April 25, 2025 • 49 mins
We discuss the new Ryan Coogler movie - 'Sinners'
What did you think of the movie? Did you like the ending? Are we dumb?
Written & Directed by Ryan Coogler and starring 2 Michael B. Jordan(s) & Hailee Steinfeld - Trying to leave their troubled lives behind, twin brothers return to their hometown to start again, only to discover that an even greater evil is waiting to welcome them back.
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What did you think of the movie? Did you like the ending? Are we dumb?
Written & Directed by Ryan Coogler and starring 2 Michael B. Jordan(s) & Hailee Steinfeld - Trying to leave their troubled lives behind, twin brothers return to their hometown to start again, only to discover that an even greater evil is waiting to welcome them back.
Join the conversation on social media - @MACandGUpodcast
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Aren't you gonna invite me in?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yuh? I'll tell you what. This movie has some incredible
lines of dialogue, most notably from a one Miss Hailey Steinfeld.
And I have been thinking about two lines of dialogue
for three days now. I don't know how long ago
I saw this movie, and typically goo right. Here's how
it goes when we watch in review movies. This is
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what happens for most people. You walk out of a theater,
you think it's this right, eight nine ten, in our case,
thirty six or seven or eight to nine forty, and
then after a couple of days goes down a dog
or two, or you're starting nitpicking it. I think just
the two lines of dialogue from Hailey Steinfeld has propped
this movie up. It might even be a dog higher
than what I felt like leaving the theater. I can't
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get it out of my head. I keep thinking about
this movie and then like those lines of dialogue, and
then I start thinking about more things about this movie.
This movie is not perfect, but it's fucking sticking with me.
Go it's sticking with me.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
But are you gonna invite people into your home now?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
If they're proposing to do what Hailey Steinfeld is. Yes,
she is more than welcome in vampire form or in
human form. I'm I'm a I'm of a mind that
makes some moogie. Let's say that one good? Three?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, just three, King of Queen MARYL.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Street Entertainment, Go and I'm Mac.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
And you might be saying to yourself for these two
the same person. Now we're different. We're Mac and Go.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
That's right, we are both wearing blue today. Though good
coordination on our end. We just we got our real
hive mind, like like this movie.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, like Michael A and B Jordan and all the vampiers.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yes, yes, yes, today we are discussing box office sensation
Sinners the latest, and some may varue the greatest Ryan
Kugler movie starring Michael B. Jordan. Good. Sinners is a
movie that when it was announced maybe the middle of
last year, everyone was like, oh, Okay Cougler Michael B.
(02:25):
Jordan in definitely and you're like, oh, it's like a
horror thriller set in the nineteen.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Phar so other horror mystique vampire and some of us said.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Huh, yeah, this is weird, and this movie is weird,
but I think we can now officially say that Ryan Kugler,
when given the keys to anything, he's gonna make that
bitch run like this. This is an original idea, original script.
It's not adapting anything straight from Ryan Kugler. I'm sure
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there were some influences, obviously. I don't know. Man, Ryan
Couger gets it. He can make movies.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
You know what it reminds me of it. I'm not
comparing it to these movies, but what I would compare
it to in its uniqueness and how it's doing on
Rotten Tomatoes and with its reception is get out and Crap.
I just had it in my head, the John Krasinski movie.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Oh well, you can't talk to anyone? The hell is
it called?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
That's what it's called. You can't talk to anyone.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
They silent, the monsters can hear. No, it's called short One.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
But it's a lot like that where it does so
much right. There's some stuff that you can nitpick, obviously,
but they're so unique and different that they really stand out.
Are you looking it up?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah? I'm look quiet.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Oh it's called shut up zip it. It's called zip
is Ziblah.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
It's called The Boss. Is it gonna get you? I
think that that's pretty pretty more so with Get Out,
I feel like too, in that it's a movie that
sits with you for a little bit and you think
about it and like, by the end of the year
you might like it more than you do now. At
least that's where I'm starting to trend now that I'm
a couple.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Of days truly fringe horror, like really not very like
this could.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Have been a great movie without the horror, and I
think there's even and we'll get into it a little bit.
The horror isn't shoehorned in, but I feel like it
either could have come in earlier or remove it all
together and we still got it like a great movie.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
But the horror adds a little commentary at the end.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yes, for sure, there's I just the horror element might
be my least favorite part of the movie, if that
makes sense. The more it complicates things a little bit,
and I have some critiques there, but it is like,
as far as vampire movies go, there's not many better, right,
Like vampire movies can be kind of two tongue in
cheek or b movie like this like takes them seriously
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and like, I don't know, it's it's I have a
hard time like naming a better Van Empire movie.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You know, I'm sure there's a couple, but I've never
seen another vampire movie. This's my first vampire movie. What
I love about the way they treat the vampires in
this movie, which also I wouldn't have minded if in
the trailers there was never a mention of vampires and
then forty five minutes in you're like, what the fuck
is going on? But also I will say this, they
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respect the rules of vampires in this movie better than
maybe anything in a very long time.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Well, right, so there's two basic rules with vampires, and
they really just adhere to those two. They don't complicate it,
they don't get too much into.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Well there's more than just two, but yes, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Well they really it's like sunlight kills them and you
have to invite them in that.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Also, wooden steaks, garlic, they have a bunch of other
stuff in there.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, you're right, you're right, Actually, yeah, true, Yeah, I don't.
All right, let's let's get into it. Sinners made forty
eight million on its opening weekend. Huge opening for a
movie that's you know, not a well known, not a
known ip whatsoever, you know, brand new fucking idea from
the mind of Ryan Coogler. It's up to seventy one
million domestic after a week and a half, eighty seven
(06:11):
million worldwide. It's gonna make a ton of money again
this weekend. It's holding strong. It's had one of the
best strongest releases post Easter in a long long time.
It is a rated R action, drama, horror and thriller
and goo. Why this movie is so good is the
drama element the characters that they give you in the relationships,
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the way these characters are connected is the best part
of this movie. And the other things that get brought
in heighten those things. But the drama element in the
relationship between characters here is why this movie kicks ass.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I actually love the little bit of humor that is
tossed in there because it feels so natural. And I
do think that has a lot to do with the
charisma of two Michael B.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Jordan's Yeah, were you distracted by two Michael BEA's at all?
I was distracted a.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Little bit because they weren't different enough, like they had
like minor differences. Usually when you see two of the
same actor, like say if they're playing twins. One of
them has a British accent, you know which ones which?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, I think they even had the same facial hair here,
so there was like no reason.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
That's a cool facial hair though, like that that's of
the time. By the way, period piece. The look of
this movie, it's fucking beautiful. It is a beautiful movie,
and they go out of their way to like really
show the landscape and how big the South is the sky,
which does play into stuff later.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I think it's one of those movies where the town,
the setting, the times becomes a character in and of itself. Right,
we're talking early nineteen thirties in the Deep South, where
there's obviously like it's there's deep racism there, you know,
the clans involved a little bit. I think it's was
it Clarksville, Mississippi something like that.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
It's in and around Mississippi.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, it plays a big part in this movie and
becomes a character. And Cougar did an incredible job setting
that scene that time. Like there's a there's a shot
in this movie where smoking stack or downtown at this
Mississippi thing and like, oh, I need a sign, and
then uh, the Chinese family who is accepted in both worlds,
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the black community and the white community. The daughter walks
across the street to the white side, and it's a
tracking shot across the street, which I loved into the
white like he just like the small little things like that.
It's a it's like an eight minute tracking shot, but
it sets like the whole scene, and it gets you
to understand like the gravity of what's going on in
the time and place.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Accepted as in like they're allowed to sell people stuff
like I would assume that if you're looking in the
communities of both, they're probably not accepted in either.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
You're right, they're they're they're outliers in both, kind of
pariahs in both, I suppose, but they're according to the whites,
higher than the black people. And then the black people
they're not white, so they they're able to bounce around
in both worlds. Good. This movie has a run time
of one hundred and thirty seven one hundred and thirty
seven minutes, two outs and seventeen minutes. I almost needed
like a good five or tenants ten minutes more on
(09:15):
some remic background, so a little more vampire background, a
little bit an earlier introduction, so that his character had
a little more gravity, was a little more sympathetic because
by the end you're actually really you really like this character,
and you're like, well, I wish I got a little
more backstory here.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Or even some vampire foreshadowing in the first third of
the movie, just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
We needed a little bit of it, because when he's introduced,
it's kind of out of fucking nowhere. Like it. It
was mildly annoying because you go into this knowing it's
a vampire movie and you don't see any vamps until yeah,
probably the beginning of the second act, and ultimately that's okay.
But because the villain Remiic played by Jack O'Connell, is
so good and there's so many parallels being drawn between
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what that experience is and what like the black experiences
in the South in the nineteen thirties, you kind of
wish to get a little more background there, and you
never get it. You just have some lines of dialogue
from him.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
But also, if he wasn't there, if this wasn't a
vampire movie and it was just about two brothers running
a nightclub and then having to deal with some aftermath
after about maybe not making enough money or dealing with
the people that sold him the barn like that also
would have been a very interesting movie.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I totally agree. And I wonder, I wonder at what
point did this become a vampire movie or was it
always a vampire movie? Like was did Coogler have this
idea to tell this story about black people in the
south of the thirties and draw parallels with like the
whole vampire religion type of thing. And that's the other thing.
There's a huge religious undertone to this and questioning religion
(10:51):
and how it basically is a tool to oppress people and.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Has been questing the power of music as well.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Right, And that's a genius part of this script as well,
is it really makes you question, if you haven't already
you know some why religion is the way it is,
how it came to be, and why it's used the
way it is. Goo on Rotten Tomatoes, this movie has
ninety eight percent from the critics ninety seven percent from
the audience on Metacritic in eighty four so by the
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end of the year this is still going to be
one of the best movies of the year by those metrics.
I'm sure we'll still be talking about this movie by
the end of the year. And of course this is
written and directed by Ryan Couger. We've mentioned him a
couple of times already. You would know Couglar from Fruitvale Station.
That was his debut. That's where him and Michael B.
