February 8, 2025 • 42 mins
LaVar & Plaxico give their thoughts on the NFL Honors ceremony, trying to make sense of how the nominations worked, the Hall of Fame class in 2025, picks for the game, and more!
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of Fame as well, because I got three names. I'll
throw them out there when we get there. But listen,
I'm appreciative and I'm happy for all the guys that
got into the Hall of Fame. I don't think it
should have been either or I think that they could
have been included. But we'll talk about that. We're going
to get to that in a matter of moments. But
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I want to talk NFL honors. Got my man stretched
Armstrong otherwise, you guys know him in his every day
you know his street gear when he's just a civilian,
not saving innocent people's lives and protecting the world from
danger's plexico burst. Uh hey, bro, I gotta, I gotta,
I gotta first start here, Bro. The NFL has come
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up with this this list of awards, and they they
give them out every year, and there's all these big
debates surrounding the awards and there's a big build up
and all this stuff. I just got a few questions
here and then I listen, I don't even want this
to be about kind of slighting Josh Allen, because it's
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really not about slighting him getting the MVP of the
League award, even though statistically speaking, it doesn't, you know,
justify it. But let's let's just start here. You have
the list, and you have the NFL MVP finalists, NFL
MVP finalists, not anything else, just NFL MVP finalists. The
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list Josh Allen, say Kwon Barkley, Joe Burrow, Jared Goff,
and Lamar Jackson. All right, those are your five finalists
for NFL MVP. Then you have the NFL Offensive Player
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of the Year. Which is interesting because plexico, I really,
I really like, I really want people to understand. I'm
trying to understand what differentiates the NFL MVP from the
NFL Offensive Player of the Year because if I just
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get now, here's the list on the offensive players of
the year, say Kwon Barkley, Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, Derrick Henry,
and Lamar Jackson. So out of the list of NFL MVPs,
you have say Kwon Barkley, you have Joe Burrow, you
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have Lamar Jackson on the final list list of Offensive
Player of the Year. Now here's where this gets a
little interesting to me. All Right, here's where it gets
a little interesting to me. Why would you not have
every single player that's on the NFL MVP list on
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the Offensive Player of the Year list? That was my
that's my first question. Why is Josh Allen? Is he
not an offensive player? Why is he not? Why is
he not on the list? Why is Jared Goff not
on the NFL Offensive Player of the Year finalist list?
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It's strange to me. Then I asked myself this question
because this is why I'm getting I'm leading up.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
To what differentiates these two awards?
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Because you're saying NFL, which means you've not differentiated any
side of the ball, and yet every single time we
look at what's going on with NFL MVP finalists.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
What it's because you reserve the.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
Right for every once in a while, maybe every moon
that's blue. You're gonna add a defender to the NFL
MVP list, Yes, if you're not gonna make it for
the defenders to be able to be an MVP finalists,
What the hell are you calling it INFL? NFL? Not offensive,
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not defensive, not special teams. You're calling this the NFL
MVP Award, Yet all you put on there are offensive players,
So what the hell, is the difference between an MVP
finalist and an offensive player?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Well, I think you just answered it.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
I think that this year the previous years, it just
happens to be that for the NFL MVP list, they're
all offensive players, but you can they can nominate a
defensive player to be on the NFL MVP list. That
is the difference between the NFL MVP and the NFL
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Offensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
It just happens.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
You can't obviously, you can't put a defensive player on
the offensive side of the award. So the NFL MVP
is supposed to go to the most valuable player, and
obviously the offensive being the Offensive Player of the Year
speaks for itself. So the defensive players can be nominated
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to be in the NFL MVP category. But it just
so happens that, you know, Jared goff is because he's
on the NFL MVP offensive list, but obviously he wasn't.
He's not he wasn't good enough this year to make
the NFL MVP category.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
How does that that? That's that's like taking an exit
on weirdo road. No, this is so weird, man.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
You can't put just because you have the guys on
the NFL NFL MVP list just because all those guys
are on the NFL Offensive Players. You can't just put
them on the NFL Offensive MVP of the Year list
just because all the offensive players made the MVP category.
Why you can't do that?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Why if you are up for if you're not up
here on the NFL.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I understand what you're saying. I just what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
You asked me a question, and I broke it down
to you the best way that I know. How Well,
we're on Weirdo Road and we're going to drive down
Wardo Road with Weirdo Lane. They would give you the
same exact explanation that I gave you. It's just it's
just so happens that they're all NFL players on the
NFL MVP. If you are on the NFL MVP final
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list list, that is the most coveted award.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Correct, that's the heisman of the correct Yes, yes, okay,
So if you are considered, by by the way, the
same people that are voting for all these awards, and
the same people that are voting for the All pros,
and those people, these are the same people doing these
lists and voting. Here's why we're on We took the
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exit off of the highway and went on the weirdo road.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
So we would so we wouldn't be having this conversation
if Patrick stan was how is he not m v P?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
How is he not on there? How is he not
on there?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Because he won Defensive Player of the Year he was
on defense.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
If you are the best defender in the National Football League,
I would assume that it doesn't make you an MVP. Okay, well,
so here's it. So here's where we were. This is
where it gets interesting. If it doesn't make you the
m v P, then how is Josh Allen up for
m v P but not up for Offensive Player of
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the Year?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
How is he not up for it?
Speaker 6 (09:03):
How does Joe how does how does Jared Goff be
up for NFL MVP of the League? You are the
most valuable for the league, but you're not even good
enough to be a finalist for Offensive Player of the Year.
Talk to me, because I know we don't weardo road
right now? How do you understand it?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Talk to me?
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Why's Jared Goff? And why is Josh Allen not up
for Offensive Player of the Year? But yet you are
not only the finalist for the most coveted of the awards,
mis means you are the best of all players in
the National Football League if you're on the NFL MVP
finalist list. If you're an NFL finalist on that list,
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then you know what, if you won that NFL MVP
award and you're Josh Allen, not only should you be
on the NFL Offensive Player of the Year finalist list,
but just should win it because you're an offensive player
that won best player in the league. You didn't just win.
You didn't just win Offensive Player of the year year.
You won best player of the year. So how are
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you not winning Offensive Player of the Year. It's weird.
It's super weird. It's upsetting. It bothers me.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
And I really really chose to look at it this way.
I've been having this.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
I've been having the same uh issue with the college
football as far as the defensive awards are considered. You
have the Big Bucket's Award, which is what the most
outstanding linebacker, But then you have the big the Defensive
Player of the Year, and this uh nag. Then you
got Lombardski.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
If you're the.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Best linebacker at all of football. If you're a Defensive
Player of the Year, you're the linebacker, why don't you
win both?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
I mean, I'm not disagreeing with.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
You the year in college football and you are a.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Linebacker, why don't you win both?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
You're supposed to, You're supposed to, You're supposed to.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
I mean again, I just I'm trying to understand it,
because here's my thing.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Here's my thing. Lamar Jackson and.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
Joe Burrow statistically should have been should have been the
ones that.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Were battling it out to win the MVP. I have
no problem with you.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
I have no problem with you choosing Josh Allen with
whatever y'all felt your reasoning was, because there could be elements,
as you mentioned, outside of just statistics that went into
why you won the award.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I have no problem with that.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
I'm not taking anything away from Josh Allen. I think
he is one of the top three quarterbacks in this league.
