April 4, 2021 • 48 mins
This week on Wins & Losses, Clay Travis is joined for a second time by comedian Nate Bargatze! Clay asks Nate about his new Netflix special, and all of the difficulties and oddities that he faced during the past year with COVID. Clay and Nate also dive into the world of college sports, as Nate is a huge Vanderbilt fan, and of course, they talk some Volunteer athletics as well.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is Wins and Losses with Clay Trevis. Clay talks
with the most entertaining people in sports, entertainment and business.
Now here's Clay Trevis. Welcome in Wins and Losses. It's
been a little while, been crazy busy with everything in
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the out Kick universe. But there's a brand new Netflix
comedy special up from Nate Bargatsky. I watched it last
week with my wife. We loved it. We were laughing
a lot, and I thought, I need to get Nate
back on the Wins and Losses programs. Have actually fascinated
how you film a comedy special in the middle of COVID,
And so we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna talk
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about his sports fandom and this conversation in general. I
think you will love it's Wins and Losses. If you
like this when, you'll like a lot more of them
as well. So dive in. Here's comedian Nate Bargatsky with
me on Wins and Losses. Joined now by Nate Bargatsky.
He's got a great Netflix comedy special that is up,
just debuted a couple of weeks ago. I watched it
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this time last week. I think and uh immediately texted you, Nate,
and I said, man, that was really really good. I
needed I think there's a lot of people out there
who need laughter right now, certainly more than ever. Uh So,
first of all, thanks are getting up early and uh
and hanging out with us. But I was so fascinated
by the way that this was filmed outdoors in l A.
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There's helicopters flying over the top of it. What was
the process like, so before you're telling any jokes and
anything else, Like, how was this set up? How long
did it take to tape? Tell me how you go
about filming a Netflix special like this? Uh? Yeah, well
appreciate it, buddy. I got your text and uh it
was This one was like much different because obviously was
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outside and with an audience hunter people audience had to
get COVID tested, they ought to wear masks, so it
was very difficult to dude that got the tickets that
very of funny. Had a guy email me and he
was like, Yo, what's with all the hoops to get
these tickets? As a kid, there's uh pandemnic like to
the point to show him like, well, there's a big
global pandemic that the earth is going with uh, So,
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I mean, you know, that's part of it, but it
was tough, Like the timing, Like the timing of it
is what's the hardest part, because you can't I can't
hear them laugh because we're outside. They got mask on,
and it's just laughter kind of just goes in the air.
And then also you can't see their faces, so you
can't see them smiling. So you're like up there like, dude,
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this might be they might hate this, and you're just
kind of going off like I know these jokes, I've
done them before, they've worked, and so you're just hoping
they're working. But so we time like you know, my
sets like timed out. So I timed it out. It
was like sixty four minutes. I was doing these drive
in movie theater days, and uh, I had it timed
out in the first show. We take two shows for
a special, and then the first show I did forty
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three minutes. It was that and that much was entered.
You was like gone with just the outside in the
mask and like we had helicopters fine over and like
all that kind of chaos. Like so it's like crazy
to see. I mean, I've had it happened. But you know,
you can fluctuate ten tif teen minutes, ten minutes maybe
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with no like if the crowds like crowds can be
fast laugher like they laugh quick and stop or whatever.
But it was pretty wild to go that. So then
usually when you take two shows, they tell you, I
mean every special I've done, they always go, we got it.
The first show, We're good, don't worry about it, have
fun on the second show, and then this show they
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were like, yeah, we do not have it. So the
second show is very important because you don't have to
do an hour. So that's actually really so were they
back to back? Like how much time is between the two?
Is it the same day? Are you performing the same hour,
different different crowding? Yeah, you just you you usually get
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everything from one show, so when you see a special,
it is most likely from one show, and you just
takee two just to be sure, uh you know, something
like this happens or who knows, And then they, you know,
maybe occasionally be like, I like the joke on the
first show better, the reaction was better, I said it better.
You know. Uh so usually but you have like an
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hour after, but I mean, right when I got off.
You know you nailed this out. I mean the second one,
I think, I yeah, you could tell. I mean it
was you know, you never feel I don't know when
you take them, you never feel specials are not it's
not the same as uh, regular show. Like it's it's
I don't know, there's just the pressure of like you
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gotta get it. Uh. And this was such a weird
kind of thing. Uh. And so you you don't like
when you when you get done, you're like, all right,
I think that was good, Like you just you're like,
I don't know. The last one. I felt really good
about the Tennessee Kid. That one I did, like I was,
I was running that material. That's the thing too, is
I mean I was. I had probably fifty more theater dates.
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I would have ran this hour in before the special,
and I mean lucky I got to do those drive
in and do it. And I had an hour built
before the special, I mean before COVID happened. I was
kind of already like I had an hour already. But
I mean normally you would have. And those reps are
super important because you just you you you tighten jokes up.
You find little things here and there. You maybe add
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a little bit, and and then you're doing these theater
shows and so normally you just kind of pick we're
a stop on your theater tour and you're like, we're filming,
Like we were going to film in Minneapolis, was the plan.
And then uh everything happened COVID and then all that stuff,
and so that that was like gone, and then I
didn't think I was gonna get its special, but then
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they said they could do it at Universal Studios, and
so I was like, you know what, I'll just I
wanted to be done with this material. You get kind
of tired of your jokes and you kind of want
to come up with some new stuff, and so I
was like, well, no one's put anything out either. Uh
so I was like maybe I'll stand you know, you
can stay in alone kind of because there's not really
much coming out. And so there we go. So it
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isn't there's so many interesting things to unpack there. So
how long to you is a period of time that
you're capable or want to do the same joke? Right? Like,
so this is all new material to you, what's the
lifespan of quote unquote new material? Like how long let's
pretend COVID didn't happen, and you were just touring as
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a comedian doing this this act, this one hour ish act.
How long would you tour with that act? Like what's
a normal range and how many acts have you gone through?
What you would say in your comedy career so far?
I mean hours? So I've had two hour specials. Half
hour on Netflix, that's a two and a half on Netflix,
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two and a half hours, an hour on Comment Central
three and half hours, which that one air the same
night of the Mayweather pack you alf fight. No one
thought a scheduling by did you even watch it? Or
you watching Mayweather past? Watch the fight? Want? I mean,
I told them and they were like, I think we're fine.
I think for years. This is like the biggest fine
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by the way, this is this is funny too because
you're a big sports fan and we're talking to da Bargassy.
I So I've had to deal with this when I
when I sell books, right like to to write about
sports or whatever else. So my first book was Dixie
Land to like going around to all twelve SEC football stadiums,
and the people who buy books, by and large know
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nothing about sports, right and so uh and so like that.
I was talking to all the publishers, most of them
in the agents, and they're like, so, tell me about
this SEC football. Is it a big thing? And I'm like, yeah,
you know, like there's a lot of people who are
college football fans. They're like, do you think there's a
market out there? I was like, yeah, yeah, I do.
You know, like, you know, there's hundreds of thousands of
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people every Saturday go to the stadiums to watch and
they're like, really, like you know, it's like it's like
I'm talking to It's like I'm in a zoo and
I'm talking about like it's just so insane, like the
people you're trying to sell to. And the other example
I'll give you is right after I wrote Dixie Land
to Light, I was like, Hey, I've got this great idea.
I want to do a book about the NFL Draft
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and about how much interest there is. I'm like, it's
the lent, you know, the link pin, the sort of
the connective tissue, the point between when guys go from
college to the NFL they train for the combine. I'm
gonna train for the combine alongside of these guys. I'm
gonna tell the story, and I went into all these
New York City publishers and they're like, yeah, we don't.
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We don't think there's enough interest in the NFL draft.
And I'm like, are you are you kidding me? Like,
like every day there's a new mock draft that comes out,
Like we can do NFL draft talk. I think I
got a text the other day and somebody was like, hey,
you know, Cowherd's done mock drafts for like sixty five
consecutive days on his radio show because there's so much
interest in it. But so I'm curious on that for
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the comedy world, uh, because you're a big sports fan.
But I can see you being like, hey, you know
it's head to head with Mayweather Pachie out like that's
really not a good overlap for me, and they're like,
oh no, no, that everybody's gonna still watch. I can
totally see the comedy world and the entertainment world being
a little bit insular like that too, where they don't
really know about like the overlap with sports. They and
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I started. So I did fallon to pool, like I
don't found much, but like that night when I was
on Foulon like to promote it, I had foulon. I
told him that, and I was like, hey, you should
say that, And I just started telling people that because
I was like, I have no hope of them watching this,
like at least tell them to dvrn't and be like
we're all watching the fight. Like this Netflix specially come
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out during the first Justice League got dropped in the
March madness. But it's on Netflix so people can know
that they can watch it whenever they want to go
watch it, right, doesn't the drop date doesn't really matter
as much, you know. I mean, most time Netflix to
to promote your specialist, you they don't want your promoting
until after it's already on, right, so you won't do
I mean, they have algorithms down to everything that you won't.
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Like you sit down with them and they tell you
like when we'll go through and stuff, and I mean
they got it. They're like, we think thirty days now.
I think they're doing thirty days before. Uh they do
thirty days before the special to lead up to it,
and then a bunch after the special because it's like
you want people to be like, hey go watch it now,
like you can see it right this, you know, because
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more people tend to do that stuff. You know. Another
random thing they might be finishing is a billboard in
Cool Springs. I got a billboard right, Uh. That billboard
is basically there, so I see it, like they there's
I mean they I've always heard that they do this.
I don't know how they have billboards in New York
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and l A uh in l A. I think it
is more you know, that's more of the for the
voting for Emmy's and Graham like that kind of stuff,
and like just to be in the Hollywood so those
people see it. So they do it. With Jet appt
out they did one of his shows, they put one
near his house like on the way to work, because
then he sees it and he's like, all right, look
at them. They're promoting Yeah, they're promoting it. It's like
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straight up and I swear this one's like straight up
from me to my two legends golf courts, like you
know that they know. I go to my sick golf
court and that is like every day and I'm like, yeah,
I look at this. They're giving it. You know. That's
that's the that's that's amazing. Also, that's the story like
on Hollywood boulevard or whatever, Like the most expensive billboards
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in the world are right there because they want the
industry to know like, hey, this event is going on,
and also the people who are affiliated with it right like,
uh to be haven't I haven't seen your billboard. I
mean I drive sixty five South in Nashville on a
regular basis. I think, oh, you see it coming north? Yeah,
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so that is, Yeah, that is It's great, awesome that
they do it like that. Yeah, I mean Netflix is amazing.
But yeah, you're right about them promoting stuff. I mean,
they don't know, they don't you man. We talked to
the don't know sports like when I had it when
I moved to New York and you would talk about
sports and they're like, I don't know, Like is Rutgers playing?
