April 22, 2025 • 38 mins
Former Raiders and Chargers GM Tom Telesco joins Doug to catch up about his career and to talk about the process a GM goes through in preparation for the draft. Doug welcomes former NBA champ Antonio Daniels onto the show to talk about Kawhi Leonard, the Lakers and all of the other big headlines around the NBA. Plus, Isaac Lowenkron takes Doug through The Press.
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And we got about thirty minutes with Frank Caliendo that
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I think you'll really really like. I think you'll probably laugh,
You'll probably enjoy it. He is a comedian.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
He does it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
One of my coaches picked him up at the airport
and when he dropped him off, he came in my office.
He's like, man, Frank is really funny. I was like,
you know, he's a comedian that tends to happen. Yeah,
that tends to happen. The NFL Draft, obviously, is what
do we like? T minus forty fifty hours fifty hours away, right,
something like that. I don't know exact timing of it,
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but you can see where the draft will take place
from my vantage point high atop the Legacy Hotel and
we're in the sixth floor overlooking the Rest Center, the
Don Hudson Center, and of course lambeau Field, and just
to the side, I guess it would be the northeast side. Yeah,
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northeast side of lambeau Field. Next to the atrium is
the stage and the setup where where players will be
draft to welcome up on the stage by the NFL's commissioner,
Tom Telesco. This is year thirty one or year one, right.
For the last thirty years, he's been all the way
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from a scout up to an assistant GM in his
days of Bill Pollie and Buffalo and Indy, and then
his days for eleven years a general manager of Jase
Stewing my LA, then San Diego Chargers, and of course
after losing his job last year, he got to be
the GM of.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
The Raiders for a year.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And you know, look, Tom, you and I have talked
about this a bunch that you draft Brock Bauers, who
ends up being a great player, But maybe because you
didn't draft a quarterback, you you didn't get the extra
time that you would have needed. When if your quarterback
doesn't play well, you go, well, at least he's a
he's a rookie. Looking back, Okay, hindsight's obviously twenty twenty.
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Would you do it any differently?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Well, if what I know, I had one year to
get it done, yeah maybe I would have. I don't
think does a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Does a rookie quarterback by you time?
Speaker 5 (02:43):
It?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Potentially could? I think in this situation, I think things
just changed above me that they figure he like, we're
starting from scratch or starting over. So I don't know
if it would have made a difference if we had
gotten a quarterback or not. I'll never know. It just
didn't work out, so we went with the next player
that we thought could really help us, which is brock Powers.
But yeah, as you're building the team, and when we
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had a lot of needs, with quarterback being the priority one,
it may take a couple of years to get there.
It didn't necessarily think I had to get it all
done in one year, But I don't think it would
have mattered. I think there were it was gonna be
a complete change. We're starting from scratch and here we go.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
I know.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
But when they let you go into but I I drafted,
drafted Rock Bowers like I did.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
We also didn't win very many games.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I got it.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
But again, what is your job? You know, get better players?
You did your your job. Maybe that's selfish friendship.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
If we would have won more and made the playoffs
of the wildcard, maybe things would have been different. But
we didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Okay, So what about the process of your sitting there
with your draft board and when did you go like,
oh my god, he's going to be there for us.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
So I'd say about two weeks before. You know, we
do a lot of draft management of what could happen
and then how it will adjust.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
We do it all before this than that.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yes, if this then that, we hadn't talked about Bowers
a lot. Number one, we thought we was gonna go
pretty much a lot of earlier. Where then we were,
you know, the regime before had drafted Michael Mayer from
Notre Dame. You know, we want to go back to
back tight ends. That doesn't sound right. So hadn't talked
late in the process a lot about it, and in
two weeks before, I'm looking, I'm like, you know, there's
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a scenario where he could be there, thought about some more.
I run downstairs to Antonio's office and I'm like, hey,
I didn't tell him what I was thinking. I said, Hey,
if we get to this spot and this guy's gone,
this guy going, this guy's gone, and brock Bowers is
there and then these other two players, what do you think?
And he's thinking, and he's like, should I'd probably go
brock Bowers. I'm like, no kidding, I said, so would I.
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And with the thinking being like, look, we need some
juice on offense, like we got a score, and if
we don't have a big time quarterback, we're gonna have
to build around him. And look, brock bar I know
he plays tight end. I'll shoot, I'll put on the car,
I'll put receiver and I'll send it in. I don't
care likes he's a big slot. So two weeks before
we had that conversation, I said, all right, let's sleep
on it. Let's this was an old Bill Pollyon. Let's
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foind out. Let's look at some tape tonight. We'll come
back tomorrow. I'll talk about it again. So we slept
on it, did a little more working back in the morning,
and we both felt the same way, like he, look
if he's there and these guys are gone, and let's
let's do it. So when the draft was rolling, when
he was, you know, we had a plan like, look,
if he's there in this situation, that's that's the guy
we're going to go with.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
It's crazy, it's it's really interesting because.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
The juxtaposition of okay that with the Quentin Johnson draft pick.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
So I texted you I think the next day. I
think I let it breathe for a second for the
next day, and I was like, man, can he catch?
And You're like, actually, his was his catch ratio or something.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Is about eighty nine eighty eighty nine, ninety somewhere on there,
right at the threshold.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
For me, what's that? What's what's you want? Ninety percent?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
There shouldn't be lower than eighty eight percent. If it's
lower in eighty eight, that's probably not.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
What we're Because you've had it's like the mixed bag
of you adapted some really good wide receivers, and especially
in this town where everybody wants them to go get
a wide receiver and they're like, you know, it's kind
of worked out what we've done here.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, so what what is that? Like?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
What why is it? It seems like positionally that's the
hardest one to that. It's the lowest percentage of hit rate.
It feels like.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Trying to think it's I know in freenency, it's very low, uh,
draft wise in the first round. Yeah, it's it's not.
I mean, look, the first round in general is about
fifty five percent, which isn't very good.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So when I I by the way, I use your
stats all the time, when you say fifty five percent,
that means fifty five percent that they will hit on like.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Long term starters.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Long term starters is what a first round draft pick
supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Yeah, I mean, ideally you'd like a Pro Bowl in
that first you know, a difference maker Pro Bowl.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
No, But I mean what the percentage of if you're
if you're in the positive, it means that you've achieved
whatever the general standard for that draft pick is, right.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Essentially, it depends. You can look at the studies a
lot of different ways as far as what your qualifications are,
but you know you're looking for long at the very
at least a long term starter for their first round pick,
you know, hopefully a tops arder and if you hit,
it's a pro bowler.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Uh, your favorite pick that you've ever made as a GM.
Can't do before you were for your GM. So you
had eleven with the Chargers, one with the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I mean it's like like I got three kids, which
one you like the most?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Well, you know right now it's Harper, but it occasionally, yeah,
it does. Or just the best story, you know what.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
One of the good stories, you know, the the Justin
Herbert draft was the COVID draft where we had to
draft from our houses individually and leading up to the draft.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Definitely won that draft, by the way, being in Newport Beach,
like there's a lot of other people like, hmm to Lesco's.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Winning this one. You and Kingsbury. Kingsbury won that one
was a little nicer.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
But no, our location was pretty good. But yeah, it
was about a month before the draft was I'm on.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I was on.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
I was on the gym advisory committee and the commissioner
asked us about the draft about, hey, look we're thinking
about doing it where you can't go to your building,
you can't go in the draft. Room. You have to
do it from your house, and you have to hook
up with everybody you know via Wi Fi and Zoom.
And I stood up and I'm like, there's no way
that can happen. It's no way it's gonna work. That
we don't have the infrastructure. We got to be with
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our people, I got to be with our staff. Impossible,
never work. And he told me to pound sand and
he was right. It worked now. It took a lot
of work. I had no idea what Zoom was at
that point.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
But isn't that crazy that like literally and knowing it
now it's it's like in every every people use it
every single day.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
And it was all because of cod It's COVID.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
So I had my dining room table, I had about
I don't know five laptops set up in different Zoom groups.
