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April 22, 2025 • 36 mins

Jason Fitz and Buck Reising, in for Jason and Mike, react live as the Clippers hold off the Nuggets on the final possession to even the series at 1-1. The guys look at how history does not bode well for the New York Knicks. Plus, Nico Harrison may be the worst meat shield of all time!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
If you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
What do you do when.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
The best series you're getting in the NBA Playoffs may
not be the sexiest to matchups, Because certainly, as we
sit here right now, three quarters of the way through
Game two, it looks like the Clippers and the Nuggets
are gonna give us night in, night out, amazing games
with close finishes and superstars. I just don't know how

(00:53):
to make everybody care about that.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
He's buck rising.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
I'm Jason fitz Bucketfit, sitting in on the Jason Smith
Show on Fox Sports Radio, having a blast with you.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Here for the late night we are in.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
For those of you on the East Coast that are
having a bender on a Monday night, congratulations, let's get
after it. And for those of you on the West
coast to just get near late night started. Congratulations, let's
get after it. Either way, feel like things are good.
I do have to just quickly buck rising lament the
fact that what are we getting for the second game,

(01:27):
you know, first game of the series. I think clearly
the best game of all of the games we got
was Clippers versus Nuggets, second game of the series. Clearly,
so far, the best game we've gotten is Clippers versus Nuggets.
We just happened to be getting it at midnight East
Coast time on a weeknight. Like, how stupid is it
again showing my East Coast bias?

Speaker 3 (01:48):
But how stupid is it.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
That you've got a playoff matchup that's actually a great
if this thing goes into overtime, like we're on the
air until two am Eastern time, like this game could
still be.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
On for all we know. That doesn't feel like it
makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
Oh, don't say that.

Speaker 6 (02:02):
Don't manifest that into existence for their sake. The after
game one went the way that it did, and again,
it should have been an easier game for the Clippers
to close out, but we talked about it in the
first couple of hours. The turnovers in particular just really
doom them and gave the Nuggets the opportunity to take
that games back turnovers.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
What about like championship DNA, like knowing how to close
out games when you need it? Like, couldn't we apply
some some cliches to give credit in this process to
how somehow Denver finds a way to get a win.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
No, of course you can.

Speaker 6 (02:37):
But it's also you have to point empirically to the
fact that the Clippers had what twenty nine they gave
up twenty nine points off twenty turnovers or something like that.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
I need to go back and look at my stat
sheet here.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
But it was something outrageous that would you know almost
every time, damn you in terms of trying to close
out of basketball again, if you can't hold onto the
ball to close out the game, that it's pretty easy
for the opponent to take advantage of that, especially when
the opponent is of the kind of quality that the
Denver Nuggets champions that they are have been able to

(03:10):
do this time in and time out. It's the best
series going. It's the best first round series by a
mile for sure. And to your point about watching sports
on the East Coast, I don't know how the hell
y'all do it like it's hard for me to stay
up in Central time, the Sports Gods time zone, where
everything falls just about where you want it to in

(03:32):
terms of your consumption of sports. But with this series
in particular, with this game in particular, as the Nuggets
turn it over there for the opportunity to give the
Clippers an easy basket, I am so curious to see
what the dialogue is around this series and around this

(03:53):
game in particular. Fits it because you said something there
that intrigued me. You don't know how to get everybody
else interested in this game, where I'm looking at the
quality of the basketball and saying, well, if they're not
If everyone is not interested in this game, then I
don't care about everybody's opinion because this is the best
basketball that you're gonna watch this weekend. I don't care

(04:15):
if it doesn't have narratives. I don't care if the
two biggest superstars in this series may as well be
mutes in Kawhi Leonard and Nikola Jokic. I'm just here
for the best possible version of these competitors, and they
are giving it to us in these first two games
without question.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
As we enter the fourth quarter for the Clippers and
the Nuggets.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
In the nineties, every new house had new House beige.
It was just this blase beige on every wall. Now
it's new House Cray every every house. Like every time
you're looking at a new house you walk in, it's
like this. I even went into home Depot a couple
of years ago. I was like, just give me a
new House Cray and the guy was like, I don't
know what you're talking about. I'm like, whatever, Gray, you
sell to every single paint person everywhere the world world

(05:00):
And he's like, Oh, this one new house Cray. That's
what anytime you end up with Kawhi, you know, in
this taking on Jokic, in this situation, you've got new
house Bays versus new House Cray. There's not a lot
of color, there's not a lot of excitement, there's not
a lot of sexiness to it. There just isn't like
and that's okay, you're you're right, it's the best basketball.
But again, Buck, I'll go back to my music background.

