February 15, 2021 • 40 mins
In this hour of The Herd with Colin Cowherd, Colin finally gets a chance to react to the Super Bowl. After some reflection, it's clear to Colin that even though Tampa Bay quarterback Tom Brady is sometimes mistake-prone, he has inspired and elevated this Buccaneers team to a level of Super Bowl contender. Also, Colin is seeing the "Brady Effect" take hold in Seattle--Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson wants some say in who the team brings in. Plus, Colin explains the "Crowded Bar Theory" as it applies to the Green Bay Packers and outgoing Texan defensive end J.J. Watt. Finally, Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated's MMQB joins the show to discuss some possible player moves in the NFL.
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great to be back live in Los Angeles. This is
the heart wherever you may be and however you may
be listening Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio and FS one. I
was off last week. May have seen the social media
accounts a little bit of a health scare. I'm fine, Joy,
Taylor is quarantining, she is undisclosed location. She is joining
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me live. How are you joy? It looked great today.
It's great to be back. Good to see and hear
your voice this morning. How are things. I'm great and
we are very happy to have you back. Colin. We
missed you and we didn't get to have our Super
Bowl show. Me and Nick did it, but obviously everyone
wanted to hear your thoughts on the Super Bowl, so
we're very happy to have you back. It's great. One
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hour from now, Colin right, Colin wrong. So my first
show back, i'll probably be rusty. But I thought this morning,
and I'd like to thank all the people that said
wonderful things. I live in Los Angeles. Grocery stores, car washes,
wherever I went, people could not have been kind or
thank you so much for that. I'll wear the rust
off a little bit today. But I did want to
spend just five minutes talking about the super Bowl because
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I didn't get to talk about it, and you know,
I love football. It's probably sixty sixty five percent of
my show. So I watched it from a hospital bed.
I took notes. Swear to god, I'm that big of
a dork. So you know, as I watched it, so
much of what we do, not just me, but you
We watch sports and then we observed something, and then
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we have an opinion on what we observed. And as
I sat there watching it from a hospital bed, sweating,
it's part of the medication notes, no distraction. I'm fascinated
with Tom Brady, and I always have thought he's a
great leader. But it's beyond that. There's a lot of
great athletes, lots in all sports. There's a handful of
great leaders. And then there's this inspirational thing that he
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can't quite quantify, where you know it's the you don't
want to disappoint somebody. Brady has the rare ability to
play poorly in stretches, three interception second half at Lambeaux
and he never loses it. He has an ability to
not be the most important person in the game Super Bowl.
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It was the front defensive front for the Buccaneers, and
yet he never loses it. That so much of what
Brady does is hard to quantify, is that he has
the ability. And I grew up watching a lot of
great broadcasters, and I thought Oprah was the best at this.
Not only was Oprah great at what she was a broadcaster,
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but she curated other broadcasters through her network, and she
actually inspired her audience. She was the first person. Ellen
did a good job to take the baton from Oprah
to kind of inspire her audience. Brady did something with
the special teams in Tampa that's hard to fathom you
watch football. I watched football for the last decade or more.
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Tampa special teams have been a tire fire, but yet
in the playoffs, often on the road, they were really strong.
Tampa's offensive line as Tom joined the team this year,
was middle of the road. Nobody thought they were elite.
Yet they went to Green Bay, Kansas City. They were
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a dominant unit against the Chiefs defensive line. Ali Marpets,
a guard, went to Hobert, came out twelfth best guard,
thirteenth best guard, twelfth best guard after Quentin Nelson. Is
he the second best guard now? Tristan Wirfs was the
highest gridded player right tackle in the Super Bowl. Ryan
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jens in the center, who's better at that position than him?
That offensive line was a middle of the pack last year.
I'm not blaming Jameis Winston. I'm saying is Derek Jeter
was a great leader, but he couldn't take the two
sixty five hitter and have him hit three hundred in
the playoffs. Lebron's a great leader, but he never could
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make Kyrie Irvan a great defender. Tom Brady made Tampa's
offensive line a powerhouse. He took their awful, unreliable special
teams and down the strength down the stretch, made them
a strength. So that's beyond leadership to me. That is inspiration,
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and so few do it. And Brady has the ability
to play poorly and stretches, to not be on the
field for long stretches, to not be that important individual games,
and yet he is inspiring other player. Scottie Miller, a
wide receiver, was on with Nick Wright last week and
discussed this very thing. Right away. We just saw his
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competitiveness and his his work ethic. I always say that
it's just a testament to who he is. He's out working.
He's done everything you could possibly do in this for
everything you could dream of doing, he's done it the
best ever do it. And he's still out there forty
three years old. I think he is I'll work in everybody.
But then as far as that fiery side, I mean
we saw that right away, even with us when we
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weren't running the right routse just getting on us, but
in a positive way too, because he wants to get
the best out He wants to get the most out
of you. This was not a talent story. And to
prove it, go back to week thirteen. Nobody would argue
what I'm about to say, including the Buccaneers. There was
a lot of turbulence until about week twelve or thirteen.
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Nobody thought this was a super Bowl team in week
ten eleven twelve, then they had a bye. From that
point that late season by they went eight no dominant
offensive line, better than average special teams, run game. So
in that moment when they finally no preseason, they finally
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got Tom in season for ten days of practice and inspiration.
It totally changed the football team. Of course, they weren't
good in September October, they had no preseason. It wasn't
until they got a bye at the end of the
year or near it and Tom could teach and mentor
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That goes beyond leadership and so much. You always hear
stories about people only use ten percent of their brain,
with rare exceptions. You hear stories about people can lift
a car or lift weight. That's not about leadership. You're
being inspired by something you're Maybe it's fear. Maybe it's
the fear of losing a child, Maybe it's the fear
of gaining something, whatever it is. When I sat in
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that hospital bed and I watched that game, so much
of what we all do with football is watch, observe,
and comment, and so much of what Brady does is
not on television. You can't quantify it, and you're going
to see all these teams. They're gonna be so many
teams rams with Matt Stafford. Watch the Bears go pay
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for Carson Wentz and the Jags are gonna draft Trevor
Lawrence and they think it's going to be this magic elixir.
It's going to solve all their issues. And they may
be better at quarterback, but the big arm and the
mobility and all the hype. I can see all that.
What Brady does, I often can't. All right, So I
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was off for just a week and Russell Wilson is
largely known as kind of boring. He always says the
right thing. Uh, you know, Russell Wilson is one of
those guys. It's always, you know, whatever's best for the team.
Go Hawks. And then I took a week off and
he turned into Howard Stern. He's like mister Hey, he's
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mister controversy. So he was going on multiple platforms and
talking and uh, he's all with Dan Patrick. Last week,
I think this is late last week, here's Russell Wilson
and opened up a whole Seattle can of worms. I
think that ultimately for me personally, you know, I think
that I want to be able to be involved because
at the end of the day, it's your legacy, it's
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your team's legacy, it's you know, it's the guys you
get to go into the huddle with and at the
end of the day that those guys you got to trust.
Are you involved in personnel decisions? Have you been involved
in personnel decisions? Not? Not as much? I don't, you know.
I think that, uh you know, do you want to
be involved russ Yeah, I think it helps. I think
it helps you to be involved more. But I think
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that's that dialogue. It should happen more often. Okay, we've
got stories now. Russell Wilson, I can tell you this
isn't happy with Pete Carroll. He likes his teammates, he
likes Seattle. It's a Pete Carroll thing. The offense is outdated.
Analytic people for several years now have rolled their eyes
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at the Seahawks offense. That's not my opinion. I've had
two different, three different Seattle players tell me they feel
like they're running in nineteen eighties offense. Since the death
of Paul Allen, Pete Carroll has unquestioned power. In my opinion,
it's a lobsided franchise where the coach has too much
power over the playbook, has too much power over his quarterback,
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has too much power over the franchise, and too much
power over John Snyder. The offensive line has been suboptimal
since they traded away Max Unger, a very talented center,
and Russ doesn't believe he has given the respect he deserves.
And the bigger issue is, let's say, Andy Reid, it
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was struggling with Mahomes. Andy Reid could still point to
that offense to go, look what I'm doing. When Bill
Belichick and Brady had their prickly moments, Belichick's defense was
still great. What is happening in Seattle is the offense
is outdated, but the defense is no good and that's
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Pete's specialty. In the last five years, Seattle's defense has
gone from fifth to eleven, to sixteen, to twenty six
to twenty second and too often Russell Wilson feels like
a life preserver for a franchise that can't stop anybody.
And what you're having now, and I will say this,
it is a little bit of a Tom Brady effect.
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Because Brady wins the Super Bowl, he got two things happening.
Teams are now saying, oh, all, he needs a quarterback,
just give us Carson went and Matt Stafford. That's happening.