And then I was worried about if the Wi Fi
goes out, we can't get a pick in. So I
had an AT and T truck parked behind our house
for three days, had two guys sitting in lawn chairs
in the back of our alley, just sitting there in
case something happened. Since it was COVID, they weren't allowed
to come in the house. So we had that covered
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and then but doing the draft essentially by myself dining
room table with my family there. It was just surreal.
Now I had, you know, I had you know, Anthony
Lynn on his zoom, I had the Scouts on his zoom,
I had ownership on his zoom. But it was interesting,
to say the least. But then to get you know,
to get that quarterback just you.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Know, okay, so let's let's talk about that quarterback. If
Tua was there and Herbert was there, in all honesty,
who would you picked take it?
Speaker 4 (09:22):
I kind of had good confidence where two it was
going THATFF wasn't.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
That's not the question that was asked, Senator. I don't recall.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
This is my can and it's been actually no issue.
But you forget, you know, two had a pretty serious
hip injury in college and we had concerns about long
term with that hip injury. Now, thankfully he hasn't had
any issues with that at all. And you know, sometimes
it's a little bit biased. You know, we saw justin
Herbert a lot on the West Coast. Our scout saw
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him a lot. We had done a ton of work
on him the year before because we thought he didn't
declare for the draft. He was our number our Kevin
Kelly was our college director, who's his number one quarterback
the year before, so we knew going in the year.
We really liked him. You know, he's big, strong, athletic.
And the big thing too was Anthony Lynn really liked
him as well, so we were both in the same path.
You know. Then the question was do we trade up
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to get him?
Speaker 6 (10:12):
Do we not?
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Can we sit and wait? And we had enough. It
was intually trying to gather information during COVID, but we
had enough information. We felt like two was going to
Miami and I was hoping nobody else would trade up
in front of user in front of Miami to take Justin.
Herbert at that point was just sitting way. You get
a little bit greedy, like I don't want to give
up picks. I want to come went to the quarterback
and I want my picks for later. But just to
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kind of fit that mobility part that that Anthony Lynn wanted,
and then all the intangibles that he was he was
the guy.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
No, he's he's unbelievable, unbelievable, and you know, it's interesting
this year they lose in the playoffs, he doesn't play
particularly well, and it's like, I get it, but did
you realize how well he played all season long to
get them to that place?
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Yeah, tremendous year, tremendous. And he has that that combination
of the physical talent and then the intangibles and the preparation,
the work ethic, and he's a perfectionist. And when your
quarterback works like that, everybody kind of falls in line.
Now he's outstanding.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
What about the league from a general manager's perspective, do
you know that others have no idea about it?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Seems like nowadays everybody knows everything, you know. The one
thing with the draft process is I think sometimes the
general feeling is a GM goes in his office, watches
tape and then puts the board up and decides who
he's picking. And it could be farther from the truth.
I mean, when a GM makes a decision on a player,
he's taking an information from his area scout, his cross checker,
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his director college scouting, his player personnel director, assistant GM,
head coach, coordinator, position coach, the analytics people, all the
data that we get there, doctors, the character back I mean,
all of these things are kind of putting into a
pot and then I'm making a decision off that's never
one person just standing on the table. Hey, I think
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we should draft so and so. So it's almost more
of a decision making job than I for talent job.
You know, I'm taking a lot of information and trying
to make decisions that way. So I think people just
think that we just did I just watched tape and
I'll look, AT's a great pick and brock Bowers, well,
you know about fifty people went into that pick. It
wasn't just that easy. Sure, And so if you're someone
on the outside who's evaluating the draft, like like DJ Daniel,
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Jeremiah Daniel can watch all the tape and then he
can get some information from teams. But it's a little
bit different. You're it's not just the tape. The tape's important, sure,
don't get me wrong, but it's not just that. It
has to be scheme fit. It has to be character
and medical and psychological testing. I was very big on
and then taking in all the opinions from the people
that we hire.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
On the psyche testing. What are you looking for just
to get a feel for the person. It's not necessarily
to disqualify them, but how do they learn, you know,
visual or verbal? But the big thing for me trying
to figure out, you know, drive and desire, the two
big things, like does he even drive to be great
and desire to be great? Because at this level it's
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just it's so competitive. It doesn't matter how good you are.
If you don't have that drive and desire to be
great and that work ethic, then you're not probably not
going to get to your ceiling.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
You're one of the first to you let Melvin Gordon walk,
And that was when the running back markets started kind
of started to stall.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Out, right.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
So Saque obviously had an incredible year, right, there were
really three running backs that had big years that left
you guys went to the je Jaos, Josh Jacobs goes
to the Packers, right, Aaron Jones goes to the Packers,
to the Vikings. He had a good year, and obviously
Saque had had a great year, and they they re
up Saque again, which I'm not sure i'd totally understand.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
My thought was the big fight wasn't behind the first year,
it was behind years two and especially year three in
those deals, right, But did running backs win did they like.
What's the status of running backs versus the general manager
as of whatever it is April twenty second, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
To me, it hasn't changed at all. It's strictly a
supply and demand. There's just there's a big supply running
backs there just is. There isn't a draft, usually isn't
a free agency, and the more there are available that
are you know, starting quality running backs, it just kind
of dilutes the market. But you also get like a
Sequon Barkley or Ashton Gente in my mind, that are
just a little bit above that. There's just a gap there.
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There are complete difference makers, blue ship players that are
worth that investment. I love Melvin Gordon. He was outstanding charger.
But as you're building the team and you have a
salary cap and deciding where money goes, there gets to
a point where you know, Austin Eckler was an up
and coming back, different style, but we're able to lock
him in at a different number and then use that
money somewhere else. At that point, we had some big
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needs in other places and we decide to use that
money other places. And I love Melbourne. I wanted to
keep them, but you know, you just have to make
team building decisions.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Last thing, what about you? You know you said, hey,
cams usually don't get a second shot of this thing
eleven years, But then you did get a second shot,
but only with the Raiders for a year. But again
we can say we won about wins and losses. There
were definitely some wins off the field or in drafting
or whatever.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
I don't know yet. I don't know. I'm just kinda
gonna take this time. I'm helping out doing some like
an offensive assistant at the local high school, which like
that in front of Delmorrow. I just I love high
school football. I love being around kids like that keeps
me in a practice every day. We got spring practice
tomorrow I'll be back for and I'm just keep my
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options open. I mean, I've been a football my entire life.
The NFL has been my life. There's no way I
could just not do it anymore. And we'll kind of
see what comes down down the pipe. But I'm gonna
do some of that. I'm gonna go see my son
play some college football this fall, which I couldn't do
last fall, and just kind of see what happens after that.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Look, I really appreciate you coming out and coming on
with this all this time. I have defended you because
Jason Stewart producing this year show, he's also a Charger fan.
He blames you for all things Brandon Staley. He's not
a Brandon Staley fan. Anything that goes bad, it's anything
in life that goes bad. It's Brandon Staley's fault, basically.
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But he's he's a bit of a negative nancy. But
you know his Dodgers won the World Series. So now
he's he's he has at least a partial grit, partial grit.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
You tell Jason that the Charters have things on the right,
the right path right now?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
They do, they do it. Thanks so much for joining us, right.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
That's my good friend Tom Tellusco joined us year on
the Doug Gotlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. You feel
better about that now, Chase do right? And he's and
I know what you're saying. Yeah, they got better. They're
in better place because they don't have that damn.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Braidon's stay exactly right.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I don't know if you saw, but it rained yesterday Wisconsin.
You know his fault that was that would be Brandon
Staley as well.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yep, that's that's how we that's how we roll. Here.
He's awesome, what a good sport.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
That's my good friend Tom tellusco here on the Doug
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in the NBA. He's a member of the Spurs championship
team in ninety nine. He's currently the color analyst for
the New Orleans Pelicans, and he's kind of to join
us and give us his thoughts on the playoffs, which
I thought last night was an amazing night in basketball. Right,
you have Detroit going into New York, Cad Cunningham helping
them get a win. Then the nightcap Clippers came close
(18:43):
in Game one Game two, Kawhi Leonard was the best
player on the floor, despite the fact he's playing against
a guy widely regarded as the best player in the world.
