April 14, 2025 • 41 mins
Colin Cowherd reacts to Rory McIlroy finally winning that elusive green jacket and completing the career grand slam, thoughts on the Warriors loss to the Clippers, Nico Iamaleava & Tennessee splitting ways, his top QB prospects in the NFL Draft, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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a Monday back from VAK, ready to roll live in
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however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part
of your Dave Jordan Schultz film in for Jmack this week.
Great to have you a lot of NFL stuff. Drafts
a couple of weeks away. I often tell my kids,
and I've said this before, Now they don't listen to me.
They used to kind of that the most important quality
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anybody can have in life is resilience, even for the
greatest of all time, Michael Jordan. You saw the odyssey
and the struggles of Michael Jordan. Can't get to the Celtics,
can't get to the Pistons. Rory McElroy, a golf prodigy,
finally wins Augusta in his seventeenth trip.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Seventeenth trip.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Resiliency is the key to success in life, because it's
really hard, or everybody would be successful. And Rory McElroy
has two great qualities that make him so magnetic on television,
which is how most of us watched. Number One, he
is a wizard. He can make shots nobody else can.
It's a combination of Tiger Woods, Phil Mickelson, Jack Nicholas.
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He is a wizard bending a ball around trees and
laughing after hero shots can often look routine. And the
second quality he has he can buckle under pressure, hit
a wedge into a creek from one hundred and twenty
five yards away. As I watched yesterday, this was not
Rory against Justin Rose. It was not Rory against Bryson De'shambeau.
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It was Rory McElroy against Rory McElroy. And that has
been the story of his career and why the crowd
was chanting in Augusta for Rory, not Justin Rose. What
player do you get hold a hole? Since twenty fourteen,
if he won this tournament, remarkably, it would be his
first major. And again, this is a kid that like
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Tiger Woods, who was on the Mike Douglas Show when
he was three or four. Rory was on Ireland TV
hitting a golf ball into his mom's washer when he
was eight and nine years old. He's there, Tiger. He
is a prodigy. But Tiger was so great. He was
often robotic, never losing a lead on Sunday, in total command,
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in total control. And yet with Rory he shares so
many of those traits, long off the tee, bending balls
around trees. But there are times when he played conservative yesterday,
not when he was in trouble. Oh he was great then,
but when he was conservative, he got into trouble. We
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remember to the collapse at the US Open a year ago,
which makes him more fascinating, more vulnerable. He's not reckless,
he's not babbling demons. You just aren't quite sure what
you get. Putt to putt, wedge to wedge and off
the green despite all his talent. But when the green
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was in sight and I thought it was so really,
this was so much. This was a perfect way for
him to win Augusta. This was a perfect way. Four
double bogies, most ever for a champion. That web shot
into the creek of course Rory McElroy would have to
go to a playoff hole. It symbolized yesterday and Saturday.
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At the very best of his game, he pulls away
and then yet blows a four shot lead early yesterday.
He starts a little shaky, then he's strong, back to shaky,
then he then he's great and in the end the
winning putt was an emotional waterfall, proving once again, even
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for the all time greats, it is about absolutely resilience overcoming.
It was not Rory against Augusta. It was not Rory
against Bryson or Justin Rose. It was Rory against Rory,
and the prodigy delivered and gets the jacket. Now Augusta
is the first major and this could be the Rory year,
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or maybe it won't be, and that would be fitting too.
For the record, the British Open is in Northern Ireland,
one hour from where he grew up. Here's Rory on
Rory and Bryson on Rory.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
After this is my seventheenth time here and I started
to wonder if it would ever be my time, And
I think, you know, the last ten years, coming here
with the burden the Grand Slam on my shoulders and
trying to achieve that. There was a lot of pens
up of motion that just came out on that eighteenth green.
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But you know, I said, you know, a moment like
that mix all the years and all the all the
close calls worth it.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I wanted to cry for him. I mean, as a professional,
you just noted in the middle of the green and
I can't believe he went for it or it must
have just flirted it. But I've hit bat shots in
my career too, so it happens. And when you're trying
to win a major championship, especially out here Sunday Augusta,
the Masters, you have to you have to just do
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it and get the job done and do it right.
There were times where it looked like he had full
control and times I was like, well, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (05:42):
And that is what makes Rory McElroy as fascinating as
anybody in golf. I've always said this about Michael Jordan.
Michael Jordan was the best looking. He'd be easy not
to like. He was the coolest, the style, the earring,
the smile, handsome, great, be easy not to like. But
you watched him struggle, so you were invested in the
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journey with Michael. He wasn't the chosen one at sixteen,
he was cut by his high school coach. Lebron's less
likable Jordan's incredibly likable Tiger at times was robotic, great early,
dominating for a decade and chasing somebody like Lebron that
we loved Jack Nicholas. But Rory is different. There's a
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little MJ there. We have watched the struggle. I'm hoping
Augusta is the first of many, but that ten year
gap so symbolizes what makes him so incredibly embraceable. Way
to go, Rory. All right, so yesterday NBA plans are
going to be interesting. East is set, Calves, Celtics are great.
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West is all logjammed. So yesterday the Warriors need to
win biggest game of the year. They don't, and now
they're forced tomorrow to play a playing game.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
So listen.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I think Jim Butler's a playmaker. He's tough, he gets
to the free throw line. He's good for Steph Curry.
But the honeymoon is over. He made more free throws
in Golden Satan Field goals since he's arrived. Okay, so
let's be realistic about it. Pat Riley does not move
off many players. Pat Riley's as good a personal guy
as the league has had in my life outside of
maybe Red Arbach, and they moved off him, and he's
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got a shorter contract that it's not as punitive, not
as prohibitive as he wanted in Miami. But the reality is,
despite the fact that Jimmy Butler's made him relevant and
he's good for Steph, they've got a bigger problem once again.
A young warrior, Jonathan Kaminga did not play coaches decision,
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James Wiseman, Jordan Poole, Jonathan Kaminga, an immature D'Angelo Russell.
Young guys, squarely guys or immature guys don't fit here.
If Kaminga gave you a twenty one a night and
could play at the same time as Steph Draymond Butler,
he'd be on the floor. But it tells you what
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Kerr thinks of Kaminga and what he thought of Wiseman
and Jordan Poole and D'Angelo Russell was in and out
of town quickly. If you look at the history of
the dynasty, it's very much like the Patriots, Brady and
staph One overwhelming transcendent superstar to superstar who mostly plays
very very well with older players, Andrew Bogan, Andre Iguodala,
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Kevin Durant.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
You can bring the old guys in here and it works.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Now. Jimmy Butler is an additive, there's no question. But
because cominga doesn't work when Draymond, Steph and Butler are
all on the floor, the question is what do we
get from Jimmy Butler. He's shooting about twenty eight percent
from three point territory and it looks like and the
kaminga thing. We were all kind of waiting off the
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injury to see how it would work, and Steve Kerr
made a decision yesterday, I'm not even gonna play him.
So it looks like the ceiling is very apparent for
the Warriors. Yes, Jimmy Butler absolutely saved the regular season.
He's relevant, a playmaker, gets to the free throw line, tough,
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and help Steph. Those are all boxes that are checked
for Jimmy Butler. But again, in this dynasty, like Brady
just did not work with young receivers.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Bring in Randy Moss its magic.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Bringing a Don Branch again, it works, but you draft
the kid in the first round, Nikhil Harry, Chad Jackson.
It doesn't work by Brady wants to win now. He's
not gonna be your babysitter. He's not gonna teach you
how to run routes. And with the Warriors offense, young
guys can struggle to find their footing and it looks
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like Kaminga will not be part of the future, although
it seems like the only way they could win a
series a seven gamer against the Houston against the Lakers
would be a okay, see Houston if Kaminga played, but
yesterday not playing him, coach's decision tells you, now it's
not gonna work. Butler, Steven Draymond pods They're gonna have
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a ceiling. Here was Jimmy on the playing game.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
We got a lot of really good basketball players. Run
this open room key and what we're trying to do.