But after this season, that just happened. Just like you said, Statistically,
Lamar Jackson was the first quarterback in NFL history throw
four thousand yards and rush for eight hundred. That's never
ever been done before that right there, I think puts
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him in the category or thematically to win his third
NFL MVP in a row, because something that's never happened.
And then you look at obviously, you look at Joe Burrow,
the season that he had, he is deserving of an MVP.
And then you have to put Saquan in the mix
because he was on the verge of doing something that
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hadn't been done in forty years and the team basically
said that, you know what, we're gonna rush you, so
he didn't have the opportunity to do so. With all
of that being said, those three guys that I just mentioned,
I really believe that Josh Allen was the fourth best
player on that list to receive that award based off
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of the season that just happened with these three players
that I.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Just named, and you have to agree with that.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
But for some strange reason, halfway through the season Week eight,
week nine, everybody was already saying that Josh Allen's going.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
To win the MVP.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
How because because Stefan Diggs left and they're saying that
they were basically what picked last in the division and
now he's.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Doing more with less.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
That doesn't put you in the driver's seat of winning
the NFL MVP, it goes to the most Valuable Player,
and I don't know how they came up with it,
but I just believe that they didn't want to give
Lamar his third MVP in the row because he was
deserving of it just based off of the NFL history
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that he accomplished this season.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
It had never been done before.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
We are making a left on the Moron Road. Right
now here we go, We're gonna turn on the Moron
Road because we was just on Weirdo drive. We're gonna
turn on the Weardol road. Josh Allen wins by twenty
one votes over Lamar Jackson. Twenty one votes over Lamar Jackson.
Saquan only got one hundred and twenty votes, not even
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close to being in the running for being the n
NFL MVP over Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. Right, but yet,
but yet he wins Offensive Player of the Year. He went,
we're on more on road now right, We're on more
on road. But yet he wins Offensive Player of the Year.
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And he destroyed it on votes. He destroyed it on
votes and it wasn't even close. He got He got
thirty five first place votes to Lamar Jackson's twelve.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Please make it make sense to me. Please make it
make sense to me.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
It doesn't make sense, and it makes sense.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
So now here's the trickle down effect. Both perfect.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
You were with me and I know we got to
get to a break, but you were with me when
I did the show alone, and I did the trickle
down effect of what's going to happen when when Josh
Allen gets it's the MVP Award. The trickle down effect
is somebody's going to get left out. And I'm telling
you right now, they got to give it to Saquan
on offense. They had to give it to Joe Burrow
for Comeback Player of the Year because you had to
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give back. You had to give him something. You had
to give him something, so you did and that's.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
What you so you gave him a.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
Door prize. Get your ass up out of here. Basically,
you had the best You had the best year of
any offensive player in the league this year. We're going
to give you award. And here's what's crazier than that.
You want to know what's crazier than that? Okay, let's
make a U turn out of the dead end street
of Moron. Moron road, and let's go back out to
the mountain. Bro Let's let's hey, let's make a right turn.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Let's let's make a right turn. No sense I want
to ask you this question. This too also so uh,
the most Valuable Player says that the ward is simply
stated most valuable Player.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
That's correct.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Is there is there a like a qualification if you're
being announced in this category if your team is not
very good or they don't make the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Uh, is that say they.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Hold that against They say they hold that against you.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
But it's the most Valuable Player award. It doesn't matter
how what ther team is doing.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
That's correct. That's correct.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
So if you're gonna if you're gonna base it off
of who is looking like they are the best player
of the year, then you got to base it off
of who is the best player of the year, and
you gotta narrow it down to Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson,
and Satan Sake Warble.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Absolutely not Josh.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
So with that being said, you got to create a
door prize. Give you give Joe Burrow a door prize
of being the comeback Player of the Year for being
the MVP that didn't get it. You give it to
Saque because he didn't get it as the Offensive Player
of the Year, and Lamar Jackson got nothing. Lamar Jackson
got no awards.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
They gave zero Isolation prize is what they gave Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Make it make sense.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
We're talking about forty nine hundred yards passing and forty
three touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I'm just trying to understand.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Comeback player to you.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
How do you have a most valuable defensive player and
they're not on the list of most valuable players for
MVP of the league. You're telling me it's okay that
the most important defender and all of the National Football
League is only good enough to be the most valuable defender.
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But you're not in there in the conversation most valuable player.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
You know what you're throwing.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
You're throwing the hypocrisy of what the NFL is and
all of our faces. And if we're paying attention there,
it is because I tell you right now, you got
to be one bad mother effort to be in the finalist,
let alone win the Defensive of the Year award, the
Defender of the Year award. You gotta be one bad
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mamma jama to be on that. You do, and you
telling me Miles Garrett or TJ. Watt Pat t Ortan
second who won it. You're telling me they're good enough
to be your Defensive Player of the Year, but they
should not be in consideration for being the most Valuable
of the Year. They're not gonna be on the list.
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It's crazy, man, It's crazy. It's something to think about
because all these different awards shows and all this. You
want to generate some money, You want to have fun,
get dressed up in your suits and have these dudes
walk around and this, that and the other. That's why
you got cats flopping. You got this soft served syrup
mentality that these guys got because they cater to in
such a way like like, let it be real, man,
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let it be real. You want to know who gets
the MVP Award in the Serengetti That mother lover that
goes and takes that gazelle down and feed the fees
the pride brings it back. That hyena that that ran
them down and said it's over here. Let's go get
these cats. Let me tell you something. You have to
earn the MVP Award and the Serengetty. You don't just
get it given to you, and I'm just saying it
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kind of outraged me a little bit. And yeah, probably
the catalyst of me digging into it the way that
I did this year was because Sae Kwon Barkley was
the MVP of this league. He should have broke the record.
They didn't break the record. He showed that he was
the ultimate team players. That means you are the most
valuable to your team because you being a great teammate
was more than you being the MVP of the league
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or winning the breaking the Russian title in which you did.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
And you know what, it got me going, and then
I just started feeling like.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
This outside all that the young man handled it with grace.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
The whole time, Yes, the whole time. The whole time.
You're listening to up on game that's Plexiko Burts. I'm
LeVar Arrington. I had a meltdown. I'm gonna get a
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then I'm gonna get me some water, and then we're
gonna come back, and then we're gonna I'm gonna see
how we're I'm gonna check Plexicos temperature on this Hall
of Fame situation where well, Eli Manning is on the
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list of people that were finalists to get into the
Hall of Fame and did not make it. All right,
there's another name on there, and we always talk about it.