But here's this second thing that's happening. Guys like Russell
Wilson are saying the hell, look at Brady's defense, Look
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at Brady's weapons. Brady went out and he got Gronk,
and he got Leonard Furnette, Brady Clear and Antonio Brown.
So he got two things working here. With Russell Wilson,
who's a top five quarterback, you got teams looking at
what Brady did and they want to upgrade at quarterback.
That'll solve all our issues. San Francisco's like twenty six
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and six with Garoppolo. Get rid of that. Bob will
never lose another game. Be careful about that. Similarly, I
do think you have Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson and others,
maybe to Shaun Watson looking at the New England situation,
saying Tommy's getting a little saying personnel, and look at
Tommy's weapons, and look at Tommy's defense. And he got Furnette,
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and he got Gronk, and he got a b It's
the Brady effect. And I think a little bit of
that is happening with Russell Wilson, who feels like, listen man,
I don't get any Sam personnel. I don't get any
say in the playbook. I don't get any say on anything.
Do you guys just see what happened in Tampa. I
think a lot of this. I think the timing is interesting.
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It happens after Brady wins a super Bowl and Russa's
saying time out. You got DeShawn Watson. I think I'm
better than DeShawn. He's forcing a team's hand. You got
Tommy got personnel? Say I got no personnel? Say so.
I think the timing ear is very interesting. I don't think.
I think Russell Wilson needs to be authentic. He's falling
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into a little trap of being Andrew luck And I'm
glad he came out on Dan Show and other shows
and had strong opinions. You got to be authentic about
this stuff. If you're unhappy, say it. But here's the
situation in Seattle. To me, I think Pete's got too
much power. Pete doesn't want to relink quish it, and
Russell Wilson has earned the right to say more than Gohawks.
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He is no longer this plucky, small, unique third round pick.
He's a top five quarterback in this league, running an
outdated offense who has virtually no say. And I'm not
saying they've got to be Tampa Bay with Tommy, but
he deserves more than he's getting. I think this relationship
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has gotten more strained as Russell has gotten higher paid
and has more power, and that is making some people
like Pete Carroll less comfortable. I don't think this is
a great relationship. I don't think Russell Wilson's going to
get traded. I've been told he's not going to get traded.
But it's fluid, it's imperfect, it's turbulent, it's not great.
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But I'll go back to this, and I really believe it.
Why now, Why Russell talking? Now? It's the Brady effect.
Tom went, Tom had power, Tom played GM, Tom almost coached,
and Russell saying I want a little bit of that.
I'm not saying I gotta have all of that, but
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I want a little bit of what Tom's getting because
I think I'm in his class and I don't think
he's wrong. All right, So Colin right, Colin wrong? Top
of Next Hour. J. J. Watt what do you know
the packers are interested. I want to talk about that
coming up. Albert Brier two, it's great to be back.
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I'm gonna be a little rusty. Haven't talked much for
a week, you know, playing with the dogs. It's not
great broadcasting build up, so I've been just talking to
animals for a week. It's good to be back, and
thank you so much for having me. Albert Brier. Also
Jordan Palmer, Trevor Lawrence had his pro day last Friday.
He's gonna come on. We're gonna talk about that. Be
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sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays and
noon Easter nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS
one and the iHeartRadio. I welcome back. So momentum's a
real thing. It's hard to explain. Somebody I known him,
Kevin Wild. He's on First Things First. He's a writer, producer,
a comedian. Now he's on the air every morning with
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Nick Wright and the Fellas and General Wolf. And he
had a theory years ago. He said, you walk around
New York City, it was the crowded bar theory. He said,
nobody wants to walk into an empty bar. You're with
your girl, you're with buddies. There's there's no juice, there's
no energy. He said. If I owned a bar, I
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would have a curtain and on slow nights I would
close the curtain, shrink the bar to make it look
more crowded, and then as people poured in. Because people
want to be part of momentum, they want to be
part of a party. They want energy, they want juice.
And one of the things that you're seeing like Tampa
do is that all of a sudden they created juice.
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They created momentum. Oh, here comes Brady and Grong and
Leonard Fernett. People want to be part of that. Athletes
want to be part of that. Matt Stafford chose the
Rams because he didn't feel the juice or the energy
with New England. He said, I don't want to go
to New England. I want to go to the Rams.
They're deal makers, Jalen Rams, the Aaron Donald they go,
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they're deal makers. Sometimes you have to create momentum because
people want to be part of cool things. So J. J.
Watt is now on the market. He gave up seventeen mill.
I'm done. Green Bay is where he should go. I
don't know if it's the best schematic fit. But I
know that Green Bay needs to create momentum. They're like
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a barstool missing a leg. There's three ways you can
create great teams. Tampa used all of them. You can draft,
and then there's trades, and then there's free agency. But
we know Green bayo is sounds interested and they say
they're interested, but the Packers history tells you they'll build
through the draft. They're the bar stool missing a leg.
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You can't have Farvin Rodgers for twenty five years and
two super bowls, and the reason is they got to
create some momentum here and go for it. And if
you got to overpay a little, just do it. The
Rams are aggressive, Seattle's aggressive, the Saints are aggressive. Tampa
Bay is aggressive. Jerry historically, Jerry Jones is aggressive. Philadelphia
sometimes to a fault, has been aggressive. You're passive even
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in your draft. Last year, Tampa's draft was they went
and got a rookie safety and Tristan Worth's and it
was a now draft, Let's get players now and win now.
And Tampa got a quarterback who won't play and a
running back because our running backs are going to be
free agent in one year. It was a later draft.
It's time to do stuff. Now, it's time to create
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Green Bays some momentum where talent and cool people want
to be part of it. Take the docors off, dip
it near four oh one k. Green Bay does so
many things right. They live below their means. They put
money away. Sometimes you gotta go on a cruise you
can't afford. You got to. You gotta book first class
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tickets to London, way over your budget. You gotta live
a little. I was just talking to a friend the
other day. He's taken his family to Hawaii. He goes,
we spent way too much north shore of Hawaii for
the house. I said, no, you didn't. I said, what
you don't want to do is get there and look
at the family that's no better than you, and they're
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on the beach in your seven rows back. That's allowsy vacation.
Nobody ever vacations on the beach in Hawaiian goes, you know,
I could have saved money, Yeah, I the kids are surfing.
I gotta lu aw. I could have saved four hundred dollar.
Nobody thinks that. Go for it. You'll figure out a
way to make it work. J J. Watt is perfect
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for the Packer. He does fit in need. And remember
Aaron Rodgers. Now it's thirty seven. He's not interested in
you drafting later players. He wants what Tom's getting now,
players in the drafted in free agency. Gron doesn't have
much left, but he had enough left to make a
big catch in the Super Bowl. I think you owe
it to Aaron. You owe it to now. I think
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you have to symbolically. It matters. Motivationally, it matters. Be cool,
be the cool bar. Don't walk past Green Bay and
always feel like, yeah, not a lot of juice. It's
a well run bar. The drinks are salad. They make
enough money to sustain themselves for twenty years. Don't you
want to be the bar once in a while where
the parties going on. Go get J. J. Watt. Okay,
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he's a Hall of Fame lock. He's made his money.
He wants to play there. A couple of years ago,
Peter King was interviewing him. They had these inner squad games.
The Texans and Green Bay were gonna play like a
game a couple of days later, a preseason game or something,
and they had an inner squad practice. Here was JJ Watt,
Wisconsin kid talking about it. I don't get overly emotional
for too many things, and today was one of them.
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I mean, I literally have looked through these fences as
a kid and watched practice, watched Brett Farve practice. I've
seen the bike tradition. I've stood outside the gates by
the player's lot and tried to get autographs. So for me,
this was literally a dream that I've had since I
was a little kid, and so to be able to
walk out on these practice fields and playing the shadows
of Lambeau Field, it was pretty special. He's a packer,
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by the way, PFF top seven at his position in
the NFL. Every year he's been in the NFL, he's
been top tentative position. He's had some injuries, he's kind
of expensive. But here's the reality, PF seventh best player
at his position. Go get him, make it happen, create
some momentum. Please have that third leg to the bar stool.
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Just once joy with the news. No, no turn on
the news. This is the herd line news. Well, the
Eagles are still trying to work out of trade for
Carson Win, but they're not getting the type of deal
that they hoped for. According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, a
trade hasn't happened yet because the team has not been
offered a first round pick. Now. According to Ron Jaworski,
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the Colts offered a pair of second round picks with
the possibility of an additional third or fourth round pick
down the road. So the Eagles are finding themselves in
kind of a predicaments with this Carson Wentz Jalen Hurt situation. Now. Obviously,
Indie is the preferred location for Carson Wentz. That's where
he'd like to go. Frank Wright is there. He had
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his best years with Frank Wright, and I think it's
a better fit for Carson Wentz. Obviously, everything that's happening
in Philadelphia is a bit dysfunctional, as we know from
all the stories, but also the media is going to
treat him differently. It's a more comfortable situation. They're ready
to win right now. It's actually the best move, I
think for both teams, but Philadelphia is trying to hold
out for the best seal for the Eagles. Listen, if
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you get two seconds in a third or a fourth,
if you trust Alan Hurts, who was in brief duty,
pretty impressive. Then just go for it. This is again
Carson Wentz wants out. It's not perfect. He's very expensive. Listen,
you don't know if he's ever going to recover. If
he doesn't go to Indianapolis with Frank Reich and he
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goes to Chicago with Matt Nagee and it doesn't work,
then you're gonna look back and go We got two
seconds and a third and a fourth, three four potential starters.
