April 26, 2025 • 39 mins
Where Colin was right and wrong
The truth about Celtics F Jayson Tatum
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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are rolling. First hour flies Bye. It's the Herd wherever
you may be, however you may be listening. It's NFL
Draft week and the NBA playoffs had begun in uh
in earnest.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
It was a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Clippers Nuggets was fantastic, Warriors Rockets good, especially at the end.
He throwing Orlando in the next several years. Not at
full strains right now. The Boston's gonna fly through them.
Orlando's interesting. They can't shoot, but I like the players.
Mon Carl's great, all right. Daniel Jeremiah been a scout
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for three NFL teams, is going to be joining us.
Somebody I trust absolutely when it comes to the draft.
Works at the NFL Network on their draft coverage, and
we do it every Monday at this time. Where Colin
was right, where Colin was wrong, and here we.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Go where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Well, we told you last Wednesday that talented young quarterback
Nico Iamaliava was going to transfer to UCLA, and it
became official yesterday. His family said it's not about the money,
and he didn't have much of a market. I think
he's really, really talented, but I think it was a
big turn off that he bailed on a better football program.
(02:00):
Now he is a California kid, so he's bouncing back home.
But you know, clearly Tennessee's a much better consistent football program.
So I'm not sure how it plays out, but we
broke the story and we'll take a little credit for it.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Where Colin was raw.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, I may have just missed on the Rockets Warriors series.
The Rockets offense was a mess. They shot under twenty
percent from threes, and outside of Shengoon, I don't know
what they are in the half court set. He's brilliant.
I mean, he's got the nicest touch. But Jalen Green,
according to their coaching staff, appears to be a liability.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Now.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
I do think Fred van Bleet will play and shoot better,
but I thought their size and athleticism and the home
courted man advantage and the energy would play a part.
But in every crucial possession down the stretch, I just
felt better every time with the Warriors' offensive possession, and
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the Warriors also did a great job down the stretch
offensive rebounding to secure Game one in.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Houston, where Colin was right well, I.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Predicted Aaron Rodgers would be best sir waiting until the
draft is over to make a commitment, and according to
last week, he's in no hurry and is not making
a commitment. And I don't think it's a bad decision,
by the way, asked Kirk Cousins. He got burned on it.
And also the Pittsburgh Steelers, who apparently haven't checked the
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calendar in about a decade, have forgotten the quarterback matters.
They're the only team desperate enough to be really really interested,
because even Aaron Rodgers admitted that Minnesota's not waiting for him.
So you know, listen, Aaron's talented, but he's very, very distracted,
doesn't feel like there's a huge market for him.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
And I think Pittsburgh's a bad fit. But we saw it.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Coming where Colin was raw. It's not that the Timberwolves
beat the Lakers. They pushed him around the floor for
two and a half hours. And I think the Lakers
will bring in more urgency, but Luca had one assists
often Reeves got pushed around. I think Lebron has to
be more engaged. But the te Wolves baby were humming
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from the outside, and it's not like they were just
shooting well. They were getting great looks. Forty two open threes.
Is that a playoff record?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
We looked that up, but that surprised me. It just
surprised me the lack of urgency and physicality.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
By the Lakers where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I've been saying this, if you start paying Brock pretty
fifty large, that windows closing, baby, And how about Pooka
Nakua apparently believes the same thing.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Rock perty is he gonna get a five, I don't
think so. Do you think he's gonna go with a four?
It's gonna start with a four? Yeah, high four?
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Um No, I think mid for forty five.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I think so.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I mean I think if he does that, that'd be
smart for him and them. Yeah, I mean, I think
he's he seems like a smart guy. I think he
like they're still they have a chance to still be
in their window. And I think if if he goes
for a five, the window closes, Well, did.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
We send him our transcripts? I love it where Colin
was wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Russell Westbrook can drive me crazy. But I thought he
and Jokic won Game one, a very tight game, and
you got the full Russell Westbrook experience. I mean you
got his energy, you got his rebounding, you got his toughness,
you got his defense. I thought he you know, I mean,
he's not a flawless player. This three were showing was huge,
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But you got to be fair in this business.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I don't always love him as a player.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I thought he was so valuable and you can say
whatever you want with Westbrook, but it's six'. Four that
dude is a great rebounder and he has no problem
battling six to nine guys in the. Paint he loves.
It good for him Where colin was. Raw i'm not
a huge fan Of Jackson. DART i think when you
put pressure on him and becomes a better version Of Zach.
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WILSON i just he even went to the same high.
School but you, know PEOPLE i like in THE nfl
WHO i, trust rams like. Him reportedly Day ball likes.
Him So i've talked to somebody over the weekend that
likes him a, lot an executive in THE nfl WHO
i have respect.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
For so, YEAH i watched him a lot in.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
COLLEGE i Watch Ole miss AND sec football And Lane
kevin And Jackson dart a. LOT i never looked at
it and, thought, well it was a first round. Talent
NOW i think he's better Than Will. LEVIS i think
he's better Than Zach. Wilson he's obviously a talented. Guy
there's a you know whatever it, is and you know
he can make big. Throws but he beat up on
a lot of bad teams in. College was one and
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three AGAINST bam And, georgia and that one win he
had thirteen completed. Passes but the, league we'll, see we'll
see On, thursday but the league apparently disagrees with.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Me Colin, Wright colin wrong on A.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Monday be sure to catch live editions Of The herd
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Speaker 1 (06:54):
Empacific so you know HOW i think About Jason. tATu
i think he's very, good top seven eight.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Player in THE.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
NBA i don't think he's the face of the. League
but we are so conditioned because THE nba is a
star driven. League we are so conditioned the fans the
media that if a team's, good it's got to be their.
Star but the star of The celtics is THE Gm Brad,
stevens and before, him it Was Danny. Inge so The
celtics won a playoff game last. Night they're now sixteen
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and three Without Jason, tatum and they score, more they
have a higher net, rating they shoot better Without Jason.
Tatum that is not a. Criticism THE mvp of The
celtics is their last two general. Managers it is a
roster so deep that virtually everybody's. Replaceable When washington And
Joe gibbs were Winning Super, bowls three of them with
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three different, quarterbacks it won't about the. Quarterback it just
usually is for everybody else that Wins Super. Bowls, okay
The celtics are not just a really good basketball.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Team they're a.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Great, company, culture, product depth of employee. Talent that's what they.
Are so we're all conditioned to, say, oh it's about the.
STAR i, Mean Peyton pritchard is a Classic. Celtic they
drafted him like five years ago with a twenty six.
Pick they develop, them bring him along. Slowly now they
got him into a new. Contract he's Six man of The.
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Year so this team Is this team statistically over the long,
run would not be better than Without Jason, tatum but
in short brief stints Without Jason, tatum the stats tell
you they're just as, good if not, better and more.
Efficient the ball moves a little better in all basketball
when the superstars off the.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Floor, now in the.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Case of A, jokic The nuggets can't score consistently Without.
Jokic in the case of The, bulls Without, jordan though he,
left they still won fifty five games and could win
a playoff. Series so even When Michael jordan left The
bulls for a, Year, okay and that's because The bulls
had the, coach great excellent depth they were better with.
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Him The celtics long term would be better With Jason.
Tatum they would need his ability to BE b plus
to a minus aid. Everything but last, Night orlando's a
good team and The celtics are so good at drafting and.
DEVELOPING i, mean porzingis they pretty much stole. Them Derek,
white they pretty much stole. Them and this is what they.
Do so it's not a. Criticism it's the reality that
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When washington was Winning Super bowls With Joe, gibbs it
was the coach and the.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Culture Joe. MAZZOULA i, mean think about.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
This umayadok left and we were, like, Oh Joe, mizzoula
he not ready to.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
COACH a year later you're, like he's.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Fine is he a great? Coach good enough when you
have this kind of, depth this kind of. Roster so
not every, team despite the fact that we're all conditioned
to really. BELIEVE i don't follow international soccer closely, enough
but we're conditioned in.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
That sport to.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Believe, OH i, mean if it was just about the
great PLAYER messi would have Six World cups. Right the
bottom line is The celtics are built. Different their stars
have been the gms who have won every, trade who
crush in, development who rock and free agency and regularly
steel really good.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Players one more.
