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April 10, 2025 • 38 mins

Doug and the crew feature the sports year of 2011 in this version of "Don't Call It A Comeback, Thursday". Doug welcomes NBA Insider Marc Stein onto the show to talk about Luka's return to Dallas, the Michael Malone firing and all of the big headlines around the NBA. Plus, Monse Bolanos takes Doug through The Press.

 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:23):
with us. Give us updates as he did last hour
Mantzi Blanya's half past the hour, give you the scores.
We got other stores working in baseball, in baseball as
with day Baseball Getaway Day, and then of course anything football.
If we hear about Aaron Rodgers, who still has not
said where he's going, which leads you to think maybe
he's going to retire, I have no idea. I'm not

(00:45):
gonna idea. We'll update you throughout the day, but we
do this every Thursday. Was a really good idea that
Jason Stewart had a while back. I do think, not
so secretly, Jay Stute just likes the element of being
a you know, a a a rock station morning DJ

(01:07):
where he can get into what songs were big in
the year that we select, but instead of calling it
throwback Thursday, we say it's don't call it a throwback Thursday.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
I don't call it a throwback Thursday.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
What you got there? Dan Byr, Thank you Dog.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
I'll take it from here. Byers my damn bar.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Sorry, sorry, Chase two. It wasn't doing Dan Barr's Dan Bayer.
I screw that one up too.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
I did to play that drop and then I killed
my music, so I ended up owning myself there. All right,
carry on?

Speaker 3 (01:53):
The year is two thy eleven eleven. I need you all,
in all the listeners, to go back to twenty eleven.
What were you doing that year? What were you into?
What sports were you following? What do you remember sports
wise from that year. I personally didn't remember this, but
because Dan's out today, I'm going to fill the golf

(02:15):
section of this segment. The seventy fifth Masters were played
in twenty eleven, and I was just reminded that some
guy named Schwartzel was the winner of the tournament, somebody
of note. Eight people went into the final day tied
for the lead, Wow, including Tiger Woods and Rory McElroy.

(02:39):
Seventy fifth masters. I'm sure that was a bundle of
joy to celebrate and try to forget the dark past
at Augusta. But I'll tell you what twenty eleven golf Monsey.
I think you said you were in college, which were
such great years for all of us. What were you
into and what do you remember from sports that year?

Speaker 5 (03:01):
Yes, I was in college, good times, But in twenty
eleven was the year that the Mavericks won.

Speaker 6 (03:10):
The NBA title.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
That's right, and one of my favorite players, if not
up there, is Darknovitski, and I really do feel that
this was one of the last championship runs where it
was one superstar surrounded by all the right role players
and maybe you know, more than a role player, but
the actual one superstar team, Like I feel like this

(03:34):
was the last of it, and.

Speaker 6 (03:35):
I don't think anyone expected it.

Speaker 7 (03:37):
They had to go through so much, take down the Lakers,
take down Lebron in the heat, like okay, see, it
was such a good run, and I was you know,
I have a Darknoviski shirt I think from that year
because they finally won, and I never forget it, never
forget Maverick's NBA title.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
I remember Tyson Chandler from that team.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
Yeah, a good postseason, but Jason Kidd, Jason Kidd wasn't
Peja Stojakovic on that team.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
We'll look it up. But now the question for you
all is and maybe Doug on this one, was that
series known more for the MAVs winning or the Heatles losing?

Speaker 1 (04:18):
It's no more for the heat losing.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (04:22):
Yeah, I want to say both, but I think yeah,
maybe because the Heatles were not supposed to lose?

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Was that not the first season after Lebron said counted
all the championships that were going to win.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Is that those two, not three, not four, not.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Six, not seven?

Speaker 4 (04:49):
They won their first and they lost too, and then
they won their fourth finals, right, so they went, oh.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
No, Sam, Sam's not going off any script here.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
No, I remember that they won their first, they lost
two finals in a row, and then they won their
fourth one as the Heatles.

Speaker 6 (05:04):
Is that true the very first year?

Speaker 1 (05:06):
No, they won their first two, they won the middle two.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Right, Yeah, they they lost their first I'm sorry I
had backwards. They lost their first one.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
They lost their first one. One. They lost their first one, No, wait,
lost the first one one one lost one one one
is that right. Let's see, they beat the Yes, they
beat the thunder and they lost. Then they went no no.
Then they won two and then lost the last one.