So to me, this situation is one you're not going
to have a happy ending. Do the best you can,
move on, start over joy. We have seen franchises, multiple
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franchises over the last four or five years. You move
on at quarterback. There's a bounty of young talent at quarterback.
You got a kid, Jalen Hurts, who's gonna get better,
not worse. Just get it done, move forward. This thing
is just it's just hanging over the franchise in Philadelphia. No.
I agree, they're being a bit greedy. And you know
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how I feel about draft picks anyway, So do a
good job in the draft. Two second round picks is
a healthy deal. You already have your quarterback in waiting
in Jalen Hurts. So if you didn't have a quarterback
and for whatever reason things have gotten so bad that
you need to move off of Carson Wentz, then I
would understand you holding out for a first round or
because you don't have a replacement, but you have Jalen Hurts.
To your point, he is very expensive. He has a
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thirty four point seven million dollars cap hit next season
that's fifth highest among quarterbacks. So he is very pricey,
but not for too long. And I do think if
he does go to Indianapolis where he is with Frank Right,
it'll be worth it to pay for him if he
can have the production he had in his best years
in Philly with Rank Right. So after working out in
front of NFL scouts last week, Trevor Lawrence is set
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to have surgery on his non throwing shoulder on Tuesday.
So this procedure will keep him out for five to
six months. He is expected to be able to participate
in training campus fall. Urban Meyer suggested that Lawrence move
up his pro day and have his surgery earlier so
that he would be back in time for training camp.
It is his non throwing arm that he had surgery on,
but this is this is something to me. Obviously doesn't
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change that he's going to be the first pick in
the draft and that he's going to start this season,
but it's it's kind of, you know, I'm assuming that
the NFL is going to make some adjustments to the
training camp situation. As opposed to last year, where we
were very much an unknown going into the NFL season.
The protocols are in place, you have, you have the
whole process for testing in place now. So I think
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that I'm assuming that the NFL is going to have
some sort of training camp for everyone moving into this season.
So I don't think it's going to be everyone coming
in at the same disadvantage as last year. Yeah. Well,
I like Trevor Lawrence. I just like watching him throw.
I know, I know, I'm not supposed to take anything
from this God, I think he just looks like he
just looks right. It just saw on so many levels
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his movement. You know, It's it's funny is Greg Kosell said,
he goes, you know, he's not more talented than Josh Allen.
And I think, and that's not a shot at Trevor Lawrence.
I think we're moving into a new era, which is great.
Because we both love football. Is that there's Justin Herbert's
and Josh. I mean just think in the last couple
of years, Justin Herbert, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, we are
in a whole new paradigm of quarterback talent. Joy. The
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kids are bigger, they're stronger, they had better arms, they
grow up with better training, they had better nutrition than
we did. Just in the last couple of years Mahomes,
Alan Herbert, They're like freaks. Nobody ran like that at
six five No. I mean, so, I just think we're
in We're just in this unbelievable time that if you
love football, the quality of that position I don't remember
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any time in my life that rivals it. No, it is,
and there's different types of quarterbacks. I mean you have
Lamar Jackson, Baker Mayfield is now working in Cleveland's Tom
Brady at forty three is in the Super Bowl and
winning against Patrick Mahomes. Like that position no longer has
a box that you have to fit in, and that's
really exciting because seams can get very flexible with what
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they do. There. So some other injury news, the Lakers
snap there's seven game stwin streak last night with a
loss one twenty two one oh five to the Nuggets,
but a scary moment in the late second quarter when
Anthony Davis aggravated his achilles injury. He didn't return. The
initial diagnosis was a righte Achilles sprain and he'll undergo
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an MRI today. A d said after the game that
everything looked good, but they want to do the MRI
just to be sure. That's a big moments, a little terrifying. Obviously,
Anthony Davis has a little bit of an injury history,
and you want them to be healthy throughout the season,
obviously going into the postseason, which is a little ways away.
But the Lakers are clicking, and this is the last
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bit of news that you want to hear, especially at
that injury like the Achilles injury obviously puts everyone on
edge because we all know how long you have to
be out for that force. So hopefully the MRI comes
back clean and he'll just see a few days off well.
And also right now, Lebron leads the West in minutes.
This is not supposed to be the case. This was
supposed to be the year Joy where it was kind
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of passing of the baton year like Lebron was gonna
give it in the postseason, in the bubble, especially in
the finals, you kind of felt like, Okay, now it's
gonna be Lebron will control the offense, but it's gonna
be kind of eighties team. Well, he's missed five games,
now he's hurt. Lebron still leads the West in minutes.
So it feels like, Okay, is there going to be
a moment in Lebron's career where physically his number two
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is their for him? And the answer is no. Now,
Dwayne Wade, it was just age. It wasn't Dwayne's fault.
And again Chris Bosh had a situation that's not Chris's fault.
But it's like, once again, you know, we know how
Michael Jordan had to kind of prop up the Bulls
front office and Dennis Rodman and Scottie Pippen. I feel
like with Lebron James, he never quite has the physical
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consistency from his number two guy. He's always like having
to kind of carry the franchise and then he crosses
his fingers and hopes he can get these brief moments
of excellence from Wade, from Bosh, from Kevin Love, from
KYI and a D. And I laughed because this was
gonna be a D's year. This was gonna be it. No,
And it's such an irony because Lebron is always healthy
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and he prefers to play with more mature veteran players
and that's something that comes with it, so it always
kind of lines up this way for Lebron. But hopefully
ads okay and he can just rehab this and get
healthy again and it's not something serious, good stuff. Joy
Taylor with the news on a Monday. Well that's the news,
and thanks for stopping by the herd Line News. So anyway,
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for those of you I missed last week, I think
most of you have an idea why I was gone.
Had a little physical scare about a week ago. Best
served to take some time off, build my energy back up.
I feel good, little rusty on the air. Haven't been
around in a week, so be patient if you can.
I'll be a little choppy today and tomorrow, but feel
really good. Had great support from all the people that
I work with, and it is absolutely great to be back.
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You can only talk to your dog so much and
then you're a crazy person. Albert Breer is going to
join us. There's a lot of NFL news. It is
the transactional business in the NFL is now rivaling or
better than the NBA. We're gonna have multiple quarterbacks. Move
Matt Stafford's already done. Keep your eye on Carson Wentz.
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According to a report to This Morning Colts and Bears
on the clock, who will offer more that's coming up
with Albert Breer, a guy that's always plugged in. Be
sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays and
noon Easter nine am Pacific. By the way, I'm no
expert on this, but I watched the NASCAR race the
restart last night and the start. I don't know why
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NASCAR doesn't move all its races to the nighttime. A
sort of God, it looks so much better. There's something
about those cars on the track under the lights at night.
It's like showtime. It looks so much better. It's just
like baseball playoff games Dodger Stadium, or you know, you
go one of these classic baseball stadiums, Fenway Park and
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you can see the sunset that it just feels like
the game is more important. But NASCAR's gonna I thought
last night under the lights it look fantastic, just feels
My wife's like, you don't watch a ton of NASCAR,
and I'm like, well, it's the Daytona five hundred, and
you put the stuff at night and it just feels bigger.
I mean, would it, Matt, You wouldn't. You don't go
to a comedy club at seven thirty in the morning.
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Time of day matters, right, stuff isn't as funny at
seven thirty in the morning. Stuff's always funnier at night.
Nobody laughs hard at seven thirty in the morning. You
laugh at night, right, Like that's that The reality is
at night events feel bigger. Like you ever watch March
Madness and there's that upset ten in the morning, Bucknell
beat somebody. You're so groggy you're not even sure it happened.
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Your biggest games, biggest races. Put him at night, all right.
Albert Brear Monday Morning Quarterback is now joining us Live,
brought to you by Mercedes Bends the best or nothing.
