Jenkins and Jonez - Why Is The NBA Including Karl Malone In All-Star Weekend

The guys discuss the disgrace that is Karl Malone being such a big part of the All-Star festivities, their feelings on the dunk contest in 2023, JuJu Smith-Schuster’s tweet, DeMeco Ryans living out the Key and Peele skit, old school iPods, and more. #Volume #Herd

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(01:28):
you feel me, so that means I was not ten
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once that bubbles, I'd just like to be clear that
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(01:52):
Uh Dragonfly Jones, Okay, Tyler, everybody have a game. Uh
Tyler with a great quote that he shows up five
minutes late to the pod because he knows John is
showing up ten minutes late to the pod and five
minutes late for me to show up a minute later,
and then you add four minutes of my ship wasn't

(02:13):
ten minutes late, nigga. Neither y'all are right. I'm guardy
v A K. Mike, Uh, I'm glad we got John
all worked up about this. That's great. That's a great
way to start the show. Uh Okay, I actually am
angry about a sports thing, and I think you guys
probably are too, so I want to talk about it.

(02:35):
All Star Weekend is coming up. It's not a particularly
exciting All Star Weekend to me for a variety of reasons.
It's in utah Um. Number one, the Dunk Contest. I think,
what could be interesting, but it doesn't have any names,
which always sort of hurts that Saturday excitement. But the
NBA has done something I think is really genuinely disgraceful, um,

(02:56):
and I wanted to talk about it on the pod
to start off, which is that Karl Malone has been
announced as a judge for the All Star Weekend for
the Dunk Contest. They said that he was going to
be a big part of the festivities. I sort of
assumed that they were lying, But he's gonna be a
dunk contest. Calm Malone impregnated a thirteen year old girl

(03:17):
while he was a college athlete. That's twenty years old.
Bro's a thirteen year old girl and from from his
hometown of about three hundred, so he knew damn well,
how old that girl? Was like everyone knew each other there.
M impregnated her and then was absent in the you know,

(03:37):
as she was raising his child. Um. And you know,
I thought we were I honestly did think that we
were in a different place than this as a society.
I was shocked that they put they tweeted out a
photo of his ugly fucking face. UM. And I don't know,
I really can't believe it, but I think it's a
disgrace for the All Star weekend. I think it's a

(03:59):
disgrace for the NBA. I cannot fucking believe that in
three that they're doing this. Um. I'm hopeful that it
will be walked back because people have been so angry
about it. But what was your guys reaction when you
you know, open Twitter and saw the NBA welcoming Karl
Malone back out there with open arms. Not just who
was wondering what the fund is wrong with the NBA.

(04:20):
I don't know. If they don't we forgot or we
wouldn't care. But that is just a a complete disconnect
from how fans feel about this dude. He is universely disliked,
right Like, I mean, I get the whole you know,
he's a he's a jazz player, and the festivities are
at Utah. But funk all that, Like, I know, it's
between him or or fucking you know Q and non

(04:41):
John Stockton, you know, with his crazy ass who's going
off the deep into But you can just say fun
both those guys easily. You do not have to invite
either one. Bro. It's that fucking simple. It's just weird
that the NBA seems to be the only people that
don't know. He's a fucking horrible, fucking human. Every everybody
knows it. But but what's been really weird? I mean

(05:03):
fun the NBA like actual normal people hitting me up
saying he was twenty, she was fucking thirteen. I've a
funk how old he was, Nigga, there's well, there's there's
there's no really proof he didn't go to jail. Actually
there's a whole as child as proofd weird. Oh are
you fucking crazy? Bro? You know what I mean? You
want me to fucking forget what he did at twenty

(05:24):
years old? Bro, It's just it's just insane where people
will go to make excuses for these weirdos. But the
NBA is just like dog everybody knows what he did,
you know what I'm saying. And for these normal people
to make excuses whatever, they're fucking idiots. But a whole
organization that's wild, That is wild as hell, man, And

(05:45):
it's just like dog like it's you said, Mike, and
this climate, in this climate, you're gonna parade this fucking
crazy weirdo. You know what I'm saying out here? Come on, bro,
Well he did it when he was twenty. He's lived,
so I don't give a fuck. Somebody somebody said he
grew up to be a Hall of Fame basketball players.
Some other person said I talked to him. He was
a cool guy. You know, he likes to go squirrel hunting.

(06:07):
I don't give all fuck you, weirdo the funk I
gotta doing anything, dog, It's just insane to me. I
just I can't. I can't. I can't believe anybody would
make an excuses for him. And it's just weird. The
NBA continues to just ignore the reality of Karl Malone.
You know what I mean, Come on, gee, it's a
weird blind spot to have. He's not essential to anything

(06:28):
that they're doing. This is not like finding out that
Michael Jordan's did something horrible in his past. This car.
No one needs car Malone to be a part of festivities. Bro,
Nobody's nobody's like karm alone or the mailman dog. Oh man,
I remember, nobody's nobody has like who who? Who is
like talking about NBA basketball in the nineties at his
peak and mentioning kr Malone, Their memories will called alone,

