February 28, 2025 • 39 mins
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy met with President Trump and Vice President Vance in the Oval Office where the conversation turned into a fiery exchange. The White House meeting was supposed to focus on a deal over Ukraine’s rare earth minerals but quickly took a turn when VP Vance said the “path to peace between Russia and Ukraine is diplomacy.” The Ukrainian president appeared to not like that statement, challenging Vance and the heated exchange went on from there where at one point Trump called Zelenskyy “disrespectful” telling him he “does not have any cards right now.” We break down this fiery exchange and how it might affect America’s foreign policy.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's with Dan Ray.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm telling you easy Boston's new video.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
We are talking about the Brew Haha. If you will
in the in the Oval office today. Pretty serious event
if you're watching it on television. Never seen anything like
it in my life. I think it was a disaster. Really,
no other way to describe it other than calling it
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for what it was, a simple disaster. And I hope
that somehow it can this situation can be recovered because
I think that the people who really benefit from it
at this point are Russia Putin. I think that it
emboldens him to realize that we're not on the same page,
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to say the least. Okay, let me keep rolling. You're
going to try to get everybody in. People have been
waiting a little while. We'll try to get move it
a little quicker. Mike and Lynn. Mike next on nights.
I go right ahead.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Him said Dan, how are you?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I'm find Michael right ahead. That's a lot of dead air.
That's that's horrible for radio. You're on the air, Go
right ahead. What do you have to.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Say, mister Dan? I gotta tell you this. It's like
I do you know. I like Donald Trump, but he's
a good man. He's a good man because he's going
straight to the point. He does want to cut the
cost forward the country to have. But the things is
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he doesn't want to be involved. He doesn't want to
be involved. He just want to be out of it completely.
I'm not respecting.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
So let me ask you this. Okay, So, so you
you think that today actually we're not as troubled by it,
maybe as I've been. So how does this get back together?
Or does does do Trump and Zelensky never meet again?
Where do you think it goes from here?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
It depends on us to help them to fight Russia.
We don't need to fight Russia. Russia haven't done nothing
against us. We stay out of their business, they say,
our business.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
So therefore, okay, therefore the money and the weaponry that
we have sent uh Ukraine. Uh, that's that's that's just
money down the drain and weapons down.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Said, I gotta tell you this. Look, look at California
people that lost the house. They work all the life,
and then that they get that house burned down, they
want a government to have them.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Okay, fair enough. Sounds we make so much money, so
much money, Mike. It sounds to me like you your
attitude is you're pretty much an isolationist. It sounds to me.
I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but but you
basically America first, worry about what's going on at home
and worry less about the rest of the world.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
No, not only yet. The only thing I'm worry about
is what can we pay? What can we help people?
They live in America, they work all the life.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
That's America. That's America first.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yes, I'll make it come first. So should we get
a budget?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
All right? I appreciate you your point of view, Mike,
Thanks for calling.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Thank you much, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Have a great night. Thank you for calling. Let me
go to Danielle and Worcester. Danielle next on Nightside.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
How are you Dan?
Speaker 6 (03:42):
It's been a minute, goad has.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I hope everything's okay?
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Oh, off air story, So for another till I think
they're good. So, you know, I hate to I know
that you like to see the people be the madic
and professional in a piece, but I think that some
of this just needs to be seen. I think that
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America needs to be confident that we have leaders that
are not going to be pushed aside. They're going to
stand up for what's right. They're going to be assertive.
You can be assertive and not be a jerk, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
So he's delivered very you know, he's he has.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I had less of a problem with his demeanor today
and his presentation that I had with President Trump, and
with President.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Trump he founded more stern to me, but he delivered.
He's just got this way that he can deliver. Change
the tone of his voice and.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Saying I think we're saying the same thing. He's he's
he's trained as a lawyer. He's a pretty smart guy.
He knows how to say.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
We all know that if you get Trump fired up
a little bit, he's trying to crumble at all.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Of a sudden, somehow, some way, Hydro Biden's laptop came
into that conversation today, and I know what's what.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
I mean, he gets Yeah, he kind of just goes off.
But I think that it also speaks to his emotional
attachment to the country. Peg Trump is passionate about America,
he really is, and he wants to protect us. And
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if we're going to give to you, damn it, you've
got to appreciate it. And you don't even thank us.
You're here, you're our guests, you're here in our country,
and you're sitting there like like, what's it? Almost like
you have this expectation, almost like wherely and on One's
didn't even show he was even out humble like nothing.
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And I honestly, let me.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Let me ask you this question. Let me ask you
this question. Are you happy that and this is an
honest question. And you're a you're a loyal caller and listener,
and you're a smart woman. Do you think that this
was good that this played out in front of the
TV cameras or would have had it been better if
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it had played out outside the view of TV cameras well?
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Obviously you want things like this to be behind off camera, right,
I Mean, that's just that's the way, that's the perception,
that's professionalism. However, we have been through living nightmares at
the nightmares of the nightmare for the last four years,
and I think that we need to be assured that
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when someone steps out a line, even if on camera,
we are not going to put on the little goody
two shoes boots and you know, be politically correct and
please the media. Now we're going to tell you, like
it is whether you like it.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Or not, and we ask you another question.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Work can go too far and the cameras you know
what I mean. But I I wouldn't want to see
it like that all the time either, But go aheads.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Here's the other question. I know that people like yourself,
who I respect immensely and who support Donald Trump passionately,
liked what you happen today. Doesn't bother you. And I
know that the people who.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
Discist they liked it. I didn't like it, But somethings
just need to be Here's my question.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Let me get to my question. And the people on
the other side of the divide, the anti Trump people
said this reinforces in their mind that that he's a
bullet of Tiner's China shop or whatever they want to
say it. For the people in the middle who made
the difference in the election last November, do you think
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this is what they wanted to see today or do
you think they were disappointed in what they saw today?
Speaker 6 (07:48):
I think they need to see I think this is
what they want. I think they were so kicked to
the curb and felt so defeated by the previous administration
that this gives a little bit of like, hey, you
know what, they're going to stick up for us. I'm
hello high water. And again, I'm not saying that I
can zone hostile behavior. I'm not saying that I want to.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I'm not suggesting that, you know, I'm just.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
Each other the meeting. I just think if you're gonna
call us off on camera, be prepared, because we're not
just gonna, you know, put on you know apps, This
isn't Hollywood enough, all right, I mean it was, it
was raw, it was real.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
It was it was raw, it was real. I don't
know if it was productive. That's my concern.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
No idea.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
All right, don't be a stranger talk to you so
I won't let me take a quick break. We got
Bill in Pennsylvania. He's next followed by Alan new Hampshire,
got Jim and Joe as well. I get the only
line open in six, one, seven, nine, three thirty. Well
do you I'd like to hear from some people who
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position themselves as maybe in the middle and if this
how they saw this. I know most Trump supporters like it.
I know most Trump detractors at reinf forces in their
mind everything they don't like about Donald Trump. But I'd
love to know, and we'll see what Poles say here
in a few days. Not that you should run your
presidency based on Poles. I'm not suggesting that. But as
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Danielle said, this was raw. This was pretty raw today,
and I wonder how it comes back together. It's like
breaking an egg. Once the egg is broken, it's tough
to put it back together. Back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
Nightside Studios on w b Z the news.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Radio, getting your reaction today to the to the event
in the Oval office, which was amazing for good bad
it was amazing. Bill in Pennsylvania, Bill next on Nightsiger,
right ahead.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
Hey, Dan, I'm just thinking about the young family with
the two children over in UK, and I'm wondering, Uh, okay,
what's going through their mind? Because these are the these
are the people that everybody should really be thinking about,
you know. They they need to get they need to
get peaced so that their children can go up in peace.
(10:16):
Now what happened today?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
All right?