Speaker 6 (05:33):
They won in twenty twelve and twenty thirteen, yes, and.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Then they lost the last one. Yeah, So it was
they were sandwiched by losses and when the when the
two in the middle.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Okay, sorry I had that reverse.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
So they won yeah, yeah, they lost their first one,
won the middle two, and then lost the last one.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
First year didn't have ray Oon, right, That sounds about right, Yes,
didn't have ray Oon.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
But hey, we were talking about the championship MAVs here
who may never sniff one for a while, Jason, you
were talking about Dirk earlier, right or no, no, sorry,
that was little Dirk. That's a different guy, right, because
Big Dirk Nowitzki is a big big.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
There's no no tease in Will Dirk. Will Dirk, I
think has done some of the greatest features in hip
hop over the last five or six years. I'll send
you guys links. I got it off topic here, different Dirk.
I remember the Cardinals won it. What do you think, Doug?
Remember that Cardinals won it? Somebody that you know was

(06:31):
on that team.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
No, yeah, that was Matt Holiday was on that team,
David Freeze. That was the when twice they were down
the last strike and David Freeze hit home runs a
game set.

Speaker 6 (06:40):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
The thing that I'll always remember about that is that
when they were David Freese used to take batting practice
with like iPod hearing what do you call those things?
iPod headphones? Yeah, and one or some nastas. At some point,
what are you listening to right now as you're taking

(07:04):
batting practice? And this is what he was listening to.
One of the songs of twenty eleven. In fact, this
was number two on the charts, Party Rock Anthem by
l mfaoh featuring Warren Bennett and goon Rock. What a jam.

(07:28):
This is still a banger.

Speaker 6 (07:29):
Still a banger, But I would not have known who
was the artist to the song.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Did you dance to it in college?

Speaker 6 (07:35):
I'm sure I did?

Speaker 5 (07:36):
But if you would have given me multiple choice, I
don't know if I would have got that right.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Lmfaoh what is that stand? Party rock Anthem? What is
LMFAO stand for?

Speaker 1 (07:46):
You?

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Can you line us? No?

Speaker 1 (07:48):
It's a good point. No, not on radio, No, not
on radio. Well you could on the podcast, but you
also couldn't play this music. Nobody could hear the music
on the podcast.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
It's true.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
I see l M f ao used as a shorthand
for laughing my blanket butt off still used, not at
not out of fashion yet. But Jason, you know this
is a nice party theme party, you know, club club music,
up tempo. But there's some really serious music going on too.

(08:22):
Let's let's let's take this is the number one. This
is the number one song on one song of two
thy eleven.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
This is a dell before the sirt, before the stomach staple.

Speaker 6 (08:42):
Right, yeah, absolutely, absolutely amazing.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
This is amazing. Do you guys want to talk movies?
Here we got Here we go twenty eleven, A lot
of sequels. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part two, Transformers,
Dark Side of the Dark of the Moon, Twilight, those
are the top three. Hangover Part two is four. Oh yeah,

(09:10):
Pirates of the Caribbing on Stranger Tides. Five, those are
the five. Actually six is another Fast five another the
fifth version of Fast, The Furious Cars two all sequels.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
A sequels the one I can think of this Actually
you see here that's original. Is like Bride'smaids at fourteen.

Speaker 6 (09:27):
Which I did not think was funny.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Oh I loved, wasn't funny?

Speaker 6 (09:31):
I did not.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
I don't know if I went into it because everybody's like, good,
so good, you can not stop bluffy.

Speaker 6 (09:35):
And I walked in. I was like, I don't get this.
I don't think it's very funny.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Wow, because a lot of I feel like a lot
of comedies in the last twenty five years missed the
mark for me.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
I thought Bride'smaids was like.

