March 14, 2025 • 31 mins
Gonzaga head coach Mark Few joins the show to discuss their prep for another run through the Big Dance
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
It's one of the guys I love in this business.
Mark Few, Gonzaga basketball coach in USA.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Good Lord, Yeah, I listen. I listened to the other night.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I watched and listened to that Saint Mary's game and
they were pushing you around and getting a whistle and yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
You know, it's it's funny about this. You've got a
bit of a.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Formula, the international stuff Washington. Still you got a little
bit of a formula. And you know, it's it's interesting
that guys now come to you, I mean, cheat Holmegren
like like it used to be you were banging on
doors and and dies now come to you. So I
was talking to a friend of the other day. I said,
the downside to that is you've got to be more
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selective because more people want that's right, like it used
to be. If they come all taken. So do you
get into situations now where you're like, oh, he's really good,
we don't we don't have a spot for him.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
I think it's the biggest thing, Colin, is just kind
of staying true to your culture. I mean, and you
can get tricked a lot of times just on chase
and talent, and we st it still happens to this day.
But I think in the end, what we've found up here,
like what fits us is just staying true. I mean,
we we have to have somebody that that really really
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loves basketball and wants to work and then also just
values team and uh and then and then in some
cases sometimes we have to teach our transfers that a
little bit. We we kind of had to had to
do that this year. I think it's taken a while
for some of our guys to kind of really latch
onto to that and and figure out that's that's that's
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what needs to be done. And but I'll give this
group a lot of credit. Man. We we we've lost
a ton of games, you know, in the last one
or two possessions this year, and it has not broke
their spirit.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
They were very very driven down the stretch and uh uh,
you know the other night, I think it all came
to fruition.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, what I was thinking about this, has your experience
with Team USA helped you at all in the nil world,
which is kind of like semi pro in college? Like,
what do you take from you? Because everybody looks at
college and pro as two different worlds. Is there anything
they share that you've learned? Have you pulled something from
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college that can help you Team USA when you're dealing
with Lebron and staph or vice versa.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Oh, hey, tons of it. I think my players are
so tired of me referencing them and and I was
listening earlier to your show and just a great take
on Lebron. I reference him so much with our team
on just how he impacts winning. I mean, he is
just all about winning and hit his preparation and how
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much film he watches. He watches as much film as
the coaches is, how he takes care of his body,
and then to your point, how he communicates on the floor.
I talked to my team time and time again. He
hits the floor and he's calling out every ball screen,
he's calling out every coverage, he's talking on offense. It's amazing,
and I think that's why he's one of the greatest
winners in the history of all sports if you ask me,
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when you see the impact that he has. But then
I all reference Steph on his routine every day and
how great he was at the end of every practice,
no matter how hard we went or how long it been.
He he's in there just wrapping out his shots and
he's going to take in games. Yeah, and then the
players are probably a little tired of it, but it's
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been a great source for me. And then conversely, I
shared with the USA guys like, hey, you know, you
can you know you watch that Court of Gold series.
This is one and done. This is not a seven
game series. And you guys, you know this is my
world now and you can't have we can't have a
bad day. And to their credit, man, their competitive will
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shined bright in the in the biggest moment for us
to be able to get that gold and get it done.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Hey, by the way, so I'm gonna throw my hat
on and by the way, rip me to shreds if
I'm wrong, because you know, you know a million times
more than I do.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I said the other day, I said, Cooper.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
You you were wrong on the on the hair like
hair product comparison to to making the athlete get stronger
in the in the weight room or whatever. Earlier I
thought that was this strange analogy, the great take on
Lebron hair product. Yeah, I didn't quite. I didn't grasp that,
but I'm usually right on with you, pal. He lost
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me there.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Okay, So we were talking about Cooper Flag and he
just does everything well, score and transition, can use his body,
and I said, he's got some Jason Tatum to him
where there's nothing. I look at Jason Tatum and saying
he can do kind of everything. Who is the comp
for Cooper Flag? Because I think Duke's were really good
and I think this kid Mark he's ready to play
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in the NBA. It feels to me like right away
and can score right away.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Yeah, well he showed that this summer. He's scrimmaged against us,
and he was ready to go from the jump and
went right at us. You know, it was just a scrimmage.
It was our first scrimmage. Our guys were just getting
off the beach and everything with USA and vacation. But yeah,
he was very, very impressive. And the and the great
thing about him, man is he's he's he like to
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your point, he does everything well. I mean, he can
score if he has to. He's got a great feel
for the game. I mean, he's got from amendous positional size.
John's done a great job with him, I think. And
he played for a great coach and Kevin Boyle at
Montverd And uh, he really understands defense and he impacts
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the game in a big way on the defensive end.
So yeah, he's gonna he's gonna have a huge impact
from day one. But it's gonna be one of those
impacts like he does everything well. You know, I think
people are gonna pick up the paper and look at
the stats, and it's not always about that. It's it's, uh,
you know, a little bit like Lebron. He impacts winning
in a big way.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Has there been a team I ask you this every
year and tell me a team that none of us
talking heads talk about and that you've seen him or
watched him or scouted him, And you're like, yeah, I'd
rather avoid them in the tournament.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I don't have any real interest.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Has there been a little bit of a sleeper that
you know, sometimes we talk about the Dukes and the
Gonzaga and the Carolinas a little bit of a team
that you think is better than people quite realize.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
I mean, I think people realize how good they are.
I do, but listen what Houston's doing, what Kelvin's been
able to do, and to go through that league. I
think they went nineteen and one in that league is
just remarkable. And the intensity that they bring in, the
physicality that they bring and and now you know, their
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offensive efficiency is better than it has been. I had
a chance to watch them last week a little bit
and I was just came away just I mean, I've
always been impressed, but was really impressed with them. That
was That's probably one that jumps out. I don't know
if that really counts as an under the radar team.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Though, Hey, you you told us. I remember when chet
Holmgren was coming out and I said, ah, he's skilled,
a little skinny, and you said, oh, this guy's tough,
this guy's a fighter. Yes, And I got to tell
you he's good. He is a fighter. He is tough
by the way as I saw him in college, I'm like,
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what is that skinny?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
That kid's developed into something? That's insane.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
My goodness, he torched us not this summer, but the
year before and in USA, and I mean I've got
to see him up close and personal in that Just
he's one of those guys. You know how Steph changed
the analytics back in the day with shooting threes. I'm
telling you, Sga with that pull up jumper and the
tough two. I mean, watching that firsthand, Uh, it was funny.
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I Mean I was sharing that with Tylu like, Okay,
our drop coverage isn't gonna work. Yeah, but this guy
we had to start trapping him because he's just made
That's a that's a layup for him, that little pull up,
and that's what you give up and drop coverage. But yeah,
they've had a terrific, terrific year mark their head coach
has done a beautiful job to kind of navigating through
that and Chet I think that's one thing that's being
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underrated a little bit, is Check coming back for them.