Speaker 7 (10:20):
I almost can guarantee, okay that by the end of
March this will be history. And uh I think, uh,
I think that, uh, we know one thing about Trump
all right, he doesn't hold grudges.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
You know, look at he's got Rubio for his secretary
of fate. He's got uh.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I think I think he's hold the grudge with Biden.
I think he's hold the grudge with the fifty one
spy masters who who signed that petition there was about that. Yeah,
why do you why do you think all the Biden
Hunter Biden, Joe Biden stuff bubbled up today?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Well?
Speaker 7 (11:04):
No, no, no, it's on his mind and he's going
to take care of that because, like I said before,
the raids are about to start any week now. Well,
all right, they're gonna have some raids as far as Ukraine, okay.
And and so I'm wondering what that young family with
a couple of children, you know, with the whole future
ahead of them, what are they thinking?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
And they're thinking, I mean they could be thinking. Here's
what they could be thinking. They could be thinking, we
just have lost our only hope to survive. And and
the Russians now are going to be able to come across.
And because we're going to run out of AMMO, we're
going to run out of weapons, biggest supporters are going
to desert us and we better get that that that
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that Russian Ukrainian dictionary that that we haven't bought yet,
that we might be speaking what what what?
Speaker 7 (11:54):
What are I think it's gonna by the end of March,
like I said, it's gonna be, it's going to be patched.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
And so how does Zelenski come back with the tail
between his legs? Does uh Marco Rubil?
Speaker 7 (12:09):
No?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
I don't think he'll have to come back with a
tail behind between his legs. And and I think that that
they'll they'll accommodate him one way or the other because
Trump wants to h he wants to get this war
over with. You know, for years and years, Dan, all
we heard about was endless wars. We went out of
endless wars.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Absolutely, yes, absolutely, yeah. Normally during my lifetime, it's normally
Democrats who have been who have started been at the
in power when the war started, but eventually they turned
against it. Vietnam started under Kennedy and Johnson and uh
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and then people were marching in the streets nine to
eleven's well Bush started that. But you know it was
you know, how many kids if you killed today? So, yeah,
is this kind of a reversal. We got Trump now
it's kind of isolationism coming back, you know. All right, well,
we'll see. I'm trying to get as many in as
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I can tonight, Bill, so everybody's got to get shortened
a little bit here. Thank you much, appreciate it so much.
Next up, let me go to Jim. Jim, youre next
on Nightsager.
Speaker 8 (13:18):
Right ahead, Jim Dan Hey, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
You welcome, appreciate your patience.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Go go ahead, how are you?
Speaker 8 (13:27):
Well? Okay, here's what i have to say about this specifically,
and I'll.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Stay all right.
Speaker 8 (13:33):
Please don't you can interrupt me, but please just let
me say what I have to say and I'll stay
on topic. Okay. First of all, I think that a
lot of the people that have called in so far
or just did not listen to the full audio that
you just played, because the full audio that you just
played to me makes it very clear what happened. And
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the other legacy news outlets have a version of that
audio that's edited that makes it sound like jd Vance
provoked it, and that's what they've been saying all day long,
that jd Vance provoked it. But it's obvious to me
that he did not prove. I don't think he provoked it.
I think what happened was that Zolensky came in there
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thinking that he was going to be allowed to bloviate
the way that he did when what's his name was
in there and he and apparently that wasn't that he
wasn't going to be allowed to do that. But I
think if Donald was the negotiator that he claims to be,
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the thing to do would have been just let him
go ahead, and let him go ahead and bloviate, and
when he gets all done, just say to him, look,
do you want this deal or not? And if he
says anything except for yes, you take the deal and
walk out of the room. If he says yes, the parent.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Let me ask you, this is that the way to
treat someone who is uh fighting the Russians and has
fought the Russians pretty heroically for three years.
Speaker 8 (15:09):
Yeah, at this point when you when you get down
to brass hacks, when when you're in a room for
the whole world, let.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Me ask another question. Do you I got your answer?
Do you think that that that conversation would have been
more effectively uh completed out of the sight of cameras,
or do you think it's good that that we sort
of showed all the dirty laundry that exists between US
and Ukraine and full view.
Speaker 8 (15:39):
It's okay, it's okay that that it was in full view.
But I don't, I don't. I think Trump and Advance
did themselves a disservice by by by fighting, by by
talking back. They should have just let them go on.
And when you get that's that's the way sales is.
People people get when you get people.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I got it. You said you said that to me,
and I heard that, and they audi turned it. So
my question to you is this, how does this situation
resolve itself? Do you think that this is the end
and that Zolensky goes his way and and and he
continues to fight for as long as he can, or
do you think they they come back and rework the deal?
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What's your thought?
Speaker 8 (16:28):
I think that Violensky has seen the end of the
road as the leader of Ukrainia. Yeah, I think that
you need to get somebody else in there or else
just go without him. And you know they need to
sign that deal. What's the big deal? Sign the deal?
You lost? Okay, that's it?
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Well, that's what Trump's saying. To what Trump is saying,
the only way you can survive. He says, if you
sign this deal and we have an economic interest the
United States in the ground in your country, that will
immunize you against Russia coming in. Now, this is step one.
Step two would be trying to arrange some form of
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a cessation of the hostilities so that they could talk
about a potential peace treaty in order to get to
a peace, which is where apparently Selinsky wants to get.
You got to have a cease fire first, you can
have you can have a peace treaty while people are
firing bullets at each other. And I don't think that's
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what's the weakness in Zelensky's argument. He's basically saying, I
heard him saying that that that Putin signed treaties before
and broke the treaties. Therefore, why should I sign a
treaty with Putin again. If you take that position, you
then are saying to us, we need you, and we
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need you to be with us, or else it's all
for naught. And I don't think Donald Trump is buying
that argument.
Speaker 8 (18:08):
I understand all that, but I think that was all
been talked out previous to this, and then this guy
was trying to bat pedal on it, which, like I say,
when you get people right to the altar and you're
trying to close on them, that's what they'll do.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
It bark. Okay, I hope that is not.
Speaker 8 (18:25):
I hope that they get when they get all done,
when they get all done, bar do you.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Want to I'm going to let you go because I'm
up in my news and you were able to get
six and a half minutes, which was more than just
about anyone else this hour did. And I appreciate your conversation.
It was a good one. Thank you, sir. Have a
great night. We'll be back. The only line is open
is the one Jim just left. Six one, seven, nine, three, one,
ten thirty. Be back right after the just filled. You
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gotta be quick, folks. We'll be back right after this,
and we will, I'm sure take this all the way
to midnight. So if you're not getting in, trust me,
stay with us. We'll be back after this. Night Side.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Okay, I'm gonna go to al Up in New Hampshire.
IL appreciate your patience. Next on Nightside, I'll go right ahead.
Speaker 9 (19:14):
Thanks Dan, I'll be quick. First of all, I think
there was a gentleman earlier that spoke about the the
human toll. Over a million people have died, both on
both sides, the Russians and the Ukrainian hearings. I was
just reading an article on the on the Wall Street Journal.
Over a million people. It's unbelievable. And when you know
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the the only challenge, the only disrespect I feel is
that if I came to your house to have dinner
and we maybe had a difficult conversation and your family
was there, I wouldn't disrespect you. I would say, you
know what, mister Ray, can we can we talk about
this tomorrow or talk about it later. I mean, you
saw unfortunately that that that just happened. If someone had
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just a sense of decorum and regardless, we and said,
you know what, miss president, thank you so much, you know,
can we take this We'll talk about this later.
Speaker 10 (20:04):
But you saw him.
Speaker 9 (20:05):
He saw him earlier, the Ukrainian president go after one
of the news reporters who asked him about his suit
and said, how come you don't dress in a suit,
and he was very condescending to the reporter.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
So it's almost like I did that?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Did that happen today? Or no?
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Yes.
