November 16, 2018 • 31 mins
It's the Best of the Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! Chris and Rob explain why they believe the Green Bay Packers should fire head coach Mike McCarthy at the end of the season, and former Packers wide receiver-turned-NFL Network analyst James Jones stops by to explain why McCarthy has to expect that his days are numbered in Green Bay, especially after last night's ugly loss to the Seahawks on national TV. Plus, hip hop legend Biz Markie stops by our Celebrity Corner to discuss the evolution of hip-hop, how sports and rap music have intersected over the years, and why he believes LeBron James will lead the Lakers to a championship in the near future.
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s R. You're listening to the best of the on
Coup with Chris Brush and Rod Harker. Last night, I
already mentioned it. Green Bay Packers tough loss to the
Seattle Seahawks twenty seven twenty four in a game they're
going in. Most people say it was essentially an elimination game.
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Now Packers aren't technically at right, not mathematically, they're not
out of anything. They just have not been playing with
their four or five and ones or they have to
make a nice run though the problem is is that
they're um undefeated, undefeated at home. But they but they
lost off broken and there have been some bad ones
where I think the Washington was a tie right when
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that in DC was it the Washington right? And then
and then they lost to the Lions when uh Mason
Crosby missed those four or five field goals. So that
was another game that they should have won if he
made half of the field goals or whatever. But anyway, yeah,
so it has been bad for you. Are you making excuses? No,
I'm not. I'm just just telling it like it is, okay,
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putting it off there. Well, nobody's making excuses for Mike McCarthy,
the head coach, and he is catching a lot of
heat now and uh, mainly for a fourth and two
car where they had the ball at their own thirty three.
The game was on the line a little over four
minutes left. That wasn't that a first guest? Didn't you go,
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what are you doing? No question? That's why question. Four
minutes left down with the great quarterback like Aaron Rodd,
you have one time left and your defense, which was
banged up last night, was giving up five yards to carry,
so three and it's the best Russian team in the
league anyway, So three or four carries and the game
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is over because you can't really stop the clock, right,
So that's why you couldn't really give them the ball back, right,
And he made that decision at gamble and the backfire
they never saw the ball again. So a lot of
people but there was another thing him for that. Well,
the Tyler Lockett catch that looked like a non catch.
It looked like it bobbled like like into the ground, right,
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And uh, you know, it's so hard to judge nowadays
what's the catch and what more even more so, what
the officials are going to call a catch. But it
seems like there's universal sentiment that McCarthy should have challenged
that and he would have won, right, and he didn't.
It was a thirty four yard completion that set up
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the final score, to go ahead score for Seattle. You
don't know what would have happened if you took that away,
you know what I mean. And I'm not saying they
take that away. It's might not have Maybe you stop him.
I mean again, their defense is leaky, but you certainly
gotta go for it. Now. You know, he only had
one time out left. If he loses the challenge, doesn't
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so I guess that's what he was thinking. But uh,
Mike McCarthy, look, and there's other things. I mean, if
you go throughout the whole year, they haven't really been
good on third down. Uh, their execution has not been
up to snuff. And Rob, let's just say it. I
think barring a miraculous turnaround and and maybe not miraculous,
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but barring a really good turnaround and then making the playoffs,
I think Mike McCarthy has to go. I do not
disagree with you. In fact, I think the Packers should
fire McCarthy at the end of this year. It's been
a long timeless regardless even if they just bowl exactly
unless they make a Super Bowl run or something. He's
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been here a long a long time. I don't know exactly,
thirteen years, A long time in anna fella be a coach. Yeah,
and they won a Super Bowl and they've always won
the division. And I give you he's been there for
that long because he's produced. But the last few years
just haven't felt the same, No, and sometimes you just
need another voice. It'll be the second straight year and
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not granted last year you didn't have. But you know
what I'm saying, and you're saying, you're right on the money,
because it doesn't mean he's a bad or then he
couldn't get a job somewhere else, right because this talk
that maybe he'll go to Cleveland because you know, in
Baker Mayfield, because he worked with Aaron, he worked with
Brett Farr. He worked with Aaron Rodgers. So so Baker
Mayfield fits that mole and maybe you know you you
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go and you hire him, and then you're bringing to Cleveland.
You're also bringing a coach who has a Super Bowl
under his belt, so you know what I mean. Like so,
although the last time they went to the Green Bay
for a hire didn't work. Yeah, but still McCarthy would
be a good choice at least on paper for the
Cleveland Browns. But the point you make is, and this
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happens in mini sports. Pat the Great pat Riley even
said it. He was one of the first that I
remember to say, sometimes they just get tired of your voice. Yes,
and that's why he stepped down from the Los Angeles Lakers.
That was a championship test the showtime Lakers. They stopped
listening to, right the Great pat Riley. So Northon McCarthy
is not a good coach, although there are things you
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can certainly question, but I'm with you, right, I just
think it's sour. It's time to try something new. You've
got one of the best quarterbacks of all time, You've
you've got a team. Now you got a receiver, DeVante Adams,
who's really starting to come into his own. He's a stud. Yeah,
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they they and heck, Aaron Jones has actually been running
the ball pretty well. And you know it's weird is
their defense is better than it has been in years.
Their defense is good, and yet they got playmakers in
the back, you know what I mean, a secondary. Uh,
they got a good defense. And yet therefore War five
in one and right now look to be on the
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outside looking in as far as the playoffs. And so yeah,
I would make a change. I would. And here's the thing.
I would sit down with Aaron Rodgers. Now I'm not
saying I wouldn't let him hand pick the coach, but
I would definitely pick his brain, which is something that
they have not done in a lot of major decisions.
And don't forget they got rid of Ted Thompson there
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a long time GM and was really good at drafting.
And you remember they never used to get free agents.
They used to always these are all whole grown players, right,
and they were always good and could win. So they've
stepped away from that, which makes me think that McCarthy
could be next. Because if Ted Thompson could get let go,
then I think and I think he got bumped out
of this chair, but he's still with the organization. But
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the thing you talked about, Pat Rowley, I think when
you know like people, they don't hear you anymore. I
believe if Mike McCarthy is talking to the Green Bay Packers,
this is what they hear. The don't know what I mean.
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They don't hear you anymore. I don't disagree. I don't disagree.
