3048: Camp Contraband

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Rod and Karen.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hey, welcome to another episode of the black Out Podcast.
I'm your host, Rod join is always by my cost Karen,
and we're live on.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
A Super Bowl Sunday morning. That's right? Or is I
like to call it Kendrick Lamar halftime Sunday morning. That's
the only thing that matters can be okay, I'm ready
to do this.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
I'm ready to see somebody's call people someone a pedophile.
I want to see if they I want to see
if whoever's broadcasting it blanks out of the entire verse
of a song. I don't think we've ever seen that before,
but I feel like lips from the second we hear Hey, Drake,
I heard you, like, it might just go blank for
like thirty forty five seconds.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I'm ready to do this, but we're not alone, guys.
We have a guest, very special guest.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
You guys may know him from, uh, you know, I
think maybe be an award winning journalist. You may know
him from his New York Times bestselling book. You may
know him from being an EMMIN nominated TV writer. But
I know him from working with him on Drape Thomaniacs,
which I know many of you guys listen to and

(01:14):
loved and wrote it in About and still Gus Sholver.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
It's the man, the author, the myth, the legend. Michael Harriet.
What's going on, brother?

Speaker 3 (01:25):
What's going on? Hey? Card? Hey Roan? How y'all doing today?

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Good man?

Speaker 1 (01:28):
It's good to see. Are you excited about?

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Do you go up for the Super Bowl and for
you know the the you know the pageantry, the parties,
all that type of stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
I mean, I'm not a pageantry party Well, I have
been and have thrown Super Bowl parties, but I've watched
the super Bowl. Like the worst place to watch the
super Bowl is at a super Bowl party.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
If you like football.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
If you like football, if you want to party, have
a ball.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
But if you actually want to pay attention, that ain't
the place.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Right. So I've done both.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
But I think I'm excited to see this, uh, this
matchup because I think, like I was, I watched it
in like the green room of like a poetry event
the last time these guys played in the Super Bowl,
So I want to see this like up close.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
A green room in a poetry event sounds like low
key the worst it's like almost worse than the Super
Bowl party to watch it.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
Yeah, it is, man, because like nobody cares about it.
Like my friend was having an event and I didn't
realize that it was a super Bowl weekend.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
And I promised her that I beat there, and I was.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
Like, oh, it's on super Bowl weekend, and it was
like a couple's event.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
So we were performing poetry for couples.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
But at least she had a TV in the green room.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, and she was just nominated for a Grammy. She
didn't wear.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Oh man, well, you know, shout out to that that's
hard to get nominated for in the first place. But yeah,
that is interesting too, because, like I just the fact
that you scheduled it on the Super Bowl day already
lets me know the vibes, like y'all don't care.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yeah, You're like, it wasn't even on your schedule.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
I'm about to show up and y'all gonna be like,
why you want to put the TV on NBC And
I'm like, well, because y'all not watching the game.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Everybody watching it.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
But Loki. Here's a secret, though, Loki.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
Super Bowl Sunday is the best time to have an
event because you're gonna get everybody who don't care about Yeah,
it's not a lot of people who don't watch football,
but if you have something, it's the only thing to
go to that's non football.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
You have something on Super Bowl Sunday.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, facts, it's gonna definitely be people that's committed to
the calls, like they don't deal with no distractions.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
How do you deal with.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
The super Bowl in the post Kapernick era, Because I
feel like I can't bring up the super Bowl around
certain folks without them letting me know, like they treat
me like I told them.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
I'm still smoking crack, you know where it's like, oh.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, man, I can't wait to see which one of
these black quarterbacks wins the super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
And they be like, oh, so you just watching the
super Bowl? And I want to be still on that stuff. Brother.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
I just want to feel like Colin Kaepernick is sixty,
like it's it's not happening. Like I like, the boycott
is over for everybody.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
We gotta move on. But like I feel like doing.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
What you do for a living, you know, being in
the spaces you're in, is that a thing you run
into a lot with being like, you know, even like
a casual fan of the NFL.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
No, I don't, because here's the thing, right, Like I
gotta admit, like I was one of those you still
watch his novel like really like that, right because what
happened was when when what happened to Colin Colin Kaepernick happened,
it kind of ruined for a few years my appetite

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for football. So I wasn't like boycotting like it's solidary
or anything.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
It was like I just didn't care, right like, man.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
Part of it was probably because I was a Dallas
Cowboys fan, and I like, I just can't be a
Dallas Cowboys fan anymore, man, because you know Jerry Jones
how he acted doing that college cap thing.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
So like I lost my appetite.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
But I wasn't like looking at people through the side
eye because I realized, like, like what people think about
boycotts is not actually historically accurate to what people what. Boy,
how boycott's actually work, Like it's still people who think like, like,
you know, we boy, we had the Montgomery boy bus
boycott and it ended segregation or it ended segregation and Montgomery.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
And that's like when I tell people.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
You know, the Montgomery Boy bus boycott didn't actually have
like any impact on anything that happened, Like there was
a court case and individual acts is what ended segregation
on Montgomery buses, not a bus boycott. I mean it
was cool for solidarity, but I think there's this notion
of how we get history white wives and how we

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get in the past white watch and I'd be like, yeah,
I mean, if you don't want to do it, you
don't gotta do it. I generally just don't mess with
people who don't mess with me.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
I think it's interesting too because like, uh, the amount
of organization behind like a boycott act back then versus
like just being like man, I don't listen to that
song no more. I feel like somehow the two get conflated,
where like people now are like individually on their on
their TikTok, Instagram whatever, being like I ain't watching this movie.

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It's like that's cool, not the same as necessarily organizing.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Your community, getting giving demands, having a day. It's work.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, And like you said, there's also uh, you know,
attacks from different elements because like Rosa Parks, that's that's
a designed like action, like action we want to go
to court. We like we we're ready for this fight.
That is not just she got on the butt. Like
the story, of course, is like she got on the
bus and she wouldn't move a seat, nada. And then

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you go back later it's like, oh, they was ready
for this action.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
They was hoping white.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
They wanted white people to think she got on the
bus and didn't move a seat and that it was
that simple. But no, they was ready for them. So
I definitely feel that sometimes now. And I get it
because we're all we're online, our thoughts are immediate, and
of course the stuff that's happening is very traumatizing to people,
so emotionally you lash out and it's you know, we're

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not shopping at Target anymore or whatever. And I get
it because I mean, I'm much more like you were.
I don't really boycott as much as I'll be like, okay,
well this isn't fun, and then I just like I'm.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Gonna head out.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
I'll just go and do something else. And also I
think for me, it's the times have changed. It's not
the same because years ago we all.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Had the same problem.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
Now all black people don't have the same problems because
before ain't no matter if you would rich black, Paul Black,
middle black, paper brown, black, sky black. All the blacks
had the same issues, but now blacks are everywhere. You
got some black people that are arrested, but like that's
not my problem to pole people problems. You have black
people that feel like I'm not connected to blackness, like

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whatever it is, and it's not organized.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
And on top of that, you had leaders.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
You had people that made decisions and everybody just was
like okay, but everybody wants to be a leader, and
you can't have a thousand leaders in the movement and
everybody think that their individual movement is making something happen
and it don't work.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Like I also think in addition to like like not
just leaders, you had orgs. Like the leaders had to
organize a group of people. It wasn't like like now
I could. I could technically I won't obviously, but I
could technically go on Twitter and be like, gods, I'm
an activist. Now I'm a leader, and like, as far
as Twitter is concerned, that's I've checked the boxes.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Like like, there's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Some skeptical people no paperwork, but there's gonna also be
some people that's gullible, like hey, man rodal activist. Now
he said, so Sunday four, So it is it is different.
And I wonder how like our loss of or maybe
you could say game, but I changed.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
I changed.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
The changed from uh direct physical to digital has changed
stuff because like a digital connection to me is not
the same as like even and this is something that
may seem archaic to people, but even like a church
leader because many times back in the day, the church
leader would be the leader in the community for black folks.
But the church leader had to come in there every Sunday.

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Look some people in the eyes. They knew where to
find him. They could come by his house, you know
what I'm saying. Like it was a little bit more
accountability because you didn't have a choice but to be
accountable because you had to go sell that idea, whatever
your thing was, you had to go sell it to people.
And I don't think it's the same selling something as

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a retweet or whatnot.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
So I agree, I do think it's kind of changed.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
But Michael, what do you mean, like thinking about like
some of this, like these companies are rolling back out
his d yashit, which I mean, come on, we knew
that was coming, but they rolling back out his d yashit,
and now it feels like people are kind of scattering
to find like something to do to like I guess,
you know show show like so I don't know there's

(10:03):
like a way to like get back at these companies.
Like have you been looking at this stuff? What are
your thoughts on it?

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yeah? Man, I uh.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
One of my thoughts is, like, like Karen was saying,
it used to be like, you know, what they did
affected all black people.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
It's still kind of true.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
Right, like yes, like all of those black people who
were Ivy League graduates and were millionaires and were you know,
had good jobs in corporate America.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Like they really just said, hey, y'all niggas.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
That's what the old thing was like, like all y'all niggas,
Like like you're gonna make it so that all of
y'all niggas and and so I think one of the
things that we gotta do.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
I think.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
The myth of like this collective community action is what
they sold us.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
When you look at history, man, it really don't be
that way.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
Like really what no leaders like like cart COVID, she
was like riding home from school and she was mad
because one of her Homeboys was gonna be, you know,
put given the death penalty, and she was like, I
ain't moving. And then some more women was like, I
ain't moving, I ain't moving, and then they had a

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meeting and chose Rosa Parks, right, And so it was
really the individual as now Rosa Parks was the only
one of those women who wasn't in the lawsuit Browner
versus Gail that ended that discrimination. So it was just
individual acts like now, y'all ain't gonna mess with me,
like I'm not.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
I'm just gonna take it upup myself.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
I ain't gotta be a leader, right, And I think
that's what we gotta realize, man, Like we don't have
to all, you know, we always here, like we gotta
unite and all get on the same pace.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
No, man, we just gotta do like half in.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
Our minds that I am not going to let these
people fuck with my people, right.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
And you don't got to organize. You gotta have no meeting.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
Or you can say I'm not going to Target because
I see Target doing that for right. You could say
I'm not, you know, messing with this company. I'm not
messing with these people. I'm not messing with this platform
and then that's how you hold them accounab Well, you
ain't gotta wait for no organized community effort. We can
support each other when we do that.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Do that. But this is what I've been thinking about ry.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
Right, we see Elon Musk and Zuckerberg and people like that,
these olar garchs, right, and they're wilding their power. But
you know what, man, like we kind of an olar
garch too, right, Like, just think about the most powerful
force in America is Black culture that we own, right,

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Just think about this, right, just think about umg. They
are the most powerful force in the record industry and
they got the two biggest artists in the biggest musical
genre in the world. And when those dudes wanted to
take you know, controlling the biggest event in their career
is Kendrick Drake b What they do. They just went

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in their house, recorded some music and just gave it
to the culture, right, Like, they didn't need this whole oligarchy.
And now the result is this dude performing at the
super Bowl. You know, you just think about what is twitter?
Twitter is really just black Twitter, right, right? When you
think about music, when you think about enter table, when

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you think about everything in America. It's you know, founded
on black culture, and we allow others to commodify that.
I ain't even getting you know all, you know, anti
white or you know, just I'm just.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Saying that we have as much power as they have.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
Right, we have culturally and individually and collectively, right what
we say is going to be the thing. And we
got to realize that, and we can. We don't have
to come to a collective decision, just start moving individually
with that knowledge that. And here's how I look at it, right,

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just think about everything you do.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Is an investment into something.