You're like Rutgers, Like are you crazy? Like you think
like vesting matters and you're you sit there and you
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could That's when I could always see the disconnect of
when I live in New York in l A. Because hey,
when you say you're from the South, they just are like,
what are y'all doing down there? You know, like they
do not think that anything exists out of there, like
blocks that they live on and they can't fathom that
there's human beings wandering around and whatever human means they
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think are one around. It's not the best. They think
the worst people alive and you they all you have
to you have to talk to them all the time,
Like it's a yeah, like football, You're like, what was
the big game tonight? Like who You're like Alabama LSU
and they're like, what is that. You're like, I don't know.
You would dream to have those ratings. I can tell
you that it would change your life. You're dumb. Spcom
even had a had a Vandy Kentucky Saturday noon ratings,
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you would still yourself for something like that. It is funny,
Like so obviously without kick, uh we serve by and
like we have a lot of listeners all over the country, right,
but our basis, you know, starting off was SEC football
and now we're up to whatever ten million people a
month or plus will come to out kick And sometimes
we talk to people on the East and West coast
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and they're like, well, that's a lot of people. It's like, yeah,
people care a lot, you know, like college football is
a big deal, you know, and I know big ten
fans and SEC fans they kind of get it. But
really for East Coast, like they don't have any I
mean your point on Rutgers, like Boston College whatever, Like
nobody really care Syracuse there's not a lot of teams there.
And then on the West Coast, Uh, you know U, S,
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C U, C l A. If they're good, people care,
but it's not the same level of like intensity, My
I'm gonna go shoot somebody if my team loses, which
happens pretty much every year, for instance in the Iron Bowl.
We're talking to ton April Gasy. So I'm curious. So
in your special, you've been doing stand up comedy for
a long time. You have been eight eighteen years. You
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have been a lot of times a guy who gets
up that nobody knows as a comedian. How does it
change when people know you and have an expectation for
you when you come on the stage beforehand. I'll give
you an example from from your act that I was watching.
You say at some point, like everybody you know, something
along the lines of like your dad was a magician
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for people who don't know, But people who have watched
your comedy now know that, and you don't have to
do the exposition of Hey, you know, my dad used
to do this, X, Y, and Z. You start to
assume that your audience has some knowledge about your life.
Is that better or worse from a comedian perspective to
know that the people who are watching you are in
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some way invested with the trajectory of your life such
that they come in with preconceived notions about you as
opposed to you just well, I'm sure I'm assuming it's
way easier, but you've had to battle to get there.
I'm wondering how different that feels. Yeah, something's it's definitely
a different thing, and you never you can get to
the point more. Uh, you know, it's like nice to
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be like I can say in the special, I can
say about that the magician is not about him being
I mean, it's a story with him being a magician,
but it's not like I'm telling you about it some
growing up like that or something. Uh. It definitely helps,
you know, I just talked to something about it, like
where it was. You know, when you start come, these
people are going to be steaters and like you're seeing
these there's a line and people are buying food and
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it's like a couple of thousand people and they're there
to see you. You do have a moment of uh,
like you feel like you like look around, You're like,
who are they? Who's here tonight? Just because you can't
imagine it's you and you're like what are these? And
people doing? You know, and that's but it's like that,
it's a weird thing to switch over. Steinfeld once said
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like if he could ever go back, the only thing
that he misses before he obviously loves, you've got a
lot of money, is life is great. But the one
thing he does miss is performing when the audience doesn't
know you. And you do miss that. I mean I
can still go up if I you know, pop up
at Zany's in Nashville and no one knows I'm coming. Uh,
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I'm not not every and they're not there for me.
They're just there for a regular show. I mean, people
do know who I am, but they you know, some
people might not and are if you do a corporate
show sometimes that you could be there and they don't
know you. And when you can get when you can
get those people that don't know you, uh, it's the
it's so fun because you they're they have no idea
what they're in for and you get it. Like if
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you get that's the excitement you have when people don't
know you're like, you get approved that you're funny to people.
The thing you got to switch to when people start
coming is you then got to hey, it does get
easier they uh. That's why I like that. I always
start with new jokes because the jokes that you know
they're they're going to give you more grace at the
beginning because they're like just excited that you're there and
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you know, and then you gotta get into some good stuff.
But you have to always remind yourself too, I mean,
as you know, to know that you're not getting these
laughs for no reason, like you're just sitting you know,
you're getting laughs just because we're like we love you,
like Colin Quinn said, and like there's a document comedians
like Jack Nicholson like he can get off stage and
they get on stage, they give them five minutes to
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grace and then they'd be like, all right, Jack, tellton
jokes you get out of here, like and that's how
an audience feels like there, you know, Yeah, I could
go back to the same cities and probably do this
thing I've got a new jokes now, But if I
had the same jokes, they would handle it maybe once,
maybe twice. And then if you come back a third
time and you got the same act, I mean it's over.
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Like it's you know, and they're not coming back like
they're gonna be like, oh I saw him, you know this.
After the second time, they'd be like, let's go. You
gotta that's why you and you gotta start, keep building
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to listen live. We're talking to Nate Bargatsky, great uh comic.
He's got a Netflix specially encourage you guys to check
it out. Went up a couple of weeks ago. How
much has your life been? Like everybody's life changed because
of COVID, right, Like everybody had something in their life
that was substantially different. But for a comedian who makes
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his living being out on the road and sort of
being able to test jokes in front of normal audiences
inside of comedy clubs, that had to be just a screeching,
halt suddenly and then your home all the time, and
like my wife is like, why don't you leave more often?
You know, Like I haven't been on the road very
much for the past year. I used to travel a
lot more. What was your life like as a comedian
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during COVID compared to what it was like February of
last year compared to like April of last year had
to be like two different worlds. Yeah, I was in Uh,
I was in New Jersey the day we canceled the show,
and uh we canceled like three hours before the show.
Everything was getting canceled. Uh the guy didn't want to cancel.
People are like already showing up a little bit and
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it was like but it was like this weird I
didn't know if people can get their money back, like
if I if I canceled or if I didn't cancel,
and say, some people are like I don't feel safe,
like they're not gonna get their money back because we
did the show and uh so it was like you
got kind of call and like in this kind of
weird thing. Was funny that they had a show the
night before Tony Bennett and the guys that we had
Tony been here us, I was like, yeah, you definitely
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shouldn't have had that show, Like he shouldn't have been
you know, it's like we knew very early that like
older people were ninety year old and nine year old
him should definitely not have been You should have canceled
that show. Like mine show might have been okay. I
probably would have been Okay, this show you definitely should
have had. Uh. But we basically drove the bus I
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was on. We have a bus, and so uh, we
just drove straight back to Nashville, and then it just
everything stopped and no one knew it. Everybody everything's getting pushed,
you know, the same stuff. We're like we think we're
gonna be open. We're very bottom at the bottom rung
of like things that they care about opening commedia, and
so you gotta kind of look at sports, and that
was how we're what we're all looking at to like
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see what sports are doing. If sports open back up,
then we would get to open back up. I had
to do a bunch of drive in shows, and that's
that was kind of a different thing, but that was
pretty cool, like to do those just to get a
you know, you can't hear the crowd and I'm not
showing the Chicago's five cars and they would try when
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you walk on stage five hunt cars flashing the lights
and hawking the horns at yet. I mean, it's it's
something that I remember for the rest of my life.
Like it was such a unique experience and you could
tell that these people were so it was this was
in the summer. They were just so happy to get out.
It's kind of fall and that game in Chicago was
like forty five degrees. It was raining, and like the
people were so happy to be out. They just they
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just loved it and it was like nice to get
to do that. We watched you know that one drive
in let us watch Halloween, uh by herself, like you
just played it. Yeah, yeah, so it's like you gotta
do it. Was like just trying to be like, all right,
we're gonna do some weird things that we never would
have got to do. Um. But I mean it was tough.
I golfed a lot and then you know, I mean
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just trying to give yourself somewhat busy, uh you know,
started a podcast. I mean, there's a lot of stuff.
I have a kid from another marriage, not but what
about you keep going like, yeah, it's pretty upset about that.
But I was like, covid anything. We're talking to Nate
bar Etsy. All right, So you are a big Vanderbilt
sports fan. Where would you be on the optimism scale
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New beat football coach Clarkelee, Uh, Jerry Stackhouse. Uh potentially,
I don't know. U. N c Roy Williams decided to
step down yesterday. Uh. Where are you on the optimism
scale for Vanderbilt athletics right now? Obviously the baseball team
is number one in the nation, and Tim's got golf,
it's following dominant dominant. Uh, we're a problem with wims bowling.
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You don't even want you don't you don't even come
to the come to the matches. I don't know what
they're called. Uh it's I I feel great, dude, Like
I am thrilled right now they're doing They just announced
that three million dollars. Uh, that's growing into the stadium.
That and you donated thirty million yourself, right, I mean
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I want to give you credit for everything I've ever made, dude,
everything ever made. We're broke now, but yeah, yeah, your
wife say, I just I was like, can we get
backs in the stadium. I'll give you thirty million dollars. Uh,
it's I love it, dude, I I it's the most
excited I've been as a Vandy fan. This happens to
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us a lot. But that new chancellor is uh chances
than Candice Lee. They just seem like they're doing stuff
like they they're actually like saying they're doing these things.
I love the Clark Lee higher I I love it
so much. I love I mean, I love a coaching search.
There's nothing, there's nothing. I think the NFL Draft is
super fun, and I think a coaching search is about
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as fun. But he was the one that you know
that we had some flashy ones, uh flashy you know,
names that you think you could get. But he played
there with the n b A. I just I'm way
on board with the hire of him and the fact
that they're doing all that stuff. I mean, I feel
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terrific about it. Basketball we've got to figure out, you know,
I don't know if that if Stuck got left for
North colin I wouldn't be upset. He's not been here long.
I wouldn't be upset about it. I would, you know,
I want to hopefully find someone else and we get
moving forward, even if each days you know it's it's
good too. I don't know recruiting and the Vanderable basketball
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how great that is. But as far as football and
everything else, I'm thrilled. I can't wait we get to
be hopefully beat Tennessee. I like the guy y'all's hired.
I think that's good. I'm not very optimistic about Tennessee athletics.
We're talking to to Nate Baratzky, uh, and I mean
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really was looking at the list. You know, everybody talks
about Minnesota as a state that has had a lot
of failure. No, we've never really won anything since in
the state of Tennessee. I mean, the Pared's got to
the Stanley Cup Finals. Titans have been, you know, a
couple of years ago in the a f C Championship game. Memphis.
The Grizzlies have been to Uh. I think they made
to the Western Conference Finals one year. Uh. Tennessee football
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has just fallen off the radar. I mean, I guess
you can say Vanderbilt baseball, but pro championships or major
college championships in basketball or or football just haven't happened.
So we got a lot of losing that's been going on,
and I'm just not optimistic it's gonna change. I feel
like this is my lot in life, and it's like,
really these teams that these two what's his face? What's
the guy in Miami sc N guy that was I
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think you had problems with Vatar decided well he when
he remember him talking about Miami, Like, who's crying? When
Jeter like went there? The Marlins and You're like, did
you have one? And that that stuff makes me furious
when you're like, I've won nothing, dude, Yes, it's like
Vanderbilt League for a year and they won a World Series.
