February 4, 2025 • 36 mins
Doug reacts to comments made by Luka Doncic as he was officially announced as the newest member of the Los Angeles Lakers. Doug welcomes Cowboys Brandon Aubrey and Zack Martin to the show to talk about their new head coach, the season and what they are doing with Bounty. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "Rank 'Em".
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We got a may we got a lot of different stuff. Oh,
we got buyer's remorse. Thomas to Bitschaw will join us here.
Former gentlemanager the Atlanta Falcons. There's a guy who built
up a team that went to a Super Bowl, had
the biggest lead twenty eight to three, then suffered the
biggest collapse in the history of Super Bowl. But we'll
talk to him about the Eagles losing a Super Bowl
and the Chiefs winning Super Bowls. Then we're even losing
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them coming back and continue to be consistent. How hard
is that in comparison to building It a lot of
good stuff to get to, but the story the sports
world continues to be Luka Doncik is now a Laker
is now a Laker. Luca had a press conference today,
he alongside Rob Polinka. Look, Rob Polinka is a friend.
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His wife had been when when we were living close
to them in southern California's wife had been my kid's pediatrician.
She's awesome. But I gotta say that was a very
la jacket. Either I'm really really really not feeling the
vibe or not hip, or maybe that jacket wasn't it?
(02:02):
What do you think, Jay Stuke? Because that was a
he had like black I guess the best term from
would be like slacks. And then he had a gray
leather jacket, but it felt like it was too small.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Well, first and foremost, I wouldn't doubt if the outfit
cost ten thousand dollars. I'm always I'm always interested to
see what really rich guys wear they choose to wear.
Steve Bomer is one case on one end of the
spectrum with his khakis and button down, and then there's
Rob Polenka. But there's this like it's almost like he's
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about to walk onto a European runway and do some
modeling with this very tight euro jacket. It was actually
pretty off putting, and it shows me how skinny the
guy is too. He weighs like ninety pounds.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Wait wait it was off putting. Why because he's skinny
or because you just didn't like it?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Just the form fitting leather over the black V neck
T shirt that was offended my sensibilities.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, there's a lot going on there that was really interesting.
What's what's maybe more interesting is and obviously he's made
a ton of money, not just being GMA and a
Lakers but agent for the stars, including the late Great
Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
But I mean he and his wife couldn't be in
like real life, nicer people and more humble people. But
that was a damn I make a lot of money.
I got a lot of money sort of sort of look,
wasn't it? And it's it's just weird. Whereas like Luca.
I mean, you feel like that guy would always be
in sweats if need to be using some kind of
sweater and some and some genes, which which also, by
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the way, works in LA. One of the things about
LA I think people don't realize is you can, in
fact dress how you want, Like if you want to
go designer stuff, you can, but a sweatshirt and some
sweats are always fine. Truly is. Here's Luca on being
a Laker, especially with this prior relationship to Kobe.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
I'm very happy to be here for his opportunity. He's
the Lakers. It's one of the best clubs in history,
so I'm excited to be here. I remember the exact
moment that I happened. It was an amazing moment. Just
for Kobe to know my name was amazing for me.
You know, I just wish Colby and Jid you were
here to see this moment. And you know, I'm excited
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about his new journey and happy to be here.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Let's get to this. This is Luca addressing the talk
about his conditioning when he was with the Mavericks.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
It's a motive. I know it's not true, but it's
a motive, Like I said, you know, I came here
one of the biggest clubs in history sports, so it's
a big motive for a long, long run here.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, okay, so he's motivated, right, He's motivated to show people.
And I guess, like, look, that's awesome. I'll shoot a
couple things down. And I know he said he'll learn
a lot from Lebron, but you're not. I can learn
a lot from Lebron in terms of fitness and diet,
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you know, and work ethic. I mean, Luca, obviously, you
don't become that great a basketb play unless you like
to work at it. But in terms of diet, I
mean you could say, hey, Anthony Davis didn't take care
of himself. It took him about three years to figure
it out. Luca is not going to have that long
with co with Lebron, probably a year and a half. Right,
feels like next year becomes the Swan Song, the tour
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where he collects all the gifts and then he bows
out and goes off into the sunset. But I find
the whole thing to be interesting, and I don't know
a lot of people have different takeaways to it. The
Lakers getting their next superstar is an easy takeaway. Dallas
trying to get better defensively and win now is a
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smart and easy takeaway. I think Nico Harrison, whether you
want to say, going rogue or this was his vision
and this was his belief and this was all his doing,
is essentially what this became about. Don't believe me. Here's
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here's Rob Olinka talking about how the trade went down.
We'll get to that in a second. Rob talked about how,
you know, like Nico said, it really was Nico Harrison
pushing this deal and Nico Harrison and again doesn't mean
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it's completely factually true that he didn't talk to Jason
Kidd about it, that it was done kind of only
with one or two calls in terms of teams. I
don't know. I can only take him at his word.
But this is Nico Harrison putting himself on that island saying, hey,
guess what, I truly believe that this is the right
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move for our club, like Nico and Nico alone, which
is bold. And no one does that anymore. Who does that,
whoever says the buck stops here? No one. Leaders don't
do that in politics, you know, they'll go like yep
I did that. Here's here's Rob Polinka talking about the
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trade going down.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
This all started with the coffee in Dallas where Nico
approached us with the concept. And because there was a
partnership and a history of traveling the world between Nico
and myself working around Kobe Bryant, there was a fabric
of trust in the discussions.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
There's a fabric of trust in the discussions. Hey, look,
as I trusted Nico, he trusted me. I wasn't going
to share it. We thought he was crazy, and then
he ended up wanting to pull off the deal. Look,
it's it's really simple. Either he knows that you can't
win or function long term at a at a high
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level with Luka Doncic, or he miscalculated and he'll be
out of a job. That's kind of it, isn't it.
This is not one of those, And I understand that
the truth lies in the gray area. Right, the Mavericks
don't go to another NBA finals, it doesn't mean this
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was a bad move. If the Mavericks truly are competitive
and they're able to balance their books and they don't
get lopped into the three hundred and fifty million dollars
payroll and again, like, even with this deal the Lakers,
they can't give him the Supermax. They can't by rule.
Now there's a way in which you can kind of
manipulate it. He'll still make close to same money and
all the Nike money, ENDORSEMENTNDY money and whatever. But this
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is one where I think the Mavericks think they can
be more consistent, more competitive, more often than they could
if they had Luca. And though we should judge by
the Lakers and judge by Luca's success, the fact is
that it would look far different different Luca's time with
Dallas as opposed to Luca's time with the Lakers, because
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had he stayed with Dallas, he would have signed a
three hundred fifty million dollar extension which would have been
not next year, but the following year would have gone
into effect. And then it would dramatically affected how they
could have how they could manipulate within the cap. But
everyone's going to judge it based upon what happens this year. Unfairly,
so everyone's going to judge based upon this year. Don't
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believe me. I give you Saquon Barkley, right. The argument
against signing Saquon Barkley was not over how much he
was going to make this year, or how much any
of these guys were going to make this year. Remember
the argument last offseason, not this passed offseason, off season before,
where all of these running backs got together hopped on
the phone like this isn't right. It was over did
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they deserve a three year guaranteed contract at upwards of twelve, thirteen,
fourteen to fifteen million dollars. That was the argument. And
so the reality is that the Giants will be proven
right or wrong, just like the Raiders will be proven
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right or wrong based upon what happens at the running
back position next year, in the following year in Green
Bay and in Philadelphia, and there are other teams like this.
