A Debate That Doesn’t Need An Answer

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening. It's the gift that keeps on giving. Everybody,
It's the gift that keeps on giving. We just can't
get enough of it. I will explain why it makes
very little sense to get involved in it. That coming
up here in just a couple of minutes, Jonas knocks
in for Doug Gottlieb here on Fox Sports Radio. You
can always listen to the show here on the I

(00:23):
Heart Radio. App appreciate everybody hanging out here on Memorial Day.
Lots of baseball, lots of beer, lots of fun talk
in and around the world of sports. But I do
want to start with something that I that I find
a little bit a little bit interesting. All right, so
we all know what happened last night Game seven. Lebron
James was fantastic and the Boston Celtics folded. They melted

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down the stretch and a lot of these players that
were playing in backup roles ended up playing a lot
like backups down the stretch of that game. So you
give Lebron James credit. He wins the game, and he
looked fantastic. The Calves are onto the NBA Finals and
Lebron eight straight finals appearances. Awesome job by Lebron James.

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But there are certain questions, and I've always believed this,
that there are certain questions that you don't need a
straight answer in order to get an answer, right, Like,
you don't need a straight on answer in order for
those questions to be answered in some way, shape or form.
What I mean by that is like if your wife

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or if your girlfriend starts talking to some guy she
works with a lot, and if you sense that there's
something suspicious going on and you ask her, Hey, what's
going on with that guy over there? Do you do
you have feelings for him? If her answer to you
is you know, I don't know. I mean, it could

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be you, it could be him. I'm I just I'm
not sure, that's good enough, you know what I mean?
Like that, that is a good enough answer for you
to really get what you were looking for. Okay, The
fact that she has to think about it and the
fact that she's not quite sure is the answer you need.
She didn't give you a direct answer. She didn't answer
the question directly. She didn't give you exactly how the

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question was phrased and and and posed to her. She
gave you enough of an answer to where you're like,
all right, I don't need to stick around for part
two of this answer. That was good enough. I got
my information. I'm out of here. All right, you've gotten
your information, you know, Like, you know what, two guys
don't debate. Two guys don't debate whose house is nicer

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if both those guys live in a beach or on
a gated community. Right, if they're in a gated community
or a beach, they're never going to debate whose house
is nicer. You want to know why, because they both
live in a gated community or on the beach. So
it doesn't really matter everybody's house is nice. What's the point?

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So the fact that it's a question, and if it's
enough of an answer and you get you you kind
of have these discussions back and forth and you realize
what are we really debating here? Like there are certain
questions that you don't need a straight answer in order
to be answered. That's the Jordan versus Lebron debate, Like,

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you don't need a straight answer in order to get
enough of an answer to be fine with it. I
don't need to know whether or not your house is
better than mine. We're both living on a beach, we're
both in Malibu, we see the ocean. Who cares? Who cares?
So the fact that Jordan's versus Lebron is a legitimate
debate at this point and a legitimate question that should

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be enough. That's all we need. Like like, like you
get enough of an answer just by asking the question.
And so when people spend their times and they go
back and forth and they're just arguing, well, this guy
is better and that guy is better, but he did
this in the finals, and like, just take a step

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back and understand what we are arguing. We're arguing whether
or not Lebron Jay Games is now better than Michael
Jordan's and the fact that we're at this point should
be enough for people to go, yeah, this is pretty cool.
Regardless of who's better, who cares? Both these guys are fantastic.
They're both great. That we're at this point, it really
doesn't matter. You're arguing something that's never going to give

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you an answer. Okay, it is a legitimate question because
how fantastic Lebron has been for so long, and this
in his fifteen season, playing every single game, playing forty
eight minutes in Game seven, he was brilliant Lebron James
was brilliant in Game seven for for the Calves against
the Boston Celtics. He was brilliant in fact, I actually

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and I say brilliant because I don't think he was
that people are calling it. I think Tylou afterwards said
it was his best game, you know, this best game
of it. I don't think that it was. I mean,
I don't know how you can say that was that
guy's best game. Where there were moments during that game
where Lebron James was clearly spent and either couldn't get

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back on defense because he made a block of Terry
Rozier at the rim that probably should have been a foul,
but didn't even try and get back on defense. There
was a time in the first portion of the game
where Jayson Tatum hit a three and Lebron James gave
up on trying to help on defense. He had a
lot of turnovers, So I don't think he was great
in that game. I I used the term brilliant because

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I think he was brilliant in conserving his energy. I
think he was brilliant in the way that he navigated
the game, and I think he realized who he was
playing against and because he'd been in that moment so
many times that he was efficient over those forty eight
minutes and he had to be. And going into the
Eastern Conference playoffs, I was trying to find a reason

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to get excited about this. I was trying to find
something that I could sink my teeth into and go
all right, at least make it somewhat interesting. I mean,
the Western Conference, we all understood that if we can
get Houston Golden State in the Western Conference Finals, that's
a win. That's that's the matchup we've been looking for,
aren't you know? This entire season. I just hope nothing

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happens those two teams meeting in the Western Conference finals
because Houston was Golden States CounterPunch. Houston designed their team
and designed their roster to be able to compete with
Golden State. Darryl Mori has said it publicly a number
of times that that was the goal. How can we
compete with Golden State? So if they're the contender that's

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been groomed to take over the lead spot, you want
to see them match up. And here we are on
a game seven. But in the Eastern Conference playoffs, we
were looking around going, Jesus, what do we got? I mean,
Philadelphia's got young talent, but um it, can you really
trust them? And then they're gone early? And then Milwaukee's
got your honest but they're gone in game seven. That

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guy couldn't even get weighted on an a Mexican restaurant
in Milwaukee after one of his games. They won a
game late, he won the game for him, and he
was waiting fifteen minutes to get served in Milwaukee. So
we're waiting around, going all right, what do we got
left in the playoffs? And outside of a miraculous run
by Boston, which is a big market and a legendary

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team with a huge fan base and a loyal fan
base and one of the bright young coaches we've seen
in the game. Outside of that was Lebron James going
Bo Jackson tech Mobil. And I said it at the start,
I'm like, I'm all in for it. If you remember
tech Mobil when you played it when you were younger,
tech Mobil, if you just handed the ball to Bo Jackson,

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he was unstoppable. You couldn't stop him, and he's really
all you needed. I mean, I think the Raiders in
that game maybe had j. Schrader or somebody else. If
I'm not mistaken, but you just handed the ball to
Bo Jackson. He was all you needed. That's what I
was looking for. How far can Lebron James bring this team?
Performing as Bo Jackson for the Cleveland Cavaliers and he's

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gotten them to the finals. But this whole back and
forth conversation about who who's better, Michael Jordan or Lebron Man,
I am just done with it. There is never going
to be an answer. You're never going to get an answer.
It's just not gonna happen. It's like arguing politics or

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religion or anything. You either believe what you believe or
you don't. But the fact that we're having a discussion
should be enough. He's an all time great player. He's
done amazing things. He's won championships. He's also lost a
lot of championships. He's gonna lose another one this year.

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He is historically fantastic. But I mean, you wouldn't sit
there and argue he's greater than Jordan. It's like arguing
whether or not Derek g which one of Derek Jeter's
ex girlfriends, is the hottest who cares? Like what what
does it matter. They're all hot. So when I see

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the back and forth and it just goes on and on,
and everybody's just defending Lebron James to the end and
saying he's better because of this, and like, like you
either you're gonna believe what it is that you want
to believe. And it's one of those things, and it's
one of those questions that you don't need a straight
answer in order for it to be answered. Lebron James

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coming into the n b A was hyped up more
than maybe any prospect in the history of the sport.
He was talked about as being the next Michael Jordan's.
How many of those next Jordan's actually pan out and
become part of the conversation. Anybody remember Baby Jordan's Harold
Minor like he want to slam dunk contest and I

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don't know where the hell the guy went. Like that's like,
like we're talking about a guy who was hyped up
maybe more than any other prospect in the history of sports,
and not only as he delivered on the all that
he's surpassed it and the fact that he's in the
neighborhood that he's in that gated community that he's in
that beachfront property right next door to Michael Jordan's. That

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should be enough. Not every question needs a straight answer.
The fact that it's a question answers it enough. Jonas
Knox in for Doug Gottlieb here on Fox Sports Radio.
You can listen to the show is always on the
I Heart Radio app and you can get me on
Twitter at the Jonas Knox Coming up next year on
Fox Sports Radio. Um, there is a a gentleman who

(10:28):
has made an appearance in the sports landscape. Right. It's
somebody that has been in your life for a long time,
but you didn't realize how impactful he really was. I'll
tell you who that is next year on Fox Sports Radio.
Jonas knocks in for Doug Gottlieb here Fox Sports Radio.

(10:48):
Coming up about a little more than ten minutes from
now here on Fox Sports Radio. One of the best
hosts on television is going to be here. He's fantastic,
he's a regular here on Ox Sports Radio. He's gonna
and he's a straight shooter. He'll tell you exactly what
the deal is on a couple of major issues coming
up in the world of sports and stick around for
that that is a twelve minutes from now here on

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Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, it's amazing, man. You know, you
know the difference between a hundred dollar bill that's crisp
and one that's been folded and in your wallet for
a couple of weeks, Uh nothing, And you would never
ask what the difference is they both spending there a
hundred dollars. That's that's Lebron James and Michael Jordan's What
are we arguing about this back and forth? What are

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we doing? And plus have some proper strategy when it
comes to debate stuff. And if you're gonna put lists together,
wait and do it in June and July after the
NBA playoffs, because nobody wants to sit and talk about baseball,
all right, like like be you gotta really think big
picture when it comes to this stuff. And I just
feel like people are burning up a lot of those
arguments here in the in the prime time NBA postgame

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playoff talk era. All Right, Um, so somebody made an
appearance and this we've we've got to sort of explain
what this person is, all right, So it's somebody that's
been in your life for a long time, and they
started to make an appearance following Game seven. But they've
they've been in your in your life at times, and

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they've flared up at certain times. I was gonna make
a reference to a certain maybe a certain disease, but
I don't want to do that because I don't want
to drive this show into the mud. And I normally
do weekend overnight so you can get away with it there.
I don't want to do it here on a Memorial
Day when the street lights aren't even on. But this
person pops up in your life every now and again,
and they're not a good person. In fact, I would

(12:37):
say that they're a bad person, and they're pretty annoying.
And um, John Ramos, who is the tech producer here
on the show. You hear John Ramos, the host of
The John Ramos Show. He's one of the all time
grades in the history of sports dock radio. And John
Ramos came up with a character and he was the
first one to really communicate and put a name to

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this face that makes in a parents in sports over
the past couple of decades. But really you've seen it
flare up a lot on social media where everybody has
their dear diary moment after a game and they want
to get their's out with a lame hashtag to go
along with it, and all the other juicy little takes
that go on after games happen. And the name of
this guy is fake argument Guy. Fake argument Guy is

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fascinating because fake argument Guy is basically psychotic, right, he
is a nut job if you if you remember the
part in Kingpin. So there's the movie Kingpin, Woody Harrelson
sitting at the bar and he's just on a bender.
He's ripped out of his mind. And there's this one

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scene on the movie Kingpin where he turns to his
left and goes, who are you calling a psycho? And
guys like, I didn't say anything to you. It's like
he's basically he's psychotic. He's hearing voices, he's delusional. It's
like a schizophrenic, like he is hearing something that isn't there.
And that's basically the essence of fake argument Guy. And

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John Ramos, since you came up with the name of
fake argument Guy, did you see how he started to appear? Um,
he started to appear last night. Uh, fake argument Guy
was out there and uh his argument was for those
of you who doubted Lebron james Is greatness. I hope
you're watching Who the hell doubted his greatness? Who's ever

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come out and said that? Nobody's done it? John Robins?
Do you know is there a guy who can you
think of a man or a woman that has ever
doubted Lebron James's greatness over the past couple of years. Um,
I don't know anybody who that would be. But I
thought you're talking about fence guy because fence guy to
also fence guy was there too, Okay, explain, explain what

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fence guy is for everybody, because fence guy, Oh that
is a fence guy is a guy who will say, like,
you know what, I really think that the Cavaliers are
gonna have a tough time beating the Celtics even with Lebron.
But again, that guy's one of the best players. I mean,
you never know what he could do. You can't count

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count count him out. Yeah, yeah, he's the He's the
no show prep guy on on radio who's not sure
which way he wants to go because he hasn't thought
that far, so he just says, listen, I really like
Golden State in this game. I think Golden States because
it come out big. I really like the Warriors in
Game seven, but if Houston gets hot, I mean, man,
it could like, bro, pick an effing lane, man, what

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are you doing? Like, just just pick one and go
with it. And so fake argument guys started popping up
on social media after that game to where people were
sending stuff out like, uh, still doubting Lebron's greatness? Um No,
actually I wasn't. In fact, I don't know who was.
Nobody's ever doubted his greatness. He's actually fantastic. Like nobody

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has ever come out one time and said Lebron James
wasn't great. That's never been a discussion. Nobody's ever said
he was mediocre or below average or average or just
a really good player. Everybody's acknowledged he's great. But for
some reason it's turned and I really called the l
b ws al right, The LBWs are the Lebron ball washers.