(06:51):
you know, NBA Jam, Karl Malone was my ship, you know.
And I'm not saying that if if, if someone more
essential to basketball history had done something horrible, we should
excuse that. I'm just saying this should be a fucking layup.
Like there is no Carl Malone sized hole in any room,
you know what I mean. No one's looking around going damn,

(07:11):
I wish Carl was here. Like that's not a sentence
that has ever been said at the NBA function. Man.
I mean, even if he wasn't a bad human being,
having him come by in wave is more than enough
car than anybody needs, you know what I'm saying. Just
walk him out a wave. He leaves his motherfucker, you
know what I'm saying. Like that, and you have this,
you know, like, oh, this predator out here, you know,

(07:35):
Reping You know what I'm saying that the duck contests.
You know, it's just it just makes no sense. It's
it's it's crazy. It's it's it's literally crazy to me. Yeah,
fun carm Alone. Fun the NBA for this, and it's
been fun carm Alone. How long have people been saying
for carm alone? What at least at least ten years,

(07:55):
you know what I mean, at least when we launched,
Like you know what I'm saying. I mean, I've been
there for like twenty five years. I mean, one of
the most slaggerless all time greats. Like I was a
little kid and I was like, this motherfucker is so lame,
Like you couldn't need these old me who was very
easily impressed, you know what I mean. I thought this

(08:16):
motherfucker with them a little weak ass l a gears
and that little whack ass putting your hand behind your
head dunk. I thought that ship was so lame as
like a third grader either. Still, Tyler still thought they
were pulling coins out of his ears and could sniff
out that kar malone was lame, like right, and the
nerve to put that motherfucker on the Dunk Contest panel, Like, bitch,

(08:36):
that's one of the worst lamest Dunk trademark Dunk's ever
from one of the worst lamest terrible fucking you know
NBA all time great sto. So we really need any
of this. Putting karm alone on the Dunk Contest is
like putting you guys on a white actress judging panel,
Like he doesn't know anything about this ship dog Like
this is not his specialty. You know, he's gonna see it.

(08:59):
There's sixty his eyes are gonna fall out of his head.
He's not gonna have any idea what to do with it.
And also the Dunk Contest, bro we they probably struggling
getting viewers for this motherfuck any but I don't know
money who watch that. You said, nobody's in it. You
feel me like, you know, it hasn't be any other
ship they want to talk on Karl Malone or we
could talk about I'm just saying that, and then they're
adding Karl Malone to it. It's just so, it's just

(09:22):
it's it's nonsense. Yeah, So the Dunk Contest is kJ Martin,
Trey Murphy, the Three Jericho Sims, and mc McClung, like
even like a shade on Sharpe, who would have been
like a great dunker, but who's not necessarily a big name,
Like they didn't even you know what I mean? And
I think, I mean, I'm sure there'll be some good dunks, um,

(09:43):
I think that you Like, I'm glad they got kJ
Martin in there. I think that'll be good. But like
who who am? I like? This is for the dunk
Contest is supposed to be a door open to kids
in imagination and a wider audience. And this is the
most hardcore hoop junkie lineup you can have. Like how
many even casual to moderate NBA fans have heard of

(10:06):
three of those four dudes? I will say this on
on another note of why it further needs to be
fun carm alone, Like I get the whole you need
to play up to the jazz you know, fan base,
to the to the home crowd. But you've got an
undersized white g league in the Dunk Contest that Utah
is gonna eat that ship up right with with with

(10:26):
mc mclung. Right, the kid is sucking Like what's six too?
He's he's he's a g leaguer. He got bunnies, right,
Virginia Hook's legend. I was sent to this kid when
he was like fourteen fifteen, Right, he got bunnies. He's
gonna put on a show, no doubt about it. But
like if you wanted to play to the Utah crowd, like, bro,
we're doing some unprecedented ship while by calling up a
G leaguer just because he's undersized and white. And let's
not overlook that for Utah right right there, They're they're

(10:49):
trying to get their rudy fucking story here, you know
what I mean. And I'm not mad at at at
Stern for on that Stern at Oh Silver for that,
because there are cool ways that you can play up
to your crowd like that, not that car Malone ship.
Yeah yeah, And he's the most popular person in the
Dunk contest and he's not even an NBA you know
what I'm saying. He is the most popular athlete in
that dunk contest, you know what I mean. But but

(11:10):
as as as like I think Maximnna put on the show.
I'm not anti mac Bean in there, but it just
feels so thirsty from the NBA to put a G
leaguer in there, you know what I'm saying, Like I
think when it when he gets to that point, you
have to really question, you know, what's really going on
with the Dunk contest. It seems like an obvious year
to say, let's try something new. You feel me? Yeah,

(11:30):
I mean yes, and I don't. And that seems a
little a step further than what should be done. Adding
somebody that's not in the n b A in the
NBA All Star Dunk Contest, you know what I mean, Like,
what does he play? Like dirty games in the NBA
was last yearsn't played any this year? They signed him
to it, Like I believe they signed him to a
ten day for the All Star weekend. Yes, just so
we could be in the dunk so he could be

