IN THE BONUS with Doug Gottlieb

Doug talks to a star-studded roster of guests live from Radio Row at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas. Guests include; Hall of Fame LB Derrick Brooks, Patriots WR Kendrick Bourne, Giants OL Justin Pugh, Buccaneers DE Will Gholston, Jets RB Breece Hall, Jets LB Quincy Williams, and Former NFL LB Dhani Jones.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in
the Bonus with Doug gottl.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hey, what welcome in.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
I'm Doug Gottlieb and this well, this is the in
the Bonus Bonus our podcast, and usually we do a
lot of fun stuff, talk some fresh find out what's
annoying Jason Stewart.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
I still think we should do that, Jase Do.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
I feel there are definitely things that are annoying you
and we have time to do it.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
We should do your annoying. Think about that for a second.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Okay, I want to promote the fact we have an
unbelievable list of guests. And if you listen to this
pot on a daily basis, you know that our After
this pod is over, it rolls into the radio show.
So in the radio show you'll hear Steve Young you
know know this And Steve and I talked a little
bit off air, Jase do, but this is a real thing.

(00:55):
My sister and every time I see him, like, I
don't know if I should bring it up, but he remembers.
He's got a great memory. So my sister and Steve
went on a date once. But it's actually a really, really.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Really good story. You get you ready for it.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
So I think it was like Battle of the Network Stars,
do you remember that show? And they had they had
football players. It was Steve Young was on one team,
Jerry Rice was another, and I don't I it might
have been Bill Romanowski on another team. And uh it
was like, you know, a quasi like non football sports

(01:31):
competition summer show. And my sister was on it and
she actually won a motorcycle. So at some point time.
Steve was single at the time, and I think Steve
asket hero had to go to dinner and later on
they went to dinner. And the things that I know
that I was I was told about the date was
he had a jeep. Like that was like one of

(01:53):
the things like what do you pick up in he
had a jeep.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Steve Young had a jeep.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Anyway, So to this day and this that was probably probably,
oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Almost thirty years ago.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
To this day, every time I see Steve, he's like,
how's you tell your sister?

Speaker 2 (02:07):
I said, Hi, ho should do it? Whatever? And I'm like,
sheep ist do I bring it up?

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Because she ran into him like in an airport. He
was with his kids and she was with her kids
and he was like a couple hundred yards away. She's like,
do I come up and say hi? Anyway, he's among
the world's great dudes. But the crazy part about the show,
Jayce dou wait do you get this part?

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Okay? This is this is insane. So the same show.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
That she met Steve Young and went on a date
with Steve with she won a motorcycle, but she didn't
know how to ride, nor did she care to ride
a motorcycle. Right, she won a motorcycle. So at the time,
she was working for the Raiders and there was a
guy who was he was basically the liaison between the

(02:54):
team and Al Davis, and he was in quality control.
And when my sister Wendy said, hey, I have this motorcycle.
It's over on like say like the Fox Loot and
somebody's I got to get it out here to They
were in El Segundo training at the time, Like, I
don't even know how to get it here, and so
this guy like volunteered, like I know how to ride

(03:14):
a motorcycle, I'll go pick it up. I'll bring it
over for you. Do you a solid say, oh, well,
I'll buy you lunch no problem. Okay, first the guy
didn't know how to ride the motorcycle. He did get
it to the raider facility, but that ended up becoming
her now ex husband, right that that was his that
was his way in.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
So what's crazy is.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
That she ended up good like you, she dated Steve
Young once and but she ended up meeting her husband
because of the same the same show. It was crazy, right,
whereas you go on blind date, you go on on
an actual dating show and you got nothing to show
for it other than the fact that it was really
really funny.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
Such as well, right, that's how life.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Worked, such as life that just not just love and
never come when you expect it. Yeah, I will tell
you that again, this is not usually what we do
super Week. I had so much fun hanging out with
Cavino and Rich yesterday. Like, I had so much fun
hanging out with those guys. And it's really really interesting

(04:15):
that when I started in this business in two thousand
and two and I was at ESPN, what was really
cool about it is And I'll kind of paint the picture.
It's like almost like a Mayberry, Like I used to
roll up and my show was on at seven at
night and Eric Cassilius and his brother had a show

(04:36):
that preceded ours, and I would get there sometimes at
like three o'clock because I would have other things to do,
and like we'd be throwing the football around the parking
lot and talking and you know between and I have
a lifetime friendship with Dan, who I ended up when
I moved up in the dial Dan Dan and Colin
used to be used to be calling the not Dan
then Colin, like it is now at Fox. Anyway, it

(04:57):
was great then because we did all relatively no each
other and like each other and get a chance to
hang out at times on campus there and that's kind
of what we had last night right where you got me,
You Covino, Rich Dan Byer and we were talking. I mean,
I can't believe the things that you and they had
to say about our bosses. I had only good things

(05:17):
to say about our bosses. I mean, it was I
was just I was like, thank God, there's no recordings
of what you're saying about people that you know are
going to be able to.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Decide whether or not you work for a living. I'm kidding,
of course.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
Now.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
It was a good time, and it's one of the
things about the Super Bowl, which having done this now
this is the eleventh time I look forward to It's
like our reunion for all media people, and most of
us have come across each other during some time in
life and now we're in a different place and we
get to catch up and it really is like a

(05:49):
like a media radio TV reunion.

Speaker 6 (05:52):
We all have like I don't know, I'm sure you
have more than I do, but we all have work acquaintances.
We both know a ton of people. But to actually
have these much where we could sit down and actually
know the people and meet the people and know their families,
that's that's the best part of Super Bowl. And I
do have to say this for our listeners. Doug picked
up the bill very generous. I mean he might expense it,

(06:14):
but it was very generous. I had at least three martinis.
I mean, it was just it was it was great.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
We put it on the Underhill account, right, That's what
we did. We put it in the Underhill GWN.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Do people know when I say Underhill account that they
know what that hope?

Speaker 5 (06:26):
So I hope nobody ever forget that one.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
If you were going to.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
I actually know the answer to this, but I'm gonna.
I'm going to ask you the question if you remake
Fletch who stars as Fletch, if you remake Fletch who
stars as Fletch.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
Well, they just remade it, they did. John Hamm was Fletch.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Who just remade it? It's out, Yeah, John ham Jeremy,
thank you? And I where can I watch it?

Speaker 5 (06:56):
I have not. I have not seen it because I
kind of don't want to.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
The first I thought, I thought Vince Vaughn should be Fletch.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
He'd be great too.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
I think Vin Vonn should Fletch. Wait, so there's a
there's a move. Wait, there's a new Fletch.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
It came out maybe after COVID or something.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, oh, twenty twenty two Fletch. John Hamm, Sammy, you're
not going to sing to us?

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Are it's not crazy?

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Uh? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (07:23):
What are we doing here for rotten? How many rotten tomatoes?
Six point five?

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Man? Fletch?

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (07:30):
I had no idea. I do, like John Hamm, I
don't want to say it.

Speaker 7 (07:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (07:34):
The first one is too important to me. I don't
want to do anything to taint that.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
That is uh, that is Fletch. All right, coming up,
on the podcast. UH Derek Brooks will join us. I've
known Derek for a long, long long time. We'll talk
about his Super Bowl win, his pick six, but also
some of his good works off the field. I think
you'll love my discussion with Patrick, who met with Kendrick
Bourne of the formerly of the New Eland Patriots, is
a free agent.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
He tours acl this year. He was having a rear
year before before he heard his knee.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Will Goldston, Justin Pugh, bries Hall, and Quincy Williams are
going to join us. Plus the Honey Jones, one of
the one of the brightest, most enjoyable guys when he played.
Now done playing. Wait to hear what he's doing with
at risk kids in a restaurant in Dallas.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
It's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
That's all that's upcoming here in the Doug Gotlieg Show podcast.
It's just an honor to be joined by a guy
who's not only a Hall of Famer on the field,
but also off the field. Of course, he's the former
UH Walter Payton Man of the Year in the NFL,
and he has a gold jacket, and he's a Super
Bowl champion, and he's here on behalf of Little Caesars.