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Radio, oh it's The friday After round ONE nfl.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
DRAFT a main primary.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Talk a topic Today round one of THE nfl, drafts.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
All sorts of.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Surprises Jmacair Urban meyer stopped by this, Dollar Michael urban
and Studio Shador sanders did not get.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Drafted it is. Booth you, know it's so much to
talk about this. Draft you, KNOW i.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Just watched because certain things, happen And i'm texting with
friends you know in the league all night and texting
with people all. Night wished everybody. Well they all got
back and it's not a final. Time like all my
buddies who are working in this. League in the executive
tweeked all, excited they're all fired.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Up bothen optimism maybe. Yeah and by.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
The, WAY i tend to think the guys THAT i
connect with are really smart and they all did really.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Well oh everybody did. Great everybody ate the first.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Rout but BUT i want to start with. This you,
know it's hard for me to have sympathy for some
of these losing. Franchises there's a reason the same team's
draft at the top every year and then always feel
like The.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Jets are up, there The jaguars are up. There so
think About.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Jacksonville AND i never Talked, jacksonville so this will be.
Brief they trade up in the. Draft they have a
first time head, coach a first TIME, gm a first
time offensive, coordinator a first time defensive.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Coordinator they've had one little brief three day.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Camp you don't even know your personnel good enough yet
to make a massive. Trade not to Mention Travis hunter
is unbelievably, talented but you got to deal with that
offense defensive pivot.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Thing Like.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Jacksonville you don't know your personnel well enough yet to
make a massive. Trade you got first TIME gm coach.
Coordinators how about you go through a camp or two
huge swing over compensate And Cleveland, cleveland which needs a future.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
QUARTERBACK i, mean can you just say Arch.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Manning they now have two potential top ten picks in
next year's, draft which is a significantly better draft than this.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
One So cleveland's, like, yeah we'll take picks for next.
Year this is a bad. DRAFT i, mean this was
not a very good.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Draft SO i mean to, Me cleveland and In, cleveland
by the, way also now has two of the four
first picks in round. Two So cleveland ends up getting
a first round, pick and then they get potentially Today
Travian henterson running Back Will, johnson and they already Got Mason,
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graham and they'll Have jacksonville's first round. Pick cleveland set
themselves up, beautifully and, LISTEN i Like Andrew.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
BERRY i.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Have i've said. This the ownership drives me. NUTS i
love the coach AND i love THE. Gm i'm A
stefanski fan through and, through AND i Like Andrew. BERRY
i love those. Guys they've had to overcome some nonsense,
upstairs BUT i love those. Guys cleveland ace the. Test
they get a first round pick in a better. Draft
they Got Mason, graham they're gonna end up getting potentially two.
More there's some really nice players in the top seven
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picks in this. Draft and, oh by the, way they're
not the only. Ones, Atlanta the hell are you? Doing
atlanta gave The rams again a first round pick as
they looked to Draft Matt stafford's. Replacement The rams that
told me six months ago they weren't going to draft
the quarterback in the first. Round this was not the
quarterback first round. Draft so The rams going a second
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round pick a first round pick next year in the,
draft they'll have to draft a quarterback a much better quarterback.
Draft And, atlanta who already drafted a net, rusher gave
up a first round pick for another red rusher, who
by the, way was off at least eight to ten
teams boards because of character.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Issues what are you?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Doing you don't late in round one in a week
draft give up a first round pick for a much better,
draft for a position you drafted, earlier on a player
that was off many teams.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Boards.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Lord, conversely, again savior empathy for the people who deserve,
it you, KNOW i mean like burn victims and, ORPHANS
i mean. Savior M i don't feel sorry for some
of these teams who did, well shocking The Harbaugh's Jim
harbaugh Gets Najee harris and now he's got hamped in
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the running. Back Jim harbaugh's got his Classic Stanford. Michigan
he's got his. Backfield he's ready to. Go two power
runners With Joe Alton. Slater now they're gonna go get
a tight ends and wide. Receivers by the, way who
also did, Well, Baltimore John, harbaugh The. Ravens once, again
they go to THE. Sec they get the best safety
in the. Draft he's A georgia. Guy all Those georgia
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first round guys. Work so it's like as much of
stuff changes to, much it stays the. Same i'll Give
cleveland a ton of, credit BUT i like their people. Anyway,
AGAIN i Think barry And stefanski are really smart.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
GUYS i know people that know. HIM i don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
HIM i know people that know, him people really respect.
Him BUT i, mean this is not a good, draft
and everybody knows. It this is not a great. Draft
you're you're drafting late Like. Atlanta you're giving up a
first round pick and a better. Draft now The rams
will not have a great first round. Pick next year
because they're, good But atlanta could be average so they
could get a Top they just got into the top
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ten potentially of next year's draft in a much better.
Draft in a draft they need a Quarterback, cleveland same.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Thing it's just crazy to. Me and you, know Yesterday
Diana russini came on the show and it was. Funny
remember when she came on the.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Show Diana russini said that she was Told jacksonville was
going to do something. Exciting how about just doing something.
Smart if you got first time COACH gm, coordinators what
are you doing taking massive swings on a player that
it's gonna be kind of hard to massage because he
should be a receiver but he wants to be a
corner and that that's gonna.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Be a little.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Tricky. Ech, okay let's get to the Shene Y sanders.
Thing so you, know tall you.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Something it's never a bad message to tell your kids be.
Humble humility works in the, summer it works in the.
Fall humility works in the. Spring humility works in the.
Winter don't gash your kids up too.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Much it didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Really bother me when they Retired Shador sanders. Number but
he has a five hundred quarterback who couldn't get drafted
in the first.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Round it's a little.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Much everything is, something nothing is. Everything Shadoor sanders didn't get.
Drafted there's multiple, Reports, EH o, cocky what? Ebbs But
i'm watching his draft room and the word legendary is
all over the draft. Room i'm, like can we just
can we just pull the temperature down a? Little it's
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not the end of the. World if he Had Caleb williams,
talent nobody WOULD i guess care about.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
It.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Did the whole thing is, Like, bro you Wore New
York giant. Cleats remember when he wore The New York giant? Clets,
like can we just humility is? NOT i know in,
society everybody loves the TikTok watch. Thing you know who
doesn't apparently love? IT nfl, executives you're drafting. Employees that's
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all these teams are. Doing they're drafting. Employees did you
notice the two players in the first round that moved
up about ten? Spots what a shock to a plus
plus plus character. Guys the receiver From Ohio. State we
talked about this all. WEEK a plus plus plus, character, humble,
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hardworking everybody THAT i have as a, source loved that,
kid not just the, player they loved that.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Kid.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Shocking he went from middle of the second round to
middle of the first over the last month and a.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Half what a. Shock great, player but checks all the.
Boxes you. Know the other kid that moved up about
half around.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Was Tyler, booker the guard The Dallas cowboys got team.
Captain unbelievable. Passion how do you not love that? KID i,
mean how do you not want that kid on your?
Team i'm never going to criticize any player who cares
that much about being.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
DRAFTED i want to buy that guy's.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
JERSEY i wish he wasn't a, guard it would BE i,
mean but who are the guys that moved up in
the draft team? CAPTAINS i? Mean there Was Joel klass
talking about a story yesterday About. Buka he could have
gone to THE nfl last. Year he would have been
a fourth round. Pick but he could have, gone but
he wanted to. Stay he wanted to be part of
the Great ohio state receiver. Lineage he wanted to help
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the new kid From, Alabama Jeremiah, smith the great receiver
they have, like work his way into The buckeyes like
that stuff. Matters you are drafting. Employees can we just
go back in society where hard work matters and humility's not.
UNCOOL i know you're gonna race to, TikTok and you
got all your stuff on. TikTok it's not the end
of the. WORLD i don't really. Care if you have great,
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Talent i'm drafting. You but, like something has happened In,
america where can we just have it's humility the worst.
Thing you gotta put legendary. Everywhere how about you play
a game? One just give me one game and then
you can put legendary.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
All over your.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
HOUSE i don't.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Care it's just and AND i, Listen i'm not rooting
against the. KID i Like Sanor. SANDERS i think he's.
GOOD i like him more Than Jackson. DART i may
be in the. Minority i'll get to the giants. PICK
i MEAN i like. HIM i would have drafted HIM
i needed a. QUARTERBACK i think he's bigger than people.