But we're gonna talk about that. On the other side
of the break. You're listening up on game. All right,
TJ's out today. It's all right, it's me, It's plex
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Speaker 6 (22:47):
All right, this is up on game and we are
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It's plex Coo Burs. I'm LeVar Arrington. If you missed
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following the show. This one was a spirited one, that
(23:10):
last segment because well you got to try to make
it make sense and one that I'm interested in hearing
from you. Plexico Urus is now the latest you know,
Hall of Fame class. The new members have been announced,
you know, great group of guys. Eric Allen if people
may or may not remember him because he's from like
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the late eighties early nineties, he was a cornerback. He
does television, does an amazing job as well on television,
has had a very very successful run of being on
television and talking about the sport. Jared Allen, who obviously
that's a hands down shoe and I saw him on
my way out. Shouts out to him and his family
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for him making it in and getting in. Antonio Gates,
that's that's a no brainer. I was surprised he wasn't
a first ballot. I believe this was the second year. Yeah,
I believe this was his second year of eligibility to.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Have going in. And so he goes in.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
And then the biggest mind blower, which was the coolest
one of them all because it gives me hope for
the next piece of this conversation that we're going to have.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
It gives me hope.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
That guys like Freddie t and Willie Anderson and Darren
Woodson are going to actually get their day and their
time to go into the National Football Hall of Fame.
Sterling Sharp finally gets into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Now, I gave you those.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Names that I hope one day get in, but there
was actually a name missing that everybody has been talking
about and buzzing about, which was Eli Manning not getting
the nod as a first ballot. There's been a lot
of opinions on both sides of it as to why
he should have been a first ballot, why he shouldn't
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have been if he even is a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
You played with and you caught.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
Arguably, I don't know, it's it's an arguable one in
some people's estimations if the head catch or the nail
in the coffin catch are the bigger bigger, which one
is the bigger one to knock off the undefeated Patriots?
But I mean, I'm gonna be biased, even though I
love Tyree, Dave, my boy too and my former teammate,
but you my bro bro well so is Dave. But man,
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I just think it's such a it's such an iconic
moment when you hit him with with that that inside,
then you go to the outside, you catch it, you pull,
you pull.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
The mouthpiece out.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
The mouthpiece was funny because you started the whole trend
to put in your mouthpiece in your in your chin strap,
pull it out.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
You do your deal. You hit the knee, and the
game is over.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
That was a super iconic moment, and and it all
came from the past from your boy. Eli should have
gotten in from your estimation. What's your take on Eli
not getting in, and what's your take on him? You know,
is he a Hall of Famer at all?
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Is he a Hall of Famer? He's definitely a Hall
of Famer. I've took it a step further. You know,
we had this conversation, you know last year. You know,
we have this conversation every year when the Hall of
Fame rose around during Super Bowl Week. And I believe
that Eli Manning, no doubt first is a first ballot
Hall of Famer. And it was just just like we
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had this conversation about Jalen Hurst earlier. Everybody's talking about
what he didn't do, and so what qualifies you to
be a Hall of Famer or first ballot Hall of
Famer and they look at Oh, he was never nominated
to a first team All Pro. He led the league
(26:41):
in interceptions three different years. Well, the year that he
led the interception in you league in interceptions in seven,
he won a World championship. And I believe he led
he led interceptions in the league in interceptions in with
ten or eleven, and he.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Won the two bowling in twelve.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
So I just don't understand why like the voters, the
people that vote be for the Hall of Fame, they
find they try to figure out everything that you didn't do.
And we're talking about a young man in the sixteen seasons,
never missed a football game, never missed one football game.
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I ain't know that fifty seven hundred yards passing fifty
seven thousand yards passing three hundred and sixty six touchdowns,
and he's not a first ballot Hall of Famer. How
many let me ask you this question, how many Hall
of Fame quarterbacks right now do you think are playing
in the NFL?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Just right off the.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
Top, right now, Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes, Am I missing anybody?
You can say that Lamar will probably go down to.
And now that Josh Allen has his MVP, he.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Was debated in the debatable.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
So we're talking about Eli Manning and the man has
two World championships, and I just don't understand what you
have to do from a quarterbacking standpoint. To people even
questioning the narrative if he's even a Hall of Fame quarterback.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
At all, are you out of your mind?
Speaker 5 (28:21):
I've had the opportunity to grace the football field with
this young man and now and know how great of
a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
That he was.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
Oh, you know, he went a four year stretch without
winning a playoff game, so what the times that he
got into the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (28:39):
He went all the way to win.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
A World championship as being a wildcard football team, not
being the number one seed with home fill advantage, doing
it the hard way, going on the road, and being
able to reach the pinnacle of the sport through a
wild card. And now we're talking about all the things
that he didn't do from a quarterback and standpoint, man,
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you look at this Hall of Fame and now we're
looking at the next year's class. You know who's the
next year class? Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, Jason Whitten, Frank Gore.
You can arguably say that those guys that I just
mentioned are going to be first ballot Hall of Famers.
Do you think they're going to put in two quarterbacks
next year in the Hall of Fame? Do you think
Eli Manning goes in with Drew Brees? I don't think so.
(29:26):
So with that being said, I think he's probably gonna
have to wait another year or two maybe to get in.
And now you know, we're getting into this, this this
era of this, this era of man.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I'm looking at Tory Halk.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Yeah, it's a good one, Tory hawk Man, that's a
good one.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Come on, talking about six seasons of ninety plus catches,
six straight season thirteen hundred yards, eight straight thousand yard
seasons and we're talking about number one in catches of
ninety plus, ninety plus catch seasons and he's not in
(30:07):
the Hall of Fame? Him and Reggie Wayne, What are
the requirements? If that is not greatness, show me what
is it's greatness? It's things that have never been accomplished
before in this business that these young men have put
on their resume.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
They are deserving, they earned it.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Send me over, what are the qualifications for you to
get into the Hall of Fame? Because it's becoming to
the point to where they don't even respect greatness. And
if that's the case, then what are we doing?
Speaker 6 (30:48):
You know what you didn't even throw in there, by
the way, is that your boy Eli Manning went and
those two appearances was the MVP both times. And I
would be willing, I would willing, I would be willing
to throw that out there that how many how many
Hall of Fame quarterbacks. Do you have that won won
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a Super Bowl and won an MVP in the Super Bowl.
I'd be curious. I was sitting trying to find it.
I haven't been able to find it, bow or perfect.
I know you guys are wizes on stuff like that.
If you could find it, I would be curious.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I will tell you this.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
There are ten quarterbacks in the National Football League who
are in the Hall of Fame without a Super Bowl ring.
