Today I Interviewed HIGH level Cruiserweight Prospect Viddal Riley! He talked his upcoming fight vs Chev Clarke, Fighting in his hometown stadium in Tottenham, His Thoughts on Eubank Jr vs Benn, and more! #Herd #Herd
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Folks, welcome back to the way concept presented by the Ring.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Today.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
I am with a special guest, my brother, a man
that I have known for a very long time now.
Man that you guys, if you don't know, you're about
to know. He is one of the best cruiserweight boxers
on the planet. He is none other than the realist
in the game, not just in the boxing ring. Outside
of it, he's doing music, he's boxing your head off,
He's on YouTube, he's my man.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Pots and Pans, Vidil Riley. What is going on? The realist?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
You saying what you're saying. It's good to see you, man.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Good to see you brother. How is I was gonna say, yeah,
it's been a while.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Obviously, the reason we had to talk to you because
you've got a fight coming up on April twenty six, But.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
We'll get to that in a second. Let's do some
catching up, man, how you been.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I think the last time you saw me, we didn't
really see me in person, I don't think, but the
last time you've seen me.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Was when I was you know what I'm saying, coming
across the pond and doing my thank d you know.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
No, that was impressive, was impressive.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
We have to be honest with you. You don't have
to just fluff my.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
You know me, Bro, come on, bro, you know me. Man,
if I was, I would be like it was, it
was alright, you could do that. You know what I mean? Well,
I know honestly, for your first fight with limited time
to prepare, and nah, Bro, I had to give you
a flowers. I did give you a flowers my genuine yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah said by the way, you know, I had to
get the shorts.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
You know, I had to get of course, standard standards.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
One fight.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
It's not but it's done now. That's the thing.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Even if you don't fight again, you can say I've
had a fight camp, I've done the ring walk, I've
been out under the lights. Someone was out there to
hurt me, and I came out of victorious. Bro, That's
a priceless experience.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You and Leon said one of the funniest things I
think I heard around the fight, and I watched it
and died laughing. For like, I watched it three straight
times and died laughing. You said, like, okay, way you
came out. He was like, you know, some people when
they fight black people, they get a little scared, and
you say, well, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
It's true.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, obviously we know we know how.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
You get down around there in that in that region
of the world. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I was like, it's not intimidated a tool, Like he's
got a little bit of muscles in front of him
and he's like, yeah, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Like, but you know what that you know how we
are you.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Know how bro I was dying, bro dying? Oh man?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Well yeah, listen, I had my fight. It was uh,
I don't know if I'll ever do it again, but
it was fun. It was definitely something I needed to do.
People were chirping, you know what I'm saying. We had
we had to quiet that down. But the real fight
we're talking about, the thing that we want to get
to today is uh, the reason we're here. Your fight
on April twenty sixth on the undercard of You Banged
(02:57):
Junior Connor ben. I see you're rocking the hoodie right now.
It's in Tottenham before we even get to the matchup.
This moment has to mean everything to you.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Man.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I I know how passionate you are. Even though you
guys are in what fifth fifteenth right now?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Fifteenth yeah, it's kind of it's not Listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
It's been a bad season, Bro, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
But why am I seeing?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Why am I seeing Ariel Hawane squad in third at
Tottenham Forests or no, Nottingham Forest and you guys are
in fifteenth.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
You can play fingers in so many directions.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
High Crystal Palace.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
No, Bro, we're behind a lot of teams. We're only
above five teams.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
You know what I'm saying. It's crazy. They need you
out a good season, man.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I need to bring the winning energy to the stadium
next Saturday.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
It's got to be, but it's got to be.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
It's got to be a dream, though, man, right to
to fight in that stadium. You've been a fan for forever.
Talk to me about what that means.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
I think, Bro, it's like something that I always had
on the bucket list, something that I always you know what, man,
it'll be nice one day to fight and our home stadium. Like,
despite the team's lack of success recently, it's one of
the best stadiums Bro, that you can go to. You
know what I mean that they're hosting concerts NFL. Oh yeah, yeah,
you know what I'm saying, it's a it's an attraction,
(04:15):
you know, to fight at the stadium. So for me,
I'm like, I want to take this box off. I
thought it would happen.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Later down the line.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
I thought it would be, you know, when we're at
that world titled stage and stuff like that. I didn't
ever envision having the possibility to be on the undercard
so soon, like for the British title at Tottenham Stadium
on a historic event, like the way it will piece together. Man,
it's just I say, it's just destiny, man, Like you
just keep we stay working. Chose the path that I
(04:44):
said I'm going to choose. I told everyone like no
matter how connected I am to crossover and socials and
stuff like that, like, I know the direction I want to.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Go in my career.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
So then when these sort of opportunities pop up, it's
just like, yeah, like you know, you chose the right thing.
Life has shown you that you chose the right thing.
So now it's just time for me to seize the moment,
and I think I'll take it in more once it's done.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I'm I know where the fight is.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Like I'm obviously excited to fight in my hometown but
I'm not trying to add like too many elements onto
it other than.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
The fact that I need to defeat SHEV on that day.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
So when I watch it back and you know, a
couple of weeks past, I'll be like, we did that,
but we did that. That was a ting him, like
you know, home picked up the bridge title. But right now,
I'm just like, let's just let's just get him that,
let's just suit him out.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Let's just I can tell you're locked into because you know,
there is something to be said for the pressure of
fighting in that stadium as well, like you said, in
your hometown, and sometimes it's more about you know, the
job at hand. And then, like you said, going back
in retrospect and look, and I hope you do get
to you know when that I'm sure you got something
playing for walkout.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
We know, we know. You know what I'm saying, when
you get your walkoutsing on. I don't know if it's
new music. I don't know if it's new fit. I
don't know. I ain't gonna spoil nothing.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
It's gonna it's gonna it's gonna be different, it's gonna
be different.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
But I do hope just because I you know, I'm
so close to you. I hope that you get to
take in that moment because you deserve it. Man, that
that that stuff you can't you can't ever recreate. Like
you said, it's it's it's destiny.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
You know, it's destiny, bro, It's destiny. Like you can't
make it up that this fight could be anywhere.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
You know what I'm saying, This fight could be anywhere.
You know, it could be on any card.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
For it to be on a card with having this
much history running through it, even down to the fact
that JJ is one of the main parts of the promo.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
You know, it's.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Crazy, how bad is so is he gonna be at
the stadium.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
He's gonna be there. He's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
There because I heard he said he would never step
foot in that place.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
There's there's been a lot of a lot of Arsenal
fans around me that said they would never do somethain things,
and they're gonna have to do it because.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
This is your ultimate play and you you you've succeeded.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
This is the plan, This is the only plan.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Everyone has to have a piece of Tottingham involved because
this is what the opportunity is cooling for But you know,
just even things like that that I didn't ask JJ
to help me promote.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I didn't like you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
It just so happens that the biggest part of my
career in my hometown, with the guy that you know
rose me to fame in the world, is involved in
the promo for the event.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
And it's just stuff that you can't really write it.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It just came together, you know.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Okay, Well, this is where it was supposed to be. This,
this is literally my moment. I just I've put the
work in and I just need to take the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
You know, absolutely have put the work in.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Man, how has been you know, I know everybody asked
the question about camp and stuff, But how's it been?
I know you and and your pops have been just
grinding right now. Uh, we kind of brushed on it.
You've been off socials. I haven't seen you on Twitter,
I haven't seen you putting new videos on YouTube. You've
been locked in. And this is by the way, you
know you're always lockdam but this is this one's felt different.
(08:03):
This one's felt like you've gone to another level here.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah, this this this CAMPU has just been like literally,
you just preserve your energy, bro.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Like there's been there's.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
A lot of stuff that's happened, you know, personally as
well and just uh just things that I've had to
deal with, you know, part of life and part of
part of maturing and part of just things happening.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Man. So I just said, you know what I need
to do.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I need to focus on this fight, put all my
energy into this fight, don't spread myself too thin, and
once the once this fight is complete and successful, then
we can, you know, open up the doors to all
the other things that I enjoy doing and what the
people were used to seeing me do. But I just
felt like if I was trying to balance socials, dealing
(08:54):
with life itself, training, You're just going to spread yourself
too thin.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Man. So I you need to.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Just know when there's a time to just say, you know,
I'm just out for no I mean, just give the
people a chance to miss you as well. You know
sometimes that's.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
One hundred percent. I'm so glad you said that. I'm
I'm you.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Know, I'm you know, I'm a big pro wrestling guy.
And uh, actually I'm going to WrestleMania this week.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
So I'm going up there. Yeah, man Vegas, come on.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
But one of the great wrestling managers of all time,
Jim Cornett, says, how can they miss you if you
never go away?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Right, it's a big it's a big thing.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
And when you come out and you put on this
performance you're looking to put on on Saturday. Uh, I
think that will give that that resurgence right back to
the channel like it always doesn't trust me, you know again,
I've had one little measly fight. But it was tough,
you know, even for me, a guy that does this
for a living, to try to keep the YouTube and everything.
(09:47):
There were days where I was I don't even want
to see a camera, dude, I get this stuff out
of my face. I just want to go do what
I have to do, go eat and go to sleep
like that's on.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
So I got a little little bitty taste of it, dude.
So that's what you're see, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
That's that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Once you've done it, you can you can you know,
relate to the emotion, especially having having the socials and
running your life off the socials. You know, when you
was in camp and when you was preparing, there was
these moments where you're like I'm good.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I don't need YouTube.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Yeah, Like, there's so much there's so much stuff that's
been happening as well to be able to talk about,
and you know, there's been some hot topics and me
and Lil have been.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Like, yo, like.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Ready to I know, I know, but.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
It's gonna make that It's gonna make the return.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
So much sweeter because you're going to just have the
opportunity to just recap them so much and just give
the people what we what we get for sure.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Bro, Well, let's talk about the fight, because I think
it's a clear statement, at least to me, that this
will be the big, big step up here, at least
as far as the numbers are concerned. You're talking about
Chef Clark, who the first time I had heard about
Chef Clark was out of the Olympics the round of sixteen.
Big time accomplishment obviously, and then the famous Eddie Hearn
(11:07):
you know proposition in the crossover seat he had, you know,
pointed him and said, Jake go and fight. I want
to know guy trying to pull the rug on Jake.
But let's talk about his actual numbers. He is a
top fifteenth ranked cruiserweight in three divisions or three commissions,
and you haven't fought that level of rising prospect yet
(11:28):
he's a British champion. Talk to me about why this
was the fight, because you know, we'd had some fights
set up with Isaac Chamberlain and potentially look in some
other ways.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Why was Chev the fight?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
I was just told that's what was gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
You just said, yeah, this is what's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
I just the fight with Isaac phill through and then
I was just told, yeah, you're going to be fighting
Chev for the British title. Like it wasn't like I
wasn't sent an opponent list or like anything like that.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
It was just like, oh, yeah, by the.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Way, these ring cards, these these real season cards, the
matchmaking is a one. So when they dropped the name,
you're ready to go.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
You dropped the name, And I'm thinking, with such a
big opportunity, the central opportunity with the Isaac falling through,
it was like to have this as the next opportunity,
like how can I how can I not take it?
