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Speaker 2 (00:36):
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Speaker 3 (00:37):
Big weekend in college and pro football. Our guy Mark
Dominic joins us this hour plus. Not sure if this
is a good thing, but we are getting ready for
the fight tonight. I guess that's probably where we should start.
We'll get to the Eagles in a moment, but I,
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you know, I really want to start with the fight.
I guess here's the thing, and in many ways, I
think the fight is a lot like politics, a lot
like politics. You know, we have a lot of people
who are spending a lot of time and energy complaining
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about the president elect. And you're allowed to complain. You're
allowed to complain about the president elects appointments or attempts
at appointments to people in his cabinet. That's what freedom
of speech is. It allows you to complain and not
feel the weight of the government when you go like,
I don't agree with that, and here's why.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
But the answer, truly, truly.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Is if your person, woman or man didn't win in
whatever elected office, in this case, we'll go with the
president find better candidates. It is in fact a popularity contest,
you know it is, so find better candidates, and I think,
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but it does speak to just what a mess, whether
it's real or perception of politics are that at one
point we were left with two, you know, seventy five
year old plus men in a country that at some
point has to find kind of the next wave of
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thinkers and people. Right, And the same is true even
at the end of the day where a lot of
people were voting against the other candidate.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
But if those are the.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Two best people that we can find as potential presidents
of the United States, what does it say about politics
or what does it say about us? I think the
same thing can be said for boxing, where this is
the biggest boxing match of the year. We're in November,
and I'm sure boxing guys be like, no, no, no, wait,
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wait wait, you missed the fine there is And part
of it is the YouTube and the fact that he's
gen Z. Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson is the biggest.
It doesn't mean it's fight of the year or to
be a good fight, but you have a senior citizen,
former heavyweight champion going against a YouTube star who's not
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really he's a late to the sport boxer.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
If this is the best we can do for the
fight or match of the year, the sports se mess
much like politics se mess. All right, let's get to the
last night. Philadelphia Eagles dominate the Washington Commanders. Of course,
when I say dominate, it was really kind of late
in the game and Washington just kicked the field goal instead.
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They sort of got a gain run out of the
building late and Jalen Hurts was, you know, good, efficient,
not great, not terrible. They ran the heck out of
the football. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I just end of the day.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
The Eagles are a far better team, far further along
than the rebuilt Washington Commanders. I don't know what we
learned from last night. I mean, I know people say, well,
the Giants looks stupid with Saquon Barklay, But the Eagles
had two running backs late running all over the Commanders
and a lot of it, and I think Saquon's terrific,
But a lot of it was the fact that the
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Washington Commanders were just getting blown off the football.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
We've known.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
The Eagles are talented, they just have been dysfunctional, and
they play against a better schedule, whereas the Commanders that
played against nobody. You go into Philadelphia on Thursday night,
weren't high expectations. I will point out Dan Byer once
again right because he had Eagles in the over.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I was in the opposite side of it. I was wrong.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Lasting takeaways. Eagles will be there, They'll be competitive. Do
I think they're great?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I do not.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
But when I look through the NFC, the NFC East,
they're obviously the best team. When I look at the
NFC West, the Niners will find out more and more
as they get healthier and healthier. But they're still feel
like they're not hitting on all cylinders. I don't think
anybody thinks the Vikings are as good as the record.
The Lions in many ways look like they're the best team.
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But the Lions are going to have to continue to
keep pace or continue to lead the NFC because they
don't want to go on the road to Philadelphia in
a January playoff game. Last night's game regained the confidence
of so many in Jalen Hurts and Nick Sirianni in
their chances to get to a Super Bowl, and gave
the Lions a viable competitor who does it very differently
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than how they do it.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
That's my tagaway from Thursday.
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Speaker 2 (06:24):
Jay stew are you going to watch the fight?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Oh? Or back to the fight now? Okay, No, I'm
not going to watch it I would have never watched it.
But I have asked myself this week, what result would
I root for so that something like this could never
happen again? What is the result that will tell people
this is not worth the money? Because I think what
Tyson's getting twenty million or something, so obviously somebody out
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there thinks that this is valuable. Because I don't want
to see any more of it. What's the result? Maybe literally,
I'm not being moros here. If the old man dies,
is that going to put an end of this charade?