Speaker 5 (14:14):
You got a whole your oligard, and you got millions
of dollars. When you go to the store, you invest
in some of that millions of dollars into whatever store
you choose to go to.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
When you download a video, when you.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
Watch a TV show, what you're given is an investment
of our culture into that company or entity or person.
And if we start thinking about that, like what you're
gonna do with your investment, what you're gonna do with
your million dollars a day, then I think that is
a strategy that doesn't necessarily require because we ain't gonna come.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
To no collective decision on Twitter, because.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
If we do, we're not gonna see it because Eli
Muster is in control.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Of the algorithm.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
So I think we can individually or go ourselves with
that mindset.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
I think that's so interesting because like, you know, the
way white people have set it up, like Elon Musk
as an oligarch is he don't got to run it
by nobody.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
He just just he do some shit or whatever.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
But I do think the collective power of black people
and black culture is like the most powerful export America has,
the most powerful thing domestically America has. And it is
so interesting because we have shut so many things down
just because black people just stopped fucking with it.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Like it like it wasn't like.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Knowing, like MLK didn't come out and tell us to
start fucking with it, you know what I'm saying, Like
it wasn't a memo that went out, but it's just
like certain stuff just stop being powerful. It reminds me
of like Iggy Azelia, Like that was never a moment
that we canceled Iggy Azel. It was just like we
don't fuck with her, and then it was like she
just went away. She ain't have a choice but to

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go away. It was so and it was to the
point where even the people in the industry that had
money on her success, like so t I, people that
were like they needed her to be successful. It made
it uncool for them to be like, come on, gods
really need to be successful. It was like, oh, okay, y'all,
don't fuck with her no more.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
I don't know her. I've never heard her in my life,
Like that's how. That's how.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
So it does definitely work, and we've seen it work
so many times. The other thing I keep thinking in
this like the post election moment, I think everyone's like
spiraling and you know, looking for solutions and shit, and
I really think that people just gonna have to buckle down.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
It's really not there's no quick thing happening.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Nope, like instant right now. The easy pot was in November.
And because you didn't do the easy part, now we
have to deal with the hard part. And I think
that's very hard for people to understand. And also I
think that a lot of people are going through the
stages of grief and they don't really understand it, like
they're now you know, acceptance, you know, rebellion, anger, like

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they're going through all the stages and they don't actually
understand that's what they're dealing with.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
So I think what I found the most interesting is
the lecturing to all the people, like especially the people
who like voted, the people who were like for harm reduction,
all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
There's a lot of like postgame analysis that's like, here's.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
What y'all need to do next. And I know I
was talking. I was on Three Guys on yesterday and
I was thinking about this. I think it was Charlotte Klember.
She's an activist, and she was talking about she made
a thread and black people was duncking on this ship
like like Dwayne Wade, throw Ali the Lebron James.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
It was. It was, It was crazy.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
But her point was like, Yo, maybe we should be
the ones to give these people off ramp from like
trump Ism and from you know the like no, I'm
not voting. Both parties are saying like give them a
soft place to land so that they come back over
and join this coalition that I.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Don't think she's wrong. By what, I don't think she's wrong.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
This is America, and and everything I've ever read in
history says these are not necessarily good people. But you
just need to get enough people and they will go
back and forth. There's a contingent of people that will
go back, swing back and forth, swing the pendulum other
country one way or another through either apathy, anarchy, empathy
for white racist bullshit, whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
But the way it.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Seems to work is like they fuck up, they let
shit get fucked up, and then they swing back wildly
like hey, that was who that was crazy, right, And
it's like you was just over there, and so that.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Might be true. That might be true. Here's the thing, though,
why are you talking to me? Yeah, I'm not in
your way. I didn't do shit. I didn't do nothing wrong.
I did my job. I'm not stopping you from talking
to them people. Nope.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
If you want to go over there and hang out
with them and see if you can convince them to
stop being big as and shit, you should go do
that work. No one over here will ever stop you
from doing that work. They might roll your odds at you,
but you just need to deal with that. If this
is gonna because collectively asking forty seven percent of the
electorate to be like, guys, can we just be nice

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to these people?

Speaker 1 (19:09):
No? No, no, we can't. We did what we were
supposed to do. Yep.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
So I but I just think it's funny how so
much of it is like, here's what we need to do.
I'm good, I think I know what I need to do.
I need you to go do what you prescribed to
me to do, unless your whole point is like I
need you to go do this work, which is not
gonna happen. Nope, Like people are tired of working on

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the behalf of someone else. I think what is funny,
especially for like black folks and black voters. A lot
of times we vote for ourselves, our own self interest
that you know, that's fine, that's every human being.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
But I should be helping everybody.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yes, Like it's not like you like I can't be
more altruistic than I was.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Like there's a lot of shit that don't really affect
my life.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
That just helps you because we out here together where
I'm like like I look at you, and I be
like I don't really.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Understand that, but I don't know, like fuck it, Like
you won't be free. I want to be free. We're
not the ones quivling, you know what I'm saying, Like
we're not the ones like, wait, we're gonna get free
and they gonna get free. I think I'll go with Trump,
like what ten percent of us do that ninety percent
of us do the right thing.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
So, like, I think that's why it's such a backlash moment.
But like I want, part of me wonders if inherently
that sort of like lecturing attitude is this like holdover
from like all the way back to like slavery, to
whereas like the Blacks need to be told what to do,
they need to someone gotta tell them they would never

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know on their own.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
It's like we the.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Ones that know we do want to pick Joe Bondy
for y'all dumb ass like we know.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Don't get me started on that. Yes I did. We
know y'all more than y'all know. Y'all stop fucking talking
to us.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
So I think I wonder if we're at an inflection
point at some point where it's gonna get angry the
other way, where now you need to talk to me nice,
because we like you're talking about how we need to
talk to these people that hate us nice.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
When you gonna talk to me nice?

Speaker 5 (21:11):
Yeah, man, I always I always think of it like
so most of my journalistic career has been in black media, right.
You know, one of the things I'm here to talk
about today is, you know, I started a new project
called Contraband Camp because like, I've always been talking to us,
so like I never approach anything, you know, we work

(21:34):
on Drake Polmaniacs with the idea like we ain't talking
to white people like we I do not have them
in my head when I construct an argument. But I
also understand that when I'm talking to black people, I'm
talking to black people, a lot of them say, well,

(21:55):
what the white people going, right, But what the white
people gonna do? What if we do this, you know
what white people are going to do? And I think
that we have to get to a point where we
are comfortable enough with ourselves and comfortable enough and confident
enough to say, like, is not going to matter what
they think, because whatever they think, if they don't think

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what we're thinking, it is they're thinking something that harms us.
So there is no reason to conjecture what white people
are thinking. Right, Like what white white people have always, always, always,
throughout the history of this country been wrong on every
single thing, or the Native Americans on slavery on you know,

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Jim Crow, or like every single time, in every single
thing that affects black people and things that affect anyone
who is not white, they're going to be wrong.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Why would you consult the people who are going to
do right?

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Like it's like cheating.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
Protest with the dumbest against with the dumbest person in
the class, right like why are you looking on the
dump dude paper to see what he he.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Asked the course.

Speaker 5 (23:09):
So that's what I always think, right, Like, I don't
necessarily like when white people come and you know, say,
you know, I want to be you know, I stand
in solidarity with you, or we want to we need
to build.

Speaker 6 (23:27):
Calling and I'll be like, yeah, y'll tell your people
right like you ain't got out like people, I don't
know what you want me to do, right, Like I
can't comes white people.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Low key, low key.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
One of the dopest moments they had is fucked up
because black people picked on it. But one of the
dopest moments they had was the pussy had march. I
was like, yes, that's what they should be doing. Go
gather your folks and y'all get out there, and y'all
march and y'all go do the thing like that, And
at the end of the day they had like black
women that were on the stage being like this, what
y'all fucked up? I was like, this is a good

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who organizes this a good job?

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Like, leave us out of it.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
We don't like we're on We're always on the beat,
you know what I mean literally figuratively to's and fhones.
We're always on the beat? Is y'all that stray off?
And it's and you know, it's the empathy they have
for their family members and shit, like you know someone
my family voted for Trump. Well that's not my problem, right,
none of mine did. And if they do, we don't
eat their potato salad when it comes to fucking November

(24:25):
and Thanksgiving. So like that's that's a problem y'all got
to handle internally, right. I think it's also interesting too
because you mentioned contraband camp man, can you like tell
people what it is? And uh and you know what
this new project entails.

Speaker 5 (24:42):
So contraband camp I was thinking, you know, just like
you started out talking about today, right, like how do
we communicate with each other?

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Right?

Speaker 5 (24:51):
So you know, I've been lucky enough throughout my career
to just gather and build connected with a bunch of
people like you, right, And I was like, why don't
we have a site. You know, we saw all of
every place the watching them post the LA Times just
capitulate like I mean, I guess we magna now, right,

(25:14):
and I think and you know with Twitter chapping with
this algorithm, I was like, yeah, we need a place
where where voices people can trust that like I ain't
giving them no bullshit because I mean, if I'm big
honest man, if you look at black media, I was
a part of black media and was in black media

(25:35):
when I watched it do the same thing that it's
not just whack media, right. I watched their foe like
I watched like sites that were the only place that
black people were practice in journalism say yeah, we're gonna
pivot to money like entertainment and we're gonna, you know,
do seven Beyonce stories a day or we're gonna just

(25:56):
become aggregators. And it's really not white journalism, it's capitalism, right.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
And so.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
I said, well, what if we just have a place
that is like old school newspapers. And what I mean
by that is they subscribe and support it, right, Like
what newspaper How newspapers used to survive is off of
the people who had subscriptions. So I started contraband camp,
and I thought I had Rise and numbers the first

(26:32):
story I thought I had because I invited a bunch
of them to literally like down to the middle of
nowhere because we thought we were gonna get together for
the inauguration.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Of course that didn't happen.

Speaker 5 (26:43):
So we had a launch man and it is like
the journalist like Elle Mastyle covering justice and the Supreme Court,
and you know Natasha Brown talking about activism and even
stuff like how to keep yourself saying right, and you
know we have we're gonna have a like Wes Lowry

(27:06):
covering you know, police shootings and depressed and if you
don't know that name, like probably the journalism prodigy of
the last generation.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
This dude got like had like through pullets just before
he was.

Speaker 5 (27:20):
Thirty, created like literally the dude who said, you know what,
we should start counting how many black people, how many
people police kill?

Speaker 3 (27:29):
And then they just started counting how many people police kill?
Because before then.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
And so I think, and so what we did is
we formed a collective where we all share and the
profits and the like.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
If you're not, nobody's doing it for free, right. And
what I.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
Discovered, man, is just like I was saying earlier, bru
it is profitable, right, Like, no, we're not gonna get
reached rich, but like just black folks supporting this project,
like we're able to pay everybody. We don't have to
skimp on any more than they would write for anybody else.
And so, and the idea the name comes from the

(28:13):
fact that, like after the Civil War, black people just
started running away, and so many people started running away,
they thought the union had to form what they called
contraband camps because they weren't because remember now we were
technically property, so they was so there was they were

(28:34):
stolen property, but they had stolen themselves, right.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
So the.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
So the federal government Congress came up with the term
for them called contrabands. So if you ran away and
stole yourself, you were called contrabands and contraband camp. Almost
every black, majority black city or majority black neighborhood started
out as a contra band camp. They were gathering these
camps and they built schools, and that's where black folks

(29:02):
registered the vote. That's where the idea of the American
education system came from, the contraband caps, right like, and
so I think that is the thing that we have
to do now, right like, steal ourselves to build our communities.
And that's why the name of the place is contraband
Cap band cap dot com.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
I was going to ask you that that's dope, man.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
It's also interesting too, because, like you brought up just now,
the public education system basically is black people like black people,
especially black people in the South. Basically age yeah, made
America's public education system. And now twenty twenty five they're
talking about defunding the Department of Education, and I, you know,

(29:44):
not to get our third eye open conspiracy minded, but
it always just feels like they think niggas, Like when
they hear that, they're like, and you know that now,
of course at this point, everybody, everybody.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Is benefiting from the Department of Education.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
Those people's children are because most people cannot afford private school.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
And I know, like that there's I know that in
their minds or whatever, they might not even be aware
of it, Like I don't even know that they're thinking
a direct connection in the way that I am, but
it feels like it like the fact that that's a
priority for you. Sure Republicans will benefit from less educated
people period. People you know, in their minds, they like

(30:26):
the idea that people don't know the history of America,
so they can kind of give them the history that
they want them to have. But even still, like you
would think, if you're gonna indoctrinate people, you want the
Department of Education, you just force them to indoctrinate people
like they do in some states now where it's like no,
I don't teach them about that shit, teach them tell
them it what's happy slaves, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Like like they do, like they do that already, but
to completely.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Try to bankrupt the con It feels like this Trump
administration is the fruition of two hundred years of like
how to we get these niggas back under the thumb
just because some of their initiatives, like some of the
things they're attacking, they're so racialized. I'll get into a

(31:10):
couple more things, but like the Department of Education is
it is a black it is black progress that benefited everyone, Yes,
And it feels like they're taking a shot at black
progress like, nah, same thing with DEI. Mostly white women
are getting the affirmative action jobs. Like their take. It's
more of a like they're so good at constructing a

(31:33):
narrative and understanding how powerful a story is, even when
it's a lie that it feels like they're now trying
to complete that story and be like, and then we
got the country back because we took away all the
shit that the black people gave us, and now you're welcome.
America's great again. Oh, you ain't got no insurance? Oh
oh oh whoa, don't worry, don't worry. You got a

(31:55):
job right. Oh oh the eggs cost too much? Oh damn,
that's crazy. But at least the black people ain't got shit,
so y'all should be good.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Right And I And the thing is, I've said this
years ago, and when I would tell people this, they
were like, carry you crazy. I've always said the goal
has been slavery, and like like, once slavery got kind
of broken apart, they was like, we want it back.
We don't care how long it takes, we don't care
how many generations are gonna die.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
We don't care.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
We're going to teach our children's we're gonna revamp it,
rename it packages is something else. Oh, we in a
digital age. We're gonna take the shit online. We're gonna
take the hoods off. We gonna name it Proud Boys.
We don't care whatever it takes to get it back
to slavery.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
That has always been the goal. Now, when you say,
people always say, Karen, you crazy. Has that actually ever happened?
Has anyone ever said you was crazy?