Like this is a better opportunity than it than fighting Isaac.
So for that to fall through again. Man, life has
its way of doing what it does, and you know,
(12:33):
if you've got faith and you're working, it will.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Work out in your favor.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
So that was just like, okay, so we're going to
defend the English. Now we're getting opportunity to fight for
the Britdige title in tomm Stadium and undercard of You Bang.
And then I'm like, okay, Isaac, were safe, bro, I'll
see it. I guess we don't have to talk anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
This is did you just done?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
It's it's I do want to talk about did you did?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Like?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
How frustrating was it to not be able to get
your hands on him because that seemed like the build
was something we hadn't seen in your career yet and
that you both were, you know, at one point talking
and then it seemed like he stopped and you you
were like, where'd you go?
Speaker 4 (13:16):
It was it was frustrating in the initial because I think,
what did he pull out? Like two weeks before the fight,
maybe like two three weeks before the fight.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So we're hounded him by the way. I was like, man,
is really good?
Speaker 4 (13:27):
No, No, he had to he had to. He had
to have one week I said to myself. I'm gonna
give him a designated seven days of just roasting, because
you can't just say, oh, I pulled out, show no proof,
vanish off the face of the earth, and then I'm
supposed to let you vanish, like you have to feel
some sort of shame for ruining what was going to
(13:50):
be a good event.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yeah, you know what I mean. And then after those
seven days, I was like, cool, let's let's move on now.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
And you can't be stuck up on right one. But
you know, it was disappointing. You put a lot of
work in, you sacrifice, you know. I had the fight
in December just to shake off some quick quick rush
to be back ready again for February first. And I
had a feeling, man, I had a feeling. I had
(14:18):
a feeling that the fight was going to be pushed
back or something, but I didn't invest in it. And
then when it happened, I was like I knew it,
Like I felt that I felt that the fight wasn't
going to happen on February first. I just had this feeling.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Well, now we're here, Chef Clark, obviously, you know everybody
in this scene. I think Daniel du Once said you
were the best amateur boxer he'd ever seen. So everybody
knows you, you know, everybody. Man, what what does this
fight look like to you? And you know, without giving
up too much, what do you see in chef yah?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
No, you see, chev is a very accomplished fight on.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Amateur. I'm professional. As you said, you named his positions
in the governing body. He's British champion and foot for
the European title. He did come up, sure, but he's
got good names on his record, you know. And I
feel like he's just one of those guys that's gonna
bring the best of me, Like I have to bring
my best in order to defeat him.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
That this is not an easy opponent. This is not
a guy that is like cool, yeah, like whatever.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
I have to have given him the respect he deserves
in my preparation, you know, my sacrifice and that we said,
taking breaks from the socials and stuff, because I understand
the occasion, I will, I will beat.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Him because I just it's just that's what I do,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Honestly a lot of people are gonna look at this
fight and see his name next years in the billing
and think I mean, I don't know what the odds
stand at right now, but I would assume there's going
to be a lot of people thinking he's the favor here.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Yeah, and that's great, you know what I mean, Like,
this is what we're here for, right, I'm not I
really does that.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
It has to feel good though, right. You're usually these
fights like oh here, you know, was about to smoke this?
What about for this one?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
It's it's a different storyline for you.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
You know, I'm happy.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
I'm happy when the public are not certain on if
I can win, because that's what creates excitement. Bro, That's
what interest is about, you know what I mean. Like,
I've had that stage of my career where everyone's expected
me to look spectacular, knowing that the gun on the
other side of the ring isn't as good as me,
and I'm supposed to just build myself up, you know,
I've had that face and now I'm enter in the
(16:31):
phase where people see the.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Other gun thinking I don't know if the dog.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
I don't know, So I'm like this is good. I
like it, Like I'm here for challenge. You know, a
lot of fighters turn down challenges, bro, you know, not
everyone's here to be tested not everyone's here to test
the boundaries. But for me, I'm like cool, I understand
there's a journey. I understand there's a process. So I'm
(16:59):
not going to throw myself into any challenge just because
I want to seem like see.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I don't say no ever. But at the same time, when.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
It makes sense and it's someone that you know, you've
you've prepped for, he's been on your radar and you
always knew this could be a potential showdown when the
day comes, I'm ready, man, I'm ready for it.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I can see, man, I can see you're chomping at
the bit. And by the way, you know, for all
to talk about challenges and whatnot, you're fighting at British level,
I would say, relatively quickly. You know, in your career
there's been greats like Ricky had and that didn't step
up to that level till way later. And there's others
in the same boat, not just in the UK, but
just across their career, stepping up way later in their career.
(17:41):
I've always thought your trajectory, even chev stepping up as
quickly as you have, has built you, guys into the matchup.
We're going to see two great fighters going out. Honestly,
I'm looking at the card and I look at show
stealing fight there early that people may not as we
go into this car realize, but coming out of it,
sure we'll talk about the main event. Sure, I'm sure
(18:03):
we'll talk about the Yard and Arthur fight. But I
think one of those big topics, you know what is
it talkSPORT over there. Talk Sport's gonna be on there, man,
and they're gonna be chatted about this one.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Now for sure, this is this is literally number one,
number two.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
When it got announced, I went, oh, wow, like that.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I've seen, you know, the rest of cards, great, but
I looked at that one. And maybe it's because you know,
I'm I'm you know, your boy and stuff, but I
was like, man, that right there is one to keep
an eye on.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Ten rounds. Yeah, we're going ten twelve. Okay, they've got
you to see box right. You know what I'm saying,
box right, you step up the game up.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Okay, twelve rounds.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Twelve rounds for his thirteenth fight. Now, chev you know
it's really for him time, thirty four years old, it's
it's not really any more time to waste. Does that
when you're when you're fighting a guy like that and
you already said you have to beat him into submission, right.
You saw him get off the canvas and his last
fight come back and really trying to make that push
(18:57):
didn't end up, you know, getting the nod. But he's
a guy who're gonna have to nail to the ground
or you know outbox for twelve. Does his age, in
the fact that it's now really kind of never at
that age, really factoring as well.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, I think, bro, it's just nature in it. It's nature.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
It's not my it's not my rules, it's just last rules.
No one's really getting stronger or physically better at thirty
four years old. You do get small, you know, you
get wiser, which is like the trade off for losing
your physical attributes. But he's he's not smarter than me,
(19:42):
and physically at twenty seven, I'm only entering my prime. Bro,
you know I'm only entering my prime. I've had I've
had a time with Sky when I was twenty four.
I've seen my body change, I've seen my you know,
my personality change. I've seen I've entering that phase. You
I mean, I feel like shev did leave the stage
(20:03):
that I'm at now. He left that in the amateurs.
So everything that he's achieving now is because he's extremely dedicated.
He's extremely stubborn. He got love for the game, which
obviously prolonged how long you can perform at a high level.
But you can't beat in nature. You can't beat in nature.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
And it's my.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Job to show next Saturday. That's my wave. Now, it's
my time. And I hope that you know the fact
is a good challenge on route to.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Prove in that. And if it's not, not take it anyway.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, the way you say that, you know you you
look at this, it seems like you have an idea
how this thing is going to go in your head.
What do you see happening?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
You see him stopping You think you stop him.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I believe I can. I believe I can stop him.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Because that was a little cheeky at the end there.
I hope he brings a challenge, you.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Know, no, no, no, no, I do I do, but
I do believe I can stop him. He might feel
the same about me. He's shown more vulnerability than I'm
shown so far. He's for higher level people, so you
can maybe cancel it out with that, But at the
same time, he shows vulnerability at early stages in his
(21:18):
career as well, when the level wasn't higher than.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
The level that I was competing at.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
So I think, yeah, I can stop him if the
opportunity presents itself, And what history has shown, if I
get someone going, I normally do finish them. So if
that presents itself an next Saturday, then I don't see
why it will be any different. But yeah, this is
this is going to be This is going to be
a good coming out party. Man, this is going to
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be a good time to announce myself on a world
scene as a fighter.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
You know, We've been announced on the.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
World scene through the socials and through other things that
I've done.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
But as a fighter, I think, yeah, you know what.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
I'm saying, got the bangers, don't play, don't play.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah, it's true, it's true. It's true.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
But as a as a you know, as a fighter,
I feel like this is the one now where there's
a lot of eyes on it. It's a big event.
It's it's bigger than boxing. Everyone's gonna want to know
what's happening on that day. So to be a part
of it, I'm just gonna put a performance on that
puts myself out there and represents me, my team, my
brand in the best way possible, so we can continue
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to fly upwards.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Man, speaking of flying upward, you know, I know you're
focused on chev but you know, on this very card
is a is a familiar face. A guy you facing
the amateur's a guy that just now held a belt
for a bit, Chris BILLM Smith. When you get when
you get the job done, after your fight, are you gonna,
you know, hit the showers, come back out and maybe
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take a peek at that fight.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
I'm going to try and have a look at whatever
fights I can, man, just because it's a big card
and there's every fight that's.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
On the undercard could be a main event on another day. True,
So I will try. I don't know the running order.
I'm not sure if I'm the first fight on. I'm
not sure if Chris is first, right, but I'll be
keeping an eye on it. I'll be keeping eye.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Is he a guy you look at is potentially you know, Okay,
I've get this fight, and how do I make my way?
There's a ton of people in the rankings that you know,
how it sorts itself out is how it sorts itself out.
But you have experience in the ring with him, you
know now he's he's gotten up there and grabbed a belt.
Is that when one that you look at in the future.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Potentially it could.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Be, But I believe me and Chris would only meet
at the highest level. You know, Chris is cool man
that me and him can chop it up and talk
when we're at events and stuff, and I know that
his aspirations is only to compete at the highest level.
I can't see him coming back down to rebuild his career.
He's he's been a world champion. Of course, he's defended
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his world title. He wants to literally have fights that
get him back into more world title fights. So if
me and Chris was to cross paths, it would have
to be at the level that he has said, like,
this is where I'm trying to be or not trying
to come to the giop. Yeah, I'm trying to the
young guys that's coming up, people that behind me.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
You know, I will say, you know, I had Drew
Jordian last week and he says, if the fight happens tomorrow,
you beat him.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Those are his Chris with Chris, Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Those are his words, and I was saying, I'm just
I'm just putting it out there. Potentially, I don't.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Know in the future, you know what brands like. You know,
he can't.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I'm just telling you what he said. That's all. That's all.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
That's cool, that's cool. I'm just luck.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I'm just focusing a humble guy, man, I know you're
focused on the fight ahead. We'll talk to me though
about the about the main event, because you know it's
a stacked card, but obviously the main event is you
talked about it. It's history for British boxing. Maybe not
in the way that a lot of people would think
of history, you know, world titles and undisputed and unified.
But the namesake Chris, you Bank Connor, it just meanss more, right,
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it just means more.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
It's something again that you can't It's hard to recreate.
