October 1, 2024 • 40 mins
Why is Jason calling today the GREATEST sports day of the year? Longtime NFL Insider Jason La Canfora swings by for all the latest on MNF, the Jets, Chiefs and Ravens. And we remember an absolute legend!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:25):
Radio Knarco five second Dance Party. Did you really just
start doing the sprinkler thing?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I did tell Alan that the Mets suck.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
You still can't just get it clean? No, from the office, No,
you get Oh, it's better that way. You get it
from the YouTube video that goes right into a Seinfeld thing.
So it's we get double the funny. You can't just
play the tell allan, No, no, no, we're gonna play it.
So it's the beginning of the next video, which is signed.
Have you never seen Forrest Gump?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Yeah, remember when he's running and the guy wipes his
face with it and he makes like the happy face thing.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
It was an accident.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, No, that's an accident.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
This this is better because it accidentally seinfelt.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
This. This is you just being lazy and not going wow, Wow,
I'm Steve carellzing. Did you just do that?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
We're two minutes into the show and you're calling my
man lazi? Hell kind of day is it gonna be?
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Now?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I am getting trolled on the greatest day of my life?
How did you get trolled? This is.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Jason? Guess what?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
I had many touchdowns as Aaron Rodgers did yesterday. You
feel good about that?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Hey? That that was yesterday? Hey, you guys exchanged hat
was off? I'd like to reset. How was yesterday?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Mike?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
He came in here and pushed me. We have whoa
we are going back. We have no cadence problem. So
there's a lot of days problems. Look at him, his
eyes are wide. You've besmirched his name. Two minutes in
I did not. You called him lazy, So I said,
what what the he is a lazy thing? He's there.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
It's not a cardboard cutout or an AI or an animatronic.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I don't think purple. Tell me you don't like the case.
What is the next thing? What is the Seinfeld bit
that comes off of that?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
What?
Speaker 5 (02:15):
What?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
I think it's just the song.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Oh okay, me here real quick. Alan that the Mets suck,
I'll tell you what it isn't and Aaron Rodgers touchdown
feels good.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I'll tell you these teams, the Yankees look at the
Mets all of a sudden they're winning. Who are these people?
Little Francisco Lindor? How do they not get him? They
and all these other guys nobody can pitch? And they're
paying Gane carlost In three hundred million dollars a year.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
What's the deal of asking me if I want to
swim on Spirit airline?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I don't understand.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
They had it.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Hey, how much shod you hate Edwin Diaz out ten minute?
I'll tell you because I mean, you tweeted I hate
baseball and a man in a record time. Then I tweeted,
I love baseball because that's how well. But you hated
it and it really took you to the pits of despair.
And then you started tweeting at you like our guy
Todd Furman tweeted at mocking Braise fans like, don't be
(03:13):
that dude. Let me tell you, no, No, it's it's
the best and worst. I appreciate you became that guy.
No kidnapped when I had to watch Michael Harris standing
the dugout after Albi's big, big three run double and
he's doing the making fun of the Mets celebration when
you get a hit, I'm like, okay, how did that
work out for you?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
And I was okay with I was. I was okay
with that when I when I when I watched Solaire
slide dirty into Iglacis at third base and slide past
the bag in the second game. That's what the Brays do.
That's what the Braves are. It's what they did. So
I am absolutely okay with it. That's to the second
game and you might as well just quit. But buddy,
I'll tell you this, Pam says to me. I mean,
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Chris Sale gets scratched back spasms, I got some things
on some people that lost the bets because of that.
Let me tell you. But what are we gonna do?
Speaker 4 (04:01):
What?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
What are we gonna do? We got we gotta gotta rest.
We have a game tomorrow night. We got a playoff
game that matters, an opportunity to keep your phones. I
hope the Braves beach it. Oh, I would We're not
going to play them. No, I would have loved that
beat that ass I would stop. The Brewers won all
their games against this past weekend. Uh Pam says to
me when she goes, what's the lineup gonna be? I go,
you could there's gonna be guys playing that haven't played
(04:23):
inside I can't even tell you. And she looks at
the lineup and she goes, Wow, there's some of these
players I've never heard you talk about. I go, yeah,
that's what is. She goes, I got I got new
knees now because you got knee replacement a couple of years.
You think if I fly down to Atlanta to let
me play that the mensal put you right in the lineup?
Are you kidding? You play? You go go play third base.
You'll be great. Wow, you'll be awesome. Everything is awesome.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
And another grand slam by Askin.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah, well, well we'll see how that goes exactly. We'll
just wait.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
I mean we just saw how it went.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah. But but okay, it doesn't matter that.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Was two days ago any different. That was two days ago.
Why is it gonna be any because.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Now we're not going to pitch to him because that's
the last guy you want to pitch do I'm not
gonna bitch.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
One thing I didn't have was the Mets outlasting the Jets.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, well the Mets are the Mets are flying. The
Mets are flying me over the Jets to get to
the Knicks. That's kind of what's happened. Now, can you
fly me over?
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Yes, today you did have any wild, wild seventy two hours.
I mean, because Friday night was all about the still
to be completed Nicks trade that nobody could talk about.
So you had the pressers. Today you had the one
of the worst football games I've ever watched in that
Jets Denver game.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Oh it was terrible.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
That was just although one guy sitting at a table
at this restaurant bar that we went to, uh, did
have one of those giant Jets hats.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Oh you big ass. It's not quite a helmet, but
it might as well be based on its size. So
he was pretty excited until he wasn't.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Well, that was how I was.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
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(06:18):
So yeah, we'll get to the NFL games coming up
in a second. If you had a prop bet on
Jared Goff catching a touchdown, you're feeling pretty good right now.
But yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
Don't think anytime touchdowns, you know, you were expecting him
to throw one, and it doesn't count anytime touchdown you
got one. But yeah, right now a lot of salty
people that picked him up in fantasy.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
But let me just tell you that the Mets Braves
game today, Game one clearly the best game in Major
League Baseball all year. I mean, the the ups and downs.
You know, when I looked at the the the winning
percentage of that game, it was like, you know, the
Braves are at ninety, then the Mets are up at ninety,
then the Braves are at ninety. It was like bitcoin.
It was like, oh we're something. That was everything it
(07:01):
was to be a Mets fan. It was absolute, utter destroying.
I'm thinking, Okay, we're gonna have to play Game two
and it's gonna be awful. No, no, we're gonna win. No, No,
we gave it away, and of course Diaz gives it
away with a big double when he forgets to cover
first base. But then Lindor it's a home run that
changes the direction of the franchise. Because there's nothing else
I could say other than that. I mean, I don't
(07:22):
get days like this and that, and that's that's the
big thing about today, is that I don't get days
like this with my teams, hardly at all, and to
get and this is the first Mets day I've had
like this, probably in nearly ten years since the World Series.
I don't get days like I don't get any days
of it with the Jets. Obviously you did then you
got some Peaca on a Thursday night not long ago.
Everything that's just winning a regular playoff game. We beat
(07:49):
the Patriot the greatest. It was the game that night.
And that's what.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
No, No, you don't treat every Thursday.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
That was the way that that was the game. I
I don't get days like this where something like that happens,
where the Mets, who have operated like that for the
better part of my life, suddenly reverse it. And when Lindor,
as soon as he hit that ball, I watched I
said that's gone. That's oh my god, he didn't. Oh,
but you know what, I don't think, like he said
in his postgame interview that he was one hundred percent
(08:19):
sure he got it. I don't think he did either
that or that he's the calmest guy in the worlds. Well,
you saw the way he rounded the bait. That's kind
of who he is. That that was almost like a U.
What that was? Well, that's the thing, is that that
of a quiet The Mets and the Braves don't like
each other, as you can see, right. I told you
that all those guys were on the field and each
(08:39):
other and love each other. The Mets the Braves hate
each other, and I get that, But Lindor is Lindor
and the way he carries himself as different. Yeah, that
could have been a blank U trot. But this was
simply I hit it. I put my head down and
I rounded the basis like that's kind of that's kind
of how it is. And I knew as soon as
I said, he got it, because I knew if he
didn't get it, he would run out of the box
because he knew he hit it far. I said, oh
(09:00):
my god, he got didn't look and yell at the
at the dugout or anything else, and I said, oh
my god. My first thought was, is Daz really coming
out for the ninth inning again? Is he really gonna
come out for that? And apparently he told Carlos Mendoza,
I don't care what you do. I'm going out there
in the ninth Okay, that's where you let you know,
and that's where I get it. You let your players
go out there. And d Haz closed it out, slammed
his glove and my phone. It was like my birthday.
(09:23):
It was like my birthday, like, oh my look, the
text coming is like this is great. I'm just riding
this wave right now. Because again, I don't get days
like this, and it makes me crazy because I think, boy,
how big a sports fan I am When my teams
generally stink and they don't win hardly anything, and I
get one day like this every ten years, right, they
could go Look the Brewers it beat us five out
of six this year, just beat us pretty bad this weekend,
(09:45):
and bleeping Reese Hoskins is probably gonna two Grand Slams.