Jordan first got together. It was twenty thirteen. Creed was
(11:40):
the next effort, which was I think once Creed happened,
because no one wanted a new Rocky movie, right, no
one wanted to dabble in that universe. Again, Creed happens,
and you're like, oh, I guess we can make more
Rocky movies Michael Jordan and Ryan Couger. Yeah, right, right,
and I would say yes. And then of course he
did Black Panther in Wakanda Forever. So so far that's one, two, three, four,
(12:02):
This is his fifth movie. I'd say he's five for five.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Oh, Roddy Te's had a chart up of all of
his movies. I think he's six for six. You might
be missing one, but he's either high eighties or nineties
and everything.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, so clearly once again, like hand him the keys
to whatever, you know, key to the city, let him
do whatever the.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Hell whiles I believe is his next thing, right.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Well not yeah, they've been talking about it. What's officially announced,
at least on IMDb is he has Isaah Wakonda coming
up I think at the end of this year, which
is in the MCU. And then something called Wrong Answer,
and the synopsis for that is a math teacher in
Atlanta is scandalized when he looks to get funding for
his school by altering his students' test scores. So that
seems to harken back to the fruit Vale roots because
(12:43):
Fruit Veil I think was based on a true story.
That seems like it's based on a true story.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I thought it was about every time I ask you
a question.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Michael B. Jordan already signed on for Wrong Answer too,
so yeah, I'm sure we'll be looking for.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
That many others. Michael B.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Jordan's I Think Just Be A is not going to
be in that synopsis. Goo for sinners trying to leave
their troubled lives behind, twin brothers return to their hometown
to start again, only to discover that an even greater
evil is waiting to welcome them back. This stars Miles
Catan Caton as Sammy Moore slash Preacher boy one second.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So first off, he's amazing in.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
This his first movie ever.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
He does the singing in this correct that is actually
really enjoy his singing voice.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Hell of a voice.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
But I'll also say, and it's not the fault of
the movie, but whenever I hear preacher Boy, I think
of paper Boy and then I start singing that in
my head.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Enough. Jack O'Connell as Remick, he is the main vampire,
the main villain. I guess Michael B. Jordan as both
Smoke and Stack, the twin brothers that we've been talking about. Goo,
your hand is raised again.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
In the movie. Now I could tell them at part
because one had a red suit one did not. But also,
did you know their names throughout the movie?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Once they attached them to their loved ones, then I
had it figured out. Okay, And they do separate them
like at the beginning of or towards the end of
that first act too, so you're kind of feeling it out.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
But a funny though if they called each other by
the wrong name a lot, because that would have just
confused everyone, but no one would have wanted to question it.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
What what is cool? Smoker Stack?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
The name Stack?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I think smoke smokes cooler.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Okay, so we just figured it out. I'm Stack, You're smoke.
All right, sounds I'm thinking like stacking papers.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Oh but huh so all right, we'll get back to that.
What would you rather be? We'll ask that question.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Who would I rather be?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Smoke or Stack?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
You'll have to tell me at the end which ones?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Which strong cough I have there. David Maldonado as Hogwood,
he's the guy that sells the property to smoke Stack.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I also want that name, though.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Hogwood, you want to be Stack, Hogwood, Hogwood, Stack, Hogwood.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Helena Who as Lisa Chow. She is the Chinese wife
and mother. Uh just yao. Apparently this gentleman just goes
by Yao. As Bo Chow, he was great. He's the
father husband, del Ray, Lindo has Delta Slim. Was awesome.
Every line of dialogue he.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Said was Was he in too much of the movie
to give him plemonade?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yeah, I'd say so. Yeah, he's fully in two thirds
of the movie.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
But look at the billing though, look how far down
he is.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I know.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
But all right, Credit Union, Max, Credit Union.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
It is a real group of characters here, Jamie Lawson
as Pearline. She was great too. You would know her
as Bella Reale from the Batman Universe. She plays a
nice role in this Goo. Hailey Steinfeld is Mary. You
want to talk plemonade. There's your fucking plemonade.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Right, he's in't too much of the movie. No, she's not,
And she's like second billing. If you look at the posters,
she's on the poster, you can't give her.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
She's second billing. But she only has what like eleven manes.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
No, you may plemonade in your pants when you saw her,
but come on, yeah, that's what you did.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
This is a pe program here. Uh Goo Omar Betson
Miller as Cornbread. You might remember him from eight mile
I Love when this dude pops up.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
He's also on what was the Rock?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
It goes in the Chittn' tickey, don't freaking goes Done Done,
Dune freaking goes.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
What was that show with the Rock and Rob Kaudrey
where they played agents. It wasn't Entourage, but it was
Football Ballers.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah, yeah, Ballers on HBO. There you go. Uh one
Meme Masaku as Annie. This is Smoke's love interest. Mary
is stacked love interest. Uh, you would know her as
I wish you'd be fifteen in the Marvel universe in the.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
MCU oh, I didn't even realize that.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, that's her.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
And then also she you know, also some I wouldn't
say voodoo people accuse her of you of voodoo. In
the movie, she is like loosely aware of She's the
one that everyone know what the rules are. She's the
Jimmie Kennedy of the movie.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah. Uh. We also get Buddy Guy as old Sammywards
the end of the movie noted blues Legend. That was great,
and then a couple other characters here. Saw Williams as
Jedi Dier. That's Preacher Boy's father the Preacher Andreine Warren
Hummon is Ruthie Tanaje l Jackson's Beatrice. Sam Malone is Terry.
I put him in here because his one scene is
(17:17):
when he's robbing the truck and he shot in the
leg Are you great fucking scene? And then the other
two main vampires we meet it at some point. The
first two that get turned are Peter Dromanus as Bert
and Lola Kirk as Joan, and they were perfect at
like playing second fiddle as well. The casting of this
movie was a plus. They fucking absolutely nailed that.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Oh, the casting, the like so much of this movie.
I think you got a Cinema score of like an a.
So much of this movie and the feel of this
movie is a plus.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
It feels like a movie that did everything right and
so the only real things you can nitpick or or
script decisions. And I think that's sort of where I'm at, Like,
I have no gripes about anything this movie other than
like when things take place in the story in something
they decided to do or not do. So it's a
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really hard movie to criticize in that way, and I
think that's why you're seeing such high scores, because they
nail every aspect of what makes a movie good.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Well, I think that it does lack in the horror department,
but I'm not necessarily looking for a truly spooky scary
movie here.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
No, I agree, And I think if someone came into
this wanting full vampire movies, you might be not a
little disappointed.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, if you're going into this looking for the full vampire,
gore zombie monster movie, it ain't that yet.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah. No, I agree, I agree, and go another thing
that I think was this movie's strong point is it
essentially takes place over one day. You have like a
final fifteen minutes or so that is not taking place
that day, but the core of the movie. This, the
plot of this movie takes place one day. And I
love that. It's just like you're in and you're out.
It helps with the pacing. Even though it's a two
(19:05):
hour and seventeen minute movie, it didn't feel long. He
almost needed a little bit more. Like I said, the
music and the scores unreal and music is such a
central part of this more movie and storytelling, and they
use it in fantastical ways. There's a couple truly great
musical scenes here. I just I have like some questions
(19:25):
and maybe a couple cons.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
We can do that in spoilers, though, because I think
we can dive a little bit deeper. Let's do the
gauntlet real quick. I actually added one if you don't mind,
but okay, quite along with me. Let's go with fun factor.
And I thought it was the first even before we
got to the vampires. I thought that of Preacher Boy
with his cousins and going to set up their day,
(19:48):
I thought that was wildly fun.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, and that's like if when you really nail a
setting in a period piece, it becomes fun because it's
like it's history and you're like, oh, this is what
it was like that, and you're like gripped by everything
on the screen. And that's why I like, I'm having
a heart, Like when I'm thinking about this movie in
retrospect a couple of days removed, like, man, they did
(20:11):
that well, they did this well, they nailed that. I'm like,
this movie might be going up on the dog scale,
Like it's just it's a very fun movie, setting, characters, music,
Like it's a very fun movie.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Also, as the movie goes along, you find out a
little bit more each minute about smoke Stack and preach
a boy and their family.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Right, and and that's so maybe if this took place
over a week instead of a day, you would have
gotten more of that. I don't know if it's better,
but I like how. I like how you get the tidbits,
you know, But.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I also don't need perfect bows tied on everything. I
like some things left to not the imagination. But like
you can interpret it different ways.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
And there's something to be said about like leaving the
theater wanting more of this in that you know.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
So I'm glad that you brought that up, satisfactor. I
think this movie does an amazing job of giving you
a very satisfying ending, but I'm not sure if I
wanted that.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I'm I'm somewhere in and around there with you. It
walks a fine line at the end that I think
I liked, but I don't know if I liked, And
I'm sure as we have this conversation, I'll make my
mind up on that. There is a very satisfying Tarantino
like conclusion to our main story. And then there's like
(21:31):
a epilogue kind of mid credit scene that continues the
story and like it gives you a definitive answer to
a certain question. And I don't know if it needed that.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I'm gonna tip my hand. I didn't care for it.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Okay, all right, that's fair, And.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
The Tarantino ending almost makes it feel like that was
the ending of a movie that say, if they didn't
have the vampires, that would be the conclusion.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, it was interesting and that part was satisfying, but
it's not the actual end of the movie, which is
why it's like, okay, And again, I wonder if when
when Koogler was writing the script, like when he decided
to put vampires in this movie. You know, I don't
know if it was something that he had from the
beginning or not. And the movie doesn't.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Tell you that or not borometer not boring.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It's not a boring movie because even.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
The stuff that I and I'm not even saying I
don't like it. I just think I would have liked
the end to be a different spot. But that stuff
isn't boring. It's interesting. I'm just not sure if I
like it.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, and even though it takes a little bit to
get into the vampire element of this movie, because they
nailed like the time and place of nineteen thirty South,
like that stuff is not born.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
I had the most fun in the setup.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, Yeah, agreed, Halloween.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Will this movie wane over time?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
No?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I think that this will be more appreciated over time.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, I agree, And I think I already appreciate it
more than I did when I left the theater. I
don't know if it's gonna be like in our top
four by years end. I have a feeling like it's
probably just gonna miss out, but it'll be in the conversation,
It'll be at the very least like horrible mention for
a best movie of the year.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Hawk water World. It's better than water World for sure. Spooky, scary,
did you jump at all?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
No, So it's not going back to your point about
horror movies. It's not really a great horror movie, right.
But also like vampire stuff never really leads to great
horror movies either. You know, like I, you're never truly
scared by vampires, right, it's just they are what.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Even the vampires in this I wasn't afraid of the vampires.
