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May 8, 2024 38 mins

Chris and Rob debate whether the NBA got it right by choosing not to suspend Jamal Murray for throwing a heating pad at an official and discuss whether Shohei Ohtani would be more valuable to his baseball team if he only focused on pitching or hitting (and not both). Plus, NBA champion and FOX Sports Radio NBA analyst Antonio Daniels swings by to discuss all the biggest headlines coming out of the NBA Playoffs. Finally, the Odd Couple Callers bring the heat in this week’s edition of Trash Talk.

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Speaker 4 (00:53):
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Speaker 1 (00:53):
We got Antonio Daniels at the bottom of the hour and.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Then it's you trash talking Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
You have thirty to forty seconds to trash anyone or
anything in.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
The world of sports.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Rob Parker is trashing the Denver Nuggets. They're down two.
They got squashed squashed last night at home by the
Minnesota Timberwolves.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
But Rob, let's.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Stay there and good news for the Denver Nuggets. Jamal
Murray will not be suspended. He will be fined one
hundred thousand.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
Dollars for throwing a heating pad onto the court.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
I guess he was throwing it at an official, but
it landed on the court in the middle of the
painted area. No players stepped on it, fortunately, but a
couple came close. Rob, the fan of me, is glad
that he's not suspended. I mean, I just if Denver's

(01:53):
gonna go down, I want him to go down, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
At full force if they can.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
You hate to see any series or game determined by
a player availability, whether it's injury or suspension, whatever it is.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
But I in this case, Rob, to me, this is
so egregious.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
That if I'm the community, I don't even care what
the rule says. You cannot throw something onto the court
while players are playing, and I would have suspended him
for a game.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
I just don't know how you don't.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
I hate to say it because it's unfortunate, but I
don't know how you don't suspend somebody for that.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
Well.

Speaker 6 (02:37):
I just think you have to go by what you
have and your bylaws and your rules. You can't make
up rules as you go along. If that's not because
if that's just a technical for doing that during the
regular then it has to be a technical. Now if
he does that in the regular season and he's just
going to be assessed a technical foul, then it's the

(02:57):
same thing. You can't go, oh my, you can't do
that in a playoff game? Well, which one is it?
So now, because if they go back and re look
at this and decide that if somebody throws anything on
the court and it's going to be an automatic ejection
from the game and a suspension, then you can live
with that. But if I'm the players union and they
tried to suspend them, they wouldn't the league wouldn't have

(03:20):
a leg to stand on because there's no precedent for it.
There's no history of doing that. And I and I
get it what you're saying, but they've already they've made
it to where it's a misdemeanor and not a felony.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
That's the way it's written.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Because I know that's what the referee said, But there's
also been some reporting that they don't really have a
rule for that.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Is that correct, rob G.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Because it's like you just don't anticipate exactly the rules
for guys throwing things in the.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Crowd off the court, but not on the Is that true? Like, right?
Is that? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (03:58):
There was no.

Speaker 7 (03:58):
Explicit rule as far as I can tell that regulates
objects being thrown by players onto the court, because I
don't think they ever anticipated this situation ever occurring. I mean,
I got like, yeah, but the way that the official
described the situation in the post game, his feeling was

(04:20):
if something was thrown on the court, it would be
an automatic technical because you're interrupting the flow of the game.
If it was thrown maliciously, like I'm aiming this throw
at Anthony Edwards, then would be an ejection. But official, yes,
then it would be an ejection. But because they said
they could not determine what his intention was, that they

(04:43):
would not be able to eject him.

Speaker 8 (04:45):
And that's it.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
I mean, that shows which I understand that they didn't
want to eject him or suspend him.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Because you know, it's a huge game.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Denver has very little chance you would think of winning
without him, and they don't want that tomorrow a series.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
I get that sentiment. But see what I mean, if you're.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Gonna let player roight and like we said, I'm going
off of the understanding that there is no cut and
dried rule, that it's just.