To be able to have two legendary fathers who had
a rivalry, to then have two sons that compete and
then can meet is not going to happen often, do
you know what I mean? Like it's it's not it's
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just like this is nostalgia. This is not about who's
the best in the world, who's going to be the
panther pound, who's going to be the ring magazine? Like,
this is not that part of history. This is just
a matter of we could make it happen. The people
who want to see it, they actually do dislike each
other as well, so it's a grudge match.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
It's so insane to watch them interact and recall the
fathers the way they interacted, and it's almost identical, not
even without like it's not even trying to be, but
it's just their personalities. You can see both their fathers
in it. You can see the fiery nature of Nigel
and Connor.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
You can see the you know, let's have some parliamentary procedures.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
You can see that in you banked Junior, and it's
just he does a little more needling than Senior does.
But it's so fun to see and I'm, you know,
looking on it from the outside end.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I love it. I know you all have to when
that fight does.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Get in the ring, because we're seeing all the stuff
outside of the ring, the eggs, the you know, the
name calling, the Nigel doing freaking undertaker with the choke.
I was like, oh my god, if my jokes left him,
but hopefully, hopefully we get in the ring, no no
issues beforehand. How do you see the fight because there's
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a lot of people going either way with it, you know,
talking about the speed, the punch power, the youth of
Connor Bin but he is coming up and wait and
then you talk about the experience, the skill, the the
levels that you bang juniors fought at.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
But maybe he's a little older. In the two what
do you think.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I slightly that slightly lead with Chris to win, not
that much, but I do think I have to leave
with Chris a bit just because of the people he's
faced and Connor. One of the main things is Connor
hasn't shown the power at the higher weight classes, So
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when he's fought at one fifty four, he wasn't He's
throwing the punches with the same intentions and the same
velocity and you know, the ferociousness that we know he does.
But the guys were kind of looking at him like cool, bro,
that's nice. You know I can take that. So no,
and I think it's it's we haven't seen that firepower
(27:47):
from him in the higher weights, and that was a
lower weight than what they are fighting. At So if
the firepower wasn't displayed at one fifty four, what will
it magically repair at one sixty?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Potential eggs for breakfast can make a difference.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
You said that, you said just saying you get it good,
you get a good breakfast, then it helps your fight,
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
So that's why I'm kind of like Chris has been
hit by the bigger guy is naturally his whole career,
you know, against Liam Smith the first time round, we
did think, wow, Chris's punch resistance may be gone. But again,
Liam Smith is a is a bigger person than kind
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of been always competed in a.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Higher weight class. So like, yeah, I'm gonna site with Chris.
I always I have it like fifty five.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I'm telling you, man, it does feel like one of those.
And that's why I love the fight. I've been trying
to tell people, you know, granted, I'm very you know,
young and and brand new to a lot of the
pro boxing scene and really trying to establish myself. But
one of the things is frustrated me to no end
coming into this game is seeing just the importance just
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on title fight that we can't have a big fight,
a big fight unless there's a belt on the line,
And I'm like, why there's so many big fights that
can headline without a belt And this is proving it.
Sold out Tottenham, people are just buzzing about this fight
and we couldn't care what weight it's that, what titles
on the line, it's just those two names and we
want to see it type of thing, and I really
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hope that that's the big thing.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
The main thing is if everyone wants to see people
fight you don't like each other, you know, like nothing
can be that feeling. I don't like you, I know
that you don't like me. That's fight fact, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
The oldest, the oldest like thing combat sports.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
It's like we want to see two people beat each
other up that don't like each other.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
You know, and that always adds that extra fire to it.
Like for me, I don't dislike shit for example, you
know what I mean, We're just both competitors and we
like to challenge ourselves and I'm going.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
To try and finish you and he's going to try
to finish me, and that I like that. That works,
But then there's times when it's like I don't like
this guy.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
So we need what you're saying is we need to
put like fifteen pounds on indrit virgo and then we'll see.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
You know, hey, that's a difference. There's a difference. You see,
that's a that's a real that's a real difference. But
one thing I would say in Connor's favor, because I
did speak a lot about Chris, but yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
You can't defeat you can't that desire man, that desire
and that kind that he fights angry like some people
can't fight well angry, but he fights well fueled angry
and he's not going to be any more angry or
fueled for any other fight than this fact. So that
is powerful. That's a real powerful energy that if he
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can harness it. That's why I think the fight's close,
because it's a lot of emotion, and he's an emotional guy,
and he can use that emotion to be dangerous.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
So and also he feels he feels like it's it's
you know, his destiny, his dad in his corner. And
I kind of wanted to ask you about that. Both
these guys relationships with their fathers obviously you know, put
out in the public pretty pretty uh recently, and obviously
even for for you Bank Junior for a long time. Now,
what would you make because we know that Connor and
Nigel are like inseparable at the hip, Idol's gonna be
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in his corner, He's gonna be there with him. But
then on the other side and you kind of have
some experience with your dad being in your corner. But
you Bank Junior, his dad is telling him, essentially, don't
take the fight. You're gonna get knocked out. And we
don't know if he's going to be there. Their relationships
super turbulent.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
What do you what do you make of that?
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Man?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I think Chris you Senior is a very wise man.
I think he's he stands on business, he stands in
his opinion. He's not here to fit into what might
you know, affect the event or anything. He's just like,
this is what I feel is my son, That's what
I feel.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
So it is similar.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
You know my dad is similar in that way with
It's like, I don't care everyone, what's the same. I'm
telling you it's my son. This is how I feel
about it, and that's it.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
And you have to respect that.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
You have to respect that you don't know and obviously
the son is not always going to agree with the father,
you know. You, I know you have a great relationship
with your father as well, and I'm always going to
see eye to eye.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
He's gonna have a strong opinion, you.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Know what I mean, and then you're going to be
like nah, then man, and he's gonna like, well, I
don't care.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
That's why I think.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
And it just so happens that in this situation, it's
such a big scale and it's so public because of
who they are. But I don't think it's anything abnormal
between having father and sons who both share strong personalities,
you know what I mean. Christina probably looks at himself
and sees a lot of junior in him and vice versa.
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You know, So sometimes that doesn't always mold. Sometimes that
can have a little bit of a clash. On the
other side, Connor and Nigel seem to click and Joe
extremely well, but come today, it's about the suns.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Don't matter about none of that.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
That's true, man, you know, not about any of that.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Nigel get in and take around for him, you know,
let him recovery.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
You know, Nigel would to Nigel jump in there tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
But it's not about that man, same way as much
as you know, as much as my my dad has
alder passion for me, and.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Let there get in there. Now, come on, now, don't
let there you know, I mean.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
I know, I know you would get in there and
throw some pieces, but he just gotta let me do it.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I've seen him popping them jabs on true Jordan. Uh,
that's it's gonna be historical. It man, I'm super proud
of you. I know you're gonna kill it out there,
and obviously that main event is going to be insane.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
But let's really quickly before I let you get out
of here, let's move on to literally the week.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
After, because yeah, the ring and and everything that Turkey
Yella Shake is doing for boxing, he's putting on some
crazy events. Yes, we're starting in Totten, I'm in front
of eighty ninety thousand, whatever's going to be in their
seventy eighty thousand. Then next week we're going to Times Square.
I don't even know how this is humanly possible to do.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
We're gonna stage of boxing in the middle of Time Square.
Have you ever seen anything like this?
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Never, bro I don't think anyone has. I don't think
we were supposed to. You know, it's just like and
it's not. It's a VIP only event. Yeah, you buy tickets.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Nah, bro, I mean listen, you got it. Well, I
was gonna say I got it on good authority. You
know what I'm saying. We might have to cruise to
New York, Bro, I might. I might as well make
it nounce, So now we might as well tell people.
You know what I'm saying. I'll be in London too.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
So okay, I'll be there.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I'll be there.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Come and see your boy after the scene.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Yeah, really come on the scene.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
But yeah, apparently I don't know how it's gonna work.
I don't even know what. Like, there's so much that
I just don't know yet. But yeah, it's a VIP event.
I'm pretty sure there's a only like one hundred to
three hundred seats available and they're only four specific people. Uh,
you know, you just think about it in your head
in Times.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Square with the digital billboards.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
And the lights and everything. It's gonna be an insane look.
It's gonna look like a video game. It's gonna look
like Fatal Fury come to life.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
And I guess that's what they're going for Yeah, yeah,
I guess that's what they're going.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
By the way, did they tell you you're gonna get
your character in the game or what are we doing?
Speaker 3 (35:24):
This is what I'm saying. I need a copy of
the game first.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
What we're doing, bro, I.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Need to get a copy at least two.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Man's get speed in the game. We can't give it out, Riley.
What are we doing?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Man, come on, man, I know that would be good.
But I'm sure you know, I'm sure we then things
will work itself out. Man.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
But to have the event in Times Square stupid crazy. Yeah,
I'm very very interested to see what it looks like
because I'm in Times Square. Yeah, and like, yeah, it's
one of those places in it, like when you're standing
in the middle of Times Square you're like, well, I'm.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
In Times Square, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
So to see that transition into somehow being a fight
venue and everyone that lives in the city being annoyed
that the transport and.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
That's part of it no one's talking about. And I'm
glad you brought it up.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
My girlfriend is from New York and I told you
when she when I you know, when it came about
she goes, Oh, that's gonna be a nightmare.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
I was like, what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah, it goes everybody's gonna get so upset because they
can't get on the train, they can't get on the subway.
Like I was like, I forget all that. She's like,
I'm telling you, I don't know how they're gonna do it.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
No, it's gonna be It's gonna be crazy. But you
know what they say in life, that's a U program.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah, bro, you gotta have to hold out for a night.
We got stuff to do, we got a history to make.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
This is it, this is it?
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Come on, well quickly, let's give a little rapid fire
on the fights. Which one are you more looking forward to?
You got Ryan or Sea Roly Romero in the main event,
Devin Hane, Jose Ramirez and the comin and well I
don't know where they're gonna know, but tia Fimo Lopez
and Arnold Barbosa also on the car for the WBO title.
So which one do you stands out the most?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Like only a three fight cardna.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
I think, And you know what I'm saying, Yeah, there's
the main event for a reason.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
It's that I think it's the right main event, the personalities,
the drama, the whole backstory of what Iran's had to
go through to get himself back to this point. It's
gonna be interesting to see those two personalities clash man, Yeah,
because they're very outspoken, They've got a.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Lot to say.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
It's going to be exciting to see the return of
Devin as well, because that that that defeat was a
lot and I just hope that he can come back
and show the quality of that he's shown before.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
And of course t O is t O man.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
So to we don't know what we're gonna get.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I mean, by the.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Way, Arnold Barbosa Junior, no walk in the park, not
a guy that that's the toughest fight on the card,
and Teo's taking it. And I would argue, out of
the three of them, Ta Femo, you know, Devin Haney's
resume is insane. Femo's resumes also insane. And I think
pound for pound, skill for skill, boxing IQ for boxing
a qu he might be the best of the three
of them, not even might be, he probably is.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Yeah, I think yeah, out of out of the three,
I would rank TiO the highest, the best.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
He's my most my most favorite to watch.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yeah, he does it all, does it all.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
He hasn't got the speed and the left hook of Ryan.