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The Heat, when I mean the Hurricanes have been dominant.
I know they haven't won in a while. But you're like,
and he's like upset because they have a bad Marlin's year.
You're like, come on, dude, like we ares have won
two World Series? Uh, you know, like the the Heat
have won three championships. I think if I'm thinking of
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the one, the first one with Wade and then the
second one with Wade and Lebron their second and third,
and obviously the Hurricanes have been dominant for a long time.
You don't have to go that far up. You know
the Bucks have one too. I mean the state of Florida.
The University of Florida's won two in UH two in
UH in college football at least maybe it's three. I
can't even keep up, and they've won two in college basketball. Like, yeah,
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it's hard to feel that bad for those guys. By
the way, Um, you like to go to sporting events.
In fact, I think one of the last times I
saw you at a sporting event was maybe back in
two thousand nineteen, I think the start of the Vanderbilt
cy and if I remember correctly, I think Vanderbilt is
playing Georgia at that game. How is your life changed
as a guy who used to be able to go
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I would bet anonymously to sporting events because you're just
a fan of Vanderbilt Athletics or whatever sporting event you're
going to. And I know when we were at that tailgate,
there were a lot of people coming up like, Hey,
I love the special The power of Netflix is real,
and now that you've got multiple specials on there, like
you have to get approached all the time in a
way that never happened for the first I don't know
(26:29):
what twelve or thirteen years of your career. I would
bet yeah. I mean I was staying with you at
an NCC game. So there's there's a big reason every Uh.
But it's yeah, it does happen. It happens more. You know,
I get I get recognized here in Nashville. It's not
anything crazy. I got a joke. I have a joke
about it, Like it's not a problem at all. And
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like usually when I do get recognized that some of
takes pictures I once they leave, I didn't have to
explain who I am to like ten people. They're just
like who are you? Why did they do that? And
I have to go, I'm a comedian like that, and
they're like, I don't know who you are. Uh. Then
I had a guy into the Nashville Airport. He just
asked me, he goes there anybody in that like he
might do it? Like he was just like he like
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that's how literally thought of who I was. He's like,
you think I should try it? They're like, dude, I
mean get out there. Uh. So it does happen, and
it happens a lot more here. Uh. It's again, it's
not like it's some chaotic thing, but it's a weird
It's it's where you know, because you always get some
people don't say approach you, but then you get a
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message later like I saw you out tonight, and that
stuff kind of gets at you in your head. Not
in a bad way, but you start thinking, like, you know,
you don't want to back, like you're just like some
like your Brad Pitt walking in. Everybody notices you, but
you do think like someone couldn't be knowing me and
they're just being polite and not saying anything, and so
you know, you can't. There's a lot of stuff that
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goes where you're like, you can't just lose it on
a waiter or something like that, like gotta you gotta
just somewhat just kind of be under the radar tip
more than more. That's the first thing that I started
doing when like when I because my radio. When you
start doing radio, and you know this, like in the
Nashville area, a lot of people would know my radio
voice before I was doing television and everything else, and
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they would be like, oh, you know, they just kind
of perk up because they're like that's a you know,
you're standing in line at Wendy's or something in you
order a frosty and like the people are like, oh,
I I'm used to hearing that voice right, Like it's
on my radio all the time. And the thing I
noticed was like every waiter and and waitress was like
a sports talk radio listener in Nashville. And so I
was like, I'm never you gonn accuse me a lot
(28:34):
of things Nobody's ever gonna be like Clay Travis cut
me short on tipping, right, like so you know all
the time, like big tipping in that like that that
was sort of a crazy aspect. But I do think
that's that's a sort of a wild thing. And uh
and I would imagine it's it's a unique thing because
you can kind of track the trajectory of your career
(28:55):
over that in many ways. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's
a it's a you tell it is. The second Netflix
secial is a big deal. Like it's like a lot
of people can get one are you know a lot
of people in comedy, but then doing the second one
and you haven't know that that guy, that guy at
the airport, he might have three by now. If he
gotten into it, you can do what ever he wants
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to do do. I mean, that guy is crushing it. But
so that's that your first one killed it? Did you
get an opportunity to do a second? And Netflix has
all the data and the analytics and everything else. So
if they come back to you, they're like, hey, we
love what we saw from this last one. Yeah yeah,
I mean yeah, they don't really tell you, which does
the big thing? Like, so, like the big story with
it was with a stranger things they wanted to renegotiate,
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and the actors did and they were like, I don't
you know, it's it's doing good, but it's not great.
And then their agents are like, well, these kids can't
walk outside. Yeah, right, so we know something. And like
the Netflix kind of has that leverage like to be
like Netflix does when you switch from your iPad to
go to your TV if you watch it on your phone.
(30:00):
I mean, do they have everything they know negotiations? Yeah,
how did negotiations go with Netflix? Like I know how
negotiations go for radio or TV or whatever, like, and
we don't have anything in the Netflix world, but presumably
you have your agent. Does Netflix come in and they're like, hey,
we'll pay you x and uh? And then you're like, well,
(30:21):
we want why like or or is it just like
such a good thing for a comedian to be on
Netflix that you're like, well, I know, I'm gonna make
way more money because so many people are gonna see
it right that you're gonna immediately sell out everywhere else.
In other words, I'm not I'm not really aware. Like
if you release an album and you're an artist music album,
they don't make that much money. My understanding is off
(30:42):
the album itself. It's all the concerts and everything else.
And you know the radio airplay is basically an advertisement.
Is that similar in comedy? I mean I know, like
you know, Dave Chappelle is gonna get twenty million dollars
or whatever the heck Dave Chappelle gets and there's sixty
oh my god, three I think for three, So uh,
that's great. But he's bringing a lot to it. I
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mean that's what you're I mean, it's not too far
from what you do is like you you gotta get
yourself big enough, which has been through Netflix, but you
get yourself big that you're worth to them. It's like
you have an audience that you're bringing. So then the
negotiating is like way to go to HBO. I'll know
the wherever and like, so that's the leverage that you used.
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But they usually do a thing where they have like
a first look deal, so like you would sign you
do you they you do a thing. Sometimes they do
too special deals. Um, if you get if you get
up that Chappelle level and that kind of thing that
you know, you can get the multi special deal. But
they would give you and then they usually have a
first look or something for your next special. So like
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a lot of times it's something like that. So whatever
you do, like that first stand ups I ever did,
it was that was like basically like I was doing
a half hour that was like you know, I mean
they it paid great, but it was it was more
than I've made. But it was, um, it was like
I knew that I needed to be in the Netflix community.
It was like you were betting on yourself, Like this
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is going to help my career if if they're distributing
my content. Yeah no yeah, people that choose stuff for money,
you don't need to choose stuff for money until you know,
until it's time to choose stuff for money. Like but
it's it's like just get in that world. Because there
was people that wouldn't want to do that half hour
because it was like I don't want to have the
money wasn't good or something. You're like, it doesn't really matter,
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Like I need to get in front of those people,
Like that's the audience that they have is enormous, and
it's the fir stand up It's the number one place
that you can go to. Uh and so, and then
you did the next special and then this one, and
then they usually do a thing where like if so
when I do my next one, I think I have
to tell them first and give them the option to
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buy it or they got to say no to it,
and then if they say no to it, then I
can go somewhere else. Uh So you're kind of under contract.
I mean, I guess if you wanted to get at it,
I don't know why you would. Netflix is there's nothing.
No one's likes them as far as ever, it's almost
any their borderlines start taking over TV. Yeah, do you
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want to do something like so you've done the stand
up specials with Netflix and we're talking to Nate Bargatzy,
does any part of you want to do like I mean,
like I'll give you an example. I think it was
Netflix that has like w w E shows right, like Mike,
they I mean they do sitcoms and other words, my
kids love like all these little sitcoms that they do.
Do you think they'll start to do like more and
more of traditional old school sitcoms, Like would you have
(33:36):
any interest in a multi camera Like I know you've
done pilots before, like everybody who is in you know,
I think I'm on Like I've done like forty Fox
Sports pilots and they all get like shelled or whatever
over the year. But is that have some appeal to
you as well? Like obviously traditional stand up has worked well,
but like a multi camera sitcom style show, Yeah, yeah,
(33:59):
it does. I mean, and I always try to do it.
I mean I always look at it is like, I
got stand up is my what I want to do
for the rest of my life. I stand up is
you can you can kind of become big off stand
up now like you used to not be able to.
But now with Netflix and specials, I mean you can
you can kind of really build a pretty big audience
with that. I do want to do a show, and
(34:21):
I am I am trying right now. I'm trying again.
I've been told no a hundred times and so uh,
we're in a world of it's yeah, it's all knows.
That's the thing people get into any kind of like
entertainment or can like this. They're probably even regular life.
You're basically told no all the time and then there's
just some yeses and then but it's you've got to
(34:41):
get through all the nose and so it's, uh, I'll
hopefully get to do it, and I would like to
do it. But yeah, they started doing the Crew, which
is Kevin James show that's a multi cam on Netflix,
and I mean that feels like a King of Queen
show and so like once you usart of seeing that
and you're like, this is a show that me and
my wife can watch and with our daughter there, and
(35:01):
like you know, it's not like it's not this in
depth like you know, the first for a while, Netflix
is like all like it's like a murder documentary and
you're like, dude, I'm just trying to eat like spaghetti,
like I don't need to be like you know, like
just ingested in this case, and so that stuff that's
so like just overpowering. But now they're doing that like
(35:22):
the crew, some animated stuff and I mean obviously a
lot of that, and so I mean I think they're
gonna be I mean, that would just be where people go, like,
you know it already is, but you know where you're
not even you're just looking at Netflix. You're like, all right,
we can what do you want? We can want to
have everything. So, yeah, I do want to do it again.
Whether it's multi camera, single cam, I don't know. I'm
(35:42):
trying to figure that out now, but that route of
a TV show, I do. Yeah, I do want to
do that. I want to shoot, yeah, because I want
to do it in them and I want to shoot
in Naville. Yeah. And I've asked before, but I'll ask
you down on live radio. You'll let me like I
I played myself in Blue Mountain State. But you'll give
me a spoken line at some point in one of
the episodes, will you agree with Yeah? Yeah, if you
(36:05):
don't get canceled, dude, I'll give you whatever. You know.
I mean, it could happen to anymore, let's be honest.
I mean, it's going to be the last show that
I ever do in radio. I mean that has to
be a little bit scary, by the way, for comedians too,
because you guys used to be like you could say
anything in a comedy club back in the day before
people had their phones. And now like you've got to
be kind of cringing every now and then when you
(36:26):
because you know all these guys, right, and you know
and the girls that end up trending on Twitter for
some joke that they made, you know, five years ago
that's now circling back up or whatever else. I mean,
that's a brave new world, right Or guy gets I
can't even you get on SNL, which is what everybody
wanted to do forever, and then like everybody does a
deep dive into every joke that somebody's ever made in
the history of of their career, and yeah, it's just
(36:51):
would a lot of times. That's right. Yeah, that guy
is the real deal. Uh, he's an unbelievable comedian. Like
he to me would be like the next kind of
Louis k. Like when I he came to Nashville and uh,
and I know him and I went and watched him.