And that's why I think it's time for a new
coach in Green Bay. Be sure to catch live editions
of The Odd Couple with Chris Brussard and Rob Parker
weekdays at seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. But you say he's
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just a friend, But you say he's just the baby,
He's just a friend. But do you say he's just
a friend. Alright, it's time for celebrity Corner. My god,
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I know, for the Odd Couple. Celebrity Corner. Every Friday,
of course, we do a celebrity Corner, and we've had
some great guests. But I'm gonna be I'm gonna be dead, honest.
There are very few that I've been as excited for
as the guests that we have on Now. I'm a
hip hop head and to have Biz marquee on the
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celebrity corner is just fantastic. So Biz, welcome to the
Eye Couple. Man, how you doing? Welcome the Eye Couple. Ah,
that's a good name. You already know growing up in
New York Channel eleven eleven PM, Monday through Friday. You
watched it. We all watched it. Hey, it's eleven o'clock.
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Where are your kids? You know it? You know it, Biz.
I go back with you all the way to make
the music with your mouth. Nobody beats the BIS. And
of course you know the hit that I guess really
blew you up with just a friend, right right? Yeah?
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What what? Obviously you were a rapper, not a singer.
What made you think though, that you singing in that
song would blow up and be a great song. Here's
what happened. Like TJ Swan that sing make the music
Nobody beats the BIS. I asked him to sing it,
and I wanted to make like another mix the music,
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but he he said, no, I'm doing my album. So
I asked him, I asked Hobby Shure, and I think
I asked Keith sweat, and none of them came, so
I had to do it myself. So I was gonna
be I mean with those they were legit singers, so
it wasn't gonna be kind of funny, you know, as
it turned out when you sang it I did. I
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did the record as a serious record. I didn't do
it as a funny record. I tried to make like
an Ny Love type of record, right right right. It
is just that the way the video did it just
came out funny. Well it was dope, man, it was
how about nobody Nobody beats? The biziness? Was that from
the TV they no why beast to wis TV commercial?
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Oh yeah, that was from the commercial. See what happened
when I was doing that. When me and Marley was
doing that record, I wanted to make like a record.
I liked it Steve Miller. I liked the Steve Miller band,
and I was playing that run. DMC didn't use it
because they just used walked this way right when I
found I didn't use it. I just used it. So biz.
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You know a lot of people ask this, who are
your top five MC's of all time? I can't really
tell you a top five A MC because everybody was
great in a time, like you know Kaz in the eighties,
has Modi and Mellie Mel was great, but they was
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great at a time. Slick Rick, a lot of people
don't understand what's great where he was dominating at a time.
You know, Kane, rock Him, Me and rock Him used
to be in a group together, so I know he
was great. Big Daddy Came was great. There was a
lot of people great, like it's us. Like people always
trying to say Tupac and Uh Biggie, but they died
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before that time, right, right, So you were in the
band with Rock Kim and obviously you were with you
you know, worked with Big Daddy Kane. They had a
little beef. It was always a question of which one
of those two. They both all time grace, but which
one was better? What you're feeling on both of those guys, Uh,
in their in their competition, it was not it was
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more outside people beat It wasn't They was beet and
they was cool. But the thing is, Big Daddy Came
a totally different rapper than Uh, than Rock Kim. Rock
Him was a real deep cool brother. Uh. Big Daddy
Came was in your face like in your face, throwing
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the metaphors that you really understand streetwise, while Kim was
real tea, but he had rhymes that you had to
rewind and say what it is? Right? It is the
odd couple on Fox Sports Radio Celebrity Corner, our guest
Hip Hop legend Biz Marquis. His Twitter is at biz
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Marquis and Biz We're the same age, and I'm just curious.
I remember first hearing sugar Hill Gang and you know
what people, most people think is the first rap song
and how the fact is okay, But I remember hearing
that one, and I remember calling my sister into my
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room and saying, listen to this on the radio because
it's something so unique, something I never heard. Did you
have any kind of experience like that with that song
or no? Nah. The reason I didn't have experience with
that song because I was into real tapes, the cassettes
at the time. You had the El Brothers, you had
the Furious four with Grandmaster Flash, you had break Out,
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you know what I mean. You had tapes. So when
that when Number two records came out, we didn't look
at them like that because the street dudes you would
like the tapes the cassettes like you lived in queens
so you had like Infinity machine, you know what I mean?
I got you calls bi yeah, biz. I was recently
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watching it was a great movie on Roxanne Schantay. Obviously
you know great MC from queens Bridge, and but I
didn't think that that movie gave as good as it
was that it gave you an mc shan y'all just
do did you? But the reason the reason that it
was about Chantey, So the focus was on Chantey Shan
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before me. I got down with Shan, and then Kate
moved me with Sean Tay because um, Molly Molly broke
up with Shanty, so they moved me over there, and
Molly wasn't going out on the road whether no more.
I had to come in and do the beatbox and
do whatever I had to do. Now, how in the
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world could you be from Strong Island and you're a
Vikings and Laker fan? Explain that to me that you
don't have any New York teams as your love. First
of all, um, I'm from Colonial Projects by the Polar Grounds. Okay,
so kareem up, dude Jabbar. At the time of Lou
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Uh Lou Ausinda was from from around our way. That
we all you always follow the home, the home dude
that goes to a team. So you know, in the beginning,
I was with Milwaukee, then he went to the Lakers.
Did you follow? You follow your hometown person. Second of all,
I always loved the Vikings because that they had like
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the purple people eaters, and they were just exciting. They
might not even win the Super Bowl. They was they was.
They was just exciting. I just left the Vikings. Eagles
are like too. The Eagles are like too. I'm glad
you said that about the Vikings because they lost four
Super Bowls. They used to get there, they just couldn't win.
I'm just, hey, you know what I'm looking for. I
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want them to get there now right. You'd be happy
with that, were you? Yeah, let's talk. Hey, yeah, let's
talk to sports. Yeah, let's talk. I know by that
were you? Were you much of an athlete growing up? Yeah?
I used to play at school. I used to play.
I used to play football, baseball, basketball in school. But
then when the hip hop came out, I just I said,
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let me just get my grades and get you know,
get my diploma, because I wanted to just be hip hop.
So I started the beat Box in Long Island and
Dougie star than New York and Buffy started in Brooklyn,
and you know it just took from there. My parents
was like, why are you in that? Stop? Is there
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a first? I mean, I think the Fat Boys, but
Buffy were the first kind of the game noticed that, y'all. Okay, yeah, okay,
we didn't we didn't have we didn't get the record right,
but Buffy had to. Buffy was the first big thing
to come out, you know, you know, a better wreck company.
