March 17, 2025 • 38 mins
Doug gives his reaction to the picks made by the NCAA Tournament Selection committee. Doug gives out the one thing that could make or break a team's college basketball season. Doug welcomes college hoops analyst Jeff Goodman on to discuss all of the main headlines from the NCAA Tournament. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "Big Deal, Little Deal or No Deal?".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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should be Hey, welcome in and it's good to see
my guys right from left to right on my own
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kind of visual dial. I got my guy Dan Bayer,
who along with Aaron Torres He and at hosted the
Bracket Show yesterday. Well when the bracket was revealed, they
were on Fox Sports Radio yesterday, and of course Jason
Stewart RC producer and I was Sam who. I don't
know if it's because it's Saint Patrick's Day, that's why
you're wearing all your green? Yes, we got all your
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green on Nobody's pinching you. Uh, but yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Chan's got a green hat on.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Jane's got a green hat on. I got my Green
Bay Phoenix quarter zip. Plus I live in Green Bay.
I think I'm good all times. And then Jace, you
were there in green There, you got green there.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, I've got my T shirt. I need to shout
out to Kevin Figures, he's my guy. We both were
a huge fan of the YouTube video about the Leprechawn
in Alabama and the news coverage. And I've got a
shirt underneath it says, uh, I want to go And
it's a it's an amateur sketch of the Leprechawn.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Amateur sketch. That's great.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, we remember case people were confused that it might
be a professional sketch, amateur sketch. I want the gold
who he has seen his say Leprecaun saying.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Yeah, that's one of those early two videos now classic,
one of the originals, only at full throated and acting
out there.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, Okay, I don't even know what the hell you
guys are talking about. I'm trying to do a sports
show here, Like, when did I become the voice of
reason and the voice of balance?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
We'll show it to you in the break.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I don't want to watch it. I don't. I have
way too many things on my mind that have nothing
to do with some YouTube video of a leprechan which
may or may not be offensive to people I don't
even know anymore. Here's what I want to talk about.
I got two things on selection Sunday. Actually three. Number
one is yeah, I didn't. I kind of didn't realize
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it until I was at a what is it called
a concert festival in LA called Rolling Loud, at which
I apparently was the oldest and least drug induced person there.
My son and I were at least drug headliner was
Playboy Cardi. Anyway, so my son Hayes, shout out to Hazy.
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He's got his sixteenth birthday this week. He's on spring break,
and so I said, hey, man, you want to go
to like He's a huge Playboy Cardi fan. The opium guys.
It's opium music. Anyway. It was, he had a great time,
he was in the mosh pit. I was just making
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sure that my dude was okay. We had a decent time. Anyway.
I was looking down at my phone and all of
a sudden, people are texting me like, what do you
think of this? In the bract like I didn't, don't
get me wrong. I got home and eventually I looked
at the bracket some interesting stuff and I'll share it
with you in moments. But first time in twenty three
years I hadn't been involved in some sort of bracket
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show kind of freeing. On the other hand, it was like, man,
now I'm actually coaching in college basketball, and now it
doesn't matter like I got to be. I got to
get in the tournament as soon as possible, So then
I'll say and I get back to watching and caring
about the brackets. But I think what's fascinating about this
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is the statement made by the selection committee that I
don't know what's been discussed because I also didn't watch
all the talkie talk shows, which goes completely in line
with what I said about college football and what college
football's bracket didn't do. If you remember, I was the
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one saying, hey, Alabama should be in the college football playoff,
Hey Ole Miss should be in the college football playoff.
Hey I'm not sure LSU shouldn't be in the college
football Playoff, and people have gone like, well, look at
all the SEC did like, Okay, would they have been
better than Indiana and SMU and Boise State. Of course
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they would have been. Do you know why because they
have and spend more money on their players, on their coaches,
on everything, and they have an overall better product. They
have an overall better product. Like, look, we're all looking
for deals. I've told you guys this before. I am
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not shy about it. It doesn't matter if I shop
high end at Alo or Viori or Lululemon. Right you
click on Lulu Lemon's website, and what's the second click?
I always do. There's one that says we've made too much.
Why I don't care if it's out of style. It's like,
I'm not they care about style. I just want something
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that's really comfortable and you know, kind of that yoga
e fit. And yeah, I think it's overpriced, so I
want to get it at like thirty percent off.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Okay, So we're all that way, We all like, oh man,
there's a rebate on twenty twenty four vehicles. Granted twenty
twenty four vehicles. The second you drive it off the lot,
they always decrease in value. They plummet in value when
it's a year older model, right, But we're all looking
for a deal. We all think that everything's overpriced, everything's
and we're probably right. But the other part to it
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is they have better players, and maybe not better players,
they have more really really good ones. Because the money
is spread out overall, it doesn't mean that on a
given day you see San Diego that's probably spent. I
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would say one hundred and fifty to two hundred thousand
dollars on their roster. They have a lot of Division
two players. They've done an amazing job of building that
program that elevated from you know, twenty whatever years ago
they were Division I think we're Division two national champions,
not long ago anyway, to being a top team in
the Big West, which there are million dollar teams in
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the Big West, but regardless of which, Like you, it
doesn't mean they can't beat Michigan. And Michigan's payroll is
probably three million dollars. But if they play twenty times,
Michigan's going to beat him eighteen. Do you know why?
Because Michigan has better players. They're bigger at every position.
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They're bigger and more skilled, and their coach, Dusty May
has been at the lower level at Florid Atlantic and
built it over time, and he's he's really really good.
It doesn't mean that what Eric and those guys at
U S C. Canego hasn't done. But the point is
that the selection committee got it right. From this standpoint,
we can bitch and moan about how it looks optically
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to have fourteen SEC teams and Oklahoma and Texas two
of the bottom teams. See Oklahoma, I'd say their payroll
is probably million five to two million, which is again
bottom end of the SEC. But that league is a
gauntlet because they spent more money on coaches, more money
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on facilities, more money on training, and more money on players.
They have overall the better teams. Now we can pick
and choose which one we want and which team should
be in. And is it silly that North Carolina is
in and West Virginia is not. West Virginia spends a
lot of money. They have a huge NIL budget, probably
greater than even the North Carolina. Okay, and I think
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that it was it's a joke. Of course, West Virginia
belongs in the NCAA Tournament. And I'll get to why
they're not very very shortly. But the point is that
the Slacks Committee got it right. Where the College Football
Committee got it wrong is that select committee didn't try
and win people over and do things that we had
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all called for to be the right way to do it. Remember,
in college football, Boise State got a buy why because
they built this insane model, insane model where you had
to be a conference champion and win your conference championship
game in order to get a buye. So for twenty
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years people always wanted Hawaii one year, Cincinnati one year,
Boise one year, you know, in a BCS or a
Big Bowl game, or even in the college football Playoff.
And they went from that to putting them as a
top four seed, which was a joke. Right, Indiana was
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in and SMU was in. Why because well, they wanted
to be fair. F being fair if the goal of
the college football Playoff, much like the goal of the
NCAA Tournament, is to find the best teams. College basketball
got it right. College football got it wrong. College basketball
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got it right. In college it doesn't mean that spending
the most money always gives you the best team that
can be. There can be chemistry issues. There's something going
on at Kansas because they spent a ton of money
in that team. Their point guard win a national championship,
Their centers like six year center. Their coach is a
Hall of Fame coach. He's amazing. Right. They went out
and got Wisconsin's best player from last year and he
barely plays. And I think they'll be okay, we'll win
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some games here in March. But the point is that
spending money isn't the end all be all. But when
the whole conference, whole conference spends two to three x
of what most conferences spend on their players, you're going
to have a better product. You're going to have a
better product.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
It's it's like a Ferrari or a Porsche, right, and
these cars that are handmade, right, they're going to be well.