He was the one in that SNL thing that that
he got hired and then that someone went and found
(37:13):
like all these dumb old podcasts that he's done that
had no views, no one listened to him, it's just
a new comic saying trying to be You've gotta learn.
You've gotta learn your craft, right, like and everybody who
ends up successful in anything, Like I'm sure the first
time that you work on a car, if you're a mechanic,
if you went back and looked at it, like after
you've become the best mechanic in the city, you'd be like, man,
(37:33):
I really screwed up when I was trying to learn
how to fix that car the first time, right, and
you're doing other skill, you're doing something weird to twitched.
I mean, look, I'm a clean comedian, but I mean
I was I've cursed and jokes because I was doing
to show it two in the morning to drunks yelling
at me. So you just showed that one thing. I
was like, I was trying to survive, dude, Like I
(37:54):
was like, I'm up there, like what you I was like,
you know, I was like, you're just doing whatever you
have to do when your first starting out. Uh, yeah,
that that kid will be fine though, Like he's he
is the real deal as a comedian, and uh, and
I think I hope that it's it's people are gonna.
I mean, comics have just gotta, like you say, quid,
apologize and just do whatever your act is. I mean
(38:15):
I don't really do anything because I'm not like you
know you want to say, but you do get nervous,
you because you're like, I don't know what if someone
takes something the different way or take it wrong, or
you like, kid, if if they want to highlight you,
they can highlight you, um so and the people want
to do that. I you know, I don't necessarily do that.
It's not like my thing. I don't really care. Uh So,
(38:36):
it's like whatever, you know, but everybody should be able
to do whatever they want to do. Fox Sports Radio
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Last question for you, and by the way, this has
ended up being basically the entire second hour of the show,
(38:58):
So I appreciate you rolling through is but uh is
there somewhat in the world of sports that has senior
comedy special or senior act and you found out that
they are a fan and you've been like, I can't
believe that insert person here is aware that I exist
and or even more than that, enjoyed my show. Has
(39:19):
there has that moment happened for you? It could be
a coach, can be a player, can be somebody associated
with athletics. Uh, there's been I mean, you know the
one that was struck by a del Murphy. Oh, del Murphy.
Del Murphy was on my show. And so del Murphy was. Uh.
When I was a kid, you know, he would always
(39:40):
sweep three sweeps before he was bad. And so when
I played little league baseball, I always did that and
I always did it because of Del Murphy. And I
had no idea and he lives in Utah and I
was in Utah, and then he like tweeted something that
he was at the show, and I mean, he was
unbelievable just because he was my favorite baseball player, which
I'm like, you were the same age. I just tried
(40:02):
affected me with a baseball I don't watch it like
I did, because it was like I was at the
right age. When they stopped playing, you're a team, you're
and you start to find new things. Like That's what
happened to me too. But Dale Murphy is phenomenal. Dale Murphy,
Del Murphy, Bob Horner, Bob Horner. I don't know if
he remember Bob four home runs in a game back
(40:23):
in the day for the Braves. I remember, well, like
out of nowhere. It is like a blondhaired guy right
like uh, kind of kind of portly. Uh. My grandfather,
my granddad and chet Nooga, Tennessee, was a monster Atlanta
Braves fan. So he would watch every game on TBS.
And what's interesting is, I know, you've got a daughter.
My ten year old son has turned into a huge
(40:44):
Braves fan. So it's on every night in our house.
And so I've kind of circled back in through baseball
because of him. And I'm like, you know, this is
kind of fun. It takes you back to when you
were a kid and like you were ten or eleven
years old and you had that same affinity for the sport. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's it's it's it's great now. Like now, I've always
(41:04):
just saw a Vandy guys now, like I'd like, yeah,
Mike just chimsky and like Sonny Gray and God is
always in price like you just always Tony Camps in
Houston like I just did. It's actually pretty great. I've
learned to not have like a crazy loyalty. Like it's
just like you get to watch sports and be like,
I just wanted this to be a good game. I
(41:24):
want to root for these players that I like. It's
like your Jesney being friends with every SEC football coach
because they all like his music. And you're like, wait,
you grew up a Tennessee fan. He's like, yeah, but
I like Steve Spurrier two. He's an awesome dude. And
you know, like you see him pictured at like every stadium,
you know, hanging out in different gear, and initially you're
like that stupid, but then you're like, well, if you
actually meet some of these guys, they're actually pretty good dudes,
(41:46):
and you're like, you root for them maybe more than
you root for a team, if that makes sense. Yeah.
It makes it a lot easier. It makes your life
a lot easier. It makes it like you can sit
enjoy a game and I'm miserable. I mean, once you
get older to you just start realize that you're you
get busy, and then you're like, dude, I can't be
like crying over the Titans or something. Like you're like,
I gotta get it. I gotta get it together. You know. Well,
(42:08):
I'll tell you what I think about now. Sometimes, like
I will sit and watch a game and I'll be like,
like Tennessee, for instance, in basketball, this kid gains is,
his name is, nine years old whatever he is, missed
two free throws in the SEC Basketball Tournament against against Alabama,
and I felt awful for him because potentially Tennessee would
have pulled off the upset been in the SEC championship game.
(42:29):
They haven't won the SEC basketball Tournament in my entire
life as a fan, so I'm forty one, Like that's
a long time to just have a lot of losses.
Every year. I'm like, this is the year and they
lose or whatever. But now I sit around, I'm like,
I would be such a jerk move for me to
tweet something bad about these kids because I have a
way bigger audience often times than they do. It's like,
(42:51):
you know, it's it's interesting the transition from somebody who
just roots for a team to like, man if I
said something like I can't believe you missed that? How
did he choke like that miss those free throws or whatever?
On Twitter, it will be like I would feel bad
because it's like I'm picking on him right because I've
got a big arm. And it's it's crazy transition in
your mind to go from like a casual fan to
(43:13):
are a big fan. But now you've got a bigger audience.
It's like more people are going to see your criticism
of that play that might have been watching that play
almost right, Like it's it's a weird kind of and
you're old enough to be there dead. That's also true
once you get once you get to our age, you
realize how young is oh yeah, and how young and
(43:37):
you're like, dude, that these are kids. That's like my
argument has been uh and this is you could probably
build an entire uh segment about this, but you can't
wear a jersey of someone that is younger than you,
right Like that you like what you're like if I
see guys walking around and you're like, you're forty five
year old and you're wearing like a nineteen year old jersey,
(43:58):
it's like that's kind of you biliating right now for
people like us, Like I could wear a throwback Bo
Jackson jersey, right, Like, my argument is that they have
to be older than me, unless it's your own kid
or you know, some sort of scenario like that. Right,
if one of my kids ever was good enough to
play it, you know, i'd wear his jersey or whatever
to go sit in the crowd. Maybe maybe I would,
Like if you did it, you go, I'm not, I can't.
(44:20):
I've had this. You stick this hard fast, really have
it's like dead, but just swear my jersey and you're like,
the people will call me out for being a hypocrite
and and so, but I've It's funny like as you age,
you start to dress more like the coach um and
so like I wear like when I go to an
SEC football game now, coaches polo right, Like, you're not
(44:44):
you're not trying too hard, but you're not doing too
much like the coaches you know in a college football
game stand on the sideline and the coaches polo and
that's like your look right like, I'm I'm pretty much
gonna be coaches polo for the next twenty years or
so because I'm roughly the age of the coaches now.
And uh, and I think that's the way you have
to to dress for an SEC football game. And I
(45:06):
can't believe earl. Yeah, like it's something like, I mean,
not necessarily I want to like, but it's like you
still understanding some the beaten traffic thing. You're like, oh, yeah,
you know, I like that. I went to one football
game this year. It was Alabama against Tennessee, and I
was like, I just I can't. I don't think I
can sit through this entire game. Like it's just an
(45:26):
absolute drubbing, you know. And I used to be like that,
never leave early, but but yeah, I if you get
stuck in that. That was one of the good things
about that, Probably the only good thing about COVID was,
you know, I've got season tickets to the Titans. Man,
I could pull up park right by the stadium, you know,
I get my kids, I could walk in, nobody was
sitting in front of them blocking their view. We could
go get uh, you know, easy concessions, and then as
(45:48):
soon as the game's over, it takes five minutes to
get to your car, drive right onto the interstate. Like
I was like, man, you know this one third stadium
capacity thing is is not necessarily awful from a fan perspective, Yeah,
oh not at all. Yeah, that's what that's what they
think that's almost what they should do, is like they
could ever do it. It's like just make make that experience,
like focus on that leaving, you know, not being like
(46:11):
I mean you think about airlines, like if they just
spread the sea, you're like, you talk about better everybody's
life would be just I don't understand why at the
airlines they don't have double exits, right, they have the
extra exit thing that they can open in the back.
I've always wondered, why don't they have two different like
little whatever those things are called, like the conveyor belt
(46:31):
thing that they pull up so you can walk off.
It seems like it would be wildly more efficient to
have to than one. It's because they're all against this
man and there they don't want to still have a
good time. I don't understand it. Like every time I'm
standing there like sweating because they turn they turn off
the air and you're like in the back of the plane,
which I've been a lot, and I'm just like this
(46:52):
is just awful, and your kids are throwing a fit
and you're like there's no way for me to get off,
and like why wouldn't they just open the back and
have a double exit. Strategy. You should just yell that
next time and go, hey, this a doorback here. Do
you remember when that guy like opened it and just
got a beer and slid off. Do you remember that,
Like flight attendant was just like I'm and and like
deployed the emergency exit and just slid off the back
(47:15):
with a blue moon. It was like drinking a beer.
It was like, that's the nightmare you set off too.
Is so funny to the net, Like for something like
that to happen, it's like two seconds for that slid
to pop out, and then you're like, I mean it's
like ten hours to get it back and like it's
just a night there like they have down there. Yeah, yeah,
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that is phenomenal. Uh Nate. When's your next by the way,
when your next comedy like event? Where are you gonna
be performing next? Do you have one schedule? You know what?
My Miami improv the end of May, that's the I've
got a bunch of club dates of them were sold
out in Miami, not so much. Miami is a tough market.
So not a piller for you, not not the I'm
(47:59):
not I'll definitely get informed there in part of people
that don't know me. Uh, that's that but it that's
a end of May and in the theater tour starting
hopefully starting back up and all that's awesome. Well, we
appreciate all the time. I know how busy you are.
Congrats on the special, encourage everybody to to check it out,
and we'll hopefully talk to you again soon. Yeah man, anytime,
This is Wins and Losses with Clay Trevis. Clay talks
with the most entertaining people in sports, entertainment and business.