Speaker 6 (05:17):
But then why would you Why do you think the
n b A is is doing this Because I.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Think they want they don't want to suspend him, and
I think they're saying, they're going almost like a loophole, Well,
we can't determine his intention, and.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
So they really believe if they really believe that.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
It don't matter what they really they don't. I don't
think they want to suspending.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
See here's my here's way. I disagree with you.

Speaker 6 (05:41):
When the rule with with the Knicks in the heat
that was okay, no, but I'm just saying, but the
rule was I if you leave the bench, you're gonna
be suspended.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
The Knicks lost that series. They lost seven players.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
I don't even think they should have been But I
think you go more by the spirit than they should
have suspended.

Speaker 6 (06:04):
They should have suspended I remember that Chris, and they
should have suspended all those players for one game instead
of they took away the Knicks that.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Was for both games because it was so like many guys,
it should have been one game.

Speaker 6 (06:17):
You lose that game, you know what I mean, and
then you play Game seven a full strength, like.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
They shouldn't have businessman. You a's like down on the
whole other terrible. That was yeah, but that was David Stern.
That's a whole different regime. I rob Ephram was RIGHTM Salon,
you're not dangerous that well.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
You never say that. I'll never hear you say that.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
That all. It's the first time ever.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
No, but a player could have easily stepped on that thing, slid,
maybe pulled the growing hamstring, turned an ankle, a knee injury.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
I mean that. And and regardless of that, Rob, I don't.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Think that's any less ridiculous than a player just getting
up off the bitch and walking on to the court and.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Playing like as a sixth player on the floor. Like
what how in the world, What in the world.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Entered Jamal Murray's mind to think that he could throw
a heating pad at an official onto the court.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
That's like lunacy.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
Nah, I get it, but I just it doesn't to me.

Speaker 6 (07:24):
It didn't feel like they had a leg to stand
on it, because I believe if they really believe that
Jamal Murray got uf.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
You think they believe what do you think they believe?

Speaker 6 (07:34):
I think that they don't have a precedent to do that.
I just don't think that if it hit me, not
to do it. If it hit the official he threw it,
and he got up and threw it in his face
or something, or threw it right at his feet, Chris,
then you got a different Uh, you got a different
take on it. I just don't think that they can
honestly look at that and go, oh, yeah, you gotta

(07:55):
get him out of the game. He's not gonna play,
because I don't believe that.

Speaker 5 (07:59):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (08:01):
I don't believe that they're not doing it just because
I get the money part and I brought it up
to Ephraim And the NBA doesn't want sweeps, you know that, Chris.
They don't make money off of sweeps, so that's not
what they want for the league. I just think in
this case, they did the only thing they could do.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
How is the only thing they could do. The Players
Association would need to chill because you put.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Players in danger. No, I mean, you can't take one
player over ten ten. They were out on the court,
were in danger.

Speaker 6 (08:33):
But you also have to make sure that this is
what has been policy and done.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
There hasn't been a policy. You ever seen something like that.
We've seen that.

Speaker 6 (08:42):
You're telling me that nobody ever threw a ball through
something and I can't.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
Recall me you don't remember it, but it doesn't mean
it didn't happen.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
I haven't seen anything as egregious as that like.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
That that And again, I mean, I can't say I'm
happy about it, because it just leaves a bad taste
in my mouth that you don't suspend somebody for something
like that. But I the competitive spirit, you know, I'm
glad he's able to play, just because it gives them
for their best chance.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
But I Rob, I mean that that's.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
One of those egregious things to me that it's just
like there has to be a significant punishment, and one
hundred thousand dollars there's really no amount.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
I don't care if it's five hundred thousand to a player.
It's just not that big of a deal.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
But you know, well, he will be there and they
will have their best shot at the end of the day. Rob,
he was frustrated and so they have to shoot from
the field.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
Yeah, he's being hounded like crazy.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
He wasn't that, he wasn't frustrated against the Lakers, and
he wasn't shooting a good percentage either, But they all
up in his grill like there's a reason they shooting poorly. Rob,
these dudes are so warming them. But we'll see, you know,
we'll see if they come back in game three, Mike,
you have to figure something out. All here's a good coach,