Speaker 8 (08:37):
Yes I am, Yes, I have Doug as part of
our Little Caesar being the official piece of sponsor of
the NFL, is having a promotion here doing for a
Super Bowl called the Pick six Slices His Sticks Challenge.

Speaker 9 (08:53):
And I like this because you know this is centered around.

Speaker 8 (08:56):
Defensive performance, right, the six exactly exactly? So, uh, the
challenge is everyone to download the Little Caesars apps, go on,
accept the challenge it. Once you accept the challenge, now
you gotta spin a little bit of coin, all right,
you gotta you gotta order it, right, It's not that expensive.
So once you you order it, then you enter into

(09:18):
the contest and then you sit back. No matter what
team you're rooting for, you root for a defensive player
to have a pick six in the Super Bowl and
then you're in a chance to win.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
You know, it's interesting when you won your Super Bowl,
that was one of the last of the blowout games,
right because because when we were when we were kids,
super Bowls were blowouts. A lot of them are bad games.
I was in the stands that day in San Diego.
When did you know, like, because obviously you know you
had Gruden. Gruden knew the offense, they had lost their

(09:52):
starting center. But it felt really early on like you knew,
but when did you know?

Speaker 8 (09:57):
Like we got you know, it looked at from the outside.
And yes, always make the point, Doug, when this is
brought up to say coach Grewden, it wasn't necessarily by
him knowing their offense. Coach grew knew the personalities of
that team and their offensive players, you know, starting with

(10:17):
Risk Ginn and Charlie Gunn or Jared Rice, you know,
all the way down to Porter the receivers, Tim Tim Brown, etc.
He knew how they would react to certain situations that
we presented, and that was our advantage, and we practiced that, like, hey,
let's simulate these environments so you guys will see these

(10:37):
reactions and we'll respond on game day.

Speaker 9 (10:41):
And that's pretty much what happened.

Speaker 7 (10:43):
Now.

Speaker 8 (10:44):
Early on, you know, our defense was dominating, no doubt
about it. In our offense was scoring because he knew
the personalize of their defense. But going in the halftime,
we did not know at any point that this was done.
None of us have never been there, you know. They
were the experience, had the experience. We didn't, So it
was all about, Hey, we're coming out zero zero and

(11:06):
true enough, we said that at halftime the Raiders are
going to respond.

Speaker 9 (11:12):
Let's be ready to handle the wave when they do it.

Speaker 8 (11:14):
And they came out third quarter, got back into the game, scored,
block punt, big touchdown of a porter, hell of a
catch at the end of the end zone.

Speaker 9 (11:23):
They're coming.

Speaker 8 (11:24):
I felt that the game was over when I scored,
when I had my pick six going in the end zone,
that's what I say, Hey, it's done.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
We're champs.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
What's that feeling like?

Speaker 7 (11:35):
To be?

Speaker 2 (11:36):
One of the greatest feelings in.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Sports if you haven't played football, is when as a
little kid whatever, you go around the edge and there's
just you and grass and the end zone, right and.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
You can just hear your own breath. You don't hear
your own breaths. But I don't think anyone, any of
us have done it in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yeah, what's that feeling like?

Speaker 8 (11:54):
I was just telling myself, don't fall, don't fall, don't fall.
That's about got As soon as I saw the play happening,
I broke. I said. You know, my mind was like,
I got him. I got him. You know that's me too,
I got I got riskain I got him. So when
I caught it, it was don't fall, don't fall, don't fall,
don't fall, don't fall. So it got in the end zone, man,

(12:16):
and then my teammates, you know, started jumping on me.
I started using some other words to tell me to
get off me because I couldn't breathe. But I got up, Man,
A great feeling once I got up, holding that ball up,
looked at that scoreboard.

Speaker 9 (12:29):
I knew then that we were going to be champs.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
You've accomplished a lot of amazing things off the field
as well, and obviously your yearly trips to Africa are
well documented, and all of the good works that you've
done throughout the country, especially in your hometown. How did
you find time to balance that because you were you
were still doing that while you were playing, and you
were a great player. How'd you find the ability to
balance that?

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (12:52):
Because it was a priori Doug with TOAs Dungee took
over this football team back then in nineteen ninety six,
it was all about, Hey, we're gonna go serve the community.
That's what this is gonna be about. We're gonna win
our fresh are games, but we're gonna be a team
that the community can be proud of us. So they're
proud of us no matter what that Schooboard says, and

(13:15):
we do enough for those We'll never lose a game
because we winning in the game of life. Coach Dungee
instilled that into us very because we were young, impressiable, talented,
but he directed that in that way and that's the
approach that I've always taken. So because it's been a priority,
I've always had that support structure star Coach Judge even

(13:36):
when Coach Gruden became head coach.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
As a leader.

Speaker 8 (13:40):
Matter of fact, Coach Gruden he would get on me
more if he saw or felt I wasn't doing what
I needed to do in that part because he felt
that was such a big part of my leadership of
the team. Man, he was on me a harder than
what Coach Dungee was just in terms of serving the community.
So it was a priority still is, you know a

(14:01):
priority now with my partnership with mister de Bolo in
the high school that we own, so Debrok Sherry's man,
we're still influencing kids and you through the through the
realm of education.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
You guys never got back right.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, that's the crazy part about the Chiefs is that
they keep coming, keep being able to come back here.
Lots of teams have made it and you guys were
dominant and you won one and you still.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Had a good bit of the core.

Speaker 9 (14:27):
Oh we did.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
And there's hall of famers littered throughout it. Yeah, why
is it so difficult to come back?

Speaker 8 (14:32):
Well, I think for us, what the lesson I learned
is we never went back to the bottom of the mountain,
and we should have. We thought we were staying at
the top end defending versus we at the bottom of
the mountain and we climbing. We never it never clicked
with me personally or even our team, and probably halfway
into the season. And now we now once it clicked,

(14:54):
we going to five game winning streak and have depend
on the other teams, YadA, YadA, YadA, and missed the playoffs.
That's why I think it's so hard. So when teams win,
I think nam ntality. So many understand that, and a
lot Doug does not go into enough credit to these
two teams that they're just two years ago, they're back

(15:18):
here again.

Speaker 9 (15:19):
So decline to get back here.

Speaker 8 (15:22):
A lot of people not giving these two I mean
they're talking about the game itself, but to your point, man,
to go through the grind again and stay in it.
And I think both teams, even though they've gone through
some changes, Kansas City has been able to keep fifteen
eighty seven ninety five, they're still there. San Francisco has

(15:44):
been able to evolve since that team that they had,
sure the system, more playmakers, dynamic play calling defense. I
think forty nine ers defense is a lot better now
than they were in the first matchup.

Speaker 9 (15:57):
So I think just give credit to those guys.

Speaker 8 (16:00):
Able to go through that evolution and rent not rent
fitting themselves, but making that climb again.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Okay, so the pick six for slices and sticks, what
happens if there's a here.

Speaker 8 (16:10):
Here's the thing I want to happen is I want
a defensive player to win.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
The m v P.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
And win the m v P most probably would have
been a couple of years ago, and then obviously the fourth.

Speaker 10 (16:22):
Quarter, but now I gotta I gotta put my market
he had on r I want them to win it
by a pick six. Okay, So now I check all
those boxes in our little seasons, happy all a defensive
player win it in obviously, I ain't gonna say obviously,
but I am picking the forty nine ers to win.
So one of those linebackers, you know, you know, either

(16:45):
fred or Dre win it. Then I'd even be super
even super more excited because the linebacker did it.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Drake Greenlaw gets it. Nobody's catching him. The same thing
with Frederick.

Speaker 8 (16:54):
And now I'm trying to last week when he had
had the picks, I'm like Dre's situational foot ball.

Speaker 10 (17:00):
Get down, yes, get down what you try.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
He was trying to win, trying to win the MVY bud,
trying to hit the pick six Chalunds from from from
Little Caesars.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
I appreciate your time as always.