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And there are many of those in sports media who
feel the need to go so over the top with
their praise of Lebron James, and it's disgusting. Here's a reality.
He's never gonna be your friend, He's never gonna sit
down and do an interview with you. You're never gonna
have a glass of wine with him. He's never gonna

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have you write the forward to his book. He's probably
never gonna jump on your show, and you and him
are never gonna ride on a banana boat together. That's
only him and his buddies. So save your breath for
the constant, over the top praise of Lebron James, like
he's been thrown out into the middle of the ocean
and you've got to save him with your floaty devices. Stop.

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The guy's great, He's fantastic. We all acknowledge that if
you watch ten seconds of Lebron James basketball, you can
watch and go, Wow, that guy's doing stuff that's never
been done before. He's really really good. In fact, he's
one of the all time greats. Like that should be enough,
right then and there, that should be enough. But for

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some reason people invent these thoughts in their eyes and
their minds and it becomes fake argument. Guy, you're basically
arguing a point that was never argued. Nobody ever said that.
I just like who you called a psycho? How dare
you say Lebron isn't great? The hell are you talking?
About man, I just what are you? What are you watching?
Just bizarre? Jonas Knocks Fox Sports Radio and for Doug

(17:48):
gott Leievier you can get me on Twitter at the
Jonas Knocks. Um. This has to be a disgust though,
because the one thing about Lebron James and I know
Boston fans aren't gonna like this. Boston fans kind of
have this US against them mentality, and the whole narrative
on Boston going into Game seven was well, yeah, I mean, look,

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they're on the road, they're just yeah, they're not. They
weren't too good this year, but it's because they're young.
And then when they get at home and they're undefeated
at home, and and the fact of the matter is
this isn't just a this year problem for Boston. If
you were to go back to two thousand and eight,
and this doesn't get brought up a lot, but in
two thousand eight, when the Celtics won that title. In
two thousand and eight, the Celtics lost every single road

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game until the Eastern Conference Finals. They opened up against
the eight seed Hawks, and the Celtics lost every single game.
In Atlanta, they played the Calves and Lebron James in
the second round. The Celtics lost every single road game
against Lebron James and the Calves. It wasn't until they
got to the Eastern Conference Finals and they played the

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Detroit Pistons that Boston actually a road game. And then
they went on to the finals and they beat the
Lakers in six and Blue Mountain Game six, and Boston
won the NBA Championship. But even that year, Boston was
three and nine in the postseason on the road. So
this was always an issue for Boston. It's happened before,
like we've seen this before, and that was a veteran team.

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I think there's something to where youth really showed up
for Boston. It wasn't so much on the road. I
think the road home split was more of it's so
good at home, and we're so comfortable here and we
have such an advantage at TD Bank North Garden that
we can't help but have a letdown when we go
someplace else. And I equated to and I was talking

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about it this weekend on Fox Sports Radio. I equated
to this. Everybody has slept in a different in a
different bed on vacation and you wake up and your
back hurts. It doesn't mean that that bed in the
hotel room in your nice resort or your hotel wherever
it is, is a worse bed than the one you
have at home. You're just so used to what you

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have at home that when you go on the road
it kind of feels uncomfortable. You know, if you drive
a rental car and the rental car you're not a
big fan of, it doesn't mean that that car is
not newer and in better condition than the car you're
used to. You're just not used to it, and so
you can't help but have a letdown. And I think
that's more of what Boston was dealing with with the
home road split, is it was more of a comfort level.

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They're so good at home because it's such an advantage
that you can't hope but not have an advantage when
you go on the road. How many years did we
hear about the Seattle Seahawks playing on the East Coast.
We heard that story for years until a couple of
years ago they started pinning stringing together some winds, and
now that narrative kind of died. Remember the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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For years when Tampa Bay would go on the road
in the postseason, it was, oh, man, I don't know
if these guys can play in uh in cold weather.
I mean when the temperature drops. Tampa Bay not the
same football team. It's not so much that they can't
play in cold weather or they're just so used to
the warm weather. Half that team probably grew up in
cold elements. If you play football, you play in the fall,

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in the winter, even in southern California. I remember playing
high school football. It was in the twenties and Semi Valley, California.
One night when we played a high school football game.
So you're dealing with the cold weather. But when you
come become so accustomed to playing in the warm weather
in Tampa, when you would go on the road late
in the year, maybe you would struggle. Where the youth

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showed up for Boston to me was in that game
because lebron knew how to manage the moment better than
they did. He just got it. He understood what he
was dealing with, and he played all forty eight minutes
and he looked more fresh than any Boston player on
the floor. That didn't mean that he was he just

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knew how to manage the moment better. So when people
are talking about well, young Boston and you know they
couldn't you know, they couldn't handle the environment on the road.
I think where the youth for the Celtics showed up
was in the final moments of that in the final
minutes of Game seven, where they couldn't muster the energy
because they didn't know how to manage the gas tank
when they got there. Jonas knocks him for Doug Gottlieb

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the world of sports. Tom Brokaw, who's doing updates. That's commended.
David Gascon from the Los Angeles what's up man? What's up?
Gas Man? It's going to be here. Man, You're you're
flying solo to it today. A little surprised by that,
but I leave that subject along. I leave that topic

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changed that for letter on tonight. I guess right, A
lot to get to today. I'm excited for this game seven. Tonight.
Western Conference Finals will conclude Gold State in the Houston Rockets.
Tip Off time will be at nine o'clock Eastern Rockets
Chris Paul He's gonna be a game time decision with
his bad hamstring. On the other side, Andre Iguodala is
listed as out. According to head coach Steve Kerr, he's

(23:14):
frustrated and if he could play, he would play, but
he just has not. His body has not responded to
this point. We're still hoping that over the next few days,
if we're able to win tonight, that that he will
make some improvement, but it just has has not gotten
where he needs to be. I definitely know you're excited
about the Stanley Cup Final beginning tonight as well, and

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since City Pluck drops at eight o'clock Eastern Vegas Golden
Nights and the Washington Capitals in game number one. Meanwhile,
in Major League Baseball, Great Burgess went yard on Justin Verlander.
It was a solo shot, though Astro still leading four
to one. J D. Davis his first home round the
season was a three run blast. James McCann a Grand
Slam for the Detroit Tigers the Angels five nothing, Red

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Sox all over the Blue Jays eight three. J D.
Martine in his his home run of the season for
the Red Sox. Nationals are clubbing the Orioles six to nothing.
Anthony Rendon, his six home run of the season, also
has three runs betted in Jonas back to you. Thanks
Dave Jonas stocks in for Doug Gottlieb here on Fox
Sports Radio. Rick Kamla is one of the best TV

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hosts and one of the best guests we have here
on Fox Sports Radio. Always a pleasure to talk to
Rick Campbell of NBA TV. You can get him on
Twitter at NBA TV. Rick, Rick, thanks so much, man,
I appreciate you popping on. Hey, Jonas, thanks to a
huge compliment. Man. You know I'm a big fan of
yours and shout out to the troops. Man. We're thinking
of you today for sure. Yeah, no doubt about it. Uh.
And I I outside of the compliment for me, I

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agree with everything you just said there. Um No, but Rick, Rick,
I wanted to I was talking about, um, this Lebron
versus Michael Jordan's debate that we're having here, and to me,
I think it's one of those things to where sometimes
you don't need an answer to a question. The fact
it's a question is enough. Like I wouldn't need if
my girlfriend said to me, listen, I'm not saying. If

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I asked her, hey, are you in love with somebody
else and she said, well, I don't know. I don't
need a yes or no from there, that gave me
enough of an answer to me. The fact that Michael
Jordan and Lebron are even being compared at this point,
shouldn't that be enough of an argument together? Because we're
never going to get a right answer on this. Yeah,
but everybody wants You're right, Jonas, But everybody wants it now.

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They want they want their coffee now, they want their
food now, they want everything right now. Uh. And that's
what this is. People are big Lebron fans. They've grown
up with him, they've seen his entire fifteen year career,
um and and so they think he's the greatest of
all time. But then you have old heads like me
who's forty eight, who you know, came up watching Magic

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and Bird and then into Jordan and the whole thing.
I mean, I've been watching hoops hardcourse since the nineteen eighties,
watching finals games off tape delay. I'm an old school hoopet.
Michael Jordan's is better than Lebron James. Uh and and
the resume is quite a bit better. Six rings to
three and uh I did radio earlier today, Um dude

(26:07):
that Uh well, I won't say the spot anyway, but
he was talking about you know, h he was talking
about eighth straight you know finals. No, you know, Jordan
never did that. I get that. That's fine. Jordan retied
he would have been eight straight uh finals had he not.
You know, let left the NBA for a second there.
But the bottom line is jonas Um, I think the
better debate is Michael Jordan versus Kareem ap Duel Jabar.

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We're talking goat um. Now, if you want to debate
Lebron James from out rushmore, I'll listen to that, but
I would not put him at this point. You're Michael
Jordan's uh rick haml NBA TV with us here on
Fox Sports Radio. I thought last night in that Game seven,
that Lebron it wasn't that he was good. I thought

(26:48):
he was really I thought he was brilliant in the
fact that he I could see at times during that
game that he was picking his spots on where to
conserve energy. Um when you're getting people forget the game
before where he I think he got dunked on or
he got a shot uh blocked by Marcus Smart at
the rim um the Terry Rogier block. There was a
lot of body in that and he couldn't even get

(27:09):
back on defense. Jayson Tatum posterized him there. He is
totally gassed. But I think he's been really smart about
conserving his energy and conserving his minutes. What when you
watched him last night, A lot of people are trying
to rank his performance and what this accomplishment means. What
did you notice most about him in that Game seven? Well,

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I mean it was it was actually really typical to me.
I mean, thirty five, fifteen and nine uh in an
elimination game, in a game seven scenario. That's what he does,
and he makes it look easy. That's what the grave
ones do. He deserves a ton of credit for that
stat line at Boston, right against the team that hadn't
lost yet in these playoffs, and he played every second

(27:51):
of the game. I mean, give him all of the
credit in the world man, But jonas, if Boston makes
shots last night, how does that game go? And I
as a different result. If Boston makes shots last night,
if Terry wrote, Marcus Morris has been clutched the entire
playoffs until it got to you know, bleep cutting time
in the fourth quarter and he shrunk, Rosier shrunk, Jalen

(28:14):
Brown and Jayson Tatum shrunk. To me, playoff in experiences,
why Boston lost that game last night? It does last
night's result change how he thinks about wanting to continue
to play in Cleveland? Or do you think it's already done?
He he knows he wants out. Great call. I had
some people over last night we were talking about that
I and it came up, you know where where where

(28:36):
will he go? And I said, if Lebron loses tonight,
the door is a jar open. Whatever you want to say.
If he goes back in the eighth straight trip to
the finals, you win the East again, You've got the
eighth pick in the draft, Trey young Uh coming up
here in a month or so. Um, so you're gonna
add a good player, get Younger, get Zippier at a

(28:57):
very important position. If they want to go that route. Um,
I'm gonna buy what you're selling. Jonas here on Memorial Day,
I think that the win last night virtually guaranteed the
Lebron goes nowhere. I'm with that. Rick Hamla, NBA TV
host with us Here on Fox Sports Radio, Jonas knocks
in for Doug Gottlieb. I want to transition over to
Boston quickly. UM. To me, if I were a free agent,

(29:21):
a guy looking for a one year prove a deal,
and I was looking for destinations, I don't know how
I could look past Boston because we know this about
Brad Stevens. You're gonna win, and he's gonna get guys
on proven deals paid. Evan Turner got paid, Kelly Olain
it got paid. Are they becoming slowly a destination not
because of location but because of Brad Stevens and what

(29:44):
he can give you? Oh yeah, I mean they they
have the best GM in basketball. Danny Ainge is the guy.
He's the guy. I mean just look look at the
look at the you know, uh, the litany of unbelievable
moves to move with the nets, you know, uh, trading
with with Philadelphia and and they get you know, move
up to get false and he gets the guy he

(30:05):
wants anyway, and Tatum he's a shrewd dude man. So
from from top on down, great ownership, great leadership, awesome coaching. Um,
you've got a top two or three coach. If you
want to talk to Steve Kirk Gregg pop bitch, Brad Stevens,
I'd extended a little bit to Rick Carlisle, Doc Rivers,
Eric Spoelster, guys like he's in that group. Um. And
obviously you've got a town that has head over heels

(30:25):
in love with this team that is fears um in
t D Garden and it's just an amazing home environment.
Why wouldn't you want to go play there? The only detractor,
Jonas would be playing time, because when when Kyrie is
healthy and Hayward is healthy, they're gonna have a nasty
eight depending on what they want to do with Marcus
Smart and if they got to let him go, then
they'll have a nasty seven. Um. And and so I

(30:48):
I don't know about playing time. I don't know where
where you fit in um as that free agent you're
talking about there, but certainly it's it's a very attractive
place to play. Rick hambla NBA TV host with us
here on Fox Sports Radio. How do you see Game
seven playing out tonight between Golden State and Houston. I
think Golden State wins it. I think the fact that
great job playing the igo dolla sound. I mean you

(31:09):
heard out down Curs. They're missing him significantly, Matt and
obviously Houston is gonna miss Chris Paul. I don't think
he's playing tonight. Jonah, Sorry for the buzz kill, but um,
when he was ruled out the day before Game six,
I was like, Ah, that that hamstrings jacked up. I
don't think he's gonna be able to come back in
this series. I think that's gonna play itself out tonight.
If he plays, he's gonna be dragging that leg around.