Speaker 5 (09:46):
When she's in the wedding dress on the street, you know,
when she's yeah, yeah, yeah, that's not funny to me.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
If she has the little uh the Brazilian steakhouse, that's
just not funny.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
That food poisoning exactly.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
I ate a brazil I ate a good at chaw
in San Antonio. Oh my gosh, it was so good.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
It is and I'm sorry not a meat eater, but
Brazilian steakhouses are just eat until you.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Drop Moneyball was that year, by the way, Yeah, that's
that's the screen version of the best selling book Brad Pitt.
Of course, Like if you're gonna have Brad Pitt Bay
like you're Billy Bean, Like, I don't know if I'm
gonna do this. Hey, Brad Pitt's gonna play you, Like, yeah,
I think we should do it.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, the cast choices were a little odd. Billy Bean
doesn't look a thing like Brad Pitt, and Art how
looks nothing like Philip Seymour Hoffman. And then they left
out of them.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Now Phillips aff a great actor.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Amazing, amazing Academy Award winner, yes, but no longer yes.
And then the movie left out something that the book
did a good job of leaving out too. And this
is the biggest criticism of Bunnyball is that they almos
they give almost no credit to their pitching staff. That
that staff that had Barry Zito and Tim Hudson and

(11:12):
Mark Moulder was such a massive part of those a's teams,
but they're largely ignored by the story, and that's always
pointed out as a flaw.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
I mean, yeah, what are you gonna do?

Speaker 4 (11:27):
So back to those movies, though, I feel like that
that list of like the top twenty grossing films of
twenty eleven, it's just a preview for like everything we
have in theaters, you know, fifteen years fourteen fifteen years later,
a lot of Marvel films, a lot of sequels, not
a ton of like mainstream original content, even though there's
still plenty of original movies out there. But seems like

(11:49):
it's we're just kind of looking at like last week's
rundown of movies. When you look at that list and
Harry Potter there at the top.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
The fighter that was that year, Lincoln Lawyers.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
Ago Fighter, I think is especially Christian Bale. I love that.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Movie Dolphin Tail. My kids love Dolphintale.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
Do Horrible Bosses with Jennifer Andison no alone there. I
love Horrible Bosses.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
I still haven't seen that, but I've heard that's a
good one.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Hey, Jennifer Aniston, like monsy, help us out? How does
she she is? She still looks.

Speaker 6 (12:24):
Super young, you know she does.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
I think she just approached the uh maybe botox and
surgery the right way, Like she didn't do it too early,
and she's done very minimal work because she has she
has to have how to work done No.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Fifty six. Maybe a little plumping here and there.

Speaker 6 (12:42):
Yeah, but she's handled it really well.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
Like she looks she looks young, but she also doesn't look.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Like she's she's she's on the she's on the lady.
She's fifty six years old.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
She's fifty six. Yeah, yeah, she looks her face looks
nice and tight. She looks still like her original youthful image.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
She didn't get a nose job.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
She didn't get she.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Had no job a long time time ago.

Speaker 6 (13:06):
She get another one, right, I don't think she got
another one.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
No, I said she didn't.

Speaker 6 (13:10):
Oh no she didn't.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, No, she got a boot job. She's done a
very it's been very like minimal. She didn't get it
to like, Oh she got a boob.

Speaker 6 (13:17):
Job, yeah, never noticed it slowly.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
You can radio boot what boot job? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (13:24):
You can?

Speaker 3 (13:24):
You can boobs, you can booby All right, let's move
Why do to move on?

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Jennifer?

Speaker 6 (13:30):
I love jist.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
The second she starts to look old, we're all gonna
feel really old.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yes. By the way, Season four of The Morning Show
is coming out this summer.

Speaker 6 (13:40):
I cannot wait. I've been watching that.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
I haven't watched in season one. I'm just sorry.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
It's still good.

Speaker 6 (13:46):
But season one is better.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Season one is like the whole real story, right, and
then everything else, everything else is like completely fiction.

Speaker 6 (13:53):
Yes, yeah, but it's still good, it's still fun. But
you're right. Season one is is the best one, Doug.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
We just wrapped up up the UH sorry, the morning
show talk there. We just wrapped up the college bass
men's and women's basketball National championship season and a team
that has been very relevant the last few years. UH
won the Natty in twenty eleven on the men's side,
and that would be the Yukon Huskies with UH was
it coach Ali? They had ke Kevin Ali? Was that

(14:20):
the and then was that the.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Was it Schabbez Napier. Yeah, like I I I can't
get snacks before I go.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
To Yeah, I can't. Just don't. Some nights I got
home hungry.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
And now look at them.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
They could, they could get They could spend a million
dollars on Uber Eats if they wanted to.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
But yeah, you know, for for a.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
National it's not a lie if you believe it.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
I have no listen, hopefully they had done a sack system.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
There has ever gone to bed hungry? Ever?

