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January 27, 2025 • 41 mins

C&R react to the Super Bowl 59 matchup! They have fun comparing rooting interests. What's the better story, the Chiefs possible 3-peat, or the Eagles' revenge & stopping it? They go over the "NFL is rigged" & "fixed" accusations & take calls. Plus, Jerry Jones gives another audio gem!  

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Bowl matchup? Nobody wanted?

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You know.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I'm gonna make you fired up about it. I'm gonna
get you excited about it. Look, we're gonna be out
there in New Orleans. I'm not gonna let you bring
me down. I'm not gonna let the nation bring me
down because you're fired down that we've seen this one already.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Not the same team. It's gonna be a good game,
of course. Listen, there's a sentiment on social media that
maybe we start with it might be the lamest thing
a grown man or woman could say.

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Speaker 1 (01:16):
We tire buying should be now. Listen. I know the
sentiment all season, bro, I want to see the Lions.
If it's not my team, oh at the Lions, or
you know what, the Bills, that would be a great story, Lamar.
Maybe it's his chance. And we saw the meme months ago.
It wasn't like a new meme made over the weekend

(01:37):
months ago. It said the Super Bowls we want to
see and a lot of them were Bills, Lions memes
and what we don't want to see, and all along
it's been Eagles chiefs. Well, I do think the Lions
would have.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Matched up much better versus the Eagles. Yesterday we were
a little letdown. I think the commanders let themselves down. Yeah,
they lost that game. They gave that game away. We're
gonna get all your feet, Like every Monday, we go
over things that made you go hmm, all your observations.
We're gonna play last one standing giving away prizes today
is seeing our swiggy and again just everything you'd possibly

(02:12):
absorb from this weekend's football games. Now, Rich I am
excited about it. I think we got the two best
teams there and you're seeing them click when it matters most.
Jalen hurts his balling. He's playing well. If he plays
like he played yesterday with Saquon Barkley, who seems unstoppable,
anybody beats them. But then again, Mahomes is playing the

(02:36):
best he's played all seasons. It's a different Mahomes, as
Colin said on The Herd Stars.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, it's like he made the comparison that he just
takes tars read Jordan, Tiger Woods Mahomes. There's the magic
that when it matters they turn it on, and you
saw that in Mahomes. But you know, it's interesting about Saquon.
Back to him for a second. In sports, when you
want to take a guy out of a game, you

(03:01):
could double a receiver. You could take a tight end
off the line of scrimmage, not give him any space,
take him out of the game plan. You could double
cover someone in the NBA not let them get a
shot off. The game plan was to stop Saquon Barkley.
Yet it still can't be done. It's not like they're like, oh,
maybe we should try to stop Saquon. The game plan

(03:22):
all week had to be forced. Jalen hurts to beat
you through the air. Let's stop the run. Yet they
still rush for over two hundred yards as a team.
That offensive line, it's offensive.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, seriously, I said last week that I thought the
Chiefs would win because the Chiefs played to their competition.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Which is good and bad.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Right.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
That means they lower their game versus lesser opponents, But
they still picked their game up. I mean, he scored
thirty points the first time all season against the Bills
and one, so I do think the same could be
true next well, next next week, two weeks from now
at the super Bowl. But man, Saquon Barkley makes this
team look unbeatable. I just don't know how you beat

(04:04):
this guy. I don't know how you shut him down.
I don't know how the Chiefs defense shuts this guy down.
But it's gonna be an exciting Remember, I'll tell you
how you hear You know this guy.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
You might have known Chris Jones, maybe maybe that defensive
line of the Kansas City Chiefs, because remember Washington, while
they did have an amazing year. You mean you mean sentimental,
Chris Jones, sentimental. A big man like that cries. It
makes me feel some type of way. Man, I'm just
feeling sentimental. But let's keep in mind the Commanders were

(04:34):
a great field. Good story Jayden Daniels. We're all excited
to see what he brings to the NFL over the
next handful of years. But should they have been in
the NFC Championship game. Would you have ever thought that
going into the season, No way, Jose. So with that said,
the Washington Commanders had the thirtieth ranked rush defense, so
it's not like the best d's were going against situation.

(04:58):
So they a hell of a season.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
They have to make some adjust adjustments, they have to
work on their defense, but they just played sloppy ball
from the get go and gave that game to the Eagles. Now,
before we get into all the observations, right before we
get into things that made you go, we got lots
of observations from the game to the Super Bowl. Kendrick
Lamar and Moore, why don't we talk about, well, what's

(05:24):
the rooting interest here?