So you and Douggie just started, did y'all? Like, how
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did you come up with the idea to do the
beat box? I've been doing in eighth grade, ninth grade
in school, I got I got failed with me and
talent shows, the Gong Show all that. Um, that's all.
You know. I've been doing this, but Dougie been doing
it too, So I say he's first, I'm second. Okay, right,
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that's cool. And getting back to sports, are you a
big Lebron James fan? Now that you're such a Laker guy,
are you happy he's in Los Angeles? You think they're
gonna have a shot to win the championship. I think
they're gonna have a shot like the next two to
three years. He's gonna be an old man by then. Uh,
he's gonna be an old man by then by NBA standards. Nah,
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but he's a he's a young he's a young, strong dude.
So who are you look out? You know how they
were playing last year, Look how they're playing this year.
You gotta think this the first playing with them. They
look good, They look good. Who are you hoping more?
We only need one more person? What good? That's what
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I want to know. Who you hear names out there?
Kevin Durant, Kawhim Butler, Anthony Davis. Who you think is
gonna join them? Or who would you prefer? I think
I will have either Anthony Davis or um, I will
have Durant. Why why don't you just have the Warriors
move on and join the Lakers so that y'all can
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give them bron jan what y'all want. I don't even
understand this the competition. First of all, you know that
you know that the Lakers got that money. Though they
got the money. The thing, it's the fast thing that
we got rid of Luiu thing and a couple of
other people with the big the big contract right A wrong, No,
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that's right, that's right. What's the tall white boy that
we got rid of. He came from Timothy Myles Golf. Okay,
look at all that money when we got rid of
all right, look on this question, do you this big
Laker fan, who's better Kobe or Lebron? Kobe really realize
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the read and I love Lebron and all that, but
Kobe got to killer instinct. That's one thing you can't
you can't teach that another thing. Do you remember that
he was going to court for that case. He was
coming back dropping forty every night? He was so so Biz,
are you the guy in LA who's been marking up
the murals that have Lebron on? It? Is that? You? Na?
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That's not me. I like LEBRONA that out the rich.
But you know, I've been on Lebron since he came
I did his first party when he came out of
when he when he came out of high school, when
and Maurice correct was there? You why that's right? Biz?
What are there any mcs that you know like that
everybody would know that can really hoop? Like really not
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I could really hoop sounds like not not probably not? Um,
what's the dude? Silk shot? Who? Yeah? Master p and
on the masterpiece pretty good too? He was okay from
bell who? Okay? So the singers, the singers are better
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than the round nah, I mean the rappers. I mean
then you got a couple of rappers. You gotta see
them play? Will Smith can ball Will Smith? Yeah? All right?
So so biz you got you are currently on the
decades collide eighties and nineties too, ur eighties versus nineties,
tour eighties versus nineties, turk what happens? What I do
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is I have a like a retro band and IDJ,
then a retro band then IDJ. But you have to
be there to see it. Guarantee you like it. And
ain't no new school music, straight old school, so all
the good stuff do you like? We are robbing I
in Los Angeles, so when you when you come to
La Man, we want to definitely be there. I'm I'm
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doing Anaheim on the twenty four. Okay, all right? And
how can people get tickets? Um? They either get it
at uh oh you're just going that you go on
the website, all right, right, okay, or you can pay.
Had to do that. I put the tickets cheap because
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I want people to see it and I'm filming it,
so it ain't like it's crazy. It's like fifteen twenty okay,
great man, and then all of them been sold. It's
like on my six or seven years doing it. Okay,
all right, well, Biz, we appreciate you joining us on
the couple. Man, We really enjoyed it. And keep doing
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your thing with the DJ and and the tour. Yeah,
but I want to come back going in and Talk sports.
For next time, we'll have you on again for real.
Make sure we got your your number with our producer.
We'll definitely have you on the Talk Sports because I look,
I think the Lakers are the second best team in
the West. Yeah, like who I mean after Golden State.
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Of the moment, it's great. You know they jailed. You
gotta think this is the first couple of months with
these young boys. They can't be Golden State, but they
can be everybody else. I think. All but look looking up,
Look how Javal McGee playing. You know he used to
wasn't playing like that. Now he balling, he baling, he
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got we got Tyson. Chandler tried to Chandling like a
young boy. Right now, y'all are good for Western Conference finalist.
That's what I'm saying. I predicted fifty three wins. Lebron's MVP.
He's not gonna be MVP, but they might get the
fifty three wins. Rob's gonna hate. But I think, just wait,
we'll talk, but we'll talk later on in the sea,
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like you know, like Lebron biz, I'm just keeping it
real one the last when the last time we see
somebody like Lebrons never he's the second best player ever
after Jordan. Yeah, but you gotta say he passes and everything.
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I just think that I think that he's starting to
get the real killer instinct now like Kobe has that
with it that I'm not letting it go down like that, right,
and so you must think it's something in the La water.
Then watch you see, You'll see all right? You know
who can talk about Lebron seriously? Between us, nobody can
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stop him. The free throw line, forget them, forget them.
And he gotta start hitting his free throws, right if
you that cool? We didn't text him. He gotta start
hitting his free throws at the end of the games.
First of all, it's the beginning of the sea watch
Watch after January February, everything gonna be attached. Plus we
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probably you know that they're gonna just let it go down.
We're gonna trade somebody to get somebody. All right, we'll see. Well,
we will have you on later in the season as
the playoffs near, and we definitely gonna get into it.
We want to talk, We want to talk, all right,
brother Peace Bills. We appreciate it. Thank you. Letter. Be
sure to catch live editions of the ONDCA with Chris
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Brussard and Rob Parker week days at seven pm Eastern
four pm Pacific. It's a great time to bring in
our next guest, James Jones, super Bowl champion, NFL Network
analyst and of course former Green Bay Packer and James.
We saw the game last night. Tough loss for the Packers,
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and a lot of people are criticizing coach Mike McCarthy's performance,
not going forward on fourth and two with a little
over four minutes left, they never get the ball back.
