April 11, 2025 • 41 mins
On tonight’s edition of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, the guys react to the Phillies’ extra-inning walk-off win and dive into the Steelers’ quarterback situation, trying to make sense of what Mike Tomlin is planning. Next, FS1 analyst Ric Bucher joins the show to talk all things NBA Playoffs, the surprising departure of Mike Malone as Nuggets head coach, Ja Morant’s celebrations, and much more.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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took a grand total of five hours and thirty nine minutes. Yeah,
because MLB insider Bob Nightingale kept track. But at twelve
fifty four am, Atlanta beats the Phillies four to two
on a walk off home run by Marcelo Zuna. More importantly,
this means the Mets are back in first place.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Mets are backing for me, Thank you, thank you. Back
in first place, back in first place. I keep hitting, refreshed,
waiting to see it change. Right. Come on, the Phillies lost, man,
someone's gotta be wor somebody's working at dot com. Now
Philly's loss. Come on, give me that eight and four,
Give me that eight and four.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I don't think that happens manually anymore. I think that
does on somebody's personal website.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Boom.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
No. I think you just have to wait for the
to fix the glitch and for all the servers to update.
But uh yeah, for you, congratulations Meto Pete Alonzo the
best bargain a baseball. His best friend is already starting
to say, hey, we need to make sure we love
this guy. So Soto really happy that he came back,
(01:38):
no question about it. But uh yeah, the the end
of this game, Congratulations to those folks that stayed around
the video of it.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I sent it to you, Jason.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
And stars crowd right like this is one where you
need to beat like three people have one one pretty
good first step to be able to get to the
ball as it lands because there is over there.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Uh look, look, and I read an interview you know,
I think it was a day ago where I mean,
I think Alonzo's got Juan Soda to thank for coming
back to New York because he said, I told Steve Cohen,
he's the guy that's got to hit behind me. I'm
successful when I have a guy hitting behind me, which
is kind of a weird thing that you think one
Soda who's gonna get seven hundred and fifty million dollars.
(02:24):
It doesn't matter who it's in front or behind me.
I'm that great because I'm getting seven hundred and fifty
million dollars. But for him to say, oh, I need
a really good guy hitting behind me, it's like, oh, dude,
I understand that. I understand that theory, but I don't
want to hear that from you saying, Hey, I'm good
if you got a really good guy hitting in back
of me. But he said Alonzo was the guy, and
and all of a sudden, Alonzo looks like he's really
(02:44):
going to get paid after this year.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Man who One of the old rules of thumb though, right,
if you're you're the the star players, star of whatever
you do, however you make your living out there across
the globe here on the iHeartRadio app and all our
affiliates nationwide, I mean, there's there's a star at whatever
position that you occupy, and maybe you're that star. With that,
you get to have some special asks. So when you're
(03:08):
going to team building, it's kind of like nobody's gonna
buy for a minute. Then Nicola Jokic, as much as
he may say, hey, they came to me and said
this is what they were doing that at some point
he didn't help give the code read. Likewise, you saw
the Anthony Davis footage from Dallas yesterday, You think he
believes any of the lebron didn't know stuff about him
(03:29):
getting traded. No, I would say that's that's a nice
fantasy tale you can tell your two year old with
some puppets. But the fact of the matter is you
got some input. And so if you're looking at the
marketplace and you say, well, what's out there, man, what
was going to be better than keeping a guy the
fans already loved in pi Alonso, especially if he was
(03:51):
gonna come back for that money?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Come on, Oh yeah, yeah, Look it's it's a win
win And I'm I'm I'm okay with okay. Now we're
waiting for year launch is gonna get a lot more. God,
I'm okay with that. I'm okay. But hey, speaking of okay,
you need to be okay with this because this is
simply what's going to happen. It is sort of manifested
itself organically over the last couple of weeks. But here
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we are right now, you know, April tenth, we are
two weeks away from the NFL Draft. Right, two weeks
from tonight, we'll be talking about round one and who
goes where and everything that goes along with it. But
I tell you be ready for every single day, every
show you listen to, every show you watch, is going
(04:38):
to break down the biggest story of the NFL Draft,
And one story is going to be bigger than every
other one. So I hope you're ready for it because
this is what's happening, because every day, every show is
going to have a version of this story. How good
is Shador Sanders and where will he get drafted? That's
every single day, right, Yes, we'll talk about Jackson, and
(05:00):
we'll talk about the running backs and the edge rushers
and the tackles come off the board and where TDD
Warren's could get all But Shador Sanders, how good is he? Really?
Where will he get drafted? That will dominate every single day.
Every day there's a new pundit and there's a new
expert that has Shador Sanders free falling through the draft
from He's not gonna go on the top three to
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he's not gonna go in the top five, He's getting
out of the top ten, He's getting out of the
first round. I wouldn't take him in the first three rounds.
He's an undrafted free agent. I would go back to school,
like just amping it up on how bad he is
and how overrated he is and what team's finally gonna
pull the trigger and draft Shador Sanders. That's going to
be every single day between now and the NFL Draft,
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because you throw on the star power that he has
had with Dion Sanders, and it's going to be every
single This hope you like it because it's every single.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Day right now.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
The third favorite to go third overall Abduel Carter, Travis Hunter,
and then Sanders right now, and then there's a big
drop off and it starts to really get a little
bit messy with names like Jackson Dart and some others
starting to creep in pretty fast.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
But yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
There's just so much to Dour Sanders that we watched
the last couple of years, analyzing every move, every word,
every social media post, every interaction with teammates. There's all
sorts of discussion about how much Dad and the team
around Dion Sanders is the invisible hand that helps to
(06:36):
guide things, versus is he has he been more hands
off and only team to team can really answer that, right,
it's all speculation and which sources you believe. You know,
that's my favorite, the anonymous source, because you call one
team and you say, I don't know. He was pretty snobby.
I didn't like him. He didn't address me properly. I
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like being called blah blah blah squire. He refused, you know,
and then he didn't get up to shake my hand
or whatever. Nonsense. And then you call the Mexicans. He
couldn't have been more perfect. He offered to go get
me a cup of coffee. We said, we chatted about
video games. He'd be brought in a dog and we
we played with the dog a minute. And he's the
nicest guy in the world. Like it's gamesmanship at this point, right,
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everybody's trying to secure the best asset at the lowest price,
like you do with everything else. And unfortunately, when it
comes to the draft guys or commodities, right, the humanities
to some level is stripped out and we start putting
things just in columns, like we're buying a new appliance
for our kitchen, All right, is it energy efficient? What's
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it gonna do to my bill? How much water does
it you know, runs through you know, per hour?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
What's this?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
You know what whatever device you're looking at, and you know, hey,
does it really clean the uh cake? Don gunk from
my cooking?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Right? If you're getting the ditchwater? So same thing here.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
We're doing plus and minus if we like this, we
don't like this, and then team to team. It really
just comes down to you've got sources in every room,
and the sources that reporters may have, they may not
be the decision makers, right, the deciders, the choosers whenever
we want to call them. They're just a guy in
the room. And maybe they don't like Shidh or Sanders,
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because that was one of the talk talking points a
couple of weeks ago. It's like, you know what they
didn't like. It became off as arrogant. Well maybe that
one guy. Did that guy speak for twelve or fifteen
or however many people were in a room at that point.
The world may never know. But up until draft night,
it's all a matter of misinformation and day to day
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trying to figure out what teams are gonna do. It's
a great I mean, you love puzzles, you love escape rooms,
we might as well build escape rooms in all thirty
two NFL cities, and that's how we play the game
of who do we draft in this scenario? And we
just set up a puzzle where you go through I
guess we're taking your door, Zanders, and then you try
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to unlock the door.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I'm glad you mentioned that because I will tell you
the team that needs youdor Sanders more than anybody else,
and that is they need it because they need a
quarterback more than anybody else, and they also need to
prove they still know what they're doing more than anybody else.