Occasionally you get something that that's faulty. Of course, not
there's no perfect, but by and large, when you use
better things and you make it by hand, and you
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spend more time and you spend more money in terms
of your overall investment in each car you make and
each piece of clothes thing you make, it's can you
buy a suit off the rack and it's fine, sure,
it might fit you great, but a tailor made suit.
It costs more. Why because somebody has to spend expert
detail in making sure it's just right for you, and
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that suit is always going to be better than the
off the rack one. Which that's all we're doing here, right.
Here's the other thing that you found yesterday. Those last
couple games don't matter, but they do matter, And you're like, well,
that's a contradictory statement. It is. It doesn't matter in
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the How silly is it that Wisconsin is a three
seed Michigan's a five seed, And it's not like you
can't give me the Well they did it because they
wanted Wisconsin to play in Milwaukee. They're not. They played
each other on a Sunday. They're in the same league,
they're somewhere in the neighborhood of the same seed line.
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And all you have to do is like, hey, Wisconsin wins,
let's put them as the three. If Michigan wins, we
put them at the three. Right, wouldn't that be simple?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
But they didn't really pay attention to the outcome on Sunday,
that's pretty obvious. On the other hand, they were watching
how do I know North Carolina got in and West
Virginia did not. And and here's the here's the key
elements of it. Everybody's caught up on the numbers. They
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only had one win versus the net. You know, what
is it to quadrant one net wins or whatever right
as opposed to West Virginia that had a clearly better resume,
clearly a better resume. And then poor Bubba Cunningham. And
just for full disclosure, Bubba was the ad at Tulsa.
Bubba's the ad at Carolina. Bubba's a great dude. And
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while I laughed on social media about him not being
in the room for North Carolina, the fact is he's
not in the room and it's kind of an impossible
answer for him to have, like why I've actually done
the selection process, okay, And people say, well, it's about
this now much about that number?
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Bold?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Do you know what it's about. It's about whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
It to be about.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
They have all the people in the committee, and then
you vote and it cuts it down, and then you
have all the bublic committee and then you vote and
you vote by yourself. You can use whatever stat you want,
whatever thing you want. And if you're sitting there and
you're trying to figure out, and you watch West Virginia
lose to Colorado. Tad Bills a tremendous coach. I think
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he's the most successful coach Colorado's ever had. But they
were bad this year, right, you know, one and done
last or they had one and done last year. They
lost a bunch of players. I don't think they have
a bunch of nil everything's invested into football.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
They were bad.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
And so when you get together to meet and West
Virginia was on the list of probably in and then
you watch them lose to Colorado, and then you watch
North Carolina give away a game to Duke, and Duke
is your number one overall seed. Granted, Cooper Flag didn't
play okay, but I gonna have a lane violation otherwise
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if he makes a second free throw, they at least
go to overtime. So again, we can say it's about numbers,
but it's not. It's about what you've seen last, what
you see first, and what you see last. And think
about that indelibate impression of you're getting ready to vote.
And at the end of the day, you can use
whatever number, whatever skill there is. There is no hard
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and fast rules of what you have to vote for.
They give the members of the committee all of these
different metrics. Is metrices, metrices, metrics, metrics is metrices, Metrice's right?
Can I get a thumb up?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I would just say metrics, but I don't know if
maybe I'm wrong case do uh metrics Yep?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Not metrices.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Yeah, I think it's just metro.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Okay, metri they give them all. No metri would be
singular or plural. Matrices. Yeah, matrix not metrices.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
It's a matrix.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
No, it's not a metrics.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
You're right.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Somebody help us out that knows more. Anyway, they give
them all of these kind of guides with metrics that
you can use to explain away who and why.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
You picked who and why you picked metric, metrics is
the plural, it's metric, and that it's metrics.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
They give them all these metrics that you can use
as a guide to pick who you want to pick.
But you can pick whoever you want to pick. And
I think most people, most human beings are sitting there gone.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Well.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I just saw Carolina lose by a point to Duke,
and I think Duke's awesome. And a couple of days
days ago, I saw West Virginia lose to Colorado, and
I think Colorado stinks so North Carolina. It really is
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that simple, Like we want to make it about well,
it's the ACC, it's about North Carolina. It's about I
think it's really as simple as you watch a team
on a Thursday in an empty gym at the Big
at the Big twelve tournament that you'd like to see
win a game, and they lose to Colorado. And then
two nights, two days later, you're watching Duke Carolina hard
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fought game and Carolina kind of found a way to
split up all of themselves but lose a really close game.
You're like, yeah, that one looks like an NCAA tournament theme.
The other one does not. I think that's the reality
of what happened. I think that's that's actually what I think.
That's actually kind of what what happened there. I mean,
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that's again my opinion, but I've also in h I've
also been a part of it Big Doug Gottlieb Show
here on Fox Sports.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
At Rado Doug the Silly thing about Michigan Wisconsin. Yes,
Michigan actually finished in TI for second, Wisconsin finished in
TY for third, and Michigan won the conference tournament, so
I don't get the seating there at all.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Well, again, that's when they go back to non conference stuff. Whatever.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Wisconsin finished the season a little hotter.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Michigan coach lost a few games.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
There down to make me from Penn State at home.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
On Michigan also beat Wisconsin. Uh in the regular season. Yeah,
So I don't get that.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I don't either. I really I don't get it either.
I really don't.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
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Speaker 1 (17:49):
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want to know the number one thing?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I know?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Jeff Goodman's going to join us in a second. By
the way, I've done uh. Like I said twenty this
is the first time in twenty three years I haven't
been involved in the bracket show, and it was just great.
I missed working with Jeff, who's the founder of Field
of sixty eight, but I didn't miss, you know, worrying
about who got in, who didn't get in at the
moment of and breaking down a bracket and like, yeah,
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don't I'm good, but I will tell you this, and
this is why I'm really interested in Wisconsin's game against Montana,
which is played in Denver, Colorado, right, and VCU's game
against BYU, which is played in Denver, Colorado. Those are
Thursday games, right, Thursday games. The number one thing I've
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learned is that schedule can win you games and can
get you beat and can get you fired and get
you in and now the NCAA tournament, and I think
the easiest. Let me just obviously, my team record wise
wasn't good, Like we're not. I'm not sitting here this no,
this is breaking news to you guys. When I had
when we had Anthony Roy led the country in scoring.
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We beat SIU E, who won their conference, the OBC
Conference Sermon Championship. They won like twenty two games, Ryan Baroni.
We beat them by like twenty five at our place.
And I said it at the time, like that wasn't
the real SIU E. Because they had played four game.
