December 2, 2024 • 37 mins
In this week's edition of "Love AND Hate", Dan, Monse and the crew shared what they loved most and hated most from the sports weekend. Dan and Monse talk about the rash of flag planting that was taking place around college football this weekend. Plus, Isaac Lowenkrong takes the two through today's version of "The Press".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Happy Monday to you, Door number two open on the
Advent Calendar.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Week thirteen.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Reps up tonight with Broncos and Brown's and Monsey is getting.
You're getting a crash course in the history lesson of
this franchise, not only barefoot kickers. We're going over the
catch or excuse me, the fumble. We're going over the drive.
The next course of action will be early eighties football,
which will be the catch and other stuff in the
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National Football League.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Yeah, you gave me quick quizzes, and my answers were
more current.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Please in the NFL. And you said, do you know
the catch? I said, Megatron, No, that's not it. But
I thought that was a good guy.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
It was a very good and it changed the NFL.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
And you're talking about the catch that wasn't a catch
in the end zone.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Yes, crazy one, the one that you have in your
mind forever. That's still image forever.
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Speaker 2 (01:20):
I bring this up because I do a fantasy football
podcast with Mike Harmon and it's called I Want Your
Flex and Ian Roddy is a producer and editor here
at Fox Sports Radio. And get ready for this, Ian,
I know it's burned into my brain. Ian was born
on January two, two thousand.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
That's an easy kind of yeah, you remember, yeah, But.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
The two thousand part was the part that just really
messed with me. That's correct now, like in seeing athletes
at play in college and their date of birth. So
Ian's twenty four years old, going to be twenty five
here a little bit. And so when I was talking
with Ian about moments in sports, I asked him about
these eighties memories of the catch and the drive and whatnot,
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and he wasn't familiar with them. And I think in
baseball we have some of those, like highlights that are
but I don't think it's important nowadays of knowing what
happened previously in sports. So I was asking him about
the drive, I was asking him about the catch, and
I was asking him about the fumble to see if
those resonated at all. And I think it's a generation
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thing because he had no clue what I was talking
about zero and so I just I was like, wow, like,
these are the things that I grew up with and
remembered because they happened. But I think that there's generations
now that I have no idea. And I think tonight
you'll probably see it on the Browns Broncos broadcast. They'll
go back to eighty six, they'll go back to eighty seven.
But there are generations that have no idea what a
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Broncos Browns rivalry is all about.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I bet you the ones that are fans of those
teams in those and that division, they'd probably do know.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yes, probably, yeah, probably, but fair enough. All right, it
was a weekend. It was it will end with that
Monday night football game tonight, a weekend quite frankly that
I am glad is almost over.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Let's get to some love and hate.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
What did you love?
Speaker 8 (03:14):
God?
Speaker 7 (03:15):
I love you?
Speaker 5 (03:16):
And what did you hate these player Hays.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Jason Stewart is our executive producer, Ryan Smith's our technical producer,
and Isaac Low and Crown's at the news desk. They
I'll join Mancia and myself in a bit of love
and a bit of hate of what we loved and
hated from the weekend. Jason Stewart, this has been your
brain child. The Flora is yours.
Speaker 9 (03:37):
Thank you, Dan. I'll take it from here. So I
really like the Chargers. I love the Chargers, and I
love that they want again. I know Kirk Cousins had
a lot to do with it, but don't don't take
away from the Chargers game plan. I think Kirk Cousin
kind of has these laying egg games, but I think
the Chargers defense had a lot to do with the
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mistakes he made. Do you know the player that I
really like on the Chargers. Nobody had a great Fantasy
Day on the Chargers except for this guy, Ladd McConkie.
He's fun to watch. He takes some licks and he
keeps going Chargers and in more specific, Lad McConkie, my
love for the day.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
The Falcons have some issues and Kirk Cousins is a
big one the four interceptions, but it was interception number
three that was the back break. And I don't know
if you had deja vu, Jason and watching this, but
when the Falcons decided to go for it on fourth
down again, they're down four. It's nine minutes to go.
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They did this against the Chiefs, they messed around, they
found out it backfired against them. They converted this time,
but it's still backfired because that's when Kirk Cousins threw
his third interception into the end zone. It's okay to
take points. If it's a four point game. He kick
a field goal, then guess what, you get the ball
back in Another field goal wins it for you. You
shouldn't be adverse to it. Then you're not down four.
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He can play smart football. I felt to your point,
maybe that's a game the Chargers lose in the past, Jason.
Great win for them to go to eight and four,
but the Falcons have some issues. Yeah, all right, Matzi,
what did you love from the weekend?
Speaker 5 (05:13):
You know, I could have mentioned the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I also could mention the Clippers beating the Nuggets yesterday
with the vintage performance from James Harden, but that's not
what I'm gonna mention, I feel that Bryce Young is
everyone's little brother and seeing him succeed, even though they
did not win, but they took Baker Mayfield and the
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Buccaneers to overtime. I am enjoying watching Bryce Young phil
figure it out and be on the sideline with a smile.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Like I just.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I felt so bad for him for so long, and
now he's doing well and I'm so happy for him,
and I feel like he's just all of our little brothers.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
If there's anything that we have learned or need to learn,
is that there is not one correct way to handle
a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
No, and that's a great point.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
And we're finding it out with Bryce Young. I think
Bryce Young was put into to back into the mix
a little sooner than they wanted because of the Andy
Dalton car wreck. But at some point he was gonna play,
and he's played well and almost led him to that
comeback win. We saw the stat yesterday. Did you know
do you know how many comeback wins Bryce Young has
in his career in the NFL four? I think he
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has four total wins in his career. I didn't even
know if that was the case, and he almost had five,
but the Buccaneers spoiled it because they left a little
too much time on the club this but he.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Just looks different. He looks like that dark cloud that
was hanging over him, it's not there.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I give a huge amount of credit to Dave Canalis,
the coach of the Panthers, which is the reason they
brought him in because of what he did with Baker Mayfield,
what he did with Geno Smith and working with those guys,
and now it seems to be working with Bryce Young.
Isaac Lohinkron, what did you love from this past weekend?
Speaker 8 (06:52):
What I loved? I'm gonna have to go with something
else besides the Chargers unfortunately, So I'm gonna actually go
with the Michigan Ohio State game because I don't have
a dog in the fight. But the spectacle of it
all was glorious to behold. The rivalry and the fact
that Ohio State was such a massive favorite in the
game and underscores one of the things we love about sports,
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and that's when you have rivalry games like that, they
take on a different air and the underdog and the
favorite it's a little more balanced out because of the
energy that surrounds a rivalry game. Now back to.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Change my hate isa right about now.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Jeez, how could you like anything about the Saturday Isaac.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
It's the worst thing in the world.
Speaker 8 (07:37):
Yeah, there might have been an ulterior motive, just to
enjoy buyer on that one little twist of the knife.
Back to my shameless regard for the Chargers. What I hated?
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Why are you jumping everything?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
We can jump the line?
Speaker 7 (07:52):
Sorry about that?
Speaker 8 (07:53):
Okay, sorry, I'm not well versed in parliamentary procedure around here.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
After that whole display, maybe we should ban them. Yeah,
you know, let's let's see. I don't know, you're not
gonna bit Ryan Smith.
Speaker 10 (08:06):
Yeah, surprise, surprise.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (08:08):
I don't care about the Chargers. So let's talk about
something important. Yes, planet is Oh, I'm getting to that. Okay,
please allow me the latitude of completion, manzi uh. Let's
talk about Planet Earth's team, the Las Vegas Raiders. Now,
in the beginning, I was very, very very upset that
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they lost and how they lost. But later on that
evening I came home surprise surprise, poured myself a nice
long tall drink adult beverage. I sat down and I
said to myself, you know what, this is a good
thing because that just means that the Raiders, my Raiders
will simply get a better draft pick.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So that's what I loved. Perspective is everything, isn't it?