There are only ten without even and I think your
numbers have got to be like Dan Marino. His numbers
are so gutdy. It's like, you know what, you didn't
win it. Okay, I get it. You know, Jim Kelly,
you went to four.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
Super Bowls and you're bawled out like and your numbers
are great. I get it. I get it, you know,
I get it. But there are some guys that are
in this in the Hall of Fame that don't have
very many Pro Bowls. They don't have very many All Pros,
but they might have won an award here or like
you know, got MVP or something to that effect. And
(32:05):
I think they found a way to justify one way
or the other that they go into the Hall of fame.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
You know, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
All I know is the ultimate measure of a season
for a team is where they end up. How many
games did they win, how well did they do? And
you're talking about one of the most see this to
me is what gives it the gasoline. It's not that
it was just any super Bowl. It's not that he
(32:32):
just won any super Bowl. You won almost arguably the
Super Bowl and beating the greatest quarterback of all time
and a team that was actually going to claim the
title of being greatest team of all time even over
Don Shula's undefeated Miami Dolphins teams had they won that
(32:54):
game and Eli Manning was the MVP of ruining.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
That just something to think about. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
I feel like we're in contrariance to the to the
media today, the NFL right now.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
But it's interesting.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
I hope Eli gets into the to the Hall of
Fame as well at some point. It was pretty interesting
he wasn't a first ballot. I'm sure maybe Peyton now
can say he's got another one up on Elau and.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
What Big Bro does.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
But anyways, let's get an update from Ilo. Uh what
we got going on?
Speaker 7 (33:20):
My guy I'd like to hire Plaxico as my hype man.
How about it either either that of my attorney.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
It's crazy.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
I like the way you make persuasive arguments. I have
a feeling I might need you with my attorney before
I need you as my hype man. But that's another story.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
I can find you one.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I trust your judgment.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
We'll start in the NBA, where the Los Angeles Lakers
have officially ruled out Lebron James for their game today
against the Indiana Pacers because of left ankle soreness. Multiple
outlets report that free agent Ben Simmons intends to sign
with the Los Angeles Lippers upon clearing waivers after he
agreed to a contract buyout with the Brooklyn Nets. Former
NFL head coach Dick Duran has passed away at the
(34:07):
age of seventy four. Jiran was the head coach of
the Chicago Bears and Buffalo Bills. He won the NFL's
Coach of the Year award with the Bears in two
thousand and one. In college basketball, Number four Tennessee as
a sixty eight to forty lead at Oklahoma five and
a half to play in the second half. Number eight
Iowa State leading TCU sixty two to forty one with
(34:28):
nine minutes left to play in the second half, Oregon
holding on to a sixty two to sixty one lead
at number nine Michigan State with twelve minutes left to
play in the second half, and fourteenth ninety a half
fourteenth right Kentucky leading South Carolina fifty to thirty nine
with ten and a half to play in the second half.
So yeah, we'll see if Michigan State can come back.
(34:49):
They've lost two in a row after a thirteen game
winning streak.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Back to you guys, they need some more nil money.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
I don't think me. I let you say. You heard
what they said. We got got a we got whatever
you need. Maybe if you want to come to Michigan
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I mean, we got endless, endless, endless.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Yeah, well we'll see about that.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
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It's Plexico, Burris and LeVar. It is my name. We
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Speaker 6 (37:45):
Of minutes left for the show before we get the
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Speaker 3 (37:52):
It didn't rhyme. It didn't rhyme. I don't care.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
It was kind of funny. It's kind of funny.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
You know, people don't be liking my singing, but I
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on it.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
You know.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
It's like it's like you're singing in a shower in public. Yeah, yeah,
I think it sounds good to you. But but it's
horrible to everyone else. But I'll tell you what, I'm
not horrible at up on game, down on game.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Come on, let's go.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Time for some picks. Are you up on game?
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Let's crack this out, let's break it up.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Tell that game?
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Huh? All right? What we got both? All right? Everyone?
Speaker 8 (38:30):
Everyone went five hundred last week. But that's not important
because tomorrow is the big one. Yes, we've all been
waiting for this one. The Philadelphia seventy six ers take
on the Milwaukee Bucks some Sunday. But I'm just kidding. Obviously, Eagles.
Eagles take on the Kansas City Chiefs and the Super Bowl.
Kansas City a one and a half point favorite. He
(38:52):
over under said it forty and a half. So we're
gonna pick the game, and then as time permits, we'll
do some props. But Lvar, we're gonna start with you
here on the game.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Picks money line, and the Eagles on this one. And
I hope I didn't jinx them by doing this.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
I am very, very skeptical obviously by the coaching. I
just don't know that the you know, they can offset
the coaching of Kansas City. But I'm I think Saquan
is the difference. So I'm a money line them, and
as far as the points, I'm taking the over on
the points.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
Oh man, you know what, I think. I'm taking over
on the points. But I have to get disagree with
my colleague over there, and I think I'm going with
the Kandacity the Chiefs. I'm a money line that says
their minus win and a half. I believe they win
by a touchdown. I believe they neutralize this Philadelphia Eagle
(39:49):
defensive line in Jalen Caller with getting the ball out quickly.
And I think that the kandasity the Chiefs win this
game tomorrow by a touchdown.
Speaker 8 (40:00):
All right, perfect, LeVar. You can come back next week, Platts,
So you're gonna take the day off, right.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
We don't have any playoff problem, No, we do.
Speaker 8 (40:05):
We do a coin toss here, heads or.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Tails oohing tails.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
I'm going tails.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Tales never fail, all right, Gatorie and that wrong with
little heads either, you know what I mean. But let's
jump to the tail, all right.
Speaker 8 (40:23):
Gatorade color dumped on the winning coach. The current favorite
is a yellow slash green, nah.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
Purple, Nah, I'm going I'm going red. I'm going red
Kansas City Chiefs when they dumped the catorade on and
Reid is going to be red all right.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Last Nick is going to be purple.
Speaker 8 (40:44):
Last prop I've got for you guys. Here your Super
Bowl MVP quick odds. Here, Mahomes plus one twenty he's
the favorite, Barkley plus two sixty, Hurts plus three fifty,
and Kelsey at plus fifteen hundred.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Oh, those all the selections we can take.
Speaker 8 (41:00):
He can pick whoever you want. Those are just the
I'm gonna.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
Jump out of the gate and I say, this man
is going to have an electric work evening tomorrow. He's
a rookie wide receiver, and I'm going to take Xavier Worthy.
He's going to have a fight that's not going to
be electric, even though he's a rookie. So I'm gonna
take Xavier Worthy to be the MVP tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
We are.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Been the state.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
We are.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Penn State.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
I'm taking Sakwon Barkley. Baby Fly, Eagles Fly.
Speaker 6 (41:32):
I don't even like Philadelphia Eagles, but you know what,
I'm a Penn Stater.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
It's a it's a PA thing.