(11:51):
in the Dunk Contest. Who's signed him silver personally up
to game A ride? Yeah, I mean, you know, like
we we talked last year, we kind of kicked around
different ideas. I think that like they're being experimentative with
the rest of the weekend. Like the thing I'm most

(12:13):
excited for in the entire weekend is the draft it
which is something new they're trying that we talked about,
Like that, Like, that's cool. I'm excited for that. But
why feel the need to stick to the dunk contest
format requires superstars? And if you don't have superstars participating
in it or Aaron Gordon, Zach Lavins who are going

(12:34):
to do superstar ship with the ball, Like, it's time
to look at the format and go, okay, let's find
something that fits. Who is available to us to participate
in the dunk contest? That's my opinion on it. And
you know, look like NBA dudes versus YouTube dunkers, like
well all the other things we talked about kicked around,
all of that would be interesting with these dudes because

(12:54):
they could dunk, But you need something different in the format.
This is not you know, I think like the top
two dudes in the league showing down in the finals,
like you just have to do something different. In my opinion,
I mean, what what is the benefit of being in
the dunk contests these days? Like you know what I'm saying, Like,
is there something that people would benefit enough where if
they were to lose, is worth the risk? You know

(13:16):
what I mean? You know, I think I think a
lot of guys just feel like, you know, if they
would not win the dunk contests. Taking that ill on
on their is bad for their brand, you know what
I mean. Well, that was that was always was sort
of speculated that that was why Bron didn't do it right,
was that it was like me, it wasn't worth the
risk to him of participating and then losing to a

(13:37):
dude who was not like a top shelf dude. Also
to me, like Bron's a game dunker, you know what
I mean, I understand like Brian now, he's not gonna
do He's not a dunker in the sense that Jordan
was a dunker at that time. You know what I'm saying,
We're like Jordan was gonna do some show off ship.
The ship Brian does, it's not gonna impress you as
much because of his size and he's not that type
of dunker, you know what I mean. Like I mean

(13:58):
do with the cock back, you know what I'm saying,
the joint that we see that's like the dunk that
we are. You know, I'm saying he rocked the baby
a couple of times. We don't see a bunch of
like you know, like slam dunk contest type dunks like
Jordan or Kobe would even do you know what I'm
saying in game, you know what I mean? So I
get that, but yeah, I think that's the reasoning. But
what what benefit? What what? You know, what would they
benefit from that would be worth that that potential loss

(14:20):
of the brand, which I don't think it's that big.
I mean, we talked about a one on one competence
and people are talking about that, you know what I mean.
I think there's a bigger chance of like if you
lose one on one to like fucking you know, if
Spencer then what he said, he's never lost some one
other than Katie. You know what I'm saying. If a guy,
if Kyrie goes against Spencer and loses in public, that's

(14:41):
a bad look for the brand. You know, I get that,
But the dunk contest doesn't seem like it's that bad
of a look, you know what I mean, If you
were to lose that, it's just it's what it is.
But that's a perception, you know what I'm saying. Everything's
been done a million times over, Like there's there's nothing
new that you can really bring to this ship. And
at the point conscious is more interesting in me, it's
been that way from most years, which is interesting. Y'all know,

(15:01):
I love the skills challenge. I mean I love me.
Give me that, give me the go and talk to
you about it again, because it was fun. As soon
as you said it was, it was we clowned Joey.
You did, you did. Yes, not the worst Republican over
on the show, but yes, but but yeah, I mean,

(15:24):
I just I think that, like Tyler said it. The
other aspect of this that we don't talk about is
when we were little kids watching the dunk contest, you
would have a couple of you know, you'd have some
dunks in games. Some We barely had Sports Center though,
and we certainly didn't have YouTube. So if you're trying
to make a pitch to Vinny and his friends elementary

(15:45):
school kids, now I can go why they could go
watch the Aaron Gordon Zach Lavine dunk Contest. They could
go watch the great any good dunk anyone's ever done
on any park in the history of digital media. It's
difficult to compete with with a time on the clock, uh,
and four guys in one arena who are feeling the pressure.
So I think, to me, you almost have to bring

(16:07):
back Superstar level dudes, or just let it die or
figure out a new format, because it's just not a point.
And I think the worst part is that Saturday is
supposed to get everyone excited for Sunday, and it feels
like the opposite. It feels like everyone's just kind of
sad about the dunk contest. That's the off day, bro,
That's the off day, you know what I'm saying, Like,
that's the day I don't pay attention to All Star Weekend.