That's real. But in perception, it's gonna be about this year.
And that's where Dallas can absolutely win kind of the
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hearts and minds in this trade, because for the Lakers,
this is a white flag. We weren't winning anything this
season anyway, let's not kid ourselves. They may go get
a Mitchell Robinson and they may go get somebody else
to protect the rim and act like they can really compete,
but the reality is that that's just not a championship roster,
and I don't think anybody would truly argue with you.
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But with Luca, the thought is for the next five
six years. I mean, Rob Polinka is sitting pretty. They
can just hey, I'm just putting together a new roster.
And this year didn't work, Next year, all right, Then
after Lebron's gone, it's a whole new team. It's Lucas team.
We put the team around him. Same thing could be
said for you know, for Eagles, Giants, Raiders, anybody who's
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had acquired or got rid of a star running back
who wanted a three year, guaranteed deal or more. My
takeaway for the deal is that the reason it seems
so different than other deals is this is how trades
used to be done, and frankly, this is how trades
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mostly should be done. And that you have the NBA,
which has become a player driven league. Heck, even b
Aaron Fox, right, Anthony Davis, Remember Anthony Davis is a
member of the New Orleans Hornets he or Pelicans, I
don't remember which they were when he was traded, and
he wanted out, but he only wanted to play for
the Lakers. And so there's a long drawn out saga.
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They couldn't trade from one season. They waited to the
office he's and finally they got it done. They gave
most of the kitchen sing form. The same could be
said for Darren Fox, who a week week and a
half ago said I want out of Sacramento. Now he's
in San Antonio again. Players forcing their way out of
their current situation, which is what Miles Garrett's trying to
do in Cleveland. But this is a trade to where
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like it isn't about what the player want to do,
It's about what we want to do for our franchise.
It's bold, it's unique, and credit Nico Harrison. He's taking
it on as if it's his and his IDLO.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
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Speaker 2 (12:45):
Stug gott leave Show Fox Sports Radio. Take a listen
to this. Travis Kelcey asked a really interesting question last night.
Last night, was it opening night? They call it opening
I used to be Media Day and then it was
Media Night. That is opening night. Travis Kelsey asked the
media if he could ask one question, and here's what
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it was.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
If I could ask the media one question, why are
you guys leaning into this whole ref thing?
Speaker 7 (13:13):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Like, why are you guys leaning into it? That's all
I got, though, I'll give you the answer because suddenly
conspiracy theories are cool. That's what it is. I mean, Look,
the officiating is crummy. I can tell you. As a
college basketball coach, like when you sit there and watch,
you're like, man, it does feel very personal to you, right,
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That's like just the reality to it. It does feel
very personal to you. And then you step back and
you talk to other coaches like, yeah, it was bad.
Here as bad, there as bad. You know, we hold
guys to a way higher stated than the reality is.
It's just officiating is not that easy. Guys do make mistakes.
I don't. I can't explain how that wasn't a first
down for the Buffalo Bills. I can't. And even though
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most ardent Kansasity, the Chiefs fan, they're like, well, you
couldn't see the ball, Like, okay, dude, was it a
first time? Yeah, but you couldn't see the ball? Okay?
But why why is the media running with it? Because
the media is nothing more than than fans with more access,
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and somehow conspiracy theories have beencome really cool. I'll tell
you what's really cool. Bounty leather jacket, Bounty letterman jackets,
That's what it is. That's that's really cool. Why do
I say that? Because seven time All Pro guard Zach
Martin and Brandon Aubrey is a Pro Bowl kicker, are
both joining us on behalf of Bounty, and they have
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these really cool bounty letterman jackets. Zach, I know you've.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
Done a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah, I know you've done a lot of things in
your life, Notre Dame Dallas Cowboys. But what's it like
to wear the bee not a star?
Speaker 7 (14:53):
He It's pretty comfortable. Man.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
We're here.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
We're here with Bounty this week. Uh.
Speaker 8 (14:57):
You know, obviously you can't have football without wings and
wings with without uh without bounty. So we're here making
sure everyone's cleaned up on game day.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Uh. Brandon, how about you? Uh? You know, making the
Pro Bowls one thing, but but being a bounty boy,
that's a whole other other level of success.
Speaker 9 (15:12):
Absolutely takes me to that next level. You know, thousands, millions,
billions of wings are non Super Bowl Sunday, So it
just makes sense to keep yourself clean with some bounty.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
All right, let's work backwards, Zach barton that offensive line
room when you say, when they go, hey, lineman, what
wings do you want? What's your order?
Speaker 8 (15:31):
I'm a flats I'm going flats, definitely, definitely right if
you people saying you're different, if you're a flats guy,
that's what I've been.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
Told all day today.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Well what's different? But you like what you like?
Speaker 7 (15:43):
Right exactly? What flat flats with branch?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Flat branch, so regular like regular buffalo sauce.
Speaker 8 (15:50):
Yeah, mild garlic, spicy garlic was my go to.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, but what about what about tickers? Brandon, I'm thinking
forking knife for your wings.
Speaker 9 (15:58):
That's my hands clean and prissy. I'll dig in there
whatever whatever is in the locker room. You know, kicker
is usually not the highest paid position in the locker room,
so I'm usually just eating one other people bring in.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
That's uh, that's fair enough, Zach. I got to ask you,
being a cowboy, what are your thoughts on Luca now
being a Laker.
Speaker 8 (16:17):
Yeah, it's weird, Like I've been asked that a couple
of times a day. And like, I'm not a huge
basketball fan NBA fan, but it is. It is crazy
when you have got a guy who's the face of
your franchise and really the face of the city shipped
off for you know, hopefully it works out, but it's
hard to see right now.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, it really is. Uh, Brandon, I gotta I gotta
ask you. Okay, so we're getting ready for the super Bowl.
The highest pressure kick you've ever kicked. Again, they're not
all the same. It doesn't necessarily mean what was accomplished
on the kick for you? What what kick did you
feel the most pressure kicking?
Speaker 9 (16:55):
Yeah, I'd say my first kick in training camp in
front of the team in Dallas. Well, I guess it
was auction hard. But before the practice, Jerry Jones came
up to me and Tristan who's the other kicker there,
and just introduced himself and said, for lack of a
better word, don't screw this up. There's a little less
PG than that, but told us there's a lot of
guys out here watching you, and he came out here
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just to watch you guys. And but then he said,
I'm just messing with you. Go out there and enjoy it,
and have fun and you guys both belong here. But
absolutely the time you're going in front of a new team,
it's at the NFL level, it's a new thing. It's
the dream I've been chasing. Here's my opportunity. And I'd
say that first kick was definitely the most pressure I felt.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
It's interesting you bring that up because and Zach, I
know you watched the college football playoff, Brandon, I'm watching
Texas play I think it was Georgia and Steve Sarkjian
like grabs his kicker and like, you know, gives them
like a I believe in you. Whatever for you? Is
it better if somebody grabs you and gives you, hey,
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I believe in you, or just leave me alone. I'm
doing my thing.
