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If local legends, lore, and laughter are your thing, tune in to our podcast where we travel small town USA, one ghostly tale at a time.

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July 31, 2025 77 mins

Every time a twin tangent comes around it feels like it's been long overdue. We've been itching to stray from our usual path, and we've landed on some good old fashioned band rivalries. Take a little walk down pop/punk/"emo" memory lane with us, and see why our favorite bands were duking it out behind our backs, and sometimes right in front of our faces.

 

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Sometimes the spookiest of things are found in the most unexpected places. Take, for instance, the small city of Lead, South Dakota. We're not sure how we didn't stumble upon this location in the past, but we're glad we have now. Some things are almost too outlandish to believe, but maybe we should give this one a chance.

 

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Welcome back to the rolling hills of Tennessee. This week we are in the teeny tiny town of Petros, which apparently has a lot more to offer than would originally seem. Concerts and ghosts rule the streets here, and with a penitentiary with a history as dark as this, it's no wonder they're running rampant.

 

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July 10, 2025 73 mins

We're back on the mainland of the United States, and we're hitting the ground running in Asheville, North Carolina. This is arguably one of the fanciest locations we've covered, the history and the numbers speak to that. They say money can't buy you happiness, but can money buy you paranormal activity? Let's find out.

 

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July 3, 2025 58 mins

Well, it's (almost) the 4th of July, and we've decided to celebrate the best way we know how, by talking about spooky stuff. Turns out not even America's independence day is free from atrocities, otherworldly and otherwise. So join us as we talk about creepy clowns, creepy men, and creepy dogs. And just a heads up, that last one is a JUMP SCARE..

 

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June 26, 2025 77 mins

Well, we've found ourselves at the end of our US territory run, and what better place to end it than in the Virgin Islands? We've never been there before, but honestly, after this episode neither of us would mind a little trip there, hauntings included. Speaking of hauntings, they've sure got 'em. It's just a toss up if they're gonna be, you know, helpful, harmful, or malevolent. Probably worth the risk to fid out though.

 

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June 19, 2025 71 mins

We'll all learn a new word today as we discuss the atoll (pronounced "at-uhl" apparently?) that is Palmyra. Much like ghosts, it's not the things that you see her that are the most spooky, but the things that you can't. How can an island with no history of indigenous life have a haunted history, you ask? Well, as always, we're gonna tell ya.

 

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June 12, 2025 69 mins

Happy Thursday, everyone, and welcome to Puerto Rico! Even in territories over a thousand miles away you know we're going to manage to find a haunted theater. They haven't disappointed us yet, and here's hoping that this one doesn't either. Lord knows you'll be more disappointed with our Spanish speaking skills. Sorry in advance.

 

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June 5, 2025 79 mins

Well, we've ventured out once again. Honestly, we had thought we hit all spooky locations Terre Haute had to offer, but boy were we wrong. The trip sort of fell into our laps, and in turn opened a few more doors for us. So we're excited to move forward with our new findings, possibly in the very near future. As always, thanks for listening along, and we'll see you on the next one.

 

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May 29, 2025 61 mins

We've talked colloquialisms before, we've talked etymology, and this is still in that umbrella, but sometimes there are names for things that just don't make any sense, but we never think to question it, until now. Leave it to the twins that think too hard about everything to break down the origins of everyday objects and items. Some of them are a little more straight forward than others, and some of them are just gross. But all of...

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May 22, 2025 79 mins

We could have taken the low hanging fruit and talked about Marianas Trench (the place and the band) all episode, but we saved you all from that 10 hour dissertation, and instead covered the Saipan Island, which, holy cow is this place devastating. It's no wonder an island like this is going to be haunted. Honestly, we'd be surprised if someone didn't have their own story to tell, so let's see what the residents have to say.

 

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May 15, 2025 67 mins

Guam may be part of a larger territory, but there is so much happening in this one spot it warranted its own episode. The taotaomona are honestly giving us mixed signals here though. Like, do you hate kids/fetuses or not? We suppose they make that pretty clear when they decide to either help you, or be a headless, ailment inducing menace. Pretty cut and dry.

 

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May 8, 2025 81 mins

Sandy beaches, crashing waves, peaceful seclusion, you know, except for the ghosts. Who would've thought that paradise could be so spooky? What kind of haunted history could a tiny American Samoa Island hold, and where did these spirits come from? Well, have a seat, cause you're about to find out.

 

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May 2, 2025 63 mins

Well, a little late is better than never, so here we are on a Friday. And not just any Friday, but the first Friday of the month! So you know what that means; we've got another round of listener stories for you We're talking controversial orbs, creepy peepaws, and the worst version of Groundhogs Day you could think of.

 

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April 24, 2025 72 mins

We've made our way around the 50 states twice now, so what was left to do? How could we possibly forgot the territories that make America what it is? So we went to the heart of it in Washington D.C. It's no surprise that this territory is haunted, we can only imagine the unfinished business left behind. So, who's been lingering the halls of the capitol building and beyond?

 

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April 17, 2025 79 mins

Another week, another episode. But not just another episode, this one is going to round out our trip around the US for the second time! Time is an illusion. But our last stop is making us nostalgic for similar locations that we've been to, and who knows, maybe we'll visit this one too. So, can this haunted jail live up to the hype of the ones before it?

 

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April 10, 2025 72 mins

South Carolina, what can we say? One of the oldest states in the country, it's bound to be rife with haunted history. The stories must be immaculate and immeasurable. So are they? Well we're heading to Georgetown to find that out.

 

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March 27, 2025 84 mins

We're always excited for an episode in Georgia, they never seem to disappoint. And this time seems to be no different. We get a few different accounts of the haunted happenings at this hotel, and and the continuity is starting to speak volumes.

 

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March 21, 2025 74 mins

Well, what a journey this one took us on, in storytelling and literally. We're all for setting the mood, but maybe the weather could chill out a little next time. So we're coming to you late with the interesting paranormal adjacent location of Roanoke Island. An entire group of people just vanished into thin air, but why? Let's talk theories.

 

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March 13, 2025 57 mins

Nothing sets you up for paranormal success quite like the ever ticking hands of time. This really was the battle to end all battles for it's time with hundreds of lives lost. So surely there's plenty of spirits walking the grounds ready to speak with whoever will listen. So let's hear what they had to say.

 

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