(16:29):
I mean with that that particular event at least, you
know what I mean. But uh, yeah, it's it's it's
it's interesting. But like like there's there's people making money
off of being good dunkers alone on you you know
what I mean. There are professional dunkers out here that
are making bread off of that ship. So like I
guess like, hey, you know, you know, you get a
superstar in there, exactly Meine, Maybe you know what I'm saying,

(16:51):
Like Levine, when I did this thing, but I saw
flight someone so with someone so do that you know
at a seven twenty you know, like yeah, So it's
it's it's kind of hard to impress these kids these days. Um,
all right, there is the draft on Sunday, which I'm
very excited about. Are you guys tuning in to see
if if anyone gets visibly butt hurt about their draft

(17:13):
order to All Star picks? Very very much looking forward
to who's gonna who's gonna be the last guy selected?
I mean, I think all of us are for that
shotting fruit right there, right, so yeah, man, I'm think
it's probably gonna be triple J. Unfortunately. I hope they
zoom in though, so we'll see. Please give us all
the angles on on the heartbreak. I'll be feeling bad

(17:37):
for motherfucker's man. I hope it's not a young All Star.
It's an older All Stars. Somebody's been in the league
for a while. It was more set, you know what
I'm saying. That's cool, But if you new to the
new to All Star game and you catch that ill
like that, that's going, that's gone. That's gonna hurt me.
Ain't gonna lie, You're gonna throw up the awkward, awkward
cool guy thumbs up or something just like, alrighty twenty

(18:01):
three year old, two old me and the last person
picked in the draft, let's go. That's that hurts should
be the crowning. It should be the crowning moment of
your life to that point. And uh, you could think that,
you know what I mean, if you like, if you're
twenty if you're twenty three, that's going a hurt. No,
you know what I mean? All Right, Well, I guess

(18:22):
speaking of feelings getting hurt. Uh, I want to talk
about the social media dust up between Juju Smith Schuster
uh and the Eagles. Uh. You know, obviously full disclosure
close with Juju and his family. I certainly have a
rooting interest in uh in this. But let me just
say this, bro, what specific moment in the development of

(18:46):
social media did professional athletes get so fucking sensitive? Like
you lost the Super Bowl. The people who win a
championship get to talk shit. That's the reason we have championships.
That's the reason that sports were invented. If you win,
you get to tuck your ship. If you lose, don't
go on social media going well this is a cool bro.

(19:08):
You know you don't have to do this show, right.
Were with dignity, went with dignity, The city of Philadelphia
were with class. Bro. Listen, listen like like like when
that whole ship went down. I tweeted out like, if

(19:28):
you're thinking about feeling sorry for Eagles fans, don't, okay,
because Eagles fans would not feel sorry for y'all. Eagles
fans would have fucking showed up in in droves and
ref uniforms for their victory parade and something like that
happened right there. Those types of assholes, you know what
I mean. So, but I will say this. You know,
we we've had some Republican roundball takes from me. I
feel like this is gonna be a bit of a
GOP grid Iron take for me here. I think that

(19:52):
ju Ju kicked Bradberry a little too much while he
was down right. I feel like if Bradberry didn't own
up to it, if he was like, no, I wasn't
a whole you know, if if he was, you know,
running from it, I feel like that's fair game. But
brad Berry man up, said bro it was a hold,
I fucked up. He owned that ship, and I felt like,
you know, Judu just posted on a little too much
then with that one. I think the thing is it
was funny, but it wasn't funny enough, you know what

(20:13):
I mean. If it was a little funnier, I don't
think it would have hurt as much, you know what
I'm saying. It seemed a little personal, And I mean
he had a great and people are bringing up his
numbers and shipped over the last few games and stuff
like that. He had a great second half, you know
what I'm saying, Like he was a big part of
that win. He was receptions and yards and some some
little fucking white football analyst was on Twitter saying this

(20:35):
is gonna be the end of his career. Nobody wants
a players like that. Mother overside a thousand yards and
season as the number two, He's gonna be just fine. Bro.
So yeah, yeah, but but yeah, I mean I don't
I agree with tyler ness, but I think, like, man,
if the roles were first, you'd be talking the same
type ship. So that's what's that's what's weird, you know
what I mean, Not just Eagles fans, but he was players.

(20:57):
You gonna talk your ship when you win too. It's
just what it is is, you know what I mean.
So I get I get what Tyler said on the
like it's because it was aimed at the specific guy,
But knowing the dude and knowing his background, this is
exactly what happened. Someone sent him that meme and he
was like, that's funny, and he posted it that like
that's like that, like that's what happened. And I say this,

(21:20):
there's five thousand students at Long Beach Poli High School.
If you had anything wrong with your personage on any
given day, you were not walking past the black kids
and you were not walking past the Samoan kids, because
they were both going to fire your ass up and
it would be a great competition for who would get
fired up the worst. And let me tell you this,
Juju is half black and half Samoan. The force is

(21:43):
strong within that one. That dude was piled on beyond
belief for his entire life about being mixed race Samoan.
He doesn't give a funk about some dude made a
bad play in the Super Bowl. Is piling on like
that's just fucking life, bro, And it's football and it
was all in good fun. And if the Eagles that
responded in good fun to me, like, that's that's what
sports is supposed to be. The fact that they, you know,

(22:06):
some of them get on Twitter like that's too far, bro,
y'all were trying to kill each other on the field,
like thirty six ethnutes ago from let it post a
week AT's Valentine's Me even get it shipped off, bro,
I actually forgot about them hallway sessions when you just
post up in the hallway, niggas have walked by he
just fling the ass. I forgot niggas was doing that, Bro,