Like in the heat of the moment, you're like, ah, gosh,
I hate the Chiefs. Chiefs get another great call, and
then you go to Tankathon and you see your team
right at the top of that after order, just a
spot behind Jacksonville for number one overall. Yes, I've been
there as a sports fan. You know what I love
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this weekend? I actually love today that Jason Stewart agreed
with my snow point and Weather on how people in
southern California love snow games because they don't have to
live in the snow. Do you know how much of
a chore it is to prepare for a game like that,
Not that people don't do it, but it is.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
It is.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
It is quite the undertaking of the travel of getting
everything ready. And honestly, there's some parts of the country
that are like, Okay, we haven't gotten snow, so I
don't have everything ready yet. So you got to pull
all that stuff out for a cold weather game and
do the whole deal. And so when I hear people like, oh,
I love that snow game and then you're like, Okay,
I'm going to do yoga outside of the park, it
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just does it hits differently. So I am grateful that
Jason Stewart recognized that there could be a Southern California
bias in the loving snow games because you don't have
to deal with it on a daily basis.
Speaker 9 (09:55):
Good theory.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Oh you know what, I.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Don't like Isaac Lone Crin No, well, I like Isaac
Glow and Cron.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
There was a lot that I hated from the weekend.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
You guys have no idea on how important that Ohio
State game was to Ohio State fans this past weekend.
In fact, I even saw national media members say, didn't
that seem like this wasn't as big of a deal
because Ohio States now and they're in the twelve team
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playoff and that they've got bigger fish to fry. No,
that was the fish to fry on Saturday. That was
the fish to fry. It doesn't ruin your day, doesn't
ruin your weekend, it ruins your entire year. There was
a whole group of players that came back just for
that game, not to win a national championship. That may
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be part of it, and we'll see if Ohio State's
motivated to do so. But the Ohio State lost to
Michigan for the fourth time, different than the three previous
losses because of what Isaac talked about with the point spread,
but it's also how they lost again. The more physical
team was on the Michigan sideline and not on the
Ohio State sideline. It not only ruined my day, my weekend,
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it is ruined my year until they meet again on
November twenty ninth of twenty twenty five. That is the
next meeting. That's what I hated from this past weekend. Man,
it's a three and a half hour root canal for me,
watching that game is no fun. And it was it
was without Novacan this past weekend. The dentist Ryan Day
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just kept on drilling with tooth after tooth, root canal
after root canal to me missfield goal running the was
it was just a mess. I felt pepper sprayed after
the game. To be honest with you, it was awful.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Did Ryan Day ask you what happened after.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Your Oh gosh, don't even get me started and I've
been a Ryan day guy, and I'm still standing by him,
just not as close as I was prior to satur
That's what I hated from this weekend.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Oh it's the worst.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
I can still feel the hate coming off of you.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
It's it's awful. It's there, all right, Manzi.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Well you guys, I love shopping like I love spending money,
and these Cyber Monday deals have sucked.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
These Black Friday deals have sucked. I don't need.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
A lot of reason to spend money, and I found
no reason to spend money. I was very disappointed with
the sales. There was nothing worth it.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
I it would happen. It used to be a time
for everybody to max out their credit cards. Me specifically,
didn't buy anything. You guys still still looking on Cyber
Monday deals. Haven't bought anything?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
What do you buy? Like? TVs used to be the
big thing, like right, like a TV would be discounted.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
But now TVs, I feel like, are the only thing
that have actually not risen in prices much.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Over the years. Right, so that's not even a thing anymore.
Like I don't even think Target opens at midnight.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
I used to go at midnight to Target and act
the fool now, I don't get to act the fool anywhere,
Like I just want a shop and there's no reason
a shot.
Speaker 9 (13:01):
Jason Stewart, that's a tough one to follow because it
is Cyber Monday, so you have a chance to redeem
yourself Cyber Monday. Yeah, we all work in sports. Dan
Byer is excluded from this this little exercise. The four
of us work in sports. I'm going to ask you
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all this, Do you guys know who Isaiah Davis is?
Speaker 3 (13:27):
No? Do you all know who A. J. Barner? AJ Barner?
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Why do I know who Isaiah Davis is? I just
saw that name this weekend?
Speaker 9 (13:37):
Sure because he scored a touchdown yesterday instead of Breecee
Hall in the Jets game against the Seahawks. Breecee Hall,
who's a top ten pick in most fantasy leagues, had
a horrible fantasy game.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Again.
Speaker 9 (13:49):
AJ Barner is the backup tight end for the Seahawks.
They scored on consecutive plays. What I can't stand is
just how random and how much of a crap fantasy
football is and how how mad it makes me when
I sit on my couch on Sundays. It's almost as
if coordinators do not consider fantasy owners when they script
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their plays for scoring touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
You want to know, you want to know how I
know that this is a fact because you know, Fox
did those superhero cartoon drawings of players, so if DK
Metcalf would score, there'd be an ad you know, like
a drawing of DK Metcalf when they I don't think
they do that for every player.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
So when like a J.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Barner scores, they just have to put up AJ Barner
touchdown because they haven't done the graphic for it yet.
It's like, I don't think ABC even has a Washington
Wizard's logo in their computers for for the NBA, because
the Wizards have never played a game meaningful on ABC
in like the last decade, so like they don't have
that in their graphics system. That's to the point. I
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bet you they didn't have one for the Jets. EI
They're like, let's do DeVante Adams, Garret Wilson, and Bresall.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
And call it go. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 9 (15:01):
So frustrating. I hate it.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I love looking at box scores as well. When it's
twenty four to fourteen happens in baseball, you know, the
blue Jays put like eight runs up and you're like, oh,
Vlad Junior must have had a home run and you're
like zero for three. Yeah, and everybody else has got
in on it, all right, Ryan Smith.
Speaker 10 (15:18):
Well, speaking of fantasy football, I lost by three points
and I had Josh Allen going off apparently, but I'm
gonna blame the snow. So I'm gonna go with Dan
Byer on the whole snow. Yeah. So I'm gonna blame
the snow for me losing my fantasy football game. And
that's what I hated this weekend.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
By the way, Josh Allen should start himself in fantasy
football for everybody getting excited about that. What do you
think he's gonna bench himself? Isaac Lowen cron wrap up
our love and hate.
Speaker 8 (15:49):
First of all, I'd like to take this opportunity to
publicly apologize to Dan Byer for needlessly traumatizing him by
referring to Ohio State's law to Michigan.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
I wish sham.
Speaker 8 (16:03):
Ever try.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
And the funny thing is is you think this is
a joke. This is no this is a MONTI came
to me yesterday. I was like, boy, you wouldn't have
wanted to hear Fox Sports Radio on Saturday. It was
a Michigan love fest up and down the dial. Oh
you're right, I'm probably not gonna go check out the podcast,
which you can at Fox Sportsradio dot com.
Speaker 8 (16:24):
The actual thing I did hate was actually what Ryan said,
but for different reasons, the ending of the Raiders Chiefs
game and the Raiders deciding to run another play on
third and three from the chief thirty two with fifteen
seconds left instead of kicking the field goal then and there,
because if they kicked the field goal at that point
and made it, it would be game back on in
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the AFC West, and the Chargers in Chiefs would only
be separated by two games going into their showdown on
Sunday Night Football this week.
Speaker 7 (16:54):
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Speaker 2 (17:05):
Live Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. She's wants too,
So I'm Dan Byer. As you can tell, we're in
the holiday season. Some Christmas tunes being played. We're gonna
speed it up, Ryan Smith at all like these are
all like by the fire.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Have some chestnuts?
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Can we get some like Backstreet Boys or some like
Destiny's Child covers?
Speaker 10 (17:28):
I'm feeling romantical. That's why we're doing with a slow jam.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
I know.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, it's just difficult to now start talking about planning
flags and college football fights after missle To.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
And some snow.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, there is a whole in sync Christmas album as
well that you can.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
So I'm saying, Destiny's Child, We're done in thirty three minutes.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Give you a lot of Gali has some great covers.
Speaker 10 (17:52):
Okay, Okay, I don't know, we're not doing what we are.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Okay, Hancy.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Is planning her Glee flag and Ryan Smith has taking
that flag and throwing it into the stands a site
that we saw not once, not twice, not three times,
but at least four incidents involving midfield logos and opposing
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teams trying to plant flags, plant pitchforks, do whatever at midfield.
It became an epidemic in college football, and quite frankly,
I know it may seem like some schools are asking
for it. And I'm not saying this as a fan
of the school that lost, because I'm not even referring
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to them. There's a different school that I have in
mind that I'll explain, But to me, it's almost low
hanging fruit mancy that this is the way to do it.