We were their fourth game in seven days and so
they were just out of gas. And I would say
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we lost three or four games in the non conference
because we just had no gas in the tank, and
probably a couple in conference places where we didn't set
up our schedule properly or the schedule was just untenable
for us traveling to different time zones flying like and
I bring that up because Wisconsin, who I think is
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really really good, but they just played a hard fought
game on a Sunday. They end up Sunday after Sunday
evening playing in Chicago. Now they got to bus home, right,
and they slept in their own beds, but it was
a late, long night. And then today they get up
and they had the day off, and then tomorrow they
fly to Denver, Colorado, and they play Montana who won
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their conference tournament championship a week ago. And oh yeah,
by the way, they play them in Denver. Now, does
it affect them tomorrow, Probably not. I mean affect them Thursday,
probably not. But then they turn around on Saturday, they'll
play BYU. Hey, and BYU lost, you know, like five
days ago in the Big twelve tournament. And oh yeah,
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by the way, BYU is playing a VCU team that
played in their conference tournament championship, also on a Sunday,
and they're playing in altitude where BYU lives and the
second game in altitude is the hardest one. I don't
know if this is why Seth Davis picked BYU to
the lead eight or he just likes something else. You know,
they're trending in the right way. But I'm telling you
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right now that Wisconsin who played what three and three
days ending on a Sunday, and now is if they
played four and four days? Yeah, four and four days.
So Wisconsin got done on a Sunday, and then they
play on a Thursday. So that's five games in nine days.
They'll have six games in eleven days Wisconsin, and in altitude.
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I mean, listen, I think the world of Greg Garden.
This team this year. I love it. John Tanji who
transferred in from Missouri after being at Colorado State. He's
a stud stud. But scheduling gets you beat wouldn't stunny
at all by you, especially second half of that second
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game that Wisconsin all of a sudden, like why are
they missing shots? Why are they not getting back on defense?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Why?
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Why?
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Why? Altitude, number of games, volume of travel. Jeff Goodman
joins us from Field of sixty eight. What do you think, Jeff?
What do you think of that dissertation?
Speaker 5 (21:51):
Of of travel and how big you're You're right, But
my big question to you is are you going to
sue the n CUAA for not getting into the NCAA
Tournament like the West Virginia governor did or plans to
because the Mountaineers got left out of the field.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
That's something that still have The craziest story. The crazy
story is South Alabama was invited to the n I
T and they're like, sed, what what what happened?
Speaker 5 (22:21):
So what happened was UC Riverside had committed to the CBI. Okay,
they committed a CBI and then then all of a
sudden they get an email from what I'm told the
ad West Mollette gets an email from the n I
T after they committed, saying you're in the n I T.
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So then he tries to get out of the CBI
and they had already committed. I guess the n T
had already. Dan Gavitt had already called South Alabama and
told them they were in. Basically, I guess what happened
was you see what it is Riverside, sorry was in
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two of them. They were in CBI and n I
T at the same time. They committed to both both
thought they were in and so the NCAA invited South
Alabama and Richie Riley called them. He told his team
they were excited all this, that and the other, and
then they had to rescind it when Riverside got out
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of the CBI and got into the n T. So
Richie Riley is not very happy and his team is
not very happy because they are no longer in the
n Now. Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's
there's just so much messiness right now going on everywhere.
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And again, my whole deal in all these bubble teams is, listen,
bottom line is you can justify every one of them
getting in one reason or another, because none of them
were all that deserving. And I still say, go back
to sixty four, and even then you go back to
sixty four, you're gonna get complaints from sixty five to
sixty six, sixty seven, sixty so you're never gonna get
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away from this. But the fact that the West Virginia
governor is trying to sue the nc double A is
a crock of you know what, like, shut up the
hell out of here, stay in your lane, stay in
your lane.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I I get I get it. But this is what politics.
This is what politicians do. They got they got they
got a grand stand. They gotta be involved, They got
to be involved. Does this have any impact whether or
not Darien debrees, whether he remains at West Virginia or
goes back to goes back to his home state of
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Iowa as the Hawkeyes are looking for a new head coach.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Well, I think it depends on what the offer is
from Iowa. I think that's the biggest thing here is
obviously is he is he?
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Is he ahead of Ben McCullum in their in their
wish list?
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Well, Ben mca is, from what I'm told, maybe at
the top of Indiana's wish list, So that may not matter.
He may be the one A or one B at Iowa.
But if Ben McCollum takes Indiana, it doesn't matter, and
then darn DeVries will be able to get even more.
You know, Iowa was a big problem. They didn't have
a lot of money this year for Prean McCaffrey was
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somewhere in the one you know, a little over a
million dollars, I believe in nil. But you often wonder,
Doug in those cases, is it just that the ad
is setting Frean McCaffrey up to fail at that point
and just saying, hey, we want to move on. We're
not devoting all the resources to you. And maybe the
money people as well. The boosters are.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Saying, that's that's what happens.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Yeah, okay, that's getting stale.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Well what happened, Yes, what happens is they they want
to bleed you out, right, they want to bleed you out.
The coach goes to the money people and like, hey, man,
you want to make this thing happen. We got to
get some more money. And the money people like, yeah,
we're good here if you and then they tell the
athletic well they well, they tell the athletic director, if
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you want our money, you got to you got to.
You got to change this thing.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
We'll get somebody goody get Daron Debrees or Ben McCullough. Correct, well,
we'll step forward, but we're not paying for year sixteen
of Fran McCaffrey. And you're right, that's how about this dog?
How about this? The new trend I assume you paid
attention to this. The new trend is hiring NBA assistants. Right.
(26:29):
It was NBA former players, which was a colossal disaster.
None of them have really made it. Penny Hardaway looks
good this year, but you know, he's about the only
one who survived the you know, Chris Mullin, Patrick Ewing,
Juwan Howard, and we go on and on. So that's failed.
So now the new trend is NBA assistant coaches because
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Kevin Young was good this year at BYU. So now
Utah goes Alex Jensen. That's not going to work. You watch,
it's just not I'd be shocked. He's not even coming
over to Utah until the end of the NBA season.
Good luck with that. And you've got other guys, you know,
being hired here. Dan Garriott, former Richmond player, probably will
take over for Covid Anderson, who's fired after two years
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at IONA. Obviously, Luke Lauts got the Florida State job.
He was on the bench at Sacermento.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Here's here's the common misconception. Yay, they think that it's
now quasi professional basketball, right, They think that it's professional basketball,
and on some level it it is and it isn't. Okay,
is it free agency? Get it's actually way more like
AAU than it is like professional basketball. And there's still
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relationships as a coach still completely matter, completely matter, and
the idea of hey we can just plug and play.
We get a GM in place, they picked the players,
and then the NBA assistant comes in and he runs
the NBA stuff and we sell him on the NBA
and we operated like it's an NBA team. Like that
looks good. That's it will do. But again I'm just
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telling you from obviously from my year of experience, I
think I don't think that's accurate. I just don't. And again,
every school and every setup is different and it requires context, right,
And look, let's just be honest. The BYU thing works
because Ryan Smith, who owns the Jazz game of blank check.
If they didn't have a blank checkbook and said hey
(28:24):
just go buy the best players, it's still back to
old by you no matter who the coach is, right,
So yeah, he is he doing a nice job. Absolutely?
And can they generate money from the boasters? Absolutely, But
unless you have a billionaire, that's right in check. I
don't give a damn where you coached last year, right,
it still comes down to money, Which was I started
the show saying this that I thought of the things
(28:46):
the committee got right. That don't feel good to the
outside world, but those of us on the inside know
is the sec Of course they get fourteen teams. They
haven't spend all the money, right, so they got better
dudes than everybody else.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
And I.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
It's a different sport. They're playing a different sport. It's
we go play Ohio State. Yeah, we play a hot
state and it's a we cut the lead to like
eight in the second half, and we're competing and and
I know our ho State wasn't particularly good this year.