Tony is a guy who played in this league's covered
this league, and of course you being a former Spur,
what are your thoughts on Kawhi and what he's been
able to put to the other here.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Well, you know that this is one of those situations
where where low management actually has worked thus far. And
again it's only a small it is the two games
sample size. But if you look at the minute that
Kawhi Leonard played this year, He's played eleven and eighty
minutes this year, then Kola Joki has played over twenty
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five hundred minutes. So you're looking at it different of
two times as many minutes played by Nikola Jokis as
opposed to Kawhi Leonard. And in the first two games,
again we're only talking about a two end simple size,
but in these two games, Kawhi Leonard looks a lot fresher.
The Kola Jokis looks tired, not just physically but also
mentally because this team needs him to do a lot.
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And what kind of bothered me about yesterday's game, and
we talked about this on our seriahs Sexem show, is
they allow Kawhi Leonard to dictate the times of engagement.
You know, every time the Kola Jokic touched the basketball,
he was double team every time he touched the ball.
They ran two guys at him, they ran three guys
at him. Can you remember a time yesterday, Doug where
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the ball was taken out of Kawhi Leonard's hand deliberately
and they were saying to themselves, We're not going to
allow Kawhi Leonard to beat us, even though he has
it going on this particular night.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
No me neither.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
That's why he was the best player on the floor yesterday.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Agree with you? Okay? So what do you think of
this series? Again?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
There's two games in. You played in a bunch of
these nai adjustments are made. What's it like the Copper
the Clippers are able to win this series?
Speaker 5 (20:40):
I think the likelihoods h I picked Denver. I picked
Denver in six.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
The thing is, I feel like Toron lou is one
of the best coaches in the league as far as
in game and postgame assessment to concern. He does a
fantastic job of doing just that, like knowing what needs
to be taken away, taking something away, And right now,
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it really doesn't look like the different Nuggets have enough.
It doesn't You can make an argument that they should
have lost Game one. The Clippers were more were more focused.
But now it's one to ones. Going back to La
and if Nicola Yokis doesn't go nuclear, right, if he
doesn't give you a thirty point triple double, a forty
point triple double, whatever it may be, I can't see
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Denver pulling this series ault because I don't think they
have enough firepower.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah it's interesting, I mean what do they really have,
especially off the bench outside of Russ? And Russ is
so enigmatic even when he's good, I don't know if
he has enough help off that bench. I think you
bring up a lot of really, really really good points.
The Warriors go in and win Game one against the Rockets.
This Rockets crew individually, you have some guys that have
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had a lot of success in the playoffs but collect
not a ton. How much of that is matchups? How
much of that is Hey, it's their first playoff game
and they'll adjust.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
I feel like it's all matchups. I do, and no
disrespect to the Houston Rockets. There are certain teams right
now that are playing that I feel like it's a
awful matchup for them, The Knicks and Detroit. If i'm
the Knicks, I don't want to play Detroit first round.
If I'm the Lakers, I don't want to play Minnesota
first round. Right if I'm the Rockets, I don't want
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to play Golden State first round, regardless of seeds, because
it's about matchups. They say, styles make fights. Sometimes you
can play against the team that everything that you're not
good at, they are good at. Right, everything that you
don't have with your team, they do have. And when
you look at Golden State and Houston, Houston has excellent
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point of attack defenders, right, Aman Thompson and Tory Easton
and Dylan Brooks, these guys are excellent point of attack defenders.
You know what Golden State doesn't have. They don't have
a point of attack offensive players. They don't have guys
that are trying to beat you off the dribble and
break you down. Right. Their offense is geared and based
on movement and screening and slits and read and reaction.
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So what Houston does well kind of offsets what Golden
State does well. So I think this is a really, really,
really tough matchup for the Houston Rockets, and I think
for Ceria six Tim I believe I picked Golden State
in five, I picked them. Six, I pick Golden State
and six.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Did you like Minnesota as well?
Speaker 5 (23:33):
I know I like the Lakers, but I feel like
this is the toughest matchup in the Western Conference that
the Lakers could have had first round. Like anybody else
Oklahoma City, Memphis, the Clippers, Denver. I feel like this
is the toughest matchup that the Lakers could have had
first round because of fne Edwards. One, because of fne Edwards.
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He's a guy that's excellent offensively, and he can point
out where he wants certain guys that he wants to target.
He can target Luca, he can target Arson Reeves, he
can target Lebron's aims. And the other thing that NPHUS
has is they have size and physicality. You know what
the Lakers don't have. They don't have size and they
don't have physicality. Minnesota has the ability and the versatility
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to play small ball, but the Lakers don't have the
versatility to play big ball. As big as they can
get at Jackson Hayes and is he big and strong
enough to contain Rudy Gobert, nas Reeds and Julius Rendall.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, Again, I look at this and everybody's going to
point to the threes that Minnesota made in Game one.
I just think it's because the Lakers couldn't guard him,
so you got to help with somebody, you help and
they hit open threes, right and.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Again, when you have a guy that's that's good offensively,
at Anthony Edwards. We had a caller call in the
show today and say, well, you know what, if they
contain Anthony Edwards, then they would win, Like yeah, like obviously,
like he's one of the best players in the world.
You're know how difficult is to contain that guy. Though,
When you have guys in this league that are that skills,
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with that much freedom, it's hard to contain those guys.
And the thing about Lucas, the thing about Lebron, and
the thing about Austin Reeves is none of those guys
are defensive guys. None of them. Your defensive guys are
Dave Vincent, Jared Vanderbilt and Ruey Hotchimora. But if you
have those guys on the floor, now you're losing what
you bring offensively. I think this series is gonna come
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down to those three guys, meaning Luca, Lebron, and Austin Reeves.
They're gonna have to show out offensively because you're not
going to be able to stop those guys. They're gonna
be able to get what they want offensively. But can
their offense, meaning the Minnesota Timberwolves match that of the
Lakers firepower?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
It's a great question. I don't know the answer to it.
I think they can, but again I don't know. Game
one in obviously they had just more firepower. But we'll see,
we'll see moving forward. Landry Fields fired yesterday as a
GM of the Hawks. I guess my question to you
is is there a fix for the Hawks with Trey
(26:10):
Young remaining on the roster.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Yeah, I mean I don't think. I mean, I can understand,
I understand where you're going with the question, but I
don't think Trey Young is the biggest issue. Does he
have issues, Yeah, he's smaller, he struggles defensively, but listen,
he's a guy that is impactful. He gives you twenty
three to twenty four and ten a night, you know. So,
(26:35):
I don't think it's as much about Trey Young as
it is about what's surrounding Tray Young. And you can
say that with all guys in this league. This league
is about surrounding guys and drafting guys and acquiring guys
whose skill set match what's your star needs. And I
think that's easier said than done. Like it's easy to
be on the outside and say, man, what they need
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to do is what they should do is so on
and so forth. Easier said than done. And right now,
the Atlanta Hawks, the way they're currently constructed, they're a
mintal of the pack team. That's say it. They're a
mineral of the pack team. Now, what can you do
now moving forward? Also, timing, timing is important, you know
what you think about it? They had the number one
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overall pick in the draft, and what would you say
about this last year's draft? Down right, timing is everything.
Things are different if Atlanta had the first overall pick
in this draft. Now we're having a different conversation about
the future of this team and how they look moving forward.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
It's a really really fair fair point.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Some of it does come down to luck, right, Like,
you you're lucky to getting the first pick. Bad news
is you're lucky to get in the first pick where
it's more developmental pick as opposed to a Cooper flag who,
though young, looks like he's ready to contribute right away.
Damian Lillard back for the Bucks as they take on
the Pacers tonight. I mean, no one talks more trash
(27:59):
this legs like the Tyrese Haliburton, what happens in that series.
