February 14, 2025 • 38 mins
A slew of protesters gathered on Boston Common holding signs which read, “Stop the Coup” and “Stop Elon Musk Now.” Organizers from many different Massachusetts-based organizations expressed concerns over Elon Musk’s appointment to lead the newly formed Department of Government Efficiency. Dan discussed.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZST radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All right, Don, if you were in downtown Boston today,
it's been cold day. There was a demonstration, and the
demonstration has kind of it was a lot of the
progressive groups were demonstrating. As a matter of fact, Madison
Rogers covered the demonstration for w b Z Boston's news radio,
and we will get to Madison's report in just a second.
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But this is a group that is uh they are
calling themselves, I guess, well, a bunch of different names.
Three point fifty mass will rally with allies across Massachusetts
to protest the illegal coup happening right now in Washington.
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Join us tomorrow in Valentine's Day at the Parkman House
of the Boston Common and then they marched to the
Kennedy Building in downtown Boston. Uh. No, no one elected
Elon Musk. The cruelty of this administration impacts all of us.
Us all join us. So it talks about the bandstand
on the Boston Common. Stop the coup goals. Do you
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remember the Trump people got in trouble with stop the
Steal back in two thousand and one when you had
the riot at the Capitol. Now today, everybody seemed to
be in fairly good order. They I think that they
marched a little bit and might have impacted traffic somewhat,
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but not in the way that I think it has
been done in the past and maybe done in the future.
But what I thought was interesting was these were the
frontline groups. Now they their phrase the impacted slash frontline groups.
There were nine of them that made up this demonstration.
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The Boston Dyke March, the Boston Coalition for Palestine, Green
Roots Home for All Massachusetts if not now, Boston North
American Indian Center of Boston, the Palestinian House of New England,
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the Palestinian Youth Movement, and the Springfield Climate Justice Coalition.
So there seems to be some pro Palestinian groups here,
some climate groups. And then they have those are the
nine impacted groups. This is from their press release. And
then they have fifty six groups some of them you know,
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well the first one is three point fifty mass So
whatever that is, that's the group I guess that was
heading the group today. The American Civil Liberties Union of
Massachusetts understand that Boston Democratic Socialists of America, Okay, Canton
Residents for a sustainable, equitable future. That would be craff
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if that's a tough acronym. The Communist Party of Massachusetts.
That's group number eleven. Now I didn't realize we had
an active Communist Party of Massachusetts, but I guess we do.
The Extinction Rebellion Boston. Don't know what that means, friends
of the Notch Forest, they probably had a big delegation
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there today. Some of these groups I can't even pronounce,
but that's okay. Indivisible Boris and beyond. I have no
idea what that is. Indivisible Melrose Wakefield plus indivisible mass Coalition,
individual indivisible Upper cap Cape. So I guess that's a
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whole lot of indivisible visibility. I guess the mass Power
Forward Coalition. That is not Boston Celtic players who play
Power Forward. Okay, it's a group called the Massachusetts Powered
Forward Coalition. I assume that is, I mean the Celtics.
You only have a couple of power Forwards. Anyway, what
else we got here? Just some of the ones mother's
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outfront Massachusetts got some mothers in there, north Shore for Palestine.
Next one is north Shore individuals. We get a lot
of Palestine. A lot of individual groups here. Progressive Democrats
of Massachusetts, that is, that's a very important group because
they are destroying the Democratic Party as we know it.
Progressive Massachusetts, Progressive mass of Western Norfolk County. I don't
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see Progressive mass of Eastern Norfolk County, but I'm sure
there is such a group. What else do we have here?
The Sierra Club of Massachusetts. That's a very legitimate organization,
the Stop Bullying Coalition. I mean, everybody should be in
favor of that. Trees as a public good network. Okay,
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and the Workers were Party of Boston. I did skip
across someone, but that gives you a sense and to
give you a sense of how it all went down.
His report filed today by w b z's Madison Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Hundreds of people thought bitter Wins through downtown, crossing in
a march from Boston, come into the JFK Federal Building.
They're rallying cry. They accused President Trump and Elon Musk
of an authoritarian power grab, and they're not happy with
the response from Democrats either. A blow after blow, each
headline allounds to my heart, charting the rapid descent of
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our country into fascism and Authothecy Niantin Narowitz is with
the Springfield Climate Justice Coalition, one of close to one
hundred organizations that took part in this rally. Speakers here
say they want this Valentine's Day to be a day
of community and resilience downtown. I'm Madison Rogers WBZ, Boston's
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News Radio.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
A lot of passion there, a lot of passion. Now,
I'd love to get your reaction to this because I
think we're going to see more of it again. We're
going to see words like coup and fascism that those
words were used in some part during the campaign. Oh yes,
the campaign. There was a presidential election about three months ago.
(06:26):
What December January Field, it's a little bit one hundred
days ago. Now, actually, I think it would almost be
exactly one hundred if you did the math, which I'm
not going to do, but that's okay. You you have
December January, that's sixty two days right there. We have
November fifth, so that's another twenty five days, So that's
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probably eighty five days and it's the fifteenth. It's exactly
probably one hundred days since the election. And we deal
with presidential election every four years, and sometimes we vote democratics,
sometimes we vote Republican and just as crazy as the
January sixth election was, and we certainly have talked about
that a lot. Here at nightside, I look at these
demonstrations that are beginning to sprout up. You can sense
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they're getting a little bit of momentum, the Communist Party
of Massachusetts and the Socialist Workers Alliance. I didn't see
any legitimate union organization there today. None was represented. They
had a list here again of how many groups. It
was over sixty five groups, sixty five groups. Some of
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the groups sounded the same, but there were sixty five groups,
and it looked to me like they probably were one
hundred people at the demonstration. As best I could tell,
it wasn't a huge demonstration, but certainly it was loud, noisy.
So my question is why where were these people last September,
October and November, And did they participate in the demonstration
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in the election or did they sit on the sidelines.
If they participated in the election, and they if they did,
I don't know that they did, why would they not
sit back and say, Okay, we lost, just like the
Republicans lost, and the Republicans did lose. Trump lost in
twenty twenty, and let's see what it's going to happen.
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That's my first question. If they didn't participate, if they
sat on the sidelines and for whatever reason wasn't happy
with either the Trump fance or the Harris Walls ticket,
what do they have to complain about? So I'd like
to open up the conversation. How much more of this
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street theater are we going to see in Boston and
elsewhere around the country. What purpose is served? And did
they not get the message from the voters in America? Now? Again,
the Trump campaign likes to say they have a mandate.
I don't think they have a mandate, but I do
think that they have been given the authority to lead.
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Donald Trump seems to be doing exactly what he said,
and I know that it's shaking some people up. But
I would ask those in the audience who are sympathetic
to this group, and if you are, I'd love to
hear from you. We have a thirty seven trillion dollar
national debt, We have a GDP, an entire GDP every
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year of about twenty five trillion. We are in Banana
Republic territory here from an economic point of view, when
you're debt a nation's debt exceeds its GDP, that's a problem.
We used to talk about what percentage of the GDP
can the federal debt rise to? Before we should be
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really worried about it. I mean when when George Bush
took over twenty four years ago or twenty yeah, twenty
four years ago, our national debt was five trillion dollars.