(05:23):
I would argue that more often than not, the savants,
the true geniuses, the most talented musicians you've ever seen
in your life, they don't end up being stars, Like
very few people end up going to see those bands.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Like those bands play clubs and sometimes.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Theaters, but the people that you know may not be
as good, But boy can they put on a show.
They filled stadiums, you know, Like I don't think I
don't want to sound blasphemoss here to some people, but
I would argue that many prominent country artists that are
out there making millions of dollars wouldn't win a karaoke contest,
but boy can they perform inside you'll let stadium, right, Like.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
It's a different it's a different beast, right, same with sports,
same with same with movies.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
Like every year now when we get the Oscar nominations,
people are like, never seen any of these. Like when
somebody comes in, it's like, have you seen this art
film that's in French? The answer is usually no, But
then it's like did you see Transformers twelve?

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (06:19):
All right? Like at the end of the day, we
like sexy things that blow up, like the good guys win,
the bad guys lose. Stuff blows up and there's some
random like side boop scene, Like that's a that's a
movie that's gonna make a lot of money different.

Speaker 6 (06:32):
You said, uh, sexy things that blow up, As if
you can't just have sexy things mutually exclusive from things
that blow up. No, the sexy things have to blow
up for you to be satisfied.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Me, Michael Bey, call me. I'm at this point.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
I'm giving somebody the plot of Fast and the Furious eighteen.
All right, Like, look, there's a reason that these things
simulative movies work.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
I am at my court.

Speaker 6 (06:58):
Why not just wait a damn are you trying to
tell me that Lakers are Excuse me, Clippers Nuggets is
the NBA's version of an art house film.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Come on, yes, yes, Clippers Nuggets is Clippers Nuggets is
the Nuggets.

Speaker 6 (07:13):
As for God's sakes that this is not a niche.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
They're champions that don't even at least as of two
years ago. They may have changed. They didn't even have
local broadcast rights in Denver, Like even people in Denver
couldn't watch the Nuggets on TV at the time. So like, yeah,
I mean, yes, they're champions, but how many people are
if right now, if you went to the average NBA fan,
just your average fan, and you said, you know what,

(07:38):
I will give you four free playing tickets for free
hotel rooms and four free court side tickets. You could
pick any team to go see this year right now?

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Who you gonna go to?

Speaker 4 (07:50):
Out of a hundred, Like if we were doing like
if all of a sudden, Steve Harvey's are man and
he's here saying, we asked one hundred NBA fans, which
how many fans do you think would the Nuggets? Three?

Speaker 3 (08:01):
I one hundred, like five?

Speaker 4 (08:03):
Maybe how many would say the Lakers even in the
year where the Lakers had nothing, even if the Lakers
didn't have Lebron and Luca, it'd be like seventy Lakers
fans out.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
It's just what I'm just. I just calls them like
I Seeson.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
Yeah, I know. And it makes me sad every time
that you do.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
And then I have to resign myself to the fact
that that is actually the case, and that is the
both sports and entertainment society that we live in. And
I'll just have to go on appreciate Nikola Jokicz, the
begrudging basketball player my goat as he continues to make
his way through the NBA playoffs.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Can you be the goat in the NBA if you
actually own goats? Like because I'm pretty sure Yoki somewhere
has goats. Can it can a goat raise gus?

Speaker 5 (08:45):
He then becomes the king of the goats.

Speaker 6 (08:47):
I don't know if you're doing just a livestock thing
with him generally, because he's talked about having horses and
how much he enjoys them. Well, I mean, you know,
some horse barns have goats in there to keep the
horses calm.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
These are you ever seen Seabiscuit?