Is that the result that that puts an end of this?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Sam? Will you watch?
Speaker 5 (07:08):
I would?
Speaker 6 (07:08):
I don't have Netflix, believe it or not. I don't
have Netflix. I actually have a free membership trial of
Amazon Prime, which I'm loving right now. Use it to
watch the game last night. I have my YouTube TV
and Peacock, but I just don't I don't know.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
I don't think I'm gonna watch it. I don't think
my buddy who has Netflix, I don't think he cares.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
You know, I want to watch Hawkeye men's basketball and
a little.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Washington who is it?
Speaker 6 (07:36):
A little Big ten actions see Washington UCLA that's what
I'll be watching. But is the fight on later? Is
it like one of those late night like nine o'clock
it's in Dallas, Okay.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
So yeah, so I would guess.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
The fight starts to what like nine West Coast time?
Maybe eight West Coast time.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
I feel like these these fights are always like kind
of like later at night, just to kind of get everybody.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Well, you're lucky you live on the West coast, right
right later at night means you know.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Us Vegas, Yeah, it's time.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Whereas if you're on the East coast, it's really.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
Like, is the undercard just Golden Bachelor guys fighting regular
Bachelor guys? Jason, I know that's kind of your alley, Like,
is that what we're leading up to?
Speaker 5 (08:14):
This? Is there an undercard?
Speaker 4 (08:15):
It would be the equivalent, Yeah, and that that fights tonight.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
By the way, we.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
All think that Jake Paul's and steroids, right, Yeah, I know.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
Yeah, I I just it's one of those things that
I don't I don't. I'm sure that there's something yeah there,
but it's not like I would I wouldn't look at
it as how we would look at baseball, you know,
like we're like, man, he's in all this home runs.
Do you think he's on something like It's just it
doesn't because it's not like, I don't want to say
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legit sports, but that's.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Not what it feels like.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, no, it's not legit. So like it's such a
weird thing.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
It's like if I don't watch it, I don't watch
it because I really don't care.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
But I do. I'm with Jason.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I wanted to go away, So I think Jake Paul
getting knocked out by an old man makes it go away.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
I actually think it's the opposite.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
It would feed you know, it feeds a spectacle, right
if yeah Tyson wins.
Speaker 7 (09:14):
Yeah, I think that if Jake Paul embarrasses Mike Tyson
or knocks him out, nobody wants to see a late fifties,
sixty year old man be hit by a twenty something,
and especially someone that this generation, our generation, and looking
at what he did is boxing, you know, is revered
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so much. Hecky, it was hard to see Tyson at
the end of his career as it was, this would
be this would be really difficult.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
It was hard people forget that that Tyson at the
end was really sad, right, boxers always like to get
carried out of their last fight. I don't know what
that's about, don't know what it's about.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
I think we're going to know early as well, like
we're gonna be like, oh boy, I want.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
To watch this.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
I do kind of feel like Tyson, that's just like
who he is, you know, like he's I've never thought
that you had to be some good person to be
a boxer, Like it's a gladiatorial sport, it's not one
that has to be a popular like should he like
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write obviously he went to jail on a rape charge
like that is unacceptable. But again, like these are just
warriors in a ring. It has nothing to do with
how good a person you are. So part of that
tells me that as much as Jake Paul and that
whole thing annoys the crap out of me, Like it's
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never been about boxing, has never been about how good
a person you are, how you treat people, or how
you rise to success any of that stuff. Boxing is
about boxing. Life is about life.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Uh so, so Dan, you think that what outcome makes
people not want to watch this thing?
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Up again? If Jake Paul knocks out Mike Tyson.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
If he knocks out Mike Tyson, then his next fight's
a getting somebody who's more a little younger, a little bit,
you know, also more reputable because of his youth and
a boxer.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Don't you think.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
I just don't think. I don't think.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
I think the question is we don't want to see this,
and what we don't want to see is old guys
fighting young guys.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Correct like Jay.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Guys who are are quote unquote amateur. They're like amateur
boxers acting like they're doing something because they're fighting people
that are not boxers in.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
The in the discipline of boxing. Like he's fought like
you know, MMA.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Guys, Yeah who striker.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
He lost and he loves to like Tommy Fury's brother
or something like that. So like we've so we've seen that.
