Raven Drum Foundation

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I welcome to Cindy Stumpo tough hisnails on WBS News Radio ten thirty
and I'm here tonight with obviously mynew brunette daughter, Samantha new brunette,
new daughter now will give my newbrunette daughter. And our topic tonight is

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Raven Drum Foundation. That I havethat right? Yes? Okay? Good?
And I guess star Rick Allen,Laura Monroe and Rick what do you
do? Just in case people don'tknow who Rick Allen is, I played
drums with Deaf Leopard and hold on, let's play that down. We just
played drums with def Leppard, right, there's like no big deal, there
was no video. Well, I'vebeen doing it for so long, you

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know, it's kind of second natureat this point. I mean, it's
massive, massive blessing, as youcan imagine. But some of the things
that I do outside of that arereally I'm really passionate about, and Raven
Drum Foundation is one of them.Okay, so let's talk about that.
Why did a rock and roller fromdef Leppard back in the years you guys

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started? The band started in seventyseven, and I joined them round about
my fifteenth birthday in nineteen seventy eight. So seventy eight, you're fifteen.
I'm thirteen. So I just figuredout your age and you just figured out
my I'm fifty. What am IYou're going to be sixty? Sam?
Stop, don't go there gonna sayage. You're not missing anything. I'm
not missing thing. It's not thatbig deal. If I have to age,

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you have to age? Yeah,I guess can you age? And
I stopped. So basically, afifteen year old boy is playing in a
rock band that's already made it outthere? Or were you still making it
out there? No, that wasearly days of def Leppard. You know,
we were still playing smaller, smallershows, you know, small venues,

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clubs, and then we kind ofwe got a break in about nineteen
seventy nine. We opened up forlet's see, we opened up for Sammy
Hagar and then we ended up openingup for Sammy Hay. Wasn't he did
he come later? He can't?It was No, Sammy's Samy. Sammy's

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been around for a long time.He was he was with a band called
Montreal. And then yeah, thisthis was this was this was early day.
So really Sammy gave us one ofour first breaks. And then we
opened for ac DC. I rememberhaving my sixteenth birthday at the Hammersmith Odeon

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with ac DC. Now at thatpoint, you're getting star struck. Now,
yeah, I was totally start.How many kids can say they've you
know, they've played on the samestage as ac DC at that age,
you know, so I just feltI felt really blessed. Yeah, so
things have just gone up and outand def Leppert took off in what year?

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When did they really get home?Probably probably? You know, our
first record, our first LP wasin man LP L days mean nineteen eighty
No, kids don't even know whatLP means, but it's okay, No,
And then and then really I thinkI think our big break was nineteen
eighty three with a record called Pyromania. Correct, Yeah, Pyromania. And

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then right after that what then?And we did a record called Hysteria That
was a nineteen eighty seven big breakbetween Pyromania and Hysteria. But that really
blew the doors off. That wasthat was a massive success for the band.
And as you're hearing this music playin the radio, love Bites is
my favorite, by the way.Yeah, it's beautiful song. I mean,

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I it still excites me. Ofcourse. You know, you hear
something that you were involved with,you know, you hear a song and
yeah, I feel really good aboutit. And then you realize that,
you know, tons of other peopleare hearing it as well. So that's
that's a gift. And you guysare still you still run tours. I
see you've got a tour coming up, right, Yeah, we're going to

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be a Fenway. When was itfifth of August? Yeah? Fifth of
August? Fifth? Yeah, theydon't have a roof on that place,
you know. No, no,we don't know. The Red Sox does
not have a roof over that place. So you guys are still toring.
Is everybody still in the band thatstarted as of in the eighties still there?
Or three of us? The newguys been with us maybe? And

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Campbell he's been with us for whattwenty five years and he's the new guy.
Yeah, we've been together for along time. All right, So
now tell me now that people understandwho you are, where you come from,
they're listening. What makes this foundation, Raven Drum Foundation important to you
and your lovely wife by the way, well, right, like, can