Speaker 8 (17:11):
Oh and that can I give you some flowers too, Man.
I love listening to you. Man, you're all over at
college basketball. Uh, I want you, Hey, I want you.
Here's my dog horse us F South Florida.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yes, I mean a mirror is a great You want
to talk about a guy who fits in line with
how you live your life and doing the right things
off the court as well.

Speaker 8 (17:34):
Here's a dude, man, he is he's got, he's got
is excited down there in Tampa another another comeback win
last night against Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Hey, I see the people in the building too.

Speaker 9 (17:43):
Yeah, we go to exactly exactly we're there. We're robbery,
so usf man, just just keep you off.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
That's a good tip. Derek is the best man.

Speaker 9 (17:53):
I appreciate you join us.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Thanks so much for little Caesars for lett us have
Derek Brooks for a minute, stuck got leap show here
on Fox Sports Radio. And and what does he know
about a super Bowl? Well he played in Super Bowl
with the Niners against the Chiefs, and of course plays
for the Patriots. Now he's Kendrick Barney joins us here
in the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Trader. We're
having a little acl discussion here, right, okay. So, and
I again like, if you seem like you're in a
good place about it. So if if it's bringing up

(18:16):
a bad memory you don't want to talk about, I
get it. But okay, so take me through. So okay,
I'll take you through my again. This is old man basketball, right,
And I started to get competitive, and I was just like,
I'm just gonna shoot threes.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
And then the guys started getting up on me.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
I went by him, and then I tried to do
one of those like jump stop and go over the top.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Of a guy, and I just heard my knee pop, and.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
I was I think I was most upset that I
wasted an ACL tear on a shitty.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Adult league game.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Really right, like like you did it in an NFL game, right,
Like that's cool if you do it in the super
Bowl like OBJ last year or was it two years.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Ago in the Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Like that's cool, right that there's something kind of heroic
about nothing heroic about being in your four he tearing
your ACL.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
How did you do yours?

Speaker 4 (19:02):
It's funny.

Speaker 11 (19:03):
So you say, you know you wasted it on like
a basketball game. Yeah, I was mad I did it
on grass. I wish I did it on turn so
I could, you know, kind of keep the debate going
about that. But I actually got tackle. Man was thirty
nine and we were losing Man to Miami, and I
caught I caught like an out route right before the line,
and I kind of came back down here to catch

(19:24):
the ball, and uh, the guy kind of just twisted
me eli apole.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
He twisted me.

Speaker 11 (19:28):
I tried to turn up field to get the first
down and he kind of twisted me down, and like
you said, George popped. I heard the pop and it
was it was just scruciat and I've never experienced it before.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
My first time.

Speaker 11 (19:37):
Obviously, I got hurt in eighth grade. I fractioned my
tiva before, but that was my first big injury. When
you get hurt eighth grade, it was football football, Yeah,
fraction my tiva, same kind of thing, got twisted, my
foot got planned it and I got twisted up, tackled.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
Funny man, So it is just an unfortunate thing, man.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
So what goes through your mind?

Speaker 3 (19:54):
You're laying there on the field and like this is
it's a whole different d Like you're in a super
competitive sport, right, this is your job. Your body is everything,
and you realize you probably tore your ratl What do
you recall about those moments when they're tending to you.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
It's so funny, man.

Speaker 11 (20:14):
So now I replay a player all the time, Like, man,
why he didn't just push me at a bound in
a nounsense, But in the moment, I was just like
I knew it popped.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
I knew I was hurt, I knew I was done.

Speaker 11 (20:23):
I just like never felt a pain like that song,
I knew I'm done and so I was able to
walk off the field, which was encouraging. So I'm like, oh, kid,
might just be mcm might just be something light, you know,
got in the locker room and it was just it
got sore and sore and swoll up. So it just
was very disappointed. I was having a great year. I
was on my way to having my best year. So
that was the hard part and it was just an

(20:44):
unfortunate situation.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
It's interesting that no one points that out about the
Patriots offense, right, no one has said and I'm only
and I'm not saying just defend the Patriots. I said
this about Cliff Kingsbury, right when when Arizona went to
the playoffs, We're like, well they were terrible in the playoffs, Like, yeah,
well DeAndre Hopkins didn't play. You know, like, you lose
one of your two or three biggest weapons, you're a

(21:06):
different football team. How much did the Patriots change after
you got hurt?

Speaker 11 (21:10):
So that statistic was that I kept leading the team
a receiver. But you know, I don't really look at
it like that, man, I think it was opportunity those
for those guys to get better. Man, I think everything
happens for a reason. I really think like that. So
for me to go down, it was for somebody's opportunity
to show it. So so as a you know, veteran,
it was a blessing that I got injured in year
seven instead of year one. I think I'd be really

(21:33):
you asked me how it was through the moment. If
I was in year one, I'd probably be like traumatized,
maybe like in a different person because I haven't built
the resume. So to get hurt in year seven, you know,
I got a little resume behind me, a little people
know me. So it was kind of it wasn't okay
for me to get hurt, but it was okay because
I was a season vet. So it was an opportunity
for the young guys. But I think they definitely missed

(21:55):
my presence.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Okay, let's let's get to this game. Because you played
in this game. What do you remember playing Super Bowl?

Speaker 11 (22:03):
I remember I led the team in receiving yards, which
was funny. I actually got a story. So so the
meeting before the game, you know, I was like the
third third receiver.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
The night before the game, the night.

Speaker 11 (22:17):
Before the game, we had a we had a team meeting, okay,
you know, going over the last few details Saturday night,
and Kyle Shanahan he's like, he's like born, I don't know.
For some reason, the way this game I play out,
you might be the MVP of the game. And and
it was just crazy to hear me. I'm like, yo,
I'm kind of like think I'm dreaming. I'm like, bro, MVP,
this is crazy. And but he was so serious and

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the way the game played out, like I told you,
I led the team receiving, but you know, Jimmy's game
and how I win it was it was rough, he
didn't make some of the right reads. But the way
the game should have played out, I honestly felt like
I should have been an MVP.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Okay, so let's let's let's talk. So let's talk about
Jimmy because first half, you guys are killing him. Yes,
nobody can block Posa. No, I mean, he's just the animal.
And then it started get tight and then Jimmy, there
was a couple I mean I think the was it
Emmanuel Sanders in the end zone yep, the last one.
So so we'll work our way to some of the
other ones. But again, help the layman out. Okay, you're

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the expert with the layman. What I was told is like,
that's a throw where you know you've been waiting all game.
It's an explosive and you only get a couple of
shots a game. But the big thing was it wasn't
that he missed. Is that he missed long and you're
supposed to if you miss miss short, Yes, right, because
then there's p I or he can come back and
get us.

Speaker 7 (23:29):
That fair.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
That's very fair.

Speaker 11 (23:31):
So I think it was a build up of the
whole game. So he was missing certain reads, missing things.
So if he would have hit certain points in the
game before that throw, like a kiddle on the.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Third down when we were up ten and a.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Couple other throws, kittle was yes. I remember that.

Speaker 11 (23:46):
I was thinking yes, So he missed that throw because
it was just I don't know how he felt inside.
He wasn't confident, so you know that confidence goes down.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
It's tough. So I mean, I think that's why you missed.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Okay, So is it is it too big a statement
to say, I'm sure you guys didn't bail on Jimmy.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Okay, but the coach is like that ain't gonna that
ain't gonna work.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
Yeah, yeah, it just it wasn't the right fit.

Speaker 11 (24:14):
Jimmy had a great he has a great career still,
he's still playing. I love the guy, man, I honestly do.
But uh what Kyle and him, I think it just
it just wasn't ton no more. You see Brock now
and how he's doing it, I think that's that's a
better fit for the to the duo that they are.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Okay, but but Brock is he's little, he doesn't have
a huge army. Now, he does make plays with legs
and he's really really accurate. I guess the question like
you're looking across to the other dude, and the other
dude like literally checks every box right. Mahomes can make
every throw, can run, is big, I can can put
it wherever it needs to be put, super bright, tough,
whatever it does.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Brock have enough of the tangibles to win this game.

Speaker 11 (24:52):
I think the big thing about Bronck is getting he
doesn't pass the eye test.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
So you know, the eye tests in the NFL is big.