(31:31):
But I think Golden State wins man. I don't trust
James Harden in this situation. Um are talker and the
reason going to be making the blindfolded shots that they've
been making. Um? Is Eric Gordon going to have another
killer game? Like? I don't know. I would bet against it.
I think Golden State's gonna go in there and beaut him.
Which team gives Lebron the best chance for another ring?
I mean, which is the better batchup matchup for Lebron,

(31:53):
James and the CAZ great question, no question, it's the
Houston Rockets that they can't beat the Warriors. They can't.
The only way they beat him a couple of years
ago with Draymond Greene, you know, taking the shot to
Lebron's store getting suspended and Andrew Bokeett got truck by
j R. Smith and and ruined his neame was out
to me, that's the only reason that they won that series.

(32:14):
And Gymo credit they wanted. They brought a chip to
the land and all that great stuff, but they were
aided in that. And if you you know Cleveland fans,
then Jonas want to say, well, if if Kyrie doesn't bang,
these would play Thompson the game one of the previous year. Um,
we can play these games all day, but I will
take the four guys for Golden State over the one
superstar from Houston. Every time Rick Campbell, NBA TV host,

(32:36):
get him on Twitter at NBA TV. Rick always good stuff. Rick,
thanks so much, man, appreciate you popping on in a holiday.
Jonas my man, thanks for reaching out. Piece. Jonas knocks
in for Doug Gottlieb here on Fox Sports Rader. You
can listen to the show is always on the I
Heart Radio app as well, and you can get me
on Twitter at the Jonas Knocks coming up next. Um,

(32:57):
the media is trying to play tricks on you, all
right there, trying to play mind games with you in
regards to a star player. We'll tell you what to avoid.
That's next year on FSR Jonas Knocks and for Doug
Gottlieb here on Fox Sports Radio. A lot of angry
people listening on a holiday, Come on, man, enjoy the show,

(33:19):
have a few beers, then have a few more and listen.
Here's a little tip for people out there. And it's
very very simple, all right. This is a very very
easy strategy, and it's a it's just a reality of
what we've got, right. The more you drink, the better
ice sounds. So I mean, that's that's a problem solved.

(33:40):
So just drink more and you'll you'll like what you
hear better. That's it, all right. Um, So we do
something on the show here, and Doug does this every
single day on the show, and it's very very important
things and discussions that need to take place over a
myriad of topics in the world of sports, and it's
a little something called this the press for that we

(34:07):
turn it over to the gas man, David Gascon. We
should we should probably reference why Tom Broke I was
making an appearance on the show. First of all, we
don't have that kind of budget to get Tom Broke
on the show. And uh, and he wouldn't show up.
And I don't even think we would reach out to
And I don't know. I mean, have you ever technically

(34:28):
had someone produced one of your shows in book a guest? Well,
that's I mean, that is just shots fired by David Gascon,
a one of those David Gascon with a need of
the groin of Gavin Kinsel, our executive producer, who was
hustled and busted his ass. And by the way, the
fact that Gavin is doing this and he's been drinking

(34:48):
since six am, it's just impressive all the way around.
I mean, speaking of which too, because you mentioned you
mentioned a beer before the show started. What kind of
beer was that that you highly recommend? Okay, made West
It's only in um Ventor, like Ventura County area in
California out here, but made West pale ale good God,

(35:10):
it's a good beat. Right, yeah, yeah, it it did.
I can't drink like I used to. But uh, nonetheless.
But but the reason we play Tom Brokaw as one
of those drops is David's dad, Commander David Gascon was
part of the chief retired as chief. Right. Okay, you
say Tomato, I say, who cares? David Gascon's dad was

(35:35):
the chief of police for the l A p D.
When O. J. Simpson that whole thing was going on.
You know, you know that story way back in the
day when O. J. Like murdered two people, nearly decapitated
his wife. Um so he uh, he was the chief
of police, and so Tom Broke I had him on
as an interview. Thus it sounded like this, So you know,

(35:57):
we dig that up from the archives and it's Tom Broke.
I'm making an And here it is Jonas will stirt
things off in the NBA got a game seven tonight.
Western Conference Finals will finally conclude. But two guys might
be missing an action one for sure, Golden State Warriors
Andre Iguadala. He has listed us out for tonight's game.
He has not played since game number two. On the

(36:17):
other set of things, Rockets point, Chris Paul, he's listed
as a game time decision with a bad hamstring. Think
he plays, uh no, And if and if he does,
what the hell is he gonna be? Like it was
like when Kevin Love went out in Game six and
he didn't return to that game because he was in
concussion protocol. The fact that anybody was questioning whether or
not he was going to be available game seven. What

(36:40):
what have you not seen in sports lately as far
as concussions go. That was never gonna happen. He was
never gonna show back up in in game seven. I
don't think Chris Paul plays. Um, yeah, they're screwed. But look,
being out here in l A like, Chris Paul has
had really really awful luck when it comes to the playoffs.
He suffered a couple of injuries that have derailed playoff
runs for him when he was the Clippers and uh

(37:03):
and now with uh with with the Houston Rockets. So
I just think it's it's a formality. I think Houston
and probably win this game. And speaking of injuries on
the Eastern Conference side of things, the Boston Celtics for
a while, we're worthout. Gordon Hayward and also Kyrie Irving
if you do recall, yes, the reason why I bring
that up is to pay off your teeth. Because someone
had to ask Danny Ames this and he answered accordingly.

(37:25):
Okayrie had a septums that was called, yeah, like a
surgery DBA septum, had some surgery on that, and so
he wasn't Yes, yeah, so I don't think he see
he's a really good looking guys. Can't ruin his movie career. Yeah,
so people are trying to stir this up. I guess

(37:45):
one can say because he wasn't there on the bench
for the Boston Celtics and Game number seven. Someone really
asked him in the nose it's yeah, I know. It's
on the bottom of the shoe. Yeah. He he stepped
on a deviated septum on the bottom of his shoe
and they're trying to remove it as we speak. What
the hell is that? Like it's like coming up to
somebody saying, man, I think I I think I I
tore my a c L when you can have next surgery?

(38:08):
Well are you talking about That'll ask that um? Why
is this even a big deal? Like? So he had
he he had surgery for a deviated stuff. He wasn't
on the bench to watch his team get eliminated. It's
all what He's a bad teammate. Kevin Garnett when he
was injured the year after the Celtics won the title
and oh e he he heard his knee and was

(38:29):
out for the playoffs the following year. And that was
when Big Baby Davis had a big playoff run and
he end up getting paid for it. But Kevin Garnett
never played in the postseason, which is why they lost
to Orlando. Kevin Garnett at one point during the game
couldn't stand being on the bench so much that he
left and went back into the locker room. I didn't
see anybody call him out for that. That agenda driven media.

(38:50):
Come on, man, do better than that. You want to
promote something, promote one of my weekend overnight segments that
leads us to another. I shouldn't will live bet Jesus
making appearance tonight. And the reason why I ask, is
this Golden State on the road in a game seven
is not a four and a half point favorite line

(39:10):
has been pushed to five and a half and of
the public right now is on the road team now
Live bet. Jesus is a character that appears every Sunday
Night with Brady Quinn and myself. He bets on Live.
I've never met the guy. Just a piece of paper
falls down onto the desk. It's gotta bet on it.
He actually made an appearance on the show last night.
Do you know what what pick? He chose Celtics minus

(39:32):
four and a half. So currently I've met Jesus is
loitering for change outside the liquor store down the street
from here. He will not be making an appearance. Did
not go well for him last night. I would if
I had to, I mean, if I was into gambling,
and clearly I'm not. If I had to, and I will,
I would say Golden State would be the way I
would sign. On the press, Steve Curry, all right, Jonah

(39:59):
stocks it for Gottlieb here on Fox Sports Radio. I'm
gonna tell you who's fault. It really is a major
issue in sports that's next year on FSR. So there's
a weird thing that is happening with a really really
really really really good player, and I just don't want
you to fall into this. Don't fall for the trap.

(40:19):
I'll tell you what that is. Coming up here in
just a couple of minutes, Jonas knocks in for Doug
Gottlieb here on Fox Sports Radio. You can always listen
to the show on the I Heart Radio app on
all of our great affiliates wherever you are listening right now.
Taking a few minutes to your Memorial Day to be
a part of the program, we always appreciate it. Um. No,
it's a holiday, a lot of other things going on,
so we appreciate a few minutes of your time and

(40:41):
a happy Memorial Date everybody out there who is listening
or working or just hanging out and having some fun. Um,
all right, So I opened up the show with this
where this whole Lebron versus Jordan debate that everyone is having,
I don't I don't get it. I mean I understand
the DF. Well, you know, let's debate what's better, what,

(41:02):
you know, what's greater. We've been doing it, you know,
our whole lives. You know, like who would win King
Kong or Godzilla? And who would do this? Uh, you know,
if two animals fought, who would It's it's like the
whole debate thing. And so I understand that aspect of it.
But when you're talking about something that can't be decided.
You're never going to see those guys play each other,

(41:22):
so it can't be decided. Not only what the point,
what's the point, but what are we really discussing here?
I just think that, and I said this earlier that
I think there are certain questions that don't need to
be answered in order to be answered. Like I wouldn't
need my girlfriend to tell me whether or not she
loved some guy at or work more than she loved me.

(41:46):
The fact of the question, the fact that that's even
a question is an answer enough to where I'm like,
all right, I'm gonna go like that, Like I don't
need to stick around, uh to look at this. I
understand what's going on here. I'm gonna go. I'll pass
on on that old discussion all the way around. And so,
and it's like the gated community theory I have, Like

(42:06):
you know, who doesn't argue about who's got the better
front lawn or who's got the nicer house, or it's
the guys that live in a gated community next to
each other because they're both in the gated community. So
I even argue the point, you've won, you win, and
so I think the fact that Lebron James versus Michael
Jordan's is even a debate or even a question at
this point is enough of a win to where you

(42:29):
don't need an answer to get your answer. That he's
in the conversation, that he's in the same stratosphere as
Michael Jordan's after coming into the league with all those expectations,
to me, is a win enough for Lebron James. And
I wonder if there's a part of him that looks
at it that way, if he's satisfied enough that he
can look at it that way, because he clearly is
sensitive to the doubters. He always brings up the haters.

(42:51):
He always he hears everything, this whole zero Dark twenty
three crap that he tries to spew out every year.
I'm zero arc twenty three. I'm off social media for good.
And then two years ago, somebody catches him liking a
photo on Instagram of some girl twerking in a Pet
Boys parking lot, Like, come on, man, but is what
it was? Stop? I just stop. So that it's even

(43:15):
a conversation, I think is a good enough win for
Lebron James, and a big enough win that that he
should be, that should be satisfied. Not everybody's got a
run to the defense of Lebron James. He's fantastic. We
all acknowledge that. But here's here's the part of this whole.
Now that the Eastern Conference is done and the calves
of one again and Lebron's going to his eighth finals,

(43:35):
here's the part that that I am. I think it's
really interesting how we've come to this point. So this
whole uh, you know, Lebron James and the quote unquote
doing it with this roster, able to persevere with these
many shortcomings on his roster. This whole conversation is fascinating

(43:59):
to me. And here's why. If you went out on
a work night, I'm gonna give you an example. If
you went out on a work night and you got hammered,
but you came in the next day and you had
a great day at work, would your boss praise you
for your performance under difficult circumstances. Probably not. They'd say, hey,

(44:22):
great job next time. Why don't you not go to
happy hour and be an idiot? You performed well, but
you smelled like booze. Probably not a good look as
far as getting prepared to show up to work the
next day. All right, you know what I mean, Like
put the bottle down. You can do that on the weekend.
Don't come in here hungover. You got away with it
this time. You performed well. But that's enough. Like if
you had a bad relationship with your folks but you

(44:44):
still got them Christmas gifts, will they just say, you
know what, after all we've been through that you still
good for you. That's gonna erase everything you did to us.
I mean, you stole money from our account, you crashed
our car. Never don't even worry about it. Fact you
went out of your way to get us a gift
card to Applebee's good for you. We're all good here. No,

(45:06):
that wouldn't happen. Like you wouldn't reward somebody who put
themselves in a compromised position for surviving that compromised position,
you wouldn't reward him. And that's basically what we're doing
by rewarding and and and giving the compliments and the
praise to Lebron James for quote unquote doing it with

(45:26):
this roster, because guess what, he's the reason the roster
is what it is. That's on him. Think about it
this way, all the conversations you've heard, I did it
without Kyrie Irving. Hey, look at him, man, he didn't
need Kyrie Irving. Look, that was so impressive, the most

(45:48):
impressive performance of his career. The fact that he did
that without Kyrie Irving, that is just amazing. Why did
he have to do it without Kyrie Irving? Because he
was a pain in the ass, that's why. Because Kyrie
Irving didn't want to be around the circus anymore. Because
Kyrie Irving was tired of showing up and having it
Lebron James be a drama queen. He didn't want to