I found like like I did even find them eerie.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
They were the only like eerie shot. Oh, there's a
couple scenes actually, when Cornbread goes out to take a piss,
when you hear the voices, that was cool and like spooky.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
And then there's one musical thing. There's a musical thing
going on.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah. Then when Mary goes out to confront them and
she turns and you see remick like float dish. Pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
No, I didn't like that. That's how you vampires do.
You don't know what vampires do. I don't max credit Union.
I want to give credit to the people that decided
that we're gonna play by the normal rules of vampires.
We're not gonna create our own rules. They're not gonna
sparkle in the sun. If it's the sun, they're gonna burn.
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If they're not invited in a house, they're not gonna
go in. They don't like garlic. If you have silver,
they're not gonna attack you. Credit.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I give credit to Ryan Kugler for having.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
He probably made the rules, so I'll give him credits together.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, it's this is like a This is a clear
credit to Ryan Cougler for making this movie.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
When life gives you plemings, you make plemonade. You said,
I can't give it to the old blues singer, So.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I don't think you can give it to Dell, right, No,
I think he's in it too much. That's just my opinion.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I enjoyed him, all right.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I am giving it goo to Hailey Steinfeld is married.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
He's in it as much as him.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
She's in the third act more, but she's not really
in the movie that much until then she gets She's
in like two scenes before the third act and both
are tour de forces, and then in the third act
gup once she comes back into the little what do
they call it, the juke. There she delivers two lines
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of dialogue that I'm gonna be thinking about for years,
for years. She brought, she kicked this movie up to
another level. Without her, this movie is still really good,
but it's missing something. Her performance was fucking great.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Excite bike Man, pants tan City. What got you going? Mac?
And we know the answer.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Hailey Steinfeld. I'll tell you that. When she says want some,
I was like, oh dude, and she has a line
about Robin trains and we'll get it too that in
a second, I was like, that is a fucking incredible
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The fact that Kugler wrote that this movie, by the way,
we have this is a perfect time to talk about it.
Excited byke Mania pants tense City. This movie is horny
as fuck. This movie is sexy. I Ryan Kugler, I
fucking you, dog, you you you went out of your
way to put in a couple of scenes in this
movie that were full pants tense City. And credit to you,
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my man.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
And also, it's sexy, no nudity.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
No nudy. Yeah you're right, and it's still uber sexy.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
It's horny as f and sweaty. Well yeah, you're sweat
till you stink, I want to taste you. For those
of you TARTI to the Mack and Goop party. We
rate everything on a forty hot Dog rating system. MAC.
I love the look of this movie. I love the
period piece. I love following around the twins, uh, Preacher Boy,
I love I like every character in this movie. They
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went and made it where you root for every character
in this movie, even the ones that when they first
jump in there, you're like, I hate this guy. Oh wait, no,
I don't. I actually like this guy.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
The vampires at one point there's a fucking musical song
and dance like in the Rain. Almost you're like, I
think I'm rudy for these guys now, Like I it
makes you question everything.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
There's also a scene in the juke where Preacher Boy
is playing, where I'm not I'm not sure if I
love every choice of like the musicians that pop up
in there.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
It's a transition.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
It's a cool idea, But I think the better shot
is the shot from the vampires after mine. I agree
that it looks awesome.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
That was really cool, where it like the walls had
been burnt down and they pulled back to the point
of view of the three Vampires.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
You mentioned that tracking shot that I also really enjoyed
Michael B. Jordan his charisma to be able to pull
off both of these characters, and I really fucking love
this movie. My issue is that I think there was
a clear point that they could have cut it and
had almost like this inception like ending of where preach
(28:13):
a boy is and that's you don't know what's gonna
happen next, Maybe he deal, let's talk about it after.
I don't want to get too far into the end,
but the ending does make me say like, oh there,
I think there was a tidy or not even a
tightier because like the end that they give you is
really satisfactory. It's just that I don't know if I
wanted that satisfactory ending thirty six or thirty seven hot Dogs.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Cool, cool, fucking motherfucker. So when I left the theater,
I was thinking thirty six Hot Dogs like good, borderline,
great movie, a movie that I've been thinking about and
telling people to watch. That's what we're talking about here,
Like I want people to see this movie because I
think it's a really interesting and deep conversation you can
have about this movie. I do have some caveats in
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there though caveatsbats. I was a little distracted at first
with the two Michael Bees. Took a little use, a
little time to get used to it, got over it
when they I liked them. They separated them so I
didn't have to look it to on screen at the
same time and like look to see if like where
they cut it and where a body double? Is my
main gripe here though, goo is we don't get into it.
(29:21):
We don't. We don't even sniff or get introduced or
think about vampires until like forty five minutes into this movie,
and you just have Remick being chased by Native Americans
into a house, and You're like, I knew we were
getting vampires, but I'm like, this is how we're doing it.
It's like a it's like a random outbreak, and like,
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why are the Native Americans even introduced into this movie? Ultimately?
And I supposed it all over one day, so you
can sort of excuse where they go and like why
they don't do a certain thing or pop up here
or there. I just feel like we needed a little
bit more of a background of a build up for
rem who's our main villain here, or like an earlier
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infusion of vampires into this story, or some drops while
we were in that town, right, someone in the shadows
or something like that. And I also think making Remick
slightly more sympathetic would have bumped up the climax of
this movie, which I loved. It was a great scene,
but you're not really rooting for Remick until that moment
(30:24):
because of what he's saying, and I wish we had
a little more sympathy on his end. It would have
made him a better villain. So I loved everything else
about this movie. I just that's my main gripe about
the story, and I think it's a legit gripe, where
like the vampire stuff feels uneven and like you just
maybe needed it spotted earlier or a couple more things
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maybe explained. I have this at thirty seven hot Dogs.
It's gone up definitively for me. The more I'm thinking
about it, and the more I'm thinking about how layered
this movie is and the themes that they're playing with
and the dialogue, it's just a c And I wouldn't
be surprised if this goes up to thirty eight by
the end of the year, Like that's the type of
move we're talking about. It's a movie you'll be thinking
about all year. It's a movie you're gonna want your
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friends to see so that you can talk to them
about it. It's a great movie.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Also, before we get to the spoilers, I love the
conclusion for like the conclusion to each story for both
Michael B. Jordan's.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
It was fitting, really fitting for both characters. But to
your point, they do sort of tie things up in
a nice, neat little bow. And did we need that?
I don't know. I think, I like, I do. I
did like it, But did it make the movie better?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Spoiler spoiler spoiler, spoiler spoiler, spoiler, spoiler, spoiler spoiler. We
have one Michael B. Jordan that is able to die
and go on to the afterlife with smoke smoke okay uh,
with his child who passed and with what's her name?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Annie?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Annie her name? And then we have the other Michael B.
Jordan to stack who was able to live his life
and move on to a time when his love with
Hailey Steinfeld's character would be more accepted.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah. So the the mid credit or epilogue, whatever you
want to call it, is a sixty year time jump
and we see Preacher Boy has opened up his own
blues club in Chicago, so homage to Smoke and Stack,
and he calls it Pearlins, which is like one night
only and that man got krypt in and we'll never
forget that woman ever, and he's playing the blues up there,
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and then at the end of the night, Stack and
Mary have to be invited into the joint. They have
this conversation that cuts back to the moment where Smoke,
where you thought Smoke had killed Stack, turns out that
didn't happen. Obviously. We're seeing him here and he says,
and this was a little corny, He's like, I'm gonna
let you live as long as you don't like touch
Preacher Boy. Don't ever affect Preacher Boy. Let that man
(32:50):
live his life. And it's just like him and Mary
being cool as fuck in nineteen ninety two, where in
ninety shit like they're like, we bought all your albums.
We kind of watched you from afar, Like it was
cool to see that Stack and Mary had like lived
on and like they're still doing their thing. I don't
know if I needed them to come back together with
Preacher Boys.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
So I'm not critiquing this amazing movie, but I think
it would have been enough if they said, are we
allowed to invite these people in? He says yes, but
kind of cautiously, and then you just see them either
walk to the door or walk in the door, and
that's it. So you know that they're still around. You
know that they've lived together and had their life together,
(33:29):
and maybe Preacher Boy has also been dealing with them
for the sixty years since, but we don't know this,
like we have to fill in the gaps.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah, and I agree with a lot of what you're saying,
And this is why I'm having trouble deciding whether I
liked this mid credit epilogue type of thing because there
was a couple I What I did love is seeing
the fact that Stack and Mary, who were like soulmates,
got to live their lives.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Which all you had to do was to see them
though you didn't need the conversation out.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
And you almost didn't need to see them if if
it was just like, hey, we have two people at
the door then and know if they can come in.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
And now that's it.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
But I think I think that would have been would
have been cool. But then when they were leaving. I
fucking loved the acknowledgement, Preacher Boy says to Stack. He
was like, hey, when you said like this was the
best day of my life or that one that night
was the best night of my life, were you like
being truthful? And they're like, yeah, that was like the
last time we were truly free for that one night.
(34:26):
And like I thought that line of dialogue hit and
that was cool and that was cool to have like
that that conversation happened. But I didn't love the like
they sat down chumped it up for a second like
that I didn't love. I did love that Stack and
Mary like that love last forever, and I loved that
the acknowledgment of like the music and the blues or
when they were truly free. That was like they died
(34:46):
that night, but it was the best night of their life.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
And then also with Smoke's death, While yeah, it's always
cool to get that Tarantino shootout at the end, I
had almost like so when Preacher Boy goes back to
the ch I kind of said to myself, oh, I
bet Smoke is gonna deal with the Ku Klux Klan now,
like off on his own and like I said it
in my head and just said, okay, we'll just move
(35:10):
on from this. But then they showed it.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Shout Out the Strangers one of my all time favorite
horror movies. They open and close the movie the same
way they do here. The opening of that movie is
the children walking down the street and the strangers are
pulled over and they get the fucking the religious pamphlets
and then they walk up to the house see it,
and it cuts back. Same sort of thing here we
cut It opens with Sammy preacher boy, pulling up to
(35:34):
the church, and we cut back to that. So I
do like that. So getting to Smoke's death, I absolutely
loved the climax of this movie Goo with Remick having
Sammy like in the Shallows, getting ready to end him.
The dialogue there between the two characters is fucking incredible.
(35:55):
And then when Sammy starts reciting the Ae Father and
Remick is also saying it, and he's like, these words
aren't gonna save you. They don't belong to you. They
are forced on you the same way they were forced
on me when my people got you know, taken over.