Speaker 2 (32:45):
When you said this, I feel like you've said this
many times on the show. Yeah, no one's ever said
you was crazy.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
You know what.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
I also think that sometimes I be in my own
brain and I always think it's somebody out there in
the world as goes that's not true, And I'm like,
that is they might.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Have thought it.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
I'm sure that they thought it.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
I don't think anyone's ever written in We never had
a guest on the show at the time. It's like, now,
Karen hold On, I feel like everybody's like looking around like,
I don't know, feel slavy to me?

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yes, but you know.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
And also the thing is, because when you're dealing with
people nowadays, people sensitivity to that word sometimes be everywhere,
and you be like, no, I really do mean what
I'm saying, And I.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Know it's just funny that you every time you bring
this up, you talk about how people call you crazy,
and I'm just like, I've been here every time you've
ever brought it up, no one said you're crazy. We
know the history of this country. I think they just
put new names on it. Yes, immigrants are slaves to them,
prison labor is slavery, like it's they just remixing and ship.
But it's the same. It's the same recipe. You know,

(33:48):
it's bang bang shrimp. It's the same recipe over and over.
But it's the same shit.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
No, yes, you you fucked me up with you said
bank bank trip is because you right, man, like bang
bank strip never fails. Like when you said that the
other day, I was like, you know, he's right right
like you, it's foolproof.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
I will absolutely order bang bang shrimp on any menu
anywhere I'll ever go. That's there's nothing consistent like that. No,
it's not. There's zero things.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
If you put grits on every menu, I'm like, dude, everybody,
grits ain't good.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Grits ain't not everybody bang bang shrimp good bang bang shrimp.
None of it's the same.

Speaker 5 (34:29):
No, But I also agree with Karen in that, like
I understand why Karen said, like people say I'm crazy
because you feel.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Like if you're the only one saying this.

Speaker 5 (34:44):
Like people must be thinking this is crazy, crazy thing
to say because it's so clear and nobody's saying that
ship right.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
It's not right.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
It's not long like it's not on any TV program.
You know, there's very few books out there that would
just flat out saying you know, not that there's none,
but there's very few.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
That will flat out just be like, y'all know they're trying
to bring bright slavery. It's such a conversation stopper.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yes, you know I'm reading the cruelty is the point
and the opening few chapters. What I love about it
is how much it's saying something that I've been feeling,
especially after the election, which is, oh no, what's handicapping
us is we just can't say what's happening. It's not
that like we're watching the same things happen from the beginning.

(35:26):
But it's like if I tell you, like, oh no,
they just racist. They wasn't gonna vote for a black woman.
It don't matter what she did well, hold on, hold
on the Okay, so the economy.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Now, listen, some people, some people just feeling this way
about Palestine.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
I'm like, naah, like, you know, there's a white person
they would have found a way to reconcile that shit. Yeah,
And because I can't just say it, I can't. I
can't be on TV, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
There's certain spaces we can we can have this conversation here,
were honest, but there's places you can't.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Even have as conversation.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
And so I recognize now how unfair that plainfield is,
how unfair, how much of it feels like gaslighting to
have a black person in a space where they can't
be like oh yeah because of the.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Racism, and they're like whoa, whoa, whoa, what are you
talking about? We have to play, so I dance.

Speaker 5 (36:17):
I agree, like and that's why I think, but you
can't say it right like I think, you know, I
don't think everybody can say it because what happens is
like I am not afraid to say it, and because
I'm not afraid to say it, like black people have
support it because like black people are like, oh yeah,

(36:37):
that dude, saying the thing that we was thinking, right,
and you can just say the thing that you or
write the thing that you know black folks are thinking,
because it's not crazy.

Speaker 6 (36:50):
Like I feel like everybody else is crazy because I
was watching all of this shit and nobody's saying racism.
They crazy, everybody, it's crazy because they're making up all
of these crazy things economic anxiety and you know, it
costs eggs and maybe it's Palestine and you know, and

(37:11):
it's d and it's like, no, it's funny.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Like I'll see a clip every once in a while
on the timeline of like Bill Maher or somebody, and
like the underpinning to his arguments. It's always like this
stuff with this woke is getting out of control. It's
really it's really just And I'm like, and then it
made you be racist the way that's not like those
two things not supposed to go together, Like it's one,
Like it's one to be annoyed. I think every single

(37:36):
person on the planet, no matter how good of a
person they are, has had an eye rolling moment.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
It's something.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
It's just your human being. Someone introducing new concept and
you're like, we gotta do that shit too.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
What I didn't do is then be like, and that's
why I think it's okay to bring back slavery, like
there's something wrong here, and the fact that we can't
bring up that part to like Bill Maher without being
like push pushed, like podspoge out of way, because that's
that's kind of what they did, is dismiss it out
of hand, like come on, racism, come on now, it's like,
that's the.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Obvious fucking answer. Dude, Yes, sir, So I'm with you, Mike.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
What happens, I think is that the space that you
exist in becomes quote unquote limited, not by anything you're saying,
but by the fact that it's truthful and there's a
level of denial and a certain part of the populace.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yes, that is like, but is it not? But is it?

Speaker 3 (38:29):
THO think about this?

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Right?

Speaker 3 (38:30):
So is it limited?

Speaker 5 (38:33):
I think we believe it's limited, but it's not limited, right, Like,
so just take my book for it says all that shit, right,
no history book, not a white one or a black woman.
It's so more than that book since it came out
none zero, So what's the where's the limit? I'm won't
see it in MSNBC, just like the white peoples who
say the white things be or people who sit scared

(38:55):
to say the things are ordinary, right Like I was
thinking this morning, right when you talk about drape thomaniacs, man, like,
do you know how crazy it is that they let
us do that?

Speaker 4 (39:06):
I love that show. I was like, I want another
season they let us do.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
They gave us.

Speaker 5 (39:13):
They let us do a TV show, right like, and
pay people like they working for TV.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
For a podcast, like we had a whole Like we
had money to pay people to.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
Compose a soundtrack every episode, right like original music, licensed
music that you know, like.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Forrell had our theme. So it was crazy.

Speaker 5 (39:37):
We had a writer's room, we had a music supervisor,
were like and the idea that like, and we were
seeing the black and shit you can say, right, and
I don't I think.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
So here's what I think. Here's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
I don't think it's limited in the attempt or even
the artistry or idiot stuff. I think because it's America,
it becomes limited in the scope of who will be
willing to entertain it, mostly because and it's not our fault.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
It's nothing we can do about this shit.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
I'm like, I don't feel bad about this at all,
But it's like how they because there's people at the
top who select, like what what the.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Fuck are we fucking with? You know what I mean?
What who are our cultural gatekeepers and whatnot?

Speaker 2 (40:21):
And some of them do shit like by the Washington
Post or whatever and decide like, actually, we're not talking
about Trump this year for the first time ever. And
so it doesn't necessarily mean that what was what the
people wrote and that editorial isn't true, but it by
it becomes limited in this reach because they control how
much of the reach comes out, right, So it's the

(40:44):
effort is there. But I'm just saying, imagine a world
where these motherfuckers weren't pushing down where they were like, yeah,
well you wrote the editorial. It's out uh draped though.
Mania Maniacs season two, season ten, like we like push
this shit as hard as it can, Like, let's make
put this shit in algorithm.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
When people log.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Into Spotify, first thing they see is like, oh, you
listen to this, You're gonna like Drake Domaniacs. It's certainly
like when we were with Spotify, there was a thing
where they every week we had these meanings it's like,
what can you do it promote the trow you know whatever, right,
and it's like, you can make the show this long,
you can do you can have these guests, you could
do this. I'm like, we do all this shit already,
but sure, whatever y'all say, We'll try it. And then

(41:23):
one day these motherfuckers was like, Hey, this this for
the next two weeks. We're gonna make it so that
when people log in, if they listen to like other
podcasts in this genre, it's gonna tell them listen to
black Out too.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Numbers go straight through the roof. Yes, it does. Then
two weeks later we have another meeting. They're like, what
can we do the promot the show. I'm like, nigga,
you know.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
You numbers you told me just now like I've been
I've been toiling, like you can turn on the.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Faucet the same way you do for Joe Rogan. You
just don't know what I'm saying. So that's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
It's not necessarily I don't think like, it's not a reflection.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
On the art or any of that stuff. It's the
difference to me is like seeing inn could have the
Michael Harriet Show if but Michael Harriet gonna say some
real shit that you can't really control all the time.
So it's like we have I'm.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
As a panelists and the shit don't work out, you know,
just stop having them as a panelist. So it's that
and more than likely there's someone fighting for you to
make sure that you even get on there to be like,
we need to have Michael Harrit involved in this conversation,
and that's the legacy of our ancestry.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
That is the fight we will always have to be
a part of. But it wouldn't it be nice to
be in a place where we didn't have to fucking
fight to just be like some real shit, Like you know,
Bomani love this dude. You know, it's my brother. One
of his things he always say is like, man, part.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Of how I got to where I got to is
I just know how to talk to white people. It's like,
I can still say some real shit, but I have
to know how to talk to him. And it's absolutely
right and it's definitely part of his success. And at
the same time, I'm like a plan fail where we
have to know how to talk to just specifically them,
where like you can't ever call a person racist. It's

(43:02):
kind of a fucked up playing field because me and
you both know probably that motherfucker races and they can
do the mother fucker do a Nazi salute, and we gotta.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Be like, well, they say he autistic. Nah, nigga, he's
a little nausey's dog. What are we talking about? So
that's what I mean. I don't it's not about anyone's
personal you know, integrity.

Speaker 5 (43:22):
Just yeah, I agree with you, man, because like I
feel the same way. But because one of the things
is like I'm probably the opposite of a money like
I was like homeschool and a black neighborhood. So I
never literally never learned how.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
To talk to white people, right, right.

Speaker 5 (43:41):
I remember like when I was in uh like my
first year of going to public school, and I was
they skipped me a grade, and then it was only
one other black person in this class, and I made
this joke like it was time for social studies, and
I was like, oh, were about to study the thing
where black people didn't exist before eighteen sixty five, and

(44:03):
the other black person laughed, and I got in trouble.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Right, that's hilarious, right, And so but that wasn't instructive.

Speaker 5 (44:14):
Right, But when we were going home, we were walking
home because we used to walk home because it was
an all white school. So walking back to our neighborhood,
it was like a group of black folks, my sisters,
her brother, and she told it tells the story of
what I said, and everybody gassed, like, oh, you.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Said that in front of white people. And that's when
I realized, Oh, like I don't know how to talk
to white people. Yeah, so you gotta, we gotta.