I mean, Lord hasn't played, Like part of it is
he hasn't played in a while, as those blood glats.
So it's I think if you have expectations he's gonna be,
he's gonna be, you know, dame time is that that's
probably not gonna happen because he hasn't played.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Hoop.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
What do you think we can expect from Damian Lillard
after this long absence?
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Well, I can tell you one thing you can expect.
You can expect the minutes restriction, that's for sure, because
I can't think of the time where a player's returned
back from injury and hasn't had some symbolis of a
minus restriction where you just when the guy's out five weeks,
you don't just unleash him in the playoffs like, you
know what, go play forty minutes, you know. So I'm
sure is his minutes restriction to be about twenty eight
(28:45):
to twenty nine minutes are under But what Damian Lillard
brings just a threat sometimes, and this is what I
wish star players understood. Sometimes you don't have to be
at one hundred percent to make an impact because you
know what Damian Lillard gives Yiannis that nobody else on
that team can. It's space.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Space.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Yeah, so just a mere presence of him being on
that floor will give Giannis, make Giannis's game a little
more stress free. And again I get it. You know
he hasn't played in five weeks. Can we say all
the time, when a guy returns from a lengthy absence,
he's either going to be really good or really bad.
There's usually no great area. So I think how Dan
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Luller plays tonight with it, with his minutes restrictions may
be the difference between Milwaukee walking out victorious in Game
two or not.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
That's a great point.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Tell man, I can listen to talk, I can talk
hoop with you all day, but I got it. I
gotta get an update, and we got to get your break.
I know you do a ton of work it on
serious s exam. We appreciate you spend some time with us.
Let's talk next week. Thanks for our guest.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
For sure, I appreciate you. Brother.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Oh Way, listen my guy, Antonio Daniels. He played thirteen
years in the league. He won an NBA Championship with
the Spurs in ninety nine, and of course he's a
color analyst for the Pals.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
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Speaker 8 (30:50):
The press, okay, Doug Today. Dallas Cowboys owner and general
manager Jerry Jones, let men go. I'm yes him, said
after the team's pre draft news conference if the Cowboys
are working on quote pretty substantive trades unquote, although Jones
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did not offer any specifics other than saying they are
taking calls with teams.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I mean, there's only like two or three guys that
you really want off of the Cowboys. They're not trading
Dak Prescott. Ken't so Micah Parsons like that's that's incredibly substantive.
I don't think he's pretty substantive, but I also don't
think they'll trade him.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
Settled in just a little bit, and.
Speaker 8 (31:46):
I just realized the general managers of the two most
prominent sports teams in Dallas right now, Jerry Jones and
Nico Harrison, feel bad for certain fans and said he's
all right on to hey.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
I Low put me out.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yeah, Dallas Mavericks. What round did they lose in the last.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Night last year?
Speaker 8 (32:10):
That would be last year as opposed to this year
when they all right a point point taken point taken.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
No, it's the only point that needs to be made.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
It's like like last year, he traded, he drafted Lively,
he traded for PJ. Washington, he traded for Gafford. The
Kyrie Irving trade, everybody said it was a bad trade.
Was it a bad trade the end? No, So again
I would say that I wasn't gonna, I wouldn't have
traded Luca, but the immediate returns are not necessarily returns.
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And I don't know anybody could have said, hey, Kyrie's
gonna tear his ACL there. So yeah, I don't feel
bad for Mavericks fans. They got to go to the
NBA Finals last year.
Speaker 8 (32:51):
Fair point, fair point. I'm just going by the Luca trade,
and the Luca trade was handled from a public stamp.
The NBA today fined Minnesota timberlves guard Anthony Edwards doug
fifty thousand dollars for quote, directing inappropriate language and making
an obscene gesture toward a fan unquote definitely did yeah.
(33:13):
During Saturday's victory over the Lakers in Game one of
the playoffs, Edwards was disciplined when he was caught on
video claiming that he had a better and a bigger
Devincenzo whoa and then making a commensurate gesture.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Well, I like the first part that he's somebody's heckling
Rudy Gobert. He's like, he's got two hundred million, but uh,
the other part was obviously a bridge too far.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Fifty thousand dollars is pretty steep. I don't care how
much money you make.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Somebody's like, hey, you got to write fifty thousand dollars
check to a charity.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
Like rahaps he could ask mister Gobert for a loan. Meanwhile,
in the world of college football, the game times for
the next season's College Football Playoff were announced today, and
you know that's over eight months away. But what's notable is,
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as long as like I can remember, the Rose Bowl
has always started at five pm Eastern two pm Pacific,
and one of the things about the Rose Bowl the
iconic southern California sunset on the San Gabriel Mountains. Well,
this year's Rose Bowl has been moved one hour earlier,
will now kick off at four pm Eastern time one
(34:25):
pm Pacific, So we might miss out on that iconic
sunset visual of the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
That sucks, I know, that secks.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
But as we told you, the Rose Bull died when
so in the Pac ten went away.
Speaker 8 (34:39):
I know, I know, it's just kind of hard to
get used to. Speaking of hard to get used to.
This is actually a sad story that just came down
moments ago. I'm not sure if you crossed paths with
this person or worked with them earlier in your career.
But Mike Patrick the longtime voice of Sunday Night Football
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back in the late eighties and the nineties, and also
a longtime voice of college basketball for ESPN and college
football for ESPN. He has passed away at the age
of eighty. Died on Sunday of natural causes. He was
the announcer for Sunday Night Football for eighteen seasons and
(35:22):
as I said, also longtime college basketball and college football announcer.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
I didn't work with him. How about this one.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Mike Patrick was the play by play announcer for my
dad's teams at Jacksonville.
Speaker 8 (35:33):
No kidding, small world, Wow, I seem to recall him, man, Yeah,
I seem to recall him also announcing games on a
package called Raycom, which was like a big syndicated college
basketball package back in the day. So that news actually
(35:53):
just came down. And one other thing that we mentioned
on our last report that I wanted to obviously give
you a chance to comment on our item here the
Boston Celtics officially listing Jason Tatum now as doubtful for
Game two of the playoffs tomorrow against the Orlando Magic
because of his right wrist injury.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
That's huge.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I mean, look, Peyton Bridgard has been amazing this year,
and obviously you got Jaylen Brown, but that team's ability
to compete and win championships is largely based upon Jason
Tatum is a top five player in the NBA, so
we'll see. Doubtful doesn't mean out, but it is his
shooting risk and that could.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Be a problematic.
Speaker 8 (36:29):
And that concludes this edition of the Press by get
out there and pressed.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
That was the.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Press Stuck got Leeb show here on Fox Sports Radio.
If you haven't downloaded the podcast, please do so. After
the show you'll love it. We got about thirty minutes
of Frank Cally and today got an extended interview with
Tom Telesco as well tomorrow. It really starts to crank
up here right draft his Thursday Tomorrow night, Dear Heart,
(36:59):
just it them after item, thing after thing, going on concerts, shows,
et cetera. As for us, we actually have a fundraiser,
Dan Patrick's helping us do a prep for the draft.
He and Frank Tom Telesco some other former NFL players
as well. Gonna stop by and we'll just gibbets if
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you will. You like that kibbots about the draft. As
for the NBA, was surprised by the Knicks loss, not
surprised by the Clippers and their win tonight. You got
two games Oklahoma City or three game excuse me, Oklahoma City.
They were merciless, merciless against Memphis in Game one. Indie
(37:42):
Milwaukee's interesting because you have Damian Lillard back, but who
knows about minister restrictions. Then the nightcap Lakers Timberwolves. Lakers
are a five and a half point favorite. I still
think I'd take the Timberwolves. I know series changed from
one game to the next, but that one feels like
a bad batchup for the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
It just does. I would go.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Bucks, I would go timber Wolves as two underdogs, and
then I would probably go Oklahoma City. All right, back
tomorrow from the draft in Green Bay. This is Doug
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Coming to you from Kareen Bay, Wisconsin. We got great
podcast for you upcoming. You listen to the podcast on
a daily basis, you can always download download this entire
show wherever you get podcasts is type in Doug Gottlieb
And we got about thirty minutes with Frank Caliendo that
(00:41):
I think you'll really really like. I think you'll probably laugh,
You'll probably enjoy it. He is a comedian.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
He does it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
One of my coaches picked him up at the airport
and when he dropped him off, he came in my office.