Speaker 6 (08:59):
They got that little they got that little cat running
around and Sea Biscuits pen How.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
In the hell do you know about horse farming?

Speaker 5 (09:08):
Like, what doesn't I know nothing?

Speaker 6 (09:10):
I watched Sea Biscuit one time. That's the only thing
I know about horses.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
So everything everything I know about horses I learned from
Sea Biscuit.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Is a T shirt, By the way, it should be.
We need to make this a T shirt.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
It's a very shirt, very worthy t shirt.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Okay, now he's now he's what do you homage? At
this point?

Speaker 4 (09:31):
You're you're out here approving or not approving our designs.
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(09:52):
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Speaker 3 (10:04):
I was working with somebody a few years ago. They
was like, you know what I need.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
I need like a guide where all of my streaming
services were listed on one device and it would tell
me what's on all of them, and I could just
select without it leaving them. And I was like, dude,
you aren't literally describing cable to me, the thing that
you have aggressively unplugged from. You are absolutely describing.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
To me right now. You can't fix stupid man. You
just there's nothing we can do about this. This is
where the world is.

Speaker 6 (10:30):
Observation is a dying art, a wise man once said,
and I think it is evident every time we have
moments like that. As the Clippers cling to a three
point lead in the waning minutes of the fourth quarter
here in Game two of this Western Conference first round
playoff series.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Are you rooting for the Clippers or rooting for the
Nuggets in this one? Or do you not care?

Speaker 5 (10:54):
It's a good question.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
I thank you.

Speaker 6 (10:58):
It's a rare enough thing. We're two and we're we're
almost two and a half hours into the show. You
finally asked me a good question.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Welcome, we've hit our stride. There we go.

Speaker 6 (11:05):
I am very much wanting to see the Clippers do
this because the Kawhi Leonard career arc has been so
interesting to me and interesting the NBA fans. Again, you
want to talk about quiet superstars who don't bring the

(11:27):
TMZ element but just amaze you with their ability to
play at such an incredibly high level. When Kawhi Leonard
is on, and he is certainly on to night to
the tune of thirty two points in thirty one minutes,
he and James Harden just an unlikely couple of superstars
who were definitely past the peak of their powers but

(11:50):
still have the ability to cause some problems, and especially
I mean for the Clippers in the city of Los Angeles.

Speaker 5 (11:58):
It's just the Lakers.

Speaker 6 (11:59):
That's the only thing that matters, no matter how big
of a palace a basketball palace for the Los Angeles
Clippers that Steve Balmer builds. And I saw it when
I was out there covering Titans and Chargers. It is
an incredible facility, state of the art, top notch, and
they're just trying to put together a basketball team that
matches the aesthetic of who they want to be. If

(12:20):
the Clippers were finally to shake off this lovable losers
moniker that they have had for their entire existence, I
think that's a much more compelling story to me. And
I'm just I'm just in it for the storylines. Even
as I appreciate Jokic, the and the Nuggets and the
greatness that they bring to the table, I'd like to
see something different for the purposes of narrative.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
So I'd like to I'd like to root for the
Clippers in this one.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
I'm gonna give you an on honor of what happened
this weekend WrestleMania right back WrestleMania nine. I just watched
this documentary about WrestleMania nine, which took place back in
nineteen ninety three.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Okay, and the main I was born perfect.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Yoka's in a wins in ninety three and this was
this was in Vegas, so that's why they were showing
this documentary. Yoga's gonna wins over Prett Hart and it's
supposed to be this big championship moment. But because hul
Cogan was still popular, I guess they decided they were
gonna cram another Hull Cogan range. So right after he wins,
he's champion for like ninety seconds, haul Cogan goes in,
beats him and takes the belt, and everybody was just like, mah,