He doesn't call for a replay of the Tyler Locket catch,
which a lot of people said it looked like it
was a drop, look like it hit the ground. Yeah,
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what what do you make of last night and the
team man? Mike McCarthy. Um, Well, first of I'm gonna
start off with coach Mike McCarthy. You challenge one play
on the third down when Buddy potted and off of
the ball out of bounds. They called that a catch,
and then nowadays, I mean every catch that you see
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if the guy has the ball and you know he
falls to the ground and it moves, of the time,
they've been saying that that has been a catch. And
he only had one time out left and he probably
didn't want to jeopardize that time out if he didn't
get it. So I understand not challenging to play. But
what I don't understand is how it's fourth and two,
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you have the best quarterback in the game and you
do not go for it. And I know what statistics say, well,
if you're in this situation, you don't try to let
your defense stop them, and you get the ball back
with a minute the twenty seconds left and you could
go down and score. I understand all that, but at
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that point in the game, I feel like coach Mike
McCarthy should have understand where the game was going. See
I don't just have the ball. They drove it down
the field and scored on your defense made it look easy.
Do not give the ball right back to Russell Wilson.
Let Aaron go for it, and then if you don't
get it, you try to stop him. If you hold
him to a field goal, now you probably have a
minute left to go down there and score a touchdown.
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But you have to go for it. In that situation,
the season is on the line, You're trying to make
a play, get a win on the road. I feel
like you have to go for it. Keep the ball
in there, understand no doubt about it. Especially when the
defense was given up five yards to carry. There was
no way they were going to stop them and stop
the clock. But Chris and I both agree on this.
We don't agree on a lot, but we think Mike
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McCarthy's time in Green Bay has come and gone and
they probably should be looking to fire him and bring
somebody new, something fresh. Is that crazy? I know he
want a Super Bowl, but it just seems like things
are staling green Bay. Well, I want to say it's
crazy because I played for coach Mike for eight years
and I understand what type of coach he is. I mean,
he's a very very very good coach, but we all
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understand the business as well, and even Coach Michael tell you,
if we don't win, all of our jobs are in jeopardy.
So he understands being head coach of the Green Bay
Packers that comes with winning, and right now they're not
doing that. And I want to say that, I feel
like if Coach Mike doesn't make the playoffs that it
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could be a chance that he's out of here. And
the only reason why I say that is because I
don't know how this new GM works and it's gonna
move now. I said time I'm told us still the GM,
I would say, don't even talk about fire, and Coach
Mike is not gonna happen. Him and Ted are in
this thing for the long haul. But I don't know
what the new GM is thinking and I don't know
how he's gonna work it. But I think Coach Mike
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is gonna be in trouble if they do not make
the playoffs. I think the GEM will probably take a
hard look at it. I hope Coach Mike is a
coach of the Green Bay Packers because I truly do
believe in him. I know it's been a lot of
controversy and all that stuff out there, but I believe
in him. I belief he's a great head coaching. Could
bring another Super Bowl to Green Bay. But I said
it comes with winning. So we'll see what happens, all right.
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It's the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio James Joe
own super Bowl champion, NFL network analysts is our guests,
uh and McCarthy is their chance. It's a lot of
talk about him maybe going to Cleveland. Have you heard
that as well? That maybe uh he can go there
and uh and and and get things turned around in Cleveland.
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You know, I don't know, man. I know everybody seeing
Green Bay tides over there, but I mean should When
I hit Free Agency, I'm like day and all these
all these Green Bay people are here in Kansas City.
You got more green green Green Bay people up here.
I'm like, man, I'm about to break the paint. You
know what I can do? None of them call, you know,
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so you can think, oh, you want to think that
the Green Bay packers, But those guys could be going
on a whole new plan already kind a die in
mind that they want so U. I wouldn't just say
this because it's green Bay tides over there that coach
Micha McCarthy will get the job. And I know coach
Michae McCarthy still wants to be here in Green Bay.
But if it wasn't to work out here green Bay,
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I'm not just gonna say, oh, yeah, he's going through
Cleveland brows because I thought that a lot when I
came out to it, and none of that happened. So
we're just gonna have to see and let it play out.
And I don't know if John Dorsey feels like, Okay,
let's bring coach Mike over here. But if he does,
I mean, listen, I've seen coach Mike, you know, work
with Aaron, work with Bread. I think you know, the
offense that we run in Green Bay will definitely be
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good for Baker James Greg Jenny's former Packers receiver like yourself.
He said today, he's our FS one colleague. That Aaron
Rodgers is obviously great when the ad lives, when he
gets outside of the game plan or you know, on
any given play, but he struggles a little bit when
it's more structured than you know, doing the play and
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everything as it's as it's set to be. Do you
feel the same way? No? And I really know what
I'm saying. Yes, And the reason why I say no,
it is because I've seen Aaron Rodgers make some of
the best throws I've never seen inside the pocket, and
I've seen him make some of the best throws i've
seen outside pocket. And I've seen, just like Greg Jennings
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has seen Aaron Rodgers in practice, step on his back
foot and let the ball go, you know what I'm saying.
And that's one of the reasons why I have over
fifty touchdowns right now that Greg Jennings has over sixty
seventy touchdowns. You know what I'm saying, is because he's
delivering the ball in time. So I would have to
disagree with Grigg on that because I've seen him make
some of the most ridiculousest throws inside the pocket and
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outside the pocket. Now, I do know that Aaron Rodgers
knows that he's special outside the pocket. So it could
be times where he's like, okay, it might be there,
but before the play even starts, his plan is, look,
let me get outside the pocket and the play is
gonna be bigger. But you're talking about one of the
special players in the National Football League, maybe ever throwing
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the ball, man, So he can do it all inside
and outside the pocket. Hey, James, we got thirty seconds.
I think Aaron Rodgers the best quarterback I've ever seen.
I'm talking about skills set. And you know there's always
the Brady conversation with wins. If you had to score
a touchdown with a couple two minutes to go, who
would you rather have the ball? Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady.
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I'm taking Aaron Rodgers, no questions and ask And it's
not just because I played with him, But like you say, man,
he's just pure talent. He is a special quarterback, and
he can do it all inside and outside of the pocket.
And I need somebody, man and a two minute drive.
When the play back down, he can get outside of
that pocket and make a play as well, whether it's
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with his legs or whether it's throwing the ball down
the field. So I'm absolutely taking Aaron Rodgers, man. But
as everybody knows, I'm a little bit biased because I played,
no doubt, all right, James, we appreciate it, man, great job,
Have a good weekend.
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s R. You're listening to the best of the on
Coup with Chris Brush and Rod Harker. Last night, I
already mentioned it. Green Bay Packers tough loss to the
Seattle Seahawks twenty seven twenty four in a game they're
going in. Most people say it was essentially an elimination game.