Speaker 5 (44:41):
That's a thing, like an extra lesson that all of
us have to learning.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
You right, Like it would be nice.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
It would be nice, Like I'm just the only thing
I'm doing is recognizing the playing fields fucked up.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
It ain't even about like this isn't prescriptive in any way,
Like I don't have a solution for this bullshit. I
know in many periods of many things that are quote
unquote limits of the way I've navigated life are just
limits I've chosen to have because I'm like, I ain't
talking to them like that, you know, like.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Somebody else can do that work, I see how to
do it.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
I see It's like I could I could make some
change there was a thing we tried to do to
promote our show behind the scenes where it's like, we
got a live show coming up, we want to, you know,
talk to some local folks. And so we have like
our local like news station that's kind of like it's
a political station, even if they don't want to say
they are and political and that they're dedicated to the truth,

(45:38):
which of course makes you liberal now, so it's a
pretty liberal radio station. But you know, I was like,
let's rea talk to them, see if maybe we can
do like an advertising campaign or like be interviewed or
something to promote the show. We've dealt with stuff like
this in the past. And the notes we got back
was we listened to the show and it's too political

(45:58):
and it's kind of vote and I'm like, oh, because
we just because we just weren't thinking about white folks.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Like we just did not make a show where we
were like, don't say racist, say racial that, Hey, you
know what, don't say the N word. Okay, they're not
comfortable with that.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Let's they We didn't even think about them while we
do the show. And so there's a loss that we
have to take quote unquote to Okay, we can ever
work with that person.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
But I'm okay with it. Yes, I feel happy.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
I feel like there's a cost that we all have
to do when we compromise like that, and every black person,
you gotta make your own measurements on where you want
to because I ain't telling nobody to go bro, So
make your own measurements on where.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
You want to, like keep it really not.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
And this is a place where we've chosen not to
do that. But yeah, it's it's definitely like something I'm
aware of now in a way that it's become It's
become somehow my number one thing that I view in life.
After the election, I'm like, oh, that's just not a
place I can say the real shit.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Yeah, go ahead here.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
And also something that I am very glad is that
we control our platform, which is something that a lot
of people don't do. They don't have the rights, they
don't own it, you know, and type of things.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
So we can just say things that.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
We don't have a producer or somebody in the background
or some network coming behind us. And I don't say that,
I don't do that. You can't say this. You said
nigga too many times. We're keeping count or whatever it
may be, whatever their quotas are.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
And I appreciate that, you.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
Know, because it's one of those things like right, just
say we can say things and just be like, well,
it is what it is, you know.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
And same thing with Michael.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
You have enough people that support you and support your
vision that you can sustain a lifestyle off of it.
You might not ever be quote unquote rich, but you
won't be without because you understand that.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
And black folks will support us. Yes, and that's enough
for me. I get that it's not.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Enough for everybody, it's snoop, but for me, it's enough.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
You know what I'm saying. I'm like this, I'm cool.
I'm cool marking out this level of territory.

Speaker 5 (48:09):
Yeah, and it's cool like to surround yourself with those
people like and you won't have to fight as much,
like I remember man like. I don't even know if
you even know these some of these stories. Man Like
we're doing drape though maniacs. We would have some of
the wildest meetings with the white people.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
I don't know these I don't know these stories. I
wasn't in the white people meetings.

Speaker 7 (48:34):
So so for backstory, like the two producers of Drape
though maniacs were black women who, like I didn't know them.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
I think for real found them.

Speaker 5 (48:47):
I didn't know them before we started working with him,
and it just turned out to be like the realest
people you could work with. Like I like the reason
it was a successful because of this right and so
you know, I would.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Get in the meetings and.

Speaker 5 (49:03):
Geniia, yes exactly, Alika Genesia, and so I would get
in the meetings and I would be able to sit
back because I know, like they weren't gonna let these
folks lie. Like I remember there was one like right
before the show he was starting, they created this they
had hired this advertising company to create this package and
these uh these uh animation designs for the show, and

(49:28):
one of them was like a white person whipping black person.
How it was okay and the animation like the opening
of the show, And I was like, yeah, I don't
think like you could take that part out right, and
like yeah, so we are you know, They said okay, yeah,

(49:49):
well we'll make a note of day and.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
Was like Jenise was like hold on, hold up, I
want to know. I want to understand the thought process
where you thought that would be okay, you thought that
was okay, explain to me.

Speaker 5 (50:05):
White, like I don't understand why you thought that was okay,
and so like that was one of our first things
that I realized, Oh yeah, we don't.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
I don't even really have to.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
I think also like that is that is the part
that is to me, like it's almost I don't want
to say it's selfish, but there's benefits, Like I don't
I don't feel like we're sacrificing knowing that our audience
is like mostly black, and if they're not black, they're
comfortable with us being black. I don't feel like I'm

(50:34):
sacrificing because mentally, this is the healthiest version of an
audience I could have. I don't want to deal with
the people writing it and been like my grandfather said
that some of the slaves are happy and singing. Are
you sure that if we bring back slavery is back?
Never gonna get that question from our audience, thank god,
because and there's some people who've made a choice to
go into spaces where.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
That's gonna be a question.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
You know, everyone that's ever done a plantation toward knows
that that's a fucking question that once you let other
some people in the room. It's like here we go
with the bullshit and and I and I'm glad those
people do that work, but I'm glad that we chose
not to. But it's partially selfish, right, it's partially like
I feel like dealing with that shit.

Speaker 5 (51:13):
No, yeah, but yeah, you know what, man, Like it
works because like I'm gonna listen to your show, Like
you don't have to have like Beyonce on.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
As a guess.

Speaker 5 (51:25):
You don't got to work and try to get Beyonce
on as a guest for your audience to listen to
your show.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
It's not dependent on anybody.

Speaker 5 (51:32):
Else, Like they here for you, and you got us
a stable audience, which is what the entertainment industry is
looking for.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
Somebody who has a stable audience. Right, Like when those people.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
When Spotify turn on the facet, right, they are bringing
people who like would normally normally listen to your show.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
But some of those people are gonna.

Speaker 5 (51:55):
Stay, right, and that's that's the benefit, right, because they're
giving other pep people that the benefit of that foster, right,
Like that's the things that they're keeping it from us.
And we support Spotify too, right, Right, some.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Of those subscriptions belong to us, and they keep the
turning off the foss.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Yeah, it's just funny to think, like, it's just so
funny to think like there's some people that just never
had the foster turned off, you know what I'm saying.
It's kind of goes all the way back to the
beginning when I talked about that thread from Charlotte Climber Right,
you've never had the faucet off, so you don't even
your advice don't even work for us, Like I'm over here, like, nah,

(52:32):
we've been making a pot of water out of two
drips all my whole life. So y'all welcome to the party.
But maybe you go over there with your big ass
buckets of water and you figure out how.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
To feed them people.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
But also I feel like this moment post election or
whatever and with the Trump blitz on like everything people
love and hold deer, I think it's just putting people
in a pan space. It's fucking people up, Like every
day you look up, there's like a new fucking ten new.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Things that he's doing. And I think it's funny to say.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
But I saw a video from Plies talking about like
Democrats and being like, why the fuck do y'all keep
talking about what the fuck he won't talk about? And
I'm sitting up here like nod in my head, agreeing
with Plase. I'm like, wow, twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
It brought me to.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
PLI sitting in his car, mister, you know, sweet Plussy
Saturday Sundays or whatever.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
It brought me all the way here to be like,
you know what, y'all need to listen to Plaiuse.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
He making some good fucking points and points because some
of this shit is very like it's almost like a
reality TV show the way Trump governs. I'm putting in
quotes where a lot of stuff isn't actionable, a lot
of stuff is illegal, a lot of stuff gets struck
down in the courts, gummed up. A lot of stuff
is not as simple as they say. But if you
do ten things a day, it just no one's ever

(53:57):
able to focus and fight back on specifically one thing. Yes,
Like one of the things I saw article is said
Trump won't deport Prince Harry, And I'm.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Like, who give a fuck? Like, if you're not Megan Markle,
who give a fuck? Don't they live in Canada anywhere?
Or some shit, or they live with like they live
in California, but they rich, they gonna be they'll be
all right.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
I bet you they got more than one house around
the globe. Not that I want them kicked out, but
it's just on my list of things. If you were
like Rod, there's a list of things Trump want to
do that might fuck with your life. I don't wanna
say last.

Speaker 4 (54:35):
But.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Prince Harry might be last on my list.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
No, no offense to Prince Harry, but it might he
might be the dead lastest ass thing on my list
of like fuck, not that you know what I mean,
But it is interesting that they point our attention to
shit like that, because you know, hopefully no one takes debate,
you know, hopefully like Nancy Pelosi ain't in front of
their house tonight. Like, guys, we're not giving up Prince
Harry because then everybody would just judge.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
They'll just judge the Democrats for doing that shit. But yeah,
these stories are not real stories.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Yeah, you know, man, you know what it's like, right,
you have had I mean I'm sure you have.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
Because everybody knows a dude who is just like real offensive.
He just like asked everybody like really like goes through
a party and say, hey, girl, you won't give you suplicity?

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Yeah yeah, and he'll just like he asked everybody that
and it's crazy.

Speaker 5 (55:30):
But the crazy thing about it is like if he
asks one hundred people like one time, it rights for him.
It's the numbers because he a crazy guy. It's a
numbers game. And that's what Trump is doing. Like all
the chaos, he just like said, you know, well, let's
just take Joe Biden's security clears and.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
Let's just uh, let Eli must get everybody.

Speaker 5 (55:49):
Social security, right, let's just you know what I'm saying,
And let's just put some nineteen year olds in charge
of the Treasury Department.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Let's just put a quack scientist and charge of the CDC.

Speaker 5 (56:02):
And while everybody like, hey, no, no, no, no, you can't,
you can't do that, Like what are those things is
gonna work?

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Like Eli Musk got your social security number? You should
know that Eli Musk has your social security number.

Speaker 5 (56:15):
Yeah, the richest man in the world who owns the
biggest social media platform.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
If you say something, he allgainst you. Hey, guarantee you
he can look up your social seputity number. Yeap, it works. Right.

Speaker 5 (56:29):
And the thing is we can't get with the Democrats
are saying, hey, maybe not the you know, the Department
of Government Engineering, and maybe we should look at this No, bro,
we should say he's crazy, like stop going like keep.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
This guy out of the party.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Yeah, Plis made a good it's so funny to say
that sentence, but yeah, Plies made a good point. He
was like, hey, man, talk about the ship he don't
want to talk about And I was like, yeah, facts,
they don't want to talk about them. Planes, they don't
want like, they don't want to talk about like every
day we wake up a new point, ain't crash and
y'all the ones that are bankrupting those departments, you know, y'all.
Of course y'all don't want to say that ship.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Yeah, I would, I would.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
I would start every every Democrat because they was they
brought up this conversation price of eggs. Every Democrat, every statement,
just start with the price of exodes blah blah blah.
Now let's talk about block Yes, yeah, eggs blah blah.
The price of gas is blah blah blah. Now let's
continue with this subject.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Yes, because they asked him about the price of eggs,
and he said some ship like, hey man, who knows
why egg prices go up?

Speaker 1 (57:32):
It's like, bitch, you was prescribing the solution a month ago.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
You was like, I'm gonna get them down soon as
I getting off with them egg prices coming down.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Now you don't know. It's just fucking this up to God.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Nah, bro, give it go, Like hold, let's let's talk
about them eggs that you don't want to talk about.
He also signed an executive order banning transgender female athletes
from competing.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Once again, one of these social things that's not it's
not really an issue that's affecting people's lives, not really governing,
it's not. It's just more of a like here's a
sign we hate trans people. I'm giving the biggest what
they wanted.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
And also like not really actionable, like people will comply
with it, like you'll see the n C double A.
And like, I think there's a lot of people who
want out of these discussions, who like Trump is a
convenient excuse.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
To get out, like private companies that get rid of
their DEI. They just want out of the discussion. There's
no they just want to run a business.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
He's not doing shit to them because the ones who
thumb their nose. I don't like Costco is like niggas,
suck my dick with Costco.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
The fuck you gonna do? And he's like, nineteen attorney
generals agree with me. They wrote you a letter. Okay,
we wiped our ass of that letter, and we're gonna
keep doing what the fuck we do.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Okay, well, yeah, I guess it ain't nothing we can do.
You our private business, and we just was hoping y'all
will one out. But there were companies that I think
wanted the off ram. You know, you like Budweiser, and
motherfucker's been you know, a against your beer and shooting it,
you know, kids shooting cases of it. You've probably been thinking.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
For a minute, like how the fuck do we get
out of this? But don't make it look like it's
our fault.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
You know, if you're the NFL who are still like
doubling down on d I which is so funny, but
taking in racism out of the off the end zone
thing at at the super Bowl, you.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Just went out of the discussion. That's that's what you want.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Because the fact that I listen, I had to do
research on this Okay, wrote the whole fucking thing for
Game Theory about it the NFL and Roger. I'll say
Roder Goodell because it's not the whole NFL. Obviously, it's
definitely not the owners. Roger Goodell pretty committed to trying
to be an ally not saying it's I don't know

(59:48):
if it's just like a personal thing.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
I don't know, if it's just a somehow money thing
for him. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
I ain't saying he perfect, you know, because I think
there's areas if you you criticize the NFL and you
black from inside, you can still find your way on
the outside. So it ain't like he like he's he
ain't an activist. He's just fucking he owns a business.
He run a business.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
But the motherfucker really could if he wanted out.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
He had a lot of offramps, and he keep me
in like no, So I think he just don't want
to talk about it no more. I really think he's like,
I just don't feel like hearing y'all bitch about end
racism and the end zone.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Are y'all gonna drop your dr programs?

Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Are y'all gonna stop? I found when I was doing
this research. We found some charities and some causes they
were given to that we were like, do they know
they giving it this shit?

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Like one of them was abolished, all policing, all prison
I was like, dude, they know they said yes to this,
And I mean, I guess they do because we made
a show about it, it was reported, and they didn't
change shit.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
They They're like, we're gonna keep doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
So it's interesting because I I whether companies want out
of the DEI diversity equality inclusion game, I don't know.
I think honestly, only time will tell. We'll find out
which companies truly do want out. But I I if
you took a straw pole and you ain't say no
CEO's names, I better come back at like ninety eight

(01:01:21):
percent being like and we don't even want to talk
about the shit, even if we're.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Gonna do it. Even if we're gonna do it, we
don't feel like the President coming on and talk to
shit about us.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
We don't feel like these Republicans Boycotton or making these
videos about we're gonna run up in target.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
We don't want to deal with that shit.

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
Yes, because for a lot of them I'm gonna tell
the truth. It is a lose lose situation, Like like
the people don't want to admit that you got the
racist people saying you're racist. You got the you got
you got the the the the black people saying that
you're racist. Everybody's saying that you're racist. So at the
end of the day, you're like, you know what, we're
still because at the end I feel like this, as
long as a job gets done, I actually don't give

(01:01:58):
a fuck about what you name it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
But you know some people like put a name on it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
You got to put a name on it, because why
because the second you put a name on it, you're
gonna draw their attention and have the program camp.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
I think people want to feel like the companies are
joining the fight with them, which is why we'll always
have that like whatever that that is.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
I'm not one of them people. Now, you're not wanting people.
Companies are not people, y'all. Yeah, I know you're not
one of them, but that's what I think people want.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
I just think there's an easy solution. Before the game today,
NFL should just come out and be.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Like, gods, we did it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
We did it, We ended racism. We could take it
off the end zone. Okay, we took care of that
for y'all. Now we're just gonna all fight together. We're
putting that instead all fight together and because that's the goal.
From now, we're gonna all fight together. But now that
racism is ended. Okay, two black quarterbacks in the super
Bowl today, we did that. Okay, records the whole year,

(01:02:49):
y'all said, we've been cheating for Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
So we got his black ass up in there. Y'all
say he don't deserve it, and uh, the out of
the other conference you got Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
I mean, the nigga just basically runs. Okay, that's an
old school black quarterback. That's what y'all been wanting since
Randall Cunningham. Okay, so we did it. Racism is over,
Kendrick Lamar halftime, we out.

Speaker 5 (01:03:11):
That that's perfect, right, like or it's just just a
race the end to leave just racism.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
In it, Hey, Trump, Trump might come on the field
and take a picture with it if you just leave racism.

Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
But but what are the things like I agree with you,
Like people really don't know that, like that Colin Kaepernick
shit worke, right, like the what he did is get
one hundreds of literally three hundred million dollars to people
who are out there doing the work that he knelt for, right,

(01:03:49):
Like he didn't have to do He.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Didn't have to do it. Like y'all say, what is
Colin Kaepernick doing now?

Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
He got three?

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
It's really crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
How like when we did that piece, it's such a weird.
It was so weird researching it because it's almost like
they don't want to talk about it because we reached
out to interview the motherfuckers and everything, and it was like, no,
we're good, We're just gonna keep doing the work.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
And it's like, huh.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
You could almost say it's humble, you could almost say
it's altruistic. But in a way it feels like y'all
don't want to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Have to fight about the work, Like y'all want to
do it, but y'all don't want to be out here
like being quote unquote distracted. Right, you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:04:27):
Right, And that's what we want exactly we should want
from white people. It really is, y'all don't talk to
us like we don't want to. In signing the end Zone, Bro,
we walked the three hundred million dollars. Yeah, Like, if
y'all keep doing the three hundred million dollars, y'all don't
have to put ship in the end zone.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Yeah right.

Speaker 5 (01:04:44):
And but the problem with that DEI stuff though, is
like we have to like some of that ship is
something we didn't ask for.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
A sign in the end zone. Nope, we didn't ask
We didn't ask for the technically we.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Didn't ask for technically. We didn't ask for jobs. No,
we did not. That's not when we said that. The
George Floyd was like, y'all stop killing us.

Speaker 5 (01:05:09):
Yeah, and the corporations are not hiring like putting black
people on the payroll who who are unqualified. That's a
crazy thing for white exactly right, Like all of these
corporations got together, you said, you know what, we're gonna
give black folks like hire some highly educated black folks,
just give them money for not doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
I know you, I know you'll appreciate this, Michael too,
because uh, I mean it's dark, dark humor. But still
after the fucking plane crash and these niggas literally went
and was like you know they had some black people
working there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
That was the old school is racism. I like it
felt like throwback like WV. The boys would have been like.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
I recognized this racism, like like like his ghost is
his ghost isn't having Like they still doing that them.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
This is like some taft administration. Yes, God, like I've
never it's almost imprisonive. I was like, I've never seen
anything that racist. Yea, why she y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Haven't even found the black box yet? And y'all like,
why the box? I bet you the box was black.
Don't you mean African American box?

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
That's what caused the.

Speaker 5 (01:06:23):
Crash if you did, if you did a skit on
Saturday Night Live, like they wouldn't let that air, you said,
and they said, well, what happened some black people driving?

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
They were like, no, that's like they.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Might as well have they might Trump might as well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Saturday Over office turned his computer screen around and start
playing soul playing and.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Be like this was this What the fuck y'all lay happened?
That's why the plane crash.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Look, this is the flight crew. You got more knee
eating lobsters in the first class. I mean, what the
fuck y'all was bake to happen?

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Why is Kevin Hart on this motherfucker. Like that's how
they was treating it. And it's it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
I guess in a way, it's almost sobering because for
me it's like, this is the fuck I've been talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Yeah, like how do you deny that? How do you
look at a man?

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Tell you like, and it wasn't just Trump, because like
you can dismiss Trump sometimes almost onlike he just trump
fucking jd Vance is like, listen, maybe the plane crew
was all white, I don't know, but they gotta work
with black people and that type of that type of
mental effort that we are asking white people to put
up with in the office of just having to be

(01:07:37):
around black people at all. It's the kind of thing
make a plane crash. I mean, you just it's like,
oh my god, a black person was in the bathroom today.
Oh shit, I just flew into a fucking helicopter Like
that is how they reacted. So and he's the button
up blazed up one, like he's he's not supposed to
be the crazy. So they really just think you can
go look over there, some niggas and everybody will throw

(01:07:57):
out common sense and be like it probably wasn't y'all,
you know, cutting all these jobs.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
It wasn't y'all uh like shutting down funding for stuff.
It probably was the blacks. Right, That's where we're at. So,
oh my god, it's amazing stuff. All right, Let's get
into a couple other segments, because I I feel like
I could talk about this bullshit all day, but I
want to talk about some fun stuff as well with everybody.

(01:08:23):
Let's get into something we can have fun with. Let's
see some black capitalism.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Okay, okay, let me pull up my black capitalism segment
music because there's a box shout to my man.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Felt five. Uh wait, that's the long one. I want
the short one.

Speaker 8 (01:08:43):
There we go, Will Smith talking. But the only thing
I'm listening to that paper. Every day we get into
that paper.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
Money to see you later.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Get that paper. I hear them money talk to see
you later. All right. Some of these are old, but
the met Gala apparently a side.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Rocky Coleman, Domingo and Pharrell are co chair in the
twenty twenty five met Gala, which would be honoring Black Style,
and Lebron James.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
Will be the honorary co chair. Mm hmm yep.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
It is an exhibition that has inspired by Monica L.
Miller's book Slaves to Fashion, and well, damn, that's a
good ass name.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Yeah. Wow, she did that. That ship hit hard, she
did that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
And we'll celebrate black style from the eighteenth century to
now with garments, paintings, and for top photographs that highlight
the evolution of dapper looks in black culture. Oh man,
it's sad because it's not gonna happen now. But you
know who would have killed this Jonathan Major's dog his life.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
He already dressed like he from nineteen twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
Yeah, he would have killed you, just like a just
like a Negro train porter.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Yes, yes, listen, I don't know where he shot at,
but it's it's definitely a time machine involved, because I
don't even know where you get them fixed?

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
MANI like, oh man, but yeah, you get that newspaper
boy hat man, right, they don't make them no move,
Oh my god. Like he would show up in that
Django outfit. You know what I'm saying, the blue one anyway.
But yeah, but but shout out to the rest of
these guys. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
It'll be on view from May sixth to October twenty sixth,
twenty twenty five, and the exact dress code hasn't been
announced yet, but it's to be full of black excellence
and styles.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
So congrats to those brothers. Hopefully they get a bag
for that. I'm assuming too.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:11:08):
I think it's it goes to charity, okay for transparency
saying yeah, I kind of worked with the uh that
committee on that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
So it is about the thing.

Speaker 5 (01:11:19):
The theme is black dandyism, so it's not just the
folks who were putting that shit on like in the
twenties and the thirties, right, like when black folks really
like after a generation out of slavery, we started getting
the ability to create our own styles. There was a

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group of dudes who like always wore suits and were
kind of show off and they would called dandies. And
so the Galla is a tribute to black dandyism. And
but yeah, but I think you know, ain't no more.
I don't know where Jonathan Major's gets its closed for.
I think it's like a Chimney sweep store, cause, like

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somebody gotta still be cleaning chimneys, right, so they gotta
have stores where Chimney sweeps get that ship from.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
I think that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
Bro're keeping them in business. I'm like, hotel, I want you,
I want this in every color.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
I don't know where that brother shop at, but I
just I just imagine, like I just can't imagine him
going out in a normal store.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
I just like, that's got it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
It's almost like how John Wick go in the normal store,
but then they take him to the special.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Section with the guns.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
It's gotta be like that, but but with close for
Jonathan Major's where it's like, oh no, no, no, no,
don't that gentleman needs to go to the special section
of Coles.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
We got you in the back, brother, come on this way,
oh man. But yeah, he'll be there hopefully.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
Yeah, like a deacon, a sharecropper.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
Y'all got any jump in the broom tuxedos like something
that really I'll pay.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Extra for the broom.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Lotto the Rapper Okay, Lotto gifts fired waffle House employee
ten thousand dollars for Broken Challenge participation. So Lotto has
stepped in and support a waffle House employee who was interminated,
I mean, who was terminated after her participation in the
Rappers Broken Challenge. So last month, the Brokeie track quickly

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became a fan favorite from her album Sugar Honey, Ice Tea. However,
outside of the love for the so many listeners felt
as though Lotto was being condescending in her lyrics and
making fun of the working class.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
But to her write her wrong, she launched.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
A ten thousand dollars Broken challenge inviting fans to share
videos of themselves showcasing their jobs. I hate that y'all
think I was calling hard workers Broki's heartbreaking emoji. So
I got TK for whoever make the best video at
their job to broke ee and I'll fly you out
to be in the music video. No more wait until
yo bday to go out of town, tag me and
hashtag brokey so I could see them all. The challenge

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had so many participants, including TikTok thank user Yadira Ramirez,
who chose to submit her video highlight of her job
at waffle House. The footage show Ramirez in her colleagues
harmlessly singing along the Lotto song while working at the restaurant.
Shortly after it was posted, the video gained attention almost
immediately and then ranked in twenty three million views on
the platform. Despite Ramirez trying to score a big Payday.

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She revealed just a few days later she had been
fired for participating in the challenge and the follow up videos.
She was in apparent disbelief as she stated she has
been an employee of white House for six years. Wow,
life is tough. Okay, six years in the waffle House.
That's like doing a bid. I know she hadn't seen
some sto. Yeah, uh, she said, I just got fired

(01:14:41):
because of the video A big Lotto's challenge. Yay, I'm
glad I put six years in the company that would
fire me for literally one video, one video that harms
nobody and that everybody was actually rooting for. Ramirez also
stated she was placed on the AFR list, which means
she could not return to work or be rehired. Waffle
House got that, huh got a badness. I thought House

(01:15:02):
is like cops, when that you shoot somebody, you just
go to another waffe House and work there.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:15:08):
I think I think I know somebody who is like
an executive and in the hierarchy of waffle House. But
the thing about waffle House is like when you go
to waffle House, is there anything that a person could
have done that would be like I all think she
should be working.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Nothing like as long as they bringing up. I've seen
I've seen people wook somebody asked at waffle house and
go right back to working. And I didn't. I felt like,
that's a waff. You need to be able to do
that to work here. I don't think. I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:15:40):
Yeah, I don't want nobody who can't work, yeah, working
on the internet fixings browns, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
I think it would be weird that they were talking proper. Yes,
it was.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
I kind of want to look over at the grill
and see a cigarette hanging out somebody's mouth.