I like the confidence that he has in myself. I
also have the same amount of confidence. So I know
that I and we have a job to do, and
I know they were capable of doing it. So playing
here we come.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Well.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Playing game is tomorrow against the Wizards again the Western Conference,
Oklahoma City pulled away Houston's a little bit ahead of
the group, but then it's Lakers. For the next four
or five teams were all very close playing game. I'll
take the Warriors over Memphis. I just don't trust the
Grizzlies in big spots. But quite a day yesterday watching golf,
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I was thinking about this. There's been a handful of
moments in my life i've overwhelmingly and this is why
I supported the live tour.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I watched for golfers.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I don't watch for courses, but there is something magical
about a US Open at Pebble Beach. There is something
magical about Augusta and the undulating course and the challenges,
and we got all of it yesterday. I was talking
to Ryan on the staff this morning. I watched every
stroke like most of you did yesterday. I cannot remember
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being on pins and needles for four hours. And that
was Rory right like when he pulled away early, there
was no tension, no tension, and then he quickly lost
that lead. Of course he did, because that's what makes
him such a wildly entertaining spectacle.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Paul, what's so cool about Rory?
Speaker 6 (11:45):
You mentioned the resilience. How about what he said to
his daughter in front of everyone else. I know we'll
probably get to it in more detail later, but never
give up on your dreams.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Now.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
That was him in many ways talking to himself. He
mentioned the decade long odyssey of trying to win another major.
For him to do it, and to complete it in
the manner in which he did, I personally felt guilty
to he choked, it's over when he went to the playoff,
especially Justin Rose having already lost one. I figured, that's it,
this is Justin Rose.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I felt the same way I felt. They go to
the narrowest, the narrowest gree fairway, and I thought, oh boy,
all right. But yet yesterday, if you watched Rory in
Saturday too, in some of those moments when you had
doubt he delivered, it was when he got conservative that
he at times buckled by the way this just came down.
Mike Budenholzer fired Phoenix Sun's head coach. We didn't love
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the fit to start with, so he's on his way out.
There's a total rebuild there, personnel, roster coaching. Phoenix just
fired their head coach. Playoffs begin in earnest yes tomorrow,
Memphis and Golden State.
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Colin forty minutes from now, Rick Buker, Albert Breerfrank Reich
stopping by the new Stanford head coach, former NFL head
coach and quarterback. So we had our first holdout in
college football and nobody's really happy about it. So Tennessee,
as a young quarterback, Nico Iamaliava is his name, Tall
moves well, was the number two quarterback in the country
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to Arch Manning coming out mobile, big arm, very very inconsistent,
needs a lot of refinement. But the bottom line is
he wanted to raise and he was making two point
five million, and he goes, I'm on four million, and
it was inevitable. There's no guardrails, or not enough of
them on the transfer portal nor the NIL. We just
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saw these basketball coaches like Tom Izzo and Rick Patino,
they were in the tournament and the transfer portal was starting.
John Calipari just laughed at it. There's not enough guardrails.
So this is why the NFL has a collectively collective
negotia ciating agreement rules guidelines. Folks, I don't blame the kid.
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I blame the NCAA. They knew ten years ago guys
were going to get paid. Then California legislators made it happen,
and they've been playing catch up for a decade. The
governing body is it blame here? It's like players would
do this in the NFL if you didn't have a CBA,
if you didn't have a players union, you didn't have
a commissioner. This is what would happen in all sports.
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So what's happening in college sports? Specifically? A football player
at a key position at Tennessee. Now Tennessee last year,
just last year alone, made one hundred and forty nine
million dollars in revenue. These SEC schools are our banks.
Coaches Now, Kirby Smart makes twelve thirteen million. Tennessee's coach
probably makes somewhere between eight and twelve. And I just
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saw a duke quarterback a basketball school that transferred from Tulane.
He's making four million. So Niko's like time out. My
coach is making this average players making a million. We're
paying high school players. I'm making two point five. I
let us do a playoff. We may have been smoked
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by Ohio State, but I let us do a playoff
in the SEC with Texas, Oklahoma, LSU, Bama, Georgia. I
got us into a playoff. Now I don't think he's ready.
You know, he's got leverage. Some I don't like that
he's getting probably really bad advice from dad on this.
I tend to be a believer. You sign a contract,
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you live up to it. If he has a great year,
he would be a first round pick because of his
athletic ability, his size. He's got a whip for an arm. Though,
when I watched him in the four or five big games,
he was really really inconsistent. But this was going to happen.
So it's up to the governing body to get it right.
Why has the UFC succeeded that boxing has died? Why
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Dana White a governing body, a leader, and this is
college football's issues. Of course, kids with leverage are going
to do this. Coaches with leverage have moved. I don't
have to love it. I don't have to love the
dad's advice. But you can keep blaming the kids on
this stuff. But what it really shows you is that
change was needed. The kids need to be paid, and
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change is hard and it's fraught with chaos and turbulence.
I mean, this is why the PGA players, many of
them went to live that didn't like the leadership.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
What is the PGA. It's a charity.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
It doesn't run the Masters, it doesn't run the British
Open Strength in leadership and governing bodies is why the
UFC is flourishing and boxing feels like it's not. It's
why the NFL is flourishing, and college football right now
is wobbling. Don't blame the kids. Don't even blame the coaches.
Don't blame the administrators. Blame the governing body. The NCAA
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has been playing catch up on this stuff for years now.
I do actually like but Josh Haipe, who's a good
coach at Tennessee. I like his decision, which is, hey, listen,
we're not fond of this. The kid has a right
to do it, but we're gonna move on.
Speaker 10 (18:09):
I want to thank him for everything that he's done
since he's gotten here. You know, that's as a recruit,
to who he was as a player and how he
competed inside of the building, and so a great appreciation
for that side of it. Obviously we're moving forward as
a program without him. You know, I said it to
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the guys today, there's no one that's that's bigger than
the power team, and that includes me.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah again, I think I would have done the same
thing as a coach. I would have said, listen, you
didn't show up for practice. It's bad messaging. I don't
think that's good as the leadership position on a football team.
As coaching quarterback, I don't. That's like a coach not
showing up for a spring practice or a spring game. Hey,
I want to raise you got to show up for
the team. Quarterback is different. Football is different.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
So I didn't like that.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I agree with Josh Eipel's move, but we can all
point fingers and I read yesterday why the kid's not
that good? He's overrated Right now, he is a tad overrated.
But in the SEC where programs are making one hundred
and thirty five to one hundred and sixty million dollars,
coach is making twelve. He's like Duke's quarterback's making four.
I can't It comes down to management. If you look
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at if you horse racing, what's happening to it? What's
the leadership boxing, where's it going? Leadership college football? That's
our issue, not the kid. Here's Jordan with the news.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
No, no, no, turn on the news.
Speaker 9 (19:40):
This is the herd Line news.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
All right.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Colin Cleveland signed quarterback Joe Flacco and have been rumored
to take a quarterback in the upcoming draft, but Kenny
Pickett is still confident. He said he wanted to start
after the Browns traded for him, and then doubled down
again this weekend, saying, quote.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I'm not here to hay out. I want to play now.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Colin. The Browns would love for Kenny Pickett to.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Win this shot.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
They would, but they also have a tremendous amount of
comfort and Joe Flacco, you go back to two years ago,
leads them to the playoffs. I know he's older, but
a couple of scouts told me this, and I'm not
a quarterback guru, but they said, even though he doesn't
maybe have the same pop, the same juice, he still
has one of the premier deep balls. You can still
win with him. They are going to take a quarterback,
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I'm pretty sure in the draft. I don't know if
it's going to be at two, but I wonder for you,
if you're the head coach, if you're Kevin Stefanski, are
you rolling with Joe Flacco at forty plus?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
You know, I think he's a bridge obviously. I don't
think Kenny Pickett's the answer. I think he's an NFL backup.
I thought he deserved to get drafted somewhere first three rounds,
but I didn't think he was a franchise build around guy.
I'd be okay with Flacco. Flaco's a nice guy. People
like him. He's good in the room, great deep ball.
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You know, he's a pocket guy at this point, which
there's only a few left Jared Goff, Matt Stafford, Kirk Cousins.
There's not a lot of pocket guys left. But again,
I think it's a bridge year. I think the Deshaun
Watson debacle. If you can just maintain your GM and
your coach, don't fire anybody own it as an owner,
that was your big swing. Jimmy Haslam came out and
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acknowledged we made a big mistake we being him. I
think you have to just understand this year you're not
going to be a viable franchise. Flack O can win
your games. You got Miles Garrett paid, so I think
you just look at it as a bridge year. You're
not going to be Baltimore, and I don't think you'll
be Cincinnata.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Maybe the bigger picture than is what should they do
with two? Because to me, it's Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter
at two and then just move forward. He's the best
player arguably in the dress.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I believe to soften the landing on Deshaun Watson's contract,
what I would do is trade down and try to
get more picks, twelve picks, because Sean Payton proved this.