He's like, man, Frank is really funny. I was like,
you know, he's a comedian that tends to happen. Yeah,
that tends to happen. The NFL Draft, obviously, is what
do we like? T minus forty fifty hours fifty hours away, right,
something like that. I don't know exact timing of it,
(01:09):
but you can see where the draft will take place
from my vantage point high atop the Legacy Hotel and
we're in the sixth floor overlooking the Rest Center, the
Don Hudson Center, and of course lambeau Field, and just
to the side, I guess it would be the northeast side. Yeah,
(01:30):
northeast side of lambeau Field. Next to the atrium is
the stage and the setup where where players will be
draft to welcome up on the stage by the NFL's commissioner,
Tom Telesco. This is year thirty one or year one, right.
For the last thirty years, he's been all the way
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from a scout up to an assistant GM in his
days of Bill Pollie and Buffalo and Indy, and then
his days for eleven years a general manager of Jase
Stewing my LA, then San Diego Chargers, and of course
after losing his job last year, he got to be
the GM of.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
The Raiders for a year.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And you know, look, Tom, you and I have talked
about this a bunch that you draft Brock Bauers, who
ends up being a great player, But maybe because you
didn't draft a quarterback, you you didn't get the extra
time that you would have needed. When if your quarterback
doesn't play well, you go, well, at least he's a
he's a rookie. Looking back, Okay, hindsight's obviously twenty twenty.
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Would you do it any differently?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Well, if what I know, I had one year to
get it done, yeah maybe I would have. I don't
think does a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Does a rookie quarterback by you time?
Speaker 5 (02:43):
It?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Potentially could? I think in this situation, I think things
just changed above me that they figure he like, we're
starting from scratch or starting over. So I don't know
if it would have made a difference if we had
gotten a quarterback or not. I'll never know. It just
didn't work out, so we went with the next player
that we thought could really help us, which is brock Powers.
But yeah, as you're building the team, and when we
(03:04):
had a lot of needs, with quarterback being the priority one,
it may take a couple of years to get there.
It didn't necessarily think I had to get it all
done in one year, But I don't think it would
have mattered. I think there were it was gonna be
a complete change. We're starting from scratch and here we go.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
I know.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
But when they let you go into but I I drafted,
drafted Rock Bowers like I did.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
We also didn't win very many games.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I got it.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
But again, what is your job? You know, get better players?
You did your your job. Maybe that's selfish friendship.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
If we would have won more and made the playoffs
of the wildcard, maybe things would have been different. But
we didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Okay, So what about the process of your sitting there
with your draft board and when did you go like,
oh my god, he's going to be there for us.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
So I'd say about two weeks before. You know, we
do a lot of draft management of what could happen
and then how it will adjust.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
We do it all before this than that.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yes, if this then that, we hadn't talked about Bowers
a lot. Number one, we thought we was gonna go
pretty much a lot of earlier. Where then we were,
you know, the regime before had drafted Michael Mayer from
Notre Dame. You know, we want to go back to
back tight ends. That doesn't sound right. So hadn't talked
late in the process a lot about it, and in
two weeks before, I'm looking, I'm like, you know, there's
(04:14):
a scenario where he could be there, thought about some more.
I run downstairs to Antonio's office and I'm like, hey,
I didn't tell him what I was thinking. I said, Hey,
if we get to this spot and this guy's gone,
this guy going, this guy's gone, and brock Bowers is
there and then these other two players, what do you think?
And he's thinking, and he's like, should I'd probably go
brock Bowers. I'm like, no kidding, I said, so would I.
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And with the thinking being like, look, we need some
juice on offense, like we got a score, and if
we don't have a big time quarterback, we're gonna have
to build around him. And look, brock bar I know
he plays tight end. I'll shoot, I'll put on the car,
I'll put receiver and I'll send it in. I don't
care likes he's a big slot. So two weeks before
we had that conversation, I said, all right, let's sleep
on it. Let's this was an old Bill Pollyon. Let's
(05:00):
foind out. Let's look at some tape tonight. We'll come
back tomorrow. I'll talk about it again. So we slept
on it, did a little more working back in the morning,
and we both felt the same way, like he, look
if he's there and these guys are gone, and let's
let's do it. So when the draft was rolling, when
he was, you know, we had a plan like, look,
if he's there in this situation, that's that's the guy
we're going to go with.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
It's crazy, it's it's really interesting because.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
The juxtaposition of okay that with the Quentin Johnson draft pick.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
So I texted you I think the next day. I
think I let it breathe for a second for the
next day, and I was like, man, can he catch?
And You're like, actually, his was his catch ratio or something.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Is about eighty nine eighty eighty nine, ninety somewhere on there,
right at the threshold.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
For me, what's that? What's what's you want? Ninety percent?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
There shouldn't be lower than eighty eight percent. If it's
lower in eighty eight, that's probably not.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
What we're Because you've had it's like the mixed bag
of you adapted some really good wide receivers, and especially
in this town where everybody wants them to go get
a wide receiver and they're like, you know, it's kind
of worked out what we've done here.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, so what what is that? Like?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
What why is it? It seems like positionally that's the
hardest one to that. It's the lowest percentage of hit rate.
It feels like.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Trying to think it's I know in freenency, it's very low, uh,
draft wise in the first round. Yeah, it's it's not.
I mean, look, the first round in general is about
fifty five percent, which isn't very good.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So when I I by the way, I use your
stats all the time, when you say fifty five percent,
that means fifty five percent that they will hit on like.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Long term starters.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Long term starters is what a first round draft pick
supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Yeah, I mean, ideally you'd like a Pro Bowl in
that first you know, a difference maker Pro Bowl.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
No, But I mean what the percentage of if you're
if you're in the positive, it means that you've achieved
whatever the general standard for that draft pick is, right.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Essentially, it depends. You can look at the studies a
lot of different ways as far as what your qualifications are,
but you know you're looking for long at the very
at least a long term starter for their first round pick,
you know, hopefully a tops arder and if you hit,
it's a pro bowler.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Uh, your favorite pick that you've ever made as a GM.
Can't do before you were for your GM. So you
had eleven with the Chargers, one with the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I mean it's like like I got three kids, which
one you like the most?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Well, you know right now it's Harper, but it occasionally, yeah,
it does. Or just the best story, you know what.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
One of the good stories, you know, the the Justin
Herbert draft was the COVID draft where we had to
draft from our houses individually and leading up to the draft.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Definitely won that draft, by the way, being in Newport Beach,
like there's a lot of other people like, hmm to Lesco's.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Winning this one. You and Kingsbury. Kingsbury won that one
was a little nicer.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
But no, our location was pretty good. But yeah, it
was about a month before the draft was I'm on.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I was on.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
I was on the gym advisory committee and the commissioner
asked us about the draft about, hey, look we're thinking
about doing it where you can't go to your building,
you can't go in the draft. Room. You have to
do it from your house, and you have to hook
up with everybody you know via Wi Fi and Zoom.
And I stood up and I'm like, there's no way
that can happen. It's no way it's gonna work. That
we don't have the infrastructure. We got to be with
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our people, I got to be with our staff. Impossible,
never work. And he told me to pound sand and
he was right. It worked now. It took a lot
of work. I had no idea what Zoom was at
that point.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
But isn't that crazy that like literally and knowing it
now it's it's like in every every people use it
every single day.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
And it was all because of cod It's COVID.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
So I had my dining room table, I had about
I don't know five laptops set up in different Zoom groups.