(22:29):
I forgot about that. Just posting up just fine, motherfucker's up.
There are specific areas that Polly that like from the
from I'm sure when Snoop Dogg was in high school
through the nineties, when I was in high school, and
I know for a fact through now, it's like you
could look at it and it would look like one
of those mazes where you're tracing a really weird path

(22:50):
for people who were like didn't have time to do
their hair, avoiding certain areas. And that's where that was
that kids childhood. So I don't know what to tell you, man,
that's crazy, all right. I forgot about that. Ship. Um,
let's make fun of someone ourselves. Kendrick Perkins with the
following take on ESPN yesterday. Sometimes I think that the

(23:15):
you know, media is broken, takes are overblown and all
this ship, but sometimes you see stuff and you're like,
what are we fucking doing right now? And Kendrick Perkins
went on ESPN to say Janice is the Drake of
the NBA. What do you mean by that? Did he?
I didn't. I didn't see there was basically basically the

(23:36):
premise that was was that even when Janice has an
off game, it's still a great game. And he was like,
even when Drake gives us a minute, is still pretty good?
Like that was kind of the parallel. He was strong there. Um,
you know, you choose to characterize that as being the drake. Yeah,
I mean, I mean it was that. I got what

(23:57):
he was trying to say, but he didn't quite stick
the land. And I was just kind of like, I
don't know about this one big perk think. I mean,
just reading just coming going off the headline, it seems
like he's saying that, you know, like Joannice isn't as
good as his numbers, say, you know what I mean?
Because argument. I thought it was an argue. I thought

(24:19):
I would hope you wouldn't call that mother. I ain't
nothing pussy about him, but h I thought he was
just saying that, you know, like you know, like his
his like you know how people say Drake isn't like
he's he's not the best rapper every but he has
the best numbers by far, you know what I'm saying.
I thought he was on kind of like a bag
Twitter take you know, That's what That's what kind of
seemed like to me from But so yeah, yeah, it

(24:40):
doesn't he said, doesn't quite stick the landing. But I mean,
I mean, if you want to do the Drake takeoff,
you could probably say that that's Bron. You could say,
like I always said, you know, m J is probably
jay Z right, like, you know, had a had a
run where he was just that guy for about you know,
six years or so. Drake has had a run for
going on damn near fucking fifteen years now where he's

(25:00):
been that guy, you know what I mean. Might not
have ever, you know, been the undisputed rap king that
like jay Z was, but you know he's been at
the top, you know what I mean. Like, so if
you want to do it like a Drake comparison, I
think it's bron. But either way, it's just it's so
clumsy to kind of compare the two though, you know,
So yeah, yeah, I just like because ESPN obviously has
had a number of these over the years, Like, I'll
never forget that, Like who's Who's now? Who's next fucking

(25:25):
sports centership, That's a new ESPN thing. Who's the most
Drake athletes? Who is who is the NBA's pig Sean right,
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I want to talk about the Damiko Ryan's uh just
got hired by the Texans. Very bummed out as a
Niners fan. He was an incredible defensive Coordina are very
happy for him. Um. First of all, because he's a

(27:12):
newly minted black head coach in the NFL. Second of all,
it's with the team that he sued while he was
a player, which is incredibly impressive. But Damiko Ryan's in
his press conference afterwards had like the perfect mirror of
the key and peel uh sketch where he dapped up
every black duty saw and gave a very crisp, firm
handshake to the to all the white people who are

(27:34):
congratulating him, and Tyler reatweeted somebody who says, I don't
I don't have the handle uh with me at the moment.
But he retweeted somebody who said, the nation is slowly
finding out that that that was not a sketch on
key and peel. Yeah, like that's so facts like that.
It was just a perfect video representation of that life philosophy,

(27:55):
shall we say? Yeah, I mean I think the big
thing at hand here is, of course, you know that's
is how we move in like the corporate world, like
as as black people. You know, there's a certain you
know certain more more more love, a little certain more
fizzaz when we greet each other in corporate settings. Yeah,
you know, shake hands or whatever. But um, you know

(28:20):
the thing about the NFL is that you know the NFL,
it it is it is a a a culture where
you know, there are there isn't a singular NFL culture
like there isn't in the NBA, right Like like if
you're the new coach of the Mavericks, you know you're
dapping Kyrie and your DApp and Luca Luca Is. Luca
Is is of the NBA culture, right, Like you see

(28:41):
guys like Tyler Harrow. You know he's of the NBA
culture even though he's white. That's not the case with
the with the NFL bro like that. That fucking locker room,
it's it's black, it's white, it's skilled guys, and it's
oh you know old lineman, you know the offense and defense, yes, right, right, yeah,
it is. It is a fragmented culture where know, I mean,
the jokes are there, but you know, shouts on Demiko

(29:03):
Ryan for knowing how to maneuver through the multiple cultures
that are in the NFL locker room putting on display
right there. So that's a good point. What's interesting is
I didn't even really until that that uh that sketch.
I didn't realize that I did it. It was almost
so natural, you know what I mean? Where then I
was like damn like that. So like we I mean,
we talked about how we moved, if we talk about