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we introduce her? Do we evenintroduce her? I'm so sorry we didn't
do we ladies, gentlemen, loadenand gentlemen, go ahead introduce yourself.
What are you doing besides being hiswife. You have your own business on
the side. Go ahead, we'regonna hit on you for a minute.
I'm Laura Monroe. I'm the cofounder Raven Drum Foundation with my husband,
and I'm been a teacher of energymedicine for over twenty five years. And

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energy medicine is what is energy medicinesounds like it's something I need say,
I think you do well. That'san umbrella term for a lot of different
momentsties you probably know of, likeacupuncture and reiki, breath work, mindfulness
as an element of energy medicine,anything that's not considered allopathic Western medicine that

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has ancient roots and also new rootsbecause there are a lot of things in
neuroscience that are becoming very very popularand very evidence based around how we can
use our mind to heal. AndI've been teaching this for quite a long
time and that's what we bring tothe foundation along with drumming. Okay,
I'm here for that. And thenyou also playing your own band I do.

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I'm a singer songwriter and I tourand you too. You guys must
live a pretty exciting life. We'rebusy, busy. We're really good thing
busy keeps you young. Yeah.And one of the reasons for Raven Drum
Foundation, or the reason I'm sopassionate about it, is if it wasn't
for first responders, I probably wouldn'tbe here. So I think that's why

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I want to get into why RavenDrum Foundation is so important to you.
And I think we should take thisfrom the beginning. So go ahead.
I'm gonna let Lauren explain. Okay, laurens off, this is what this
is what every wife does. Okay, go ahead, we speak for them.
Okay, I don't want to takethe training wheels off yet. All
right, We're good. You goahead, Loine. Well, in two

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thousand and one, right after Rickand I met, we realized that we
both bringing our gifts together and ourknowledge of trauma. His you know,
I'm not sure if you mentioned itin this interview, but everybody who knows
him well knows he lost his armin a car accident when he was twenty
one years old. That was atthe height of his career. So he

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has a history of trauma and mybackground is healing trauma. And so when
we came together, we realized thatnot only drumming, because I'm a drummer,
I'm percussionist myself. That when westarted drumming together and I started giving
him some guidance in how to usehis breath, how to ground himself,
what to do with when he's feelinganxious on stage, all these little tools

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he would be using on stage,and then we would be practicing together.
We thought, you know what,other people can really use this information and
we can help people. So westarted this foundation. Our first populations of
people were in the public school system, special needs. We went into a
juvenile detention center, work with gangkids, safe houses, cancer care centers,

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and then Rick took a trip towell to Read Medical Center in Washington,
d C. And that was intwo thousand and six, and he
was deeply moved by some of theveterans there, the military there that have
lost limbs and immediately created a bondwith them, and we decided that's our
mission. Now, we need toreally focus on veterans. And now we're

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moving into first responders who are veryunderserved and a lot of them have deep
trauma from their work. Thank youfor that. That was very concise.
That was perfect. Okay, thatwas an awesome elevator page Okay, So
I like this all right, SoI get it. I like this foundation
to stand. We're going to gooff to break, and I want to
just ask you this question. Whenwe come back from break, can you

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tell the audience how you lost yourarm? Are we going to go there?
You don't want to go there withyou? Tell me? I can?
I can go in a in abrief way. You want me to
tell you now or after we're goingto go to break. How's that cool?
Okay? You're listening to Cidey Stumpoand we'll be right back. It's
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I'm Sidney Stumpo and I'm here withSamantha and Lauren, Lauren, Lauren and
Ray Allen. Okay remember their names? Yeah, you're sure? Okay,
moving along fast? Okay, seriously, you might forget well, I'm always
forgetting my own name. No,I remember my name, I just can't
remember like little like what's that for? Breakfast? My mother? Your cousins