And I feel that flag planting really became a thing
in Columbus, Ohio, but not this past weekend.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I feel like it.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Really like fast tracked to the top of disrespect when
Baker Mayfield and Oklahoma did it to Ohio State in
twenty seventeen, I think that was a flag plant that
was known throughout the world. He wasn't the first to
do it. There have been others that have done it.
In fact, I think Ohio State even the year before
at Oklahoma may have done something that Sooner fans felt
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was disrespectful. But Baker Mayfield I feel as like the
card carrying member of the starting of the flag planting
at midfield, and this past weekend it just got out
of hand. As it happened in Columbus, it happened in
Chapel Hill, it happened in Tallahassee, and it happened in Tucson.
All rivalry games with the road team winning and trying
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to plant some sort of flag or pitchfork at midfield
and none of the losing teams loved it, and then
you had incidents after that.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Yeah, you know, that's not my style. I don't think
I would do that in a rivalry game. That's just
not my style. Now, I agree with you that it's
low hanging through.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
I also think like if you do it, then what
comes next is fair game.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Sure, I don't think.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
You can put your flag in the middle of midfield
and expect them to not get mad and expect there
to not be a reaction.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
If you do that, anything is fair game from that point.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
These rivalry and it's very well put. And I agree
with that because these rivalries are actually supposed to be
rooted in some respect. And I know it sounds silly
and I'm not trying to make this a high road,
but the point is is like Ohio State and Michigan
wouldn't be Ohio State and Michigan without the other m
like like for like for that rivalry to be like
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what it is, you need the other foil there. Like
It's it's not that Michigan needs Ohio State or Ohio
State needs Michigan, but it's this rivalry between the two
that really makes what those two schools are and I
think same thing in basketball when this was NC State
and North Carolina. But you know North Carolina Duke, you
know in their rivalry.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
With what they have.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
But what is so different about college football, and it's
different than college basketball, and it's different than the National
Football League is it's a one time deal and you
play once a year and there is no return trip.
In college basketball, Duke in North Carolina play a home
and home every single year. They play in Durham and
then a month later they'll play in Chapel Hill and
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then they'll enter the conference tournament, and vice versa. In
the NFL, you have rivalries and divisions and guess what
they play twice a year, once in Pittsburgh, once in Baltimore,
once in Chicago, once in Green Bay. Baseball Dodgers, Giants,
Red Sox, Yankees.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
How many times?
Speaker 5 (21:48):
So many times?
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yes, Yes, college.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Football and is different is that it's once a year
and that you're alternating sites and so the stakes are
just that much higher. I think at some point you
have to have respect for the rival. I know that
you feel that these games mean more, but to plant flag,
to me now is such a low hanging fruit sort
of thing. I would try to think of something else
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more creative to do putting the pitchfork. While I love
the sun Devil pitchfork, you're not pointing it through the
a at Arizona. I'm sorry. It's just not cool. Whether
you win nine hundred to nothing like did to this
past weekend, I'm sorry, it's just a bad look. Figure
out a different way to celebrate your victory.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
When is that game next year?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
November twenty ninth, twenty twenty five, to prove.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
The point, Yes, once a year. And that that's why
I'm with you. It's like, I don't think I would
do that.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
And if you do it, then you're opening the door
for anything else, Like I don't think when I heard
a lot of people say like, oh, well, Ohio State
should have played better, and then that wouldn't have happened
and they shouldn't have started the fight.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
No, you do that, you're kind of asking for that.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
And that's why I feel like you just open a
door and everything becomes fair game at that point.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
There it is one hundred percent low hanging fruit. I'm
so absolutely, I'm.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
So glad you said that because I heard and the
low hanging fruit joke is I wish you would have
tried harder during the game than you, you know, as
hard as you did after the game as he did
during the game. You don't you don't think that they tried.
You know, you don't think that those Ohio State players
who could have gone to the NFL but want to
come back and play this game, you don't think that
they tried that game. You don't think Jack Sawyer, who
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gave up on NFL riches and thought he made a
game changing play with an interception to save his team
in his final game at Ohio STADIU don't think he
was trying. Like no, that's every one of both both sidelines.
It's just do it better, man, Like this is you
don't need to be doing that stuff being if you're
gonna do it, be creative. You know, like Florida State
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and Florida had a little brujja as well because Gators
went in Tallahassee. Florida State's thing. You know what they
had They have a sod cemetery where if they go
and they win, they would take a piece of sod
from that field and be like we won on this
field and they would bury it.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, but it's also taking something from the opposing field
and being like, we won. I don't know if it's
great or not, but I'm sure if Florida's like, well,
if there was a piece of the swamp that they
ended up bearing because of a win, I can get
some of that. But think of a different way to
do it. You don't have to do it to the logo.
It's now to me, it's almost played out. But you
know it's going to get riled up. You know you're
going to be in that situation. Unfortunately, people got pepper
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sprayed during the Michigan Ohio state scenario, and I still
don't know why pepper spray was used in that case.
But the point being, there's better ways to handle it.
I just have no idea why. It's the only way
that people think that they can celebrate a win and
that's the way to do it is just completely disrespect
your rival.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Well that's it, Jess, That's all it is. It's they
want to disrespect you.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
They feel that because they've beat you, not only did
they beat you, now they can disrespect you. That's the
entire point of that. But that I agree, think of
something better. Think of something clever, because it is when
you see it four times in one day, which you know.
Our producer Jason asked, it was like he said, it
seemed like they were just all on the same page.
And I feel like it was a little bit of
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mob mentality where it's like the first one did it,
and then the next team was like, we'll do it,
and then the next team was like, well, we might.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
As well do it.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
It just became like a ripple effect once the first
one went down.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Did you have any problems with all of the flag planting,
Jason once it became I guess the only thing that
teams were doing, I.
Speaker 9 (25:23):
Didn't have a problem with it. I just thought it
was odd. It just seemed what sort of coordinated, as
if all of these visiting rival teams were on the
same email and said we're all going to do this
on the same day. This is going to be plant
the flag Saturday. But I think it was just a
coincidence that in each of these important games the road
team won. I thought that was odd. I really did.
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Now I do have a question about the pepper spray,
and maybe Isaac has some news on this they were
going to investigate or why exactly are law enforcement people
in the middle of a football field with pepper spray?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
What what would.
Speaker 9 (26:01):
Be the reason why they would be carrying pepper spray
spray in that moment.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
I'm assuming it's just the quickest what they thought way
to put an end to so many people fighting or
pushing each other because pepper spray travel, Like if you
get secondhand pepper.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Spray, it's pretty bad.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
So I think it was like, you don't even have
to spray it at someone, you just spray it in
the air.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Everybody's going to be affected by it. It's rough.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I would also think that it was it's probably on
their person for reasons of security. Where fans storm the field,
that's probably the place where you would want it, never
thinking that you'd actually have to use it between the
two teams on the field.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
But for s I can't.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Believe that it was used in the first place, So
I would love to know the reason on why it
was actually used. But I would think it would be
more of if Ohio State won and fans rush the
field and then we're trying to do something to the
Michigan players, that that would be a reason to do so.
So Wisconsin and Minnesota played for Paul Bunyan's acts. Do
you guys think it's disrespectful to if you win on
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the road, to take the axe and chop pretend to
chop down the goalpost of the opposing team. Do you
think that that's respectful or disrespectful or do you think
that's creative celebration?
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Say that again.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
So Minnesota and Wisconsin play for a big Paul Bunyan's axe,
a big act. Minnesota won at Wisconsin on Friday, and
so when Minnesota takes the axe, they go, yes, yes,
it's you know, about this long and I'm showing my wingspan, yeah,
you know, six foot acts. So you take it, you
chop it. Do you think that that is a creative
(27:39):
way to celebrate, to pretend to chop down your opponent's
goalpost or would that be disrespectful?
Speaker 5 (27:44):
I don't think that's disrespectful.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I think it's a creative way to show that you
beat your rival. You're it's more creative than that. It's
more creative than the middle of the field. Yeah, and
Wisconsin and Minnesota do that. And guess what. Minnesota did
it on Friday and nobody's sitting here is talking about it. Today, Like,
there's ways to do it. It's part of the rivalry.