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Maybe he just wanted lasagna like one in the morning
it wasn't available, so he's like, I went to bed
hungry that night. Ever, Burr, But UH, oh, and they
had a did they have I'm sorry if I get
this wrong.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Did they have hashim the beat they did on that team?

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Was that a hashem to beat her? I don't know
if they have formed to beat that year. Maybe they did.
You would talk about a bad draft pick, yike.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
But I mean one of the greatest names in sports
history hashim tha beat, like we got the beat?

Speaker 1 (15:24):
I mean that that's I don't think it's one of
the greatest. Think it's I think it's a unique name.
I I because you we could go like twenty deep
on great even college basketball name.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
He was not on that team. So Kemba Walker.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
He was on the Kemba Walker team, right, that was
the name.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
I'm sorry, Yeah, he.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Was sticks Stix Robinson.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Okay, little earlier, Yeah, Charles A kwandukwond that was Kimba's
Yukon Huskies. All right, very nice. That's all you do
this so we can nail out the historical facts here
and that.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Don't call it come back Thursday.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Don't call it a throwback.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
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Speaker 1 (16:19):
All right, we're keep an eye on the masters. Justin
Rose who just hit a ball like I don't know.
It looks say a yard from the hole. What would
that actually be like, I don't know. Moncio, get us
updated in a second. Maybe by popular demand, she'll do
it back in her mom's accent. I'm not really sure.
Let's talk some NBA with you. Want to talk about
the all time backfires? This last night the Lakers come

(16:40):
to town. Anthony Davis did play. Obviously we know Kyrie Irving.
It's a different Mavericks team. But Luca comes in and
drops what was at forty five Just remarkable night and
the guy to best kind of encapsulate it, give us
his thoughts. Plus, get us ready for the NBA playoffs
is the best in the business. Marks joins us, longtime

(17:01):
NBA writer and insider. He publishes a substack called the
Steinlin and he joins us on Fox Sports Radio. Mark,
as you've told us, you know, you were so close
to the previous regime. Really with the MAVs this time
not as much, and we've kind of tracked through the trade.
But for a guy that's been around Dallas, the Dallas

(17:21):
Mavericks for so long, both up close and from afar.
Give me your kind of reaction to last night.

Speaker 9 (17:30):
Well, look, I went into it thinking it was going
to be unlike any other revenge game, return game, whatever
you want to call it, and it really was. I mean,
it just was the one thing I think we knew
for sure was that Luca was going to be showered
with love, and it was even more love than I

(17:50):
think I anticipated, maybe even more than he anticipated. I mean,
you just had twenty thousand people rooting for Luka Doncic.

Speaker 8 (17:59):
Ahead of the home, ahead of anybody on the.

Speaker 9 (18:01):
Court, like this is still his city, and to see
how hard that tribute video hit him emotionally, but then
as he gradually worked past it and got it out
of his system and got back normal, and then just
I mean, look, the last two games I've seen Luca

(18:23):
in person in Milwaukee in March and last night, he's
gone for forty five twice.

Speaker 8 (18:28):
So it's just is he is truly one of a kind.

Speaker 9 (18:32):
And it just slammed home why you do not trade
this guy, Whatever issues you think you have with him,
whatever flaws you think he has, he is twenty five
years old. He is not yet in his prime. You
run out every ground ball to fix those things before
you trade it. You just you cannot trade a player

(18:52):
that's good.

Speaker 8 (18:53):
You just can't.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
And the Lakers get to the NBA Finals.

Speaker 9 (19:00):
Them on the puncher's chance list. Look, Oklahoma City is
the clear favorite in the West. But you know what,
they could have won two in a row. Okay, see
if Luca doesn't get thrown out the other night. I mean,
they could have won that second game. And you saw
on Sunday that was really his best and most important
performance as a Laker to date. I can promise you
the Thunder won't want to.

Speaker 8 (19:20):
See the Lakers, and I don't think anybody wants to
play them.