Their bubble team and they're bubble burst. But again, if
you knew our salaries, if you knew their salaries, and
(29:26):
then all of a sudden, you know, yeah they have
there's not a starter on their team that doesn't make
more than my entire team combined. Okay, okay, So we
go in the locker room and you know, like I'm
bent out of shape because I changed the ball screen
coverage and they hit a three here, and then we
(29:48):
got into foul trouble and then you know, it got
to like fifteen, and then I played the bench, and
then the bench was way worse than the starters because
they were so young, and you know, whatever, it kind
of got out of hand. The final score not indicative
of how close the game actually was. And one of
my assistant coaches, go, coach, that's a three million dollar team.
You know how much we stand on ours where it
(30:08):
will be okay?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
So yeah, I actually think in that case they did it. Okay,
real quick on some of this coaching stuff. Let's do it, uh, Indiana,
your best guess is who Ben McCollum.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Of Drake I think that's who it's gonna be. Now,
supposedly there might be a mystery candidate. I just think
they're trying to keep this thing quiet for as long
as they can. Kind of like the Josh Shirts deal
last year. Remember everybody kind of knew once Saint Louis
one shirts didn't make Remember they got to the n
(30:39):
I T and they wanted to run it out till
they lost in the n I T, But everybody kind
of knew it was his gig. I think it's been
McCollum's gig here, which is crazy. I mean a year
ago he's in Division two.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah, I mean he turned down a lot of vision
in jobs and took to Drake one and brought us
You know, he brought his crew over. It's what's gonna
be interesting. Obviously he'll probably bring Star with him. But
who else can he get because you know, we played
against him and they were older. But also they had
like four or five guys that have played for him
for multiple years. So then does Iowa become the freeze Derees?
Speaker 5 (31:13):
I would think so again, as long as the resources
are there for him. But now it's kind of an
interesting one, right, Like, you got the governor fighting for
you all this, they're rallying around you in West Virginia.
Do you really just say, like, all right, thanks, guys,
I'm out. I'm I'm going back home to Iowa, Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
And then who would get West Virginia?
Speaker 5 (31:37):
I would assume it's got to be Utah State. It's
got to be Jerrick Calhoun, you would think, right, I mean,
he just did a great job in Utah, Steah.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
And he's also he's a hugs guy.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
He's a hugs guy, but not a hugs like, not
a Andy Kennedy hugs guy. You know a little different.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
No, I mean listen, yeah, I mean, and then of course,
and then Julia, guys, that's what he is.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Virginia Ryan Otum, right, Virginia Ryan Otum, and then the
NC State.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I think it'll be Will Wade, Yeah, it makes sense.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
And then the big wildcard. There's two wildcards here, Villanova.
I could see Richard Patino ending up there. Chris Collins
is a name that could be there. Remember he obviously
has some Philly tis with his with his dad. And
then Texas, and it's the most interesting matchup I think
of the tournament in no way because Xavier plays Texas
(32:34):
and a couple of years ago when Beard got fired,
you know, they didn't think Rodney Terry was going to
be the guy at that point, and it probably would
have been Sean Miller at that point. Sean Miller, you know,
if he can beat Texas here, I think it's Sean Miller.
And I think Rodney Terry probably needs to win at
least one, maybe two games to save his shop.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
And Xavier playing at their art dayton Ye, which is
forty minutes or so from their campus, will be will
be interesting as well.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
And they're good. They're good, like texted Xaviers winning that
game just just for Craig Johnson is awesome. Yeah, they
don't they don't run enough for him. He doesn't have
enough around him. It's just like I just saw them
play and I'm like twice and in person, man he is,
he's going to be a hell of an NBA player.
You watch.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Give me you're the best man Field of sixty eight.
You can check out their podcast, you can watch their
shows as well. He's the founder. He's awesome. Jeff, Listen,
I'm I'm available. You know now that we win four games,
nobody wants to talk to me.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
But hey, well because you don't, you don't follow it all.
You don't watch games every.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Night like you used to do, right, I actually care
about my worry, worry about my I watch games. I
just don't watch the games that you guys watch, and
you guys talk about you watch.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
The league game, you watch your league game.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
No, no, no, we watch other league games for other reasons.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Right, Okay, all right, we're not going there right now.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
No, But like, listen, that's the weird that's that's I mean,
Steve Alford said it, like Hinshake lines are super weird, right.
And that's the other thing about these games is a
lot of these mid majors, like they play teams. They
know that if we play good team, my best player
play as well. He's going to that team next year.
Like that's exactly how it happened. It's it's nuts. Goody,
(34:24):
thanks for joining us.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
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Speaker 6 (35:10):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Hey there, Dan Byer, what's the game, Doug?
Speaker 6 (35:18):
The game today is big deal, little deal, no deal,
Big deal.
Speaker 7 (35:22):
Little deal or no deal that the Mavericks has signed
the Anthony Davis to the G League, signaling a possible
return to action from his adductor strain, and then recalled
him after one practice.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I think it's a big deal. It signifies that clearly
the Mavericks are feeling pressure from the league to play them,
to play them, you know, when rightfully they should sit
him and take the medicine and get a lottery pick
out of him. So, whether it's the fans and Anthony
Davis wanted to come back and show what they got
(35:53):
in return, or whether it's the league pressuring them to
not tank, it's super weird that he's coming back to play.
Speaker 7 (36:00):
Let's get to some tournament stuff. Big deal, little dealer,
no deal. That Auburn was the number one overall seed,
getting them not over Duke.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
A big deal, right, Auburn lost through their last four games.
Duke won the ACC tournament without their best player. I
think the SEC is a better overall league. But that's
a big deal to me.
Speaker 7 (36:22):
Big deal, little dealer, no deal that Louisville was an
eight seed but they are playing in the Great State
of Kentucky and Lexington. Is it a big deal, A
little dealer?
Speaker 2 (36:31):
No deal? They got Creighton coming out.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
I think that's a little deal. I think it tells
you all you need to know about one the acc
but also Louisville. What they did schedule wise, don't get
it wrong. Turning that thing around in this short order
is fantastic, you know, and they spent a lot of
money in doing so. But they also really scheduled smartly
in order to kind of get their confidence going into
(36:56):
the year.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
It will be the first game on Thursday, so when
you turn it on, it's the first game of the
day on Thursday. All right, big deal? Little deal of
Nodealle Purdue as a four seed, Doug could play in
Indianapolis in the sweet sixteen.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Mm, yeah, it's a big deal. I mean, like, look,
I don't know if it pays back for Robie Hummel
getting hurt, but that final four would have been in Indianapolis,
you know, back then. So what we do the travel
is a real thing, and but the home court advantage
is not a big thing.
Speaker 7 (37:26):
Just just isn't okay, big deal little deal of nodeal
Bill self, John Colapari and Rick Patito are in the
same bracket, and the first round Syche bracket.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Is insane, insane, insane. A lot of money in the sidelines,
a lot of money in the court, and a lot
of wins. Yeah and yeah, that's a crazy one.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
That's game time, game, This is game.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
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kind of visual dial. I got my guy Dan Bayer,
who along with Aaron Torres He and at hosted the
Bracket Show yesterday. Well when the bracket was revealed, they
were on Fox Sports Radio yesterday, and of course Jason
Stewart RC producer and I was Sam who. I don't
know if it's because it's Saint Patrick's Day, that's why
you're wearing all your green? Yes, we got all your
(01:06):
green on Nobody's pinching you. Uh, but yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Chan's got a green hat on.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Jane's got a green hat on. I got my Green
Bay Phoenix quarter zip. Plus I live in Green Bay.