And that's the Steelers. Okay, if any other NFL team
dealt with the quarterback position the way the Steelers have
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the last couple of years, there would be legitimate calls
that the head coach, the GM, whoever's making these decisions,
needs to be fired. Who decides with a playoff caliber team,
we're gonna go with Russell Wilson and Justin Fields and
go cheap at quarterback, and then we're not gonna learn
our lesson. No, no, no, We're gonna go after another
aging quarterback that's passed as prime and Aaron Rodgers. And
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if not, what's the plan there's no plan. So the
Steelers clearly, I mean really, I don't know what they're doing.
I don't know how you can say at quarterback, we're
going to try to find a bargain. You can't win
that way, right, Mike tom This is why I say, Mike,
I think the NFL has passed Mike Tomlin by right.
You can't win like it's nineteen eighty five. But yet,
clearly this is what they're doing. However, if they get
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Shador Sanders, if he is someone who does fall partly
through the draft, and the Steelers are not going to
make a crazy aggressive move to come all the way
up to get him, but if he starts falling out
the top ten and he gets you know, ten fifteen,
we're there. I could see the Steelers saying, hey, here's
a minor move for us to move up a few
spots and we grab Shador Sanders. Suddenly they look like
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they know exactly what they're doing. Right, Hey, we have
Mason Rudolph, who was our bridge quarterback. We went out
and got Shador Sanders. He's going to be in a
great position there with Mike Tomlins gonna get everything he
can out of him. He's gonna teach him the right way.
You know, he's gonna talk about responsibility, not blaming your
offensive line when you get sacked. Boy, what a great
landing spot for the Steelers. And Wow, they proved they
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played poker all the way till the end. We all
knew they needed to get a quarterback. Finally, when they
absolutely had to, they made a gutsy move at the end.
That's gonna happen. And I'm gonna want to pull whatever
hair I have out, which I don't have any, because
I'm gonna go. The Steelers are just lucking their way
into this. They're just lucking there. But they need him
more than anybody else, because again, they need a quarterback
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more than anybody else, and they need to prove that
you can still trust us, Mike Tomlin needs I still
know how to build a winning team, because right now, man,
you don't. I would much rather have a team that's
got a quarterback and questions everywhere else, because those are
teams that win, teams that have really good, solid play,
and you have death in a lot of positions. If
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you don't have a quarterback, you're not gonna win. I'm sorry,
you're not going to win, and right now I have
the Steelers on my not gonna win list because they
don't have a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Well, right now they sit with just seven picks, no
compensatory picks for twenty twenty five. They have a first
to say, have you got one any round?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Right?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
So sixth round coming over in DK, trade seventh by
way of a couple of teams whatever else. The second
actually the second is gone because that got traded to
Seattle for DK. But all of that to say is
you've got the other elephant in the room. When we
talked about it a little bit earlier with TJ. Watt
(12:16):
as to is he traded for more draft assets? Is
he traded for a quarterback? It's captain ball, TJ.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
TJ Watt, TJ Watt to the Falcons and you eat
a lot of money and we'll take Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, no exactly, but legitimately, like is that part of
something that's on a giant chess board as well? Uh,
all that to say, you're you're sitting at number twenty one.
I don't know that Sadur is sitting there at twenty one, right,
You're gonna have to probably come up and get him.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Yeah, they'd have to come up to like one, Like,
I don't see it. He's gonna come up before before
New Orleans. I think that's too expensive because clearly the
Steelers want to do it as cheap as possible, right,
So I think coming up to New Orlean too much.
But going up to about fourteen or fifteen, Yeah, no,
I think that they'll do. Yeah, that's a Steelers thing
to do.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
So that's the big question.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
How many spots do you need to come come up?
How many? What's the compensation calculated on the old Jimmy
Johnson draft board shards to value evaluations. Hey, man, I'm
gonna invoke my man Jimmy Johnson until long time. Go ahead, man,
it's just the idea of for the Steelers. I think
you're absolutely right. You look at that division and sorry,
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shake over your years if you need to Cleveland with
their quarterback position again, the Super Bowl champion Kenny Pickett
Stefanski will have them just good enough to kind of
mess things up, but not truly a contender. Cincinnati will
actually play well, No, but I mean, what are they
gonna win six or seven games just by the fact
that he's gonna be able to coach him up against
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lesser opponents, and they'll make a couple of plays. I
don't know, maybe they'll win split the season series with
the the in state, right Bengals who can't get out
of their own way, and of course the Steelers that
we're looking at them right now. It's kinda side I going.
Then Ravens are at the top of the heap, and
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Harbass signs his extension. You look at just man for man,
that's on paper, the best roster.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
In the division.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
So you're chasing right and trying to get over the
hump to where you're playing something for something substantive, and
it's just that difficult part of trying to evaluate where
you are and is it good enough?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
All right?
Speaker 3 (14:32):
You ask yourself this question a million times a day.
I what am I thinking about for lunch? Yeah, but
I could spend three dollars more and get something really
good over here. That's my value proposition. Yeah, that one's
gonna be greasy, it's gonna lay on my stomach. I
got a bunch of work this afternoon, but it's gonna
taste really good. And I had a bad morning. Okay,
(14:53):
So now now we're doing value propositions and going all
the way through. Same thing as if you're a winning
football team like the Steelers, at some point, are you satisfied?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Right?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
What was it the Pirates of the Caribbean when my
man's doing the whole speech to Kieran Knightley saying, you know,
I drink and I can't quench me thirst and whatever else.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
If they're a Scaler fan, aren't you kind of there?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Aren't you kind of there where you're just all right,
we're right there, and then you know, you take a
swig of wine and it runs right through down your
gullet and you get no satisfaction from it.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
That's kind of where we're at. So why not be
bold and go away from what you've been doing?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Do something, even if it's wrong.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I think you've been there for a long time. If
you're the Steelers, it's been a long time since they won, man,
it's been a while.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Look out you like that?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
I invoked something from the Pirates of the Caribbean that.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah, no, very nice, no, very nice nice exit out
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Live the tirect dot Com Studios where Ja Morant is
at it with his celebratory best tonight, and I say
best in air quotes. Let's say he got warned about
doing the fingergun celebration that night, he got warned, he
decided I'm gonna do it again anyway. He got fined
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seventy five grand tonight he debuted the grenade celebration in
addition to doing more of the machine gun celebration. In
the Grizzlies lost the Timberwolf, so he's learned his lesson.
I'm sure one hundred percent you can agree or disagree
with the gravity of what Ja Morant is doing. It's
(18:38):
a celebration, but the bottom line is he is kicking
sand in the face of Adam Silver, and Adam Silver
has basically done nothing. Oh he kicked sand in his face.
I mean he did this by saying I'm gonna warn
you and I'm still gonna do it, and then they said, Okay,
here's seventy five grand. Oh yeah, big deal. Yes, Oh
that really hurts. Way to go Silver. I'm telling you, Mike,
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I don't expect anything from him in this because he
always wants to do nothing. Whenever he can, he wants
to do nothing. He's gonna pretend that this happened way
too late for anybody to see. He's gonna be out
of the office for the next four days and the
next time he's back in the office can take calls
on the NBA. We're into the playing round and we're
going to be past this. That's Adam Silver, That's the thing, right.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
We end the regular season on Sunday, so only a
couple more games to go, This one tonight against the
t Wolves, a prime time showcase game. Edwards goes off
job finishes with thirty six. But the story isn't about
the game. It isn't about playoff seating. It's about the
as you say, kicking the sand in the face of
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the commissioner and as we were talking about before. And
it's one thing to say, well, do I really think
it's it's an egregious, over the top, ridiculous celebration when
so many players in the league do it. No, But
the league has decided that they weren't going to at
LEAs make mention of it and hold it up and
say you know what you're You've been suspended for brandishing
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a gun, you've been fined, you got this warning, all
of these things.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Why why why can't we play nice? Sandbox.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
See what I did there? Bring it right full circle? Uh,
and just go in and play basketball. Why why does
it continue to be adversarial?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
To where you just move up uh and into a
different weapon of choice unless you've just got a long
play and you're actually shilling for some video game that
I'm waiting for the big reveal of another jersey under there.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Otherwise make it make sense to me.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Well, I'm glad you asked that question, because the man
who's gonna do that joins us now FS one NBA
Insider Extraordinary, Rick Buker. Check out the AMA Ball podcast? Rick,
What's happening?