Speaker 9 (20:23):
So one of the questions before this all happened, A
a reporter asked him in the White House, and I
saw the whole thing was forty minutes long. He said, hey,
can you please explain, you know, you're always dressed in
that kind of fatigues Why is there a reason you
don't dress in a suit? And Zelensky said, look at
if I want to be I'm paraphrasing here, I'm not
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saying exactly if I want to, you know, dress in
a cheap suit, you know, I would look like you.
It was really I was like, wow, but I heard that,
and I noticed that something was off for the whole day.
So once again I'll be quiet and let you, you know,
speak to it. But I just think if I come
to your house, and even if I'm having a challenge,
and especially in front of your family, I say, mister Ray,
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I'm really sorry. Can we talk about this?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
But it kind of goes both ways in the sense
that that President Trump had invited Zelenski to come here.
So Trump is the host, Zelensky is the guest, and
I get it. I get it. I do think that
that they the White House should have been small enough
to say, look, if we open this up to the
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press pool, god knows where it goes. Our purpose is
to get him here to sign this document.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
And it's almost like if you're buying a piece of
real estate, the first thing you have to sign is
you've got to get an offer sheet signed. Do you
know what I'm saying? Okay, so you signed the offer sheet, uh,
and then you you you have a purchase and sale agreement. Well,
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you're really not on the hook for the offer sheet
unless it's traditional. Offer sheet is just the first sign
of yeah, I'd like to buy your house, and then
the lawyers put together or the real estate people put
together the purchase and sale agreement, which once you signed
the purchase sale agreement, then you kind of like the
fish on the hook, if you know what I'm saying.
I just that's my thought on it. I just thought
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it was a disastrous time.
Speaker 9 (22:24):
I don't disagree with you, But don't you think that
that they wouldn't have invited him to the White House
unless that was a done deal. I don't think that
Trump or anyone else would have any any president would
invite someone to the White House to sign something that
wasn't already agreed to.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
I agree with you, and that points out bad staff work.
In other words, they should have said, they should have known.
They should have said, look are you you're going to
fly to Washington, going to go to the White House.
We don't want to embarrass you. We don't want to
be embarrassed. They should have been complete and totally agreement there,
and then they should have avoided opening up that conversation
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of it was poorly It was poor staff work, is
what I'm trying to say. Okay, and President Trump should
have been smart enough and sophisticated enough because he's been
president before. And basically when the when the questions started
to get maybe even that question about the suit. You know,
if someone was at the house and you came showed
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and you showed up, were in kind of a different
type of suit, and someone said, hey, hew, we'll help
you buy that suit. You know, as the host, I
would have said to the person, Hey, we're here to
have dinner. Okay, I'm not gonna comment on what you're wearing.
You look great, don't get me wrong. You don't you know,
you would have interjected something there wouldn't you under those circumstances.
Speaker 9 (23:51):
I would, But there was something off in other words,
I mean I don't know, and you don't know that
perhaps there was already you know, just as he said,
Putin didn't agree to things. Maybe he didn't agree to things.
I mean, we have to have brought him.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
To the water never should have brought him to the
White House.
Speaker 9 (24:08):
But I'm saying is sometimes you say I'm going to
do it, but you show up. You know, he's not
popular in his country. There's been no walk coverage. There's
so many things that are different here than all other times.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Someone else talking about being Jim from mentioned of being
stood up at the altar. Every once in a while
you have someone who doesn't show up for a wedding.
You know that. Okay, they got cold feet. Maybe he
got cold feet. Well, I gotta fly here. I'm I'm
running up a lot of time and a lot of people.
I gonna let you go. Okay, thanks man, thank you.
Let go to Joe and Belmont. Joe, you gotta be
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quick for me. How are you? And I want to
get you in here before the break?
Speaker 11 (24:46):
Dan.
Speaker 12 (24:46):
I think Trump should let h Russia the next Ukraine,
so it'll be for the big picture of world peace.
But I can't prove that Putin won't attack Finland or
Poland or the other countries. But that's what my tuition
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tells me that.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Okay, So let's say, let's assume we say, okay, give him,
give them Ukraine. Who cares about Ukraine? Are there any
other countries that will let him attack?
Speaker 12 (25:19):
I don't know, but I think, you know, giving them Ukraine,
I think the big picture of world pieces.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I got to get it. So if all of a
sudden he decides that he wants to take out that
he'd like Estonia, Latia or Lithuania. I've never been to
those countries. We can sacrifice those countries too, don't you think.
Speaker 12 (25:39):
No, I don't think we should. I think we should
draw the line, but I can't prove it.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah, okay, well, yeah, I mean I think that I
think would like to put the old Soviet Empire back together.
He said that, he said the greatest tragedy of the
twentieth century was the solution of the Soviet Empire.
Speaker 12 (26:03):
But you know, Dan, I don't believe everything I see
on TV, radio and in the press.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Oh that's what he said. I mean that's what Putin.
I've seen Putin say that. That's Putin's view of the world.
Speaker 12 (26:15):
Okay, do you think we should give NATO over to
the European Do we really need NATO? Now?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
You know, I think the North Atlantic Treaty organization has
served us well. Uh. And I'd like to see the
NATO countries in Europe pay more. And I think that
we could cut back a little bit. But I don't
want to leave allies. I mean, we have some very
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strong allies. Germany's a strong ally, Britain's a strong ally, France, Spain, Portugal, Italy.
Those are all countries that are US allies. Yeah. I
hear you, I hear you. I disagree with you, Joe,
but I respect your opinion.
Speaker 12 (27:02):
Okay, Dan, Like I said two years ago, it takes
a wise group of people who went to be the
policeman of the world.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
I remember that. As a matter of fact, I wrote
that down two years ago. I had that on my
desk right here. Joe, thank you very much for reminding me.
Speaker 12 (27:18):
Thanks for taking my call. Dean, You're a great man.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Have a great night, Joe. Right back at you. Let's
go to Kennon Waltham. Ken I gotta get you in
hit for the break at the quarter of the hour,
I can welcome.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
Thanks Dan. Yeah, I think you know the million people
who've died, and the fact that Russia has occupied twenty
percent of the country right now, you know the equivalent
of all the Atlantic states from Massachusetts to Florida, and
all the atrocities, including the thousands of children they've abducted.
I don't think of Volensky's really interested in laying down
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arms anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Well, the problem. The other thing is he's pretty soon
not going to have any arms to lay down. That's
the dilemma.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Well, Europe is already talking about stepping up more after today.
But it's a problem. We have a big problem, That's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah, you know, it's like, you know, if if if
you're getting beat up on the way to school and
one of the older kids in school steps up for
you and says to the bully, hey, you've got to
deal with me, then you're okay. But when when that
kid moves away and he tells you you, I'm really sorry,
(28:30):
but my parents are taken us to Florida, you better
find another friend.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
That's what I'm trying yeah, yeah, Well, you know, I
think since the invasion and since Biden left office, Russia
has been weaker and weaker and weaker. But since Trump
came in, I would say, from Soelensky's point of view,
he's he's seeing a path and now where Russia is
just going to get stronger.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
And I think there's bad blood between Trump and Olensky.
I think it goes back to that phone call, the
perfect phone call that Trump held Corselinsky which ended up
in him being indicted, you know. And I just thought
Trump today to go to Hunter Biden and Joe Biden
and all of that stuff, the fifty one spymasters who
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tried to take him out unfairly in twenty twenty. You
won the election, You're the president of the United States.
Let's put that in the rear view mirror for now,
save it for the book. In my opinion, it just
is always in the forefront.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Of his mind, you know, just to totally hit you
with a curve ball here. I think the real loser
today was Taiwan. Yes, yes, who's going to come to
their aid?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
And that's that's a really interesting point. No one else
has made that point. And I agree with you on that,
I think that you're becoming you know, packs Americana again.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
I think the best we can do if we you know,
I think I think Selensky and the Ukrainians are going
to fight potentially anyway, many many more deaths on both sides.