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before your name? So you mentionedbefore the break about how I lost my
arm. Let's go, it wasa shark attack. A shark had me
on that one, Okay, that'swhat I tell the kids. Or a
shaving accident, a shavy accident,you took your arm off, Yeah,
and that that normally breaks the icewith the kids. But the reality was

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it was a terrible car accident andI I was driving a left hand drive
car in England and I put myfoot down to pass this car that wouldn't
let me pass miles and then Ilost control of the car, rolled the
car and as I rolled the car, the seat belt that I was wearing

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came undone came across my chest andthat took my arm. And as the
car was rolling, I actually leftthrough the south roof and I guess I
bang my head really bad in thein the in that particular accent. So
I long story short, I dida lot of damage to myself and through

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the help of you know, thethe health system in England, they took
care of my physical wounds. Youknow, obviously I ended up losing my
arm, which is devastating for adrama, but there were a lot of
invisible wounds that I didn't necessarily takecare of the time. So I always

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say I'm a I'm a work inprogress, and I'm still working in progress.
Let's call there dramas. Use twoarps for everything, right, most
of them. Okay, you're righting, yeah, left arm right? Yeah
I was. I was very righthanded, you know, right for kicking
a soccer ball around. That's calledthat football over there. Yeah yeah,

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okay, yeah, So in thatrespect, guys are weird football. You
throw the sockey kick with your foot, but it's okay, you guys can
call it football. But here's myquestion to you, what made you decide?
I'm sure after all this, you'rein your own depression, You're in
your own world. What made yougo back behind those drums and say I

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can do this with the band members? There were they there to help you
or they there to lift you up? Was it family? Was it yourself?
How did you get behind those drumsagain with one arm? My brother
was very instrumental. He stayed withme for the whole month. It doesn't
sound like very long, but hestayed with me in the hospital, and

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he lifted me up. He broughtall the music in that inspired me growing
up, and I started tapping outrhythms with my feet, which really helped
me to realize that I could expressmyself in a new way. My family,

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they were really supportive at twenty oneyears old. Now, remember that
you're a kid, I know,I know. Yeah, I had to
do quite a bit of growing upin a very short short amount of time.
I could never have envisioned, youknow, something this terrible was going
to happen. But there were afew people. Matt Lang was a producer

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at the time. He was verysupportive, and he started talking about things
that I could do, whereas Iwas dwelling on the things that I couldn't
do, and that sort of planta seed and then I really discovered the
power of the human spirit and howI could move forward. And I think

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an AHA moment for me was whenI stopped comparing myself to how I used
to be, and stop comparing myyou know, how I used to play,
and stop comparing myself the guy youwere prior to losing it up.
Yeah, I think we all dothat in our wrong way. Like I
still compare myself to be in twentyfive when I'm not twenty five anymore,
right, So, like you know, it's like, remember, remember like

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remember these and remember so you hadto do a whole I hate this word.
Everybody knows this word, but youdid a complete mindset. I use
the words you did a complete,a complete brain reset. But the world
the new word is mindset. SoI'll go with it. I suppose.
I suppose in many ways yes,And I'm still doing that to this day.

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You know, there's always something new, and it's been it's been good
and bad along the way. Butmeets the first time you get back on
stage one arm, not in yourhome, not playing around yourself, not
playing with family, You're on thatstage, people looking at you, and
you have one arm. Did youfeel like you crushed it that night?

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I did. I was very conservative. I kept I kept thinking simple,
and as a bit of a safetynet, I actually took out another drama
with me, a guy called JeffRich who I'm really grateful that he was
there with me. So they broughtback up just in case, what in
case you was in case went wrong. You know, electronic drums in those

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days, because I remember I'm usingmy feet on these electronic foot pedals,
and you know, it was itwas different, and it was it was
a newer sort of technology, youknow, being able to play electronic drums
as opposed to acoustic drums. Soit was nice to have somebody next to
me that was playing an acoustic drumkit in case something went wrong. And

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this was a small tour. Wedid a warm up tour for a bigger
show that we were going to beplaying in you know, in about a
week or so. That ended upwe ended up actually playing a venue called
Donnington in England, and that wasthis giant festival. So we did a

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few warm up shows and remember thefirst night was great, you know,
myself and Jeff, we'd rehearsed reallywell, We practiced these songs really really
well together. And then the secondnight I ended up playing part of the
show on my own and then hewould come and join me on stage.