I think I'm good all times. And then Jace, you
were there in green There, you got green there.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, I've got my T shirt. I need to shout
out to Kevin Figures, he's my guy. We both were
a huge fan of the YouTube video about the Leprechawn
in Alabama and the news coverage. And I've got a
shirt underneath it says, uh, I want to go And
it's a it's an amateur sketch of the Leprechawn.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Amateur sketch. That's great.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, we remember case people were confused that it might
be a professional sketch, amateur sketch. I want the gold
who he has seen his say Leprecaun saying.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Yeah, that's one of those early two videos now classic,
one of the originals, only at full throated and acting
out there.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, Okay, I don't even know what the hell you
guys are talking about. I'm trying to do a sports
show here, Like, when did I become the voice of
reason and the voice of balance?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
We'll show it to you in the break.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I don't want to watch it. I don't. I have
way too many things on my mind that have nothing
to do with some YouTube video of a leprechan which
may or may not be offensive to people I don't
even know anymore. Here's what I want to talk about.
I got two things on selection Sunday. Actually three. Number
one is yeah, I didn't. I kind of didn't realize
(02:41):
it until I was at a what is it called
a concert festival in LA called Rolling Loud, at which
I apparently was the oldest and least drug induced person there.
My son and I were at least drug headliner was
Playboy Cardi. Anyway, so my son Hayes, shout out to Hazy.
(03:03):
He's got his sixteenth birthday this week. He's on spring break,
and so I said, hey, man, you want to go
to like He's a huge Playboy Cardi fan. The opium guys.
It's opium music. Anyway. It was, he had a great time,
he was in the mosh pit. I was just making
(03:24):
sure that my dude was okay. We had a decent time. Anyway.
I was looking down at my phone and all of
a sudden, people are texting me like, what do you
think of this? In the bract like I didn't, don't
get me wrong. I got home and eventually I looked
at the bracket some interesting stuff and I'll share it
with you in moments. But first time in twenty three
years I hadn't been involved in some sort of bracket
(03:47):
show kind of freeing. On the other hand, it was like, man,
now I'm actually coaching in college basketball, and now it
doesn't matter like I got to be. I got to
get in the tournament as soon as possible, So then
I'll say and I get back to watching and caring
about the brackets. But I think what's fascinating about this
(04:08):
is the statement made by the selection committee that I
don't know what's been discussed because I also didn't watch
all the talkie talk shows, which goes completely in line
with what I said about college football and what college
football's bracket didn't do. If you remember, I was the
(04:32):
one saying, hey, Alabama should be in the college football playoff,
Hey Ole Miss should be in the college football playoff.
Hey I'm not sure LSU shouldn't be in the college
football Playoff, and people have gone like, well, look at
all the SEC did like, Okay, would they have been
better than Indiana and SMU and Boise State. Of course
(04:53):
they would have been. Do you know why because they
have and spend more money on their players, on their coaches,
on everything, and they have an overall better product. They
have an overall better product. Like, look, we're all looking
for deals. I've told you guys this before. I am
(05:14):
not shy about it. It doesn't matter if I shop
high end at Alo or Viori or Lululemon. Right you
click on Lulu Lemon's website, and what's the second click?
I always do. There's one that says we've made too much.
Why I don't care if it's out of style. It's like,
I'm not they care about style. I just want something
(05:34):
that's really comfortable and you know, kind of that yoga
e fit. And yeah, I think it's overpriced, so I
want to get it at like thirty percent off.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Okay, So we're all that way, We all like, oh man,
there's a rebate on twenty twenty four vehicles. Granted twenty
twenty four vehicles. The second you drive it off the lot,
they always decrease in value. They plummet in value when
it's a year older model, right, But we're all looking
for a deal. We all think that everything's overpriced, everything's
and we're probably right. But the other part to it
(06:08):
is they have better players, and maybe not better players,
they have more really really good ones. Because the money
is spread out overall, it doesn't mean that on a
given day you see San Diego that's probably spent. I
(06:30):
would say one hundred and fifty to two hundred thousand
dollars on their roster. They have a lot of Division
two players. They've done an amazing job of building that
program that elevated from you know, twenty whatever years ago
they were Division I think we're Division two national champions,
not long ago anyway, to being a top team in
the Big West, which there are million dollar teams in
(06:52):
the Big West, but regardless of which, Like you, it
doesn't mean they can't beat Michigan. And Michigan's payroll is
probably three million dollars. But if they play twenty times,
Michigan's going to beat him eighteen. Do you know why?
Because Michigan has better players. They're bigger at every position.
(07:13):
They're bigger and more skilled, and their coach, Dusty May
has been at the lower level at Florid Atlantic and
built it over time, and he's he's really really good.
It doesn't mean that what Eric and those guys at
U S C. Canego hasn't done. But the point is
that the selection committee got it right. From this standpoint,
we can bitch and moan about how it looks optically
(07:34):
to have fourteen SEC teams and Oklahoma and Texas two
of the bottom teams. See Oklahoma, I'd say their payroll
is probably million five to two million, which is again
bottom end of the SEC. But that league is a
gauntlet because they spent more money on coaches, more money
(07:57):
on facilities, more money on training, and more money on players.
They have overall the better teams. Now we can pick
and choose which one we want and which team should
be in. And is it silly that North Carolina is
in and West Virginia is not. West Virginia spends a
lot of money. They have a huge NIL budget, probably
greater than even the North Carolina. Okay, and I think
(08:18):
that it was it's a joke. Of course, West Virginia
belongs in the NCAA Tournament. And I'll get to why
they're not very very shortly. But the point is that
the Slacks Committee got it right. Where the College Football
Committee got it wrong is that select committee didn't try
and win people over and do things that we had
(08:39):
all called for to be the right way to do it. Remember,
in college football, Boise State got a buy why because
they built this insane model, insane model where you had
to be a conference champion and win your conference championship
game in order to get a buye. So for twenty
(09:01):
years people always wanted Hawaii one year, Cincinnati one year,
Boise one year, you know, in a BCS or a
Big Bowl game, or even in the college football Playoff.
And they went from that to putting them as a
top four seed, which was a joke. Right, Indiana was
(09:24):
in and SMU was in. Why because well, they wanted
to be fair. F being fair if the goal of
the college football Playoff, much like the goal of the
NCAA Tournament, is to find the best teams. College basketball
got it right. College football got it wrong. College basketball
(09:47):
got it right. In college it doesn't mean that spending
the most money always gives you the best team that
can be. There can be chemistry issues. There's something going
on at Kansas because they spent a ton of money
in that team. Their point guard win a national championship,
Their centers like six year center. Their coach is a
Hall of Fame coach. He's amazing. Right. They went out
and got Wisconsin's best player from last year and he
barely plays. And I think they'll be okay, we'll win
(10:10):
some games here in March. But the point is that
spending money isn't the end all be all. But when
the whole conference, whole conference spends two to three x
of what most conferences spend on their players, you're going
to have a better product. You're going to have a
better product.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
It's it's like a Ferrari or a Porsche, right, and
these cars that are handmade, right, they're going to be well.
