IN THE BONUS with Doug Gottlieb

Doug previews the National Title Game between UConn and San Diego State. Doug sounds off on the terrible officiating in the Woman's Championship Game and gives the truth about LSU HC Kim Mulkey.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, all right, this is the Doug Godlie Show
years in the bonus with Doug Godli. Hey, what up,
welcome in. I'm Doug Gottlie. This is in the bonus. Um,
let's let's let's begin. Let's begin with U tonight's national

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championship game. And it's fascinating to me on on on
something that maybe doesn't get a chance to be contextualized. Right, like,
context does matter. It matters with women's college basketball. Right,
It's not that Kim Moki and wearing flamboyant suits hasn't
happened before, or going crazy in the sideline hasn't happened before.
But the going crazy on the sideline thing isn't part

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of the women's game now. It's just not watch any
other women's game and it's not part of it. Right,
it's not part of it. So, um, context doesn't matter.
How did Yukon get to be this dominant? I think
they're going to win tonight. Look, my brother was at
Sandy the State for eight years. I love those guys.
I love the way they play, and I think it's

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really going to be interesting to see can they get
it into basically a street fight? Can they get it
to where it's a game where it comes down to
who gets rebounds, loose balls balls, can they throw in
enough bid rain shots. They're not a great shooting team.
They don't have I think the top end talent of
a Yukon, but they got some older kids and tough
and they got really tough kids and they played a

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long time and long time. A lot of them played
a long time together. But Yukon's dominance didn't happen in
a vacuum. It just didn't. First, you got to commend
Danny Hurley and his staff. He's got very very good
staff as well. And it's not just who they've gotten,

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they've gotten the right guys that they've gotten to stay
and play their way and play their way well, which is,
by the way, a fun style. Like you know, you
got Donaldan Klingon to come in as a freshman. Granted
wasn't like McDonald's all American, but they had a dumb
a snogo a lot of freshman wind gost somewhere. They're
not going to start right away, just they do it,

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or if they're unhappy or not starting, then then they leave.
They've got they have, They've built a real team, added
one guy out of the portal and they're feels like
they're running away with the national title. But it should
be pointed out that a lot of things went in
their favor. Right. Villanova wasn't healthy until the end of
the year, and Villanova probably is one of the teams

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while with Marquette that you know, could beat Yukon in
their league. Additionally nationally nationally obviously, they got it going
really well. Early. Part of it is they had everybody
back and no one else did, and so everybody else
or in the seasons trying to figure out their team.
Then once you get to the NCAA tournament, remember they

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were only a five seat, which feels feels like they're
four seed. They're really underseated, right, didn't they feel that way? Okay,
but here's what you have to remember. Houston wasn't healthy
in the tournament. Texas lost their starting center and Marcus Carr,
who's a fifth year senior starting wing, he got hurt.
Otherwise that's who they play instead of playing Miami in

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the national semifinals, and Texas is a legit national championship
caliber team, they didn't play anybody on the way here.
You know, they also played Gonzaga in the Elite Eight. Well,
they should have played Ucla, but UCLA was down two
starters when they played Gonzaga. And so when you're playing

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teams that are a step below in terms of talent,
Gonzaga is not like they were last year. They didn't
they didn't play Ucla. You know, they didn't have to
play Texas, and even in playing San Diego State, you
don't have to play one seats on the other side,
which again isn't Ukon's fault, but it makes them look
like they're playing against the JV, which it kind of

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feels like against the JV. And then you factor in,
you know, Kansas doesn't loses to Arkansas. Do I think
Bill self was good enough to win that game if
he's the head coach? I do? I do? You know,
you go through college basketball Xavier, who of course was
very good in the Big East, but they were a
guy short. You know, they lost their starting forward, starting

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power forward, leading scorer in the middle of the year
to be like a broken foot. So all of these
things helped make them look a little bit more dominant
than they are. Nonetheless, I don't know how you cannot
feel great for a guy like Danny Hurley who's been
through a lot right trying to chase the legend that
is his brother, Chase the legend that as his dad,

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and now he gets a chance to take a national
power back to prominence. And it goes against the narrative
of hey, you can go out in an il and
buy a team. They didn't, and they're probably gonna win
a national championship tonight. Let's find out what the fox said.
And now say, this is Dan Patrick on the women's

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national championship game. What Angel Reach did do it in
the game? But you weren't even you were in foul trouble.
And she is a great player. But if the other girls,
the other teammates did that, I'd have no problem with that.
And if she did that in the game where you're like,
can't see me or let me hear the crowd, I'd
have no problem with it. Man, it's back and forth.