It's now thirty seven trillion dollars, so it has increased
seven times. Now you may say our day numbers, I
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don't get numbers. I don't get numbers. Let me tell
you a billion dollars, okay, is a thousand million dollars,
and a trillion dollars is a thousand billion dollars. And
we have thirty seven trillion dollars. That is generating interest
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that we are going to owe more and more. Now,
maybe not my generation, but if you're younger than the
baby boomers, it's it's gonna come. It's gonna come sadly
for young people. And I think a lot of young
people are beginning to understand that. And you can march
in the street, and you can protest, and you can
use whatever language you want. I don't think a coup's
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going on. I don't think that where in any jeopardy
of becoming a fasci estate. I think Donald Trump and
Elon Musk are trying to cut federal government a lot,
and I think they want to send a lot of
the obligations that the federal government have now assumed, like education,
back to the States. That's a philosophical difference, simple as that.
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It's not fascism. It is a philosophical difference. They have
felt that maybe there's too many people who are in
this department or that department. Seventy five thousand people have
tendered early resignations. They have been given an incentive by
the Trump administration, which I hope the Trump administration follows
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through on. I know that there's some question about how
certain the promises were or will be. They're talking about
giving people their salary all the way through September. There's
a lot of people. By the way, Federal Judge Georgia O'Toole,
I think did the right thing here in Boston. He
looked at it pretty closely and he said, you know,
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I don't see a problem with this. It's better that
people voluntarily decide to resign. I mean, if you're an
older worker and you're looking to retire, maybe all of
a sudden you feel that your health is not what
it once was five ten years ago, and you want
to enjoy some retirement as opposed to working and dying
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at your desk. Different people have different motivations. I know
that there are some people who were down there in
a probationary role. They took the job realizing that they
couldn't achieve permanent status or tenure whatever the phraseology would be,
that have to work a couple of years, and there's
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that period of time. So again, it's not a fascist state,
it's not a coup, but you have all of these
wild eyed, crazy, radical progressive organizations which you're going to
try to make a lot more noise in the next
few weeks. They see it as an opportunity and the
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next type demonstrations you'll see today it was a demonstration
in a march. When the weather gets better, I predict
could be well, I'm not gonna be wrong, but I
always leave open that possibility. These demonstrations will begin to
block traffic here in Boston and elsewhere. They've run that
play before it's been effective, they were oftentimes treated with
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kid gloves. I don't think they're going to be treated
with kid gloves this time, but we'll see. So I'm
gonna open. If all lines up, we're gonna talk about
this for an hour. Then we're going to talk about
love at ten o'clock with Carrie Brett. Carrie Brett, who
has written a new book actually released today. It's entitled
Shot at Love. She's a great photographer and she's going
to talk about the ups and downs within her own
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life and how love comes and love goes. And I
know Valentine's Day, everybody assumes everybody is perfectly happy. It's
not true. Some people have great Valentine's Days and some
people have Valentine's Days where they were alone. Whether you
are listening tonight with a loved one or you're sitting
there by yourself, we're here for you throughout the night,
and we will have Carrie Brett with us. At ten o'clock.
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We're going to do maybe forty minutes here of serious
political talk. Then we're gonna talk about affairs of the heart,
and then later on we'll talk about what grinds your gears,
and then we'll be at midnight. My name's Dan Ray.
Here are the number six one, seven, two, five four
ten thirty or six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
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Demonstration today wasn't a big demonstration. It was noisy, maybe
inconvenience some people a little bit who might have been
driving in automobiles. But the worst is yet to come.
Trust me on that. The worst is yet to come.
And these groups, I want to know, how can you
spend an entire friday? How much what these people have jobs?
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Or did they have Fridays off? Did they take a
long weekend? Valentine's Day is not a holiday as far
as I know. Monday's a holiday. If you're gonna do
a demonstration, do it on Monday. Maybe they'll be back
on Monday. You never know. I'll be back on Monday,
and if they are, we'll talk about that on Monday
night as well. Coming back on night Side, let's get
the phones going back right after this.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Now back to Dan Ray line from the Window World
Nightside Studios on w b Z News Radio.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
So we're talking about a demonstration in Boston today. Madison
Rodgers file a report. We have another report from her
was similar. Basically, you heard about it. I want to
know what you thought about it. We're gonna go to
Chris and chelmsaid, first off, Chris, you're first this hour
on Nightside. Go right, hey, Chris.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
The one question is I hear did you say it
was three fifty? There's only three hundred and fifty cities
and towns. How I heard you say earlier than the
nine o'clock I were that there were sometimes that were
demonstrated and awesome too, wasn't it a demonstration? Can't go
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three four years ago? That block ninety three or one
twenty eight?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Oh yeah, that that that was done I think during
Trump's first administration, and that play will be you'll see
that replayed again. No, what I said was that there
were some of the the groups here Chris, are are they?
They seem to associate themselves with a group, for example,
the Cambridge Citizens Coalition. Now I don't know how many
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people in Cambridge belonging to the Cambridge Citizens Coalition. You
and I could start a group if I lived in
Chelmford called the Chelmford Citizens Coalition, and it could be
two people. I was just trying to say the ones
that struck me most interestingly is you had the Communist
Party of Massachusetts. I didn't even know that they still existed.
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Me too, Workers World Party of Boston. How many how
big a group is that they could have a meeting
in it if they still had telephone booths, they could
have a meeting in a telephone booth.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Exactly. I'm pretty six years old, and I'm like, could
give me a break. They can't believe it, Oh manez
so is going for the weekend.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
No, No, I'm sure they had their their, their their
demonstration today and I suspect they'll probably have one on
Monday because Monday's a holiday. I don't know how all
of those people able to spend today demonstrating. I thought
today was a work day, but that's okay. They did
their demonstration, and I just wanted to point out who
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they are, and again, they had I don't know, sixty
five supposed organizations. There are a lot of the groups
that were the Boston Coalition for Palestine, the Palestinian House
of New England, the Palestinian Youth Movement, so there were
a lot of groups that associated themselves with Palestinian rights
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along with the Communist Party in Massachusetts, Boston, Democratic Socialist
of America. I don't know how many of those people,
but when you add up the groups, it probably was like,
I don't know one hundred or one hundred and fifty
people there. If you have sixty five groups coming, you think, man,
that's going to be a huge demonstration. It was a
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nice demonstration, but it wasn't a huge demonstration. And for them,
basically what they're trying to say is there's a coup
going on in Washington. No, there was an election on
November fifth and and Donald Trump and JD. Vance won,
and they have some ideas about how they would like
to shrink the role of the federal government. That's what
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they're doing.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
And hey, you blame them.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
We have a federal debt of thirty seven trillion dollars.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
I agree with you, Yab, I just can't believe it.
What is going on here? Well it is. It's actually
ninety four days. It'll be many five day tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Well whatever, it's about one hundred days. I think if
the math, if you do the math, today's the fifteenth.
They were twenty five days. Yeah, I'm not going to
argue over the days. Plus it's one hundred days. But
it doesn't matter where were they during the election.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Okay, exactly, good question, very good questions. Then, Ray, all right,
and this is the first time today on night day,
the first time what I have heard this. There is
this demon station there who is not mentioned on the
news tonight on Channel four or five or seven.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, there are some stories about this demonstrat. No no,
no no. I watched the evening news tonight and I
know Channel five carried it on their newscast, and I
think Channel four did as well. I know w b Z.
Did you heard the Madison Rogers piece.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Hey, Chris so I got a scool Okay, you too,
Limits ANDIGND you too.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
There's there is good news. The Red Sox signed Alex Bregman.
