's allegations of hacking into mainframes. There's a lot
in some of the rumors around that report. But I'll
wait until it be comes I guess you could say
public and officialized. But I will say Michigan fans would

(02:26:05):
point out, well, Harbaugh never lied. He just was never
upfront or not upfront. Excuse me, he just never answered it.
That's what they would say in the defense of Jim Harble.
I don't know if fits. I don't know if it's
worthy of it. But at least this week we found
out that the NCAA is trying to attempt to still
be a disciplinary arm for college sports. Didn't know if

(02:26:27):
that was going to be the case. It looks like
they're going to try to be. Now when we come back,
I got more audio. Chris Carter would would slaps get
Bayless or I knock him out. We'll get to that
and quarterback controversies battles all across the NFL. We'll get
to him coming up, but first, let's get caught up
on everything in the world of sports. Okayik Scott's what's trending?

(02:26:47):
All right?

Speaker 3 (02:26:47):
Chris Well, Well, I'll start at the Olympics a couple
hours away, about two and a half hours away from
the gold medal match in women's soccer. As the United States,
we'll take on Brazil women's golf in the final round.
Right now, American rose zaying three shots, Nellie Quarta as
five strokes off the league. Currently, the US men's basketball
team will face France for the goal at three thirty
pm Eastern Times. Serbia defeated Germany earlier this morning to

(02:27:10):
win the bronze. Three NFL preseason games on Friday night,
including Philadelphia defeating Baltimore. Michael Pitnicks junior of Atlanta nine
of sixteen for one hundred and four yards, directed a
couple of scoring drives there in a loss to Miami.
Justin Fields five of six passing for sixty seven yards
for Pittsburgh in a loss to Houston. He fumbled a
couple of times and was also sacked twice. In Major

(02:27:30):
League Baseball, the Dodgers defeated the Pirates in nine to five.
Diamondbacks and Padres with victories as well. LA a two
and a half game lead over San Diego and three
and a half game lead over Arizona and the National
League West Minnesota, closing the gap in the AL Central.
They swept a doubleheader over Cleveland, now trail the Guardians
by a game and a half in their division Baltimore,
with a half game lead over the Yankees in the

(02:27:51):
AL East after they defeated Tampa four to one and
New York's game with the Rangers was reigned out.

Speaker 2 (02:27:57):
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(02:29:02):
up for you. Yeah, nothing makes me happier than two
Raiders fans talking and praising Chiefs football. Thanks guys. I
need to smoke now. It sucks. That's awful. I can't.
I can't think of any other way to put it.
I'm not well, I am not well over this, but
it's it's it sucks for me even deeper because as

(02:29:24):
an Oklahoma guy, that Chiefs roster is painted with Sooners
a free one, Morris James Winchester, Blake Bell was. I mean,
that's they and now I'm can't I can't have it.
I can't have it. You guys had your fun, Creed,
let us win a few. It's donefair, which also brings
up my Oklahoma fandom. Mister Harry James Taylor checked in

(02:29:46):
a superstar around these here parts k fig twenty days
left Plankard to get ready for Oklahoma to shock the SEC.
Hope you're right, Hope you're right. I'm again. I'm cautiously
optimistic about my teams right now. How about this one
for you, Harry James Taylor. I am more optimistic about

(02:30:07):
the Sooners chances of winning the SEC than I am
of the Raiders' chances of winning the West. Wow. So
I gotta I gotta find a good balance there because
I want them both to be I want equal Hope
is a hell of a drug. I want equal parts hope. Kevin,
what equal parts hope? And I have it on one
side and I don't know if it's well founded, and

(02:30:28):
I don't have it on the other though I really
want well.

Speaker 3 (02:30:30):
Okay, So I want to talk about the one side
because we talked about the Raiders a little bit. But
when it comes to your Sooners tough schedule in the
SEC for their first year down there, what's the what's
your vibe and what's the vibe out there? With them
transitioning into the SEC this year.

Speaker 2 (02:30:43):
Doing the SEC what they did in the Big twelve,
coming in to dominate. I mean, that's that's my mindset
that Texas has. That's the mindset that Oklahoma has. It's like, hey,
we're coming. What's the line from Tombstone? Tell them why
it hurt's coming? And hell's kinds coming with me? Yeah,
But I think in all honesty, there's the realization that
it's year three. This is where most programs take a
major stop. Look at Brian Kelly's ear threes. He's the

(02:31:05):
LSU head coach. His year three's right, It's just sometimes
it can be earlier. Bob Stoops in year two won
a national championship and then sustain it in year three,
but he didn't win the title but was on the
CUSPOAD one. So I just I don't know how to
feel about this schedule. It's just unlike anything I've ever seen.