I guess you could laugh. I guess I guess Howard
Stern made people laugh in the morning. But my point
is it generally funny or after a cocktail at seven
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thirty pm over seven thirty, am Am, I wrong on that,
Albert or Watt. I agree. I mean, like when you
were saying that, I was just thinking about how when
you're a kid, whether you're a football player or a
basketball player, you're building up to being able to play
at night. Right, Like, when you're a kid, you start
playing football, you're maybe playing on Sunday morning. Then you know,
you get to high school and you know you're play
in the JV game and that's on Thursday afternoon. Everything's
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building up to being able to play on Friday nights,
you know. So I think that's exactly where it is. Yeah,
So JJ Watt to the Packers, it would be tight economically,
But I do think I do believe sometimes that symbolically
acquisitions matter. I thought Gronk to Tampa symbolically mattered the
bands back together. The system's coming down from New England
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that stuff, man, I think JJ Watt Packers. Is there
a hope for it? Is there a shot for it? Albert? Yeah,
I mean they're kicking it around. The Packers have some
you know, cap issues that they're going to have to
wait through. As the cap stands right now, they would
be over. They restructured David Baktari the other day. That's
a step in the right direction. So, I mean, they'd
have to work through some of this stuff, but I
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certainly think if you're responding to, if you want to
respond to what Aaron Rodgers was saying a few weeks
ago after they got eliminated, this would be a way
to do it. The same way that you know, Rob Gronkowski,
I think you know, in the beginning at least was
a little bit of an olive branch to Tom Brady
and saying, hey, hey, we're going to be aggressive here.
We're gonna do everything it takes. We're going to operate
with a sense of urgency because we know your windows limited.
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Going into getting JJ Watt now and doing it before
free agency starts, I think would be sort of assigned
to Aaron Rodgers, like, hey, we're not sitting on our
hands here, We're going to be aggressive going forward. Yeah,
So Carson wentz listen, nobody know if it can he
can be solved. The feeling is if he went to
Indianapolis with Frank Reich, those would be the best odds.
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But Chris Ballard is judicious, Chris Ballard is patient, He
is measured, They're not thrown away draft picks. So my
takeaway Chicago may be in a more desperate situation where
Ryan Pace and Matt Naggie may have a year get run.
So if you're asking me this morning where Carson Wentz goes,
I'm thinking the Colts would probably be more measured in
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their offer than the Bears would, and therefore I would
think Chicago would be the front runner this morning. I
would follow your instinct on that. I think Chicago is
the front runner this morning. And I do know that
there's a feeling inside that building from Ryan Pace, from
the coaching staff, Matt Nagee, John D. Filippo, their pass
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game coordinator, who got you know, two of the best
years out of Carson Wentz in twenty sixteen and seventeen,
is his quarterbacks coach. They believe that mechanically they can
fix him. Now, one of the issues with Carson Wentz
is that he hasn't always responded very well to hard coaching,
and so that's something they'd have to get past. Because
John D. Filippo was the bad cop in Philadelphia. I
think the issue right now, Colin is where Carson Wentz
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wants to go. I think it's become pretty clear he'd
rather go to Indianapolis. And I think part of it
now for the Eagles is gonna be okay. If our
best return right now is Chicago over Indie, then we
need to convince to Carson Wentz, this is the only
place you're going, Bud, and you need to you need
to buck up and accept this and realize that the
Bears are going to give you a good chance. And
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I can understand why Carson Wentz would be skeptical, because look, Indianapolis,
they're stable, Chris Ballard Frank right, they're going nowhere. In Chicago,
you'd be going to play for guys whose jobs are
going to be on the line in twenty twenty one.
But but I think it's pretty clear at this point
that the Bears have pushed harder than the Colts to
get Carson Wentz. The Eagles are probably going to get
their best return with Carson Wentz going to Chicago. I
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think the last piece of it then would become, can
you convince Carson Wentz is the right thing to do?
Because I think the Bears would like to at least
know that Carson Wentz is on board before pulling the
trigger on a trade. So Russell Wilson has never been
about controversy. He's you know, he's Gohawks, very positive. And
I said, there's a little Tom Brady effect here. So
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Brady goes to Tampa and he gets Gronk and he
gets for Net and they go all in. And Russell Wilson,
a couple of days after Tommy does that, is sitting
there and thinking, so, I got no saying personnel. I
got an outdated offense. I get no say in the coordinator.
And I do feel like, and I don't blame athletes
for this, I do feel like Russell's looking over at
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Tampa thinking I'm in the same class as Tommy is.
I got no juice inside the organization. That's what it
felt like to me. He just wanted to be heard
and said, you know, you can occasionally ask your star
quarterback about personnel. He can have an opinion too. That's
what it felt like to me. Well, I'll just tell
you this, like there has been grumbling from Russell Wilson's
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camp in the past, like the Seahawks have been down
this road with him before. You might remember a few
years ago it was pretty out there. Now I didn't
come from his mouth, but it was pretty out there.
How you know. He wasn't happy with the progress the
offensive line had made. They went traded for Dwayne Brown.
That solved some of those issues. You know. I think
what you're seeing here, though, Colin, is really more about
I think quarterbacks having cover now to come and say
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some of these things publicly, And I think it really
started with Aaron Rodgers. But some of this stuff is
along the same lines and along the lines of what
you're talking about too, between Rogers and Wilson. And they're
not just looking at Tom Brady, They're looking at the
other teams that were there at the end. The Bucks
were very aggressive. And look, every touchdown in that game
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and that Super Bowl game was scored by somebody who
was acquired after Tom Brady. Wow, it was Antonio Brown,
it was Rob Gronkowski, was Leonard Fournette. Those guys were
acquired after Brady, and they went to Tampa because of Brady. Now,
look at how aggressive Buffalo has been about putting people
around Josh Allen. They go and get Stefan Diggs, how
aggressive the Chiefs have been about putting people around Patrick Mahomes.
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So I think you know, Aaron rodgers willingness to come
out and say something was more about putting pressure on
the Packers than anything else. And I think Rogers saying
something then gave Wilson cover to say something in Seattle.
So I think what you have now is sort of
this pressure from some of the elite quarterbacks in the
NFL who are looking at their own situation, looking at
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the teams that we're standing there at the end and
saying to themselves, is my team being aggressive about going
aggressive enough and going and getting me help? And if
they aren't, well, now it's actually okay for me go
and say something about it. By the way, listen, you can't.
As I watched the Super Bowl, you know, I just
came back to good God, Tampa's packed. Just they have
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so many quality players, but you can't pay everybody, and
it will the Buccaneers look a little different next year.
Who are they going to have to move off? Somebody's
going to get paid and they can't afford it. Well,
the first big decision they're going to have to make
is who they franchise, and is it going to be
Shack Barrett who they franchise last year at Chris God
when my sense would be Godwin, which would mean Barrett
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would make it to the market, and as a top
pass rusher is going to get paid, so are you
willing to go the distance to pay him? Then it's
Lavante David, Rob Gronkowski. There are some star players who
you assume will be back and Dominican Sue who you
assume will be back, but at what price will they
be back? So I think they're going to have to
be at least a couple hard decisions made in the
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mosaic of all those. The good news, though, Colin, is
now that Tampa's kind of become a destination you might
be able to get. I think some of the advantage
that New England operated with over the last twenty years,
where there are going to be a few guys who
are going to wind up on that roster who are
ring chasing, and it's going to be older guys, like
third contract type guys, but it's also going to be
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like the young veteran who's twenty six or twenty seven
who goes out to the the market says, maybe I
don't quite like what I'm being offered right now, Why
don't I do a one year deal with the Buccaneers
and re establish my stock. And so I think with
those younger veterans and the older veterans, there are going
to be some opportunity for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to
get some bargins here with some guys who are looking
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to ring chase. So they lose some guys, but they
also operate with the benefit that New England operated with
over the last twenty years. Yeah, you know it should.
This is not a small thing. It's got good weather,
there's no state tax. Tampa is one of the last
larger cities in America where housing prices are realistic. It's
you know, it's it's a nice place to live. I
live there for a couple of years. To your point,
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they win, it's cheap, it's by water, it's a great
you you got Bush Gardens, you got Disneyland. You know,
it's funny. It's funny. How now I look at Tampa
and I think, what a place to go play. What
a fantastic organization. The power of Brady Now, it's wildly attractive. Right,
it's a destination absolutely, I mean like, look like and
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it doesn't matter what position you're playing, right, like, I mean, yeah,
it'd be great to catch the ball from Tom Brady
if you're a guy on that side of the ball.
But even defensive players look at what Todd Bowles has
built the last two years there, you know. I mean,
I talked to a couple of the players over the
weekend and they're excited about the next level that this
defense can go to because of the opportunities that Todd
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Bowls have been able to afford for them. So you know,
it's a it's a player friendly culture. Players have input there.
Like you said, the weather's great, no state income tax.