Speaker 9 (19:23):
They don't have a top flight big man, and that's
certainly an issue. But their small team is big and
physical because guys like Hatcha Mura and Lebron and Luca,
you know, they are big and physical for their positions
and just offensively, they can cause problems with three playmakers.

(19:43):
So can they win four rounds? Can they win three
rounds just to even get to the finals. I don't
know if that's possible. The matchups will obviously tell us
a lot, but they are very high on that list
on the punch you know, with all the chaos.

Speaker 8 (20:00):
You know, Denver was my.

Speaker 9 (20:01):
Real punters chance team in the West, but it's gone
so bad there that I just I don't think Jokic
has enough help. I think Joki is playing the best
basketball of his life, but he just does he have
enough help? Is there enough shooting in depth around him?
And you know the Warriors, that was a devastating loss
for them last night because now they're at risk of
falling into the play in They don't need more games.

(20:22):
The Warriors do not need more work to do to
go far in the playoffs.

Speaker 8 (20:27):
So I mean deep playoff run.

Speaker 9 (20:30):
It's hard to say, but like I said, I don't
think anybody in the West relish is And you know,
Luca is a playoff monster. I mean, he's always been
better in the playoffs, So I don't think anybody's lining
up to see him.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Stet Gotlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Mark stein
he publishes the Steinlein Substack, joins us here on the
Gotlieb Show. Hey, let me ask you about Denver. What's
been the league's reaction to firing Mike Malone and fire
your GM just like a week and a half for
the playoffs.

Speaker 9 (21:01):
The Memphis situation took some of the surprise out of
it because the reality is Michael Malone and Calvin Booth,
the cold war between them has been an open secret
in the league, and Josh Fonki, who runs the Nuggets,
has basically come out and said, we had decided we
were going to fire both of these guys after the season.

Speaker 8 (21:24):
We decided to do it.

Speaker 9 (21:25):
Now, you know, they're clearly trying to see if they
can get us save the season reaction out of the players,
because the season was gone if they didn't change it.
And I do think the players like David Adelman, so
will they play better?

Speaker 8 (21:42):
Mate?

Speaker 9 (21:42):
You know, I suppose, But I'm just I'm so intrigued
more by the history of this whole thing, because I think,
you know, I.

Speaker 8 (21:53):
Love my basketball history, and just.

Speaker 9 (21:58):
Before this season, we had never seen an NBA team
fire a coach with a winning record and less than
ten games to go in the season, and now we've
seen it twice. Now that claim does have an asterisk
because when Larry Brown left the Nets in nineteen eighty three,
it was recorded as a resignation. When in truth. That

(22:19):
also was a firing. If you remember, Larry Brown had
secretly negotiated to go to Kansas to go back to
the college game, and so the Nets let him go
with six games left in the season. But technically that
was recorded as a resignation. So let's include it on
the list if you want to be technical or no,
to not be technical. So it's the first time since

(22:40):
nineteen eighty three, since you and I were young kids,
that we've seen a team with a winning record do this,
and that was that was a case obviously.

Speaker 8 (22:49):
Where Larry Brown's getting another job. I mean, you'll to
just see a team.

Speaker 9 (22:55):
To see two teams s flirting with fifty wins and
make a coaching change this late and year, it's just staggering.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
I would agree that it is staggering. This is the
Doug Gotlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Mark Stein is
our guest. Let's talk about Oklahoma City. You mentioned that
the Lakers could have beat them twice. Here we are
getting now they have far and away the best record
in the West. What's the league say about what they
really think about Oklahoma City and the playoffs?

Speaker 9 (23:24):
Look, this is it's the same thing for Cleveland This
is the way the NBA is, like we doubt you
until you do it.

Speaker 8 (23:31):
And it's in some ways.

Speaker 9 (23:33):
It's not fair because both the Thunder and the Cavaliers
have just had amazing regular seasons. I mean, you really,
you can't do much better in the regular season than
what these teams have achieved. Okay, they're not going to
be seventy win teams, but like I don't think, you know,
it's a little much to expect teams to win seven,
you know, to crack that seventy win territory that only

(23:54):
two teams in league history have ever hit.

Speaker 8 (23:56):
I mean, they both know.

Speaker 9 (23:58):
The Cavs started fifteen and Oher the Thunder have just
been dominant by every single metric you can find. And
but in both cases, you know they're gonna be.