Speaker 9 (18:00):
The guy al poor the poor kid needs to go
through his process, needs to do focus on the things
that he needs to focus on. He doesn't need someone
else's voice in his head when he's going out there
to kick a ball. He already realizes that the moment's
a big moment. So he's got to process that, get
it out of his brain, and then focus on what
it takes to kick a ball. That's that's all he needs.
He doesn't need to coach literally reminding him right before
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he goes out and kick it. This is a big kick.
You don't need that.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah, No, it's it's like the it's like in Little League.
And you guys don't have kids that are old enough
yet for Little League. But like in Little League, like
my parents that are coaches sometimes like, well, just just
throw a strike, like you know, the kids trying to
throw a strike. That's not actually helping the matter at all.
Just throw a strike, Jimmy doesn't really totally help. All right,
(18:48):
I'll ask you guys. Let me start with use Zach
coaching change with the Dallas Cowboys. What's your reaction to
the move?
Speaker 7 (18:54):
Yeah, I'm fired up.
Speaker 8 (18:56):
I mean, I know a lot of people are, you know,
scratching their heads a little bit, but you shot, he's
been in the building for the last three years, and
you know, I'm I'm just pumped for his opportunity to
get in get in there and get after it. And
you know, he's done a great job in the role
that he was in, and you know, I think he'll do.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
A great job in the role he's going to. He's
a relationship guy.
Speaker 8 (19:14):
He's all about the relationships and building that that tight
knit football team, and I think that's first and foremost
on his list of kind of what to do there.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
So I'm excited for for you know, what he.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Brings to our team, man, the same question to you.
Speaker 9 (19:26):
Yeah, And to go off of what Zach said, the
guys in the locker room that I've worked closely with
him on on the offensive side, I absolutely love him.
They're excited for him. He deserves an opportunity. He's been
looking for an opportunity to be head coach for a
long time. And obviously the process at the Cowboys just
about anything you talk about is different than the rest
of the league, So I can't really fault them for
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not following the process that other teams might have or
that the media thinks they should. So Jerry's done a
really good job picking head coaches in the past. We've
had a lot of success here with head coaches, and
if he thinks shot he's the guy for the job,
I'm inclined to believe him. He's done a good job
picking So I'm excited to work with him and work
for him.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Zacha Notre Dame losing in the National Championship Game, Ye right,
but again getting there and so oftentimes in the past,
people who dislike the domers like they don't belong among
college football's lead. But by winning two games to get
there proved that, the at least to me, proved that
the program is on a different level than previously. As
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in a lum what's your kind of thirty thousand foot view,
what's going on South Bend?
Speaker 8 (20:34):
You know, I went to the game, and being at
the game, I think they've definitely closed the gap. You know,
I don't think they're all the way there, but it
just felt different.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
You know.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
I played in the last National Championship game and we
got steamrolled by Alabama, and just watching the game, it
didn't feel like we were that far off. So I
think they've definitely closed the gap up there, and I
think Marcus and his staff have done a great job
of recruiting, and I think they'll definitely be back in
the mix, you know, for years to come. So, you know,
there's a lot of excitement around South Bend right now.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, It's it's crazy that people are now rooting for
not supposed to. When you were there, everybody hated it
on Notre Dame.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
Oh It Freeman makes us likable, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah, yeah, that's so I've been said. Hey, listen, I'm
the half Fox Sports ready. We appreciate Bounty having you
guys on keep those jackets, wear them with bride. Don't
get anything on them, right, that would be really bad
if you got something on on them. Thanks for joining us, guys.
We appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
Yeah, appreciate it us.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
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first order when you sign up for email. Man, there's
a lot to ingest there there. Dan, It's it is
weird to have this NBA movement in NBA story. And
here's how big the NBA story he is. We hadn't
even paid attention to any of the other deals, not
that there's gargantien deals, but Darren Fox is a big deal.
To san Antonio. That's a big deal to san Antonio
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putting another all star level guard with Victor Webinyama. The
rebuilding of the San Antonio Spurst is not complete, but
that's a that's a big step. That's a that's a
big step for them. It feels like they're one more
big step away, doesn't it. I mean one more like
get one more sort of dude away. They have all
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those picks, They have some young guys, probably a year
away from wembin Yama, you know, being in that top
I don't know whatever in the NBA category. You know,
it's it's weird. It's like the Lakers, I think personally
punted on competing for a championship. Not that they were
going to compete for a championship anyway, but I think
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it's really really unlikely they do now. Dallas put themselves Okay, defensively,
they should be as good as anybody. Still think they
need a point guard, but they're more short term. San
Antonio I think may have changed the landscape of the
West in the long term more with their move.
Speaker 10 (23:12):
Absolutely, But I want to go back to something you said,
and this is something that you said off the top,
and I had this note in the update about the
Mavericks fans, and I think that's what's so intriguing about
this about this trade is I just don't think it's
about championships. I don't think it's about winning, whether it
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be this year or whether it be for years to come.
At some point it probably will be, but I honestly
don't know if there's a time that Dallas is ever
going to get over this, and it may be a
long long time, and there always may be this part
of that sporting community that gets past this deal. And
the reason that I say that on the heels of
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what you're saying with the Spurs is I thought there
are three players in the NBA that, no matter what,
they're not tradeable, they're not movable, They're just they're not
going anywhere for myriad of reasons, but one of them
is the tie to the community or what it would
do to the fan base and what it would do
to the city. I think Jokic is one of them
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in Denver. I think Webbin Yama and San Antonio just
for future greatness, and I felt Luca was the other
in Dallas. And that's what's you know, that's what's so
shocking about this sort of thing. And you're probably right
because now the Spurs are set up where there'd be
no reason for Victor wembin Yama to be to be
dealt at any point, not that he would even be
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in that conversation, but yet, to me, it's just like,
even if the MAVs are are winning, and I think
by guessing from how you've handled this trade over the
last couple of days, is you feel that the Mavericks
are in a better position, but yet fans are turning
in their season tickets. That's crazy, It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I can't but fans and look, I think it's a
really bold move by Nikola. I would also say that
I wouldn't have done the move. I would not have
I think there are other things he could have done,
and we don't know the day to day, but it's
like if the if the thought was, hey, we can't
get him to play defense, and we can't get him
to get in shape, and he's just a lot, it's
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hard to coach, and we're just better off. And remember
Nico Harrison's glimpse into the NBA and whatever you want
to think about his background at Nike, like he worked
handahan with Kobe, and those guys that are Kobe guys,
they that is the only the only way to do
it is the Kobe way, and that's not Luca's way.
Don't get me wrong, I think Luca's this may sound
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sacrilege a better basketball player in many instances than Kobe.
Kobe was difficult to play with, too difficult to coach,
difficult to manage, but he played both ends and he always, always,
always took care of his body. And I would say
that's gotta be the frustration part to where Nico's like, Okay,
if we're going to give him three hundred fifty million
dollars guaranteed four years, why would he ever get in
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shape if he doesn't get in shape now, Why would
he ever play defense? If he doesn't play defense now?
Why would he be more coachable? If he is not coachable? Now? Again,
I think there's other ways in which you can do it,
you know, I think you can leak your frustration. I
think you can. You can have you know, it's not
nicer about have meetings. It's about having the right people
on the staff on the team to get him right.
(26:21):
And maybe they tried all that stuff. I don't know.
We won't know until you know the book comes out
or the miniseries comes out or whatever. But I also
will tell you that like fans immediate reactions, that doesn't
I mean, that doesn't. That doesn't. That does nothing for me.