When you have, when you inherit a really bad contract,
only a couple of ways out of it when you
have all that dead cap money. One of them is
to find a quarterback like a bow Nix, we don't
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have to pay for four years. That softens the blow.
The other thing is hit on a bunch of draft picks.
So you have second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth round guys.
You're not playing for four years. So Cleveland really needs
a great draft. And if I was the Browns, if
I ran the franchise, I would trade down. I would
try to get total of eleven or twelve picks hit
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on eight of them, and again then all of a sudden,
you got eight guys on the team. You don't have
to pay for four or five years. That's the way
to do it.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
The Saints, speaking of teams looking for quarterback, they start
off season work today, but are doing so without Derek Carr. Now,
Carr is dealing with a shoulder injury, which could threaten
his availability for this season. Car is considering surgery, and
that has draft analysts thinking the Saints Colin could potentially
take Shadoris Sanders ninth.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Overall.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, I think shador and I'll talk about this before
the end of the hour, should do or will be
as good as the place he lands. I don't think
he's transformative. I think that Derek Carr thing didn't work.
We always had our questions, was it Derek Carr the
Raiders who were to blame? And now if we watch
Derek Carr New Orleans, the answer is probably a little
of both, is that it was some of the Raiders
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and it was some of Derek Carr. I don't think
New Orleans has ever been quite what we thought it was.
And I don't think I just I think it didn't
turn out the way Derek thought. I thought it would
I thought it would be more promising, but it's just
never felt right.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
The fits never felt right.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
He was never a.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Viable solution, at least not without the coach. Now Sean
Payton goes to.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Denver, that's different ballgames, that's a different ballgame.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
You mentioned Bo Nicks, but he got a defensive coach
who was over his head and for the second time,
and he's not the kind of player. We see this
with kids coming out of college. There are very few
guys that can overcome an insufficient coaching staff, let.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
Alone a bad roster. Ye see, And that's my point,
that roster is not a quarterback the way, even if
you think, unless you think shad Or Sanders is truly transformative,
which you don't, then don't take him at nine. You
need you are not a quarterback away. You need to
get as much it's BPA best player available, and then
maybe you get a quarterback in the second or third round.
Speaker 9 (24:13):
But regardless of it's.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Derek Carr not moving forward for this season. He's not
a viable solution long term. They're going to have to
figure that out without Sean Payne.
Speaker 7 (24:22):
Colin.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
This is really interesting to me. We actually talked about
this in the pre show meeting or just a few
minutes to a should say the Phoenix Suns have fire
a head coach Mike Budenholzer. Per Sham Sharanya of ESPN,
the Suns win from a forty nine win team with
a thirteenth ranked defense. They are in this sixth seed
under Frank Vogel. The year before then, they missed the
play in tournament completely. They finished ten and eighteen after
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the All Star break with the league's third worst defense.
They finished this season calling in eleventh place with a
thirty six to forty six record. We could go a
lot of ways with this. I don't know where they
go now, but obviously Bradley Beal is a big issue.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, and KD and Mike had their issues. D he's
a bucket. Still give you twenty seven a night. But
I never loved the higher I this is the NBA. Listen,
Matt ishb is going to start over. I appreciated the swing.
I said it when he did it, when he got
KD and Bradley Beal, I mean they weren't winning. I mean,
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let's be honest, when Booker was there by himself, they
weren't winning. Then they brought in Chris Paul and he
was the magic elixor to winning. Then Chris Paul leaves
and they're trying to kind of restart it, reboot it,
and figure it out. Boozier's a really good player. I
wouldn't want to give him up. I would move off
KD listen. I always appreciate the effort in the swing,
and the Ishbia family is aggressive.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I appreciate it, but it.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Didn't work, and they don't have a ton of draft picks.
So this is the challenge of an NBA franchise. They
the Bradley Beal thing.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
That's a mess.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
It was just a miss.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
It was a colossal miss because not only has he
not played well, he's borderline unplayable.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
And I watched Phoenix affair amount there are nights where
he's either not playing or he looks completely disinterested. And
for that salary and that what you thought you were
getting caliber a player, it's it's completely untenable.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, Jordan with the news, Well that's the news, and
thanks for stopping by the herd line. I was off
last week and Mike Malone got fired as the Denver
Nuggets coach, and it's it's really interesting situation. So right now,
the best basketball player in the world, and I don't
think it's that close. Nicola Jokic of the Denver Nuggets,
the joker. I don't think it's that close. I was
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looking this morning at his numbers this season. He's just unbelievable.
It's he is the second most talented center outside of
Kareem in my lifetime. That includes I didn't see Wilt
in his prime, but that includes Shack and a Keem
uh and Russell, and I mean, you'd argue Wilt Russell,
but I outside of Kareem, he's the best. He's the
best center I've ever seen. He's like are Vetas Sabonis
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in his prime on jet fuel, Like he does everything well.
And for Malone, he's a really intense guy. So this
was inevitable. He's not a twenty year personality. And what
happened in this story is as old as time is.
The GM wanted the coach to play his draft picks
because a GM's job isn't to win tonight, it's to
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build for the future. And you know, constantly being discussions
with the ownership. Whereas Malone's job. They want to win now,
so that's his old as time where the GM wants
to play young guys. Malone wanted to play Russell Westbrook
and head coaches in all sports they want to win.
That's how they keep their job. General managers want to
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win two but not sacrificing the growth of their young players.
So in all of this turmoil, Yokich remains the world's
best basketball player, having his greatest season in one of
the great seasons in the history of center. And Jokic
is kind of a private personality. So my take is
he likes hiding in Denver. He's got a trophy, he's
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got his money. Denver's not too crowded. It's a rocky
mountain time zone, fairly invisible for a big city market
like a Kansas city, and he's really happy there. He's
not gonna pound his fist on the table and demand
to be traded. He's got his money, his legacy, his ring,
and I think he likes it.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
He's just not the.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Kind of personality to demand a big move, and Denver
sort of trapped because they've never given him an All Star.
Although I would argue Gordon and Porter and Jamal Murray
are very good players. I mean, they were good enough
to win a championship and look like they could be
a dynasty.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
But they're now. They don't have draft capital.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
They're tied to three and four year contracts with good
players that aren't great players like Jamal Murray again, Porter Gordon,
Jamal Murray, good players, but they're expensive. They're tied to contracts.
They don't have draft capital. So I think what Denver
is is what Milwaukee was with Kareem They got one
title and that was that. And what Milwaukee is with
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the honest they got one title and that is that.
And I think Denver is going to fall into that
sort of dirt Novitsky, Dallas Mavericks. They got their ring,
but I just don't see a way out of their
current situation. I just don't nobody to blame. They earned it.
I love watching Jokic. I think he just had the
greatest season arguably any center has ever had statistically.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
But you know, they rolled the dice.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
They locked in good players with big contracts, and I
think they're sort of.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Trapped coming up.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
All right, So you know, the draft is obviously by
next Monday, that's Draft Week, it is not a great draft.
There are a lot of quarterbacks out there, and I
figured this morning I would just line all the quarterbacks up.
I'll tell you what I perceived them. You can, we'll
put it on the archive. This is what I think
these quarterbacks will do going forward in the NFL. There's
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about six guys I think worthy of a conversation, and
we'll talk about that next.
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Speaker 1 (30:14):
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top of Next Hour, Colin Wright Colin wrong on a Monday,
So Draft week is next week. We talked a lot
about Rory McElroy and that led our show today and
probably let every sports show in the country.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Just remarkable.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I was sitting there on Saturday morning, I went out
golfing because whenever golf is one of those sports like
I can watch basketball and not want to go out
and play basketball. I can watch football and not want
to go out and play football. But there is something
about golf is when I'm watching a great tournament, I
want to go to the practice ranger, I want to
go play with buddies. And I went out and played
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and it was just, you know, it's just a topic
of conversation how remarkable Rory is. And I think it
really does matter is that, like you know, Lebron James
will never be as popular as Michael Jordan. And there's
a lot of reasons for that, and that's not necessarily
a shot at him, but he was the chosen one.