And if you're one of these guys who needs to
re establish his stock and go somewhere in a one
year deal, it's a good place to go. And if
you're a guy in the back end in his thirties
who says I want to go chase the ring, it's
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a good place to go. Albert Breer Monday Morning Quarterback,
Thanks so much for coming on. Good to be on
the air, a getting good to see you Albert again,
Thanks so much. Awesome, Thanks Colin. Great to hear that
you're doing better too, Thank you very much. Yeah, it
is amazing. Suddenly I look at Tampa and I'm like, oh,
This is the best place in the league to play
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great to be back live in Los Angeles. This is
the heart wherever you may be and however you may
be listening Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio and FS one. I
was off last week. May have seen the social media
accounts a little bit of a health scare. I'm fine, Joy,
Taylor is quarantining, she is undisclosed location. She is joining
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me live. How are you joy? It looked great today.
It's great to be back. Good to see and hear
your voice this morning. How are things. I'm great and
we are very happy to have you back. Colin. We
missed you and we didn't get to have our Super
Bowl show. Me and Nick did it, but obviously everyone
wanted to hear your thoughts on the Super Bowl, so
we're very happy to have you back. It's great. One
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hour from now, Colin right, Colin wrong. So my first
show back, i'll probably be rusty. But I thought this morning,
and I'd like to thank all the people that said
wonderful things. I live in Los Angeles. Grocery stores, car washes,
wherever I went, people could not have been kind or
thank you so much for that. I'll wear the rust
off a little bit today. But I did want to
spend just five minutes talking about the super Bowl because
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I didn't get to talk about it, and you know,
I love football. It's probably sixty sixty five percent of
my show. So I watched it from a hospital bed.
I took notes. Swear to god, I'm that big of
a dork. So you know, as I watched it, so
much of what we do, not just me, but you
We watch sports and then we observed something, and then
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we have an opinion on what we observed. And as
I sat there watching it from a hospital bed, sweating,
it's part of the medication notes, no distraction. I'm fascinated
with Tom Brady, and I always have thought he's a
great leader. But it's beyond that. There's a lot of
great athletes, lots in all sports. There's a handful of
great leaders. And then there's this inspirational thing that he
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can't quite quantify, where you know it's the you don't
want to disappoint somebody. Brady has the rare ability to
play poorly in stretches, three interception second half at Lambeaux
and he never loses it. He has an ability to
not be the most important person in the game Super Bowl.
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It was the front defensive front for the Buccaneers, and
yet he never loses it. That so much of what
Brady does is hard to quantify, is that he has
the ability. And I grew up watching a lot of
great broadcasters, and I thought Oprah was the best at this.
Not only was Oprah great at what she was a broadcaster,
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but she curated other broadcasters through her network, and she
actually inspired her audience. She was the first person. Ellen
did a good job to take the baton from Oprah
to kind of inspire her audience. Brady did something with
the special teams in Tampa that's hard to fathom you
watch football. I watched football for the last decade or more.
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Tampa special teams have been a tire fire, but yet
in the playoffs, often on the road, they were really strong.
Tampa's offensive line as Tom joined the team this year,
was middle of the road. Nobody thought they were elite.
Yet they went to Green Bay, Kansas City. They were
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a dominant unit against the Chiefs defensive line. Ali Marpets,
a guard, went to Hobert, came out twelfth best guard,
thirteenth best guard, twelfth best guard after Quentin Nelson. Is
he the second best guard now? Tristan Wirfs was the
highest gridded player right tackle in the Super Bowl. Ryan
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jens in the center, who's better at that position than him?
That offensive line was a middle of the pack last year.
I'm not blaming Jameis Winston. I'm saying is Derek Jeter
was a great leader, but he couldn't take the two
sixty five hitter and have him hit three hundred in
the playoffs. Lebron's a great leader, but he never could
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make Kyrie Irvan a great defender. Tom Brady made Tampa's
offensive line a powerhouse. He took their awful, unreliable special
teams and down the strength down the stretch, made them
a strength. So that's beyond leadership to me. That is inspiration,
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and so few do it. And Brady has the ability
to play poorly and stretches, to not be on the
field for long stretches, to not be that important individual games,
and yet he is inspiring other player. Scottie Miller, a
wide receiver, was on with Nick Wright last week and
discussed this very thing. Right away. We just saw his
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competitiveness and his his work ethic. I always say that
it's just a testament to who he is. He's out working.
He's done everything you could possibly do in this for
everything you could dream of doing, he's done it the
best ever do it. And he's still out there forty
three years old. I think he is I'll work in everybody.
But then as far as that fiery side, I mean
we saw that right away, even with us when we
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weren't running the right routse just getting on us, but
in a positive way too, because he wants to get
the best out He wants to get the most out
of you. This was not a talent story. And to
prove it, go back to week thirteen. Nobody would argue
what I'm about to say, including the Buccaneers. There was
a lot of turbulence until about week twelve or thirteen.
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Nobody thought this was a super Bowl team in week
ten eleven twelve, then they had a bye. From that
point that late season by they went eight no dominant
offensive line, better than average special teams, run game. So
in that moment when they finally no preseason, they finally
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got Tom in season for ten days of practice and inspiration.
It totally changed the football team. Of course, they weren't
good in September October, they had no preseason. It wasn't
until they got a bye at the end of the
year or near it and Tom could teach and mentor
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That goes beyond leadership and so much. You always hear
stories about people only use ten percent of their brain,
with rare exceptions. You hear stories about people can lift
a car or lift weight. That's not about leadership. You're
being inspired by something you're Maybe it's fear. Maybe it's
the fear of losing a child, Maybe it's the fear
of gaining something, whatever it is. When I sat in
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that hospital bed and I watched that game, so much
of what we all do with football is watch, observe,
and comment, and so much of what Brady does is
not on television. You can't quantify it, and you're going
to see all these teams. They're gonna be so many
teams rams with Matt Stafford. Watch the Bears go pay
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for Carson Wentz and the Jags are gonna draft Trevor
Lawrence and they think it's going to be this magic elixir.
It's going to solve all their issues. And they may
be better at quarterback, but the big arm and the
mobility and all the hype. I can see all that.
What Brady does, I often can't. All right, So I
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was off for just a week and Russell Wilson is
largely known as kind of boring. He always says the
right thing. Uh, you know, Russell Wilson is one of
those guys. It's always, you know, whatever's best for the team.
Go Hawks. And then I took a week off and
he turned into Howard Stern. He's like mister Hey, he's
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mister controversy. So he was going on multiple platforms and
talking and uh, he's all with Dan Patrick. Last week,
I think this is late last week, here's Russell Wilson
and opened up a whole Seattle can of worms. I
think that ultimately for me personally, you know, I think
that I want to be able to be involved because
at the end of the day, it's your legacy, it's
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your team's legacy, it's you know, it's the guys you
get to go into the huddle with and at the
end of the day that those guys you got to trust.
Are you involved in personnel decisions? Have you been involved
in personnel decisions? Not? Not as much? I don't, you know.
I think that, uh you know, do you want to
be involved russ Yeah, I think it helps. I think
it helps you to be involved more. But I think
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that's that dialogue. It should happen more often. Okay, we've
got stories now. Russell Wilson, I can tell you this
isn't happy with Pete Carroll. He likes his teammates, he
likes Seattle. It's a Pete Carroll thing. The offense is outdated.
Analytic people for several years now have rolled their eyes
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at the Seahawks offense. That's not my opinion. I've had
two different, three different Seattle players tell me they feel
like they're running in nineteen eighties offense. Since the death
of Paul Allen, Pete Carroll has unquestioned power. In my opinion,
it's a lobsided franchise where the coach has too much
power over the playbook, has too much power over his quarterback,
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has too much power over the franchise, and too much
power over John Snyder. The offensive line has been suboptimal
since they traded away Max Unger, a very talented center,
and Russ doesn't believe he has given the respect he deserves.
And the bigger issue is, let's say, Andy Reid, it
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was struggling with Mahomes. Andy Reid could still point to
that offense to go, look what I'm doing. When Bill
Belichick and Brady had their prickly moments, Belichick's defense was
still great. What is happening in Seattle is the offense
is outdated, but the defense is no good and that's
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Pete's specialty. In the last five years, Seattle's defense has
gone from fifth to eleven, to sixteen, to twenty six
to twenty second and too often Russell Wilson feels like
a life preserver for a franchise that can't stop anybody.
And what you're having now, and I will say this,
it is a little bit of a Tom Brady effect.
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Because Brady wins the Super Bowl, he got two things happening.
Teams are now saying, oh, all, he needs a quarterback,
just give us Carson went and Matt Stafford. That's happening.
But here's this second thing that's happening. Guys like Russell
Wilson are saying the hell, look at Brady's defense, Look
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at Brady's weapons. Brady went out and he got Gronk,
and he got Leonard Furnette, Brady Clear and Antonio Brown.
So he got two things working here. With Russell Wilson,
who's a top five quarterback, you got teams looking at
what Brady did and they want to upgrade at quarterback.