I mean you're talking about just adding another credible piece
and just an incredible entity. And he's a competitive, competitive
dude man, and he he's got a big, big, strong
belief in himself and he's his body might not look
like it, but that dude is his nails.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
You know what we were talking about this earlier a
couple A couple more is that I said.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I like analytics. I absolutely believe in it.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
But I always joke what I really like is analytics,
which is when you get into big games, I want
Jimmy Butler and Andrew Wiggins both average eighteen. Jimmy Butler
is a handful Like they're both wing guys that average eighteen.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
They are totally different players.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Is that when you get into the tournament sometimes I like,
I always love Jalen Sucks. I like guys that get
in your kitchen. I like physical guys. Do you think
sometimes with analytics, are there players that you've had or
seen at USA and you're like, yeah, I'm sorry, the
analytics don't quite get the player.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Absolutely, And I'm so with you on that point. At
some point, I mean, it just comes down to who
who can make up, who can make a play, And
especially as you get deeper into the tournament, you know,
and deeper into the game, it's going to come down to,
you know, do they have that MOXI, do they have
that grit? Do they have that toughness? Do they have that?
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Everybody says they have confidence and swag, but do they
really really have that. I mean, again, I reference the
team USA, but look at you. Look at the shots,
Steph said, Look at Lebron, the shots that he made
down the stretch. Look at the the pull up that
KD hit against Serbia. I mean, just monster, monster shots
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and just happened. Because those guys are just so good
and have such incredible belief in themselves. You have to
have a guy like that going down the stretch of
the games, and analytics has nothing to do with that.
In fact, you got to just throw it out the windows.
In some cases, Colin, you'll be playing against the guy
and the staff will say, well, hey, shoot twenty percent
from three. I'm like, I don't care. At the end
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of the game, you know we are double teaming him
because I've seen him time and time again. Just make
those shots.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
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Speaker 1 (11:12):
Okay, finally, I'm not a big pill popper. But a
week ago, my daughter, I'm a crappy sleeper, she said, Dad,
I said, I can't sleep. She goes, oh, she pulled
out her pharmacy drawer and she gave me magnesium. And
you're a you're a lousy sleeper.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Too, Yes, in season in season, I'm bad sleeper, have you?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
And now tell me your magnesium backstory.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Well, first of all, I was listening to that show
and it was a day we were kind of setting
this up. Your entire staff that was just fit to
be tied with you on magnesium. They were saying you
were a maniac, and I was saying I was texting
back with them. I was like, I thought that was
one of his best shows. So yes, my daughter came
(12:01):
to me and actually shared this scene with Magee and
she had this little oil shed run rubbing on the
bottom of your feet, Dad, And I was like, come on,
and I'm just telling you. When I slept for eight hours,
had now I was the best sleep I've had in
a while. So when you started going off on't I'm
a big believer.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Hey, by the way, two final fours, you look great.
Your energy is through the roof. Jay Writ's a friend
of mine. I couldn't figure out why he retired. He
probably didn't want that nil nonsense. You should just Steph
Curry said, something here day Steph said, I'll retire. It's
not about stats. When I can no longer dominate a game,
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I'm out. Is there gonna be something with you? Because
your energy's insane, you're in great shape. What will be
the thing where you're like, all right, I'm gonna shut
her down in golf and go to my you know,
lake house and hang out.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Yeah, don't forget fly fishing there.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
That's good. That's good.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I mean I think probably when when you don't feel
you're having the same type of impact on your guys,
and then and then the other thing I would say,
calling like, I honestly think there's a point where you
get to where you know, other people need to enjoy
this spot, you know, and other people need to have
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the chance to do this too, you know. That's why
I don't see hanging on till you're you know. I mean,
some guys, it's fine if they want to hang on
till they're eighty, But I just think it's time at
some point it's good to share it. I got a
great staff here, and it's time for them experience this
as a head coach, you know, at some point. So
I think all of those factors go in. But you know,
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as long as it's still fun. It's a huge challenge adapting.
I mean, we could do a whole nother show on
all the adaptations that have needed to be made in
the last like twelve months in this profession. But you know,
you just you have to be willing to kind of
be flexible. And then I think doing the USA basketball
stints have really helped me kind of understand it from
maybe the professional side.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah, it's great seeing you, my man. Great scene.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Yeah you too, Mark. You look well rested this week.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
And you will be in about a month. You'll be
well in a month.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Great, Yeah, all right, take care, all right.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
He just you know, he's he and coach k have
really figured it out.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
You do a little bit of the Olympic stuff, which
is just so fun, so international, and then you you
dominate a college landscape and uh, it's you know, I
went to college right next to gone Zaga, so it's
a Spokane's really a beautiful place. Even the winter it's cold.
So what you're indoors playing basketball? If it was too nice,
you'd want to be outside, all right?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Uh? Jmak with a.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
News No, No, this is the herd Line News.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Right.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
I'm struggling with how to frame this first item here,
But something's going on with Aaron Rodgers calling Diana.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Russini just posted this on social media.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
The Vikings are having discussions about what they want to
do at quarterback and if they want Aaron Rodgers, Rogers
is giving them time.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
And waiting to hear from them. I don't get that
Vikings have yet to make a decision.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
We all wait. So I don't know what to make
of this. And there's basically three lines of logic here
that we're trying to connect.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
Number one, if the Vikings know something about McCarthy's injury,
why didn't they just keep Sam Darting?
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Right?
Speaker 6 (15:29):
Why would you kick the tires on Aaron Rodgers right?
Number two, like, is something wrong with McCarthy?
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Column, Well, JJ McCarney, they drafted him, he had two surgeries,
and now they're like, maybe we brought them.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Why wouldn't you keep Daniel Jones?
Speaker 4 (15:43):
That's another Yeah, that's another one.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
And then the other one is you can see why
the Steelers and Giants are ticked off because Rogers wants
the contender as opposed to the pretenders. I mean, if
you could go to the Viking to Kevin O'Connell justin Jefferson,
you take that over the Giants and Steelers in a heartbeat.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
It is odd because they gave picks to get JJ McCarthy.
He had a second surgery.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
But that was like seven months ago.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
He had no longer like, wasn't it wasn't it longer
than that?
Speaker 6 (16:09):
Yeah, because in August he was ruled out I think, right,
and that's when he had the initial surgery.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Then he needed to follow up.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
But like songs going on in Minnesoi, I don't I
don't get this at all.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
I don't either.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
Don't you think Donald would have been a better fit
in Minnesota than Aaron Rodgers. He was just there last
year they won fourteen games.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, I do. He's also in his prime, he's ten years.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
More, less of a headache.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Well just he's just younger and more athletic and willing
to move the pocket.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Maybe they didn't want to give him the thirty mill
or whatever it air Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Donald signed an incredibly team friendly deal.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Nothing's more team friendly than playing for the league minimum.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
But would Rogers do that the way Russell Wilson did
in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Okay, so the second surgery was reported on November thirteenth,
So let's go remember December January.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Thirty, so it's only four months since the second surgery.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Give it, it's still like four months to the NFL.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I mean, it just feels like to me, did the
surgery not quite stick or something take.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Maybe they found other stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
It's a big mystery, but it is holding.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
Well.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Listen, if you could go to Kevin O'Connell and Justin
Jefferson and Jordan Addison and Aaron Jones and their left
tackle who's coming off back off injury, you would take that.
