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Herd Hierarchy: Colin ranks the top 10 NFL teams after week 1

The hype train for the Dallas Cowboys has started

 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
It's a Tuesday live in Los Angeles. It's the Hurd.
Wherever you may be and however you may be listening.
Thanks for making us part of your day. Jmack, it
has been very difficult for him this morning. He is
wondering what he has with the Jets, and I'm here
to tell him nobody knows, not even the Jets. The
good news is Aaron Rodgers wasn't limping around. He just

(00:50):
wasn't highly effective. After that one really good first half
drive where I thought the play calling was good. Oh
the free pass touchdown, Give me a break. I'm not
getting two worked out, but I did think they had
one really good drive. Now the Cowboys have five really
good drives. The Niners had seven really good drives. So
be that as it may. But I'm my question is
are the Jets capable of having eight scoring drives in

(01:11):
a game, and I don't think they have the players
to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
By the way, Julian Edelman's coming up later in the show.
Remember the first time he was on here, he took
a jab at me about the Jets. I wonder how
many they'll be lobbing my way today. You kind of
earned it, not me, Robert Salah earned it. Coach up
the defense, buddy, that's your job.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Weren't you kind of appalled by it?

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Kind of appalled?

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Undrafted running back, seventh round quarterbacks, seventh round receiver, pushed
all your first rounders round off the field.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
The kids asked if I could they could have dessert.
I was like, I don't give up, and I just
was angry. I'm like watching the game just so, yeah,
take it out in your kids, That's always the answer.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Very professional, right.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
Leave me alone?

Speaker 1 (01:49):
All right? Here we go. My takeaway on the Herd hierarchy.
There are two teams in this league that I think
are really good. I'm not sure there's a third. I'm
not sure sure. I think we have two really good
teams in this league and a bunch of uneven lopsided teams.
And bad quarterback play. Here we go, heard hierarchy.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Now go the top ten NFL teams according to College.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Number ten, listen, Baker Mayfield was fantastic. Tampa scored on
seven of eight drives. Baker was twenty four of thirty
and totally comfortable. And that's against dan Quinn, who's regarded
as a pretty sharp defensive mind. Evans and Godwin thirteen
of fourteen one hundred and forty four yards when targeted.
I don't think Tampa is a great team, but Baker

(02:39):
looked like the MVP.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
Of the league.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Bucks at ten, number nine, listen, they were in big
trouble for a while, but I know what Miami is
and what they are. On a very distracted day because
of that unfortunate Tyreek Hill situation, they outscored the Jaguars
when it mattered, thirteen nothing in the second half. The
only team in the league to have multiple one hundred

(03:02):
yard receivers. Listen, They're not an even team. It's all
about the brain and McDaniel, the speed on the outside
in Tua. But right now in the NFL, that's a
top ten team. I like Miami at number nine, number
eight Chargers. Again, they have an identity, more rushing yards
than passing yards. Physical play. I thought Joe Alt for

(03:22):
a rookie was unbelievable. Did not allow a single pressure
eleven snaps against Max Crosby. So they are a at tackle,
a at rush end, a at quarterback, and a at coach.
They have an identity. Ninety percent of this league this
morning doesn't have an identity. Chargers at eight, number seven.

(03:43):
Maybe it's low the Texans. They're still young, and that
was a tough road game, but they didn't have any turnovers. CJ.
Stroud played clean. They had four hundred and seventeen total yards.
You know, I'm I'm about a week from putting them
at number three. If they go home and hammer the
I think I may move the Texans to number three.
I'm not quite ready, but good God, Stefon Diggs comes

(04:06):
in touchdowns. Joe Mixon bang. I cannot believe how quickly
they have built this roster up. I'm a semi believer.
If they hammer the Bears, I think I'm putting them
at three right now. I've got them at seven, number six,
and it's just experience. Why I have the Ravens at
six because I worry about Baltimore's offensive line three new starters,

(04:28):
but you know what, they didn't even play that well
and they almost beat Kansas City at Arrowhead. I just
love the players and the things I love about Baltimore.
I truly love the owner, the coach, Lamar Stanley, the toughness. Listen,
if you can go toe to toe with what appears
to be an excellent, better than last year Chiefs team
and lose by an inch and a half, you're pretty

(04:50):
damn good. Ravens at six, number five, But I'll give
the Cowboys credit that I turned the fourth quarter off.
Sorry Fox, Sorry Tom. It was a blowout. I mean,
they got so so many pressures on de Shaun Watson.
Now some of that is The offensive line for Cleveland
was a mess. Like the Rams, it was using backups.
So I don't want to go too crazy on Dallas.
I still thought, situationally on that sixty six yard field goal,

(05:13):
it's Dallas and it was a banged up team. But
I'm gonna give them credit. I know it's September, I
know it's hype, but I'll put the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
At five, number four.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
The Lions played poorly in one. That's the sign of
a good team. Their defense allowed three hundred and four
passing yards, but some of that is McVeigh, Stafford, Cooper
Cup that's what the Rams do. But but I did
think many of the completions and throws were great plays
by Stafford, not bad defense. It wasn't like the Jets
last night where guys were wide open all over the field.