And you know, there's so much Lebron. There's very few
secrets with Michael Jordan. He was sort of for the
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most popular sports figure in America. He was kind of
private in his personal life. He didn't have Instagram, it
wasn't TikTok, it wasn't that generation. There was no Google
and YouTube and Michael Jordan. Again, people forget this that
he won as a freshman at North Carolina. He stayed
at Carolina for two years and one year couldn't even
beat in state rival n Z State, right, and then
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we saw the Pistons and the Celtics tackle him. So
you shared in the pain and the journey and Michael
crying when he finally won his title.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
And that's what's great about Rory.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
You know, there's a movie Goodwill Hunting, which almost all
of you have seen, and people come out to Hollywood
and they just forget how hard it is. It could
be David Letterman's story, it could be Michael Keaton's story.
It's Affleck and Damon. It took him over a decade
to sell that script and get that movie made. And
just watching at Augusta, the seventeenth trip for Europe's Tiger,
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Europe's golf Prodigy took seventeen trips and it's just once again,
it sort of is a reminder that success is really hard,
even for the gifted. When you watch that ten part
Michael Jordan documentary, remember watching that during COVID. Thank god
for that or I don't know how we would have
filled three hours. But I remember telling my kids he
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was the best looking player, he was the best player.
He was in Chicago, a big city. The commissioner loved him.
Nike loved him. Everything was there for Michael, but he
was battling with the GM. The ownership was cheap. Rodman's
going to Vegas for weekends and disappearing. He couldn't win
with stan Albrook or enough with Doug Collins. Then it's
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Phil Jackson who asked him to be more of a
leader and trust teammates. So he didn't he finally, but
we all shared in Michael's journey. He wasn't the chosen one.
He wasn't a prodigy. He was cut from high school
basketball team. He was the number three pick. And so
it just makes Michael more likable is that you saw
him get tackled by the Pistons for years and he
couldn't beat those great Celtic teams. That's Rory. This kid
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has been like he has been. I mean, it's so funny.
There's been so many because Tiger was so great that
you know, we were all waiting for the next Tiger,
and it's like, guys, there's not going to be a
next Tiger. We were kind of lucky in basketball, where
Kobe had a lot of the elements and components of
Michael cool, good looking, stylish, but with with Rory McElroy.
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I think we've found about as close to Tiger as
you're gonna get, which is an athlete tough. But the
difference is Michael was almost robotic. He would never lose
a lead. And that's why a lot of people preferred
Michelson and his story, because Michelson could be reckless and
play himself out of a major. I never feel with
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Rory it's reckless. He's just got the kind of personality
and it's strange, but sometimes it feels like he loses confidence.
And so it was so fitting that he had to
go to a playoff hole and I didn't think he
was gonna win. I thought, no, it's Justin Rose. You
can tell it about when Justin was on the thirteenth
or fourteenth, all you're like, and I know you're all
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sitting there thinking, is Justin Rose? What a buzzkill? He's
gonna win this thing. It's not gonna be de Shamba,
It's not gonna be a row. I'm not I have
to sit here for four hours and Justin Rose is
gonna win it. And that's nothing against Justin Rose, but
I was like, give me a break, what a buzzkill?
And so it was only fitting, and so maybe just
my pessimism, I thought, oh this, well, this is heartbreaking.
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This is just heartbreaking. And then you know he hits
that drive, then approach shot, nails the putt. Just a
remarkable four hours of golf. I'm interested to see the
TV ratings today. Nobody cares, but I would guess by
the way the Master's a is fantastic, I would guess
the ratings are through the roof. It was just just
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I couldn't take my eyes. You don't even have to
be a golf fan. You don't have to be a
golf fan. That was just my shoulders. I need a massage.
My shoulders are tight. And it was so absolutely appropriate
that it went to a playoff hole the quiet guy
Justin Rose, and then here's Rory. Had it lost it,
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had it tied it, playoff, won it and you just
see that waterfall of emotion come out.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
And I'll tell you just so emotional washing that.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
The Augusta patrons, they they won't let you call it
a gallery if you're a broadcaster. And Jim Nansen, the
CBS crew tip of the cap, I thought you did
a remarkable job. Such great storyteller from your crew, you
know fifty years ago, Jack Nicholas a great way to
romanticize it. Look at the tradition, but stay current. But
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the Gallery always has a favorite, and it was very
easy early remember when it started out, and d Chambeau
was given high five to the Gallery. And he's more
of a he's a slower player and Rory likes. They're
both power players. For Rory likes to get up and
go and move and move, and d Chambeau has more pace,
but they're both big, powerful guys. So there was a
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feeling like d Chambeau was going to like irritate uh
Rory and take his time and go back and look
at things and slow the pace. But d Chambeau, who
by the way, was great until yesterday on the greens,
but his game's a bit of a mess. It unraveled
multiple times. He had distance issues the whole weekend, but
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he was so great on the greens until yesterday. He
stayed around. Rory's game was much much better. He just
had weird holes and weird shots. But early I thought
the crowd was into d Chambeau, but about the third
or fourth or fifth hole they really pivoted to backing
Rory and I thought it was just great.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Great.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Always trust the Augusta crowd. They're giving you the vibe.
They're they're telling you what the energy is.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
They did this.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Remember when Tiger won his last Masters or with Mickelson.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I always trust the patrons. They're telling you.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Just if you watch Augusta, they'll tell you the vibe
of the tournament by who they're pulling for. It was
Deshambo as he came out. He's like a pro wrestler.
He's high five and he's leaning into it. About the
third or fourth hole, everybody moved over to Rory.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
And it was great. Okay, So I promised I was
going to do this.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
So it is not a great quarterback draft, but there's
about five or six guys that I think are worth
just addressing, and I'm just going to tell you. I'm
lay it out here, Ryan says. He assures me we're
taping this, it will be it's an archive. But I'm
going to give you my feeling on six quarterbacks that
everybody's talking about in this drift. So the first guy's
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cam Ward, who I do think offensive coach, good old line,
weak division. He's a playmaker, a super fluid athlete, he
was a no star recruit. By the way, he went
to a place called incarnate word, which sounds like a
term of philosophy professor uses and you never know what
it means. But it's a college no star recruit. I
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think in that division, with that staff and that offensive line,
he's a playmaker.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
He'll win games. Is he transformational? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Plays a lot of hero ball, but there's something there
and he should be your number one quarterback prospect. Shador Sanders.
I like him more than NFL general managers. He's a
very smart decision maker and super composed and accurate. But
he's not He doesn't have a huge arm, he doesn't
have a lot of physical traits that are impressive, and
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he gets sacked a lot in college. Some of that's
old line, some of it he holds it too long.
My take is he will be his good as the
coaching staff and his protection. So if he gets the staff,
the offensive coach, it'll be fine. If not, it won't
be much to write home about. Number three is Jackson
dart Folks. I see Zach Wilson with the Jets. His
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best games were against Duke Georgia Southern and Furman at
Zack Wilson. He's impressive, good looking kid, confident under Lane
Kiffin's system, but in big games, wasn't consistently accurate, wasn't
great with pressure. Also, Ole Miss has big time talent,
So this fields like Zach Wilson, where he's gonna blow
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you away with his confidence. He's got a little bit
of an arm, but he was inaccurate in big games.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I don't think he sees the field particularly well.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
I don't think he's an anticipation thrower where I think
Shador Sanders is. So I don't see it, but he'll
get drafted in the first round. Enough gms like him.
Jalen Milroll Alabama, great kid, physical specimen. He is too
mechanical to ever be a great professional quarterback. But I
do think he's a much better version of Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Again, he's inconsistent.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
You know you're getting in the fifty percent completion percentage
on third and fourth down in the NFL. If you're
not good in the two minute drill or on third
down when everybody knows you're throwing, you're not a franchise
quarterback for very long. But I do think because he's
such a good kid. He's such a hard worker and
he throw. He's got some unbelievable traits. Somebody's gonna give
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him a chance to start in this league. But again,
he's really mechanical. He's not terribly fluid, and I think
there's limitation Tyler Shuck out of Louisville. Don't get it.
Too many injuries in college. Big kid who can throw it,
looks the part. But remember he's older than Trevor Lawrence
right now. So the college kids that stay in college forever.
Speaker 10 (40:56):
You know.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Again, he's gonna be twenty seven here pretty quickly, or
playing against twenty years and twenty one year olds. So
a little overvalued to me. And then Kyle McCord at Syracuse,
who I've been saying now for three months. I think
he's the sleeper. Good in big games, anticipation, thrower, moves
well enough, accurate, highly productive at Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Had that win against Notre Dame. I like him.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
I think there's an argument he's the second best quarterback
in this class. Kyle McCord at Syracuse, formerly of Ohio State.
