IN THE BONUS with Doug Gottlieb

Doug riffs on UConn winning their second straight national title. Doug reacts to Paul Pierce's take on Caitlin Clark. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Doug gives out his Pick Of The Day.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug gottl Show. Heres in
the Bonus with Doug gottl.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Oh. You know, it's funny. I don't know how you
are when you watch like the Final Four last night,

(00:36):
because I mean, just here, I'll give you my quick
take on that game. It's one thing to be more talented.
I thought Yukon was more overall more talented than Purdue.
But it's another thing to be more talented. But you
also have to play to it and play as hard
and as as physical and bring the same intensity or

(00:57):
greater intensity in your opponent. And that's hard, because that's
what Purdue does. They bring a level of physicality and
intensity that you have to match or they will mash you.
But there's also and this is what I love about
Yukon basketball. They're expertly coached, They're expertly prepared, they had
a game plan. And here's the and I'm just gonna

(01:18):
be totally honest with you, Matt Painter got de pants yesterday. Now,
part of it is he he fell into the trap
of old coaches. Old coaches if you grew up playing
youth football, and he had an old coach that had
like the old bike shorts, remember bike bike shorts, and

(01:39):
they'd wear like a polo shirt and they have a
whistle around their neck and a hat with a mesh
back and like a foam front, and they go men
or boys. Men if it was high school boys otherwise,
but sometimes men. If we do what we do well,
they cannot stop us. Right, that's what the single wing is, right,
that pitch the ball, student body right, everybody goes the right.

(02:02):
You can line up fifteen guys are there. We don't
fucking care. We're gonna run through you. But here's the thing.
You gotta have a plan B. You gotta read the game.
You gotta be willing to adjust. And this is old.
People have this issue. We talked about this. Yes, yes,
Jay Spot, you better be able to adjust, to evolve,
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(02:27):
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(02:50):
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(03:10):
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Why they invested so much money in FM signals that
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(03:31):
of a bit player now. Sad, But that's not the point.
I thought, Matt Painter, like they they won all year
on throwing into Zach Edy and if you don't help,
he scores, and if you do, and then throwing in
enough three point shots, and all Yukon said was like,
none of your guys can beat us off the dribble,

(03:51):
and you can only beat us if you get offensive.
We're gonna not let you shoot threes and not let
you get offensive rebounds. And if Zach Edy wants to
go for fifty, that's fine. Nobody else is going the score,
and that's essentially what happened. And even though you're an
athletic mismatch, you can create some openings, you can create
some shots with movement. But they hadn't done that all year,
and they didn't read the game. They kept doing the

(04:13):
same thing over and over and over and over and
over again and having some early success but then limited
success and had no ability to adjust. Yukon had a
better game plan, they had a more evolved style, they
had better players, and here's the big one. The players
executed the game plan. So they're two time defending national
champions now. And when you watch Danny Hurley, like Danny

(04:36):
Hurley on the sidelines is a lunatic and I love
Danny his family, like Bobby, his brother was my idol.
I played against Danny when he's a Seaton Hall. We
beat him. He had seventeen. He was a really good player.
He wasn't his brother, but like dude, it doesn't mean matter.
He was a really good player, left handed point guard.
He was tough. But Danny is authentic to himself.

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Speaker 3 (05:09):
Let's to get what.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
The Fox says?

Speaker 1 (05:12):
And now what does the fuck say?

Speaker 2 (05:15):
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of previous show on Fox Sports Radio Fox Sports One.
This is Colin Cowhard talking about you God, what last night?

Speaker 4 (05:28):
In a world of TikTok, in a world of a
lot of sizzleover substance, in a world of headlines over
actually reading the article. Yukon is the movie Oppenheimer, a
historic three hour movie about the Adam Baum, and it
swept through the awards. Barbie was cute, fun, people dressed

(05:53):
up silly. No big, splashy adventure movie, no big movie
v star former wrestler, nothing against rock. But the reality
is Yukon Basketball is a serious program that attracts serious
people to its program, and Dan Hurley's perfect for that.