That'll solve all our issues. San Francisco's like twenty six
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and six with Garoppolo. Get rid of that. Bob will
never lose another game. Be careful about that. Similarly, I
do think you have Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson and others,
maybe to Shaun Watson looking at the New England situation,
saying Tommy's getting a little saying personnel, and look at
Tommy's weapons, and look at Tommy's defense. And he got Furnette,
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and he got Gronk, and he got a b It's
the Brady effect. And I think a little bit of
that is happening with Russell Wilson, who feels like, listen man,
I don't get any Sam personnel. I don't get any
say in the playbook. I don't get any say on anything.
Do you guys just see what happened in Tampa. I
think a lot of this. I think the timing is interesting.
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It happens after Brady wins a super Bowl and Russa's
saying time out. You got DeShawn Watson. I think I'm
better than DeShawn. He's forcing a team's hand. You got
Tommy got personnel? Say I got no personnel? Say so.
I think the timing ear is very interesting. I don't think.
I think Russell Wilson needs to be authentic. He's falling
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into a little trap of being Andrew luck And I'm
glad he came out on Dan Show and other shows
and had strong opinions. You got to be authentic about
this stuff. If you're unhappy, say it. But here's the
situation in Seattle. To me, I think Pete's got too
much power. Pete doesn't want to relink quish it, and
Russell Wilson has earned the right to say more than Gohawks.
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He is no longer this plucky, small, unique third round pick.
He's a top five quarterback in this league, running an
outdated offense who has virtually no say. And I'm not
saying they've got to be Tampa Bay with Tommy, but
he deserves more than he's getting. I think this relationship
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has gotten more strained as Russell has gotten higher paid
and has more power, and that is making some people
like Pete Carroll less comfortable. I don't think this is
a great relationship. I don't think Russell Wilson's going to
get traded. I've been told he's not going to get traded.
But it's fluid, it's imperfect, it's turbulent, it's not great.
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But I'll go back to this, and I really believe it.
Why now, Why Russell talking? Now? It's the Brady effect.
Tom went, Tom had power, Tom played GM, Tom almost coached,
and Russell saying I want a little bit of that.
I'm not saying I gotta have all of that, but
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I want a little bit of what Tom's getting because
I think I'm in his class and I don't think
he's wrong. All right, So Colin right, Colin wrong? Top
of Next Hour. J. J. Watt what do you know
the packers are interested. I want to talk about that
coming up. Albert Brier two, it's great to be back.
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I'm gonna be a little rusty. Haven't talked much for
a week, you know, playing with the dogs. It's not
great broadcasting build up, so I've been just talking to
animals for a week. It's good to be back, and
thank you so much for having me. Albert Brier. Also
Jordan Palmer, Trevor Lawrence had his pro day last Friday.
He's gonna come on. We're gonna talk about that. Be
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sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays and
noon Easter nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS
one and the iHeartRadio. I welcome back. So momentum's a
real thing. It's hard to explain. Somebody I known him,
Kevin Wild. He's on First Things First. He's a writer, producer,
a comedian. Now he's on the air every morning with
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Nick Wright and the Fellas and General Wolf. And he
had a theory years ago. He said, you walk around
New York City, it was the crowded bar theory. He said,
nobody wants to walk into an empty bar. You're with
your girl, you're with buddies. There's there's no juice, there's
no energy. He said. If I owned a bar, I
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would have a curtain and on slow nights I would
close the curtain, shrink the bar to make it look
more crowded, and then as people poured in. Because people
want to be part of momentum, they want to be
part of a party. They want energy, they want juice.
And one of the things that you're seeing like Tampa
do is that all of a sudden they created juice.
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They created momentum. Oh, here comes Brady and Grong and
Leonard Fernett. People want to be part of that. Athletes
want to be part of that. Matt Stafford chose the
Rams because he didn't feel the juice or the energy
with New England. He said, I don't want to go
to New England. I want to go to the Rams.
They're deal makers, Jalen Rams, the Aaron Donald they go,
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they're deal makers. Sometimes you have to create momentum because
people want to be part of cool things. So J. J.
Watt is now on the market. He gave up seventeen mill.
I'm done. Green Bay is where he should go. I
don't know if it's the best schematic fit. But I
know that Green Bay needs to create momentum. They're like
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a barstool missing a leg. There's three ways you can
create great teams. Tampa used all of them. You can draft,
and then there's trades, and then there's free agency. But
we know Green bayo is sounds interested and they say
they're interested, but the Packers history tells you they'll build
through the draft. They're the bar stool missing a leg.
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You can't have Farvin Rodgers for twenty five years and
two super bowls, and the reason is they got to
create some momentum here and go for it. And if
you got to overpay a little, just do it. The
Rams are aggressive, Seattle's aggressive, the Saints are aggressive. Tampa
Bay is aggressive. Jerry historically, Jerry Jones is aggressive. Philadelphia
sometimes to a fault, has been aggressive. You're passive even
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in your draft. Last year, Tampa's draft was they went
and got a rookie safety and Tristan Worth's and it
was a now draft, Let's get players now and win now.
And Tampa got a quarterback who won't play and a
running back because our running backs are going to be
free agent in one year. It was a later draft.
It's time to do stuff. Now, it's time to create
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Green Bays some momentum where talent and cool people want
to be part of it. Take the docors off, dip
it near four oh one k. Green Bay does so
many things right. They live below their means. They put
money away. Sometimes you gotta go on a cruise you
can't afford. You got to. You gotta book first class
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tickets to London, way over your budget. You gotta live
a little. I was just talking to a friend the
other day. He's taken his family to Hawaii. He goes,
we spent way too much north shore of Hawaii for
the house. I said, no, you didn't. I said, what
you don't want to do is get there and look
at the family that's no better than you, and they're
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on the beach in your seven rows back. That's allowsy vacation.
Nobody ever vacations on the beach in Hawaiian goes, you know,
I could have saved money, Yeah, I the kids are surfing.
I gotta lu aw. I could have saved four hundred dollar.
Nobody thinks that. Go for it. You'll figure out a
way to make it work. J J. Watt is perfect
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for the Packer. He does fit in need. And remember
Aaron Rodgers. Now it's thirty seven. He's not interested in
you drafting later players. He wants what Tom's getting now,
players in the drafted in free agency. Gron doesn't have
much left, but he had enough left to make a
big catch in the Super Bowl. I think you owe
it to Aaron. You owe it to now. I think
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you have to symbolically. It matters. Motivationally, it matters. Be cool,
be the cool bar. Don't walk past Green Bay and
always feel like, yeah, not a lot of juice. It's
a well run bar. The drinks are salad. They make
enough money to sustain themselves for twenty years. Don't you
want to be the bar once in a while where
the parties going on. Go get J. J. Watt. Okay,
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he's a Hall of Fame lock. He's made his money.
He wants to play there. A couple of years ago,
Peter King was interviewing him. They had these inner squad games.
The Texans and Green Bay were gonna play like a
game a couple of days later, a preseason game or something,
and they had an inner squad practice. Here was JJ Watt,
Wisconsin kid talking about it. I don't get overly emotional
for too many things, and today was one of them.
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I mean, I literally have looked through these fences as
a kid and watched practice, watched Brett Farve practice. I've
seen the bike tradition. I've stood outside the gates by
the player's lot and tried to get autographs. So for me,
this was literally a dream that I've had since I
was a little kid, and so to be able to
walk out on these practice fields and playing the shadows
of Lambeau Field, it was pretty special. He's a packer,
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by the way, PFF top seven at his position in
the NFL. Every year he's been in the NFL, he's
been top tentative position. He's had some injuries, he's kind
of expensive. But here's the reality, PF seventh best player
at his position. Go get him, make it happen, create
some momentum. Please have that third leg to the bar stool.
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Just once joy with the news. No, no turn on
the news. This is the herd line news. Well, the
Eagles are still trying to work out of trade for
Carson Win, but they're not getting the type of deal
that they hoped for. According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, a
trade hasn't happened yet because the team has not been
offered a first round pick. Now. According to Ron Jaworski,
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the Colts offered a pair of second round picks with
the possibility of an additional third or fourth round pick
down the road. So the Eagles are finding themselves in
kind of a predicaments with this Carson Wentz Jalen Hurt situation. Now. Obviously,
Indie is the preferred location for Carson Wentz. That's where
he'd like to go. Frank Wright is there. He had
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his best years with Frank Wright, and I think it's
a better fit for Carson Wentz. Obviously, everything that's happening
in Philadelphia is a bit dysfunctional, as we know from
all the stories, but also the media is going to
treat him differently. It's a more comfortable situation. They're ready
to win right now. It's actually the best move, I
think for both teams, but Philadelphia is trying to hold
out for the best seal for the Eagles. Listen, if
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you get two seconds in a third or a fourth,
if you trust Alan Hurts, who was in brief duty,
pretty impressive. Then just go for it. This is again
Carson Wentz wants out. It's not perfect. He's very expensive. Listen,
you don't know if he's ever going to recover. If
he doesn't go to Indianapolis with Frank Reich and he
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goes to Chicago with Matt Nagee and it doesn't work,
then you're gonna look back and go We got two
seconds and a third and a fourth, three four potential starters.