So that's that's good news. Okay, thanks, good night. It's
nine thirty. We got Tom coming up on the other side.
Sean and Habel got some room for you. I got
one line at six one, seven, two, five, four, ten
thirty and a couple at six one seven, nine three
one ten thirty. My suspicion is we're going to see
a lot of this, a lot of this. There was
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very few. These were the pol This was the hardcore
left that was demonstrating today. This wasn't even the anti
immigration folks per se, this was the hard core left.
These were the people that probably will help Donald Trump's ratings.
I mean, that's the point the Democrats, uh, you know,
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for Chuck Schuman to be out there with uh with
a Corona beer, uh and an avocado, and I don't
know if you heard him yet, we will win. I
mean it's normal Democrats right now do not know who
the leaders are. And that's the subject that might take
up on Monday night. We'll be back on night Side
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right after this, after the news at the bottom of
the hour.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
All right, back to the calle for go to go
to Tom in West Virginia. Tom, you were next on Nightside,
Go right ahead, Tom.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Hey, thanks for telling Dan. You know, I think a
lot of a lot of these leftists, a lot of
them are just malcontents that are just in perpetual revelation.
Now I'm I'm a union member, and I can remember
in the eighties and nineties in Boston, organized labor when
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it came to the building trades would really distance themselves
from communists. And I mean that goes back to the
nineteen fifties when the organized purge, the rank and filed,
We got to get the reds out of here.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, I think they still do. There was there was
no one at this demonstration today from any legitimate labor
organization that I could see. I read off the names
of the group's tom they It's like it was like
a compendian and you know radical groups you could find.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Right And you know, if you go back, you know
one hundred years ago, Yeah, you had the industrial Workers
of the world, one big union will rule the world. Well,
you know, we have a capitalist society that has really
brought people from abject poverty into the middle class. And
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you know, back when I was a Democrat in the
eighties and I went to the state convention twice nineteen
eighty eight in Springfield when the police had the picket
line and then Walter Brown arena as a delegate both times.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
How does that? How does that relate to what we're
talking about tonight?
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Okay, well, people the high believe about Elon Musk and Trump.
What I'm to do is expose the waste, fraud and abuse,
and progressive should be celebrating that they're not going to
take away your social security, you know. In other words,
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I have elderly friends that are just recently got their
social security. They haven't had any issues with that, so
they haven't.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
And when you have the fact, you know, Donald Donald
Trump earlier this week was talking about coming to an
agreement maybe to end the hostilities in Ukraine. Normally the
left in this country wants to see, you know, hostilities ended.
I would think that they'd be celebrating that that, you know,
after after Joe Biden muddling through this situation and giving
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Ukraine some military support and withholding some military support, and
they've been grudgingly giving him the military support that they say, gee,
this is interesting. Trump's talking to Putin. Pruton's a bad guy,
but maybe if Trump can get him to back off
Ukraine and stop the killing over there. You would think
that some of these groups, we see that's that's okay,
that's a good thing, but no, they want us.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
That they.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
If we go back twenty years ago, these are the
same people that were calling George Bush a war criminal,
a murderer, and a racist. Okay, when George Bush gave
Michelle Obama at Trump's first inauguration, all of a sudden
he became a responsible Republican. Like I said, these people
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are malcontents and there is not a fascist movement going
on in this country.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
The the other thing, the other thing, which I just
want to have a conversation with you. The other thing
which I think is really important today is here. It
is Friday. This is not a holiday. Where do these
people work? I mean, they they're there from noontime, I
guess until one point thirty? Are they working? Do they
have jobs? What are they doing? I mean, how how
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are they surviving?
Speaker 5 (25:20):
They're professional protesters, many of.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Them, and then profession At some point next month or
next week, we're going to wake up and be told, well,
traffic has stopped on the Southeast Expressway because people are
out there linking arm and arm and they have their
hands and cement. But you know, that's that's they're going
to go right back to the same place.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
I remember.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Yeah, Well they did that in two thousand and eight,
and in I believe it was Suffolk County, a judge
slapped them on the wrist and congratulated them on their
social justice attitudes. But here's the reality that if they
do do that, and let's say there's a heart attack
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patient in an ambulance, it's held up. The public outcry
is going to be no, we want them sentenced to prison.
They can't have these public temper tansions like that. If
they want to have a massive rally on Boston Common,
be my guest. It's a free country, which they did today,
which don't have the today.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
But once, once time, once, once Elon Musk doesn't, you know,
decide that he's going to give up his American citizenship
and move back to South Africa. They won't be satisfied.
And the next thing they're going to be doing is
they are going to be out blocking traffic on ninety three,
on the Expressway wherever they can do that, and there
will be people in ambulances who will be adversely impacted.
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I talked to people the last time this happened. There
was one couple who had to abandon their car and
literally run to the exit and then try to flag
down anyone so they could get to the hospital where
I guess the mother was undergoing surgery. The eighty nine
year old mother was going undergoing surgery. There was one
woman there last time, a few years ago, when these
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clowns did this. She had two kids in the backseat,
trying to take them to a doctor's office. Both of
them had double ear infections, and anyone who's had kids
knows that when the kids have double air infections, they
are screaming in pain. And this woman was stopped in
dead traffic, and that's that's the position she found herself in.
The demonstrators don't care about those people. They don't care
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about people into the ambulances. They just care about their
ability to mess things up for other people.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Yeah. Well, all I can say is be careful what
they wish for, because I will tell you one thing
in my situation, if they see they see my Trump
twenty twenty four sticker on the back of my pickup
truck and they bust my windshield, I can't say what
over the air is gonna happen. No, absolutely, But with
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the great imagination, it's the Great Malcolm X. As the
Great Malcolm X once said, I will defend myself by
any means necessary.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
All right, on that point, I'm gonna zero overnight. All right,
Thank you to thanks very much. Talk later. I got
a couple of lines at six, one, seven, nine, three, one,
ten thirty. We will change topics at ten o'clock, so
I give you fear warning. Now. Sean is up next,
followed by Paul. We can probably get you in if
you want to die right away six one seven, two, five,
four to ten thirty or six one seven, nine three
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one ten thirty b right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Back to the phones. Let's go to Sean, who is
joining us from haverl Massachusetts. Hey, Sean, welcome, next on Nightside.
Speaker 8 (28:52):
Hey, how are you doing, Dan?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I'm doing great, Thanks for calling in, Sean. What's your
take on what I think will be more more of
these demonstrations.
Speaker 9 (29:03):
I tell you I'm gonna I'm gonna just share this.
To start off with, it must be good to have
time to not go to a job, not being able
to pay, you know, like if you have if you
have a mortgage, you know, taking the time off so
that way you're not earning the money to do that
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and protest. I mean, you know, it's crazy. It's crazy,
and you know that when it comes to the last
four years, I'll say, especially with I just want to
throw this out there with us just throwing money at Ukraine,
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uh and not asking for anything in return, as well
as US leaving mass full of weapons behind in Afghanistan,
you know, everybody.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Million dollars worth of weapons. I mean, oh.
Speaker 9 (30:03):
Yeah, yeah, you'd think that that would be an investigation
for an impeachment on that front.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
But you know that put it out the the the
president who oversaw that debacle is no longer president. So
that's that is a movie the.