(06:13):
He's not worried about how he looks, got his hoodie
in his office the first big shot of the second half.
Yukon never loses when they lead it half. Ever, they
were forty seven to zero going into last night's game,
when they led thirty six thirty at half, Newton comes
down hits a three, and I'm thinking thirty nine thirty,
it's over. We're just playing out the string here. It's over.

(06:36):
The game's officially over. And that's the way it is
against Yukon most of the last two years.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, I'm like, I think there's a lot to it.
I think it's the perfect storm, to be honest with you,
because Yukon is well, fun enough, they've been successful enough,
they did a great job evaluations. They had better players
than Purdue, Like, look, you have we're playing different sports,
and they're the rare combination of having some money, having

(07:08):
a culture from guys returning and oh yeah, by the way,
being able to go out in the portal and smartly
spend some money as well, and still recruiting and playing
a freshman, which is really hard to do today. But
they were expertly, as we said in the open, expertly coached, prepared.
They have a real team and a real culture, and

(07:31):
they were better at at least three, if not four positions. Yeah,
they're better four, maybe even five positions, but better four
positions than Purdue was. And their game plan was way better.
So they won. Were they beatable? Yes, yes, but I
don't think Purdue was the team that could beat them,

(07:52):
and if you look at the styles that beat them,
they're different than that, and they had gotten to a
place of where almost invincibility. Here late in the year.
This is Rachel Nichols talking about the prospect of Don
Staley being the Charlotte Hornets head coach.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
I'm not sure why she would want a job. Frankly,
we used to say, oh, gee, it's more money in
the pros.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Well it's not.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
The average NBA coach of salary is three and a
half million dollars and she's making about that right now,
plus the endorsement stuff and all the other outside stuff.
So that's not the incentive to do it. Maybe she'd
want it for the challenge, but I think she's accomplishing
so much at South Carolina, both for her team her sport,
she's going to want to stay in that, and she's
expressed that, by the way, when people have talked to
her about it. If she did want to do it, however,

(08:38):
I think she would be more than capable, and I
think that NBA players would absolutely respond to She has
been there. When you are looking across the locker room
for someone you respect to tell you what to do.
I don't know if you get better than Don Staley.
I mean, she has won multiple national championships as a coach.
She's not only won three Olympic gold medals herself, she
coached an Olympic team to a gold medal. She did

(08:59):
it at the college level, she did it at THEWNBA level.
She was one of the best players in that leadup
all time. I think any team would be lucky to
have her. I just don't know if they could get her.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, no, no, Rachel's missing it. Okay, So what all
of that stuff. The average salary stuff is accurate, okay.
And by the way, there's different levels of it, right,
you have some coaches not making it's really average salary.
Thing is like when they say average length of career
in the NFL, like you're counting. There's you know, ten

(09:29):
coaches that are young coaches, developmental guys. You know, they
work their way up and you don't have to pay
them much and they make a couple million dollars and
those guys get thrown by the wayside as soon as
stuff gets tough. The problem with Don Staley is the
same problem you have with most college coaches. Okay, it's
the same reason that it doesn't work with college coaches

(09:51):
to the NFL because college basketball, college football is about
the coach. What they say goes. It's a fiefdom. And
here's what Rachel and look, I actually love and respect Rachel.
She had one of the all time great tweets last week. Okay,
I won't even get into it, but but here's where

(10:12):
Rachel doesn't know because that's a little bit out of
her element in covering sports. She's covered the NBA forever.
Don Staley is tougher to play for than any of
those men. And how she coaches, she's old school, and
by old school, you know what I mean in terms

(10:34):
of how she can be great players. All right, she
now she loves on them too, but she is a tough,
tough lady to play for.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
That shit don't work in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
When you ain't played or coach in the NBA, and
generally it doesn't in college sports. It's about the coach.
In the NBA, it's about the players. In college sports
is about the coach, and the NBA is about the players.
The second you make it yourself about yourself is a
second you lose your team, and then you factor in

(11:07):
that she is a woman and that there's a relationship
piece which may or may not work. I don't know work.
I do think that she would have a better shot.
Then you know, people have tried to put what's your name,
Becky Becky Hammond. Like Becky Hammond coached with the Spurs.
She was not well liked, and I don't know the