But like, I don't know, the last day I got
like this, that was this good, right, the Knicks a
little bit in the playoffs, right, maybe beating beating the
Sixers and coming from behind when they were losing and
to go up two zip. That really kind of clinched
that series against the Sixers. But before that, like, when's
the last time I got anything from the Knicks? One's
(10:07):
I got anything from the Jets? Mets, you're going back.
I mean, they eat their way into the wild card
two years ago, but they gave away the division lead
the entire year, So I gotta go back to the
to the World Series. I don't get there.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
I remember you with the World Series, and you know
that'll be an interesting couple of weeks if we have
to go through that again.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
The Knicks last year, you you got, you got.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
You got pretty chesty despite the early exit, because it
became all about, ah, we're all hurt, like that's the
way the way it goes. It should break your heart
that much more because you know how how close things
could have been if they were they were healthy.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Me. I I just accept losing at this point from
all my Chicago squads. Although the Bears beat the Rams yesterday,
so that was exciting because you actually saw them line
up under center go to jumbo package.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
I put it up on Twitter multiple times when they
when they didn't like, we're actually under center and running
the football. So yeah, in brief moments, I understand that excitement.
But you know us, we were going back and forth
on our text exchange. You know, here's some stories for
the show. But then all of a sudden, all right,
that eighth inning and ninth inning. It's about as insane
as it gets, right, I mean that that half hour
(11:13):
of sports sports, sports sports, Uh, this is what makes
makes you come to Fox Sports Radio or Fox Sports
One and watch and listen, because that's that's the best
of it, right, that's unscripted drama and about as good
as a get. Because your closer was never gonna get
to go back to New York that game after that
(11:34):
eighth inning, right, if that's how you guys go down
in the ninth.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Steve Cohen would have walked on the field with sixty
million dollars and said, you keep the rest of this
money and we're heading back. Here's a check to stay here,
you know, go, Because I.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Can only imagine what was coming out of your mouth
out there after they gave up the.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Runs when he and he doesn't cover first base.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
That was.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Im glad you brought it up, though, because that was
one of the things in the notes of Wow, how
lazy was that?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Like?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Does he didn't even make a step, Like there was
no effort.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
I was like, Ah, it's either fall or he's gonna
get it, Like I'm not even bothering.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Hey, Jason, who's that? Who's that bum that calls the
games for you guys?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Come on? Do what you mean?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Hollie?
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Really? Did you? Did you hear the home run? The
lind door home run? I'm not gonna play because I'm
not gonna waste people's time.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Stop.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Stop. It was so original, he said, Linsanity in New York?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Really really, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
What you go with?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Well, how well, I'm sure the I'm sure the the
Tradeingar paid today on insanity went away.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
Yeah, I'm sure it did. But isn't that the equivalent
of everything in Hollywood have? Let's just redo something that
worked before.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I Look, I'd like something a little bit better, but
I think this is lynd sanity. It's lynd l I
n d Lynn sanity, lin sanity. Just make sure you
you know get that, because I know I don't know
can he say Lynn sanity and not have to pay
any money. I'm sure it's Lynn sanity because you also
have to re up every year, like that's the thing
(13:04):
people forget right, you file the paperwork, but then if
you don't keep up. Yeah, maybe how we got Winnie
the Pooh in a as a as a murderous bear.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
You got people running them up with the steamboat Willie property, you.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Know, remnant domain. Now what does that mean? It means
we can make Winnie the Pooh a killer? All right,
it's pretty good. I haven't seen the sequels. Gonna kill
people with honey. He's gonna hit him over the head
with the jar honey and they're gonna choke door.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Doesn't even know who Jeremy Lynn is.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
It doesn't know. I don't care. I don't care. You
know what a horrible it was coming in the night
and put it over the fact.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
It's the greatest home run in Mets his I don't care.
It's one of them. You have the Wilmer Flores walking off.
I mean yeah, I mean, look, that's the best part
that the best and worst part about today was this
is one of the best METS wins. Of my lifetime.
I'm going almost you know, going back fi and that's
great and it's also terrible, Like really a home run
win in the end to get you in the plays,
one of your best wins. Yes it is, you've only
(14:01):
been to the plays?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
What is it is?
Speaker 1 (14:02):
The eleventh time? Yes, right, the eleventh time.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
As this history going back to you know, nineteen sixty two,
as we've talked about ad nauseium related to my squad
and the twenty twenty four Chicago White Sox.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
But oh, just exciting day.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
The fact that we then split and those poor sons
of guns in Arizona.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
That had their bags packed and we're just waiting.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
What do you think that the booze cart was like Okay,
as soon as the final out, it's like, all right, guys,
we might have to get on a plane, so take
it easy.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Not to hell with it. Here we go. I could
have told you after that first game Arizona, don't don't
even watch a second game doing it because the Braves
were dead. The only thing mid why the Braves were
able to win because the Mets were deader like that,
that's the only like the Braves are nothing left, but
the Mets just decided, listen, we don't care. They were
on the plane as soon as the game ended. They
were on the plane, right, Lindora is almost crying in
his postgame interview, they're hugging each other. DZ is going
(14:56):
crazy that they were on the plane already. So it's
like I felt bad by like, what are you gonna do?
You know, they kept it close. You kept it close
for a while. So the entireing they lost twelve nothing,
but what are you gonna do?
Speaker 5 (15:06):
That's true?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
What are you gonna that's true? They did, they didn't
get blown out quite so bad. I don't get days
like today. I get maybe one day every ten years.
And this was well. I mean, it's it's a hell
of a rebound from the low that you experienced with
the Jets yesterday. I mean, there's no question about that. Again,
that may have been may as well have been a
year ago. It doesn't matter. May probably does seem like
a lifetime ago.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
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Speaker 5 (15:44):
Well played.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
We have a lot of points. If you like points, hey,
we'll talk about the Lions the Seahawks. If you don't
like points, we'll talk about the other game. But all
the big news coming off a big week four in
the NFL. Keep it right here, Jason and Mike Fox
Sports Rate. Hello, everyone, did you get that email? Says
from the Timber and Mutumbo? Do not answer. My email
(16:08):
was hot on this crazy pit for I don't know
why didn't need to get it live.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
We'll remember that legend of the Kembe Mutumbo as well.
It's true now, Jason. If you do get an email
from him, it's definitely not him. Well it's too soon, man,
I'm just remembering him.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
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that we do for you every single night. So things
getting a little interesting in Miami. Three and a half
left to go, Dolphins getting the end zone, do not
get the two point conversion. They trail Tennessee now by ten. Meanwhile,
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Jared Goff just at Jamison Williams for a seventy yard touchdown,
and now it's a two touchdown lead for the Lions.
Thirty five twenty late in the third quarter. Yeah, it
is Fantasy Day. Just got a lot better time to
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it is Jason Lock and for a jay. What's happening? Man?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
What's going on? Gentlemen?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Well, look, I want to say this because you know watching,
you know, seeing the I mean the game that no
one's watching the Dolphins and the Titans, so we have
to you know, the other game is much more exciting.
I know that, you know, watching this game and seeing
the Dolphins offense struggle, I know how much flat to
a tongue of I low it gets for oh, he
doesn't have the arms. He does this. Uh, maybe he's
the MVP of the NFL, because Wow, the way this
(18:14):
offense looks without him, it's it's hard to make an
argument that maybe it's overrated. I mean, he's I mean,
you see what this is, all these weapons, and it's
really a difficult watch.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah, it's kind of shameful. Man. They obviously have two
elite wide receivers. They've got a scheme, you know, the
outside zone Shanahan run stretch scheme that is pretty tried
and true. They paid some money to some offensive lineman
and they're a joke. I mean they are. They're unwatchable.
(18:49):
I mean honestly, like even that drive they just scored
on and I was watching both games at once because
I'm waiting on a particular result on that other game.
But I don't say it because I'll probably change if
I say what I'm war. But it was like watching
the preciason football game, like even you know, for them
to be down that much and to be running that
much time off the clock, I'm just like, you know,
(19:11):
and Tyreek Hill's starting to lose his stuff on the
sidelines a little bit, like good luck keeping whatever someone
for that is left to be kept together down the stretch.
Like it just looks like it's a lost season already.
And I don't know, you know what that means? Who
were coming back if he comes back? I don't. I
(19:33):
don't you know, week six, week seven, week eight, whatever,
it might already look like a lost cause. And the
bloom is certainly off of McDaniels. Rose. Eh, he's got
no answers right now. I mean, it got some talent there,
and I know they're limited the quarterback position, but like
pel like Huntley has never won a football game before,
(19:55):
Like what's going on here? I mean, it's it's pathetic.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
How about you sent Tyreek Hill back to Kansasite? They
could use your receiver.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Well, I don't think they wan't one making that kind
of money, just you know, re upping with him. I
do think Kansas City will certainly be in the market
for a receiver, though I doubt it's Tyreek Kill, and
I don't I don't think they're gonna trade Tyree Kill.