(13:21):
that's how the world's gonna feel when the Nuggets run
through the whole NBA and just win another championship. It's
gonna feel like just just WrestleMania nine, where you're like
there's nothing I can do to escape this. I'm rooting
for that just because it will it will frustrate people.
That's that's where I am. Okay, we'll keeping you up.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
The problem I need to This is something that needs
to come up in the therapy. It sounds like not
on national radio.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
What do you think national radio is? It is my therapy.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
Look, I just look if my favorite team's gonna suck
for my entire life, then nobody gets to be happy.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
That's that's a rule.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Nobody's more unhappy tonight than Knicks fans will tell you
about it.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
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Speaker 3 (14:07):
We got a tie game with four minutes to go.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
As it's very clear as we sit right now that
the best series of the opening round of these NBA
Playoffs is going to be Clippers versus Nuggets.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
It is a absolute battle.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
Yet again, he's buck rising on Jason Fitz, bucking fits, hanging.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
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will keep you updated as this game goes down to
the wire between the Clippers and the Nuggets. Not the
only big game today though, as the Pistons do the
seemingly impossible. They get their first playoff wins since two
thousand and eight, and they even up their series with
the Knicks at one game apiece.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
I can only imagine.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
That Jason Smith, the usual host in this time slot,
and every other Knicks fan out there is going apoplectic,
buck like there is this moment where the sky is falling.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Nothing is ever will get him next time.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Like you and I have both had the luxury not
of covering the NBA day in and day out, but
you and I have both had to or gotten to
how you look on it, look at it cover the
National Predators in a hockey season. My first season covering
the Prebs was the season they went to the Stanley
Cup Final and lost. We've seen long playoff series, and

(15:31):
there are different ways.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
That you can look at these games.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
Sometimes you can just look at it and be like, hey,
you know what, We're just this one. We're gonna crumple
it up, throw it away. We know that we're the
better team and we're gonna be just fine. I have
a hard time just allowing that to be the case
in this Knick series, simply because were it not for
a twenty one nothing, absolutely incredible run in the fourth
quarter of Game one, the Pistons would be up to

(15:54):
nothing Like. The Pistons look like the better team. Kate
Cunningham looks unstoppable right now. He is the biggest star
in that series so far, and I just don't know
what turns that around.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
So I think part of the reason I.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Feel like the sky is falling a little bit for
the Knicks is because the way the first two games
looked outcome be damned, it just it looks like the
Bistons are the matchup nightmare in this one, which.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
Is so frustrating. I'm sure if you're a Knicks fan.

Speaker 6 (16:21):
Because the last few minutes of this game Game two, FITZI,
it seemed just almost like a different ending. If you
if you went and are you a Marvel person? Do
you watch these movies?

Speaker 3 (16:34):
No?

Speaker 5 (16:35):
No?

Speaker 6 (16:36):
Okay, well in the mar Well, I'll just say that
in the Marvel universe. They have different universes within the
Marvel universe, right, That's why there's five different people playing
Spider Man at any given point, because the multi versus
they call it provides you alternate endings with different characters
even though the storyline is theoretically the same.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
That's what we were the ending.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
You're blowing mind here, You're blowing my mind. Hold on,
So the all the different Spider Man's are accepted, like
I always thought it was just like Batman, where it's like, hey,
we just have different actors and you're just gonna have
to go with it. But you're telling me within the
Marvel universe that Marvel Marvel's okay with different Spider man Like,
not only.

Speaker 6 (17:17):
Are they accepted, they are welcomed, they are celebrated. It's
like it's like Robert Downey Junior, who was the best
of the Marvel characters with Iron Man, He's coming back
in the Fantastic Four to play Doctor Doom, so he's
a completely different person. Even it's though that, even though
it's the same actor playing a different role within the

(17:39):
Marvel universe. So these people, you know, these people eat
it up either way. That's what the ending of Game
two seemed like to me. It felt it like a
multiverse ending to Game one, where you had the circumstances
that felt similar enough. You got Detroit leading by eight
after the first three quarters, the Knicks come back into

(17:59):
it late and tie the score with well, I mean,
we were watching it live about a minute left to play,
Denis Trader nails the triple, or excuse me, nails the
tie breaking three with fifty five seconds to go that
ended up being the difference, And suddenly you're looking around
wondering if the Pistons can finally get back into the

(18:21):
postseason as opposed to grabbing home court advantage and potentially
winning a slugfest type of series that has played directly
into their hands, and the momentum now goes back to
Detroit for them to to take control of this series
if they want to in a way that would make

(18:42):
any reasonable sports fan objective sports fan lose their minds,
much less a Knicks fan.