The planting of the flag on the logo is something
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that is just Isaac longcron Sorry, sorry, Isaac. You've been
in a hockey locker room before with the logo in
the middle of the locker room.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 8 (28:15):
Yes, you can't step on the logo.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's the deal. That's the deal. You
do not walk across the logo. You walk around it,
you do not walk through it. And that's and I
think that's that's it's kind of the same thing with midfield.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
I don't disagree.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Do you know why Oklahoma made that higher today? They
wanted to do it sooner rather than later. So that's
that's dad joke.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
What are your better ones?
Speaker 7 (28:39):
Guys?
Speaker 8 (28:40):
Just to jump in literally moments ago, NFL media just
tweeted Christian McCaffrey is dealing with a PCL injury. It's
a six week recovery according to coach Kyle Shanahan. So
that's the latest there, just reported by NFL medium.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Are you buying l Shire's apology?
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Buying it in the sense of you feel bad now?
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Sure, but it's just unfortunately not your first offense, and
Trevor la there's so much to this, like it's not unfortunately,
it's not black and white in the sense it was
Trevor Lawrence. Does Trevor Lawrence really do damage with his
legs like that that you were so worried. He also
hasn't been playing because of a bum shoulder, Like there's
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to me that adds to the context of the situation.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
And then his history, Like if you just searches.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Him, you can easily find a video of all the
quote unquote illegal slash, dirty plays that he has done.
And so it's just okay, if maybe you weren't trying
to be malicious, maybe you weren't trying to hurt him,
but this wasn't in your first defense, and it just
seems like maybe you should not play in the league
because you don't know how to control it.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah, he is completely uncontrollable. There are some that were
saying that he was trying to fight other players afterwards
because he was afraid to stay in the game, that
they would that somebody would take a shot at him. Yeah,
because if al vicious, that would be next level thinking
at that part. I actually look at it as like
it actually shows how a lot of control he is,
and so either way is bad. But I just think
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it's completely out of control if you're looking to wrap
someone up. All of the times that we've seen guys
try to do hits off the middle, and think of
when the receiver bounces off and runs for sixty yards
in a touchdown and we say wrap them up, wrap
them up. He wasn't wrapping Trevor Lawrence up. Then that's
what defenders do coming across the middle. They put their
arm up or they lead with their head in that
scenario because they want to lay that leveling shot. That's
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why you have the arm up. If you were really
trying to wrap him up, you would have wrapped him up.
You would have wrapped him up like Cooper dejan did
for the Egos against the Baltimore Ravens and Derek Henry yesterday.
That's how you make a tackle. You don't make a
tackle with your far arm up. It was dirty, it
was awful, and I just went as far as this.
I know that we've seen stuff in the NFL. Nobody
wants to see Trevor Lawrence lying on the ground like that,
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absolutely no one, And it it's those sort of hits
that make people be like, you know, I don't want
to watch football, I don't want to play football. Knocking
someone out like that. We can all take and appreciate
hard hits. Dirty junk like that is no place for
itself in the National Football League, in college football at
any level.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
And again, with the history, it's hard to defend it.
And that's really what it is.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
And it's if you're thinking that you're going to need
to go out there and fight because nobody's going to
have your back, then you knew you did something wrong.
And also, like, why would you put your own quarterback
in a position where he could take a hit out
of revenge?
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Like why it just seems so irresponsible from every angle
of it.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
And if you.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Truly did not mean malicious intent, unfortunately you have proven
multiple times that you cannot control yourself and maybe it's
time that you no longer play football.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
That's why we're just talking about hockey. It's why you
get fights in hockey. It's why you have goons in hockey,
because if somebody's going to do that to your star player,
then you're going to have somebody your team, your guys
going to do that to their star player. You fight
it out, you get the aggression out. There's there's there's
no place in the NFL for something like this. Absolutely not.
She's Moncey Belaanhos, I'm Dan Bayer sitting in for Doug
(32:11):
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Speaker 4 (32:35):
Also Jordan Mason going on IR for the forty nine ers.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
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Speaker 7 (32:40):
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Speaker 2 (32:52):
It is Moncey Belanos, I'm Dan Bayer. It is DMX
on Fox Sports Radio. We are in for Gottlieb. I
love it, R, I p R. Jason Stewart's been hanging
out today. Appreciate all of Jason's contributions. Ryan Smith is
well our technical producer, and Isaac Longcron hanging out as well.
(33:12):
And he's got with us the press. He does maybe
he does, he does, he does. Ryan Smith was so
proud that he found a d MX Christmas song. Now
now it's no, it's not game time. It's the press.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
The press, the press.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Tell you what, Just play any music pad?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Sorry, it's that was the That was the the radio
version of how the Raiders handled that last possession against
the Chiefs right, just completely like false start, early snap movement.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
I forgot about the press. It's all.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
It's all good. Still Monday, Isaac, What do you got
in the latest on the forty nine Ers? Just for
those that are tuning in.
Speaker 8 (34:06):
Speaking of having a case of the Monday's forty nine
Ers head coach Kyle Shanahan announcing just moments ago running
back Christian McCaffrey will be out at least six weeks
because of a PCL injury to his knee. He will
not need surgery, but he is of course headed to
injured reserve. He also announced that forty nine Ers running
back Jordan Mason also headed to injured reserve because of
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a high ankle sprain.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
It's done, it's over.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Wrap it up.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
This season is.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Done, and they're gonna have to start anew like they haven't.
They haven't gone down down yet. There's still a lower
depth to this. They got to figure out what they're
gonna do with Brock Perdy this offseason, which is likely
pay him, but you're gonna have to retool everything around
him because all of these pieces you can no longer
count on. You can't count on a future with Christian
McCaffrey anymore. Sorry, you can't. You're gonna have Brandon a
(34:55):
you coming off of an ACL injury next season. I
don't know how long people Samuel was for San Francisco anyway,
there's just Trent Williams isn't gonna play forever.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
It's it's not the rebus.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Let Trent Williams sit out the rest of the season
with that broken ankle, like just he doesn't need to
play his tenth consecutive game with broken ankle.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Well, not with the broken angle, but the season suffering
that they.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Would benefit more for tanking than they would to try
to compete for a division title. They aren't going anywhere again,
They're not competing with the Eagles. You watch the Eagles yesterday.
The Eagles would would take care of the forty nine
ers with the East YEP. Right now, with the shape
that they're in, there's no point in trying to make
a push. They'd be better to just pack it up
and try to move up the draft board as much as.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
He can, especially because they're still so banged up.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Just yeah, yeah, they're old too, Yeah they got older players.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (35:45):
Today's Chicago Bears President Kevin Warren confirmed that Ryan Poles
will remain the Bears general manager and that Poles will
be the one hiring the bears next head coach.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I like how Kevin Warren says that, because everybody thinks
Kevin Warren's going to be the one making the decision.
Kevin Warren also said it's the most desirable job in
the NFL. Okay, right now, there are three of them,
the Jets. Nobody wants that mass unless you like New
York and the Saints right now, and I'm sorry, no quarterback,
(36:18):
at least in Chicago, you have a quarterback. So to
that point, he's true, But the most desirable job will
probably go to a place where you can get paid
very well. And I don't know if Chicago is going
to pay very well for the next head coach. They should,
but if they cheap out, the Bears are going to
be where they've always been.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
And I feel like you have to kind of keep
some sort of consistency right to make people feel better. So, yeah,
we're going to keep this guy that's trying to build
from what we already have.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
I mean, it makes sense, but they should have just
cut Bait last year.
Speaker 8 (36:50):
Final item on this edition of the Press comes from
college basketball two time defending national champion Yukon and the
latest AP ranking dropped from number two to number twenty
five today after their nightmare trip to Hawaii last week
when they went oh and three at the Maui Invitational.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
At least they're still ranked. At least they're still.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Only twenty five. Is yeah, twenty five is something Danny
Hurley saying, no more uh, no more multi team events
for his squad. He has done doing that only home
and homes and one offs like at Madison Square Garden
or in Las Vegas he has done with the multi
team events MTS as they call him in college.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
So you're saying your team is weak and can't handle it.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
No, I just think Danny Hurley knows he's got some
clouts and wanted to pounce.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
And that's the press, all right, Yeah, they're in pressed.