They're gonna need Kyreek Kill for two down the road
or whoever the next quarterback is or whatever. But uh, yes, Uh,
(20:27):
they missed Jared McKinnon in the red zone and now
they're going to miss Rice all over the field. And
obviously Hollywood Brown is not going to play a snap
for them this year. So my dog is just losing
his stuff over here. I don't know what hoping up
picking up all that Anbia sound.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
But no, what what did he bet on? What?
Speaker 3 (20:43):
What?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
What? What's?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
No? What he's hacking up along over here? Uh so, yeah,
I mean Kristin Kirk. Not a few people whisper that.
To me, he looks like an Andy Reid receiver. Doesn't
he like what the Jags are cooked? Uh? I don't
think the Raiders would trade Davonte Adams there, but they're
(21:06):
going to do something I'm sure they always do well.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
That's the things you mentioned Devonte Adams, and after yesterday,
I think, oh, the Jets will absolutely overpay for Davonte Adams,
all the problems, all the guys with jobs on the
line at they'll overpay for Davonte Adams.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, like they might try to and they might do it,
but do you think I mean, that's not the answer. Now.
It's funny. I've had people say like, that's what what
he will want to do, like people who know what
he will will be Like this will go on for
a couple more weeks and they're going to keep getting
their asses kicked and the offense is an abject failure.
It's a joke, and Minnesota's going to suffocate them, and
(21:46):
Pittsburgh's gonna suffocate them, and the Bills are going to
suffocate them. And then that takes us up to the
deadline and they probably will panic and do something stupid.
But it's it's not gonna like Darre Wilson's a good
receiver right now, like they've got an Amber one receiver
got less targets this year through four games than than
he did last year through four games. He got less catches,
got way less yards. Like I'm old enough to remember
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Breze Hall running for six yards to carry the first
month of last season with old stifflers at quarterback. Like,
you know, but he's averaging now three point one like
the quarterbacks, throwing twenty five percent of his passes to
the running backs. Okay, like only that's like bottom two
in the NFL, like bottom of the barrel, pushing the
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ball twenty five yards or more downfield. It is what
it is he's complaining about the weather. Dude. To four
games last year, they averaged four point seven yards per play.
What do you think they're averaging through four games this year?
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Four point seven?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Four point eight? So there you go. That's your fifty
million dollars quarterback.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Jason in Baltimore.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
There how much chestiness after last night's stumping of the Bills.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I mean it was it was obviously and emphatic win. Right,
That wasn't just your typical even for you know, a
team with a good home field advantage playing in primetime.
That doesn't happen all the time. Buffalo Bills were playing
great football, and they got absolutely manhandled across the board.
(23:22):
And if you don't want to like the wayst Ravens
Thingers aligned right now, Like, if you don't have heavy
personnel to match up in the box when they run
at you with you know, two tight ends and the
fullback end Derrick Henry and you don't want to blitze
like crazy, then then you're probably in trouble, like you
(23:43):
might no numbers might not work for you defensively, and
they never did for Buffalo last night. And you know,
I don't know, like defensively, that looked like Mike McDonald
last night, that look like Zach Orr found Mike McDonald's
old playbook and call sheet and they had all the answers. Well,
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they can run the football anything close to this, guys
like that defense is not gonna be on the field
that much. Like it's it's just, you know, it's nuts
what they're doing on the ground. You're running backs counted
for over three hundred scrimmage yards in that game.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, you know, the thing Jay that I that I
don't get is that and I thinking about this last night,
is that for the last few years, it's been got
to get Lamar playmakers at wide receiver, right and the
failure to do that, they can't get him, you know,
they fly, they can't get them. They can't get him. Meanwhile,
it's like, no, no, no, just get me a running
back we can rely on that doesn't get hurt that
I can give the ball to. And suddenly this offense
(24:43):
looks it looks like it's it's better than it's ever
been because and maybe that's what they needed. We get
somebody who's a big threat running the ball. It's not
about getting the guys for Lamar to throw downfield too,
it's it's going the other way. And it's like, oh, man,
have you just done this like four or five years ago,
just like what could have happened?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Well, yeah, I mean I don't think you were getting
your hands on Derek Henry four or five years ago,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (25:04):
That was not somebody else, another bell Count running back.
Yet it would have been better.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Well, I think that's what JK. Dobbins would have been
if he'd stayed healthy, you know, like I think remember
how few games he played And honestly, at that point
in his career, Lamar refused to chuck down. He refused
to embrace the horizontal pass game, so Dobbins would be
frustrated because he'd be wide open and in the flank
and Lamar would just keep it himself. Now. I mean
he's had even nine for nine to running backs in
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that game. I mean, Justice Hill's got more receiving yards
than Jon Robinson through the season so far. Like he's
a thing. So yeah, I think, you know, I think
Dobbins could have been that guy. He just he was
never healthy. But they've got something really special cooking here
with that three headed monster in the backfield, and they
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started hitting the staking a few shots under center, Jack
Upsite under center played action at heavy personnel twenty twenty
one and twenty twenty two personnel, Like they started unlocking
that a little bit. In that game. They had the
big one to likely for twenty six and then Andrews
was wide open on the next play and dropped one.
But I think that's the next step in the revolution
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is if you're a fantasy player, you have their tight ends.
I wouldn't bail on them yet, Like I think Cincinnati
Washington these next couple of games, I think the tight
ends are going to start showing up more downfield because
you're gonna have to totally sell out to try to
stop the run. You know, all the misdirection and all
the power and everything they've got going on on the
run game.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
See there you go, guys, the by low because the
pancake blocks aren't showing up in the box score.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
All right, last one. I could either do that Joe
Flacco is.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Still elite or Jaydon Daniels in the first four weeks
of magnificence.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Choose your own adventure.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I mean I co signed both. You know, Flacco coming
and cold in that game and scoring. You know, it's
just like he left right picked up right where he
left off in Cleveland. I mean, if the Browns had
kept him, just think about that. Yeah, I mean to
think where they would be versus what where they are
with that moot quarterback who is just and he's a loser.
(27:12):
You're not winning anything with Deshaun Watson. And everybody in
that organization knows that except for maybe the owner. And yeah,
this Jadon Daniels thing is legit. Like there's nothing like
Sony about this, Like, yeah, we can quibble about who
he's played our debts and YadA, YadA, YadA, But I
mean he made Kylin Murrayskylin Murgans like football. Yes, like
(27:35):
it was it was one way traffic. It was all
Jayden Daniels all the time, and there's still not that
much volume in the past game yet. I mean, there's
there's some potential for some crazy stuff there.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
He's on Twitter at Jason Locke and four. That is
at Jason Locke and four. Check them out, honesty one,
O five seven the fan in Baltimore, Washington Post. Jay
is always buddy, appreciate it. Have fun in the playoffs
with the Orioles. We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Sound about it?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
All right, there goes Jason locking for ready for the
gotta be ready for the playoffs. Got ready to go?
Speaker 6 (28:08):
I saw they they gave you the template the Orioles
did on social media in case you need to bag off.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
School or work. Yeah, yeah, no, it's nice talking about
you have to be at the yard.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Yeah, at the yard.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
You're gonna be in the yard for some work. Oh okay,
that works, the yard for some work.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
We got lots of lots of points to talk about,
none of them between the Titans and the Dolphins, but
plenty between the Lions and the Seahawks. But speaking of
big plays, Steve Desaga will of course begin with the
biggest play of maybe the last ten years in sports,
Francisco Lindora's ninth inning home run to put the Mets
in the playoffs. Steve do do do do Hi. I
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don't think that's work. I'll do my Steve disagre depression. No, no, no,
you know. I do have a quote from the great
baseball statistician Sarah Langs hope. She had a good one
on the Mets today. The Mets are great. There we go,
there's Steve O.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
There we go. Yeah, we'll get to that little game later.
There are two NFL games right now, and at Detroit.
It's not over early fourth quarter, Allions thirty five twenty
seven over Seattle. Kenneth Walker, playing after an oblique injury.