(10:05):
but their coaches are limited to like, I mean, I
don't see I'm looking at that. I don't know what
their answer is. I'm not a head coach. But it's
not just oh, just make some adjustment, man. These dudes
are a lot longer and quicker than them.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
They're a lot faster, and they're tenacious.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
And Afer made a good point about if they did
that at altitude, what they gonna do at regular you know,
sea level.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
I guess. So we will see.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
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Speaker 4 (11:48):
But Rob.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
In the meantime, let's go to Baseball Show Hail Tiny.
Remember a few months ago I said with show hay o'
tiny not pitching playing one way this year, hitting, I
would expect nothing's guaranteed, but I was like, I would
expect him to hit better than he has in the past,

(12:12):
as great as he's hitting the past, just because now
he can totally concentrate on hitting rather than pitching as well.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
And Rob Man, is he concentrating on hitting?

Speaker 1 (12:24):
The Dodgers second best record in the National League, Mookie
Betts also having a great year?

Speaker 5 (12:30):
Yeah, but show hey o.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Tany Rob leading the league in nine the league, not
just the National League, Major League Baseball in nine hitting categories,
including batting average, three seventy home runs, eleven doubles, hits,
slugging percentage ops. I mean, it's just a horde of

(12:58):
things he's leading the league in.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
And what I want to throw at you, Rob, is
do you think.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
He should just focus going forward on one.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Aspect of the game or the other?

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Should he become a full time pitcher or should he
become a full time hitter or do you think he
should continue once he's able next season and beyond to
do both well.

Speaker 6 (13:28):
I think Babe, Ruth Chris decided to be, you know,
gave up pitching and just decided to be a hitter.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
So there's the precedent that happened before.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
And he wasn't like, no, his hitter until he stopped
you know.

Speaker 6 (13:41):
Pitching right and and he just focused in on hitting
and playing every day or whatever, and we know what
he became legendary status.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
Okay, So but in on Tani's case, I would vote
against it.

Speaker 6 (13:56):
I would vote again because it's something we haven't seen
in almost one hundred years. And if he can be,
he wouldn't be as he's not like the best pitcher
in baseball, so that that's not what he's.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
A really good one. He's not. He's just right there
in the bull Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
Right, he's he's a good one, but he's not the
best pitcher.

Speaker 6 (14:16):
So but his pitching ability and then him being able
to you know, d h and or play the field
Chris the other five days because you know, remember there
would be one day he wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
Play right prior to his start.

Speaker 6 (14:30):
So he'd only play, uh six games a week or whatever.
And and even then, you know, when you mix in
some off days Chris, it probably would be what he
would get anyway, right, like a couple days off and break.
So it's not really that big of a difference. But
if you can do it and do it at a
high level, as soon as he's not really good as

(14:53):
a pitcher, say falls off, he comes back from injury,
the injury Chris, and he ain't the same. He getting
tattooed or then I would pull the plug on him
being a pitcher. He's got to be an elite pitcher
to make it worthwhile. If you're not an elite pitcher,
then he should just concentrate on hitting, because you play
every day and you're more valuable.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
I think they'll become a time rob when he is
just a hitter, right, even if he doesn't. If he
comes back and he's throwing smoke next year and he's pitching, well,
he may do that for the next five years, but
they'll probably will come a time where he can't really
excel at both, right, and you would think he would
then become a hitter, because he's still probably could be great.

(15:36):
His numbers are fantastic as a picture rob in his
you know, let's call it five years thirty eight and
nineteen e er of three point zero one, which you'll take,
you know what I mean, and today's baseball, you'll take
that yeah, that's very good.