Speaker 6 (41:38):
And my man, my young man, my young stud homie
Sakuon Barkley of State College Pennsylvania, penn State. Nitney Line
is going to show up and he's going to show out,
and he's gonna walk away with that MVP Award and
the super Bowl Championship. So I saw I'm going with
and listen. I hope y'all enjoyed the show. I hope
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y'all stay tuned. But Jonas Knox is coming up next,
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(01:24):
of Fame as well, because I got three names. I'll
throw them out there when we get there. But listen,
I'm appreciative and I'm happy for all the guys that
got into the Hall of Fame. I don't think it
should have been either or I think that they could
have been included. But we'll talk about that. We're going
to get to that in a matter of moments. But
(01:44):
I want to talk NFL honors. Got my man stretched
Armstrong otherwise, you guys know him in his every day
you know his street gear when he's just a civilian,
not saving innocent people's lives and protecting the world from
danger's plexico burst. Uh hey, bro, I gotta, I gotta,
I gotta first start here, Bro. The NFL has come
(02:07):
up with this this list of awards, and they they
give them out every year, and there's all these big
debates surrounding the awards and there's a big build up
and all this stuff. I just got a few questions
here and then I listen, I don't even want this
to be about kind of slighting Josh Allen, because it's
(02:29):
really not about slighting him getting the MVP of the
League award, even though statistically speaking, it doesn't, you know,
justify it. But let's let's just start here. You have
the list, and you have the NFL MVP finalists, NFL
MVP finalists, not anything else, just NFL MVP finalists. The
(02:51):
list Josh Allen, say Kwon Barkley, Joe Burrow, Jared Goff,
and Lamar Jackson. All right, those are your five finalists
for NFL MVP. Then you have the NFL Offensive Player
(03:12):
of the Year. Which is interesting because plexico, I really,
I really like, I really want people to understand. I'm
trying to understand what differentiates the NFL MVP from the
NFL Offensive Player of the Year because if I just
(03:34):
get now, here's the list on the offensive players of
the year, say Kwon Barkley, Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, Derrick Henry,
and Lamar Jackson. So out of the list of NFL MVPs,
you have say Kwon Barkley, you have Joe Burrow, you
(03:57):
have Lamar Jackson on the final list list of Offensive
Player of the Year. Now here's where this gets a
little interesting to me. All Right, here's where it gets
a little interesting to me. Why would you not have
every single player that's on the NFL MVP list on
(04:21):
the Offensive Player of the Year list? That was my
that's my first question. Why is Josh Allen? Is he
not an offensive player? Why is he not? Why is
he not on the list? Why is Jared Goff not
on the NFL Offensive Player of the Year finalist list?
(04:45):
It's strange to me. Then I asked myself this question
because this is why I'm getting I'm leading up.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
To what differentiates these two awards?
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Because you're saying NFL, which means you've not differentiated any
side of the ball, and yet every single time we
look at what's going on with NFL MVP finalists.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
What it's because you reserve the.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
Right for every once in a while, maybe every moon
that's blue. You're gonna add a defender to the NFL
MVP list, Yes, if you're not gonna make it for
the defenders to be able to be an MVP finalists,
What the hell are you calling it INFL? NFL? Not offensive,
(05:32):
not defensive, not special teams. You're calling this the NFL
MVP Award, Yet all you put on there are offensive players,
So what the hell, is the difference between an MVP
finalist and an offensive player?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Well, I think you just answered it.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
I think that this year the previous years, it just
happens to be that for the NFL MVP list, they're
all offensive players, but you can they can nominate a
defensive player to be on the NFL MVP list. That
is the difference between the NFL MVP and the NFL
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Offensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
It just happens.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
You can't obviously, you can't put a defensive player on
the offensive side of the award. So the NFL MVP
is supposed to go to the most valuable player, and
obviously the offensive being the Offensive Player of the Year
speaks for itself. So the defensive players can be nominated
(06:37):
to be in the NFL MVP category. But it just
so happens that, you know, Jared goff is because he's
on the NFL MVP offensive list, but obviously he wasn't.
He's not he wasn't good enough this year to make
the NFL MVP category.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
How does that that? That's that's like taking an exit
on weirdo road. No, this is so weird, man.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
You can't put just because you have the guys on
the NFL NFL MVP list just because all those guys
are on the NFL Offensive Players. You can't just put
them on the NFL Offensive MVP of the Year list
just because all the offensive players made the MVP category.
Why you can't do that?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Why if you are up for if you're not up
here on the NFL.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I understand what you're saying. I just what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
You asked me a question, and I broke it down
to you the best way that I know. How Well,
we're on Weirdo Road and we're going to drive down
Wardo Road with Weirdo Lane. They would give you the
same exact explanation that I gave you. It's just it's
just so happens that they're all NFL players on the
NFL MVP. If you are on the NFL MVP final
(07:56):
list list, that is the most coveted award.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Correct, that's the heisman of the correct Yes, yes, okay,
So if you are considered, by by the way, the
same people that are voting for all these awards, and
the same people that are voting for the All pros,
and those people, these are the same people doing these
lists and voting. Here's why we're on We took the
(08:19):
exit off of the highway and went on the weirdo road.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
So we would so we wouldn't be having this conversation
if Patrick stan was how is he not m v P?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
How is he not on there? How is he not
on there?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Because he won Defensive Player of the Year he was
on defense.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
If you are the best defender in the National Football League,
I would assume that it doesn't make you an MVP. Okay, well,
so here's it. So here's where we were. This is
where it gets interesting. If it doesn't make you the
m v P, then how is Josh Allen up for
m v P but not up for Offensive Player of
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the Year?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
How is he not up for it?
Speaker 6 (09:03):
How does Joe how does how does Jared Goff be
up for NFL MVP of the League? You are the
most valuable for the league, but you're not even good
enough to be a finalist for Offensive Player of the Year.
Talk to me, because I know we don't weardo road
right now? How do you understand it?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Talk to me?
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Why's Jared Goff? And why is Josh Allen not up
for Offensive Player of the Year? But yet you are
not only the finalist for the most coveted of the awards,
mis means you are the best of all players in
the National Football League if you're on the NFL MVP
finalist list. If you're an NFL finalist on that list,
(09:40):
then you know what, if you won that NFL MVP
award and you're Josh Allen, not only should you be
on the NFL Offensive Player of the Year finalist list,
but just should win it because you're an offensive player
that won best player in the league. You didn't just win.
You didn't just win Offensive Player of the year year.
You won best player of the year. So how are
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you not winning Offensive Player of the Year. It's weird.
It's super weird. It's upsetting. It bothers me.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
And I really really chose to look at it this way.