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Now Packers aren't technically at right, not mathematically, they're not
out of anything. They just have not been playing with
their four or five and ones or they have to
make a nice run though the problem is is that
they're um undefeated, undefeated at home. But they but they
lost off broken and there have been some bad ones
where I think the Washington was a tie right when
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that in DC was it the Washington right? And then
and then they lost to the Lions when uh Mason
Crosby missed those four or five field goals. So that
was another game that they should have won if he
made half of the field goals or whatever. But anyway, yeah,
so it has been bad for you. Are you making excuses? No,
I'm not. I'm just just telling it like it is, okay,
(01:25):
putting it off there. Well, nobody's making excuses for Mike McCarthy,
the head coach, and he is catching a lot of
heat now and uh, mainly for a fourth and two
car where they had the ball at their own thirty three.
The game was on the line a little over four
minutes left. That wasn't that a first guest? Didn't you go,
(01:46):
what are you doing? No question? That's why question. Four
minutes left down with the great quarterback like Aaron Rodd,
you have one time left and your defense, which was
banged up last night, was giving up five yards to carry,
so three and it's the best Russian team in the
league anyway, So three or four carries and the game
(02:06):
is over because you can't really stop the clock, right,
So that's why you couldn't really give them the ball back, right,
And he made that decision at gamble and the backfire
they never saw the ball again. So a lot of
people but there was another thing him for that. Well,
the Tyler Lockett catch that looked like a non catch.
It looked like it bobbled like like into the ground, right,
(02:29):
And uh, you know, it's so hard to judge nowadays
what's the catch and what more even more so, what
the officials are going to call a catch. But it
seems like there's universal sentiment that McCarthy should have challenged
that and he would have won, right, and he didn't.
It was a thirty four yard completion that set up
(02:49):
the final score, to go ahead score for Seattle. You
don't know what would have happened if you took that away,
you know what I mean. And I'm not saying they
take that away. It's might not have Maybe you stop him.
I mean again, their defense is leaky, but you certainly
gotta go for it. Now. You know, he only had
one time out left. If he loses the challenge, doesn't
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so I guess that's what he was thinking. But uh,
Mike McCarthy, look, and there's other things. I mean, if
you go throughout the whole year, they haven't really been
good on third down. Uh, their execution has not been
up to snuff. And Rob, let's just say it. I
think barring a miraculous turnaround and and maybe not miraculous,
(03:32):
but barring a really good turnaround and then making the playoffs,
I think Mike McCarthy has to go. I do not
disagree with you. In fact, I think the Packers should
fire McCarthy at the end of this year. It's been
a long timeless regardless even if they just bowl exactly
unless they make a Super Bowl run or something. He's
(03:54):
been here a long a long time. I don't know exactly,
thirteen years, A long time in anna fella be a coach. Yeah,
and they won a Super Bowl and they've always won
the division. And I give you he's been there for
that long because he's produced. But the last few years
just haven't felt the same, No, and sometimes you just
need another voice. It'll be the second straight year and
(04:15):
not granted last year you didn't have. But you know
what I'm saying, and you're saying, you're right on the money,
because it doesn't mean he's a bad or then he
couldn't get a job somewhere else, right because this talk
that maybe he'll go to Cleveland because you know, in
Baker Mayfield, because he worked with Aaron, he worked with
Brett Farr. He worked with Aaron Rodgers. So so Baker
Mayfield fits that mole and maybe you know you you
(04:38):
go and you hire him, and then you're bringing to Cleveland.
You're also bringing a coach who has a Super Bowl
under his belt, so you know what I mean. Like so,
although the last time they went to the Green Bay
for a hire didn't work. Yeah, but still McCarthy would
be a good choice at least on paper for the
Cleveland Browns. But the point you make is, and this
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happens in mini sports. Pat the Great pat Riley even
said it. He was one of the first that I
remember to say, sometimes they just get tired of your voice. Yes,
and that's why he stepped down from the Los Angeles Lakers.
That was a championship test the showtime Lakers. They stopped
listening to, right the Great pat Riley. So Northon McCarthy
is not a good coach, although there are things you
(05:22):
can certainly question, but I'm with you, right, I just
think it's sour. It's time to try something new. You've
got one of the best quarterbacks of all time, You've
you've got a team. Now you got a receiver, DeVante Adams,
who's really starting to come into his own. He's a stud. Yeah,
(05:42):
they they and heck, Aaron Jones has actually been running
the ball pretty well. And you know it's weird is
their defense is better than it has been in years.
Their defense is good, and yet they got playmakers in
the back, you know what I mean, a secondary. Uh,
they got a good defense. And yet therefore War five
in one and right now look to be on the
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outside looking in as far as the playoffs. And so yeah,
I would make a change. I would. And here's the thing.
I would sit down with Aaron Rodgers. Now I'm not
saying I wouldn't let him hand pick the coach, but
I would definitely pick his brain, which is something that
they have not done in a lot of major decisions.
And don't forget they got rid of Ted Thompson there
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a long time GM and was really good at drafting.
And you remember they never used to get free agents.
They used to always these are all whole grown players, right,
and they were always good and could win. So they've
stepped away from that, which makes me think that McCarthy
could be next. Because if Ted Thompson could get let go,
then I think and I think he got bumped out
of this chair, but he's still with the organization. But
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the thing you talked about, Pat Rowley, I think when
you know like people, they don't hear you anymore. I
believe if Mike McCarthy is talking to the Green Bay Packers,
this is what they hear. The don't know what I mean.
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They don't hear you anymore. I don't disagree. I don't disagree.
And that's why I think it's time for a new
coach in Green Bay. Be sure to catch live editions
of The Odd Couple with Chris Brussard and Rob Parker
weekdays at seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. But you say he's
(07:29):
just a friend, But you say he's just the baby,
He's just a friend. But do you say he's just
a friend. Alright, it's time for celebrity Corner. My god,
(07:50):
I know, for the Odd Couple. Celebrity Corner. Every Friday,
of course, we do a celebrity Corner, and we've had
some great guests. But I'm gonna be I'm gonna be dead, honest.
There are very few that I've been as excited for
as the guests that we have on Now. I'm a
hip hop head and to have Biz marquee on the
(08:14):
celebrity corner is just fantastic. So Biz, welcome to the
Eye Couple. Man, how you doing? Welcome the Eye Couple. Ah,
that's a good name. You already know growing up in
New York Channel eleven eleven PM, Monday through Friday. You
watched it. We all watched it. Hey, it's eleven o'clock.