(05:45):
Stafford made amazing throws and the offensive line right where
it should be. With PFF is number one. Again, I
think this is a power team, not a pretty team.
They got a little cute and pretty against the Rams.
I think they should be running the football forty five
times a game. Number three, it's weird. I think it's
the Eagles, and I don't know if they're good. They're
bad defensively. Now some of that's Green Bay's great offensively,

(06:08):
but let's be honest. AJ Brown and Devonte Smith seventy
five yards plus rushing Saquon Barkley over one hundred yards.
Jalen hurts they got nothing but weapons offensively, and this
is an offensive league. Well, their defense isn't good. Well,
the Jets defense was atrocious last night, and that's supposed
to be a good one. The Ravens defense is supposed
to be a good defense. Kansas City did whatever they wanted.

(06:30):
I mean, you keep telling me about all these great defenses,
doesn't matter. At the end of the year, it's all offenses.
All I see with Philadelphia is playmakers everywhere all over
the field. So even though Jalen Hurts had some turnovers,
there were a machine. I think green Bay could get
to the Super Bowl and green Bay couldn't stop them.
Number two San Francisco eight straight scoring drives against the Jets.

(06:52):
I could put them at number one, but I have
so much respect to be able to beat the Ravens.
I'm not going to it is the Jets. What's amazing
is an undrafted running back. They got a tight end
from Harvard, a seventh round receiver, a seventh round quarterback,
didn't have Christian McCaffrey, and they did whatever they wanted
to everything, interior running, outside running, jet sweep, scream, everything

(07:17):
they wanted to do they did. All those first rounders
on defense for the Jets pushed all over the field
by six and seven rounders. Number one, I'll give it
to Kansas City seven yards of play against the Ravens defense.
And again I'll go back to this who really plays
great defense in the league. If you're great situationally, then

(07:38):
you're great in the NFL. Dallas had a great pass
rush against Cleveland's backup all line.

Speaker 6 (07:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
I think the bottom line is Xavier Worthy touched the
ball three times and had two touchdowns. That had to
be encouraging. Hollywood Brown's coming back. I think we have
I'll say it again, I think we have two great
teams in the league after that, Baltimore and Philadelphia. Detroit
our flawed team. Philadelphia and Detroit's back end defen didn't
very good and Baltimore's on line concerns. If they didn't

(08:06):
have Lamar Jackson, I don't know what i'd think, but
they do, so they'll get away with an average offensive line.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
The way.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
I saw some bad quarterback play this weekend, but not
with Mahomes and brock Purty. So there's my top ten.
Nick right, first thing's first host joining US live. I
think you'll probably not like the Philadelphia pick, but I'm serious.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Listen, Amos scored forty points and that's with three turnovers.
It's like they can win shootouts. That's what the league's become,
hasn't it.

Speaker 7 (08:39):
Well, sure, so I, yeah, I don't like I like
this hierarchy a lot. In general, there's a few I
would pick a few knits. I think, you know, the
Bills have an argument they should be on there over
the Dolphins. I really like that you gave Bakers the
you know, the love. But let's talk about Philly because

(08:59):
coming into the year, there was concerns how much are
they going to miss Jason Kelsey.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
Well, they had bad snaps and couldn't execute a Toushbush.
Seems like they miss him.

Speaker 7 (09:10):
Is Jalen going to continue to turn the ball over
at an alarming rate? Well, he had three and was
very fortunate he didn't have five. So yeah, is the
defense going to be a bottom five defense in the
NFL for the second straight year.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
It didn't blow me away.

Speaker 7 (09:28):
Despite the fact that anythink Jordan Love was that sharp,
I think you are potentially overestimating how good the Packers
defense is when evaluating how great the Eagles offense looked.
Listen Saquan was sensational, and we know AJ Brown is
a superstar and DeVante Smith is as good of a

(09:49):
number two receiver as anyone has.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
But I don't trust the coach.