I've been having this.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
I've been having the same uh issue with the college
football as far as the defensive awards are considered. You
have the Big Bucket's Award, which is what the most
outstanding linebacker, But then you have the big the Defensive
Player of the Year, and this uh nag. Then you
got Lombardski.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
If you're the.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Best linebacker at all of football. If you're a Defensive
Player of the Year, you're the linebacker, why don't you
win both?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
I mean, I'm not disagreeing with.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
You the year in college football and you are a.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Linebacker, why don't you win both?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
You're supposed to, You're supposed to, You're supposed to.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
I mean again, I just I'm trying to understand it,
because here's my thing.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Here's my thing. Lamar Jackson and.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
Joe Burrow statistically should have been should have been the
ones that.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Were battling it out to win the MVP. I have
no problem with you.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
I have no problem with you choosing Josh Allen with
whatever y'all felt your reasoning was, because there could be elements,
as you mentioned, outside of just statistics that went into
why you won the award.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I have no problem with that.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
I'm not taking anything away from Josh Allen. I think
he is one of the top three quarterbacks in this league.
But after this season, that just happened. Just like you said, Statistically,
Lamar Jackson was the first quarterback in NFL history throw
four thousand yards and rush for eight hundred. That's never
ever been done before that right there, I think puts
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him in the category or thematically to win his third
NFL MVP in a row, because something that's never happened.
And then you look at obviously, you look at Joe Burrow,
the season that he had, he is deserving of an MVP.
And then you have to put Saquan in the mix
because he was on the verge of doing something that
(12:19):
hadn't been done in forty years and the team basically
said that, you know what, we're gonna rush you, so
he didn't have the opportunity to do so. With all
of that being said, those three guys that I just mentioned,
I really believe that Josh Allen was the fourth best
player on that list to receive that award based off
(12:41):
of the season that just happened with these three players
that I.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Just named, and you have to agree with that.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
But for some strange reason, halfway through the season Week eight,
week nine, everybody was already saying that Josh Allen's going.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
To win the MVP.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
How because because Stefan Diggs left and they're saying that
they were basically what picked last in the division and
now he's.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Doing more with less.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
That doesn't put you in the driver's seat of winning
the NFL MVP, it goes to the most Valuable Player,
and I don't know how they came up with it,
but I just believe that they didn't want to give
Lamar his third MVP in the row because he was
deserving of it just based off of the NFL history
(13:33):
that he accomplished this season.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
It had never been done before.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
We are making a left on the Moron Road. Right
now here we go, We're gonna turn on the Moron
Road because we was just on Weirdo drive. We're gonna
turn on the Weardol road. Josh Allen wins by twenty
one votes over Lamar Jackson. Twenty one votes over Lamar Jackson.
Saquan only got one hundred and twenty votes, not even
(13:57):
close to being in the running for being the n
NFL MVP over Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. Right, but yet,
but yet he wins Offensive Player of the Year. He went,
we're on more on road now right, We're on more
on road. But yet he wins Offensive Player of the Year.
(14:20):
And he destroyed it on votes. He destroyed it on
votes and it wasn't even close. He got He got
thirty five first place votes to Lamar Jackson's twelve.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Please make it make sense to me. Please make it
make sense to me.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
It doesn't make sense, and it makes sense.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
So now here's the trickle down effect. Both perfect.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
You were with me and I know we got to
get to a break, but you were with me when
I did the show alone, and I did the trickle
down effect of what's going to happen when when Josh
Allen gets it's the MVP Award. The trickle down effect
is somebody's going to get left out. And I'm telling
you right now, they got to give it to Saquan
on offense. They had to give it to Joe Burrow
for Comeback Player of the Year because you had to
(15:12):
give back. You had to give him something. You had
to give him something, so you did and that's.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
What you so you gave him a.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
Door prize. Get your ass up out of here. Basically,
you had the best You had the best year of
any offensive player in the league this year. We're going
to give you award. And here's what's crazier than that.
You want to know what's crazier than that? Okay, let's
make a U turn out of the dead end street
of Moron. Moron road, and let's go back out to
the mountain. Bro Let's let's hey, let's make a right turn.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Let's let's make a right turn. No sense I want
to ask you this question. This too also so uh,
the most Valuable Player says that the ward is simply
stated most valuable Player.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
That's correct.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Is there is there a like a qualification if you're
being announced in this category if your team is not
very good or they don't make the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Uh, is that say they.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Hold that against They say they hold that against you.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
But it's the most Valuable Player award. It doesn't matter
how what ther team is doing.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
That's correct. That's correct.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
So if you're gonna if you're gonna base it off
of who is looking like they are the best player
of the year, then you got to base it off
of who is the best player of the year, and
you gotta narrow it down to Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson,
and Satan Sake Warble.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Absolutely not Josh.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
So with that being said, you got to create a
door prize. Give you give Joe Burrow a door prize
of being the comeback Player of the Year for being
the MVP that didn't get it. You give it to
Saque because he didn't get it as the Offensive Player
of the Year, and Lamar Jackson got nothing. Lamar Jackson
got no awards.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
They gave zero Isolation prize is what they gave Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Make it make sense.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
We're talking about forty nine hundred yards passing and forty
three touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I'm just trying to understand.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Comeback player to you.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
How do you have a most valuable defensive player and
they're not on the list of most valuable players for
MVP of the league. You're telling me it's okay that
the most important defender and all of the National Football
League is only good enough to be the most valuable defender.
(17:39):
But you're not in there in the conversation most valuable player.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
You know what you're throwing.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
You're throwing the hypocrisy of what the NFL is and
all of our faces. And if we're paying attention there,
it is because I tell you right now, you got
to be one bad mother effort to be in the finalist,
let alone win the Defensive of the Year award, the
Defender of the Year award. You gotta be one bad
(18:09):
mamma jama to be on that. You do, and you
telling me Miles Garrett or TJ. Watt Pat t Ortan
second who won it. You're telling me they're good enough
to be your Defensive Player of the Year, but they
should not be in consideration for being the most Valuable
of the Year. They're not gonna be on the list.
(18:29):
It's crazy, man, It's crazy. It's something to think about
because all these different awards shows and all this. You
want to generate some money, You want to have fun,
get dressed up in your suits and have these dudes
walk around and this, that and the other. That's why
you got cats flopping. You got this soft served syrup
mentality that these guys got because they cater to in
such a way like like, let it be real, man,
(18:51):
let it be real. You want to know who gets
the MVP Award in the Serengetti That mother lover that
goes and takes that gazelle down and feed the fees
the pride brings it back. That hyena that that ran
them down and said it's over here. Let's go get
these cats. Let me tell you something. You have to
earn the MVP Award and the Serengetty. You don't just
get it given to you, and I'm just saying it
(19:12):
kind of outraged me a little bit. And yeah, probably
the catalyst of me digging into it the way that
I did this year was because Sae Kwon Barkley was
the MVP of this league. He should have broke the record.
They didn't break the record. He showed that he was
the ultimate team players. That means you are the most
valuable to your team because you being a great teammate
was more than you being the MVP of the league
(19:33):
or winning the breaking the Russian title in which you did.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
And you know what, it got me going, and then
I just started feeling like.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
This outside all that the young man handled it with grace.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
The whole time, Yes, the whole time. The whole time.