So it's not like he's the jerk that we the
bully that we want to see get beat up because
we've seen him lose.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Like that's like that's happened. Now.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
It is almost like we're trying to find where is
the sweet spot for where Jake Paul lands in the
world of boxing. It's like, Okay, you can't beat a
younger brother of a boxer who had some history with it,
But can he be the guy who's thirty, you know,
years past his prime or when we last saw at
the top of his game.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Like that's that's the weirdness about it.
Speaker 7 (12:29):
And I mean, if if Tyson wins, I think we
could see like other boxers being like, hey, give me
twenty million dollars and I'll try to fight somebody if
that works. But if he loses, I just nobody wants
to see that. Nobody wants to see sixty year old
guy get punched.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
That's the thing. That's why my example sounded extreme. But
it's gonna take something that's disgusting and off putting, like
just knocking him out that either way, I don't think
is gonna make this go away.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
We all do. I hope it goes away.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
This is not like if you're a boxing guy, you're
sitting there going this is the worst thing ever for
our sport, isn't it?
Speaker 7 (13:10):
Yeah, can't be good, But I will I will also
say that I think boxing is I think that there
are boxing people who are fine with how boxing is
and that it's guess what our sport isn't is mainstream,
Like they still have their fights that we just aren't
paying attention to it.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
It's kind of a weird music thing where when your
favorite artist may be mainstream, but you like their album
that isn't as popular. I think that boxing is kind
of the same way.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
H There are also boxing fans out there who are
just desperate for whatever attention the sport can get, and
so if this is how the sport evolves, they're okay
with it because it's still being talked about, even if
it's not the pure thing it was back in the
you know, the sixties to the two thousands.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
You know, it's interesting that Mike Tyson has gone through.
This is kind of the third in car nation of
fights that you, I don't want to say you kind
of hate watch right because early on when he was dominant,
the whole thing was the entrance and there was just
fear and the thing was over like before a minute,
and you just felt like, what a waste of money.
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And then late in his career it was just a
spectacle and he wasn't any good, Like, he just didn't
his boxing skills.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Hadn't been refined.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
He was over the hill, and you know, just that
initial attack, didn't do anything, and now we're in the
you know, now we have a a YouTube star fighting
a senior citizen again, another form of TV we don't
want to watch. We don't want to feel like we're
wasting our money. Yet in all three forms people have
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actually absolutely spent their good herdern money.
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Speaker 8 (15:05):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
You know too.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Obviously got the play against the Rams Monday night, and
you know he tried to leap in front of the
guy who picked it off. And he was asked yesterday
about the tackle he tried to make where he led
with his head.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Here was his response.
Speaker 9 (15:20):
It didn't feel as bad as what what it probably
looked like may have looked like when we watched it.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Our our coach had said.
Speaker 9 (15:26):
You know that he sort of need you in the head.
You know, essentially you're you're out there playing football. I
didn't necessarily feel that and you know, I wasn't just
going to jump jump out of the way for him
to just run down the sideline and potentially score. So
you know, you got to make decisions. And you know,
I should never throw the pick in the first place.
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That's I wanted to do anything differently. I'll make the tackle.
So that's what I gotta do. It's what it is.
It's hard to score in this league.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Uh, it is. And I think there's some of that
that I understand. He's right should have thrown the pick.
He's right, he should have. He definitely shouldn't have led
with his head well, kind of going down on his knees.
Then you're completely powerless. But he got to figure out
a way to just push him out of the way. Push,
push him out of the way and stay out of
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harm's way, you know, or funnel him to where the
rest of your guys are. Here's Mike McDaniels, his coach,
when he was asked about Tua and his approach to
his health.