Speaker 7 (09:54):
I don't trust the defense, and as more and more
time goes passed since that Super Bowl, I lose more
and more faith in the quarterback. So I think Philly
is way overvalued. I think Colin, what you set off
at the end there is exactly right. If you watched
football from Thursday to last night, it sure feels like

(10:18):
the Chiefs and the Niners are here and the rest
of the league is here. Yeah, which maybe makes an
argument that Baltimore should be number three, because while you
know Kansity controlled the game, Baltimore did have a chance
to steal it.

Speaker 5 (10:33):
And I don't know.

Speaker 7 (10:34):
How many people are gonna play when Kansaity is locked
in and essentially fully healthy, them tougher than Baltimore did.
And I know teams will get better, and you know
it's early, but it sure seems like that Kansas City
and San Francisco, the two Super Bowl teams from last
year through a week, look like clearly the two best
teams in football.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Also, I think what speaks so well other sports can't
do this. But Houston was a laughingstock two years ago,
So if they blow out Chicago, there's an argument they
are in the upper cross of the league. Which is
why it's so much fun. C J. Stroud is so good,
so fast. I want to talk about the Jets, though,
I said this, even though I can be disappointed with
teams like Miami, I know what they are, Buffalo McDermott,

(11:19):
Josh Allen, I know what they are. Hell the Patriots,
physical defense, I know what they are. I come out
of the Jets game last night. My take is, what
are they? The defense was awful? What was your interpretation
of what you watched?

Speaker 7 (11:35):
Oh that's so surprising that you said you came out.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
What are they? Colin?

Speaker 7 (11:40):
You know what they are? They're the Jets. The Jets,
the team. They've always been a team that is poorly coached, unreliable,
has had a good but if we're being honest, a
little overrated defense, folks.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
If folks have been.

Speaker 7 (11:57):
Trying to play this shell game, this three card MONI
game with the Jets narrative for three years now, which
is we have this amazing pass defense they've told us,
and I think it's good. I think it's a good
pass defense. Sauce Gardner is a great player. But then
they've also been saying, and we won seven games despite
having the worst quarterback, play in the world, not recognizing

(12:20):
one of the reasons your past defense number was so
good was because your own quarterback play was so bad.
Teams got a lead and didn't feel like they had
to throw the football, and so do I think that
the Jets, you know, letting their number one pass rusher
go because they were gonna get Hassan Redick.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
And then they gosh started, I knew it. Did we
leave the stove on? Do we leave the garage were open?

Speaker 8 (12:42):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (12:43):
No, we forgot to.

Speaker 7 (12:43):
Get him signed to a contract, the only hold out
left in the league, the Jets, who knew Matt Hackett's
not an NFL offensive coordinator? Can we replace him? Yeah,
let's replace him. Oh wait, we're not actually able to
get that done. The Jets are just gonna out keep
acting as if we have any evidence that Robert sala

(13:04):
is an NFL head coach. We know he's a defensive coordinator.
Is the NFL head coach? And then there is the
Aaron Rodgers. We know he can throw a pretty ball.
I'm old enough, literally old enough to remember Colin being
a kid watching the NFL today on CBS, and they

(13:24):
went outside for like a demonstration, and Dan Marino, who
might have been fifty three years old. Ye, he watched
him throw a ball. He's hurting people's hands. You're like,
my god, Dan still got it. The problem was he
couldn't move. I watched Darren last night. I know he
can throw a pretty ball. I don't know that he
can move. I know he got the ball out faster
than any quarterback in the league yesterday except for Jayden

(13:47):
Daniels making his first start and Baker, who was just
one two pass basically ever drop back. I don't know
why people wanted to believe this Jets team could be
a juggernhut. Oh my god, look at the weapons. Well
Mike Williams is one of the weapons. They're like, oh, well,
he's not healthy yet. Well, that's always the problem with
Mike Williams. Right, Garrett Wilson is a very good receiver,

(14:09):
Breese Hall is a very good running back, and that's
the offense. The offensive line is fine, which for the
Jets is a massive upgrade Rogers right now, if you
were to do the AFC quarterback rankings, he comes in
right in the middle, and they have a defense that

(14:29):
might not be able to consistently get a pass Rush.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
They allowed to score.

Speaker 7 (14:33):
On eight consecutive possessions yesterday, So yeah, I know what
the Jets are.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
They're the Jets.