Speaker 11 (24:58):
How you look, how you seem everything, and so he
definitely doesn't have everything Patrick has. But I think I
like the underdog story, so that's that's what I'm going with.
But he just has to make the right the right reads.
He has to make. There can't be any mistakes. So
Patrick can make mistakes and still win. I don't think
Brock can make as many mistakes. He probably can make
a couple, but that's gonna be the difference.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
I know it's been a minute since you've been there.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
But one of the cool things about NFL teams NBA
teams is there's a lot of other people that people
don't recognize. Give me somebody who you're you want the
Niners to win the Super Bowl. Not for the stars,
but for that's my dude, that's my he's equipment guy, coach,
somebody who's there who when you were there, You're like, man.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
I really like that guy. I hope he I hope
he does well.

Speaker 11 (25:43):
Honestly, Kyle Shanahan, I seriously say that he gave him
my first opportunity, not just to you know, a cliche answer,
but he he would gave me first opportunity. He taught
me a lot so and he's been struggling. I don't
think he's won a super Bowl yet. Obviously he's had
two losses, so I would love to see him win.
You know, he's always in Coach of the Year polls
and all that stuff, So it would be dope to

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see him win.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Man and former wide receiver in Texas.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
But by the way, okay, so to this point, you
played on Bill Belichick's last team.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Wow, I didn't let me thinking about that. What was
what's the experience like playing for him?

Speaker 4 (26:20):
It was awesome?

Speaker 11 (26:20):
Man taught me a lot, same thing I say about Kyle.
They go down in my in my Special People Hall
of Fame, in my heart. Man, they you know, they
helped me change my life. Bill Belichick gave me my
first contract. You know, he believed in me, So I
got a special place in my heart for him.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Man.

Speaker 11 (26:34):
And uh, just everything he taught me from being detailed
and and I became a better player and a better
person in life because of that man.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
And he has so much knowledge and wisdom. So that's why.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
So what's what's next year looked like for you?

Speaker 11 (26:45):
So I'm just going in the free agency, man, seeing
what's gonna have. You know, they're gonna use my knee
against me and probably see a lot of one year
deals prove it deals, but uh, I'm looking for a
multi year deal. I want to grow with the team.
I want to help build something that is gonna be
great later on. I've been through with the Niners. I've
been through kind of a rebuild with them, and then
they you know, they reached the dynasty kind of mode.

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And I feel like the Patriots going through whenever went
through a rebuild with me and me being there, and
so they might take off. So I don't want to
miss that because I'm missing the Niners right now. I'm
missing then they went to.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
The Okay, so so so help me out. Let's say
the money is relatively the same. Okay, there's one that's
a complete rebuild and they got young wide receivers.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
You're supposed to be the VET and it's maybe a
two year deal.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
There's a prove it on a team that's a playoff
caliber team, but you probably have to be a number
three right and then and then there's like the there's
an opportunity that has more money for one year. Okay,
but you don't love the system.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
How do you how do you balance that? Like? Do
you just go most money? You just go best culture?

Speaker 1 (27:55):
You?

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Like, how do you how do you balance.

Speaker 11 (27:57):
That's a great question and a great way to break
it down because that's some of the things we players
deal with. So it's the money is always appealing because
the money is it's gonna set up my life. So
if I go to the money, But for me, it's
not all about the money. I'm kind of like Jalen Hurts.
I want to win championships. Money is cool, but the
championships are better. Like that is a great statement because

(28:17):
I want the whole bundle. So if it's a three
year and I can get a good amount of money,
solid team, and be able to have a roll, a
good role, I'll take that. But if it's a one year,
a lot of money, but I don't you know, I
don't I might, I might not be there next year.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
I don't know. So I want the whole bundle package.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Right, every everybody wants everything, but the problem is it
usually doesn't present itself.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
You're back running, No, So I'm not running yet. I've
been doing a lot of rehab. I can I can?
I can actually run? Is the stopping So I haven't
ran yet?

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Hell, how far out of you?

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Five months?

Speaker 2 (28:51):
A certain because you know, I'm sure you research this thing.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
There's that like two to four months where the ligament
dies and then regenerates right the danger zone. You're out
of the danger zone now, seat bad exactly. So my
pet's been doing good. Man, We've been on a consistent schedule.
It's tough, Man, it's tough. It's a different kind of
work ethic for me. Man, And just being patient with
my knee.

Speaker 11 (29:11):
I just had a newborns on being patient with my
new born. Yeah, and it's teaching me a lot. So
I love the challenge. This baby's name Kavilla Malani born.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Malanni born Well January nineteenth. How'd you come up with Caville?

Speaker 11 (29:23):
So my name starts with decay, My wife's name starts
with a V, and we just I guess via a
Fox Sports.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Baby congratulates you and your wife. Thanks so much for
joining us. We'll see in a football field next year.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Stuck Gottleep show here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Justin Pugh kind of have to stop by his life
going kind of full circle right, starts with the Giants,
goes off to Arizona, makes a bunch of money, comes back.
Now he's now now he's back in the slog of
it with with the giants. He's joined us on half
of love Sack. Let's let's get that out of the way,
because the love sack is actually a super cool, comfortable,
like furnishing thing. Did you did you get the whole
set up at the house.

Speaker 12 (29:58):
Yeah, I got the whole set up at the house.

Speaker 13 (29:59):
Obviously all started when I said straight off the couch
playing on Sunday night football. They're like, well, what couch
were you sitting on? I was sitting on a love
sick So the partnership was born. The Long brothers help
facilitate it. So I got to give a shout out
to them, and they're coming out of the new stealth teck.
It's like a couch where you sit in when you
have the stereos, the subwolfers, you have the wireless charging.
My I just had a two week My daughter's two

(30:19):
weeks old, just had her so the in laws are
staying there. Josephine Joey nice. So you can convert it
to a queen's size badge. She spits up on it,
your throat in the wash, you put it back on.
So love sack is unbelievable to him. Great for my family.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
You mentioned kind of straight off this couch and to
play it on Sunday night football, But how do you like?
The hardest thing I found when I got out of
playing professionally is like motivating yourself, you know, because I
mean your whole life, you know, growing up in Pennsylvania,
then going to Syracuse and then in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
You always have a team, you always have time.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Hey man, we're going at least there's a teammate to
get you to go to the gym, even when it's
not like a scheduled thing. How'd you find ways to
motivate yourself when you weren't in the league.

Speaker 13 (30:56):
My wife is a fitness instructor, so she was going
and teaching all these workout classes and I would come
back and I'm sitting there on the couch eating chips
or a sandwich or whatever. So I started going and
doing her workout classes. They were like hit workout classes.
I've never done them before. I was getting my butt kicked.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
And you like her music or you're like, you gotta
change your music.

Speaker 13 (31:14):
There's a lot of women in the class, so there
was some like some of the music choices weren't what
I would have picked.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
Yeah, you should do like a hardcore like gangster rap
sort of class hit class for her, like I'll do
your playlist, you just do you just do the exercise.

Speaker 12 (31:27):
Well, we're about to get back into it.

Speaker 13 (31:28):
She just had the baby, so she has to wait
that like five or six week period and then we're
going to get back into it. So I want to
do something cool if I do end up retiring, because
there's still a chance I might play. But one day
I want to do like a triathlon where you got
to really test yourself.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Well, most of you guys, like I've been told offensive lineman,
like okay, you're supposed to like that first six months,
you got to lose all the weight.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, otherwise you'll never lose it.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
Right?

Speaker 7 (31:47):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Is that what you guys want?

Speaker 13 (31:48):
You either get super fast or we get like we
look like we're starvation, like feeded, like Chris Knee. If
you've seen Chris, his head is still massive, but you
get this little body.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
Right.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Nick Hardwick is a guy in San Diego who who
does media stuff Like he's still all tatted up. It
looks like he's a triathlete as well. So were you
working that way? Were you working towards being thin, I.