(46:09):
be around that anymore, so he left. So whose fault
is that? Lebron James. Now, they brought in a bunch
of those pieces from that trade, but none of those
guys worked out. And uh oh, man got all these pieces,
all these players, but none of them worked out, and
still Lebron James survived. Why didn't any of those pieces
work out? Lebron James is the leader on that team, right,

(46:31):
He's the guy. He's supposed to be the quote unquote
alpha male on that team. So why didn't Why didn't
any of that stuff work out Isaiah Thomas, the relationship
with Isaiah Thomas, Dwyane Wade was brought in, Jay Crowd
or all those guys. Why are they no longer there? Well,
because Lebron James. It didn't work out with Lebron and
it's Lebron's team, So again that's his fault. Yeah, but

(46:56):
I mean, look at the lineup he's got now, he's
got to rely on Tristan Thompson and j R. Smith
who are way overpaid. Why are Tristan Thompson and j R.
Smith way overpaid? Because Lebron James demanded they be way overpaid.
He's the guy that fought for them to get deals.
Good friend, good thing to do for your buddy. But

(47:18):
don't come around afterwards and say, man, he's having to
persevere through all this. He's the one to put him
in this position. You've even heard some people doubt Tylu.
Some people have said, man to Ron Lou, I don't
know what kind of coach he is. I mean, he
even got outsmarted by Brad Stevens because Brad Stevens didn't
put Semi Ojula in a game. And so that's why

(47:40):
he didn't counter with Kyle Corver in Game five, Man
the fact that Lebron's having to do all this with
that as a coach, man that speaks volumes about Lebron James.
Why is Tyler the coach? Because Lebron James didn't want
David Blatt anymore and he fought for Tyler to be
the guy and that was his dude. So on James
got him the job. Lebron James is the reason ty

(48:03):
Low is the head coach. So isn't that Lebron's fault? Like,
you can praise Lebron all you want for doing it
under quote such difficult circumstances, but these circumstances are difficult
because of Lebron James. He's the reason the roster is
what it is. He's the reason they're in the position

(48:24):
that they are. And if you're gonna get all the praise,
expect to get a lot of the criticism. But now
the narrative has gone from man, you know Lebron and
know that all this dysfunction, and there Jeez him him
being able to survive all of this dysfunction, Lebron James
being able to get through all of this to get
his team to another NBA championship. I gotta tell you, Nan,

(48:47):
I don't know if Michael Jordan would would be able
to pull that off. Well, I gotta tell you, I
don't know that Michael Jordan never played on a team
where he burned so many bridges that they had a
different GM, a different coach, multiple different lineups, and superstar
players who couldn't wait to get away from him. So,
if you want to have this conversation about what a

(49:07):
job Lebron James did by persevering in the moment with
all these difficult circumstances, be prepared to have this conversation
all the way through. The difference between that team last
year and that team this year is what Kyrie Irving? Okay,
So why would Kyrie Irving want to leave a team

(49:28):
who was a couple of games away from winning back
to back NBA championships. I mean, come on, like, like,
what's the common denominator here? David Black gone, Kyrie Irving gone,
brand new roster, brought in a complete overhaul at the
trade deadline. What's the common denominator here? Come on, it's

(49:48):
Lebron James. So don't sell me this whole man. He's
really fought through all the hard times and the struggles
to get to where he is. He's that's he's part
of it. He's the reason they are where they are.
And if you would have lost, or if he comes
up short in the NBA Finals, I don't want to
hear anybody give me the crap of Yeah, but if
you would have had one more star player with him,

(50:09):
it would have been a different NBA Finals. He did,
but he ran him out of town. Yeah, but if
he would have had a legitimate head coach at any
point during his career, I don't know he would have
gotten another title in Cleveland. Well he did, he had
to have another head coach, but he didn't like that guy.
He wanted a new one. So I mean, what are
we talking about here. I'm not gonna praise Like if
you show up to work, okay, if if you come

(50:32):
in and you're hungover, I'm not gonna tell you, man,
bang up job, appreciate you really fighting through it to
get here. No, put the bottle down, Like, put the
bottle down. I'm not gonna give you compliments because you
actually fought through your hangover to get in here. You
fought through adversity and had vomit on your shirt. So
I'm supposed to go, Man, unbelievable job you did there
that really like, you really showed me man way to

(50:54):
tough it out. No, put the bottle down. You're the
reason you're in that position. Appreciate what you did, but
I'm not gonna go over the top and ball wash
you because you were able to persevere through all this.
He put them in this position. They're in a compromise
position because of Lebron. James Jonas stocks him for Doug
Gottlieb here Fox Sports Radio. Uh, you can get me

(51:14):
on Twitter at the Jonas Knocks and you can listen
to the show is always on the I Heart Radio app.
Coming up next. Uh. Somebody in the NFL who shouldn't
be talking at all is another example of one of
the most overblown stories in recent NFL history. Find out
what that is next year on Fox Sports Radio. Jonas

(51:36):
knocks him for Doug Gottlieb here on Fox Sports Radio. Um,
so coming up here in just a couple of minutes,
there's all right, So somebody in the NFL is talking
they probably shouldn't be talking. I'll tell you who that
is next year on Fox Sports Radio. By the way,
people have chimed in on social media on Twitter at
the Jonas Knox on Twitter, big fans of fake argument

(52:00):
a guy and also fence guy John Ramos, huge fans
of a fake argument guy. And you know what, I
was talking to Gavin right now, I didn't hear what
you said. The start. Who's the fans of John Romos
is here? Everybody people on a social media are big
fans of a fake argument guy, and and fence guy
and the fake argument guy John Ramos put a put

(52:21):
a name to him. I guess you would call it
the straw man argument. Is that what somebody says, I
prefer fake argument or fake argument guy to where they'll respond,
They'll give a take in response to a criticism that
was never there, Like it's like having a conversation with
somebody that's not there. And so when I see these

(52:42):
people go on social media after game seven and they're like, hey,
all you Lebron haters out there, for those of you
that doubted his greatness, take a look who doubted his greatness? Man? Like,
who are you talking about? You're just you're making up
stories in your head. That's a schizophrenic fit. On social media,

(53:05):
like take your meds and go to bed, like you're
just making argument. Like no one's ever said Lebron James
wasn't great. I think it's very well known that Lebron
James was great. Also, Danny Ainge, this was another one
that that popped up on Twitter people who are, uh,
we're kind of entertained by this. Um, do we have
the Danny Ainge quotes about Kyrie Irving. So Danny Ainge

(53:28):
was at the press sort of the Celtics postseason wrap
up talking about things, and people were asking where Kyrie
Irving was because he wasn't on the bench. And here
was the back and forth between Danny Age and members
of the media. And I want to pay close attention.
It's positive real quick. Sorry about that. Uh, you know,
we can just edit that out in the podcast because

(53:48):
so many people will be listening to this podcast. Um,
so just pay close attention to the follow up in
the middle of this, when somebody asked a certain question.
Here it goes, Kayrie had a septums that was called yeah,
like a surgery and deva septum had some surgery on
that and so he wasn't Yes, yes, it's his lower

(54:12):
back good. Yeah, deviated septum. Yeah, that's right next to
the radiator hose. Yeah, that's it's under the hood. You'll
see it at next time you go in for an
oil change, you'll see that's where the deviated septim is.
What the hell is that? Right? All that like? Yeah, so, um,
Kyrie couldn't make it to the game. You know he

(54:34):
had a root canal that had to be performed. Is
that blow or above the elbow? No? Excuse me, No,
that's it's in your mouth. It's not anywhere close to
what you just like, what hell is that? Like? Who
doesn't know what a deviated septim is? I mean I
knew it after I looked it up, but still my research.

(54:56):
All right, Um, so there's somebody in the NFL. Jonas
knoxon for Doug Gottliepire on Fox Sports Radio, there's somebody
in the NFL that probably shouldn't be talking, right, Okay, So,
uh A guy came out, a former New England Patriot
came out, was some not so nice things. Um, this

(55:17):
gentleman said the following um that it's no fun playing
in New England. Didn't have a lot of fun. That's
why I requested. My release got a lot of feedback
on social media, many people upset with some of the
comments that it was no fun being in New England.
Um this guy, this mystery man. Uh followed up by saying,

(55:43):
I just want to address all you Patriots fans who
don't like the new article. I'm sorry to hurt your feelings.
Seems to be breaking your heart, but if you can't
handle the truth, stay off my page, don't read articles.
That's how I felt, that's how I still feel. And
I'm grateful to be away from there, grateful to be
where I'm at. Um. All right, So you're thinking to yourself, man,

(56:05):
who could it be? Could be Randy Moss? Could be
Randy Moss who finally spoke out against uh uh Bill
Belichick and and all those years in New England. Could
it be a Corey Dillon who spent a long time
there in New England? Um? I mean, who knows? Could
it be Aaron Hernandez who's finally speaking out against Bill
Belichick in the New England Patriots know as a matter

(56:25):
of fact, it is a current Fort Cassius marsh who
is speaking out. Yeah, Um, Connor McGregor, who is our
NFL Insider here at Fox Sports Radio, NFL reporter Connor McGregor,
your thoughts on Cassius Marsh. I have no idea either, Like,
who is this guy? And all of a sudden he's

(56:47):
speaking out about how bad it is in New England.
This is this is crazy to me, this whole, this
whole Patriots overreaction, this whole Patriots trash talk. It's things
are so bad in New England and they're only gonna
get worse. And you want to know how I know
things are so bad in New England that Tom Brady
didn't show up for O T A S. And and

(57:09):
they're upset about what happened with Malcolm Butler, and they're
so frustrated with being in New England. And Rob Gronkowski
might retire, and Gronks piste off of Bill Belichick. And
when you make Gronk mad, that's really saying something. And
Gronk wants nothing to do in New England so much
so that they're working on a new contract in New England.

(57:30):
I come on, man, how how much more can we
overreact to the New England Patriots dysfunction than we already are?
How how much more can this possibly go on before
we realize. The only reason we're doing this is because
we've never seen any of this in New England before.
That's the only reason why. You know who thinks fifty

(57:52):
degree weather is really really cold? People in South Beach,
they think fifty degree weather is really cold. That mean
it's really cold. No, they've just never seen it before.
So it's it's a shock to the system. Like you
know who thinks, uh, the sun is really really really bright.
The people that are listening to this show on the

(58:14):
I Heart radio app and some IGLU in Alaska right
now where they're an hour behind California time. Those people
that have twenty four hours where it either stays darker
once the sun comes out, it's craziness. They can't even
figure it out. And then there's other times during the
year where the sun's out all the time. Those guys
get freaked out by the moon. They don't know what
the hell that thing is. You want to know why,

(58:34):
because they're not used to it. This whole this whole
discussion about the patriots and the dysfunction and and it
goes back to that seth Wickersham article that came out
where the where the New England Patriots, and it was
Bill Belichick not getting along with Tom Brady's trainer, and
Bill Belichick and Brady kind of getting annoyed with each other,
and and everyone's sick of Bill Belichick's routine there. Man,

(58:57):
it was such a such a damning article. It was
so devastating to the organization. The fact that that article
came at it really shed a negative light on the organization,
so much so that they nearly won a Super Bowl
another one a month later, Like this is only because
we haven't seen it before, because we're not used to
what we're witnessing, that we're actually overreacting to what's happening

(59:20):
in New England. A lot of these are non stories, man,
they're non stories. But because it's the Patriots and we've
never seen a dent in the armor before, everyone wants
to assume it's a huge deal and a big problem.
Some of that stuff that came out in the Seth
Wickersham article. I mean the fact that people actually believe

(59:44):
some of that stuff. I'm not saying it's all lie.
I actually I think Seth Wickersham is a fantastic writer.
I think he's I think he's a great writer. He's
put together some really, really good pieces. But Seth Wickersham
in the article talked about how Jimmy Garoppolo got locked
out of the TB twelve headquarters, the t B twelve facility.
What do you mean was Jimmy Garoppolo ding dong ditching

(01:00:06):
all the other facilities in the area, and they're like,
we'll show him Jimmy garoppolos here, let's lock them out.
I got news for you. You think I like John Ramos, No,
but I didn't lock him out of the facility. He's
still here, has done it again like this, so so
much of this and like the comparison I always made.