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And then the third night he'd gonehome because we had a day off in
between, and he missed this flighton the way back. The flight was
Cancler. Yeah, security blanket's gone. Now, yeah, my security blanket's
gone. So I ended up playingmost of the show on my own,
and then when he came and satdown next to me because he finally got

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a fly. The rest of theguys in the band said well, we
didn't really notice any different, soI was like, well that was good,
you know. And then we endedup playing this show in Waterford and
it was more like it. Itwas more like a bar, very small,
very small stage, and one ofthe crew called me and said,

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well, the place isn't big enoughto get two dram kits on the stage.
Do you want to have a playingon your own? And I said,
yeah, I'd love to. SoI played the show that night on
my own and after the show,Jeff Rich came up to me and it

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was beautiful the way he did it. He just said, I guess I'm
going home tomorrow and that's it,and that was it. That was the
beginning of me doing this on myown and having the confidence to drive a
band, you know, like likedef Leopard. You know, it's crazy
because you look at this generation.They don't know music, Like they listen

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to whatever they're spinning. I canhear it next door, right, they're
spinning. But to me, goingto watch a band back in the day,
or even MTV VH one back inthe day when they just played videos
after videos, right, I alwaysthought the drummer was the sexy guy,
right, that's as a young girl. That's why I saw not the bass
play, not the guitar. Soyou married the sexy drummer, right,

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So that was just my take,the drummer like he made the band.
I don't know why. You know, all my favorite bands today it's always
the drummer, right. Is thatit's just that me? Or is that
a lot of people that watch bandsback in the day. I think everyone
has their own favorite personal connections.What do you like to watch when you're

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watching? I watch everyone I do. I watch when I watch him,
I watch him the most because Iknow when that starts slipping those you know,
but fine, and then they're they'redoing there what's that called? Oh,
stick twirling? You know what Ithink it is? Down left right?
You know what I think is Ithink there's something primal about drumming.

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It's probably the most ancient form thereis in any band. You know,
drumming has been around in every culturemost thousands of years. I thought we're
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And I'm here with the beautiful Samanthaand the beautiful Lauren and the unbelievable,
amazing, handsome what's my name again? Rick Allen? I'm used to
doing this for her all the time? What's my name again? No,
you said pick it up where weleft off, and I forgot what I
was saying. Oh, that's normal. It happens to me all the time.
I think it was the bang onthe head that did it. We
can use that as an excuse,all right, he says, menopause.

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No, he would be low testAustralia. I would be metopause. Okay,
So does the remember what we werejust talking about. No, So
that's it. We're going to clearthat road. Okay. You were talking
about how the second the second guysaid to him, I guess I'm going
home now respectfully said it to himnicely that he could do it on his
own now. And then we startedtalking about why everybody thinks, well not

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everybody, why some people think theDramma is the most sexy guy in the
band, and then I started andthen I started talking about well because it's
the most ancient form. You know, you said it was crimal. It
happens back to you know, dancingaround in loin cloths or less. You
know, so I don't remember thosedays. I just say the drama is
a sexy guy out there. Idon't know why. It's the alms,

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it's the whole thing. The drumstake'sgoing everywhere. Okay, can you both
of you sure a memoral experience fromyour charity work that deeply impacted both of
you together, not as one.There are so many I think most recently

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last year and this year. Thishappened at two different events, and you
couldn't plan this, So this wasn'tsomething that we created per se. But
we work with various people that gothrough trauma. On On two different occasions,
we had people that have lost childrencome and we had this one incident.