Third touchdown run just now twelve carries eighty yards for
him Gino Smith two hundred and ninety yards passing in
(29:29):
a score, but Jared Goff is leading, and the Lions
quarterback is fifteen for fifteen through the air two hundred
and twenty five yards and a touchdown. Amen Ross Saint
Brown has also thrown a touchdown pass to Jared Goff
two minute warning, mercifully, and the Tennessee Titans are leading
at Miami twenty four to twelve. Looks like the Dolphins
will fall to one and three. Tyler Huntley was the
(29:52):
quarterback tonight, twelve of twenty eighty one yards passing and
an early fumble. And it's Mason Rudolph for most of
the game at QB for Tennessee as Will Levis started
but left early with a shoulder injury. Tony Pollard eighty
five yards rushing. Taja Spears only thirty nine yards on
the ground, but he has a touchdown. The star of
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the night, and this one has been the Titans kicker
Nick Folk. Five for five on field goals and he's
hit from fifty one, fifty two, and fifty three yards out.
Basketball Hall of Famer de Kembe Matumbo died of brain cancer.
He was fifty eight. Cincinnati Red's legend Pete Rose died
he was eighty three. The San Francisco Giants fired team
president far Hanxiety and replaced him with Buster Posey. At
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the MLB All Star Game, players will now wear their
own team's uniforms, as it always used to be through
twenty nineteen. In Major League Baseball, an incredible game to
open a makeup doubleheader at Atlanta today. The Mets trailed
three nothing in the eighth, scored six times in the
top of the eighth, gave up four runs in the
bottom of the eighth ye and still won the game
(30:57):
eight seven over the Braves on a two run home
in the top of the ninth by Francisco Lindor. The
Mets are in a playoff berth. They'll play at Milwaukee tomorrow.
The Braves clinched their playoff berth with a game two win,
three to nothing. Even though Braves pitcher Chris Saal was
scratched due to backspasms, He's likely out this week. Arizona
was eliminated. Tomorrow night, the Braves start a best of
(31:20):
three in San Diego.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
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We lost two big time players today in the annals
of history in the NBA and Major League Baseball. The
legacies of both of them both great and complex. That's
coming up next right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
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Speaker 1 (32:26):
Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.
It's over in Tennessee. They thumped the Dolphins thirty one
to twelve. Meanwhile, the Seahawks trying to get back in
it against the Lions and they are driving now down
eight thirty five twenty seven, still ten minutes to go
(32:46):
in the fourth quarter in this one. Ge no, g no.
We have more football coming up in about ten minutes.
But look today at a big double shock. You know
you probably woke up and saw the news to Ken
Bamtumbo passed away at the age of fifty eight from
brain cancer. And then shortly after the last game of
the baseball season regular season, shortly after the Mets and
the Braves played their doubleheader, we found out Pete Rose
(33:09):
passed away at the age of eighty three. There is
not a lot of details right now. Apparently he was
found by a family friend. They don't suspect any foul play,
but it was sudden for Pete Rose. Now, the big
thing is obviously Pete Rose had a very complex legacy
and it's not just about the gambling. But to get
us into this story, because I got to tell you
(33:29):
there his last few years could have been really, really different.
This was him recently from the Brett Boone podcast when
he's asked about his chance to potentially getting in the
Baseball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
You think you think Cooper sounds going to happen one
day eventually, Yeah, but I'll be dead.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah wait, wait do I die?
Speaker 2 (33:49):
And I didn't know, change of heart and put me
on the list and I go from there.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
So that there was I mean, how chilling does that sound?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
You know?
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Think about that from a while ago. Look Pete's legacy
from the gambling to where he is not being the
Hall of Famer. I'll tell you this, Pete Rose would
be a Hall of Famer if the scandal from the
seventies didn't come up five or six years ago, where
when he was thirty four years old he was dating
(34:21):
an underage girl who was sixteen ish years all the time,
there was a big discrepancy as to how old she was.
This came up years ago, year, a few years ago,
and not you know, thirty years ago because of something
that was said in an interview and Pete Rose sued
the guy who said, oh, Pete Rose was dating a
fifteen year old girl, and this brought everything up again.
Pete Rose is then't let go from his TV role
(34:42):
at Fox, which at that point was the new high
point of his career because the TV show with him
and A Rod and Frank Thomas was terrific, fantastic. Watching
him and A Rod talk about hitting was incredible, right,
It was incredible just seeing them back and forth, just
really quick things about hitting. It was like it was
it was incredible. The show really had a lot of buzz.
It was a great show, but when this controversy comes up,
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it's okay, you were thirty four, you were dating a
girl who was sixteen. He gets let go, and that
was the last thing for him, because if that doesn't
come up, right, if that doesn't come up, then he's
in the Hall of Fame now, because the last few
years there would have been that push of, well, look
how close sports are to gambling. Now look at the
NFL and gambling. Do we really need to do this?
(35:27):
Has Pete served his time and we can let him
in And there would have been a big outcry for
Pete Rose to be in the Hall of Fame, and
I'm pretty sure he would have gotten it. Now you
actually have the commissioners who were yes or no, want
but they understand that, hey, this is a big player.
It's a big thing to celebrate him. And with the
way our attitudes are about gamble now, clearly you can't
(35:47):
gamble on your own team and can't gamble he was playing,
he was a player manager, he was gambling. Well, we
see guys now the gamble in the NFL. They get
one year suspensions, right, It's like Pete's been suspended for
thirty five years, right, See these guys get one year
suspensions if they're gambling on games and they weren't supposed to.
So I think without that scandal, if that doesn't come
to light, he's in the Hall of Fame. Now.
Speaker 6 (36:09):
Well, if they hadn't, if he'd done any of that
in the Rob Manford era, he just shrugged and moved on.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
But yeah, yeah, you got rewarded in the Rob Manford.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
I mean, obviously the allegations related to the underage woman
girl at the time I think certainly complicates mattered. I
don't know that you'd had the ground swell to get
him in even with the change in terms of gambling,
because he still was the face of hey, this is wrong.
(36:40):
So whatever the CBA was in the NFL and the
rules of regulation different than Major League Baseball. I always wondered,
if Bartlett Giamatti didn't die a Bartlett Giamatti didn't die
in nineteen eighty nine, how long the lifetime ban would
have been. Yeah, if he'd lived a few more years.
But that's like the last thing he did death note
(37:01):
as commissioner before passing away. So it becomes the well,
you got whatever talks they had, you got to leave
it at that, right.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
So I'm still gambling. At that point was still you can't.
No matter what you do in baseball, you can't gamble.
That was the whole thing. Now, I mean, look at
where the landscape is now in twenty twenty four. Everybody
gambles on anything. Players can gamble on on games. Just
can't gamble on your own team. You can't gamble from
your where you practice. But other than that, the rules
are pretty but again that's NFL. The rules are pretty.
League baseball still has the same but with the general
(37:31):
with the general acceptance of gambling now where it wasn't
where it was always in the shadows before and it
was illegal and who knew what was happening it would
have been because I think there was a there was
there was a much bigger push of Pete's done his time.
Pete's done his time for this. It's been so many years,
and I know he lived a lot of his life
with the hey, I'm the best player not in the
Hall of Fame, and that was a big deal. But
(37:52):
you hear him talk he would have given everything to.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
Be a Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Wow, I mean he would have given for everything back
for a number of reasons, right, one that adulation that
goes with being able to give the speech being enshrined.
Speaker 6 (38:02):
But let's call it what it is. Pete was a
businessman with all of this too. He recognized and I
heard him say a time and time again, how many
millions of dollars not being in the Hall of Fame
cost him all the endorsement opportunities and the inscriptions for
all the autographs that you would sign over, Because that
would have been nineteen eighty eight. You're talking thirty six
years of signatures for an extra fifty to one hundred
(38:23):
bucks a pop to say hof whatever the year was. So,
I mean there was a huge financial cost to all
of it, as well as reputation and history. Look, he's
in the Hall of Fame because they've had the artifacts there.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
I've seen them on multiple occasions.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
Used to spend a lot of time at the Hall
of Fame when I was in the Northeast. But the
fact of the matter is that, you know, you get
to this point, it's unfortunate that you know, he never
got to have that day, but you broke what is
the cardinal rule of baseball?
Speaker 1 (38:55):
And I get it. It's it's muddy water. Now that
they've embraced billion dollars of ads and all of the
different participation they're in, whether it's just down the street,
the building next door, or whatever.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
I get it. It's changed. But like that part, I
don't know that we've hit.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
That part with baseball writers yet, that where we have
that tipping point of accomplishment versus while I was on
the beat when this all happened, and I have to
keep him out again. It's been so long, I don't
know how many of those writers still hold sway. I
(39:32):
don't know how many of those guys from thirty five
years ago were still are still voters are still there still.
Speaker 6 (39:37):
They kept all the guys they didn't like that were
quasi steroid allegation.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
So that was still late two thousands. I mean you're
talking about that's fifteen years ago. You're talking about I'm
going back forty years where people like, wow, okay, this
is a long time ago. This is before I even
knew anything about baseball. He signed off on a lifetime ban,
though exit out about a Fresco exit. Swallendome will have
more on the complicated legacy of Pete Rose. We got
to kep him tumbo as well, and now Things getting
even more interesting in Detroit when it comes down to
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the end of the game between the Lions and the Seahawks.