THINK i think he's got good. MECHANICS i think he's super,
accurate you, KNOW i, MEAN i think he's pretty.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
GOOD i think accuracy really.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Matters but AS i watched the, thing look who got
drafted higher than you, thought and look at some of
the guys who, fall AND i do think there is
something to be. Said this nil thing is going to
be tricky because guys come in now and they can
throw their own parties and buy their own. Stuff and that's.
FINE i don't resent any of that. Stuff i'm not anti.
Anybody but, listen The Pittsburgh steelers are desperate for a
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quarterback and they, moved they said not. INTERESTED i, mean
And Mike tomlins about as player friendly as anybody in the.
League so it's just let me just say this. Again
everything with a quarterback is. Something nothing's. Everything but don't
listen to the young media that's always pro player everything
with quarterbacks on all the TEXTS i get for my entire.
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Career everything with, quarterbacks you are judged. Differently it's all.
Something may not be, everything it's. Something and SO i
Think shotter is going to go very early. Today Jackson
Dart i'll get to that in a, second but it's wildly.
Fun my lead today, though was these teams that draft
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at the top every. YEAR i cannot Believe jacksonville took
that swing with all first time people in the.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
BUILDING i. DON'T i, MEAN i had a.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
SOUP i had A nfl executor that sent me a
laugh emoji after that pick and texted me and said
he is not on at least five BOARDS i know.
Of and, Again James pierce could have not been a good.
Player he's a very good. Player but you give it
up a first round pick and a better.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Draft what are we doing?
Speaker 6 (22:33):
HERE i actually like What atlanta did get into pass,
rushers shopping in THE sec where they have the best pass.
Rushers But, kyle let me make a quick point about
This Travis hunter. Trade so you know how sometimes we
as guys like to signal to women, Like, Hey i've
got A porsche Or i've got a, big big. Truck
i'm signaling to you what kind of GUY i? AM
i Think jacksonville was signaling to everybody. Else, hey we're
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gonna be. Cool we're gonna go Get Travis. Hunter everybody
loves this, generation so the great. Player we're not The
international Jack, jaguars the team that's got to play In
london every.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Year we're. Cool we're. RELEVANT i don't care that we're.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Giving up a twenty twenty six, first but we. Are
we're a cool. Team now that we've Got Travis, HUNTERSON
i THINK i don't love that.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Strategy, no, No i'm not hating on the.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Player Travis hunters a good, Player but you are a
franchise that COACH gm, coordinators you don't even know your
personnel that.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Well is he gonna Be Justin jefferson Or Jamar.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
CHASE i don't think.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
So. WELL i think he's gonna be an EXCELLENT nfl
player AND i am rooting for him AND i can't
wait to watch. Him BUT i mean everybody want, To,
hey we're gonna make the draft, exciting just make it.
Smart the team's drafting at the. Top they need. Players
they don't need fun and. Exciting they need more. PLAYERS i,
mean you look At philadelphia's, Roster detroit, Sroster baltimore's, roster
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The rams. ROSTER i mean The, rams by the, way
why do they move? Back, well they Wanted Colston. Lovelin
they wanted the tight end for The.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Raiders hours last.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Year mcvayh is looking to upgrade at tight. END i
wouldn't be surprised if The rams first pick today is
a tight end.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Or a corner From Bowling. Green, YEAH i mean they
want a tight.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
End they wanted, to so they thought about, it but
but they moved. Down why because they want the teams
at the bottom of the draft to have very few.
Needs what Does philadelphia? Need what Is Kansas, City, Buffalo baltimore.
Need baltimore already has an all pro. Safety they were,
like let's go get another. One so it's it's, just
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IT'S i Just i'm gonna save in life empathy for
those that deserve it and some of you teams that
keep doing dumb.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
STUFF i, DON'T i. DON'T i don't feel.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
BAD i Thought pittsburgh was going to be in consideration
for a lead for you today drafting a defensive.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Player, no you know, What i'll Defend pittsburgh. LEA i
JUST i. WILL i want to talk about what The bears.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
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Speaker 1 (24:59):
My coler and haven't had him on in a, while the.
PLAYMAKER i missed you to my, BROTHER i miss. YOU
i was Missing, okay let's get let's start in a Positive.
No SO i am a believer that football practice is hard,
baseball hitting the balls from batting, cage basketball practice a good, time.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Right football practice. Stinks you need guys who love the.
GAME i Watched Tyler. Booker i'm, LIKE i want that
guy on my. TEAM i.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
DON'T i don't watch interior lineman. Much to, me it's
like starter day. One now they got their, Guards dak's
coming off a second. Surgery keep those feet and knees.
Clean what did you think of? It you?
Speaker 7 (25:40):
Know AND i spoke all week calling AND i took
my strategic approach to. THIS i knew the last three
those three years we went twelve and. Five we have
a thirty twenty eight twenty seven, points so about twenty
eight twenty eight points a, game and last year we
dropped the. TWENTY i wanted Gent r McMillan's SO i
can try to put those seven eight points back on the,
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board strengthen one unit because we had too many places
that we need to field with. PLAYERS i didn't get my.
Playmakers But i'm with, you, BUDDY i got a great
player BECAUSE i always.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Talk this game is like you talked, about it's not
just about, skill it's also about.
Speaker 7 (26:21):
Will And i'll give up a little skill IF i
know this guy got the right will in the right
excitement and one of those guys that no matter, what
WHEN i come to, work he's gonna make me feel like.
Working he has the right. Attitude you need those guys
on your. Team you cannot go anywhere without. Them and
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the way he handled that drive choice when he yelled
and bigs three hundred pounds come.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Running you know.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
How hard he is to get the Fact jokers to,
run and he was running for.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Free he wouldn't even get paid for that.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Run come, on, man let's stop. PLAYING i love that.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Attitude, YEAH i loved this From Bill parcell's years as
ago when he Left, alice he went To miami as
THE gm and he took a one win team to an,
eleven and he went and stole a few of the,
cowboys not their. Stars he went and got weight room, guys,
right passionate, Guys and there's just value in guys that
love going to. Work they can build Your, now you need,
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stars but you win a lot of games on passion,
culture weight, room locker. Room, Okay NOW i am surprised
BECAUSE i like him more Than, Jackson dart Shadeor. Sanders
The steelers in his sights and they go defensive.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
Linemen and the pain of that moment was we knew
that for, years for, years not just this. Year it's
been Since Ben roethlisberger stepped off the football. Field they've
been looking and never have Given Mike tumblin his. Quarterback,
HERE i thought was the perfect situation and a perfect
opportunity to get that taken care, of and you went
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and drafted another.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Alignment that was.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Surprising BECAUSE i can't in my own mind rationalize after
the organizations had Cheated Mike tumblin of a, quarterback even
IF i couldn't imagine If Mike tumblin was on the
table SAYING i get, HIM i got my quarterback right.
Here he's right here for, us and they went by.
Him so so that was the hard take right there
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at twenty, one which Is beyond's number to be passed
for them.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
To pass your, Door why do you think people?
Speaker 7 (28:28):
Pass that blows my. MIND i don't care what anybody,
says AND i don't. Care you can't find anybody to
sit in this chair that tells you that they've seen
a kid have that kind of success on the football.
Field i've seen them through every play on the football,
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field and we were going through. This there's no way
this is an arm strength. Thing there's no way this
is what he doesn't run like the.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
STORY i don't know what about the stories that came
out this week where there's a lot of, Ego what
about that?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Stuff you need.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
Ego you need, egos especially for where some of these
teams are and for where they've. Been some of these
teams have been in a hellhole for a long long.
Time what do you think you gonna get the, greatest, little,
kindest nicest guys.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
To come pull you out of that.
Speaker 7 (29:20):
Hellhole you need people with, Egos that's What i'm talking.
About it's always the organizations that haven't won anything and
forever talking about guys with. Egos you need different people
to come change your. Culture stop talking about that guy
has an. Ego maybe the ego is big enough to
get you out of this hull. Hellhole go drive. Him
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that's what you. Need SO i don't give substance to
that kind of.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Series The cowboys team had. Ego you need.
Speaker 7 (29:49):
It you're walking on the field against some of the
greatest athletes in the. World if you don't believe in,
you how the hell can you think anyone else will
believe in.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
You so you need.