Speaker 13 (32:08):
Thought I was done. I tore my ACL, so I
was rehabbing the ACL. I was like, I'm gonna work
on the golf game. I'm in Arizona. You know I'm
about to just got married, have a kid. And then
you know, you get that itch. You missed the guys,
you miss being around it. I have been working for
a commercial developer in real estate for the last three offsets,
So I go do that in the mornings, or I
work out in the mornings, go do that in the afternoons.
And what better place to continue to grow to the

(32:28):
network than New York. So New York was not only
to go back and finish my career where I started,
it's the network. I learned this from Larry Fitzgerald. Every
Tuesday he would go meet with somebody. Justin Tuck did
the same thing. So I was just following their examples
and it couldn't have gone better for me in New York.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
Okay, let me ask you a couple of things, since
we don't know if you're coming back or maybe you
go into the media. You played for Kingsbury, now he's
gonna be call him plays for Washington.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Does that work? Does his style of play calling, of offense.

Speaker 13 (32:54):
Does it work one hundred percent? Guys will be open.
I will guarantee you that. Look what Kyler was able
to do. Now, I think there's some more interesting buzz.
What's gonna happen in the draft? It feels very early
similar to when we had Josh Rosen and then we
bring in Kyler Murray. The Commanders have the second overall pick,
but you bring in Cliff Kingsbury.

Speaker 12 (33:11):
He left it Vegas.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
He was to work with Caleb Williams.

Speaker 12 (33:15):
I think that makes a lot of sense. Can they
make it happen?

Speaker 4 (33:17):
Though?

Speaker 13 (33:18):
Uh, what do you got to give up to move
from two to one? I don't know if that's where
I think.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
A lot, especially if you're in Chicago. Now Chicago's sitting
on two first round picks. But I don't know a ton.
You know, they have that card that tells you how
much you're supposed to move, but Caleb seems like even
more valuable than that card to people because he's that
level of prospect. You play with Kyler it did feel like,
but again this is outside looking in that all the
discussion about his work ethic, it felt like he was

(33:43):
more locked in more engaged this year than he was
before he got hurt.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Is that fair?

Speaker 13 (33:47):
I think he's always been locked in. He's a great competitor,
He's always want to go out there and win. His
talent has always been the best on any field that
he's ever Okay.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
So, but why did the narrative get out that he
didn't he'd like to play call of duty?

Speaker 2 (33:58):
He didn't like to work.

Speaker 13 (33:59):
I think guy in the NFL likes to play golf duty.
I like the golf, and no one gave me a
hard time about the golf. But I mean, what happens
is if you're playing quarterback, you're gonna get the highest
piece of the scrutiny. So obviously there was the piece
in the contract that talked about the gaming, and that
just makes the conversation go even further. The media runs
with it, and he's got to put those fires out
all season long. He came back this year and showed

(34:20):
he's the franchise quarterback. This coming season, he's gonna have
a full year and it really is going to show
what he can do or there's gonna be a decision
to be made.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Okay, for you, what would bring you back to the game.

Speaker 13 (34:31):
I want to play for the New York Giants. It's
obviously I don't want to just keep being a mercenary
hopping around. There's no offense to like the forty nine
Ers of the Chiefs. There's no benefit for me going
to play for one of those teams unless I wanted
to just chase a ring. But I want to go finish.
When I started, I wanted to start something in the
offensive line room for the New York Giants that I
learned from guys like christ Ney, David Dial, Kevin Booth.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
But but you know how this world works, though, right
Cliffs down there in Washington, you know he's gonna call.

Speaker 12 (34:55):
You Ben mcadoo's in New England.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Those are guys that you've worked with before, and how
it works is just like in business, all those connections.
They're gonna call you. You're gonna say.

Speaker 13 (35:03):
No, Well, look, if the Giants are offering the vet
minimum and the Commanders are offering something a little bit more,
that we have to have a conversation. But I also
been fortunate enough to play his game for eleven years.
If I want to walk away and go, you know,
enjoy my time with my family and work on my
golf game and work on the real estate a little bit.

Speaker 12 (35:18):
Maybe come sit up here with you once in a while.
Every time we'll make it happen.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
You know, you're welcome at time. It's lovesack dot com.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
We've done some stuff with love Sack and you may
not swear by it, but you're in law swear by
because they're currently sleeping on your couch.

Speaker 12 (35:29):
Right, they're not gonna leave.

Speaker 13 (35:31):
I gotta put one in their house now, So love
Sack's gotta put one in their house.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Perfect stuff. Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 12 (35:35):
Thanks, I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports. Ready, let's welcome in.
Will Golseny joins us, and will I know you like
you lost your dad and your uncle to cancer, right,
I lost my dad to cancer. And the difference in
the two of us is you're doing something about it.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Hey, you're you're.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Doing some bet what uh why are you here in
terms of fighting cancer?

Speaker 14 (36:00):
Like you said, I lost my father, uncle, my mom's
been battling. One of my uncles survived though, so but
just to promote knowledge, to prompt it, to get people
to go out and get tests, to get screened, uh,
to break some fear, especially in my community, the black community,
because like it's a stigma on going to the doctor.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Why.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
I have no idea. I think it's something about toughness.

Speaker 14 (36:22):
Man, it's built into it to try to be tough, great,
bite the nail, keep you on.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
It's kind of similar Like my dad he was sick
for like a year.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
He didn't even tell me, like, dude, really yeah, like really,
but it's a it's a weird thing that it's like
you're not showing a weakness by saying, hey, something I
doesn't feel right. But for whatever reason, there is that
stigma to do it in there.

Speaker 14 (36:45):
But think about this, how many times are you comfortable
with having this conversation about cancer with another dude? Like
especially like my father had prostate cancer, so he wasn't
open enough to be like, hey, man, something's going on.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
We need to go to a doctor. What do you think?
It's not a it's not well.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Guys don't have that level of conversations anyway, right, I
know we need to, but we we There's all kinds
of different things that guys like we don't you ask
women like, oh you guys talk about like no, yeah,
we don't we talk about football exactly. Football is way
anyway here on behalf of the ACS. It's American Cancer
sciity of the NFL's Crucial Catch campaign, which works to

(37:21):
promote the risk reduction early detection.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
In other words, just like prostate.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Cancer, go get checked, Get screen, Go get screen. It
really is like, you know, once you're over forty, you
got to get the test done, right, but then you
got to get the blood. You should get your blood
testing done every year, and then you do it. You're like,
that's it, Like, yeah, that's it. Just run a planet
on your blood. It's really quick, man, it's really really quick.

(37:45):
Tell them about you personally, What did you think your year?

Speaker 14 (37:48):
I think it was productive. I think my role changed,
went from a starter to be in a backup. But
we got a lot of young guys and they were rolling.
If you got a chance to watch us.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
But what's that like?

Speaker 6 (37:57):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (37:57):
As? I mean, honestly, in terms of the emotional rewards.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
For it, it's good for me.

Speaker 14 (38:04):
Like the type of man that I am, it is
amazing to be able to see somebody go from practice
and translate that to the game and know that you
had somewhat of a little effect on it.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Really so you love that role, don't you want to
be out there doing it more?

Speaker 4 (38:17):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (38:17):
When I get the opportunity, Now, yeah, the switch is
flicked when I get on the field. But it's I
don't know what it is about it, but just seeing
like the young guys that came in. Yeah, I saw
them when they weren't the best, when they were real rookies,
and then to see them transform into like real NFL.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Players, It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
How long does that take?

Speaker 4 (38:38):
It depends.

Speaker 14 (38:38):
I think it depends on all of the different circumstances
you come into the game with.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
So there's no like week four, week six that they
you can see the change.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
You can see it flip.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
It's when you get that second win. You hit a
rookie wall for sure.

Speaker 14 (38:51):
You're coming right from college, right to camp, right the preseason,
right to the season, and then for us, we went
right to the playoffs. So once you pass that Ricky wall,
that Mintland knowing like, oh I belong here, I can
do this.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
This guy's winning.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
What's Baker like?

Speaker 4 (39:05):
Amazing?

Speaker 14 (39:06):
Bro, He's one of the coolest guys I've ever met,
Real down to earth, real genuine guy, super competitive.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
Like I'll walk through a dark alley with that guy?

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Why is it that everybody says that, Like, what is
it about him?