Speaker 10 (26:38):
I think yeah, And I think that's why you're missing
the boat on it. I think that I think it's
a blind spot because it is. It is. I mean,
somebody took a casket to American Airline Center on Sunday,
but just the visual of it, fans are turning in
their season tickets again for a team that is supposedly
supposed to be better. And that's why I like I
(27:00):
on my show on Sunday, I felt that Nico Harrison
missed out on the responsibility of being the Dallas Mavericks
general manager when you have Luca. And we may disagree
on the responsibilities because I think that there's some people say,
win championships, and win championships. Maybe if they win four
that changes things. But I think that there are a
group of Mavericks fans and maybe a bigger tingon than
(27:21):
we'd like to think, would rather have Luca on their
team because of who he is and what he is
and the type of player that they perceive him to
be sure to actually win a championship.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Listen, that's fair, but nowhere on Earth, okay, nohe on
Earth has has people stay more, has employed longer because
it's cool, right, It just it hasn't right And maybe
to your point, like again, this may sound sacrilegious to
people in Dallas, Jerk Novinsky, how many times they lose
(27:54):
in the first round of the playoffs, just a bunch,
But everybody love Dirk. Everybody loved Dirk, right. You could
even say the same thing about Steve Nashy anything like
super super popular. Whereas they went, they've gone to the
Dallas Mavericks won an NBA championship one year with Dirk,
but he was surrounded by a Jason Kidd. He was
(28:17):
surrounded by a Chorme Butler. I don't think played that
year because he got hurt. He was surrounded by just
a tough bunch of dudes. Because Dirk was seen as
kind of more of a finesse player and not really
a defender and not really a passer. Now he closed
those games, he won that series, but but he wasn't
seen as a guy who will every year get you
(28:38):
in the running to compete for a championship. They just weren't.
So maybe you're right there. Maybe that's how Dallas would
prefer to role. But I think that Nico believes defense
wins championships. Defense makes you consistently competitive at the top
of the NBA, especially in the playoffs. And I still
think there's got to be another deal in it because
they got too many big, big dudes, right with Gaff,
(29:00):
with Lively and with Anthony Davis. But man, good luck.
I mean, Clay is not close to being Clay of old.
But Clay can still, you know, as the fifth best
player in the floor, I can still defend like that's
a really really good defensive team, and they do have
a bunch of scoring pop and they do have two
stars in Anthony Davison and Kyrie Irving. I don't know,
(29:20):
it's it's gonna be fascinating. I think Dallas will be
better in the short term. I think long term, Nico
probably didn't get enough. And again, you're just hoping that
if you're Nico, that Luca has somewhat lebron in La
sort of superstar huge numbers and no real lasting impact
(29:42):
in the playoffs. That's what's happened Lebron. We'll see if
that's what happens with Luca. And what you're saying is
people in Dallas would be okay with that if they
still had Luca. As long as they're in the playoffs,
they lose, whatever doesn't matter. They have Luca.
Speaker 10 (29:53):
H I think they liked having him. I think they
liked that he was theirs. And at twenty five, that's
the tough part. It's differ if he's thirty, and you know,
obviously the feelings would be different if you were further
further along in your career, but at twenty five, he's
still young.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I mean, listen, listen, it's bold. I'm not gonna lie
like it's a bold Like wait what I thought it
was fake too? Everyone I know is like what? And
then you stop and think about, like, well, he must
be a real pain that you know what to deal with.
It's the only thing I can think of, and the
weight thing I think obviously freaks everybody out. Just does.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
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Uh.
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Speaker 3 (30:55):
Real faust. Hold on, Doug, where does the song rank
for you and his songs?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Kendrick Lamar, I honestly first time hearing it, dude.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I'm harkning. I harkened back to the first time I
was ever unemployed twenty twenty. I used to go on
like daily hikes and listen to the hip hop of
the day. This song takes me back to that, like goes.
It was just great being outdoors listening to two of
the greatest uh at their art at the time. Of course,
(31:34):
the reason why their synergy and importance to that song
is that it's Lil Wayne and it features k Dot.
Of course, everyone knows Kendrick Lamar got the call to
do the halftime show, and there was a whole lot
of resentment that Wayne did not get it well.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Being from New Orleans obviously and being a star who's
recorded with just about everybody in the music business. But
I don't know. Do you have to have somebody from
the city might get la did have that whole l
a thing. I don't know. A lot of thought goes
into stuff. It's gonna be interesting though that he's you know,
(32:13):
he's in the Song of the Year is a disc
track that talks about pedophilia and so and and and Drake,
and clearly you're going to sing that during the Super Bowl.
I don't know. We've come a long way, or maybe
we've regressed a long way. I'm not sure. Let's get
to the pres Let's get to a game.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 10 (32:41):
Night there dan the Big Game, and not only here
on Doug Gottlieb on the Doug Gottlieb Show, but also
in New Orleans. The game today is rank them all right, Doug,
rank the three most important players in the Big Game.
It's my favorite part of Super Bowl Week, not the game,
not the pageant tree, all the people who don't have
the rights to say super Bowl to say, come on
(33:05):
for the big Game. It's the big game, guys, Doug.
Who are your three most important players for the Big Game?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Chris Jones at three, Jalen Hurts at two and Pat
Mahomes at one.
Speaker 10 (33:31):
No Saquon on this one.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
We'll see if he has Jalen Hurts touches the ball
on one of the possessions that Eagles have. Saquon Barkley
a more an incredibly exposive player and very very important.
But just in terms of percentage of times in which
you can affect the game, it's it's.
Speaker 10 (33:48):
Less, all right, Doug, Moving off the big game, We'll
get to that a little more on that little later on.
Rank the top three players you see as a Laker.
Top three players, Yes, who's the laker ist of the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
The lakerst of the Lakers? Oh uh, Jerry West, Kobe Bryant,
and number one is Magic Johnson.
Speaker 10 (34:18):
All right, let's do the other side of this big deal.
Rank your top three players you see as a Maverick.
M I thought so as well. This is actually that
one set up this question?
Speaker 2 (34:34):
What it is? Alino? What was the white guy? Fifty
five man? What's his name? He worked at Mavericks Mavericks
of all time?
Speaker 10 (34:47):
Dirk's got to be number one?
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah? Yeah, uh?
Speaker 10 (34:56):
Mark Aguire, Aguire, I don't know if you would go
him or role Blackman.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I wasn't sure Roll black Men played for John McLeod.
Who could be Attre Dame. I'm gonna go Mark Aguire.
Speaker 10 (35:11):
Uh, Luca, would Luca make this list?
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Probably went to the NBA finals. Yeah, we'll go Luca
and and Dirk.
Speaker 10 (35:19):
Okay, Doug, rank your three favorite Super Bowls from the
past games or just games just yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Oh uh, I mean I know Number one is the
Pats come back against the Falcons. That was incredible, Okay, Uh,
Pats Seahawks is three, Pats Seahawks is three. I mean
(35:48):
that was incredible, all right, incredible football game. And then
he would rank fifty eighth in my rank. Yeah, I'm sure.
I'm sure I'll do uh oh wow, I'll do the
last one in New Orleans? Right, Niners Ravens, right, Niners
(36:08):
Ravens two. And then Pats come back against the Falcons
as one.