Speaker 5 (01:15:58):
Like I kind of do you know who the scariest
people in the world are to me? Have you like
you go to a waffle house at three in the
morning and it's like a fifty eight year old white dude, Yeah,
looking there, I be wondering what does he.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
Do because he working night shift?

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
They did something they like, they were like, don't mess
with that white boy here.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
Fuck everybody and him up.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
Yeah, that's the scariest person.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
And life went wrong for him, you know what I
mean somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
So Fortunately, things for Ramirez took a turn for the
better after Lotto learned of her termination. Atlanta Rapper later
linked up with Ramirez to offer not only her support
but a ten thousand dollars gift.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
Though a Lotto hasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Officially declared her the renner of the challenge, Ramirez's aunt
took the social media to confirm the niece took the
crown from having fun in her job being fired to
win a ten k from at Lotto.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
I mean, you can't make this stuff up.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
Time for the Next Level, she wrote, Time for the
Next level feels like y'all doing a lot, but yeah,
it's good for her.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
It's good for Lotto, Black Capitol.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
Listen ten dollars. If either one of you can name
a lot of.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
Song Brokeie, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
That's the one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
Venmo Ven ten dollars. I don't know, I'm the challenge.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
Ever, if we just did the article, Karen, you actually
do know it is broke. Just we just did it
my mask, you would have missed.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
That was a layup. I'm sorry. Oh open book task
and I failed it. I'm so sorry. I don't really
listen a lot of like that either. I listened to
a lot of she could rap though, but I haven't
really sat down with some.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
Music yeah, but I should.

Speaker 5 (01:17:33):
We're in an era where we know a lot of
people uh names for like a lot of rappers names,
but not their music.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
I know rappers names.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
Definitely, definitely because of social media, like because now ship actually,
because the industry got so like fucked up now they
want people with a social media following more than they
want people that's like necessarily skilled rap.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
Not that these people aren't skilled to rap. Many of
these on the women's side anyway, many of these motherfuckers
can rap. Yes, but uh, you definitely would know more
of them from like, oh, I think I saw her TikTok,
then you would be like, yes, you know, or you
know the song from the TikTok challenge as opposed to
like the radio because we don't have radio really anymore.
It's a good point, Mike. Lastly, Uh, Tyler Perry's Divorce

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in Black.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Drove more US Prime Video subscriptions than any other Amazon
MGM movie.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
The studio says, come on through Tyler, Tim Tyler, don't
give a fuck about what y'all say. Tyler said, take
it to the bank. Bit here. He don't care, he
don't care. I've never seen the dude get this much shit,
but just continue to be win it, y'all. I'm not
gonna lie. I cheer for him. He know his audience

(01:18:50):
and he don't give a fuck if you like it
or not. The picture they picked for the art for
this for this article, it looked like he said, yeah, bitch,
like if I yeah, it's like that. Oh someone fell
out the casket in my movie. Oh you don't like
the wigs? Well most subscriptions ever. What's your favorite job? Reacher? Reacher,

(01:19:11):
ain't do that Jack Ryan, Jack Ryan, ain't do that?
Ship Cross? Oh, y'all love Cross, Oh y'all love You
know what you love more than Cross? Divoicing Black because that's.

Speaker 4 (01:19:21):
What y'all watched, and Negro supported him. Even if you
supported him in protesting, you still support it.

Speaker 5 (01:19:27):
So funny you remember those movies like Ernest Goes to
Cast I still love those. So when I was I
took a film class in school and I wrote, uh
that that when black directors and writers are allowed to
make like black versions of then that's how you'll know

(01:19:49):
that the film industry isn't biased anymore. And we finally
reached it, Like because I don't I don't watch Tyler
pair of movies. But I don't understand people who like, yeah,
it's not like Tyler Perry is the only person making
movies that the government forces.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
You to watch. It's other stuff right there, right.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
But but if like the idea that like Adam Sandler
is white Tyler Perris.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
That's what I say. You literally took the words out
of my mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
I was just about to say, like to me, Tyler Perry,
Adam Sandler, same fucking guy, and that's progress, Like progress
is not and the only difference is like, like, Tyler
Perry just made a movie on Netflix. I think it's
like the Forget the Number, but it's the one where

(01:20:41):
it's the black women regiment of.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
Yeah, yeah, hey, man ship was good, Like like I
watched it and was like, are you sure.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
Everybody's like yeah thamas perm hmm, okay, all right, So
I guess he get the whig budget, get the get
the he got.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
I mean, you know he could do the same ship.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
They Black Panthers filmed on his set, so like they
doing warp scenes and the war scenes are like war scenes.
Like so you know, I'm not trying to I mean,
it's no way not to sound shady, but like I've
seen movies where Tyler Perry had people in a restaurant
and there was clearly no liquid in the cups of
the extras that were supposed to be drinking liquid in
the background, and it's like, Okay, that didn't seem like

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a lot of attention to detail.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
And then I'm watching this and the motherfucker's flying a
plane during a dog fighting I'm like, Tyler Perry did this, okay,
all right, so he can do it if he want to.

Speaker 5 (01:21:40):
Adam and got like Tyler Perry also wrote this version
of the simulation that we're in right now with Donald Trump,
Like it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
Feels like, yeah, this whole administration feels like a Tyler
Perry plot.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
Does right McKee running America down the Trump's bad wig.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
It makes it makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 5 (01:22:00):
Uh, but Goes Trump is really playing Madea Goes to
the White House.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
Yeah, I'm still waiting on Madea Goes to Space. I
really I you know what I think I'm in for
that one? I made it. I made that joke. What
talk on Twitter? It went a little bit viral, but
it was like Dia in the Marvel universe.

Speaker 4 (01:22:19):
Just.

Speaker 1 (01:22:22):
How fun that would have been.

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
See that I will watch that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
Why couldn't that be one of the what if episodes?

Speaker 3 (01:22:28):
You know, like Superpower is like hitting people with a pocketbook?

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
Yeah, exactly, Oh thing, put the fucking put the gems
on the pocketbook, so instead of being like the gauntlet,
it's got the stones on the first I'm about to
get them capping.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
Up in her. Oh man. All right, let's get into
one more fun thing. Let's do a little bit of
Guess the race. Okay, because we've been listen. I get it.
People been listening like these guys are woke. Okay, this
is the d I this is the problem. Okay, this

(01:23:05):
the issue they not giving. White people are off round
so they could come from Trump and come over and
be cool with them. Well, we're gonna be a little
racist ourselves. Guys. It's time to catch the race. It's
time to race. It's time to catch the race.

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
It's time to catch the race.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
Guess the race game.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
We go around the globe, guess the race of people
involved in these articles that we found, and everyone plays along.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
Karen's gonna guess, Michael Harriet is gonna guess. The chat
room is gonna guess, and just gonna let you guys
know these guys are racist.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
So let's get into the first one. Uh, let's go
with how about this one? Gun play came after male
duo's for play.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
Oh a lot of plan. What's happening here.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
Rappers, Police say James Newland, sixty one, and his thirty
three year old boyfriend, Oh okay, they went to his bedroom,
the sixty one year old's bedroom, to have relations, meaning
they were sexually intimate.

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
According to cops, the younger man said Newland told him
he liked it up, so he smacked Newland's but hard
enough to leave a handprint.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
Okay. After Newland told the victim to stop and that
he was hurt, the man apologized, put his underwear back on,
and returned to the living room. Okay, I feel like
that's appropriate. You know, the probably the mood's ruin and
they're probably pretty upset. Well. When Newland subsequently appeared in
the living room, he allegedly.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
Grabbed a revolver from a side table and pointed the
gun at the victim, saying, you wanna try me, you
wanna fuck with me?

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
Okay? That escalated quickly. That's that seemed like an over
reaction to me. Just some other underlying stuff happening. Yeah,
you know, it seemed like I don't like it that rough.
But why do you have a gun?

Speaker 5 (01:25:12):
Sir?

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
This is much rougher than the hand on the ass. Actually. Now,
as the victim departed the residents, Newlyn cops charged fired
the shot into his front porches pavement.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
Newlan reportedly admitted to the shooting, but claim he would
never hurt anybody. Well, I mean a hand on the
ass and the gun kind of that kind of goes
against your point. He said he was just trying to
scare away the dude who he accused of striking him
with the gas can.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
Newlan, who smelled of booze.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Oh what it has slurred speech, gave consent to search
his home, where they found approximately nine firearms.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
God, hey man, what's that's what small having. It's a
lot of guns man for for hook up, you know.
The two other guns were removed from his car, So
he had eleven guns.

Speaker 4 (01:26:06):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
So then he was arrested charge to acivatetor saw with
the daily weapon fell in and too, mister me the
gun counts.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
He was released on New Year's Eve at the Post.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
Twenty five thousand dollars bond Uh. He's been ordered to
have no contact with the victim. Karen, guess the race
of mister James Newland.

Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
I'm gonna go white. Karen's going white, all right, what
about you, Mike?

Speaker 3 (01:26:31):
I'm going white?

Speaker 5 (01:26:32):
Too many guns, Like there's a threshold of gun ownership
that that crosses over, and you know his white people
like I feel like three goods like one in the car,
two in the house, nobody a bit of a dude.
And then the other thing that he gave it the
way is the paying print on the ass.

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
Person.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
But I love I love your detective Vine. Let's see
to chat room n ra A white the three six nine,
directed by Adams. Adams said, that's hilarious track too many guns,
white white glaze. I like its spicy and add some
black pepper. White, both of them white.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
Instead of shooting at the club, he shot up the
apartment white black, says Cornelia's okay, Cornela is a pretty
black name.

Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
Too white?

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
Does the gauls using the bullet wounds? And why?

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
The correct answer is Michael and Karen both said the
same thing. They both went with white. Much of the
audience went with white. The correct there's is white.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
Now one person did miss it. I gotta boo you.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
I like where your head was at Cornelius though, Okay,
I like that you think outside the box.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
But this sounded very white.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
I think once you get the handprints on the ass,
it's it's kind of it's up there.

Speaker 3 (01:27:55):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
I just can't imagine going in nobody house they got
nine guns and tell of them.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
I like it rough. I'm like, what you were your
version of rough and my version of rough might not align. Brother,
that's a lot of guns.

Speaker 5 (01:28:07):
Yeah, because you can't hide nine guns, right, yeah, gotta
be like on the table.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
Nine guns is like you go to get a glass
of water and it's a gun in there.

Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:28:19):
When you put two guns in the car, like you
got one in the glove compartment, where's the other one
in that middle?

Speaker 7 (01:28:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
Who's who's after you? What are you, Tony Soprano? Nine
guns for a dude who's coming.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
In John Wick gonna be having nine goods, right, goods?
And then you have to go get what right?

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
Oh man? All right, let's go to the next one.

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
This might be the dude who sells John with the
goods because you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
Know always fast facts.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
He's like, actually, I'm a tailor, but if John Wick
comes in the house, I take him to the gun
side of the tailor. Shop man use a GPS tracker
to run into doing air quotes here a woman in
an apparent effort to rekindle eight years ago sexual relationship.
A Florida man hit a GPS tracker on the car

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of a female victim in an attempt to engineer a
chance to coincidentally run into her.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
What a cute story to tell your kids. No, it's not, boy,
you know how I got your mama stalked them for months.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
GPS investigators a last at Tyler Michael Strack, a twenty
two year old Chipotle worker, purchased a cable brand a
cable brand tracker from best Buy and started a device
on a woman's car. The victim discovery Track advice last
year and contacted the police. Using a series of subpoenas.
Investigators linked Stracked to the item's purchase and to an

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email address provided upon purchase of the cube tracker. Asked
about Strack, the victim told police they once had a
brief sexual relationship with him several years ago, which with
no further substantial contact. During police questioning, Strack reportedly admitted
purchasing the tracker and stopping device on the victims vehicle
at her residents and attempt to run into the victim.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
Damn, it must have been good. He was thinking about
that shit a lot years ago. Nigga, you haven't moved on.
You're like, I need to. I can't just Facebook stocker.
I gotta get a tracker. I gotta see her coming
out the gym. There's no way.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
He was arrested on a felony charge and booked in
County jail. He is released five thousand dollars bond.