Speaker 7 (29:59):
That that's not, that that's, that that's, nothing and that
stuff that people that don't play.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
On the football. Field those are stuff that people that wear.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
The suits, say people that wear the uniforms on the football.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Field they know how important ego. Is that's the stuff
they're SO.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I think it'll be. FINE i would rather play them
at receiver than. Corner Travis, Hunter, no BECAUSE i think
it's more of an offensive. League i'd rather have twelve
targets than chasing guys over the field who are.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
DECOYS i want them in the. GAME i.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
AM i do Think jacksonville's got a new, coach a new,
coordinator NEW. Gm you got that toggle Between are you
in the? Meetings tell me about the meeting thing With Travis?
Hunter is it gonna be a.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
PROBLEM i laugh when people say this to. Me you,
know will Can travis play both? SHIVES i, said are
you joking?
Speaker 3 (30:50):
THAT i was. THERE i saw.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
IT i saw The sanders get off of a hell of.
Copter wasn't an any practice or any. MEETING A helma
cooughter and shut jokers. Down you see WHAT i. Mean
put him in the offensive. Meetings make sure he gets
his timing with the quarterback and then tell him we'll
see you in defensive. Practice he knows What cover one,
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is that's man. Coverage he knows What cover two, is
that's two safeties back and we. Uppressing he knows What
cover three, is that's done coverage with one high. Safety
you know that stuff from.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Birth you, know let's pray Keep Ti lleve once told me.
THIS i asked him about The. PATRIOTS i, said oh,
god how Long Bill? Belichick very. Sophisticated he, says. Yeah
by the end of the second, PRACTICE i knew what
it was.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
RIGHT i knew WHERE i had to be.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
Right, right especially like, them BECAUSE i gotta stop that,
guy all, RIGHT i gotta stop that. Guy that's why
he's coming in this dude here is going to BE
i have to stop that. Guy you're gonna put him
on your best, guy even after he ran twenty plays on.
Offense so You johnson was brilliant last. NIGHT i don't
care what anybody.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Says swings gave up a, lot.
Speaker 7 (31:59):
And you, UP i don't think they gave up a.
Lot they got two first. Rounders so you're saying they
gave up two first.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Rounds cleveland, now not only Did cleveland get a first
round pick next, Year cleveland got the first pick this,
morning right.
Speaker 7 (32:11):
Right right, now and that's. Why and right there, again
do you think the it ended with? Pain AND i
don't want just want to start with. Pain And i'm
talking about his day yesterday after he realized he didn't get.
Drafted now you come, Back cleveland passes. Again then then
Then i'm, like oh my, god that would throw that
would throw me for such a. Loop If, cleve if
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you can pick up a chador in the second. Round
WE i know people are saying that's BECAUSE i Love
deonn AND i, do and he's my, boy and he,
is but we've never seen anybody have this kind of
success in, college that kind of success and and and
watch this at the quarterback, position and we know how
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important it.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Is so, yeah she was.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
The most accurate quarterback in college ever with allows him.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
The hell up on the, office, LIN i, like we
both like.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
HIM i would pick him in THE. FIR i would
have piken. HIM i would have taken a vile With.
PITTSBURGH i would have they didn't need more defensive. Talent, okay,
right so you talked me Into Cam. MOARD i, AGAIN
i don't start the. FIRES i Just i'm a, journalist
SO i had HAD i SUGGESTED i.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Didn't know if Cam ward could. Lead my, friends these
were internet. RUMORS i just laid him out. There BUT
i DO i made EVERYBODY i talked to you said
at the end.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Of the, day great.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Leader he's A i.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Mean a, kid no star recruit that is actually totally
impressive to.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Me and it's the.
Speaker 7 (33:38):
Story you want going around in your locker. Room, Man
this dude works his way. Up you, know most, quarterbacks you,
guys they're trying to get everything in THE nfl locker.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Room you.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
Like you like when you hear that a kid worked
this way, up you, know and it means he's willing
to put in the work That i'm willing to follow.
Him and this kid is willing to put in the.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Work.
Speaker 7 (33:58):
MAN i talked To chris The ball yesterday about. Him he, Said,
michael the one THING i love about. Him all he
cares about is, winning and he knows how the rally
guys at quarterback in this league and In. Tennessee that's
going that's going to, be that's going to work. Great
it minds me a lot of steaming. There he, does
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and he is steaming there and that city had a great,
union AND i think this would be a great.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Union so, yeah and we have to be honest about.
This is That tennessee.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Quarterback play last year was bann and twenty one touchdowns
and twenty two picks or maybe vice. Versa so HE
J mack AND i both believe they will be a playoff.
Team that he's the only guy in the draft that
can change. Outcomes now other guys will be. Good he
could change four losses to four, wins.
Speaker 7 (34:43):
Right it put with the right situation and this is
this is the old thing. TOO i like in it
because we did the Comp Sir Patrick mahomes AND i was, Like,
OKAY i love that the way the way this dude
never gives up on a, play gives you, opportunities gives
a receipt opportunity after the first, play, second playing, third you,
know giving him more times within the, play never gives
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up on the, play and THAT i think that that's
going to be.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Great SOMETIMES i used to get mad at.
Speaker 7 (35:10):
HIM i thought he had a route on the shorter,
route he would go back in and take a deeper,
playoffink throw the, ball throw the, ball but he would
always come out on. Top i'm telling, You, tennessee you
got one of the great.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Ones so when you watch the draft and you know
it's it's interesting about. Character So Booker Tyler, booker team,
captain great. Character many, say, well he got drafted ten
to twelve spots ahead of where we. Thought and my
take is in an average, draft character matters. More And
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mecca At Book Ohio, state he was a mid second round.
Pick when the season was, over he gets drafted. Nineteenth
again a plus. Character COULD i argue that when it's
not a great, draft you were in this league. Forever
character becomes more and The cowboys part of the kid
they drafted Was All american team.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Captain.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Unbelievable do you think that stuff matters more when the
players aren't as, Great, WELL i think.
Speaker 7 (36:11):
THAT i think it matters that you have that kind
of understanding about how important it is that you show
up and be a certain way every. Day every TIME
i talk to anything or, ANYBODY i always talk about
if you're a, leader you gotta first lead yourself to
be able to lead anybody. Else that's why that person
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that that kind of infectious personality. Matters showing, up being
where you're supposed to, be putting in the, work letting
people see you put in the. Work that stuff matters big,
time especially at this. Level so you're, right you're, right
and any. Truth every year we hear people that are
dropping because we talk of the same. Character you, KNOW
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i don't like. THEM i don't like this. Football it's the.
Meritocracy it is always. Love if you can beat somebody
on the football, field you got a. Position but the real,
rest the rest of, life the rest of, life people
are making decisions on who they like and who they don't.
Like and when we get in these draft, rooms we're
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dealing with a lot of, people not. Football we're dealing
with the rest of life, people people that are making
decisions on who they like and who they don't.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Like it's not just about. Football so you're. Right character really.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Matters where do you want to See dallas go with
their next? Pick so they went and got interior, Line
they could use it, back they could use a tight,
end or do you want to see them?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Go where would you like them to?
Speaker 7 (37:39):
Go, Right my philosophy has been build one unit to be.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Dominant if we're.
Speaker 7 (37:47):
Not going if we have all of these spots that
we need to, Field we're not going to be able
to fill them. All let's build one unit and be
dominant and win this. Way and that's the offensive. Unit
and to help we got With Tyler. Booker that's the
right area we needed help. There that's the right. Spot
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let's stay on the offensive. Side, okay you see What i'm.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Saying that's that's what The bears are doing With caleb.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Right let's stay on the offensive.
Speaker 7 (38:14):
Side let's try to get this to a twenty eight
thirty pointem every, game and we can fill in on
defense and we can put it together on.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Defense now here's the caveat to.
Speaker 7 (38:25):
That we have to Get Michael parson's, signed since we
are filling in on. Defense now that we Got DeMarcus
ruins out in the locker, room we Need Michael parson
in the locker room in training, camp not holding, out
to try to get whatever guys he got on defense
together as one so they can try to play good.
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Defense when we give him thirty, points they just got
to hold people in the thirty in the. Offense give
you a thirty and we can be right back in
to think of.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
It the hall Of famer the Playmaker Michael. Urban it's
always a pleasure to see.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Him my.