Occasionally you get something that that's faulty. Of course, not
there's no perfect, but by and large, when you use
better things and you make it by hand, and you
(10:52):
spend more time and you spend more money in terms
of your overall investment in each car you make and
each piece of clothes thing you make, it's can you
buy a suit off the rack and it's fine, sure,
it might fit you great, but a tailor made suit.
It costs more. Why because somebody has to spend expert
detail in making sure it's just right for you, and
(11:12):
that suit is always going to be better than the
off the rack one. Which that's all we're doing here, right.
Here's the other thing that you found yesterday. Those last
couple games don't matter, but they do matter, And you're like, well,
that's a contradictory statement. It is. It doesn't matter in
(11:34):
the How silly is it that Wisconsin is a three
seed Michigan's a five seed, And it's not like you
can't give me the Well they did it because they
wanted Wisconsin to play in Milwaukee. They're not. They played
each other on a Sunday. They're in the same league,
they're somewhere in the neighborhood of the same seed line.
(11:56):
And all you have to do is like, hey, Wisconsin wins,
let's put them as the three. If Michigan wins, we
put them at the three. Right, wouldn't that be simple?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
But they didn't really pay attention to the outcome on Sunday,
that's pretty obvious. On the other hand, they were watching
how do I know North Carolina got in and West
Virginia did not. And and here's the here's the key
elements of it. Everybody's caught up on the numbers. They
(12:26):
only had one win versus the net. You know, what
is it to quadrant one net wins or whatever right
as opposed to West Virginia that had a clearly better resume,
clearly a better resume. And then poor Bubba Cunningham. And
just for full disclosure, Bubba was the ad at Tulsa.
Bubba's the ad at Carolina. Bubba's a great dude. And
(12:51):
while I laughed on social media about him not being
in the room for North Carolina, the fact is he's
not in the room and it's kind of an impossible
answer for him to have, like why I've actually done
the selection process, okay, And people say, well, it's about
this now much about that number?
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Bold?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Do you know what it's about. It's about whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
It to be about.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
They have all the people in the committee, and then
you vote and it cuts it down, and then you
have all the bublic committee and then you vote and
you vote by yourself. You can use whatever stat you want,
whatever thing you want. And if you're sitting there and
you're trying to figure out, and you watch West Virginia
lose to Colorado. Tad Bills a tremendous coach. I think
(13:35):
he's the most successful coach Colorado's ever had. But they
were bad this year, right, you know, one and done
last or they had one and done last year. They
lost a bunch of players. I don't think they have
a bunch of nil everything's invested into football.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
They were bad.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
And so when you get together to meet and West
Virginia was on the list of probably in and then
you watch them lose to Colorado, and then you watch
North Carolina give away a game to Duke, and Duke
is your number one overall seed. Granted, Cooper Flag didn't
play okay, but I gonna have a lane violation otherwise
(14:14):
if he makes a second free throw, they at least
go to overtime. So again, we can say it's about numbers,
but it's not. It's about what you've seen last, what
you see first, and what you see last. And think
about that indelibate impression of you're getting ready to vote.
And at the end of the day, you can use
whatever number, whatever skill there is. There is no hard
(14:36):
and fast rules of what you have to vote for.
They give the members of the committee all of these
different metrics. Is metrices, metrices, metrics, metrics is metrices, Metrice's right?
Can I get a thumb up?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I would just say metrics, but I don't know if
maybe I'm wrong case do uh metrics Yep?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Not metrices.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Yeah, I think it's just metro.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Okay, metri they give them all. No metri would be
singular or plural. Matrices. Yeah, matrix not metrices.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
It's a matrix.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
No, it's not a metrics.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
You're right.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Somebody help us out that knows more. Anyway, they give
them all of these kind of guides with metrics that
you can use to explain away who and why.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
You picked who and why you picked metric, metrics is
the plural, it's metric, and that it's metrics.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
They give them all these metrics that you can use
as a guide to pick who you want to pick.
But you can pick whoever you want to pick. And
I think most people, most human beings are sitting there gone.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Well.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I just saw Carolina lose by a point to Duke,
and I think Duke's awesome. And a couple of days
days ago, I saw West Virginia lose to Colorado, and
I think Colorado stinks so North Carolina. It really is
(16:11):
that simple, Like we want to make it about well,
it's the ACC, it's about North Carolina. It's about I
think it's really as simple as you watch a team
on a Thursday in an empty gym at the Big
at the Big twelve tournament that you'd like to see
win a game, and they lose to Colorado. And then
two nights, two days later, you're watching Duke Carolina hard
(16:34):
fought game and Carolina kind of found a way to
split up all of themselves but lose a really close game.
You're like, yeah, that one looks like an NCAA tournament theme.
The other one does not. I think that's the reality
of what happened. I think that's that's actually what I think.
That's actually kind of what what happened there. I mean,
(16:57):
that's again my opinion, but I've also in h I've
also been a part of it Big Doug Gottlieb Show
here on Fox Sports.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
At Rado Doug the Silly thing about Michigan Wisconsin. Yes,
Michigan actually finished in TI for second, Wisconsin finished in
TY for third, and Michigan won the conference tournament, so
I don't get the seating there at all.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Well, again, that's when they go back to non conference stuff. Whatever.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Wisconsin finished the season a little hotter.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Michigan coach lost a few games.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
There down to make me from Penn State at home.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
On Michigan also beat Wisconsin. Uh in the regular season. Yeah,
So I don't get that.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I don't either. I really I don't get it either.
I really don't.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
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Speaker 1 (17:49):
It's Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Do you guys
want to know the number one thing?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I know?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Jeff Goodman's going to join us in a second. By
the way, I've done uh. Like I said twenty this
is the first time in twenty three years I haven't
been involved in the bracket show, and it was just great.
I missed working with Jeff, who's the founder of Field
of sixty eight, but I didn't miss, you know, worrying
about who got in, who didn't get in at the
moment of and breaking down a bracket and like, yeah,
(18:15):
don't I'm good, but I will tell you this, and
this is why I'm really interested in Wisconsin's game against Montana,
which is played in Denver, Colorado, right, and VCU's game
against BYU, which is played in Denver, Colorado. Those are
Thursday games, right, Thursday games. The number one thing I've
(18:38):
learned is that schedule can win you games and can
get you beat and can get you fired and get
you in and now the NCAA tournament, and I think
the easiest. Let me just obviously, my team record wise
wasn't good, Like we're not. I'm not sitting here this no,
this is breaking news to you guys. When I had
when we had Anthony Roy led the country in scoring.
(18:58):
We beat SIU E, who won their conference, the OBC
Conference Sermon Championship. They won like twenty two games, Ryan Baroni.
We beat them by like twenty five at our place.
And I said it at the time, like that wasn't
the real SIU E. Because they had played four game.