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Man?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Happy? Thursday?
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Happy? Is it? Really? Is it Thursday of Well.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Let's see is it? How? How happy is it? Well,
I mean we'll get to the next part of it,
the Knicks loss.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Rick, I was just thinking that we might need to
take a take get donations for a therapy session.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Well, look, we'll get to the Knicks in a sec
because I want to. I got to get to the Knicks.
But look, we were talking about the Ja Moran situation,
right and curious tonight another celebration, more machine gun, more grenade,
Like I mean, he is just summing his nose at
Adam Silver, and Adam Silver has done basically nothing Like
I want to think Adam Silver is gonna say, hey,
(21:30):
I'm the commissioner of this league. But I mean, I
know and whatever something like this comes up, Adam Silver
doesn't do anything.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Yeah, well, look, I can I can understand where where
Jaw is putting Adam in a in a difficult position
because let's say the find doesn't mean anything. I mean,
I'm confident in saying that the Jaw has got about
three hundred million between his contract and his shoe deal
(21:57):
and whatnot. So seventy five thousand dollar fine is is
twenty bucks to him, So it's not that. But if
you go to a suspension, which is really the only
thing that would deliver with a message, then you're going
to have outcries. Can you really? Can you really suspend
the guy for uh theatrics? Essentially? You know, what what
(22:22):
is he doing wrong? Now? This is and it may
come to a job like daring him to do it.
This is the part I really don't understand. Why if
your job do you want to dare him to do that?
What is the point of this? What what is gained
from trying to dance, to walk and possibly cross over
(22:45):
this line of how you're celebrating. I kind of liked,
I got to tell you just because I'm I'm a
little bit of a contrarian. I kind of love the
hand grenade thing because because it was like, Okay, I
can use the gun. I mean, I just kind of like,
I'm big on creativity. It was enough, page, it was enough,
you know, I thought that was fun. But then if
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you're going to go back and you're going to double
down and you're still going to do the gun thing,
that that you know, the NBA has made pretty clear
again because of your because of your activity off the court.
You know, anybody who's looking at it and saying, well,
what's the problem. You know all these other guys, Yeah,
but you're the guy who was brandishing gun in real life.
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That's why. That's why they don't want that association. And
so I just I don't understand if your job, why, why,
what's the point. What's what's the advantage of this in
in in trying to rattle Adam Silver's cage if it
could potentially cost you and your team if you're suspended,
(23:52):
uh a playoff spot or I do At this point,
they can. I don't think they can fall out of
the play in, but certainly there's still in competition for
an actual playoff spot. Why would you risk being being
suspended a game when that's on the line. That's the part,
And I wish I could give you an answer for
why he's doing that, but I don't know that there
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is an answer. I don't know that there is a
rational explanation for doing that other than it's you can't
tell me what to do, which is you know that
that's sixth grade level of discourse.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
So rick moving forward, if I said to you after tonight,
Adam Silver will do blank as far as this goes,
what would you say?
Speaker 4 (24:38):
The answer would be double the double the fine. I
don't think he's going to go to a suspension. I don't.
I mean, I agree with you guys in that you
either take this seriously or you don't. You either you
either ignore it or and say it's a celebration. We're
not going to be that imposing on play. There are
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other guys who have done it. We can't. We can't
adjudicate everything, and there will be people who will take
exception that, and other people will say that's the same
reasonable way to go about this. You're bringing more attention
to it by you know, by finding him or doing whatever.
But then on the other hand, like, if you really
(25:20):
don't want this happening, then you have to have some
teeth in whatever the punishment is. And and I just
I don't think fines. I don't think the fines are
going to get you there. Unless you go and you
find the team like five hundred thousand dollars, then that
might get their attention, and then that they might say
to joh, hey, you can't do this, because this is
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where it all starts. Where it all starts is the
fact that the Memphis Grizzlies have never tried to curtail
his behavior in any way, shape or form. Even going
back to last year when we had the videos, it
was only until the League stepped in that we saw
something actually done. So before we can get to Adam,
I'm going to lay the blame with the Memphis Grizzlies
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for not having nipped this whole thing in the butt.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
So I'll leave the Knicks for Jason. So let's talk
Nuggets for a second. Michael ballone out final week of
the season, Yo, Kitch Yeah, they came to me and
this is what they said they were doing, and I shrug,
I don't know. It looked like Anthony Davis really held
Lebron accountable for the.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Trade stuff yesterday.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
If the video compilation I saw is truthful and not
Ai Denver, like, where do they go? Is this just
run it out as best you can and then do
a complete reset.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
I don't know if it's If it's a reset, and
I could see a scenario where David Adaman keeps the
job where they take the interim label off. Would imagine
that that depends on exactly what happens from here on out.
But that said, this was essentially ownership looking at the
Nuggets being eight and eleven since the beginning of March.
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I think maybe with the win against Sacramento it's now
nine and eleven. But they're looking at this team thinking
Nikolae Yokich is having another MVP year, he's playing better
than he ever has, but we're not getting what we expected.
We're not getting the development of our young guys, our
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veterans don't seem to be very enthused. We're not going anywhere.
And I think they're looking at the West and saying
it's wide open. And I was there at the beginning
of the year. I'm thinking the Denver Nuggets are the
team to beat coming out of out of the West,
and yet here they are where they're just hanging on
to the fourth seed, and based on the way they've
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I mean, when you lose at home to the Washington Wizards,
that's not good. And then you lose by nineteen to
the Trailblazers and Mike basically comes afterward and says, you know,
our guys don't watch film unless we unless we make them.
I mean, you're just you're publicly shaming your team. And
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I can understand where he might be frustrated and guys
might not be responding to him. But this thing's very
it's a very complex situation because obviously Mike knows what
he's doing as a coach. But at some point, if
you don't cultivate relationships with your players and you are
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at complete odds with your general manager, which was the case,
and ownership is really not feeling all that warm and
fuzzy that's kept you around. I've talked about moving, you know,
making a move on you multiple times, and it's only
because the team has continued to win where they've held
off that decision. I had a GM text me at
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this on in the morning that it happened, because I
was like, Taylor Jenkins and now this like what is
up with this? And he said, when you when you
don't get along with anybody and then you start losing,
you put yourself in harm's way. And ownership basically looked
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at this and are looking at it as a hail Mary.
They had no confidence whatsoever that this team was going
to turn around under Mike Malone, and so they're like,
you know what, the guys love David Adelman. He's been
here ten years. He knows this team, like, maybe we
can salvage something. And David made a very smart move
(29:33):
in that he basically empowered the players after the win
against the Kings. He said, hey, look you guys, like
this is on you. I love the communication among you guys.
You guys need to pick up the mantle and do this.
This can't you don't need us all the time. This
should be about you. And I just got the feeling
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like Mike had separated himself where it was if they won,
it was they did a great job of following the
game plan, and if they lost, it was because they
didn't follow the game plan. And at some point you
just have to have a certain amount of humility, even
if it's not true. As a coach, you got to say, hey,
you know what, I got to be better. And I
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just don't remember Mike ever saying it. As this season
has progressed and spiraled, spiraled the wrong way, and I
think ultimately all of that is what led to this.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
All right, Rick, lastly, I'm going to say something and
I want you to, you know, just agree or disagree
with me. And I'm hoping you disagree, but you're going
to agree.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
I know it well, so you know, considering where you
I'm assuming where you are mentally, psychologically, spiritually, emotionally, I'm
kind of here for you, buddy, So I may have
to lie, but I'll do what I can.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Okay, Okay, good, all right, good good. The old one
used to tell me about Don Nelson when you first
met him. If I need to lie to you, I'm
gonna lie to you.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Okay, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Last year, going into the playoffs for the Knicks, I
was full of excitement and possibility and expectation. And now
I go in with a sense of dread and inevitability
that it's just not gonna happen. That's where I am
right now. Tell me I'm wrong.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Please, no, I can't remember which way am I supposed.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
To go on.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
You're supposed to make me feel better?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Is what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
That's what it is. You're at me lying you you
can't do it.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
You're asking a lot right now.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Instead stead do this really quick? Instead do this. If
the Knicks losing the first round, is it a new
head coach next year?