Speaker 5 (18:49):
I'm sure they're cratering right now.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
Well, and you mentioned earlier that one of the things
you can't give a team in a series is momentum, right.
I particularly think that's true in the NBA playoffs with
the young team, because the youth is the caveat we
use to just disqualify teams constantly. Like the answer everybody's
gonna give the world on Oklahoma City is that, well,
they're too young, They're not gonna be a real threat.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
I hate that so much.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
I do think where youth can as much as we
make it a turrent in the NBA playoffs, where youth
can be a real bonus for you is that I
don't know that you feel the pressure the same way.
I don't know that you feel some of the consequences
the same way. And when you get the advantage and
you get to go home, that that adrenaline hits so hard.
I think there's an actual advantage to a young team
that walks in with a little bit of swag going

(19:35):
in as by the way, some swag in this game
right now, this this Clippers Nuggets game, I can't give
it enough love.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
There's a minute, get another overtime, back and forth.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
I think we are I think this this feels like
it's just headed to another big, big, big sort of finish.
One oh three, one hundred is the score right now.
The Clippers just took the lead with a three with
a buck thirty to.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Go in that one.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
So uh, just we're getting great basketball out of this thing,
which almost it's almost so good that you forget how
bad playoff action was on Sunday, Like I've got something
on my mouth.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
This this beats me up. And all the time we
saw it on Sunday. We saw blowouts. We saw you.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
Know, the great example of this is that we watched
in Memphis Grizzlies lose by.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Fifty one points.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
Fifty one point any game that you know, Job's got
some health issues, I get, but everybody played like it
wasn't like they were sitting there and half the team
had the flu. No, their starters lost by fifty one
points in a game that didn't even feel that close,
and it has me thinking about narratives.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
I'll explain what I mean.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
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Speaker 4 (20:49):
He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz. It is spicy. This
game is great. And sometimes in the playoffs, first rounds particularly,
you get some great games. Like NCAA tournament first round,
you gets some great games, the NHL, the Stanley Cup playoffs,
sometimes you get some great games. In the college football playoffs.
Sometimes in the first round you're gonna get some great games.

(21:10):
Sometimes you're just gonna get fifty one point blowouts.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
I think we just have to.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
Understand that that's what comes with the playoff expansion of
every sport and as a result, like I'm just I
don't freak out. It bothers me. How often early in
the playoffs people freak out about the lopsided outcomes at times,
and it's like, we just gotta you gotta burn through
the extra teams that just sort of got into this
just to get into this. That's that's just an inevitability.

(21:35):
I don't know why we yell and scream about it
like it's the end of the world. Playoff basketball is
still better than non playoff basketball, and even if it's
a fifty one point loss for Memphis, doesn't mean we
need to change the entire system. Wretched turnover by the
Nuggets when they could not afford it. By the way,
this is this game is.

Speaker 5 (21:51):
At Oh it was my goat to.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
It was Yokics. What are you doing?

Speaker 5 (21:56):
That's such a.

Speaker 6 (21:57):
Bad spot with thirty seconds left to go in this game?
La holding that one oh five, one oh two lead
right now?

Speaker 5 (22:05):
Oh terrible?

Speaker 4 (22:07):
Yeah, well that uh I can tell you as we
as we sit here. Uh, at least you know, this
is the glory of streaming sports. We're all watching at
different times, but it looks like, if my app is correct,
the game has now come to a final. Yeah, one
O five one oh two is your final score. The
Clippers just got the win over the Nuggets, which, man,

(22:31):
now see this is this This is interesting to me,
Buck because what did we say earlier? The ending of
the Knicks game particularly changes the way we talk about
the whole series, right, because now it's we're not for
a twenty one nothing run. The Knicks could be down
to nothing the ending of this game. Man, if you're
the Clippers, you're looking at it and saying, golly, we

(22:51):
had a chance to win Game one, should have won
Game one, could have won Game one, and now Kawhi
absolutely unstoppable yet again in game two. You gotta feel
really good if you're the Clippers. You're you're you're in
a really good situation. You've taken home court back, and
you you really could have won both of the games
that were in Denver.