You're listening to up on game that's Plexiko Burts. I'm
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how we're I'm gonna check Plexicos temperature on this Hall
of Fame situation where well, Eli Manning is on the
(20:09):
list of people that were finalists to get into the
Hall of Fame and did not make it. All right,
there's another name on there, and we always talk about it.
But we're gonna talk about that. On the other side
of the break. You're listening up on game. All right,
TJ's out today. It's all right, it's me, It's plex
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It's plex Coo Burs. I'm LeVar Arrington. If you missed
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following the show. This one was a spirited one, that
(23:10):
last segment because well you got to try to make
it make sense and one that I'm interested in hearing
from you. Plexico Urus is now the latest you know,
Hall of Fame class. The new members have been announced,
you know, great group of guys. Eric Allen if people
may or may not remember him because he's from like
(23:30):
the late eighties early nineties, he was a cornerback. He
does television, does an amazing job as well on television,
has had a very very successful run of being on
television and talking about the sport. Jared Allen, who obviously
that's a hands down shoe and I saw him on
my way out. Shouts out to him and his family
(23:52):
for him making it in and getting in. Antonio Gates,
that's that's a no brainer. I was surprised he wasn't
a first ballot. I believe this was the second year. Yeah,
I believe this was his second year of eligibility to.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Have going in. And so he goes in.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
And then the biggest mind blower, which was the coolest
one of them all because it gives me hope for
the next piece of this conversation that we're going to have.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
It gives me hope.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
That guys like Freddie t and Willie Anderson and Darren
Woodson are going to actually get their day and their
time to go into the National Football Hall of Fame.
Sterling Sharp finally gets into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Now, I gave you those.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Names that I hope one day get in, but there
was actually a name missing that everybody has been talking
about and buzzing about, which was Eli Manning not getting
the nod as a first ballot. There's been a lot
of opinions on both sides of it as to why
he should have been a first ballot, why he shouldn't
(24:56):
have been if he even is a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
You played with and you caught.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
Arguably, I don't know, it's it's an arguable one in
some people's estimations if the head catch or the nail
in the coffin catch are the bigger bigger, which one
is the bigger one to knock off the undefeated Patriots?
But I mean, I'm gonna be biased, even though I
love Tyree, Dave, my boy too and my former teammate,
but you my bro bro well so is Dave. But man,
(25:24):
I just think it's such a it's such an iconic
moment when you hit him with with that that inside,
then you go to the outside, you catch it, you pull,
you pull.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
The mouthpiece out.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
The mouthpiece was funny because you started the whole trend
to put in your mouthpiece in your in your chin strap,
pull it out.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
You do your deal. You hit the knee, and the
game is over.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
That was a super iconic moment, and and it all
came from the past from your boy. Eli should have
gotten in from your estimation. What's your take on Eli
not getting in, and what's your take on him? You know,
is he a Hall of Famer at all?
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Is he a Hall of Famer? He's definitely a Hall
of Famer. I've took it a step further. You know,
we had this conversation, you know last year. You know,
we have this conversation every year when the Hall of
Fame rose around during Super Bowl Week. And I believe
that Eli Manning, no doubt first is a first ballot
Hall of Famer. And it was just just like we
(26:21):
had this conversation about Jalen Hurst earlier. Everybody's talking about
what he didn't do, and so what qualifies you to
be a Hall of Famer or first ballot Hall of
Famer and they look at Oh, he was never nominated
to a first team All Pro. He led the league
(26:41):
in interceptions three different years. Well, the year that he
led the interception in you league in interceptions in seven,
he won a World championship. And I believe he led
he led interceptions in the league in interceptions in with
ten or eleven, and he.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Won the two bowling in twelve.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
So I just don't understand why like the voters, the
people that vote be for the Hall of Fame, they
find they try to figure out everything that you didn't do.
And we're talking about a young man in the sixteen seasons,
never missed a football game, never missed one football game.
(27:17):
I ain't know that fifty seven hundred yards passing fifty
seven thousand yards passing three hundred and sixty six touchdowns,
and he's not a first ballot Hall of Famer. How
many let me ask you this question, how many Hall
of Fame quarterbacks right now do you think are playing
in the NFL?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Just right off the.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
Top, right now, Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes, Am I missing anybody?
You can say that Lamar will probably go down to.
And now that Josh Allen has his MVP, he.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Was debated in the debatable.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
So we're talking about Eli Manning and the man has
two World championships, and I just don't understand what you
have to do from a quarterbacking standpoint. To people even
questioning the narrative if he's even a Hall of Fame quarterback.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
At all, are you out of your mind?
Speaker 5 (28:21):
I've had the opportunity to grace the football field with
this young man and now and know how great of
a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
That he was.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
Oh, you know, he went a four year stretch without
winning a playoff game, so what the times that he
got into the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (28:39):
He went all the way to win.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
A World championship as being a wildcard football team, not
being the number one seed with home fill advantage, doing
it the hard way, going on the road, and being
able to reach the pinnacle of the sport through a
wild card. And now we're talking about all the things
that he didn't do from a quarterback and standpoint, man,
(29:04):
you look at this Hall of Fame and now we're
looking at the next year's class. You know who's the
next year class? Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, Jason Whitten, Frank Gore.
You can arguably say that those guys that I just
mentioned are going to be first ballot Hall of Famers.
Do you think they're going to put in two quarterbacks
next year in the Hall of Fame? Do you think
Eli Manning goes in with Drew Brees? I don't think so.
(29:26):
So with that being said, I think he's probably gonna
have to wait another year or two maybe to get in.
And now you know, we're getting into this, this this
era of this, this era of man.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I'm looking at Tory Halk.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Yeah, it's a good one, Tory hawk Man, that's a
good one.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Come on, talking about six seasons of ninety plus catches,
six straight season thirteen hundred yards, eight straight thousand yard
seasons and we're talking about number one in catches of
ninety plus, ninety plus catch seasons and he's not in
(30:07):
the Hall of Fame? Him and Reggie Wayne, What are
the requirements? If that is not greatness, show me what
is it's greatness? It's things that have never been accomplished
before in this business that these young men have put
on their resume.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
They are deserving, they earned it.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Send me over, what are the qualifications for you to
get into the Hall of Fame? Because it's becoming to
the point to where they don't even respect greatness. And
if that's the case, then what are we doing?
Speaker 6 (30:48):
You know what you didn't even throw in there, by
the way, is that your boy Eli Manning went and
those two appearances was the MVP both times. And I
would be willing, I would willing, I would be willing
to throw that out there that how many how many
Hall of Fame quarterbacks. Do you have that won won
(31:11):
a Super Bowl and won an MVP in the Super Bowl.
I'd be curious. I was sitting trying to find it.
I haven't been able to find it, bow or perfect.
I know you guys are wizes on stuff like that.