That left hook is crazy and that's too.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Man for for from being a specialist at that high
level like Ryan is, I've never.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Seen anything like it.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
I've been trying the last couple of months to track
down everybody from ten Goose to you know, uh, anybody
have to speak to to be like, what what is it?
And they're like, we don't know, man, It's just he's.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Been he had that, he's had that in his look.
No coach that can teach him that.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
At this point, I'm in there in the bag. I'm like,
show me, show me. They're like, we can't.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
That's him. But they specialize. Between t O, Devin and Ryan,
they all specialize in different areas, you know what I mean.
Over you could say t O. But the job the
IQ of Devin, by the way, you know, you can't
you can't take that away from it. The speed, the explosiveness,
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the left hook called Ryan, and of course To has
shown us a bit of everything. To be fair, he's
shown us a bit of everything. So that's a very
good card. Only three fights, but that would be good
for the people in the city so they can get
the Times Square.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
But I can't wait for that one.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
And then before we get you out of here, I
didn't know if if you saw, just to wrap up
some things because you've been off social yesterday, a massive
name is announced a comeback fight.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Did you see.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
No, it's a name that, uh.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
You know, is well regarded in the pro scene and
one that you know, I think he was actually ranked
ahead of you.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
For a little bit. The the man, the met, the legend,
Tommy Fury is coming back.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Oh he's he's returning. You know what.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
He's been popping up on my you know, in the
snapchat story and then like why is this guy in
my algoriroom again?
Speaker 2 (40:09):
And all that.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
He's in good shape, he's in good shape.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
He's in good shape. But he's he's coming back.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
So he's coming back.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Only one fight he can be coming back for.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
It's not the Jake Paul fight, at least not what
I think. He announced a fight in Budapest, said he
was hungry. I was like, listen, buddy, you you don't
got bars like that. He's starting his own promotions, T
and T Promotions, so I don't know what's gonna happen there.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Fair enough, Bro, do your thing. Bro, you know me,
I ain't hate man, do what you're doing in it.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
I guess if you're going, yeah, do you think?
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Do you think? I don't know how much interest that's
gonna spark.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
But the people of Budapest I was hearing through parade
at the news.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
There's they're super parade.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Yo. He enough, I'm trying to get a parade and
so he got a parade before me.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
But you know, Tommy, it's it's fun to have him
back in the scene.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
And obviously you know, his relevance is is, like you said,
attached to the crossover scene, Jake is about to apparently
announce his next fight.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Rumor is it's uh, Julio says, a job as junior.
What do you think about that?
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Right, honestly, I'm in the same boat. I'm like, that's
the face I make if I'm like all right, I'm
not either. It's just like cool, you know, I mean
I want to give me cass, I give me you know,
Tommy rematch on.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
We know, we know what we would would have preferred
to see. But at the same time, I'm not mad
at it, Like I'm not mad at it.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
It's cool.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Yeah, I mean, Julio at one time was was you know,
I don't know what I'd call him a world level
He did have a belt, but I don't know if
i'd ever call him world level.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
But he was.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
He was big time for for a bit there. Obviously,
you know, uh carrying the limiteds your father. But we'll see, hopefully,
by the way, hopefully is just cleaned up. He's had
a rough, rough go of it.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
But I think he's gonna get moved to you man.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Yeah, yeah, you think like if that fight happens, you
think Jake knocks him out.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
It's gonna be what It's gonna be a cruiserweight.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
It's gonna be a cruiserweight. Listen, I don't know anything.
So when I say things, it's just speculative. Everybody thinks
because I work with Jake, if that.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Fight happens, I don't. I don't, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Well, I'm just I've seen Mendoza pop up a couple
of different times talking about belts and whatnot, and I'm
hoping that's not the case that there's something I'm not
I'm not saying. Listen, I'm not hoping for anything bad
for anybody. But let's call spade a spade here. That's
not a world title fight.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
No, no, no, it's not, it's not. But you know,
the game will be the game, bro, The game will be.
That's the best way will be the game.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Listen if he gets that belt though, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
Let's see, let's let's see what the future is. Let's
see what the future right now? Locked it, locked it
on the twenty, that is what needs to be to facts.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
You talked as we head out here.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
You talked about ks I performing or you know, being
involved in some way. I'm not exactly sure what's going on.
Any thoughts on what's going on with him right now
with the boxing stuff and him not really knowing if
that's what he wants to go forward with anymore. You
were there from the very beginning. Uh So, I kind
of wanted to ask you as as we head out here,
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what what do you make of of KSI's boxing career
if it ends today? What can you say about it?
And and do you think it's it's done for? Do
you think he's just taking some time here?
Speaker 3 (43:42):
Man?
Speaker 4 (43:43):
Well, you know me, I've always said it outwardly. I
thought you should have retired ages ago. Yeah, I've been
said I said that because I came from a for sure.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
So I'm not looking at it as business and I
have no ships and misfits or any of these things.
So I'm just looking at it like you wasn't a
box on You did Box because it was a wave
that was so powerful when it was game change. People
like me and you and many others exist because that
side of the game was created. Yep, And I believe
(44:16):
it should have always remained those one of maybe twice
a year sort of events. I don't think it should
have ever transitioned into We're going to offer this many
shows a year.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
I'm going to have this many fighters? Am I going
to do all of this?
Speaker 4 (44:28):
So I think when that model came in, it takes
a It takes a level of commitment out of you, bro.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
It takes a level of commitment as we spoke about
earlier in the conversation, and we don't do half as much.
So if he's.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Feeling the pressure and feeling like every time I try
to get an opportunity and fire falls through, someone pulls out,
you know, the fights are not being made that the
people want to see. All you constantly get is negative backlash,
which you know some people can say it brings on
itself at times. Whatever, But it is long, bro, And
that's why has his friend I said time ago, leave it, man,
(45:08):
You don't have to do it, do you know what
I mean? And then when something work comes up a
boxing match, cool step in, man, But don't feel the
need to have to fight this many times a year
and delivered this much for misfits and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
It's just long. It's long.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
If it's not, if it's not just earth shattering to me,
if it's not, like, what's.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
The point man, what's the point unless you just unless
you just.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Want to have a scrap. And in that case, I
guess because it's your company. But I just see his
name so far above some of the stuff, and and
people don't think I do because of you know whatever
petty back and forth we have, but.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
We are smiling about.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
You told me a long time by the way, you
you are the oracle of truth, man, You told me
a long time ago. You're like, wait, you know he'd
be right about stuff.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Sometimes you just need to just.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Cause you be saying, no, you be saying stuff. And
I'm like, I hear it. I see what you're saying, Bro,
But you're just an antagonist manist. Bro, you antagonist?
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Bro, Like you're not wrong, You're not wrong, right, It's
just sometimes they don't need to be said.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
And I'm like, let me just go ahead.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
Yeah, He's like, you know, let me just drop this
tweet right now. I know he's I know he's I
know he's upset right now. I know that he's probably
just one in sometimes and so and you know what
I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
I'm just gonna holt this guy right now. That's what
I'm gonna do. And then you know what I'm gonna
do after that.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
I'm gonna make a YouTube video saying this is why
I said that, This is why.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
So leave in the comments what you think.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
People think I'm something.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Bro, I just you know what I'm saying. I just moved.
I just moved.
Speaker 4 (46:55):
But now you know what, Bro, that's why you're in
the position you're in because, yeah, man, you speak a
little sense. You speak a little sense, and you've got
to have some people that ruffle their feathers. Bro, you
have to you have to me and me will be
what's this game.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
If it if it ain't fun?
Speaker 3 (47:09):
Man?
Speaker 2 (47:09):
What's this game if we make you know?
Speaker 3 (47:11):
That's it? That's it. So now, always shout out to you,
and always shout out to JJ. But I just want
him to.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
Make the decision facts that makes him happy, and the
decision that allows him to not be stressed out facts.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
So because he's worked too hard for too many years
to be feeling like, you know, there's there's no point, bro.
That's how I feel anyway.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Yeah, So when him and I fight in twenty twenty six,
then you'll be there.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
It'll be good.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
Uh, that might be his last one. Bro.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
We're doing to fight with Wade on that were done.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
To build up the energy for you. He's gonna say,
you know, I got one more in me to this guy.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
For this guy, We running that one, okay, quick rapid
fire when we get you out of here. I ask
everybody on the show this now, just because I think
it's such a a cool way to end things. I
know this answer from you, but I think the people
would love to know. Give me your favorite fighter currently,
favorite fighter ever, and favorite fight you've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Go favorite fighter currently Terrence Crawford and why why and
why why? He can just do everything?
Speaker 4 (48:19):
Man, He can do everything man, from both stances to
fighting forward backwards, being in a dog fight, completely shutting
down and fight facing adversity, the consistency. You know, he
can finish high level opponents, people that have never been
stopped before. And I think mainly his personality. I think
(48:41):
mainly mainly as long as with all the skills I've said,
I really just like his character, Like I really just
feel like I can relate to Bud as a as
a character. A favorite fighter of all times, Red John's
junior just because bro, no one, no one was doing what.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
It was one of one man. You can't make him
in a lab.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 4 (49:03):
And you can't try and be him because you'll get
knocked out.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Try doing some of that stuff, bro, Like, no, you
know that's just rare man.
Speaker 4 (49:12):
Like he's he's like Ronaldinho, Like he's like that guy
that you want to type in dream and watch the
highlights because he's just doing things that is crazy. So,
Ray John's your favorite fight of all time? And what
was the final question?
Speaker 2 (49:27):
Your favorite fight ever? And why my.
Speaker 4 (49:29):
Favorite fight ever? I think I always say Ricky Hatton
and Floyd Maywether because when that happened, I was ten
years old. I feel like I was just coming into
that consciousness of being able to attach to a fight
build up. So seeing the worldwide press conferences obviously being
(49:49):
from here, and seeing Ricky's come up all the way
through Floyd being acting like you being the antagonist that was.
And I remember staying up until early hours of the
morning as a ten year old to watch that fire,
and I was not tired, like I was just like
I need to see this, Yeah, I need to see this.
Speaker 3 (50:09):
I remember not thinking who was I didn't know who
was going.
Speaker 4 (50:12):
To win, watching the twenty four to seven countdown show classics,
so I think, yeah, two thousand and seven, was that
December the.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Eighth, dang the day, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:25):
December the eight, two thousand and seven, and yeah, I
just remember, yeah, just being ten years old and thinking
this is this is massive, this is crazy.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
I don't know who's gonna win.
Speaker 4 (50:34):
To watch this, and uh yeah, I always there's other facts,
but I'll put that down comfortably.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
I can say comfortably, Yeah, that's a favorite.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
From that moment.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
December eight, two thousand and seven, all the way up
into this one, you have become one of the most
highly sought after, highly watched and talked about prospects in
professional boxing ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
It is the the realist Riley. He is going at
it on.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
April twenty sixth in his hometown in his home stadium
against Chef Clark for the British title. Thank you once
again it out for joining us here and good luck
brother my guy.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Thank you Bro.