Plus he knows the division.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Kind of the fact that you're right that they said
no to Daniel Jones. Notice Sam Darnold means they must
be entertaining this.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
They are.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I mean, it keeps getting leaked by a legitimate source,
so that wild.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
I mean, if I'm Rogers, I guess I get it.
Forget about the following Brett Farr narrative. Get I get
one of the best young coaches in the league and
an elite wide receiver a great tight end in Hackinson.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Jordan Addison's a great receiver. Aaron Jones is back. He
knows him from Green Bay.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
I don't know wacky stuff, all right, Let's move on
to the next story.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
And that's a cult.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
They brought in Daniel Jones to set up a hubet
competition between him and Anthony Richardson. Joe's was introduced to
Indy yesterday and discussed his opportunity to fight for the job.
Speaker 7 (18:09):
That's been the communication. It's, yeah, an opportunity to come
in and compete, and yeah, I'm looking forward to that.
I think, you know, I've had a lot of fun,
you know, a lot of respect for Anthony watching him.
I think he's he's certainly a talented young player, and
I think, you know, the competition aspect of it brings
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out the best and everybody, and you know, I just
I think we're both interested in helping this team win
games and whatever whatever we can do to help that happen.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Daniel Jones, Virticity Richardson.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Our staff put together a great stat Colt starting quarterbacks
since twenty nineteen. They've had ten since twenty nineteen, College ten,
second most of the AFC. If we had the list
on the screen, yes, Sam Ellinger there, remember that experience.
I think he's selling insurance.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
At Topeka right now.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Come on, I just this is.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Ineptitude at quarterback since twenty nineteen. This many guys.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Well, remember Carson Wentz had a very good year and
the owner forced them to get rid of him. So
then they were trapped and Philip Rivers went eleven and
five and he had a good year. Anthony Richardson has
been you know, you get about fifty percent of the time.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
He's been a miss.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
I thought he's working out with Josh Allen's guy, his
quarterback guru.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Anthon Richardson locked in. I don't know that's it.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
I think Daniel Jones is going to win this job.
I really do. I don't think it's going to take
that long to figure it out.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
I would better stake dinner on that, but I can't
back Anthony Richardson with actual after tax dollars. Final story
called Major League Baseball Show. Hey Otani and the Dodgers
have arrived in Japan for the Tokyo Series, which is
going to kick off the regular season Tuesday and Wednesday.
Otani's coming off an MVP award and he's making his
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way back from Tommy John surgery. He's excited to pitch. However,
a guy by the name of Barry Bonds you heard
of him. I'm sure he believes Otani should give up
pitching and focus on hitting.
Speaker 8 (20:07):
But Tani, dude, boy can play. There's no question about
who he is. I just my opinion. I just hope
he just stays at the hitting category because his hitting
ability is off the chart, and pitching, I just think
might tire him out. I think he should come out
of bullpen here and there like he has because he's
d h and he come out of the bullpen and
throw it inning into here and just because he's so
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good as a reliever too, like he could be one
of the dominant relievers and dominant starters. I think as
a starter, man, I think it might wear a tear
a little bit and tire him out. Why fix something
that isn't broken.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, I mean I look at the Dodgers' staff and
they don't need him to pitch. Could he be a
twelve to fifteen start pitcher?
Speaker 3 (20:49):
He doesn't.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
The first he starts the year not pitching, ends the
year spot duty. I mean, it's just they are so
rich because Glasnow will be healthy, They're getting a lot
of their arms back.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
Well, he made a good point about what about as
a relief pitcher, And we've talked about this with Travis Hunter.
Instead of being a full two way player, your situational
third and fifteen fourth quarter, Travis to get on the field,
make a play as a defensive back.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Right, Maybe that's o Tony.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Listen, We're not gonna burn you like you said in June, July,
dog days of August, but come September we might need
you in a pinch in the eighth inning to get
out of a basis loaded Jaim, can you pitch for us?
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Right?
Speaker 4 (21:25):
That's what Bonds sounds like.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
He's saying, Yeah, it does.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I think that's smart, smart baseball.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
You could you could get Dodgers could have a sex
man rotation. They have enough arms and give him extra rest.
And that that literally, that's how deep they are good to.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Have options like that, isn't he sure?
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I mean, I don't know what the weakness on that
team is. It's the most talent I've ever seen in
the baseball team ever, most high end town like eight
guys who are all star level play.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
You know, I heard they're saying that about the show. Yeah, right,
now the exact same words you just said.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah, sure, jmck.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
With the news, Well that's the news, and thanks for stuffing.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Them headlines today. Can't wait next.
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So mine or yours mine. So you're gonna you're there's
gonna be a I don't have.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
As spicy ones as you because it's tough, man, to
find four new playoff teams.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
It's not easy.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
So we have four new playoff teams in the NFL.
But we're doing it before the draft.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Yeah, before the draft, before the schedule, and the schedule matters. Man,
it's significant.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
All right, we call it Tomorrow's headline is today, So
one will be the headline for the first new playoff team.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
All right, well, I've alluded to this and you seem
to be close, but you're not quite there. The headline
will be Titans open a cam of whoop ass.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
I just wanted to say that word on TV because
it's been a minute. I am a believer in Kim
Ward and I like what's going. I like Callahan man,
I like him a lot as a coach.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
The offensive line started to gel late in the season,
and if you look again game by game, it's ugly.
Will Levis just kept screwing things up, and I think
cam Ward can have not quite a Jaden or CJ.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Stroud impact, But in a division where there's a lot
of uncertainty. The Colts don't know who their quarterback is.
You're not a believer in Trevor Lawrence anymore.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
The Texans, for some reason like have uplifted their offensive line.
The wide receivers have some questions After Nico Collins, I'm
not as high on Christian Kirk. I think the Tennessee
Titans can sneak in there and do some damage.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I think nine wins could get it done in this division.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Colin right, this is not there's no overwhelming good team
in here.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Not bad, take not bad.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I have him as a wild card competitor. Tomorrow's headline,
what about your second.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
New playoffs team?
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Okay, this one should probably have an asterisk by it
because you know they've been in the playoffs before.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
They're really really good.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
The headline will be since you been gone, Bengals back
to being American Idols.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Listen, it's tough not to love Joe Burrow getting back
to the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Agree, was it?