(01:00:28):
And I gotta give credit to the guy who came
up with this because he said it's spot on. And
any time I see a reaction in sports like this,
anytime I see a reaction, I always go back to
this one because I think it's perfect. It's a perfect
analogy for this. Max Kellerman who does the HBO boxing
um analysis for HBO, he took over for Larry Merchant,

(01:00:49):
been there a long time and he's fantastic. Max Kellerman
is one of the best in the business. He always
says that when you're watching a fight and you see
the fight going a certain way, and one fighter is winning,
like the first eight rounds, clearly he's dominating the fight.
As a judge, if the other guy has a little
bit better of a ninth round, the tendency in your

(01:01:09):
mind is to give that guy the ninth round. But
the reality is that guy probably didn't win that ninth
round either. It just looked better than the previous eight,
So you just get tricked into thinking, oh, well, yeah,
you know, we'll go ahead and we'll give him the
round because it looks so much different. If he actually
went back and watched it and scored it round by
round and took that round and only scored that round alone,

(01:01:31):
clearly the same guy won. But you're not used to it,
so you tend to overreact and you score the round
for the other guy. It's exactly what's happening in with
New England. Cassius Marsh is talking about how bad it
was New England. I don't know I have the Cassius
Marsh could walk in here right now with an idea

(01:01:52):
that says I'm Cassius Marsh, and you know what Connor
McGregor would say. I don't know this guy is and
that's like a lead, that's like a top story. Nuts.
Plus we were sick to talk about Lebron to be honest.
Here all right, Jonas Knox and for Dug Gottlieb here
Fox Sports Radio. You can listen to the show as

(01:02:12):
well on the I Heart Radio app, and you can
also get me on Twitter at the Jonas Knox. Uh
coming up next. So I noticed something. This is this
is actually uh pretty amazing. All right. I noticed something
that we all grew up on. All right, we have
we grew up on something and it wasn't until I
saw it again that I realized how much sports has

(01:02:35):
actually changed. All right, So this is gonna be like
a blast from the past. So we'll get to that
next year on Fox Sports Radio. But for all the
latest from around the world of sports, The gas Man,
David Gascon, that's up, gas Man. I'm just going through
your Twitter account right now and going through all the
love messages. You get a lot of them. How about

(01:02:57):
this one? Uh, this this came in earlier. Let me
let me go, ima. Uh, here's this from this guy. Um,
you Lebron ball washer, why don't you get on your
knees and bleep him every minute like hosted Fox Sports Radio,
hosted Fox Sports Radio and a host Fox Sports Radio

(01:03:17):
which will remain nameless. Yeah, that that's a good one.
I can't retweet that happy memorial to everybody. Can't favorite that.
I think about that because imagine that guy's life that
because of a Lebron James opinion I had, he's equating
it to oral sex in the middle of the day.
What he's drinking? Yeah, I like so, I we'll retweet

(01:03:39):
as you've heard on Fox Sports Radio, Celtics minus four
and a half. Yeah, I bet jesus, oh that was
yesterday away. First of all, I can't speak for him.
He's a little bit of a gun slinger, I don't.
I mean, I don't know what you want me to do. Anyways,
Major League Baseball, this is one good way to trigger one.
Jonas knocks swung on hit hardly had all right, that

(01:04:00):
balls high, hurt us far hut us God, it's bye
bye Bertie, Mr right halc Hi there he is the
Birdman of New York Man the Yankees trail four one.
I think got beat five one. But how to get
that anywhere? John Sterling on the calls great because Justin
Verlander left this ball game in the seventh inning and

(01:04:23):
the fans were booing him. So what does he do?
He tips his cap to all the fans at Yankee Stadium.
Verlander picks up the W seven into this season at
five strikeouts in the ball game Ashros five, Yankees, one
National shutout the oriol six to nothing. Anthony rindna Is
six home run of the season. J D. Mortinez has
touched him all seventeen times this year for Boston. They
beat the Blue Jays eight to three, and that one

(01:04:45):
Tigers just mopped up the Angels nine to three. And
of course, in the NBA Game seven tonight at Houston Rockets,
scarred Chris Paul listened as a game time decision with
a bad hamstring. On the other set of things, Andre
Iguodala is out of tonight's ball game, is announced by
Steve Jonas. Back to you, thanks. Dave Jonas stocks him
for Doug Gottlieb here on Fox Sports Radio. Locking Jimmy

(01:05:07):
Garoppolo at a t B twelve one of the greatest
things I've heard. Hey, who's at the door. It's Garoppolo again.
Don't answer it. He's gonna do that dog crap in
a bag in a bag and lighted on fire. Trick.
We stepped in it last time. Whatever you do. Lock
Garoppolo out of TV twelve. God man like some stuff
people believe. Now that's Jimmy. Don't answer that. Hey we're

(01:05:30):
not here. Hey it's Garoppolo. We're not here. Come on, man.
I like Seth wicker Sham. But some of that stuff
in that article was nuts. All right, Um, okay, so
I did notice this. Also want to tease ahead a
little bit. In about twelve minutes from now here on
Fox Sports Radio, a world champion, alright, A world champion

(01:05:50):
has he actually has an idea about what Lebron James
is gonna do next, right, and it's something that a
lot of people haven't talked about it, and I actually
kind of buy it, all right, So stick around for that.
A world champion with an interesting idea on what he
thinks Lebron may do next, and it could shake up

(01:06:11):
all of sports. So that's coming up in about twelve
minutes from now here on Fox Sports Radio. Alright, So
anybody that knows me, I am a sucker for NFL
Films productions. If there's a production and it's got NFL
films attached to it. I will watch it. I I
love all of them. Um. As a kid, I can remember, uh,

(01:06:33):
if I would ever be out sick in school, or
if I was ever home and there was daytime programming.
Some people like to watch game shows, and I would
mix in a couple of games shows here and there.
Supermarket Sweep A big fan of Supermarket Sweep. I couldn't
figure out why everybody went for the honey baked ham
every time. Um. And then you start getting older and
you start shopping and you realize, oh, now I get it.

(01:06:55):
Now I understand because where I grew up, in the
family I was in, we didn't have a lot of money,
so there was no which box of cereal you want?
It was go down to the shelf and get the
bagged cereal. We're not eating honeynut cheerios. We're eating toasted
as all right. That's that's that's what we're Remember those
John toasted os they were terrible. Oh yeah, Coco ruts.

(01:07:17):
It's like when you wanted a pair of Oakley glasses,
you would go to a liquor store and it would
be Oky's. They would take the hell out like so,
So I just remember that growing up, and so I
would watch Supermarket Sweep, and I watched a lot of
NFL films, like the music everything, And I mean I
remember watching like some of the old vintage footage, like

(01:07:41):
knowing about all these players, reading about him. I was
a sucker for it. And to this day, any time
an NFL films documentary or a one hour special comes on,
like a Football Life, I've dv rd every single of
football life that I've ever seen that's ever been made.
D v rd all of them. Um, the timeline. The

(01:08:01):
timeline is one where they spend an hour and they
break down a moment in NFL history. They've done one
on the Fog Bowl between the Bears and the Eagles.
That was brilliant, Um, greatest show on turf, Brett Farve
returning to Green Bay, Like I mean they are, It's brilliant.
The ninety one Falcons, I want to say, is another
one they did. So anytime that there's one of those

(01:08:23):
NFL film documentaries the timeline of football, I've all of them.
The Lost Season, the eight four Scab teams and all
that or eighty seven whatever it was, all of that stuff,
I can't get enough of. And so this weekend during
the day, there wasn't a whole lot going on in sports.
UM there may have been a golf tournament that was
on UM, but I was not going to watch that

(01:08:47):
because I'm not a loser, so I was not going
to venture into that. I like to watch better programs
than that, like Total Bella's which I DVRD and watched
last night after I got home from work. And UM,
so the Erica's Game Marathon was on NFL Network, and
what they do is they take every single Super Bowl

(01:09:08):
team and they go from start to finish and they
do this whole marathon through Memorial Day weekend. And so
I just kind of had it on and I was
watching it. Got back from the gym and was doing
some things in the house, and it was just sort
of on the backgrounds. There was nothing else really going on.
And UM, a couple of things jumped out to me.

(01:09:28):
The difference in the violence of the game between the
early nineties and now is stunning fake, it is nuts. Man.
There was a scene where Jeff hoss Stetler in the
one season, or it might have been the nineties season.

(01:09:49):
I think that was the one that I wanted Jeff
hoss Stetler, who was the backup quarterback to fill Simms
with the Giants. Jeff hoss Stetler was sacked by I
forget the name of the guy, but a forty Niners
defensive lineman who was with the Giants before, and he
was sacked in that game, in the NFC Championship game,
and he's like, yeah, I felt this tingling sensation all

(01:10:12):
the way down to my toes. Nothing and that wouldn't
fly in today's NFL. And then they get to the
Super Bowl. They get to the Super Bowl and uh,
he says, yeah, He's all. I remember getting to the sidelines,
but I don't remember any of the conversations I was
having with the trainers. They opened up one of those
smelling capsules and they put it under my nose, and

(01:10:33):
I just remember going, oh, yeah, I kind of was foggy,
but I was like, Okay, I can now see clearly.
I think I can do this. I'm thinking to myself,
that's sure sounds like a concussion. Yeah, it probably wouldn't
fly in today's NFL either, Like this is the difference
in the violence. And that was And you watch some
of those highlights and you're like, man, uh, that would

(01:10:55):
be a flag, that would be another fifteen yards, that
would be a penalty. That guy might get ejected, that's
a concussion. He's out of the game. That guy is
no longer gonna play. They even had one of the Redskins.
This is how this is how much different. This is
how different the NFL is now. There was one of
the Redskins, and Redskins were talking about how the year

(01:11:19):
before and Joe Gibbs was the coach, and Joe Gibbs
has been on Fox Sports Radio before. He's one of
the nicest guys. And Joe Gibbs, the coach of the Redskins,
said his nightmare scenario played out the year before and
the year before they were playing in a game against
the Philadelphia Eagles, and it was in Philadelphia, might have

(01:11:40):
been a Monday night game, and they lost nine players
to injury in that game, players getting helped off, players
getting carded off. I mean, it was terrible. They named
that game the body bag game. Okay, like think about that,
Like imagine if that was the name of a game

(01:12:01):
that took place today in the NFL, a body bag game.
You know how many people would be outraged that you
would put a name to something like that, the body
bag game, like that was the name of an actual game.
Just imagine all of that going going on in today's NFL.
Just imagine any of that. And that's why the people

(01:12:23):
who grew up in that era get frustrated with today's game,
because you see a hit and it's fifteen yards and
you go, what the hell is that? I mean, in
the early nineties, they were naming games where guys got
injured called the body bag game. But nowadays, if you
if you even get pushed into a quarterback's leg from

(01:12:45):
behind or whatever, you might get flagged for it. And
it's like, I still enjoy the NFL. I will always
love the NFL. It's my favorite sport. I grew up
on it. I can watch all those documentaries, all of them,
and I'm totally fine if if that's the in flight
entertainment and it's between that in a movie and I
get to watch NFL films or a football I for

(01:13:06):
the timeline. I watched those on a flight across country
all anytime I'm on a flight, because I just I
love them. I love seeing the inside look. But going
back and noticing that from the early nineties, how violent
that game was, and how not only did the defensive
players welcome that violence, but the offensive players accepted it

(01:13:26):
was stunning. And that's why veterans now in the NFL, Okay,
guys that that grew up in that era of football,
Guys that grew up in the nineties, that are now
playing in the NFL, like you're in the middle or
latter part of your careers, You're now telling them that
whatever they grew up on and whatever they learned growing

(01:13:49):
up playing football is no longer accepted. This new helmet rule,
these new rules that they've ushered in, they may be
good for player safety, but the idea that officials next season,
with this new lowering the helmet rule and all the
other modifications they've made, that now officials can eject those players.
You're asking veteran players, guys that have learned a certain

(01:14:10):
type of football for twenty five thirty years, to all
of a sudden, in one offseason, in live time, when
they've got a makeup for speed and they're in the
middle of a game in a chaotic environment. You're telling them, hey,
if you don't actually put your helmet there you're gone
from the game looking at that and thinking about what
the new NFL is. That's a tough ask man. That

(01:14:31):
is crazy. Jonas Knox and for Doug Gottlip here Fox
Sports Radio. You can get me on Twitter at the
Jonas Knox coming up next year a world champion with
UH an interesting thought on Lebron james next move and
it could be something that shakes up the entire sports world.
We'll have that for you next day on FSR. Jonas

(01:14:51):
knocks in for Doug GOTTLIEBP here on Fox Sports Radio,
we are going to hear from a world champion who
has an interesting thought on the future of Lebron James
that that is actually there's something to it. If it happens,
it's gonna shake up the world of sports. So we're
gonna get to that here coming up, UH in just
a couple of minutes. UM, do you have some some
sad news to pass along? Um um of a passing

(01:15:14):
and UM this is this is really really difficult to
do and difficult to stay here on the air, but
it is something that I feel the need uh to
say here and to just sort of bear my soul
with you here on Fox Sports Radio. Um, it's the
passing of um of my deodorant. It left me earlier
in the hour and it is gone. I am profusely

(01:15:36):
sweating inside the studios here at Fox Sports Radio. I
normally work in the middle of the night, opposite hours
on Saturday in early Sunday mornings here on Fox Sports Radio.
I was not prepared for this thing called daylight. And uh,
my deodorant has left me. It is gone. So if
you do walk into this studio, it's the reason why
radio is the advantage today. For those of you that

(01:15:58):
do walk into this studio, I would uh, I would
try and hit up Laramie Tunsil or Reggie led Off
True Detective and see if they got an extra gas
mask lying around. Not a pretty thing happening here in
the studio, alright. Um. Jason Terry is a former world champion.

(01:16:18):
He was on The Herd with Colin Cowherd earlier today.
Doug does something here on the show every single day
here on Fox Sports Traded. It's something called this. Jason
Terry was speaking with Colin Cowherd earlier on The Herd
heard on many of these Fox Sports Radio affiliates, and
he had a thought about the future of Lebron James.