That was Broacos tonight Manzi.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Happy Monday to you, Door number two open on the
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Speaker 3 (00:23):
Week thirteen.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Reps up tonight with Broncos and Brown's and Monsey is getting.
You're getting a crash course in the history lesson of
this franchise, not only barefoot kickers. We're going over the
catch or excuse me, the fumble. We're going over the drive.
The next course of action will be early eighties football,
which will be the catch and other stuff in the
(00:45):
National Football League.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Yeah, you gave me quick quizzes, and my answers were
more current.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Please in the NFL. And you said, do you know
the catch? I said, Megatron, No, that's not it. But
I thought that was a good guy.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
It was a very good and it changed the NFL.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
And you're talking about the catch that wasn't a catch
in the end zone.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Yes, crazy one, the one that you have in your
mind forever. That's still image forever.
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Speaker 2 (01:20):
I bring this up because I do a fantasy football
podcast with Mike Harmon and it's called I Want Your
Flex and Ian Roddy is a producer and editor here
at Fox Sports Radio. And get ready for this, Ian,
I know it's burned into my brain. Ian was born
on January two, two thousand.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
That's an easy kind of yeah, you remember, yeah, But.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
The two thousand part was the part that just really
messed with me. That's correct now, like in seeing athletes
at play in college and their date of birth. So
Ian's twenty four years old, going to be twenty five
here a little bit. And so when I was talking
with Ian about moments in sports, I asked him about
these eighties memories of the catch and the drive and whatnot,
(02:09):
and he wasn't familiar with them. And I think in
baseball we have some of those, like highlights that are
but I don't think it's important nowadays of knowing what
happened previously in sports. So I was asking him about
the drive, I was asking him about the catch, and
I was asking him about the fumble to see if
those resonated at all. And I think it's a generation
(02:31):
thing because he had no clue what I was talking
about zero and so I just I was like, wow, like,
these are the things that I grew up with and
remembered because they happened. But I think that there's generations
now that I have no idea. And I think tonight
you'll probably see it on the Browns Broncos broadcast. They'll
go back to eighty six, they'll go back to eighty seven.
But there are generations that have no idea what a
(02:52):
Broncos Browns rivalry is all about.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I bet you the ones that are fans of those
teams in those and that division, they'd probably do know.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yes, probably, yeah, probably, but fair enough. All right, it
was a weekend. It was it will end with that
Monday night football game tonight, a weekend quite frankly that
I am glad is almost over.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Let's get to some love and hate.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
What did you love?
Speaker 8 (03:14):
God?
Speaker 7 (03:15):
I love you?
Speaker 5 (03:16):
And what did you hate these player Hays.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Jason Stewart is our executive producer, Ryan Smith's our technical producer,
and Isaac Low and Crown's at the news desk. They
I'll join Mancia and myself in a bit of love
and a bit of hate of what we loved and
hated from the weekend. Jason Stewart, this has been your
brain child. The Flora is yours.
Speaker 9 (03:37):
Thank you, Dan. I'll take it from here. So I
really like the Chargers. I love the Chargers, and I
love that they want again. I know Kirk Cousins had
a lot to do with it, but don't don't take
away from the Chargers game plan. I think Kirk Cousin
kind of has these laying egg games, but I think
the Chargers defense had a lot to do with the
(03:58):
mistakes he made. Do you know the player that I
really like on the Chargers. Nobody had a great Fantasy
Day on the Chargers except for this guy, Ladd McConkie.
He's fun to watch. He takes some licks and he
keeps going Chargers and in more specific, Lad McConkie, my
love for the day.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
The Falcons have some issues and Kirk Cousins is a
big one the four interceptions, but it was interception number
three that was the back break. And I don't know
if you had deja vu, Jason and watching this, but
when the Falcons decided to go for it on fourth
down again, they're down four. It's nine minutes to go.
(04:39):
They did this against the Chiefs, they messed around, they
found out it backfired against them. They converted this time,
but it's still backfired because that's when Kirk Cousins threw
his third interception into the end zone. It's okay to
take points. If it's a four point game. He kick
a field goal, then guess what, you get the ball
back in Another field goal wins it for you. You
shouldn't be adverse to it. Then you're not down four.
(05:00):
He can play smart football. I felt to your point,
maybe that's a game the Chargers lose in the past, Jason.
Great win for them to go to eight and four,
but the Falcons have some issues. Yeah, all right, Matzi,
what did you love from the weekend?
Speaker 5 (05:13):
You know, I could have mentioned the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I also could mention the Clippers beating the Nuggets yesterday
with the vintage performance from James Harden, but that's not
what I'm gonna mention, I feel that Bryce Young is
everyone's little brother and seeing him succeed, even though they
did not win, but they took Baker Mayfield and the
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Buccaneers to overtime. I am enjoying watching Bryce Young phil
figure it out and be on the sideline with a smile.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Like I just.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I felt so bad for him for so long, and
now he's doing well and I'm so happy for him,
and I feel like he's just all of our little brothers.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
If there's anything that we have learned or need to learn,
is that there is not one correct way to handle
a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
No, and that's a great point.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
And we're finding it out with Bryce Young. I think
Bryce Young was put into to back into the mix
a little sooner than they wanted because of the Andy
Dalton car wreck. But at some point he was gonna play,
and he's played well and almost led him to that
comeback win. We saw the stat yesterday. Did you know
do you know how many comeback wins Bryce Young has
in his career in the NFL four? I think he
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has four total wins in his career. I didn't even
know if that was the case, and he almost had five,
but the Buccaneers spoiled it because they left a little
too much time on the club this but he.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Just looks different. He looks like that dark cloud that
was hanging over him, it's not there.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I give a huge amount of credit to Dave Canalis,
the coach of the Panthers, which is the reason they
brought him in because of what he did with Baker Mayfield,
what he did with Geno Smith and working with those guys,
and now it seems to be working with Bryce Young.
Isaac Lohinkron, what did you love from this past weekend?
Speaker 8 (06:52):
What I loved? I'm gonna have to go with something
else besides the Chargers unfortunately, So I'm gonna actually go
with the Michigan Ohio State game because I don't have
a dog in the fight. But the spectacle of it
all was glorious to behold. The rivalry and the fact
that Ohio State was such a massive favorite in the
game and underscores one of the things we love about sports,
(07:15):
and that's when you have rivalry games like that, they
take on a different air and the underdog and the
favorite it's a little more balanced out because of the
energy that surrounds a rivalry game. Now back to.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Change my hate isa right about now.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Jeez, how could you like anything about the Saturday Isaac.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
It's the worst thing in the world.
Speaker 8 (07:37):
Yeah, there might have been an ulterior motive, just to
enjoy buyer on that one little twist of the knife.
Back to my shameless regard for the Chargers. What I hated?
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Why are you jumping everything?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
We can jump the line?
Speaker 7 (07:52):
Sorry about that?
Speaker 8 (07:53):
Okay, sorry, I'm not well versed in parliamentary procedure around here.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
After that whole display, maybe we should ban them. Yeah,
you know, let's let's see. I don't know, you're not
gonna bit Ryan Smith.
Speaker 10 (08:06):
Yeah, surprise, surprise.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (08:08):
I don't care about the Chargers. So let's talk about
something important. Yes, planet is Oh, I'm getting to that. Okay,
please allow me the latitude of completion, manzi uh. Let's
talk about Planet Earth's team, the Las Vegas Raiders. Now,
in the beginning, I was very, very very upset that
(08:28):
they lost and how they lost. But later on that
evening I came home surprise surprise, poured myself a nice
long tall drink adult beverage. I sat down and I
said to myself, you know what, this is a good
thing because that just means that the Raiders, my Raiders
will simply get a better draft pick.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So that's what I loved. Perspective is everything, isn't it?