That's next right here, Plus a different choice for NFL
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Radio Knarco five second Dance Party. Did you really just
start doing the sprinkler thing?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I did tell Alan that the Mets suck.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
You still can't just get it clean? No, from the office, No,
you get Oh, it's better that way. You get it
from the YouTube video that goes right into a Seinfeld thing.
So it's we get double the funny. You can't just
play the tell allan, No, no, no, we're gonna play it.
So it's the beginning of the next video, which is signed.
Have you never seen Forrest Gump?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Yeah, remember when he's running and the guy wipes his
face with it and he makes like the happy face thing.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
It was an accident.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, No, that's an accident.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
This this is better because it accidentally seinfelt.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
This. This is you just being lazy and not going wow, Wow,
I'm Steve carellzing. Did you just do that?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
We're two minutes into the show and you're calling my
man lazi? Hell kind of day is it gonna be?
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Now?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I am getting trolled on the greatest day of my life?
How did you get trolled? This is.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Jason? Guess what?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
I had many touchdowns as Aaron Rodgers did yesterday. You
feel good about that?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Hey? That that was yesterday? Hey, you guys exchanged hat
was off? I'd like to reset. How was yesterday?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Mike?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
He came in here and pushed me. We have whoa
we are going back. We have no cadence problem. So
there's a lot of days problems. Look at him, his
eyes are wide. You've besmirched his name. Two minutes in
I did not. You called him lazy, So I said,
what what the he is a lazy thing? He's there.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
It's not a cardboard cutout or an AI or an animatronic.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I don't think purple. Tell me you don't like the case.
What is the next thing? What is the Seinfeld bit
that comes off of that?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
What?
Speaker 5 (02:15):
What?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
I think it's just the song.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Oh okay, me here real quick. Alan that the Mets suck,
I'll tell you what it isn't and Aaron Rodgers touchdown
feels good.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I'll tell you these teams, the Yankees look at the
Mets all of a sudden they're winning. Who are these people?
Little Francisco Lindor? How do they not get him? They
and all these other guys nobody can pitch? And they're
paying Gane carlost In three hundred million dollars a year.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
What's the deal of asking me if I want to
swim on Spirit airline?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I don't understand.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
They had it.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Hey, how much shod you hate Edwin Diaz out ten minute?
I'll tell you because I mean, you tweeted I hate
baseball and a man in a record time. Then I tweeted,
I love baseball because that's how well. But you hated
it and it really took you to the pits of despair.
And then you started tweeting at you like our guy
Todd Furman tweeted at mocking Braise fans like, don't be
(03:13):
that dude. Let me tell you, no, No, it's it's
the best and worst. I appreciate you became that guy.
No kidnapped when I had to watch Michael Harris standing
the dugout after Albi's big, big three run double and
he's doing the making fun of the Mets celebration when
you get a hit, I'm like, okay, how did that
work out for you?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
And I was okay with I was. I was okay
with that when I when I when I watched Solaire
slide dirty into Iglacis at third base and slide past
the bag in the second game. That's what the Brays do.
That's what the Braves are. It's what they did. So
I am absolutely okay with it. That's to the second
game and you might as well just quit. But buddy,
I'll tell you this, Pam says to me. I mean,
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Chris Sale gets scratched back spasms, I got some things
on some people that lost the bets because of that.
Let me tell you. But what are we gonna do?
Speaker 4 (04:01):
What?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
What are we gonna do? We got we gotta gotta rest.
We have a game tomorrow night. We got a playoff
game that matters, an opportunity to keep your phones. I
hope the Braves beach it. Oh, I would We're not
going to play them. No, I would have loved that
beat that ass I would stop. The Brewers won all
their games against this past weekend. Uh Pam says to
me when she goes, what's the lineup gonna be? I go,
you could there's gonna be guys playing that haven't played
(04:23):
inside I can't even tell you. And she looks at
the lineup and she goes, Wow, there's some of these
players I've never heard you talk about. I go, yeah,
that's what is. She goes, I got I got new
knees now because you got knee replacement a couple of years.
You think if I fly down to Atlanta to let
me play that the mensal put you right in the lineup?
Are you kidding? You play? You go go play third base.
You'll be great. Wow, you'll be awesome. Everything is awesome.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
And another grand slam by Askin.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah, well, well we'll see how that goes exactly. We'll
just wait.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
I mean we just saw how it went.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah. But but okay, it doesn't matter that.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Was two days ago any different. That was two days ago.
Why is it gonna be any because.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Now we're not going to pitch to him because that's
the last guy you want to pitch do I'm not
gonna bitch.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
One thing I didn't have was the Mets outlasting the Jets.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, well the Mets are the Mets are flying. The
Mets are flying me over the Jets to get to
the Knicks. That's kind of what's happened. Now, can you
fly me over?
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Yes, today you did have any wild, wild seventy two hours.
I mean, because Friday night was all about the still
to be completed Nicks trade that nobody could talk about.
So you had the pressers. Today you had the one
of the worst football games I've ever watched in that
Jets Denver game.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Oh it was terrible.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
That was just although one guy sitting at a table
at this restaurant bar that we went to, uh, did
have one of those giant Jets hats.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Oh you big ass. It's not quite a helmet, but
it might as well be based on its size. So
he was pretty excited until he wasn't.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Well, that was how I was.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I was excited till I was Yeah, but was ago
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(06:18):
So yeah, we'll get to the NFL games coming up
in a second. If you had a prop bet on
Jared Goff catching a touchdown, you're feeling pretty good right now.
But yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
Don't think anytime touchdowns, you know, you were expecting him
to throw one, and it doesn't count anytime touchdown you
got one. But yeah, right now a lot of salty
people that picked him up in fantasy.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
But let me just tell you that the Mets Braves
game today, Game one clearly the best game in Major
League Baseball all year. I mean, the the ups and downs.
You know, when I looked at the the the winning
percentage of that game, it was like, you know, the
Braves are at ninety, then the Mets are up at ninety,
then the Braves are at ninety. It was like bitcoin.
It was like, oh we're something. That was everything it
(07:01):
was to be a Mets fan. It was absolute, utter destroying.
I'm thinking, Okay, we're gonna have to play Game two
and it's gonna be awful. No, no, we're gonna win. No, No,
we gave it away, and of course Diaz gives it
away with a big double when he forgets to cover
first base. But then Lindor it's a home run that
changes the direction of the franchise. Because there's nothing else
I could say other than that. I mean, I don't
(07:22):
get days like this and that, and that's that's the
big thing about today, is that I don't get days
like this with my teams, hardly at all, and to
get and this is the first Mets day I've had
like this, probably in nearly ten years since the World Series.
I don't get days like I don't get any days
of it with the Jets. Obviously you did then you
got some Peaca on a Thursday night not long ago.
Everything that's just winning a regular playoff game. We beat
(07:49):
the Patriot the greatest. It was the game that night.
And that's what.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
No, No, you don't treat every Thursday.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
That was the way that that was the game. I
I don't get days like this where something like that happens,
where the Mets, who have operated like that for the
better part of my life, suddenly reverse it. And when Lindor,
as soon as he hit that ball, I watched I
said that's gone. That's oh my god, he didn't. Oh,
but you know what, I don't think, like he said
in his postgame interview that he was one hundred percent
(08:19):
sure he got it. I don't think he did either
that or that he's the calmest guy in the worlds. Well,
you saw the way he rounded the bait. That's kind
of who he is. That that was almost like a U.
What that was? Well, that's the thing, is that that
of a quiet The Mets and the Braves don't like
each other, as you can see, right. I told you
that all those guys were on the field and each
(08:39):
other and love each other. The Mets the Braves hate
each other, and I get that, But Lindor is Lindor
and the way he carries himself as different. Yeah, that
could have been a blank U trot. But this was
simply I hit it. I put my head down and
I rounded the basis like that's kind of that's kind
of how it is. And I knew as soon as
I said, he got it, because I knew if he
didn't get it, he would run out of the box
because he knew he hit it far. I said, oh
(09:00):
my god, he got didn't look and yell at the
at the dugout or anything else, and I said, oh
my god. My first thought was, is Daz really coming
out for the ninth inning again? Is he really gonna
come out for that? And apparently he told Carlos Mendoza,
I don't care what you do. I'm going out there
in the ninth Okay, that's where you let you know,
and that's where I get it. You let your players
go out there. And d Haz closed it out, slammed
his glove and my phone. It was like my birthday.
(09:23):
It was like my birthday, like, oh my look, the
text coming is like this is great. I'm just riding
this wave right now. Because again, I don't get days
like this, and it makes me crazy because I think, boy,
how big a sports fan I am When my teams
generally stink and they don't win hardly anything, and I
get one day like this every ten years, right, they
could go Look the Brewers it beat us five out
of six this year, just beat us pretty bad this weekend,
(09:45):
and bleeping Reese Hoskins is probably gonna two Grand Slams.