(01:16:41):
That actually kind of makes some sense. Here was Jason Terry.
Nobody they think I'm crazy, right, but nobody takes this perspective.
He's been to the finals eight straight times. He's been
in this league fifteen years and played at the highest level,
and he plays forty plus minutes a night over fifteen years.

(01:17:02):
He's at the pinnacle right now. He's had the greatest
season he's ever had in this league this season. Right statistically,
he might be ready to retire. He might be ready
to say bye bye because he's at the top. And
so when you're at the top, sometimes you need to
go out on top. And it's not that crazy, even
thought it really isn't, and I don't I could, I

(01:17:23):
could see that possibly be in the case for Lebron James.
Like if Lebron left and went someplace else, and again
that was Jason Terry World Champion on with the Herd
with Colin Coward earlier today. If Lebron left and went
somewhere else to go chase another title, wouldn't it kind
of feel a little water down at this point. I mean,

(01:17:45):
he's done it twice already, Like you're kind of taking
a big gamble because if he's going somewhere else, he's
going there to win a championship. So wouldn't it kind
of feel a little water down because if he left
to go somewhere else and he didn't win a title,
then what are we talking about? Now? He paired up
with this great team and he and he did this

(01:18:07):
and it didn't work out for Lebron James, and man, yeah,
he's definitely not in the MJ category now. To me,
I started thinking about how this season has progressed and
how this season has transpired for Lebron James. And he's
played every single game in the regular season. He's playing
forty six minutes in Game six against the Celtics, He's
playing forty eight minutes in Game seven against the Celtics,

(01:18:30):
and he's really trying to will his team. And I
think he's looking at this as a guilt free exit. Regardless,
he's looking at it as a guilt free exit. And
the one thing and the great equalizer to people who
are egomaniacs and Lebron as a massive ego and he
should is if you can make them feel guilty about something,

(01:18:52):
it's crushing. I think he always felt bad about the
way he left Cleveland, which is part of the reason
why he went back. You don't go back to that
place after you get trashed by your owner unless it's
because you feel like part of that exit was on you.
And to me, Lebron James is doing everything he had,

(01:19:13):
squeezing every last drop and every last effort that he's
got in his body this year because he wants to
be able to walk away from Cleveland and hold his
hands up and say I did the best I could.
I did everything I could. Hear the idea of him
retiring altogether and not going somewhere else where it might
water down his legacy. I don't think that's the craziest
idea in the world. So I'm with Jason Terry. I

(01:19:33):
think it is a legitimate possibility. Jonas knocks in for
Doug Gottlieb here on Fox Sports Radio. You can always
listen to the show on the I Heart Radio app,
and you can get me on Twitter at the Jonas
Knox uh Coming up next hour Fox Sports Radio, We're
gonna have some interesting comments made by a team on

(01:19:55):
the brink of winning an NBA championship, plus a lot
of excuses are me made for somebody in sports. I'll
tell you why that's crap coming up next year on FSR.
So the future for somebody in sports is looking pretty good,
but it's not for the reason you think it is.
I'll explain what that is coming up here in just
a couple of minutes. Jonas Knox in for Doug Gottlieb

(01:20:16):
here on Fox Sports Radio. You can always listen on
the I Heart Radio app on all of our great
Fox Sports Radio affiliates wherever you are right now. We
appreciate you taking a few minutes to your time to
be part of the show on this Memorial Day. Happy
Memorial Day to you and yours. Uh and uh and uh.
We're having a good time here. It's our three of
the program in for Doug Gottlieb here on Fox Sports Radio.

(01:20:39):
So um, we've been talking a lot about the performance
of the Calves, Lebron James in particular. Uh, and we've
been talking about that throughout the course of the show
and Lebron and what he did in Game seven and
he was brilliant. My My whole thing on opening the
show with was this whole Lebron versus Michael Jordan debate
who's better, who you got, Who's who better? It just

(01:21:01):
it wears me out. I don't care. I'll be honest
with you. I don't give a rip. I don't care
who's better Lebron James or Michael Jordan's. To me, these
are first world problems. They're both awesome, they're both great players.
The to me, the win for Lebron James is that
he's even in the discussion with Michael Jordan's. You know, like,
I don't need a firm answer to a question. Sometimes

(01:21:24):
the question is enough, right. The fact that we're asking
the question, is Lebron James as good, if not better
than Michael Jordan's, and it's a legitimate question. To me,
is enough for Lebron James. I don't like. From there,
we don't need anymore, right, I don't need Tiger Woods
demand more to say whether or not he's the greatest
golfer of all time. You either believe what you believe
or you don't. I'm not here to sway you one

(01:21:45):
way or the other. I just think these are first
world problems, okay. And the example I give is, look,
if you're talking to your wife and you feel like
there's something going on with a guy that she's working with,
and you say to her, Hey, who do you of more?
Me or him? And she says, well, I don't know.
She didn't really give you a firm answer. But I

(01:22:05):
don't think you need to stick around for a firm answer.
The fact that it's even a question means you should
probably get out of there. Okay, go go open a
tab somewhere and then think about your future. So this
whole Lebron Jordan debate, it just wears me out. It's tiresome,
it's boring. Uh, it's done way too much. I don't
want to get in on that. Um. So Lebron was fantastic.
I do know this. Lebron owns the Boston Celtics, right.

(01:22:27):
I'm sorry. I hate to break the news to Celtic
fans out there, people that are that are we're looking
forward to a potential Boston Celtic uh NBA Finals appearance.
I hate to break the news to you, but he
owns the Boston Celtics, right. It's just a fact. Um,
he didn't early on. He had to wait for Boston
to to get older and to sort of fade out

(01:22:50):
before he took over, and it looks like Boston is
going to have to wait until Lebron gets older and
fade out before they could take over. They had their opportunities.
You had a Game seven in the garden, you had
every chance, you had a three two series lead. The Celtics,
in the history of their franchise, had never lost a
playoff series when they were up to oh except for

(01:23:10):
Lebron James. He is renting a mansion inside your heads.
You know it, and I know it, and anybody who
watched that game knows it. Lebron owns the Boston Celtics.
It's just a reality at this point, Okay. But the
future in Boston is where the interesting discussion comes up, right,
this is this is where it becomes interesting. Now everyone

(01:23:33):
looks at this and they give the same old well,
you know, look at the future here is bright. Don't
worry about it. Um uh, They'll be fine. They're gonna
be back in this position next year. Yeah. Ask a
Dodger fans listening on the Great Am five seventy l
A Sports, the home of the Dodgers in Los Angeles
and southern California right now, ask them how they're feeling

(01:23:54):
about the Dodgers chances of going back to the World Series.
There is no guarantees. All right, when you're there, you
better cash in because you have no idea when you're
gonna get that opportunity again. So I don't necessarily uh
subscribe to that theory and that idea that don't worry
about it, you'll be back, uh stop, Like when you

(01:24:14):
get there, you gotta cash in. But the future does
look right for a couple of reasons. One, you've got
youth right, So the youth in Boston looks really really good.
Um to do what they did with the injuries was
really impressive, and a lot of those guys got big
time minutes in big time moments, and that could shape
the outcomes of their careers and it puts them in

(01:24:34):
a fast track to get better. I've always been one
of those people that you can tell me about something,
you can tell me how hard it is. I want
to be thrown into the fire. I don't want you
to tell me how difficult something's going to be or
what something is like. Throw me into the fire, sink
or swim. I always learned better that way trial and air.
I'd rather be in there and have to battle and

(01:24:55):
work for it than be on the outside and think
about what I would do if I ever got the chance,
boss and was in there. They battled. I think they're
gonna be better for it here, was Celtics side coach
Brad Stevens following the game. I feel just privileged to
be a part of it, just to be around these
guys every day, and I have a small role to play,
and everybody that has a role in our organization plays
it really well. And it's a lot of fun to
go to work every day and totally appreciative of the players.

(01:25:18):
They've been incredible all throughout our time here. This team
was the only team that I've been around at this
level that I thought we might shoot thirty and win
the game. Fun as it's been for a lot of guys,
it's been heart wrenching in some ways for those guys
because they haven't been to be able to be out
there on the court. So I think that they're going
to be really excited to get back with it. I

(01:25:38):
could take a couple of days to kind of get
away from it, but training can't. Can't some soon enough,
and those will be some Those will be some fun practices.
I'm pretty sure. So Brad Stevens already looking forward to
next year, and he should because we mentioned the youth
is there. You're you're set up. I mean, you've You've
hit on a couple of draft picks. So it looks good.
You've hit on several draft picks. It looks good in Boston.

(01:26:01):
Kyrie Irving is there, Gordon Hayward's there like you. You
have got a legitimate shot next year if everybody stays healthy. Okay,
so you've got the youth, You've also got outstanding talent
evaluation up top. You've got guys that find players in
the draft who can perform at a high level if

(01:26:22):
asked to and if needed to. And on top of that,
you've got the guy you just heard, Brad Stevens. But
here's the one thing that I don't know that anybody
is factored in, and it's what players around the league want.
If you're a player, what are the two most important
things to you in the league, in either particular order.

(01:26:44):
The two most important things to you if you're a
player in the NBA or in any sport, two most
important things wins and money. Where can I win the
most and can I get the most cash. Now, a
lot of times you can't get both of those, so
you'll sacrifice one to get the other. So if you're

(01:27:05):
a player around the NBA and you look at this
lineup and you go, I don't know who would replace who,
because you're looking at a starting lineup in Boston next
year potentially of Kyrie Irving, Jalen Jalen Brown. I mean
it could be Gordon Hayward, Jason Tatum, Al Horford and

(01:27:30):
Jalen Brown or I mean you know, you're looking at
this lineup and you go, Okay, who's We're like, who's out?
Okave Horford play center? And you've got Jayson Tatum, and
you've got Jalen Brown and Gordon Hayward and Kyrie Irving
and then you've got Marcus Mark coming off the bench.
Like like at some point, it almost looks like there's
too many guys, like like like what what are we? Like?

(01:27:51):
Like where does everybody get to play? But if you've
already got your starting five and you already know who
you're six best players on team are, You're gonna need
other guys to step in, right, So say you're a
veteran player around the league, right and you're looking to
get a big contract and you know that that big
time money may not be out there that offseason. What

(01:28:15):
are you gonna do. You're going to try and find
a place where you can go play for a year
on a prove it deal, and you're gonna put yourself
in position to try and make the most money next
off season. What coach around the NBA does has done
that more for players in the last couple of years
than Brad Stevens. Like, who's done it? Think about it.

(01:28:39):
Evan Turner got seventy million dollars. Okay, Evan Turner got
seventy million dollars. Kelly Olnik got a big time contract
from the Miami Heat. Avery Bradley is going to get
big time money. Isaiah Thomas is going to get big

(01:29:00):
time money. Jay Crowder got a big time contract after
he went to Boston. They didn't want to let him go,
and part of that was because in Brad Stephens system,
he flourished, He looked good. So players around the league
are looking at Brad Stevens and going, all right, I

(01:29:20):
may not be able to start, but I know I'm
gonna get some minutes. All right. Maybe I can't crack
the starting five, but I'm gonna get some minutes, and
if there's an injury, I know I'm definitely gonna get
some minutes. So I may not get that max contractor
close to that max contractor that big time money deal
this year, but I know if there's one place where

(01:29:41):
I can go and I can elevate my numbers and
I can get seen and be put in position to succeed,
in a position to get paid next year, and I
can win games in the time being, it's in Boston
with Brad Stevens, because look all the guys he's done
it for. Like some places have location as their advantage,

(01:30:01):
all right, Like South Beach, it's always going to be
an advantage. You take somebody on a trip in South
Beach and they're like, yeah, I think I want to
play here. Jim Laronega, who is the basketball coach from Miami,
I remember him being on Fox Sports Radio years ago
and Jim Laronega was saying how he's seen it where
parents have taken trips with their kids to look at

(01:30:25):
the school and to look at Miami as a possible destination,
and they were never going to go there. They just
wanted to go on vacation there, so they wanted to
check it out. That's called a recruiting advantage. That's an
advantage that you have, and if you can sell them
while they're there, even better. So South Beach is always
going to be an advantage, right, l A is always
going to be an advantage, outside of when Greg Monroe

(01:30:48):
came to l A on a on a visit and
decided that he would rather go to Milwaukee than see
palm trees. He'd rather go to where Jeffrey Dahm or
dismembered people and put him in his freezer. I mean
that that was that was kind of a loss for
the l A Laker organization. But will forget all that.
So certain places have location advantages. In Boston, if you
go to Boston, you're gonna get win games, and if

(01:31:10):
you're not going to get paid there, you're gonna get
paid somewhere because that's what Brad Stevens put you in
position to do. He did it for Kelly Olinik, he
did it for Evan Turner, he did it for Isaiah Thomas.
Think about Isaiah Thomas. All he has done all postseason
is speak glowingly about Brad Stevens. He has come out

(01:31:30):
and he's defended Brad Stevens. He's defended him in the
Coach of the Year vote, he defended him after where
he talked about the best coach in the NBA. He's
number one. It's not even close. And that's a guy
who was traded away from that organization after he played hurt,
lost millions and millions of dollars, after playing like damaged goods,

(01:31:55):
following the passing of his sister, and they traded him away.
And all he does is talk about how great Brad
Stevens is. Like he they have got an advantage in Boston.
So when you hear all the futures, bright look, destination
is one thing. But if I'm looking around the NBA
and I'm a veteran player who's looking for a big
money deal, and if I can't get it this year,

(01:32:17):
I know where I can get it two years from now.
And it's what the guy that's gonna put me in
the position to do so, And I think that's Brad
Stevens in Boston. Uh Jonas knocks in for Doug Gottlieb
here Fox Sports Radio. You can listen to the show
on the I Heart Radio app. You can also find
me on Twitter at the Jonas Knocks. Coming up next,
this is uh, this sounds like a gimmick. All right,

(01:32:39):
this sounds like a gimmick. Um, there's there's a major
problem in the NFL, but this idea, as crazy as
it sounds, may actually fix it and make everybody happy.
Find out what we're talking about next on fs are
Jonas Knocks and for Doug Gottlieb here Fox Sports Radio.
Happy memorial data. Everybody uh taking part in the show.