And then I was worried about if the Wi Fi
goes out, we can't get a pick in. So I
had an AT and T truck parked behind our house
for three days, had two guys sitting in lawn chairs
in the back of our alley, just sitting there in
case something happened. Since it was COVID, they weren't allowed
to come in the house. So we had that covered
(08:56):
and then but doing the draft essentially by myself dining
room table with my family there. It was just surreal.
Now I had, you know, I had you know, Anthony
Lynn on his zoom, I had the Scouts on his zoom,
I had ownership on his zoom. But it was interesting,
to say the least. But then to get you know,
to get that quarterback just you.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Know, okay, so let's let's talk about that quarterback. If
Tua was there and Herbert was there, in all honesty,
who would you picked take it?
Speaker 4 (09:22):
I kind of had good confidence where two it was
going THATFF wasn't.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
That's not the question that was asked, Senator. I don't recall.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
This is my can and it's been actually no issue.
But you forget, you know, two had a pretty serious
hip injury in college and we had concerns about long
term with that hip injury. Now, thankfully he hasn't had
any issues with that at all. And you know, sometimes
it's a little bit biased. You know, we saw justin
Herbert a lot on the West Coast. Our scout saw
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him a lot. We had done a ton of work
on him the year before because we thought he didn't
declare for the draft. He was our number our Kevin
Kelly was our college director, who's his number one quarterback
the year before, so we knew going in the year.
We really liked him. You know, he's big, strong, athletic.
And the big thing too was Anthony Lynn really liked
him as well, so we were both in the same path.
You know. Then the question was do we trade up
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to get him?
Speaker 6 (10:12):
Do we not?
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Can we sit and wait? And we had enough. It
was intually trying to gather information during COVID, but we
had enough information. We felt like two was going to
Miami and I was hoping nobody else would trade up
in front of user in front of Miami to take Justin.
Herbert at that point was just sitting way. You get
a little bit greedy, like I don't want to give
up picks. I want to come went to the quarterback
and I want my picks for later. But just to
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kind of fit that mobility part that that Anthony Lynn wanted,
and then all the intangibles that he was he was
the guy.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
No, he's he's unbelievable, unbelievable, and you know, it's interesting
this year they lose in the playoffs, he doesn't play
particularly well, and it's like, I get it, but did
you realize how well he played all season long to
get them to that place?
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Yeah, tremendous year, tremendous. And he has that that combination
of the physical talent and then the intangibles and the preparation,
the work ethic, and he's a perfectionist. And when your
quarterback works like that, everybody kind of falls in line.
Now he's outstanding.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
What about the league from a general manager's perspective, do
you know that others have no idea about it?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Seems like nowadays everybody knows everything, you know. The one
thing with the draft process is I think sometimes the
general feeling is a GM goes in his office, watches
tape and then puts the board up and decides who
he's picking. And it could be farther from the truth.
I mean, when a GM makes a decision on a player,
he's taking an information from his area scout, his cross checker,
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his director college scouting, his player personnel director, assistant GM,
head coach, coordinator, position coach, the analytics people, all the
data that we get there, doctors, the character back I mean,
all of these things are kind of putting into a
pot and then I'm making a decision off that's never
one person just standing on the table. Hey, I think
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we should draft so and so. So it's almost more
of a decision making job than I for talent job.
You know, I'm taking a lot of information and trying
to make decisions that way. So I think people just
think that we just did I just watched tape and
I'll look, AT's a great pick and brock Bowers, well,
you know about fifty people went into that pick. It
wasn't just that easy. Sure, And so if you're someone
on the outside who's evaluating the draft, like like DJ Daniel,
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Jeremiah Daniel can watch all the tape and then he
can get some information from teams. But it's a little
bit different. You're it's not just the tape. The tape's important, sure,
don't get me wrong, but it's not just that. It
has to be scheme fit. It has to be character
and medical and psychological testing. I was very big on
and then taking in all the opinions from the people
that we hire.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
On the psyche testing. What are you looking for just
to get a feel for the person. It's not necessarily
to disqualify them, but how do they learn, you know,
visual or verbal? But the big thing for me trying
to figure out, you know, drive and desire, the two
big things, like does he even drive to be great
and desire to be great? Because at this level it's
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just it's so competitive. It doesn't matter how good you are.
If you don't have that drive and desire to be
great and that work ethic, then you're not probably not
going to get to your ceiling.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
You're one of the first to you let Melvin Gordon walk,
And that was when the running back markets started kind
of started to stall.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Out, right.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
So Saque obviously had an incredible year, right, there were
really three running backs that had big years that left
you guys went to the je Jaos, Josh Jacobs goes
to the Packers, right, Aaron Jones goes to the Packers,
to the Vikings. He had a good year, and obviously
Saque had had a great year, and they they re
up Saque again, which I'm not sure i'd totally understand.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
My thought was the big fight wasn't behind the first year,
it was behind years two and especially year three in
those deals, right, But did running backs win did they like.
What's the status of running backs versus the general manager
as of whatever it is April twenty second, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
To me, it hasn't changed at all. It's strictly a
supply and demand. There's just there's a big supply running
backs there just is. There isn't a draft, usually isn't
a free agency, and the more there are available that
are you know, starting quality running backs, it just kind
of dilutes the market. But you also get like a
Sequon Barkley or Ashton Gente in my mind, that are
just a little bit above that. There's just a gap there.
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There are complete difference makers, blue ship players that are
worth that investment. I love Melvin Gordon. He was outstanding charger.
But as you're building the team and you have a
salary cap and deciding where money goes, there gets to
a point where you know, Austin Eckler was an up
and coming back, different style, but we're able to lock
him in at a different number and then use that
money somewhere else. At that point, we had some big
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needs in other places and we decide to use that
money other places. And I love Melbourne. I wanted to
keep them, but you know, you just have to make
team building decisions.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Last thing, what about you? You know you said, hey,
cams usually don't get a second shot of this thing
eleven years, But then you did get a second shot,
but only with the Raiders for a year. But again
we can say we won about wins and losses. There
were definitely some wins off the field or in drafting
or whatever.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
I don't know yet. I don't know. I'm just kinda
gonna take this time. I'm helping out doing some like
an offensive assistant at the local high school, which like
that in front of Delmorrow. I just I love high
school football. I love being around kids like that keeps
me in a practice every day. We got spring practice
tomorrow I'll be back for and I'm just keep my
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options open. I mean, I've been a football my entire life.
The NFL has been my life. There's no way I
could just not do it anymore. And we'll kind of
see what comes down down the pipe. But I'm gonna
do some of that. I'm gonna go see my son
play some college football this fall, which I couldn't do
last fall, and just kind of see what happens after that.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Look, I really appreciate you coming out and coming on
with this all this time. I have defended you because
Jason Stewart producing this year show, he's also a Charger fan.
He blames you for all things Brandon Staley. He's not
a Brandon Staley fan. Anything that goes bad, it's anything
in life that goes bad. It's Brandon Staley's fault, basically.
(16:13):
But he's he's a bit of a negative nancy. But
you know his Dodgers won the World Series. So now
he's he's he has at least a partial grit, partial grit.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
You tell Jason that the Charters have things on the right,
the right path right now?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
They do, they do it. Thanks so much for joining us, right.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
That's my good friend Tom Tellusco joined us year on
the Doug Gotlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. You feel
better about that now, Chase do right? And he's and
I know what you're saying. Yeah, they got better. They're
in better place because they don't have that damn.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Braidon's stay exactly right.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I don't know if you saw, but it rained yesterday Wisconsin.
You know his fault that was that would be Brandon
Staley as well.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yep, that's that's how we that's how we roll. Here.
He's awesome, what a good sport.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
That's my good friend Tom tellusco here on the Doug
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Dollars Shave Club. Antonio Daniels, of course, played thirteen years
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in the NBA. He's a member of the Spurs championship
team in ninety nine. He's currently the color analyst for
the New Orleans Pelicans, and he's kind of to join
us and give us his thoughts on the playoffs, which
I thought last night was an amazing night in basketball. Right,
you have Detroit going into New York, Cad Cunningham helping
them get a win. Then the nightcap Clippers came close
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in Game one Game two, Kawhi Leonard was the best
player on the floor, despite the fact he's playing against
a guy widely regarded as the best player in the world.