Speaker 6 (24:47):
The defense has some questions. We don't know what's up
with Hendrickson. I personally would move off of him. Sorry,
Max Cosby, I know you love all defense events. Would
I would let go. I would let Hendrickson go. He
led you in Saxon. You couldn't stop anybody. Yeah, I
think they give up over thirty five points six times. Yeah,
but I'm a believer in Burrow and Colin. We know
the last like four or five years, they've come out
of the gates very slow. They've been behind the eight ball.
(25:10):
I guarantee you that's not gonna happen this year. Joe
Burrow's gonna be ready, Chase is gonna get his deal.
I think they're gonna keep Higgins. I like the Bengals
to get back to the playoffs, maybe win the division.
I'm not as high on the Ravens again, but you've
got the Bengals as well going to the link.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yeah, It's just it's hard to bet against that receiving
cor Joe Burrow and an offensive coach who at least
sort of gets that side of the ball. Tomorrow's headlines today, Now,
how about a third new playoff team?
Speaker 6 (25:37):
This is your favorite new city in America. You could
see this coming a mile away. The headline will be
Bear market playoff stock sores after off season investments.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I didn't think you liked him.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
I mean, I do like the moves.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
The division's hard, though, so if you elevate the Bears,
I've got the Vikings winning the division.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Who's falling down?
Speaker 6 (25:55):
I think it's probably gonna be the lie in Sorry
Detroit fans, but this Bears team, man, there's a lot
to love. I wasn't feeling the genty stuff in the draft.
If they do get him, I think you might have
to get a Bear's super Bowl ticket at that point
because the offensive line looks like it's gonna be improved.
I think one of the biggest talking points, let's just
file this away, is gonna be Caleb Williams.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Can he get rid of.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
The football instead of pat looking around and trying to
do the backyard football?
Speaker 4 (26:20):
It would be a problem at USC and I think
I saw some numbers.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
He held the ball longer than I think, like ninety
seven percent of quarterbacks last year.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Fair that's got to stop. And he's got weapons. You
like the tight end. I like the head coach. I
got the Bears going on to the playoffs, so.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
You got the Titans in there, the Bengals, the Bears.
What is your fourth new playoff team? Tomorrow's headlines today,
let's see number four.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Oh and I had to dig deep on this one.
I couldn't go to my Jets.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
Remember last year I was bullish that ended badly. The
fourth new playoff team, it's in the NFC. The headline, well,
b there's a pe in playoffs. Panthers mark there territory.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Collin.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Listen, man, I know we've been.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Focusing on him last year.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
I was they hit their overwind total. It took him
into Week eighteen. They hit to pull it off. Call it.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
I know you're very excited about the Patriots and how
they've spent. Have you taken a look at the Panthers. No,
they secured five new defensive starters.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
This was a defense it could not stop and I
couldn't stop like.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
College football teams probably ha ha, but they have invested
heavily on defense. The wide receiver grouping leaves something to
be desired, but we think they're probably going t MAC
at eight in the draft. I like the Rico Dowdle.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Pick up quietly. He was kind of good last year.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
For years He's tough and behind a decent offensive line
that showed a lot of improvement. The left tackle a Kwanu,
the kid from enc State, he really improved in her
two I think that division could be had. I'm taking
the Titans in the AFC in a week division, and
I think the Panthers make a leap in a bad division.
I know you like Pennix and you like the Bucks,
(27:56):
but I don't think either of those are unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I mean, I mean, the Bucks won the divisions. The
Falcons beat him twice.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
It's a terrible We know the Saints are probably like
a four or five win team.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
They'll be in the mix for Arch Manning, who I
think played high school football in New Orleans.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
But I think the Panthers can really rise up and
it's only gonna take nine, maybe ten victories. And Bryce Young,
who were now bullish on because he was on our
flight to the super Bowl, and he's probably coming in
the studio suit.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
So I'm buying Bryce Young and the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Finally, tomorrow's headlines today, what's gonna be the headline for one?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Aaron at Rogers.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
So I couldn't find a fifth playoff team, and you know,
I'm talking to the guys and we're like, let's do
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
After those photos came out, we got something good.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
The headline will be local man wonders blitzed on audibles.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
I couldn't I mean, I'm sorry, the photos on the beach.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
I just couldn't stop laughing. I'm just glad he's done
in New York. That's all I'll say. Like, hey, man,
check out Minnesota. Maybe they want you if they don't
settle for the Giants and you'll go six or seven wins. Steelers,
good luck in that division.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
You're probably the.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
Third best quarterback in that division. The Browns don't have
anybody yet. I just I'm done with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
This. It's weird.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
We're seeing Lebron and Curry well into their thirties, still
at the top of their game, dominating the sport contenders,
and with Aaron Rodgers since he left Green Bay Colin.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
It's just not happening. It's over.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
Tom Brady goes to Tampa, wins the Super Bowl. Aaron
Rodgers goes to the Jets. It's a disaster in now Well.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Stafford goes to the Rams and wins the Super Bowl.
So I think the reason he's waiting is Minnesota. And
so my take is they are they don't have clarity
on the JJ McCarthy second surgery, and they wanted Darnald
to stay, but the number wasn't right, and they think,
you know what, we can get Aaron for a little cheaper.
(29:56):
And if they signed Darnald, Donald wanted security. He wanted
three or four years, okay, and Aaron, you may be
able to get him for a year and say, listen,
this is way better than Pittsburgh and the Giants, which
it is offensively. Come here for one year. You'll have
a great last year, you get on TV, you make
a lot of money, you'll have a lot of fun.
(30:18):
So I think I think Darnold was their choice. But
Sam had a market. Aaron doesn't have a huge market.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
Is it almost like when you're in high school and
these two girls want to go to the dance with you,
you know, the prom, and you're like, I want that
hot chick over there. That's gotta be the girl I want,
And that's Rogers looking at the Vikings we go, I want.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
To go there. I want Kevin O'Connor.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
If I could get Kevin O'Connell, Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison
and a division that doesn't really have a great defense.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
That's where I would go.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Indoors is not always greener.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Well, it's greener than the Jets, that's not sa Vikings
are absolutely greener than the Jets.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Well what a week. I was from.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Magnesi to a neurogum. I've kind of changed as I've
gotten older. I'm starting to take stuff.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
I like Mark Few.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
He was great.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
He was watching your magnesium take earlier this year. I
think a lot of people were.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
He He said, it was one of my best shows.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
And we're gonna get after it tonight.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Right, Oh we are. That's right, you forgot. Oh no, no,
I'm so excited. Now are we going there?
Speaker 4 (31:23):
I'm in about the whole past?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
How about six thirty?
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Okay, I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
You're gonna get after that. You're a nice outfit this time.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Class it up, all right, class
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
It's one of the guys I love in this business.