Speaker 7 (38:56):
Man always great to sit in this chair and just
check it to my brother
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Draft week and the NBA playoffs had begun in uh
in earnest.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
It was a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Clippers Nuggets was fantastic, Warriors Rockets good, especially at the end.
He throwing Orlando in the next several years. Not at
full strains right now. The Boston's gonna fly through them.
Orlando's interesting. They can't shoot, but I like the players.
Mon Carl's great, all right. Daniel Jeremiah been a scout
(01:25):
for three NFL teams, is going to be joining us.
Somebody I trust absolutely when it comes to the draft.
Works at the NFL Network on their draft coverage, and
we do it every Monday at this time. Where Colin
was right, where Colin was wrong, and here we.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Go where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Well, we told you last Wednesday that talented young quarterback
Nico Iamaliava was going to transfer to UCLA, and it
became official yesterday. His family said it's not about the money,
and he didn't have much of a market. I think
he's really, really talented, but I think it was a
big turn off that he bailed on a better football program.
(02:00):
Now he is a California kid, so he's bouncing back home.
But you know, clearly Tennessee's a much better consistent football program.
So I'm not sure how it plays out, but we
broke the story and we'll take a little credit for it.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Where Colin was raw.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, I may have just missed on the Rockets Warriors series.
The Rockets offense was a mess. They shot under twenty
percent from threes, and outside of Shengoon, I don't know
what they are in the half court set. He's brilliant.
I mean, he's got the nicest touch. But Jalen Green,
according to their coaching staff, appears to be a liability.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Now.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
I do think Fred van Bleet will play and shoot better,
but I thought their size and athleticism and the home
courted man advantage and the energy would play a part.
But in every crucial possession down the stretch, I just
felt better every time with the Warriors' offensive possession, and
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the Warriors also did a great job down the stretch
offensive rebounding to secure Game one in.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Houston, where Colin was right well, I.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Predicted Aaron Rodgers would be best sir waiting until the
draft is over to make a commitment, and according to
last week, he's in no hurry and is not making
a commitment. And I don't think it's a bad decision,
by the way, asked Kirk Cousins. He got burned on it.
And also the Pittsburgh Steelers, who apparently haven't checked the
(03:24):
calendar in about a decade, have forgotten the quarterback matters.
They're the only team desperate enough to be really really interested,
because even Aaron Rodgers admitted that Minnesota's not waiting for him.
So you know, listen, Aaron's talented, but he's very, very distracted,
doesn't feel like there's a huge market for him.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
And I think Pittsburgh's a bad fit. But we saw it.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Coming where Colin was raw. It's not that the Timberwolves
beat the Lakers. They pushed him around the floor for
two and a half hours. And I think the Lakers
will bring in more urgency, but Luca had one assists
often Reeves got pushed around. I think Lebron has to
be more engaged. But the te Wolves baby were humming
(04:06):
from the outside, and it's not like they were just
shooting well. They were getting great looks. Forty two open threes.
Is that a playoff record?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
We looked that up, but that surprised me. It just
surprised me the lack of urgency and physicality.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
By the Lakers where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I've been saying this, if you start paying Brock pretty
fifty large, that windows closing, baby, And how about Pooka
Nakua apparently believes the same thing.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Rock perty is he gonna get a five, I don't
think so. Do you think he's gonna go with a four?
It's gonna start with a four? Yeah, high four?
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Um No, I think mid for forty five.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I think so.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I mean I think if he does that, that'd be
smart for him and them. Yeah, I mean, I think
he's he seems like a smart guy. I think he
like they're still they have a chance to still be
in their window. And I think if if he goes
for a five, the window closes, Well, did.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
We send him our transcripts? I love it where Colin
was wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Russell Westbrook can drive me crazy. But I thought he
and Jokic won Game one, a very tight game, and
you got the full Russell Westbrook experience. I mean you
got his energy, you got his rebounding, you got his toughness,
you got his defense. I thought he you know, I mean,
he's not a flawless player. This three were showing was huge,
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But you got to be fair in this business.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I don't always love him as a player.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I thought he was so valuable and you can say
whatever you want with Westbrook, but it's six'. Four that
dude is a great rebounder and he has no problem
battling six to nine guys in the. Paint he loves.
It good for him Where colin was. Raw i'm not
a huge fan Of Jackson. DART i think when you
put pressure on him and becomes a better version Of Zach.
(05:59):
WILSON i just he even went to the same high.
School but you, know PEOPLE i like in THE nfl
WHO i, trust rams like. Him reportedly Day ball likes.
Him So i've talked to somebody over the weekend that
likes him a, lot an executive in THE nfl WHO
i have respect.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
For so, YEAH i watched him a lot in.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
COLLEGE i Watch Ole miss AND sec football And Lane
kevin And Jackson dart a. LOT i never looked at
it and, thought, well it was a first round. Talent
NOW i think he's better Than Will. LEVIS i think
he's better Than Zach. Wilson he's obviously a talented. Guy
there's a you know whatever it, is and you know
he can make big. Throws but he beat up on
a lot of bad teams in. College was one and
(06:39):
three AGAINST bam And, georgia and that one win he
had thirteen completed. Passes but the, league we'll, see we'll
see On, thursday but the league apparently disagrees with.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Me Colin, Wright colin wrong on A.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
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Speaker 1 (06:54):
Empacific so you know HOW i think About Jason. tATu
i think he's very, good top seven eight.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Player in THE.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
NBA i don't think he's the face of the. League
but we are so conditioned because THE nba is a
star driven. League we are so conditioned the fans the
media that if a team's, good it's got to be their.
Star but the star of The celtics is THE Gm Brad,
stevens and before, him it Was Danny. Inge so The
celtics won a playoff game last. Night they're now sixteen
(07:22):
and three Without Jason, tatum and they score, more they
have a higher net, rating they shoot better Without Jason.
Tatum that is not a. Criticism THE mvp of The
celtics is their last two general. Managers it is a
roster so deep that virtually everybody's. Replaceable When washington And
Joe gibbs were Winning Super, bowls three of them with
(07:43):
three different, quarterbacks it won't about the. Quarterback it just
usually is for everybody else that Wins Super. Bowls, okay
The celtics are not just a really good basketball.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Team they're a.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Great, company, culture, product depth of employee. Talent that's what they.
Are so we're all conditioned to, say, oh it's about the.
STAR i, Mean Peyton pritchard is a Classic. Celtic they
drafted him like five years ago with a twenty six.
Pick they develop, them bring him along. Slowly now they
got him into a new. Contract he's Six man of The.
(08:15):
Year so this team Is this team statistically over the long,
run would not be better than Without Jason, tatum but
in short brief stints Without Jason, tatum the stats tell
you they're just as, good if not, better and more.
Efficient the ball moves a little better in all basketball
when the superstars off the.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Floor, now in the.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Case of A, jokic The nuggets can't score consistently Without.
Jokic in the case of The, bulls Without, jordan though he,
left they still won fifty five games and could win
a playoff. Series so even When Michael jordan left The
bulls for a, Year, okay and that's because The bulls
had the, coach great excellent depth they were better with.
(09:03):
Him The celtics long term would be better With Jason.
Tatum they would need his ability to BE b plus
to a minus aid. Everything but last, Night orlando's a
good team and The celtics are so good at drafting and.
DEVELOPING i, mean porzingis they pretty much stole. Them Derek,
white they pretty much stole. Them and this is what they.
Do so it's not a. Criticism it's the reality that
(09:25):
When washington was Winning Super bowls With Joe, gibbs it
was the coach and the.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Culture Joe. MAZZOULA i, mean think about.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
This umayadok left and we were, like, Oh Joe, mizzoula
he not ready to.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
COACH a year later you're, like he's.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Fine is he a great? Coach good enough when you
have this kind of, depth this kind of. Roster so
not every, team despite the fact that we're all conditioned
to really. BELIEVE i don't follow international soccer closely, enough
but we're conditioned in.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
That sport to.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Believe, OH i, mean if it was just about the
great PLAYER messi would have Six World cups. Right the
bottom line is The celtics are built. Different their stars
have been the gms who have won every, trade who
crush in, development who rock and free agency and regularly
steel really good.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Players one more.