(01:33:01):
We appreciate it. Um. Coming up in about actually less
than ten minutes from now here on Fox Sports Radio,
We're gonna have an insider here, somebody with direct knowledge
of a current situation. Um, there is uh some concerns,
possible concerns about a great player, so we'll get to
that here coming up less than ten minutes from now

(01:33:22):
here on Fox Sports Radio with our insider who will
be joining us. UM. I did think this was funny,
so first let me ask you, Let me ask you
guys this all right, Gavin Kinsell, John Ramos, David gascon
Or all here with me, uh filling in on the
Doug gott Leap Show. Here, how many Houston Rockets fans,
do you think have the following tweet saved in their drafts? Yeah, well,

(01:33:50):
tough to beat him without our best player. How many
how many of those you think are saved in Houston
Rockets fans drafts? As we as we get ready for
a game seven tonight, come on, I am so tired
of this, this discussion about well so and so got lucky.
This guy got lucky. You know, the Golden State Warriors

(01:34:11):
are lucky to be where they are. Man, they lucked out. Man,
of course another injury, Golden State looks out again. Shut up.
Go through any champion in any sport, any year, and
you can go back through the course of a season,
and you can go back in time and you can
find a play or several plays, or a moment in

(01:34:32):
which they got a break that somebody else didn't get.
You need breaks to have success. Like it's I always
say people talk about, man, just keep working hard, Just
keep working hard, and good things are gonna happen. You
know what also helps when you work really hard, when
you meet someone who's got a connection somewhere, that really
helps out too. Like a lot of people work really

(01:34:55):
hard in their profession and they bust their ass and
they achieve a lot of things, and they are hard workers.
But unless somebody knows somebody and they have a conversation
with somebody and they're in the right place at the
right time, they're probably not going to get those opportunities.
And that's just the harsh reality of things. So when
people talk about Golden State always catching a break, always

(01:35:16):
doing this, listen, uh. Steph Curry was a draft pick,
Clay Thompson was a draft pick. Draymond Green was a
draft pick. Andre Iguodala was a signing that nobody else wanted.
Um Sean Livingston's leg almost fell off in l A
several years ago. Nobody wanted him, and they signed him.
Um Kevin Durant was the only big time free agent

(01:35:38):
that they landed, only big time free agent that they
have landed, and part of the reason they landed him
is because of how they ran and operated their organization
in drafting those players and developing this. They've changed basketball.
The NBA is completely changed because of the Golden State Warriors.
You can bitch and moan about it and say it's

(01:35:58):
not quality basketball you and rip the three point shot
all you want, but reality is that's what the NBA
is now and it's because of them, Like they've had
nothing but a positive impact on basketball. The fact they
signed Kevin Durant. So what the guy decided he wanted
to go play in that system and that was better
for him, Big deal? Like who cares? But I don't

(01:36:22):
want to hear this, and I don't want Warrior Rockets
fans after the game if they lose this game to go.
Kind of tough to win when your best players. Out
of course Golden Steak gets lucky again. Go through Like
you want to talk about this. I've said this before.
I was talking about this weekend on Fox Sports Radio.
Go through almost all of tom Brady Super Bowls? Right,

(01:36:43):
you want to go through all of tom Brady Super Bowls? Uh?
The path to get to the Super Bowls? Anybody remember
the Tuck Rule game? That one sure went tom Brady's way? Right?
What about the fact that Tom Brady there was a
blown coverage on that drive against the Rams that set
up his first Super Bowl win? When Adam Vinitary made
that kick. What about John Casey kicking the ball out

(01:37:06):
of bounds for the Carolina Panthers. What about Julian Edelman
making that juggling catch against the Atlanta Falcons, like there
are several instances. There are several instances all the way
throughout tom Brady's career, in almost every single one of
his Super Bowls, where you look at it and go, man,
if that goes one way or the other, I mean,
what are we talking about here. Doesn't mean he's not great.

(01:37:29):
He's fantastic. He's the best quarterback of all time. But
he needed a break. He needed things to go his
way in order to win those games. I mean the
Seahawks throwing at the goal line that kind of went
tom Brady's way? Right, Does that diminish what tom Brady
has done? No, he needed a break to go his way.

(01:37:49):
If you if you're driving around and in a few
minutes from now, you get stuck in traffic, and it's
because a car three cars ahead of you slammed into
the back of another car. Guess what's that. Guess what
that's called. That's called a break that went your way,
because maybe if you would have left the house four
seconds earlier, you would have been one of those cars
in the collision. We all get breaks, So Golden State,

(01:38:10):
Chris Paul got injured. Tough balls. That's that's that's the deal,
Like who's healthiest? Like, you know, you shouldn't dot Golden
State because Chris Paul's injured. Give me a break. Jonah
stocks In for Doug Gottlieber, Fox Sports Radio. All right,
so we were talking the last hour on the show.
I was watching this thing. So they were doing this

(01:38:31):
this marathon, uh during the during the weekend, and it
was called America's Game, And so they did a Memorial
Day weekend and basically what America's Game is on on
the NFL network, they chronicle. They spent an hour in
the chronicle every single Super Bowl champion and the season
and the drama and the storylines have got him there.

(01:38:51):
And the one thing that stood out to me because
I was watching some of the years from the early nineties,
is just the difference in violence between then and now.
It's crazy. Um. Multiple times Jeff Hostetler talked about not
being able to see the trainers when he spoke to him,

(01:39:12):
A tingling sensation all the way down his body. Yeah,
that's called a concussion. You're gonna go ahead and set
this one out. Troy Aikman in a playoff game, talking
about not remembering anything that happened following a certain play
but went back into the game. Yeah, that's called a concussion.
That wouldn't happen nowadays. Uh. There was a reference to
the body bag game where the Philadelphia Eagles ended up

(01:39:35):
injuring nine Washington Redskins and I think a Monday night
game and it was dubbed the body bag Game. None
of that would happen now. That would all be fifteen
yard penalties. Finds. Uh. Even the the joking around of
a body bag game would have been ridiculed and criticized.
You don't care about ct all this stuff. So we're

(01:39:55):
talking about how just the difference in that and so
now when they're trying to implement all these rules, why
a lot of people who grew up in that era
get frustrated is because we remember what real violent football
was like. It's still violent, but some of the stuff
that is being penalized now is crazy comparatively speaking to
all those The other one is the kickoff. They're trying
to do all these things to the kickoff and now
the three man wedge, and they've made so many changes

(01:40:17):
to it you don't know which way is up, Like
you know what, what is right, what is wrong? And
I'm telling you, man, the team that's got a point,
they've got an idea and it's kookie, and it sounds
like a gimmick, but it makes a lot of sense
if you actually think about the problems in the NFL,
especially on the kickoff. Is the Baltimore Ravens. They've been

(01:40:39):
on this two year campaign where the Ravens have said,
what about if a team who kicks off and makes
it through the opponent's upright gets an extra point? Now
you gotta look at where it's coming from. The Baltimore
Ravens have the best kicker in football. The Baltimore Ravens
also have Joe Flacco. They need all the points they
can get. Okay, so the idea is, well, you know

(01:41:02):
that's a little self serving. Justin Tucker is fantastic. Okay,
But if you actually think about it, remember when they
moved the extra point back. I hated it because I
grew up on the extra point, always being at the
ten yard line. Who care if it's not exciting, It's
part of football. But when they moved it back, guess
what happened to the extra point? All of a sudden
that's an exciting game, are an exciting play. You're no

(01:41:24):
longer running to go grab a beer. You're waiting to
see whether or not he shanks it. It gets blocked.
Crazy things have happened with the extra point. It's made
that throw away play exciting. If you want to a
limit the number of collisions in a kickoff but still
keep the kickoff, this is the best way to do it.

(01:41:45):
It seems crazy. I hated it a year ago. I've
come around full circle on it. I think it's a
great idea the NFL because the kickoff is so much
part of the vernacular. The NFL is never going to
get rid of it. It's never going anywhere. Okay, It's
like if they got rid of the opening tip in basketball,
what would you call it? Hey, when's tip off? It's

(01:42:07):
part of the vernacular. When they drop the puck in hockey,
that's to signal the start of the game. You're never
gonna get rid of it because when did they drop
the puck is part of the vernacular. In football, what
time is kickoff is part of the vernacular. So if
you want to keep that part of vernacular, because it's
so associated with the game of football, and still make

(01:42:30):
it a safer play. Why not reward teams who kick
it through the uprights if you want to penalize them
for not making it, that's fine. But as crazy and
kookie of an idea as it is, I was thinking
about it all weekend. I've heard worse. I don't think
it's the worst idea in the world. Jonas Knocks in
for Dug Gotli per Fox Sports Radio. You can listen
to the show on the I Heart Radio app and

(01:42:51):
you can get me on Twitter at the Jonas Knocks
coming up next. So there's a story out there regarding
one of the best players in the world. Um, and
it may not be good news. So we're gonna find
out from somebody who was there, who who heard about
the information, one of the first to hear it. He
is going to join you next year on Fox Sports Radio.
But for all the latest from around the world of sports.

(01:43:12):
Tom Brokaw, who's on the updates today's David gascon from
the One Last Time, Let's go around right now? Game
seven tonight Golden State and the Houston Rockets. One guy
that might be available Rockets point guard Chris Paul. He's
listed as a game time decision, got a bad hamstring.
But another guy that is out andre Igwoodala. Here's Steve Kerry.

(01:43:33):
He's frustrated and if he could play, he would play,
but he just has not. His body has not responded
to this point. We're still hoping that over the next
few days, if we're able to win tonight, that that
he will make some improvement, but it just has has
not gotten where he needs to be. I Meanwhile, Kavlier
Celtics games seven yesterday pulled a nine point one rating overnight,

(01:43:56):
second largest NBA overnight ever mark, matching the two thousand
of Lebron Miami Heat came seven against the Boston Celtics. Meanwhile,
in Major League Baseball, Red Sox took care of the
Blue Jays today eight to three. J D. Martinez Is
seventeenth home run the season and a couple of runs
batted him. Astro's got the better of the Yankees five
to one. Justin Verlander picked up the w at five

(01:44:17):
strikeouts in six and two thirds innings. He's seven and
two this year. Tiggers tripled up the Angels nine to three,
Brewers eight, Cardinals three, and the Cuvees shut out the
Pirates seven and nothing. Mike Montgomery had five case and
just five and two thirds innings. Anthony Rizzo seventh home
run of the season. Jonas thanks Dave Jonas Knox in
for Doug Gottlieb here on Fox Sports Radio. Um, coming

(01:44:39):
up in about fifteen minutes from now here on fs
are we are going to have a very bizarre story
for a mistaken identity and mistaken identity story. You do
not want to miss. That's coming up about fifteen minutes
from now here on Fox Sports Radio. Right now. Chris
Mannix Yahoo Sports, NBA Insideer. You hear him every single
Sunday from noon to three Eastern time with Karen Butler
here on Fox Sports Radio, is kind enough to join us. Chris,

(01:45:01):
thanks so much for a few minutes your time, Man,
No problem. Um. So you so we heard Danny Ainge's
postseason press conference and and it was sort of the
season wrap up and he was talking about several things.
Can you give a little more information on the Kyrie
Irving Kyrie Irving deviated septum or surgery that he had
that was sort of thrown around on Twitter. Well, you

(01:45:23):
know I was there earlier today, Um, when Danny spoke
and you know Tyree was noticeably absent from the Celtics
bench in Game seven. I don't think anyone had a
chance to to ask about it after the game, but
it certainly came up today and apparently there was some
kind of of of nose procedure um that was you know, inconsequential,

(01:45:46):
and I confirmed this with a couple of people with
the team, But it was inconsequential. But the issue with
Kyrie was that I think he had to either wear
some kind of bandage on his face or it was
something that that that wasn'tssarily aesthetically appealing. So I think
he was elected not to to be there the you know.
What I was also told was that this he had

(01:46:06):
this procedure, I believe after Game two, so he also
wasn't there for Game five. Nobody just seemed to notice.
It was the fact that it was Game seven that
that people took notice. So it was not something that
was significant, but from what I was told, um just
something that he didn't want to be you know, kind
of on camera or in public with Yeah, it almost