But if we support them and do that, that could
stop maybe China from invading Taiwans. But right now, it
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my concern is that you know, China's going to say, hey,
the time to do it is when Trump is president.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Well maybe not, because I think it's more of the
policies that that he is exhibited here, which is unwilling
to back away from exactly. But I think it's I
think it's just I think it's bad blood. I think
he thinks down deep that that phone call caused caused
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him to be impeached, that impeachment, the two impeachments cost
him his re election. He doesn't like Biden, the Biden family. Uh,
and it just keeps bubbling up. I don't know, Ken,
I got to let you go, got to run here.
Thank you much, appreciate you, thank you again.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Appreciate it much.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
All right, back on Nightside run after this.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Now, back to Dan Ray Live from the window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
You're gonna try to get three any for the news
so people don't have to wait through the news. Let
me go to Dan and acting Danny and actin next
on Nightside, Dan, go right ahead.
Speaker 11 (31:20):
I was just thinking, I'm hope China helped Ukraine if
the United States is not gonna help them, because this
just left the door open for China.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
I don't think so. I don't think China's gonna get
into a disagreement with Putin. I mean if I don't
think to Lensky would trust China. I understand the point
you're making right now. You've got North Korean troops in
there fighting with Russia, so you're gonna have China troops
China coming in going after North Korea. Just a thought.
I don't know what do you think.
Speaker 8 (31:49):
I think it is.
Speaker 11 (31:50):
It opened the door like it did in Vietnam. It's
just opening the door for They're not not even considering
China in this scenario at all. I thought the president
was very rude, and I thought Zelenski he has English,
has his second language, so he has to try to
interpret it while speaking in front of a press box,
that's very hot, very very well.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
No, that's an excellent point. I mean, obviously English is
not his first language. Uh, and that's difficult. Oftentimes they
could if they were in behind closed doors, they could
have been using an interpreter. That probably was a mistake
as well. I mean his English is yeah, I mean
that that. Those are two points that no one else
has made. Dan and uh, and those are good. Those
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are two good ones. Frankly up on the points on
the board for Dan from.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Acting, Oh wow, thank you.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Have a good night, you too, Dan, have a great weekend.
March is about an hour and ten minutes away. Thanks,
We're gonna be We're gonna be okay, thank you much.
All right, let me get who can I get here quickly?
Let me go to Donna in framing him. Donna gotta
be quick for of me here. We're getting tight on time,
Go right, head, Donna.
Speaker 10 (32:54):
Okay, I'm not gonna repeat what other people have said then,
like Taiwan and all that stuff. You know what i'd like,
dam First of all, I'm seizing about this whole thing.
But why doesn't Trump release the audio of his conversation
with Vladimir Putin?
Speaker 3 (33:12):
You mean from twenty nineteen.
Speaker 10 (33:15):
No from recent times, hasn't he claimed that he's talked
to Pultin lightly?
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Oh yeah, I thought was I thought you were referring
to Zelensky. I'm sorry, No, no, no, no, no, no,
I misheard. No, that was my mistake.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
First of all, first of all, why would he release it.
Speaker 10 (33:37):
To show fair play so we can find out what
he said to Pultin, just like we johned out what
he said to Zolensky today?
Speaker 3 (33:44):
First time, Well, we found out what he said to
Zelensky in an Oval office meeting. I don't know that
too many presidents have gone and had a conversation with
a leader, particularly the leader of Russia, and then independently
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released that conversation.
Speaker 10 (34:06):
I think to know what they said to each other.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Well, I'd like to know probably a lot of things,
but I don't know that I want those things released public.
Speaker 10 (34:18):
I guess I'm not making my point. We heard his
conversation with a Lensky today, so why don't we get
to hear what he talked about with well differ.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
The difference is today today was a public conversation, which
which Zelinsky accepted At any point, Zelensky could have said,
mister President, I think we should move our conversation into
a more private setting. He could have said that at
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any point, in terms of coming back to your point, Donna,
when he had the conversation with Putin, I'm sure that
Putin assumed that that was a private conversation, and I
kind of imagined that Donald Trump said, Hey, Vladimir, we're
gonna have a pretty good conversation. I just want you
to know up front that I'm going to release the
(35:11):
conversation at some point in the next few weeks. That
I assume that's okay with you. What do you think
Putin would have said?
Speaker 10 (35:20):
That's not my point. My point is we got to heart.
Let me give me one more thing. Please, If you don't, you.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Gotta be quick, because we've we've said the same thing
three times.
Speaker 10 (35:35):
Nobody's nobody's talked about returning the Ukrainian children that have
been kidnapped from by Russia.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Yeah, that would be part of a piece of a
ceasefire and a peace treaty negotiation. A couple of other
callers had talked about the horrible thing that that Ukrainian
children were kidnapped by Russia. Good points, Thank you, Donna
as all. I appreciate it. Okay, thank you talking, so
good night. Let me get there, Glenn, Glenn, you gotta
(36:05):
be quick for me. You got to get you in
before the eleven. Go right ahead.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah. I was born an isolationist and I'll die in isolationists,
and I'll never apologize for that. I agree with Danielle
for Worcester. If you're going to put this stuff on
camera and be prepared for drama. Also, Donald Trump's are
kind of sport than I am. I would have said
that Dad was elected. You guys are on your own.
(36:29):
He's Olenski. You try the patients of a scene. I'm
no scene, so be careful.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Yeah, okay, that's really good. Let me ask you this,
if you going to die, if you were born in
the nineteen twenties, then when Hitler was roaming around Europe,
would have you also been an isolationist?
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Now World War two we had, we would drag kicking
and screaming into World War two because approve Harbor and
it got congressional approval, and you know, except Jenny Rankin.
But I mean, you know what I'm saying. I understand
War War two, but I'm saying since World War II.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
But what I'm saying is you still even though even
though we were attacked, you could have you could have
still been an isolationist. There were a lot of people
who were isolationists in the nineteen thirties, and matter of fact,
there's probably more reason to be an isolationist in the
nineteen thirties from a point of view of geographic geography.
For any of these countries to come hit us in
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the homeland, they would have to come across the Pacific
or the Atlantic. Today it's a much smaller world. I
don't know. I don't know that isolationism served us well
in advance of World War Two. I don't I don't
think it served the Jewish people who were being slaughtered
in Germany and concentration camps appreciated us being isolationists. I
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don't think the people who were on the USS Saint
Louis that were turned away at Ellis Island appreciate us
being isolationists. I don't think the British who's who were
who suffered under the Blitzkrieg for a couple of years
before we actually got into the fight, appreciated its being isolation.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Oh, you're going back the long way, which is fine.
I just I don't know. I just think that you know,
I take all the money we gave Ukraine and went
down to doing the new DEAILI hamper. You know, we
got a new sheriff in town. And you know I
got you.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
I got you, and I know that you're a Trump supporter.
So you feel that that worked out today real quickly, Glenn,
how do you feel this gets resolved? Or is this
the last meeting that Trump and Zolensky have when Zolensky
goes and tries to work with Europe and fight Russia
and never the twains shall meet.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Well, I don't know what's going to happen after today,
but today maybe the maybe the last store in terms
of I mean Trump started out trying to make peace
between those two.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Okay, all right, I got you in, and I got
you in before the eleven. But I gotta let you
go because here comes the eleven. I know, thank you, Glenn,
appreciate it. Uh. I suspect we're not going to do
a twentyth hour uh that we are going to continue
with this conversation. If you're on the line, stay there.