Tony is a guy who played in this league's covered
this league, and of course you being a former Spur,
what are your thoughts on Kawhi and what he's been
able to put to the other here.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Well, you know that this is one of those situations
where where low management actually has worked thus far. And
again it's only a small it is the two games
sample size. But if you look at the minute that
Kawhi Leonard played this year, He's played eleven and eighty
minutes this year, then Kola Joki has played over twenty
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five hundred minutes. So you're looking at it different of
two times as many minutes played by Nikola Jokis as
opposed to Kawhi Leonard. And in the first two games,
again we're only talking about a two end simple size,
but in these two games, Kawhi Leonard looks a lot fresher.
The Kola Jokis looks tired, not just physically but also
mentally because this team needs him to do a lot.
(19:45):
And what kind of bothered me about yesterday's game, and
we talked about this on our seriahs Sexem show, is
they allow Kawhi Leonard to dictate the times of engagement.
You know, every time the Kola Jokic touched the basketball,
he was double team every time he touched the ball.
They ran two guys at him, they ran three guys
at him. Can you remember a time yesterday, Doug where
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the ball was taken out of Kawhi Leonard's hand deliberately
and they were saying to themselves, We're not going to
allow Kawhi Leonard to beat us, even though he has
it going on this particular night.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
No me neither.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
That's why he was the best player on the floor yesterday.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Agree with you? Okay? So what do you think of
this series? Again?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
There's two games in. You played in a bunch of
these nai adjustments are made. What's it like the Copper
the Clippers are able to win this series?
Speaker 5 (20:40):
I think the likelihoods h I picked Denver. I picked
Denver in six.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
The thing is, I feel like Toron lou is one
of the best coaches in the league as far as
in game and postgame assessment to concern. He does a
fantastic job of doing just that, like knowing what needs
to be taken away, taking something away, And right now,
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it really doesn't look like the different Nuggets have enough.
It doesn't You can make an argument that they should
have lost Game one. The Clippers were more were more focused.
But now it's one to ones. Going back to La
and if Nicola Yokis doesn't go nuclear, right, if he
doesn't give you a thirty point triple double, a forty
point triple double, whatever it may be, I can't see
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Denver pulling this series ault because I don't think they
have enough firepower.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah it's interesting, I mean what do they really have,
especially off the bench outside of Russ? And Russ is
so enigmatic even when he's good, I don't know if
he has enough help off that bench. I think you
bring up a lot of really, really really good points.
The Warriors go in and win Game one against the Rockets.
This Rockets crew individually, you have some guys that have
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had a lot of success in the playoffs but collect
not a ton. How much of that is matchups? How
much of that is Hey, it's their first playoff game
and they'll adjust.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
I feel like it's all matchups. I do, and no
disrespect to the Houston Rockets. There are certain teams right
now that are playing that I feel like it's a
awful matchup for them, The Knicks and Detroit. If i'm
the Knicks, I don't want to play Detroit first round.
If I'm the Lakers, I don't want to play Minnesota
first round. Right if I'm the Rockets, I don't want
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to play Golden State first round, regardless of seeds, because
it's about matchups. They say, styles make fights. Sometimes you
can play against the team that everything that you're not
good at, they are good at. Right, everything that you
don't have with your team, they do have. And when
you look at Golden State and Houston, Houston has excellent
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point of attack defenders, right, Aman Thompson and Tory Easton
and Dylan Brooks, these guys are excellent point of attack defenders.
You know what Golden State doesn't have. They don't have
a point of attack offensive players. They don't have guys
that are trying to beat you off the dribble and
break you down. Right. Their offense is geared and based
on movement and screening and slits and read and reaction.
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So what Houston does well kind of offsets what Golden
State does well. So I think this is a really, really,
really tough matchup for the Houston Rockets, and I think
for Ceria six Tim I believe I picked Golden State
in five, I picked them. Six, I pick Golden State
and six.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Did you like Minnesota as well?
Speaker 5 (23:33):
I know I like the Lakers, but I feel like
this is the toughest matchup in the Western Conference that
the Lakers could have had first round. Like anybody else
Oklahoma City, Memphis, the Clippers, Denver. I feel like this
is the toughest matchup that the Lakers could have had
first round because of fne Edwards. One, because of fne Edwards.
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He's a guy that's excellent offensively, and he can point
out where he wants certain guys that he wants to target.
He can target Luca, he can target Arson Reeves, he
can target Lebron's aims. And the other thing that NPHUS
has is they have size and physicality. You know what
the Lakers don't have. They don't have size and they
don't have physicality. Minnesota has the ability and the versatility
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to play small ball, but the Lakers don't have the
versatility to play big ball. As big as they can
get at Jackson Hayes and is he big and strong
enough to contain Rudy Gobert, nas Reeds and Julius Rendall.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, Again, I look at this and everybody's going to
point to the threes that Minnesota made in Game one.
I just think it's because the Lakers couldn't guard him,
so you got to help with somebody, you help and
they hit open threes, right and.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Again, when you have a guy that's that's good offensively,
at Anthony Edwards. We had a caller call in the
show today and say, well, you know what, if they
contain Anthony Edwards, then they would win, Like yeah, like obviously,
like he's one of the best players in the world.
You're know how difficult is to contain that guy. Though,
When you have guys in this league that are that skills,
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with that much freedom, it's hard to contain those guys.
And the thing about Lucas, the thing about Lebron, and
the thing about Austin Reeves is none of those guys
are defensive guys. None of them. Your defensive guys are
Dave Vincent, Jared Vanderbilt and Ruey Hotchimora. But if you
have those guys on the floor, now you're losing what
you bring offensively. I think this series is gonna come
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down to those three guys, meaning Luca, Lebron, and Austin Reeves.
They're gonna have to show out offensively because you're not
going to be able to stop those guys. They're gonna
be able to get what they want offensively. But can
their offense, meaning the Minnesota Timberwolves match that of the
Lakers firepower?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
It's a great question. I don't know the answer to it.
I think they can, but again I don't know. Game
one in obviously they had just more firepower. But we'll see,
we'll see moving forward. Landry Fields fired yesterday as a
GM of the Hawks. I guess my question to you
is is there a fix for the Hawks with Trey
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Young remaining on the roster.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Yeah, I mean I don't think. I mean, I can understand,
I understand where you're going with the question, but I
don't think Trey Young is the biggest issue. Does he
have issues, Yeah, he's smaller, he struggles defensively, but listen,
he's a guy that is impactful. He gives you twenty
three to twenty four and ten a night, you know. So,
(26:35):
I don't think it's as much about Trey Young as
it is about what's surrounding Tray Young. And you can
say that with all guys in this league. This league
is about surrounding guys and drafting guys and acquiring guys
whose skill set match what's your star needs. And I
think that's easier said than done. Like it's easy to
be on the outside and say, man, what they need
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to do is what they should do is so on
and so forth. Easier said than done. And right now,
the Atlanta Hawks, the way they're currently constructed, they're a
mintal of the pack team. That's say it. They're a
mineral of the pack team. Now, what can you do
now moving forward? Also, timing, timing is important, you know
what you think about it? They had the number one
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overall pick in the draft, and what would you say
about this last year's draft? Down right, timing is everything.
Things are different if Atlanta had the first overall pick
in this draft. Now we're having a different conversation about
the future of this team and how they look moving forward.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
It's a really really fair fair point.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Some of it does come down to luck, right, Like,
you you're lucky to getting the first pick. Bad news
is you're lucky to get in the first pick where
it's more developmental pick as opposed to a Cooper flag who,
though young, looks like he's ready to contribute right away.
Damian Lillard back for the Bucks as they take on
the Pacers tonight. I mean, no one talks more trash
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this legs like the Tyrese Haliburton, what happens in that series.