(08:37):
Where are your kids? You know it? You know it, Biz.
I go back with you all the way to make
the music with your mouth. Nobody beats the BIS. And
of course you know the hit that I guess really
blew you up with just a friend, right right? Yeah?
(08:57):
What what? Obviously you were a rapper, not a singer.
What made you think though, that you singing in that
song would blow up and be a great song. Here's
what happened. Like TJ Swan that sing make the music
Nobody beats the BIS. I asked him to sing it,
and I wanted to make like another mix the music,
(09:18):
but he he said, no, I'm doing my album. So
I asked him, I asked Hobby Shure, and I think
I asked Keith sweat, and none of them came, so
I had to do it myself. So I was gonna
be I mean with those they were legit singers, so
it wasn't gonna be kind of funny, you know, as
it turned out when you sang it I did. I
(09:40):
did the record as a serious record. I didn't do
it as a funny record. I tried to make like
an Ny Love type of record, right right right. It
is just that the way the video did it just
came out funny. Well it was dope, man, it was
how about nobody Nobody beats? The biziness? Was that from
the TV they no why beast to wis TV commercial?
(10:02):
Oh yeah, that was from the commercial. See what happened
when I was doing that. When me and Marley was
doing that record, I wanted to make like a record.
I liked it Steve Miller. I liked the Steve Miller band,
and I was playing that run. DMC didn't use it
because they just used walked this way right when I
found I didn't use it. I just used it. So biz.
(10:26):
You know a lot of people ask this, who are
your top five MC's of all time? I can't really
tell you a top five A MC because everybody was
great in a time, like you know Kaz in the eighties,
has Modi and Mellie Mel was great, but they was
(10:51):
great at a time. Slick Rick, a lot of people
don't understand what's great where he was dominating at a time.
You know, Kane, rock Him, Me and rock Him used
to be in a group together, so I know he
was great. Big Daddy Came was great. There was a
lot of people great, like it's us. Like people always
trying to say Tupac and Uh Biggie, but they died
(11:14):
before that time, right, right, So you were in the
band with Rock Kim and obviously you were with you
you know, worked with Big Daddy Kane. They had a
little beef. It was always a question of which one
of those two. They both all time grace, but which
one was better? What you're feeling on both of those guys, Uh,
in their in their competition, it was not it was
(11:38):
more outside people beat It wasn't They was beet and
they was cool. But the thing is, Big Daddy Came
a totally different rapper than Uh, than Rock Kim. Rock
Him was a real deep cool brother. Uh. Big Daddy
Came was in your face like in your face, throwing
(12:04):
the metaphors that you really understand streetwise, while Kim was
real tea, but he had rhymes that you had to
rewind and say what it is? Right? It is the
odd couple on Fox Sports Radio Celebrity Corner, our guest
Hip Hop legend Biz Marquis. His Twitter is at biz
(12:24):
Marquis and Biz We're the same age, and I'm just curious.
I remember first hearing sugar Hill Gang and you know
what people, most people think is the first rap song
and how the fact is okay, But I remember hearing
that one, and I remember calling my sister into my
(12:48):
room and saying, listen to this on the radio because
it's something so unique, something I never heard. Did you
have any kind of experience like that with that song
or no? Nah. The reason I didn't have experience with
that song because I was into real tapes, the cassettes
at the time. You had the El Brothers, you had
the Furious four with Grandmaster Flash, you had break Out,
(13:12):
you know what I mean. You had tapes. So when
that when Number two records came out, we didn't look
at them like that because the street dudes you would
like the tapes the cassettes like you lived in queens
so you had like Infinity machine, you know what I mean?
I got you calls bi yeah, biz. I was recently
(13:36):
watching it was a great movie on Roxanne Schantay. Obviously
you know great MC from queens Bridge, and but I
didn't think that that movie gave as good as it
was that it gave you an mc shan y'all just
do did you? But the reason the reason that it
was about Chantey, So the focus was on Chantey Shan
(14:00):
before me. I got down with Shan, and then Kate
moved me with Sean Tay because um, Molly Molly broke
up with Shanty, so they moved me over there, and
Molly wasn't going out on the road whether no more.
I had to come in and do the beatbox and
do whatever I had to do. Now, how in the
(14:20):
world could you be from Strong Island and you're a
Vikings and Laker fan? Explain that to me that you
don't have any New York teams as your love. First
of all, um, I'm from Colonial Projects by the Polar Grounds. Okay,
so kareem up, dude Jabbar. At the time of Lou
(14:43):
Uh Lou Ausinda was from from around our way. That
we all you always follow the home, the home dude
that goes to a team. So you know, in the beginning,
I was with Milwaukee, then he went to the Lakers.
Did you follow? You follow your hometown person. Second of all,
I always loved the Vikings because that they had like
(15:06):
the purple people eaters, and they were just exciting. They
might not even win the Super Bowl. They was they was.
They was just exciting. I just left the Vikings. Eagles
are like too. The Eagles are like too. I'm glad
you said that about the Vikings because they lost four
Super Bowls. They used to get there, they just couldn't win.
I'm just, hey, you know what I'm looking for. I
(15:27):
want them to get there now right. You'd be happy
with that, were you? Yeah, let's talk. Hey, yeah, let's
talk to sports. Yeah, let's talk. I know by that
were you? Were you much of an athlete growing up? Yeah?
I used to play at school. I used to play.
I used to play football, baseball, basketball in school. But
then when the hip hop came out, I just I said,
(15:50):
let me just get my grades and get you know,
get my diploma, because I wanted to just be hip hop.
So I started the beat Box in Long Island and
Dougie star than New York and Buffy started in Brooklyn,
and you know it just took from there. My parents
was like, why are you in that? Stop? Is there
(16:10):
a first? I mean, I think the Fat Boys, but
Buffy were the first kind of the game noticed that, y'all. Okay, yeah, okay,
we didn't we didn't have we didn't get the record right,
but Buffy had to. Buffy was the first big thing
to come out, you know, you know, a better wreck company.
So you and Douggie just started, did y'all? Like, how
(16:32):
did you come up with the idea to do the
beat box? I've been doing in eighth grade, ninth grade
in school, I got I got failed with me and
talent shows, the Gong Show all that. Um, that's all.