(11:28):
dynamics of it, I truly do not. I can only
tell you that, remember she was maybe going to get
the Portland Trailblazers job. They called San Antonio and they're like, no, No.
The style of coaching is different in the NBA than
it is the WNBA. The style of coaching in college

(11:49):
is way different than what it is in the NBA.
In the NBA, it's it's a weird kind of You
either have to be so. I mean, you look at
Oklahoma City and there's a that does an amazing job,
but even that he had to really earn people's respect
over years of what they've run. Now in Oklahoma City
and still there's a can they do it in the

(12:10):
postseason but everybody respect. You either have to be that
or in terms of having it, you have to have
had the you have to have done it. And NBA
guys may say they respect the WNBA players, they don't.
They don't think it's close to being the same. Here's

(12:31):
Paul Pierce talking about Kaitlyn Clark.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
I mean she just captivated me. I mean her style
of play, the level of difficulty of her shots. I
mean once he got to LSU with Caitlyn Clark in Iowa,
you know, you had and she drew America in for
one because you had this one individual. She had other
great teammates, but that was outstanding. And you got this

(12:55):
small school Iowa who's never on the radar for girls
basketball like these other pro she uplifted them, uh to
great heights that we've never seen from that program. Now
you're going against the heavyweights. LSU was a start off
who was labeled to the villains and the defending national championship.
So now that caught our eye. And then after that

(13:17):
it was another story, Oh well she beat LSU. Well,
can she beat Yukon? I mean, Yukon is the most
story programming all of histories.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Correct, we've never seen, you know, I mean coach Gino.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
She definitely can't beat Gino.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
So we want to.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
See if she can do it.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
And again then we're like, all right, hold on, no way,
no way, she gonna beat Don Staley. But at that point,
America's captivated.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
We're tuning in.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Now you got all of us.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Look. I think it's a great human interest story. I
think she's an awesome player. But remember we've had great,
great female basketball players women go to the WNBA and
they relatively disappeared. Sabria and I and SQ and Kelsey
Plumb are not mainstream household names. Sabrina probably more so

(14:14):
because she has the Nike shoe, which is a great shoe.
Caitlin should be different, and we'll see what the Olympics
does for her. The issue she's gonna have, I think
is in the Olympics she will probably be like the
tenth through twelfth best player, and you know, we'll have

(14:36):
a passion of lust to see her play, and I
don't know how that works for us. I'm fascinated to
see what the next step is like, but I do
not think it's a locked up since that they'll be
that much carryover into the w That's what the Fox said.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
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Speaker 2 (15:04):
Let's find out who or what is annoying Jason Stewart.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
And now it's your annoying, Doug.

Speaker 6 (15:17):
You just got done talking about Don Staley in this
rumor circulating that the Cornets would be interested in her.
One thing is official, according to WOJE, that Charlotte has
been granted permission to interview Sacramento's G League coach Lindsay Harding,
former number one pick in the WNBA. I didn't know that.
I'm going to trust his information on that. I don't

(15:38):
know her, but I will say this, this sounds familiar,
and it seems familiar. Remember like eighteen months ago, Adam
Silver said this very peculiar thing. He said, within the
next ten years, there's going to be a woman head
coach in the NBA, and at the time, like wow,
that's a weird proclamation, like just to stay out loud.

(16:00):
And now I think we're seeing the result of that.
Doesn't this seem like it's the pseudo Rooney rule where
every team needs now to bring in a woman and
that'll be patronizing.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Now in fairness to her, she used the G League
coach the year. Okay, So here's here's the problem with it.
Who was the G League coach of the year last year?
Ronnie Burrell? Did he get any Did he get any
interviews for head coaching jobs?

Speaker 1 (16:26):
No?