Speaker 7 (14:39):
And it's crazy how many people believe this team could
win thirteen games and Rogers could be an MVP.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah, I was saying this about brock Purdy. Is it
the horse of the jockey. I feel like the Niners
offensive weaponry and Shanahan are a combination of Secretariat and
Seabiscuit and Seattle Slough. But I want to give the
jockey credit too. I will say this part about brock Purdy.
He doesn't have a lot of horsepower. Nick. He literally
throws to the right spot accurately every time. And I

(15:08):
don't know if he was six six and had a
howitzer or he ran around like Kyler Murray if it
would be better. He gets the ball to Hall of
Fame level players constantly, and it's he always makes the
right decision. And I said, you know, we always talk
about does a quarterback get the right coach. I almost
wonder if the coach got the right quarterback in Brock Purty.

Speaker 7 (15:29):
So that's an interesting way to put it that there
are there quarterbacks in the league. I'll take Kyler because
you mentioned him who objectively have more talent but would
not be as successful, Like would Shanahan say, no, give
me Purty the last pick of the draft over Kyler
the first pick of the draft, even if they had
the same salary. I think that's an interesting argument. And

(15:52):
I will also say this as a well, you know,
kind of established party skeptic. I was more impressed with
his game yesterday than some of his one hundred and
thirty passer rating, three touchdown games. I thought yesterday he
played very well, even though the stats are pedestrian. What
I will say is this, if someone were to come

(16:14):
out today and say, Jordan Mason, that's top five running
back in football, I think a lot of people would
be like, well, hold on, like what do you mean?

Speaker 5 (16:25):
And they'd be like, well, look at the numbers. What
more do you want him to do?

Speaker 7 (16:28):
And I think people would say, well, the context of
it has to matter, Like we know the Shanahan system,
we know how many running backs, and they say, well,
he's five yards to carry twenty eight yard.

Speaker 5 (16:37):
He did everything right.

Speaker 7 (16:39):
There is a bit I and people can say it's unfair,
but Jimmy Garoppolo casts a massive shadow over this for
some of us, which is, if Jimmy Garoppolo was a
D plus quarterback who looked like a B plus in
Shanahan's system, is there some concern that brought Party is

(17:00):
a C plus quarterback that looks like an A plus
and shanian system.

Speaker 5 (17:05):
There is? But he is in the system.

Speaker 7 (17:08):
And I thought yesterday without Christian McCaffrey, he was very
very good.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
I mean baseball, if a guy hits three point fifty,
it just doesn't matter. He can hit. If a guy
throws a no hitter, he can pitch. Same with golf,
same with basketball. It's very hard. Very rarely am I
fooled on a basketball player because of what's around him.
But in football it happens a lot that Aaron Donald
gets three people stacked up to block him in the

(17:33):
Edgeoe has get solo blocking. So I'm with you on this.
I like him. He didn't have a lot of horsepower,
but he does go to the right place and with
a brilliant coach, that matters. I was saying this about
the Cleveland situation. It's a mess, and I said, you
know what's funny is that Cleveland kind of decided and
I got it at the time, we're gonna upgrade from Baker.

(17:57):
We're better than Baker. And I'm gonna make argument, Cleveland
is Baker underdog, little brash, chip on the shoulder, feisty.
What they're not is DeShawn Watson. But I'm watching Baker
and is there an argument that they just should have
fought through and just stayed with this kid? Now it's

(18:18):
easy he.

Speaker 5 (18:19):
Is there an argument?

Speaker 7 (18:20):
How dare you ask me that? Yeah, there's an argument.
I was making it to you and you're trying to
run him out.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
Of the league. Yeah, there's an argument.

Speaker 7 (18:28):
Yeah, that Baker Mayfield, who took over a team that
was one and thirty one in their last thirty two
games before he took over, and his first year made
him respectable. His second year, they beat the Steelers in
a playoff.

Speaker 5 (18:44):
Game, and then he got hurt.

Speaker 7 (18:47):
Like the Baker's story is very simple to understand. He
suffered a shoulder injury to his throwing arm. He tried
to play through it, he was awful. Then oddly O'Dell's
dad turned against him, which really was a big deal,
and all of a sudden he's gone.

Speaker 5 (19:04):
And so, yes, I.

Speaker 7 (19:06):
If the Browns could have gotten a sure fire thing,
then I get it.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
But the Browns, it's just so it's so bad.

Speaker 7 (19:17):
That it's like, hey, this twenty six year old coming
off forty nine hundred yards is available, we can go
get him. That's never happened before. Well, yeah, it's never
happened before. Because that's not all you're getting with Deshaun
Watson as we have seen, and to me Colin appears
Deshaun doesn't want to be out there. Yeah, I think that,

(19:40):
And by listen, I think that at Homi's booed on
the road.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
He's booed.