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Speaker 2 (10:47):
DRAFT a main primary.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Talk a topic Today round one of THE nfl, drafts.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
All sorts of.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Surprises Jmacair Urban meyer stopped by this, Dollar Michael urban
and Studio Shador sanders did not get.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Drafted it is. Booth you, know it's so much to
talk about this. Draft you, KNOW i.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Just watched because certain things, happen And i'm texting with
friends you know in the league all night and texting
with people all. Night wished everybody. Well they all got
back and it's not a final. Time like all my
buddies who are working in this. League in the executive
tweeked all, excited they're all fired.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Up bothen optimism maybe. Yeah and by.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
The, WAY i tend to think the guys THAT i
connect with are really smart and they all did really.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Well oh everybody did. Great everybody ate the first.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Rout but BUT i want to start with. This you,
know it's hard for me to have sympathy for some
of these losing. Franchises there's a reason the same team's
draft at the top every year and then always feel
like The.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Jets are up, there The jaguars are up. There so
think About.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Jacksonville AND i never Talked, jacksonville so this will be.
Brief they trade up in the. Draft they have a
first time head, coach a first TIME, gm a first
time offensive, coordinator a first time defensive.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Coordinator they've had one little brief three day.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Camp you don't even know your personnel good enough yet
to make a massive. Trade not to Mention Travis hunter
is unbelievably, talented but you got to deal with that
offense defensive pivot.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Thing Like.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Jacksonville you don't know your personnel well enough yet to
make a massive. Trade you got first TIME gm coach.
Coordinators how about you go through a camp or two
huge swing over compensate And Cleveland, cleveland which needs a future.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
QUARTERBACK i, mean can you just say Arch.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Manning they now have two potential top ten picks in
next year's, draft which is a significantly better draft than this.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
One So cleveland's, like, yeah we'll take picks for next.
Year this is a bad. DRAFT i, mean this was
not a very good.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Draft SO i mean to, Me cleveland and In, cleveland
by the, way also now has two of the four
first picks in round. Two So cleveland ends up getting
a first round, pick and then they get potentially Today
Travian henterson running Back Will, johnson and they already Got Mason,
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graham and they'll Have jacksonville's first round. Pick cleveland set
themselves up, beautifully and, LISTEN i Like Andrew.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
BERRY i.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Have i've said. This the ownership drives me. NUTS i
love the coach AND i love THE. Gm i'm A
stefanski fan through and, through AND i Like Andrew. BERRY
i love those. Guys they've had to overcome some nonsense,
upstairs BUT i love those. Guys cleveland ace the. Test
they get a first round pick in a better. Draft
they Got Mason, graham they're gonna end up getting potentially two.
More there's some really nice players in the top seven
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picks in this. Draft and, oh by the, way they're
not the only. Ones, Atlanta the hell are you? Doing
atlanta gave The rams again a first round pick as
they looked to Draft Matt stafford's. Replacement The rams that
told me six months ago they weren't going to draft
the quarterback in the first. Round this was not the
quarterback first round. Draft so The rams going a second
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round pick a first round pick next year in the,
draft they'll have to draft a quarterback a much better quarterback.
Draft And, atlanta who already drafted a net, rusher gave
up a first round pick for another red rusher, who
by the, way was off at least eight to ten
teams boards because of character.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Issues what are you?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Doing you don't late in round one in a week
draft give up a first round pick for a much better,
draft for a position you drafted, earlier on a player
that was off many teams.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Boards.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Lord, conversely, again savior empathy for the people who deserve,
it you, KNOW i mean like burn victims and, ORPHANS
i mean. Savior M i don't feel sorry for some
of these teams who did, well shocking The Harbaugh's Jim
harbaugh Gets Najee harris and now he's got hamped in
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the running. Back Jim harbaugh's got his Classic Stanford. Michigan
he's got his. Backfield he's ready to. Go two power
runners With Joe Alton. Slater now they're gonna go get
a tight ends and wide. Receivers by the, way who
also did, Well, Baltimore John, harbaugh The. Ravens once, again
they go to THE. Sec they get the best safety
in the. Draft he's A georgia. Guy all Those georgia
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first round guys. Work so it's like as much of
stuff changes to, much it stays the. Same i'll Give
cleveland a ton of, credit BUT i like their people. Anyway,
AGAIN i Think barry And stefanski are really smart.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
GUYS i know people that know. HIM i don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
HIM i know people that know, him people really respect.
Him BUT i, mean this is not a good, draft
and everybody knows. It this is not a great. Draft
you're you're drafting late Like. Atlanta you're giving up a
first round pick and a better. Draft now The rams
will not have a great first round. Pick next year
because they're, good But atlanta could be average so they
could get a Top they just got into the top
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ten potentially of next year's draft in a much better.
Draft in a draft they need a Quarterback, cleveland same.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Thing it's just crazy to. Me and you, know Yesterday
Diana russini came on the show and it was. Funny
remember when she came on the.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Show Diana russini said that she was Told jacksonville was
going to do something. Exciting how about just doing something.
Smart if you got first time COACH gm, coordinators what
are you doing taking massive swings on a player that
it's gonna be kind of hard to massage because he
should be a receiver but he wants to be a
corner and that that's gonna.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Be a little.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Tricky. Ech, okay let's get to the Shene Y sanders.
Thing so you, know tall you.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Something it's never a bad message to tell your kids be.
Humble humility works in the, summer it works in the.
Fall humility works in the. Spring humility works in the.
Winter don't gash your kids up too.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Much it didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Really bother me when they Retired Shador sanders. Number but
he has a five hundred quarterback who couldn't get drafted
in the first.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Round it's a little.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Much everything is, something nothing is. Everything Shadoor sanders didn't get.
Drafted there's multiple, Reports, EH o, cocky what? Ebbs But
i'm watching his draft room and the word legendary is
all over the draft. Room i'm, like can we just
can we just pull the temperature down a? Little it's
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not the end of the. World if he Had Caleb williams,
talent nobody WOULD i guess care about.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
It.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Did the whole thing is, Like, bro you Wore New
York giant. Cleats remember when he wore The New York giant? Clets,
like can we just humility is? NOT i know in,
society everybody loves the TikTok watch. Thing you know who
doesn't apparently love? IT nfl, executives you're drafting. Employees that's
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all these teams are. Doing they're drafting. Employees did you
notice the two players in the first round that moved
up about ten? Spots what a shock to a plus
plus plus character. Guys the receiver From Ohio. State we
talked about this all. WEEK a plus plus plus, character, humble,
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hardworking everybody THAT i have as a, source loved that,
kid not just the, player they loved that.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Kid.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Shocking he went from middle of the second round to
middle of the first over the last month and a.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Half what a. Shock great, player but checks all the.
Boxes you. Know the other kid that moved up about
half around.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Was Tyler, booker the guard The Dallas cowboys got team.
Captain unbelievable. Passion how do you not love that? KID i,
mean how do you not want that kid on your?
Team i'm never going to criticize any player who cares
that much about being.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
DRAFTED i want to buy that guy's.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
JERSEY i wish he wasn't a, guard it would BE i,
mean but who are the guys that moved up in
the draft team? CAPTAINS i? Mean there Was Joel klass
talking about a story yesterday About. Buka he could have
gone to THE nfl last. Year he would have been
a fourth round. Pick but he could have, gone but
he wanted to. Stay he wanted to be part of
the Great ohio state receiver. Lineage he wanted to help
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the new kid From, Alabama Jeremiah, smith the great receiver
they have, like work his way into The buckeyes like
that stuff. Matters you are drafting. Employees can we just
go back in society where hard work matters and humility's not.
UNCOOL i know you're gonna race to, TikTok and you
got all your stuff on. TikTok it's not the end
of the. WORLD i don't really. Care if you have great,
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Talent i'm drafting. You but, like something has happened In,
america where can we just have it's humility the worst.
Thing you gotta put legendary. Everywhere how about you play
a game? One just give me one game and then
you can put legendary.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
All over your.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
HOUSE i don't.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Care it's just and AND i, Listen i'm not rooting
against the. KID i Like Sanor. SANDERS i think he's.
GOOD i like him more Than Jackson. DART i may
be in the. Minority i'll get to the giants. PICK
i MEAN i like. HIM i would have drafted HIM
i needed a. QUARTERBACK i think he's bigger than people.
THINK i think he's got good. MECHANICS i think he's super,
accurate you, KNOW i, MEAN i think he's pretty.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
GOOD i think accuracy really.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Matters but AS i watched the, thing look who got
drafted higher than you, thought and look at some of
the guys who, fall AND i do think there is
something to be. Said this nil thing is going to
be tricky because guys come in now and they can
throw their own parties and buy their own. Stuff and that's.