Like in the heat of the moment, you're like, ah, gosh,
I hate the Chiefs. Chiefs get another great call, and
then you go to Tankathon and you see your team
right at the top of that after order, just a
spot behind Jacksonville for number one overall. Yes, I've been
there as a sports fan. You know what I love
(09:08):
this weekend? I actually love today that Jason Stewart agreed
with my snow point and Weather on how people in
southern California love snow games because they don't have to
live in the snow. Do you know how much of
a chore it is to prepare for a game like that,
Not that people don't do it, but it is.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
It is.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
It is quite the undertaking of the travel of getting
everything ready. And honestly, there's some parts of the country
that are like, Okay, we haven't gotten snow, so I
don't have everything ready yet. So you got to pull
all that stuff out for a cold weather game and
do the whole deal. And so when I hear people like, oh,
I love that snow game and then you're like, Okay,
I'm going to do yoga outside of the park, it
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just does it hits differently. So I am grateful that
Jason Stewart recognized that there could be a Southern California
bias in the loving snow games because you don't have
to deal with it on a daily basis.
Speaker 9 (09:55):
Good theory.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Oh you know what, I.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Don't like Isaac Lone Crin No, well, I like Isaac
Glow and Cron.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
There was a lot that I hated from the weekend.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
You guys have no idea on how important that Ohio
State game was to Ohio State fans this past weekend.
In fact, I even saw national media members say, didn't
that seem like this wasn't as big of a deal
because Ohio States now and they're in the twelve team
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playoff and that they've got bigger fish to fry. No,
that was the fish to fry on Saturday. That was
the fish to fry. It doesn't ruin your day, doesn't
ruin your weekend, it ruins your entire year. There was
a whole group of players that came back just for
that game, not to win a national championship. That may
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be part of it, and we'll see if Ohio State's
motivated to do so. But the Ohio State lost to
Michigan for the fourth time, different than the three previous
losses because of what Isaac talked about with the point spread,
but it's also how they lost again. The more physical
team was on the Michigan sideline and not on the
Ohio State sideline. It not only ruined my day, my weekend,
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it is ruined my year until they meet again on
November twenty ninth of twenty twenty five. That is the
next meeting. That's what I hated from this past weekend. Man,
it's a three and a half hour root canal for me,
watching that game is no fun. And it was it
was without Novacan this past weekend. The dentist Ryan Day
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just kept on drilling with tooth after tooth, root canal
after root canal to me missfield goal running the was
it was just a mess. I felt pepper sprayed after
the game. To be honest with you, it was awful.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Did Ryan Day ask you what happened after.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Your Oh gosh, don't even get me started and I've
been a Ryan day guy, and I'm still standing by him,
just not as close as I was prior to satur
That's what I hated from this weekend.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Oh it's the worst.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
I can still feel the hate coming off of you.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
It's it's awful. It's there, all right, Manzi.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Well you guys, I love shopping like I love spending money,
and these Cyber Monday deals have sucked.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
These Black Friday deals have sucked. I don't need.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
A lot of reason to spend money, and I found
no reason to spend money. I was very disappointed with
the sales. There was nothing worth it.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
I it would happen. It used to be a time
for everybody to max out their credit cards. Me specifically,
didn't buy anything. You guys still still looking on Cyber
Monday deals. Haven't bought anything?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
What do you buy? Like? TVs used to be the
big thing, like right, like a TV would be discounted.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
But now TVs, I feel like, are the only thing
that have actually not risen in prices much.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Over the years. Right, so that's not even a thing anymore.
Like I don't even think Target opens at midnight.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
I used to go at midnight to Target and act
the fool now, I don't get to act the fool anywhere,
Like I just want a shop and there's no reason
a shot.
Speaker 9 (13:01):
Jason Stewart, that's a tough one to follow because it
is Cyber Monday, so you have a chance to redeem
yourself Cyber Monday. Yeah, we all work in sports. Dan
Byer is excluded from this this little exercise. The four
of us work in sports. I'm going to ask you
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all this, Do you guys know who Isaiah Davis is?
Speaker 3 (13:27):
No? Do you all know who A. J. Barner? AJ Barner?
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Why do I know who Isaiah Davis is? I just
saw that name this weekend?
Speaker 9 (13:37):
Sure because he scored a touchdown yesterday instead of Breecee
Hall in the Jets game against the Seahawks. Breecee Hall,
who's a top ten pick in most fantasy leagues, had
a horrible fantasy game.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Again.
Speaker 9 (13:49):
AJ Barner is the backup tight end for the Seahawks.
They scored on consecutive plays. What I can't stand is
just how random and how much of a crap fantasy
football is and how how mad it makes me when
I sit on my couch on Sundays. It's almost as
if coordinators do not consider fantasy owners when they script
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their plays for scoring touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
You want to know, you want to know how I
know that this is a fact because you know, Fox
did those superhero cartoon drawings of players, so if DK
Metcalf would score, there'd be an ad you know, like
a drawing of DK Metcalf when they I don't think
they do that for every player.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
So when like a J.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Barner scores, they just have to put up AJ Barner
touchdown because they haven't done the graphic for it yet.
It's like, I don't think ABC even has a Washington
Wizard's logo in their computers for for the NBA, because
the Wizards have never played a game meaningful on ABC
in like the last decade, so like they don't have
that in their graphics system. That's to the point. I
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bet you they didn't have one for the Jets. EI
They're like, let's do DeVante Adams, Garret Wilson, and Bresall.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
And call it go. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 9 (15:01):
So frustrating. I hate it.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I love looking at box scores as well. When it's
twenty four to fourteen happens in baseball, you know, the
blue Jays put like eight runs up and you're like, oh,
Vlad Junior must have had a home run and you're
like zero for three. Yeah, and everybody else has got
in on it, all right, Ryan Smith.
Speaker 10 (15:18):
Well, speaking of fantasy football, I lost by three points
and I had Josh Allen going off apparently, but I'm
gonna blame the snow. So I'm gonna go with Dan
Byer on the whole snow. Yeah. So I'm gonna blame
the snow for me losing my fantasy football game. And
that's what I hated this weekend.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
By the way, Josh Allen should start himself in fantasy
football for everybody getting excited about that. What do you
think he's gonna bench himself? Isaac Lowen cron wrap up
our love and hate.
Speaker 8 (15:49):
First of all, I'd like to take this opportunity to
publicly apologize to Dan Byer for needlessly traumatizing him by
referring to Ohio State's law to Michigan.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
I wish sham.
Speaker 8 (16:03):
Ever try.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
And the funny thing is is you think this is
a joke. This is no this is a MONTI came
to me yesterday. I was like, boy, you wouldn't have
wanted to hear Fox Sports Radio on Saturday. It was
a Michigan love fest up and down the dial. Oh
you're right, I'm probably not gonna go check out the podcast,
which you can at Fox Sportsradio dot com.
Speaker 8 (16:24):
The actual thing I did hate was actually what Ryan said,
but for different reasons, the ending of the Raiders Chiefs
game and the Raiders deciding to run another play on
third and three from the chief thirty two with fifteen
seconds left instead of kicking the field goal then and there,
because if they kicked the field goal at that point
and made it, it would be game back on in
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the AFC West, and the Chargers in Chiefs would only
be separated by two games going into their showdown on
Sunday Night Football this week.
Speaker 7 (16:54):
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Speaker 2 (17:05):
Live Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. She's wants too,
So I'm Dan Byer. As you can tell, we're in
the holiday season. Some Christmas tunes being played. We're gonna
speed it up, Ryan Smith at all like these are
all like by the fire.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Have some chestnuts?
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Can we get some like Backstreet Boys or some like
Destiny's Child covers?
Speaker 10 (17:28):
I'm feeling romantical. That's why we're doing with a slow jam.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
I know.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, it's just difficult to now start talking about planning
flags and college football fights after missle To.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
And some snow.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, there is a whole in sync Christmas album as
well that you can.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
So I'm saying, Destiny's Child, We're done in thirty three minutes.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Give you a lot of Gali has some great covers.
Speaker 10 (17:52):
Okay, Okay, I don't know, we're not doing what we are.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Okay, Hancy.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Is planning her Glee flag and Ryan Smith has taking
that flag and throwing it into the stands a site
that we saw not once, not twice, not three times,
but at least four incidents involving midfield logos and opposing
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teams trying to plant flags, plant pitchforks, do whatever at midfield.
It became an epidemic in college football, and quite frankly,
I know it may seem like some schools are asking
for it. And I'm not saying this as a fan
of the school that lost, because I'm not even referring
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to them. There's a different school that I have in
mind that I'll explain, But to me, it's almost low
hanging fruit mancy that this is the way to do it.