Now here's Clay Trevis. Welcome in Wins and Losses. It's
been a little while, been crazy busy with everything in
(00:24):
the out Kick universe. But there's a brand new Netflix
comedy special up from Nate Bargatsky. I watched it last
week with my wife. We loved it. We were laughing
a lot, and I thought, I need to get Nate
back on the Wins and Losses programs. Have actually fascinated
how you film a comedy special in the middle of COVID,
And so we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna talk
(00:45):
about his sports fandom and this conversation in general. I
think you will love it's Wins and Losses. If you
like this when, you'll like a lot more of them
as well. So dive in. Here's comedian Nate Bargatsky with
me on Wins and Losses. Joined now by Nate Bargatsky.
He's got a great Netflix comedy special that is up,
just debuted a couple of weeks ago. I watched it
(01:06):
this time last week. I think and uh immediately texted you, Nate,
and I said, man, that was really really good. I
needed I think there's a lot of people out there
who need laughter right now, certainly more than ever. Uh So,
first of all, thanks are getting up early and uh
and hanging out with us. But I was so fascinated
by the way that this was filmed outdoors in l A.
(01:28):
There's helicopters flying over the top of it. What was
the process like, so before you're telling any jokes and
anything else, Like, how was this set up? How long
did it take to tape? Tell me how you go
about filming a Netflix special like this? Uh? Yeah, well
appreciate it, buddy. I got your text and uh it
was This one was like much different because obviously was
(01:51):
outside and with an audience hunter people audience had to
get COVID tested, they ought to wear masks, so it
was very difficult to dude that got the tickets that
very of funny. Had a guy email me and he
was like, Yo, what's with all the hoops to get
these tickets? As a kid, there's uh pandemnic like to
the point to show him like, well, there's a big
global pandemic that the earth is going with uh, So,
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I mean, you know, that's part of it, but it
was tough, Like the timing, Like the timing of it
is what's the hardest part, because you can't I can't
hear them laugh because we're outside. They got mask on,
and it's just laughter kind of just goes in the air.
And then also you can't see their faces, so you
can't see them smiling. So you're like up there like, dude,
(02:34):
this might be they might hate this, and you're just
kind of going off like I know these jokes, I've
done them before, they've worked, and so you're just hoping
they're working. But so we time like you know, my
sets like timed out. So I timed it out. It
was like sixty four minutes. I was doing these drive
in movie theater days, and uh, I had it timed
out in the first show. We take two shows for
a special, and then the first show I did forty
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three minutes. It was that and that much was entered.
You was like gone with just the outside in the
mask and like we had helicopters fine over and like
all that kind of chaos. Like so it's like crazy
to see. I mean, I've had it happened. But you know,
you can fluctuate ten tif teen minutes, ten minutes maybe
(03:16):
with no like if the crowds like crowds can be
fast laugher like they laugh quick and stop or whatever.
But it was pretty wild to go that. So then
usually when you take two shows, they tell you, I
mean every special I've done, they always go, we got it.
The first show, We're good, don't worry about it, have
fun on the second show, and then this show they
(03:37):
were like, yeah, we do not have it. So the
second show is very important because you don't have to
do an hour. So that's actually really so were they
back to back? Like how much time is between the two?
Is it the same day? Are you performing the same hour,
different different crowding? Yeah, you just you you usually get
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everything from one show, so when you see a special,
it is most likely from one show, and you just
takee two just to be sure, uh you know, something
like this happens or who knows, And then they, you know,
maybe occasionally be like, I like the joke on the
first show better, the reaction was better, I said it better.
You know. Uh so usually but you have like an
(04:21):
hour after, but I mean, right when I got off.
You know you nailed this out. I mean the second one,
I think, I yeah, you could tell. I mean it
was you know, you never feel I don't know when
you take them, you never feel specials are not it's
not the same as uh, regular show. Like it's it's
I don't know, there's just the pressure of like you
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gotta get it. Uh. And this was such a weird
kind of thing. Uh. And so you you don't like
when you when you get done, you're like, all right,
I think that was good, Like you just you're like,
I don't know. The last one. I felt really good
about the Tennessee Kid. That one I did, like I was,
I was running that material. That's the thing too, is
I mean I was. I had probably fifty more theater dates.
(05:01):
I would have ran this hour in before the special,
and I mean lucky I got to do those drive
in and do it. And I had an hour built
before the special, I mean before COVID happened. I was
kind of already like I had an hour already. But
I mean normally you would have. And those reps are
super important because you just you you you tighten jokes up.
You find little things here and there. You maybe add
(05:23):
a little bit, and and then you're doing these theater
shows and so normally you just kind of pick we're
a stop on your theater tour and you're like, we're filming,
Like we were going to film in Minneapolis, was the plan.
And then uh everything happened COVID and then all that stuff,
and so that that was like gone, and then I
didn't think I was gonna get its special, but then
(05:43):
they said they could do it at Universal Studios, and
so I was like, you know what, I'll just I
wanted to be done with this material. You get kind
of tired of your jokes and you kind of want
to come up with some new stuff, and so I
was like, well, no one's put anything out either. Uh
so I was like maybe I'll stand you know, you
can stay in alone kind of because there's not really
much coming out. And so there we go. So it
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isn't there's so many interesting things to unpack there. So
how long to you is a period of time that
you're capable or want to do the same joke? Right? Like,
so this is all new material to you, what's the
lifespan of quote unquote new material? Like how long let's
pretend COVID didn't happen, and you were just touring as
(06:27):
a comedian doing this this act, this one hour ish act.
How long would you tour with that act? Like what's
a normal range and how many acts have you gone through?
What you would say in your comedy career so far?
I mean hours? So I've had two hour specials. Half
hour on Netflix, that's a two and a half on Netflix,
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two and a half hours, an hour on Comment Central
three and half hours, which that one air the same
night of the Mayweather pack you alf fight. No one
thought a scheduling by did you even watch it? Or
you watching Mayweather past? Watch the fight? Want? I mean,
I told them and they were like, I think we're fine.
I think for years. This is like the biggest fine
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by the way, this is this is funny too because
you're a big sports fan and we're talking to da Bargassy.
I So I've had to deal with this when I
when I sell books, right like to to write about
sports or whatever else. So my first book was Dixie
Land to like going around to all twelve SEC football stadiums,
and the people who buy books, by and large know
(07:32):
nothing about sports, right and so uh and so like that.
I was talking to all the publishers, most of them
in the agents, and they're like, so, tell me about
this SEC football. Is it a big thing? And I'm like, yeah,
you know, like there's a lot of people who are
college football fans. They're like, do you think there's a
market out there? I was like, yeah, yeah, I do.
You know, like, you know, there's hundreds of thousands of
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people every Saturday go to the stadiums to watch and
they're like, really, like you know, it's like it's like
I'm talking to It's like I'm in a zoo and
I'm talking about like it's just so insane, like the
people you're trying to sell to. And the other example
I'll give you is right after I wrote Dixie Land
to Light, I was like, Hey, I've got this great idea.
I want to do a book about the NFL Draft
(08:15):
and about how much interest there is. I'm like, it's
the lent, you know, the link pin, the sort of
the connective tissue, the point between when guys go from
college to the NFL they train for the combine. I'm
gonna train for the combine alongside of these guys. I'm
gonna tell the story, and I went into all these
New York City publishers and they're like, yeah, we don't.
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We don't think there's enough interest in the NFL draft.
And I'm like, are you are you kidding me? Like,
like every day there's a new mock draft that comes out,
Like we can do NFL draft talk. I think I
got a text the other day and somebody was like, hey,
you know, Cowherd's done mock drafts for like sixty five
consecutive days on his radio show because there's so much
interest in it. But so I'm curious on that for
(08:58):
the comedy world, uh, because you're a big sports fan.
But I can see you being like, hey, you know
it's head to head with Mayweather Pachie out like that's
really not a good overlap for me, and they're like,
oh no, no, that everybody's gonna still watch. I can
totally see the comedy world and the entertainment world being
a little bit insular like that too, where they don't
really know about like the overlap with sports. They and
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I started. So I did fallon to pool, like I
don't found much, but like that night when I was
on Foulon like to promote it, I had foulon. I
told him that, and I was like, hey, you should
say that, And I just started telling people that because
I was like, I have no hope of them watching this,
like at least tell them to dvrn't and be like
we're all watching the fight. Like this Netflix specially come
(09:41):
out during the first Justice League got dropped in the
March madness. But it's on Netflix so people can know
that they can watch it whenever they want to go
watch it, right, doesn't the drop date doesn't really matter
as much, you know. I mean, most time Netflix to
to promote your specialist, you they don't want your promoting
until after it's already on, right, so you won't do
I mean, they have algorithms down to everything that you won't.
(10:03):
Like you sit down with them and they tell you
like when we'll go through and stuff, and I mean
they got it. They're like, we think thirty days now.
I think they're doing thirty days before. Uh they do
thirty days before the special to lead up to it,
and then a bunch after the special because it's like
you want people to be like, hey go watch it now,
like you can see it right this, you know, because
(10:24):
more people tend to do that stuff. You know. Another
random thing they might be finishing is a billboard in
Cool Springs. I got a billboard right, Uh. That billboard
is basically there, so I see it, like they there's
I mean they I've always heard that they do this.
I don't know how they have billboards in New York
(10:46):
and l A uh in l A. I think it
is more you know, that's more of the for the
voting for Emmy's and Graham like that kind of stuff,
and like just to be in the Hollywood so those
people see it. So they do it. With Jet appt
out they did one of his shows, they put one
near his house like on the way to work, because
then he sees it and he's like, all right, look
at them. They're promoting Yeah, they're promoting it. It's like
(11:06):
straight up and I swear this one's like straight up
from me to my two legends golf courts, like you
know that they know. I go to my sick golf
court and that is like every day and I'm like, yeah,
I look at this. They're giving it. You know. That's
that's the that's that's amazing. Also, that's the story like
on Hollywood boulevard or whatever, Like the most expensive billboards
(11:28):
in the world are right there because they want the
industry to know like, hey, this event is going on,
and also the people who are affiliated with it right like,
uh to be haven't I haven't seen your billboard. I
mean I drive sixty five South in Nashville on a
regular basis. I think, oh, you see it coming north? Yeah,
(11:49):
so that is, Yeah, that is It's great, awesome that
they do it like that. Yeah, I mean Netflix is amazing.
But yeah, you're right about them promoting stuff. I mean,
they don't know, they don't you man. We talked to
the don't know sports like when I had it when
I moved to New York and you would talk about
sports and they're like, I don't know, Like is Rutgers playing?
You're like Rutgers, Like are you crazy? Like you think
like vesting matters and you're you sit there and you
(12:11):
could That's when I could always see the disconnect of
when I live in New York in l A. Because hey,
when you say you're from the South, they just are like,
what are y'all doing down there? You know, like they
do not think that anything exists out of there, like
blocks that they live on and they can't fathom that
there's human beings wandering around and whatever human means they
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think are one around. It's not the best. They think
the worst people alive and you they all you have
to you have to talk to them all the time,
Like it's a yeah, like football, You're like, what was
the big game tonight? Like who You're like Alabama LSU
and they're like, what is that. You're like, I don't know.