Folks, welcome back to the way concept presented by the Ring.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Today.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
I am with a special guest, my brother, a man
that I have known for a very long time now.
Man that you guys, if you don't know, you're about
to know. He is one of the best cruiserweight boxers
on the planet. He is none other than the realist
in the game, not just in the boxing ring. Outside
of it, he's doing music, he's boxing your head off,
He's on YouTube, he's my man.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Pots and Pans, Vidil Riley. What is going on? The realist?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
You saying what you're saying. It's good to see you, man.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Good to see you brother. How is I was gonna say, yeah,
it's been a while.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Obviously, the reason we had to talk to you because
you've got a fight coming up on April twenty six, But.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
We'll get to that in a second. Let's do some
catching up, man, how you been.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I think the last time you saw me, we didn't
really see me in person, I don't think, but the
last time you've seen me.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Was when I was you know what I'm saying, coming
across the pond and doing my thank d you know.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
No, that was impressive, was impressive.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
We have to be honest with you. You don't have
to just fluff my.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
You know me, Bro, come on, bro, you know me. Man,
if I was, I would be like it was, it
was alright, you could do that. You know what I mean? Well,
I know honestly, for your first fight with limited time
to prepare, and nah, Bro, I had to give you
a flowers. I did give you a flowers my genuine yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah said by the way, you know, I had to
get the shorts.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
You know, I had to get of course, standard standards.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
One fight.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
It's not but it's done now. That's the thing.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Even if you don't fight again, you can say I've
had a fight camp, I've done the ring walk, I've
been out under the lights. Someone was out there to
hurt me, and I came out of victorious. Bro, That's
a priceless experience.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You and Leon said one of the funniest things I
think I heard around the fight, and I watched it
and died laughing. For like, I watched it three straight
times and died laughing. You said, like, okay, way you
came out. He was like, you know, some people when
they fight black people, they get a little scared, and
you say, well, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
It's true.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, obviously we know we know how.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
You get down around there in that in that region
of the world. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I was like, it's not intimidated a tool, Like he's
got a little bit of muscles in front of him
and he's like, yeah, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Like, but you know what that you know how we
are you.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Know how bro I was dying, bro dying? Oh man?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Well yeah, listen, I had my fight. It was uh,
I don't know if I'll ever do it again, but
it was fun. It was definitely something I needed to do.
People were chirping, you know what I'm saying. We had
we had to quiet that down. But the real fight
we're talking about, the thing that we want to get
to today is uh, the reason we're here. Your fight
on April twenty sixth on the undercard of You Banged
(02:57):
Junior Connor ben. I see you're rocking the hoodie right now.
It's in Tottenham before we even get to the matchup.
This moment has to mean everything to you.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Man.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I I know how passionate you are. Even though you
guys are in what fifth fifteenth right now?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Fifteenth yeah, it's kind of it's not Listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
It's been a bad season, Bro, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
But why am I seeing?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Why am I seeing Ariel Hawane squad in third at
Tottenham Forests or no, Nottingham Forest and you guys are
in fifteenth.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
You can play fingers in so many directions.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
High Crystal Palace.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
No, Bro, we're behind a lot of teams. We're only
above five teams.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
You know what I'm saying. It's crazy. They need you
out a good season, man.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I need to bring the winning energy to the stadium
next Saturday.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
It's got to be, but it's got to be.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
It's got to be a dream, though, man, right to
to fight in that stadium. You've been a fan for forever.
Talk to me about what that means.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
I think, Bro, it's like something that I always had
on the bucket list, something that I always you know what, man,
it'll be nice one day to fight and our home stadium. Like,
despite the team's lack of success recently, it's one of
the best stadiums Bro, that you can go to. You
know what I mean that they're hosting concerts NFL. Oh yeah, yeah,
you know what I'm saying, it's a it's an attraction,
(04:15):
you know, to fight at the stadium. So for me,
I'm like, I want to take this box off. I
thought it would happen.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Later down the line.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
I thought it would be, you know, when we're at
that world titled stage and stuff like that. I didn't
ever envision having the possibility to be on the undercard
so soon, like for the British title at Tottenham Stadium
on a historic event, like the way it will piece together. Man,
it's just I say, it's just destiny, man, Like you
just keep we stay working. Chose the path that I
(04:44):
said I'm going to choose. I told everyone like no
matter how connected I am to crossover and socials and
stuff like that, like, I know the direction I want to.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Go in my career.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
So then when these sort of opportunities pop up, it's
just like, yeah, like you know, you chose the right thing.
Life has shown you that you chose the right thing.
So now it's just time for me to seize the moment,
and I think I'll take it in more once it's done.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I'm I know where the fight is.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Like I'm obviously excited to fight in my hometown but
I'm not trying to add like too many elements onto
it other than.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
The fact that I need to defeat SHEV on that day.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
So when I watch it back and you know, a
couple of weeks past, I'll be like, we did that,
but we did that. That was a ting him, like
you know, home picked up the bridge title. But right now,
I'm just like, let's just let's just get him that,
let's just suit him out.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Let's just I can tell you're locked into because you know,
there is something to be said for the pressure of
fighting in that stadium as well, like you said, in
your hometown, and sometimes it's more about you know, the
job at hand. And then, like you said, going back
in retrospect and look, and I hope you do get
to you know when that I'm sure you got something
playing for walkout.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
We know, we know. You know what I'm saying, when
you get your walkoutsing on. I don't know if it's
new music. I don't know if it's new fit. I
don't know. I ain't gonna spoil nothing.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
It's gonna it's gonna it's gonna be different, it's gonna
be different.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
But I do hope just because I you know, I'm
so close to you. I hope that you get to
take in that moment because you deserve it. Man, that
that that stuff you can't you can't ever recreate. Like
you said, it's it's it's destiny.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
You know, it's destiny, bro, It's destiny. Like you can't
make it up that this fight could be anywhere.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
You know what I'm saying, This fight could be anywhere.
You know, it could be on any card.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
For it to be on a card with having this
much history running through it, even down to the fact
that JJ is one of the main parts of the promo.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
You know, it's.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Crazy, how bad is so is he gonna be at
the stadium.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
He's gonna be there. He's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
There because I heard he said he would never step
foot in that place.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
There's there's been a lot of a lot of Arsenal
fans around me that said they would never do somethain things,
and they're gonna have to do it because.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
This is your ultimate play and you you you've succeeded.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
This is the plan, This is the only plan.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Everyone has to have a piece of Tottingham involved because
this is what the opportunity is cooling for But you know,
just even things like that that I didn't ask JJ
to help me promote.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I didn't like you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
It just so happens that the biggest part of my
career in my hometown, with the guy that you know
rose me to fame in the world, is involved in
the promo for the event.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
And it's just stuff that you can't really write it.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It just came together, you know.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Okay, Well, this is where it was supposed to be. This,
this is literally my moment. I just I've put the
work in and I just need to take the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
You know, absolutely have put the work in.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Man, how has been you know, I know everybody asked
the question about camp and stuff, But how's it been?
I know you and and your pops have been just
grinding right now. Uh, we kind of brushed on it.
You've been off socials. I haven't seen you on Twitter,
I haven't seen you putting new videos on YouTube. You've
been locked in. And this is by the way, you
know you're always lockdam but this is this one's felt different.
(08:03):
This one's felt like you've gone to another level here.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah, this this this CAMPU has just been like literally,
you just preserve your energy, bro.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Like there's been there's.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
A lot of stuff that's happened, you know, personally as
well and just uh just things that I've had to
deal with, you know, part of life and part of
part of maturing and part of just things happening.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Man. So I just said, you know what I need
to do.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I need to focus on this fight, put all my
energy into this fight, don't spread myself too thin, and
once the once this fight is complete and successful, then
we can, you know, open up the doors to all
the other things that I enjoy doing and what the
people were used to seeing me do. But I just
felt like if I was trying to balance socials, dealing
(08:54):
with life itself, training, You're just going to spread yourself
too thin.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Man. So I you need to.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Just know when there's a time to just say, you know,
I'm just out for no I mean, just give the
people a chance to miss you as well. You know
sometimes that's.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
One hundred percent. I'm so glad you said that. I'm
I'm you.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Know, I'm you know, I'm a big pro wrestling guy.
And uh, actually I'm going to WrestleMania this week.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
So I'm going up there. Yeah, man Vegas, come on.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
But one of the great wrestling managers of all time,
Jim Cornett, says, how can they miss you if you
never go away?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Right, it's a big it's a big thing.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
And when you come out and you put on this
performance you're looking to put on on Saturday. Uh, I
think that will give that that resurgence right back to
the channel like it always doesn't trust me, you know again,
I've had one little measly fight. But it was tough,
you know, even for me, a guy that does this
for a living, to try to keep the YouTube and everything.
(09:47):
There were days where I was I don't even want
to see a camera, dude, I get this stuff out
of my face. I just want to go do what
I have to do, go eat and go to sleep
like that's on.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
So I got a little little bitty taste of it, dude.
So that's what you're see, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
That's that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Once you've done it, you can you can you know,
relate to the emotion, especially having having the socials and
running your life off the socials. You know, when you
was in camp and when you was preparing, there was
these moments where you're like I'm good.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I don't need YouTube.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Yeah, Like, there's so much there's so much stuff that's
been happening as well to be able to talk about,
and you know, there's been some hot topics and me
and Lil have been.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Like, yo, like.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Ready to I know, I know, but.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
It's gonna make that It's gonna make the return.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
So much sweeter because you're going to just have the
opportunity to just recap them so much and just give
the people what we what we get for sure.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Bro, Well, let's talk about the fight, because I think
it's a clear statement, at least to me, that this
will be the big, big step up here, at least
as far as the numbers are concerned. You're talking about
Chef Clark, who the first time I had heard about
Chef Clark was out of the Olympics the round of sixteen.
Big time accomplishment obviously, and then the famous Eddie Hearn
(11:07):
you know proposition in the crossover seat he had, you know,
pointed him and said, Jake go and fight. I want
to know guy trying to pull the rug on Jake.
But let's talk about his actual numbers. He is a
top fifteenth ranked cruiserweight in three divisions or three commissions,
and you haven't fought that level of rising prospect yet
(11:28):
he's a British champion. Talk to me about why this
was the fight, because you know, we'd had some fights
set up with Isaac Chamberlain and potentially look in some
other ways.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Why was Chev the fight?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
I was just told that's what was gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
You just said, yeah, this is what's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
I just the fight with Isaac phill through and then
I was just told, yeah, you're going to be fighting
Chev for the British title. Like it wasn't like I
wasn't sent an opponent list or like anything like that.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
It was just like, oh, yeah, by the.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Way, these ring cards, these these real season cards, the
matchmaking is a one. So when they dropped the name,
you're ready to go.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
You dropped the name, And I'm thinking, with such a
big opportunity, the central opportunity with the Isaac falling through,
it was like to have this as the next opportunity,
like how can I how can I not take it?