Speaker 2 (16:27):
The year before is Mahmood abd Fata okay from Rio
Grand Valley. Did he get any interviews? No. Stan Heath,
of course was a decorated college coach, was the G
League coach of the year in twenty twenty one. Martin Schiller,
Will Weaver, Mike Miller, Jerry Stackhouse's coach the year. He

(16:48):
got the Vanderbilt job after that only because the guy
who ran the G League became the athletic director at Vanderbilt.
That didn't work. Dan Craig, Scott Morrison, Connor, Henry Alex Jensen.
Eric Musselman, of course is now the USC coach. Chris Finch,
Quinn Snyder Like, outside of Quinn Snyder, none of them
are head coaches in the NBA and none of them
are getting fucking interviews. So the points you're making and

(17:13):
I got no problem, Like if they want to interview
Lindsay Hardy like that's great. I know somebody works for her.
He's like, she's awesome, she got a chance to be
an NBA. But usually you go from G league coach
to back of the bench, then front of the bench,
then you work your way up. There's three seats in
the front of the bench. Then you become a head coach.
And we're skipping steps because there's this mandate, there's this

(17:33):
push for her to become a head coach. So yeah,
it is, without any question, okay, without any question, we're
doing the Rooney roll. But in the meantime, there are
many talented coaches that have worked their way up to
the video room. They're sitting there going like, dude, really,

(17:54):
what else.

Speaker 6 (17:55):
All in the name of DEI I guess? Which is
a very complicated subject in this electioneer. So the next
thing that annoys me is the use of the word loser.
I think Barkway used it very well last night in
this exchange.

Speaker 7 (18:12):
Well, y'all saw the loser standing outside watching that today?

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Not losers, Yes they are. We've all seen darkness before stopping. No,
not not in the daylight.

Speaker 6 (18:22):
Just come on, man, hat on the eclipse.

Speaker 7 (18:27):
I saw a loser standing watching your blip outside. Have
you seen Chuck Flft?

Speaker 2 (18:37):
So you're not a fan. You're not a fan.

Speaker 7 (18:39):
I'm not gonna sit outside like an eating weight on
the darkness? Did you not wait on wait till I
could have wait? It's gonna be darklas, How can I
ask your checkond? Did you ask your family to wait
on your left outside? I was trying to get my
grass on and there it is. So we were talking about, Hey,
clip's gonna happen again. I ain't gonna have to have
another blip.

Speaker 6 (18:58):
So what Charles is calling people that were so excited
and and schedule their day to look at the equips losers?
And I thought to myself, that is such an underutilized
term nowadays, and I think it's all in the name
of political correctness. But I think that we could use that,
we could we could use it strategically. I mean, I
came from a show. My background is a show that

(19:18):
you'd use loser on a daily basis probably way too
much way back in the day. And you know that's
not there's a balance. A couple of weeks ago, I
said Vanessa Bryant, telling anyone who had to complain about
the the statue for Kobe tough shit because he thought
about it. Uh, And you could use tough shit more often.
I think you could use you could use the term

(19:38):
loser more often.

Speaker 7 (19:39):
Doug.

Speaker 6 (19:39):
That that's what annoys me is it's not used enough.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Well, I I hate to bring it to you, Okay,
but the whole world has gone soft and the only
guy who can get away with it is Charles Barkley. Yeah,
that's the problem with it. The only guy who can
get away with it is Charles Arkley. So yeah, I

(20:06):
agree with you, but I would also tell you that again,
the reality is only chuck and get with it. Yes,
of course there's fucking losers out there. You're a fucking
loser if you tweet quasi death threats or sexual innuendo
over somebody who doesn't know you and they're on you know,
social media, and they're a young woman, like you're a

(20:30):
fucking your old man. You're a fucking loser right now.
There's a difference between appreciating beauty and and being over
sexual in things like you're creepy, you're gross, You're a loser.
If you take time off work to watch the moon
and the sun come into alignment and you make a
big deal of it. I don't know if you're a loser,
but you're fucking weirdo to me, Like did you really

(20:52):
have to take the day out?

Speaker 5 (20:52):
Like?