Speaker 10 (16:28):
I didn't waste much time saying something to him like
he can't just think about his ability to stay healthy
when he has the ball. It's also when when they're
trying to make a tackle, and I told him not
to close his eyes next time. But yeah, I think
he could also prevent prevent that from occurring by you know,
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avoiding throwing it to the other team, which he knows
as well. So you know, I think there's always things
to improve upon and learn from, and he definitely had
learning moe with air.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah not great, not great, buddy, survive it and we
move on. We'll move on as a show as well,
like we're good. Obviously he was dumb, thankfully, wasn't so
dumb that he got dinged in the head to the
point where he had another concussion. All Right, it's Doug
Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Mark Dominic joins us.
He's sent over twenty years in the NFL front offices,
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most notably the gentle manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
and he joins us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Mark,
Let's let's go to last night. Did that game say
more about Washington or Philadelphia?
Speaker 11 (17:35):
Yeah? I feel like the game said more about Philadelphia.
I think it's I mean, really, Doug, it talks about
just what's made Philadelphia Philadelphia this year. I mean, sikwon
Barkley's been everything. I mean, I think this team is
a five hundred team without him and kind of playing
a little bit like we saw them last year. Yes,
they've added other pieces of the puzzle that have helped
this team, you know, be a better overall team, but
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Sikwon Barkley was another two hundred yards. It's just he's
such an important aspect of the team. He's been able
to stay healthy and he's funneling this team to where
they are right now, which is in good shape and
then certainly in the position right now to not only uh,
you know, be in the postseason, but leading the division
at eight and two and having a chance at a
home home first run by even you know.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Dan Buyer brought up a great point. A couple weeks
back we were talking about that off season hard Knocks
and how interesting it was and how the Giants really
did let people in on this kind of off season
process and most notably Saquon Barkley. What's interesting about it is,
I don't know if he has that this kind of
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year if he's with the Giants, because they don't have
this kind of line right they would they would most
likely be better. And the truth is that they were
only a million off at the end of the day,
but it was how the whole process went through and
their willingness to move on and the Giants running hasn't
been terrible, but he's a tremendous player. I guess my
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question is, you're a former general manager. Have you ever
been in one of these situations where you made the
decision to let somebody go financially, whether you let him
sign with somebody else or you cut him, and it
come back comes back to bite you that very year.
Speaker 11 (19:24):
Maybe not to this level, to this extreme, but certainly
I've been part of it where organizationally, where we were
with the offer to the player. Organizationally, not everyone was
on board with bringing the player back. And because of that,
the player walking his name was Michael Bennett. It was
a defensive lineman, a really talented guy that we had
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in Tampa for four years and we just weren't everybody
was on the same page. And he goes off to
Seattle and plays great in Seattle and is a great
football player his entire career. That one hurt, but it
wasn't as in your face as this was. Not only
just because it's in the same you know, that was
you know, Seattle versus Papa. This one, you know, in
the NFC East, we all get to watch it, and
we all got to see what the owner said about
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what he thinks of Saquon Barkley. And that's what everybody
in the league thought of Saquon Barkley as a character
of a young man. And that's the difference where this
one hurts a lot more. It's that not only did
you let go of an elite player, but an owner's
one of the owner's favorite players and obviously a player
that the owners saw as very important for the fans,
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and then turn around to know the high quality of
character he is as well. All those things burned deep,
and it seems like it burns every week.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah, so this is kind of stuff that gets you fired.
Speaker 11 (20:39):
Yeah, it can. I think it really can. And I
know that, uh, you know, I think they all went
in with the best intentions, obviously trying to figure out what,
you know, how to you know, build the run game.