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We had eight people come to thisevent that lost children, and one
of these people recognized a first responderthere that was the one that came to
the scene, uh and found herdaughter in a car accident and was the
one that lifted her out of thecar, and she was what she she

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came to her daughter. She cameto the drum circle for healing, this
drum event for healing, and sodid this first responder. They did not
know each other, but then theyrealized that they were together at the scene
of her daughter's death at the accident. He was one of the first responders
that came and she recognized him,and there was this moment really deep healing

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where the two of them, youknow, remembered this event and reconnected and
we have This happened quite a bitbecause we mix our events with first responders,
veterans, people in crisis, andthere's such a synergy with a lot
of them, and this one wassomething we couldn't plan uh, And that
happened quite a few times, justrecently, where it was just created by

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something bigger than us. But whathappens during during these events and during these
circles that people begin to experience theirtrauma in a more intimate way. Because
most of the time we're managing trauma, we're managing our thoughts were either in
the past or in the future.Being in the moment is too painful,
and so when we bring people togetherwith the rhythms and with the cues and

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how to breathe and how to bewith our pain together as a group,
the walls start coming down. We'reable to access We're able to see each
other in ways that we don't normallysee strangers in a room, and we
all become this have this family connection. And I know that's not a specific
uh uh incident that I'm speaking about, but every single event uh is very

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profound for people, and all we'redoing is guiding them to a place to
feel their pain in a way that'ssafe and musical. I have a question,
does everybody walk around with trauma oris it just a generation that we
just tell everybody our trauma now?Because God knows, our grandparents and our
parents didn't talk about trauma, right, they did not talk about it.

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But you know, if you askthe veterans from the I call them the
secret generation. By the way,an ancestry is bringing everything out now.
People have had kids that they didn'thad kids, thought their mothers were their
fathers and their father So that secretgeneration, all the secrets are coming out
now. Well we have this somethingcalled generational trauma too. What is okay?
So look it. I know it'skind of funny and I'll use me

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as an excuse. Since twenty sixyears old, I've had crippling panic disorder.
Right, I don't know when mytrauma is, like I've went,
I've talked like literally, I can'tfind the trauma that gives me these panic
attacks. Right. So, afterat twenty six years old they first hit
up, I literally said to doctor, could these be genetic? Nope,
Cindy, panic attacks or trauma?Could they be hormonal? No? No,

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no no. Twenty years later,after twenty years of dealing with them,
we find out they are genetic andthey could be hormonal. Right.
But twenty years that I walked aroundthem, I can't find anything in my
life that should cause me from thinkingI'm dying at the moment, right.
So, and I don't really seewhere I have had trauma, but it

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be around me has had trauma.So I'm trying to figure out where's my
trauma right Right. That is sucha brilliant thing to bring up because it's
not about the story of the trauma, because the trauma is in the body.
And I work with a really beautifulman, a scientist. His name
is doctor Bruce Slipton, and hewrote the book The Biology of Belief and

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in our cellular memory, we holdtrauma and and we can you know,
we can be perceiving trauma as oursand have panic attacks and have these moments
where we're built out of control anddon't remember what caused it. That's it's
a normal thing, just being youknow, trauma can happen in the womb
even before you end. Okay,it is true that trauma can carry on

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from generations and be passed down onehundred really ancestral baggage is what I call
it. Anyway, So I couldbe carried my great great great great grandmother's
boy. Yeah, And I thinkthat's the beautiful thing about learning how to
be with your body and being ableto it doesn't matter. The story of
the trauma doesn't matter because it's astory. What happened to your body is

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the thing that you want to connectwith and clear and learn how to regulate
your nervous system and be aware.You know, when that panic attack,
when that's diet. You can't reasonwith me for twenty minutes, right,
that's it. I'm dying, butI've been dying since twenty six. Eventually
I want to die, right,Eventually it's going to happen. That's really
going to die. But no,they're very they're very scary, and I