Speaker 10 (36:12):
All right, and that's game time on the show.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
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Former gentlemanager the Atlanta Falcons. There's a guy who built
up a team that went to a Super Bowl, had
the biggest lead twenty eight to three, then suffered the
biggest collapse in the history of Super Bowl. But we'll
talk to him about the Eagles losing a Super Bowl
and the Chiefs winning Super Bowls. Then we're even losing
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them coming back and continue to be consistent. How hard
is that in comparison to building It a lot of
good stuff to get to, but the story the sports
world continues to be Luka Doncik is now a Laker
is now a Laker. Luca had a press conference today,
he alongside Rob Polinka. Look, Rob Polinka is a friend.
(01:40):
His wife had been when when we were living close
to them in southern California's wife had been my kid's pediatrician.
She's awesome. But I gotta say that was a very
la jacket. Either I'm really really really not feeling the
vibe or not hip, or maybe that jacket wasn't it?
(02:02):
What do you think, Jay Stuke? Because that was a
he had like black I guess the best term from
would be like slacks. And then he had a gray
leather jacket, but it felt like it was too small.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Well, first and foremost, I wouldn't doubt if the outfit
cost ten thousand dollars. I'm always I'm always interested to
see what really rich guys wear they choose to wear.
Steve Bomer is one case on one end of the
spectrum with his khakis and button down, and then there's
Rob Polenka. But there's this like it's almost like he's
(02:37):
about to walk onto a European runway and do some
modeling with this very tight euro jacket. It was actually
pretty off putting, and it shows me how skinny the
guy is too. He weighs like ninety pounds.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Wait wait it was off putting. Why because he's skinny
or because you just didn't like it?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Just the form fitting leather over the black V neck
T shirt that was offended my sensibilities.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, there's a lot going on there that was really interesting.
What's what's maybe more interesting is and obviously he's made
a ton of money, not just being GMA and a
Lakers but agent for the stars, including the late Great
Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
But I mean he and his wife couldn't be in
like real life, nicer people and more humble people. But
that was a damn I make a lot of money.
I got a lot of money sort of sort of look,
wasn't it? And it's it's just weird. Whereas like Luca.
I mean, you feel like that guy would always be
in sweats if need to be using some kind of
sweater and some and some genes, which which also, by
(03:38):
the way, works in LA. One of the things about
LA I think people don't realize is you can, in
fact dress how you want, Like if you want to
go designer stuff, you can, but a sweatshirt and some
sweats are always fine. Truly is. Here's Luca on being
a Laker, especially with this prior relationship to Kobe.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
I'm very happy to be here for his opportunity. He's
the Lakers. It's one of the best clubs in history,
so I'm excited to be here. I remember the exact
moment that I happened. It was an amazing moment. Just
for Kobe to know my name was amazing for me.
You know, I just wish Colby and Jid you were
here to see this moment. And you know, I'm excited
(04:17):
about his new journey and happy to be here.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Let's get to this. This is Luca addressing the talk
about his conditioning when he was with the Mavericks.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
It's a motive. I know it's not true, but it's
a motive, Like I said, you know, I came here
one of the biggest clubs in history sports, so it's
a big motive for a long, long run here.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, okay, so he's motivated, right, He's motivated to show people.
And I guess, like, look, that's awesome. I'll shoot a
couple things down. And I know he said he'll learn
a lot from Lebron, but you're not. I can learn
a lot from Lebron in terms of fitness and diet,
(05:04):
you know, and work ethic. I mean, Luca, obviously, you
don't become that great a basketb play unless you like
to work at it. But in terms of diet, I
mean you could say, hey, Anthony Davis didn't take care
of himself. It took him about three years to figure
it out. Luca is not going to have that long
with co with Lebron, probably a year and a half. Right,
feels like next year becomes the Swan Song, the tour
(05:27):
where he collects all the gifts and then he bows
out and goes off into the sunset. But I find
the whole thing to be interesting, and I don't know
a lot of people have different takeaways to it. The
Lakers getting their next superstar is an easy takeaway. Dallas
trying to get better defensively and win now is a
(05:49):
smart and easy takeaway. I think Nico Harrison, whether you
want to say, going rogue or this was his vision
and this was his belief and this was all his doing,
is essentially what this became about. Don't believe me. Here's
(06:10):
here's Rob Olinka talking about how the trade went down.
We'll get to that in a second. Rob talked about how,
you know, like Nico said, it really was Nico Harrison
pushing this deal and Nico Harrison and again doesn't mean
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it's completely factually true that he didn't talk to Jason
Kidd about it, that it was done kind of only
with one or two calls in terms of teams. I
don't know. I can only take him at his word.
But this is Nico Harrison putting himself on that island saying, hey,
guess what, I truly believe that this is the right
(06:54):
move for our club, like Nico and Nico alone, which
is bold. And no one does that anymore. Who does that,
whoever says the buck stops here? No one. Leaders don't
do that in politics, you know, they'll go like yep
I did that. Here's here's Rob Polinka talking about the
(07:17):
trade going down.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
This all started with the coffee in Dallas where Nico
approached us with the concept. And because there was a
partnership and a history of traveling the world between Nico
and myself working around Kobe Bryant, there was a fabric
of trust in the discussions.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
There's a fabric of trust in the discussions. Hey, look,
as I trusted Nico, he trusted me. I wasn't going
to share it. We thought he was crazy, and then
he ended up wanting to pull off the deal. Look,
it's it's really simple. Either he knows that you can't
win or function long term at a at a high
(07:55):
level with Luka Doncic, or he miscalculated and he'll be
out of a job. That's kind of it, isn't it.
This is not one of those, And I understand that
the truth lies in the gray area. Right, the Mavericks
don't go to another NBA finals, it doesn't mean this
(08:17):
was a bad move. If the Mavericks truly are competitive
and they're able to balance their books and they don't
get lopped into the three hundred and fifty million dollars
payroll and again, like, even with this deal the Lakers,
they can't give him the Supermax. They can't by rule.
Now there's a way in which you can kind of
manipulate it. He'll still make close to same money and
all the Nike money, ENDORSEMENTNDY money and whatever. But this
(08:44):
is one where I think the Mavericks think they can
be more consistent, more competitive, more often than they could
if they had Luca. And though we should judge by
the Lakers and judge by Luca's success, the fact is
that it would look far different different Luca's time with
Dallas as opposed to Luca's time with the Lakers, because
(09:04):
had he stayed with Dallas, he would have signed a
three hundred fifty million dollar extension which would have been
not next year, but the following year would have gone
into effect. And then it would dramatically affected how they
could have how they could manipulate within the cap. But
everyone's going to judge it based upon what happens this year. Unfairly,
so everyone's going to judge based upon this year. Don't
(09:26):
believe me. I give you Saquon Barkley, right. The argument
against signing Saquon Barkley was not over how much he
was going to make this year, or how much any
of these guys were going to make this year. Remember
the argument last offseason, not this passed offseason, off season before,
where all of these running backs got together hopped on
the phone like this isn't right. It was over did
(09:49):
they deserve a three year guaranteed contract at upwards of twelve, thirteen,
fourteen to fifteen million dollars. That was the argument. And
so the reality is that the Giants will be proven
right or wrong, just like the Raiders will be proven
(10:10):
right or wrong based upon what happens at the running
back position next year, in the following year in Green
Bay and in Philadelphia, and there are other teams like this.