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Yes, yes, I would say, I would say, and And
the problem is right now they're matched up with the
team that just beat them by fifteen. As it stands,
they catch the Detroit Pistons in the first round. Now,
I think it's going to be a lot about temp,
controlling tempo and generally here here, this, this is I'm
throwing you a lifeline here. Okay, the game generally slows down,
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and Detroit is a top ten in pace. They need
the game to go fast for them to be good.
They're not nearly as good in half court sets. As
much as Kate Cunningham has grown and developed, By and large,
they need to get they need to turn you over,
and they need to make the game code fast. That
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generally doesn't happen in the postseason, and this is going
to be a brand new experience for that entire Detroit team.
So the New York and the Knicks, as we know,
you know, on the other hand, playing slow, I think
they're in the bottom ten in terms of pace. That's
that's their wheelhouse. So I think there is a way.
(32:57):
I think there is a way, in spite of the
way everything looks and dread is just such a good
word and such an opposite of how I felt about
them going in last year, you know, until you know,
ultimately the TIBs running everybody into the ground costs them
against the Pacers. But we don't have to revisit that
that that uh that do we We don't have to
go back there. So so I do think, well, see
(33:20):
what now here?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Now?
Speaker 4 (33:21):
I'm also conflicted because if you want a new coach,
then you want them to lose to the Pistons, right.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Uh, sure, I want Danny Hurley? Why not? Wow?
Speaker 4 (33:35):
You know you do know that Danny Hurley is like
TIBs on stairs.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Oh of course, of course, no, But I mean the
headline would be awesome. Danny Hurley just craning his neck
up to yell at Karl Anthony Towns and he comes
off the floor, that would be just awesome.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Uh yeah, no, Danny Hurley. Danny Hurley would be yelling
at Carmelo Anthony forever putting a Nick's uniform on.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
He would he would go, he would go.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Back into the artis and find guys that he's going
to have issue with. Yeah, uh yeah, no, I I
it's it's just it's not it's not looking good for
the Knicks and it's not looking good for Tibbs. But
I do think that if he does get to the
second round, I think that I think he probably gets
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another shot. He's probably he's probably back. They have to
be competitive in the second round. But I just I haven't.
I will say this, I have not heard anything about
Tibbs being trouble to this point. So you take them
for what it's worth.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
He's a Twitter rat Rick Buker, that is at rec Buker.
Rick is always buddy appreciated.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Man.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Have fun. Thanks, Rick.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
It goes Rick all right. Time now to find out
what's trending in the wide world of sports from Isaac
Low and Kronilo. What do you got for us?
Speaker 6 (34:53):
We will start with Thursday's action at Augusta Fellas. Justin
Rose has the lead after the opening round of the mass.
He shot a seven hundred sixty five on Thursday, so
he's three ahead of Scottie Scheffler, Corey Connors and Ludwig Oberg.
NBA Thursday night, the Minnesota Timberwolves What haed? Memphis won
forty one to five. Anthony Edwards scored forty four. The
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t Will scored fifty two points in the third quarter,
a franchise record and the highest scoring quarter in the
NBA this season. On Memphis side, John Morant displayed his
grenade celebration again on Thursday evening. However, he also debuted
a new celebration in which he appeared to pantomime firing
(35:35):
a rifle after making a basket. But then again, perhaps
he was just pantomiming carrying a bag get home from
the local Jurie.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Done.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
Every little breeze seems to whisper looking. Perhaps he was
pantomiming pantomiming playing a violin in the uncommon horizontal position.
I'm just giving him suggestions For the inevitable explanation, we'll
have to give Adam Silver and Joe Dumars.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Pacers held off the.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
Cavs one fourteen to one to twelve for their six
straight win, clinching a top four seed in the East Baseball.
On Thursday night and Friday morning, the Atlanta Braves rallied
for three in the bottom of the eleventh inning to
beat the Phillies four to two. Marcel Ozuna the game
winning two run home run. The contest included a two
hour and forty five minute rain delay, so Ozuna hit
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his game winning home run at twelve fifty four Eastern
time on Friday morning. Here's how it sounded on the
Braves radio network. Call one to Ozena swung on and
crushed deep left field.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
Kepler going back.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Here comes some.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Late night dynamite here at Truest Park, oh walk up
home run by Marcello Zuna and the Braves won the
game in the series.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
In a related story somewhere, John Moran thought to himself,
late night dynamite, huh.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Think it easy?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I love Jason Smith, Mike Harmon Live in the track
dot coms he is coming up next one NFL quarterback thinks,
wait till I return, and when the reality is you're
never gonna play in the league again, that's next. That's
not Aaron Rodgers, It's next. Fox.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon. Thanks to Rick Buker for stopping by.
Next show, he had no good news for me for
the Knicks. Zero zero. See how I already tried though, Yeah,
he did try. He did. You know, he did try.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
He kept pausing and going, well, no, no, And then
you got Danny Hurley.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
You kept trying to make that happen, put you in
your place.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Yeah, well you know, he's just like the other guy.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
It's just a little louder. So listen, let's finish here tonight,
because earlier today Deshaun Watson decided to put a message
out on social media that oh, you've counted me out.
Oh just wait till I get healthy enough and I'm
ready to be back, and I am gonna be back
on the football field and slinging it here. He was
(38:20):
putting this out on social media.
Speaker 7 (38:22):
You know, everyone's doubting me. You know, everyone don't believe
in me.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Everyone don't think.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
That I can get back to where I was. So
I know and I believe the word that I put in,
what I believe in myself, the piece that I've been,
you know, kind of these last couple of months, I
know I'm gonna be way better than before.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah, okay, if by way better than before, you mean
the last five years, because you gotta go back to
twenty twenty, the last time you were any good. He's
got to understand his career in the NFL is over all, right,
the owner said a couple of weeks ago, swinging a
miss on de Shaan Watson. Dude, you're not coming back.
You're not coming back this year because we know he's
gonna be injury most of it. Right, he ripped up
(39:02):
his achilles a second time in rehab. You're not coming back.
The team that gave you all that money is not
gonna bring you back. So what you have now is
a guy that has not played well in the NFL
for what's gonna be six years. Because the last three
years he's been terrible. Oh, by the way, he's also
been injured, hasn't played more than seven games in any
of the last three years. So you have the fact
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that you haven't been good in six years, you haven't
been healthy in four years, and yeah, you're still nuclear
because of the massage stuff. Who's gonna say, let me
bring to Sean Watson in man, he's gonna be our answer. Nobody.
It's over. He's got to go play somewhere else in
some other league. But his time in the NFL as
a starting quarterback is done. He's played his last down
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in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Well, I mean think the best thing that came out
of that video is I want to figure out what
the song that was playing in the background is added
to my playlist.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
The rest of it is a whole lot of nothing.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
In all the stats that you gave.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
All of the games, playing game miss whatever else. He
also sat out a year where they were fighting over money.
I was like, I just just sit out. You can
be on the sideline. So all of that, and then
when you had an opportunity to prove that you could
still play despite all the off field troubles and distractions
and everything else, you went out there and you.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Stunk, all right.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
They had to dust off five other quarterbacks, including Joe Flacco,
to get them to the Promised Land a couple couple
of years ago. Our guy Shay can speak to that
one really well, the only Browns fan I know, by
the way, And you hit the chicken jockey references chicken jockey?
Speaker 2 (40:37):
What what?
Speaker 3 (40:38):
What?
Speaker 2 (40:38):
What was the what was the over runner for chicken
one and a half? Oh, chicken jockey.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Chicken jockey.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Well no, no, it's chicken jockey. Now we're over. We
hit the over all.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Right, I don't know what I win, but.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
That's for chicken jockey. Mike Harmon, I'm chicken jockey.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Jason Smith.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Ben Maller is next, Fox Bad, Chicken mess Up.