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Because if this is the.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Super Bowl that nobody really wanted except for Chiefs and
Eagles fans. Right, are you more excited about the three
peat in history? Or as they said, the Chief Pete,
which doesn't even make sense. Man, it's a cheaf. Let's
let's that's you know? He said, chief Pete or a
peat chief. It was like peat chief, three chiefs chief?

Speaker 1 (05:47):
I thought he said cheat Pete. Is it a chief
named Pete? Yeah, but they were just throwing all different
variations that. It's like any It's like people just throw
a gate on the end of things. If it was sedulous,
they said three chiefs, They said three chiefs chief and
three Colleen and RidgeGate. So trademark Chief Pete.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Or you're more interested in the Eagles getting revenge with
their new and improved team led by a healthy Jalen
Hurts who looked solid yesterday and the unstoppable Saquon Barkley.
So are you looking for three pete or you're looking
for revenge here for Philadelphia?

Speaker 1 (06:24):
What is your rooting interest? As the meme goes Kansas
City Chiefs fans, little dot right there in the Midwest, Yeah,
Eagles fans. And the third option was meteor strike. Did
that's floating around today? I rich, I know mine, I
know my rooting interest here for sure. Hold it and
I want to see if we have the same one. Yeah,

(06:44):
because all along I wanted Josh Allen this to be
his year. I really, I really wanted those Bills fans
to be jumping through fiery tables. By the way, did
you see that fun story where in Kansas City they
weren't letting you buy folding chair if you had an
out of state license.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
Hilarious.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, you had to have them preventing the Bills mafia
from acting foolish. You know, may have saved a couple
broken knicks. Josh Allen must have nightmares about Patrick Mahomes.
I'm seriously, it's honestly, I wouldn't doubt it. So everyone
was saying, oh, Bill's what a great story. Like I said,
Lamar Jackson, maybe he was his y or another MVP,
but you had another, you know, another opportunity cut short

(07:26):
the Lions. If this isn't their year fifteen to two,
then when is their year? I wanted all those field
good stories if it wasn't my forty nine ers. But
now you're putting two teams that are very difficult to
root for in front of the nation, the Eagles with
Nick Sirianni's punchable face and it's franchise hatable team hatable

(07:48):
fans with those fans, Oh my god, they're right below
Yankees fans, like Eagles fans are brutal. So you're like,
do I want them to be happy?

Speaker 6 (07:58):
We're passionate, you could say, And.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Then it's like then the eye rolling this of oh
my Holmes and Kelsey and Taylor Swift and you on
that again. As the other meme I saw it goes
swifties are the worst because since they started rooting for football,
they haven't lost the Super Bowl. Meanwhile, all of us,
as other fans, have never had Super Bowl. You know,
I would like to.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
Thank Josh Allen though, for putting up what you know,
playing one hell of a game yesterday, because it prevented
a much more Taylor Swift on the screen that we
could have seen.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
But she got that Louis Vuitton eight thousand dollars outfit,
but there couldn't no but honestly, there could have been
way more of her on the screen, but Josh Allen
really kind of prevented that. Well, it was a close game,
man nine, But I still the Chiefs got the best
of them is Chiefs Eagles.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
So think about it. I have it. I have my answer.
What's the what's the more favorable rooting interest here?

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Because when you do picture Eagles fans, you know what
type of Eagles fans?

Speaker 1 (08:50):
I picture rich and I gotta let a lot of Eagles.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Fan friends, but I picture them like that hateable Yankee
fan that tried to strip the ball from Mookie Betts.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Like that kind of guy, just a guy like that,
But but he lives eighty miles south. Whereat that guy.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
I picture most of the fans like that guy. So
do you root for the Eagles or do you root
for the history? And the repeat with the Chiefs? I repeat.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
I thought long and hard about this. Yeah, and again,
I just as a New Yorker in my heart, even
though I live out here in LA I can't root
for Nick Sirianni. The only part of the Eagles that
is rootable to me is Saquon Barkley because he seems

(09:36):
like just a great dude and he's such a difference maker.
In fact, I think probably the best bet is Saquon
Barkley MVP because that's gonna the odds are going to
be pretty decent because that would include the Eagles likely
having to win for him to be MVP. So I
like that. But I am I'm taking a little pivot here,

(09:57):
and I'm rooting for history. I didn't think I would,
but I'm root for Mahomes to get it done. Three
Pete put in the history books and then maybe we
can all move on.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
Rich You're you're doing the mental gymnastics to root for
the for the Chiefs. Here, I am, you're doing some
serious mental gymnastics.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
They're trying to find some nugget of hope. The Eagles
are america underdogs. They're America's underdogs.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
That's how you ever been to Philadelphia?