Speaker 9 (30:19):
Lord for that. And Dan, I just want to say
one thing. If you were to, if you were to
scroll through some of the social media posts over the
past couple of months, I'll tell you it just seems
like the people on the left are not paying attention
to what's going on. They think that Elon Musk is
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a bad person, you know, all this other stuff. He
doesn't need the money, you know, and he's not getting
paid for helping out Donald Trump and the American people,
you know, and people just aren't getting that, and they I.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Think the far left is so far out of it
is even funny. I'm happy to see them out of
touch because the longer they stay out of the country
will be.
Speaker 9 (31:08):
Yeah, yeah, no, I get it. And it's just like
and the.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Democrats have to figure out. The Democrats have to figure
out who in their ranks is going to lead them
back to reality and whether or not it's Governor Shapiro
in Pennsylvania or Governor Cooper in North Carolina. It's not
going to be AOC and and it's certainly is not
going to be Chuck Schumer. Ernie No, I mean, yeah,
(31:36):
Bernie's just going to age out at some point, that's
for sure. But God loved Bernie. With Bernie, you know,
he's he's been preaching the same doctrine for his entire life.
He is a socialist at his at his core, he's
really a communist. But but he's sworn enough to say, hey,
I'm just a socialist. He's not stupid stupid, and he
(31:57):
also has a whole bunch of properties. He's he's he's
probably one of the wealthiest socialists in this country.
Speaker 9 (32:04):
I wouldn't doubt it.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I wouldn't doubt the politics had been very, very good
to Bernie. If you if you remember the GA Saturday.
Speaker 8 (32:10):
That well, yeah, right.
Speaker 9 (32:13):
One thing I just want to say in closing is
why don't we have term limits on some of these politicians?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
They're making the people that have who's going to vote
the term limits. The po we're asking the politicians to
vote themselves term limits never gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Yeah, that's unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I mean, the presidents of the United States didn't vote
themselves term limits that was imposed by Congress. But they
weren't on term limits on Congress. They were voting on
term limits on the other branch. Gotta go. Sean loved
the calls. Have a great weekend.
Speaker 7 (32:46):
Hey, good get the talk.
Speaker 9 (32:47):
He Dan, call.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Again, Thanks much. Let's go to Paul Paul and Dorchester
Paul next on NIGHTSI goright ahead.
Speaker 7 (32:55):
Hey, Dan, I called make a couple of points. I
got like five or six emails today asking me if
I would like to go to a demonstration in Boston,
and I'm like, no, delete it. And then I got
another one. I'm like, all these different organizations were fishing
for people to go, and I think that this was
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organized and by one larger group perhaps, but they were
just empty barrels get together and make a lot of noise.
And that's one thing.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Now.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
Number two is that in my sixty seven years of
dealing with politicians and politics, it's been the goal of
every budget person to make to spend all their money
because if you didn't spend your money, you didn't do
your job, and you couldn't ask for more next year.
And that's the goal for everything. And the other thing
(33:54):
is power is derived from jobs. Okay, you're gonna get
your daughter is getting married. Well, you know your son
in law is going to need a good job. Oh
sixty thousand not enough. Let's make them an executive. They
give out jobs, they put these organizations out there, they
funnel this money out there. It's it's it's almost like
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Simon says, and and and and simple Simon says that
change the sea and democrat to end and you got
demon rat and and and that's what we're dealing with.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
There's good democrats. These people are insane in my opinion,
they're not insane.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
They used to be.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
They would like, yeah, they would like to take over
the country and take us down a road towards Cuba
or or communist China. That's where they would like to
get to us, where everybody would be equal, but some
would be more equal than others. That I feel that
I've seen that I got to get a couple more
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in Okay, thank you.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
For one last thing, one last thing.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, Paul, what's that.
Speaker 7 (35:05):
Well, Happy Valentine's Day, sweet hut. Let everybody out there.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Right back as thanks man, all right, I got to
try to get two in here. Let me go to
Mike and Arlington and then Bernie in New Hampshire. Mike,
go ahead, I'm gonna get you in along with Bernie.
Speaker 8 (35:17):
Go ahead, Mike, Hi, Dan, great show. Just one point,
there is already another demonstration scheduled on the Boston Common
this Monday, and it's called not My President's Day.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Perfect. How about that. That's good to know that. See
if they start to block traffic, they may not block
traffic because it's a holiday. They're just testing to see
what they can attract at this point. So stay away
from the Common, don't do anything stupid, don't count to demonstrate.
Let them have their demonstration that's which they have every
right they have, and let's see how many people they
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can turn out.
Speaker 8 (35:52):
Thanks Dan, good night, Thank you, Mark.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Appreciate the call. Mike, excuse me, thank you, Mike. Let
me go finally wrap it up the hour with Bernie
in New Hampshire. Bernie, welcome back.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
Hey, how are you doing?
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Dan?
Speaker 6 (36:03):
Thank you? I hope you're having a good evening.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I'm having a great evening. Thanks for calling. What's your
take on all of this?
Speaker 6 (36:11):
Well, I remember I consistent. Me and my wife made
a sacrifice that she would say home and race the kids,
and I had a job that I could work as
many hours as I could and I.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
By and by the way, again, how is that son
of yours doing?
Speaker 6 (36:27):
Oh, he's good, doing great, he said, he's doing really well.
He has just the ambling and a forge left and
he's and he said, he's kind of going through it
very easy. But he's put an extra employed so when
he goes to rast training, he's in really good shape.
So he's really enjoying it.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Excellent, next one, please again send him everyone out on
night side our best. We're rooting for him. Uh, young
man just joined the military. Give me I'll give you
a final comment here on this demonstration and what to
look for. Whatever you'd like to say, go right ahead. Bernie.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
Well, I was just like when they did Occupy Boss
that I remember being seven o'clock in the morning driving
to Boston watching these people on tent. So I'm the
Rose Kennedy greet Greenway, like just smoking marijuana or doing
whatever they weren't working, And my buddy says, hey, next
time they have one of these, Berney, why don't we
just not work and go and hang out here and
might do nothing. And it's funny to a point, But
(37:25):
you know what about us, people who chose to work
for a living and do the right thing and try
and just instill all these great qualities that make this
country great.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
For years and years, people like you have not been
appreciated or you've been underappreciated. And for years and years
and years, a lot of people have given all the demonstrators,
let him do this, let him do that, Let them
demonstrate in the common, But when they start to block traffic,
bust them, arrest them and give them some real jail
time for real simple that in my li And that.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
Was the point I was trying to make. Four years ago,
I was working at Mystic Station in Charleston and I
had a heart attack and thank God, like they weren't
doing it that day because I was from Mystic Station
and Charles, somebody arm Court Casino to the to the
mass General will Kadi yak Here unit, which happens to
be one of the best ones in the world. Within
twenty two minutes. Now, if them idiots were blocked in
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traffic and I might have had different results. I had
the best box movies out of kids.
Speaker 7 (38:25):
OK, thank god, Yeah we did twenty two minutes.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Again, our best wishes to your son. Keep us posted.
We will talk again. Thanks Bernie, thank you.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
I have a good night.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I we come back. We're going to talk with Kerry
Brett shot at Love. It's gonna be a great hour. Ladies,
this is one that you should pay very close attention to.
Everyone should. We'll be back on Night's ad after this
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZST radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All right, Don, if you were in downtown Boston today,
it's been cold day. There was a demonstration, and the
demonstration has kind of it was a lot of the
progressive groups were demonstrating. As a matter of fact, Madison
Rogers covered the demonstration for w b Z Boston's news radio,
and we will get to Madison's report in just a second.