Speaker 6 (15:55):
And Dwight Gooden one point five three Chris, but.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
That's strikeouts per nine innings eleven point four. So he's
I mean, like you said, he's not the best pitcher,
but he is an elite pitcher. He can be an
ace on because.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
He doesn't want to cy Young, you know what I
mean when you look at it despite everything.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
And I would not necessarily expect him to know.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
That would be unbelievable and and MVP.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
But I I think you typically typically ride with these things.
We look at, well, what's what helps the team most, right, Like,
so if it if it would help them more if
he was strictly a pitcher, or help him more if
he was strictly a.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Hitter, then I think you'd want to go with that.
I know that's not I think they would still take
hitting Chris.

Speaker 6 (16:46):
They would still take because if if they were equal,
just say they were equal. Right, as great as you
need pitching to win we talk about all the time,
right to win championships, you need pitching, right, but also
if you have a guy of that ILK who is
leading the league in all these categories and is a

(17:08):
tremendous threat every time he gets up to the plate,
it's hard to not want that guy, you know what
I mean, to get forced for bats.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
I actually feel like in that scenario you painted that.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
If he's and he is a lead at both.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
But let's let's presume if he did one or the other,
he would be like, like his hitting has improved obviously,
at least to this point this season, if his pitching
were to improve to the same degree, where maybe he
becomes a top three pitcher in the league, in all
of baseball, I actually think, especially on the Dodgers, they're
a unique situation because they have so much hitting outside

(17:47):
of him, Chris.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
They got a team mattan average of two seventy three. Yeah,
it really crazy.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
I mean, Mookie, like you said, is having a phenomenal
year himself, and they got other guys as well. I
would think, particularly on the Dodgers, if it had to
be one now, for the crowd, Rob, for ticket sales,
for you know, box office, I would want him to hit.
But for winning the World Series, I would rather him

(18:14):
be an ace pitcher.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
In that case. But here's what I was gonna say initially, Rob.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
No, that's a fair take. And now let me say this.
The Giants had Barry Bonds. They didn't win.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Right during his heyday when he was They didn't win
video game right exactly.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
So I would go that route. But overall, Rob, I
think doing both.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
If he can do both and be a three hundred hitter,
hit forty home runs a year, pitch with a three
point oh e r A, you know what I mean,
like be maybe a second starter or maybe even your
first Like, I think that that is more valuable than
how I mean him just hit three seventy and fifty homers, right,

(19:06):
if he can hit a little better, just hitting but
he doesn't hit quite as well, but he's also pitching
at a high level. I actually think the best way
he can help his team is to do both.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
Yeah, no, I would. That's why I think that they would.

Speaker 6 (19:22):
They're gonna keep him doing that as long as he can,
you know what I mean. As soon as he falls
off Chris pitching wise, I think that's when they would
pull the plug. And I'm not saying it's automatic that
he would fall off, but I'm saying if it happens,
If it were to happened, you wouldn't just put him
out there.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
He'd be like, dude, we need you to. We need
you to get four beats every single day and play outfield.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
And I don't know how important this is to him, Rob,
I mean, you're human. I would imagine it's it's something
you want to do. But what makes him so unique
and iconic and legendary is his ability to you both.
Like you know, you've heard me say, I think he's
the best baseball player ever.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
I'm not calling him to go. He's obviously got to accomplish.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
A whole heck of a long way to go time, right,
But he's I think he's the best baseball player I've
ever seen. That's because he does both things right. He
as good a hitter as he is. I wouldn't be
saying that if he's just hitting three seventy and gonna
hit fifty homers.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
I mean maybe over time, you know what I mean,
maybe get that.

Speaker 6 (20:27):
But it's that he's a dual threat, no doubt about it.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
I mean something we never thought we'd see, not.

Speaker 6 (20:34):
At this level, not at this level. And that's why
they made the exception.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
Chris.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
You know, in the minor leagues all the time, there
are guys who are pitchers or whatever.

Speaker 5 (20:42):
They make them. Everyday players.

Speaker 6 (20:43):
They go like, now we want you to play shortstop.
You're too good of an athlete, yep, to pitch once
a week, but just we need you to play shortstop.

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Speaker 5 (21:21):
Yo?