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Like he because he's not like, he's not six five
sixty six, he doesn't run a four to four right.
He throws a good but let's not act like he
throws the best ball in the NFL. But it's the
it's the that kind of quarterback. Get behind me and
I can, I can, I can lead us, make you
believe sort of thing. What is it like in a
daily basis that makes guy? So many guys feel that way?

Speaker 14 (39:38):
For me, I can say that I like a guy
who I know gonna knuckle up when it's time to
knuckle up, and he's not gonna shy away from that.
So it's easy to follow somebody like.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
That for me.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Okay, what was Brady like?

Speaker 4 (39:49):
He was?

Speaker 14 (39:51):
Man, that's somewhat in the same I would say, like
I would knuckle up with Bay.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Have you by the way you've been doing this?

Speaker 9 (39:57):
I think?

Speaker 2 (39:57):
But eleven years in the league, can you go through
all the different quarterbacks?

Speaker 4 (40:01):
I think I can tell you every single quarterback and
play with.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Oh wait, let's let's do this. Let let's have a
little fun. Hontlet please bring out the Tampa page. That
a little bit football ferends. Give me one second, just
I just want to make sure I get I get it,
get it right. Okay, Okay, So you're draft from twenty thirteen.
So you came in, Okay and love he was your
coach your first year. Right, Nope, he wasn't great. Gian

(40:26):
Seana was your first year first, yes, sir, Now he
he wanted every room at sixty eight degrees?

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Is that right?

Speaker 4 (40:31):
It was not a joke.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
It was a so you you come out of Michigan State, yep,
and you come and they're like, hey, man, this dude
likes every room in fifty sixty eight degrees?

Speaker 4 (40:41):
Can I be honest?

Speaker 14 (40:42):
Another thing that I could share that my bed was
tilted or my feet were automatically elevated, and I had
no idea what was going on for like the first
I'm not gonna complain.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. Yeah, but that
was mandated by the coach.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
I don't think it was mandated.

Speaker 14 (40:56):
I just think it was just a sports science before
sports science got real.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
Bit yeah, Superman too.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
So you had your your foot elevator or.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
My bed was sloped and my feet was elevator, but.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Your bed was sloped down and then your feet were up,
so my head was down. What was the purpose of that?

Speaker 4 (41:11):
I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Didn't ask why don't you be lightheaded when you wake up?

Speaker 4 (41:14):
I didn't ask a single question. Man, that came to
work to work?

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Okay, So your quarterback your first year, great shadow? Great
shadow is who Josh Freeman? And then didn't they trade
Josh that year? And then it's Glennon and or went.

Speaker 14 (41:28):
From Josh to Mike Glennon, Mike Glennon to you know,
we had Josh McCowen. Yes, Then we had Jameis Winston.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
Then we had.

Speaker 14 (41:42):
Uh Fitzpatch, Fitzmagic, Fitzmagic. After fitz Magic we got we
had Jamis. Oh wait, so it went from Fitzmagic to
Jamis in the same year.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
After Jamis we got Tom. After Tom, we got a Baker.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Okay, So, uh what about what about Jamis?

Speaker 4 (42:06):
Was he like he actually is a really down nerve guy, man?

Speaker 14 (42:08):
I think he's just misunderstood. He's one of the most
coolest and genuine people. Like it's hard for me. The
same thing bad about any of these guys. They're genuine.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
All quarterbacks kind of you have to have that. You
have to have that quality, right.

Speaker 14 (42:20):
A little bit of it's like a certain part of
their charisma that gets the people.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
To go around there.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Like I'm telling you, they're like politicians and they're and
I don't know if you've experienced just like they came
up and sit down here an interview and I don't
know if from Adam. By the end of the interview,
I'm like, man, I'm I want to be Are we friends?

Speaker 4 (42:36):
Are we boys?

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Are we are we gonna go have beers? And then
they like walk away and then they go do it
to somebody else.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
The amazing talent that they have, Yes, that's what politicians have.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
They have that same thing.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
You're like, I hate this guy. I can't stand this
guy that you meet him, Like, I kind of like
that guy. I don't know what the deal is.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
I don't know, I've never thought of it like that.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
It's it's honestly the exact same thing they have that.
It's the I don't it's the frendship, the genie quad,
I don't know what whatever. What's it like to win
a Super Bowl?

Speaker 4 (43:04):
Man?

Speaker 2 (43:05):
It's and your year was nuts.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
Because it was it was COVID. Okay, it was COVID.
You had to go on the road. You win three
on the road, including in Green Bay. In Green Bay, right,
take me back to the Green Bay game when they're
driving down the field late, okay, and I felt like

(43:28):
you guys had an Aaron jumpy.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (43:30):
I was gonna say like that me. I'm in the game.
I'm thinking they about the score. The b gaps wide open.
Wouldn't run it, listen. I tried to spin in and
close that. I was swipe at his ankles. He jumps
over my hand. I'm like, oh no, I missed the tackle.
We about to lose, and he.

Speaker 12 (43:48):
Threw the ball.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
I was like, oh man, why wouldn't he wouldn't run
there late? That was so weird.

Speaker 14 (43:53):
He did get got thinking why we was on him?
Shack was on him, JPP was on him, Sue was
on the Vet was on everybody was like it was
a destructive game for the defense.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Okay, So then you go home and win a Super
Bowl in the town that you live in.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Yeah, what's that like?

Speaker 4 (44:06):
Yep? You know when I knew I was gonna win.

Speaker 14 (44:08):
But at the beginning of the game, they got the
Kansas City Chiefs Hight. They did their you know, pregame
cry and said all everybody from Tampa and we do
Tampa Bay Tampa and it was the loudest I've ever
heard in my life.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Well help, They didn't have an offensive line that game either.

Speaker 4 (44:25):
It didn't matter to me, don't I don't put them
out there, coach.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
We just go against Brady got wasted. Were you were
you on one of those boats when he was he
was white boy wasted?

Speaker 4 (44:35):
Listen.

Speaker 14 (44:35):
It wasn't just Brady. Is just was televised. And I
tell you, we didn't know that the media was going
to be there after the boats. I don't think anybody.
We got off the boats and we looked and it's
a plethora of cameras looking at the top of the boat.
I'm looking at beat. I looked down. I said, man,
I don't think I can do any of this. And
then when you look on camera, you can see it

(44:57):
in everybody's eyes.

Speaker 4 (44:59):
We just had the time.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Yeah, the time. How did you have a last thing?
You've been to the top of the mountaintop. You get
to go through it. There's a lot that you got
to go through, right, A lot, a lot, a lot
of a lot of work, and you see guys who
they get towards the end of their career and they're
just trying to get a taste of what you've been
able to experience.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Not the playoffs, but the Super Bowl. Is it worth it?

Speaker 14 (45:20):
Oh my god, it's worth it. It's like being immortalized
in the game. You'll never forget that game. Not nobody
really nine points thirty one or nine against Pat.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Mahomes and in your hometown.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
Yes, the first to do it in Tampabody, and you.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Had to go as your as your quarterback as well.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
It was amazing.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
That was amazing.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Hey, enjoy the victory lap. Thanks for what you're doing
with the ACS. I really appreciate it. Then, thanks mere guest,
appreciate stuck.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Gotta leap show.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
You're on Fox Sports Radio and kind enough to be
joined by a couple of New York Jets, Breece Hall,
who we got a lot of information to get on
a Breece and Quincy Williams, talented linebacker and join us
on behalf of bounty. Let me start with you if
I were to tell you that your quarterback in college
was the starting quarterback for the Niners in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Would you reaction be.

Speaker 15 (46:12):
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised. I would just be surprised
if that happened so fast. But just me living with me,
you know, Brock was my roommate as well as my quarterback,
So just being around him, the type of guy he is,
I'm just knowing how hardy ORSU doesn't surprise me.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
That he's out come, out, come, take me back.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
I'm a big twelve guy in Oklahoma State guy and
he but it was he kind of struggled there later
on in his career.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Why what happened?