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
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took a grand total of five hours and thirty nine minutes. Yeah,
because MLB insider Bob Nightingale kept track. But at twelve
fifty four am, Atlanta beats the Phillies four to two
on a walk off home run by Marcelo Zuna. More importantly,
this means the Mets are back in first place.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Mets are backing for me, Thank you, thank you. Back
in first place, back in first place. I keep hitting, refreshed,
waiting to see it change. Right. Come on, the Phillies lost, man,
someone's gotta be wor somebody's working at dot com. Now
Philly's loss. Come on, give me that eight and four,
Give me that eight and four.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I don't think that happens manually anymore. I think that
does on somebody's personal website.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Boom.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
No. I think you just have to wait for the
to fix the glitch and for all the servers to update.
But uh yeah, for you, congratulations Meto Pete Alonzo the
best bargain a baseball. His best friend is already starting
to say, hey, we need to make sure we love
this guy. So Soto really happy that he came back,
(01:38):
no question about it. But uh yeah, the the end
of this game, Congratulations to those folks that stayed around
the video of it.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I sent it to you, Jason.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
And stars crowd right like this is one where you
need to beat like three people have one one pretty
good first step to be able to get to the
ball as it lands because there is over there.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Uh look, look, and I read an interview you know,
I think it was a day ago where I mean,
I think Alonzo's got Juan Soda to thank for coming
back to New York because he said, I told Steve Cohen,
he's the guy that's got to hit behind me. I'm
successful when I have a guy hitting behind me, which
is kind of a weird thing that you think one
Soda who's gonna get seven hundred and fifty million dollars.
(02:24):
It doesn't matter who it's in front or behind me.
I'm that great because I'm getting seven hundred and fifty
million dollars. But for him to say, oh, I need
a really good guy hitting behind me, it's like, oh, dude,
I understand that. I understand that theory, but I don't
want to hear that from you saying, Hey, I'm good
if you got a really good guy hitting in back
of me. But he said Alonzo was the guy, and
and all of a sudden, Alonzo looks like he's really
(02:44):
going to get paid after this year.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Man who One of the old rules of thumb though, right,
if you're you're the the star players, star of whatever
you do, however you make your living out there across
the globe here on the iHeartRadio app and all our
affiliates nationwide, I mean, there's there's a star at whatever
position that you occupy, and maybe you're that star. With that,
you get to have some special asks. So when you're
(03:08):
going to team building, it's kind of like nobody's gonna
buy for a minute. Then Nicola Jokic, as much as
he may say, hey, they came to me and said
this is what they were doing that at some point
he didn't help give the code read. Likewise, you saw
the Anthony Davis footage from Dallas yesterday, You think he
believes any of the lebron didn't know stuff about him
(03:29):
getting traded. No, I would say that's that's a nice
fantasy tale you can tell your two year old with
some puppets. But the fact of the matter is you
got some input. And so if you're looking at the
marketplace and you say, well, what's out there, man, what
was going to be better than keeping a guy the
fans already loved in pi Alonso, especially if he was
(03:51):
gonna come back for that money?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Come on, Oh yeah, yeah, Look it's it's a win
win And I'm I'm I'm okay with okay. Now we're
waiting for year launch is gonna get a lot more. God,
I'm okay with that. I'm okay. But hey, speaking of okay,
you need to be okay with this because this is
simply what's going to happen. It is sort of manifested
itself organically over the last couple of weeks. But here
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we are right now, you know, April tenth, we are
two weeks away from the NFL Draft. Right, two weeks
from tonight, we'll be talking about round one and who
goes where and everything that goes along with it. But
I tell you be ready for every single day, every
show you listen to, every show you watch, is going
(04:38):
to break down the biggest story of the NFL Draft,
And one story is going to be bigger than every
other one. So I hope you're ready for it because
this is what's happening, because every day, every show is
going to have a version of this story. How good
is Shador Sanders and where will he get drafted? That's
every single day, right, Yes, we'll talk about Jackson, and
(05:00):
we'll talk about the running backs and the edge rushers
and the tackles come off the board and where TDD
Warren's could get all But Shador Sanders, how good is he? Really?
Where will he get drafted? That will dominate every single day.
Every day there's a new pundit and there's a new
expert that has Shador Sanders free falling through the draft
from He's not gonna go on the top three to
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he's not gonna go in the top five, He's getting
out of the top ten, He's getting out of the
first round. I wouldn't take him in the first three rounds.
He's an undrafted free agent. I would go back to school,
like just amping it up on how bad he is
and how overrated he is and what team's finally gonna
pull the trigger and draft Shador Sanders. That's going to
be every single day between now and the NFL Draft,
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because you throw on the star power that he has
had with Dion Sanders, and it's going to be every
single This hope you like it because it's every single.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Day right now.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
The third favorite to go third overall Abduel Carter, Travis Hunter,
and then Sanders right now, and then there's a big
drop off and it starts to really get a little
bit messy with names like Jackson Dart and some others
starting to creep in pretty fast.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
But yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
There's just so much to Dour Sanders that we watched
the last couple of years, analyzing every move, every word,
every social media post, every interaction with teammates. There's all
sorts of discussion about how much Dad and the team
around Dion Sanders is the invisible hand that helps to
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guide things, versus is he has he been more hands
off and only team to team can really answer that, right,
it's all speculation and which sources you believe. You know,
that's my favorite, the anonymous source, because you call one
team and you say, I don't know. He was pretty snobby.
I didn't like him. He didn't address me properly. I
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like being called blah blah blah squire. He refused, you know,
and then he didn't get up to shake my hand
or whatever. Nonsense. And then you call the Mexicans. He
couldn't have been more perfect. He offered to go get
me a cup of coffee. We said, we chatted about
video games. He'd be brought in a dog and we
we played with the dog a minute. And he's the
nicest guy in the world. Like it's gamesmanship at this point, right,
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everybody's trying to secure the best asset at the lowest price,
like you do with everything else. And unfortunately, when it
comes to the draft guys or commodities, right, the humanities
to some level is stripped out and we start putting
things just in columns, like we're buying a new appliance
for our kitchen, All right, is it energy efficient? What's
(07:44):
it gonna do to my bill? How much water does
it you know, runs through you know, per hour?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
What's this?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
You know what whatever device you're looking at, and you know, hey,
does it really clean the uh cake? Don gunk from
my cooking?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Right? If you're getting the ditchwater? So same thing here.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
We're doing plus and minus if we like this, we
don't like this, and then team to team. It really
just comes down to you've got sources in every room,
and the sources that reporters may have, they may not
be the decision makers, right, the deciders, the choosers whenever
we want to call them. They're just a guy in
the room. And maybe they don't like Shidh or Sanders,
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because that was one of the talk talking points a
couple of weeks ago. It's like, you know what they
didn't like. It became off as arrogant. Well maybe that
one guy. Did that guy speak for twelve or fifteen
or however many people were in a room at that point.
The world may never know. But up until draft night,
it's all a matter of misinformation and day to day
(08:45):
trying to figure out what teams are gonna do. It's
a great I mean, you love puzzles, you love escape rooms,
we might as well build escape rooms in all thirty
two NFL cities, and that's how we play the game
of who do we draft in this scenario? And we
just set up a puzzle where you go through I
guess we're taking your door, Zanders, and then you try
(09:05):
to unlock the door.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I'm glad you mentioned that because I will tell you
the team that needs youdor Sanders more than anybody else,
and that is they need it because they need a
quarterback more than anybody else, and they also need to
prove they still know what they're doing more than anybody else.
And that's the Steelers. Okay, if any other NFL team
dealt with the quarterback position the way the Steelers have
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the last couple of years, there would be legitimate calls
that the head coach, the GM, whoever's making these decisions,
needs to be fired. Who decides with a playoff caliber team,
we're gonna go with Russell Wilson and Justin Fields and
go cheap at quarterback, and then we're not gonna learn
our lesson. No, no, no, We're gonna go after another
aging quarterback that's passed as prime and Aaron Rodgers. And
(09:50):
if not, what's the plan there's no plan. So the
Steelers clearly, I mean really, I don't know what they're doing.