Like this is a better opportunity than it than fighting Isaac.
So for that to fall through again. Man, life has
its way of doing what it does, and you know,
(12:33):
if you've got faith and you're working, it will.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Work out in your favor.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
So that was just like, okay, so we're going to
defend the English. Now we're getting opportunity to fight for
the Britdige title in tomm Stadium and undercard of You Bang.
And then I'm like, okay, Isaac, were safe, bro, I'll
see it. I guess we don't have to talk anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
This is did you just done?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
It's it's I do want to talk about did you did?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Like?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
How frustrating was it to not be able to get
your hands on him because that seemed like the build
was something we hadn't seen in your career yet and
that you both were, you know, at one point talking
and then it seemed like he stopped and you you
were like, where'd you go?
Speaker 4 (13:16):
It was it was frustrating in the initial because I think,
what did he pull out? Like two weeks before the fight,
maybe like two three weeks before the fight.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So we're hounded him by the way. I was like, man,
is really good?
Speaker 4 (13:27):
No, No, he had to he had to. He had
to have one week I said to myself. I'm gonna
give him a designated seven days of just roasting, because
you can't just say, oh, I pulled out, show no proof,
vanish off the face of the earth, and then I'm
supposed to let you vanish, like you have to feel
some sort of shame for ruining what was going to
(13:50):
be a good event.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yeah, you know what I mean. And then after those
seven days, I was like, cool, let's let's move on now.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
And you can't be stuck up on right one. But
you know, it was disappointing. You put a lot of
work in, you sacrifice, you know. I had the fight
in December just to shake off some quick quick rush
to be back ready again for February first. And I
had a feeling, man, I had a feeling. I had
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a feeling that the fight was going to be pushed
back or something, but I didn't invest in it. And
then when it happened, I was like I knew it,
Like I felt that I felt that the fight wasn't
going to happen on February first. I just had this feeling.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Well, now we're here, Chef Clark, obviously, you know everybody
in this scene. I think Daniel du Once said you
were the best amateur boxer he'd ever seen. So everybody
knows you, you know, everybody. Man, what what does this
fight look like to you? And you know, without giving
up too much, what do you see in chef yah?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
No, you see, chev is a very accomplished fight on.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Amateur. I'm professional. As you said, you named his positions
in the governing body. He's British champion and foot for
the European title. He did come up, sure, but he's
got good names on his record, you know. And I
feel like he's just one of those guys that's gonna
bring the best of me, Like I have to bring
my best in order to defeat him.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
That this is not an easy opponent. This is not
a guy that is like cool, yeah, like whatever.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
I have to have given him the respect he deserves
in my preparation, you know, my sacrifice and that we said,
taking breaks from the socials and stuff, because I understand
the occasion, I will, I will beat.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Him because I just it's just that's what I do,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Honestly a lot of people are gonna look at this
fight and see his name next years in the billing
and think I mean, I don't know what the odds
stand at right now, but I would assume there's going
to be a lot of people thinking he's the favor here.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Yeah, and that's great, you know what I mean, Like,
this is what we're here for, right, I'm not I
really does that.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
It has to feel good though, right. You're usually these
fights like oh here, you know, was about to smoke this?
What about for this one?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
It's it's a different storyline for you.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
You know, I'm happy.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
I'm happy when the public are not certain on if
I can win, because that's what creates excitement. Bro, That's
what interest is about, you know what I mean. Like,
I've had that stage of my career where everyone's expected
me to look spectacular, knowing that the gun on the
other side of the ring isn't as good as me,
and I'm supposed to just build myself up, you know,
I've had that face and now I'm enter in the
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phase where people see the.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Other gun thinking I don't know if the dog.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
I don't know, So I'm like this is good. I
like it, Like I'm here for challenge. You know, a
lot of fighters turn down challenges, bro, you know, not
everyone's here to be tested not everyone's here to test
the boundaries. But for me, I'm like cool, I understand
there's a journey. I understand there's a process. So I'm
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not going to throw myself into any challenge just because
I want to seem like see.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I don't say no ever. But at the same time, when.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
It makes sense and it's someone that you know, you've
you've prepped for, he's been on your radar and you
always knew this could be a potential showdown when the
day comes, I'm ready, man, I'm ready for it.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I can see, man, I can see you're chomping at
the bit. And by the way, you know, for all
to talk about challenges and whatnot, you're fighting at British level,
I would say, relatively quickly. You know, in your career
there's been greats like Ricky had and that didn't step
up to that level till way later. And there's others
in the same boat, not just in the UK, but
just across their career, stepping up way later in their career.
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I've always thought your trajectory, even chev stepping up as
quickly as you have, has built you, guys into the matchup.
We're going to see two great fighters going out. Honestly,
I'm looking at the card and I look at show
stealing fight there early that people may not as we
go into this car realize, but coming out of it,
sure we'll talk about the main event. Sure, I'm sure
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we'll talk about the Yard and Arthur fight. But I
think one of those big topics, you know what is
it talkSPORT over there. Talk Sport's gonna be on there, man,
and they're gonna be chatted about this one.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Now for sure, this is this is literally number one,
number two.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
When it got announced, I went, oh, wow, like that.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I've seen, you know, the rest of cards, great, but
I looked at that one. And maybe it's because you know,
I'm I'm you know, your boy and stuff, but I
was like, man, that right there is one to keep
an eye on.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Ten rounds. Yeah, we're going ten twelve. Okay, they've got
you to see box right. You know what I'm saying,
box right, you step up the game up.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Okay, twelve rounds.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Twelve rounds for his thirteenth fight. Now, chev you know
it's really for him time, thirty four years old, it's
it's not really any more time to waste. Does that
when you're when you're fighting a guy like that and
you already said you have to beat him into submission, right.
You saw him get off the canvas and his last
fight come back and really trying to make that push
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didn't end up, you know, getting the nod. But he's
a guy who're gonna have to nail to the ground
or you know outbox for twelve. Does his age, in
the fact that it's now really kind of never at
that age, really factoring as well.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, I think, bro, it's just nature in it. It's nature.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
It's not my it's not my rules, it's just last rules.
No one's really getting stronger or physically better at thirty
four years old. You do get small, you know, you
get wiser, which is like the trade off for losing
your physical attributes. But he's he's not smarter than me,
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and physically at twenty seven, I'm only entering my prime. Bro,
you know I'm only entering my prime. I've had I've
had a time with Sky when I was twenty four.
I've seen my body change, I've seen my you know,
my personality change. I've seen I've entering that phase. You
I mean, I feel like shev did leave the stage
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that I'm at now. He left that in the amateurs.
So everything that he's achieving now is because he's extremely dedicated.
He's extremely stubborn. He got love for the game, which
obviously prolonged how long you can perform at a high level.
But you can't beat in nature. You can't beat in nature.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
And it's my.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Job to show next Saturday. That's my wave. Now, it's
my time. And I hope that you know the fact
is a good challenge on route to.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Prove in that. And if it's not, not take it anyway.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, the way you say that, you know you you
look at this, it seems like you have an idea
how this thing is going to go in your head.
What do you see happening?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
You see him stopping You think you stop him.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I believe I can. I believe I can stop him.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Because that was a little cheeky at the end there.
I hope he brings a challenge, you.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Know, no, no, no, no, I do I do, but
I do believe I can stop him. He might feel
the same about me. He's shown more vulnerability than I'm
shown so far. He's for higher level people, so you
can maybe cancel it out with that, But at the
same time, he shows vulnerability at early stages in his
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career as well, when the level wasn't higher than.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
The level that I was competing at.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
So I think, yeah, I can stop him if the
opportunity presents itself, And what history has shown, if I
get someone going, I normally do finish them. So if
that presents itself an next Saturday, then I don't see
why it will be any different. But yeah, this is
this is going to be This is going to be
a good coming out party. Man, this is going to
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be a good time to announce myself on a world
scene as a fighter.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
You know, We've been announced on the.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
World scene through the socials and through other things that
I've done.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
But as a fighter, I think, yeah, you know what.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
I'm saying, got the bangers, don't play, don't play.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah, it's true, it's true. It's true.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
But as a as a you know, as a fighter,
I feel like this is the one now where there's
a lot of eyes on it. It's a big event.
It's it's bigger than boxing. Everyone's gonna want to know
what's happening on that day. So to be a part
of it, I'm just gonna put a performance on that
puts myself out there and represents me, my team, my
brand in the best way possible, so we can continue
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to fly upwards.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Man, speaking of flying upward, you know, I know you're
focused on chev but you know, on this very card
is a is a familiar face. A guy you facing
the amateur's a guy that just now held a belt
for a bit, Chris BILLM Smith. When you get when
you get the job done, after your fight, are you gonna,
you know, hit the showers, come back out and maybe
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take a peek at that fight.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
I'm going to try and have a look at whatever
fights I can, man, just because it's a big card
and there's every fight that's.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
On the undercard could be a main event on another day. True,
So I will try. I don't know the running order.
I'm not sure if I'm the first fight on. I'm
not sure if Chris is first, right, but I'll be
keeping an eye on it. I'll be keeping eye.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Is he a guy you look at is potentially you know, Okay,
I've get this fight, and how do I make my way?
There's a ton of people in the rankings that you know,
how it sorts itself out is how it sorts itself out.
But you have experience in the ring with him, you
know now he's he's gotten up there and grabbed a belt.
Is that when one that you look at in the future.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Potentially it could.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Be, But I believe me and Chris would only meet
at the highest level. You know, Chris is cool man
that me and him can chop it up and talk
when we're at events and stuff, and I know that
his aspirations is only to compete at the highest level.
I can't see him coming back down to rebuild his career.
He's he's been a world champion. Of course, he's defended
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his world title. He wants to literally have fights that
get him back into more world title fights. So if
me and Chris was to cross paths, it would have
to be at the level that he has said, like,
this is where I'm trying to be or not trying
to come to the giop. Yeah, I'm trying to the
young guys that's coming up, people that behind me.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
You know, I will say, you know, I had Drew
Jordian last week and he says, if the fight happens tomorrow,
you beat him.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Those are his Chris with Chris, Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Those are his words, and I was saying, I'm just
I'm just putting it out there. Potentially, I don't.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Know in the future, you know what brands like. You know,
he can't.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I'm just telling you what he said. That's all. That's all.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
That's cool, that's cool. I'm just luck.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I'm just focusing a humble guy, man, I know you're
focused on the fight ahead. We'll talk to me though
about the about the main event, because you know it's
a stacked card, but obviously the main event is you
talked about it. It's history for British boxing. Maybe not
in the way that a lot of people would think
of history, you know, world titles and undisputed and unified.
But the namesake Chris, you Bank Connor, it just meanss more, right,
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it just means more.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
It's something again that you can't It's hard to recreate.