That's real. But in perception, it's gonna be about this year.
And that's where Dallas can absolutely win kind of the
(10:30):
hearts and minds in this trade, because for the Lakers,
this is a white flag. We weren't winning anything this
season anyway, let's not kid ourselves. They may go get
a Mitchell Robinson and they may go get somebody else
to protect the rim and act like they can really compete,
but the reality is that that's just not a championship roster,
and I don't think anybody would truly argue with you.
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But with Luca, the thought is for the next five
six years. I mean, Rob Polinka is sitting pretty. They
can just hey, I'm just putting together a new roster.
And this year didn't work, Next year, all right, Then
after Lebron's gone, it's a whole new team. It's Lucas team.
We put the team around him. Same thing could be
said for you know, for Eagles, Giants, Raiders, anybody who's
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had acquired or got rid of a star running back
who wanted a three year, guaranteed deal or more. My
takeaway for the deal is that the reason it seems
so different than other deals is this is how trades
used to be done, and frankly, this is how trades
(11:35):
mostly should be done. And that you have the NBA,
which has become a player driven league. Heck, even b
Aaron Fox, right, Anthony Davis, Remember Anthony Davis is a
member of the New Orleans Hornets he or Pelicans, I
don't remember which they were when he was traded, and
he wanted out, but he only wanted to play for
the Lakers. And so there's a long drawn out saga.
(11:57):
They couldn't trade from one season. They waited to the
office he's and finally they got it done. They gave
most of the kitchen sing form. The same could be
said for Darren Fox, who a week week and a
half ago said I want out of Sacramento. Now he's
in San Antonio again. Players forcing their way out of
their current situation, which is what Miles Garrett's trying to
do in Cleveland. But this is a trade to where
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like it isn't about what the player want to do,
It's about what we want to do for our franchise.
It's bold, it's unique, and credit Nico Harrison. He's taking
it on as if it's his and his IDLO.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
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Speaker 2 (12:45):
Stug gott leave Show Fox Sports Radio. Take a listen
to this. Travis Kelcey asked a really interesting question last night.
Last night, was it opening night? They call it opening
I used to be Media Day and then it was
Media Night. That is opening night. Travis Kelsey asked the
media if he could ask one question, and here's what
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it was.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
If I could ask the media one question, why are
you guys leaning into this whole ref thing?
Speaker 7 (13:13):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Like, why are you guys leaning into it? That's all
I got, though, I'll give you the answer because suddenly
conspiracy theories are cool. That's what it is. I mean, Look,
the officiating is crummy. I can tell you. As a
college basketball coach, like when you sit there and watch,
you're like, man, it does feel very personal to you, right,
(13:35):
That's like just the reality to it. It does feel
very personal to you. And then you step back and
you talk to other coaches like, yeah, it was bad.
Here as bad, there as bad. You know, we hold
guys to a way higher stated than the reality is.
It's just officiating is not that easy. Guys do make mistakes.
I don't. I can't explain how that wasn't a first
down for the Buffalo Bills. I can't. And even though
(13:57):
most ardent Kansasity, the Chiefs fan, they're like, well, you
couldn't see the ball, Like, okay, dude, was it a
first time? Yeah, but you couldn't see the ball? Okay?
But why why is the media running with it? Because
the media is nothing more than than fans with more access,
(14:19):
and somehow conspiracy theories have beencome really cool. I'll tell
you what's really cool. Bounty leather jacket, Bounty letterman jackets,
That's what it is. That's that's really cool. Why do
I say that? Because seven time All Pro guard Zach
Martin and Brandon Aubrey is a Pro Bowl kicker, are
both joining us on behalf of Bounty, and they have
(14:40):
these really cool bounty letterman jackets. Zach, I know you've.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
Done a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah, I know you've done a lot of things in
your life, Notre Dame Dallas Cowboys. But what's it like
to wear the bee not a star?
Speaker 7 (14:53):
He It's pretty comfortable. Man.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
We're here.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
We're here with Bounty this week. Uh.
Speaker 8 (14:57):
You know, obviously you can't have football without wings and
wings with without uh without bounty. So we're here making
sure everyone's cleaned up on game day.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Uh. Brandon, how about you? Uh? You know, making the
Pro Bowls one thing, but but being a bounty boy,
that's a whole other other level of success.
Speaker 9 (15:12):
Absolutely takes me to that next level. You know, thousands, millions,
billions of wings are non Super Bowl Sunday, So it
just makes sense to keep yourself clean with some bounty.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
All right, let's work backwards, Zach barton that offensive line
room when you say, when they go, hey, lineman, what
wings do you want? What's your order?
Speaker 8 (15:31):
I'm a flats I'm going flats, definitely, definitely right if
you people saying you're different, if you're a flats guy,
that's what I've been.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
Told all day today.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Well what's different? But you like what you like?
Speaker 7 (15:43):
Right exactly? What flat flats with branch?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Flat branch, so regular like regular buffalo sauce.
Speaker 8 (15:50):
Yeah, mild garlic, spicy garlic was my go to.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, but what about what about tickers? Brandon, I'm thinking
forking knife for your wings.
Speaker 9 (15:58):
That's my hands clean and prissy. I'll dig in there
whatever whatever is in the locker room. You know, kicker
is usually not the highest paid position in the locker room,
so I'm usually just eating one other people bring in.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
That's uh, that's fair enough, Zach. I got to ask you,
being a cowboy, what are your thoughts on Luca now
being a Laker.
Speaker 8 (16:17):
Yeah, it's weird, Like I've been asked that a couple
of times a day. And like, I'm not a huge
basketball fan NBA fan, but it is. It is crazy
when you have got a guy who's the face of
your franchise and really the face of the city shipped
off for you know, hopefully it works out, but it's
hard to see right now.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, it really is. Uh, Brandon, I gotta I gotta
ask you. Okay, so we're getting ready for the super Bowl.
The highest pressure kick you've ever kicked. Again, they're not
all the same. It doesn't necessarily mean what was accomplished
on the kick for you? What what kick did you
feel the most pressure kicking?
Speaker 9 (16:55):
Yeah, I'd say my first kick in training camp in
front of the team in Dallas. Well, I guess it
was auction hard. But before the practice, Jerry Jones came
up to me and Tristan who's the other kicker there,
and just introduced himself and said, for lack of a
better word, don't screw this up. There's a little less
PG than that, but told us there's a lot of
guys out here watching you, and he came out here
(17:16):
just to watch you guys. And but then he said,
I'm just messing with you. Go out there and enjoy it,
and have fun and you guys both belong here. But
absolutely the time you're going in front of a new team,
it's at the NFL level, it's a new thing. It's
the dream I've been chasing. Here's my opportunity. And I'd
say that first kick was definitely the most pressure I felt.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
It's interesting you bring that up because and Zach, I
know you watched the college football playoff, Brandon, I'm watching
Texas play I think it was Georgia and Steve Sarkjian
like grabs his kicker and like, you know, gives them
like a I believe in you. Whatever for you? Is
it better if somebody grabs you and gives you, hey,
(17:56):
I believe in you, or just leave me alone. I'm
doing my thing.
Speaker 9 (18:00):
The guy al poor the poor kid needs to go
through his process, needs to do focus on the things
that he needs to focus on. He doesn't need someone
else's voice in his head when he's going out there
to kick a ball. He already realizes that the moment's
a big moment. So he's got to process that, get
it out of his brain, and then focus on what
it takes to kick a ball. That's that's all he needs.