(00:29):
But this is a group that is uh they are
calling themselves, I guess, well, a bunch of different names.
Three point fifty mass will rally with allies across Massachusetts
to protest the illegal coup happening right now in Washington.
(00:50):
Join us tomorrow in Valentine's Day at the Parkman House
of the Boston Common and then they marched to the
Kennedy Building in downtown Boston. Uh. No, no one elected
Elon Musk. The cruelty of this administration impacts all of us.
Us all join us. So it talks about the bandstand
on the Boston Common. Stop the coup goals. Do you
(01:13):
remember the Trump people got in trouble with stop the
Steal back in two thousand and one when you had
the riot at the Capitol. Now today, everybody seemed to
be in fairly good order. They I think that they
marched a little bit and might have impacted traffic somewhat,
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but not in the way that I think it has
been done in the past and maybe done in the future.
But what I thought was interesting was these were the
frontline groups. Now they their phrase the impacted slash frontline groups.
There were nine of them that made up this demonstration.
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The Boston Dyke March, the Boston Coalition for Palestine, Green
Roots Home for All Massachusetts if not now, Boston North
American Indian Center of Boston, the Palestinian House of New England,
(02:17):
the Palestinian Youth Movement, and the Springfield Climate Justice Coalition.
So there seems to be some pro Palestinian groups here,
some climate groups. And then they have those are the
nine impacted groups. This is from their press release. And
then they have fifty six groups some of them you know,
(02:41):
well the first one is three point fifty mass So
whatever that is, that's the group I guess that was
heading the group today. The American Civil Liberties Union of
Massachusetts understand that Boston Democratic Socialists of America, Okay, Canton
Residents for a sustainable, equitable future. That would be craff
(03:07):
if that's a tough acronym. The Communist Party of Massachusetts.
That's group number eleven. Now I didn't realize we had
an active Communist Party of Massachusetts, but I guess we do.
The Extinction Rebellion Boston. Don't know what that means, friends
of the Notch Forest, they probably had a big delegation
(03:29):
there today. Some of these groups I can't even pronounce,
but that's okay. Indivisible Boris and beyond. I have no
idea what that is. Indivisible Melrose Wakefield plus indivisible mass Coalition,
individual indivisible Upper cap Cape. So I guess that's a
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whole lot of indivisible visibility. I guess the mass Power
Forward Coalition. That is not Boston Celtic players who play
Power Forward. Okay, it's a group called the Massachusetts Powered
Forward Coalition. I assume that is, I mean the Celtics.
You only have a couple of power Forwards. Anyway, what
else we got here? Just some of the ones mother's
(04:13):
outfront Massachusetts got some mothers in there, north Shore for Palestine.
Next one is north Shore individuals. We get a lot
of Palestine. A lot of individual groups here. Progressive Democrats
of Massachusetts, that is, that's a very important group because
they are destroying the Democratic Party as we know it.
Progressive Massachusetts, Progressive mass of Western Norfolk County. I don't
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see Progressive mass of Eastern Norfolk County, but I'm sure
there is such a group. What else do we have here?
The Sierra Club of Massachusetts. That's a very legitimate organization,
the Stop Bullying Coalition. I mean, everybody should be in
favor of that. Trees as a public good network. Okay,
(04:58):
and the Workers were Party of Boston. I did skip
across someone, but that gives you a sense and to
give you a sense of how it all went down.
His report filed today by w b z's Madison Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Hundreds of people thought bitter Wins through downtown, crossing in
a march from Boston, come into the JFK Federal Building.
They're rallying cry. They accused President Trump and Elon Musk
of an authoritarian power grab, and they're not happy with
the response from Democrats either. A blow after blow, each
headline allounds to my heart, charting the rapid descent of
(05:40):
our country into fascism and Authothecy Niantin Narowitz is with
the Springfield Climate Justice Coalition, one of close to one
hundred organizations that took part in this rally. Speakers here
say they want this Valentine's Day to be a day
of community and resilience downtown. I'm Madison Rogers WBZ, Boston's
(06:02):
News Radio.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
A lot of passion there, a lot of passion. Now,
I'd love to get your reaction to this because I
think we're going to see more of it again. We're
going to see words like coup and fascism that those
words were used in some part during the campaign. Oh yes,
the campaign. There was a presidential election about three months ago.
(06:26):
What December January Field, it's a little bit one hundred
days ago. Now, actually, I think it would almost be
exactly one hundred if you did the math, which I'm
not going to do, but that's okay. You you have
December January, that's sixty two days right there. We have
November fifth, so that's another twenty five days, So that's
(06:46):
probably eighty five days and it's the fifteenth. It's exactly
probably one hundred days since the election. And we deal
with presidential election every four years, and sometimes we vote democratics,
sometimes we vote Republican and just as crazy as the
January sixth election was, and we certainly have talked about
that a lot. Here at nightside, I look at these
demonstrations that are beginning to sprout up. You can sense
(07:08):
they're getting a little bit of momentum, the Communist Party
of Massachusetts and the Socialist Workers Alliance. I didn't see
any legitimate union organization there today. None was represented. They
had a list here again of how many groups. It
was over sixty five groups, sixty five groups. Some of
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the groups sounded the same, but there were sixty five groups,
and it looked to me like they probably were one
hundred people at the demonstration. As best I could tell,
it wasn't a huge demonstration, but certainly it was loud, noisy.
So my question is why where were these people last September,
October and November, And did they participate in the demonstration
(07:54):
in the election or did they sit on the sidelines.
If they participated in the election, and they if they did,
I don't know that they did, why would they not
sit back and say, Okay, we lost, just like the
Republicans lost, and the Republicans did lose. Trump lost in
twenty twenty, and let's see what it's going to happen.
(08:18):
That's my first question. If they didn't participate, if they
sat on the sidelines and for whatever reason wasn't happy
with either the Trump fance or the Harris Walls ticket,
what do they have to complain about? So I'd like
to open up the conversation. How much more of this
(08:39):
street theater are we going to see in Boston and
elsewhere around the country. What purpose is served? And did
they not get the message from the voters in America? Now? Again,
the Trump campaign likes to say they have a mandate.
I don't think they have a mandate, but I do
think that they have been given the authority to lead.
(08:59):
Donald Trump seems to be doing exactly what he said,
and I know that it's shaking some people up. But
I would ask those in the audience who are sympathetic
to this group, and if you are, I'd love to
hear from you. We have a thirty seven trillion dollar
national debt, We have a GDP, an entire GDP every
(09:25):
year of about twenty five trillion. We are in Banana
Republic territory here from an economic point of view, when
you're debt a nation's debt exceeds its GDP, that's a problem.
We used to talk about what percentage of the GDP
can the federal debt rise to? Before we should be
(09:46):
really worried about it. I mean when when George Bush
took over twenty four years ago or twenty yeah, twenty
four years ago, our national debt was five trillion dollars.