Mark Few, Gonzaga basketball coach in USA.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Good Lord, Yeah, I listen. I listened to the other night.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I watched and listened to that Saint Mary's game and
they were pushing you around and getting a whistle and yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
You know, it's it's funny about this. You've got a
bit of a.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Formula, the international stuff Washington. Still you got a little
bit of a formula. And you know, it's it's interesting
that guys now come to you, I mean, cheat Holmegren
like like it used to be you were banging on
doors and and dies now come to you. So I
was talking to a friend of the other day. I said,
the downside to that is you've got to be more
(01:08):
selective because more people want that's right, like it used
to be. If they come all taken. So do you
get into situations now where you're like, oh, he's really good,
we don't we don't have a spot for him.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
I think it's the biggest thing, Colin, is just kind
of staying true to your culture. I mean, and you
can get tricked a lot of times just on chase
and talent, and we st it still happens to this day.
But I think in the end, what we've found up here,
like what fits us is just staying true. I mean,
we we have to have somebody that that really really
(01:45):
loves basketball and wants to work and then also just
values team and uh and then and then in some
cases sometimes we have to teach our transfers that a
little bit. We we kind of had to had to
do that this year. I think it's taken a while
for some of our guys to kind of really latch
onto to that and and figure out that's that's that's
(02:08):
what needs to be done. And but I'll give this
group a lot of credit. Man. We we we've lost
a ton of games, you know, in the last one
or two possessions this year, and it has not broke
their spirit.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
They were very very driven down the stretch and uh uh,
you know the other night, I think it all came
to fruition.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, what I was thinking about this, has your experience
with Team USA helped you at all in the nil world,
which is kind of like semi pro in college? Like,
what do you take from you? Because everybody looks at
college and pro as two different worlds. Is there anything
they share that you've learned? Have you pulled something from
(02:49):
college that can help you Team USA when you're dealing
with Lebron and staph or vice versa.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Oh, hey, tons of it. I think my players are
so tired of me referencing them and and I was
listening earlier to your show and just a great take
on Lebron. I reference him so much with our team
on just how he impacts winning. I mean, he is
just all about winning and hit his preparation and how
(03:18):
much film he watches. He watches as much film as
the coaches is, how he takes care of his body,
and then to your point, how he communicates on the floor.
I talked to my team time and time again. He
hits the floor and he's calling out every ball screen,
he's calling out every coverage, he's talking on offense. It's amazing,
and I think that's why he's one of the greatest
winners in the history of all sports if you ask me,
(03:41):
when you see the impact that he has. But then
I all reference Steph on his routine every day and
how great he was at the end of every practice,
no matter how hard we went or how long it been.
He he's in there just wrapping out his shots and
he's going to take in games. Yeah, and then the
players are probably a little tired of it, but it's
(04:03):
been a great source for me. And then conversely, I
shared with the USA guys like, hey, you know, you
can you know you watch that Court of Gold series.
This is one and done. This is not a seven
game series. And you guys, you know this is my
world now and you can't have we can't have a
bad day. And to their credit, man, their competitive will
(04:24):
shined bright in the in the biggest moment for us
to be able to get that gold and get it done.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Hey, by the way, so I'm gonna throw my hat
on and by the way, rip me to shreds if
I'm wrong, because you know, you know a million times
more than I do.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I said the other day, I said, Cooper.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
You you were wrong on the on the hair like
hair product comparison to to making the athlete get stronger
in the in the weight room or whatever. Earlier I
thought that was this strange analogy, the great take on
Lebron hair product. Yeah, I didn't quite. I didn't grasp that,
but I'm usually right on with you, pal. He lost
(05:00):
me there.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Okay, So we were talking about Cooper Flag and he
just does everything well, score and transition, can use his body,
and I said, he's got some Jason Tatum to him
where there's nothing. I look at Jason Tatum and saying
he can do kind of everything. Who is the comp
for Cooper Flag? Because I think Duke's were really good
and I think this kid Mark he's ready to play
(05:22):
in the NBA. It feels to me like right away
and can score right away.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Yeah, well he showed that this summer. He's scrimmaged against us,
and he was ready to go from the jump and
went right at us. You know, it was just a scrimmage.
It was our first scrimmage. Our guys were just getting
off the beach and everything with USA and vacation. But yeah,
he was very, very impressive. And the and the great
thing about him, man is he's he's he like to
(05:50):
your point, he does everything well. I mean, he can
score if he has to. He's got a great feel
for the game. I mean, he's got from amendous positional size.
John's done a great job with him, I think. And
he played for a great coach and Kevin Boyle at
Montverd And uh, he really understands defense and he impacts
(06:13):
the game in a big way on the defensive end.
So yeah, he's gonna he's gonna have a huge impact
from day one. But it's gonna be one of those
impacts like he does everything well. You know, I think
people are gonna pick up the paper and look at
the stats, and it's not always about that. It's it's, uh,
you know, a little bit like Lebron. He impacts winning
in a big way.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Has there been a team I ask you this every
year and tell me a team that none of us
talking heads talk about and that you've seen him or
watched him or scouted him, And you're like, yeah, I'd
rather avoid them in the tournament.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I don't have any real interest.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Has there been a little bit of a sleeper that
you know, sometimes we talk about the Dukes and the
Gonzaga and the Carolinas a little bit of a team
that you think is better than people quite realize.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
I mean, I think people realize how good they are.
I do, but listen what Houston's doing, what Kelvin's been
able to do, and to go through that league. I
think they went nineteen and one in that league is
just remarkable. And the intensity that they bring in, the
physicality that they bring and and now you know, their
(07:24):
offensive efficiency is better than it has been. I had
a chance to watch them last week a little bit
and I was just came away just I mean, I've
always been impressed, but was really impressed with them. That
was That's probably one that jumps out. I don't know
if that really counts as an under the radar team.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Though, Hey, you you told us. I remember when chet
Holmgren was coming out and I said, ah, he's skilled,
a little skinny, and you said, oh, this guy's tough,
this guy's a fighter. Yes, And I got to tell
you he's good. He is a fighter. He is tough
by the way as I saw him in college, I'm like,
(08:03):
what is that skinny?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
That kid's developed into something? That's insane.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
My goodness, he torched us not this summer, but the
year before and in USA, and I mean I've got
to see him up close and personal in that Just
he's one of those guys. You know how Steph changed
the analytics back in the day with shooting threes. I'm
telling you, Sga with that pull up jumper and the
tough two. I mean, watching that firsthand, Uh, it was funny.
(08:31):
I Mean I was sharing that with Tylu like, Okay,
our drop coverage isn't gonna work. Yeah, but this guy
we had to start trapping him because he's just made
That's a that's a layup for him, that little pull up,
and that's what you give up and drop coverage. But yeah,
they've had a terrific, terrific year mark their head coach
has done a beautiful job to kind of navigating through
that and Chet I think that's one thing that's being
(08:53):
underrated a little bit, is Check coming back for them.