He doesn't need to coach literally reminding him right before
(18:23):
he goes out and kick it. This is a big kick.
You don't need that.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah, No, it's it's like the it's like in Little League.
And you guys don't have kids that are old enough
yet for Little League. But like in Little League, like
my parents that are coaches sometimes like, well, just just
throw a strike, like you know, the kids trying to
throw a strike. That's not actually helping the matter at all.
Just throw a strike, Jimmy doesn't really totally help. All right,
(18:48):
I'll ask you guys. Let me start with use Zach
coaching change with the Dallas Cowboys. What's your reaction to
the move?
Speaker 7 (18:54):
Yeah, I'm fired up.
Speaker 8 (18:56):
I mean, I know a lot of people are, you know,
scratching their heads a little bit, but you shot, he's
been in the building for the last three years, and
you know, I'm I'm just pumped for his opportunity to
get in get in there and get after it. And
you know, he's done a great job in the role
that he was in, and you know, I think he'll do.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
A great job in the role he's going to. He's
a relationship guy.
Speaker 8 (19:14):
He's all about the relationships and building that that tight
knit football team, and I think that's first and foremost
on his list of kind of what to do there.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
So I'm excited for for you know, what he.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Brings to our team, man, the same question to you.
Speaker 9 (19:26):
Yeah, And to go off of what Zach said, the
guys in the locker room that I've worked closely with
him on on the offensive side, I absolutely love him.
They're excited for him. He deserves an opportunity. He's been
looking for an opportunity to be head coach for a
long time. And obviously the process at the Cowboys just
about anything you talk about is different than the rest
of the league, So I can't really fault them for
(19:47):
not following the process that other teams might have or
that the media thinks they should. So Jerry's done a
really good job picking head coaches in the past. We've
had a lot of success here with head coaches, and
if he thinks shot he's the guy for the job,
I'm inclined to believe him. He's done a good job
picking So I'm excited to work with him and work
for him.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Zacha Notre Dame losing in the National Championship Game, Ye right,
but again getting there and so oftentimes in the past,
people who dislike the domers like they don't belong among
college football's lead. But by winning two games to get
there proved that, the at least to me, proved that
the program is on a different level than previously. As
(20:29):
in a lum what's your kind of thirty thousand foot view,
what's going on South Bend?
Speaker 8 (20:34):
You know, I went to the game, and being at
the game, I think they've definitely closed the gap. You know,
I don't think they're all the way there, but it
just felt different.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
You know.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
I played in the last National Championship game and we
got steamrolled by Alabama, and just watching the game, it
didn't feel like we were that far off. So I
think they've definitely closed the gap up there, and I
think Marcus and his staff have done a great job
of recruiting, and I think they'll definitely be back in
the mix, you know, for years to come. So, you know,
there's a lot of excitement around South Bend right now.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, It's it's crazy that people are now rooting for
not supposed to. When you were there, everybody hated it
on Notre Dame.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
Oh It Freeman makes us likable, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah, yeah, that's so I've been said. Hey, listen, I'm
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Speaker 7 (21:23):
Yeah, appreciate it us.
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first order when you sign up for email. Man, there's
a lot to ingest there there. Dan, It's it is
weird to have this NBA movement in NBA story. And
here's how big the NBA story he is. We hadn't
even paid attention to any of the other deals, not
that there's gargantien deals, but Darren Fox is a big deal.
To san Antonio. That's a big deal to san Antonio
(22:11):
putting another all star level guard with Victor Webinyama. The
rebuilding of the San Antonio Spurst is not complete, but
that's a that's a big step. That's a that's a
big step for them. It feels like they're one more
big step away, doesn't it. I mean one more like
get one more sort of dude away. They have all
(22:34):
those picks, They have some young guys, probably a year
away from wembin Yama, you know, being in that top
I don't know whatever in the NBA category. You know,
it's it's weird. It's like the Lakers, I think personally
punted on competing for a championship. Not that they were
going to compete for a championship anyway, but I think
(22:54):
it's really really unlikely they do now. Dallas put themselves Okay, defensively,
they should be as good as anybody. Still think they
need a point guard, but they're more short term. San
Antonio I think may have changed the landscape of the
West in the long term more with their move.
Speaker 10 (23:12):
Absolutely, But I want to go back to something you said,
and this is something that you said off the top,
and I had this note in the update about the
Mavericks fans, and I think that's what's so intriguing about
this about this trade is I just don't think it's
about championships. I don't think it's about winning, whether it
(23:33):
be this year or whether it be for years to come.
At some point it probably will be, but I honestly
don't know if there's a time that Dallas is ever
going to get over this, and it may be a
long long time, and there always may be this part
of that sporting community that gets past this deal. And
the reason that I say that on the heels of
(23:54):
what you're saying with the Spurs is I thought there
are three players in the NBA that, no matter what,
they're not tradeable, they're not movable, They're just they're not
going anywhere for myriad of reasons, but one of them
is the tie to the community or what it would
do to the fan base and what it would do
to the city. I think Jokic is one of them
(24:15):
in Denver. I think Webbin Yama and San Antonio just
for future greatness, and I felt Luca was the other
in Dallas. And that's what's you know, that's what's so
shocking about this sort of thing. And you're probably right
because now the Spurs are set up where there'd be
no reason for Victor wembin Yama to be to be
dealt at any point, not that he would even be
(24:35):
in that conversation, but yet, to me, it's just like,
even if the MAVs are are winning, and I think
by guessing from how you've handled this trade over the
last couple of days, is you feel that the Mavericks
are in a better position, but yet fans are turning
in their season tickets. That's crazy, It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I can't but fans and look, I think it's a
really bold move by Nikola. I would also say that
I wouldn't have done the move. I would not have
I think there are other things he could have done,
and we don't know the day to day, but it's
like if the if the thought was, hey, we can't
get him to play defense, and we can't get him
to get in shape, and he's just a lot, it's
(25:17):
hard to coach, and we're just better off. And remember
Nico Harrison's glimpse into the NBA and whatever you want
to think about his background at Nike, like he worked
handahan with Kobe, and those guys that are Kobe guys,
they that is the only the only way to do
it is the Kobe way, and that's not Luca's way.
Don't get me wrong, I think Luca's this may sound
(25:39):
sacrilege a better basketball player in many instances than Kobe.
Kobe was difficult to play with, too difficult to coach,
difficult to manage, but he played both ends and he always, always,
always took care of his body. And I would say
that's gotta be the frustration part to where Nico's like, Okay,
if we're going to give him three hundred fifty million
dollars guaranteed four years, why would he ever get in
(26:01):
shape if he doesn't get in shape now, Why would
he ever play defense? If he doesn't play defense now?
Why would he be more coachable? If he is not coachable? Now? Again,
I think there's other ways in which you can do it,
you know, I think you can leak your frustration. I
think you can. You can have you know, it's not
nicer about have meetings. It's about having the right people
on the staff on the team to get him right.
(26:21):
And maybe they tried all that stuff. I don't know.
We won't know until you know the book comes out
or the miniseries comes out or whatever. But I also
will tell you that like fans immediate reactions, that doesn't
I mean, that doesn't. That doesn't. That does nothing for me.