Like that is just such brilliant writing and moment like
these these words might comfort you, but they're not gonna
(36:16):
save you. Like these words are just another form of repression.
You're being repressed right now for racial reasons, but like
religion is the same shit. Like that's what Remick is
hammering home. And now you know the oppressed, the oppressed
becomes the oppressor. So not that Remi's right, but like
what he's saying is right. And I really loved that that,
(36:36):
Like the dynamic there, the lines, the things they're connecting
there was fucking great. And then Smoke saved Sammy in
a fantastic way, and like then the sun comes out
and they all get burnt up, and you think they're
all dead until you see Stack and Mary in the
post credit, and then you get like that what final
ten minutes where Smoke is preparing for the clan members
(36:59):
to come that next morning, and it's great. He fucking
demolishes him in a fantastic Tarantino style like shootout, and
then I did It was a beautiful scene where he's
sitting there because he's mortally wounded too, and he looks
to the right and he sees Annie who died the
night before, and their dead son or daughter.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
I forget who but he also had to kill her.
He had to free her spirit when she became a vampire.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Right and then like they see the like that was
a really cool scene.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
It was. I just wasn't sure if I needed that
scene though.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Annie. He has a great line of dialogue though she
calls him by his real name, which I forget, and
she says put that out. I don't want any smoke
on her saying I don't want first of all, the smoke,
but like, I don't want the character of smoke in
the afterlife. I want the real youth. That was a
great line of dialogue too. It was a really cool death,
(37:53):
great way.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
My wife said the same thing to me, but she
said goo, I was holding slime at the time.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yes. So, getting back to your overarching point about things
being kind of tied up in a nice, neat little knot,
I think there's some people that are gonna be really
satisfied by that. How like the characters we thought were super.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Cool satisfactors through the Roof, I just don't I also think.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
There are people more Cinophiles that are going to be
like for the story, it would have been better if
they cut it off here.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Because I think it would have been its best ending
with Preacher Boy's father saying put that guitar down, and
then it just cuts to him on the road holding
it the guitar and that's it.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yeah, And I liked and I love because and it
goes back to his conversation with Stack in the future.
He chooses music and the blues over the religion because
the music and the blues is when he's truly free.
It's truly when he's himself and he like he is
bringing up those souls and everything from the.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
But you could have just you didn't need that conversation.
You could have just no, I had movie get that.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
I get that, and that's where and that's where I
feel like, you know, maybe you're you're you're closer to
forty hot Dogs if there's a little more of that
inceptioning stuff that you're talking about there. But like, the
music is fucking fantastic, dude. Like the soundtrack and like,
what is it Lugwood Gordonson who did the score and
the music for this movie. Fucking phenomenal dude, Like one
of the most memorable soundtracks and scores in a while.
(39:23):
And like the music is a character in this movie.
The setting, the time, the place, to character. Like, this
movie just does everything well. It does everything well.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I also loved when Smoke revealed that the guitar was
their fathers. Yeah that was great, and that Sack had
lied about where they got it from.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yeah, yeah, that was good. And there was like so
that's the other thing too, Like we don't get much
about their background, Like they allude to fighting in World
War One, you know, they left, go to Chicago, come back.
We don't get like any background there. We don't get
the I think what we needed was some vampire background.
So that's where I have like some.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
We also like we don't truly know what they did
to get their money.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
It's just right right, yeah, Rob the Irish and the
Italians in Chicago. Like, and that's where at two hours
and seventeen minutes, I know this is technically a long movie,
but it feels like we needed like another ten minutes
of that stuff and maybe five minutes less on the.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Back, I would have preferred that stuff over the satisfactory ending.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yeah. I get that. I get that, And and I
don't know if I'm quite as far they're saying, I
don't know if I like I did like a lot
of what we got at the end. But I agree,
like with with your sentiment there, but like that's what
we're talking about, Like we're nitpicking because it's a great movie.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
We should have said this at the beginning, we recommend
this movie.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
So like I feel like I'm having a thirty seven
hot dogs and I'm like, as I'm talking about, maybe
it is thirty eight. Like it's not a forty hot
dog movie. Don't get me wrong, It's not gonna it's
not gonna get to that pantheon, but it is one
of the best movies of the year, and it is
gonna be a movie you think about all year.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Are there any of your questions, cons and pros that
we did not get to.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Yeah, so we talked about the vampire stuff. Again, I
wanted early intro remic, being more sympathetic would have been better.
Oh yeah. Also, here's a big question for you. We
didn't talk about this. What did you think about Grace
and them setting up her daughter and that being the
reason for them to yell for the vampire. They they
did need a reason. I don't know. That's why I'm like,
I don't know if I loved it, but I don't
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know how you do it better than what they chose
to do it. They like intentionally set it up so
that she had the daughter to motivate her in that scene.
I get it. I don't know if I loved it,
But where the fuck did the Native Americans go?
Speaker 1 (41:34):
I was asking that the entire time, and I thought
at some point they were going to show up to
help the final two or three living people, or like.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
That morning when the clan arrived, like they roll up
on Michael as he's already like took taking them out,
Like it was just it was weird, like and that's it.
It goes back to like they're in the vampire introduction
scene and that scene feels really out of place because
they're there and the vampires there forty five minutes in
we never ever see them again, and like that's how
we get the vampire intro that. Like I didn't love that.
(42:04):
I really didn't love how the vampire stuff came into it,
and I didn't love how the Native Americans just never
came back.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Are there any of your pros that.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
There's also an actual post credit of the gentleman who
played Sammy Miles, Cat and katan On Isaay's name, uh
playing music for like a minute at the end, him singing, I.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Wish I stayed for that. I thought that singing in
the music in this was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
That man has an incredible voice. Incredible voice.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Can you recommend this to non horror people?
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Yeah, because it's not that scary. It's just it's an
element of it. It's more of a thriller than it
is like a horror like I. And there is some
blood in a little bit of gore, but it's not
over the top and I don't think it's something that
people wouldn't be able to stomach if you're not into that.
I think this is a movie you can recommend to everyone.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
And they're also not using the vampires as monsters as
much as they were using them to just get the
point across.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yeah, it's more of an allegory and it's and it's
more of a storytelling element than it is to scare people.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Let's get into Max Sack. Ma Sack could be anything.
It could be a boat and Mac. In the movie
that we just saw, Michael B. Jordan played not one
but two characters. I Am gonna run through the Mount
rushmore of I believe the greatest actor playing two characters
(43:30):
in a movie, maybe more than two characters in a movie.
Tell me if you believe Michael B. Jordan did a
better job than the actors that I read off.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Okay, fair enough, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Michael B. Jordan versus Jack Nicholson in Mars Attacks.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
I'll take Michael be here.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
He plays the president, he plays that other guy. You
don't like it.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
It might be one of Jack Nicholson's finest roles.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Actually, that's your weezer take, that's your the shining No
One flew over a Cuckoo's Nest, No Mars Attacks. Michael B.
Jordan versus Mike Myers in the Austin Powers trilogy.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
As much as I enjoy that, and as much as
I enjoy Eddie Murphy as I'm sure you're gonna bring
up in a second, don't you give me Michael B.
Give me Michael B.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Austin Powers, Doctor Evil, Fat Bastard, gold Member, give me
Michael B. I'm taking Austin Powers.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Fair enough.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Michael B. Jordan versus Eddie Murphy in all of his movies.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
I'll take Michael B.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Coming to America. He plays like five characters the clumps.
He's all of the clumps, not professor in Norbit. He's
both Norbert and resputant. Respuccha Respoocha, not resputing Rah Rah Resputin.
All right, how about this one then, Michael B. Jordan
versus Lindsey Lowe in The Parent Trap.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Now we're talking. Now we're talking here. This is a
real tough one. You got Lindsay Lohan playing American Lindsay Lohan,
and you have Lindsay Lohan playing British Lindsay Lohan.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
That was the joke that I made earlier, by the way, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yeah, I think I think you might go Lindsay Lohan here.
She really showed her acting chops with her British accent.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Is double Lindsay Lohan the greatest twin role of all time?
Speaker 2 (45:29):
It just might be.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
It just might be because also she was such an unknown
that you thought there actually were two of her.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
I thought there was two twins, much like the Olsen twins,
so just.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Had their movie It Takes Two, pretty much the exact
same movie.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Yeah. I thought there was two Lindsay Lohans for five
years until like early two thousands, when you figure out, oh,
it's just her.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
As a part of my childhood. We'd always go to
Maine every year. We still do this as a family,
and we would stay in a cottage that wouldn't have
any cable, but there'd be VCR so you'd spend a
lot of time watching tapes. We would. I remember one
year we just rotated it was It Takes Two and Grease?
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Is that why you hate Grease?
Speaker 1 (46:12):
And then we also had of vhs of things that
we recorded off the television, so we watched a lot
of There was an episode of Third Rock from the
Sun where they snuck into the super Bowl, so on
a loop it takes to Grease and the Third Rock
from the Sun where they snuck into the super Bowl
and Tommy was a baby.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Okay, all right, Wow.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
If I had won more, I can make a Mount Rushmore.
You know what's crazy is on Facebook and I keep
on these keep on popping up to me. Is so
there's the ai Mount rushmorees that people are making and
some people, too many people are putting five faces on
a rock.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Oh my god, so they're not even a war.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
That's very funny, but it makes me laugh every gold time.
And like there's one rule to them. Ount Rushmore four faces,
unless you're counting Bulk and Skull as one, which I am.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Yeah, I'll do that. I'll kay. Like, if you're gonna
put two Lindsay Lohans on there, they count as one.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
All right, Mac, Where can the folks find us?
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Teapublic dot com mer check us out. Next week we'll
do news dump and then is Revenge of the Sith. Oh,
it's right, so I'm sorry, Revenge of the Sith on Monday,
and then maybe in news dump at the end of
the week. But his thunderbolts out next week.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
Two weeks. I thought, but maybe you're right. It's on May,
isn't It is May?