And I feel that flag planting really became a thing
in Columbus, Ohio, but not this past weekend.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I feel like it.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Really like fast tracked to the top of disrespect when
Baker Mayfield and Oklahoma did it to Ohio State in
twenty seventeen, I think that was a flag plant that
was known throughout the world. He wasn't the first to
do it. There have been others that have done it.
In fact, I think Ohio State even the year before
at Oklahoma may have done something that Sooner fans felt
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was disrespectful. But Baker Mayfield I feel as like the
card carrying member of the starting of the flag planting
at midfield, and this past weekend it just got out
of hand. As it happened in Columbus, it happened in
Chapel Hill, it happened in Tallahassee, and it happened in Tucson.
All rivalry games with the road team winning and trying
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to plant some sort of flag or pitchfork at midfield
and none of the losing teams loved it, and then
you had incidents after that.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Yeah, you know, that's not my style. I don't think
I would do that in a rivalry game. That's just
not my style. Now, I agree with you that it's
low hanging through.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
I also think like if you do it, then what
comes next is fair game.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Sure, I don't think.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
You can put your flag in the middle of midfield
and expect them to not get mad and expect there
to not be a reaction.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
If you do that, anything is fair game from that point.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
These rivalry and it's very well put. And I agree
with that because these rivalries are actually supposed to be
rooted in some respect. And I know it sounds silly
and I'm not trying to make this a high road,
but the point is is like Ohio State and Michigan
wouldn't be Ohio State and Michigan without the other m
like like for like for that rivalry to be like
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what it is, you need the other foil there. Like
It's it's not that Michigan needs Ohio State or Ohio
State needs Michigan, but it's this rivalry between the two
that really makes what those two schools are and I
think same thing in basketball when this was NC State
and North Carolina. But you know North Carolina Duke, you
know in their rivalry.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
With what they have.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
But what is so different about college football, and it's
different than college basketball, and it's different than the National
Football League is it's a one time deal and you
play once a year and there is no return trip.
In college basketball, Duke in North Carolina play a home
and home every single year. They play in Durham and
then a month later they'll play in Chapel Hill and
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then they'll enter the conference tournament, and vice versa. In
the NFL, you have rivalries and divisions and guess what
they play twice a year, once in Pittsburgh, once in Baltimore,
once in Chicago, once in Green Bay. Baseball Dodgers, Giants,
Red Sox, Yankees.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
How many times?
Speaker 5 (21:48):
So many times?
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yes, Yes, college.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Football and is different is that it's once a year
and that you're alternating sites and so the stakes are
just that much higher. I think at some point you
have to have respect for the rival. I know that
you feel that these games mean more, but to plant flag,
to me now is such a low hanging fruit sort
of thing. I would try to think of something else
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more creative to do putting the pitchfork. While I love
the sun Devil pitchfork, you're not pointing it through the
a at Arizona. I'm sorry. It's just not cool. Whether
you win nine hundred to nothing like did to this
past weekend, I'm sorry, it's just a bad look. Figure
out a different way to celebrate your victory.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
When is that game next year?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
November twenty ninth, twenty twenty five, to prove.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
The point, Yes, once a year. And that that's why
I'm with you. It's like, I don't think I would
do that.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
And if you do it, then you're opening the door
for anything else, Like I don't think when I heard
a lot of people say like, oh, well, Ohio State
should have played better, and then that wouldn't have happened
and they shouldn't have started the fight.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
No, you do that, you're kind of asking for that.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
And that's why I feel like you just open a
door and everything becomes fair game at that point.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
There it is one hundred percent low hanging fruit. I'm
so absolutely, I'm.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
So glad you said that because I heard and the
low hanging fruit joke is I wish you would have
tried harder during the game than you, you know, as
hard as you did after the game as he did
during the game. You don't you don't think that they tried.
You know, you don't think that those Ohio State players
who could have gone to the NFL but want to
come back and play this game, you don't think that
they tried that game. You don't think Jack Sawyer, who
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gave up on NFL riches and thought he made a
game changing play with an interception to save his team
in his final game at Ohio STADIU don't think he
was trying. Like no, that's every one of both both sidelines.
It's just do it better, man, Like this is you
don't need to be doing that stuff being if you're
gonna do it, be creative. You know, like Florida State
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and Florida had a little brujja as well because Gators
went in Tallahassee. Florida State's thing. You know what they
had They have a sod cemetery where if they go
and they win, they would take a piece of sod
from that field and be like we won on this
field and they would bury it.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, but it's also taking something from the opposing field
and being like, we won. I don't know if it's
great or not, but I'm sure if Florida's like, well,
if there was a piece of the swamp that they
ended up bearing because of a win, I can get
some of that. But think of a different way to
do it. You don't have to do it to the logo.
It's now to me, it's almost played out. But you
know it's going to get riled up. You know you're
going to be in that situation. Unfortunately, people got pepper
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sprayed during the Michigan Ohio state scenario, and I still
don't know why pepper spray was used in that case.
But the point being, there's better ways to handle it.
I just have no idea why. It's the only way
that people think that they can celebrate a win and
that's the way to do it is just completely disrespect
your rival.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Well that's it, Jess, That's all it is. It's they
want to disrespect you.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
They feel that because they've beat you, not only did
they beat you, now they can disrespect you. That's the
entire point of that. But that I agree, think of
something better. Think of something clever, because it is when
you see it four times in one day, which you know.
Our producer Jason asked, it was like he said, it
seemed like they were just all on the same page.
And I feel like it was a little bit of
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mob mentality where it's like the first one did it,
and then the next team was like, we'll do it,
and then the next team was like, well, we might.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
As well do it.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
It just became like a ripple effect once the first
one went down.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Did you have any problems with all of the flag planting,
Jason once it became I guess the only thing that
teams were doing, I.
Speaker 9 (25:23):
Didn't have a problem with it. I just thought it
was odd. It just seemed what sort of coordinated, as
if all of these visiting rival teams were on the
same email and said we're all going to do this
on the same day. This is going to be plant
the flag Saturday. But I think it was just a
coincidence that in each of these important games the road
team won. I thought that was odd. I really did.
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Now I do have a question about the pepper spray,
and maybe Isaac has some news on this they were
going to investigate or why exactly are law enforcement people
in the middle of a football field with pepper spray?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
What what would.
Speaker 9 (26:01):
Be the reason why they would be carrying pepper spray
spray in that moment.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
I'm assuming it's just the quickest what they thought way
to put an end to so many people fighting or
pushing each other because pepper spray travel, Like if you
get secondhand pepper.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Spray, it's pretty bad.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
So I think it was like, you don't even have
to spray it at someone, you just spray it in
the air.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Everybody's going to be affected by it. It's rough.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I would also think that it was it's probably on
their person for reasons of security. Where fans storm the field,
that's probably the place where you would want it, never
thinking that you'd actually have to use it between the
two teams on the field.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
But for s I can't.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Believe that it was used in the first place, So
I would love to know the reason on why it
was actually used. But I would think it would be
more of if Ohio State won and fans rush the
field and then we're trying to do something to the
Michigan players, that that would be a reason to do so.
So Wisconsin and Minnesota played for Paul Bunyan's acts. Do
you guys think it's disrespectful to if you win on
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the road, to take the axe and chop pretend to
chop down the goalpost of the opposing team. Do you
think that that's respectful or disrespectful or do you think
that's creative celebration?
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Say that again.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
So Minnesota and Wisconsin play for a big Paul Bunyan's axe,
a big act. Minnesota won at Wisconsin on Friday, and
so when Minnesota takes the axe, they go, yes, yes,
it's you know, about this long and I'm showing my wingspan, yeah,
you know, six foot acts. So you take it, you
chop it. Do you think that that is a creative
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way to celebrate, to pretend to chop down your opponent's
goalpost or would that be disrespectful?
Speaker 5 (27:44):
I don't think that's disrespectful.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I think it's a creative way to show that you
beat your rival. You're it's more creative than that. It's
more creative than the middle of the field. Yeah, and
Wisconsin and Minnesota do that. And guess what. Minnesota did
it on Friday and nobody's sitting here is talking about it. Today, Like,
there's ways to do it. It's part of the rivalry.