If you're not the only line that's open is six
point seven too, Well, that's just filled. We have Jennet
(39:10):
from Brockton's next, followed by Bob in California and Steven
New Jersey. We gotta get you all in sandri and
Cover get you all in coming back after night sid
It's with Dan Ray.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm telling you easy Boston's new video.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
We are talking about the Brew Haha. If you will
in the in the Oval office today. Pretty serious event
if you're watching it on television. Never seen anything like
it in my life. I think it was a disaster. Really,
no other way to describe it other than calling it
(00:27):
for what it was, a simple disaster. And I hope
that somehow it can this situation can be recovered because
I think that the people who really benefit from it
at this point are Russia Putin. I think that it
emboldens him to realize that we're not on the same page,
(00:48):
to say the least. Okay, let me keep rolling. You're
going to try to get everybody in. People have been
waiting a little while. We'll try to get move it
a little quicker. Mike and Lynn. Mike next on nights.
I go right ahead.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Him said Dan, how are you?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I'm find Michael right ahead. That's a lot of dead air.
That's that's horrible for radio. You're on the air, Go
right ahead. What do you have to.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Say, mister Dan? I gotta tell you this. It's like
I do you know. I like Donald Trump, but he's
a good man. He's a good man because he's going
straight to the point. He does want to cut the
cost forward the country to have. But the things is
(01:35):
he doesn't want to be involved. He doesn't want to
be involved. He just want to be out of it completely.
I'm not respecting.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
So let me ask you this. Okay, So, so you
you think that today actually we're not as troubled by it,
maybe as I've been. So how does this get back together?
Or does does do Trump and Zelensky never meet again?
Where do you think it goes from here?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
It depends on us to help them to fight Russia.
We don't need to fight Russia. Russia haven't done nothing
against us. We stay out of their business, they say,
our business.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
So therefore, okay, therefore the money and the weaponry that
we have sent uh Ukraine. Uh, that's that's that's just
money down the drain and weapons down.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Said, I gotta tell you this. Look, look at California
people that lost the house. They work all the life,
and then that they get that house burned down, they
want a government to have them.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Okay, fair enough. Sounds we make so much money, so
much money, Mike. It sounds to me like you your
attitude is you're pretty much an isolationist. It sounds to me.
I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but but you
basically America first, worry about what's going on at home
and worry less about the rest of the world.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
No, not only yet. The only thing I'm worry about
is what can we pay? What can we help people?
They live in America, they work all the life.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
That's America. That's America first.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yes, I'll make it come first. So should we get
a budget?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
All right? I appreciate you your point of view, Mike,
Thanks for calling.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Thank you much, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Have a great night. Thank you for calling. Let me
go to Danielle and Worcester. Danielle next on Nightside.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
How are you Dan?
Speaker 6 (03:42):
It's been a minute, goad has.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I hope everything's okay?
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Oh, off air story, So for another till I think
they're good. So, you know, I hate to I know
that you like to see the people be the madic
and professional in a piece, but I think that some
of this just needs to be seen. I think that
(04:07):
America needs to be confident that we have leaders that
are not going to be pushed aside. They're going to
stand up for what's right. They're going to be assertive.
You can be assertive and not be a jerk, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
So he's delivered very you know, he's he has.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I had less of a problem with his demeanor today
and his presentation that I had with President Trump, and
with President.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Trump he founded more stern to me, but he delivered.
He's just got this way that he can deliver. Change
the tone of his voice and.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Saying I think we're saying the same thing. He's he's
he's trained as a lawyer. He's a pretty smart guy.
He knows how to say.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
We all know that if you get Trump fired up
a little bit, he's trying to crumble at all.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Of a sudden, somehow, some way, Hydro Biden's laptop came
into that conversation today, and I know what's what.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
I mean, he gets Yeah, he kind of just goes off.
But I think that it also speaks to his emotional
attachment to the country. Peg Trump is passionate about America,
he really is, and he wants to protect us. And
(05:21):
if we're going to give to you, damn it, you've
got to appreciate it. And you don't even thank us.
You're here, you're our guests, you're here in our country,
and you're sitting there like like, what's it? Almost like
you have this expectation, almost like wherely and on One's
didn't even show he was even out humble like nothing.
(05:43):
And I honestly, let me.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Let me ask you this question. Let me ask you
this question. Are you happy that and this is an
honest question. And you're a you're a loyal caller and listener,
and you're a smart woman. Do you think that this
was good that this played out in front of the
TV cameras or would have had it been better if
(06:07):
it had played out outside the view of TV cameras well?
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Obviously you want things like this to be behind off camera, right,
I Mean, that's just that's the way, that's the perception,
that's professionalism. However, we have been through living nightmares at
the nightmares of the nightmare for the last four years,
and I think that we need to be assured that
(06:35):
when someone steps out a line, even if on camera,
we are not going to put on the little goody
two shoes boots and you know, be politically correct and
please the media. Now we're going to tell you, like
it is whether you like it.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Or not, and we ask you another question.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Work can go too far and the cameras you know
what I mean. But I I wouldn't want to see
it like that all the time either, But go aheads.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Here's the other question. I know that people like yourself,
who I respect immensely and who support Donald Trump passionately,
liked what you happen today. Doesn't bother you. And I
know that the people who.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
Discist they liked it. I didn't like it, But somethings
just need to be Here's my question.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Let me get to my question. And the people on
the other side of the divide, the anti Trump people
said this reinforces in their mind that that he's a
bullet of Tiner's China shop or whatever they want to
say it. For the people in the middle who made
the difference in the election last November, do you think
(07:41):
this is what they wanted to see today or do
you think they were disappointed in what they saw today?
Speaker 6 (07:48):
I think they need to see I think this is
what they want. I think they were so kicked to
the curb and felt so defeated by the previous administration
that this gives a little bit of like, hey, you
know what, they're going to stick up for us. I'm
hello high water. And again, I'm not saying that I
can zone hostile behavior. I'm not saying that I want to.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I'm not suggesting that, you know, I'm just.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
Each other the meeting. I just think if you're gonna
call us off on camera, be prepared, because we're not
just gonna, you know, put on you know apps, This
isn't Hollywood enough, all right, I mean it was, it
was raw, it was real.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
It was it was raw, it was real. I don't
know if it was productive. That's my concern.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
No idea.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
All right, don't be a stranger talk to you so
I won't let me take a quick break. We got
Bill in Pennsylvania. He's next followed by Alan new Hampshire,
got Jim and Joe as well. I get the only
line open in six, one, seven, nine, three thirty. Well
do you I'd like to hear from some people who
(08:50):
position themselves as maybe in the middle and if this
how they saw this. I know most Trump supporters like it.
I know most Trump detractors at reinf forces in their
mind everything they don't like about Donald Trump. But I'd
love to know, and we'll see what Poles say here
in a few days. Not that you should run your
presidency based on Poles. I'm not suggesting that. But as
(09:13):
Danielle said, this was raw. This was pretty raw today,
and I wonder how it comes back together. It's like
breaking an egg. Once the egg is broken, it's tough
to put it back together. Back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
Nightside Studios on w b Z the news.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Radio, getting your reaction today to the to the event
in the Oval office, which was amazing for good bad
it was amazing. Bill in Pennsylvania, Bill next on Nightsiger,
right ahead.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
Hey, Dan, I'm just thinking about the young family with
the two children over in UK, and I'm wondering, Uh, okay,
what's going through their mind? Because these are the these
are the people that everybody should really be thinking about,
you know. They they need to get they need to
get peaced so that their children can go up in peace.
(10:16):
Now what happened today?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
All right?
Speaker 7 (10:20):
I almost can guarantee, okay that by the end of
March this will be history. And uh I think, uh,
I think that, uh, we know one thing about Trump
all right, he doesn't hold grudges.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
You know, look at he's got Rubio for his secretary
of fate. He's got uh.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I think I think he's hold the grudge with Biden.
I think he's hold the grudge with the fifty one
spy masters who who signed that petition there was about that. Yeah,
why do you why do you think all the Biden
Hunter Biden, Joe Biden stuff bubbled up today?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Well?