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Next week when Thunderbolts is out, we'll talk about Thunderbolts.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Give me your your your your glass half full sort
of expectation for Thunderbolts.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
Like as a positive or a negative class.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Half full is a positive.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
Team dynamic.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Okay, I was expecting more like never mind.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
I thought we're back in the pyramid.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
It was a bad question. It was a worse answer.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
It's like that Ryan Coogler movie that's coming out.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
I meant, it's a good callback right there. I met like,
if this movie is gonna be good, how is it
gonna how is how is it gonna affect like the MCU.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
If it's gonna be good, it's gonna be on the
back of this team. The team dynamic will be what
makes it good, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Okay, fair enough, that's a fair answer. I think. I
think of this movie is gonna be good, it's because
Century is really cool and Century is gonna matter going forward.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
I think if it's bad, it's because Century is boring.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
That might be right too. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
So Tuesdays or Goose Days, I abuse kangaroos, Jimbarton.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Please flip the cassette over to side B to continue
the adventure. Now it's time for girls jumping on trampolines. Trimbopolines,
Aren't you gonna invite me in?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yuh? I'll tell you what. This movie has some incredible
lines of dialogue, most notably from a one Miss Hailey Steinfeld.
And I have been thinking about two lines of dialogue
for three days now. I don't know how long ago
I saw this movie, and typically goo right. Here's how
it goes when we watch in review movies. This is
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what happens for most people. You walk out of a theater,
you think it's this right, eight nine ten, in our case,
thirty six or seven or eight to nine forty, and
then after a couple of days goes down a dog
or two, or you're starting nitpicking it. I think just
the two lines of dialogue from Hailey Steinfeld has propped
this movie up. It might even be a dog higher
than what I felt like leaving the theater. I can't
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get it out of my head. I keep thinking about
this movie and then like those lines of dialogue, and
then I start thinking about more things about this movie.
This movie is not perfect, but it's fucking sticking with me.
Go it's sticking with me.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
But are you gonna invite people into your home now?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
If they're proposing to do what Hailey Steinfeld is. Yes,
she is more than welcome in vampire form or in
human form. I'm I'm a I'm of a mind that
makes some moogie. Let's say that one good? Three?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, just three, King of Queen MARYL.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Street Entertainment, Go and I'm Mac.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
And you might be saying to yourself for these two
the same person. Now we're different. We're Mac and Go.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
That's right, we are both wearing blue today. Though good
coordination on our end. We just we got our real
hive mind, like like this movie.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, like Michael A and B Jordan and all the vampiers.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yes, yes, yes, today we are discussing box office sensation
Sinners the latest, and some may varue the greatest Ryan
Kugler movie starring Michael B. Jordan. Good. Sinners is a
movie that when it was announced maybe the middle of
last year, everyone was like, oh, Okay Cougler Michael B.
(02:25):
Jordan in definitely and you're like, oh, it's like a
horror thriller set in the nineteen.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Phar so other horror mystique vampire and some of us said.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Huh, yeah, this is weird, and this movie is weird,
but I think we can now officially say that Ryan Kugler,
when given the keys to anything, he's gonna make that
bitch run like this. This is an original idea, original script.
It's not adapting anything straight from Ryan Kugler. I'm sure
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there were some influences, obviously. I don't know. Man, Ryan
Couger gets it. He can make movies.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
You know what it reminds me of it. I'm not
comparing it to these movies, but what I would compare
it to in its uniqueness and how it's doing on
Rotten Tomatoes and with its reception is get out and Crap.
I just had it in my head, the John Krasinski movie.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Oh well, you can't talk to anyone? The hell is
it called?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
That's what it's called. You can't talk to anyone.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
They silent, the monsters can hear. No, it's called short One.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
But it's a lot like that where it does so
much right. There's some stuff that you can nitpick, obviously,
but they're so unique and different that they really stand out.
Are you looking it up?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah? I'm look quiet.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Oh it's called shut up zip it. It's called zip
is Ziblah.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
It's called The Boss. Is it gonna get you? I
think that that's pretty pretty more so with Get Out,
I feel like too, in that it's a movie that
sits with you for a little bit and you think
about it and like, by the end of the year
you might like it more than you do now. At
least that's where I'm starting to trend now that I'm
a couple.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Of days truly fringe horror, like really not very like
this could.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Have been a great movie without the horror, and I
think there's even and we'll get into it a little bit.
The horror isn't shoehorned in, but I feel like it
either could have come in earlier or remove it all
together and we still got it like a great movie.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
But the horror adds a little commentary at the end.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yes, for sure, there's I just the horror element might
be my least favorite part of the movie, if that
makes sense. The more it complicates things a little bit,
and I have some critiques there, but it is like,
as far as vampire movies go, there's not many better, right,
Like vampire movies can be kind of two tongue in
cheek or b movie like this like takes them seriously
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and like, I don't know, it's it's I have a
hard time like naming a better Van Empire movie.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You know, I'm sure there's a couple, but I've never
seen another vampire movie. This's my first vampire movie. What
I love about the way they treat the vampires in
this movie, which also I wouldn't have minded if in
the trailers there was never a mention of vampires and
then forty five minutes in you're like, what the fuck
is going on? But also I will say this, they
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respect the rules of vampires in this movie better than
maybe anything in a very long time.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Well, right, so there's two basic rules with vampires, and
they really just adhere to those two. They don't complicate it,
they don't get too much into.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Well there's more than just two, but yes, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Well they really it's like sunlight kills them and you
have to invite them in that.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Also, wooden steaks, garlic, they have a bunch of other
stuff in there.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, you're right, you're right, Actually, yeah, true, Yeah, I don't.
All right, let's let's get into it. Sinners made forty
eight million on its opening weekend. Huge opening for a
movie that's you know, not a well known, not a
known ip whatsoever, you know, brand new fucking idea from
the mind of Ryan Coogler. It's up to seventy one
million domestic after a week and a half, eighty seven
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million worldwide. It's gonna make a ton of money again
this weekend. It's holding strong. It's had one of the
best strongest releases post Easter in a long long time.
It is a rated R action, drama, horror and thriller
and goo. Why this movie is so good is the
drama element the characters that they give you in the relationships,
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the way these characters are connected is the best part
of this movie. And the other things that get brought
in heighten those things. But the drama element in the
relationship between characters here is why this movie kicks ass.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I actually love the little bit of humor that is
tossed in there because it feels so natural. And I
do think that has a lot to do with the
charisma of two Michael B.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Jordan's Yeah, were you distracted by two Michael BEA's at all?
I was distracted a.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Little bit because they weren't different enough, like they had
like minor differences. Usually when you see two of the
same actor, like say if they're playing twins. One of
them has a British accent, you know which ones which?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, I think they even had the same facial hair here,
so there was like no reason.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
That's a cool facial hair though, like that that's of
the time. By the way, period piece. The look of
this movie, it's fucking beautiful. It is a beautiful movie,
and they go out of their way to like really
show the landscape and how big the South is the sky,
which does play into stuff later.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I think it's one of those movies where the town,
the setting, the times becomes a character in and of itself. Right,
we're talking early nineteen thirties in the Deep South, where
there's obviously like it's there's deep racism there, you know,
the clans involved a little bit. I think it's was
it Clarksville, Mississippi something like that.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
It's in and around Mississippi.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, it plays a big part in this movie and
becomes a character. And Cougar did an incredible job setting
that scene that time. Like there's a there's a shot
in this movie where smoking stack or downtown at this
Mississippi thing and like, oh, I need a sign, and
then uh, the Chinese family who is accepted in both worlds,
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the black community and the white community. The daughter walks
across the street to the white side, and it's a
tracking shot across the street, which I loved into the
white like he just like the small little things like that.
It's a it's like an eight minute tracking shot, but
it sets like the whole scene, and it gets you
to understand like the gravity of what's going on in
the time and place.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Accepted as in like they're allowed to sell people stuff
like I would assume that if you're looking in the
communities of both, they're probably not accepted in either.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
You're right, they're they're they're outliers in both, kind of
pariahs in both, I suppose, but they're according to the whites,
higher than the black people. And then the black people
they're not white, so they they're able to bounce around
in both worlds. Good. This movie has a run time
of one hundred and thirty seven one hundred and thirty
seven minutes, two outs and seventeen minutes. I almost needed
like a good five or tenants ten minutes more on
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some remic background, so a little more vampire background, a
little bit an earlier introduction, so that his character had
a little more gravity, was a little more sympathetic because
by the end you're actually really you really like this character,
and you're like, well, I wish I got a little
more backstory here.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Or even some vampire foreshadowing in the first third of
the movie, just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
We needed a little bit of it, because when he's introduced,
it's kind of out of fucking nowhere. Like it. It
was mildly annoying because you go into this knowing it's
a vampire movie and you don't see any vamps until yeah,
probably the beginning of the second act, and ultimately that's okay.
But because the villain Remiic played by Jack O'Connell, is
so good and there's so many parallels being drawn between
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what that experience is and what like the black experiences
in the South in the nineteen thirties, you kind of
wish to get a little more background there, and you
never get it. You just have some lines of dialogue
from him.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
But also, if he wasn't there, if this wasn't a
vampire movie and it was just about two brothers running
a nightclub and then having to deal with some aftermath
after about maybe not making enough money or dealing with
the people that sold him the barn like that also
would have been a very interesting movie.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I totally agree. And I wonder, I wonder at what
point did this become a vampire movie or was it
always a vampire movie? Like was did Coogler have this
idea to tell this story about black people in the
south of the thirties and draw parallels with like the
whole vampire religion type of thing. And that's the other thing.
There's a huge religious undertone to this and questioning religion
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and how it basically is a tool to oppress people and.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Has been questing the power of music as well.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Right, And that's a genius part of this script as well,
is it really makes you question, if you haven't already
you know some why religion is the way it is,
how it came to be, and why it's used the
way it is. Goo on Rotten Tomatoes, this movie has
ninety eight percent from the critics ninety seven percent from
the audience on Metacritic in eighty four so by the
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end of the year this is still going to be
one of the best movies of the year by those metrics.
I'm sure we'll still be talking about this movie by
the end of the year. And of course this is
written and directed by Ryan Couger. We've mentioned him a
couple of times already. You would know Couglar from Fruitvale Station.
That was his debut. That's where him and Michael B.
Jordan first got together. It was twenty thirteen. Creed was
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the next effort, which was I think once Creed happened,
because no one wanted a new Rocky movie, right, no
one wanted to dabble in that universe. Again, Creed happens,
and you're like, oh, I guess we can make more
Rocky movies Michael Jordan and Ryan Couger. Yeah, right, right,
and I would say yes. And then of course he
did Black Panther in Wakanda Forever. So so far that's one, two, three, four,
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This is his fifth movie. I'd say he's five for five.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Oh, Roddy Te's had a chart up of all of
his movies. I think he's six for six. You might
be missing one, but he's either high eighties or nineties
and everything.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, so clearly once again, like hand him the keys
to whatever, you know, key to the city, let him
do whatever the.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Hell whiles I believe is his next thing, right.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Well not yeah, they've been talking about it. What's officially announced,
at least on IMDb is he has Isaah Wakonda coming
up I think at the end of this year, which
is in the MCU. And then something called Wrong Answer,
and the synopsis for that is a math teacher in
Atlanta is scandalized when he looks to get funding for
his school by altering his students' test scores. So that
seems to harken back to the fruit Vale roots because
(12:43):
Fruit Veil I think was based on a true story.