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
He's previously been cited for trafficking fractions like careless driving,
probably because he's looking at the GPS on his phone,
operating a vehicle without an insurance, and driving a car
with expired registration. I have a question, how could you
even find a tracker on your phone? I mean, only
just on your car.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
I don't know what they didn't say in the article,
but so there's a couple of things that can happen.
I know with like Apple air tags, it'll actually alert
your phone even if it's not your air tag.

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
So like if an air tag been following you.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
It'll be like, hey, this air tag is near your
phone in case somebody tracking your ass. I don't know
if it does it with other tracking equipment, but it
could just be she was washing her car and sold
the ship or something.

Speaker 1 (01:31:15):
I don't Yeah, yeah, it could be any damn I know, right, yeah,
Like that's such a crazy plan. That's such a oh
my god, wow you shop here too, on this in
this Kroger thirty minutes across south of town. That's crazy girl. Anyway,
what you up to? You want to have sex again?
Remember that time we had sex. It's me the guy

(01:31:37):
you had sex with years ago that you ghosted. But
but it's crazy that we Medigan Karen guess the race
like Karen's going white.

Speaker 5 (01:31:45):
Michael, Yeah, I'm going white Chork spending money on a GPS.

Speaker 1 (01:31:50):
That's why. That's why the guack is extra. No how
they going to afford tracking devices on Chipotle cellary.

Speaker 5 (01:32:00):
I also feel like, what's the next step, Like once
you run into her rights, Like, what do you say
if you ain't.

Speaker 3 (01:32:06):
Got enough game to bring it up? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
And what if David was like I'm good, right, oh man,
let's see you white?

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
Like the TV show on Netflix arrested immediately White cracker,
barrel logo, White, watching too many rom coms, White, white, creepy,
white behavior.

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
White named Tyler that she didn't put a race. I'm
I'm thinking she's saying white. Uh, you sneak and remove
the tracker of Corneli. It's like, how do you know?
You're giving instructions what's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:32:35):
But what's going on?

Speaker 5 (01:32:36):
Man?

Speaker 4 (01:32:37):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
Somebody's white stalker man? The correct answer is white? Correct?

Speaker 3 (01:32:43):
Why the selling crackers like GPS crackers in the best
spot anyway?

Speaker 1 (01:32:49):
Yeah, I'm assuming.

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
So the legit use for trackers like this is stuff
like people put it on their luggage.

Speaker 1 (01:32:57):
I guess I don't know. I like, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
I don't do these things, so I don't know. I
feel like there's enough ways to track ourselves.

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:33:07):
It's like, well, you know now that you mentioned it, man,
Like I think I literally have the finder cue tracker,
like I got it at a conference or something that
was in the gift back.

Speaker 3 (01:33:17):
So uh, and I don't even know where it is,
but it's in my luggage.

Speaker 5 (01:33:22):
And every time I leave my luggage, they say, I
get alert of my phone, so yeah, which I always find.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
I thought was interesting the tracker on the air tag
on your luggage, because it's like, ain't shit I could
do about it, Like like you know the airport, I
already gonna tell you, like yeah, man, your shitn't newer.

Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
It's just like, yeah, okay, this is the most powerless
I've ever felt in my life. So I guess the
air tag just would have told me before you texted
me to be like, yo, shit ain't here. Because my
shit ain't here. What are y'all gonna do about my shit?

Speaker 1 (01:33:51):
That's what I want to know.

Speaker 2 (01:33:53):
But shout out to American Airlines because they got me
my bags within hours one time, and I was so
shout out they took care of me.

Speaker 1 (01:34:00):
But boy, let me tell you something most powerless I felt.

Speaker 4 (01:34:04):
Getting getting somewhere without getting it for your luggage. You're like,
wait a minute, Wait a minute, now, wait a minute.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
If they would have taxt me back like nigga, fuck
your luggage, it wouldn't have been nothing I could do.
It was just I had no recourse. I just didn't
have luggage till they were gonna decide that I could
have my stuff back. I would have begged them like,
please come on guys. They was like, it's coming to
you in a couple of hours. Just go outside, all right,
you guys are two for two. Yay. Yeah, So that

(01:34:30):
means we get the more racist version of the gus,
the races bonus round. Why I am racist?

Speaker 4 (01:34:41):
How can I be racist about anybody or any in
my life?

Speaker 1 (01:34:48):
How can I call them niggas?

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
Just call them niggas.

Speaker 9 (01:34:53):
It's big, high jumping, speed chucking three hundred and sixty
degree basketball.

Speaker 1 (01:35:07):
And that's why WFA an't call us back. As tensions,
that's how we can get that call back two vog as.

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
Tensions rise over recent ice rays across the country. Temple
University police are investigating a disturbing incident involving individuals impersonating
US immigrations and Customs for Enforcement Officers ICE on campus authority.
Set of suspects dressed in shirts with police and ICE
lettering UH. They were reported Saturday night at Insomnia Cookies

(01:35:38):
on Cecil be more av one of them was seen
recording the incident. So it's like a prank, like whereas
I don't even understand what because you don't have ICE authority. Also,
the irony of it being uh cecil be more a
civil rights activist.

Speaker 1 (01:35:57):
A I appreciate y'all putting that in the article. That
was very petty and thank you, hey.

Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
These motherfuckers was violating civil rights on Civil Rights Avenue.

Speaker 1 (01:36:08):
Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
Earlier that even in all three suspects allegedly tried to
enter the Johnson and Hardwick residence Harbor were denied access.
One suspect, Temple student Aiden Stiegelman, twenty two. He's the
guys who's race were guessing, has been arrested in charge
of in person ain't a public servant. He has also
been placed on interim suspension as the investigation continues. It
is deeply troubling and disappointing to no behavior like this

(01:36:31):
reportedly occurred on our campus, Temple Police said in a statement.
Authorities are still searching for two more male suspects connected
to the incident. Tim Police have released a photo of
the person of interest and are asking for public's helping
identify them. The incident comes just days after ice ray
was reported at a Philadelphia car wash. Following Trump's directive
to the port migrants involved in criminal activity. Amid concerns,

(01:36:52):
Temple Police have assured students and staff that no federal
ice agents have been seen on campus at least y'all
like stay tuned, But yeah, I guess the rights care
of mister what the fuck was his first name?

Speaker 1 (01:37:07):
Aiden Stegleman.

Speaker 4 (01:37:09):
Oh, white, you bold enough to improsonate officer? Okay, very
few black people do that, that's I hear.

Speaker 1 (01:37:15):
What about you, Mike?

Speaker 5 (01:37:17):
Yeah, I'm going white man, Like you know, black folks
ain't putting on like trying to be the police and
do police things. And I feel I also feel like
like doing it on a college campus just like fucking
with people, they're fucking with people, Yeah, just to be

(01:37:40):
fucking with.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
It felt more like a prank. It feels more like
a nitude prank than an actual life.

Speaker 3 (01:37:45):
This ain't a prank though, it's just like really a
like they just a hate crime.

Speaker 1 (01:37:49):
Like yeah, like you could get.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
It's the vibe that it feels like to me is
like if y'all remember when YouTube, like maybe fifteen twenty
years ago, when they first start the prank YouTube God
started and every once in a while they would delve
into those pranks where.

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
You like, that's just racist.

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
Yes, it feels like that type of thing where it's
like when they said one of the guys is recording it,
I'm like, why are you recording this unless it's like
to post somewhere and be like, guys, look what we did.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:38:21):
But yeah, the chap a black prank is is hiding
in the shower right, jumping out when somebody comes in
the youth. But the white prank they got, They bought
the Jason mass and a change. They go a little
further and the thing is costume involved.

Speaker 3 (01:38:38):
I feel like it's got it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
Yeah, costumings. And also the thing is you better be
careful mess with negros. They'll fuck you up. You go
high high, next thing, you know, you get your ass.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
I just think like there's certain things that are off
limits to black folks and race is one of those
things that you can't prank you you can't play with
everybody about right, and immigration feels close to race to
me in America doesn't feel like the kind of thing
that a black person would do.

Speaker 1 (01:39:05):
So I feel I see why y'all are guessing white
on this. So let's check the chat.

Speaker 5 (01:39:08):
Room, see and not black person. Remember it was multiple
people like that, what are your friend said?

Speaker 3 (01:39:15):
What you talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:39:16):
Man? Yeah, you're not gonna convince like faux black people
to do the prank. Yeah, yeah, that's possible. One in
the group. I was just kidding White. That's my favorite
part of the white people racist pranks is when they
be like they walk into this like I'm going in
the hood calling black people the N word, and then
the first time somebody's like, I will fuck you up,

(01:39:37):
white boy, they'd be like, I was just kidding. This
is a prank. It's a prank. The cameras over there
is like, that's not gonna save you. You called that
man the N word. He's liable to do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:39:46):
Stigel Man too easy, white jack booted Thugree white in
Cell White.

Speaker 1 (01:39:51):
It was just a prank. White Everything's joke. White stiegelm
and white former NBA player Old.

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
And Polities impersonated cop I think, but this is gonna
gotta be a white Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:39:59):
I still remember that. That was crazy too, because he
was old in Polonies and you in Utah, Nigga. Everyone
know who you are, and you're a seven foot tall
black man in Utah. You can't impersonate anybody, but you
you know, you could personate Karl alone. You could, You could, might,
you might convince one white person. You called him alone,

(01:40:20):
but everybody else know who the fuck you is?

Speaker 4 (01:40:21):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
Their idea funny is stuff that could get a black
person murdered. The whitest fakes Fagan being a cop can
get you hurt. Correct boldly in whiteness, white cosplay, and
the correct answer is everyone got it white.

Speaker 1 (01:40:45):
I just like he's a throwback, but you look like
an old school Larry Bird.

Speaker 3 (01:40:48):
Yes he does.

Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
It's like he would bust your ass for for for
double double. Y'all still make these I didn't know they
made white people like this billy jumping off the ground.

Speaker 3 (01:41:00):
I mean, like white people be having a lot of
free time they.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
Do, ru Why is this to think of something like that?
Where were you gonna post this?

Speaker 4 (01:41:11):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:41:12):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:41:12):
Who is the audience for this? Because I just imagine
you're gonna get docks and threatened the second that this
is online, gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
Be like you're fucking with people during the Trump administration
by pretending to be ice. Right, his name is Jordan
Stiegelman and his addresses you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:41:27):
Like, boy, I feel like.

Speaker 5 (01:41:28):
I feel like it was it was a hate crime.
And then when they got caught they said, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:41:35):
I can see that, because what were you gonna do?
Is my point? Like even hate times go the are
you gonna to deport somebody? Y'all got the deportation one.

Speaker 3 (01:41:47):
Y'all white version.

Speaker 5 (01:41:49):
Remember they used to say like if you flash your
head lights at somebody, person who flashed back there might
kill you because it's a gag. And this year, Yeah,
I don't care if it's true. This is my okay
theory about what white people do.

Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
Okay, now I'm with it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:02):
Boys, it's about times.

Speaker 2 (01:42:04):
Yeah, ceremony they yeah, they like put on the ice
gear and go out arrest, arrest to immigrant looking people,
and uh, you and the Proud Boys, that's all you
gotta do. Everybody arrests to people, get you get somebody
from recorded.

Speaker 5 (01:42:17):
Though, did you know, like when the Proud Boys were
coming up, like I was reporting on the prov Boys,
like right before everybody knew about it, did you know
that you have to go a.

Speaker 3 (01:42:29):
Certain amount of time without masturbating to your prob I do.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
I know Dante Narrow, the comedian that was like part
of the Proud Boys, but didn't know you're part of
the Proud Boys because he's black. It's very funny I mean,
obviously it's tragic, but it's also very funny that he
didn't know.

Speaker 1 (01:42:48):
But like he he does a lot of like this
is how you be a man, personal responsibility, this is
how you should talk to women, blah blah. And so
I think they took some of his ship, mixed it
with some of that plan. Me see it got proud boys.

Speaker 2 (01:43:03):
So he knew about the man ship where he's like, look, man, like,
you want to talk to no woman?

Speaker 1 (01:43:07):
Just you gotta confidence, you gotta And they was like,
you know what else? Black people need to go back
to Africa? You're like, whoa where that come from?

Speaker 3 (01:43:18):
I thought we was getting chicks.

Speaker 1 (01:43:19):
Listen, don't jack off. Okay, don't jack off. That's a
good idea. But also, ship, should Mexicans have rights? I
don't think so. And what's your name? Don't worry about
my name? It might it might be Enrique Trio, but
you don't need to look that up. There ain't got
nothing to do with this. Mexicans don't need rights. Uh

(01:43:41):
see you on January six? All right, last thing sor
ratching its long sound effect warning coming all right, sore

(01:44:08):
ratchets go around a glow. Five different articles involving swords.
Try to spread awareness so we can like help people.
Today's article is about a teen that was arrested for
cutting a family with a family member with a sword
multiple times.