Speaker 7 (11:04):
No, no, no, it's on his mind and he's going
to take care of that because, like I said before,
the raids are about to start any week now. Well,
all right, they're gonna have some raids as far as Ukraine, okay.
And and so I'm wondering what that young family with
a couple of children, you know, with the whole future
ahead of them, what are they thinking?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
And they're thinking, I mean they could be thinking. Here's
what they could be thinking. They could be thinking, we
just have lost our only hope to survive. And and
the Russians now are going to be able to come across.
And because we're going to run out of AMMO, we're
going to run out of weapons, biggest supporters are going
to desert us and we better get that that that
(11:47):
that Russian Ukrainian dictionary that that we haven't bought yet,
that we might be speaking what what what?
Speaker 7 (11:54):
What are I think it's gonna by the end of March,
like I said, it's gonna be, it's going to be patched.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
And so how does Zelenski come back with the tail
between his legs? Does uh Marco Rubil?
Speaker 7 (12:09):
No?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
I don't think he'll have to come back with a
tail behind between his legs. And and I think that that
they'll they'll accommodate him one way or the other because
Trump wants to h he wants to get this war
over with. You know, for years and years, Dan, all
we heard about was endless wars. We went out of
endless wars.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Absolutely, yes, absolutely, yeah. Normally during my lifetime, it's normally
Democrats who have been who have started been at the
in power when the war started, but eventually they turned
against it. Vietnam started under Kennedy and Johnson and uh
(12:49):
and then people were marching in the streets nine to
eleven's well Bush started that. But you know it was
you know, how many kids if you killed today? So, yeah,
is this kind of a reversal. We got Trump now
it's kind of isolationism coming back, you know. All right, well,
we'll see. I'm trying to get as many in as
(13:10):
I can tonight, Bill, so everybody's got to get shortened
a little bit here. Thank you much, appreciate it so much.
Next up, let me go to Jim. Jim, youre next
on Nightsager.
Speaker 8 (13:18):
Right ahead, Jim Dan Hey, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
You welcome, appreciate your patience.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Go go ahead, how are you?
Speaker 8 (13:27):
Well? Okay, here's what i have to say about this specifically,
and I'll.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Stay all right.
Speaker 8 (13:33):
Please don't you can interrupt me, but please just let
me say what I have to say and I'll stay
on topic. Okay. First of all, I think that a
lot of the people that have called in so far
or just did not listen to the full audio that
you just played, because the full audio that you just
played to me makes it very clear what happened. And
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the other legacy news outlets have a version of that
audio that's edited that makes it sound like jd Vance
provoked it, and that's what they've been saying all day long,
that jd Vance provoked it. But it's obvious to me
that he did not prove. I don't think he provoked it.
I think what happened was that Zolensky came in there
(14:17):
thinking that he was going to be allowed to bloviate
the way that he did when what's his name was
in there and he and apparently that wasn't that he
wasn't going to be allowed to do that. But I
think if Donald was the negotiator that he claims to be,
(14:39):
the thing to do would have been just let him
go ahead, and let him go ahead and bloviate, and
when he gets all done, just say to him, look,
do you want this deal or not? And if he
says anything except for yes, you take the deal and
walk out of the room. If he says yes, the parent.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Let me ask you, this is that the way to
treat someone who is uh fighting the Russians and has
fought the Russians pretty heroically for three years.
Speaker 8 (15:09):
Yeah, at this point when you when you get down
to brass hacks, when when you're in a room for
the whole world, let.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Me ask another question. Do you I got your answer?
Do you think that that that conversation would have been
more effectively uh completed out of the sight of cameras,
or do you think it's good that that we sort
of showed all the dirty laundry that exists between US
and Ukraine and full view.
Speaker 8 (15:39):
It's okay, it's okay that that it was in full view.
But I don't, I don't. I think Trump and Advance
did themselves a disservice by by by fighting, by by
talking back. They should have just let them go on.
And when you get that's that's the way sales is.
People people get when you get people.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I got it. You said you said that to me,
and I heard that, and they audi turned it. So
my question to you is this, how does this situation
resolve itself? Do you think that this is the end
and that Zolensky goes his way and and and he
continues to fight for as long as he can, or
do you think they they come back and rework the deal?
(16:23):
What's your thought?
Speaker 8 (16:28):
I think that Violensky has seen the end of the
road as the leader of Ukrainia. Yeah, I think that
you need to get somebody else in there or else
just go without him. And you know they need to
sign that deal. What's the big deal? Sign the deal?
You lost? Okay, that's it?
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Well, that's what Trump's saying. To what Trump is saying,
the only way you can survive. He says, if you
sign this deal and we have an economic interest the
United States in the ground in your country, that will
immunize you against Russia coming in. Now, this is step one.
Step two would be trying to arrange some form of
(17:16):
a cessation of the hostilities so that they could talk
about a potential peace treaty in order to get to
a peace, which is where apparently Selinsky wants to get.
You got to have a cease fire first, you can
have you can have a peace treaty while people are
firing bullets at each other. And I don't think that's
(17:38):
what's the weakness in Zelensky's argument. He's basically saying, I
heard him saying that that that Putin signed treaties before
and broke the treaties. Therefore, why should I sign a
treaty with Putin again. If you take that position, you
then are saying to us, we need you, and we
(17:59):
need you to be with us, or else it's all
for naught. And I don't think Donald Trump is buying
that argument.
Speaker 8 (18:08):
I understand all that, but I think that was all
been talked out previous to this, and then this guy
was trying to bat pedal on it, which, like I say,
when you get people right to the altar and you're
trying to close on them, that's what they'll do.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
It bark. Okay, I hope that is not.
Speaker 8 (18:25):
I hope that they get when they get all done,
when they get all done, bar do you.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Want to I'm going to let you go because I'm
up in my news and you were able to get
six and a half minutes, which was more than just
about anyone else this hour did. And I appreciate your conversation.
It was a good one. Thank you, sir. Have a
great night. We'll be back. The only line is open
is the one Jim just left. Six one, seven, nine, three, one,
ten thirty. Be back right after the just filled. You
(18:50):
gotta be quick, folks. We'll be back right after this,
and we will, I'm sure take this all the way
to midnight. So if you're not getting in, trust me,
stay with us. We'll be back after this. Night Side.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Okay, I'm gonna go to al Up in New Hampshire.
IL appreciate your patience. Next on Nightside, I'll go right ahead.
Speaker 9 (19:14):
Thanks Dan, I'll be quick. First of all, I think
there was a gentleman earlier that spoke about the the
human toll. Over a million people have died, both on
both sides, the Russians and the Ukrainian hearings. I was
just reading an article on the on the Wall Street Journal.
Over a million people. It's unbelievable. And when you know
(19:34):
the the only challenge, the only disrespect I feel is
that if I came to your house to have dinner
and we maybe had a difficult conversation and your family
was there, I wouldn't disrespect you. I would say, you
know what, mister Ray, can we can we talk about
this tomorrow or talk about it later. I mean, you
saw unfortunately that that that just happened. If someone had
(19:55):
just a sense of decorum and regardless, we and said,
you know what, miss president, thank you so much, you know,
can we take this We'll talk about this later.
Speaker 10 (20:04):
But you saw him.
Speaker 9 (20:05):
He saw him earlier, the Ukrainian president go after one
of the news reporters who asked him about his suit
and said, how come you don't dress in a suit,
and he was very condescending to the reporter.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
So it's almost like I did that?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Did that happen today? Or no?
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Yes.
Speaker 9 (20:23):
So one of the questions before this all happened, A
a reporter asked him in the White House, and I
saw the whole thing was forty minutes long. He said, hey,
can you please explain, you know, you're always dressed in
that kind of fatigues Why is there a reason you
don't dress in a suit? And Zelensky said, look at
if I want to be I'm paraphrasing here, I'm not
(20:44):
saying exactly if I want to, you know, dress in
a cheap suit, you know, I would look like you.