That seems like it's based on a true story.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I thought it was about every time I ask you
a question.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Michael B. Jordan already signed on for Wrong Answer too,
so yeah, I'm sure we'll be looking for.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
That many others. Michael B.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Jordan's I Think Just Be A is not going to
be in that synopsis. Goo for sinners trying to leave
their troubled lives behind, twin brothers return to their hometown
to start again, only to discover that an even greater
evil is waiting to welcome them back. This stars Miles
Catan Caton as Sammy Moore slash Preacher boy one second.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So first off, he's amazing in.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
This his first movie ever.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
He does the singing in this correct that is actually
really enjoy his singing voice.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Hell of a voice.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
But I'll also say, and it's not the fault of
the movie, but whenever I hear preacher Boy, I think
of paper Boy and then I start singing that in
my head.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Enough. Jack O'Connell as Remick, he is the main vampire,
the main villain. I guess Michael B. Jordan as both
Smoke and Stack, the twin brothers that we've been talking about. Goo,
your hand is raised again.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
In the movie. Now I could tell them at part
because one had a red suit one did not. But also,
did you know their names throughout the movie?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Once they attached them to their loved ones, then I
had it figured out. Okay, And they do separate them
like at the beginning of or towards the end of
that first act too, so you're kind of feeling it out.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
But a funny though if they called each other by
the wrong name a lot, because that would have just
confused everyone, but no one would have wanted to question it.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
What what is cool? Smoker Stack?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
The name Stack?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I think smoke smokes cooler.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Okay, so we just figured it out. I'm Stack, You're smoke.
All right, sounds I'm thinking like stacking papers.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Oh but huh so all right, we'll get back to that.
What would you rather be? We'll ask that question.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Who would I rather be?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Smoke or Stack?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
You'll have to tell me at the end which ones?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Which strong cough I have there. David Maldonado as Hogwood,
he's the guy that sells the property to smoke Stack.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I also want that name, though.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Hogwood, you want to be Stack, Hogwood, Hogwood, Stack, Hogwood.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Helena Who as Lisa Chow. She is the Chinese wife
and mother. Uh just yao. Apparently this gentleman just goes
by Yao. As Bo Chow, he was great. He's the
father husband, del Ray, Lindo has Delta Slim. Was awesome.
Every line of dialogue he.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Said was Was he in too much of the movie
to give him plemonade?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yeah, I'd say so. Yeah, he's fully in two thirds
of the movie.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
But look at the billing though, look how far down
he is.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I know.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
But all right, Credit Union, Max, Credit Union.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
It is a real group of characters here, Jamie Lawson
as Pearline. She was great too. You would know her
as Bella Reale from the Batman Universe. She plays a
nice role in this Goo. Hailey Steinfeld is Mary. You
want to talk plemonade. There's your fucking plemonade.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Right, he's in't too much of the movie. No, she's not,
And she's like second billing. If you look at the posters,
she's on the poster, you can't give her.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
She's second billing. But she only has what like eleven manes.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
No, you may plemonade in your pants when you saw her,
but come on, yeah, that's what you did.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
This is a pe program here. Uh Goo Omar Betson
Miller as Cornbread. You might remember him from eight mile
I Love when this dude pops up.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
He's also on what was the Rock?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
It goes in the Chittn' tickey, don't freaking goes Done Done,
Dune freaking goes.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
What was that show with the Rock and Rob Kaudrey
where they played agents. It wasn't Entourage, but it was
Football Ballers.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah, yeah, Ballers on HBO. There you go. Uh one
Meme Masaku as Annie. This is Smoke's love interest. Mary
is stacked love interest. Uh, you would know her as
I wish you'd be fifteen in the Marvel universe in the.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
MCU oh, I didn't even realize that.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, that's her.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
And then also she you know, also some I wouldn't
say voodoo people accuse her of you of voodoo. In
the movie, she is like loosely aware of She's the
one that everyone know what the rules are. She's the
Jimmie Kennedy of the movie.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah. Uh. We also get Buddy Guy as old Sammywards
the end of the movie noted blues Legend. That was great,
and then a couple other characters here. Saw Williams as
Jedi Dier. That's Preacher Boy's father the Preacher Andreine Warren
Hummon is Ruthie Tanaje l Jackson's Beatrice. Sam Malone is Terry.
I put him in here because his one scene is
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when he's robbing the truck and he shot in the
leg Are you great fucking scene? And then the other
two main vampires we meet it at some point. The
first two that get turned are Peter Dromanus as Bert
and Lola Kirk as Joan, and they were perfect at
like playing second fiddle as well. The casting of this
movie was a plus. They fucking absolutely nailed that.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Oh, the casting, the like so much of this movie.
I think you got a Cinema score of like an a.
So much of this movie and the feel of this
movie is a plus.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
It feels like a movie that did everything right and
so the only real things you can nitpick or or
script decisions. And I think that's sort of where I'm at, Like,
I have no gripes about anything this movie other than
like when things take place in the story in something
they decided to do or not do. So it's a
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really hard movie to criticize in that way, and I
think that's why you're seeing such high scores, because they
nail every aspect of what makes a movie good.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Well, I think that it does lack in the horror department,
but I'm not necessarily looking for a truly spooky scary
movie here.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
No, I agree, And I think if someone came into
this wanting full vampire movies, you might be not a
little disappointed.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, if you're going into this looking for the full vampire,
gore zombie monster movie, it ain't that yet.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah. No, I agree, I agree, and go another thing
that I think was this movie's strong point is it
essentially takes place over one day. You have like a
final fifteen minutes or so that is not taking place
that day, but the core of the movie. This, the
plot of this movie takes place one day. And I
love that. It's just like you're in and you're out.
It helps with the pacing. Even though it's a two
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hour and seventeen minute movie, it didn't feel long. He
almost needed a little bit more. Like I said, the
music and the scores unreal and music is such a
central part of this more movie and storytelling, and they
use it in fantastical ways. There's a couple truly great
musical scenes here. I just I have like some questions
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and maybe a couple cons.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
We can do that in spoilers, though, because I think
we can dive a little bit deeper. Let's do the
gauntlet real quick. I actually added one if you don't mind,
but okay, quite along with me. Let's go with fun factor.
And I thought it was the first even before we
got to the vampires. I thought that of Preacher Boy
with his cousins and going to set up their day,
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I thought that was wildly fun.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, and that's like if when you really nail a
setting in a period piece, it becomes fun because it's
like it's history and you're like, oh, this is what
it was like that, and you're like gripped by everything
on the screen. And that's why I like, I'm having
a heart, Like when I'm thinking about this movie in
retrospect a couple of days removed, like, man, they did
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that well, they did this well, they nailed that. I'm like,
this movie might be going up on the dog scale,
Like it's just it's a very fun movie, setting, characters, music,
Like it's a very fun movie.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Also, as the movie goes along, you find out a
little bit more each minute about smoke Stack and preach
a boy and their family.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Right, and and that's so maybe if this took place
over a week instead of a day, you would have
gotten more of that. I don't know if it's better,
but I like how. I like how you get the tidbits,
you know, But.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I also don't need perfect bows tied on everything. I
like some things left to not the imagination. But like
you can interpret it different ways.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
And there's something to be said about like leaving the
theater wanting more of this in that you know.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
So I'm glad that you brought that up, satisfactor. I
think this movie does an amazing job of giving you
a very satisfying ending, but I'm not sure if I
wanted that.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I'm I'm somewhere in and around there with you. It
walks a fine line at the end that I think
I liked, but I don't know if I liked, And
I'm sure as we have this conversation, I'll make my
mind up on that. There is a very satisfying Tarantino
like conclusion to our main story. And then there's like
(21:31):
a epilogue kind of mid credit scene that continues the
story and like it gives you a definitive answer to
a certain question. And I don't know if it needed that.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I'm gonna tip my hand. I didn't care for it.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Okay, all right, that's fair, And.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
The Tarantino ending almost makes it feel like that was
the ending of a movie that say, if they didn't
have the vampires, that would be the conclusion.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, it was interesting and that part was satisfying, but
it's not the actual end of the movie, which is
why it's like, okay, And again, I wonder if when
when Koogler was writing the script, like when he decided
to put vampires in this movie. You know, I don't
know if it was something that he had from the
beginning or not. And the movie doesn't.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Tell you that or not borometer not boring.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It's not a boring movie because even.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
The stuff that I and I'm not even saying I
don't like it. I just think I would have liked
the end to be a different spot. But that stuff
isn't boring. It's interesting. I'm just not sure if I
like it.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, and even though it takes a little bit to
get into the vampire element of this movie, because they
nailed like the time and place of nineteen thirty South,
like that stuff is not born.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
I had the most fun in the setup.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, Yeah, agreed, Halloween.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Will this movie wane over time?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
No?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I think that this will be more appreciated over time.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, I agree, And I think I already appreciate it
more than I did when I left the theater. I
don't know if it's gonna be like in our top
four by years end. I have a feeling like it's
probably just gonna miss out, but it'll be in the conversation,
It'll be at the very least like horrible mention for
a best movie of the year.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Hawk water World. It's better than water World for sure. Spooky, scary,
did you jump at all?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
No, So it's not going back to your point about
horror movies. It's not really a great horror movie, right.
But also like vampire stuff never really leads to great
horror movies either. You know, like I, you're never truly
scared by vampires, right, it's just they are what.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Even the vampires in this I wasn't afraid of the vampires.
I found like like I did even find them eerie.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
They were the only like eerie shot. Oh, there's a
couple scenes actually, when Cornbread goes out to take a piss,
when you hear the voices, that was cool and like spooky.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
And then there's one musical thing. There's a musical thing
going on.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah. Then when Mary goes out to confront them and
she turns and you see remick like float dish. Pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
No, I didn't like that. That's how you vampires do.
You don't know what vampires do. I don't max credit Union.
I want to give credit to the people that decided
that we're gonna play by the normal rules of vampires.
We're not gonna create our own rules. They're not gonna
sparkle in the sun. If it's the sun, they're gonna burn.