But like, I don't know, the last day I got
like this, that was this good, right, the Knicks a
little bit in the playoffs, right, maybe beating beating the
Sixers and coming from behind when they were losing and
to go up two zip. That really kind of clinched
that series against the Sixers. But before that, like, when's
the last time I got anything from the Knicks? One's
(10:07):
I got anything from the Jets? Mets, you're going back.
I mean, they eat their way into the wild card
two years ago, but they gave away the division lead
the entire year, So I gotta go back to the
to the World Series. I don't get there.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
I remember you with the World Series, and you know
that'll be an interesting couple of weeks if we have
to go through that again.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
The Knicks last year, you you got, you got.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
You got pretty chesty despite the early exit, because it
became all about, ah, we're all hurt, like that's the
way the way it goes. It should break your heart
that much more because you know how how close things
could have been if they were they were healthy.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Me. I I just accept losing at this point from
all my Chicago squads. Although the Bears beat the Rams yesterday,
so that was exciting because you actually saw them line
up under center go to jumbo package.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
I put it up on Twitter multiple times when they
when they didn't like, we're actually under center and running
the football. So yeah, in brief moments, I understand that excitement.
But you know us, we were going back and forth
on our text exchange. You know, here's some stories for
the show. But then all of a sudden, all right,
that eighth inning and ninth inning. It's about as insane
as it gets, right, I mean that that half hour
(11:13):
of sports sports, sports sports, Uh, this is what makes
makes you come to Fox Sports Radio or Fox Sports
One and watch and listen, because that's that's the best
of it, right, that's unscripted drama and about as good
as a get. Because your closer was never gonna get
to go back to New York that game after that
(11:34):
eighth inning, right, if that's how you guys go down
in the ninth.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Steve Cohen would have walked on the field with sixty
million dollars and said, you keep the rest of this
money and we're heading back. Here's a check to stay here,
you know, go, Because I.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Can only imagine what was coming out of your mouth
out there after they gave up the.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Runs when he and he doesn't cover first base.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
That was.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Im glad you brought it up, though, because that was
one of the things in the notes of Wow, how
lazy was that?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Like?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Does he didn't even make a step, Like there was
no effort.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
I was like, Ah, it's either fall or he's gonna
get it, Like I'm not even bothering.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Hey, Jason, who's that? Who's that bum that calls the
games for you guys?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Come on? Do what you mean?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Hollie?
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Really? Did you? Did you hear the home run? The
lind door home run? I'm not gonna play because I'm
not gonna waste people's time.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Stop.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Stop. It was so original, he said, Linsanity in New York?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Really really, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
What you go with?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Well, how well, I'm sure the I'm sure the the
Tradeingar paid today on insanity went away.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
Yeah, I'm sure it did. But isn't that the equivalent
of everything in Hollywood have? Let's just redo something that
worked before.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I Look, I'd like something a little bit better, but
I think this is lynd sanity. It's lynd l I
n d Lynn sanity, lin sanity. Just make sure you
you know get that, because I know I don't know
can he say Lynn sanity and not have to pay
any money. I'm sure it's Lynn sanity because you also
have to re up every year, like that's the thing
(13:04):
people forget right, you file the paperwork, but then if
you don't keep up. Yeah, maybe how we got Winnie
the Pooh in a as a as a murderous bear.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
You got people running them up with the steamboat Willie property, you.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Know, remnant domain. Now what does that mean? It means
we can make Winnie the Pooh a killer? All right,
it's pretty good. I haven't seen the sequels. Gonna kill
people with honey. He's gonna hit him over the head
with the jar honey and they're gonna choke door.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Doesn't even know who Jeremy Lynn is.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
It doesn't know. I don't care. I don't care. You
know what a horrible it was coming in the night
and put it over the fact.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
It's the greatest home run in Mets his I don't care.
It's one of them. You have the Wilmer Flores walking off.
I mean yeah, I mean, look, that's the best part
that the best and worst part about today was this
is one of the best METS wins. Of my lifetime.
I'm going almost you know, going back fi and that's
great and it's also terrible, Like really a home run
win in the end to get you in the plays,
one of your best wins. Yes it is, you've only
(14:01):
been to the plays?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
What is it is?
Speaker 1 (14:02):
The eleventh time? Yes, right, the eleventh time.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
As this history going back to you know, nineteen sixty two,
as we've talked about ad nauseium related to my squad
and the twenty twenty four Chicago White Sox.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
But oh, just exciting day.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
The fact that we then split and those poor sons
of guns in Arizona.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
That had their bags packed and we're just waiting.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
What do you think that the booze cart was like Okay,
as soon as the final out, it's like, all right, guys,
we might have to get on a plane, so take
it easy.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Not to hell with it. Here we go. I could
have told you after that first game Arizona, don't don't
even watch a second game doing it because the Braves
were dead. The only thing mid why the Braves were
able to win because the Mets were deader like that,
that's the only like the Braves are nothing left, but
the Mets just decided, listen, we don't care. They were
on the plane as soon as the game ended. They
were on the plane, right, Lindora is almost crying in
his postgame interview, they're hugging each other. DZ is going
(14:56):
crazy that they were on the plane already. So it's
like I felt bad by like, what are you gonna do?
You know, they kept it close. You kept it close
for a while. So the entireing they lost twelve nothing,
but what are you gonna do?
Speaker 5 (15:06):
That's true?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
What are you gonna that's true? They did, they didn't
get blown out quite so bad. I don't get days
like today. I get maybe one day every ten years.
And this was well. I mean, it's it's a hell
of a rebound from the low that you experienced with
the Jets yesterday. I mean, there's no question about that. Again,
that may have been may as well have been a
year ago. It doesn't matter. May probably does seem like
a lifetime ago.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Huh.
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Speaker 5 (15:44):
Well played.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
We have a lot of points. If you like points, hey,
we'll talk about the Lions the Seahawks. If you don't
like points, we'll talk about the other game. But all
the big news coming off a big week four in
the NFL. Keep it right here, Jason and Mike Fox
Sports Rate. Hello, everyone, did you get that email? Says
from the Timber and Mutumbo? Do not answer. My email
(16:08):
was hot on this crazy pit for I don't know
why didn't need to get it live.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
We'll remember that legend of the Kembe Mutumbo as well.
It's true now, Jason. If you do get an email
from him, it's definitely not him. Well it's too soon, man,
I'm just remembering him.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
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Mike Harmon, wherever you get your podcast it is there,
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your support. Mike and I love doing all this content
that we do for you every single night. So things
getting a little interesting in Miami. Three and a half
left to go, Dolphins getting the end zone, do not
get the two point conversion. They trail Tennessee now by ten. Meanwhile,
(17:22):
Jared Goff just at Jamison Williams for a seventy yard touchdown,
and now it's a two touchdown lead for the Lions.
Thirty five twenty late in the third quarter. Yeah, it
is Fantasy Day. Just got a lot better time to
break down all the big news in the NFL. Joining
us now on the hotline, Nobody Better, Odyssey, Washington Post,
(17:42):
one of five seven the fan in Baltimore, Friend of
the show. He's on Twitter at Jason lock and four
it is Jason Lock and for a jay. What's happening? Man?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
What's going on? Gentlemen?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Well, look, I want to say this because you know watching,
you know, seeing the I mean the game that no
one's watching the Dolphins and the Titans, so we have
to you know, the other game is much more exciting.
I know that, you know, watching this game and seeing
the Dolphins offense struggle, I know how much flat to
a tongue of I low it gets for oh, he
doesn't have the arms. He does this. Uh, maybe he's
the MVP of the NFL, because Wow, the way this
(18:14):
offense looks without him, it's it's hard to make an
argument that maybe it's overrated. I mean, he's I mean,
you see what this is, all these weapons, and it's
really a difficult watch.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah, it's kind of shameful. Man. They obviously have two
elite wide receivers. They've got a scheme, you know, the
outside zone Shanahan run stretch scheme that is pretty tried
and true. They paid some money to some offensive lineman
and they're a joke. I mean they are. They're unwatchable.
(18:49):
I mean honestly, like even that drive they just scored
on and I was watching both games at once because
I'm waiting on a particular result on that other game.
But I don't say it because I'll probably change if
I say what I'm war. But it was like watching
the preciason football game, like even you know, for them
to be down that much and to be running that
much time off the clock, I'm just like, you know,
(19:11):
and Tyreek Hill's starting to lose his stuff on the
sidelines a little bit, like good luck keeping whatever someone
for that is left to be kept together down the stretch.
Like it just looks like it's a lost season already.