(01:46:27):
seems like they made a much bigger deal out of
than it really was. Almost like, oh, Kyrie, no, should
I remember Kevin Garnett the year he was injured after
they won the finals, when Glenn Davis had the big
playoff run and they went to seven with Orlando. I
remember seeing at one point Garnett left the bench because
he couldn't stand being on the sideline and not in
the game. And I don't recall that getting a lot
of a lot of headlines. Well, I mean it was

(01:46:48):
a little different with KG. I mean KG was, you know,
pretty consistently rarely on the bench when the team was playing,
and he was hurt. He just he just not wired
that way. He just a different guy that that really
struggled with controlling his emotions, you know, being on that bench.
But he was always there. Um what he wasn't there,
He was watching the games in the back in and

(01:47:11):
doing that. This was just different the sense that we
didn't see I don't think that Kyrie was in the
building last night, So it was it was unusual to
UH to deal with at the time. Chris Mannix Yahoo Sports,
Fox Sports Radio host with us here on Fox Sports Radio,
Jonas snocks him for Doug Gottlieb. You've been around the
Celtics team, the organization for a long long time. What

(01:47:32):
went wrong for them last night? Outside of Lebron being great?
What was the real issue from the team you've watched
all year and the team that came out in the
second half of that game. I mean, look, I think
they played young, and they hadn't done that up until
this point. But there's a reason throughout the course of
NBA history that young teams led by first and second

(01:47:54):
year or third year guys, uh don't succeed in their
their first run through the playoffs because they're prone to
you know, getting anxious and key moments. They're prone to
mistakes that they won't make when they're older. You saw
this from Ben Simmons in the first round of the
second round with with Philadelphia, some of the mistakes he
made h in the second half, you know, going up
against you know, our could be the greatest player of

(01:48:14):
all time. Uh. You know, the the rim just looked
like the size of a symbol out there. I mean
Terry Rozier, who was an incredibly confident player, couldn't make
anything over ten from three. H. Jalen Brown, who you
know started off this series really well but has kind
of a nightmarish finish to it. Uh. He couldn't make anything.
I mean, Boston's three point shooting killed it, and you know,
they just couldn't find any type of rhythm offensively. I mean,

(01:48:36):
I think it just really kind of boils down to that.
I mean that that young players in in the biggest
possible stage against a great, great player, they just you know, failed,
And you know that happens from time to time. What's
this roster gonna look like next year? You know, Danny's
not gonna you know, he's not gonna avoid looking for

(01:48:57):
ways to upgrade the roster. And I think one thing
that has to be taken into account is that, you know,
this is going to be an extremely pricey roster in
years to come. I mean, you've already got you know,
basically three max guys on the roster, and you can
project out over the next few years that Tatum and
Brown are probably gonna be Max guys. You've got Marcus
Smart this summer, who's restricted free agent wants you know,

(01:49:19):
twelve million plus on a deal. So I think that,
you know, being proactive is probably something that will that
Boston will do. At the same time, you know, I
think they like the idea of coming to training camp
with you know, basically you know two lines of successful players.
I mean you can throw a first unit out headline
by Kyrie Irving and Gordon Hayward, and you could have
a second unit headline by Tera Roseier and maybe Jaylen Brown.

(01:49:41):
So you know they have the chance to to to
really put together a terrific offensive team. Uh, come training
camp in the fall. Chris mannix Yah, who sports NBA
insider Fox Sports radio host. You hear Chris with Karen
Butler every Sunday twelve to three Eastern time here on
Fox Sports Radios with us here on FSR. Jonas knocks
him for Doug gottlieb Um. I was saying this about

(01:50:02):
Lebron James earlier that I think there's certain questions that
don't need answers, the fact that their question should be enough.
So this whole Lebron versus Michael Jordan debate, and listen,
I know you get a beating every time you go
on First Things First with Nick Right. I love Nick Right,
but Jesus man um and so it's all about Lebron,
and everybody is so adamant on which side of the

(01:50:23):
fence there on. You've watched Lebron throughout the course of
his career. You've been covering the NBA for a long
long time. Isn't the fact that a guy who was
this hyped up coming into the league is even in
the conversation and it's a real conversation. Shouldn't that be
enough for everybody at this point? Well, I mean it,
it's one of the great you know, basketball debates. So

(01:50:46):
I don't think it's ever going to be enough. And
and what Lebron does in this final certainly will kick
start that debate in in one way or the other. Um,
I will say this, and I wrote this last night.
I mean, it is kind of foolish to have this
debate now for no other reason than Lebron's not done.
You know, he's thirty three years old, and you know,
still looks like he's at the peak of his powers.

(01:51:07):
And you know, I asked tylu this last night about
where he ranked Lebron's Game seven performance against Boston. The
first thing he said was he was the best he's
ever seen. And then he you know, pivoted and kind
of you know, made the parallel Games seven again in
two thousands sixteen against Golden State when when they won
that series, so I mean, he's still put it together
incredible performances, and you know, maybe he loses in the

(01:51:28):
finals this year, maybe he goes to you know, Houston
next year or Philadelphia and went up winning two more championships.
I don't know. I mean, you know, the only thing
that that we can say now with certainty is that
you know, Jordan will always have that perfect record in
the finals, and there's a pretty good chance that Lebron
matches Um. You know Jordan's number of finals wins with
final losses. Um, do you hold that against him? I

(01:51:49):
personally don't, but you know some people do, and and
that's created kind of a debate. But I think this
entire debate should probably be shelled until Lebron decides to
call it a career. Chris mannis the last one before
I let you go Game seven tonight, Warriors and Rockets.
What's the better matchup for Lebron, James and the Calves
moving forward? I mean, I would say Houston because you know,

(01:52:09):
Houston's got to play one of the best players, and
Chris Paul was hobbled right now, and you know, they're
inexperience and they certainly lacked the firepower that that Golden
State has, so I would think Houston's a far better matchup.
I don't expect that to happen, though, you know, and
I don't know what happens to Chris Paul tonight. I
don't know what the latest is with that, necessarily, but
even if he tried to give it a go, I
wouldn't imagine it goes very well. You just you gotta

(01:52:31):
be able to defend to stay in an NBA game,
especially the NBA playoff game, especially a game seven in
in the conference finals. And I can't imagine Chris Paul
coming off that type of injury being able to defend anybody.
So not only do I expect Golden State to win,
but you know, unless things really malfunction for them offensively,
I think they'll roll. He's one of the best in
the business. Chris mannix Yahoo Sports NBA Insider. You hear

(01:52:53):
him every single Sunday from noon to three pm Eastern
Time with Karen Butler here on Fox Sports Rading. Make
sure you get him on Twitter at Chris Mann x
y S. Chris, thanks for a few minutes your time. Man,
Always appreciate it. Problem Jonas knocks in for Doug Gottlieper
on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next year on fs ARE.
It is one of the more bizarre mistaken identity stories

(01:53:14):
you will ever hear. That's next on Fox Sports Radio.
Jonas knocks in for Doug Gottlieb here on fs ARE.
UM coming up in about thirteen minutes from now Top
of the Hour, which is a radio term for six
pm Eastern Time, three o'clock Pacific, two o'clock in Alaska,

(01:53:35):
and noon in Honolulu. Steve Gorman Sports with Steve and
Jeffrey Gorman. If it doesn't for whatever reason, not on
your local affilate, you can find those guys on the
I Heart Radio app. Just click Listen Live and you
can check out the Gorman's coming up about thirteen minutes
from now here on Fox Sports Radio. Curious to see
UM what scam Jeffrey Gorman has pulled off during the weekend?

(01:53:58):
Usually there's something uh He's Usually he usually got some scam,
some some pyramid scam. He is wrangling together here because
I was caught in several of those the only time
I ever saw him in person. Unbelievable. Just removed my
heart from my chest and I could do nothing about it.
So those guys are coming up. Make sure you stick
around for that here on Fox Sports Radio right now

(01:54:19):
though it is time. How could you not get to
these stories? Are the scraps. These are a couple of
stories we have not had the chance to get to
yet here on the show. And for that we turn
it over to the gas Man himself, David Gascon. Twelve

(01:54:42):
minutes away from six am in Hong Kong. I'm booking.
I'm booking a trip to the East Coast. I'm going
to South Carolina. I know you've had some interesting times
down there, in particular as a as a former p
A right, oh man, alright, well technically all right, so

(01:55:02):
here's all right, South Carolina Stingrays minor league hockey team
in Charleston, South Carolina. Yeah, a couple of moments. I
was part of a local morning show there, morning show,
trust me, I don't know what those are. Morning show
in in South Carolina, and I got invited to well,

(01:55:25):
it was two dollar beer night and it was market
eighty three, and I had no money. So for two
bocks of beer, you bring a twenty dollar bill in
and by the end of the first period you're walking
around on your hands on the ice. You're bombed. You
have no idea. What's like. Somebody calls you and you
answer your shoe, you have no idea, You're you're grabbing things.
You're just bombed. And so they tell us, hey, uh uh.

(01:55:47):
The play by play announcer wants to have you, guys
up in the booth, up in the booth there was
no booth. Wants to have you over there in the
media section. He wants to talk a little bit with
you about the first period. No problem. We go over there.
The guys start asking me hard hitting hockey questions about
the sting Rays. Think to myself, Man, I can barely
get a word out. I'm bombed, Like, what do you

(01:56:07):
want me to do? So I just gave like a
bunch of garbage, basic answer, all generic answers. Um The
other story to that, if you go to South Carolina,
they asked me to be the p A announcer for
a game and where it was public address announcer. You
do the lineups and all that stuff, and the other
guy was called out to do some holiday tournament for

(01:56:29):
something basketball game or something. So I get there and
I'm going through and you read the commercials and all
that stuff, and the guy says to me, all right, yeah,
so it's gonna be really easy. You think you're ready
to go. Oh yeah, everything's fine. So right before we're
about ready to do the starting lineups and you know,
packed house, like four people there. I get ready to
do the starting lineups and the guy goes, oh, yeah,
by the way, you gotta come up with a catchphrase.

(01:56:50):
Well what do you mean He goes, well, you know,
the guy always says this before the game and everybody
gets jacked up. So if you could just come up
with one to be awesome. I'm like, hey, man, you
couldn't have me that sooner. I got nothing. What I
can't do. Let's get ready to rumble. I'll get fired,
I'll go and I'll get sued. You couldn't told me
that earlier, is sorry? Man, Like neat. So I go through,
I do the starting lineups and they're looking at me

(01:57:12):
like what do you got? What do you got? And
just I don't know why I thought this was a
good idea. I'm like, uh, now, Stingray fans, let's do this.
And they're like oh, and they're all high fiving and
jumping up and down in the booth and I'm like,
what an a hole man? You couldn't give me that's
up on that earlier. So if you go out there,

(01:57:33):
you've got to have a fall. Yeah, if you all
got a crew, I won't be the p a for
It's more like, alright, we go from minor league hockey
to the National Football League. I bring this up because
it's not a tweet from a columnist out in I'll
just stay out on the East Coast. He twittered out
a couple of days ago, and this is what the
tweet said, verbatim breaking. Several star NFL players have told

(01:57:54):
me they are considering sitting out this season until the
de facto ban on Eric Reid and also calling Kaepernick
is removed and both men are given spots back on rosters.
They aim to get twenty of the players to sit
out with them. What a bunch of crap. Oh my god,
what what a load of crap. Let me tell you

(01:58:17):
something I can I can appreciate what a lot of
people might do at Fox Sports Radio, Like if somebody
goes and has it really is it feels strongly about something, Um,
that's great. I mean, good for you. I guess what
I'm not doing all right, I'm not giving up a
paycheck because you you're you think you've got a legitimate
case here. That sounds like a bogus story. Uh from

(01:58:37):
a from a bogus reporter. That sounds like a complete
load of crap. I'll believe it when I see it.
I'm not too surprised. Steph Curry wants everyone to focus
not on Lebron James, but also on the entire team.
You know, the Cavaliers. Hey, when people say that, like
it's they're NBA players, and yeah, they're they're they're new
and whatnot. And Braun is amazing. He played an unbelievable

(01:58:58):
playoff run to day and his will and his team,
you know, and don't disresplay the other guys that day.
They hard too, y. I mean, he's he's got a point.
I mean those guys did play. Jeff Green played really well,
which is which is you know what that means for
Jeff Green if you ever followed the course of his career,
because he played so well in Game seven, Um, that'll

(01:59:19):
be the last time he plays well. He'll be Uh,
fans in Boston know what I'm talking about. You want
to talk a guy who was inconsistent at best. That
was Jeff Green. So I mean like some of those
guys did play well. I mean, it doesn't matter. This
is just basically it's over. They may not win another game.
Step Coady Jonas officers were left really embarrassed just a

(01:59:40):
couple of days ago when they went to Club F
in County Durham in northeast England, after they realized that
a reported child was actually just a very short woman.
That's right. The club, which has a fully equipped dungeon
boast on his website Britain's friendliest swing spot. Police right
at the same discovered that it was not a child entering.

(02:00:01):
It was just with the club's smallest customers. You remember that.
Can you imagine that you walk in there, the police sold,
all right, where is she right over there? Sir? She's
hiding behind that shot glass? Is that

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