But you know, the thing I struggled with and I
said this all along, even we talked about it a
couple of times in the offseason. You know, when that
first came out, if you knew your quarterback was different,
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then maybe you can have that conversation. But you're they
took too much confidence in New York, assuming the very
best out of a position that has not assumed and
shown anything to that to that ability. And that's the
difference why Kansas City has been able to kind of
find their way through all this because Patrick Mahomes can,
you know, make other players good enough around him. Daniel
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Jones just can't. And I think they saw a different
Daniel Jones and that's what convinced them to walk away
from Barkley. And I think it was the opposite. It
was then Barkley was helping make Daniel Jones, not Daniel
Jones helping make Barkley.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
I also think, and again, if I'm wrong, Markis you're
you have the you have the floor.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
To tell me I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
I also think it's probably the best thing that's happened
to say Juan Barkley's career in that like, look, he.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Was good with the Giants.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
The Eagles have a better offensive line, they have a
better scheme, they are more run oriented team.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
They've just been better.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
They're better football, better franchise right now, and it very
likely makes him persona non ground in New York. I
said it when at the time, which is like, there's
a lot of things post career which may not happen now,
no matter how well respected he is in New York,
because he left the Giants. That said as a football player,
probably the smartest movie can make.
Speaker 11 (22:19):
No, I think he did make the right business. And
you're right. I mean, you know, you look at Kelsey
versus Cam Jurgens, just the center to fill up the
Eagles completely two different players. Cam is much more of
a physical, big, thick bodied you know, knock you off
the ball, and Kelsey's athletic and can get to any level.
So you're right. The offensive line is completely built different.
The Eagles are even stronger on the run game than
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they were a year ago, as great as Kelsey is
and has been. So I think that's a big piece
of it. And I think I think where Cam Jurgens
can get pieces. In the end, he got to walk
away from the Giants to Giants. Yeah, they didn't offer
us but Cam. But excuse me, but Barkley was able
to sit there and go, I have the off from
the Giants, I have to offer from the Eagles. I
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want to leave, and that's a little bit better piece
for a player. It's unlike a player that says, hey,
we don't want you anymore, We're not going to offer you.
That's a much harder thing to deal with. So I
think it made the transition easier for Barkley, which I
think has made him play better this year as well,
because I think he got to choose his own adventure,
which is not as easy to do in the NFL
as you think.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Ope, Doug Gottlib show here on Fox Sports Radio, when
you watched the mess that is the Chicago Bears, how
much of this is on Caleb Williams, Well.
Speaker 11 (23:36):
You know, I think he deserves his fair share. I mean,
I know that we've kind of seen him go up
and down all season, you know, where we thought that
things were starting to finally feel like they're going to
come around. He's going to start being the quarterback that
we expected him to be from the beginning, and sad
that there's only really been you know, a couple of
games that are right in the middle of the season,
the end of all September early October, we were like, Okay,
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this is this is what we're hoping that we continue
to get to see the problem was it was against
Caroline and Jacksonville, and that's where you kind of like hickup,
because you know, you play Washington, you play Arizona, and
now you just played New England and it's back to
underd fifty percent completion percentage, and it's stuff we saw
in the preseason, so you're starting to see more of
the norm is the fifty three fifty five percent of
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completion percentage, and the non normal is the sixties and seventies.
And that's that's a lot on Caleb, and that's a
lot on what I've always said and Doug we've been
on all year. I talked about Caleb in the draft.
So my concernancy thinks it's easier than it is, and
it's not. It's such a hard position to play the
process to have the ability. And that's always why I
had the intrepidation, with the trepidation on him as a
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starting quarterback, because I think he thought it was going
to be each of than VI and it's just piling
on and I think now everything else that's going on
around the head coach is very much in trouble. Coordinators,
all these kind of things are changing I think it's
only making it worse for Caleb because the reality is
he's going to probably be looking at a whole new
system to learn again next year.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
But do you think he has it in him?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Because a lot of this, you know, a lot of
this is is holes in his game, and then you
start to crack at his confidence in himself, other people's
confidence in him.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Can he turn it around?
Speaker 11 (25:17):
Yeah? I mean right now I struggle with it. And
one of the main things I look at is you
can look at the sacks. I mean, the sacks are
in the thirties. You can go around in the NFL
and you can look at you know, Bo Nicks and
he's i think, got less than twenty sacks, which is
showing that he knows how to get the ball out
of his hands and not just eat the you know,
take the bad play. I think that's that's such an
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important thing as a young quarterback is can you get
the ball in your hands and not you know, kill
the football team wanty to do it. Drake May has,
you know, got less than fifteen I know he started
a lot less games, but he's certainly gotten himself in
a position where he's getting the ball's hands, and then
you look at Caleb Williams. He's almost got forty sacks
on the season. So if I'm being wordily honest, I
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think I was in trouble, and I think Caleb Blames
is in trouble, you know, longer term. You know, I
know that the Rams game was a great game, and I
know that the you know, Jackson game was his comeout game.