Speaker 5 (10:18):
I have, I spent I spent a lot of time
in Philly. And you know what, He's got family there.
He's Philly Sam. I am dunk your head and cheese.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Oh hold up, damn byer. Have you met my new friend?

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Do you know Philly Sam Cheese steaks, Sammy Steaks, Sammy.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Sam cheesteaks, sam Wich. You gotta say, you gotta say
whiz wit wiz. Yeah, yeah, that's how you.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
Used to get your John's right, get your get your
Cooper de John's in order here? Who know Philly is
a fun team to watch? I love, I'm full you're
fully pulling for the Eagles.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Here a whiz twit.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
You know?

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Do you know? Did you know our our board up
and producer? Do you know cheese stakes? Sammy?

Speaker 2 (10:58):
I didn't know you was cheese They Stammy until now.
I thought he was big appul slam and Iowa Sam.
But you know he calls them these like underdogs, But
I think Saquon Barkley is the equalizer here. How could
you really consider them real underdogs when this dude seems unstoppable. Honestly,
I find it more impressive if the Chiefs still.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Find a way to win. Well, the Chiefs two point
The Chiefs are two point favorites. I'm not sure if
it's still too but it opened around there.

Speaker 6 (11:26):
Ridge.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
I get that, But you wouldn't be.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Impressed if the Chiefs still somehow find a way to
stop this guy and beat the Eagles. They seem unbeatable
with Saquon Barkley, So even though they're underdogs, are they
really give.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
This The sentiment that you share is is likely because
the points spread has moved to one and a half meeting.
People are betting on the Eagles. There's a there's a
part of me that listen, I'm not hating all Eagles fans.
They did win with Nick Foles, great win. Over time,
I'm Brady a legendary super Bowl? Was it the Super Bowl?

(12:02):
Brady threw for like five hundred yards and still lost?
Like it was a legendary super Bowl? The Philly Special.
They're passionate. I just, oh, I really feel the same
way the rest of the country feels. I don't know
who to root for. I do, and let me get
mine out there. We'll get to your phone calls too.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
At eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox at Covino and Rich, we'll go.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Around the room.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Sam wants the Eagles, Danny g think about it, Buyer,
spotty boy. Rich, you said the Chiefs, and I'm going
with you. Going with your buddy boy. The three peat.
The history means so much more when all's said and
done and when we look back than the Eagles winning
the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
I don't hate the Eagles. I don't hate their fans.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
In fact, I'm highly impressed with Saquon and Hurts and
how this team came back. Remember they were the team
that were in the Super Bowl. Then the next year
we counted them out. We counted them out do we
thought they were done.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
We were at Buffalo Wild Wings when the Tampa Bay
Bucks whooped him in the wildcard. It was today Night
Wildcard last year.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
I'm actually really impressed that they were able to come
back and do this again, Like people gave up on them,
People gave up on Hurts, and that dude looks like
he's playing great. So I'm not hating on the Eagles,
But what I am saying is history matters more.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
You know, when we think back to what Jordan did
in the NBA, when.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
We realize that no one in the NFL has ever
done this, The fact that we get to see it,
we get to tell our kids and our grandkids about
it in the future.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
The fact that Mahomes whether you like the Chiefs or not,
Mahomes is one of those.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Special players once in a lifetime, guys who just knows
how to win. He's more fun and that story's more
fun to root for than the Eagles.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
If you have no horse in the race, you know,
Dan Byron and I share commonality. We're students of Super
Bowl history. We for some reason love that you get
this sense of when we were kids, Remember it was
it was like Giants, Redskins, Niners, Cowboys, like the same
handful of teams consistently just beat the Broncos or the Bills.
Now it seems like the Chiefs just take turns beating

(14:05):
the Niners and the Eagles. Like it's we're getting this
rotation of your same teams that are on the losing
end of this Chief's dynasty.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
Yeah, it's funny too because I hear everything that you
and Covino and everybody's saying about this how special this
three pete is and rich I think you and I
look for something that changes the history, something that is different,
and the three peat doesn't do it. For me. It's
I want the one off. I want the new team