To be able to have two legendary fathers who had
a rivalry, to then have two sons that compete and
then can meet is not going to happen often, do
you know what I mean? Like it's it's not it's
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just like this is nostalgia. This is not about who's
the best in the world, who's going to be the
panther pound, who's going to be the ring magazine? Like,
this is not that part of history. This is just
a matter of we could make it happen. The people
who want to see it, they actually do dislike each
other as well, so it's a grudge match.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
It's so insane to watch them interact and recall the
fathers the way they interacted, and it's almost identical, not
even without like it's not even trying to be, but
it's just their personalities. You can see both their fathers
in it. You can see the fiery nature of Nigel
and Connor.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
You can see the you know, let's have some parliamentary procedures.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
You can see that in you banked Junior, and it's
just he does a little more needling than Senior does.
But it's so fun to see and I'm, you know,
looking on it from the outside end.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I love it. I know you all have to when
that fight does.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Get in the ring, because we're seeing all the stuff
outside of the ring, the eggs, the you know, the
name calling, the Nigel doing freaking undertaker with the choke.
I was like, oh my god, if my jokes left him,
but hopefully, hopefully we get in the ring, no no
issues beforehand. How do you see the fight because there's
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a lot of people going either way with it, you know,
talking about the speed, the punch power, the youth of
Connor Bin but he is coming up and wait and
then you talk about the experience, the skill, the the
levels that you bang juniors fought at.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
But maybe he's a little older. In the two what
do you think.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I slightly that slightly lead with Chris to win, not
that much, but I do think I have to leave
with Chris a bit just because of the people he's
faced and Connor. One of the main things is Connor
hasn't shown the power at the higher weight classes, So
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when he's fought at one fifty four, he wasn't He's
throwing the punches with the same intentions and the same
velocity and you know, the ferociousness that we know he does.
But the guys were kind of looking at him like cool, bro,
that's nice. You know I can take that. So no,
and I think it's it's we haven't seen that firepower
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from him in the higher weights, and that was a
lower weight than what they are fighting. At So if
the firepower wasn't displayed at one fifty four, what will
it magically repair at one sixty?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Potential eggs for breakfast can make a difference.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
You said that, you said just saying you get it good,
you get a good breakfast, then it helps your fight,
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
So that's why I'm kind of like Chris has been
hit by the bigger guy is naturally his whole career,
you know, against Liam Smith the first time round, we
did think, wow, Chris's punch resistance may be gone. But again,
Liam Smith is a is a bigger person than kind
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of been always competed in a.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Higher weight class. So like, yeah, I'm gonna site with Chris.
I always I have it like fifty five.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I'm telling you, man, it does feel like one of those.
And that's why I love the fight. I've been trying
to tell people, you know, granted, I'm very you know,
young and and brand new to a lot of the
pro boxing scene and really trying to establish myself. But
one of the things is frustrated me to no end
coming into this game is seeing just the importance just
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on title fight that we can't have a big fight,
a big fight unless there's a belt on the line,
And I'm like, why there's so many big fights that
can headline without a belt And this is proving it.
Sold out Tottenham, people are just buzzing about this fight
and we couldn't care what weight it's that, what titles
on the line, it's just those two names and we
want to see it type of thing, and I really
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hope that that's the big thing.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
The main thing is if everyone wants to see people
fight you don't like each other, you know, like nothing
can be that feeling. I don't like you, I know
that you don't like me. That's fight fact, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
The oldest, the oldest like thing combat sports.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
It's like we want to see two people beat each
other up that don't like each other.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
You know, and that always adds that extra fire to it.
Like for me, I don't dislike shit for example, you
know what I mean, We're just both competitors and we
like to challenge ourselves and I'm going.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
To try and finish you and he's going to try
to finish me, and that I like that. That works,
But then there's times when it's like I don't like
this guy.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
So we need what you're saying is we need to
put like fifteen pounds on indrit virgo and then we'll see.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
You know, hey, that's a difference. There's a difference. You see,
that's a that's a real that's a real difference. But
one thing I would say in Connor's favor, because I
did speak a lot about Chris, but yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
You can't defeat you can't that desire man, that desire
and that kind that he fights angry like some people
can't fight well angry, but he fights well fueled angry
and he's not going to be any more angry or
fueled for any other fight than this fact. So that
is powerful. That's a real powerful energy that if he
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can harness it. That's why I think the fight's close,
because it's a lot of emotion, and he's an emotional guy,
and he can use that emotion to be dangerous.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
So and also he feels he feels like it's it's
you know, his destiny, his dad in his corner. And
I kind of wanted to ask you about that. Both
these guys relationships with their fathers obviously you know, put
out in the public pretty pretty uh recently, and obviously
even for for you Bank Junior for a long time. Now,
what would you make because we know that Connor and
Nigel are like inseparable at the hip, Idol's gonna be
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in his corner, He's gonna be there with him. But
then on the other side and you kind of have
some experience with your dad being in your corner. But
you Bank Junior, his dad is telling him, essentially, don't
take the fight. You're gonna get knocked out. And we
don't know if he's going to be there. Their relationships
super turbulent.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
What do you what do you make of that?
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Man?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I think Chris you Senior is a very wise man.
I think he's he stands on business, he stands in
his opinion. He's not here to fit into what might
you know, affect the event or anything. He's just like,
this is what I feel is my son, That's what
I feel.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
So it is similar.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
You know my dad is similar in that way with
It's like, I don't care everyone, what's the same. I'm
telling you it's my son. This is how I feel
about it, and that's it.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
And you have to respect that.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
You have to respect that you don't know and obviously
the son is not always going to agree with the father,
you know. You, I know you have a great relationship
with your father as well, and I'm always going to
see eye to eye.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
He's gonna have a strong opinion, you.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Know what I mean, and then you're going to be
like nah, then man, and he's gonna like, well, I
don't care.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
That's why I think.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
And it just so happens that in this situation, it's
such a big scale and it's so public because of
who they are. But I don't think it's anything abnormal
between having father and sons who both share strong personalities,
you know what I mean. Christina probably looks at himself
and sees a lot of junior in him and vice versa.
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You know, So sometimes that doesn't always mold. Sometimes that
can have a little bit of a clash. On the
other side, Connor and Nigel seem to click and Joe
extremely well, but come today, it's about the suns.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Don't matter about none of that.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
That's true, man, you know, not about any of that.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Nigel get in and take around for him, you know,
let him recovery.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
You know, Nigel would to Nigel jump in there tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
But it's not about that man, same way as much
as you know, as much as my my dad has
alder passion for me, and.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Let there get in there. Now, come on, now, don't
let there you know, I mean.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
I know, I know you would get in there and
throw some pieces, but he just gotta let me do it.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I've seen him popping them jabs on true Jordan. Uh,
that's it's gonna be historical. It man, I'm super proud
of you. I know you're gonna kill it out there,
and obviously that main event is going to be insane.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
But let's really quickly before I let you get out
of here, let's move on to literally the week.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
After, because yeah, the ring and and everything that Turkey
Yella Shake is doing for boxing, he's putting on some
crazy events. Yes, we're starting in Totten, I'm in front
of eighty ninety thousand, whatever's going to be in their
seventy eighty thousand. Then next week we're going to Times Square.
I don't even know how this is humanly possible to do.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
We're gonna stage of boxing in the middle of Time Square.
Have you ever seen anything like this?
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Never, bro I don't think anyone has. I don't think
we were supposed to. You know, it's just like and
it's not. It's a VIP only event. Yeah, you buy tickets.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Nah, bro, I mean listen, you got it. Well, I
was gonna say I got it on good authority. You
know what I'm saying. We might have to cruise to
New York, Bro, I might. I might as well make
it nounce, So now we might as well tell people.
You know what I'm saying. I'll be in London too.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
So okay, I'll be there.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I'll be there.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Come and see your boy after the scene.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Yeah, really come on the scene.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
But yeah, apparently I don't know how it's gonna work.
I don't even know what. Like, there's so much that
I just don't know yet. But yeah, it's a VIP event.
I'm pretty sure there's a only like one hundred to
three hundred seats available and they're only four specific people. Uh,
you know, you just think about it in your head
in Times.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Square with the digital billboards.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
And the lights and everything. It's gonna be an insane look.
It's gonna look like a video game. It's gonna look
like Fatal Fury come to life.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
And I guess that's what they're going for Yeah, yeah,
I guess that's what they're going.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
By the way, did they tell you you're gonna get
your character in the game or what are we doing?
Speaker 3 (35:24):
This is what I'm saying. I need a copy of
the game first.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
What we're doing, bro, I.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Need to get a copy at least two.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Man's get speed in the game. We can't give it out, Riley.
What are we doing?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Man, come on, man, I know that would be good.
But I'm sure you know, I'm sure we then things
will work itself out. Man.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
But to have the event in Times Square stupid crazy. Yeah,
I'm very very interested to see what it looks like
because I'm in Times Square. Yeah, and like, yeah, it's
one of those places in it, like when you're standing
in the middle of Times Square you're like, well, I'm.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
In Times Square, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
So to see that transition into somehow being a fight
venue and everyone that lives in the city being annoyed
that the transport and.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
That's part of it no one's talking about. And I'm
glad you brought it up.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
My girlfriend is from New York and I told you
when she when I you know, when it came about
she goes, Oh, that's gonna be a nightmare.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
I was like, what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah, it goes everybody's gonna get so upset because they
can't get on the train, they can't get on the subway.
Like I was like, I forget all that. She's like,
I'm telling you, I don't know how they're gonna do it.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
No, it's gonna be It's gonna be crazy. But you
know what they say in life, that's a U program.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah, bro, you gotta have to hold out for a night.
We got stuff to do, we got a history to make.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
This is it, this is it?
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Come on, well quickly, let's give a little rapid fire
on the fights. Which one are you more looking forward to?
You got Ryan or Sea Roly Romero in the main event,
Devin Hane, Jose Ramirez and the comin and well I
don't know where they're gonna know, but tia Fimo Lopez
and Arnold Barbosa also on the car for the WBO title.
So which one do you stands out the most?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Like only a three fight cardna.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
I think, And you know what I'm saying, Yeah, there's
the main event for a reason.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
It's that I think it's the right main event, the personalities,
the drama, the whole backstory of what Iran's had to
go through to get himself back to this point. It's
gonna be interesting to see those two personalities clash man, Yeah,
because they're very outspoken, They've got a.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Lot to say.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
It's going to be exciting to see the return of
Devin as well, because that that that defeat was a
lot and I just hope that he can come back
and show the quality of that he's shown before.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
And of course t O is t O man.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
So to we don't know what we're gonna get.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I mean, by the.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Way, Arnold Barbosa Junior, no walk in the park, not
a guy that that's the toughest fight on the card,
and Teo's taking it. And I would argue, out of
the three of them, Ta Femo, you know, Devin Haney's
resume is insane. Femo's resumes also insane. And I think
pound for pound, skill for skill, boxing IQ for boxing
a qu he might be the best of the three
of them, not even might be, he probably is.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Yeah, I think yeah, out of out of the three,
I would rank TiO the highest, the best.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
He's my most my most favorite to watch.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yeah, he does it all, does it all.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
He hasn't got the speed and the left hook of Ryan.