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Who knows what's set out there. Caitlyn Clark lost her composure,
plain and simple, and I thought the officials they let
the game get away from them. You're gonna let him
play or not let him play. We're sort of letting
me play. We're not letting you play. We're gonna call
that and not call that. They were physical with Caitlyn Clark,
and that's what you do with the great scorer. This

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is no secret, but Caitlyn Clark is the reason why
people watch the NCAA tournament this year. I mean a
Friday night and you're getting six million people watching. Let's
not kid ourselves. We're talking women's basketball. And I thought
women's basketball won this tournament and this weekend, and I

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just don't want to have that's the moment we're going
to remember out of all of this. We shouldn't, but
we will. I didn't think Haitln Clark Loster cool. I
thought the officials were fucking terrible. They were fucking embarrassing. Okay,
people quote my pot all the time, quote me on that.

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It was a fucking joke. Look, my brother's been on
the women's side at Grand Canyan for the last three
years and I was getting ready to go to their
game this year against Ucrvine and he's like, have you
been to a women's game recently? I was like no.
He's like, you're not gonna believe the officiating. What do
you mean. He's like, well, here's the thing, you can't

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say anything anything like they're all about bench to corman players.
So I'm at the game they're playing Ucrvine and their
starting point guard got called for a couple of ridiculous
fouls and was walking to the bench being subbed out
and under her breath, that's bullshit. And she got ted, right,

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he got it was And I saw one of the
coaches get ted for asking what did she say? And
then there's another tea and you were like, what's going on?
So the women's college officiating has been a train wreck
for a long time as much as the men's. And
the men's was not particularly good on Saturday night either, right,
but usually they'll it's it's all about decorum. And here's

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the difference. I get that Caitlyn Clark when she's hitting shots,
she's talking, and you know, here's the thing. Like the
men's game, they don't talk that much. You know, they
talk a little bit, but not that much. And there's
definitely no hand gestures. The deal against Haley van Lith.
Haley van Lyth never shuts the fuck up. That's how
she plays, right, And she kept talking when she was,

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you know, up, and then they were down and then
you know, Caitlyn Clark hit a buckle of buckets and
she did that you can't see me. What Angel Reest
did was just that's just taunting. Game is over, it's
in hand, and you do it twice just to be
a jerk, right, just to be a jerk. I mean,
that's there's nothing more to it. The worst part about it,
honestly is not well. The officials were bad, okay, and

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they took Angel Reees out of the game in the
first half and it was a joke, like it was
so bad. And then the technical against Caitlin Clark was
equally was atrocious, right, like really like delay a game?
Come on, man, like, what are we doing here? It's
the National Championship game. It's the one game I've never
watched start to finish a women's game on TV. I

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have not full disclosure. I did yesterday and I was
excited about it. And I thought both teams were really good.
I thought LSU was way better and they played way
better and they had a much better game plan than
South Carolina had and that's why South Carolina's asked got beat.
But like, dude, that behavior is not okay. And then
my fucking people at ESPN or like that's the first

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thing to ask about. Yeah, that was great, Like you
guys are fueling it. That's that's not how how we
want to act. Like what what you're supposed to do
is honestly what Caitlyn Clark did when she was losing,
which was girls winning talking shit to you, taunting you,
and you just block it out. But I thought the
whole thing was a train wreck in terms of that

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element to the broadcast crew, um and and the track.
It wasn't. There's it's a difference in trash talking and taunting, right.
Trash talking is dude, motherfucker, come on, you know, or
you can't shoot, Like you can't shoot what you got?
You got nothing? Right? You got nothing like, oh you're

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soft soft right? No left, no left right? Let him
shoot mouse in the house. Like all that stuff is
trash talking, all of it trash talking. Okay, game is
in hand, star player is at the free and by
the way, like Cavilen, Clark was actually playing good with
exceptions of the foul trouble and doing the taunting her

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the ring thing. She did it in the Elite eight whatever,
Like I didn't think but they're doing it twice to
somebody who's not paying attention to you, is not talking trash.
You're like, what are we actually doing here? So I
thought the whole thing looked like a clown show. I
think that's what most people think. I think what happens
is we get wrapped up in the well it's because

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they're women, and it's like, no, you can't. You can't
have it both ways, right. You can't say we want
to be judged on the same scale as the men
and be legitimate, and then when we say, like, hey,
if it was a dude out there, we'd say shut
the fuck up and just play basketball. Right. So, and
by the way, Angel Reese is awesome. Her brother's really

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good brothers at Maryland. She was at Maryland, she transferred out.
I I think it's taking away from the fact that
the officiating was a train wreck and really took away
from what should have been and still probably will be,
like the most watchwomen's college basketball game of all time.
But the taunting stuff like that doesn't really have a
place here. It just doesn't. This was Colin Cowherd on

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Kim Moki read some books about Bobby Knight, not the
greatest guy in the world. But yet communities supported him
until he didn't win a lot. My entire life, I
have watched male coaches be obnoxious, scream, debase athletes, and
you know what I always hear ah, But his players

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love him well, her players love Kim Molki when she
getting a book deal or four. Yes she can be
a little over the top. Yes she's anti vax You
still put your arms around Aaron Rodgers. So is he. Frankly,
so are a lot of people in America. People didn't
love her opinion or the way she handled Brittany Grinder.