(14:33):
the Eagles. I guess winning their second to me would
be more of does it change history a little bit
than now we now look at them as they multiple
super Bowl champion.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Other than that, I like that, but like changing history
you know more to you, I get it. Dan. What's
interesting is we had that conversation the other day about
which of these quarterbacks will end up not winning one.
Josh Allen Lamar, Justin Herbert, We went down the list,
Dak Prescott, Jalen Hurts. While it's not all on his own,
Saquon a big part of it. Jalen Hurts would have

(15:04):
won under his belt. So the narrative that Jalen Hurts is,
you know how good is hate He'll have a Super Bowl?

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Yeah? Absolutely, And those things can extend your careers when
things aren't going well. I mean, I think, actually, honestly,
I think it's one of the thing that's kept to
Russell Wilson around a little bit longer is because he
does have that Super Bowl ring.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Oh, by the way, we would look at Jalen Hurts
a lot different the same way.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
You know, Eli Manning was a bit of a goon.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
But the fact that he beat Brady as well two
time makes him stand out. Yeah two times? No less
right and MVP. If Jalen Hurts beats Mahomes, we think
of him in a completely different category.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
We counted them out, he came back.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
And the fact that he's the guy that stops history
from happening, I think, yeah, he's viewed completely different moving forward.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
I had one friend in my house yesterday and that
was rooting for the Chiefs, everyone else rooting for the Bills.
And he brought up that Batman quote from Dark Knight.
Do you remember they quote about being a hero. You
either die a hero or you live long enough to
see yourself become the villain. And you could say that

(16:12):
about Steph Curry. You could say that about a lot
of stars, Lebron, Lebron, Michael Jordan, now Patrick Mahomes, Tom
Brady in the beginning, you remember the narrative with Mahomes
like they forgot one, Rich, you forgot one. I think
you forgot it on purpose. Hul Colgan brother. Yeah, now

(16:35):
he's a real villain. But think about it, buddy boy.
When Mahomes won his first Super Bowl, the Chiefs had
not won since Super Bowl four, if I remember correctly,
I was not alive, but they had lost, as you know,
early on to the Packers and Bart Starr. The Chiefs
had one victorious year and they went through that like

(16:58):
fifty year gap. When they won that first one against
the Niners in twenty twenty, there were Chiefs fans crying.
Everyone's like man Mahomes and Kelsey. They deserve it. But
if you're a hero long enough, if you don't die
a hero, you end up being the villain. And right
now they are the villain, and it's hard to call
my villain. You're right because they're not like unlikable guys.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Well because of Mahomes man, because I think the every
fan of football could see how special this dude is.
He's just not hateable. The fact that they win is
a bit irolly, and that's hateable. But Patrick Mahomes is
not a hateable dude unless you really weigh in all
the flopping he did in the past few cans. But

(17:39):
he took accountability, he owned up to it, and now
we're seeing a dude.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Just play in a special way where he steps up
when he has to. Dude.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
That dude was solid yesterday. So Danny G your thoughts,
Fox Sports Radio, your thoughts. You're rooting interest three P
or revenge for the Eagles.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
As much as I would like a fellow AFC West
team to do the impossible or what seems like the impossible.
The part of the Eagles story that I really like
is Siriannie Rich. I know you say he's got a
punchable face. Yeah, I can see that, But there was
a center that he lost the team, right, and then
he sort of That's the part I love. How did
he go from being this close to being fired to

(18:24):
now being in Super Bowl fifty nine.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, yeah, he talked about that too. That was pretty cool, man.
I love that.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
I think all of us can relate to that in
some sort of way where we've been at a job
where we were kind of hanging on and then things
took a turn for the good and we were part
of something big.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
And you know what, Danny, people could say what they
want and he may have a punchable face, rich, I'm
not denying that, But when all said and done, the beginning, middle, end,
end of the day, the dude wins football games, right, Like,
look at his trackord.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
He knows how to win games. So yeah, it is
a pretty cool story.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
I could see that people want to hate on the Eagles,
but I'm trying to give you reason to care. People
are bored by this story, bored by these teams. You
got Saquon Barkley, you didn't have that last time. You
got a healthy Eagles team that looks primed and ready
to win.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
They're good.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
I don't consider them underdogs, even though it's still a point.
Now you got the Chiefs who barely won every game
all year, but they still find a way and they're
going for history. There's so many cool storylines. How's it
gonna pan out? You got to pick a side? So
what you know what the spots ad refs. I'm glad
throat a couple of things. I wouldn't disparage the refs.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
By the way I was. There's something about it's just
a narrative. There's so many layers to this that I
want to get to next. And your feedback, like Kivino said,
let's light them up eight seven, seven, nine nine on Fox.
So give us your rooting interest and why, because the
general sentiment is this is not the super Bowl we
all really wanted, but this is the one we got.