But you go three straight games with no touchdowns, three
straight games, and you've got where the eighteen sacks and
three games you're completing those last games under fifty percent
in the National Football League. If you you could be
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optimisk you want, but realistically you would say this is
this is the problem for Bears, and this is the
problem with kayleb Blames. And it's the more every week
we get down of the more I'm more confidence. And
this is probably going to be one of those you know,
we picked.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
The wrong guy Steut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
let's get to some of the other some of their games.
Huge week, Baltimore Pittsburgh week. Uh, this is really kind
of the test if you will, well, Baltimore's defense is
not classic Baltimore defense, but still pretty impressive unit. Right,
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They're going to take on the Ravens. Let me see,
they're gonna take on the Steelers in Pittsburgh. It feels
to me like this is where the is Russell Wilson
capable of taking the Steelers to a level higher than
just getting in the playoffs like they did last year.
What's your level of confidence in this version of Russell Wilson?
Speaker 8 (27:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (27:19):
I think for me, yes, I have more confidence because
I think, you know, he's willing to ask. We've seen
throw the ball and that guy's gonna make plays and
once again he's been doing that and the guys have
been able to respond. And that's just something different for
a veteran quarterback to have that confidence. And then I
think the skill guys are appreciating that. I look at
this game and I say, we're going to learn a
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lot about the Steelers on the defensive side of the ball,
and are they strong enough to be able to calm
down you know, Derrick Henry and all the different elements
this team brings. That to me going to be the
big question because I think that's really going to be
the backbone of whether Russell's good enough. I think Russell's
good enough to get to the postseason and win a
postseason game. I think the Steelers defense is gonna have
to be the reason why they mean they get deep
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in the playoffs or you know, maybe the AFC Championship
game up further. And I think this game will show
where really is or are the Pittsburgh Steelers defensive players.
Are they good enough to slow down a heavy offense
like this? That to me is going to make this
team so fascinating. Well, so, I'm actually watching the defensive
side of the ball in Pittsburgh even more than I'm
watching the offensive side.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Will We'll see if Amari Cooper returns. It looks like
Juju Smith Schuster will return. Nonetheless, we have another show
down between the Bills and the Chiefs. The Bills who've
been unable to beat the Chiefs in the playoffs. Obviously
the thirteen seconds go back a couple of years ago.
They've never really gotten over it. Now the Chiefs are undefeated,
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but they continue to survive more than strive the in
these wins. What are your thoughts on Buffalo and Kansas
City on Sunday?
Speaker 11 (28:49):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's gonna be an amazing game.
Duncan Kate hasn't had a great season, but certainly that
he'll be missed this week, even if you know, depending
where Marie Cooper lines up and how much I think
I think, you know, again, I started with Kansas City,
root for Kansas City, but I just think Buffalo is
the better team, even though Kansas City is undefeated, and
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I look at it is that I think maybe they're,
you know, their strength of victories, the strength of schedule
certainly softer than what Kansas City's seen. Buffalo's taking advantage
of it. But they're putting points on the board really well,
right and I think they're plus ten to fifteen and
net touchdowns this season over their opponents. That's a lot.
And so when Buffalo's on, they're on. And I just
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feel like Kansas City is kind of getting through some
vapors and it'll be nice to have Jujus Smith Schuster
there as another target, but you know, it's gonna be
more of what Dos Hopkins continue to grow and to
be in that offense. And I look at Buffalo and say,
I think they're ready for this one, and I think
that this is a huge game, and I lean towards
the Buffalo Bills over the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Does it do anything to the psyche considering their falters
with the Chiefs have been in the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
You know, it's just like it does at some point
get in your head. Even as the players change, you
still have quarterbacks. If you win, does it change your
psyche at all?