Speaker 3 (21:22):
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Speaker 4 (21:25):
You're great man.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
Great to have you on Chicken Nuggets. I'll tell you that.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, let's go there. We talked last week. I thought
that in Minnesota would beat them. Didn't see this coming.
Let me ask you this because a lot of people
are saying, well, Michael Malone just has to make some adjustments.
I mean, I see a team that's just I mean
they're just being smothered and swarmed. I don't know that

(21:51):
there are the adjustments for this. You'll try, but what
do you think there are some? Obviously adjustments AC and
pick or this is just gonna.

Speaker 11 (21:59):
Be to So so here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
All year on our Serious Sextum show, I saw it,
and I said on our platform and numerous other platforms
that eventually Denver's depth will be a problem. And people
just calling to the show and tell me, you know,
when you're not watching enough Denver Nuggets games because Kristin
Brown and Peyton Watson can do everything that Bruce Brown

(22:25):
and Jeth Green could do, all this kind of stuff,
and now what's showing up. You know. The thing is
they have the best five, the best starting five as
far as chemistry is concerned in the NBA. But the
thing is, once you get past those five, it's a problem.
And the thing is those five that are out there,

(22:47):
they they don't match up with Minnesota. You guys know this.
I'm not telling you something that you guys don't know.
This league is all about matchups, and I feel like
this is the one team because of the side there's length,
their defensive versatility that really gives the Denver Nuggets problems
more than all other twenty eight or whatever other teams.

(23:12):
It's an issue, and the Minnesota Timberwolves are an issue.
For the Denver Nuggets.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
Looking like so far Jamal Murrays shooting twenty eight percent from.

Speaker 5 (23:23):
The field, What is that? Is that defense that they're
playing them?

Speaker 10 (23:27):
Or well?

Speaker 3 (23:29):
See the thing that I felt all year that's been
underrating about the Minnesota Timberwolves. And I will go on
record send this because I said this numerous times. This
is why I don't feel like Rudy Gobert is the
defensive player of the year. This is exactly why. And
I think last night night with Evidence, last night with Evney,
because I feel like rim protection in today's NBA is overvalued,

(23:52):
and defensive perimeter versatility and good point of attack defenders
is underrated.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
All right, So you stop you real quick. Who's the
defensive player of the year?

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Then listen.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
I think you can go down to numerous guys. You
can look at Victor One, Antonio Kimmy, you can look
at Anthony Davis, you can look at Damn Out. But
for me, it's guys that can switch one through five.
Guys like Jada McDaniels, Guys like Hert Jones, guys like
Lou Dort. These kind of guys that's what makes Minnesota's

(24:26):
defense so good. It's not simply the fact that they
have Rudy Gobert back there. It's the fact that they
have excellent point of attack defenders. Nikhil Alexander Walker is
a great defender. Jada McDaniels is a great defender. Anthony
Edwards is a great defender.

Speaker 12 (24:41):
No.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
Three is a really good defender.

Speaker 6 (24:44):
But all Rudy Gobert's defensive numbers for analytics, they add
up to I'm just telling you what.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
I'm just telling you what the I'm just telling you
what the.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
Geeks are saying. I'm telling you that.

Speaker 6 (24:58):
I'm just telling you, Antonio, Am I not right about
the No, I'm just saying what.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
The right When you look at seeing those blocks and deflections,
Wimby is blowing.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
Wimby. Wimby lost eighteen games in a row. Stop it.

Speaker 6 (25:14):
Come on, Antonio, he's so good defensively. They lost eighteen games.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
In a row.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
This is why I have an issue with the award,
because it's all reputation bank. It's the best defensive player
in the league. That's what it's not to say the
best defender on the best team.

Speaker 5 (25:32):
It's not about being on the best team.

Speaker 6 (25:34):
But come on, what wimpact are you having if you
can't you move an eighteen straight game, Antonio, have you
ever lost eighteen games in every any.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
Level you ever play on Rock?