(19:58):
So who are you rooting for and why? Give us
your random reason how you're pulling for the evil dynasty
known as the Chiefs or you know, in the most
unlikable fan base, you really want the Eagles fans to
be like chill, like super happy. So your thoughts on
your running interest, and I want to add one layer
to this, the social media sentiment, it's like an eight

(20:20):
layer dip that. Yeah, I'm breaking out the Super Bowl
dip spot. Here's the next layer, yell me. The people
that believe things are rigged, rigged, like, do you really think,
well there was conspiracy on that flag at the end
of the game.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Did you catch that where very where Josh Allen threw
up that you know, the prayer? And they said, Jim
NANTZK goes, oh, there's a flag on the play.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Oh wait, there's not a flag right. Who wants to
storm arrowhead with me?

Speaker 2 (20:51):
There's some speculation as to what were they going to
throw a flag on Kansas City there and on Buffalo there.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
Well, and before that, when it looked like Josh Allen
had gained the line to reach, both announcers were like, yeah,
I got to the line.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
That seemed like the closest call. Like when you see
Josh Allen down the line and the overhead all the
angles did look like if he just needed to touch
a snitky smidge of that white line, then to me,
how is it not a first down? But I don't
believe in fixes. I don't believe in this nonsense. Even
in boxing. I know there's Shenanigan's Once in a blue Moon.

(21:29):
But do you really think the NFL the National Football
League where the referees are judges and lawyers, where there's
thirty one other owners, do you think they're all gonna
go along with it? Like, oh yeah, here we go,
let's let the troops went again.

Speaker 6 (21:41):
Like you don't believe in the NFL logo super Bowl
logo conspiracy?

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Well it's my favorite. That's my favorite.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
I mean, so I loot it. Rich is right, there's
no dirty judges or lawyers.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Let's hear from you, guys. Do you believe anything is
possibly rigged? And you're rooting interest? A lot of fun
NFL Super Bowl stuff today, Cuvin on Rich we are
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(24:13):
thought about. Also, we're talking about our rooting interest to
the Super Bowl, and it's very difficult to pick two
teams that not many people want to root for. How
about this our new pal, Dallas Goddard, who we worked with,
and we're doing stuff here at Fox Sports Radio with
any interests because says it'll be nice to see him
get a ring. He's our new pal.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
You know, you learn to root for players when you
do what we do. And it's okay as a fan too.
There's certain players you like. There' certain players you identify
with and root for, and we got to interview him.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
He's a nice dude.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
I was definitely pulling for him when I saw him
making a few plays this weekend.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
In fact, I was watching with the family.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Steven, my mother, Steven, that was the guy on your show?

Speaker 1 (24:52):
He was so nice. Aren't you happy for him?

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Like?

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, yeah, Mom, Yeah, he's great.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
So you gotta find reasons because, like Rich said, for
most of the country, we've been there, done that, we've
seen it. It's a big eye roll because you do
all the speculating the entire season. Oh who's gonna do it,
who's gonna make it? Oh, man, it's gonna be the Lines,
it's gonna be the Bills. Oh it's gonna be the Ravens.
And then it's the same two usual suspects that.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
We just saw, and it's the Chiefs again.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
It's like it does make you feel like why did
I even watch all year just to get the obvious result?