You know. I've been doing this, but Dougie been doing
it too, So I say he's first, I'm second. Okay, right,
(16:53):
that's cool. And getting back to sports, are you a
big Lebron James fan? Now that you're such a Laker guy,
are you happy he's in Los Angeles? You think they're
gonna have a shot to win the championship. I think
they're gonna have a shot like the next two to
three years. He's gonna be an old man by then. Uh,
he's gonna be an old man by then by NBA standards. Nah,
(17:17):
but he's a he's a young he's a young, strong dude.
So who are you look out? You know how they
were playing last year, Look how they're playing this year.
You gotta think this the first playing with them. They
look good, They look good. Who are you hoping more?
We only need one more person? What good? That's what
(17:38):
I want to know. Who you hear names out there?
Kevin Durant, Kawhim Butler, Anthony Davis. Who you think is
gonna join them? Or who would you prefer? I think
I will have either Anthony Davis or um, I will
have Durant. Why why don't you just have the Warriors
move on and join the Lakers so that y'all can
(17:59):
give them bron jan what y'all want. I don't even
understand this the competition. First of all, you know that
you know that the Lakers got that money. Though they
got the money. The thing, it's the fast thing that
we got rid of Luiu thing and a couple of
other people with the big the big contract right A wrong, No,
(18:22):
that's right, that's right. What's the tall white boy that
we got rid of. He came from Timothy Myles Golf. Okay,
look at all that money when we got rid of
all right, look on this question, do you this big
Laker fan, who's better Kobe or Lebron? Kobe really realize
(18:47):
the read and I love Lebron and all that, but
Kobe got to killer instinct. That's one thing you can't
you can't teach that another thing. Do you remember that
he was going to court for that case. He was
coming back dropping forty every night? He was so so Biz,
are you the guy in LA who's been marking up
the murals that have Lebron on? It? Is that? You? Na?
(19:07):
That's not me. I like LEBRONA that out the rich.
But you know, I've been on Lebron since he came
I did his first party when he came out of
when he when he came out of high school, when
and Maurice correct was there? You why that's right? Biz?
What are there any mcs that you know like that
everybody would know that can really hoop? Like really not
(19:37):
I could really hoop sounds like not not probably not? Um,
what's the dude? Silk shot? Who? Yeah? Master p and
on the masterpiece pretty good too? He was okay from
bell who? Okay? So the singers, the singers are better
(19:59):
than the round nah, I mean the rappers. I mean
then you got a couple of rappers. You gotta see
them play? Will Smith can ball Will Smith? Yeah? All right?
So so biz you got you are currently on the
decades collide eighties and nineties too, ur eighties versus nineties,
tour eighties versus nineties, turk what happens? What I do
(20:20):
is I have a like a retro band and IDJ,
then a retro band then IDJ. But you have to
be there to see it. Guarantee you like it. And
ain't no new school music, straight old school, so all
the good stuff do you like? We are robbing I
in Los Angeles, so when you when you come to
La Man, we want to definitely be there. I'm I'm
(20:42):
doing Anaheim on the twenty four. Okay, all right? And
how can people get tickets? Um? They either get it
at uh oh you're just going that you go on
the website, all right, right, okay, or you can pay.
Had to do that. I put the tickets cheap because
(21:02):
I want people to see it and I'm filming it,
so it ain't like it's crazy. It's like fifteen twenty okay,
great man, and then all of them been sold. It's
like on my six or seven years doing it. Okay,
all right, well, Biz, we appreciate you joining us on
the couple. Man, We really enjoyed it. And keep doing
(21:24):
your thing with the DJ and and the tour. Yeah,
but I want to come back going in and Talk sports.
For next time, we'll have you on again for real.
Make sure we got your your number with our producer.
We'll definitely have you on the Talk Sports because I look,
I think the Lakers are the second best team in
the West. Yeah, like who I mean after Golden State.
(21:47):
Of the moment, it's great. You know they jailed. You
gotta think this is the first couple of months with
these young boys. They can't be Golden State, but they
can be everybody else. I think. All but look looking up,
Look how Javal McGee playing. You know he used to
wasn't playing like that. Now he balling, he baling, he
(22:08):
got we got Tyson. Chandler tried to Chandling like a
young boy. Right now, y'all are good for Western Conference finalist.
That's what I'm saying. I predicted fifty three wins. Lebron's MVP.
He's not gonna be MVP, but they might get the
fifty three wins. Rob's gonna hate. But I think, just wait,
we'll talk, but we'll talk later on in the sea,
(22:30):
like you know, like Lebron biz, I'm just keeping it
real one the last when the last time we see
somebody like Lebrons never he's the second best player ever
after Jordan. Yeah, but you gotta say he passes and everything.
(22:52):
I just think that I think that he's starting to
get the real killer instinct now like Kobe has that
with it that I'm not letting it go down like that, right,
and so you must think it's something in the La water.
Then watch you see, You'll see all right? You know
who can talk about Lebron seriously? Between us, nobody can
(23:16):
stop him. The free throw line, forget them, forget them.
And he gotta start hitting his free throws, right if
you that cool? We didn't text him. He gotta start
hitting his free throws at the end of the games.
First of all, it's the beginning of the sea watch
Watch after January February, everything gonna be attached. Plus we
(23:39):
probably you know that they're gonna just let it go down.
We're gonna trade somebody to get somebody. All right, we'll see. Well,
we will have you on later in the season as
the playoffs near, and we definitely gonna get into it.
We want to talk, We want to talk, all right,
brother Peace Bills. We appreciate it. Thank you. Letter. Be
sure to catch live editions of the ONDCA with Chris
(24:00):
Brussard and Rob Parker week days at seven pm Eastern
four pm Pacific. It's a great time to bring in
our next guest, James Jones, super Bowl champion, NFL Network
analyst and of course former Green Bay Packer and James.
We saw the game last night. Tough loss for the Packers,
(24:21):
and a lot of people are criticizing coach Mike McCarthy's performance,
not going forward on fourth and two with a little
over four minutes left, they never get the ball back.