I mean you're talking about just adding another credible piece
and just an incredible entity. And he's a competitive, competitive
dude man, and he he's got a big, big, strong
belief in himself and he's his body might not look
like it, but that dude is his nails.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
You know what we were talking about this earlier a
couple A couple more is that I said.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I like analytics. I absolutely believe in it.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
But I always joke what I really like is analytics,
which is when you get into big games, I want
Jimmy Butler and Andrew Wiggins both average eighteen. Jimmy Butler
is a handful Like they're both wing guys that average eighteen.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
They are totally different players.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Is that when you get into the tournament sometimes I like,
I always love Jalen Sucks. I like guys that get
in your kitchen. I like physical guys. Do you think
sometimes with analytics, are there players that you've had or
seen at USA and you're like, yeah, I'm sorry, the
analytics don't quite get the player.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Absolutely, And I'm so with you on that point. At
some point, I mean, it just comes down to who
who can make up, who can make a play, And
especially as you get deeper into the tournament, you know,
and deeper into the game, it's going to come down to,
you know, do they have that MOXI, do they have
that grit? Do they have that toughness? Do they have that?
(10:18):
Everybody says they have confidence and swag, but do they
really really have that. I mean, again, I reference the
team USA, but look at you. Look at the shots,
Steph said, Look at Lebron, the shots that he made
down the stretch. Look at the the pull up that
KD hit against Serbia. I mean, just monster, monster shots
(10:39):
and just happened. Because those guys are just so good
and have such incredible belief in themselves. You have to
have a guy like that going down the stretch of
the games, and analytics has nothing to do with that.
In fact, you got to just throw it out the windows.
In some cases, Colin, you'll be playing against the guy
and the staff will say, well, hey, shoot twenty percent
from three. I'm like, I don't care. At the end
(11:01):
of the game, you know we are double teaming him
because I've seen him time and time again. Just make
those shots.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
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Speaker 1 (11:12):
Okay, finally, I'm not a big pill popper. But a
week ago, my daughter, I'm a crappy sleeper, she said, Dad,
I said, I can't sleep. She goes, oh, she pulled
out her pharmacy drawer and she gave me magnesium. And
you're a you're a lousy sleeper.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Too, Yes, in season in season, I'm bad sleeper, have you?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
And now tell me your magnesium backstory.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Well, first of all, I was listening to that show
and it was a day we were kind of setting
this up. Your entire staff that was just fit to
be tied with you on magnesium. They were saying you
were a maniac, and I was saying I was texting
back with them. I was like, I thought that was
one of his best shows. So yes, my daughter came
(12:01):
to me and actually shared this scene with Magee and
she had this little oil shed run rubbing on the
bottom of your feet, Dad, And I was like, come on,
and I'm just telling you. When I slept for eight hours,
had now I was the best sleep I've had in
a while. So when you started going off on't I'm
a big believer.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Hey, by the way, two final fours, you look great.
Your energy is through the roof. Jay Writ's a friend
of mine. I couldn't figure out why he retired. He
probably didn't want that nil nonsense. You should just Steph
Curry said, something here day Steph said, I'll retire. It's
not about stats. When I can no longer dominate a game,
(12:40):
I'm out. Is there gonna be something with you? Because
your energy's insane, you're in great shape. What will be
the thing where you're like, all right, I'm gonna shut
her down in golf and go to my you know,
lake house and hang out.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Yeah, don't forget fly fishing there.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
That's good. That's good.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I mean I think probably when when you don't feel
you're having the same type of impact on your guys,
and then and then the other thing I would say,
calling like, I honestly think there's a point where you
get to where you know, other people need to enjoy
this spot, you know, and other people need to have
(13:22):
the chance to do this too, you know. That's why
I don't see hanging on till you're you know. I mean,
some guys, it's fine if they want to hang on
till they're eighty, But I just think it's time at
some point it's good to share it. I got a
great staff here, and it's time for them experience this
as a head coach, you know, at some point. So
I think all of those factors go in. But you know,
(13:43):
as long as it's still fun. It's a huge challenge adapting.
I mean, we could do a whole nother show on
all the adaptations that have needed to be made in
the last like twelve months in this profession. But you know,
you just you have to be willing to kind of
be flexible. And then I think doing the USA basketball
stints have really helped me kind of understand it from
maybe the professional side.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah, it's great seeing you, my man. Great scene.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Yeah you too, Mark. You look well rested this week.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
And you will be in about a month. You'll be
well in a month.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Great, Yeah, all right, take care, all right.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
He just you know, he's he and coach k have
really figured it out.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
You do a little bit of the Olympic stuff, which
is just so fun, so international, and then you you
dominate a college landscape and uh, it's you know, I
went to college right next to gone Zaga, so it's
a Spokane's really a beautiful place. Even the winter it's cold.
So what you're indoors playing basketball? If it was too nice,
you'd want to be outside, all right?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Uh? Jmak with a.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
News No, No, this is the herd Line News.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Right.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
I'm struggling with how to frame this first item here,
But something's going on with Aaron Rodgers calling Diana.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Russini just posted this on social media.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
The Vikings are having discussions about what they want to
do at quarterback and if they want Aaron Rodgers, Rogers
is giving them time.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
And waiting to hear from them. I don't get that
Vikings have yet to make a decision.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
We all wait. So I don't know what to make
of this. And there's basically three lines of logic here
that we're trying to connect.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
Number one, if the Vikings know something about McCarthy's injury,
why didn't they just keep Sam Darting?
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Right?
Speaker 6 (15:29):
Why would you kick the tires on Aaron Rodgers right?
Number two, like, is something wrong with McCarthy?
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Column, Well, JJ McCarney, they drafted him, he had two surgeries,
and now they're like, maybe we brought them.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Why wouldn't you keep Daniel Jones?
Speaker 4 (15:43):
That's another Yeah, that's another one.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
And then the other one is you can see why
the Steelers and Giants are ticked off because Rogers wants
the contender as opposed to the pretenders. I mean, if
you could go to the Viking to Kevin O'Connell justin Jefferson,
you take that over the Giants and Steelers in a heartbeat.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
It is odd because they gave picks to get JJ McCarthy.
He had a second surgery.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
But that was like seven months ago.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
He had no longer like, wasn't it wasn't it longer
than that?