It was really I was like, wow, but I heard that,
and I noticed that something was off for the whole day.
So once again I'll be quiet and let you, you know,
speak to it. But I just think if I come
to your house, and even if I'm having a challenge,
and especially in front of your family, I say, mister Ray,
(21:06):
I'm really sorry. Can we talk about this?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
But it kind of goes both ways in the sense
that that President Trump had invited Zelenski to come here.
So Trump is the host, Zelensky is the guest, and
I get it. I get it. I do think that
that they the White House should have been small enough
to say, look, if we open this up to the
(21:29):
press pool, god knows where it goes. Our purpose is
to get him here to sign this document.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
And it's almost like if you're buying a piece of
real estate, the first thing you have to sign is
you've got to get an offer sheet signed. Do you
know what I'm saying? Okay, so you signed the offer sheet, uh,
and then you you you have a purchase and sale agreement. Well,
(22:00):
you're really not on the hook for the offer sheet
unless it's traditional. Offer sheet is just the first sign
of yeah, I'd like to buy your house, and then
the lawyers put together or the real estate people put
together the purchase and sale agreement, which once you signed
the purchase sale agreement, then you kind of like the
fish on the hook, if you know what I'm saying.
I just that's my thought on it. I just thought
(22:22):
it was a disastrous time.
Speaker 9 (22:24):
I don't disagree with you, But don't you think that
that they wouldn't have invited him to the White House
unless that was a done deal. I don't think that
Trump or anyone else would have any any president would
invite someone to the White House to sign something that
wasn't already agreed to.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
I agree with you, and that points out bad staff work.
In other words, they should have said, they should have known.
They should have said, look are you you're going to
fly to Washington, going to go to the White House.
We don't want to embarrass you. We don't want to
be embarrassed. They should have been complete and totally agreement there,
and then they should have avoided opening up that conversation
(23:05):
of it was poorly It was poor staff work, is
what I'm trying to say. Okay, and President Trump should
have been smart enough and sophisticated enough because he's been
president before. And basically when the when the questions started
to get maybe even that question about the suit. You know,
if someone was at the house and you came showed
(23:26):
and you showed up, were in kind of a different
type of suit, and someone said, hey, hew, we'll help
you buy that suit. You know, as the host, I
would have said to the person, Hey, we're here to
have dinner. Okay, I'm not gonna comment on what you're wearing.
You look great, don't get me wrong. You don't you know,
you would have interjected something there wouldn't you under those circumstances.
Speaker 9 (23:51):
I would, But there was something off in other words,
I mean I don't know, and you don't know that
perhaps there was already you know, just as he said,
Putin didn't agree to things. Maybe he didn't agree to things.
I mean, we have to have brought him.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
To the water never should have brought him to the
White House.
Speaker 9 (24:08):
But I'm saying is sometimes you say I'm going to
do it, but you show up. You know, he's not
popular in his country. There's been no walk coverage. There's
so many things that are different here than all other times.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Someone else talking about being Jim from mentioned of being
stood up at the altar. Every once in a while
you have someone who doesn't show up for a wedding.
You know that. Okay, they got cold feet. Maybe he
got cold feet. Well, I gotta fly here. I'm I'm
running up a lot of time and a lot of people.
I gonna let you go. Okay, thanks man, thank you.
Let go to Joe and Belmont. Joe, you gotta be
(24:42):
quick for me. How are you? And I want to
get you in here before the break?
Speaker 11 (24:46):
Dan.
Speaker 12 (24:46):
I think Trump should let h Russia the next Ukraine,
so it'll be for the big picture of world peace.
But I can't prove that Putin won't attack Finland or
Poland or the other countries. But that's what my tuition
(25:07):
tells me that.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Okay, So let's say, let's assume we say, okay, give him,
give them Ukraine. Who cares about Ukraine? Are there any
other countries that will let him attack?
Speaker 12 (25:19):
I don't know, but I think, you know, giving them Ukraine,
I think the big picture of world pieces.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I got to get it. So if all of a
sudden he decides that he wants to take out that
he'd like Estonia, Latia or Lithuania. I've never been to
those countries. We can sacrifice those countries too, don't you think.
Speaker 12 (25:39):
No, I don't think we should. I think we should
draw the line, but I can't prove it.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah, okay, well, yeah, I mean I think that I
think would like to put the old Soviet Empire back together.
He said that, he said the greatest tragedy of the
twentieth century was the solution of the Soviet Empire.
Speaker 12 (26:03):
But you know, Dan, I don't believe everything I see
on TV, radio and in the press.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Oh that's what he said. I mean that's what Putin.
I've seen Putin say that. That's Putin's view of the world.
Speaker 12 (26:15):
Okay, do you think we should give NATO over to
the European Do we really need NATO? Now?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
You know, I think the North Atlantic Treaty organization has
served us well. Uh. And I'd like to see the
NATO countries in Europe pay more. And I think that
we could cut back a little bit. But I don't
want to leave allies. I mean, we have some very
(26:45):
strong allies. Germany's a strong ally, Britain's a strong ally, France, Spain, Portugal, Italy.
Those are all countries that are US allies. Yeah. I
hear you, I hear you. I disagree with you, Joe,
but I respect your opinion.
Speaker 12 (27:02):
Okay, Dan, Like I said two years ago, it takes
a wise group of people who went to be the
policeman of the world.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
I remember that. As a matter of fact, I wrote
that down two years ago. I had that on my
desk right here. Joe, thank you very much for reminding me.
Speaker 12 (27:18):
Thanks for taking my call. Dean, You're a great man.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Have a great night, Joe. Right back at you. Let's
go to Kennon Waltham. Ken I gotta get you in
hit for the break at the quarter of the hour,
I can welcome.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
Thanks Dan. Yeah, I think you know the million people
who've died, and the fact that Russia has occupied twenty
percent of the country right now, you know the equivalent
of all the Atlantic states from Massachusetts to Florida, and
all the atrocities, including the thousands of children they've abducted.
I don't think of Volensky's really interested in laying down
(27:53):
arms anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Well, the problem. The other thing is he's pretty soon
not going to have any arms to lay down. That's
the dilemma.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Well, Europe is already talking about stepping up more after today.
But it's a problem. We have a big problem, That's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah, you know, it's like, you know, if if if
you're getting beat up on the way to school and
one of the older kids in school steps up for
you and says to the bully, hey, you've got to
deal with me, then you're okay. But when when that
kid moves away and he tells you you, I'm really sorry,
(28:30):
but my parents are taken us to Florida, you better
find another friend.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
That's what I'm trying yeah, yeah, Well, you know, I
think since the invasion and since Biden left office, Russia
has been weaker and weaker and weaker. But since Trump
came in, I would say, from Soelensky's point of view,
he's he's seeing a path and now where Russia is
just going to get stronger.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
And I think there's bad blood between Trump and Olensky.
I think it goes back to that phone call, the
perfect phone call that Trump held Corselinsky which ended up
in him being indicted, you know. And I just thought
Trump today to go to Hunter Biden and Joe Biden
and all of that stuff, the fifty one spymasters who
(29:17):
tried to take him out unfairly in twenty twenty. You
won the election, You're the president of the United States.
Let's put that in the rear view mirror for now,
save it for the book. In my opinion, it just
is always in the forefront.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Of his mind, you know, just to totally hit you
with a curve ball here. I think the real loser
today was Taiwan. Yes, yes, who's going to come to
their aid?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
And that's that's a really interesting point. No one else
has made that point. And I agree with you on that,
I think that you're becoming you know, packs Americana again.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
I think the best we can do if we you know,
I think I think Selensky and the Ukrainians are going
to fight potentially anyway, many many more deaths on both sides.