He's my sleeper. Cam's the best, and Shadur will be
as good as where he lands, all right, Colin Wright,
Colin wrong on a Monday.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
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Great to have you a lot of NFL stuff. Drafts
a couple of weeks away. I often tell my kids,
and I've said this before, Now they don't listen to me.
They used to kind of that the most important quality
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anybody can have in life is resilience, even for the
greatest of all time, Michael Jordan. You saw the odyssey
and the struggles of Michael Jordan. Can't get to the Celtics,
can't get to the Pistons. Rory McElroy, a golf prodigy,
finally wins Augusta in his seventeenth trip.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Seventeenth trip.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Resiliency is the key to success in life, because it's
really hard, or everybody would be successful. And Rory McElroy
has two great qualities that make him so magnetic on television,
which is how most of us watched. Number One, he
is a wizard. He can make shots nobody else can.
It's a combination of Tiger Woods, Phil Mickelson, Jack Nicholas.
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He is a wizard bending a ball around trees and
laughing after hero shots can often look routine. And the
second quality he has he can buckle under pressure, hit
a wedge into a creek from one hundred and twenty
five yards away. As I watched yesterday, this was not
Rory against Justin Rose. It was not Rory against Bryson De'shambeau.
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It was Rory McElroy against Rory McElroy. And that has
been the story of his career and why the crowd
was chanting in Augusta for Rory, not Justin Rose. What
player do you get hold a hole? Since twenty fourteen,
if he won this tournament, remarkably, it would be his
first major. And again, this is a kid that like
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Tiger Woods, who was on the Mike Douglas Show when
he was three or four. Rory was on Ireland TV
hitting a golf ball into his mom's washer when he
was eight and nine years old. He's there, Tiger. He
is a prodigy. But Tiger was so great. He was
often robotic, never losing a lead on Sunday, in total command,
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in total control. And yet with Rory he shares so
many of those traits, long off the tee, bending balls
around trees. But there are times when he played conservative yesterday,
not when he was in trouble. Oh he was great then,
but when he was conservative, he got into trouble. We
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remember to the collapse at the US Open a year ago,
which makes him more fascinating, more vulnerable. He's not reckless,
he's not babbling demons. You just aren't quite sure what
you get. Putt to putt, wedge to wedge and off
the green despite all his talent. But when the green
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was in sight and I thought it was so really,
this was so much. This was a perfect way for
him to win Augusta. This was a perfect way. Four
double bogies, most ever for a champion. That web shot
into the creek of course Rory McElroy would have to
go to a playoff hole. It symbolized yesterday and Saturday.
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At the very best of his game, he pulls away
and then yet blows a four shot lead early yesterday.
He starts a little shaky, then he's strong, back to shaky,
then he then he's great and in the end the
winning putt was an emotional waterfall, proving once again, even
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for the all time greats, it is about absolutely resilience overcoming.
It was not Rory against Augusta. It was not Rory
against Bryson or Justin Rose. It was Rory against Rory,
and the prodigy delivered and gets the jacket. Now Augusta
is the first major and this could be the Rory year,
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or maybe it won't be, and that would be fitting too.
For the record, the British Open is in Northern Ireland,
one hour from where he grew up. Here's Rory on
Rory and Bryson on Rory.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
After this is my seventheenth time here and I started
to wonder if it would ever be my time, And
I think, you know, the last ten years, coming here
with the burden the Grand Slam on my shoulders and
trying to achieve that. There was a lot of pens
up of motion that just came out on that eighteenth green.
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But you know, I said, you know, a moment like
that mix all the years and all the all the
close calls worth it.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I wanted to cry for him. I mean, as a professional,
you just noted in the middle of the green and
I can't believe he went for it or it must
have just flirted it. But I've hit bat shots in
my career too, so it happens. And when you're trying
to win a major championship, especially out here Sunday Augusta,
the Masters, you have to you have to just do
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it and get the job done and do it right.
There were times where it looked like he had full
control and times I was like, well, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (05:42):
And that is what makes Rory McElroy as fascinating as
anybody in golf. I've always said this about Michael Jordan.
Michael Jordan was the best looking. He'd be easy not
to like. He was the coolest, the style, the earring,
the smile, handsome, great, be easy not to like. But
you watched him struggle, so you were invested in the
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journey with Michael. He wasn't the chosen one at sixteen,
he was cut by his high school coach. Lebron's less
likable Jordan's incredibly likable Tiger at times was robotic, great early,
dominating for a decade and chasing somebody like Lebron that
we loved Jack Nicholas. But Rory is different. There's a
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little MJ there. We have watched the struggle. I'm hoping
Augusta is the first of many, but that ten year
gap so symbolizes what makes him so incredibly embraceable. Way
to go, Rory. All right, so yesterday NBA plans are
going to be interesting. East is set, Calves, Celtics are great.
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West is all logjammed. So yesterday the Warriors need to
win biggest game of the year. They don't, and now
they're forced tomorrow to play a playing game.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
So listen.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I think Jim Butler's a playmaker. He's tough, he gets
to the free throw line. He's good for Steph Curry.
But the honeymoon is over. He made more free throws
in Golden Satan Field goals since he's arrived. Okay, so
let's be realistic about it. Pat Riley does not move
off many players. Pat Riley's as good a personal guy
as the league has had in my life outside of
maybe Red Arbach, and they moved off him, and he's
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got a shorter contract that it's not as punitive, not
as prohibitive as he wanted in Miami. But the reality is,
despite the fact that Jimmy Butler's made him relevant and
he's good for Steph, they've got a bigger problem once again.
A young warrior, Jonathan Kaminga did not play coaches decision,
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James Wiseman, Jordan Poole, Jonathan Kaminga, an immature D'Angelo Russell.
Young guys, squarely guys or immature guys don't fit here.
If Kaminga gave you a twenty one a night and
could play at the same time as Steph Draymond Butler,
he'd be on the floor. But it tells you what
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Kerr thinks of Kaminga and what he thought of Wiseman
and Jordan Poole and D'Angelo Russell was in and out
of town quickly. If you look at the history of
the dynasty, it's very much like the Patriots, Brady and
staph One overwhelming transcendent superstar to superstar who mostly plays
very very well with older players, Andrew Bogan, Andre Iguodala,
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Kevin Durant.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
You can bring the old guys in here and it works.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Now. Jimmy Butler is an additive, there's no question. But
because cominga doesn't work when Draymond, Steph and Butler are
all on the floor, the question is what do we
get from Jimmy Butler. He's shooting about twenty eight percent
from three point territory and it looks like and the
kaminga thing. We were all kind of waiting off the
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injury to see how it would work, and Steve Kerr
made a decision yesterday, I'm not even gonna play him.
So it looks like the ceiling is very apparent for
the Warriors. Yes, Jimmy Butler absolutely saved the regular season.
He's relevant, a playmaker, gets to the free throw line, tough,
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and help Steph. Those are all boxes that are checked
for Jimmy Butler. But again, in this dynasty, like Brady
just did not work with young receivers.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Bring in Randy Moss its magic.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Bringing a Don Branch again, it works, but you draft
the kid in the first round, Nikhil Harry, Chad Jackson.
It doesn't work by Brady wants to win now. He's
not gonna be your babysitter. He's not gonna teach you
how to run routes. And with the Warriors offense, young
guys can struggle to find their footing and it looks
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like Kaminga will not be part of the future, although
it seems like the only way they could win a
series a seven gamer against the Houston against the Lakers
would be a okay, see Houston if Kaminga played, but
yesterday not playing him, coach's decision tells you, now it's
not gonna work. Butler, Steven Draymond pods They're gonna have
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a ceiling. Here was Jimmy on the playing game.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
We got a lot of really good basketball players. Run
this open room key and what we're trying to do.
I like the confidence that he has in myself. I
also have the same amount of confidence. So I know
that I and we have a job to do, and
I know they were capable of doing it. So playing
here we come.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Well.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Playing game is tomorrow against the Wizards again the Western Conference,
Oklahoma City pulled away Houston's a little bit ahead of
the group, but then it's Lakers. For the next four
or five teams were all very close playing game. I'll
take the Warriors over Memphis. I just don't trust the
Grizzlies in big spots. But quite a day yesterday watching golf,
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I was thinking about this. There's been a handful of
moments in my life i've overwhelmingly and this is why
I supported the live tour.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I watched for golfers.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I don't watch for courses, but there is something magical
about a US Open at Pebble Beach. There is something
magical about Augusta and the undulating course and the challenges,
and we got all of it yesterday. I was talking
to Ryan on the staff this morning. I watched every
stroke like most of you did yesterday. I cannot remember
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being on pins and needles for four hours. And that
was Rory right like when he pulled away early, there
was no tension, no tension, and then he quickly lost
that lead. Of course he did, because that's what makes
him such a wildly entertaining spectacle.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Paul, what's so cool about Rory?