Speaker 6 (23:08):
Well, and just what a gut punch to have your
best player in a big spot with the ball in
his hands commit a turnover like that, and then immediately
after they you know, they get the ball back. The
Clippers miss a couple of attempts to widen their lead.
They're just throwing up garbage shots at the end of
the game, trying to let something fall for Jokic to
be the person to make that grave era. I'm looking

(23:29):
forward to because I know Mark Medeena is going to
join us at some point after this basketball game is
wrapped up. I don't know if he's going to do
press conferences a thing like that, things like that, but
we have that to look forward to at some point
before your and my time comes to a conclusion. Here
this evening, thirty sixth career playoff game with thirty plus.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
Points for Kawhi Leonard.

Speaker 6 (23:51):
How many people and that was just a stat that
TNT showed on the broadcast. There are not that many
people in the world that have that kind of experience,
that have that kind of pedigree, that operate just so
quietly the way that Kawhi Leonard does, and rare that
you could say that there was a quiet thirty point performance,
but that's just what that dude does.

Speaker 5 (24:11):
He's an assassin.

Speaker 6 (24:13):
He's an absolute assassin when his knees are right, and
I'm so glad to see him operating at a high level.
Now to your point, to kind of bring it back
to what you were saying, freaking out or not freaking
out in the first round of any playoff situation.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
Meant you mentioned the NCAA tournament.

Speaker 6 (24:32):
You mentioned the expansion just everywhere in sports as far
as the playoff formats go. And I think in basketball
that's an easier thing to do, right because more often
than not, the best team ends up winning out. It
may take seven games, it may take five games, whatever
the case may be, but more often than not, the

(24:53):
better team with the more talented players is going to
be able to influence their circumstance in their face nine
times out of ten. Whereas hockey it's complete random chaos.
Football there are so many different things that can happen
with the idea that every everything that's going on on
a field of play during a football game can just

(25:15):
cause utter chaos at any given moment. With basketball, I
think that holds true more than any other sport, though
you more often see to be cliche the cream rise
to the top.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
Yeah, well, particularly because of the way these series battle out.
And my god, you're right, Like Kawhi's final final stat
line thirty eight minutes in this game, okay, fifteen and
nineteen fifteen of nineteen four to seven from three for
thirty nine points, like.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
The staggering thing. And we've seen James.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
Harden in so many different games forget how to basketball
when it comes down to the very end of a game.
I wouldn't trust James Harden in a game seven for anything,
because he's given me no reason to Kawhi I would
trust anywhere, right, And this is where if Kawhi is
really healthy, able to stay healthy throughout the run of
this NBA Playoffs, which we all know is like eighteen

(26:07):
months long, right, but like, if he's able to stay
healthy through this second season of the NBA Playoffs, I
think the reason people have bought in on the Clippers
is being a title contender has everything to do with
what we saw in this game.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Like, no matter what they.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Put on Kawhi around Kawhi, he was able to create
a shot when he needed a shot, and he was
able to shoot with the level of efficiency that I
just don't know how you're supposed to be the Clippers
when Kawhi is fifteen to nineteen. Like in a game
where frankly, you could look around and you could put
a lot of blame on a lot of players. You
mentioned the fact that Jokic just a nasty, terrible turnover

(26:42):
late in this game. Also some bad looks by the
Nuggets as time was expiring and they needed a three
to tie it. I didn't like any of the shots
they got off. Russell Westbrook had some key tear numbers
in this game.

Speaker 6 (26:51):
That, Yeah, it sounds like we might have lost FITSI.
I think he's working through some internet connection situation and
at this point in time, so we'll see if we
can get reconnected. But to his point, there are just
there's so many different ways that you've got to try
and beat a team like the Los Angeles Clippers, and

(27:14):
you really do not have the luxury of the kind
of mistakes that the Nuggets made here tonight. It's going
to be an interesting thing to see how they try
and no pun intended rebound from the circumstance that they're
currently listening or that currently in the middle of. But
they will certainly have a tough test. And it's just
a terrible shame that this series is buried in the

(27:36):
middle of the night the way that it is. But
that is the product of the first round of the
NBA Playoffs and We're looking forward to seeing what Game
three between these two teams looks like. You're listening to
the Jason Smith Show on Fox Sports Radio, We'll see
if we can't reconnect with Jason Fitzie appears to have
gotten lost in the wilderness.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
If you want to give us a call.