It's now thirty seven trillion dollars, so it has increased
seven times. Now you may say our day numbers, I
(10:09):
don't get numbers. I don't get numbers. Let me tell
you a billion dollars, okay, is a thousand million dollars,
and a trillion dollars is a thousand billion dollars. And
we have thirty seven trillion dollars. That is generating interest
(10:31):
that we are going to owe more and more. Now,
maybe not my generation, but if you're younger than the
baby boomers, it's it's gonna come. It's gonna come sadly
for young people. And I think a lot of young
people are beginning to understand that. And you can march
in the street, and you can protest, and you can
use whatever language you want. I don't think a coup's
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going on. I don't think that where in any jeopardy
of becoming a fasci estate. I think Donald Trump and
Elon Musk are trying to cut federal government a lot,
and I think they want to send a lot of
the obligations that the federal government have now assumed, like education,
back to the States. That's a philosophical difference, simple as that.
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It's not fascism. It is a philosophical difference. They have
felt that maybe there's too many people who are in
this department or that department. Seventy five thousand people have
tendered early resignations. They have been given an incentive by
the Trump administration, which I hope the Trump administration follows
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through on. I know that there's some question about how
certain the promises were or will be. They're talking about
giving people their salary all the way through September. There's
a lot of people. By the way, Federal Judge Georgia O'Toole,
I think did the right thing here in Boston. He
looked at it pretty closely and he said, you know,
(12:02):
I don't see a problem with this. It's better that
people voluntarily decide to resign. I mean, if you're an
older worker and you're looking to retire, maybe all of
a sudden you feel that your health is not what
it once was five ten years ago, and you want
to enjoy some retirement as opposed to working and dying
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at your desk. Different people have different motivations. I know
that there are some people who were down there in
a probationary role. They took the job realizing that they
couldn't achieve permanent status or tenure whatever the phraseology would be,
that have to work a couple of years, and there's
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that period of time. So again, it's not a fascist state,
it's not a coup, but you have all of these
wild eyed, crazy, radical progressive organizations which you're going to
try to make a lot more noise in the next
few weeks. They see it as an opportunity and the
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next type demonstrations you'll see today it was a demonstration
in a march. When the weather gets better, I predict
could be well, I'm not gonna be wrong, but I
always leave open that possibility. These demonstrations will begin to
block traffic here in Boston and elsewhere. They've run that
play before it's been effective, they were oftentimes treated with
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kid gloves. I don't think they're going to be treated
with kid gloves this time, but we'll see. So I'm
gonna open. If all lines up, we're gonna talk about
this for an hour. Then we're going to talk about
love at ten o'clock with Carrie Brett. Carrie Brett, who
has written a new book actually released today. It's entitled
Shot at Love. She's a great photographer and she's going
to talk about the ups and downs within her own
(13:50):
life and how love comes and love goes. And I
know Valentine's Day, everybody assumes everybody is perfectly happy. It's
not true. Some people have great Valentine's Days and some
people have Valentine's Days where they were alone. Whether you
are listening tonight with a loved one or you're sitting
there by yourself, we're here for you throughout the night,
and we will have Carrie Brett with us. At ten o'clock.
(14:12):
We're going to do maybe forty minutes here of serious
political talk. Then we're gonna talk about affairs of the heart,
and then later on we'll talk about what grinds your gears,
and then we'll be at midnight. My name's Dan Ray.
Here are the number six one, seven, two, five four
ten thirty or six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
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Demonstration today wasn't a big demonstration. It was noisy, maybe
inconvenience some people a little bit who might have been
driving in automobiles. But the worst is yet to come.
Trust me on that. The worst is yet to come.
And these groups, I want to know, how can you
spend an entire friday? How much what these people have jobs?
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Or did they have Fridays off? Did they take a
long weekend? Valentine's Day is not a holiday as far
as I know. Monday's a holiday. If you're gonna do
a demonstration, do it on Monday. Maybe they'll be back
on Monday. You never know. I'll be back on Monday,
and if they are, we'll talk about that on Monday
night as well. Coming back on night Side, let's get
the phones going back right after this.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Now back to Dan Ray line from the Window World
Nightside Studios on w b Z News Radio.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
So we're talking about a demonstration in Boston today. Madison
Rodgers file a report. We have another report from her
was similar. Basically, you heard about it. I want to
know what you thought about it. We're gonna go to
Chris and chelmsaid, first off, Chris, you're first this hour
on Nightside. Go right, hey, Chris.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
The one question is I hear did you say it
was three fifty? There's only three hundred and fifty cities
and towns. How I heard you say earlier than the
nine o'clock I were that there were sometimes that were
demonstrated and awesome too, wasn't it a demonstration? Can't go
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three four years ago? That block ninety three or one
twenty eight?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Oh yeah, that that that was done I think during
Trump's first administration, and that play will be you'll see
that replayed again. No, what I said was that there
were some of the the groups here Chris, are are they?
They seem to associate themselves with a group, for example,
the Cambridge Citizens Coalition. Now I don't know how many
(16:38):
people in Cambridge belonging to the Cambridge Citizens Coalition. You
and I could start a group if I lived in
Chelmford called the Chelmford Citizens Coalition, and it could be
two people. I was just trying to say the ones
that struck me most interestingly is you had the Communist
Party of Massachusetts. I didn't even know that they still existed.
(16:58):
Me too, Workers World Party of Boston. How many how
big a group is that they could have a meeting
in it if they still had telephone booths, they could
have a meeting in a telephone booth.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Exactly. I'm pretty six years old, and I'm like, could
give me a break. They can't believe it, Oh manez
so is going for the weekend.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
No, No, I'm sure they had their their, their their
demonstration today and I suspect they'll probably have one on
Monday because Monday's a holiday. I don't know how all
of those people able to spend today demonstrating. I thought
today was a work day, but that's okay. They did
their demonstration, and I just wanted to point out who
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they are, and again, they had I don't know, sixty
five supposed organizations. There are a lot of the groups
that were the Boston Coalition for Palestine, the Palestinian House
of New England, the Palestinian Youth Movement, so there were
a lot of groups that associated themselves with Palestinian rights
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along with the Communist Party in Massachusetts, Boston, Democratic Socialist
of America. I don't know how many of those people,
but when you add up the groups, it probably was like,
I don't know one hundred or one hundred and fifty
people there. If you have sixty five groups coming, you think, man,
that's going to be a huge demonstration. It was a
(18:25):
nice demonstration, but it wasn't a huge demonstration. And for them,
basically what they're trying to say is there's a coup
going on in Washington. No, there was an election on
November fifth and and Donald Trump and JD. Vance won,
and they have some ideas about how they would like
to shrink the role of the federal government. That's what
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they're doing.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
And hey, you blame them.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
We have a federal debt of thirty seven trillion dollars.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
I agree with you, Yab, I just can't believe it.
What is going on here? Well it is. It's actually
ninety four days. It'll be many five day tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Well whatever, it's about one hundred days. I think if
the math, if you do the math, today's the fifteenth.
They were twenty five days. Yeah, I'm not going to
argue over the days. Plus it's one hundred days. But
it doesn't matter where were they during the election.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Okay, exactly, good question, very good questions. Then, Ray, all right,
and this is the first time today on night day,
the first time what I have heard this. There is
this demon station there who is not mentioned on the
news tonight on Channel four or five or seven.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, there are some stories about this demonstrat. No no,
no no. I watched the evening news tonight and I
know Channel five carried it on their newscast, and I
think Channel four did as well. I know w b Z.
Did you heard the Madison Rogers piece.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Hey, Chris so I got a scool Okay, you too,
Limits ANDIGND you too.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
There's there is good news. The Red Sox signed Alex Bregman.