Speaker 15 (46:36):
Bro Oklahoma States defense is always so good versus They
always played so good versus us. But I don't know,
I just feel like Iowa State. You know, a lot
of guys, you know a lot of schools get more
talented players in those so sometimes it boils down to that.
But our last year we'd beat Oklahoma State when they
were number What.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Was that I was talking about just Oklahoma. I wasn't
like personalized Okoba State. I'm just like you guys. He
you guys kind of when he was young, he kind
of came out of nowhere, right and then I don't
want to say Plateau but there was like there was
kind of a ceiling there, and I think that's why
he went in mister irrelevant, right, And he didn't have
as good as senior season as people thought he would have,

(47:12):
And I didn't know, if you want to provide some
insight with it, that's all.

Speaker 15 (47:15):
Uh No, I mean, I think we all didn't have
as good of a season as we wanted. We went
from you know, winning the Fiesta Bowl beating Oregon to
you know, we were eight and five and playing in
the cheese At Bowl versus Clemson, which we should We
were easily a ten win team, but you know, sometimes
things just happened. But I always knew brough cap potential
to do whatever he wanted to do in the league.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
What was this season like for you?

Speaker 7 (47:35):
Oh man season? I mean it was a roller.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
Coaster, roller coaster, like like like a roller coaster Earth Player.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
I mean, I mean listen, I just as the viewer
at home.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Aaron comes out with the flag.

Speaker 7 (47:52):
Being in the game was crazy too.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
The place was nuts, and then four play You're like,
oh my god, what what what happened?

Speaker 9 (48:04):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (48:04):
What's that feeling like for me?

Speaker 15 (48:07):
Just being on the offense, you know, I'll get my
first my first snap for Aaron from Aaron Rodgers from
Aaron Rodgers and not get a big, big run and
not go out and I'll come back in another play.
And I just see him. He's looking up at the
sky like there's no way this already happened, and just knowing,
I knew something was serious was wrong with him because
of the way he looked at me when I was
running back on the field.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
So this up, it's heartbreaking for sure.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
When you guys are up on the sideline, was there
a murmur like yeah, like like Achilles because because.

Speaker 16 (48:34):
We is on the ground and it was like hold
on this eight. It was like, all right, y'all, coach
is going through things like hold on, coach, we need
we need to find out what's going on. He got up,
he got up, took another play. It was like, all right,
we're good.

Speaker 7 (48:46):
What's going on?

Speaker 16 (48:47):
Then he was like hey, y'all in the tent. I
was like, oh, hold on, man, And so like you
get that little feeling in your STU.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
Was there like a murmurs on the sideline about the
Achilles or you guys are just playing and you don't like,
what is it really like on the sideline when I
think is going on.

Speaker 15 (49:00):
When the when I run up back out on the
field and the trainers were talking to him, I heard
him whisper it, and I was like, oh, and I
didn't say anything to anybody else because I was sitting
right by him and kind of like kneeled over and
heard him say it.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
So it was like, Wow, this is crazy.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
The craziest part is you win that game.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Yeah, Like that was an insane football game that you
end up winning. And so then there's got to be
the mix of emotions of like we just lost.

Speaker 16 (49:25):
Like a bigger thing too though, so like it's kind
of like a boost up too though, So like that happens,
and it's like Aaron still saying like, hey, go out there,
like I'm gonna be back out here and things like that.

Speaker 7 (49:34):
So you know, he was like, all right, bet we
got to make sure.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
A little bit when he.

Speaker 7 (49:38):
Come back, we got he got a manageable game, you
feel me.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
So you having that mindset, what about what about for you?

Speaker 2 (49:46):
How would you characterize this year?

Speaker 9 (49:48):
It was definitely a roller coaster for me.

Speaker 15 (49:50):
I was just excited to be back and I wanted to,
you know, play a full healthy season and I did that.
So regardless of you know, all the ups and downs
we had, I was just blessed to be healthy, come
out healthy at the end of the season.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Quincy.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
For you guys on the defensive side, so oftentimes you
guys recalled upon to win games, right to win games?

Speaker 2 (50:09):
I did.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Like, again, outwardly, I thought you guys did a much
better job this year of not being the defense and
the offense being a team. But on a daily basis,
what's that like, how did you guys kind of stay together?

Speaker 16 (50:20):
Yeah, So when me saying that it was a roller coaster,
like it was a lot of ups and down, but
I wouldn't change like the people who I was on
the roller coaster with. That's the biggest thing. So like
with their thing that was coming out of the media
and stuff, a lot of that stuff we ain't even
re see. So like this last interview, he told me something,
I said, Bro, I ain't know nothing, you know, I
ain't know nothing about that because in the locker room
and in the facility.

Speaker 7 (50:38):
Everybody was blue together. The focus was going one to
those so like we ain't get the results we wanted sometime,
but the focus were there.

Speaker 16 (50:44):
And like I told him, like the way you can
tell about the team like the next year, like go
watch their last couple of games, like you feel me.
We ain't going to the playoffs, but let's see how
they play because most of those guys gonna be back,
you feel me.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
So you can you can tell if a team is
united if they're like in games gauge like Glasgow, if
they're just like laying down like.

Speaker 16 (51:02):
Already talking about the Bahamas, like, hey, we're gonna go
to the Bahamas, and your feeling like he ain't engaged?

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Yeah, was it?

Speaker 4 (51:11):
One? Two?

Speaker 5 (51:11):
Three?

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Can't con.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Does Pacheco run harder than dudes? Or is it just
the style that he runs? It looks like he's running hard.
He looks like he's angry at the ground.

Speaker 15 (51:22):
Oh yeah, he definitely does.

Speaker 7 (51:24):
He he's good.

Speaker 15 (51:25):
He runs hard, he could catch he blocks, you know,
I think he does everything.

Speaker 16 (51:29):
Hard, bro, like he high run him, but he runs hard,
Like I mean I'm tackling him a couple of times,
but like he wanted to run a back.

Speaker 7 (51:36):
Did you go against you? Like, let me go make
my past strapped a little bit.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
You guys are here on behalf of Bounty there's these
wings that have been sitting here that have been untouched.
Uh but basically that that bounty has got to clean
everything up exactly. Yeah, you gotta clean everything up.

Speaker 15 (51:51):
You can't have football without wings, and you can't have
wings without bounty because clean so and they exercise.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
And what's your wing order?

Speaker 7 (52:00):
My wing order, I'm gonna go see, I'm gonna go
down south.

Speaker 16 (52:03):
I'm gonna get Cajun ranch fries with honey mustard, limon
purple wings, Honey mustard, limon pepple wings. I'm gonna get
a hot limon pepple wings, so it's hot with lemon
purple sprinkles on the top straight from.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
The That's that's Southern.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Wings hit a little different brace so different. What about you?
What's your wing order with fries?

Speaker 15 (52:26):
I'm gonna do Louisiana voodoo fries so they don't have
everything on the Yeah, you feel me. And then I'm
honey barbecue, mango hobbing naro with some ranch.

Speaker 4 (52:35):
Good.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Okay, Well, so you gotta you gotta pick up your
bounty right for the Super Bowl. And of course you
guys get your bounty, letter jackets, anything else you need
to know.

Speaker 7 (52:43):
My wing man.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Yeah here, you're his wing man. He's not your wing man,
he is my wing man, you know.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
I mean, we're just happy that Jets offensive defense can
get along this well after the season.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Oh yes, that's bodes well for the future.

Speaker 4 (52:58):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Guys, thanks for jo so much.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Stut Gottleep Show here on Fox Sports Radio, and it's
great to have to Honta Jones stop by. Of course
we remember him as a linebacker in the Nation Football League,
but he's done so many things off the field while
playing since playing. They joined us today on behalf of
a Cafe Momentum, right, Cafe Momentum.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Cafe Momentum.

Speaker 17 (53:19):
Cafe Momentum is an amazing organization. And if you can
see right around the other side, there's a bunch of
kids that are wandering around and all those kids are
justice involved at risk youth. They've come out of the
juvenile justice system and they've found a new way in
order to kind of build themselves back up and and
find a way to be empowered and find a way

(53:40):
to get people to believe in them. Right, our system,
our system is your table's a little walking your system.
Our systems are a little bit messed up right, and
there's a lot of problems that we need to solve
in society. And so Stand Together works alongside Stand Together
Foundation and Player Coalition in the NFL to identify these
different places where a restaurant can actually go into place right.