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keep looking for the trauma. Butlike you're saying, it could be my
mother's trauma or my grandmother's trauma.Mom, you say all the time that
you're very empathic, so maybe you'refeeling everybody else's trauma that very umpthing too.
Yes, I think you know empathicsensitive people. I think the most
important thing is to learn what issomeone else's energy and emotions and what your

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own is, because then it becomesthis mixed bag of energy and emotions and
you don't know who's who's. AndI think that's so important. I've noticed
people born under certain signs, likeI'm a cancer one on that cancer sign.
It seems like we have the mostempathetic and EmPATH people ever. Like
you tell me something, I feelit. If I watch a video somebody

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getting beat up in the video whichall these crazy videos, my algorithm has
changed on my Twitter, so it'sone bad video of and I get like
I can feel it. It's ahorrible, it's a curse in the blessing.
But to go back, my questiontoo, is when you're dealing with
all this and this foundation, howdo you leave it behind you? And

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go home and have a normal lifewith your husband and you with your wife,
Like, how do you not takethis type of work home with you?
I learned at an early age howto protect myself and everything we do
and what we create comes from reallybeing very very conscious and learning where to

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put our mind and our intention andbeing very familiar with our own heart.
And you have to set boundaries psychicallyand with your mind to be able to
hold the space. And also forme, it's believing in a higher power,
like everything that happened in someone else'slife and I'm a witness to that
moment when they're sharing their pain.I'm not saving them. There's a higher

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power that's guiding them. And inthat moment, I hold the space and
someone has a moment of healing,and I know that that will continue for
them. And I learned the hardway. I was I'm an empathic healer
similar to you, but I'm alsoa physical impath. So I started working
with cancer care patients, patients inthe oncology ward. Back when I first

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started doing this work, I wouldstart experiencing the side effects of chemo when
I went home, and it wasn'tme. I wasn't getting the I'm a
Virgo, but I'm a Scorpio moon. And there's a lot about astrology that
I would break down because it's notjust about your son's sign but h so,

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and it's about how your brain iswired too, and and and my
brain was wired to feel everybody allthe time. And so if someone was
having a panic attack, I wouldfeel it, uh and physically I would
start feeling it. And so Ilearned very quickly that you have to create
these these these boundaries. Yeah.And if I don't, I don't know

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that word. By the way,it's essential because if you don't, your
life will You'll suffer more, especiallywhen you're trying to help people. Well
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City. Stumpo Toughest Nails on WBCNews Radio ten thirty and I'm we're actually
laughing every time we go to breakthe best questions are asked it's always the
best questions when we go to breakSamantha, Yes, can you introduce every
morning? Rick? Okay, perfect, because some people come in halfway through,
right, So I just ad laurensand virgos. So I said to

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Rick, when's the last time youwant to fight on an argument? And
would you say Rick every day?And I said, no, I think
I win the fight, but inreality, I I I don't. Rco
always wins. Yeah, I know, you know they say the way you
being a water sign and her beingearthed, she probably levels you out a
lot. She does well, I'man Italian virgo. She has five votes.

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I know, well, well,I win, but he thinks he
does and that makes it all good. No, she makes me think I
win. Yeah, she makes youthink that's it. But the thinkin what's
your rising scorpio, oh rising capricorn, it doesn't matter. The Virgo's loyal
and that's all that matters. Andthe virgo's got a big hot too.
I know. I got a virgoas a son and I got there's daughter.

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So tell me about what is coming? What what do you see for
this mission that you're on? Likewhere we go in here with this mission
what's going to finally make you guysfeel like you've you've hit the home run,
Like, okay, we've we've madethis successful. We feel good because
see you start talking trauma. Nowwe can start talking about other trauma.