So that's that's good news. Okay, thanks, good night. It's
nine thirty. We got Tom coming up on the other side.
Sean and Habel got some room for you. I got
one line at six one, seven, two, five, four, ten
thirty and a couple at six one seven, nine three
one ten thirty. My suspicion is we're going to see
a lot of this, a lot of this. There was
(20:30):
very few. These were the pol This was the hardcore
left that was demonstrating today. This wasn't even the anti
immigration folks per se, this was the hard core left.
These were the people that probably will help Donald Trump's ratings.
I mean, that's the point the Democrats, uh, you know,
(20:50):
for Chuck Schuman to be out there with uh with
a Corona beer, uh and an avocado, and I don't
know if you heard him yet, we will win. I
mean it's normal Democrats right now do not know who
the leaders are. And that's the subject that might take
up on Monday night. We'll be back on night Side
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right after this, after the news at the bottom of
the hour.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
All right, back to the calle for go to go
to Tom in West Virginia. Tom, you were next on Nightside,
Go right ahead, Tom.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Hey, thanks for telling Dan. You know, I think a
lot of a lot of these leftists, a lot of
them are just malcontents that are just in perpetual revelation.
Now I'm I'm a union member, and I can remember
in the eighties and nineties in Boston, organized labor when
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it came to the building trades would really distance themselves
from communists. And I mean that goes back to the
nineteen fifties when the organized purge, the rank and filed,
We got to get the reds out of here.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, I think they still do. There was there was
no one at this demonstration today from any legitimate labor
organization that I could see. I read off the names
of the group's tom they It's like it was like
a compendian and you know radical groups you could find.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Right And you know, if you go back, you know
one hundred years ago, Yeah, you had the industrial Workers
of the world, one big union will rule the world. Well,
you know, we have a capitalist society that has really
brought people from abject poverty into the middle class. And
(22:44):
you know, back when I was a Democrat in the
eighties and I went to the state convention twice nineteen
eighty eight in Springfield when the police had the picket
line and then Walter Brown arena as a delegate both times.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
How does that? How does that relate to what we're
talking about tonight?
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Okay, well, people the high believe about Elon Musk and Trump.
What I'm to do is expose the waste, fraud and abuse,
and progressive should be celebrating that they're not going to
take away your social security, you know. In other words,
(23:26):
I have elderly friends that are just recently got their
social security. They haven't had any issues with that, so
they haven't.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
And when you have the fact, you know, Donald Donald
Trump earlier this week was talking about coming to an
agreement maybe to end the hostilities in Ukraine. Normally the
left in this country wants to see, you know, hostilities ended.
I would think that they'd be celebrating that that, you know,
after after Joe Biden muddling through this situation and giving
(23:59):
Ukraine some military support and withholding some military support, and
they've been grudgingly giving him the military support that they say, gee,
this is interesting. Trump's talking to Putin. Pruton's a bad guy,
but maybe if Trump can get him to back off
Ukraine and stop the killing over there. You would think
that some of these groups, we see that's that's okay,
that's a good thing, but no, they want us.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
That they.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
If we go back twenty years ago, these are the
same people that were calling George Bush a war criminal,
a murderer, and a racist. Okay, when George Bush gave
Michelle Obama at Trump's first inauguration, all of a sudden
he became a responsible Republican. Like I said, these people
(24:49):
are malcontents and there is not a fascist movement going
on in this country.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
The the other thing, the other thing, which I just
want to have a conversation with you. The other thing
which I think is really important today is here. It
is Friday. This is not a holiday. Where do these
people work? I mean, they they're there from noontime, I
guess until one point thirty? Are they working? Do they
have jobs? What are they doing? I mean, how how
(25:17):
are they surviving?
Speaker 5 (25:20):
They're professional protesters, many of.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Them, and then profession At some point next month or
next week, we're going to wake up and be told, well,
traffic has stopped on the Southeast Expressway because people are
out there linking arm and arm and they have their
hands and cement. But you know, that's that's they're going
to go right back to the same place.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
I remember.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Yeah, Well they did that in two thousand and eight,
and in I believe it was Suffolk County, a judge
slapped them on the wrist and congratulated them on their
social justice attitudes. But here's the reality that if they
do do that, and let's say there's a heart attack
(26:06):
patient in an ambulance, it's held up. The public outcry
is going to be no, we want them sentenced to prison.
They can't have these public temper tansions like that. If
they want to have a massive rally on Boston Common,
be my guest. It's a free country, which they did today,
which don't have the today.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
But once, once time, once, once Elon Musk doesn't, you know,
decide that he's going to give up his American citizenship
and move back to South Africa. They won't be satisfied.
And the next thing they're going to be doing is
they are going to be out blocking traffic on ninety three,
on the Expressway wherever they can do that, and there
will be people in ambulances who will be adversely impacted.
(26:48):
I talked to people the last time this happened. There
was one couple who had to abandon their car and
literally run to the exit and then try to flag
down anyone so they could get to the hospital where
I guess the mother was undergoing surgery. The eighty nine
year old mother was going undergoing surgery. There was one
woman there last time, a few years ago, when these
(27:13):
clowns did this. She had two kids in the backseat,
trying to take them to a doctor's office. Both of
them had double ear infections, and anyone who's had kids
knows that when the kids have double air infections, they
are screaming in pain. And this woman was stopped in
dead traffic, and that's that's the position she found herself in.
The demonstrators don't care about those people. They don't care
(27:34):
about people into the ambulances. They just care about their
ability to mess things up for other people.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Yeah. Well, all I can say is be careful what
they wish for, because I will tell you one thing
in my situation, if they see they see my Trump
twenty twenty four sticker on the back of my pickup
truck and they bust my windshield, I can't say what
over the air is gonna happen. No, absolutely, But with
(28:02):
the great imagination, it's the Great Malcolm X. As the
Great Malcolm X once said, I will defend myself by
any means necessary.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
All right, on that point, I'm gonna zero overnight. All right,
Thank you to thanks very much. Talk later. I got
a couple of lines at six, one, seven, nine, three, one,
ten thirty. We will change topics at ten o'clock, so
I give you fear warning. Now. Sean is up next,
followed by Paul. We can probably get you in if
you want to die right away six one seven, two, five,
four to ten thirty or six one seven, nine three
(28:34):
one ten thirty b right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Back to the phones. Let's go to Sean, who is
joining us from haverl Massachusetts. Hey, Sean, welcome, next on Nightside.
Speaker 8 (28:52):
Hey, how are you doing, Dan?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I'm doing great, Thanks for calling in, Sean. What's your
take on what I think will be more more of
these demonstrations.
Speaker 9 (29:03):
I tell you I'm gonna I'm gonna just share this.
To start off with, it must be good to have
time to not go to a job, not being able
to pay, you know, like if you have if you
have a mortgage, you know, taking the time off so
that way you're not earning the money to do that
(29:23):
and protest. I mean, you know, it's crazy. It's crazy,
and you know that when it comes to the last
four years, I'll say, especially with I just want to
throw this out there with us just throwing money at Ukraine,
(29:45):
uh and not asking for anything in return, as well
as US leaving mass full of weapons behind in Afghanistan,
you know, everybody.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Million dollars worth of weapons. I mean, oh.
Speaker 9 (30:03):
Yeah, yeah, you'd think that that would be an investigation
for an impeachment on that front.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
But you know that put it out the the the
president who oversaw that debacle is no longer president. So
that's that is a movie the.