But if we support them and do that, that could
stop maybe China from invading Taiwans. But right now, it
(30:17):
my concern is that you know, China's going to say, hey,
the time to do it is when Trump is president.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Well maybe not, because I think it's more of the
policies that that he is exhibited here, which is unwilling
to back away from exactly. But I think it's I
think it's just I think it's bad blood. I think
he thinks down deep that that phone call caused caused
(30:44):
him to be impeached, that impeachment, the two impeachments cost
him his re election. He doesn't like Biden, the Biden family. Uh,
and it just keeps bubbling up. I don't know, Ken,
I got to let you go, got to run here.
Thank you much, appreciate you, thank you again.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Appreciate it much.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
All right, back on Nightside run after this.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Now, back to Dan Ray Live from the window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
You're gonna try to get three any for the news
so people don't have to wait through the news. Let
me go to Dan and acting Danny and actin next
on Nightside, Dan, go right ahead.
Speaker 11 (31:20):
I was just thinking, I'm hope China helped Ukraine if
the United States is not gonna help them, because this
just left the door open for China.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
I don't think so. I don't think China's gonna get
into a disagreement with Putin. I mean if I don't
think to Lensky would trust China. I understand the point
you're making right now. You've got North Korean troops in
there fighting with Russia, so you're gonna have China troops
China coming in going after North Korea. Just a thought.
I don't know what do you think.
Speaker 8 (31:49):
I think it is.
Speaker 11 (31:50):
It opened the door like it did in Vietnam. It's
just opening the door for They're not not even considering
China in this scenario at all. I thought the president
was very rude, and I thought Zelenski he has English,
has his second language, so he has to try to
interpret it while speaking in front of a press box,
that's very hot, very very well.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
No, that's an excellent point. I mean, obviously English is
not his first language. Uh, and that's difficult. Oftentimes they
could if they were in behind closed doors, they could
have been using an interpreter. That probably was a mistake
as well. I mean his English is yeah, I mean
that that. Those are two points that no one else
has made. Dan and uh, and those are good. Those
(32:31):
are two good ones. Frankly up on the points on
the board for Dan from.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Acting, Oh wow, thank you.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Have a good night, you too, Dan, have a great weekend.
March is about an hour and ten minutes away. Thanks,
We're gonna be We're gonna be okay, thank you much.
All right, let me get who can I get here quickly?
Let me go to Donna in framing him. Donna gotta
be quick for of me here. We're getting tight on time,
Go right, head, Donna.
Speaker 10 (32:54):
Okay, I'm not gonna repeat what other people have said then,
like Taiwan and all that stuff. You know what i'd like,
dam First of all, I'm seizing about this whole thing.
But why doesn't Trump release the audio of his conversation
with Vladimir Putin?
Speaker 3 (33:12):
You mean from twenty nineteen.
Speaker 10 (33:15):
No from recent times, hasn't he claimed that he's talked
to Pultin lightly?
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Oh yeah, I thought was I thought you were referring
to Zelensky. I'm sorry, No, no, no, no, no, no,
I misheard. No, that was my mistake.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
First of all, first of all, why would he release it.
Speaker 10 (33:37):
To show fair play so we can find out what
he said to Pultin, just like we johned out what
he said to Zolensky today?
Speaker 3 (33:44):
First time, Well, we found out what he said to
Zelensky in an Oval office meeting. I don't know that
too many presidents have gone and had a conversation with
a leader, particularly the leader of Russia, and then independently
(34:04):
released that conversation.
Speaker 10 (34:06):
I think to know what they said to each other.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Well, I'd like to know probably a lot of things,
but I don't know that I want those things released public.
Speaker 10 (34:18):
I guess I'm not making my point. We heard his
conversation with a Lensky today, so why don't we get
to hear what he talked about with well differ.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
The difference is today today was a public conversation, which
which Zelinsky accepted At any point, Zelensky could have said,
mister President, I think we should move our conversation into
a more private setting. He could have said that at
(34:51):
any point, in terms of coming back to your point, Donna,
when he had the conversation with Putin, I'm sure that
Putin assumed that that was a private conversation, and I
kind of imagined that Donald Trump said, Hey, Vladimir, we're
gonna have a pretty good conversation. I just want you
to know up front that I'm going to release the
(35:11):
conversation at some point in the next few weeks. That
I assume that's okay with you. What do you think
Putin would have said?
Speaker 10 (35:20):
That's not my point. My point is we got to heart.
Let me give me one more thing. Please, If you don't, you.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Gotta be quick, because we've we've said the same thing
three times.
Speaker 10 (35:35):
Nobody's nobody's talked about returning the Ukrainian children that have
been kidnapped from by Russia.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Yeah, that would be part of a piece of a
ceasefire and a peace treaty negotiation. A couple of other
callers had talked about the horrible thing that that Ukrainian
children were kidnapped by Russia. Good points, Thank you, Donna
as all. I appreciate it. Okay, thank you talking, so
good night. Let me get there, Glenn, Glenn, you gotta
(36:05):
be quick for me. You got to get you in
before the eleven. Go right ahead.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah. I was born an isolationist and I'll die in isolationists,
and I'll never apologize for that. I agree with Danielle
for Worcester. If you're going to put this stuff on
camera and be prepared for drama. Also, Donald Trump's are
kind of sport than I am. I would have said
that Dad was elected. You guys are on your own.
(36:29):
He's Olenski. You try the patients of a scene. I'm
no scene, so be careful.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Yeah, okay, that's really good. Let me ask you this,
if you going to die, if you were born in
the nineteen twenties, then when Hitler was roaming around Europe,
would have you also been an isolationist?
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Now World War two we had, we would drag kicking
and screaming into World War two because approve Harbor and
it got congressional approval, and you know, except Jenny Rankin.
But I mean, you know what I'm saying. I understand
War War two, but I'm saying since World War II.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
But what I'm saying is you still even though even
though we were attacked, you could have you could have
still been an isolationist. There were a lot of people
who were isolationists in the nineteen thirties, and matter of fact,
there's probably more reason to be an isolationist in the
nineteen thirties from a point of view of geographic geography.
For any of these countries to come hit us in
(37:21):
the homeland, they would have to come across the Pacific
or the Atlantic. Today it's a much smaller world. I
don't know. I don't know that isolationism served us well
in advance of World War Two. I don't I don't
think it served the Jewish people who were being slaughtered
in Germany and concentration camps appreciated us being isolationists. I
(37:43):
don't think the people who were on the USS Saint
Louis that were turned away at Ellis Island appreciate us
being isolationists. I don't think the British who's who were
who suffered under the Blitzkrieg for a couple of years
before we actually got into the fight, appreciated its being isolation.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Oh, you're going back the long way, which is fine.
I just I don't know. I just think that you know,
I take all the money we gave Ukraine and went
down to doing the new DEAILI hamper. You know, we
got a new sheriff in town. And you know I
got you.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
I got you, and I know that you're a Trump supporter.
So you feel that that worked out today real quickly, Glenn,
how do you feel this gets resolved? Or is this
the last meeting that Trump and Zolensky have when Zolensky
goes and tries to work with Europe and fight Russia
and never the twains shall meet.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Well, I don't know what's going to happen after today,
but today maybe the maybe the last store in terms
of I mean Trump started out trying to make peace
between those two.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Okay, all right, I got you in, and I got
you in before the eleven. But I gotta let you
go because here comes the eleven. I know, thank you, Glenn,
appreciate it. Uh. I suspect we're not going to do
a twentyth hour uh that we are going to continue
with this conversation. If you're on the line, stay there.
If you're not the only line that's open is six
point seven too, Well, that's just filled. We have Jennet
(39:10):
from Brockton's next, followed by Bob in California and Steven
New Jersey. We gotta get you all in sandri and
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