Speaker 6 (27:55):
In the meantime, it's eight seven seven nine ninety six
sixty three sixty nine, eight seven seven ninety nine on
Fox here on the Jason Smith Show.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 6 (28:11):
Now, I myself have not given many press conferences in
my life, but if I was to give a press
conference and I was immediately peppered with questions about, well,
why exactly do you think you should keep your job?

Speaker 5 (28:27):
Might make me second guess a lot of.

Speaker 6 (28:29):
The things that I've done professionally or decisions that I've made.
That was certainly the case for Nico Harrison, the Dallas
Mavericks general manager. Jason fitz Buck rising here with you
on the Jason Smith Show. FITSI back from the beyond,
from the ether of the internet failure that left me
floundering around looking for DraftKings copy to buy us more time.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
As we figured it out, It's okay.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
We're back, We're better than ever, and we're here with
you for the foreseeable future, at least until the Internet
monster gets us again. But the Dallas Mavericks FITZI, their
season came to an unceremonious end after being in the
finals not too long ago, with Luka Doncic on their roster.
Now he's in Los Angeles trying to bring the Lakers

(29:16):
another title, and Nico Harrison, the general manager who traded
him away for pennies on the dollar as far as
the NBA exchange rate goes, sat there and was just
totally overwhelmed by the amount of questions that he was
getting about the decisions that he made to trade away
arguably the most gifted offensive basketball player in the modern

(29:39):
day sport right now. In fact, we have some audio
from Nico Harrison's press conference, Ryan, if we could hear
exactly how some of those exchanges went.

Speaker 7 (29:49):
I did know that Luca was important to the fan base.
I didn't quite know it to what level. But really
the way we looked at it is, you know, if
you're putting on the If you're putting a team on
the floor, that's Kyrie, Clay, PJ, Anthony Davis and Lively.
We feel that's a championship caliber team and we would

(30:10):
have been winning at a high level and that would
have quieted some of the outrage. And so unfortunately we
weren't able to do that, so it just continued to,
you know, go.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
On and on, why shouldn't you be fired?

Speaker 3 (30:22):
One?

Speaker 7 (30:22):
I think I've done a really good job here and
I don't think I can be judged by the injuries
this year. You have to judge from totality from beginning
to end, and so I think I have a really
good working relationship with Patrick. I thank you Ada and Rick.
The leadership that we have is really elite. And you'll
see next year when our team comes back, we're going
to be competing for a championship.

Speaker 6 (30:43):
Me, if you have to, if you get asked and
must answer the question, why should you not be fired?
Aren't you already fired? We just don't know it quite yet.
It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
Fits It's also crazy to me because this wasn't an
ambush by TMZ on the street, like this is a
known Hey, we got to do the year. In press conference,
you're going to sit in front of the media. A
lot of this media covers this team and covers Nico
every single day.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
He knows what's coming, and so all I ask is.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
That the people that represent an organization when they sit
in front of a microphone, are prepared for what's coming.
Especially when you can prepare for what's coming. This isn't
three minutes after a loss, when you're being peppered with
questions and you're sitting in your fields. This is a
planned year in press conference. He had to be prepared
for these questions because you knew they were. Like, if

(31:35):
you and I know that these are the questions and
this is the tone, then Nico should certainly know it,
and he should have a confident, definitive answer. And I
felt like the entire time he was swimming in front
of sharks, and I don't understand that when you've had time.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
To prepare for it.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
Just as they sat there and said, okay, Luca needs
to be able to do his job well. Part of
the job of being a GM is being able to
sit in front of a microphone, represent your organization and
represent your decisions trans actually in a way that exudes confidence.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
To a fan base.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
He did none of that, So I think this is
a lame response to questions that he could have predicted well.