(29:25):
coach switching, but I didn't you know, you wouldn't. I
almost wouldn't even realize that I did it in the
in the moment, you know what I'm saying. It just
was such a so natural. But it's like about walking
too much trip like one of those right think about
my left foot. It was like it's like breathing. It's
like breathing dog. You're not thinking about how many breasts
you know, when you're taking a breath. It just happens,

(29:45):
you feel me. But uh but yeah, like Tyler was saying,
like I remember when like Zoombak came in we was
interviewing them at my gig or whatever, and Za came
in with Loan with the with the handshake, and remember
Zoo being like we talked abou that after like he
was like all right, like what the you know? Like, bro,
he ain't even from the stage d He was like
what the funk going on? Like, bro, we ain't you

(30:06):
know what I'm saying me and Decide came in with
you know what I'm saying, So like yeah, like it's
it's that that singular culture in the NBA is is
is very I've never thought of the NFL like that,
but it makes a ton of sense, Like the sense
fucking Chris STAPs. Porzingi said he learned English by listening
to the g Unit mixtapes. Bro, Like like, did you

(30:26):
hear super Box talk? Bro? I'm like, that's not the talk.
Closer to me, I was like, damn, we saw we
saw Luca when he said God Dawn, he said like
he was from South Carolina. He said that he was
from Houston. For word, tell Texas or some ship, you
know what I mean. That was a nigger that came
out ill. That was the ancestors that said God damn.

(30:47):
When Lucas said that ship you built, I'm saying, so dog,
it's it's so it's so different that But I've never
really thought about that with NFL, so I think it's
like a to me, I see a black league, you
know what I mean. But it is still very sad
a minute, it makes sense. I think that's one of
the reasons NFL guys often, um, including black players, have
that sort of like very like uh almost like we

(31:12):
don't see race type. Like you hear that a lot
from NFL guys, right, like a harmony like everyone could
put aside their difference, like because that really is the
experience of an NFL locker room is you have that
are like really country fucking white guys, and then you
have black dudes from Miami, a long beach and you know,
wherever the funk else. It is like a because there's
so many people to write. There's like sixty players on

(31:33):
a roster. It is just like necessarily a very different
culture than a basketball team. That's like we got one
superstar and we got two good role players, so we
got and other guys, you know, and then big gas
cuntry bump is probably techt the your QB, so thank god.
And the racism sandwiches, they was eaten because you know

(31:56):
what I mean, they all when that all of you
when you when you run through them. You know what
I'm saying, it's bro It's it's the NFL locker room
is like black Oslam. The city is white GOSLM. The
country Like you look at the parking lot, it's gonna
be f one is going to be Lamborghini's. There is
no singular NFL culture. But if you was a basketball player,
if you wanted to get some real hoops and you

(32:16):
was playing with Nickas, you know what I'm saying that, Hey,
you culture, you know what I'm saying it's you feel
me so yeah, well, like similar a little bit. There's
an elite high school football program in southern California that
I will not name because I know this information out
the record, but they have like you know, they play
music at practice, right, so obviously it's like it's mostly rap,
but then on Wednesdays they have what they call white

(32:37):
Boy Wednesdays, and it was like they let them like
they play a C D C here country. That's when
the NFL that graduates up to the NFL. Like you said,
definitely not a motto culture. Um we should before we
move off sports. I did want to mention John John
checked the car facts on fucking Patrick Mahomes and determined
that based on how he plays basketball, he is his

(33:00):
father's son. Is that right? I mean, I mean the
high places football, you know, that's that's something that's some
season on that motherfucker. But I mean I saw crossing
motherfuck up getting the lane hit him with a real
quick spin with the butter of I'm like, that's a
nigga hoop, and that's it. That's a dad, that's your son,
a mixed kid with a whole last nigger as a daddy,
you know what I'm saying. So we would he who

(33:24):
like like his dad is his dad. You know, if
he was a basketball player, we would have been on.
We wouldn't been surprised. And old boy pulled up talking
about the Philly you know, the Philly blood. You know
what I'm saying, the brow All right, I want to

(33:44):
talk about what the Tyler has had. Some Republican roundball
and some GOP Gridiron. I gotta get some tea party.
Twitter takes off real quick, and I'm, for the first
time of my life, defend Elon Musk because it came
out recently that apparently he he was looking at his
metrics and didn't like that the president Super Bowl tweet

(34:06):
got more views than his Super Bowl tweet, so he
called an emergency Twitter meeting and said, y'all better fix
his algorithm and make sure everyone sees big Muskies tweets
before they see anybody else's tweets. He didn't really say.
Now people are rightfully pointing out that he's an enormous

(34:29):
dork and loser for doing this, But I do want
to slightly take up for Elon and just say, if
I paid forty four billion dollars for a fucking website.
You had better believe you are gonna see my fucking
tweets on your timeline. I don't give a fuck. Bro
didn't then it he fires someone for pointing out the
obvious truth that like like this motherfucker pulled out timelines

(34:51):
and grassled like your peak. You know, viewers ship was
here when you first took over, and there was entriging
and it kind of has leveled off since. And he
fired that. Motherfucker almost fired him for telling him the
truth about with empirical evidence, with fucking graphs and charts,
and he fired that. Man. Yep, dog, he's a dictator.