And I don't know, you know what that means? Who
were coming back if he comes back? I don't. I
(19:33):
don't you know, week six, week seven, week eight, whatever,
it might already look like a lost cause. And the
bloom is certainly off of McDaniels. Rose. Eh, he's got
no answers right now. I mean, it got some talent there,
and I know they're limited the quarterback position, but like
pel like Huntley has never won a football game before,
(19:55):
Like what's going on here? I mean, it's it's pathetic.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
How about you sent Tyreek Hill back to Kansasite? They
could use your receiver.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Well, I don't think they wan't one making that kind
of money, just you know, re upping with him. I
do think Kansas City will certainly be in the market
for a receiver, though I doubt it's Tyreek Kill, and
I don't I don't think they're gonna trade Tyree Kill.
They're gonna need Kyreek Kill for two down the road
or whoever the next quarterback is or whatever. But uh, yes, Uh,
(20:27):
they missed Jared McKinnon in the red zone and now
they're going to miss Rice all over the field. And
obviously Hollywood Brown is not going to play a snap
for them this year. So my dog is just losing
his stuff over here. I don't know what hoping up
picking up all that Anbia sound.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
But no, what what did he bet on? What?
Speaker 3 (20:43):
What?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
What? What's?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
No? What he's hacking up along over here? Uh so, yeah,
I mean Kristin Kirk. Not a few people whisper that.
To me, he looks like an Andy Reid receiver. Doesn't
he like what the Jags are cooked? Uh? I don't
think the Raiders would trade Davonte Adams there, but they're
(21:06):
going to do something I'm sure they always do well.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
That's the things you mentioned Devonte Adams, and after yesterday,
I think, oh, the Jets will absolutely overpay for Davonte Adams,
all the problems, all the guys with jobs on the
line at they'll overpay for Davonte Adams.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, like they might try to and they might do it,
but do you think I mean, that's not the answer. Now.
It's funny. I've had people say like, that's what what
he will want to do, like people who know what
he will will be Like this will go on for
a couple more weeks and they're going to keep getting
their asses kicked and the offense is an abject failure.
It's a joke, and Minnesota's going to suffocate them, and
(21:46):
Pittsburgh's gonna suffocate them, and the Bills are going to
suffocate them. And then that takes us up to the
deadline and they probably will panic and do something stupid.
But it's it's not gonna like Darre Wilson's a good
receiver right now, like they've got an Amber one receiver
got less targets this year through four games than than
he did last year through four games. He got less catches,
got way less yards. Like I'm old enough to remember
(22:10):
Breze Hall running for six yards to carry the first
month of last season with old stifflers at quarterback. Like,
you know, but he's averaging now three point one like
the quarterbacks, throwing twenty five percent of his passes to
the running backs. Okay, like only that's like bottom two
in the NFL, like bottom of the barrel, pushing the
(22:32):
ball twenty five yards or more downfield. It is what
it is he's complaining about the weather. Dude. To four
games last year, they averaged four point seven yards per play.
What do you think they're averaging through four games this year?
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Four point seven?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Four point eight? So there you go. That's your fifty
million dollars quarterback.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Jason in Baltimore.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
There how much chestiness after last night's stumping of the Bills.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I mean it was it was obviously and emphatic win. Right,
That wasn't just your typical even for you know, a
team with a good home field advantage playing in primetime.
That doesn't happen all the time. Buffalo Bills were playing
great football, and they got absolutely manhandled across the board.
(23:22):
And if you don't want to like the wayst Ravens
Thingers aligned right now, Like, if you don't have heavy
personnel to match up in the box when they run
at you with you know, two tight ends and the
fullback end Derrick Henry and you don't want to blitze
like crazy, then then you're probably in trouble, like you
(23:43):
might no numbers might not work for you defensively, and
they never did for Buffalo last night. And you know,
I don't know, like defensively, that looked like Mike McDonald
last night, that look like Zach Orr found Mike McDonald's
old playbook and call sheet and they had all the answers. Well,
(24:09):
they can run the football anything close to this, guys
like that defense is not gonna be on the field
that much. Like it's it's just, you know, it's nuts
what they're doing on the ground. You're running backs counted
for over three hundred scrimmage yards in that game.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, you know, the thing Jay that I that I
don't get is that and I thinking about this last night,
is that for the last few years, it's been got
to get Lamar playmakers at wide receiver, right and the
failure to do that, they can't get him, you know,
they fly, they can't get them. They can't get him. Meanwhile,
it's like, no, no, no, just get me a running
back we can rely on that doesn't get hurt that
I can give the ball to. And suddenly this offense
(24:43):
looks it looks like it's it's better than it's ever
been because and maybe that's what they needed. We get
somebody who's a big threat running the ball. It's not
about getting the guys for Lamar to throw downfield too,
it's it's going the other way. And it's like, oh, man,
have you just done this like four or five years ago,
just like what could have happened?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Well, yeah, I mean I don't think you were getting
your hands on Derek Henry four or five years ago,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (25:04):
That was not somebody else, another bell Count running back.
Yet it would have been better.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Well, I think that's what JK. Dobbins would have been
if he'd stayed healthy, you know, like I think remember
how few games he played And honestly, at that point
in his career, Lamar refused to chuck down. He refused
to embrace the horizontal pass game, so Dobbins would be
frustrated because he'd be wide open and in the flank
and Lamar would just keep it himself. Now. I mean
he's had even nine for nine to running backs in
(25:31):
that game. I mean, Justice Hill's got more receiving yards
than Jon Robinson through the season so far. Like he's
a thing. So yeah, I think, you know, I think
Dobbins could have been that guy. He just he was
never healthy. But they've got something really special cooking here
with that three headed monster in the backfield, and they
(25:53):
started hitting the staking a few shots under center, Jack
Upsite under center played action at heavy personnel twenty twenty
one and twenty twenty two personnel, Like they started unlocking
that a little bit. In that game. They had the
big one to likely for twenty six and then Andrews
was wide open on the next play and dropped one.
But I think that's the next step in the revolution
(26:16):
is if you're a fantasy player, you have their tight ends.
I wouldn't bail on them yet, Like I think Cincinnati
Washington these next couple of games, I think the tight
ends are going to start showing up more downfield because
you're gonna have to totally sell out to try to
stop the run. You know, all the misdirection and all
the power and everything they've got going on on the
run game.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
See there you go, guys, the by low because the
pancake blocks aren't showing up in the box score.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
All right, last one. I could either do that Joe
Flacco is.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Still elite or Jaydon Daniels in the first four weeks
of magnificence.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Choose your own adventure.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I mean I co signed both. You know, Flacco coming
and cold in that game and scoring. You know, it's
just like he left right picked up right where he
left off in Cleveland. I mean, if the Browns had
kept him, just think about that. Yeah, I mean to
think where they would be versus what where they are
with that moot quarterback who is just and he's a loser.
(27:12):
You're not winning anything with Deshaun Watson. And everybody in
that organization knows that except for maybe the owner. And yeah,
this Jadon Daniels thing is legit. Like there's nothing like
Sony about this, Like, yeah, we can quibble about who
he's played our debts and YadA, YadA, YadA, But I
mean he made Kylin Murrayskylin Murgans like football. Yes, like
(27:35):
it was it was one way traffic. It was all
Jayden Daniels all the time, and there's still not that
much volume in the past game yet. I mean, there's
there's some potential for some crazy stuff there.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
He's on Twitter at Jason Locke and four. That is
at Jason Locke and four. Check them out, honesty one,
O five seven the fan in Baltimore, Washington Post. Jay
is always buddy, appreciate it. Have fun in the playoffs
with the Orioles. We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Sound about it?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
All right, there goes Jason locking for ready for the
gotta be ready for the playoffs. Got ready to go?
Speaker 6 (28:08):
I saw they they gave you the template the Orioles
did on social media in case you need to bag off.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
School or work. Yeah, yeah, no, it's nice talking about
you have to be at the yard.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Yeah, at the yard.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
You're gonna be in the yard for some work. Oh okay,
that works, the yard for some work.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
We got lots of lots of points to talk about,
none of them between the Titans and the Dolphins, but
plenty between the Lions and the Seahawks. But speaking of
big plays, Steve Desaga will of course begin with the
biggest play of maybe the last ten years in sports,
Francisco Lindora's ninth inning home run to put the Mets
in the playoffs. Steve do do do do Hi. I
(28:57):
don't think that's work. I'll do my Steve disagre depression. No, no, no,
you know. I do have a quote from the great
baseball statistician Sarah Langs hope. She had a good one
on the Mets today. The Mets are great. There we go,
there's Steve O.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
There we go. Yeah, we'll get to that little game later.
There are two NFL games right now, and at Detroit.
It's not over early fourth quarter, Allions thirty five twenty
seven over Seattle. Kenneth Walker, playing after an oblique injury.