Speaker 7 (19:45):
It's mortifying by the way, I shed no tears.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
He obviously did this to himself.

Speaker 7 (19:50):
And there is a long list of people that are
bigger victims because of Deshaun Watson than Deshaun Watson is.
But I think the Browns are in such of their
own doing a terrible spot. I don't think people understand
what the cap situation is for them. They they still
owe him in CAP dollars, Colin, Yeah, one hundred and

(20:13):
seventy three million, that's right. They have one hundred and
seventy three million of CAP charges owed to Deshaun Watson
starting next year. So he's unmovable, he's uncuttable, and he's unplayable.
So I think Jamis gives him a better option. H
But this is without question the worst transaction in NFL history,

(20:38):
And with the new with his play Sunday and then
the latest lawsuit yesterday, it just seemingly gets worse.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah. No, people look at that Russell Wilson deal. But
with Russell, they got bo Nix, who appears to be capable,
they got the coach right, and the truth is it
wasn't all guaranteed, so you can move off it like this.
You're they're the wrong.

Speaker 7 (21:01):
I mean, I just want to again, let mean be
a captainer just for a moment, because people like say
the CAP's fake.

Speaker 5 (21:07):
CAP's not fake.

Speaker 7 (21:08):
The cap is a credit card, and you can kick
the can down the road, but eventually it's due. Prior
to Russell Wilson, no team had ever had a dead
cap hit of more than forty million dollars. Russell blows
it out of the water.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
It's eighty.

Speaker 7 (21:24):
If they were to cut Deshan, it's one hundred and
seventy two million next year.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
That's not you can't do it.

Speaker 7 (21:32):
The caps to seventy your team would be insolvent.

Speaker 5 (21:36):
You can't do it. So it is. We used to
be twenty million of dead cap was untenable.

Speaker 7 (21:43):
The Russell thing where they're like it's eighty will split
it into two years, fifty five and twenty five. This
is unprecedented, and they they've.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
Got nowhere to go. I know we're gonna leave. Can
I pay you one quick compliment?

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Sure?

Speaker 5 (21:57):
Because I'm just shocked by it?

Speaker 6 (21:58):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Sure?

Speaker 5 (21:59):
Man?

Speaker 7 (22:00):
I really expected for at least two, maybe three of
these these questions to be Sam Donald related.

Speaker 5 (22:06):
You have really?

Speaker 7 (22:07):
I mean, I compliment you for staying focus. But what
a day in the Coward household watching Donald just dice
up the giants.

Speaker 5 (22:17):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
It took every bit of personal discipline to not get
on X for two hours taunting everybody. All I've asked for,
all I've asked for my audience, because you have people
that like you. IM not sure I do all I've asked.
I've been doing this thirty years. Could one person in
America support me on Sam Darnald? I can't find one

(22:41):
who goes well, he was twelve for twelve, It look
pretty good, That's what I said.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 7 (22:48):
I turned on the Hurt one of my favorite sports
days of the year, Sports TV days, the first Monday
after the first NFL season, noon Eastern, See.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
What Colin's going to talk about?

Speaker 7 (22:58):
And I'm like, man, I know he's supposed to talk
probably Cowboys, Grady, all of this. There's a great Sunday
night game Lions Rams. He might lead with Darnald. Colin
might lead with Darnald. I was really on the edge
of my seat, but so you great restraint, my friend.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
All right, uh, Nick, right, first things, first, great show
right after us. Uh yeah, it does feel like we
got two great teams in the NFL. And then I
don't know. I I what what the Houston Texans have done.
I know it's not a big brand. What they have
done in three years is is why the NFL's king
that I can't turn Houston off. That that team is

(23:36):
so much fun to watch. They got playmakers everywhere. Then
they go get Stefan Things and Joe Mixon and they
were good, offensively lacked here. I think I'm underselling him.
I just I keep saying, don't be hyperbolic, don't go crazy.
I don't know. Maybe I'm slow on Houston but I
watched I think that went over Indy. I think I
think the Texans are going to hammer the Bears this week.

(23:56):
It's my favorite pick of the week. I think I
think he is I'm I may be sleeping on him.
They could be the third best team in this league
after the Niners. You think I'm nuts. That game in Indy.
Everybody in the world, all the numbers told you take
the Colts Division rival at home underdog, and I think
Indy's good. I have them number eleven, rams twelve. I

(24:19):
had them in eleven. This week, I think Indy's good.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
No Saints at eleven, They're gonna get hammered by the
count the slow down.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
I wanted to show restraint on Donald because I knew
if I came out and I was too over the top,
it would sound ridiculous. I thought Donald was great, but again,
I think the Giants are absolutely awful, so I don't
want to go too crazy.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
And I thought, where are the Texans better than the Lions?