I don't know how you can say at quarterback, we're
going to try to find a bargain. You can't win
that way, right, Mike tom This is why I say, Mike,
I think the NFL has passed Mike Tomlin by right.
You can't win like it's nineteen eighty five. But yet,
clearly this is what they're doing. However, if they get
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Shador Sanders, if he is someone who does fall partly
through the draft, and the Steelers are not going to
make a crazy aggressive move to come all the way
up to get him, but if he starts falling out
the top ten and he gets you know, ten fifteen,
we're there. I could see the Steelers saying, hey, here's
a minor move for us to move up a few
spots and we grab Shador Sanders. Suddenly they look like
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they know exactly what they're doing. Right, Hey, we have
Mason Rudolph, who was our bridge quarterback. We went out
and got Shador Sanders. He's going to be in a
great position there with Mike Tomlins gonna get everything he
can out of him. He's gonna teach him the right way.
You know, he's gonna talk about responsibility, not blaming your
offensive line when you get sacked. Boy, what a great
landing spot for the Steelers. And Wow, they proved they
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played poker all the way till the end. We all
knew they needed to get a quarterback. Finally, when they
absolutely had to, they made a gutsy move at the end.
That's gonna happen. And I'm gonna want to pull whatever
hair I have out, which I don't have any, because
I'm gonna go. The Steelers are just lucking their way
into this. They're just lucking there. But they need him
more than anybody else, because again, they need a quarterback
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more than anybody else, and they need to prove that
you can still trust us, Mike Tomlin needs I still
know how to build a winning team, because right now, man,
you don't. I would much rather have a team that's
got a quarterback and questions everywhere else, because those are
teams that win, teams that have really good, solid play,
and you have death in a lot of positions. If
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you don't have a quarterback, you're not gonna win. I'm sorry,
you're not going to win, and right now I have
the Steelers on my not gonna win list because they
don't have a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Well, right now they sit with just seven picks, no
compensatory picks for twenty twenty five. They have a first
to say, have you got one any round?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Right?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
So sixth round coming over in DK, trade seventh by
way of a couple of teams whatever else. The second
actually the second is gone because that got traded to
Seattle for DK. But all of that to say is
you've got the other elephant in the room. When we
talked about it a little bit earlier with TJ. Watt
(12:16):
as to is he traded for more draft assets? Is
he traded for a quarterback? It's captain ball, TJ.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
TJ Watt, TJ Watt to the Falcons and you eat
a lot of money and we'll take Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, no exactly, but legitimately, like is that part of
something that's on a giant chess board as well? Uh,
all that to say, you're you're sitting at number twenty one.
I don't know that Sadur is sitting there at twenty one, right,
You're gonna have to probably come up and get him.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Yeah, they'd have to come up to like one, Like,
I don't see it. He's gonna come up before before
New Orleans. I think that's too expensive because clearly the
Steelers want to do it as cheap as possible, right,
So I think coming up to New Orlean too much.
But going up to about fourteen or fifteen, Yeah, no,
I think that they'll do. Yeah, that's a Steelers thing
to do.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
So that's the big question.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
How many spots do you need to come come up?
How many? What's the compensation calculated on the old Jimmy
Johnson draft board shards to value evaluations. Hey, man, I'm
gonna invoke my man Jimmy Johnson until long time. Go ahead, man,
it's just the idea of for the Steelers. I think
you're absolutely right. You look at that division and sorry,
(13:31):
shake over your years if you need to Cleveland with
their quarterback position again, the Super Bowl champion Kenny Pickett
Stefanski will have them just good enough to kind of
mess things up, but not truly a contender. Cincinnati will
actually play well, No, but I mean, what are they
gonna win six or seven games just by the fact
that he's gonna be able to coach him up against
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lesser opponents, and they'll make a couple of plays. I
don't know, maybe they'll win split the season series with
the the in state, right Bengals who can't get out
of their own way, and of course the Steelers that
we're looking at them right now. It's kinda side I going.
Then Ravens are at the top of the heap, and
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Harbass signs his extension. You look at just man for man,
that's on paper, the best roster.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
In the division.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
So you're chasing right and trying to get over the
hump to where you're playing something for something substantive, and
it's just that difficult part of trying to evaluate where
you are and is it good enough?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
All right?
Speaker 3 (14:32):
You ask yourself this question a million times a day.
I what am I thinking about for lunch? Yeah, but
I could spend three dollars more and get something really
good over here. That's my value proposition. Yeah, that one's
gonna be greasy, it's gonna lay on my stomach. I
got a bunch of work this afternoon, but it's gonna
taste really good. And I had a bad morning. Okay,
(14:53):
So now now we're doing value propositions and going all
the way through. Same thing as if you're a winning
football team like the Steelers, at some point, are you satisfied?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Right?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
What was it the Pirates of the Caribbean when my
man's doing the whole speech to Kieran Knightley saying, you know,
I drink and I can't quench me thirst and whatever else.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
If they're a Scaler fan, aren't you kind of there?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Aren't you kind of there where you're just all right,
we're right there, and then you know, you take a
swig of wine and it runs right through down your
gullet and you get no satisfaction from it.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
That's kind of where we're at. So why not be
bold and go away from what you've been doing?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Do something, even if it's wrong.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I think you've been there for a long time. If
you're the Steelers, it's been a long time since they won, man,
it's been a while.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Look out you like that?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
I invoked something from the Pirates of the Caribbean that.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah, no, very nice, no, very nice nice exit out
out a Fresca exit, Swallen Dome. Jason Smith, Mike Carman,
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The Jason Smith Show with My best Friend Mike Harmon
Live the tirect dot Com Studios where Ja Morant is
at it with his celebratory best tonight, and I say
best in air quotes. Let's say he got warned about
doing the fingergun celebration that night, he got warned, he
decided I'm gonna do it again anyway. He got fined
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seventy five grand tonight he debuted the grenade celebration in
addition to doing more of the machine gun celebration. In
the Grizzlies lost the Timberwolf, so he's learned his lesson.
I'm sure one hundred percent you can agree or disagree
with the gravity of what Ja Morant is doing. It's
(18:38):
a celebration, but the bottom line is he is kicking
sand in the face of Adam Silver, and Adam Silver
has basically done nothing. Oh he kicked sand in his face.
I mean he did this by saying I'm gonna warn
you and I'm still gonna do it, and then they said, Okay,
here's seventy five grand. Oh yeah, big deal. Yes, Oh
that really hurts. Way to go Silver. I'm telling you, Mike,
(19:03):
I don't expect anything from him in this because he
always wants to do nothing. Whenever he can, he wants
to do nothing. He's gonna pretend that this happened way
too late for anybody to see. He's gonna be out
of the office for the next four days and the
next time he's back in the office can take calls
on the NBA. We're into the playing round and we're
going to be past this. That's Adam Silver, That's the thing, right.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
We end the regular season on Sunday, so only a
couple more games to go, This one tonight against the
t Wolves, a prime time showcase game. Edwards goes off
job finishes with thirty six. But the story isn't about
the game. It isn't about playoff seating. It's about the
as you say, kicking the sand in the face of
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the commissioner and as we were talking about before. And
it's one thing to say, well, do I really think
it's it's an egregious, over the top, ridiculous celebration when
so many players in the league do it. No, But
the league has decided that they weren't going to at
LEAs make mention of it and hold it up and
say you know what you're You've been suspended for brandishing
(20:05):
a gun, you've been fined, you got this warning, all
of these things.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Why why why can't we play nice? Sandbox.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
See what I did there? Bring it right full circle? Uh,
and just go in and play basketball. Why why does
it continue to be adversarial?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
To where you just move up uh and into a
different weapon of choice unless you've just got a long
play and you're actually shilling for some video game that
I'm waiting for the big reveal of another jersey under there.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Otherwise make it make sense to me.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Well, I'm glad you asked that question, because the man
who's gonna do that joins us now FS one NBA
Insider Extraordinary, Rick Buker. Check out the AMA Ball podcast? Rick,
What's happening?