(02:31:25):
I'm excited about. It scares the hell out of me
as a fan, but I think it's going to be
fascinating to see how a two or three loss SEC
team is going to be viewed against a one loss
Big twelve maybe ACC team whenever we're fighting and talking
about who gets into the playoffs, right, I think that

(02:31:46):
twelve thirteen four to well, I guess what you want
like eleven twelve, thirteen, fourteen fifteen. I think those are
going to be fascinating discussions. And my point of bringing
it up is, I think there could be a two
to three loss playoff team out of the SEC or the.

Speaker 3 (02:32:00):
Big ten easily without a doubt, that would easily be
able to jump over, or say a two loss team
or maybe even a one loss team from an ACC
or a Big twelve situation. I can see that happening. Yeah,
and then what muddy's the water a little bit? Although
I'm generally not a fan of this, but I like
the fact that the little guy gets a shot.

Speaker 2 (02:32:16):
Is that a group of five champion has to make
the cut. Sure other stories that I wanted to hit here,
So this was I didn't realize this. This was a
production of Ian Roddy Enterprises. He found this Chris Carter
cut from this past week, and I got to tell
you something. With Skip Bayless stepping away, I gas from media.

(02:32:39):
Chris for now. Chris Carter shared a story about a
time whenever he and Skip Bayless were working together.

Speaker 15 (02:32:46):
I'm on there doing the show. I do the show
and everything, and then all of a sudden, this is
when the.

Speaker 14 (02:32:50):
T Bow phenomenon was going on.

Speaker 15 (02:32:53):
So I come on there on a Monday, and you know,
we're trading barbs and everything. We go back and forth,
back and forth, back and forth, and then I just
level said it was like, listen, if throwing the football
is important in the NFL, Tim Tebow will never.

Speaker 14 (02:33:09):
Be a starting quarterback in the NFL.

Speaker 15 (02:33:11):
So he got defensive, and then he came back and said, well,
that's why you didn't win a super Bowl, which got
nothing to do with nothing.

Speaker 14 (02:33:20):
We went to commercial break. I took my earpiece out.

Speaker 15 (02:33:23):
And I told him I'll never be on your show again,
and if you ever say anything like that to me again,
I'll punch you right in the face.

Speaker 3 (02:33:33):
That's great, that's but didn't Skip pulled that with Shannon
at one point too.

Speaker 2 (02:33:38):
About what did you ever do or whatever?

Speaker 3 (02:33:40):
Or you never something like that took a shot at
Shannon's playing career when he's one of the great tight
ends of all time or something like it's I get it's.

Speaker 2 (02:33:47):
Part of the act. I understand, but man, there is
I struggle with it. Already's really good out it. He
doesn't care. He'll just he'll call you more out of
your face. And he didn't care. But like for me,
if I get fired up like that, I'm like.

Speaker 1 (02:34:02):
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (02:34:03):
How dare you? It's a personal cheap shot. I completely
understand where that comes from. I don't like it, but
I get it. I know, man, that's you got to
break out the shives every now and then, I guess
to really get somewhere. But Chris Carter was not having
it on that day. Ian How long ago was it
was that this week when that story came out? It
was this week.

Speaker 3 (02:34:22):
There are certain lines that you don't cross too, and
that's just one of those. It's outside of the scope
of the actual argument. I can't think of anything else
to say to disagree with you, so I'm just gonna
take a personal shot at you.

Speaker 2 (02:34:32):
Yeah, that's all that is real quick For the week
that was Jerry Jones on a Ceedee Lamb extension.

Speaker 5 (02:34:38):
I went tosscoo or I went to college on I
don't know why I say it, but I'm just saying
I don't have a sense urging it about getting it done.

Speaker 9 (02:34:51):
Any reason you won't.

Speaker 2 (02:34:53):
God, I had the media members, that's only money. Greatest
collection of comedy I've ever been a part of in
my life, was there was there more to that? It's
every that's all I hear the cut. It's Jerry, you're
so funny. So Jerry Jones has a bit of a
history with this or I go back to Ezekiel Elliott
saga and then what does he do? He pays him?

(02:35:15):
So I just you're not trading ceedee lamb, you're not
trading Dak Prescott. You feel like you're in a super
Bowl window. He said you were all in and didn't
do anything this offseason of substance. But I don't like
the disrespect there. Yeah, I don't like it. A lot
of sense of urgency.