Speaker 5 (24:47):
Just this point?

Speaker 1 (24:47):
One spot quarterback?

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Really, I thought Jared Goff was your guy.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
He was. I think CJ. Stroud is a more mobile
Jared Goff. I'm not joking. I mean at some point
you see things I told you about Miller Moss, USC's quarterback.
You start giving me week after week. I watch you.
It's like C. J. Stroud may not be at Mahomes
maybe Alan Dude he is. He is special, no doubt

(25:14):
about it.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
I mean I and.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Their skill people are better than Detroit, their receiving, Cord
tanked Ell, Nico Collins, Tefon Diggs.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
I'm a Ross Saint Brown, Jamison Williams.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Coming when he's healthy. They don't have healthy now, but
they don't have a third. Who's their third?

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Khalif Raymond better at tight end with Laporta. Lions running
backs are better with Gibbs.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
And bodow down Joe Mixon.

Speaker 5 (25:39):
Joe Mixon is good.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
He's not better than Gibbs and Monty little thunder and
lightning action.

Speaker 6 (25:43):
Right.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
You got me on the Lions. Now you're pivoting to
the text.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
I can't deal with you, man, You put it off.
You'd be in a much better mood if the Jets
and want You can't deal with anything right now.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
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Speaker 1 (26:03):
Son't waste any time. Jmack with the news.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
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Speaker 4 (26:12):
All right, the developing story in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Justin Fields obviously started Week one for the Steelers. He
was not amazing, but he did a good enough job
to get the job done.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Six field goals for Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Well, Mike Tomlin just addressed his week two quarterback situation
talking to the media.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
There's what he had to say.

Speaker 8 (26:29):
As I sit here today, we're preparing as if Justin
is going to be our quarterback. I think that's the
appropriate way to do it. Speculation is a waste of time.
Russell's heard, he's not available to us, and we'll take
it day by day. Russ is not scheduled to work
in totality tomorrow to what degree I do not know,
and then we'll play it by ear from there based

(26:50):
on the results and the things that we see.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
All right, Well, that's not very hopeful. Did you see
there was a chart Warren Sap does a lot of
this stuff. There was a sharp, Warren Sharp. There was
a chart that Warren Sharp did and it showed Justin
Field's throws. He will not throw over the middle of
the Field's great, he listened, he just he just he is.

(27:14):
I'll run and throw outside, which makes it very easy
for a defense. So force him to throw over the
middle of the field. Like, that's the difference when you
people used to bang on Jimmy Garoppolo and I'm like
Garoppolo loves the middle of the field. He attacks it.
That's costant.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
Was that confidence or Shanahan scheming up stuff in the
middle of the field.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
They were tight, windows off. It's always tight in the
middle of the field.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
It just feels like like over one hundred yards. Yeah,
Russell Wilson, man, the end is near. It started to
feel like right. Next up crappy injury news.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
Pookakua sustained a PCL sprain in the Rams loss of
the Lions, saying me that he hurt during a joint
practice in training camp. Puka and Coua put on the
I r will miss at least the next four games.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, this is rough because they also lose their second
best offensive lineman, a top guard Avila. So this couple
of years ago their o line health did him in.
My guess is it's a lot and Cooper Cup is
an interesting player. Cooper, at this point in his career,
has been verbal, has said sometimes it's hard for him
to have two back to back really high volume games

(28:26):
because he's got some you know, physical stuff as he's aged.
So to me, it's like they're going down to Arizona
and they are running the football forty five.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Times Cooper Cup, I think at twenty one targets in
the open area. I mean, so once Pooka went out,
it was basically like and they don't have Tyler Higby
the tight end. So now they're without their top tight
end and they're arguably their number two ride receiver.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Rams game is run, rinse and repeat. Run.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Will Blake Korham get a carry this week?

Speaker 3 (28:56):
By the way they draft him, all this hype aboub
Blake didn't get a carry in the open what's that about.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
I thought he was gonna be good.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Now, maybe this is the game where McVeigh n leashes
him and he gets fifteen carries, but offensive line falling apart,
Arizona is favored. I know over the Rams, you're worried
about an zero and two start for your team of destiny.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
I really like the Rams, but nobody what do you
do with injuries? I mean, I thought they played a
brilliant second half at Detroit, and you just ran out
of bodies that overtime game. They were just shot. They
just didn't have any more energy. They were done with it.
They had no jewice left.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Final story is a bizarre one, okay, So Jadon Daniels
of the Commanders, your team, the Commanders. Jane Daniels for
some reason carried the ball sixteen times for eighty eight.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
Yards and the loss to Tampa.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Now he did score twice, one was in garbage time,
and damn Quinn has come out now and said he
wants way less running from.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
His rookie quarterback.