I mean, Lord hasn't played, Like part of it is
he hasn't played in a while, as those blood glats.
So it's I think if you have expectations he's gonna be,
he's gonna be, you know, dame time is that that's
probably not gonna happen because he hasn't played.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Hoop.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
What do you think we can expect from Damian Lillard
after this long absence?
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Well, I can tell you one thing you can expect.
You can expect the minutes restriction, that's for sure, because
I can't think of the time where a player's returned
back from injury and hasn't had some symbolis of a
minus restriction where you just when the guy's out five weeks,
you don't just unleash him in the playoffs like, you
know what, go play forty minutes, you know. So I'm
sure is his minutes restriction to be about twenty eight
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to twenty nine minutes are under But what Damian Lillard
brings just a threat sometimes, and this is what I
wish star players understood. Sometimes you don't have to be
at one hundred percent to make an impact because you
know what Damian Lillard gives Yiannis that nobody else on
that team can. It's space.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Space.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Yeah, so just a mere presence of him being on
that floor will give Giannis, make Giannis's game a little
more stress free. And again I get it. You know
he hasn't played in five weeks. Can we say all
the time, when a guy returns from a lengthy absence,
he's either going to be really good or really bad.
There's usually no great area. So I think how Dan
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Luller plays tonight with it, with his minutes restrictions may
be the difference between Milwaukee walking out victorious in Game
two or not.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
That's a great point.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Tell man, I can listen to talk, I can talk
hoop with you all day, but I got it. I
gotta get an update, and we got to get your break.
I know you do a ton of work it on
serious s exam. We appreciate you spend some time with us.
Let's talk next week. Thanks for our guest.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
For sure, I appreciate you. Brother.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Oh Way, listen my guy, Antonio Daniels. He played thirteen
years in the league. He won an NBA Championship with
the Spurs in ninety nine, and of course he's a
color analyst for the Pals.
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get to Isaac Low and Cron with the press.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
The press, okay, Doug Today. Dallas Cowboys owner and general
manager Jerry Jones, let men go. I'm yes him, said
after the team's pre draft news conference if the Cowboys
are working on quote pretty substantive trades unquote, although Jones
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did not offer any specifics other than saying they are
taking calls with teams.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I mean, there's only like two or three guys that
you really want off of the Cowboys. They're not trading
Dak Prescott. Ken't so Micah Parsons like that's that's incredibly substantive.
I don't think he's pretty substantive, but I also don't
think they'll trade him.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
Settled in just a little bit, and.
Speaker 8 (31:46):
I just realized the general managers of the two most
prominent sports teams in Dallas right now, Jerry Jones and
Nico Harrison, feel bad for certain fans and said he's
all right on to hey.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
I Low put me out.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yeah, Dallas Mavericks. What round did they lose in the last.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Night last year?
Speaker 8 (32:10):
That would be last year as opposed to this year
when they all right a point point taken point taken.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
No, it's the only point that needs to be made.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
It's like like last year, he traded, he drafted Lively,
he traded for PJ. Washington, he traded for Gafford. The
Kyrie Irving trade, everybody said it was a bad trade.
Was it a bad trade the end? No, So again
I would say that I wasn't gonna, I wouldn't have
traded Luca, but the immediate returns are not necessarily returns.
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And I don't know anybody could have said, hey, Kyrie's
gonna tear his ACL there. So yeah, I don't feel
bad for Mavericks fans. They got to go to the
NBA Finals last year.
Speaker 8 (32:51):
Fair point, fair point. I'm just going by the Luca trade,
and the Luca trade was handled from a public stamp.
The NBA today fined Minnesota timberlves guard Anthony Edwards doug
fifty thousand dollars for quote, directing inappropriate language and making
an obscene gesture toward a fan unquote definitely did yeah.
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During Saturday's victory over the Lakers in Game one of
the playoffs, Edwards was disciplined when he was caught on
video claiming that he had a better and a bigger
Devincenzo whoa and then making a commensurate gesture.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Well, I like the first part that he's somebody's heckling
Rudy Gobert. He's like, he's got two hundred million, but uh,
the other part was obviously a bridge too far.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Fifty thousand dollars is pretty steep. I don't care how
much money you make.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Somebody's like, hey, you got to write fifty thousand dollars
check to a charity.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
Like rahaps he could ask mister Gobert for a loan. Meanwhile,
in the world of college football, the game times for
the next season's College Football Playoff were announced today, and
you know that's over eight months away. But what's notable is,
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as long as like I can remember, the Rose Bowl
has always started at five pm Eastern two pm Pacific,
and one of the things about the Rose Bowl the
iconic southern California sunset on the San Gabriel Mountains. Well,
this year's Rose Bowl has been moved one hour earlier,
will now kick off at four pm Eastern time one
(34:25):
pm Pacific, So we might miss out on that iconic
sunset visual of the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
That sucks, I know, that secks.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
But as we told you, the Rose Bull died when
so in the Pac ten went away.
Speaker 8 (34:39):
I know, I know, it's just kind of hard to
get used to. Speaking of hard to get used to.
This is actually a sad story that just came down
moments ago. I'm not sure if you crossed paths with
this person or worked with them earlier in your career.
But Mike Patrick the longtime voice of Sunday Night Football
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back in the late eighties and the nineties, and also
a longtime voice of college basketball for ESPN and college
football for ESPN. He has passed away at the age
of eighty. Died on Sunday of natural causes. He was
the announcer for Sunday Night Football for eighteen seasons and
(35:22):
as I said, also longtime college basketball and college football announcer.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
I didn't work with him. How about this one.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Mike Patrick was the play by play announcer for my
dad's teams at Jacksonville.
Speaker 8 (35:33):
No kidding, small world, Wow, I seem to recall him, man, Yeah,
I seem to recall him also announcing games on a
package called Raycom, which was like a big syndicated college
basketball package back in the day. So that news actually
(35:53):
just came down. And one other thing that we mentioned
on our last report that I wanted to obviously give
you a chance to comment on our item here the
Boston Celtics officially listing Jason Tatum now as doubtful for
Game two of the playoffs tomorrow against the Orlando Magic
because of his right wrist injury.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
That's huge.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I mean, look, Peyton Bridgard has been amazing this year,
and obviously you got Jaylen Brown, but that team's ability
to compete and win championships is largely based upon Jason
Tatum is a top five player in the NBA, so
we'll see. Doubtful doesn't mean out, but it is his
shooting risk and that could.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Be a problematic.
Speaker 8 (36:29):
And that concludes this edition of the Press by get
out there and pressed.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
That was the.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Press Stuck got Leeb show here on Fox Sports Radio.
If you haven't downloaded the podcast, please do so. After
the show you'll love it. We got about thirty minutes
of Frank Cally and today got an extended interview with
Tom Telesco as well tomorrow. It really starts to crank
up here right draft his Thursday Tomorrow night, Dear Heart,
(36:59):
just it them after item, thing after thing, going on concerts, shows,
et cetera. As for us, we actually have a fundraiser,
Dan Patrick's helping us do a prep for the draft.
He and Frank Tom Telesco some other former NFL players
as well. Gonna stop by and we'll just gibbets if
(37:20):
you will. You like that kibbots about the draft. As
for the NBA, was surprised by the Knicks loss, not
surprised by the Clippers and their win tonight. You got
two games Oklahoma City or three game excuse me, Oklahoma City.
They were merciless, merciless against Memphis in Game one. Indie
(37:42):
Milwaukee's interesting because you have Damian Lillard back, but who
knows about minister restrictions. Then the nightcap Lakers Timberwolves. Lakers
are a five and a half point favorite. I still
think I'd take the Timberwolves. I know series changed from
one game to the next, but that one feels like
a bad batchup for the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
It just does. I would go.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Bucks, I would go timber Wolves as two underdogs, and
then I would probably go Oklahoma City. All right, back
tomorrow from the draft in Green Bay. This is Doug
Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio,
Host
Doug Gottlieb
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