Speaker 6 (25:46):
I'm asking you, I'm just asking you a question. Nobody hears.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Here's the there's a there's a analytics side, there's a
advanced metric side, and here's the I test side. There's
a defensive impact size. Victor women Yama switches one through five,
Anthony Davis switches one through five, Bam out of Bayo
switches one through five.

Speaker 11 (26:10):
Guys like verb.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Jones, lou Dorg, Jada McDaniels will guard Steph Curry on Monday,
Lebron on Wednesday, Jannis on Friday, and Paul George on Sunday.
Who else is doing that? That's more valuable than somebody's
rent perfection. This is a reputation award. They gave Rudy
Gobert this award midway through the season. You knew he

(26:32):
was going to get this. This the same way you
know that Nikola Jokis is going to get MVP.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Let me ask you about Yokis, because Antonio, this is
one of the few times, and the first time in
a long time years that I have looked at him
in a you know, a couple of games in this series,
and I've said, man, his his I'm not saying he's
not as great as we've all said, but I'm this
is the first time Minnesota's making it look like his

(27:00):
lack of athleticism jumping speed is a problem.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah, But the thing is how many teams can.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Do no.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Right. And that's the thing. If you can get if
you can look like the best player in the world
versus ninety eight percent of the league, that's pretty good, right.
But the thing is, but Minnesota, they're constructed different because
their front line is seven foot seven foot six ten.
So when think about it, Rudy Gobert, according to Rob Parker,

(27:32):
is the defensive player of the year. But he's not
guarding na Kola Jokic, the guarding Aaron Gordon. Right now,
I understand it's about winning the series because what they're
doing is they're using him as a secondary defender. So
when he gets around Karl Anthony Town, then he has
to deal with Rudy Gobert. When he gets around Rudy Gobert,
then he has to deal with Ada McDaniels. So the

(27:52):
thing is this is why I don't see I'm not
saying it can happen, But you guys can help me
out with this. I don't see many adjustments that Mike
Malone can make.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
That's what I was gonna say.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
I think people are just saying that, Antonio, because that's
what you're supposed to say.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
But I'm with you.

Speaker 6 (28:08):
I'm like, I mean, they're just so they have no
shot to win the game, Antonia, no shot to win?

Speaker 5 (28:15):
Is that not what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
What I'm saying is I don't see that. That wasn't
the question. The question wasn't whether or not I still
think they can win the series. The question was what
adjustments can they make? And honestly, I don't see it.
Help me out, help me out what am I missing?
I feel like the best part about the playoffs is
when it becomes chef not checkers to watch, you know,
and sort of sit here and watch these games and

(28:39):
think of adjustments that can be made from game to
game watching.

Speaker 6 (28:43):
If Denver wins Game three, it's swarming.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
I don't see it.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
If Denver wins Game three, could they come back and
win the series?

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Yes? Yes, But here's my question to you, Rob, here's
my question to you. What has Denver done? What has
Denver's shown us in the first two games?

Speaker 5 (29:03):
No, no, no, that.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Makes this think that they can win games for me.

Speaker 6 (29:05):
But I also also have a degree of respect for
them being able to win a championship, and I think
that I think that that counts. And I think sometimes
teams that are younger, you might think it's all as
a rap or we're young com.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
I would be on board with you if this was
yesterday's game, because what teams would tend to do after
they get the first one's let down?

Speaker 5 (29:30):
No, I agree with that.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
I agree.

Speaker 5 (29:32):
I agree that that's so different.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Before you go Antonio Dallas, Okay, see man, this is
gonna be an intriguing series to me. You talked about matchups.
How do you see this when matching up today?

Speaker 3 (29:44):
On our show? I picked Dallas in sixth I'm so
interested to see how they allow lou Dort to guard Lucas.
That's a big thing on market because lou Dort was
the difference, the biggest difference for me in the Oklahoma
City New Orleans series. He was up in brandon Ingram, throwing,
brandon Ingram, grabbing Brandon Ingram being extremely physical with him.