We were their fourth game in seven days and so
they were just out of gas. And I would say
(19:20):
we lost three or four games in the non conference
because we just had no gas in the tank, and
probably a couple in conference places where we didn't set
up our schedule properly or the schedule was just untenable
for us traveling to different time zones flying like and
I bring that up because Wisconsin, who I think is
(19:43):
really really good, but they just played a hard fought
game on a Sunday. They end up Sunday after Sunday
evening playing in Chicago. Now they got to bus home, right,
and they slept in their own beds, but it was
a late, long night. And then today they get up
and they had the day off, and then tomorrow they
fly to Denver, Colorado, and they play Montana who won
(20:05):
their conference tournament championship a week ago. And oh yeah,
by the way, they play them in Denver. Now, does
it affect them tomorrow, Probably not. I mean affect them Thursday,
probably not. But then they turn around on Saturday, they'll
play BYU. Hey, and BYU lost, you know, like five
days ago in the Big twelve tournament. And oh yeah,
(20:27):
by the way, BYU is playing a VCU team that
played in their conference tournament championship, also on a Sunday,
and they're playing in altitude where BYU lives and the
second game in altitude is the hardest one. I don't
know if this is why Seth Davis picked BYU to
the lead eight or he just likes something else. You know,
they're trending in the right way. But I'm telling you
(20:48):
right now that Wisconsin who played what three and three
days ending on a Sunday, and now is if they
played four and four days? Yeah, four and four days.
So Wisconsin got done on a Sunday, and then they
play on a Thursday. So that's five games in nine days.
They'll have six games in eleven days Wisconsin, and in altitude.
(21:13):
I mean, listen, I think the world of Greg Garden.
This team this year. I love it. John Tanji who
transferred in from Missouri after being at Colorado State. He's
a stud stud. But scheduling gets you beat wouldn't stunny
at all by you, especially second half of that second
(21:34):
game that Wisconsin all of a sudden, like why are
they missing shots? Why are they not getting back on defense?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Why?
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Why?
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Why? Altitude, number of games, volume of travel. Jeff Goodman
joins us from Field of sixty eight. What do you think, Jeff?
What do you think of that dissertation?
Speaker 5 (21:51):
Of of travel and how big you're You're right, But
my big question to you is are you going to
sue the n CUAA for not getting into the NCAA
Tournament like the West Virginia governor did or plans to
because the Mountaineers got left out of the field.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
That's something that still have The craziest story. The crazy
story is South Alabama was invited to the n I
T and they're like, sed, what what what happened?
Speaker 5 (22:21):
So what happened was UC Riverside had committed to the CBI. Okay,
they committed a CBI and then then all of a
sudden they get an email from what I'm told the
ad West Mollette gets an email from the n I
T after they committed, saying you're in the n I T.
(22:43):
So then he tries to get out of the CBI
and they had already committed. I guess the n T
had already. Dan Gavitt had already called South Alabama and
told them they were in. Basically, I guess what happened
was you see what it is Riverside, sorry was in
(23:06):
two of them. They were in CBI and n I
T at the same time. They committed to both both
thought they were in and so the NCAA invited South
Alabama and Richie Riley called them. He told his team
they were excited all this, that and the other, and
then they had to rescind it when Riverside got out
(23:27):
of the CBI and got into the n T. So
Richie Riley is not very happy and his team is
not very happy because they are no longer in the
n Now. Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's
there's just so much messiness right now going on everywhere.
(23:47):
And again, my whole deal in all these bubble teams is, listen,
bottom line is you can justify every one of them
getting in one reason or another, because none of them
were all that deserving. And I still say, go back
to sixty four, and even then you go back to
sixty four, you're gonna get complaints from sixty five to
sixty six, sixty seven, sixty so you're never gonna get
(24:10):
away from this. But the fact that the West Virginia
governor is trying to sue the nc double A is
a crock of you know what, like, shut up the
hell out of here, stay in your lane, stay in
your lane.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I I get I get it. But this is what politics.
This is what politicians do. They got they got they
got a grand stand. They gotta be involved, They got
to be involved. Does this have any impact whether or
not Darien debrees, whether he remains at West Virginia or
goes back to goes back to his home state of
(24:43):
Iowa as the Hawkeyes are looking for a new head coach.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Well, I think it depends on what the offer is
from Iowa. I think that's the biggest thing here is
obviously is he is he?
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Is he ahead of Ben McCullum in their in their
wish list?
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Well, Ben mca is, from what I'm told, maybe at
the top of Indiana's wish list, So that may not matter.
He may be the one A or one B at Iowa.
But if Ben McCollum takes Indiana, it doesn't matter, and
then darn DeVries will be able to get even more.
You know, Iowa was a big problem. They didn't have
a lot of money this year for Prean McCaffrey was
(25:19):
somewhere in the one you know, a little over a
million dollars, I believe in nil. But you often wonder,
Doug in those cases, is it just that the ad
is setting Frean McCaffrey up to fail at that point
and just saying, hey, we want to move on. We're
not devoting all the resources to you. And maybe the
money people as well. The boosters are.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Saying, that's that's what happens.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Yeah, okay, that's getting stale.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Well what happened, Yes, what happens is they they want
to bleed you out, right, they want to bleed you out.
The coach goes to the money people and like, hey, man,
you want to make this thing happen. We got to
get some more money. And the money people like, yeah,
we're good here if you and then they tell the
athletic well they well, they tell the athletic director, if
(26:04):
you want our money, you got to you got to.
You got to change this thing.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
We'll get somebody goody get Daron Debrees or Ben McCullough. Correct, well,
we'll step forward, but we're not paying for year sixteen
of Fran McCaffrey. And you're right, that's how about this dog?
How about this? The new trend I assume you paid
attention to this. The new trend is hiring NBA assistants. Right.
(26:29):
It was NBA former players, which was a colossal disaster.
None of them have really made it. Penny Hardaway looks
good this year, but you know, he's about the only
one who survived the you know, Chris Mullin, Patrick Ewing,
Juwan Howard, and we go on and on. So that's failed.
So now the new trend is NBA assistant coaches because
(26:49):
Kevin Young was good this year at BYU. So now
Utah goes Alex Jensen. That's not going to work. You watch,
it's just not I'd be shocked. He's not even coming
over to Utah until the end of the NBA season.
Good luck with that. And you've got other guys, you know,
being hired here. Dan Garriott, former Richmond player, probably will
take over for Covid Anderson, who's fired after two years
(27:11):
at IONA. Obviously, Luke Lauts got the Florida State job.
He was on the bench at Sacermento.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Here's here's the common misconception. Yay, they think that it's
now quasi professional basketball, right, They think that it's professional basketball,
and on some level it it is and it isn't. Okay,
is it free agency? Get it's actually way more like
AAU than it is like professional basketball. And there's still
(27:41):
relationships as a coach still completely matter, completely matter, and
the idea of hey we can just plug and play.
We get a GM in place, they picked the players,
and then the NBA assistant comes in and he runs
the NBA stuff and we sell him on the NBA
and we operated like it's an NBA team. Like that
looks good. That's it will do. But again I'm just
(28:02):
telling you from obviously from my year of experience, I
think I don't think that's accurate. I just don't. And again,
every school and every setup is different and it requires context, right,
And look, let's just be honest. The BYU thing works
because Ryan Smith, who owns the Jazz game of blank check.
If they didn't have a blank checkbook and said hey
(28:24):
just go buy the best players, it's still back to
old by you no matter who the coach is, right,
So yeah, he is he doing a nice job. Absolutely?