Speaker 6 (16:09):
Yeah, because in August he was ruled out I think, right,
and that's when he had the initial surgery.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Then he needed to follow up.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
But like songs going on in Minnesoi, I don't I
don't get this at all.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
I don't either.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
Don't you think Donald would have been a better fit
in Minnesota than Aaron Rodgers. He was just there last
year they won fourteen games.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, I do. He's also in his prime, he's ten years.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
More, less of a headache.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Well just he's just younger and more athletic and willing
to move the pocket.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Maybe they didn't want to give him the thirty mill
or whatever it air Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Donald signed an incredibly team friendly deal.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Nothing's more team friendly than playing for the league minimum.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
But would Rogers do that the way Russell Wilson did
in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Okay, so the second surgery was reported on November thirteenth,
So let's go remember December January.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Thirty, so it's only four months since the second surgery.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Give it, it's still like four months to the NFL.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I mean, it just feels like to me, did the
surgery not quite stick or something take.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Maybe they found other stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
It's a big mystery, but it is holding.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
Well.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Listen, if you could go to Kevin O'Connell and Justin
Jefferson and Jordan Addison and Aaron Jones and their left
tackle who's coming off back off injury, you would take that.
Plus he knows the division.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Kind of the fact that you're right that they said
no to Daniel Jones. Notice Sam Darnold means they must
be entertaining this.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
They are.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I mean, it keeps getting leaked by a legitimate source,
so that wild.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
I mean, if I'm Rogers, I guess I get it.
Forget about the following Brett Farr narrative. Get I get
one of the best young coaches in the league and
an elite wide receiver a great tight end in Hackinson.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Jordan Addison's a great receiver. Aaron Jones is back. He
knows him from Green Bay.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
I don't know wacky stuff, all right, Let's move on
to the next story.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
And that's a cult.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
They brought in Daniel Jones to set up a hubet
competition between him and Anthony Richardson. Joe's was introduced to
Indy yesterday and discussed his opportunity to fight for the job.
Speaker 7 (18:09):
That's been the communication. It's, yeah, an opportunity to come
in and compete, and yeah, I'm looking forward to that.
I think, you know, I've had a lot of fun,
you know, a lot of respect for Anthony watching him.
I think he's he's certainly a talented young player, and
I think, you know, the competition aspect of it brings
(18:30):
out the best and everybody, and you know, I just
I think we're both interested in helping this team win
games and whatever whatever we can do to help that happen.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Daniel Jones, Virticity Richardson.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Our staff put together a great stat Colt starting quarterbacks
since twenty nineteen. They've had ten since twenty nineteen, College ten,
second most of the AFC. If we had the list
on the screen, yes, Sam Ellinger there, remember that experience.
I think he's selling insurance.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
At Topeka right now.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Come on, I just this is.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Ineptitude at quarterback since twenty nineteen. This many guys.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Well, remember Carson Wentz had a very good year and
the owner forced them to get rid of him. So
then they were trapped and Philip Rivers went eleven and
five and he had a good year. Anthony Richardson has
been you know, you get about fifty percent of the time.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
He's been a miss.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
I thought he's working out with Josh Allen's guy, his
quarterback guru.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Anthon Richardson locked in. I don't know that's it.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
I think Daniel Jones is going to win this job.
I really do. I don't think it's going to take
that long to figure it out.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
I would better stake dinner on that, but I can't
back Anthony Richardson with actual after tax dollars. Final story
called Major League Baseball Show. Hey Otani and the Dodgers
have arrived in Japan for the Tokyo Series, which is
going to kick off the regular season Tuesday and Wednesday.
Otani's coming off an MVP award and he's making his
(19:55):
way back from Tommy John surgery. He's excited to pitch. However,
a guy by the name of Barry Bonds you heard
of him. I'm sure he believes Otani should give up
pitching and focus on hitting.
Speaker 8 (20:07):
But Tani, dude, boy can play. There's no question about
who he is. I just my opinion. I just hope
he just stays at the hitting category because his hitting
ability is off the chart, and pitching, I just think
might tire him out. I think he should come out
of bullpen here and there like he has because he's
d h and he come out of the bullpen and
throw it inning into here and just because he's so
(20:28):
good as a reliever too, like he could be one
of the dominant relievers and dominant starters. I think as
a starter, man, I think it might wear a tear
a little bit and tire him out. Why fix something
that isn't broken.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, I mean I look at the Dodgers' staff and
they don't need him to pitch. Could he be a
twelve to fifteen start pitcher?
Speaker 3 (20:49):
He doesn't.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
The first he starts the year not pitching, ends the
year spot duty. I mean, it's just they are so
rich because Glasnow will be healthy, They're getting a lot
of their arms back.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
Well, he made a good point about what about as
a relief pitcher, And we've talked about this with Travis Hunter.
Instead of being a full two way player, your situational
third and fifteen fourth quarter, Travis to get on the field,
make a play as a defensive back.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Right, Maybe that's o Tony.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Listen, We're not gonna burn you like you said in June, July,
dog days of August, but come September we might need
you in a pinch in the eighth inning to get
out of a basis loaded Jaim, can you pitch for us?
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Right?
Speaker 4 (21:25):
That's what Bonds sounds like.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
He's saying, Yeah, it does.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I think that's smart, smart baseball.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
You could you could get Dodgers could have a sex
man rotation. They have enough arms and give him extra rest.
And that that literally, that's how deep they are good to.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Have options like that, isn't he sure?
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I mean, I don't know what the weakness on that
team is. It's the most talent I've ever seen in
the baseball team ever, most high end town like eight
guys who are all star level play.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
You know, I heard they're saying that about the show. Yeah, right,
now the exact same words you just said.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah, sure, jmck.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
With the news, Well that's the news, and thanks for stuffing.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Them headlines today. Can't wait next.
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Speaker 3 (23:01):
So mine or yours mine. So you're gonna you're there's
gonna be a I don't have.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
As spicy ones as you because it's tough, man, to
find four new playoff teams.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
It's not easy.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
So we have four new playoff teams in the NFL.
But we're doing it before the draft.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Yeah, before the draft, before the schedule, and the schedule matters. Man,
it's significant.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
All right, we call it Tomorrow's headline is today, So
one will be the headline for the first new playoff team.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
All right, well, I've alluded to this and you seem
to be close, but you're not quite there. The headline
will be Titans open a cam of whoop ass.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
I just wanted to say that word on TV because
it's been a minute. I am a believer in Kim
Ward and I like what's going. I like Callahan man,
I like him a lot as a coach.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
The offensive line started to gel late in the season,
and if you look again game by game, it's ugly.
Will Levis just kept screwing things up, and I think
cam Ward can have not quite a Jaden or CJ.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Stroud impact, But in a division where there's a lot
of uncertainty. The Colts don't know who their quarterback is.
You're not a believer in Trevor Lawrence anymore.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
The Texans, for some reason like have uplifted their offensive line.
The wide receivers have some questions After Nico Collins, I'm
not as high on Christian Kirk. I think the Tennessee
Titans can sneak in there and do some damage.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I think nine wins could get it done in this division.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Colin right, this is not there's no overwhelming good team
in here.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Not bad, take not bad.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I have him as a wild card competitor. Tomorrow's headline,
what about your second.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
New playoffs team?
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Okay, this one should probably have an asterisk by it
because you know they've been in the playoffs before.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
They're really really good.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
The headline will be since you been gone, Bengals back
to being American Idols.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Listen, it's tough not to love Joe Burrow getting back
to the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Agree, was it?