If you could find it, I would be curious.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I will tell you this.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
There are ten quarterbacks in the National Football League who
are in the Hall of Fame without a Super Bowl ring.
There are only ten without even and I think your
numbers have got to be like Dan Marino. His numbers
are so gutdy. It's like, you know what, you didn't
win it. Okay, I get it. You know, Jim Kelly,
you went to four.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
Super Bowls and you're bawled out like and your numbers
are great. I get it. I get it, you know,
I get it. But there are some guys that are
in this in the Hall of Fame that don't have
very many Pro Bowls. They don't have very many All Pros,
but they might have won an award here or like
you know, got MVP or something to that effect. And
(32:05):
I think they found a way to justify one way
or the other that they go into the Hall of fame.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
You know, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
All I know is the ultimate measure of a season
for a team is where they end up. How many
games did they win, how well did they do? And
you're talking about one of the most see this to
me is what gives it the gasoline. It's not that
it was just any super Bowl. It's not that he
(32:32):
just won any super Bowl. You won almost arguably the
Super Bowl and beating the greatest quarterback of all time
and a team that was actually going to claim the
title of being greatest team of all time even over
Don Shula's undefeated Miami Dolphins teams had they won that
(32:54):
game and Eli Manning was the MVP of ruining.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
That just something to think about. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
I feel like we're in contrariance to the to the
media today, the NFL right now.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
But it's interesting.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
I hope Eli gets into the to the Hall of
Fame as well at some point. It was pretty interesting
he wasn't a first ballot. I'm sure maybe Peyton now
can say he's got another one up on Elau and.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
What Big Bro does.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
But anyways, let's get an update from Ilo. Uh what
we got going on?
Speaker 7 (33:20):
My guy I'd like to hire Plaxico as my hype man.
How about it either either that of my attorney.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
It's crazy.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
I like the way you make persuasive arguments. I have
a feeling I might need you with my attorney before
I need you as my hype man. But that's another story.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
I can find you one.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I trust your judgment.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
We'll start in the NBA, where the Los Angeles Lakers
have officially ruled out Lebron James for their game today
against the Indiana Pacers because of left ankle soreness. Multiple
outlets report that free agent Ben Simmons intends to sign
with the Los Angeles Lippers upon clearing waivers after he
agreed to a contract buyout with the Brooklyn Nets. Former
NFL head coach Dick Duran has passed away at the
(34:07):
age of seventy four. Jiran was the head coach of
the Chicago Bears and Buffalo Bills. He won the NFL's
Coach of the Year award with the Bears in two
thousand and one. In college basketball, Number four Tennessee as
a sixty eight to forty lead at Oklahoma five and
a half to play in the second half. Number eight
Iowa State leading TCU sixty two to forty one with
(34:28):
nine minutes left to play in the second half, Oregon
holding on to a sixty two to sixty one lead
at number nine Michigan State with twelve minutes left to
play in the second half, and fourteenth ninety a half
fourteenth right Kentucky leading South Carolina fifty to thirty nine
with ten and a half to play in the second half.
So yeah, we'll see if Michigan State can come back.
(34:49):
They've lost two in a row after a thirteen game
winning streak.
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I don't think me. I let you say. You heard
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Yeah, well we'll see about that.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
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Time for some picks. Are you up on game?
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Tell that game?
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Huh? All right? What we got both? All right? Everyone?
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Everyone went five hundred last week. But that's not important
because tomorrow is the big one. Yes, we've all been
waiting for this one. The Philadelphia seventy six ers take
on the Milwaukee Bucks some Sunday. But I'm just kidding. Obviously, Eagles.
Eagles take on the Kansas City Chiefs and the Super Bowl.
Kansas City a one and a half point favorite. He
(38:52):
over under said it forty and a half. So we're
gonna pick the game, and then as time permits, we'll
do some props. But Lvar, we're gonna start with you
here on the game.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Picks money line, and the Eagles on this one. And
I hope I didn't jinx them by doing this.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
I am very, very skeptical obviously by the coaching. I
just don't know that the you know, they can offset
the coaching of Kansas City. But I'm I think Saquan
is the difference. So I'm a money line them, and
as far as the points, I'm taking the over on
the points.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
Oh man, you know what, I think. I'm taking over
on the points. But I have to get disagree with
my colleague over there, and I think I'm going with
the Kandacity the Chiefs. I'm a money line that says
their minus win and a half. I believe they win
by a touchdown. I believe they neutralize this Philadelphia Eagle
(39:49):
defensive line in Jalen Caller with getting the ball out quickly.
And I think that the kandasity the Chiefs win this
game tomorrow by a touchdown.
Speaker 8 (40:00):
All right, perfect, LeVar. You can come back next week, Platts,
So you're gonna take the day off, right.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
We don't have any playoff problem, No, we do.
Speaker 8 (40:05):
We do a coin toss here, heads or.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Tails oohing tails.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
I'm going tails.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Tales never fail, all right, Gatorie and that wrong with
little heads either, you know what I mean. But let's
jump to the tail, all right.
Speaker 8 (40:23):
Gatorade color dumped on the winning coach. The current favorite
is a yellow slash green, nah.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
Purple, Nah, I'm going I'm going red. I'm going red
Kansas City Chiefs when they dumped the catorade on and
Reid is going to be red all right.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Last Nick is going to be purple.
Speaker 8 (40:44):
Last prop I've got for you guys. Here your Super
Bowl MVP quick odds. Here, Mahomes plus one twenty he's
the favorite, Barkley plus two sixty, Hurts plus three fifty,
and Kelsey at plus fifteen hundred.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Oh, those all the selections we can take.
Speaker 8 (41:00):
He can pick whoever you want. Those are just the
I'm gonna.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
Jump out of the gate and I say, this man
is going to have an electric work evening tomorrow. He's
a rookie wide receiver, and I'm going to take Xavier Worthy.
He's going to have a fight that's not going to
be electric, even though he's a rookie. So I'm gonna
take Xavier Worthy to be the MVP tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
We are.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Been the state.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
We are.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Penn State.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
I'm taking Sakwon Barkley. Baby Fly, Eagles Fly.
Speaker 6 (41:32):
I don't even like Philadelphia Eagles, but you know what,
I'm a Penn Stater.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
It's a it's a PA thing.
Speaker 6 (41:38):
And my man, my young man, my young stud homie
Sakuon Barkley of State College Pennsylvania, penn State. Nitney Line
is going to show up and he's going to show out,
and he's gonna walk away with that MVP Award and
the super Bowl Championship. So I saw I'm going with
and listen. I hope y'all enjoyed the show. I hope
(41:59):
y'all stay tuned. But Jonas Knox is coming up next,
and uh yeah, it won't be as good as this show,
but you know what he'll try and it might work
out for him. But I doubt if I was taken
over under on that, I take up on Game Jonas
NOx As Netives was up on Games plus Coe Burgs.
I'm leavarr into Fox Sports Radio
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