Speaker 1 (25:29):
But we're trying to give you reasons to care. Yeah,
you know what, let's go the feedback most interactive show
here on Fox Sports Radio, Mike and Ohio. The other
layer of this, you see on social media people talking
about the NFL being rigged, and I just can't get
with that conversation. I'm like, listen, I love a conspiracy
as much as the next guy. I'll talk about UFOs

(25:51):
or pyramids or JFK or anything all day. But if
you really want me to believe that, they make it
sound like they get a call. Right, Yeah, we're calling
down to the refs on the sideline. Vegas needs the
chiefs like thin that's happening? Who they call like some
mystery guy like the banker and dealer? No deal? Oh yeah, yeah,

(26:14):
hold up, the offer has gone up. Thanks, Howie Mandel.
Who do you think gets the call? Like? Do we
think the refs? And as I pointed out before, I mean,
I know, I know most NFL fans know this. Most
of them are judges, right, They're not just like Tom
Dick or Harry's off the streets. These are men of honor.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
But is it I don't know, after Tom Dick or
maybe Manny Moe's and Jack's. I'm not certain, but your
thoughts on it if you just joined us, Both Rich
and I are rooting for history. Here the Chief Pete,
the Three Pete, the three chief Over, the Revenge of
the Eagles.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Els are not underdogs by any means. I'm wishy washy.
I'll tell you what I'm gonna do. You can't be wishing,
but I can because you have been. Now give you
the example. Sometimes Kavino and I have watched a fight, okay,
and you don't really know who you're rooting for, and
then the first round hits, and something inside of you

(27:13):
tells you, yeah, you know that's true, because you're like,
it's usually someone has an advantage and you want to
see that other person figure out a way to beat
that advantage.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Like you will, right, you make your mind up, You'll watch.
Like I was rooting for the Bills to beat the
Ravens a couple of weeks ago, but when the Ravens
were making their comeback, then I'm like, oh, maybe I
want the Ravens. I think you your your mind's allowed
to change. Like you could be watching a prize fight
and be like, I don't know who I want to
win by round three, Like you could be like, yeah,
let's go.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Let's the best example of this is when the Russians
turned on Drago. I mean they started rooting for Rocky.
If you remember, I knew that was coming. They were
cheering for Rocky. But you're right, when you don't have
a team in the race, you're allowed to change your mind.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
I do find the intriguing story right now. The opposite
of Dan Bayer. Dan Byer puts more emphasis on the
team that breaks up the history, that breaks the streak,
that ruins the three pet I look back at what
Jordan did and what Tom Brady couldn't do in the NFL,

(28:20):
and I'm like, damn, if Mahomes does that, he's in
a whole different category by himself.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Mike in Ohio, your thoughts, what's out, buddy?

Speaker 7 (28:30):
Okay, I'm just talking about the fix and all that
stuff being rigged. I think back, well, the NFL guys
always die in paralyzed, you got. I just think we
wouldn't know that if it was fixed out lead down.
Look at the money if a former players agreed.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
I mean, when people say the fix is in I'm
always like, do they think fix?

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Do they think fixing?

Speaker 6 (28:57):
Well?

Speaker 5 (28:57):
Wrestlers had CTE too though, and still do. Rich likes fixings,
but he doesn't like the fix.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
I love like Kenny Powers and Stevie the fix is
not in, but the fix a So my point is,
do we really think that there's someone making a call
or telling the refs like, oh yeah, throw a flag
on this play? That seems preposterous. And I think you're
an ass clown if you think so. If you think

(29:25):
that you're watching none of you know, Eagles commanders and
someone's like, we need to throw a flag on it,
like get out.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
I don't believe in a fix either, Rich, But when
there's millions and millions and millions and billions and billions
and billions of dollars to be made and having the
Chiefs in the Super Bowl beneficial to your brand, how
many Swifties are tuning in? I mean it's not impossible.
I'm definitely not that guy that believes it. But if

(29:54):
you were to tell me, look, there's millions of more
to be made having the Swifties and that fan base
in it, again, there's something to be said about it.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Like I'm not going to close my ears off to
the possibility.

Speaker 6 (30:05):
If players can flop, especially in like a game like
soccer NBA. Let's be honest, why can't refs over penalize?

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah, I mean there's a possibility.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
It's human fact. I get it. It can go either way,
all right, but hold on, let's let's unravel this anymore.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
You can play it up there. You could call a
holding or pass interference on most plays. It's a matter
of are you gonna let them play or is any
little jersey tug a p I in your mind? So
my question to you then jersey tug? You say, huh,
the jersey tug? Is that what you're doing when you're
back there? That was one of my moves in the
late nineties. Don't get caught. Wow, when you're talking about

(30:45):
these referees, When you talk me these revs, I really
want to know. Do you think they're calling the game
because someone told them.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Like, you know, hey, Frank, you're the the line judge
this week, right, we need the chiefs?