The planting of the flag on the logo is something
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that is just Isaac longcron Sorry, sorry, Isaac. You've been
in a hockey locker room before with the logo in
the middle of the locker room.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 8 (28:15):
Yes, you can't step on the logo.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's the deal. That's the deal. You
do not walk across the logo. You walk around it,
you do not walk through it. And that's and I
think that's that's it's kind of the same thing with midfield.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
I don't disagree.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Do you know why Oklahoma made that higher today? They
wanted to do it sooner rather than later. So that's
that's dad joke.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
What are your better ones?
Speaker 7 (28:39):
Guys?
Speaker 8 (28:40):
Just to jump in literally moments ago, NFL media just
tweeted Christian McCaffrey is dealing with a PCL injury. It's
a six week recovery according to coach Kyle Shanahan. So
that's the latest there, just reported by NFL medium.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Are you buying l Shire's apology?
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Buying it in the sense of you feel bad now?
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Sure, but it's just unfortunately not your first offense, and
Trevor la there's so much to this, like it's not unfortunately,
it's not black and white in the sense it was
Trevor Lawrence. Does Trevor Lawrence really do damage with his
legs like that that you were so worried. He also
hasn't been playing because of a bum shoulder, Like there's
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to me that adds to the context of the situation.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
And then his history, Like if you just searches.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Him, you can easily find a video of all the
quote unquote illegal slash, dirty plays that he has done.
And so it's just okay, if maybe you weren't trying
to be malicious, maybe you weren't trying to hurt him,
but this wasn't in your first defense, and it just
seems like maybe you should not play in the league
because you don't know how to control it.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah, he is completely uncontrollable. There are some that were
saying that he was trying to fight other players afterwards
because he was afraid to stay in the game, that
they would that somebody would take a shot at him. Yeah,
because if al vicious, that would be next level thinking
at that part. I actually look at it as like
it actually shows how a lot of control he is,
and so either way is bad. But I just think
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it's completely out of control if you're looking to wrap
someone up. All of the times that we've seen guys
try to do hits off the middle, and think of
when the receiver bounces off and runs for sixty yards
in a touchdown and we say wrap them up, wrap
them up. He wasn't wrapping Trevor Lawrence up. Then that's
what defenders do coming across the middle. They put their
arm up or they lead with their head in that
scenario because they want to lay that leveling shot. That's
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why you have the arm up. If you were really
trying to wrap him up, you would have wrapped him up.
You would have wrapped him up like Cooper dejan did
for the Egos against the Baltimore Ravens and Derek Henry yesterday.
That's how you make a tackle. You don't make a
tackle with your far arm up. It was dirty, it
was awful, and I just went as far as this.
I know that we've seen stuff in the NFL. Nobody
wants to see Trevor Lawrence lying on the ground like that,
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absolutely no one, And it it's those sort of hits
that make people be like, you know, I don't want
to watch football, I don't want to play football. Knocking
someone out like that. We can all take and appreciate
hard hits. Dirty junk like that is no place for
itself in the National Football League, in college football at
any level.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
And again, with the history, it's hard to defend it.
And that's really what it is.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
And it's if you're thinking that you're going to need
to go out there and fight because nobody's going to
have your back, then you knew you did something wrong.
And also, like, why would you put your own quarterback
in a position where he could take a hit out
of revenge?
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Like why it just seems so irresponsible from every angle
of it.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
And if you.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Truly did not mean malicious intent, unfortunately you have proven
multiple times that you cannot control yourself and maybe it's
time that you no longer play football.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
That's why we're just talking about hockey. It's why you
get fights in hockey. It's why you have goons in hockey,
because if somebody's going to do that to your star player,
then you're going to have somebody your team, your guys
going to do that to their star player. You fight
it out, you get the aggression out. There's there's there's
no place in the NFL for something like this. Absolutely not.
She's Moncey Belaanhos, I'm Dan Bayer sitting in for Doug
(32:11):
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(32:33):
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Speaker 4 (32:35):
Also Jordan Mason going on IR for the forty nine ers.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
That's next here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
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Speaker 2 (32:52):
It is Moncey Belanos, I'm Dan Bayer. It is DMX
on Fox Sports Radio. We are in for Gottlieb. I
love it, R, I p R. Jason Stewart's been hanging
out today. Appreciate all of Jason's contributions. Ryan Smith is
well our technical producer, and Isaac Longcron hanging out as well.
(33:12):
And he's got with us the press. He does maybe
he does, he does, he does. Ryan Smith was so
proud that he found a d MX Christmas song. Now
now it's no, it's not game time. It's the press.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
The press, the press.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Tell you what, Just play any music pad?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Sorry, it's that was the That was the the radio
version of how the Raiders handled that last possession against
the Chiefs right, just completely like false start, early snap movement.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
I forgot about the press. It's all.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
It's all good. Still Monday, Isaac, What do you got
in the latest on the forty nine Ers? Just for
those that are tuning in.
Speaker 8 (34:06):
Speaking of having a case of the Monday's forty nine
Ers head coach Kyle Shanahan announcing just moments ago running
back Christian McCaffrey will be out at least six weeks
because of a PCL injury to his knee. He will
not need surgery, but he is of course headed to
injured reserve. He also announced that forty nine Ers running
back Jordan Mason also headed to injured reserve because of
(34:28):
a high ankle sprain.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
It's done, it's over.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Wrap it up.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
This season is.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Done, and they're gonna have to start anew like they haven't.
They haven't gone down down yet. There's still a lower
depth to this. They got to figure out what they're
gonna do with Brock Perdy this offseason, which is likely
pay him, but you're gonna have to retool everything around
him because all of these pieces you can no longer
count on. You can't count on a future with Christian
McCaffrey anymore. Sorry, you can't. You're gonna have Brandon a
(34:55):
you coming off of an ACL injury next season. I
don't know how long people Samuel was for San Francisco anyway,
there's just Trent Williams isn't gonna play forever.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
It's it's not the rebus.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Let Trent Williams sit out the rest of the season
with that broken ankle, like just he doesn't need to
play his tenth consecutive game with broken ankle.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Well, not with the broken angle, but the season suffering
that they.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Would benefit more for tanking than they would to try
to compete for a division title. They aren't going anywhere again,
They're not competing with the Eagles. You watch the Eagles yesterday.
The Eagles would would take care of the forty nine
ers with the East YEP. Right now, with the shape
that they're in, there's no point in trying to make
a push. They'd be better to just pack it up
and try to move up the draft board as much as.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
He can, especially because they're still so banged up.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Just yeah, yeah, they're old too, Yeah they got older players.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (35:45):
Today's Chicago Bears President Kevin Warren confirmed that Ryan Poles
will remain the Bears general manager and that Poles will
be the one hiring the bears next head coach.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I like how Kevin Warren says that, because everybody thinks
Kevin Warren's going to be the one making the decision.
Kevin Warren also said it's the most desirable job in
the NFL. Okay, right now, there are three of them,
the Jets. Nobody wants that mass unless you like New
York and the Saints right now, and I'm sorry, no quarterback,
(36:18):
at least in Chicago, you have a quarterback. So to
that point, he's true, But the most desirable job will
probably go to a place where you can get paid
very well. And I don't know if Chicago is going
to pay very well for the next head coach. They should,
but if they cheap out, the Bears are going to
be where they've always been.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
And I feel like you have to kind of keep
some sort of consistency right to make people feel better. So, yeah,
we're going to keep this guy that's trying to build
from what we already have.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
I mean, it makes sense, but they should have just
cut Bait last year.
Speaker 8 (36:50):
Final item on this edition of the Press comes from
college basketball two time defending national champion Yukon and the
latest AP ranking dropped from number two to number twenty
five today after their nightmare trip to Hawaii last week
when they went oh and three at the Maui Invitational.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
At least they're still ranked. At least they're still.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Only twenty five. Is yeah, twenty five is something Danny
Hurley saying, no more uh, no more multi team events
for his squad. He has done doing that only home
and homes and one offs like at Madison Square Garden
or in Las Vegas he has done with the multi
team events MTS as they call him in college.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
So you're saying your team is weak and can't handle it.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
No, I just think Danny Hurley knows he's got some
clouts and wanted to pounce.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
And that's the press, all right, Yeah, they're in pressed.
That was Broacos tonight Manzi.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Who you got, Browns Broncos,
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