(30:07):
I'm watching to see if they allowed that same sort
of physicality against an MVP candidate.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
Look, yeah, now I'm with you. It's gonna be a
great one.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
And they look they're letting Minnesota get really physical.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
So we'll see if they do that in this series.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
You're right, all right, that's our man, Antonio Daniel's NBA
champions Thanks.

Speaker 11 (30:26):
Brother, for sure, appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
Probably yep, thank you.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Trash Talking Tuesday is now your turn the trash anyone
anything in the world of sports.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
Hit us up eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
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Speaker 1 (30:51):
All right, it's the couple, Chris and Rob live from
the Tirerag dot com studios.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
It's time for trash Talking Tuesday. Okay, we're talking about it.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Trash Talking Tuesday.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
Regie, I don't know whether to smile.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
Lets you kick a field, go man.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
All right, here we go.

Speaker 6 (31:13):
Trash Talking Tuesday's underway. Let's start off with Mike in
the Natti and Cincinnati. You're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio. Michael, You're tragion.

Speaker 10 (31:26):
Mike Reena is awful take on Ruby Gobert that he
criticized him for missing the game due to the birth
of his child. I expect nothing less from Gilbert Arenas.
He's idiotic, he's a pretender, he's obnoxious. But what I'm
most but what is most shameful is the three or

(31:47):
four men, black men at that who are on this
podcast and they just agreed with him and sat back.
They offer no pushback. What's the point of having a
podcast if you're gonna be yes man and not have
a diversified opinion. But Chris, I know you're from Cincinnati.
I see you in New Orleans. Super Bowl twenty twenty five.
Joe Burrow beg baby, that Grel weeper lurking.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Hey, I'll be down there in New Orleans. You know,
Bruce Ard, We've run Louisiana. Yeah, I don't know if
the Bengals will be there.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
We'll see.

Speaker 5 (32:17):
We'll see if Chris is there, We'll see if we'll
be there. Hey, good take.

Speaker 6 (32:24):
I knew Cincinnati would get I knew that would get
Somehow you talk about Joe Burrow all right Innis in Corona, California.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
You're on the eye couple of Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 8 (32:33):
What's up, hey, guys, Gres show as always, I'm trashing
Lebron James. I didn't even know that he put out
a podcast with JJ Reddick, and this guy has the
audacity to try and rewrite history and talk about that
the Miami Heat wills into the twenty eleven finals because
his team wasn't good enough, that role players weren't good enough.

Speaker 12 (32:54):
I'm sorry, Jason Terry winked you up. After Game three
he said, oh, Ron can't defend that was just one
game that he defended me. Let's see what he can
do now. Game four, double the amount of points that
you scored seventeen to eight, outscored you in game five,
drop thirty on you in game six. You call yourself
the got You completely collapsed in that series.

Speaker 11 (33:17):
You'll never recover from me.

Speaker 12 (33:19):
Release as many podcasts as you want and as many
barbershop episodes where people just agree with you. It's shameful,
embarrassing to blame Eddie House you, Donnis has a Mike Miller,
and those guys for your poor performance. Dallas, the second
leading score was on the bench eighteen a game and
you had seventeen point eight. Never want to hear this

(33:40):
guy talk about being the goat or his clown followings.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
All right, man, in the same playing around.

Speaker 6 (33:47):
Really, my goodness, gracious, here's your boy Mayce from San Diego.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
You're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 6 (33:54):
Chris, you want to take a guest, Chris whitey Ford
who may who you treason?