Speaker 8 (24:11):
Doubted until they do it.

Speaker 9 (24:13):
And then what happens Then when a team wins, we
kind of give them too much credit and too much leeway,
which you know, and I'm guilty of doing this with Denver.
You know, Denver won the title in twenty three and
ever since I've just I've always bet on them to
They'll figure it out, they'll get it done. They're champions now,
and you know, again, it's probably not fair, but it's

(24:37):
it's the reality of the situation. And like you know,
last year, Boston won the East by fourteen games, fourteen
and we hadn't seen that happen since the mid seventies.
And oh, very quietly, Okaysee's winning the West by fourteen
games this season and okay See has the best night

(25:00):
lead point differential in league history. But again, they are
going to be doubted. And if they play teams like
the Warriors, like the Lakers in the playoffs, teams with
veterans and know how like, there will be lots of
people I suspect picking upsets because we haven't seen.

Speaker 8 (25:21):
The Thunder do it yet on the big stage, and.

Speaker 9 (25:24):
It'll be you know, that is definitely one of the
major storylines of the playoffs, just to see how the
Thunder react to that pressure.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Uh, it does feel like you mentioned like the Denver
Memphis Phoenix. I don't know if they're going to make
another change, but that's obviously not working. Tibbs is under
a bunch of pressure in New York. I've heard that
that ten jobs is kind of the over under on
how many maybe opening the offseason.

Speaker 8 (25:52):
I mean it won't be ten. It's not going to
be ten.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Like San Antonio.

Speaker 9 (25:59):
Also, I mean, like I said, ten is ten is
a third of the league. I don't We're not going
to see ten openings. But what I do think it's
just the way coaching in the NBA is involved. And look,
the salaries are better than they've ever been. But part
of the reason is is because there's more pressure on
NBA coaches than ever, and NBA coaches have to do

(26:23):
all the spokesman work for their team. You know, players
are speaking less, executives are speaking less than ever, and
so it's the coach who has to go out there
multiple times on game days and basically field all the
questions for the teams. And so yeah, I you know, again,
I think these seeing what's happened in Memphis and Denver,

(26:45):
it just kind of underlines.

Speaker 8 (26:46):
That, you know, coaching in the NBA to me, has.

Speaker 9 (26:49):
Never been more pressure filled and volatile.

Speaker 8 (26:52):
And yeah, I mean Phoenix. I mean if Phoenix, if
Mike Budenholzer.

Speaker 9 (26:57):
Does not stick there, I mean that's you know, Frank
Bogle got a year, Mike budenho Mike Budenholzer will have
only received one season. MANI Williams only had one season
under new ownership. I mean, you know, they've got such
roster issues that you know, but it's the it's the

(27:18):
old adage. I mean, the easiest thing to change is
the coach. Sorry about the new profession you picked, but
that's the reality.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
No, I get it. It's it's everybody says, great job. Uh,
crappy profession. That's what the that's what they'll say. Uh. Anyway,
Well listen, let's catch up again soon. You're the best.
Can't wait for the playoffs to start. Check out his
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NBA insider reporter Mark Stein Sonny, thanks so much for
joining us.

Speaker 8 (27:44):
All right, man, we'll talk to be good.

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Speaker 6 (27:55):
All right, that's as much as I can.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
I gotta I gotta do my mom. I gotta do
my mom. Having a cut, say she's your mom. My mom
is like gold join Baltimore. But I've been to Baltimore,
you know, Baltimore was founded by the British, and your
great great grandma had nothing to do with Baltimore, but
what she did do and like, oh my god, oh

(28:17):
how long is the story gonna be? Like jeez, my
mom and your mom having a conversation, that's a podcast.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
That sounds like a podcast, or we should just do
it ourselves and pretend to be our moms.

Speaker 6 (28:29):
See where it goes, See where I go, coach, But.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
My mom goes, well, you know what she's got in.
When she's got Cliff Claven information, she'll just start with it,
you know, which, which translates roughly into like you don't
know this, No one knows, no one, no one actually
cares about this. But I know details of a story
that I'm going to share with you.

Speaker 6 (28:46):
Now you're about to hear all of it exactly. Yes,
we'll check in on the masters. Justin Rose still in
the lead.