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If they're not invited in a house, they're not gonna
go in. They don't like garlic. If you have silver,
they're not gonna attack you. Credit.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I give credit to Ryan Kugler for having.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
He probably made the rules, so I'll give him credits together.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, it's this is like a This is a clear
credit to Ryan Cougler for making this movie.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
When life gives you plemings, you make plemonade. You said,
I can't give it to the old blues singer, So.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I don't think you can give it to Dell, right, No,
I think he's in it too much. That's just my opinion.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I enjoyed him, all right.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I am giving it goo to Hailey Steinfeld is married.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
He's in it as much as him.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
She's in the third act more, but she's not really
in the movie that much until then she gets She's
in like two scenes before the third act and both
are tour de forces, and then in the third act
gup once she comes back into the little what do
they call it, the juke. There she delivers two lines
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of dialogue that I'm gonna be thinking about for years,
for years. She brought, she kicked this movie up to
another level. Without her, this movie is still really good,
but it's missing something. Her performance was fucking great.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Excite bike Man, pants tan City. What got you going? Mac?
And we know the answer.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Hailey Steinfeld. I'll tell you that. When she says want some,
I was like, oh dude, and she has a line
about Robin trains and we'll get it too that in
a second, I was like, that is a fucking incredible
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The fact that Kugler wrote that this movie, by the way,
we have this is a perfect time to talk about it.
Excited byke Mania pants tense City. This movie is horny
as fuck. This movie is sexy. I Ryan Kugler, I
fucking you, dog, you you you went out of your
way to put in a couple of scenes in this
movie that were full pants tense City. And credit to you,
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my man.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
And also, it's sexy, no nudity.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
No nudy. Yeah you're right, and it's still uber sexy.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
It's horny as f and sweaty. Well yeah, you're sweat
till you stink, I want to taste you. For those
of you TARTI to the Mack and Goop party. We
rate everything on a forty hot Dog rating system. MAC.
I love the look of this movie. I love the
period piece. I love following around the twins, uh, Preacher Boy,
I love I like every character in this movie. They
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went and made it where you root for every character
in this movie, even the ones that when they first
jump in there, you're like, I hate this guy. Oh wait, no,
I don't. I actually like this guy.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
The vampires at one point there's a fucking musical song
and dance like in the Rain. Almost you're like, I
think I'm rudy for these guys now, Like I it
makes you question everything.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
There's also a scene in the juke where Preacher Boy
is playing, where I'm not I'm not sure if I
love every choice of like the musicians that pop up
in there.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
It's a transition.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
It's a cool idea, But I think the better shot
is the shot from the vampires after mine. I agree
that it looks awesome.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
That was really cool, where it like the walls had
been burnt down and they pulled back to the point
of view of the three Vampires.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
You mentioned that tracking shot that I also really enjoyed
Michael B. Jordan his charisma to be able to pull
off both of these characters, and I really fucking love
this movie. My issue is that I think there was
a clear point that they could have cut it and
had almost like this inception like ending of where preach
(28:13):
a boy is and that's you don't know what's gonna
happen next, Maybe he deal, let's talk about it after.
I don't want to get too far into the end,
but the ending does make me say like, oh there,
I think there was a tidy or not even a
tightier because like the end that they give you is
really satisfactory. It's just that I don't know if I
wanted that satisfactory ending thirty six or thirty seven hot Dogs.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Cool, cool, fucking motherfucker. So when I left the theater,
I was thinking thirty six Hot Dogs like good, borderline,
great movie, a movie that I've been thinking about and
telling people to watch. That's what we're talking about here,
Like I want people to see this movie because I
think it's a really interesting and deep conversation you can
have about this movie. I do have some caveats in
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there though caveatsbats. I was a little distracted at first
with the two Michael Bees. Took a little use, a
little time to get used to it, got over it
when they I liked them. They separated them so I
didn't have to look it to on screen at the
same time and like look to see if like where
they cut it and where a body double? Is my
main gripe here though, goo is we don't get into it.
(29:21):
We don't. We don't even sniff or get introduced or
think about vampires until like forty five minutes into this movie,
and you just have Remick being chased by Native Americans
into a house, and You're like, I knew we were
getting vampires, but I'm like, this is how we're doing it.
It's like a it's like a random outbreak, and like,
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why are the Native Americans even introduced into this movie? Ultimately?
And I supposed it all over one day, so you
can sort of excuse where they go and like why
they don't do a certain thing or pop up here
or there. I just feel like we needed a little
bit more of a background of a build up for
rem who's our main villain here, or like an earlier
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infusion of vampires into this story, or some drops while
we were in that town, right, someone in the shadows
or something like that. And I also think making Remick
slightly more sympathetic would have bumped up the climax of
this movie, which I loved. It was a great scene,
but you're not really rooting for Remick until that moment
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because of what he's saying, and I wish we had
a little more sympathy on his end. It would have
made him a better villain. So I loved everything else
about this movie. I just that's my main gripe about
the story, and I think it's a legit gripe, where
like the vampire stuff feels uneven and like you just
maybe needed it spotted earlier or a couple more things
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maybe explained. I have this at thirty seven hot Dogs.
It's gone up definitively for me. The more I'm thinking
about it, and the more I'm thinking about how layered
this movie is and the themes that they're playing with
and the dialogue, it's just a c And I wouldn't
be surprised if this goes up to thirty eight by
the end of the year, Like that's the type of
move we're talking about. It's a movie you'll be thinking
about all year. It's a movie you're gonna want your
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friends to see so that you can talk to them
about it. It's a great movie.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Also, before we get to the spoilers, I love the
conclusion for like the conclusion to each story for both
Michael B. Jordan's.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
It was fitting, really fitting for both characters. But to
your point, they do sort of tie things up in
a nice, neat little bow. And did we need that?
I don't know. I think, I like, I do. I
did like it, But did it make the movie better?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Spoiler spoiler spoiler, spoiler spoiler, spoiler, spoiler, spoiler spoiler. We
have one Michael B. Jordan that is able to die
and go on to the afterlife with smoke smoke okay uh,
with his child who passed and with what's her name?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Annie?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Annie her name? And then we have the other Michael B.
Jordan to stack who was able to live his life
and move on to a time when his love with
Hailey Steinfeld's character would be more accepted.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah. So the the mid credit or epilogue, whatever you
want to call it, is a sixty year time jump
and we see Preacher Boy has opened up his own
blues club in Chicago, so homage to Smoke and Stack,
and he calls it Pearlins, which is like one night
only and that man got krypt in and we'll never
forget that woman ever, and he's playing the blues up there,
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and then at the end of the night, Stack and
Mary have to be invited into the joint. They have
this conversation that cuts back to the moment where Smoke,
where you thought Smoke had killed Stack, turns out that
didn't happen. Obviously. We're seeing him here and he says,
and this was a little corny, He's like, I'm gonna
let you live as long as you don't like touch
Preacher Boy. Don't ever affect Preacher Boy. Let that man
(32:50):
live his life. And it's just like him and Mary
being cool as fuck in nineteen ninety two, where in
ninety shit like they're like, we bought all your albums.
We kind of watched you from afar, Like it was
cool to see that Stack and Mary had like lived
on and like they're still doing their thing. I don't
know if I needed them to come back together with
Preacher Boys.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
So I'm not critiquing this amazing movie, but I think
it would have been enough if they said, are we
allowed to invite these people in? He says yes, but
kind of cautiously, and then you just see them either
walk to the door or walk in the door, and
that's it. So you know that they're still around. You
know that they've lived together and had their life together,
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and maybe Preacher Boy has also been dealing with them
for the sixty years since, but we don't know this,
like we have to fill in the gaps.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah, and I agree with a lot of what you're saying,
And this is why I'm having trouble deciding whether I
liked this mid credit epilogue type of thing because there
was a couple I What I did love is seeing
the fact that Stack and Mary, who were like soulmates,
got to live their lives.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Which all you had to do was to see them
though you didn't need the conversation out.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
And you almost didn't need to see them if if
it was just like, hey, we have two people at
the door then and know if they can come in.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
And now that's it.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
But I think I think that would have been would
have been cool. But then when they were leaving. I
fucking loved the acknowledgement, Preacher Boy says to Stack. He
was like, hey, when you said like this was the
best day of my life or that one that night
was the best night of my life, were you like
being truthful? And they're like, yeah, that was like the
last time we were truly free for that one night.
(34:26):
And like I thought that line of dialogue hit and
that was cool and that was cool to have like
that that conversation happened. But I didn't love the like
they sat down chumped it up for a second like
that I didn't love. I did love that Stack and
Mary like that love last forever, and I loved that
the acknowledgment of like the music and the blues or
when they were truly free. That was like they died
(34:46):
that night, but it was the best night of their life.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
And then also with Smoke's death, While yeah, it's always
cool to get that Tarantino shootout at the end, I
had almost like so when Preacher Boy goes back to
the ch I kind of said to myself, oh, I
bet Smoke is gonna deal with the Ku Klux Klan now,
like off on his own and like I said it
in my head and just said, okay, we'll just move
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on from this. But then they showed it.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Shout Out the Strangers one of my all time favorite
horror movies. They open and close the movie the same
way they do here. The opening of that movie is
the children walking down the street and the strangers are
pulled over and they get the fucking the religious pamphlets
and then they walk up to the house see it,
and it cuts back. Same sort of thing here we
cut It opens with Sammy preacher boy, pulling up to
(35:34):
the church, and we cut back to that. So I
do like that. So getting to Smoke's death, I absolutely
loved the climax of this movie Goo with Remick having
Sammy like in the Shallows, getting ready to end him.
The dialogue there between the two characters is fucking incredible.
(35:55):
And then when Sammy starts reciting the Ae Father and
Remick is also saying it, and he's like, these words
aren't gonna save you. They don't belong to you. They
are forced on you the same way they were forced
on me when my people got you know, taken over.
Like that is just such brilliant writing and moment like
these these words might comfort you, but they're not gonna
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save you. Like these words are just another form of repression.