Speaker 11 (30:05):
You know, I was part of that back in the
early two thousands. The Philadelphia Eagles just had our number.
They kept knocking us out of the postseason, kept knocking
out of the postseason, and it was just like we
lost the regular season game to him last week of
the regular season and turn around lost him the postseason.
But every game to me is different. And so you know,
even if you win in the post in the regular season,
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there's still gonna be a little bit more pressure on
Buffalo based off of what their disappointments they've had, But
it will give them a little bit more confidence, like
it just a hair a bit more confidence if they
can take care of this regular season game. They're going to,
in my opinion, dug see each other in the postseason
some way or another, regardless of where they end up seated.
And you know, I think it's going to be a
great new Battle, But I just I feel like Buffalo's
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just a different team this year. I know that we
just saw Josh Allen over the last couple of weeks.
You hadn't Gon intercepts and now I was going four
in the last four week or three weeks. But that's
not gotten me concerned like he's going to start reverting
or something's really going to go back. I feel really
good be where Josh Allen is. I feel good with
this Buffalo team is. And once a Marik Cooper really
gets two percent, I think it did takes them up
another notch.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Hey, listen, have a great weekend. Mark.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
We love, love, love hearing your commentary on so many
things you're so tied in. Appreciate you being your guest
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 11 (31:18):
Yeah, a lot of great games this weekend and look
forward to watching them and talk to you next week.
THOK take doing me both.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Stug gott Leap Show, You're on Fox Sports Radio. Chered
Smith joins his next hour, We are Gambler Bix as well.
Should have a great second hour of the live show,
coase we got the podcast drop in third hour of
the show. In the meantime, we like to conclude this
first hour with something we call game time.
Speaker 8 (31:48):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Hey there, Dan Byro. What's the game today, Doug?
Speaker 5 (31:57):
The game today is I got alright?
Speaker 7 (32:01):
First topic up for grabs, free for all here between
Doug Gottlieb, myself, Jason Stewart, and Iowa Sam. All time
favorite boxers, all time favorite boxers.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Let the dibbing begin.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I got DIBs and Sugar Ray Leonard.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Mmm.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I know there's been Sugar Shane Moseley and other Sugars.
I also liked how he was introduced to Sugar right Leonard.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
And I'm not an idiot.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Obviously he's had a lot of work done, but he
does still look amazing like a man his age having
taken that many shots to the cabeza.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I don't know. He was a great boxer.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
He seemed to be really technically sound, thought to thought,
thought and one in so many different weight classes.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
And I was just always like, Sugar Ray Leonard.
Speaker 7 (32:53):
I'm gonna give you one, then nobody will take Okay,
James Buster Douglas. But the reason being when he out Tyson,
I was about twelve or thirteen at the time. And
it's also because I was a huge Ohio State fan
and Buster Douglas was from Columbus, Ohio, and so back then,
when you're a kid and you have a favorite team
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and every sport for everything, it was easy to be like, oh,
I guess my favorite boxer now is James Buster Douglas.
And in fact, I had those you know, those caricature shirts.
We'd call them big head shirts. I got a James
Buster Douglas caricature shirt when I was like thirteen years
old after he knocked out Mike Tyson. So and then
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he lost his next bout and that was pretty much it.
But give me James Buster Douglas.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
I got dips now. Muhammad Ali, I think I'm the
only one on staff here that was alive when he
lost to Larry Holmes. I remember seeing that, I remember
seeing the fight. What year is it now?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
What year is that?
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Jason seventy? Was it seventy nine or eighty?
Speaker 2 (34:02):
So I was alive. I just I mean, I don't
remember anyone.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Four google it, Sam seventy to nine or eighty.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I do.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
I like him for this reason only because he was
a crap talker. He taught crap and he did it poetically,
and he kind of made you like him for doing it.
And he took a stance politically and gave up two
years for three years in his prime. And when people
compare Lebron to him, it's an absolute joke.
Speaker 7 (34:31):
Nineteen eighty October? Was it October second? Nineteen eighties?
Speaker 5 (34:34):
That sound right?