Speaker 6 (32:09):
And it brings up an interesting question because we're on
the precipice of the NFL Draft. It is NFL Draft Week,
and we know that there are many meddlesome owners everywhere
in the NFL that can upend all the best laid
plans to draft all the best players and put together
all the best possible rosters.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
And in this particular.

Speaker 6 (32:29):
Situation, there's been plenty of reporting around ownership's impact on
the Luca trade and how Nico Harrison is the general
manager of the team who traded away Luka Doncic the
Los Angeles Lakers and all the sting that that brings
and all the fire Nico.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
Chants that echo in that arena.

Speaker 6 (32:47):
Most recently, when Luka Doncic went back there with the
Lakers and took a it took the Mavericks by storm
pretty handily to the two. I can't remember exactly what
Luca had on that night, what is what his box
score was, but he was excellent the entire way through,
at a breakneck pace. Again, he is the most offensive gifted,

(33:08):
offensively gifted basketball player in the sport right now, and
they just gave him away to a team that does
not need more of an embarrassment of Richards Riches like
the Los Angeles Lakers do. But I wonder if we
are if Nico Harrison is being trotted out there as
the fall guy, and that they'll make it worth his
while in his compensation situation and ownership is just back

(33:30):
there being like, all right, meat shield, go up and
take the bullets for us while we sit back in
our cigar smoke filled rooms drinking our brandy out of
sniffers and talking about, yeah, that was a really bad idea.

Speaker 5 (33:41):
Thank god Nico's there to take the blame for it.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
But if you're going to be a meat shield, be
the best meat shield anyone's ever seen.

Speaker 5 (33:48):
Like if there's no way there in my mind, that
means you have to do it badly. If you're going
to be the meat shield, you don't have to do
it badly.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
Like if I would take Roger Goodell's job in a heartbeat,
because that my guy makes like forty million dollars a
year with private jet life, so that he can essentially
be like we all sit and we blame Roger Goodell
for everything that's ever wrong with the NFL, which is
way easier than blaming the owner of our actual favorite
football team, and that's the person really responsible. All Roger
Goodell is doing is executing the orders of the owners

(34:17):
of each individual team. He is not individually responsible.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
For really anything.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
He's empowered by the owners, and as a result, he
takes all the blame. If Nico is going to stet
up there, if he is a human meat shield, then
my god, get up there and definitively say, you know what, just.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
What we decided we were going to do.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
Like as an organization, we stand behind you know well
enough having covered the NFL the way that you have.
If the GM wants to get their side of the
story out, there are a hundred ways to do that
that they can get that side of the story out.
Nico hasn't really done that, So if you were going to,
you don't get to play it halfway either.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
You come up and say, this is my idea, my team,
this way.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
I did it.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Now confident what I did, because I think it makes
this championship moving ford.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
And you do with the level of confidence.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
People may not understand, but they have to embrace or
you come out and you find a way because you
know the questions coming, you should be better rehearsed. Like
I just want I want the GM to be as
as tight and ready for this thing as a witness
is on law and order.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
That's it, like, be ready for it.

Speaker 6 (35:18):
I not to this extreme, but I've actually been in
one of these situations as a reporter covering this when
John Robbinson, the former general manager of the Tennessee Titans,
traded away AJ Brown to the Philadelphia Eagles and then
had an off the record meeting with reporters after the
fact to explain, Hey, this is what happened, this is

(35:41):
how we got here, this is what was going on.
AJ didn't have his details straight when he's out there
giving interviews to ESPN dot com about the thing after
the fact, after he's been traded away. It was a very,
very and obviously we know how that ended for John Robinson.
He got fired and two general managers later, the Tennessee
Titans are still trying to dig themselves out of that
hole that their GM created, in part because they traded

(36:03):
away the most talented wide receiver that this franchise that
I cover here in Nashville has ever drafted, and so
Nico is in a similar situation. And to your point,
he had the opportunity to control the narrative and just didn't.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Yeah, Nico blew it, just like just like the Nuggets
blew it tonight. We'll go to Denver next and get
some insight on the Clippers big win in the NBA playoffs.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
He's buck rising on Jason Fitz
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