Speaker 10 (26:38):
I think yeah, And I think that's why you're missing
the boat on it. I think that I think it's
a blind spot because it is. It is. I mean,
somebody took a casket to American Airline Center on Sunday,
but just the visual of it, fans are turning in
their season tickets again for a team that is supposedly
supposed to be better. And that's why I like I
(27:00):
on my show on Sunday, I felt that Nico Harrison
missed out on the responsibility of being the Dallas Mavericks
general manager when you have Luca. And we may disagree
on the responsibilities because I think that there's some people say,
win championships, and win championships. Maybe if they win four
that changes things. But I think that there are a
group of Mavericks fans and maybe a bigger tingon than
(27:21):
we'd like to think, would rather have Luca on their
team because of who he is and what he is
and the type of player that they perceive him to
be sure to actually win a championship.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Listen, that's fair, but nowhere on Earth, okay, nohe on
Earth has has people stay more, has employed longer because
it's cool, right, It just it hasn't right And maybe
to your point, like again, this may sound sacrilegious to
people in Dallas, Jerk Novinsky, how many times they lose
(27:54):
in the first round of the playoffs, just a bunch,
But everybody love Dirk. Everybody loved Dirk, right. You could
even say the same thing about Steve Nashy anything like
super super popular. Whereas they went, they've gone to the
Dallas Mavericks won an NBA championship one year with Dirk,
but he was surrounded by a Jason Kidd. He was
(28:17):
surrounded by a Chorme Butler. I don't think played that
year because he got hurt. He was surrounded by just
a tough bunch of dudes. Because Dirk was seen as
kind of more of a finesse player and not really
a defender and not really a passer. Now he closed
those games, he won that series, but but he wasn't
seen as a guy who will every year get you
(28:38):
in the running to compete for a championship. They just weren't.
So maybe you're right there. Maybe that's how Dallas would
prefer to role. But I think that Nico believes defense
wins championships. Defense makes you consistently competitive at the top
of the NBA, especially in the playoffs. And I still
think there's got to be another deal in it because
they got too many big, big dudes, right with Gaff,
(29:00):
with Lively and with Anthony Davis. But man, good luck.
I mean, Clay is not close to being Clay of old.
But Clay can still, you know, as the fifth best
player in the floor, I can still defend like that's
a really really good defensive team, and they do have
a bunch of scoring pop and they do have two
stars in Anthony Davison and Kyrie Irving. I don't know,
(29:20):
it's it's gonna be fascinating. I think Dallas will be
better in the short term. I think long term, Nico
probably didn't get enough. And again, you're just hoping that
if you're Nico, that Luca has somewhat lebron in La
sort of superstar huge numbers and no real lasting impact
(29:42):
in the playoffs. That's what's happened Lebron. We'll see if
that's what happens with Luca. And what you're saying is
people in Dallas would be okay with that if they
still had Luca. As long as they're in the playoffs,
they lose, whatever doesn't matter. They have Luca.
Speaker 10 (29:53):
H I think they liked having him. I think they
liked that he was theirs. And at twenty five, that's
the tough part. It's differ if he's thirty, and you know,
obviously the feelings would be different if you were further
further along in your career, but at twenty five, he's
still young.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I mean, listen, listen, it's bold. I'm not gonna lie
like it's a bold Like wait what I thought it
was fake too? Everyone I know is like what? And
then you stop and think about, like, well, he must
be a real pain that you know what to deal with.
It's the only thing I can think of, and the
weight thing I think obviously freaks everybody out. Just does.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
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Speaker 3 (30:55):
Real faust. Hold on, Doug, where does the song rank
for you and his songs?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Kendrick Lamar, I honestly first time hearing it, dude.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I'm harkning. I harkened back to the first time I
was ever unemployed twenty twenty. I used to go on
like daily hikes and listen to the hip hop of
the day. This song takes me back to that, like goes.
It was just great being outdoors listening to two of
the greatest uh at their art at the time. Of course,
(31:34):
the reason why their synergy and importance to that song
is that it's Lil Wayne and it features k Dot.
Of course, everyone knows Kendrick Lamar got the call to
do the halftime show, and there was a whole lot
of resentment that Wayne did not get it well.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Being from New Orleans obviously and being a star who's
recorded with just about everybody in the music business. But
I don't know. Do you have to have somebody from
the city might get la did have that whole l
a thing. I don't know. A lot of thought goes
into stuff. It's gonna be interesting though that he's you know,
(32:13):
he's in the Song of the Year is a disc
track that talks about pedophilia and so and and and Drake,
and clearly you're going to sing that during the Super Bowl.
I don't know. We've come a long way, or maybe
we've regressed a long way. I'm not sure. Let's get
to the pres Let's get to a game.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 10 (32:41):
Night there dan the Big Game, and not only here
on Doug Gottlieb on the Doug Gottlieb Show, but also
in New Orleans. The game today is rank them all right, Doug,
rank the three most important players in the Big Game.
It's my favorite part of Super Bowl Week, not the game,
not the pageant tree, all the people who don't have
the rights to say super Bowl to say, come on
(33:05):
for the big Game. It's the big game, guys, Doug.
Who are your three most important players for the Big Game?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Chris Jones at three, Jalen Hurts at two and Pat
Mahomes at one.
Speaker 10 (33:31):
No Saquon on this one.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
We'll see if he has Jalen Hurts touches the ball
on one of the possessions that Eagles have. Saquon Barkley
a more an incredibly exposive player and very very important.
But just in terms of percentage of times in which
you can affect the game, it's it's.
Speaker 10 (33:48):
Less, all right, Doug, Moving off the big game, We'll
get to that a little more on that little later on.
Rank the top three players you see as a Laker.
Top three players, Yes, who's the laker ist of the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
The lakerst of the Lakers? Oh uh, Jerry West, Kobe Bryant,
and number one is Magic Johnson.
Speaker 10 (34:18):
All right, let's do the other side of this big deal.
Rank your top three players you see as a Maverick.
M I thought so as well. This is actually that
one set up this question?
Speaker 2 (34:34):
What it is? Alino? What was the white guy? Fifty
five man? What's his name? He worked at Mavericks Mavericks
of all time?
Speaker 10 (34:47):
Dirk's got to be number one?
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah? Yeah, uh?
Speaker 10 (34:56):
Mark Aguire, Aguire, I don't know if you would go
him or role Blackman.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I wasn't sure Roll black Men played for John McLeod.
Who could be Attre Dame. I'm gonna go Mark Aguire.
Speaker 10 (35:11):
Uh, Luca, would Luca make this list?
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Probably went to the NBA finals. Yeah, we'll go Luca
and and Dirk.
Speaker 10 (35:19):
Okay, Doug, rank your three favorite Super Bowls from the
past games or just games just yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Oh uh, I mean I know Number one is the
Pats come back against the Falcons. That was incredible, Okay, Uh,
Pats Seahawks is three, Pats Seahawks is three. I mean
(35:48):
that was incredible, all right, incredible football game. And then
he would rank fifty eighth in my rank. Yeah, I'm sure.
I'm sure I'll do uh oh wow, I'll do the
last one in New Orleans? Right, Niners Ravens, right, Niners
(36:08):
Ravens two. And then Pats come back against the Falcons
as one.
Speaker 10 (36:12):
All right, and that's game time on the show.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
All right, we get you ready for the excellence of
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