Speaker 6 (24:47):
The defense has some questions. We don't know what's up
with Hendrickson. I personally would move off of him. Sorry,
Max Cosby, I know you love all defense events. Would
I would let go. I would let Hendrickson go. He
led you in Saxon. You couldn't stop anybody. Yeah, I
think they give up over thirty five points six times. Yeah,
but I'm a believer in Burrow and Colin. We know
the last like four or five years, they've come out
of the gates very slow. They've been behind the eight ball.
(25:10):
I guarantee you that's not gonna happen this year. Joe
Burrow's gonna be ready, Chase is gonna get his deal.
I think they're gonna keep Higgins. I like the Bengals
to get back to the playoffs, maybe win the division.
I'm not as high on the Ravens again, but you've
got the Bengals as well going to the link.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yeah, It's just it's hard to bet against that receiving
cor Joe Burrow and an offensive coach who at least
sort of gets that side of the ball. Tomorrow's headlines today, Now,
how about a third new playoff team?
Speaker 6 (25:37):
This is your favorite new city in America. You could
see this coming a mile away. The headline will be
Bear market playoff stock sores after off season investments.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I didn't think you liked him.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
I mean, I do like the moves.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
The division's hard, though, so if you elevate the Bears,
I've got the Vikings winning the division.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Who's falling down?
Speaker 6 (25:55):
I think it's probably gonna be the lie in Sorry
Detroit fans, but this Bears team, man, there's a lot
to love. I wasn't feeling the genty stuff in the draft.
If they do get him, I think you might have
to get a Bear's super Bowl ticket at that point
because the offensive line looks like it's gonna be improved.
I think one of the biggest talking points, let's just
file this away, is gonna be Caleb Williams.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Can he get rid of.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
The football instead of pat looking around and trying to
do the backyard football?
Speaker 4 (26:20):
It would be a problem at USC and I think
I saw some numbers.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
He held the ball longer than I think, like ninety
seven percent of quarterbacks last year.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Fair that's got to stop. And he's got weapons. You
like the tight end. I like the head coach. I
got the Bears going on to the playoffs, so.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
You got the Titans in there, the Bengals, the Bears.
What is your fourth new playoff team? Tomorrow's headlines today,
let's see number four.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Oh and I had to dig deep on this one.
I couldn't go to my Jets.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
Remember last year I was bullish that ended badly. The
fourth new playoff team, it's in the NFC. The headline, well,
b there's a pe in playoffs. Panthers mark there territory.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Collin.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Listen, man, I know we've been.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Focusing on him last year.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
I was they hit their overwind total. It took him
into Week eighteen. They hit to pull it off. Call it.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
I know you're very excited about the Patriots and how
they've spent. Have you taken a look at the Panthers. No,
they secured five new defensive starters.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
This was a defense it could not stop and I
couldn't stop like.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
College football teams probably ha ha, but they have invested
heavily on defense. The wide receiver grouping leaves something to
be desired, but we think they're probably going t MAC
at eight in the draft. I like the Rico Dowdle.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Pick up quietly. He was kind of good last year.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
For years He's tough and behind a decent offensive line
that showed a lot of improvement. The left tackle a Kwanu,
the kid from enc State, he really improved in her
two I think that division could be had. I'm taking
the Titans in the AFC in a week division, and
I think the Panthers make a leap in a bad division.
I know you like Pennix and you like the Bucks,
(27:56):
but I don't think either of those are unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I mean, I mean, the Bucks won the divisions. The
Falcons beat him twice.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
It's a terrible We know the Saints are probably like
a four or five win team.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
They'll be in the mix for Arch Manning, who I
think played high school football in New Orleans.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
But I think the Panthers can really rise up and
it's only gonna take nine, maybe ten victories. And Bryce Young,
who were now bullish on because he was on our
flight to the super Bowl, and he's probably coming in
the studio suit.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
So I'm buying Bryce Young and the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Finally, tomorrow's headlines today, what's gonna be the headline for one?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Aaron at Rogers.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
So I couldn't find a fifth playoff team, and you know,
I'm talking to the guys and we're like, let's do
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
After those photos came out, we got something good.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
The headline will be local man wonders blitzed on audibles.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
I couldn't I mean, I'm sorry, the photos on the beach.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
I just couldn't stop laughing. I'm just glad he's done
in New York. That's all I'll say. Like, hey, man,
check out Minnesota. Maybe they want you if they don't
settle for the Giants and you'll go six or seven wins. Steelers,
good luck in that division.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
You're probably the.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
Third best quarterback in that division. The Browns don't have
anybody yet. I just I'm done with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
This. It's weird.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
We're seeing Lebron and Curry well into their thirties, still
at the top of their game, dominating the sport contenders,
and with Aaron Rodgers since he left Green Bay Colin.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
It's just not happening. It's over.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
Tom Brady goes to Tampa, wins the Super Bowl. Aaron
Rodgers goes to the Jets. It's a disaster in now Well.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Stafford goes to the Rams and wins the Super Bowl.
So I think the reason he's waiting is Minnesota. And
so my take is they are they don't have clarity
on the JJ McCarthy second surgery, and they wanted Darnald
to stay, but the number wasn't right, and they think,
you know what, we can get Aaron for a little cheaper.
(29:56):
And if they signed Darnald, Donald wanted security. He wanted
three or four years, okay, and Aaron, you may be
able to get him for a year and say, listen,
this is way better than Pittsburgh and the Giants, which
it is offensively. Come here for one year. You'll have
a great last year, you get on TV, you make
a lot of money, you'll have a lot of fun.
(30:18):
So I think I think Darnold was their choice. But
Sam had a market. Aaron doesn't have a huge market.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
Is it almost like when you're in high school and
these two girls want to go to the dance with you,
you know, the prom, and you're like, I want that
hot chick over there. That's gotta be the girl I want,
And that's Rogers looking at the Vikings we go, I want.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
To go there. I want Kevin O'Connor.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
If I could get Kevin O'Connell, Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison
and a division that doesn't really have a great defense.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
That's where I would go.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Indoors is not always greener.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Well, it's greener than the Jets, that's not sa Vikings
are absolutely greener than the Jets.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Well what a week. I was from.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Magnesi to a neurogum. I've kind of changed as I've
gotten older. I'm starting to take stuff.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
I like Mark Few.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
He was great.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
He was watching your magnesium take earlier this year. I
think a lot of people were.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
He He said, it was one of my best shows.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
And we're gonna get after it tonight.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Right, Oh we are. That's right, you forgot. Oh no, no,
I'm so excited. Now are we going there?
Speaker 4 (31:23):
I'm in about the whole past?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
How about six thirty?
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Okay, I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
You're gonna get after that. You're a nice outfit this time.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Class it up, all right, class
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