Speaker 10 (28:52):
He's through fourteen holes and he is at six hundred
part overall. Corey Connor's Scottie Shuffler both done their two
shots back. Rory mac l roy through eleven holes is
three shots back. In NFL News, Penn State defensive end
Abdulla Carter's medical recheck in Indianapolis today showed that the
stress reaction.

Speaker 11 (29:09):
In his foot is healing. There's been improvement, so no
surgery will be needed. This is according to his agent,
and in men's college hoops, ESPN reports at a high point,
coach Alan huss is stepping down and will rejoin Greg
mcdermot's staff at Creighton, where he will be named head coach.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
In waiting back to you, coach.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Okay, so this is a real basketball conversation. Okay, two
nights ago, the bull who are the Bulls playing? Gosh,
I watched I've been watching way too much basketball on tape.
Here bulls are playing there. Oh sorry, the Bulls are
playing the Heat. Okay, the Heat are down five points
and with like forty one seconds to go. I believe

(29:50):
it was or somewhere close to that Tyler hero Blazer,
the Heat down five steals the ball. This is what happened.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Twenty four shots, twenty eight points for e Us.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
He picks his pocket, pulls up.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
And herder is there on here it's here, comes holder down.

Speaker 9 (30:11):
Boy.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
I'll tell you what I mean.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
He's got confident, isn't taking it shot?

Speaker 9 (30:15):
Go get the lay up, Go get.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
The lay up. You got a chance to score a
bucket there.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Get that lay up and know you've got confidence.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Okay, so here's the question, real quick roundtable. Okay, you're
down five, and you know they're talking about the confidence
to get the layup. He has a breakaway, he lays
it in. It's a ninety nine percent shot. He makes it,
ninety nine percent shot. I don't know what time the
hero shoots from three. Probably i'm guessing in the thirty
six to thirty eight variety. But he was also wide

(30:45):
open in transition. You have more balance, you have better rhythm.
That's probably a forty two or so percent shot. Right,
you make the you make the three, it cuts it
to two. You're going to get the ball back because
there's thirty eight seconds to go. Is that the right
play or the wrong play? Let's start with you, Jason Stewart.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
I'm old school, like, take the lay up.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Okay, take the layup, Sammy.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
I don't. I don't know. It's hard for me to
like envision what's going on.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
It's an opinion.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
Yeah, I don't. I can't give an opinion because I don't.
I can't conceptualize what it was.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
You can't conceptualize. No, they're down five, they steal the ball.
Yeah yeah, yeah, down five, steal the ball. Okay, thirty
eight seconds ago, he pulls up to shoot a three
instead of laying the ball in. So his decision was
take a what's seen as a forty two percent shot maybe,
or for three you get one more point, or take
a very high ninety nine yeah, ninety nine percent shot

(31:45):
wide open.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Layup, and they would put them up with a layup
and put them up by seven.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
No, not up would No, they're they're down. They're down five,
so you're either down two or down three.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Uh yeah, I'd have to go with Jason.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
Just just take the take the points because you do
have some time left to make it up, So take
the points instead of risking a tougher shot.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
Months That is the correct answer. I feel like nine
out of ten times, but Tyler Hero makes that shot. Also, like,
I have no problem with him taking that shot. Was
it Bam out of bio taking the shot. I would
have a problem with it. But that's the right answer.

Speaker 6 (32:21):
Is the layup. That is the right answer. I just
don't have a problem with Tyler Hero taking that shot.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Okay, I don't traditionally have a problem with Tyler taking
that shot. The difference in why it's the wrong shot
the one that he took is because a layup gets
you to a one possession game. A three gets you
to a one possession Yeah. Yeah, if you were down six,
then it was absolutely the right shot. Take down five.
You know, the layup is probably better because you're gonna

(32:47):
get the basketball back. You're gonna get the basketball back.
So but it's interesting that everybody automatically assumes always playing
hero ball when really there's there's a little bit of
math to it. Again, I don't think it's the worst
shot ever, and you can't go by the result. The
result was he missed and oh yeah, by the way,
the Bulls got the rebound, ran it up the floor

(33:08):
and give up a three. So instead of instead of
going from five to three or five to two, it
goes from five to eight and that's game over. That's
all she wrote. That's a high risk, high reward play.
The reason though, it's a better than forty two percent
shot or you know whatever his percentage is on a
wide open three. Okay, I hope you realize that his
percentage of scoring is actually better than the actual shot percentage.