(35:13):
If I had that much money to I wouldn't be
on Twitter, like you know what I'm saying. And also
the algorithm is bad. It is bad. I don't see
my favorite tweeters anymore. Are you on? Are you on
the following tab? Because I don't know tab? Look at

(35:34):
the tab at the top. I got to switch over
every time you lock. Yeah, okay, he says following Okay, okay, yeah, okay, okay.
I was having to I was having to search your guys.
This timeline is like Tyler disappeared and y'all know I retweet.
There might not be another living human that's retweeted Tyler
more than me. That algorithm knows that I like Tyler's tweets,

(35:56):
And it was like, nope, you just slide him off
the time Rusty Man before you wasn't unnecessary though, if
the you know, that's so unnecessary, because I I part
of like why I don't get on as much, like
you know, I would at least get on and look
if I even I didn't tweet. But because I'm so ba,
I'm not even seeing my favorite tweets anymore. You know
what I'm saying. I gotta so I'll try to fall

(36:18):
him with ship, you know what I mean? Um? All right?
Uh so it has turned out that the potential UFOs
were all balloons. It sounds like, um, balloons? Where what reper?
What do you? That was the end of Chris Bridges
as we knew. We thought it was aliens, but it

(36:42):
was balloons. Oh ship? All right, Well that's funnier than
what I had. But uh, but I I did. While
I wanted to say, was this. For a brief period

(37:03):
of time, A couple of pro athletes that I follow
were among the people trying to get the word out
there that the aliens had already landed and we're already
walking among us like a scroll invasion or something. But
we obviously know that's not the case anymore. However, I
did just want to say I was reflecting on y'all
are familiar with the War of the World's hoax. Yeah,

(37:25):
no radio in Halloween. So yeah, back in the days,
I believe it was Orson Welles did a radio show
and it was just like a prescripted play John about
the aliens had landed and we're taking over major American cities.
People really believed it, and because they like it was
like one of the first time someone had like, you know,

(37:46):
they faked like you would watch a TV show and
they would do like a fake breaking news report or
something like in a TV show. They did that, and
so everyone was just so like trusting obviously of anything that. Yeah,
so everyone really thought for a brief period of time
that you know, the country was being taken over by
aliens that were walking around destroy and it was it
was I think he did like a radio play based

(38:08):
on World the World's by Jules Verne, which was a um,
you know, novella or whatever. So um, it just makes
me wish that we could travel back in time and
just rob everybody. I mean, like just the most good.
Like the entire country was so fucking vulnerable, like if
you could. But I just like thinking it, like if

(38:28):
you could just get in front of a microphone, you
can literally reshape reality and people would just be like
and like everyone is so correctly suspicious of everything now correctly,
but you could literally just go back in time and
be like, uh, there's aliens and the whole country was
like what aliens? It's it's it's sort of inspirations. People

(38:51):
react like anybody and you know like, yeah, I don't
I mean, I don't know. I just panic in the
streets or whatever. But I mean because us, it takes
so I mean, if it's not like Twitter where you
can look at Twitter and see people panicking and then
correct what's going on, how long did it take for
them to say like, Yo, this was not real? Like
how long did it take for them to to to

(39:12):
to let the people know that yo, I think Ryant's
broke out in certain cities and ship then it like
got very real for a second because of that fucking broadcast. Yeah,
So Yeah, it was h It was H. D Well.
It's not if you think if you think the world's
and then motherfucker's gonna eight's gonna smash and grab. Let
me get some new boots. Whatever the salt dried hams

(39:36):
or whatever, the right, right, right right, eating ham in
my new boots. I'm going out in class. But it's
just that's that's wild. That's an interesting response to that.
I was hoping nobody like harm themselves because of that,
you know what I mean, like thinking the world was over.
It was a Halloween episode of the Mercury Theater on

(39:59):
the Air or sin Wells adapted H. G. Wells' novel,
performed at live over the CBS Radio network in night So.
The episode is famous for inciting a panic by convincing
members of the listening audience that a Martian invasion was
actually taking place. Um, yes, so I gotta find this audio.

(40:20):
I gotta find this because it's probably I mean, it's
incredible to hear because it's so there's no way this
is real, you know what I mean? In this time
period he was at the time. Orson Wells was twenty
three at the time Shock the World got called in
front of the FCC had to apologize. Und to apologize

(40:44):
people apologize so funny. I'm sorry, I'm sorry for doing
the hoax about the alien invasion America. Please forgive me
the front page of the New York Times, a one
which at the time probably felt like I don't even
think we could imagine how famous he would have been

(41:04):
to be on a one of the New York Times
radio board on the moon. You know what I'm saying,
Like radio listeners in panic taking war drama as fact.
Many flee homes to escape gas raid from Mars, phone
calls swamp police that this is in New York. Bro, unbelievable,

(41:24):
He's crazy. These were the smart people, These are the
forward thinking folks. All right, um, before we get out
of here. Tyler has inspired me, and I told him
I wasn't gonna tell him how until we got on
the podcast, but it was that he tweeted a picture