Speaker 6 (11:45):
You mentioned the resilience. How about what he said to
his daughter in front of everyone else. I know we'll
probably get to it in more detail later, but never
give up on your dreams.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Now.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
That was him in many ways talking to himself. He
mentioned the decade long odyssey of trying to win another major.
For him to do it, and to complete it in
the manner in which he did, I personally felt guilty
to he choked, it's over when he went to the playoff,
especially Justin Rose having already lost one. I figured, that's it,
this is Justin Rose.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I felt the same way I felt. They go to
the narrowest, the narrowest gree fairway, and I thought, oh boy,
all right. But yet yesterday, if you watched Rory in
Saturday too, in some of those moments when you had
doubt he delivered, it was when he got conservative that
he at times buckled by the way this just came down.
Mike Budenholzer fired Phoenix Sun's head coach. We didn't love
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the fit to start with, so he's on his way out.
There's a total rebuild there, personnel, roster coaching. Phoenix just
fired their head coach. Playoffs begin in earnest yes tomorrow,
Memphis and Golden State.
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Speaker 1 (13:59):
Colin forty minutes from now, Rick Buker, Albert Breerfrank Reich
stopping by the new Stanford head coach, former NFL head
coach and quarterback. So we had our first holdout in
college football and nobody's really happy about it. So Tennessee,
as a young quarterback, Nico Iamaliava is his name, Tall
moves well, was the number two quarterback in the country
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to Arch Manning coming out mobile, big arm, very very inconsistent,
needs a lot of refinement. But the bottom line is
he wanted to raise and he was making two point
five million, and he goes, I'm on four million, and
it was inevitable. There's no guardrails, or not enough of
them on the transfer portal nor the NIL. We just
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saw these basketball coaches like Tom Izzo and Rick Patino,
they were in the tournament and the transfer portal was starting.
John Calipari just laughed at it. There's not enough guardrails.
So this is why the NFL has a collectively collective
negotia ciating agreement rules guidelines. Folks, I don't blame the kid.
(15:04):
I blame the NCAA. They knew ten years ago guys
were going to get paid. Then California legislators made it happen,
and they've been playing catch up for a decade. The
governing body is it blame here? It's like players would
do this in the NFL if you didn't have a CBA,
if you didn't have a players union, you didn't have
a commissioner. This is what would happen in all sports.
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So what's happening in college sports? Specifically? A football player
at a key position at Tennessee. Now Tennessee last year,
just last year alone, made one hundred and forty nine
million dollars in revenue. These SEC schools are our banks.
Coaches Now, Kirby Smart makes twelve thirteen million. Tennessee's coach
probably makes somewhere between eight and twelve. And I just
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saw a duke quarterback a basketball school that transferred from Tulane.
He's making four million. So Niko's like time out. My
coach is making this average players making a million. We're
paying high school players. I'm making two point five. I
let us do a playoff. We may have been smoked
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by Ohio State, but I let us do a playoff
in the SEC with Texas, Oklahoma, LSU, Bama, Georgia. I
got us into a playoff. Now I don't think he's ready.
You know, he's got leverage. Some I don't like that
he's getting probably really bad advice from dad on this.
I tend to be a believer. You sign a contract,
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you live up to it. If he has a great year,
he would be a first round pick because of his
athletic ability, his size. He's got a whip for an arm. Though,
when I watched him in the four or five big games,
he was really really inconsistent. But this was going to happen.
So it's up to the governing body to get it right.
Why has the UFC succeeded that boxing has died? Why
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Dana White a governing body, a leader, and this is
college football's issues. Of course, kids with leverage are going
to do this. Coaches with leverage have moved. I don't
have to love it. I don't have to love the
dad's advice. But you can keep blaming the kids on
this stuff. But what it really shows you is that
change was needed. The kids need to be paid, and
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change is hard and it's fraught with chaos and turbulence.
I mean, this is why the PGA players, many of
them went to live that didn't like the leadership.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
What is the PGA. It's a charity.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
It doesn't run the Masters, it doesn't run the British
Open Strength in leadership and governing bodies is why the
UFC is flourishing and boxing feels like it's not. It's
why the NFL is flourishing, and college football right now
is wobbling. Don't blame the kids. Don't even blame the coaches.
Don't blame the administrators. Blame the governing body. The NCAA
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has been playing catch up on this stuff for years now.
I do actually like but Josh Haipe, who's a good
coach at Tennessee. I like his decision, which is, hey, listen,
we're not fond of this. The kid has a right
to do it, but we're gonna move on.
Speaker 10 (18:09):
I want to thank him for everything that he's done
since he's gotten here. You know, that's as a recruit,
to who he was as a player and how he
competed inside of the building, and so a great appreciation
for that side of it. Obviously we're moving forward as
a program without him. You know, I said it to
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the guys today, there's no one that's that's bigger than
the power team, and that includes me.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah again, I think I would have done the same
thing as a coach. I would have said, listen, you
didn't show up for practice. It's bad messaging. I don't
think that's good as the leadership position on a football team.
As coaching quarterback, I don't. That's like a coach not
showing up for a spring practice or a spring game. Hey,
I want to raise you got to show up for
the team. Quarterback is different. Football is different.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
So I didn't like that.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I agree with Josh Eipel's move, but we can all
point fingers and I read yesterday why the kid's not
that good? He's overrated Right now, he is a tad overrated.
But in the SEC where programs are making one hundred
and thirty five to one hundred and sixty million dollars,
coach is making twelve. He's like Duke's quarterback's making four.
I can't It comes down to management. If you look
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at if you horse racing, what's happening to it? What's
the leadership boxing, where's it going? Leadership college football? That's
our issue, not the kid. Here's Jordan with the news.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
No, no, no, turn on the news.
Speaker 9 (19:40):
This is the herd Line news.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
All right.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Colin Cleveland signed quarterback Joe Flacco and have been rumored
to take a quarterback in the upcoming draft, but Kenny
Pickett is still confident. He said he wanted to start
after the Browns traded for him, and then doubled down
again this weekend, saying, quote.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I'm not here to hay out. I want to play now.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Colin. The Browns would love for Kenny Pickett to.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Win this shot.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
They would, but they also have a tremendous amount of
comfort and Joe Flacco, you go back to two years ago,
leads them to the playoffs. I know he's older, but
a couple of scouts told me this, and I'm not
a quarterback guru, but they said, even though he doesn't
maybe have the same pop, the same juice, he still
has one of the premier deep balls. You can still
win with him. They are going to take a quarterback,
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I'm pretty sure in the draft. I don't know if
it's going to be at two, but I wonder for you,
if you're the head coach, if you're Kevin Stefanski, are
you rolling with Joe Flacco at forty plus?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
You know, I think he's a bridge obviously. I don't
think Kenny Pickett's the answer. I think he's an NFL backup.
I thought he deserved to get drafted somewhere first three rounds,
but I didn't think he was a franchise build around guy.
I'd be okay with Flacco. Flaco's a nice guy. People
like him. He's good in the room, great deep ball.
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You know, he's a pocket guy at this point, which
there's only a few left Jared Goff, Matt Stafford, Kirk Cousins.
There's not a lot of pocket guys left. But again,
I think it's a bridge year. I think the Deshaun
Watson debacle. If you can just maintain your GM and
your coach, don't fire anybody own it as an owner,
that was your big swing. Jimmy Haslam came out and
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acknowledged we made a big mistake we being him. I
think you have to just understand this year you're not
going to be a viable franchise. Flack O can win
your games. You got Miles Garrett paid, so I think
you just look at it as a bridge year. You're
not going to be Baltimore, and I don't think you'll
be Cincinnata.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Maybe the bigger picture than is what should they do
with two? Because to me, it's Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter
at two and then just move forward. He's the best
player arguably in the dress.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I believe to soften the landing on Deshaun Watson's contract,
what I would do is trade down and try to
get more picks, twelve picks, because Sean Payton proved this.
When you have, when you inherit a really bad contract,
only a couple of ways out of it when you
have all that dead cap money. One of them is
to find a quarterback like a bow Nix, we don't
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have to pay for four years. That softens the blow.