(33:33):
Do you know why, Sam? Do you know why, Jason?
Do you know why Monci?

Speaker 3 (33:38):
No?

Speaker 1 (33:39):
No, because he no, he didn't, But you can still
get an offensive rebound. Yeah, okay, we all look at
it in the raw percentages of well, you shoot the layup,
you make it. Okay, that's it's it's not one hundred percent,
but ninety nine percent of the time a breakaway layup
NBA player really athletic, he probably dunks it. If not,

(34:01):
he lays it in, and that's that. That's that's two
points nine percent. But you have whatever percentage he shoots
on a lot wide open transition three. Then you could
also get it back in, lay the ball in, get
it back and shoot another three, get it back and
get found and get an a one. So it's not
that pure row percentage. I do think that laying the
ball in is the right play because it takes you
to one possession, but it is not so far wrong

(34:23):
that you're like, that's a terrible shot. Makes sense?

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
That's that's my view on it. I just thought it
was a real We talked so much about you know,
emotions and all this other stuff, like that's a real
sports discussion.

Speaker 9 (34:35):
M HM.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Monsy says, uh huh.

Speaker 6 (34:39):
Jes, I agree, I agree, it's a good discussion. Well,
you know, you know, you know, you know that's right now.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
That your father used to talk about these things all
the time.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
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Doug Gottlieb Show week days at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
It's It's the Doug Otler Show. Fox Sports Radio. Burning
down the House. Roy McElroy three under, he's through ten.
Get you some more updates here top of the hour. Uh.
We'd like to include every show with a quick wrap
up of everything going on in sports. We do it
by getting to the press, the press, Manti what he.

Speaker 6 (35:31):
Got, Well, coach.

Speaker 5 (35:32):
A big story this week was that the Denver Nuggets
fired their head coach, Michael Malone. Right now, they're fourth
in the Western Conference. They won last night against the
Kings Nicola Jokic with another triple double, and he broke
his silence on the firing of his coach.

Speaker 6 (35:47):
And this is what he had to say.

Speaker 12 (35:48):
I knew a little bit before everybody, and the heat
made people like we made a decision, So it was
not discussion. It was a decision and he told me why,
and then listening, I accepted. You know it's I'm not
going to tell what he told me. You're going to
keep that private. I mean, if you know, when someone
wants to make somebody up or change energy, that's probably
what they do. You know, in my country, if someone

(36:11):
get fired, your word is probably you're the next. So,
like I said, I mean, if you want to change something,
that's how we do it. And you know the owner
wanted to do it, so and.

Speaker 6 (36:20):
It happens, it happens.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Hmmm. I I mean it was a way of admitting
that he knew, telling us unequivocally he didn't that. Nobody said, hey,
do you want to keep him? Mm hmm, I don't know.
You know, I've I've read things You're like, well, Nikola
Jokic should demand a trade, like why why again? Now

(36:50):
he can really determine the team's future, his own fate, whatever,
because now he has kind of command and control. Hey, listen,
let's get this thing right again. My NBA people have
all said, not a surprise, surprising of the timing, but
it's pretty obvious they're trying to trying to kind of
goose this team into getting every last bit of potential

(37:13):
energy out of them because new GM will bring in
new players, new coaches, right right, And.

Speaker 5 (37:17):
You know, the story with the athletic is that there
was a bit of tension with how he was treating
Michael Malone, certain players like I guess it was okay
that Nikola Jokic and Jamal Murray had special treatment, let's
just say, but they didn't understand why Russell Westbrook was
getting this special treatment and that that's what rubbed players
the wrong way, or one of the things that rubbed

(37:37):
players the wrong way.

Speaker 6 (37:39):
And so that's tough. That's tough.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
So Russ is no longer among the protectic class.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
That's what it seems like.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
That's the story on the athletic, okay, And that's the
press they get.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Out there and pressed.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
That was the press, all right.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Lating days of the NBA continue on a lot of
getaway day baseball and hey, my angels, like one another
game five, Let's celebrate the little things, celebrate the daily
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