Speaker 2 (20:53):
But I guess like if you want to use a
personal day like, that's cool. I use my personal days
for my kids. I never even use it for my self.
Maybe I'm a loser because I love watching college I'm
okay being called. So you think I'm a sports loser,
Like we're sports losers, those of us who have looked

(21:13):
at box scores forever, those of us who know you
know shit that that people say that it's not right. Yeah,
but yes, I loser isn't under utilized term. But don't
think you can copy Charles Barkley, because only Charles can
get away with being Charles.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
That's I think that's a great topic. Maybe that's the
midway at some point, like things that make that you
are a loser about a make you a loser, like
my prep form fantasy drafts. I'm a loser. I put
way too many hours into rankings and fantasy prep. I'm
definitely a loser in those moments.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
So and loser, you know, you could be a sports
sports door or whatever you know.

Speaker 6 (21:55):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. So Greatest Team Ever
debate over the eighteen to twenty four hours yukon greatest
team Ever. Oh jeez, you're back. I mean, I don't know.
I guess we have to go though, that's because the
show is. These shows are all about debates, and let's
think of segments to kill. But like, greatest, it can't

(22:17):
be the greatest team ever if college basketball is the
least relevant it's ever been correct.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Correct, correct, Like, look, I cover it, I love it.
I think I truly believe next year is the beginning
of it being back, and in two and three years
it will be back. But it is a greatly depleted sport.
And you had a team that had probably four pros
on it, and even in part of it is you know,

(22:46):
we got a week draft year against the team of
you know, like you have one guy who's dominant, who
might be an NBA, who might start NBA games, probably
doesn't or starts but doesn't play a ton. Yeah, I
agree with you, like, but they don't have to apologize

(23:07):
for dominating the competition. But let's be honest, the competition
is not close to what it used to be. Like
I like my favorite team. My favorite team that no
one talks about is the ninety five UCLA championship team.
It's Tyas, Edney, ed Obannon, Charles Obannon, Toby Bailey, Cameron

(23:28):
Dollar Jr. Henderson, Christan Johnson. They dominated. Now they needed
a miracle shot of four point eight seconds. Tya Saidney
going length to the floor. But that team was awesome.
That team was also with except you know, Kristain and Jr.
Play and Toby Bailey played, they were freshman, but ed
Obannon was a fifth year seniors National Player of the Year. Like,

(23:50):
they kicked the shit out of that team yesterday. You know,
George Zidick inside would do just fine. So and I'm
I'm not like a UCL I'm not a hater towards it.
But like the UNLV teams, the UNV team that won it,
the Duke team that won it, college basketball had players
stay longer. The Fab five never won a title. They
beat the shit out of that team yesterday. Now, if

(24:16):
you want to say, hey, it's the most dominant to
their season, that's a great discussion. It's the most dominant
run in the NCAA tournament. That's a different discussion. But
that is the best team I've ever seen. Either one
you lack the context, or two maybe you just haven't
watched a lot and you're not lying. That's so anybody.

Speaker 6 (24:37):
Else, No, that's it so people that wanted to have
that debate this morning. The Lindsay Harding situation being the
new Rooney rule and the use of the word loser.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Hmmm, I'd say the Rooney rule that's not unofficially a
Rooney rule is a okay, sir.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
The bet is to you callin, baby, it's time for
the Pick of the Day.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
I Pick of the day, Pick of the day, Pick
of the day, Pick of the day, Pick of the day.
Pick of the day is gonna come to us from
the Association from the NBA, where Boston takes on Milwaukee
in Milwaukee. Oooh, this is tasty, tasty, because, as we

(25:31):
all know, Milwaukee is a fucking train wreck. They've lost
four consecutive games, including three in a row at home
to the Grizzlies, who aren't very good, to the Raptors
who stink, and to the Knicks who don't have their
second best player, and they lost to the Wizards on
the road. They're taken on the Celtics team that is
in cruise control and has one four in row, and

(25:54):
they've done so. You know, the Kings they beat by one,
but outside of that, they won by twelve, thirty five
and seventeen points against the Blazers. Now they go on
the road. Both teams have had a day off and
Boston is only a one point favorite. Like, what are
we doing here? Take Boston. It's easy Boston. They don't

(26:17):
have to be competing like this. But the Milwaukee game.
They want Milwaukee to know you can't mess with us.
You can't. You think you can turn it on for
the playoffs. You can't give me Boston. You're welcome. That's
it for the end the Motus podcast. I got the
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(26:39):
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