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Like we got kids. I don'tknow if you're following in every eleven minutes
somebody's diameter of a fatanyl overdose rightbetween the age of I think eleven twelve
to twenty eight, right, youwere in the scene of you know,
rock and roll sex, rock androll drugs. That was the error of
the eighties. You know, wedidn't really have people dying of snow and

(32:15):
coke back in nineteen you know,eighty two. It just kind of was
unheard of. And now we getkids dying every eleven minutes, right,
and I've been following that. That'smore trauma coming like wee do you guys
stop? Weir? Do you crossthe boundaries? Like we can't take everybody
into our foundation because now you getparents that are losing children to one pill

(32:38):
right that they might buy at schoolan adderall or when you look around what's
going on in our country? Idon't know. For some reason, on
my Twitter, my algorithm I've trainedit in three days to watch all the
most terrific videos, right kids beatingeach other up to death, putting them
in seizes, putting them in combers, dying parents trying to figure out how

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to lose my kids, setting mykids school. So there's so much.
This world's got so much, evencrazy. It's just not the veterans,
everything you've been paying attention to.It's the reality of what's coming down the
road to us. Absolutely, andI think I'm gonna just just absolutely because
the goal is collaboration and bringing inpeople. We have a platform, and

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I think we can't heal every singleperson it just the two of us and
and take care of them and educatethem. But as a team, we
can't like people like you talking aboutthis issue. We have a group we
started a couple of years ago calledtwelve Drummers Drumming as part of our organization,
and it's a list of legendary drummerswho come forward and that we do

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auctions. Right now, we havean auctions Rocksteady do give smart dot Com
and they sign memorabilia and they alsospeak out around the problems that we have
around trauma and general that come toevents. We have folks like Joey Kramer
for em Rassman, and there's Joeyand Wally Ingram from Sheryl Crow and Todd

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Trushaman from Styx, and the listgoes on, and they're all showing up
because they understand trauma and and they'respeaking about it as well. I think
we need to be champions of healing. There's a lot of people that have
been through a lot of things andthey're overcome it, and we have to
share how we did it. Notonly not only musicians, but also now

(34:23):
we're collaborating with teachers, teachers thatare our consciousness teachers and scientists to teach
of what's going on in our brainwhen we have a we have a disconnect,
a serious disconnect in our In ouryounger generation, you think, yeah,
well, the thing is, theydon't they not even know what it's
head and mind disconnect and mind disconnect. We're in a crazy world right now,

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so we have to emulate what ishealed ourselves. The way to help
another person is to heal yourself andteach someone how you did it. And
that's why they see heal people,heal people and hurt people. Hurt people
one percent. It starts from us. It starts from us, and once
we heal us, we work withour own families, we work with our

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community, and then it's a rippleeffect and then we come on and shows
like this and we talk to you, and then the people that are listening
can go, how can I changethings? Can I? How can I
change things in my family? Howcan I change things for myself? But
here in lies the problem that Isee is that Rick, if you could
talk to Rick at fifteen or howold you were and you got on the

(35:27):
accident twenty one, twenty, ifRick today could talk to a twenty one
year old Rick, he would givehim good advice. But twenty one year
old talking to twenty one year oldRick, you thought what you're twenty one?
Like, life has no meaning.I'm just gonna go and enjoy my
life like we can't get If wecould get younger people to think a little

(35:50):
bit more maturely and look at lifelike, what would you say to yourself
today at twenty one and twenty one? Yeah, I'm gonna get a roll
this car. I'm gonna do whatI want to do. And it's a
cocky attitude that we all have atthat age, and some of the more
punky than others. I know Iwas kind of punky. I didn't take
any from nobody, right, thatwas nothing happened. If I wasn't so

(36:10):
full of myself, I may besitting here with two arms. But there
again, if I was, ifI had two arms, we probably wouldn't
be having this conversation to start with. So in many ways, you know,
people have said, well, youknow, what would you do differently?
And the first time you Rick talkingto twenty one year Rick, Yeah,