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Like do you like what if people think do they
think that's what's happening.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
I don't know how that works, but I would imagine, yeah,
that the refs are tipped off by higher ups in
the NFL too to make the calls. That's in the
best interest of the Chiefs, if that I mean, if
that's what you believe. But here's such an easy it's
such an easy scape so up until te Angel Hernandez.
But Angel Hands is a terrible refereen exactly umpire, that's

(31:25):
what I'm saying. But he was an umpire. You question
everything he does, this terrible example. Okay, I don't know
what you're even saying that for. Because Angel Hernandez it's
proven that his his calls are bet.

Speaker 6 (31:38):
Why isn't anyone proving this is in the NFL are bet?

Speaker 1 (31:43):
People don't want to believe it, and that's the truth.
They don't want to believe it.

Speaker 5 (31:45):
Okay, can want to believe real quick when the refs
decide to arbitrarily just give the Chiefs a score because
the other team they've had enough to hear with him,
do you guys.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
That was the thing that made me go hm hmm.
That was weird. Sam oh.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
They were like they're basically like out of penn the
yards because they were down like the one inch line
and they're like.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
You keep this card.

Speaker 5 (32:04):
That was what that was the first game, right, that
was So it's no, I'm just saying like that as
like Spot was saying, like they can over penalize. But
it's just funny that in that game against the Eagles
and the Commanders, they had no other options but to
warn them and say we will award a score to
the Eagles. Sorry to get you guys off turck.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Right.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
No, I heard like the refs were like reprimanding me
or something, But can I tell you that.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
I mean, on Mondays, we do things that made you go.
So save that thought and we're going to get to
all your feedback. But let's go to Dan Bay for
an update. D me, what's going on other than Super
Bowl fifty nine?

Speaker 4 (32:36):
I know, I know Cavino did the jersey tug back
in the day. Any any truth to the jersey swap?
Is there anything happening? Oh yeah, oh no, no talk
about that not going not going down those roads.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
No, not at ALLLL, no one.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
Else at twenty seven home run, so there was no
one to swap jerseys with.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah, and Rich, where's an extras medium? So I wasn't.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
Talking jerseys and I wasn't talking clothing. I thought you
were you know what I'm talking I'm talking about Jerry Jones,
who is Brian Schottenneimer as the Cowboys head coach today it.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Might be couched as a less than glamorous higher. What
I would say to you is I got here taking shots.
Good things have happened. Let me tell you something. There's
some stuff to be had over there where not many
people go there is. Don't think for one minute I
won't take a shot.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
Cowboy fans are also taking shots after today for a
different reason.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Just kidding.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
Raiders introduced Pete Carroll as their head coach along with
new GM John Spytech. Aaron Glenn introduced as the Jets
head coach and was asked about Aaron Rodgers future in
New York.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Here's what I do know. Aaron Rodgers will be talked about.
It will be talked about.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
We've already texted that communication with Aaron Rodgers, and as
we continue to.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Look at the roster, we'll make decisions accordingly.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
Liam Cohen introduced today as the Jaguars new head coach.
Todd Monkin gets an extension as the Ravens offensive cord
Nator Steelers on our art running the Second believes that
the team will sign either Russell Wilson or Justin Fields
this offseason, but that they wouldn't bring back both quarterbacks
next year. In the NBA, the Heat are suspending Jimmy
Butler indefinitely after he was told he would not be
in the starting lineup, so he left shoot around. Two

(34:15):
time defending slam Dune Contest champion Mac McClung will go
for a three peat. He'll compete in the contest next month.
That I'll start weekend in San Francisco. Guys, back to you.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Thanks Dan bier Hey more.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
That Jerry Jones SoundBite was the honest thing I heard
all day.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
That was so weird. Man, I do I take shots?
And a man rooting and tooting and shots And.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
How about Brian Schottenheimer sitting next to him, and he's like,
I know this is not a glamorous higher Like thanks coach,
thanks owner boss.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Brian Schtenheimer immediately took out his phone. He's like, what
do I look, Patty. He's looking at his selfie. Clamorous.
Nothing glamorous about Brian Schottenheimer. So listen your thoughts. When
people say the NFL is rigged, we got to get
to that. Plus the lamest thing I'm.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Seeing people post on social media about football. I got
to call out, like every bozo that's doing this, I'll
explain what it is next. More Cavino Rich right here
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Speaker 3 (36:16):
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Speaker 2 (36:17):
Welcome back to the CNR Show Show Gram Program. And
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Speaker 1 (36:37):
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Speaker 2 (36:41):
So again, We're Cavino and Rich live from the tire
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Speaker 1 (36:56):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
We were talking about rooting interest, because yeah, we understand like,
oh Chiefs Eagles, whoop it a new We get it,
but it's three p it's history, and it's revenge with
Saquon a whole new team. It's a comeback story for
the Eagles, so there are reasons to care. We'll take
your phone calls. But Rich, we've been holding it off.