Speaker 9 (30:19):
Lord for that. And Dan, I just want to say
one thing. If you were to, if you were to
scroll through some of the social media posts over the
past couple of months, I'll tell you it just seems
like the people on the left are not paying attention
to what's going on. They think that Elon Musk is
(30:42):
a bad person, you know, all this other stuff. He
doesn't need the money, you know, and he's not getting
paid for helping out Donald Trump and the American people,
you know, and people just aren't getting that, and they I.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Think the far left is so far out of it
is even funny. I'm happy to see them out of
touch because the longer they stay out of the country
will be.
Speaker 9 (31:08):
Yeah, yeah, no, I get it. And it's just like
and the.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Democrats have to figure out. The Democrats have to figure
out who in their ranks is going to lead them
back to reality and whether or not it's Governor Shapiro
in Pennsylvania or Governor Cooper in North Carolina. It's not
going to be AOC and and it's certainly is not
going to be Chuck Schumer. Ernie No, I mean, yeah,
(31:36):
Bernie's just going to age out at some point, that's
for sure. But God loved Bernie. With Bernie, you know,
he's he's been preaching the same doctrine for his entire life.
He is a socialist at his at his core, he's
really a communist. But but he's sworn enough to say, hey,
I'm just a socialist. He's not stupid stupid, and he
(31:57):
also has a whole bunch of properties. He's he's he's
probably one of the wealthiest socialists in this country.
Speaker 9 (32:04):
I wouldn't doubt it.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I wouldn't doubt the politics had been very, very good
to Bernie. If you if you remember the GA Saturday.
Speaker 8 (32:10):
That well, yeah, right.
Speaker 9 (32:13):
One thing I just want to say in closing is
why don't we have term limits on some of these politicians?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
They're making the people that have who's going to vote
the term limits. The po we're asking the politicians to
vote themselves term limits never gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Yeah, that's unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I mean, the presidents of the United States didn't vote
themselves term limits that was imposed by Congress. But they
weren't on term limits on Congress. They were voting on
term limits on the other branch. Gotta go. Sean loved
the calls. Have a great weekend.
Speaker 7 (32:46):
Hey, good get the talk.
Speaker 9 (32:47):
He Dan, call.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Again, Thanks much. Let's go to Paul Paul and Dorchester
Paul next on NIGHTSI goright ahead.
Speaker 7 (32:55):
Hey, Dan, I called make a couple of points. I
got like five or six emails today asking me if
I would like to go to a demonstration in Boston,
and I'm like, no, delete it. And then I got
another one. I'm like, all these different organizations were fishing
for people to go, and I think that this was
(33:17):
organized and by one larger group perhaps, but they were
just empty barrels get together and make a lot of noise.
And that's one thing.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Now.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
Number two is that in my sixty seven years of
dealing with politicians and politics, it's been the goal of
every budget person to make to spend all their money
because if you didn't spend your money, you didn't do
your job, and you couldn't ask for more next year.
And that's the goal for everything. And the other thing
(33:54):
is power is derived from jobs. Okay, you're gonna get
your daughter is getting married. Well, you know your son
in law is going to need a good job. Oh
sixty thousand not enough. Let's make them an executive. They
give out jobs, they put these organizations out there, they
funnel this money out there. It's it's it's almost like
(34:16):
Simon says, and and and and simple Simon says that
change the sea and democrat to end and you got
demon rat and and and that's what we're dealing with.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
There's good democrats. These people are insane in my opinion,
they're not insane.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
They used to be.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
They would like, yeah, they would like to take over
the country and take us down a road towards Cuba
or or communist China. That's where they would like to
get to us, where everybody would be equal, but some
would be more equal than others. That I feel that
I've seen that I got to get a couple more
(34:58):
in Okay, thank you.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
For one last thing, one last thing.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, Paul, what's that.
Speaker 7 (35:05):
Well, Happy Valentine's Day, sweet hut. Let everybody out there.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Right back as thanks man, all right, I got to
try to get two in here. Let me go to
Mike and Arlington and then Bernie in New Hampshire. Mike,
go ahead, I'm gonna get you in along with Bernie.
Speaker 8 (35:17):
Go ahead, Mike, Hi, Dan, great show. Just one point,
there is already another demonstration scheduled on the Boston Common
this Monday, and it's called not My President's Day.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Perfect. How about that. That's good to know that. See
if they start to block traffic, they may not block
traffic because it's a holiday. They're just testing to see
what they can attract at this point. So stay away
from the Common, don't do anything stupid, don't count to demonstrate.
Let them have their demonstration that's which they have every
right they have, and let's see how many people they
(35:50):
can turn out.
Speaker 8 (35:52):
Thanks Dan, good night, Thank you, Mark.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Appreciate the call. Mike, excuse me, thank you, Mike. Let
me go finally wrap it up the hour with Bernie
in New Hampshire. Bernie, welcome back.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
Hey, how are you doing?
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Dan?
Speaker 6 (36:03):
Thank you? I hope you're having a good evening.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I'm having a great evening. Thanks for calling. What's your
take on all of this?
Speaker 6 (36:11):
Well, I remember I consistent. Me and my wife made
a sacrifice that she would say home and race the kids,
and I had a job that I could work as
many hours as I could and I.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
By and by the way, again, how is that son
of yours doing?
Speaker 6 (36:27):
Oh, he's good, doing great, he said, he's doing really well.
He has just the ambling and a forge left and
he's and he said, he's kind of going through it
very easy. But he's put an extra employed so when
he goes to rast training, he's in really good shape.
So he's really enjoying it.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Excellent, next one, please again send him everyone out on
night side our best. We're rooting for him. Uh, young
man just joined the military. Give me I'll give you
a final comment here on this demonstration and what to
look for. Whatever you'd like to say, go right ahead. Bernie.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
Well, I was just like when they did Occupy Boss
that I remember being seven o'clock in the morning driving
to Boston watching these people on tent. So I'm the
Rose Kennedy greet Greenway, like just smoking marijuana or doing
whatever they weren't working, And my buddy says, hey, next
time they have one of these, Berney, why don't we
just not work and go and hang out here and
might do nothing. And it's funny to a point, But
(37:25):
you know what about us, people who chose to work
for a living and do the right thing and try
and just instill all these great qualities that make this
country great.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
For years and years, people like you have not been
appreciated or you've been underappreciated. And for years and years
and years, a lot of people have given all the demonstrators,
let him do this, let him do that, Let them
demonstrate in the common, But when they start to block traffic,
bust them, arrest them and give them some real jail
time for real simple that in my li And that.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
Was the point I was trying to make. Four years ago,
I was working at Mystic Station in Charleston and I
had a heart attack and thank God, like they weren't
doing it that day because I was from Mystic Station
and Charles, somebody arm Court Casino to the to the
mass General will Kadi yak Here unit, which happens to
be one of the best ones in the world. Within
twenty two minutes. Now, if them idiots were blocked in
(38:21):
traffic and I might have had different results. I had
the best box movies out of kids.
Speaker 7 (38:25):
OK, thank god, Yeah we did twenty two minutes.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Again, our best wishes to your son. Keep us posted.
We will talk again. Thanks Bernie, thank you.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
I have a good night.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I we come back. We're going to talk with Kerry
Brett shot at Love. It's gonna be a great hour. Ladies,
this is one that you should pay very close attention to.
Everyone should. We'll be back on Night's ad after this
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