Speaker 4 (34:35):
I was about to turn eight, Okay, I.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
Got DIBs on James Braddock, and I'm more of a
boxing film. I'm more of a boxing movie fan than
this sport itself. James Braddock was portrayed by Russell Crowe
in the movie Cinderella Man. He was a real person.
He was a day laborer but also a boxer in
there during the Great Depression. That's one of my favorite
boxing film, one of my favorite sports films of all time.
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I will take the every man James Braddeck.
Speaker 7 (35:01):
I thought he was going to go with Michael second
to None, who was from Iowa, but that did not happen.
What was his last name, Michael Nunn second nickname was
second to None.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
I'll be honest, we could.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Do a whole segment of our favorite boxing nickname.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
I've never heard of that person in my life. That's
that is that shameful? Should I have known this who
this person was?
Speaker 7 (35:20):
Yeah, he was notable, but it's maybe a little bit
before your time, so that's okay, don't worry about it.
He only came from Iowa.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
I like Parnell's sweet pee Whitaker.
Speaker 7 (35:29):
Oh that's good. Yeah, that's really good nickname. All right,
Topic number two, Best NFL matchup of Week eleven. Let
the dibbing begin.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Well, I'll take it. I'll take dibbs on the Ravens
at the Steelers. Lamar Jackson does not do well against
the Steelers. I have him in a couple big fantasy leagues.
I need him to do well, so I'm going to
be paying close attention. I hope this is the exception
and not the rule, and he dominates the Steelers.
Speaker 7 (36:00):
I'll take Chargers Bengals, Charger fans. Yeah, just I think
that's gonna be a fun game. And now the Chargers
with their new identity going counterproductive to what the Bengals are.
I don't want to say fresh teams, but I feel
like it's fresh. It's not just a Chiefs Ravens game
or something. I like Bengals Chargers on Sunday night.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
I mean, I live in Green Bay, Wisconsin. It's Bears
week and the continued suffering of the Bears is just
an incredibly beautiful thing. And they, you know, Packers coming
off a bye, so Jordan Love should be healthy. I mean,
what's better than hopefully maybe a win for us on Saturday.
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I don't a win for the women's team on Saturday,
and then you know, whether it's Aaron Rodgers whoever still
own Chicago and get a win on Sunday, that'd be fun.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
I take DIBs on Chiefs visiting the Bills. I think
that's the best game of the weekend.
Speaker 7 (36:57):
How sad is it that my Seahawks, who face the
Nine and what was a great rivalry a decade ago
now just going kind of under the radar, likely because
of these Seahawks' failures as of late. All Right, yesterday
we did alternate sporting locations for teams that need to
be relocated for whatever reason. This is a branch off
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of that, and it's also a branch off of what
we're going to see Saturday, Ohio State Northwestern at Wrigley Field.
Guys sports in unusual places. Unusually.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
They played a basketball tournament at the Green Brier, which
is a resort in West Virginia tonight.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Ooh really Yeah.
Speaker 7 (37:39):
Well I was going to go with the old college
basketball games on the battleships, you know, and they would
do it in San Diego.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Do you remember when San Diego State didn't make the
tournament one year they lost to San Diego I think
it was like fifty to forty nine or something like
that was something terrible. They played in Petco and there
were shadows and do on the and nobody can make
a shot.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
But yeah, I got DIBs on baseball games being played
in cornfields.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
Yes, good job, that good work.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
What about didn't they do a tennis It was a
tennis match. They played tennis like in Dubai on like
the top of a skyscraper.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
It sounds a little familiar, but I'm game for more
of that. That would be great tennis in a fear
of heights.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
I got tips all right, yep. College basketball on aircraft
carriers very good. Do you remember that?
Speaker 5 (38:33):
Yeah? I said it thirty seconds ago.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
I got DIBs on baseball in a Cornfield's.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
One of the problems when you can't hear and you
do radio.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
I was trying to sell Sam on I can't hear
one thing. I was trying to sell them on the
fact that you should mention this because you were there
and he didn't even mention that.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Stuck out, leave show, Fox Sports Radio. We do have
one more. I got DIBs out like that. Plus, man,
I actually want to talk about what no one's talking
about tonight.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
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