That left hook is crazy and that's too.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Man for for from being a specialist at that high
level like Ryan is, I've never.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Seen anything like it.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
I've been trying the last couple of months to track
down everybody from ten Goose to you know, uh, anybody
have to speak to to be like, what what is it?
And they're like, we don't know, man, It's just he's.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Been he had that, he's had that in his look.
No coach that can teach him that.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
At this point, I'm in there in the bag. I'm like,
show me, show me. They're like, we can't.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
That's him. But they specialize. Between t O, Devin and Ryan,
they all specialize in different areas, you know what I mean.
Over you could say t O. But the job the
IQ of Devin, by the way, you know, you can't
you can't take that away from it. The speed, the explosiveness,
(39:17):
the left hook called Ryan, and of course To has
shown us a bit of everything. To be fair, he's
shown us a bit of everything. So that's a very
good card. Only three fights, but that would be good
for the people in the city so they can get
the Times Square.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
But I can't wait for that one.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
And then before we get you out of here, I
didn't know if if you saw, just to wrap up
some things because you've been off social yesterday, a massive
name is announced a comeback fight.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Did you see.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
No, it's a name that, uh.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
You know, is well regarded in the pro scene and
one that you know, I think he was actually ranked
ahead of you.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
For a little bit. The the man, the met, the legend,
Tommy Fury is coming back.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Oh he's he's returning. You know what.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
He's been popping up on my you know, in the
snapchat story and then like why is this guy in
my algoriroom again?
Speaker 2 (40:09):
And all that.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
He's in good shape, he's in good shape.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
He's in good shape. But he's he's coming back.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
So he's coming back.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Only one fight he can be coming back for.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
It's not the Jake Paul fight, at least not what
I think. He announced a fight in Budapest, said he
was hungry. I was like, listen, buddy, you you don't
got bars like that. He's starting his own promotions, T
and T Promotions, so I don't know what's gonna happen there.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Fair enough, Bro, do your thing. Bro, you know me,
I ain't hate man, do what you're doing in it.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
I guess if you're going, yeah, do you think?
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Do you think? I don't know how much interest that's
gonna spark.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
But the people of Budapest I was hearing through parade
at the news.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
There's they're super parade.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Yo. He enough, I'm trying to get a parade and
so he got a parade before me.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
But you know, Tommy, it's it's fun to have him
back in the scene.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
And obviously you know, his relevance is is, like you said,
attached to the crossover scene, Jake is about to apparently
announce his next fight.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Rumor is it's uh, Julio says, a job as junior.
What do you think about that?
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Right, honestly, I'm in the same boat. I'm like, that's
the face I make if I'm like all right, I'm
not either. It's just like cool, you know, I mean
I want to give me cass, I give me you know,
Tommy rematch on.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
We know, we know what we would would have preferred
to see. But at the same time, I'm not mad
at it, Like I'm not mad at it.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
It's cool.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Yeah, I mean, Julio at one time was was you know,
I don't know what I'd call him a world level
He did have a belt, but I don't know if
i'd ever call him world level.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
But he was.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
He was big time for for a bit there. Obviously,
you know, uh carrying the limiteds your father. But we'll see, hopefully,
by the way, hopefully is just cleaned up. He's had
a rough, rough go of it.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
But I think he's gonna get moved to you man.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Yeah, yeah, you think like if that fight happens, you
think Jake knocks him out.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
It's gonna be what It's gonna be a cruiserweight.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
It's gonna be a cruiserweight. Listen, I don't know anything.
So when I say things, it's just speculative. Everybody thinks
because I work with Jake, if that.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Fight happens, I don't. I don't, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Well, I'm just I've seen Mendoza pop up a couple
of different times talking about belts and whatnot, and I'm
hoping that's not the case that there's something I'm not
I'm not saying. Listen, I'm not hoping for anything bad
for anybody. But let's call spade a spade here. That's
not a world title fight.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
No, no, no, it's not, it's not. But you know,
the game will be the game, bro, The game will be.
That's the best way will be the game.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Listen if he gets that belt though, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
Let's see, let's let's see what the future is. Let's
see what the future right now? Locked it, locked it
on the twenty, that is what needs to be to facts.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
You talked as we head out here.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
You talked about ks I performing or you know, being
involved in some way. I'm not exactly sure what's going on.
Any thoughts on what's going on with him right now
with the boxing stuff and him not really knowing if
that's what he wants to go forward with anymore. You
were there from the very beginning. Uh So, I kind
of wanted to ask you as as we head out here,
(43:33):
what what do you make of of KSI's boxing career
if it ends today? What can you say about it?
And and do you think it's it's done for? Do
you think he's just taking some time here?
Speaker 3 (43:42):
Man?
Speaker 4 (43:43):
Well, you know me, I've always said it outwardly. I
thought you should have retired ages ago. Yeah, I've been
said I said that because I came from a for sure.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
So I'm not looking at it as business and I
have no ships and misfits or any of these things.
So I'm just looking at it like you wasn't a
box on You did Box because it was a wave
that was so powerful when it was game change. People
like me and you and many others exist because that
side of the game was created. Yep, And I believe
(44:16):
it should have always remained those one of maybe twice
a year sort of events. I don't think it should
have ever transitioned into We're going to offer this many
shows a year.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
I'm going to have this many fighters? Am I going
to do all of this?
Speaker 4 (44:28):
So I think when that model came in, it takes
a It takes a level of commitment out of you, bro.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
It takes a level of commitment as we spoke about
earlier in the conversation, and we don't do half as much.
So if he's.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Feeling the pressure and feeling like every time I try
to get an opportunity and fire falls through, someone pulls out,
you know, the fights are not being made that the
people want to see. All you constantly get is negative backlash,
which you know some people can say it brings on
itself at times. Whatever, But it is long, bro, And
that's why has his friend I said time ago, leave it, man,
(45:08):
You don't have to do it, do you know what
I mean? And then when something work comes up a
boxing match, cool step in, man, But don't feel the
need to have to fight this many times a year
and delivered this much for misfits and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
It's just long. It's long.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
If it's not, if it's not just earth shattering to me,
if it's not, like, what's.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
The point man, what's the point unless you just unless
you just.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Want to have a scrap. And in that case, I
guess because it's your company. But I just see his
name so far above some of the stuff, and and
people don't think I do because of you know whatever
petty back and forth we have, but.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
We are smiling about.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
You told me a long time by the way, you
you are the oracle of truth, man, You told me
a long time ago. You're like, wait, you know he'd
be right about stuff.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Sometimes you just need to just.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Cause you be saying, no, you be saying stuff. And
I'm like, I hear it. I see what you're saying, Bro,
But you're just an antagonist manist. Bro, you antagonist?
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Bro, Like you're not wrong, You're not wrong, right, It's
just sometimes they don't need to be said.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
And I'm like, let me just go ahead.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
Yeah, He's like, you know, let me just drop this
tweet right now. I know he's I know he's I
know he's upset right now. I know that he's probably
just one in sometimes and so and you know what
I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
I'm just gonna holt this guy right now. That's what
I'm gonna do. And then you know what I'm gonna
do after that.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
I'm gonna make a YouTube video saying this is why
I said that, This is why.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
So leave in the comments what you think.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
People think I'm something.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Bro, I just you know what I'm saying. I just moved.
I just moved.
Speaker 4 (46:55):
But now you know what, Bro, that's why you're in
the position you're in because, yeah, man, you speak a
little sense. You speak a little sense, and you've got
to have some people that ruffle their feathers. Bro, you
have to you have to me and me will be
what's this game.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
If it if it ain't fun?
Speaker 3 (47:09):
Man?
Speaker 2 (47:09):
What's this game if we make you know?
Speaker 3 (47:11):
That's it? That's it. So now, always shout out to you,
and always shout out to JJ. But I just want
him to.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
Make the decision facts that makes him happy, and the
decision that allows him to not be stressed out facts.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
So because he's worked too hard for too many years
to be feeling like, you know, there's there's no point, bro.
That's how I feel anyway.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Yeah, So when him and I fight in twenty twenty six,
then you'll be there.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
It'll be good.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
Uh, that might be his last one. Bro.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
We're doing to fight with Wade on that were done.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
To build up the energy for you. He's gonna say,
you know, I got one more in me to this guy.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
For this guy, We running that one, okay, quick rapid
fire when we get you out of here. I ask
everybody on the show this now, just because I think
it's such a a cool way to end things. I
know this answer from you, but I think the people
would love to know. Give me your favorite fighter currently,
favorite fighter ever, and favorite fight you've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Go favorite fighter currently Terrence Crawford and why why and
why why? He can just do everything?
Speaker 4 (48:19):
Man, He can do everything man, from both stances to
fighting forward backwards, being in a dog fight, completely shutting
down and fight facing adversity, the consistency. You know, he
can finish high level opponents, people that have never been
stopped before. And I think mainly his personality. I think
(48:41):
mainly mainly as long as with all the skills I've said,
I really just like his character, Like I really just
feel like I can relate to Bud as a as
a character. A favorite fighter of all times, Red John's
junior just because bro, no one, no one was doing what.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
It was one of one man. You can't make him
in a lab.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 4 (49:03):
And you can't try and be him because you'll get
knocked out.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Try doing some of that stuff, bro, Like, no, you
know that's just rare man.
Speaker 4 (49:12):
Like he's he's like Ronaldinho, Like he's like that guy
that you want to type in dream and watch the
highlights because he's just doing things that is crazy. So,
Ray John's your favorite fight of all time? And what
was the final question?
Speaker 2 (49:27):
Your favorite fight ever? And why my.
Speaker 4 (49:29):
Favorite fight ever? I think I always say Ricky Hatton
and Floyd Maywether because when that happened, I was ten
years old. I feel like I was just coming into
that consciousness of being able to attach to a fight
build up. So seeing the worldwide press conferences obviously being
(49:49):
from here, and seeing Ricky's come up all the way
through Floyd being acting like you being the antagonist that was.
And I remember staying up until early hours of the
morning as a ten year old to watch that fire,
and I was not tired, like I was just like
I need to see this, Yeah, I need to see this.
Speaker 3 (50:09):
I remember not thinking who was I didn't know who
was going.
Speaker 4 (50:12):
To win, watching the twenty four to seven countdown show classics,
so I think, yeah, two thousand and seven, was that
December the.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Eighth, dang the day, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:25):
December the eight, two thousand and seven, and yeah, I
just remember, yeah, just being ten years old and thinking
this is this is massive, this is crazy.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
I don't know who's gonna win.
Speaker 4 (50:34):
To watch this, and uh yeah, I always there's other facts,
but I'll put that down comfortably.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
I can say comfortably, Yeah, that's a favorite.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
From that moment.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
December eight, two thousand and seven, all the way up
into this one, you have become one of the most
highly sought after, highly watched and talked about prospects in
professional boxing ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
It is the the realist Riley. He is going at
it on.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
April twenty sixth in his hometown in his home stadium
against Chef Clark for the British title. Thank you once
again it out for joining us here and good luck
brother my guy.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Thank you Bro.
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