Speaker 9 (29:50):
We'd love to see him remain a passer first, and
I think it's gonna come with more experienced Scott. Honestly,
you know, when I can go extend it to throw it,
when they hey, this plays over, I'll get rid of
it and move on to the next play. So I
think you'll see that trajectory continue Scott as we go. Certainly,
eighteen carries is not the model you know that we're

(30:10):
looking for, certainly with Brian and Austin and others here.
But at the end of it. I do think we'll
continue to grow in that spot, but certainly not by
design to have that many.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Listen, I think what Jaden is doing is when he
doesn't quite have a feel, I'm taken off and running.
And that's the advantage to mobile quarterbacks. Oh well, I
mean I've seen this before, like Patrick Mahomes when you're
not quite seeing things, and Mahomes admitted year three, the
light went on. That's the advantage to a mobile quarterback

(30:42):
is that you can take off and pick move the chains.
I don't know what to make of Week one. Baker
was fantastic. They have real issues on the back end
of their defense. They need to go get the trade deadline.
They need to go get a corner.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Okay, So sixteen carries for Jaen Dan's right, Does that
seem like a lot to you or no?

Speaker 1 (31:00):
It does?

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Okay, So our Crack research team has come up with
a list of quarterbacks who had at least five out
of carries in the career and the number of times
they've had sixteen or more carries in a game. You
know where I'm headed with this. Do you want to
get so many times Michael Vick had sixteen or more
carries in a game once zero Steve Young zero. Josh Allen,
who loves to run zero. Cam Newton won in his

(31:25):
entire career. Jane Daniels did that in the opener. Colin
Kaepernick one time he had sixteen carries. Colin, this is
bad news. I'm definitely unsustainable. The only guy who's really
done a lot of it is Lamar Jackson, who's had
seventeen of them. And we don't like our quarterbacks running well.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
We also don't know he's as good as Lamar Jackson
would be. That'd be if he had as good as
Lamar Jackson. I can take. I'll deal with sixteen carries.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Jalen Hurts a lot of them, was you know, the
brotherly shove. Justin Fields twice has had sixty or more carries.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
With the law.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
I'm not this Daniels. He's going to be knocked out
for the season. But midway mark if he's carrying sixteen
times again.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Now they they come home, don't they to face the
Giants the Demon? What do you think about that? Both
teams were embarrassed.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
I may have bet the Giants this morning getting to it.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Well, I was gonna say both teams got embarrassed teams
that get like Carol Lina getting six at home against
the Charge. Yeah, like that's a lot of points for
a team, and the Chargers that doesn't have high octane
deep threats.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
So Brian Dabele took over play calling and the offense
couldn't move the football.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Their first series looked harold.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
They got inside the ten twice and couldn't score any points.
So I think, I know people love Daboll and he
was great with Josh Allen to say he's coaching for
his job.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
That's accurate, right, No day Ball's coaching for his job,
you think, so, all right.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
But they look like maybe the one of the worst
teams in the league with the Panthers right in Week one,
A new think it's a vikings.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
Of course you'll get another job. But I don't know.
Colin Davell. I think this is like back to a corner.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
He's got empty the playbook and they show well against
Washington win because the media is circling.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
The buzzards are circling in New York. Not quite for
the Jets because we know they've already always been there.
But there's a big one for.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Dabo Jmack with the news.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
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Speaker 3 (34:36):
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Speaker 4 (34:44):
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Speaker 1 (34:50):
Very interesting. Keep your eye Cults packers. We don't know
who's gonna start at quarterback for Green Bay. Uh listen,
there's two things. The hype train for the Cowboys has started.
There's two things we're gonna be exhausted from by early November.
Election coverage and the Cowboys hype. If you look at
their schedule, Dak got paid, Mike is talking about getting paid.

(35:14):
Their big favorites over the Saints. Here's the thing. They
got five games on the schedule. I'm gonna judge them
because they got a B plus quarterback, B plus coach.
They're gonna win a lot of these games. Giants are
two wins. I mean there's a lot of Washington and
Giants in Carolina and Atlanta and who knows what Pittsburgh is.
So the Ravens, San Francisco, the Lions and Philly twice.