You're being repressed right now for racial reasons, but like
religion is the same shit. Like that's what Remick is
hammering home. And now you know the oppressed, the oppressed
becomes the oppressor. So not that Remi's right, but like
what he's saying is right. And I really loved that that,
(36:36):
Like the dynamic there, the lines, the things they're connecting
there was fucking great. And then Smoke saved Sammy in
a fantastic way, and like then the sun comes out
and they all get burnt up, and you think they're
all dead until you see Stack and Mary in the
post credit, and then you get like that what final
ten minutes where Smoke is preparing for the clan members
(36:59):
to come that next morning, and it's great. He fucking
demolishes him in a fantastic Tarantino style like shootout, and
then I did It was a beautiful scene where he's
sitting there because he's mortally wounded too, and he looks
to the right and he sees Annie who died the
night before, and their dead son or daughter.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
I forget who but he also had to kill her.
He had to free her spirit when she became a vampire.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Right and then like they see the like that was
a really cool scene.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
It was. I just wasn't sure if I needed that
scene though.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Annie. He has a great line of dialogue though she
calls him by his real name, which I forget, and
she says put that out. I don't want any smoke
on her saying I don't want first of all, the smoke,
but like, I don't want the character of smoke in
the afterlife. I want the real youth. That was a
great line of dialogue too. It was a really cool death,
(37:53):
great way.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
My wife said the same thing to me, but she
said goo, I was holding slime at the time.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yes. So, getting back to your overarching point about things
being kind of tied up in a nice, neat little knot,
I think there's some people that are gonna be really
satisfied by that. How like the characters we thought were super.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Cool satisfactors through the Roof, I just don't I also think.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
There are people more Cinophiles that are going to be
like for the story, it would have been better if
they cut it off here.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Because I think it would have been its best ending
with Preacher Boy's father saying put that guitar down, and
then it just cuts to him on the road holding
it the guitar and that's it.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yeah, And I liked and I love because and it
goes back to his conversation with Stack in the future.
He chooses music and the blues over the religion because
the music and the blues is when he's truly free.
It's truly when he's himself and he like he is
bringing up those souls and everything from the.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
But you could have just you didn't need that conversation.
You could have just no, I had movie get that.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
I get that, and that's where and that's where I
feel like, you know, maybe you're you're you're closer to
forty hot Dogs if there's a little more of that
inceptioning stuff that you're talking about there. But like, the
music is fucking fantastic, dude. Like the soundtrack and like,
what is it Lugwood Gordonson who did the score and
the music for this movie. Fucking phenomenal dude, Like one
of the most memorable soundtracks and scores in a while.
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And like the music is a character in this movie.
The setting, the time, the place, to character. Like, this
movie just does everything well. It does everything well.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I also loved when Smoke revealed that the guitar was
their fathers. Yeah that was great, and that Sack had
lied about where they got it from.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yeah, yeah, that was good. And there was like so
that's the other thing too, Like we don't get much
about their background, Like they allude to fighting in World
War One, you know, they left, go to Chicago, come back.
We don't get like any background there. We don't get
the I think what we needed was some vampire background.
So that's where I have like some.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
We also like we don't truly know what they did
to get their money.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
It's just right right, yeah, Rob the Irish and the
Italians in Chicago. Like, and that's where at two hours
and seventeen minutes, I know this is technically a long movie,
but it feels like we needed like another ten minutes
of that stuff and maybe five minutes less on the.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Back, I would have preferred that stuff over the satisfactory ending.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yeah. I get that. I get that, And and I
don't know if I'm quite as far they're saying, I
don't know if I like I did like a lot
of what we got at the end. But I agree,
like with with your sentiment there, but like that's what
we're talking about, Like we're nitpicking because it's a great movie.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
We should have said this at the beginning, we recommend
this movie.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
So like I feel like I'm having a thirty seven
hot dogs and I'm like, as I'm talking about, maybe
it is thirty eight. Like it's not a forty hot
dog movie. Don't get me wrong, It's not gonna it's
not gonna get to that pantheon, but it is one
of the best movies of the year, and it is
gonna be a movie you think about all year.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Are there any of your questions, cons and pros that
we did not get to.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Yeah, so we talked about the vampire stuff. Again, I
wanted early intro remic, being more sympathetic would have been better.
Oh yeah. Also, here's a big question for you. We
didn't talk about this. What did you think about Grace
and them setting up her daughter and that being the
reason for them to yell for the vampire. They they
did need a reason. I don't know. That's why I'm like,
I don't know if I loved it, but I don't
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know how you do it better than what they chose
to do it. They like intentionally set it up so
that she had the daughter to motivate her in that scene.
I get it. I don't know if I loved it,
But where the fuck did the Native Americans go?
Speaker 1 (41:34):
I was asking that the entire time, and I thought
at some point they were going to show up to
help the final two or three living people, or like.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
That morning when the clan arrived, like they roll up
on Michael as he's already like took taking them out,
Like it was just it was weird, like and that's it.
It goes back to like they're in the vampire introduction
scene and that scene feels really out of place because
they're there and the vampires there forty five minutes in
we never ever see them again, and like that's how
we get the vampire intro that. Like I didn't love that.
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I really didn't love how the vampire stuff came into it,
and I didn't love how the Native Americans just never
came back.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Are there any of your pros that.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
There's also an actual post credit of the gentleman who
played Sammy Miles, Cat and katan On Isaay's name, uh
playing music for like a minute at the end, him singing, I.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Wish I stayed for that. I thought that singing in
the music in this was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
That man has an incredible voice. Incredible voice.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Can you recommend this to non horror people?
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Yeah, because it's not that scary. It's just it's an
element of it. It's more of a thriller than it
is like a horror like I. And there is some
blood in a little bit of gore, but it's not
over the top and I don't think it's something that
people wouldn't be able to stomach if you're not into that.
I think this is a movie you can recommend to everyone.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
And they're also not using the vampires as monsters as
much as they were using them to just get the
point across.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yeah, it's more of an allegory and it's and it's
more of a storytelling element than it is to scare people.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Let's get into Max Sack. Ma Sack could be anything.
It could be a boat and Mac. In the movie
that we just saw, Michael B. Jordan played not one
but two characters. I Am gonna run through the Mount
rushmore of I believe the greatest actor playing two characters
(43:30):
in a movie, maybe more than two characters in a movie.
Tell me if you believe Michael B. Jordan did a
better job than the actors that I read off.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Okay, fair enough, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Michael B. Jordan versus Jack Nicholson in Mars Attacks.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
I'll take Michael be here.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
He plays the president, he plays that other guy. You
don't like it.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
It might be one of Jack Nicholson's finest roles.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Actually, that's your weezer take, that's your the shining No
One flew over a Cuckoo's Nest, No Mars Attacks. Michael B.
Jordan versus Mike Myers in the Austin Powers trilogy.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
As much as I enjoy that, and as much as
I enjoy Eddie Murphy as I'm sure you're gonna bring
up in a second, don't you give me Michael B.
Give me Michael B.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Austin Powers, Doctor Evil, Fat Bastard, gold Member, give me
Michael B. I'm taking Austin Powers.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Fair enough.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Michael B. Jordan versus Eddie Murphy in all of his movies.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
I'll take Michael B.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Coming to America. He plays like five characters the clumps.
He's all of the clumps, not professor in Norbit. He's
both Norbert and resputant. Respuccha Respoocha, not resputing Rah Rah Resputin.
All right, how about this one then, Michael B. Jordan
versus Lindsey Lowe in The Parent Trap.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Now we're talking. Now we're talking here. This is a
real tough one. You got Lindsay Lohan playing American Lindsay Lohan,
and you have Lindsay Lohan playing British Lindsay Lohan.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
That was the joke that I made earlier, by the way, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yeah, I think I think you might go Lindsay Lohan here.
She really showed her acting chops with her British accent.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Is double Lindsay Lohan the greatest twin role of all time?
Speaker 2 (45:29):
It just might be.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
It just might be because also she was such an unknown
that you thought there actually were two of her.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
I thought there was two twins, much like the Olsen twins,
so just.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Had their movie It Takes Two, pretty much the exact
same movie.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Yeah. I thought there was two Lindsay Lohans for five
years until like early two thousands, when you figure out, oh,
it's just her.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
As a part of my childhood. We'd always go to
Maine every year. We still do this as a family,
and we would stay in a cottage that wouldn't have
any cable, but there'd be VCR so you'd spend a
lot of time watching tapes. We would. I remember one
year we just rotated it was It Takes Two and Grease?
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Is that why you hate Grease?
Speaker 1 (46:12):
And then we also had of vhs of things that
we recorded off the television, so we watched a lot
of There was an episode of Third Rock from the
Sun where they snuck into the super Bowl, so on
a loop it takes to Grease and the Third Rock
from the Sun where they snuck into the super Bowl
and Tommy was a baby.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Okay, all right, Wow.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
If I had won more, I can make a Mount Rushmore.
You know what's crazy is on Facebook and I keep
on these keep on popping up to me. Is so
there's the ai Mount rushmorees that people are making and
some people, too many people are putting five faces on
a rock.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Oh my god, so they're not even a war.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
That's very funny, but it makes me laugh every gold time.
And like there's one rule to them. Ount Rushmore four faces,
unless you're counting Bulk and Skull as one, which I am.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Yeah, I'll do that. I'll kay. Like, if you're gonna
put two Lindsay Lohans on there, they count as one.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
All right, Mac, Where can the folks find us?
Speaker 2 (47:17):
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Teapublic dot com mer check us out. Next week we'll
do news dump and then is Revenge of the Sith. Oh,
it's right, so I'm sorry, Revenge of the Sith on Monday,
and then maybe in news dump at the end of
the week. But his thunderbolts out next week.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
Two weeks. I thought, but maybe you're right. It's on May,
isn't It is May?
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Next week when Thunderbolts is out, we'll talk about Thunderbolts.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Give me your your your your glass half full sort
of expectation for Thunderbolts.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
Like as a positive or a negative class.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Half full is a positive.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
Team dynamic.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Okay, I was expecting more like never mind.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
I thought we're back in the pyramid.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
It was a bad question. It was a worse answer.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
It's like that Ryan Coogler movie that's coming out.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
I meant, it's a good callback right there. I met like,
if this movie is gonna be good, how is it
gonna how is how is it gonna affect like the MCU.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
If it's gonna be good, it's gonna be on the
back of this team. The team dynamic will be what
makes it good, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Okay, fair enough, that's a fair answer. I think. I
think of this movie is gonna be good, it's because
Century is really cool and Century is gonna matter going forward.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
I think if it's bad, it's because Century is boring.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
That might be right too. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
So Tuesdays or Goose Days, I abuse kangaroos, Jimbarton.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Please flip the cassette over to side B to continue
the adventure. Now it's time for girls jumping on trampolines. Trimbopolines,
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