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Brittney Grinder was polarizing. There were a lot of different
opinions on Brittany Grinder. Yes, she can be wrong and opinionated,
but we've always been okay with male coaches as long
as they win. And not only does she win, she
wins like nobody else. Ever, here's the deal' Colin Calherd

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has no idea what he's talking about here. I just
he's over his skis here. He just is. You know,
he's he's again. He's doing the thing that women want
to do. They want to be judged on one on
the scale. You want to be judged equal to men. Fine, okay,
here's why kim Moki left Baylor. Okay, you ready for it. Okay.

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When kim Moki won, her won the first national title
for Baylor. The president at the time, okay. The next year,
when they're making a run to the final four, I
think was he in the lead eight, he grabbed her
and said, hey, Kim, at the victory parade, when you win,
we're gonna announce we're gonna name the court after you.
And she was elated. Some thing weird happened on that

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way to a victory parade. They lost. Now, it didn't
mean they weren't going to name the court after her.
But if you know anything about Baylor, okay, Baylor, with
everything that took place in football, they got rid of
everybody at the university, in the athletic department, and even
the president all gone. So then when a new crew
comes in, none of those promises, okay, were made by

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the new administration. Still they likely would have named the
court after only here was the problem. Scott Drew won
a national title, Okay, so the plan was to name
it after both of them, which was unacceptable to Kimulke. Additionally,
a donor came in because they're building a new arena
and said, we'll give you ten million dollars for the

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naming rights to the court. In addition to that, the
city of Waco, I believe, granted them like eighty million
dollars land and tax axemptions and all this other stuff,
eighty million dollars to help build the new arena off campus.
Kim Moki wanted the arena on campus and won her
name on the court, and if it wasn't done, she

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was leaving. So this is the hard and fast stance
that she drew. Okay, And when the administration talked to boosters,
there wasn't anybody who was willing to step up and
pay ten million dollars to have Kim Molki have her
name on the court. And really nobody was sad to
see her go. The only people sad to see her

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go are the fans. That it was about winning and
winning all else. Okay, Now, she is a very good coach.
She's also helped out by the fact that LSU in
the SEC, they're big, and they're the biggest in the NIL,
especially for women's basketball. They're not the only ones. Okay,
it's not sinister. It's it's legal, but it's the reality
to it. Right. They didn't just get great players to

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transfer in and not have to sit out a year
without helping make that thing, make that thing better, right,
Obviously they got lived done. Who's the who's the single
most highly paid female athlete, you know, as she makes millions,
But part of that is because of her own brand
is so strong based upon social media, Kim Moulki okay,
her whole And the other part to the thing that

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he doesn't know is it's not about being flamboyant. Okay,
And I don't think people are arguing that she's flamboyant.
It's that you can't, on one hand say, and again,
I have been to women's college basketball games. My brother
coaches women's basketball. I'm friendly with several women's basketball coaches, Okay,

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and can tell you unequivocally none of that sideline decorum
that has taken place at time in the men's game
is acceptable in the women's game. It is not, okay. Additionally,
within the context of just this game, you can't give
Caitlin Clark a technical foul for batting a ball into

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the photographers for a delay of game and not give
a technical foul to Kim Molki, who's acting like a
fucking lunatic over there. Did you see the Iowa coach? Okay,
the calls were going against her. The player of the
year had four fouls because of some ridiculous calls and
a ridiculous technical foul. And did she batany not once.

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She didn't yell, she didn't scream, she didn't curse, she
and grab an officials. She didn't motherfuck anybody nobody. So
what Collin's doing is going, hey, Bob Knight was a
crazy person and through a chair once, so we should
Kim Moki did was Okay. I don't really have a
problem with Kim Molki's act, with the suits, with the flamboyants.
It's actually more like a like a like a dark

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side al McGuire, Okay, back in the day. The problem
is in the context of women's basketball, nobody else does it.
It's not acceptable and it wasn't acceptable within that game.
And anybody who's obtuse to that you're making comments about
shit you don't know about. I love Colin, Okay, he's
like most of America. He doesn't watch women's basketball, and
I'm sure he watched it with his wife Anne, and

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they were like, ah, and Anne is an artist and
she's hilarious and she's interesting, and I'm sure she's like
I ktta like the outfit. I kind of like the
whole thing. It's a great little side show. It's alike
like this men's coaches and you know what, they're right.
The problem is all of the context of the women's
game and that game in and of itself. And that's
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