He doesn't call for a replay of the Tyler Locket catch,
which a lot of people said it looked like it
was a drop, look like it hit the ground. Yeah,
(24:41):
what what do you make of last night and the
team man? Mike McCarthy. Um, Well, first of I'm gonna
start off with coach Mike McCarthy. You challenge one play
on the third down when Buddy potted and off of
the ball out of bounds. They called that a catch,
and then nowadays, I mean every catch that you see
(25:02):
if the guy has the ball and you know he
falls to the ground and it moves, of the time,
they've been saying that that has been a catch. And
he only had one time out left and he probably
didn't want to jeopardize that time out if he didn't
get it. So I understand not challenging to play. But
what I don't understand is how it's fourth and two,
(25:25):
you have the best quarterback in the game and you
do not go for it. And I know what statistics say, well,
if you're in this situation, you don't try to let
your defense stop them, and you get the ball back
with a minute the twenty seconds left and you could
go down and score. I understand all that, but at
(25:45):
that point in the game, I feel like coach Mike
McCarthy should have understand where the game was going. See
I don't just have the ball. They drove it down
the field and scored on your defense made it look easy.
Do not give the ball right back to Russell Wilson.
Let Aaron go for it, and then if you don't
get it, you try to stop him. If you hold
him to a field goal, now you probably have a
minute left to go down there and score a touchdown.
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But you have to go for it. In that situation,
the season is on the line, You're trying to make
a play, get a win on the road. I feel
like you have to go for it. Keep the ball
in there, understand no doubt about it. Especially when the
defense was given up five yards to carry. There was
no way they were going to stop them and stop
the clock. But Chris and I both agree on this.
We don't agree on a lot, but we think Mike
(26:28):
McCarthy's time in Green Bay has come and gone and
they probably should be looking to fire him and bring
somebody new, something fresh. Is that crazy? I know he
want a Super Bowl, but it just seems like things
are staling green Bay. Well, I want to say it's
crazy because I played for coach Mike for eight years
and I understand what type of coach he is. I mean,
he's a very very very good coach, but we all
(26:51):
understand the business as well, and even Coach Michael tell you,
if we don't win, all of our jobs are in jeopardy.
So he understands being head coach of the Green Bay
Packers that comes with winning, and right now they're not
doing that. And I want to say that, I feel
like if Coach Mike doesn't make the playoffs that it
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could be a chance that he's out of here. And
the only reason why I say that is because I
don't know how this new GM works and it's gonna
move now. I said time I'm told us still the GM,
I would say, don't even talk about fire, and Coach
Mike is not gonna happen. Him and Ted are in
this thing for the long haul. But I don't know
what the new GM is thinking and I don't know
how he's gonna work it. But I think Coach Mike
(27:35):
is gonna be in trouble if they do not make
the playoffs. I think the GEM will probably take a
hard look at it. I hope Coach Mike is a
coach of the Green Bay Packers because I truly do
believe in him. I know it's been a lot of
controversy and all that stuff out there, but I believe
in him. I belief he's a great head coaching. Could
bring another Super Bowl to Green Bay. But I said
it comes with winning. So we'll see what happens, all right.
(27:57):
It's the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio James Joe
own super Bowl champion, NFL network analysts is our guests,
uh and McCarthy is their chance. It's a lot of
talk about him maybe going to Cleveland. Have you heard
that as well? That maybe uh he can go there
and uh and and and get things turned around in Cleveland.
(28:19):
You know, I don't know, man. I know everybody seeing
Green Bay tides over there, but I mean should When
I hit Free Agency, I'm like day and all these
all these Green Bay people are here in Kansas City.
You got more green green Green Bay people up here.
I'm like, man, I'm about to break the paint. You
know what I can do? None of them call, you know,
(28:39):
so you can think, oh, you want to think that
the Green Bay packers, But those guys could be going
on a whole new plan already kind a die in
mind that they want so U. I wouldn't just say
this because it's green Bay tides over there that coach
Micha McCarthy will get the job. And I know coach
Michae McCarthy still wants to be here in Green Bay.
But if it wasn't to work out here green Bay,
(29:00):
I'm not just gonna say, oh, yeah, he's going through
Cleveland brows because I thought that a lot when I
came out to it, and none of that happened. So
we're just gonna have to see and let it play out.
And I don't know if John Dorsey feels like, Okay,
let's bring coach Mike over here. But if he does,
I mean, listen, I've seen coach Mike, you know, work
with Aaron, work with Bread. I think you know, the
offense that we run in Green Bay will definitely be
(29:21):
good for Baker James Greg Jenny's former Packers receiver like yourself.
He said today, he's our FS one colleague. That Aaron
Rodgers is obviously great when the ad lives, when he
gets outside of the game plan or you know, on
any given play, but he struggles a little bit when
it's more structured than you know, doing the play and
(29:41):
everything as it's as it's set to be. Do you
feel the same way? No? And I really know what
I'm saying. Yes, And the reason why I say no,
it is because I've seen Aaron Rodgers make some of
the best throws I've never seen inside the pocket, and
I've seen him make some of the best throws i've
seen outside pocket. And I've seen, just like Greg Jennings
(30:02):
has seen Aaron Rodgers in practice, step on his back
foot and let the ball go, you know what I'm saying.
And that's one of the reasons why I have over
fifty touchdowns right now that Greg Jennings has over sixty
seventy touchdowns. You know what I'm saying, is because he's
delivering the ball in time. So I would have to
disagree with Grigg on that because I've seen him make
some of the most ridiculousest throws inside the pocket and
(30:25):
outside the pocket. Now, I do know that Aaron Rodgers
knows that he's special outside the pocket. So it could
be times where he's like, okay, it might be there,
but before the play even starts, his plan is, look,
let me get outside the pocket and the play is
gonna be bigger. But you're talking about one of the
special players in the National Football League, maybe ever throwing
(30:45):
the ball, man, So he can do it all inside
and outside the pocket. Hey, James, we got thirty seconds.
I think Aaron Rodgers the best quarterback I've ever seen.
I'm talking about skills set. And you know there's always
the Brady conversation with wins. If you had to score
a touchdown with a couple two minutes to go, who
would you rather have the ball? Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady.
(31:06):
I'm taking Aaron Rodgers, no questions and ask And it's
not just because I played with him, But like you say, man,
he's just pure talent. He is a special quarterback, and
he can do it all inside and outside of the pocket.
And I need somebody, man and a two minute drive.
When the play back down, he can get outside of
that pocket and make a play as well, whether it's
(31:27):
with his legs or whether it's throwing the ball down
the field. So I'm absolutely taking Aaron Rodgers, man. But
as everybody knows, I'm a little bit biased because I played,
no doubt, all right, James, we appreciate it, man, great job,
Have a good weekend.
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