The other thing is hit on a bunch of draft picks.
So you have second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth round guys.
You're not playing for four years. So Cleveland really needs
a great draft. And if I was the Browns, if
I ran the franchise, I would trade down. I would
try to get total of eleven or twelve picks hit
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on eight of them, and again then all of a sudden,
you got eight guys on the team. You don't have
to pay for four or five years. That's the way
to do it.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
The Saints, speaking of teams looking for quarterback, they start
off season work today, but are doing so without Derek Carr. Now,
Carr is dealing with a shoulder injury, which could threaten
his availability for this season. Car is considering surgery, and
that has draft analysts thinking the Saints Colin could potentially
take Shadoris Sanders ninth.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Overall.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, I think shador and I'll talk about this before
the end of the hour, should do or will be
as good as the place he lands. I don't think
he's transformative. I think that Derek Carr thing didn't work.
We always had our questions, was it Derek Carr the
Raiders who were to blame? And now if we watch
Derek Carr New Orleans, the answer is probably a little
of both, is that it was some of the Raiders
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and it was some of Derek Carr. I don't think
New Orleans has ever been quite what we thought it was.
And I don't think I just I think it didn't
turn out the way Derek thought. I thought it would
I thought it would be more promising, but it's just
never felt right.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
The fits never felt right.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
He was never a.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Viable solution, at least not without the coach. Now Sean
Payton goes to.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Denver, that's different ballgames, that's a different ballgame.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
You mentioned Bo Nicks, but he got a defensive coach
who was over his head and for the second time,
and he's not the kind of player. We see this
with kids coming out of college. There are very few
guys that can overcome an insufficient coaching staff, let.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
Alone a bad roster. Ye see, And that's my point,
that roster is not a quarterback the way, even if
you think, unless you think shad Or Sanders is truly transformative,
which you don't, then don't take him at nine. You
need you are not a quarterback away. You need to
get as much it's BPA best player available, and then
maybe you get a quarterback in the second or third round.
Speaker 9 (24:13):
But regardless of it's.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Derek Carr not moving forward for this season. He's not
a viable solution long term. They're going to have to
figure that out without Sean Payne.
Speaker 7 (24:22):
Colin.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
This is really interesting to me. We actually talked about
this in the pre show meeting or just a few
minutes to a should say the Phoenix Suns have fire
a head coach Mike Budenholzer. Per Sham Sharanya of ESPN,
the Suns win from a forty nine win team with
a thirteenth ranked defense. They are in this sixth seed
under Frank Vogel. The year before then, they missed the
play in tournament completely. They finished ten and eighteen after
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the All Star break with the league's third worst defense.
They finished this season calling in eleventh place with a
thirty six to forty six record. We could go a
lot of ways with this. I don't know where they
go now, but obviously Bradley Beal is a big issue.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, and KD and Mike had their issues. D he's
a bucket. Still give you twenty seven a night. But
I never loved the higher I this is the NBA. Listen,
Matt ishb is going to start over. I appreciated the swing.
I said it when he did it, when he got
KD and Bradley Beal, I mean they weren't winning. I mean,
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let's be honest, when Booker was there by himself, they
weren't winning. Then they brought in Chris Paul and he
was the magic elixor to winning. Then Chris Paul leaves
and they're trying to kind of restart it, reboot it,
and figure it out. Boozier's a really good player. I
wouldn't want to give him up. I would move off
KD listen. I always appreciate the effort in the swing,
and the Ishbia family is aggressive.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I appreciate it, but it.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Didn't work, and they don't have a ton of draft picks.
So this is the challenge of an NBA franchise. They
the Bradley Beal thing.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
That's a mess.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
It was just a miss.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
It was a colossal miss because not only has he
not played well, he's borderline unplayable.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
And I watched Phoenix affair amount there are nights where
he's either not playing or he looks completely disinterested. And
for that salary and that what you thought you were
getting caliber a player, it's it's completely untenable.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, Jordan with the news, Well that's the news, and
thanks for stopping by the herd line. I was off
last week and Mike Malone got fired as the Denver
Nuggets coach, and it's it's really interesting situation. So right now,
the best basketball player in the world, and I don't
think it's that close. Nicola Jokic of the Denver Nuggets,
the joker. I don't think it's that close. I was
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looking this morning at his numbers this season. He's just unbelievable.
It's he is the second most talented center outside of
Kareem in my lifetime. That includes I didn't see Wilt
in his prime, but that includes Shack and a Keem
uh and Russell, and I mean, you'd argue Wilt Russell,
but I outside of Kareem, he's the best. He's the
best center I've ever seen. He's like are Vetas Sabonis
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in his prime on jet fuel, Like he does everything well.
And for Malone, he's a really intense guy. So this
was inevitable. He's not a twenty year personality. And what
happened in this story is as old as time is.
The GM wanted the coach to play his draft picks
because a GM's job isn't to win tonight, it's to
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build for the future. And you know, constantly being discussions
with the ownership. Whereas Malone's job. They want to win now,
so that's his old as time where the GM wants
to play young guys. Malone wanted to play Russell Westbrook
and head coaches in all sports they want to win.
That's how they keep their job. General managers want to
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win two but not sacrificing the growth of their young players.
So in all of this turmoil, Yokich remains the world's
best basketball player, having his greatest season in one of
the great seasons in the history of center. And Jokic
is kind of a private personality. So my take is
he likes hiding in Denver. He's got a trophy, he's
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got his money. Denver's not too crowded. It's a rocky
mountain time zone, fairly invisible for a big city market
like a Kansas city, and he's really happy there. He's
not gonna pound his fist on the table and demand
to be traded. He's got his money, his legacy, his ring,
and I think he likes it.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
He's just not the.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Kind of personality to demand a big move, and Denver
sort of trapped because they've never given him an All Star.
Although I would argue Gordon and Porter and Jamal Murray
are very good players. I mean, they were good enough
to win a championship and look like they could be
a dynasty.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
But they're now. They don't have draft capital.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
They're tied to three and four year contracts with good
players that aren't great players like Jamal Murray again, Porter Gordon,
Jamal Murray, good players, but they're expensive. They're tied to contracts.
They don't have draft capital. So I think what Denver
is is what Milwaukee was with Kareem They got one
title and that was that. And what Milwaukee is with
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the honest they got one title and that is that.
And I think Denver is going to fall into that
sort of dirt Novitsky, Dallas Mavericks. They got their ring,
but I just don't see a way out of their
current situation. I just don't nobody to blame. They earned it.
I love watching Jokic. I think he just had the
greatest season arguably any center has ever had statistically.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
But you know, they rolled the dice.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
They locked in good players with big contracts, and I
think they're sort of.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Trapped coming up.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
All right, So you know, the draft is obviously by
next Monday, that's Draft Week, it is not a great draft.
There are a lot of quarterbacks out there, and I
figured this morning I would just line all the quarterbacks up.
I'll tell you what I perceived them. You can, we'll
put it on the archive. This is what I think
these quarterbacks will do going forward in the NFL. There's
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about six guys I think worthy of a conversation, and
we'll talk about that next.
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Of your ear.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Dodgers can't hit. I go on vacation for ten days.
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top of Next Hour, Colin Wright Colin wrong on a Monday,
So Draft week is next week. We talked a lot
about Rory McElroy and that led our show today and
probably let every sports show in the country.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Just remarkable.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I was sitting there on Saturday morning, I went out
golfing because whenever golf is one of those sports like
I can watch basketball and not want to go out
and play basketball. I can watch football and not want
to go out and play football. But there is something
about golf is when I'm watching a great tournament, I
want to go to the practice ranger, I want to
go play with buddies. And I went out and played
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and it was just, you know, it's just a topic
of conversation how remarkable Rory is. And I think it
really does matter is that, like you know, Lebron James
will never be as popular as Michael Jordan. And there's
a lot of reasons for that, and that's not necessarily
a shot at him, but he was the chosen one.
And you know, there's so much Lebron. There's very few
secrets with Michael Jordan. He was sort of for the
(31:17):
most popular sports figure in America. He was kind of
private in his personal life. He didn't have Instagram, it
wasn't TikTok, it wasn't that generation. There was no Google
and YouTube and Michael Jordan. Again, people forget this that
he won as a freshman at North Carolina. He stayed
at Carolina for two years and one year couldn't even
beat in state rival n Z State, right, and then
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we saw the Pistons and the Celtics tackle him. So
you shared in the pain and the journey and Michael
crying when he finally won his title.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
And that's what's great about Rory.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
You know, there's a movie Goodwill Hunting, which almost all
of you have seen, and people come out to Hollywood
and they just forget how hard it is. It could
be David Letterman's story, it could be Michael Keaton's story.