You would dream to have those ratings. I can tell
you that it would change your life. You're dumb. Spcom
even had a had a Vandy Kentucky Saturday noon ratings,
(12:55):
you would still yourself for something like that. It is funny,
Like so obviously without kick, uh we serve by and
like we have a lot of listeners all over the country, right,
but our basis, you know, starting off was SEC football
and now we're up to whatever ten million people a
month or plus will come to out kick And sometimes
we talk to people on the East and West coast
(13:16):
and they're like, well, that's a lot of people. It's like, yeah,
people care a lot, you know, like college football is
a big deal, you know, and I know big ten
fans and SEC fans they kind of get it. But
really for East Coast, like they don't have any I
mean your point on Rutgers, like Boston College whatever, Like
nobody really care Syracuse there's not a lot of teams there.
And then on the West Coast, Uh, you know U, S,
(13:38):
C U, C l A. If they're good, people care,
but it's not the same level of like intensity, My
I'm gonna go shoot somebody if my team loses, which
happens pretty much every year, for instance in the Iron Bowl.
We're talking to ton April Gasy. So I'm curious. So
in your special, you've been doing stand up comedy for
a long time. You have been eight eighteen years. You
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have been a lot of times a guy who gets
up that nobody knows as a comedian. How does it
change when people know you and have an expectation for
you when you come on the stage beforehand. I'll give
you an example from from your act that I was watching.
You say at some point, like everybody you know, something
along the lines of like your dad was a magician
(14:23):
for people who don't know, But people who have watched
your comedy now know that, and you don't have to
do the exposition of Hey, you know, my dad used
to do this, X, Y, and Z. You start to
assume that your audience has some knowledge about your life.
Is that better or worse from a comedian perspective to
know that the people who are watching you are in
(14:45):
some way invested with the trajectory of your life such
that they come in with preconceived notions about you as
opposed to you just well, I'm sure I'm assuming it's
way easier, but you've had to battle to get there.
I'm wondering how different that feels. Yeah, something's it's definitely
a different thing, and you never you can get to
the point more. Uh, you know, it's like nice to
(15:06):
be like I can say in the special, I can
say about that the magician is not about him being
I mean, it's a story with him being a magician,
but it's not like I'm telling you about it some
growing up like that or something. Uh. It definitely helps,
you know, I just talked to something about it, like
where it was. You know, when you start come, these
people are going to be steaters and like you're seeing
these there's a line and people are buying food and
(15:28):
it's like a couple of thousand people and they're there
to see you. You do have a moment of uh,
like you feel like you like look around, You're like,
who are they? Who's here tonight? Just because you can't
imagine it's you and you're like what are these? And
people doing? You know, and that's but it's like that,
it's a weird thing to switch over. Steinfeld once said
(15:49):
like if he could ever go back, the only thing
that he misses before he obviously loves, you've got a
lot of money, is life is great. But the one
thing he does miss is performing when the audience doesn't
know you. And you do miss that. I mean I
can still go up if I you know, pop up
at Zany's in Nashville and no one knows I'm coming. Uh,
(16:09):
I'm not not every and they're not there for me.
They're just there for a regular show. I mean, people
do know who I am, but they you know, some
people might not and are if you do a corporate
show sometimes that you could be there and they don't
know you. And when you can get when you can
get those people that don't know you, uh, it's the
it's so fun because you they're they have no idea
what they're in for and you get it. Like if
(16:31):
you get that's the excitement you have when people don't
know you're like, you get approved that you're funny to people.
The thing you got to switch to when people start
coming is you then got to hey, it does get
easier they uh. That's why I like that. I always
start with new jokes because the jokes that you know
they're they're going to give you more grace at the
beginning because they're like just excited that you're there and
(16:54):
you know, and then you gotta get into some good stuff.
But you have to always remind yourself too, I mean,
as you know, to know that you're not getting these
laughs for no reason, like you're just sitting you know,
you're getting laughs just because we're like we love you,
like Colin Quinn said, and like there's a document comedians
like Jack Nicholson like he can get off stage and
they get on stage, they give them five minutes to
(17:15):
grace and then they'd be like, all right, Jack, tellton
jokes you get out of here, like and that's how
an audience feels like there, you know, Yeah, I could
go back to the same cities and probably do this
thing I've got a new jokes now, But if I
had the same jokes, they would handle it maybe once,
maybe twice. And then if you come back a third
time and you got the same act, I mean it's over.
(17:36):
Like it's you know, and they're not coming back like
they're gonna be like, oh I saw him, you know this.
After the second time, they'd be like, let's go. You
gotta that's why you and you gotta start, keep building
a new act and keep growing. Fox Sports Radio has
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to listen live. We're talking to Nate Bargatsky, great uh comic.
He's got a Netflix specially encourage you guys to check
it out. Went up a couple of weeks ago. How
much has your life been? Like everybody's life changed because
of COVID, right, Like everybody had something in their life
that was substantially different. But for a comedian who makes
(18:17):
his living being out on the road and sort of
being able to test jokes in front of normal audiences
inside of comedy clubs, that had to be just a screeching,
halt suddenly and then your home all the time, and
like my wife is like, why don't you leave more often?
You know, Like I haven't been on the road very
much for the past year. I used to travel a
lot more. What was your life like as a comedian
(18:38):
during COVID compared to what it was like February of
last year compared to like April of last year had
to be like two different worlds. Yeah, I was in Uh,
I was in New Jersey the day we canceled the show,
and uh we canceled like three hours before the show.
Everything was getting canceled. Uh the guy didn't want to cancel.
People are like already showing up a little bit and
(18:59):
it was like but it was like this weird I
didn't know if people can get their money back, like
if I if I canceled or if I didn't cancel,
and say, some people are like I don't feel safe,
like they're not gonna get their money back because we
did the show and uh so it was like you
got kind of call and like in this kind of
weird thing. Was funny that they had a show the
night before Tony Bennett and the guys that we had
Tony been here us, I was like, yeah, you definitely
(19:20):
shouldn't have had that show, Like he shouldn't have been
you know, it's like we knew very early that like
older people were ninety year old and nine year old
him should definitely not have been You should have canceled
that show. Like mine show might have been okay. I
probably would have been Okay, this show you definitely should
have had. Uh. But we basically drove the bus I
(19:40):
was on. We have a bus, and so uh, we
just drove straight back to Nashville, and then it just
everything stopped and no one knew it. Everybody everything's getting pushed,
you know, the same stuff. We're like we think we're
gonna be open. We're very bottom at the bottom rung
of like things that they care about opening commedia, and
so you gotta kind of look at sports, and that
was how we're what we're all looking at to like
(20:02):
see what sports are doing. If sports open back up,
then we would get to open back up. I had
to do a bunch of drive in shows, and that's
that was kind of a different thing, but that was
pretty cool, like to do those just to get a
you know, you can't hear the crowd and I'm not
showing the Chicago's five cars and they would try when
(20:23):
you walk on stage five hunt cars flashing the lights
and hawking the horns at yet. I mean, it's it's
something that I remember for the rest of my life.
Like it was such a unique experience and you could
tell that these people were so it was this was
in the summer. They were just so happy to get out.
It's kind of fall and that game in Chicago was
like forty five degrees. It was raining, and like the
people were so happy to be out. They just they
(20:46):
just loved it and it was like nice to get
to do that. We watched you know that one drive
in let us watch Halloween, uh by herself, like you
just played it. Yeah, yeah, so it's like you gotta
do it. Was like just trying to be like, all right,
we're gonna do some weird things that we never would
have got to do. Um. But I mean it was tough.
I golfed a lot and then you know, I mean
(21:07):
just trying to give yourself somewhat busy, uh you know,
started a podcast. I mean, there's a lot of stuff.
I have a kid from another marriage, not but what
about you keep going like, yeah, it's pretty upset about that.
But I was like, covid anything. We're talking to Nate
bar Etsy. All right, So you are a big Vanderbilt
sports fan. Where would you be on the optimism scale
(21:29):
New beat football coach Clarkelee, Uh, Jerry Stackhouse. Uh potentially,
I don't know. U. N c Roy Williams decided to
step down yesterday. Uh. Where are you on the optimism
scale for Vanderbilt athletics right now? Obviously the baseball team
is number one in the nation, and Tim's got golf,
it's following dominant dominant. Uh, we're a problem with wims bowling.
(21:54):
You don't even want you don't you don't even come
to the come to the matches. I don't know what
they're called. Uh it's I I feel great, dude, Like
I am thrilled right now they're doing They just announced
that three million dollars. Uh, that's growing into the stadium.
That and you donated thirty million yourself, right, I mean
(22:14):
I want to give you credit for everything I've ever made, dude,
everything ever made. We're broke now, but yeah, yeah, your
wife say, I just I was like, can we get
backs in the stadium. I'll give you thirty million dollars. Uh,
it's I love it, dude, I I it's the most
excited I've been as a Vandy fan. This happens to
(22:35):
us a lot. But that new chancellor is uh chances
than Candice Lee. They just seem like they're doing stuff
like they they're actually like saying they're doing these things.
I love the Clark Lee higher I I love it
so much. I love I mean, I love a coaching search.
There's nothing, there's nothing. I think the NFL Draft is
super fun, and I think a coaching search is about
(22:57):
as fun. But he was the one that you know
that we had some flashy ones, uh flashy you know,
names that you think you could get. But he played
there with the n b A. I just I'm way
on board with the hire of him and the fact
that they're doing all that stuff. I mean, I feel
(23:18):
terrific about it. Basketball we've got to figure out, you know,
I don't know if that if Stuck got left for
North colin I wouldn't be upset. He's not been here long.
I wouldn't be upset about it. I would, you know,
I want to hopefully find someone else and we get
moving forward, even if each days you know it's it's
good too. I don't know recruiting and the Vanderable basketball
(23:38):
how great that is. But as far as football and
everything else, I'm thrilled. I can't wait we get to
be hopefully beat Tennessee. I like the guy y'all's hired.
I think that's good. I'm not very optimistic about Tennessee athletics.
We're talking to to Nate Baratzky, uh, and I mean
(23:59):
really was looking at the list. You know, everybody talks
about Minnesota as a state that has had a lot
of failure. No, we've never really won anything since in
the state of Tennessee. I mean, the Pared's got to
the Stanley Cup Finals. Titans have been, you know, a
couple of years ago in the a f C Championship game. Memphis.
The Grizzlies have been to Uh. I think they made
to the Western Conference Finals one year. Uh. Tennessee football
(24:21):
has just fallen off the radar. I mean, I guess
you can say Vanderbilt baseball, but pro championships or major
college championships in basketball or or football just haven't happened.
So we got a lot of losing that's been going on,
and I'm just not optimistic it's gonna change. I feel
like this is my lot in life, and it's like,
really these teams that these two what's his face? What's
the guy in Miami sc N guy that was I
(24:43):
think you had problems with Vatar decided well he when
he remember him talking about Miami, Like, who's crying? When
Jeter like went there? The Marlins and You're like, did
you have one? And that that stuff makes me furious
when you're like, I've won nothing, dude, Yes, it's like
Vanderbilt League for a year and they won a World Series.