And can they generate money from the boasters? Absolutely, But
unless you have a billionaire, that's right in check. I
don't give a damn where you coached last year, right,
it still comes down to money, Which was I started
the show saying this that I thought of the things
(28:46):
the committee got right. That don't feel good to the
outside world, but those of us on the inside know
is the sec Of course they get fourteen teams. They
haven't spend all the money, right, so they got better
dudes than everybody else.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
And I.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
It's a different sport. They're playing a different sport. It's
we go play Ohio State. Yeah, we play a hot
state and it's a we cut the lead to like
eight in the second half, and we're competing and and
I know our ho State wasn't particularly good this year.
Their bubble team and they're bubble burst. But again, if
you knew our salaries, if you knew their salaries, and
(29:26):
then all of a sudden, you know, yeah they have
there's not a starter on their team that doesn't make
more than my entire team combined. Okay, okay, So we
go in the locker room and you know, like I'm
bent out of shape because I changed the ball screen
coverage and they hit a three here, and then we
(29:48):
got into foul trouble and then you know, it got
to like fifteen, and then I played the bench, and
then the bench was way worse than the starters because
they were so young, and you know, whatever, it kind
of got out of hand. The final score not indicative
of how close the game actually was. And one of
my assistant coaches, go, coach, that's a three million dollar team.
You know how much we stand on ours where it
(30:08):
will be okay?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
So yeah, I actually think in that case they did it. Okay,
real quick on some of this coaching stuff. Let's do it, uh, Indiana,
your best guess is who Ben McCollum.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Of Drake I think that's who it's gonna be. Now,
supposedly there might be a mystery candidate. I just think
they're trying to keep this thing quiet for as long
as they can. Kind of like the Josh Shirts deal
last year. Remember everybody kind of knew once Saint Louis
one shirts didn't make Remember they got to the n
(30:39):
I T and they wanted to run it out till
they lost in the n I T, But everybody kind
of knew it was his gig. I think it's been
McCollum's gig here, which is crazy. I mean a year
ago he's in Division two.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah, I mean he turned down a lot of vision
in jobs and took to Drake one and brought us
You know, he brought his crew over. It's what's gonna
be interesting. Obviously he'll probably bring Star with him. But
who else can he get because you know, we played
against him and they were older. But also they had
like four or five guys that have played for him
for multiple years. So then does Iowa become the freeze Derees?
Speaker 5 (31:13):
I would think so again, as long as the resources
are there for him. But now it's kind of an
interesting one, right, Like, you got the governor fighting for
you all this, they're rallying around you in West Virginia.
Do you really just say, like, all right, thanks, guys,
I'm out. I'm I'm going back home to Iowa, Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
And then who would get West Virginia?
Speaker 5 (31:37):
I would assume it's got to be Utah State. It's
got to be Jerrick Calhoun, you would think, right, I mean,
he just did a great job in Utah, Steah.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
And he's also he's a hugs guy.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
He's a hugs guy, but not a hugs like, not
a Andy Kennedy hugs guy. You know a little different.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
No, I mean listen, yeah, I mean, and then of course,
and then Julia, guys, that's what he is.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Virginia Ryan Otum, right, Virginia Ryan Otum, and then the
NC State.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I think it'll be Will Wade, Yeah, it makes sense.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
And then the big wildcard. There's two wildcards here, Villanova.
I could see Richard Patino ending up there. Chris Collins
is a name that could be there. Remember he obviously
has some Philly tis with his with his dad. And
then Texas, and it's the most interesting matchup I think
of the tournament in no way because Xavier plays Texas
(32:34):
and a couple of years ago when Beard got fired,
you know, they didn't think Rodney Terry was going to
be the guy at that point, and it probably would
have been Sean Miller at that point. Sean Miller, you know,
if he can beat Texas here, I think it's Sean Miller.
And I think Rodney Terry probably needs to win at
least one, maybe two games to save his shop.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
And Xavier playing at their art dayton Ye, which is
forty minutes or so from their campus, will be will
be interesting as well.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
And they're good. They're good, like texted Xaviers winning that
game just just for Craig Johnson is awesome. Yeah, they
don't they don't run enough for him. He doesn't have
enough around him. It's just like I just saw them
play and I'm like twice and in person, man he is,
he's going to be a hell of an NBA player.
You watch.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Give me you're the best man Field of sixty eight.
You can check out their podcast, you can watch their
shows as well. He's the founder. He's awesome. Jeff, Listen,
I'm I'm available. You know now that we win four games,
nobody wants to talk to me.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
But hey, well because you don't, you don't follow it all.
You don't watch games every.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Night like you used to do, right, I actually care
about my worry, worry about my I watch games. I
just don't watch the games that you guys watch, and
you guys talk about you watch.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
The league game, you watch your league game.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
No, no, no, we watch other league games for other reasons.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Right, Okay, all right, we're not going there right now.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
No, But like, listen, that's the weird that's that's I mean,
Steve Alford said it, like Hinshake lines are super weird, right.
And that's the other thing about these games is a
lot of these mid majors, like they play teams. They
know that if we play good team, my best player
play as well. He's going to that team next year.
Like that's exactly how it happened. It's it's nuts. Goody,
(34:24):
thanks for joining us.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
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Out here. Quickly, let's get to a game.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Hey there, Dan Byer, what's the game, Doug?
Speaker 6 (35:18):
The game today is big deal, little deal, no deal,
Big deal.
Speaker 7 (35:22):
Little deal or no deal that the Mavericks has signed
the Anthony Davis to the G League, signaling a possible
return to action from his adductor strain, and then recalled
him after one practice.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I think it's a big deal. It signifies that clearly
the Mavericks are feeling pressure from the league to play them,
to play them, you know, when rightfully they should sit
him and take the medicine and get a lottery pick
out of him. So, whether it's the fans and Anthony
Davis wanted to come back and show what they got
(35:53):
in return, or whether it's the league pressuring them to
not tank, it's super weird that he's coming back to play.
Speaker 7 (36:00):
Let's get to some tournament stuff. Big deal, little dealer,
no deal. That Auburn was the number one overall seed,
getting them not over Duke.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
A big deal, right, Auburn lost through their last four games.
Duke won the ACC tournament without their best player. I
think the SEC is a better overall league. But that's
a big deal to me.
Speaker 7 (36:22):
Big deal, little dealer, no deal that Louisville was an
eight seed but they are playing in the Great State
of Kentucky and Lexington. Is it a big deal, A
little dealer?
Speaker 2 (36:31):
No deal? They got Creighton coming out.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
I think that's a little deal. I think it tells
you all you need to know about one the acc
but also Louisville. What they did schedule wise, don't get
it wrong. Turning that thing around in this short order
is fantastic, you know, and they spent a lot of
money in doing so. But they also really scheduled smartly
in order to kind of get their confidence going into
(36:56):
the year.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
It will be the first game on Thursday, so when
you turn it on, it's the first game of the
day on Thursday. All right, big deal? Little deal of
Nodealle Purdue as a four seed, Doug could play in
Indianapolis in the sweet sixteen.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Mm, yeah, it's a big deal. I mean, like, look,
I don't know if it pays back for Robie Hummel
getting hurt, but that final four would have been in Indianapolis,
you know, back then. So what we do the travel
is a real thing, and but the home court advantage
is not a big thing.
Speaker 7 (37:26):
Just just isn't okay, big deal little deal of nodeal
Bill self, John Colapari and Rick Patito are in the
same bracket, and the first round Syche bracket.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Is insane, insane, insane. A lot of money in the sidelines,
a lot of money in the court, and a lot
of wins. Yeah and yeah, that's a crazy one.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
That's game time, game, This is game.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
Time on The Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
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