FINE i don't resent any of that. Stuff i'm not anti.
Anybody but, listen The Pittsburgh steelers are desperate for a
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quarterback and they, moved they said not. INTERESTED i, mean
And Mike tomlins about as player friendly as anybody in the.
League so it's just let me just say this. Again
everything with a quarterback is. Something nothing's. Everything but don't
listen to the young media that's always pro player everything
with quarterbacks on all the TEXTS i get for my entire.
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Career everything with, quarterbacks you are judged. Differently it's all.
Something may not be, everything it's. Something and SO i
Think shotter is going to go very early. Today Jackson
Dart i'll get to that in a, second but it's wildly.
Fun my lead today, though was these teams that draft
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at the top every. YEAR i cannot Believe jacksonville took
that swing with all first time people in the.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
BUILDING i. DON'T i, MEAN i had a.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
SOUP i had A nfl executor that sent me a
laugh emoji after that pick and texted me and said
he is not on at least five BOARDS i know.
Of and, Again James pierce could have not been a good.
Player he's a very good. Player but you give it
up a first round pick and a better.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Draft what are we doing?
Speaker 6 (22:33):
HERE i actually like What atlanta did get into pass,
rushers shopping in THE sec where they have the best pass.
Rushers But, kyle let me make a quick point about
This Travis hunter. Trade so you know how sometimes we
as guys like to signal to women, Like, Hey i've
got A porsche Or i've got a, big big. Truck
i'm signaling to you what kind of GUY i? AM
i Think jacksonville was signaling to everybody. Else, hey we're
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gonna be. Cool we're gonna go Get Travis. Hunter everybody
loves this, generation so the great. Player we're not The
international Jack, jaguars the team that's got to play In
london every.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Year we're. Cool we're. RELEVANT i don't care that we're.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Giving up a twenty twenty six, first but we. Are
we're a cool. Team now that we've Got Travis, HUNTERSON
i THINK i don't love that.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Strategy, no, No i'm not hating on the.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Player Travis hunters a good, Player but you are a
franchise that COACH gm, coordinators you don't even know your
personnel that.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Well is he gonna Be Justin jefferson Or Jamar.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
CHASE i don't think.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
So. WELL i think he's gonna be an EXCELLENT nfl
player AND i am rooting for him AND i can't
wait to watch. Him BUT i mean everybody want, To,
hey we're gonna make the draft, exciting just make it.
Smart the team's drafting at the. Top they need. Players
they don't need fun and. Exciting they need more. PLAYERS i,
mean you look At philadelphia's, Roster detroit, Sroster baltimore's, roster
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The rams. ROSTER i mean The, rams by the, way
why do they move? Back, well they Wanted Colston. Lovelin
they wanted the tight end for The.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Raiders hours last.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Year mcvayh is looking to upgrade at tight. END i
wouldn't be surprised if The rams first pick today is
a tight end.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Or a corner From Bowling. Green, YEAH i mean they
want a tight.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
End they wanted, to so they thought about, it but
but they moved. Down why because they want the teams
at the bottom of the draft to have very few.
Needs what Does philadelphia? Need what Is Kansas, City, Buffalo baltimore.
Need baltimore already has an all pro. Safety they were,
like let's go get another. One so it's it's, just
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IT'S i Just i'm gonna save in life empathy for
those that deserve it and some of you teams that
keep doing dumb.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
STUFF i, DON'T i. DON'T i don't feel.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
BAD i Thought pittsburgh was going to be in consideration
for a lead for you today drafting a defensive.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Player, no you know, What i'll Defend pittsburgh. LEA i
JUST i. WILL i want to talk about what The bears.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Did, okay be sure to catch live editions of The
herd weekdays and Newon easter not A empacific all, right.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
My coler and haven't had him on in a, while the.
PLAYMAKER i missed you to my, BROTHER i miss. YOU
i was Missing, okay let's get let's start in a Positive.
No SO i am a believer that football practice is hard,
baseball hitting the balls from batting, cage basketball practice a good, time.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Right football practice. Stinks you need guys who love the.
GAME i Watched Tyler. Booker i'm, LIKE i want that
guy on my. TEAM i.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
DON'T i don't watch interior lineman. Much to, me it's
like starter day. One now they got their, Guards dak's
coming off a second. Surgery keep those feet and knees.
Clean what did you think of? It you?
Speaker 7 (25:40):
Know AND i spoke all week calling AND i took
my strategic approach to. THIS i knew the last three
those three years we went twelve and. Five we have
a thirty twenty eight twenty seven, points so about twenty
eight twenty eight points a, game and last year we
dropped the. TWENTY i wanted Gent r McMillan's SO i
can try to put those seven eight points back on the,
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board strengthen one unit because we had too many places
that we need to field with. PLAYERS i didn't get my.
Playmakers But i'm with, you, BUDDY i got a great
player BECAUSE i always.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Talk this game is like you talked, about it's not
just about, skill it's also about.
Speaker 7 (26:21):
Will And i'll give up a little skill IF i
know this guy got the right will in the right
excitement and one of those guys that no matter, what
WHEN i come to, work he's gonna make me feel like.
Working he has the right. Attitude you need those guys
on your. Team you cannot go anywhere without. Them and
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the way he handled that drive choice when he yelled
and bigs three hundred pounds come.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Running you know.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
How hard he is to get the Fact jokers to,
run and he was running for.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Free he wouldn't even get paid for that.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Run come, on, man let's stop. PLAYING i love that.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Attitude, YEAH i loved this From Bill parcell's years as
ago when he Left, alice he went To miami as
THE gm and he took a one win team to an,
eleven and he went and stole a few of the,
cowboys not their. Stars he went and got weight room, guys,
right passionate, Guys and there's just value in guys that
love going to. Work they can build Your, now you need,
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stars but you win a lot of games on passion,
culture weight, room locker. Room, Okay NOW i am surprised
BECAUSE i like him more Than, Jackson dart Shadeor. Sanders
The steelers in his sights and they go defensive.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
Linemen and the pain of that moment was we knew
that for, years for, years not just this. Year it's
been Since Ben roethlisberger stepped off the football. Field they've
been looking and never have Given Mike tumblin his. Quarterback,
HERE i thought was the perfect situation and a perfect
opportunity to get that taken care, of and you went
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and drafted another.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Alignment that was.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Surprising BECAUSE i can't in my own mind rationalize after
the organizations had Cheated Mike tumblin of a, quarterback even
IF i couldn't imagine If Mike tumblin was on the
table SAYING i get, HIM i got my quarterback right.
Here he's right here for, us and they went by.
Him so so that was the hard take right there
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at twenty, one which Is beyond's number to be passed
for them.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
To pass your, Door why do you think people?
Speaker 7 (28:28):
Pass that blows my. MIND i don't care what anybody,
says AND i don't. Care you can't find anybody to
sit in this chair that tells you that they've seen
a kid have that kind of success on the football.
Field i've seen them through every play on the football,
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field and we were going through. This there's no way
this is an arm strength. Thing there's no way this
is what he doesn't run like the.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
STORY i don't know what about the stories that came
out this week where there's a lot of, Ego what
about that?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Stuff you need.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
Ego you need, egos especially for where some of these
teams are and for where they've. Been some of these
teams have been in a hellhole for a long long.
Time what do you think you gonna get the, greatest, little,
kindest nicest guys.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
To come pull you out of that.
Speaker 7 (29:20):
Hellhole you need people with, Egos that's What i'm talking.
About it's always the organizations that haven't won anything and
forever talking about guys with. Egos you need different people
to come change your. Culture stop talking about that guy
has an. Ego maybe the ego is big enough to
get you out of this hull. Hellhole go drive. Him
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that's what you. Need SO i don't give substance to
that kind of.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Series The cowboys team had. Ego you need.
Speaker 7 (29:49):
It you're walking on the field against some of the
greatest athletes in the. World if you don't believe in,
you how the hell can you think anyone else will
believe in.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
You so you need.