(37:19):
I think we get into it.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Are you ready. Yeah, little things that made you go hmmm, oh,
things that make you go, things that make your goal,
you know, I was. Samuel pointed it out that that
end goal play on like the one foot line for
the Eagles. Yeah, when Washington, you know, tried to read

(37:41):
the snap count multiple times in a row. We you know,
everyone was in the same book, right and on the
same page. As far as like, I didn't know the
ref could award a touchdown if you wanted to. Dude,
that was I don't I don't know. That was really odd.
I'll turn this bus around. That's what it was like,
because to me, like, all right, the advantage of listen,

(38:01):
the major disadvantages. You're the defense and the other team
is inches away from scoring. Your only hope is to
jump the count. And guess really was.

Speaker 5 (38:11):
That one guy though? It was like the voovoo guy
Vuzela dude Elder.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah, but if you're jumping to try to read the
snap count, that's your only real hope of beating the
pushed the toush push on the one foot line.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
But I don't know how that's illegal. In any way,
Like I almost felt like, keep doing it until you guess?

Speaker 5 (38:30):
Yeah, and he did. I loved what your guys is homing.
Kevin Burkhardt said, this is the longest second down in
NFL history.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
That's funny. I mean there's a part of me that's like,
what do you what did you want him to do?
Just give in? Like to me, the only way to
possibly stop it was to guess, and eventually the refs
would have I would have loved to see that. How
did that go in Vegas? Who gets credit for that touchdown?
Is there a prop bet? Like I want a sign
touchdown plus a million? Like Rich?

Speaker 5 (38:57):
The problem though, is that the refs used penalty yards
to punish a team, and when you run out of
them like they did, you're at like the you know,
the half half a yard line. They have no other
chance at that point if the other team won't stop
doing the the you know the the push. Yeah, well
trying to counter the push Dan.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
But it did make me say hmm, and it made
me feel like they can't do that? Is that even?

Speaker 2 (39:18):
It's like when I got a ticket, Rich, remember for
being arrogant? The officer gave me a ticket for I'm like,
you can't give me a ticket.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
You could do that. I don't know, have you mecha?

Speaker 4 (39:27):
There are penalties that could be handed out, like in
the regular field of play, if you are trying to
waste time on the clock, where if you can continue
to can continue to make the same penalty, they can
charge you fifteen yards for sportsmanlike conduct.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
And end it.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
But to then to Sam's point, like fifteen yards from
six inches, like you know, half the distance of that, Like,
what's the point?

Speaker 1 (39:48):
I got it something. Eventually they go up there and
they like they yeah, the nose of the ball acrosses
the goal line, and okay, this is a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
So this is where we open it up to the
Fox Sports Radio Nation. Things that made you go It
could be anything from the weekend, but I mean, we
had two.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Great games and lots of takeaways.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
So any observations you made hit us up now eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
I think we're at Covino and Rich.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
One of the biggest head scratchers for Rich is how
anybody could say it's a fix.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
We already established that, Like do you really believe that?
I'll give you another thing that made me go HM
was Washington. It was really a fun ride for Jaden Daniels.
Their fan base should be super pumped about the future.
But you see it a lot in the NCAA tournament
where like a Cinderella team goes on a run and
then once they get to the Final four or Elite eight,

(40:36):
reality hits and it's like they're out class Then they're outclassed,
and like, by doing that, while you enjoyed their fun,
they took away the better matchup. And I think by
Washington upsetting Detroit, we were sort of robbed of Eagles Detroit,
no question.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
I don't think there's any question. I mean, they're in
great position moving forward. They'll make some defensive adjustments, but
we were robbed of a better matchup this question.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
I think that made us go and I think the
Josh Allen that wasn't a first down, huh. I think
that's what everyone's gonna be talking to.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
You know what I thought, man going for those two
point conversions, suck the steam out.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
I thought Josh.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Allen's body language was a little off when you compared
it to what was going on on the other side.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Well, you know what, the rest of your observations we'll
get to those next A Monday, Cavino, Rich Shredd here,
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