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Man?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Happy? Thursday?
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Happy? Is it? Really? Is it Thursday of Well.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Let's see is it? How? How happy is it? Well,
I mean we'll get to the next part of it,
the Knicks loss.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Rick, I was just thinking that we might need to
take a take get donations for a therapy session.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Well, look, we'll get to the Knicks in a sec
because I want to. I got to get to the Knicks.
But look, we were talking about the Ja Moran situation,
right and curious tonight another celebration, more machine gun, more grenade,
Like I mean, he is just summing his nose at
Adam Silver, and Adam Silver has done basically nothing Like
I want to think Adam Silver is gonna say, hey,
(21:30):
I'm the commissioner of this league. But I mean, I
know and whatever something like this comes up, Adam Silver
doesn't do anything.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Yeah, well, look, I can I can understand where where
Jaw is putting Adam in a in a difficult position
because let's say the find doesn't mean anything. I mean,
I'm confident in saying that the Jaw has got about
three hundred million between his contract and his shoe deal
(21:57):
and whatnot. So seventy five thousand dollar fine is is
twenty bucks to him, So it's not that. But if
you go to a suspension, which is really the only
thing that would deliver with a message, then you're going
to have outcries. Can you really? Can you really suspend
the guy for uh theatrics? Essentially? You know, what what
(22:22):
is he doing wrong? Now? This is and it may
come to a job like daring him to do it.
This is the part I really don't understand. Why if
your job do you want to dare him to do that?
What is the point of this? What what is gained
from trying to dance, to walk and possibly cross over
(22:45):
this line of how you're celebrating. I kind of liked,
I got to tell you just because I'm I'm a
little bit of a contrarian. I kind of love the
hand grenade thing because because it was like, Okay, I
can use the gun. I mean, I just kind of like,
I'm big on creativity. It was enough, page, it was enough,
you know, I thought that was fun. But then if
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you're going to go back and you're going to double
down and you're still going to do the gun thing,
that that you know, the NBA has made pretty clear
again because of your because of your activity off the court.
You know, anybody who's looking at it and saying, well,
what's the problem. You know all these other guys, Yeah,
but you're the guy who was brandishing gun in real life.
(23:28):
That's why. That's why they don't want that association. And
so I just I don't understand if your job, why, why,
what's the point. What's what's the advantage of this in
in in trying to rattle Adam Silver's cage if it
could potentially cost you and your team if you're suspended,
(23:52):
uh a playoff spot or I do At this point,
they can. I don't think they can fall out of
the play in, but certainly there's still in competition for
an actual playoff spot. Why would you risk being being
suspended a game when that's on the line. That's the part,
And I wish I could give you an answer for
why he's doing that, but I don't know that there
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is an answer. I don't know that there is a
rational explanation for doing that other than it's you can't
tell me what to do, which is you know that
that's sixth grade level of discourse.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
So rick moving forward, if I said to you after tonight,
Adam Silver will do blank as far as this goes,
what would you say?
Speaker 4 (24:38):
The answer would be double the double the fine. I
don't think he's going to go to a suspension. I don't.
I mean, I agree with you guys in that you
either take this seriously or you don't. You either you
either ignore it or and say it's a celebration. We're
not going to be that imposing on play. There are
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other guys who have done it. We can't. We can't
adjudicate everything, and there will be people who will take
exception that, and other people will say that's the same
reasonable way to go about this. You're bringing more attention
to it by you know, by finding him or doing whatever.
But then on the other hand, like, if you really
(25:20):
don't want this happening, then you have to have some
teeth in whatever the punishment is. And and I just
I don't think fines. I don't think the fines are
going to get you there. Unless you go and you
find the team like five hundred thousand dollars, then that
might get their attention, and then that they might say
to joh, hey, you can't do this, because this is
(25:42):
where it all starts. Where it all starts is the
fact that the Memphis Grizzlies have never tried to curtail
his behavior in any way, shape or form. Even going
back to last year when we had the videos, it
was only until the League stepped in that we saw
something actually done. So before we can get to Adam,
I'm going to lay the blame with the Memphis Grizzlies
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for not having nipped this whole thing in the butt.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
So I'll leave the Knicks for Jason. So let's talk
Nuggets for a second. Michael ballone out final week of
the season, Yo, Kitch Yeah, they came to me and
this is what they said they were doing, and I shrug,
I don't know. It looked like Anthony Davis really held
Lebron accountable for the.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Trade stuff yesterday.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
If the video compilation I saw is truthful and not
Ai Denver, like, where do they go? Is this just
run it out as best you can and then do
a complete reset.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
I don't know if it's If it's a reset, and
I could see a scenario where David Adaman keeps the
job where they take the interim label off. Would imagine
that that depends on exactly what happens from here on out.
But that said, this was essentially ownership looking at the
Nuggets being eight and eleven since the beginning of March.
(27:04):
I think maybe with the win against Sacramento it's now
nine and eleven. But they're looking at this team thinking
Nikolae Yokich is having another MVP year, he's playing better
than he ever has, but we're not getting what we expected.
We're not getting the development of our young guys, our
(27:24):
veterans don't seem to be very enthused. We're not going anywhere.
And I think they're looking at the West and saying
it's wide open. And I was there at the beginning
of the year. I'm thinking the Denver Nuggets are the
team to beat coming out of out of the West,
and yet here they are where they're just hanging on
to the fourth seed, and based on the way they've
(27:48):
I mean, when you lose at home to the Washington Wizards,
that's not good. And then you lose by nineteen to
the Trailblazers and Mike basically comes afterward and says, you know,
our guys don't watch film unless we unless we make them.
I mean, you're just you're publicly shaming your team. And
(28:09):
I can understand where he might be frustrated and guys
might not be responding to him. But this thing's very
it's a very complex situation because obviously Mike knows what
he's doing as a coach. But at some point, if
you don't cultivate relationships with your players and you are
(28:30):
at complete odds with your general manager, which was the case,
and ownership is really not feeling all that warm and
fuzzy that's kept you around. I've talked about moving, you know,
making a move on you multiple times, and it's only
because the team has continued to win where they've held
off that decision. I had a GM text me at
(28:50):
this on in the morning that it happened, because I
was like, Taylor Jenkins and now this like what is
up with this? And he said, when you when you
don't get along with anybody and then you start losing,
you put yourself in harm's way. And ownership basically looked
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at this and are looking at it as a hail Mary.
They had no confidence whatsoever that this team was going
to turn around under Mike Malone, and so they're like,
you know what, the guys love David Adelman. He's been
here ten years. He knows this team, like, maybe we
can salvage something. And David made a very smart move
(29:33):
in that he basically empowered the players after the win
against the Kings. He said, hey, look you guys, like
this is on you. I love the communication among you guys.
You guys need to pick up the mantle and do this.
This can't you don't need us all the time. This
should be about you. And I just got the feeling
(29:54):
like Mike had separated himself where it was if they won,
it was they did a great job of following the
game plan, and if they lost, it was because they
didn't follow the game plan. And at some point you
just have to have a certain amount of humility, even
if it's not true. As a coach, you got to say, hey,
you know what, I got to be better. And I
(30:17):
just don't remember Mike ever saying it. As this season
has progressed and spiraled, spiraled the wrong way, and I
think ultimately all of that is what led to this.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
All right, Rick, lastly, I'm going to say something and
I want you to, you know, just agree or disagree
with me. And I'm hoping you disagree, but you're going
to agree.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
I know it well, so you know, considering where you
I'm assuming where you are mentally, psychologically, spiritually, emotionally, I'm
kind of here for you, buddy, So I may have
to lie, but I'll do what I can.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Okay, Okay, good, all right, good good. The old one
used to tell me about Don Nelson when you first
met him. If I need to lie to you, I'm
gonna lie to you.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Okay, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Last year, going into the playoffs for the Knicks, I
was full of excitement and possibility and expectation. And now
I go in with a sense of dread and inevitability
that it's just not gonna happen. That's where I am
right now. Tell me I'm wrong.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Please, no, I can't remember which way am I supposed.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
To go on.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
You're supposed to make me feel better?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Is what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
That's what it is. You're at me lying you you
can't do it.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
You're asking a lot right now.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Instead stead do this really quick? Instead do this. If
the Knicks losing the first round, is it a new
head coach next year?