So to me, this situation is one you're not going
to have a happy ending. Do the best you can,
move on, start over joy. We have seen franchises, multiple
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franchises over the last four or five years. You move
on at quarterback. There's a bounty of young talent at quarterback.
You got a kid, Jalen Hurts, who's gonna get better,
not worse. Just get it done, move forward. This thing
is just it's just hanging over the franchise in Philadelphia. No.
I agree, they're being a bit greedy. And you know
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how I feel about draft picks anyway, So do a
good job in the draft. Two second round picks is
a healthy deal. You already have your quarterback in waiting
in Jalen Hurts. So if you didn't have a quarterback
and for whatever reason things have gotten so bad that
you need to move off of Carson Wentz, then I
would understand you holding out for a first round or
because you don't have a replacement, but you have Jalen Hurts.
To your point, he is very expensive. He has a
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thirty four point seven million dollars cap hit next season
that's fifth highest among quarterbacks. So he is very pricey,
but not for too long. And I do think if
he does go to Indianapolis where he is with Frank Right,
it'll be worth it to pay for him if he
can have the production he had in his best years
in Philly with Rank Right. So after working out in
front of NFL scouts last week, Trevor Lawrence is set
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to have surgery on his non throwing shoulder on Tuesday.
So this procedure will keep him out for five to
six months. He is expected to be able to participate
in training campus fall. Urban Meyer suggested that Lawrence move
up his pro day and have his surgery earlier so
that he would be back in time for training camp.
It is his non throwing arm that he had surgery on,
but this is this is something to me. Obviously doesn't
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change that he's going to be the first pick in
the draft and that he's going to start this season,
but it's it's kind of, you know, I'm assuming that
the NFL is going to make some adjustments to the
training camp situation. As opposed to last year, where we
were very much an unknown going into the NFL season.
The protocols are in place, you have, you have the
whole process for testing in place now. So I think
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that I'm assuming that the NFL is going to have
some sort of training camp for everyone moving into this season.
So I don't think it's going to be everyone coming
in at the same disadvantage as last year. Yeah. Well,
I like Trevor Lawrence. I just like watching him throw.
I know, I know, I'm not supposed to take anything
from this God, I think he just looks like he
just looks right. It just saw on so many levels
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his movement. You know, It's it's funny is Greg Kosell said,
he goes, you know, he's not more talented than Josh Allen.
And I think, and that's not a shot at Trevor Lawrence.
I think we're moving into a new era, which is great.
Because we both love football. Is that there's Justin Herbert's
and Josh. I mean just think in the last couple
of years, Justin Herbert, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, we are
in a whole new paradigm of quarterback talent. Joy. The
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kids are bigger, they're stronger, they had better arms, they
grow up with better training, they had better nutrition than
we did. Just in the last couple of years Mahomes,
Alan Herbert, They're like freaks. Nobody ran like that at
six five No. I mean, so, I just think we're
in We're just in this unbelievable time that if you
love football, the quality of that position I don't remember
(25:35):
any time in my life that rivals it. No, it is,
and there's different types of quarterbacks. I mean you have
Lamar Jackson, Baker Mayfield is now working in Cleveland's Tom
Brady at forty three is in the Super Bowl and
winning against Patrick Mahomes. Like that position no longer has
a box that you have to fit in, and that's
really exciting because seams can get very flexible with what
(25:56):
they do. There. So some other injury news, the Lakers
snap there's seven game stwin streak last night with a
loss one twenty two one oh five to the Nuggets,
but a scary moment in the late second quarter when
Anthony Davis aggravated his achilles injury. He didn't return. The
initial diagnosis was a righte Achilles sprain and he'll undergo
(26:16):
an MRI today. A d said after the game that
everything looked good, but they want to do the MRI
just to be sure. That's a big moments, a little terrifying. Obviously,
Anthony Davis has a little bit of an injury history,
and you want them to be healthy throughout the season,
obviously going into the postseason, which is a little ways away.
But the Lakers are clicking, and this is the last
(26:39):
bit of news that you want to hear, especially at
that injury like the Achilles injury obviously puts everyone on
edge because we all know how long you have to
be out for that force. So hopefully the MRI comes
back clean and he'll just see a few days off well.
And also right now, Lebron leads the West in minutes.
This is not supposed to be the case. This was
supposed to be the year Joy where it was kind
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of passing of the baton year like Lebron was gonna
give it in the postseason, in the bubble, especially in
the finals, you kind of felt like, Okay, now it's
gonna be Lebron will control the offense, but it's gonna
be kind of eighties team. Well, he's missed five games,
now he's hurt. Lebron still leads the West in minutes.
So it feels like, Okay, is there going to be
a moment in Lebron's career where physically his number two
(27:24):
is their for him? And the answer is no. Now,
Dwayne Wade, it was just age. It wasn't Dwayne's fault.
And again Chris Bosh had a situation that's not Chris's fault.
But it's like, once again, you know, we know how
Michael Jordan had to kind of prop up the Bulls
front office and Dennis Rodman and Scottie Pippen. I feel
like with Lebron James, he never quite has the physical
(27:48):
consistency from his number two guy. He's always like having
to kind of carry the franchise and then he crosses
his fingers and hopes he can get these brief moments
of excellence from Wade, from Bosh, from Kevin Love, from
KYI and a D. And I laughed because this was
gonna be a D's year. This was gonna be it. No,
And it's such an irony because Lebron is always healthy
(28:11):
and he prefers to play with more mature veteran players
and that's something that comes with it, so it always
kind of lines up this way for Lebron. But hopefully
ads okay and he can just rehab this and get
healthy again and it's not something serious, good stuff. Joy
Taylor with the news on a Monday. Well that's the news,
and thanks for stopping by the herd Line News. So anyway,
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for those of you I missed last week, I think
most of you have an idea why I was gone.
Had a little physical scare about a week ago. Best
served to take some time off, build my energy back up.
I feel good, little rusty on the air. Haven't been
around in a week, so be patient if you can.
I'll be a little choppy today and tomorrow, but feel
really good. Had great support from all the people that
I work with, and it is absolutely great to be back.
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You can only talk to your dog so much and
then you're a crazy person. Albert Breer is going to
join us. There's a lot of NFL news. It is
the transactional business in the NFL is now rivaling or
better than the NBA. We're gonna have multiple quarterbacks. Move
Matt Stafford's already done. Keep your eye on Carson Wentz.
(29:17):
According to a report to This Morning Colts and Bears
on the clock, who will offer more that's coming up
with Albert Breer, a guy that's always plugged in. Be
sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays and
noon Easter nine am Pacific. By the way, I'm no
expert on this, but I watched the NASCAR race the
restart last night and the start. I don't know why
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NASCAR doesn't move all its races to the nighttime. A
sort of God, it looks so much better. There's something
about those cars on the track under the lights at night.
It's like showtime. It looks so much better. It's just
like baseball playoff games Dodger Stadium, or you know, you
go one of these classic baseball stadiums, Fenway Park and
(29:59):
you can see the sunset that it just feels like
the game is more important. But NASCAR's gonna I thought
last night under the lights it look fantastic, just feels
My wife's like, you don't watch a ton of NASCAR,
and I'm like, well, it's the Daytona five hundred, and
you put the stuff at night and it just feels bigger.
I mean, would it, Matt, You wouldn't. You don't go
to a comedy club at seven thirty in the morning.
(30:20):
Time of day matters, right, stuff isn't as funny at
seven thirty in the morning. Stuff's always funnier at night.
Nobody laughs hard at seven thirty in the morning. You
laugh at night, right, Like that's that The reality is
at night events feel bigger. Like you ever watch March
Madness and there's that upset ten in the morning, Bucknell
beat somebody. You're so groggy you're not even sure it happened.
(30:42):
Your biggest games, biggest races. Put him at night, all right.
Albert Brear Monday Morning Quarterback is now joining us Live,
brought to you by Mercedes Bends the best or nothing.