Speaker 11 (34:04):
Not quite a good guest? Is actually going to be
the upcoming boxing match between Mike Tyson and that idiot
Jake Paul. Jake Paul is a worthless talent idiot who
does not deserve to be getting the chance to fight
Mike Tyson. This is beneath Mike Tyson. Jake Paul is
a gregiously disrespecting the sport of boxing, which so happens
to be my favorite sport. I freaking hate Jake Paul

(34:26):
Edison's thinking about gohone. Jake Paul is a parasite who
is in the same category as those other degenerates that
are ruining this country, like the Karjaskians, Lizzo, Soldier Boy,
and Honey Boo Boo. I hope Mike Tyson destroys Jake Paul,
just like he annihilated Trevor Berbick back in nineteen eighty six.
I want shed a tear. If Mike Tyson pulls the
vander Holyfield and bites your ear off, the stakes of

(34:48):
this fight need to be raised. After you lose this fight,
you should never be allowed to do these stupid boxing
matches anymore. As a result, you will be subjected to
making videos of Lizzo talking in front of you while
simultaneously watching your favorite Cartoonsho Rabel, Bright but full of
by your old time favorite cartoon show care Bears Unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
Hey, Mace, are you still there? Mace? Mace, we lose them. Nope,
I'm here, Mace.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
I'm just curious. Please, how old are you?

Speaker 9 (35:17):
Mace?

Speaker 5 (35:17):
Please?

Speaker 11 (35:18):
Forty?

Speaker 6 (35:18):
Tell me forty years old? Okay, appreciate it, Thank you,
all right, Mace, have a great night.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Appreciate He's too young to trash, half to people be trashing.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
That's why I wanted to know Chris how old he was.
I know he wasn't no trashing people.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
They weren't even he wasn't even bored when they were playing.
I was.

Speaker 6 (35:34):
I was wondering eight seven seven ninety nine, on Fox
if you want to jump in eight seven, seven, nine, nine,
six sixty three sixty nine. Uh, let's go to Dion
in Texas. You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
Who you're trashing, Dion.

Speaker 11 (35:51):
I'm trashing the casual NBA fan and even some of
the folks in the media like Stephen A. Smith. Listen,
tell us, look.

Speaker 13 (36:00):
This guy's talking about Lebron James. He may not be
in the goat conversation because of the coaches getting fired.
He's talking about had he got sweled by Denver. He's
not in the goat conversation. Dude, This dude must be
the goat because we try to find every way to
disqualify him from being the goat. Look, there is no

(36:21):
modern player in the NBA years that's going forward, is
going to win six championships.

Speaker 11 (36:27):
It ain't happening. Jordan whit different.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
Okay, we agree, We do agree on that.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
Did we love with that?

Speaker 10 (36:37):
Well?

Speaker 5 (36:37):
How about two Chris? How about two three? Peace? How
about that that happened?

Speaker 1 (36:42):
And Rob, I mean we I think I think we
lost the caller, But Rob, yeah, I mean it's what
you're seeing now is it's hard to.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
Win a championship. Yep, it's hard to win the championship.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Imagine winning six and eight years or basically seven years, right,
So yeah, yeah, I mean dudes are finding out Ron.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
It ain't Chris. It ain't easy to win.

Speaker 6 (37:06):
And that's why, that's why you help hold people to
amazing standards when they do because it really a bad
play Chris, or a ball pop out of the basket
that was halfway down, like so many things can happen,
player gets heard, so many different things can happen and
change everything. Can we squeeze Mitch and or it's too

(37:27):
late Mitch in New Jersey? Or on the eye couple
of Fox Sports where you got thirty seconds? Who you trash?

Speaker 1 (37:34):
How are we doing? How we doing?

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Guys trashing as the Clippers?

Speaker 8 (37:38):
I mean postseason and they want to bring back Harden.

Speaker 11 (37:44):
They got to be kidding me.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
They should be telling right now.

Speaker 11 (37:46):
Don't bother he spent the muse on somebody else I didn't.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
They should the way they treat the fans, they should
just apply to n I T every year, same results.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
There you go. Thanks, Mitch appreciated. We knew that he
had called for the Clippers.

Speaker 6 (37:59):
He's a big time Clipper fan living in New Jersey
probably exit away from you.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
Chris, Yep, yep, yep. All right, we got an hour
left here on the idd couple.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Keep it lock, Fox Sports Radio, the iHeartRadio app or
Serious exim Channel eighty three, however you may be listening.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
The Knicks prevail. How far can they go?

Speaker 5 (38:24):
That's next
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