Speaker 10 (01:44:23):
Oh a Rochester teen has been arrested after police say
he attacked a family member with a sword just after
two yesterday afternoon. Officers say they got a call about
family trouble at a home on Clifford Avenue, and when
they got there, police found a twenty nine year old
man with cuts to his head and face. Investigators say
that man had been arguing with a seventeen year old
who then used a sword to cut him multiple times.

(01:44:46):
The teen was taken into custody and the victim taken
to the hospital, luckily expected to recover.

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
I will say this, that is one way to get
around the old man streamp.

Speaker 2 (01:44:58):
Obviously ondor either because you tell me a seventeen year
old gotta fight a grown man, I'm like, it's not
gonna work out for you, buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:45:08):
Okay, we've all been there, We've all wanted to do it,
but it don't work.

Speaker 3 (01:45:13):
Swords game change, right, Yeah, a sword.

Speaker 5 (01:45:16):
I feel like though a teenager with a sword and
a grown and grown man strip a.

Speaker 1 (01:45:24):
It's like equals, it's fight the fair one.

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
It's closed because like what because the thing that a
seventeen year old normally don't have is the willingness to
do anything it takes to win, right.

Speaker 1 (01:45:36):
Which a grown ass man has.

Speaker 2 (01:45:39):
He ain't let because he can't live his life, and
especially if it's a family member, meaning you could be
his son, nephew or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:45:47):
He can't live in that house after you don't whoop
his ass mm hmm. So he got to win unless
you got a.

Speaker 3 (01:45:53):
Sword, right, like I am in the demographic of grown mans.

Speaker 5 (01:45:58):
Now, Yeah, and I feel like it's certain things like
I would take a chance with a young enough nigga
with a sword if they was fucking with me on
the wrong thing, right.

Speaker 1 (01:46:10):
I think?

Speaker 3 (01:46:11):
What if you?

Speaker 2 (01:46:12):
I think what I realized as I got older is
not that I feel like I got stronger as much
as I feel like I ain't gonna lose.

Speaker 5 (01:46:21):
Yeah, I'm not that strong, right, Like I'm not strong
or agile or athletic.

Speaker 3 (01:46:28):
I'm less athletic right ever been in my life?

Speaker 5 (01:46:31):
Right, But I also know and I also it's part
of arrogance too, like that yeah, right, Well, I.

Speaker 1 (01:46:38):
Just it's that I can't live with him beating me.
It's not that like like it's seventeen year old life
AHEADI you got, you got plenty of rematches, wins and losses.
Now I'm on the tail. I'm on the sidewhere. I
shouldn't even be fighting. I ain't that the trull. So
I can't. Yeah, I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
I gotta do whatever it takes because if whatever this
spot is, when I lose, I can't return.

Speaker 1 (01:47:02):
So if it's the basketball court, I can't come back.
So I went like, I don't want to fight you
as the last resort if I have to, but I
have to win cause I can't be in here on
Tuesday in the night. That's the grown man got his
ass whooped. I didn't understand that. When I was younger,
I was at a basketball court in Fairville, was playing outside,
and uh, it's old man named Joe. He was like
forty four and we were the average median.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
The median age of everyone else was probably twenty, okay,
and so he playing ball with us.

Speaker 1 (01:47:30):
Oh you know old Joe, and uh Joe, you know
cool for old man. No no problems with him. But uh,
high school kid comes out there and you know the
basketball court. You gotta ask for next. You gotta be like, yeah,
can I get next? Can I get next? And Joe
had next?

Speaker 2 (01:47:45):
Kid comes like, nah, I had next, and Joe's like, no,
I had next, And the kid goes, well, can we
just run together?

Speaker 1 (01:47:53):
And Joe says cool.

Speaker 2 (01:47:55):
Now the way next works in the in the area
I'm playing, people call next after next, next, after that,
and the other. So ain't like your shit need to
be tight, because no sympathy if it don't work out,
Like if you be like, oh man, buddy, skip me
or whatever, it's like, hey, that's twenty you and him, bro,
I just know that I got I'm the person that
was after that. Well it comes time to play. Kid

(01:48:17):
gets on the court. Oh man, I already got my people.

Speaker 1 (01:48:20):
Joe, I got five.

Speaker 2 (01:48:22):
You can't when he and Joe's like, motherfucker, I've been
sitting here waiting, not five people behind you, waiting. I like,
how you just gonna play me like that in front
of everybody, And the kid like laughed at him and
then just went and played.

Speaker 1 (01:48:35):
Basketball, right, And I think I had next. After Joe
and them, I was like, Joe, you can run with us,
cause I was just like, I don't want no smoke.
You forty four. I'm not. I'm twenty one. What am
I gonna die for? This shit I've been I've been
playing basketball in the hood way too long that I
know a crash out when I can feel it. I said,
this motherfucker crash out because he was hot, Yes, just

(01:48:57):
the disrespect. He was hot. And then we played the game.
Have to Joker barely concentrat on the game, was playing
against them, like I think them kids lost, and he
was just talking to motherfuckers on the sideline the whole game,
like Joe gonna fuck them kids up? Anyway, two weeks past, okay,
we don't play many a fucking game in two weeks time,
many a game in two weeks. Right, It's like another Sunday.

(01:49:18):
We're out there balling, middle of the day. Joe's out there.
Joe and this kid have seen each other a few
times in this two weeks like, and there ain't been
no problems for the record, like other than Joe being like,
it's fucked up what you did that day. And then
the kid been laughing about it and being like, come on, man,
you know it's my boys. All right. Two weeks later,

(01:49:40):
we on the sideline, Joe just.

Speaker 2 (01:49:42):
Walked up to the kids, said remember that shit you
did and knocked him the fuck out.

Speaker 4 (01:49:46):
Oh no, he had been thinking about that shit. That
shit bothered the fuck out of him. Hey, it bothered him, and.

Speaker 1 (01:49:55):
All I could that was when I got introduced that like,
oh okay, old man can't take a in front of
the young boy because you embarrassed. You would hope that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:03):
His ego would allow it, but I hope and what
is real are two different things. And what was real
was that he wasn't fitting to be looking like no
punk in front of us, even if I think that
was some sucker shit to hit that kid.

Speaker 1 (01:50:15):
Two weeks later, Joe did that shit, and Joe ain't
come back to the court for like three months. He
like he knocked that kid out because it.

Speaker 3 (01:50:24):
Was the hood.

Speaker 1 (01:50:24):
They was looking for him, so he was. He didn't
come back for like three months, and then three months
like he came back like nothing fucking happened. It was.
It was insane, But like I said, old man can't lose.
It's my point of that story.

Speaker 5 (01:50:37):
Yeah, man, And do you know how many fights you
have to pass over to get to be Yeah person
with old man like you gotta just let a lot
of shit go.

Speaker 1 (01:50:47):
Yeah, a lot of shit got slide. You gotta save
it up. That's why they got so much for that
one time they've been saving. That's a smart one that's
navigated forty five years of like not today, not but
but one day, but one day. Uh, Mike, man, can
you tell the people where to find you? Tell people
where to find uh contraband camp and all of that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:51:12):
Yeah, contraband, camp dot com you can find us.

Speaker 5 (01:51:16):
We have different writers and myself writing every day, uh
contraband camp dot com. And you can find us on
all of the social media platforms at M.

Speaker 3 (01:51:27):
I C H A E L H A R R
I O T and Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:51:32):
Man. It's always it's fun to have y'all. Like I said,
don't be a stranger. I wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:51:36):
I wasn't joking last year or whatever when I was like, Hey,
you don't have to have something to promote. Just come
on kick it and appreciate you reaching out.

Speaker 1 (01:51:44):
And uh yeah, man, make sure y'all stay connected to
the culture. We'll be back throughout the week. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:51:50):
Probably only do one or two more episodes this week
because uh uh, we didn't do a feedback show yesterday,
so I know this ship is gonna pile up, and
I know as people catch up, like an episode is
gonna three four hours because of y'all. And also, if
you're on YouTube, stop writing us about Blake Lively. I
cannot emphasize how much I don't give a fuck about

(01:52:11):
that shit. I feel how I feel. I'm not a lawyer.
I just think that nig did that shit. I don't
know what to tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:52:20):
It's just seemed people and shit, a dude being a
weirdo a lot more prominent than y'all think, I guess,
and I'm not litigating it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:27):
They should go to court for that shit. So if
you're expecting feedback on that, someone wrote like twelve paragraphs,
I was like, I read like a half of paragraphs, Like,
what is this?

Speaker 1 (01:52:36):
I forgot? We talked about that anyway he.

Speaker 3 (01:52:38):
Did it is a pr t for some shit they
didn't do.

Speaker 1 (01:52:41):
Yeah, no one does that, y'all. Y'all are that is weird?
They got you, They got you on that. That's weird anyway.
But we'll be back throughout the week.

Speaker 2 (01:52:49):
Thanks for listening, and uh, you know, good luck to
whatever you're rooting for, uh for the Super Bowl, I'm Kendrick.
I'm rooting for Kendrick for sure one percent. I'm conflicted
on which to these quarterbacks because I like Jalen Hurts
more than I like Patrick Mahomes, but also like.

Speaker 3 (01:53:06):
He's too handsome, man, Jayleen, he is so handsome.

Speaker 5 (01:53:09):
He is so handsome, and then and then he got
another handsome like it might get a handsome They are
very handsome, say Squad and Jaylor together.

Speaker 2 (01:53:17):
I just care Jalen feel he feel like a throwback
to me, though in a way that they don't make
black quarterbacks like this anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:53:26):
They like on the load, like Lamar Jackson's becoming excellent,
excellent passer, like like to the point where it's like
I feel disconnected from Lamar. I used to like when
I was like, hey, well watch when he runs this ball.
Watch this.

Speaker 2 (01:53:40):
Now you act there like I'm ana slice these niggas apart.
I'm throwing faux interceptions the whole season. I'm like, yeah, damn, brother,
you crossed over.

Speaker 3 (01:53:49):
He plays like he plays like the old old white quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (01:53:56):
I just feel like they're gonna get in the wishbone
on this ship like.

Speaker 5 (01:54:01):
Phil goals too, right, remember the quarterbacks used to pick Phil.

Speaker 3 (01:54:05):
I feel like one of those quarterbacks I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:54:09):
And then Patrick Mahomes like, obviously it would be dope
to see anyone win three in a row. Right, That's
what I'm which is low key more about my animosity
towards the Tom Brady error and not serve not necessarily
my love of Patrick mahons because his wife and his
wife is maga.

Speaker 1 (01:54:27):
I don't give about her, and I am to win
three in the row. And like I have to say,
low key mega by proxy, like you married her, like
I can't. I can't give you a pal if you.

Speaker 3 (01:54:37):
See his daddy though, like his daddy daddy is. Yeah,
his daddy balanced out all the mega.

Speaker 5 (01:54:43):
He's the opposite of the mega.

Speaker 1 (01:54:46):
I just I can't. I agree, I agree, but he
ain't his daddy. So like I feel like when they
be in that box, they know he married that white
he like you know, his daddy be like rolling his
I was like yeah, and and I and I'm ready
for people to get mad at Taylor Swift, like Taylor
Swift won them them rings.

Speaker 4 (01:55:07):
You know, the Swift needs are all gonna are gonna
contribute when the herd, they're gonna lose their mind.

Speaker 3 (01:55:12):
Okay, you know I just like you know that Taylor
Swift make them mad?

Speaker 1 (01:55:15):
Yes, you know what. I know what else though, you
know what else?

Speaker 2 (01:55:19):
You just made me realize they gotta cut to Taylor
Swift and Kendricks performance.

Speaker 1 (01:55:23):
Yes, because she's a Kendrick My god, she's yeah, she's like,
she gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:55:30):
Taylor Swift dancing.

Speaker 1 (01:55:32):
Yo, she's gonna be getting They say Kendrick got a surprise.
They say Kendrick got a surprise at halftime if he
brought Taylor Swift out and she was dancing to motherfucker
so the pedophile he won't. But but as moves, I've
been like, go Taylor, he won't. But if he did,

(01:55:55):
I can't imagine the more. That's why Drake in Australia,
he's just like, get as far away from them, cut
to nass boots. Let me get as far away from
this motherfucker on the planet Earth that if I could
go to space during the Super Bowl, I'd be on
SpaceX because I don't want to be here where they parted.
All right, y'all, we'll be back throughout the week. Thanks
for listening Until next time, Love you,

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