(54:01):
And so we have a restaurant in Dallas, we have
a restaurant that's soon to be coming to Denver, and
hopefully places like Baltimore where these young people can go
out of the system and into these restaurants and find a.

Speaker 4 (54:12):
New way to live life. So they work, Yeah, they work.

Speaker 17 (54:15):
It's a twelve month program of which they actually get paid, right,
And they start off as like you know, you start
off as washing dishes and then you become like a
line cook and then you start working and serving people.
And so it's a great way to what I like
to call rewire yourself.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
Right.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
So why do you do this?

Speaker 3 (54:33):
You know, like so many guys they do when they
play because they like it to look good.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Right, You don't have to do this.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
Why?

Speaker 17 (54:40):
No, I think it's important to give back. I think
that's number one. I think it's number two.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
There are some.

Speaker 17 (54:45):
Big problems in society today that a lot of people,
you know, are walking away from and not moving towards,
and Stand Together we move towards things.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
We don't walk away from things.

Speaker 17 (54:54):
You know, during COVID, you know, there are a lot
of people that were financially affected due to COVID nineteen
worked alongside Stand Together. We you know, we helped too
close to two hundred thousand people get back up on
their feet.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
Right.

Speaker 17 (55:06):
And so when I think about the organization and I
think about their impact, I think about other ways of
which I can make a difference. And so collectively we
do a lot of things. There's another organization, Kylie Sweeney
who's part of the you know, part of the NFL.
He's got a program downtown Boxing Jim in Detroit, which
works with young people that are coming from school and

(55:26):
after school program helps them find their their you know,
found find their way, and they've had one hundred percent
graduation rate.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
Right.

Speaker 17 (55:34):
So I can point to all these different nonprofits and
organizations that Stand Together works with, and I just find
that the organization does some amazing work. And so that's
why I love doing it, because I think people gave
me a chance to empowered me. They believed in me,
and I believe in them too.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
It's great, but so many guys again they get to
their post career, they're like, man, now I want to
just kind of keep stacking money.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
I want to live somewhere comfortable.

Speaker 4 (55:54):
You can do You can do that too.

Speaker 17 (55:56):
There's nothing wrong with stacking the chips, hanging out, coming
to the Super Bowl, having fun, meeting people, working and
things like that.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
But like, what's the purpose of life?

Speaker 9 (56:05):
Right?

Speaker 17 (56:06):
My coach at the University of Michigan, Lloyd Carr, would
always talk about it's not about you, It's about.

Speaker 4 (56:09):
Something greater than yourself.

Speaker 17 (56:11):
Right, So if you want to find your mission and
purpose in life, you have to, you know, you have
to look inward in order to kind of project outward.
And I think you know, looking across and and by
the way, you can stop by eleven to one o'clock
and everybody send them over there to Radio Road. There's
gonna be some young people over there, have some conversations
with them, meeting them.

Speaker 4 (56:29):
They're gonna be serving food.

Speaker 17 (56:30):
But hear their story, right, Not everybody has the opportunity
that you have. Sure, not everybody gets a second chance,
Like I'm sure you have gotten, just like myself.

Speaker 4 (56:40):
Right, So we all need to be able to.

Speaker 17 (56:41):
Understand that second chances are important. Not everybody has those.
There's some obstacles and there's other challenges and barriers that
are in the way, so we need to relieve those
so that everybody can ultimately reach their higher purpose in
their goal.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
To Honey Jones, John is here, Doug Gotlib Show, and
Fox Sports Radio Football Wise, what is it like to
watch your own model International Championship?

Speaker 4 (57:00):
Beautiful?

Speaker 17 (57:00):
You know, I think I was talking to someone earlier today,
and everybody essentially got what they wanted, right.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
Michigan got our national championship.

Speaker 17 (57:08):
Which is fantastic, right, And I'm looking back and the
last time we had a national championship was when I
was there. Sure, right, Harbaugh got you know, his opportunity
to go to the NFL, and Coach Moore is now
running the show.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
So I'm just excited.

Speaker 17 (57:20):
And I loved getting all the different phone calls from
family and friends that went to the game, spent time
at the game, and just you know, Michigan is the
greatest university in the world, So what can I say?
And everybody's walking around with their their amazing blue on
and and high fiving and you know, saying go Blue
to each person. I think this is just like a
phenomenal energy.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
Who's the guy who you played with or against in
the league who when it was the down years and
when it was bad was texting you and calling you
and rubbing it in on how down Michigan was.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Because listen, so first I'm gonna go a mistake.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
I played ok basketbat Ocum State. We got stopped last
night by Houston. We are not good this year. It's
hard to watch. And there are I have plenty of
dudes that played in Kansas, like we have your program,
you know, and I'm waiting for the day that we
get back to where we need to get to. I'm
sure has big, you know, the biggest rivalry in the sport.
I'm sure there's no high state guy or two that

(58:20):
was making sure you knew exactly how bad Michigan was.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
When it was at the bottom. Oh there there's a
lot of just State host. Let me explain something to you.

Speaker 17 (58:30):
Everybody looks towards Michigan and they know that we've always
been on the mountaintop. So I could just point to
any and everybody that's walking around media row, and every
single one of them has said to me at some
point before.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
We won the national championship. You know, how's Michigan going
to do this year?

Speaker 17 (58:46):
You know, whether it be Ron Daye, whether it be
Eddie George, it doesn't matter what school you went to.
Everybody is envious of the greatest university in the world.
I did, but like COVID, not everybody, every single person like.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
The COVID year was it was it was a by
them out here, right, and it was bad. Penn State
was bad too, I get it, but those a couple
of years before that, it was couldn't beat Ohio State.
And there was a lot of people like, dude, get
rid of this hardball guy.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
He's goofy.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
He took a pay cut, right, So there had to
be moments there were, dude, you like, once again.

Speaker 4 (59:17):
Let me explain something to you.

Speaker 17 (59:18):
Yes, okay again, Michigan is the greatest university in the world.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
Okay.

Speaker 17 (59:23):
We were established in eighteen seventeen. We'd run the show,
all right. All these different companies that are out here,
all these different businesses, all these different casinos are supported
by the University of Michigan. Every single person that's not
a part of the Michigan crew.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
The Michigan mafia.

Speaker 17 (59:38):
We're all saying to me, are you guys ever going
to get back on track? Is Michigan gonna ever go
back to the National Championship where you played?

Speaker 4 (59:46):
Right?

Speaker 17 (59:46):
They said it every single person, because you were involved
in sports, we did not go to Michigan.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
You called me out.

Speaker 17 (59:51):
Now I'm basically saying to you, thank you so much
for your advice and enthusiasm, but the team won.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
I have a question about Cafe Momentum.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
By the way, you go to Cafe Momentum dot Orge
slash Super Bowl, what kind of food?

Speaker 17 (01:00:05):
Well, at the restaurant in Dallas, all different types of
fair meaning all different types of food dependent upon the
season and such. But over here at the booth, there's
going to be different sandwiches and other things. But most
importantly it's going to be talking to the kids.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
No, I know, right, but I just want to know
what kind of food.

Speaker 17 (01:00:22):
Well, I mean they have the hot was it hot
honey biscuit sandwich, which is basically with.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Chicken chicken sandwich and chicken sandwich.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
Absolutely fantastic.

Speaker 17 (01:00:33):
But you know what they really like to do is
dependent upon the season, create different dishes and when the
young people come through. They're actually learning about the process,
not only the process of the restaurants, but also understanding
how food is sourced, where food is sourced, from the seasonality.
So they become chefs. They become these little chefs right
just be you know. So everybody's learning a specific thing

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and they change.

Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
They change pretty frequently.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
It's good to catch up. Thank you, Thanks you for
what you're doing. Appreciate Cafe Momentum or slash super Bowl.
All right, that's it for end the bonus. Check out
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Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
To you anywhere you go. Live from Radio Row. I'm
Doug Gottlie.