Speaker 3 (02:35:33):
And well when it comes to Dak especially, you talk
about not trading, I'm sure they're not going to trade them.
You don't have the option of franchising them either.

Speaker 2 (02:35:40):
No, you know, you know, uh, this is a show
that talks a lot about Raider football whenever I'm not here,
I'm sure. So allow me to wrap our week that
was when we come back with Antonio Pierce on his
quarterback battle. Plus we'll get you ready for a full
day ahead of Olympics and infl football. It's all right
here on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, don't forget. As soon

(02:36:03):
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(02:36:46):
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(02:37:09):
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(02:37:29):
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(02:37:51):
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to you, k fig you think that this is awesome
because I do. You think it's soft or you think
it's weak. Others have thrown that out there as well.
This week, Jalen Hurts talked about reaching out to former

(02:38:13):
Giants defensive coordinator Wink Martindale.

Speaker 16 (02:38:16):
Yeah, I was just trying to pick his brain and
see what he saw on us and try and get
some some tips on some things. Well, I think it's
more so for me trying to trying to continue to
pour into my cup in terms of knowledge. And you know,
I've had a lot of respect for what he've done
and we've had a lot of success versus him. I
think that was a point where we're definitely trying to

(02:38:38):
make a run and make a puss, and I was
just trying to pour into my cup and knowledge from
him and pick his brain on some things. And you know,
a very very respectable person, actually a great person I'm
in that great coach and has a great mentality about
how it goes about his business.

Speaker 2 (02:38:54):
Okay, first of all, what it's been chopped up here?
Is he doing that from the cafeteria? What's going on?
It's it's someone chopping up the primary in the background
when the world's going on.

Speaker 3 (02:39:04):
I think it's a smart move by Jared Hurts though, Yeah,
dip into a big resource of knowledge like Wink Martindale.
Is has been a great defensive coordinator at the NFL
level for a long period of time now at Michigan.
If there anything that you can possibly do to give
yourself an edge or to get some insight that you
otherwise didn't have, why not.

Speaker 2 (02:39:21):
And if you're Wink Martindale, you're not coaching in the NFL. Yeah,
what do you care? You're you're in the college game now.
I thought I thought that was pretty cool. Yeah, And
then finally in our final two minutes, come on, man,
we get the hang. We're gonna wrap it up with
Raider talk. Here is Antonio Pierce, the Raiders head coach,
talking about his quarterback battle, which, by the way, has
not really given me a lot of confidence.

Speaker 13 (02:39:40):
You know.

Speaker 17 (02:39:40):
I don't think we've you know, sit there and say
somebody's won yet. I think they've both had good moments.

Speaker 2 (02:39:46):
I'll go back.

Speaker 17 (02:39:47):
I think Gardner's had you know, several days now where
he's made some plays, but there's also some turnovers that
show up that we don't want to have happen as well.
And again when I look at Aden, I see a
guy who's you know, throwing the ball accurate. I see
some drops wire wide receivers, and I'll he's just on
the quarterbacks. I think overall offensive player has to pick
up since urgency wide receivers a line just all those
guys again go back to the very beginning of my

(02:40:07):
olding a statement of training camp. They're going against a
very good defense and I think they're filling that and
I think it's good for our team the competition part.
But obviously somebody again has to just step up. And
we're getting closer and closer, and obviously we're getting the
game mode a little bit as we get later in
the week.

Speaker 2 (02:40:23):
Now, my hope is you and I get to do
a show before week one again together. But if we don't.
You got started quarterback Week one for the Raiders against
the Chargers.

Speaker 3 (02:40:32):
Well, we talked about earlier that they're trying to will
it into existence. I think they'll make it happen. They're
going to go with Aidan O'Connell.

Speaker 2 (02:40:37):
I think so too. If I'm the not I think
so too. I think so too. I think it's going
to be Aid and O'Connell. I can't wait to overreact
to it. Oh yeah, trying the game today, dude, I'm
going to try to wish me luck today. I have
an event tonight, so I'm trying to and I know
it's in the afternoon, so I'm trying to DVR record
the Raiders game without finding out anything that's going to

(02:40:58):
be hard in twenty twenty four, No, dude, and then
that thing inside will kick in. It's like, what's going on?
My foma will kick in. Yeah, it's terrible, just terrible, Okay,
fig I love working with you, dude. I hope you
have an awesome Saturday. Ian Mark, I'll let you guys
know during the break you're the absolute best. The fellas
are going to return next week, and make sure to
come join. We'll keep it out here on Sunday nights,

(02:41:19):
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