Speaker 7 (29:59):
That that's not, that that's, that that's, nothing and that
stuff that people that don't play.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
On the football. Field those are stuff that people that wear.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
The suits, say people that wear the uniforms on the football.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Field they know how important ego. Is that's the stuff
they're SO.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I think it'll be. FINE i would rather play them
at receiver than. Corner Travis, Hunter, no BECAUSE i think
it's more of an offensive. League i'd rather have twelve
targets than chasing guys over the field who are.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
DECOYS i want them in the. GAME i.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
AM i do Think jacksonville's got a new, coach a new,
coordinator NEW. Gm you got that toggle Between are you
in the? Meetings tell me about the meeting thing With Travis?
Hunter is it gonna be a.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
PROBLEM i laugh when people say this to. Me you,
know will Can travis play both? SHIVES i, said are
you joking?
Speaker 3 (30:50):
THAT i was. THERE i saw.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
IT i saw The sanders get off of a hell of.
Copter wasn't an any practice or any. MEETING A helma
cooughter and shut jokers. Down you see WHAT i. Mean
put him in the offensive. Meetings make sure he gets
his timing with the quarterback and then tell him we'll
see you in defensive. Practice he knows What cover one,
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is that's man. Coverage he knows What cover two, is
that's two safeties back and we. Uppressing he knows What
cover three, is that's done coverage with one high. Safety
you know that stuff from.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Birth you, know let's pray Keep Ti lleve once told me.
THIS i asked him about The. PATRIOTS i, said oh,
god how Long Bill? Belichick very. Sophisticated he, says. Yeah
by the end of the second, PRACTICE i knew what
it was.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
RIGHT i knew WHERE i had to be.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
Right, right especially like, them BECAUSE i gotta stop that,
guy all, RIGHT i gotta stop that. Guy that's why
he's coming in this dude here is going to BE
i have to stop that. Guy you're gonna put him
on your best, guy even after he ran twenty plays on.
Offense so You johnson was brilliant last. NIGHT i don't
care what anybody.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Says swings gave up a, lot.
Speaker 7 (31:59):
And you, UP i don't think they gave up a.
Lot they got two first. Rounders so you're saying they
gave up two first.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Rounds cleveland, now not only Did cleveland get a first
round pick next, Year cleveland got the first pick this,
morning right.
Speaker 7 (32:11):
Right right, now and that's. Why and right there, again
do you think the it ended with? Pain AND i
don't want just want to start with. Pain And i'm
talking about his day yesterday after he realized he didn't get.
Drafted now you come, Back cleveland passes. Again then then
Then i'm, like oh my, god that would throw that
would throw me for such a. Loop If, cleve if
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you can pick up a chador in the second. Round
WE i know people are saying that's BECAUSE i Love
deonn AND i, do and he's my, boy and he,
is but we've never seen anybody have this kind of
success in, college that kind of success and and and
watch this at the quarterback, position and we know how
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important it.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Is so, yeah she was.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
The most accurate quarterback in college ever with allows him.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
The hell up on the, office, LIN i, like we
both like.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
HIM i would pick him in THE. FIR i would
have piken. HIM i would have taken a vile With.
PITTSBURGH i would have they didn't need more defensive. Talent, okay,
right so you talked me Into Cam. MOARD i, AGAIN
i don't start the. FIRES i Just i'm a, journalist
SO i had HAD i SUGGESTED i.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Didn't know if Cam ward could. Lead my, friends these
were internet. RUMORS i just laid him out. There BUT
i DO i made EVERYBODY i talked to you said
at the end.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Of the, day great.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Leader he's A i.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Mean a, kid no star recruit that is actually totally
impressive to.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Me and it's the.
Speaker 7 (33:38):
Story you want going around in your locker. Room, Man
this dude works his way. Up you, know most, quarterbacks you,
guys they're trying to get everything in THE nfl locker.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Room you.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
Like you like when you hear that a kid worked
this way, up you, know and it means he's willing
to put in the work That i'm willing to follow.
Him and this kid is willing to put in the.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Work.
Speaker 7 (33:58):
MAN i talked To chris The ball yesterday about. Him he, Said,
michael the one THING i love about. Him all he
cares about is, winning and he knows how the rally
guys at quarterback in this league and In. Tennessee that's
going that's going to, be that's going to work. Great
it minds me a lot of steaming. There he, does
(34:18):
and he is steaming there and that city had a great,
union AND i think this would be a great.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Union so, yeah and we have to be honest about.
This is That tennessee.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Quarterback play last year was bann and twenty one touchdowns
and twenty two picks or maybe vice. Versa so HE
J mack AND i both believe they will be a playoff.
Team that he's the only guy in the draft that
can change. Outcomes now other guys will be. Good he
could change four losses to four, wins.
Speaker 7 (34:43):
Right it put with the right situation and this is
this is the old thing. TOO i like in it
because we did the Comp Sir Patrick mahomes AND i was, Like,
OKAY i love that the way the way this dude
never gives up on a, play gives you, opportunities gives
a receipt opportunity after the first, play, second playing, third you,
know giving him more times within the, play never gives
(35:05):
up on the, play and THAT i think that that's
going to be.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Great SOMETIMES i used to get mad at.
Speaker 7 (35:10):
HIM i thought he had a route on the shorter,
route he would go back in and take a deeper,
playoffink throw the, ball throw the, ball but he would
always come out on. Top i'm telling, You, tennessee you
got one of the great.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Ones so when you watch the draft and you know
it's it's interesting about. Character So Booker Tyler, booker team,
captain great. Character many, say, well he got drafted ten
to twelve spots ahead of where we. Thought and my
take is in an average, draft character matters. More And
(35:43):
mecca At Book Ohio, state he was a mid second round.
Pick when the season was, over he gets drafted. Nineteenth
again a plus. Character COULD i argue that when it's
not a great, draft you were in this league. Forever
character becomes more and The cowboys part of the kid
they drafted Was All american team.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Captain.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Unbelievable do you think that stuff matters more when the
players aren't as, Great, WELL i think.
Speaker 7 (36:11):
THAT i think it matters that you have that kind
of understanding about how important it is that you show
up and be a certain way every. Day every TIME
i talk to anything or, ANYBODY i always talk about
if you're a, leader you gotta first lead yourself to
be able to lead anybody. Else that's why that person
(36:32):
that that kind of infectious personality. Matters showing, up being
where you're supposed to, be putting in the, work letting
people see you put in the. Work that stuff matters big,
time especially at this. Level so you're, right you're, right
and any. Truth every year we hear people that are
dropping because we talk of the same. Character you, KNOW
(36:54):
i don't like. THEM i don't like this. Football it's the.
Meritocracy it is always. Love if you can beat somebody
on the football, field you got a. Position but the real,
rest the rest of, life the rest of, life people
are making decisions on who they like and who they don't.
Like and when we get in these draft, rooms we're
(37:15):
dealing with a lot of, people not. Football we're dealing
with the rest of life, people people that are making
decisions on who they like and who they don't.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Like it's not just about. Football so you're. Right character really.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Matters where do you want to See dallas go with
their next? Pick so they went and got interior, Line
they could use it, back they could use a tight,
end or do you want to see them?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Go where would you like them to?
Speaker 7 (37:39):
Go, Right my philosophy has been build one unit to be.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Dominant if we're.
Speaker 7 (37:47):
Not going if we have all of these spots that
we need to, Field we're not going to be able
to fill them. All let's build one unit and be
dominant and win this. Way and that's the offensive. Unit
and to help we got With Tyler. Booker that's the
right area we needed help. There that's the right. Spot
(38:07):
let's stay on the offensive. Side, okay you see What i'm.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Saying that's that's what The bears are doing With caleb.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Right let's stay on the offensive.
Speaker 7 (38:14):
Side let's try to get this to a twenty eight
thirty pointem every, game and we can fill in on
defense and we can put it together on.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Defense now here's the caveat to.
Speaker 7 (38:25):
That we have to Get Michael parson's, signed since we
are filling in on. Defense now that we Got DeMarcus
ruins out in the locker, room we Need Michael parson
in the locker room in training, camp not holding, out
to try to get whatever guys he got on defense
together as one so they can try to play good.
(38:46):
Defense when we give him thirty, points they just got
to hold people in the thirty in the. Offense give
you a thirty and we can be right back in
to think of.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
It the hall Of famer the Playmaker Michael. Urban it's
always a pleasure to see.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Him my.
Speaker 7 (38:56):
Man always great to sit in this chair and just
check it to my brother
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