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well, just having a five minuteif you go back five minutes in
time that day, what would yousay, Just have the patients and stay
behind the car. I think Ithink that, Yeah, you know,
the tendency to be hot headed oryou know, to to have a short
fuse. You know, if ifsomebody was in my way, if there

(36:59):
was a car are in my waythat wouldn't let me pass, then the
lesson would have been patience. Isn'tit funny? You know you're in a
hurry and you're always sitting behind theslowest driver on the pope, always on
my way here tonight, yes,yeah, so, and the idiot doesn't
want to move. But it's thatyou go like, well, maybe I'm

(37:24):
sitting behind this car or this truckor this railway crossing. I'm sitting here
for a reason. Maybe just thatlittle bit of time difference is going to
save me from something far worse.But we don't think that way. We
don't think. So when you're doingwhat you do, can you get into

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kids' heads? Like, can youget into these kids that thought the way?
He thought the way look at everybodyin this room at twenty one,
two, twenty five, twenty eight, at a younger age, like life
is precious. We don't know lifeis. I knew life was precious when
I had gave birth to Samantha.That was a game changer for me.
Right, you hold this baby andyou go, oh my god, my
holy, oh my god. Mywhole life changed. So if we can

(38:14):
get into young kids' heads, that'swhat I try to do. That's where
I donate my time trying to talkto these kids. Teach them the skill
gap, teach them the trades.Get into the trades. Not every kid's
made for college. Calm down thecockiness, calm down that behavior. Life
is precious. I just want myson all the time, right, He

(38:35):
thinks life's been whatever. You I'lljust go out and be a thirteen year
old daughter. You understand that mindset, and I think you're doing everything you
say is the most essential is togive them a voice, let them know
they're significant, that there, thattheir their opinions matter, and teach them
how to listen to their intuition andbe able to vocalize it and validate them

(38:58):
and teach them. They think alittle weird this generation. They're very weird.
I see, I'm very little bitacial. I see a very food,
superficial mindset. And because of socialmedia, I think, and you
know, even if you come fromthe most holistic home with a lot of
integrity, uh, they're still exposedto that mindset as being better and you

(39:21):
know, more innovative and cool andand that's okay, that's how they're going
to think. But in the end, your roots kind of will steer you
at some point in your life becauseyou have to make a decision on what
kind of person you want to be. Can we just bring back some old
school values, some old some ofthe I did that with my kids.
I did, and having them aroundthe grandparents and having that's been important to

(39:45):
me. Right, they seem prettynormal. Yeah, she seems pretty normal.
She's my cuckoo eries right, andthen I get a cuckoo she.
You know, it's one thing tolove your children, but when you can
honestly say I like you, Ilike her like I love my children,
but I like her. There aredays I don't like her, but I

(40:06):
always love her, right, Butthere's more days I like her, and
then I get the virgo. Ilove him, and then there are days
I don't like him, And youdon't you want to like your child.
Once you like your children, youknow you're going down to good path.
Although I thought we're going to break. I'm Sidy Stump when you listened to
w BZ News Radio ten thirty andwe'll be right back and welcome back to

(40:32):
taugh as Nails. I'm Cindy STUMPOand WBZ News Radio ten thirty. Go
ahead, you take us out.I just want to remind people to go
and visit us. How do theyfind your Ravendrumfoundation dot org. I'll come
see us on social media. LaurenMonroe Live, Rick Allen Live, and
just take an interest in becoming partof our community and healing through music and

(40:54):
alternative medicine and supporting first responders,veterans and people enter crisis. Music is
the key. I think music isthe way for all of us to come
together. As there any boxes oryeah, yeah, I'll be coming back
to Boston with Deve Leppard, Ithink fifth of August and then people can

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check out where else in the countrywe're going to be. But we love
coming to Boston, so we'll seeAugust fifth fantastic at Fanway Park. Okay,
everybody, have a great, safeweekend. This is Cindy Stampo w
BZ News Radio ten thirty. We'llsee you next weekend.