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Yes, yes, I would say, I would say, and And
the problem is right now they're matched up with the
team that just beat them by fifteen. As it stands,
they catch the Detroit Pistons in the first round. Now,
I think it's going to be a lot about temp,
controlling tempo and generally here here, this, this is I'm
throwing you a lifeline here. Okay, the game generally slows down,
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and Detroit is a top ten in pace. They need
the game to go fast for them to be good.
They're not nearly as good in half court sets. As
much as Kate Cunningham has grown and developed, By and large,
they need to get they need to turn you over,
and they need to make the game code fast. That
(32:37):
generally doesn't happen in the postseason, and this is going
to be a brand new experience for that entire Detroit team.
So the New York and the Knicks, as we know,
you know, on the other hand, playing slow, I think
they're in the bottom ten in terms of pace. That's
that's their wheelhouse. So I think there is a way.
(32:57):
I think there is a way, in spite of the
way everything looks and dread is just such a good
word and such an opposite of how I felt about
them going in last year, you know, until you know,
ultimately the TIBs running everybody into the ground costs them
against the Pacers. But we don't have to revisit that
that that uh that do we We don't have to
go back there. So so I do think, well, see
(33:20):
what now here?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Now?
Speaker 4 (33:21):
I'm also conflicted because if you want a new coach,
then you want them to lose to the Pistons, right.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Uh, sure, I want Danny Hurley? Why not? Wow?
Speaker 4 (33:35):
You know you do know that Danny Hurley is like
TIBs on stairs.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Oh of course, of course, no, But I mean the
headline would be awesome. Danny Hurley just craning his neck
up to yell at Karl Anthony Towns and he comes
off the floor, that would be just awesome.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Uh yeah, no, Danny Hurley. Danny Hurley would be yelling
at Carmelo Anthony forever putting a Nick's uniform on.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
He would he would go, he would go.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Back into the artis and find guys that he's going
to have issue with. Yeah, uh yeah, no, I I
it's it's just it's not it's not looking good for
the Knicks and it's not looking good for Tibbs. But
I do think that if he does get to the
second round, I think that I think he probably gets
(34:21):
another shot. He's probably he's probably back. They have to
be competitive in the second round. But I just I haven't.
I will say this, I have not heard anything about
Tibbs being trouble to this point. So you take them
for what it's worth.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
He's a Twitter rat Rick Buker, that is at rec Buker.
Rick is always buddy appreciated.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Man.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Have fun. Thanks, Rick.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
It goes Rick all right. Time now to find out
what's trending in the wide world of sports from Isaac
Low and Kronilo. What do you got for us?
Speaker 6 (34:53):
We will start with Thursday's action at Augusta Fellas. Justin
Rose has the lead after the opening round of the mass.
He shot a seven hundred sixty five on Thursday, so
he's three ahead of Scottie Scheffler, Corey Connors and Ludwig Oberg.
NBA Thursday night, the Minnesota Timberwolves What haed? Memphis won
forty one to five. Anthony Edwards scored forty four. The
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t Will scored fifty two points in the third quarter,
a franchise record and the highest scoring quarter in the
NBA this season. On Memphis side, John Morant displayed his
grenade celebration again on Thursday evening. However, he also debuted
a new celebration in which he appeared to pantomime firing
(35:35):
a rifle after making a basket. But then again, perhaps
he was just pantomiming carrying a bag get home from
the local Jurie.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Done.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
Every little breeze seems to whisper looking. Perhaps he was
pantomiming pantomiming playing a violin in the uncommon horizontal position.
I'm just giving him suggestions For the inevitable explanation, we'll
have to give Adam Silver and Joe Dumars.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Pacers held off the.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
Cavs one fourteen to one to twelve for their six
straight win, clinching a top four seed in the East Baseball.
On Thursday night and Friday morning, the Atlanta Braves rallied
for three in the bottom of the eleventh inning to
beat the Phillies four to two. Marcel Ozuna the game
winning two run home run. The contest included a two
hour and forty five minute rain delay, so Ozuna hit
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his game winning home run at twelve fifty four Eastern
time on Friday morning. Here's how it sounded on the
Braves radio network. Call one to Ozena swung on and
crushed deep left field.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
Kepler going back.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Here comes some.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Late night dynamite here at Truest Park, oh walk up
home run by Marcello Zuna and the Braves won the
game in the series.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
In a related story somewhere, John Moran thought to himself,
late night dynamite, huh.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Think it easy?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I love Jason Smith, Mike Harmon Live in the track
dot coms he is coming up next one NFL quarterback thinks,
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Speaker 5 (37:18):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 2 (37:28):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon. Thanks to Rick Buker for stopping by.
Next show, he had no good news for me for
the Knicks. Zero zero. See how I already tried though, Yeah,
he did try. He did. You know, he did try.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
He kept pausing and going, well, no, no, And then
you got Danny Hurley.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
You kept trying to make that happen, put you in
your place.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Yeah, well you know, he's just like the other guy.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
It's just a little louder. So listen, let's finish here tonight,
because earlier today Deshaun Watson decided to put a message
out on social media that oh, you've counted me out.
Oh just wait till I get healthy enough and I'm
ready to be back, and I am gonna be back
on the football field and slinging it here. He was
(38:20):
putting this out on social media.
Speaker 7 (38:22):
You know, everyone's doubting me. You know, everyone don't believe
in me.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Everyone don't think.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
That I can get back to where I was. So
I know and I believe the word that I put in,
what I believe in myself, the piece that I've been,
you know, kind of these last couple of months, I
know I'm gonna be way better than before.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah, okay, if by way better than before, you mean
the last five years, because you gotta go back to
twenty twenty, the last time you were any good. He's
got to understand his career in the NFL is over all, right,
the owner said a couple of weeks ago, swinging a
miss on de Shaan Watson. Dude, you're not coming back.
You're not coming back this year because we know he's
gonna be injury most of it. Right, he ripped up
(39:02):
his achilles a second time in rehab. You're not coming back.
The team that gave you all that money is not
gonna bring you back. So what you have now is
a guy that has not played well in the NFL
for what's gonna be six years. Because the last three
years he's been terrible. Oh, by the way, he's also
been injured, hasn't played more than seven games in any
of the last three years. So you have the fact
(39:23):
that you haven't been good in six years, you haven't
been healthy in four years, and yeah, you're still nuclear
because of the massage stuff. Who's gonna say, let me
bring to Sean Watson in man, he's gonna be our answer. Nobody.
It's over. He's got to go play somewhere else in
some other league. But his time in the NFL as
a starting quarterback is done. He's played his last down
(39:44):
in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Well, I mean think the best thing that came out
of that video is I want to figure out what
the song that was playing in the background is added
to my playlist.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
The rest of it is a whole lot of nothing.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
In all the stats that you gave.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
All of the games, playing game miss whatever else. He
also sat out a year where they were fighting over money.
I was like, I just just sit out. You can
be on the sideline. So all of that, and then
when you had an opportunity to prove that you could
still play despite all the off field troubles and distractions
and everything else, you went out there and you.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Stunk, all right.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
They had to dust off five other quarterbacks, including Joe Flacco,
to get them to the Promised Land a couple couple
of years ago. Our guy Shay can speak to that
one really well, the only Browns fan I know, by
the way, And you hit the chicken jockey references chicken jockey?
Speaker 2 (40:37):
What what?
Speaker 3 (40:38):
What?
Speaker 2 (40:38):
What was the what was the over runner for chicken
one and a half? Oh, chicken jockey.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Chicken jockey.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Well no, no, it's chicken jockey. Now we're over. We
hit the over all.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Right, I don't know what I win, but.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
That's for chicken jockey. Mike Harmon, I'm chicken jockey.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Jason Smith.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Ben Maller is next, Fox Bad, Chicken mess Up.
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Jason Smith
Mike Harmon
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