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The Heat, when I mean the Hurricanes have been dominant.
I know they haven't won in a while. But you're like,
and he's like upset because they have a bad Marlin's year.
You're like, come on, dude, like we ares have won
two World Series? Uh, you know, like the the Heat
have won three championships. I think if I'm thinking of
(25:25):
the one, the first one with Wade and then the
second one with Wade and Lebron their second and third,
and obviously the Hurricanes have been dominant for a long time.
You don't have to go that far up. You know
the Bucks have one too. I mean the state of Florida.
The University of Florida's won two in UH two in
UH in college football at least maybe it's three. I
can't even keep up, and they've won two in college basketball. Like, yeah,
(25:47):
it's hard to feel that bad for those guys. By
the way, Um, you like to go to sporting events.
In fact, I think one of the last times I
saw you at a sporting event was maybe back in
two thousand nineteen, I think the start of the Vanderbilt
cy and if I remember correctly, I think Vanderbilt is
playing Georgia at that game. How is your life changed
as a guy who used to be able to go
(26:07):
I would bet anonymously to sporting events because you're just
a fan of Vanderbilt Athletics or whatever sporting event you're
going to. And I know when we were at that tailgate,
there were a lot of people coming up like, Hey,
I love the special The power of Netflix is real,
and now that you've got multiple specials on there, like
you have to get approached all the time in a
way that never happened for the first I don't know
(26:29):
what twelve or thirteen years of your career. I would
bet yeah. I mean I was staying with you at
an NCC game. So there's there's a big reason every Uh.
But it's yeah, it does happen. It happens more. You know,
I get I get recognized here in Nashville. It's not
anything crazy. I got a joke. I have a joke
about it, Like it's not a problem at all. And
(26:51):
like usually when I do get recognized that some of
takes pictures I once they leave, I didn't have to
explain who I am to like ten people. They're just
like who are you? Why did they do that? And
I have to go, I'm a comedian like that, and
they're like, I don't know who you are. Uh. Then
I had a guy into the Nashville Airport. He just
asked me, he goes there anybody in that like he
might do it? Like he was just like he like
(27:12):
that's how literally thought of who I was. He's like,
you think I should try it? They're like, dude, I
mean get out there. Uh. So it does happen, and
it happens a lot more here. Uh. It's again, it's
not like it's some chaotic thing, but it's a weird
It's it's where you know, because you always get some
people don't say approach you, but then you get a
(27:32):
message later like I saw you out tonight, and that
stuff kind of gets at you in your head. Not
in a bad way, but you start thinking, like, you know,
you don't want to back, like you're just like some
like your Brad Pitt walking in. Everybody notices you, but
you do think like someone couldn't be knowing me and
they're just being polite and not saying anything, and so
you know, you can't. There's a lot of stuff that
(27:52):
goes where you're like, you can't just lose it on
a waiter or something like that, like gotta you gotta
just somewhat just kind of be under the radar tip
more than more. That's the first thing that I started
doing when like when I because my radio. When you
start doing radio, and you know this, like in the
Nashville area, a lot of people would know my radio
voice before I was doing television and everything else, and
(28:14):
they would be like, oh, you know, they just kind
of perk up because they're like that's a you know,
you're standing in line at Wendy's or something in you
order a frosty and like the people are like, oh,
I I'm used to hearing that voice right, Like it's
on my radio all the time. And the thing I
noticed was like every waiter and and waitress was like
a sports talk radio listener in Nashville. And so I
was like, I'm never you gonn accuse me a lot
(28:34):
of things Nobody's ever gonna be like Clay Travis cut
me short on tipping, right, like so you know all
the time, like big tipping in that like that that
was sort of a crazy aspect. But I do think
that's that's a sort of a wild thing. And uh
and I would imagine it's it's a unique thing because
you can kind of track the trajectory of your career
(28:55):
over that in many ways. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's
a it's a you tell it is. The second Netflix
secial is a big deal. Like it's like a lot
of people can get one are you know a lot
of people in comedy, but then doing the second one
and you haven't know that that guy, that guy at
the airport, he might have three by now. If he
gotten into it, you can do what ever he wants
(29:16):
to do do. I mean, that guy is crushing it. But
so that's that your first one killed it? Did you
get an opportunity to do a second? And Netflix has
all the data and the analytics and everything else. So
if they come back to you, they're like, hey, we
love what we saw from this last one. Yeah yeah,
I mean yeah, they don't really tell you, which does
the big thing? Like, so, like the big story with
it was with a stranger things they wanted to renegotiate,
(29:39):
and the actors did and they were like, I don't
you know, it's it's doing good, but it's not great.
And then their agents are like, well, these kids can't
walk outside. Yeah, right, so we know something. And like
the Netflix kind of has that leverage like to be
like Netflix does when you switch from your iPad to
go to your TV if you watch it on your phone.
(30:00):
I mean, do they have everything they know negotiations? Yeah,
how did negotiations go with Netflix? Like I know how
negotiations go for radio or TV or whatever, like, and
we don't have anything in the Netflix world, but presumably
you have your agent. Does Netflix come in and they're like, hey,
we'll pay you x and uh? And then you're like, well,
(30:21):
we want why like or or is it just like
such a good thing for a comedian to be on
Netflix that you're like, well, I know, I'm gonna make
way more money because so many people are gonna see
it right that you're gonna immediately sell out everywhere else.
In other words, I'm not I'm not really aware. Like
if you release an album and you're an artist music album,
they don't make that much money. My understanding is off
(30:42):
the album itself. It's all the concerts and everything else.
And you know the radio airplay is basically an advertisement.
Is that similar in comedy? I mean I know, like
you know, Dave Chappelle is gonna get twenty million dollars
or whatever the heck Dave Chappelle gets and there's sixty
oh my god, three I think for three, So uh,
that's great. But he's bringing a lot to it. I
(31:04):
mean that's what you're I mean, it's not too far
from what you do is like you you gotta get
yourself big enough, which has been through Netflix, but you
get yourself big that you're worth to them. It's like
you have an audience that you're bringing. So then the
negotiating is like way to go to HBO. I'll know
the wherever and like, so that's the leverage that you used.
(31:25):
But they usually do a thing where they have like
a first look deal, so like you would sign you
do you they you do a thing. Sometimes they do
too special deals. Um, if you get if you get
up that Chappelle level and that kind of thing that
you know, you can get the multi special deal. But
they would give you and then they usually have a
first look or something for your next special. So like
(31:46):
a lot of times it's something like that. So whatever
you do, like that first stand ups I ever did,
it was that was like basically like I was doing
a half hour that was like you know, I mean
they it paid great, but it was it was more
than I've made. But it was, um, it was like
I knew that I needed to be in the Netflix community.
It was like you were betting on yourself, Like this
(32:07):
is going to help my career if if they're distributing
my content. Yeah no yeah, people that choose stuff for money,
you don't need to choose stuff for money until you know,
until it's time to choose stuff for money. Like but
it's it's like just get in that world. Because there
was people that wouldn't want to do that half hour
because it was like I don't want to have the
money wasn't good or something. You're like, it doesn't really matter,
(32:27):
Like I need to get in front of those people,
Like that's the audience that they have is enormous, and
it's the fir stand up It's the number one place
that you can go to. Uh and so, and then
you did the next special and then this one, and
then they usually do a thing where like if so
when I do my next one, I think I have
to tell them first and give them the option to
(32:49):
buy it or they got to say no to it,
and then if they say no to it, then I
can go somewhere else. Uh So you're kind of under contract.
I mean, I guess if you wanted to get at it,
I don't know why you would. Netflix is there's nothing.
No one's likes them as far as ever, it's almost
any their borderlines start taking over TV. Yeah, do you
(33:13):
want to do something like so you've done the stand
up specials with Netflix and we're talking to Nate Bargatzy,
does any part of you want to do like I mean,
like I'll give you an example. I think it was
Netflix that has like w w E shows right, like Mike,
they I mean they do sitcoms and other words, my
kids love like all these little sitcoms that they do.
Do you think they'll start to do like more and
more of traditional old school sitcoms, Like would you have
(33:36):
any interest in a multi camera Like I know you've
done pilots before, like everybody who is in you know,
I think I'm on Like I've done like forty Fox
Sports pilots and they all get like shelled or whatever
over the year. But is that have some appeal to
you as well? Like obviously traditional stand up has worked well,
but like a multi camera sitcom style show, Yeah, yeah,
(33:59):
it does. I mean, and I always try to do it.
I mean I always look at it is like, I
got stand up is my what I want to do
for the rest of my life. I stand up is
you can you can kind of become big off stand
up now like you used to not be able to.
But now with Netflix and specials, I mean you can
you can kind of really build a pretty big audience
with that. I do want to do a show, and
(34:21):
I am I am trying right now. I'm trying again.
I've been told no a hundred times and so uh,
we're in a world of it's yeah, it's all knows.
That's the thing people get into any kind of like
entertainment or can like this. They're probably even regular life.
You're basically told no all the time and then there's
just some yeses and then but it's you've got to
(34:41):
get through all the nose and so it's, uh, I'll
hopefully get to do it, and I would like to
do it. But yeah, they started doing the Crew, which
is Kevin James show that's a multi cam on Netflix,
and I mean that feels like a King of Queen
show and so like once you usart of seeing that
and you're like, this is a show that me and
my wife can watch and with our daughter there, and
(35:01):
like you know, it's not like it's not this in
depth like you know, the first for a while, Netflix
is like all like it's like a murder documentary and
you're like, dude, I'm just trying to eat like spaghetti,
like I don't need to be like you know, like
just ingested in this case, and so that stuff that's
so like just overpowering. But now they're doing that like
(35:22):
the crew, some animated stuff and I mean obviously a
lot of that, and so I mean I think they're
gonna be I mean, that would just be where people go, like,
you know it already is, but you know where you're
not even you're just looking at Netflix. You're like, all right,
we can what do you want? We can want to
have everything. So, yeah, I do want to do it again.
Whether it's multi camera, single cam, I don't know. I'm
(35:42):
trying to figure that out now, but that route of
a TV show, I do. Yeah, I do want to
do that. I want to shoot, yeah, because I want
to do it in them and I want to shoot
in Naville. Yeah. And I've asked before, but I'll ask
you down on live radio. You'll let me like I
I played myself in Blue Mountain State. But you'll give
me a spoken line at some point in one of
the episodes, will you agree with Yeah? Yeah, if you
(36:05):
don't get canceled, dude, I'll give you whatever. You know.
I mean, it could happen to anymore, let's be honest.