It's Affleck and Damon. It took him over a decade
to sell that script and get that movie made. And
just watching at Augusta, the seventeenth trip for Europe's Tiger,
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Europe's golf Prodigy took seventeen trips and it's just once again,
it sort of is a reminder that success is really hard,
even for the gifted. When you watch that ten part
Michael Jordan documentary, remember watching that during COVID. Thank god
for that or I don't know how we would have
filled three hours. But I remember telling my kids he
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was the best looking player, he was the best player.
He was in Chicago, a big city. The commissioner loved him.
Nike loved him. Everything was there for Michael, but he
was battling with the GM. The ownership was cheap. Rodman's
going to Vegas for weekends and disappearing. He couldn't win
with stan Albrook or enough with Doug Collins. Then it's
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Phil Jackson who asked him to be more of a
leader and trust teammates. So he didn't he finally, but
we all shared in Michael's journey. He wasn't the chosen one.
He wasn't a prodigy. He was cut from high school
basketball team. He was the number three pick. And so
it just makes Michael more likable is that you saw
him get tackled by the Pistons for years and he
couldn't beat those great Celtic teams. That's Rory. This kid
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has been like he has been. I mean, it's so funny.
There's been so many because Tiger was so great that
you know, we were all waiting for the next Tiger,
and it's like, guys, there's not going to be a
next Tiger. We were kind of lucky in basketball, where
Kobe had a lot of the elements and components of
Michael cool, good looking, stylish, but with with Rory McElroy.
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I think we've found about as close to Tiger as
you're gonna get, which is an athlete tough. But the
difference is Michael was almost robotic. He would never lose
a lead. And that's why a lot of people preferred
Michelson and his story, because Michelson could be reckless and
play himself out of a major. I never feel with
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Rory it's reckless. He's just got the kind of personality
and it's strange, but sometimes it feels like he loses confidence.
And so it was so fitting that he had to
go to a playoff hole and I didn't think he
was gonna win. I thought, no, it's Justin Rose. You
can tell it about when Justin was on the thirteenth
or fourteenth, all you're like, and I know you're all
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sitting there thinking, is Justin Rose? What a buzzkill? He's
gonna win this thing. It's not gonna be de Shamba,
It's not gonna be a row. I'm not I have
to sit here for four hours and Justin Rose is
gonna win it. And that's nothing against Justin Rose, but
I was like, give me a break, what a buzzkill?
And so it was only fitting, and so maybe just
my pessimism, I thought, oh this, well, this is heartbreaking.
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This is just heartbreaking. And then you know he hits
that drive, then approach shot, nails the putt. Just a
remarkable four hours of golf. I'm interested to see the
TV ratings today. Nobody cares, but I would guess by
the way the Master's a is fantastic, I would guess
the ratings are through the roof. It was just just
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I couldn't take my eyes. You don't even have to
be a golf fan. You don't have to be a
golf fan. That was just my shoulders. I need a massage.
My shoulders are tight. And it was so absolutely appropriate
that it went to a playoff hole the quiet guy
Justin Rose, and then here's Rory. Had it lost it,
(35:28):
had it tied it, playoff, won it and you just
see that waterfall of emotion come out.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
And I'll tell you just so emotional washing that.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
The Augusta patrons, they they won't let you call it
a gallery if you're a broadcaster. And Jim Nansen, the
CBS crew tip of the cap, I thought you did
a remarkable job. Such great storyteller from your crew, you
know fifty years ago, Jack Nicholas a great way to
romanticize it. Look at the tradition, but stay current. But
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the Gallery always has a favorite, and it was very
easy early remember when it started out, and d Chambeau
was given high five to the Gallery. And he's more
of a he's a slower player and Rory likes. They're
both power players. For Rory likes to get up and
go and move and move, and d Chambeau has more pace,
but they're both big, powerful guys. So there was a
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feeling like d Chambeau was going to like irritate uh
Rory and take his time and go back and look
at things and slow the pace. But d Chambeau, who
by the way, was great until yesterday on the greens,
but his game's a bit of a mess. It unraveled
multiple times. He had distance issues the whole weekend, but
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he was so great on the greens until yesterday. He
stayed around. Rory's game was much much better. He just
had weird holes and weird shots. But early I thought
the crowd was into d Chambeau, but about the third
or fourth or fifth hole they really pivoted to backing
Rory and I thought it was just great.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Great.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Always trust the Augusta crowd. They're giving you the vibe.
They're they're telling you what the energy is.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
They did this.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Remember when Tiger won his last Masters or with Mickelson.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I always trust the patrons. They're telling you.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Just if you watch Augusta, they'll tell you the vibe
of the tournament by who they're pulling for. It was
Deshambo as he came out. He's like a pro wrestler.
He's high five and he's leaning into it. About the
third or fourth hole, everybody moved over to Rory.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
And it was great. Okay, So I promised I was
going to do this.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
So it is not a great quarterback draft, but there's
about five or six guys that I think are worth
just addressing, and I'm just going to tell you. I'm
lay it out here, Ryan says. He assures me we're
taping this, it will be it's an archive. But I'm
going to give you my feeling on six quarterbacks that
everybody's talking about in this drift. So the first guy's
(38:01):
cam Ward, who I do think offensive coach, good old line,
weak division. He's a playmaker, a super fluid athlete, he
was a no star recruit. By the way, he went
to a place called incarnate word, which sounds like a
term of philosophy professor uses and you never know what
it means. But it's a college no star recruit. I
(38:23):
think in that division, with that staff and that offensive line,
he's a playmaker.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
He'll win games. Is he transformational? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Plays a lot of hero ball, but there's something there
and he should be your number one quarterback prospect. Shador Sanders.
I like him more than NFL general managers. He's a
very smart decision maker and super composed and accurate. But
he's not He doesn't have a huge arm, he doesn't
have a lot of physical traits that are impressive, and
(38:52):
he gets sacked a lot in college. Some of that's
old line, some of it he holds it too long.
My take is he will be his good as the
coaching staff and his protection. So if he gets the staff,
the offensive coach, it'll be fine. If not, it won't
be much to write home about. Number three is Jackson
dart Folks. I see Zach Wilson with the Jets. His
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best games were against Duke Georgia Southern and Furman at
Zack Wilson. He's impressive, good looking kid, confident under Lane
Kiffin's system, but in big games, wasn't consistently accurate, wasn't
great with pressure. Also, Ole Miss has big time talent,
So this fields like Zach Wilson, where he's gonna blow
(39:39):
you away with his confidence. He's got a little bit
of an arm, but he was inaccurate in big games.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I don't think he sees the field particularly well.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
I don't think he's an anticipation thrower where I think
Shador Sanders is. So I don't see it, but he'll
get drafted in the first round. Enough gms like him.
Jalen Milroll Alabama, great kid, physical specimen. He is too
mechanical to ever be a great professional quarterback. But I
do think he's a much better version of Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Again, he's inconsistent.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
You know you're getting in the fifty percent completion percentage
on third and fourth down in the NFL. If you're
not good in the two minute drill or on third
down when everybody knows you're throwing, you're not a franchise
quarterback for very long. But I do think because he's
such a good kid. He's such a hard worker and
he throw. He's got some unbelievable traits. Somebody's gonna give
(40:34):
him a chance to start in this league. But again,
he's really mechanical. He's not terribly fluid, and I think
there's limitation Tyler Shuck out of Louisville. Don't get it.
Too many injuries in college. Big kid who can throw it,
looks the part. But remember he's older than Trevor Lawrence
right now. So the college kids that stay in college forever.
Speaker 10 (40:56):
You know.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Again, he's gonna be twenty seven here pretty quickly, or
playing against twenty years and twenty one year olds. So
a little overvalued to me. And then Kyle McCord at Syracuse,
who I've been saying now for three months. I think
he's the sleeper. Good in big games, anticipation, thrower, moves
well enough, accurate, highly productive at Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Had that win against Notre Dame. I like him.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
I think there's an argument he's the second best quarterback
in this class. Kyle McCord at Syracuse, formerly of Ohio State.
He's my sleeper. Cam's the best, and Shadur will be
as good as where he lands, all right, Colin Wright,
Colin wrong on a Monday.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Good to be back live in Los Angeles. It's the
hurt
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