I guess you could laugh. I guess I guess Howard
Stern made people laugh in the morning. But my point
is it generally funny or after a cocktail at seven
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thirty pm over seven thirty, am Am, I wrong on that,
Albert or Watt. I agree. I mean, like when you
were saying that, I was just thinking about how when
you're a kid, whether you're a football player or a
basketball player, you're building up to being able to play
at night. Right, Like, when you're a kid, you start
playing football, you're maybe playing on Sunday morning. Then you know,
you get to high school and you know you're play
in the JV game and that's on Thursday afternoon. Everything's
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building up to being able to play on Friday nights,
you know. So I think that's exactly where it is. Yeah,
So JJ Watt to the Packers, it would be tight economically,
But I do think I do believe sometimes that symbolically
acquisitions matter. I thought Gronk to Tampa symbolically mattered the
bands back together. The system's coming down from New England
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that stuff, man, I think JJ Watt Packers. Is there
a hope for it? Is there a shot for it? Albert? Yeah,
I mean they're kicking it around. The Packers have some
you know, cap issues that they're going to have to
wait through. As the cap stands right now, they would
be over. They restructured David Baktari the other day. That's
a step in the right direction. So, I mean, they'd
have to work through some of this stuff, but I
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certainly think if you're responding to, if you want to
respond to what Aaron Rodgers was saying a few weeks
ago after they got eliminated, this would be a way
to do it. The same way that you know, Rob Gronkowski,
I think you know, in the beginning at least was
a little bit of an olive branch to Tom Brady
and saying, hey, hey, we're going to be aggressive here.
We're gonna do everything it takes. We're going to operate
with a sense of urgency because we know your windows limited.
(32:31):
Going into getting JJ Watt now and doing it before
free agency starts, I think would be sort of assigned
to Aaron Rodgers, like, hey, we're not sitting on our
hands here, We're going to be aggressive going forward. Yeah,
So Carson wentz listen, nobody know if it can he
can be solved. The feeling is if he went to
Indianapolis with Frank Reich, those would be the best odds.
(32:53):
But Chris Ballard is judicious, Chris Ballard is patient, He
is measured, They're not thrown away draft picks. So my
takeaway Chicago may be in a more desperate situation where
Ryan Pace and Matt Naggie may have a year get run.
So if you're asking me this morning where Carson Wentz goes,
I'm thinking the Colts would probably be more measured in
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their offer than the Bears would, and therefore I would
think Chicago would be the front runner this morning. I
would follow your instinct on that. I think Chicago is
the front runner this morning. And I do know that
there's a feeling inside that building from Ryan Pace, from
the coaching staff, Matt Nagee, John D. Filippo, their pass
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game coordinator, who got you know, two of the best
years out of Carson Wentz in twenty sixteen and seventeen,
is his quarterbacks coach. They believe that mechanically they can
fix him. Now, one of the issues with Carson Wentz
is that he hasn't always responded very well to hard coaching,
and so that's something they'd have to get past. Because
John D. Filippo was the bad cop in Philadelphia. I
think the issue right now, Colin is where Carson Wentz
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wants to go. I think it's become pretty clear he'd
rather go to Indianapolis. And I think part of it
now for the Eagles is gonna be okay. If our
best return right now is Chicago over Indie, then we
need to convince to Carson Wentz, this is the only
place you're going, Bud, and you need to you need
to buck up and accept this and realize that the
Bears are going to give you a good chance. And
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I can understand why Carson Wentz would be skeptical, because look, Indianapolis,
they're stable, Chris Ballard Frank right, they're going nowhere. In Chicago,
you'd be going to play for guys whose jobs are
going to be on the line in twenty twenty one.
But but I think it's pretty clear at this point
that the Bears have pushed harder than the Colts to
get Carson Wentz. The Eagles are probably going to get
their best return with Carson Wentz going to Chicago. I
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think the last piece of it then would become, can
you convince Carson Wentz is the right thing to do?
Because I think the Bears would like to at least
know that Carson Wentz is on board before pulling the
trigger on a trade. So Russell Wilson has never been
about controversy. He's you know, he's Gohawks, very positive. And
I said, there's a little Tom Brady effect here. So
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Brady goes to Tampa and he gets Gronk and he
gets for Net and they go all in. And Russell Wilson,
a couple of days after Tommy does that, is sitting
there and thinking, so, I got no saying personnel. I
got an outdated offense. I get no say in the coordinator.
And I do feel like, and I don't blame athletes
for this, I do feel like Russell's looking over at
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Tampa thinking I'm in the same class as Tommy is.
I got no juice inside the organization. That's what it
felt like to me. He just wanted to be heard
and said, you know, you can occasionally ask your star
quarterback about personnel. He can have an opinion too. That's
what it felt like to me. Well, I'll just tell
you this, like there has been grumbling from Russell Wilson's
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camp in the past, like the Seahawks have been down
this road with him before. You might remember a few
years ago it was pretty out there. Now I didn't
come from his mouth, but it was pretty out there.
How you know. He wasn't happy with the progress the
offensive line had made. They went traded for Dwayne Brown.
That solved some of those issues. You know. I think
what you're seeing here, though, Colin, is really more about
I think quarterbacks having cover now to come and say
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some of these things publicly, And I think it really
started with Aaron Rodgers. But some of this stuff is
along the same lines and along the lines of what
you're talking about too, between Rogers and Wilson. And they're
not just looking at Tom Brady, They're looking at the
other teams that were there at the end. The Bucks
were very aggressive. And look, every touchdown in that game
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and that Super Bowl game was scored by somebody who
was acquired after Tom Brady. Wow, it was Antonio Brown,
it was Rob Gronkowski, was Leonard Fournette. Those guys were
acquired after Brady, and they went to Tampa because of Brady. Now,
look at how aggressive Buffalo has been about putting people
around Josh Allen. They go and get Stefan Diggs, how
aggressive the Chiefs have been about putting people around Patrick Mahomes.
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So I think you know, Aaron rodgers willingness to come
out and say something was more about putting pressure on
the Packers than anything else. And I think Rogers saying
something then gave Wilson cover to say something in Seattle.
So I think what you have now is sort of
this pressure from some of the elite quarterbacks in the
NFL who are looking at their own situation, looking at
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the teams that we're standing there at the end and
saying to themselves, is my team being aggressive about going
aggressive enough and going and getting me help? And if
they aren't, well, now it's actually okay for me go
and say something about it. By the way, listen, you can't.
As I watched the Super Bowl, you know, I just
came back to good God, Tampa's packed. Just they have
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so many quality players, but you can't pay everybody, and
it will the Buccaneers look a little different next year.
Who are they going to have to move off? Somebody's
going to get paid and they can't afford it. Well,
the first big decision they're going to have to make
is who they franchise, and is it going to be
Shack Barrett who they franchise last year at Chris God
when my sense would be Godwin, which would mean Barrett
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would make it to the market, and as a top
pass rusher is going to get paid, so are you
willing to go the distance to pay him? Then it's
Lavante David, Rob Gronkowski. There are some star players who
you assume will be back and Dominican Sue who you
assume will be back, but at what price will they
be back? So I think they're going to have to
be at least a couple hard decisions made in the
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mosaic of all those. The good news, though, Colin, is
now that Tampa's kind of become a destination you might
be able to get. I think some of the advantage
that New England operated with over the last twenty years,
where there are going to be a few guys who
are going to wind up on that roster who are
ring chasing, and it's going to be older guys, like
third contract type guys, but it's also going to be
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like the young veteran who's twenty six or twenty seven
who goes out to the the market says, maybe I
don't quite like what I'm being offered right now, Why
don't I do a one year deal with the Buccaneers
and re establish my stock. And so I think with
those younger veterans and the older veterans, there are going
to be some opportunity for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to
get some bargins here with some guys who are looking
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to ring chase. So they lose some guys, but they
also operate with the benefit that New England operated with
over the last twenty years. Yeah, you know it should.
This is not a small thing. It's got good weather,
there's no state tax. Tampa is one of the last
larger cities in America where housing prices are realistic. It's
you know, it's it's a nice place to live. I
live there for a couple of years. To your point,
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they win, it's cheap, it's by water, it's a great
you you got Bush Gardens, you got Disneyland. You know,
it's funny. It's funny. How now I look at Tampa
and I think, what a place to go play. What
a fantastic organization. The power of Brady Now, it's wildly attractive. Right,
it's a destination absolutely, I mean like, look like and
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it doesn't matter what position you're playing, right, like, I mean, yeah,
it'd be great to catch the ball from Tom Brady
if you're a guy on that side of the ball.
But even defensive players look at what Todd Bowles has
built the last two years there, you know. I mean,
I talked to a couple of the players over the
weekend and they're excited about the next level that this
defense can go to because of the opportunities that Todd
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Bowls have been able to afford for them. So you know,
it's a it's a player friendly culture. Players have input there.
Like you said, the weather's great, no state income tax.
And if you're one of these guys who needs to
re establish his stock and go somewhere in a one
year deal, it's a good place to go. And if
you're a guy in the back end in his thirties
who says I want to go chase the ring, it's
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a good place to go. Albert Breer Monday Morning Quarterback,
Thanks so much for coming on. Good to be on
the air, a getting good to see you Albert again,
Thanks so much. Awesome, Thanks Colin. Great to hear that
you're doing better too, Thank you very much. Yeah, it
is amazing. Suddenly I look at Tampa and I'm like, oh,
This is the best place in the league to play
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