Third touchdown run just now twelve carries eighty yards for
him Gino Smith two hundred and ninety yards passing in
(29:29):
a score, but Jared Goff is leading, and the Lions
quarterback is fifteen for fifteen through the air two hundred
and twenty five yards and a touchdown. Amen Ross Saint
Brown has also thrown a touchdown pass to Jared Goff
two minute warning, mercifully, and the Tennessee Titans are leading
at Miami twenty four to twelve. Looks like the Dolphins
will fall to one and three. Tyler Huntley was the
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quarterback tonight, twelve of twenty eighty one yards passing and
an early fumble. And it's Mason Rudolph for most of
the game at QB for Tennessee as Will Levis started
but left early with a shoulder injury. Tony Pollard eighty
five yards rushing. Taja Spears only thirty nine yards on
the ground, but he has a touchdown. The star of
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the night, and this one has been the Titans kicker
Nick Folk. Five for five on field goals and he's
hit from fifty one, fifty two, and fifty three yards out.
Basketball Hall of Famer de Kembe Matumbo died of brain cancer.
He was fifty eight. Cincinnati Red's legend Pete Rose died
he was eighty three. The San Francisco Giants fired team
president far Hanxiety and replaced him with Buster Posey. At
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the MLB All Star Game, players will now wear their
own team's uniforms, as it always used to be through
twenty nineteen. In Major League Baseball, an incredible game to
open a makeup doubleheader at Atlanta today. The Mets trailed
three nothing in the eighth, scored six times in the
top of the eighth, gave up four runs in the
bottom of the eighth ye and still won the game
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eight seven over the Braves on a two run home
in the top of the ninth by Francisco Lindor. The
Mets are in a playoff berth. They'll play at Milwaukee tomorrow.
The Braves clinched their playoff berth with a game two win,
three to nothing. Even though Braves pitcher Chris Saal was
scratched due to backspasms, He's likely out this week. Arizona
was eliminated. Tomorrow night, the Braves start a best of
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three in San Diego.
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It's over in Tennessee. They thumped the Dolphins thirty one
to twelve. Meanwhile, the Seahawks trying to get back in
it against the Lions and they are driving now down
eight thirty five twenty seven, still ten minutes to go
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in the fourth quarter in this one. Ge no, g no.
We have more football coming up in about ten minutes.
But look today at a big double shock. You know
you probably woke up and saw the news to Ken
Bamtumbo passed away at the age of fifty eight from
brain cancer. And then shortly after the last game of
the baseball season regular season, shortly after the Mets and
the Braves played their doubleheader, we found out Pete Rose
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passed away at the age of eighty three. There is
not a lot of details right now. Apparently he was
found by a family friend. They don't suspect any foul play,
but it was sudden for Pete Rose. Now, the big
thing is obviously Pete Rose had a very complex legacy
and it's not just about the gambling. But to get
us into this story, because I got to tell you
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there his last few years could have been really, really different.
This was him recently from the Brett Boone podcast when
he's asked about his chance to potentially getting in the
Baseball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
You think you think Cooper sounds going to happen one
day eventually, Yeah, but I'll be dead.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah wait, wait do I die?
Speaker 2 (33:49):
And I didn't know, change of heart and put me
on the list and I go from there.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
So that there was I mean, how chilling does that sound?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
You know?
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Think about that from a while ago. Look Pete's legacy
from the gambling to where he is not being the
Hall of Famer. I'll tell you this, Pete Rose would
be a Hall of Famer if the scandal from the
seventies didn't come up five or six years ago, where
when he was thirty four years old he was dating
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an underage girl who was sixteen ish years all the time,
there was a big discrepancy as to how old she was.
This came up years ago, year, a few years ago,
and not you know, thirty years ago because of something
that was said in an interview and Pete Rose sued
the guy who said, oh, Pete Rose was dating a
fifteen year old girl, and this brought everything up again.
Pete Rose is then't let go from his TV role
(34:42):
at Fox, which at that point was the new high
point of his career because the TV show with him
and A Rod and Frank Thomas was terrific, fantastic. Watching
him and A Rod talk about hitting was incredible, right,
It was incredible just seeing them back and forth, just
really quick things about hitting. It was like it was
it was incredible. The show really had a lot of buzz.
It was a great show, but when this controversy comes up,
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it's okay, you were thirty four, you were dating a
girl who was sixteen. He gets let go, and that
was the last thing for him, because if that doesn't
come up, right, if that doesn't come up, then he's
in the Hall of Fame now, because the last few
years there would have been that push of, well, look
how close sports are to gambling. Now look at the
NFL and gambling. Do we really need to do this?
(35:27):
Has Pete served his time and we can let him
in And there would have been a big outcry for
Pete Rose to be in the Hall of Fame, and
I'm pretty sure he would have gotten it. Now you
actually have the commissioners who were yes or no, want
but they understand that, hey, this is a big player.
It's a big thing to celebrate him. And with the
way our attitudes are about gamble now, clearly you can't
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gamble on your own team and can't gamble he was playing,
he was a player manager, he was gambling. Well, we
see guys now the gamble in the NFL. They get
one year suspensions, right, It's like Pete's been suspended for
thirty five years, right, See these guys get one year
suspensions if they're gambling on games and they weren't supposed to.
So I think without that scandal, if that doesn't come
to light, he's in the Hall of Fame. Now.
Speaker 6 (36:09):
Well, if they hadn't, if he'd done any of that
in the Rob Manford era, he just shrugged and moved on.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
But yeah, yeah, you got rewarded in the Rob Manford.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
I mean, obviously the allegations related to the underage woman
girl at the time I think certainly complicates mattered. I
don't know that you'd had the ground swell to get
him in even with the change in terms of gambling,
because he still was the face of hey, this is wrong.
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So whatever the CBA was in the NFL and the
rules of regulation different than Major League Baseball. I always wondered,
if Bartlett Giamatti didn't die a Bartlett Giamatti didn't die
in nineteen eighty nine, how long the lifetime ban would
have been. Yeah, if he'd lived a few more years.
But that's like the last thing he did death note
(37:01):
as commissioner before passing away. So it becomes the well,
you got whatever talks they had, you got to leave
it at that, right.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
So I'm still gambling. At that point was still you can't.
No matter what you do in baseball, you can't gamble.
That was the whole thing. Now, I mean, look at
where the landscape is now in twenty twenty four. Everybody
gambles on anything. Players can gamble on on games. Just
can't gamble on your own team. You can't gamble from
your where you practice. But other than that, the rules
are pretty but again that's NFL. The rules are pretty.
League baseball still has the same but with the general
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with the general acceptance of gambling now where it wasn't
where it was always in the shadows before and it
was illegal and who knew what was happening it would
have been because I think there was a there was
there was a much bigger push of Pete's done his time.
Pete's done his time for this. It's been so many years,
and I know he lived a lot of his life
with the hey, I'm the best player not in the
Hall of Fame, and that was a big deal. But
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you hear him talk he would have given everything to.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
Be a Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Wow, I mean he would have given for everything back
for a number of reasons, right, one that adulation that
goes with being able to give the speech being enshrined.
Speaker 6 (38:02):
But let's call it what it is. Pete was a
businessman with all of this too. He recognized and I
heard him say a time and time again, how many
millions of dollars not being in the Hall of Fame
cost him all the endorsement opportunities and the inscriptions for
all the autographs that you would sign over, Because that
would have been nineteen eighty eight. You're talking thirty six
years of signatures for an extra fifty to one hundred
(38:23):
bucks a pop to say hof whatever the year was. So,
I mean there was a huge financial cost to all
of it, as well as reputation and history. Look, he's
in the Hall of Fame because they've had the artifacts there.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
I've seen them on multiple occasions.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
Used to spend a lot of time at the Hall
of Fame when I was in the Northeast. But the
fact of the matter is that, you know, you get
to this point, it's unfortunate that you know, he never
got to have that day, but you broke what is
the cardinal rule of baseball?
Speaker 1 (38:55):
And I get it. It's it's muddy water. Now that
they've embraced billion dollars of ads and all of the
different participation they're in, whether it's just down the street,
the building next door, or whatever.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
I get it. It's changed. But like that part, I
don't know that we've hit.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
That part with baseball writers yet, that where we have
that tipping point of accomplishment versus while I was on
the beat when this all happened, and I have to
keep him out again. It's been so long, I don't
know how many of those writers still hold sway. I
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don't know how many of those guys from thirty five
years ago were still are still voters are still there still.
Speaker 6 (39:37):
They kept all the guys they didn't like that were
quasi steroid allegation.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
So that was still late two thousands. I mean you're
talking about that's fifteen years ago. You're talking about I'm
going back forty years where people like, wow, okay, this
is a long time ago. This is before I even
knew anything about baseball. He signed off on a lifetime ban,
though exit out about a Fresco exit. Swallendome will have
more on the complicated legacy of Pete Rose. We got
to kep him tumbo as well, and now Things getting
even more interesting in Detroit when it comes down to
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the end of the game between the Lions and the Seahawks.
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