I mean, it's going to be the last show that
I ever do in radio. I mean that has to
be a little bit scary, by the way, for comedians too,
because you guys used to be like you could say
anything in a comedy club back in the day before
people had their phones. And now like you've got to
be kind of cringing every now and then when you
(36:26):
because you know all these guys, right, and you know
and the girls that end up trending on Twitter for
some joke that they made, you know, five years ago
that's now circling back up or whatever else. I mean,
that's a brave new world, right Or guy gets I
can't even you get on SNL, which is what everybody
wanted to do forever, and then like everybody does a
deep dive into every joke that somebody's ever made in
the history of of their career, and yeah, it's just
(36:51):
would a lot of times. That's right. Yeah, that guy
is the real deal. Uh, he's an unbelievable comedian. Like
he to me would be like the next kind of
Louis k. Like when I he came to Nashville and uh,
and I know him and I went and watched him.
He was the one in that SNL thing that that
he got hired and then that someone went and found
(37:13):
like all these dumb old podcasts that he's done that
had no views, no one listened to him, it's just
a new comic saying trying to be You've gotta learn.
You've gotta learn your craft, right, like and everybody who
ends up successful in anything, Like I'm sure the first
time that you work on a car, if you're a mechanic,
if you went back and looked at it, like after
you've become the best mechanic in the city, you'd be like, man,
(37:33):
I really screwed up when I was trying to learn
how to fix that car the first time, right, and
you're doing other skill, you're doing something weird to twitched.
I mean, look, I'm a clean comedian, but I mean
I was I've cursed and jokes because I was doing
to show it two in the morning to drunks yelling
at me. So you just showed that one thing. I
was like, I was trying to survive, dude, Like I
(37:54):
was like, I'm up there, like what you I was like,
you know, I was like, you're just doing whatever you
have to do when your first starting out. Uh, yeah,
that that kid will be fine though, Like he's he
is the real deal as a comedian, and uh, and
I think I hope that it's it's people are gonna.
I mean, comics have just gotta, like you say, quid,
apologize and just do whatever your act is. I mean
(38:15):
I don't really do anything because I'm not like you
know you want to say, but you do get nervous,
you because you're like, I don't know what if someone
takes something the different way or take it wrong, or
you like, kid, if if they want to highlight you,
they can highlight you, um so and the people want
to do that. I you know, I don't necessarily do that.
It's not like my thing. I don't really care. Uh So,
(38:36):
it's like whatever, you know, but everybody should be able
to do whatever they want to do. Fox Sports Radio
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Last question for you, and by the way, this has
ended up being basically the entire second hour of the show,
(38:58):
So I appreciate you rolling through is but uh is
there somewhat in the world of sports that has senior
comedy special or senior act and you found out that
they are a fan and you've been like, I can't
believe that insert person here is aware that I exist
and or even more than that, enjoyed my show. Has
(39:19):
there has that moment happened for you? It could be
a coach, can be a player, can be somebody associated
with athletics. Uh, there's been I mean, you know the
one that was struck by a del Murphy. Oh, del Murphy.
Del Murphy was on my show. And so del Murphy was. Uh.
When I was a kid, you know, he would always
(39:40):
sweep three sweeps before he was bad. And so when
I played little league baseball, I always did that and
I always did it because of Del Murphy. And I
had no idea and he lives in Utah and I
was in Utah, and then he like tweeted something that
he was at the show, and I mean, he was
unbelievable just because he was my favorite baseball player, which
I'm like, you were the same age. I just tried
(40:02):
affected me with a baseball I don't watch it like
I did, because it was like I was at the
right age. When they stopped playing, you're a team, you're
and you start to find new things. Like That's what
happened to me too. But Dale Murphy is phenomenal. Dale Murphy,
Del Murphy, Bob Horner, Bob Horner. I don't know if
he remember Bob four home runs in a game back
(40:23):
in the day for the Braves. I remember, well, like
out of nowhere. It is like a blondhaired guy right
like uh, kind of kind of portly. Uh. My grandfather,
my granddad and chet Nooga, Tennessee, was a monster Atlanta
Braves fan. So he would watch every game on TBS.
And what's interesting is, I know, you've got a daughter.
My ten year old son has turned into a huge
(40:44):
Braves fan. So it's on every night in our house.
And so I've kind of circled back in through baseball
because of him. And I'm like, you know, this is
kind of fun. It takes you back to when you
were a kid and like you were ten or eleven
years old and you had that same affinity for the sport. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's it's it's it's great now. Like now, I've always
(41:04):
just saw a Vandy guys now, like I'd like, yeah,
Mike just chimsky and like Sonny Gray and God is
always in price like you just always Tony Camps in
Houston like I just did. It's actually pretty great. I've
learned to not have like a crazy loyalty. Like it's
just like you get to watch sports and be like,
I just wanted this to be a good game. I
(41:24):
want to root for these players that I like. It's
like your Jesney being friends with every SEC football coach
because they all like his music. And you're like, wait,
you grew up a Tennessee fan. He's like, yeah, but
I like Steve Spurrier two. He's an awesome dude. And
you know, like you see him pictured at like every stadium,
you know, hanging out in different gear, and initially you're
like that stupid, but then you're like, well, if you
actually meet some of these guys, they're actually pretty good dudes,
(41:46):
and you're like, you root for them maybe more than
you root for a team, if that makes sense. Yeah.
It makes it a lot easier. It makes your life
a lot easier. It makes it like you can sit
enjoy a game and I'm miserable. I mean, once you
get older to you just start realize that you're you
get busy, and then you're like, dude, I can't be
like crying over the Titans or something. Like you're like,
I gotta get it. I gotta get it together. You know. Well,
(42:08):
I'll tell you what I think about now. Sometimes, like
I will sit and watch a game and I'll be like,
like Tennessee, for instance, in basketball, this kid gains is,
his name is, nine years old whatever he is, missed
two free throws in the SEC Basketball Tournament against against Alabama,
and I felt awful for him because potentially Tennessee would
have pulled off the upset been in the SEC championship game.
(42:29):
They haven't won the SEC basketball Tournament in my entire
life as a fan, so I'm forty one, Like that's
a long time to just have a lot of losses.
Every year. I'm like, this is the year and they
lose or whatever. But now I sit around, I'm like,
I would be such a jerk move for me to
tweet something bad about these kids because I have a
way bigger audience often times than they do. It's like,
(42:51):
you know, it's it's interesting the transition from somebody who
just roots for a team to like, man if I
said something like I can't believe you missed that? How
did he choke like that miss those free throws or whatever?
On Twitter, it will be like I would feel bad
because it's like I'm picking on him right because I've
got a big arm. And it's it's crazy transition in
your mind to go from like a casual fan to
(43:13):
are a big fan. But now you've got a bigger audience.
It's like more people are going to see your criticism
of that play that might have been watching that play
almost right, Like it's it's a weird kind of and
you're old enough to be there dead. That's also true
once you get once you get to our age, you
realize how young is oh yeah, and how young and
(43:37):
you're like, dude, that these are kids. That's like my
argument has been uh and this is you could probably
build an entire uh segment about this, but you can't
wear a jersey of someone that is younger than you,
right Like that you like what you're like if I
see guys walking around and you're like, you're forty five
year old and you're wearing like a nineteen year old jersey,
(43:58):
it's like that's kind of you biliating right now for
people like us, Like I could wear a throwback Bo
Jackson jersey, right, Like, my argument is that they have
to be older than me, unless it's your own kid
or you know, some sort of scenario like that. Right,
if one of my kids ever was good enough to
play it, you know, i'd wear his jersey or whatever
to go sit in the crowd. Maybe maybe I would,
Like if you did it, you go, I'm not, I can't.
(44:20):
I've had this. You stick this hard fast, really have
it's like dead, but just swear my jersey and you're like,
the people will call me out for being a hypocrite
and and so, but I've It's funny like as you age,
you start to dress more like the coach um and
so like I wear like when I go to an
SEC football game now, coaches polo right, Like, you're not
(44:44):
you're not trying too hard, but you're not doing too
much like the coaches you know in a college football
game stand on the sideline and the coaches polo and
that's like your look right like, I'm I'm pretty much
gonna be coaches polo for the next twenty years or
so because I'm roughly the age of the coaches now.
And uh, and I think that's the way you have
to to dress for an SEC football game. And I
(45:06):
can't believe earl. Yeah, like it's something like, I mean,
not necessarily I want to like, but it's like you
still understanding some the beaten traffic thing. You're like, oh, yeah,
you know, I like that. I went to one football
game this year. It was Alabama against Tennessee, and I
was like, I just I can't. I don't think I
can sit through this entire game. Like it's just an
(45:26):
absolute drubbing, you know. And I used to be like that,
never leave early, but but yeah, I if you get
stuck in that. That was one of the good things
about that, Probably the only good thing about COVID was,
you know, I've got season tickets to the Titans. Man,
I could pull up park right by the stadium, you know,
I get my kids, I could walk in, nobody was
sitting in front of them blocking their view. We could
go get uh, you know, easy concessions, and then as
(45:48):
soon as the game's over, it takes five minutes to
get to your car, drive right onto the interstate. Like
I was like, man, you know this one third stadium
capacity thing is is not necessarily awful from a fan perspective, Yeah,
oh not at all. Yeah, that's what that's what they
think that's almost what they should do, is like they
could ever do it. It's like just make make that experience,
like focus on that leaving, you know, not being like
(46:11):
I mean you think about airlines, like if they just
spread the sea, you're like, you talk about better everybody's
life would be just I don't understand why at the
airlines they don't have double exits, right, they have the
extra exit thing that they can open in the back.
I've always wondered, why don't they have two different like
little whatever those things are called, like the conveyor belt
(46:31):
thing that they pull up so you can walk off.
It seems like it would be wildly more efficient to
have to than one. It's because they're all against this
man and there they don't want to still have a
good time. I don't understand it. Like every time I'm
standing there like sweating because they turn they turn off
the air and you're like in the back of the plane,
which I've been a lot, and I'm just like this
(46:52):
is just awful, and your kids are throwing a fit
and you're like there's no way for me to get off,
and like why wouldn't they just open the back and
have a double exit. Strategy. You should just yell that
next time and go, hey, this a doorback here. Do
you remember when that guy like opened it and just
got a beer and slid off. Do you remember that,
Like flight attendant was just like I'm and and like
deployed the emergency exit and just slid off the back
(47:15):
with a blue moon. It was like drinking a beer.
It was like, that's the nightmare you set off too.
Is so funny to the net, Like for something like
that to happen, it's like two seconds for that slid
to pop out, and then you're like, I mean it's
like ten hours to get it back and like it's
just a night there like they have down there. Yeah, yeah,
(47:36):
that is phenomenal. Uh Nate. When's your next by the way,
when your next comedy like event? Where are you gonna
be performing next? Do you have one schedule? You know what?
My Miami improv the end of May, that's the I've
got a bunch of club dates of them were sold
out in Miami, not so much. Miami is a tough market.
So not a piller for you, not not the I'm
(47:59):
not I'll definitely get informed there in part of people
that don't know me. Uh, that's that but it that's
a end of May and in the theater tour starting
hopefully starting back up and all that's awesome. Well, we
appreciate all the time. I know how busy you are.
Congrats on the special, encourage everybody to to check it out,
and we'll hopefully talk to you again soon. Yeah man, anytime,
Host
Clay Travis
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