(35:37):
Those are the judgment games. Those are the games I'm
really gonna watch because what we saw in the opener
was a very aggressive defense with Mike Zimmer an excellent coordinator.
Wasn't a terrible head coach either. But yesterday Michael Irvin
came on the show and he said, despite all the
discussion of money this offseason, they didn't get sidetracked.

Speaker 6 (36:01):
It's a tsunami when it's the Dallas Cowboys, right because
we all use it, we all talk about it, and
I worry about the mental strength of the players.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
You can't talk.

Speaker 6 (36:13):
Money all off season and then think you're gonna walk
into Week one and whoop somebody in the National Football
League and they've been talking ball all off season and
winning all off seasons. It doesn't work that way. And
I'm happy that Dak didn't fold.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Nope, Dak played well, played one of his better games.
Now the Cowboys, this is what they do Week one
last year they won by forty. It's an interesting week
in the schedule. One of the things that really jumped out, man,
there is a gap between the good quarterbacks and the
rest of them. I think the Thursday game Buffalo at

(36:51):
Miami is one of the rare games this weekend where
you get two high functioning quarterbacks, but it's a lot
of quarterback mismatches. It's the Raiders again, Lamar, it's Justin
Herbert against Carolina. Yeah, I mean it's it could be
Anthony Richardson against Malik Willis. I'm Trevor Lawrence is at home,

(37:13):
Deshaun Watson appears to be washed, so it's I mean,
it's Aaron Rodgers against a guy I'm not sure it
can play, will Levis. I guess Stafford and Kyler Murray's
a really really good matchup. Joe Burrow taken on Mahomes,
But I mean CJ. Stroud against Kayla Williams is a mismatch.
I mean, one guy's at home and is a legitimate

(37:35):
top six or seven quarterback. So and then Kirk Cousins
goes to Philadelphia. You know what was interesting about that game.
I heard somebody talk about it. I apologize for not knowing.
On Sirius XM this morning, somebody was talking about it.
They said, you got to look at the Atlanta Pittsburgh game.
Because Arthur Smith is now the coordinator for Pittsburgh. He
knew that entire Atlanta roster, like he knew, he knew

(37:57):
all the weaknesses. That was a huge advantage. Watch Atlanta
go to Philadelphia and be a more competitive football team.
But when you watched, when you watch Kirk Cousin throw
against Pittsburgh, it was step and throw. He did not
move at all in the pocket. Kirk Cousins off surgery,
like Aaron Rodgers off surgery, had about a three and

(38:18):
a half four foot radius. He was not moving out
of it. So, but it's it's a lot of quarterback mismatches,
a lot, very rarely do you see this many six
and seven point favorites in the NFL. This week is
littered with him, and I like the favorites in most
of them.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Can I ask, I don't know what the point was
of the kirk Cousins not moving in the pocket.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
So is this person saying, hey, that was at home.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Yeah, they're saying Philadelphia's defense is.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
Atrocious, atrocious You thought that the front seven.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Well, it gave up seven yards of play to Green.
Give me a couple of chunk plays to Jayden. So
the take is that Atlanta basic faced their old head
coach who knew the whole roster fail. Me much more
viable offensively against a bad Philadelphia I mean Philadelphia. Atlanta's
getting like.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
A touchdown six six and a half and they gave.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Up seven yards of play the Green Bay.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
So it's like, but wait, hold on, Colin, this is
in Philly as opposed to South Paulo, and it's at night.
I know Kirk cousins huge weakness. Remember he loves the
one pm games. That's what he said his best on
his schedule.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
Night games. He has struggled Sunday night football, Monday night football.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
I like, this is a weird week, you know. I
like dogs. I like almost all favorites. I love Houston,
I like Dallas.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
I'm with you on Dallas. It's a big number for
Houston to.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Be laying at home.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
I like Jacksonville, I like Detroit. I like all the
favorites this week, I know it.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
It's a dangerous I saw Tampa Bay could be down
three guys in the secondary.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
Winfield got hurt against Washington.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
That's not good for second There are not many great
secondaries to start with. Seattle's got a good one.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
For the blazing Fires.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
I'm just saying I looked at all the numbers, and
the first thing that jumped out to me is Wow,
there is a lot of six and seven point favorites.
Last week we had one big favorite, Cincinnati one. This
week you have like seven of.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
Them favored by six and a half.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
And I liked the favorites, so I've got to revisit it.
I found myself liking all the favorites. Drink you know,
or two our three Gillian Edelman
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