(41:46):
his Trusty companion and I think you and I might
be the last two people who are still on the
Trusty click wheel iPod. Yeah. That mother, that motherfucking iPod. Bro.
I'm never and rid of that ship. That's it's it's
like legit, my favorite electronic device I think I've ever
owned in my life, like hands down, like you know,

(42:07):
for for for the music that I have there, for
the memories that I have attached to it. Um, I
fired it up because you know, unfortunately we lost Day
from from day La sol Um on Sunday um so
RP to him um. You know, you see the the
trial called Quest post in my background, like Native Tongues
just means so much to me, means so much too

(42:28):
to the landscape of rap Um for for those are familiar,
Native Tongs was a rap collective of day Las sol
Trial called Quest Jungle Brothers. And basically while they were
so important, especially day All because they were the first
group to come out, you know from from Native Tongues
with with with their debut Three Feet High and Rise
in the nine nine. And what was so important about
them is they Rap was still young, Rapp was still

(42:48):
trying to you know, finding its voice. Rapp is still
kind of lending a voice, you know to to two
young kids you know from from the you know, hood
and Ship and these are some some kids from the
suburbs of Long Island at the time during the rap
gangster boom where n W A was booming where you
know what I mean, Like like Harris One was on

(43:09):
that tough guy ship, Big Daddy Kane was on that
tough guy ship. There was a time where you really
kind of had to have an edge to be, you know,
taken seriously as a rapper. And these were some suburban
kids from Long Island who were just like, bro, everyone
isn't a tough guy, you know what I mean? And
and and and that is so important to how it
kind of helped, you know, rap progress, because that's kind
of the norm now, Like you know, there's plenty of

(43:31):
tough guys. You know, we got the twenty one Savages,
you know, the STGs and such, but they're not at
the forefront as you know, like they were back then.
Like and and the thing is, there's way less there's
way less tough guys than regular dudes, you know what
I mean. So so Ship is kind of representative of
how ship really is, I feel like now and in
the rap game, and and Dylas Soul was just so
intego to that and r I P to to to

(43:51):
Plug to RP to Dave. So yeah, that's when maybe
fire that up. And like I said, it comes through
at times like that when I needed the most, Like
when Prince passed and he wasn't streaming. I have his
whole catalog on my iPod and I ran it that weekend,
you know what I mean. So, so yeah, man, this
lets me know y'all was rich. I couldn't afford that ship.
I had to fake motherfucker lasting like eight months. You're

(44:11):
the Zoo. What do you have? That's Zoom? That see
what that had to Zoom? That ship cost what y'all
had cost, Like to some ship like that. Zoom was
ahead of it's it's time with the whole marketplace subscription
ship where you pay like three dollars a month or
some ship and you could have like you know, unlimited
access to whatever they had on their library. They were
ahead of tail. That was sort of like the first

(44:33):
kind of stream of Surgeon that you had kind of
had to have a device to stream and so kind
of gray area there. Baby Zoo was ahead of their time, bro, John,
you know how I had the iPod? I think I
told you this, But I had financial aid to fully
paid for my college tuition because of my mom's financial situation,
and then I got a full writing scholarship to Long
Beach State, and so what they did was they sent

(44:54):
me the fasts and money is a check. So when
I was in college, I was literally getting a check
for likes this semester cash that was like through school supplies.
So that was when I really learned how to blow money,
Like I had not previously had enough money to blow,
but I would literally like cash to check, take Shara
to a really fancy dinner, filled the gas tank up

(45:16):
by myself. A computer like that. So I got a
laptop that was had an iPod. I didn't make that
ship last but maybe a week out of the old semester,
but I did. But I did get the sixty gig
video iPod. That is one of the things that I purchased,
and it is the only thing that it survived. Actually, Tyler,
to your point, like this only Apple product not built

(45:39):
to blow up after eighteen months, I've had my ship
like fucking years now, I want to say, But Tyler,
if I look at the playlist on here, I have
the playlist I put together for our wedding. I have
the playlist I put together for my dad's memorial service.
I have a fucking anniversary playlis this I put together

(46:01):
for the trip we took after we got Mary, Like, yeah, bro,
this is my whole fucking life on there, and the
ship still works. Yeah, it's it's and and the thing is,
what's what's also super important about my iPod is I've
got so much ship from like the mixtape block era
that you cannot find anywhere, you know what I mean, Like,
I've got fucking currencies. You know, Summer two thousand and

(46:24):
eight run when he gave us like six mixtapes on
there that you can't find streaming anywhere, you know, ship
like that. So, yeah, he's got Wayne on there, those
white mixtapes. Yeah, I got squad mix tapes and ship.
Yeah I got I got the squad mixtapes. I got
the fucking all three droughts. I got got the motherfucking
all the dedications. You know what, man, am I missed
that ship? I had them? Alost actually had actual CDs

(46:45):
bro whendoms just Cabot. That's how long ago the cab
bro A simpler time. All right, that's all the time
we got for Jenkison. Jones will be back on Monday.
Hope everyone enjoys the All Star weekend. Uh fun. Carl
Malone and we'll see you on a couple of days.
Bye bye bye