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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Let's get started with the story of the day.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
So, the FDA has announced they are officially banning red
dye number three, which is a synthetic dye made from petroleum,
since it has been linked to cancer in animals. Yeah,
the thing is is what year is it? Just I
just want you to repeat what year it is? Twenty
twenty five? I almost just said twenty twenty four. We
have it.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
It's back started.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
It's twenty twenty five. And they've known since nineteen eighty
that this causes cancer in animals. I'm confused because they
banned it in cosmetics in the nineties, So why did
it then take thirty years to ban in our foods.
What do you think it would be banned in foods
first and then cosmetics? All right, listen to this quote
from the FDA. Revoking the authorized use of red number
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three is an example of the FDA using its risks
and science based authority to review the safety of products
in the marketplace. Food and beverage companies will continue to
follow the latest science and comply with all food safety
regulations to ensure safe and available choices for consumers. Like, No,
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they've known since the eighties that it was a carcinogen.
You're not following science, because if you were, this would
have been off the market for my entire childhood, you
know what I mean? Like, Hello, why all of a
sudden today, Why? Well, they're saying that the Center for
Science and the Public Interest, which is a safety food
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a food safety advocacy group, petitioned in twenty twenty two
for them to reevaluate this. So they have allegedly known
this since the eighties, but waited for this advocacy group
to push for it three years ago. It's really weird too.
There has to be some reason behind it. I understand
for product marketing that you want things to be red.
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This is what the whole point of it is. It
makes foods red. Let me tell you some of the
things that it's in right now. Candy like pez double bubble.
I guess it's using it to make it the pink color.
It's in candy, corn, jellybellies, fruit by the foot, toaster strudles,
strawberry milk, popsicles, Maraschino cherries. And then what's even weirder
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is that it's in cough syrup, which, like, who the
fuck cares to how cough syrup looks? They actually make it,
they make it look more appealing than it is, and
then it's so gross. Like maybe if you just made
it a weird brown color, then people would expect it
to be gross and it wouldn't taste as gross. But regardless,
you could use beet juice and you could use strawberry
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juice to dye things red. There's plenty of companies right
now now that do it. So why do you have
to use this thing that everybody knows is toxic. I
guess it's cheaper, that's the bottom line. Probably, Yeah, it's
probably cheaper. I also saw that it's used in vegetarian meats.
It's also in thaile and all like things everybody's using
all the time. So so what really bothers me about
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this now too, is that they're they're now telling us, okay,
we're banning this, and it's bad and it gives at
least we know that it gives animals cancer in the laboratory.
I don't know if they've made one hundred percent of
a correlation with humans getting it but like, if they're
studying similar animals and they're getting it, then it's causing
changes in the DNA, which is causing cancer. But why
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is it that for food they're giving them an entire
two calendar years to not have it in the food anymore,
and for medicines three calendar years, So twenty twenty eight
they're no longer allowed to have it in their product. Well,
I just want to say probably from like a chemistry
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standpoint and everything, they have to remove it, They have
to see how it affects it, They have to try
out other dyes if they want to keep the signature
red hues, which I agree, it's ridiculous. Who cares what
color like bubble gum is or anything, right, it just
doesn't Why do we have to be in this world
where everything has to look perfect. There's actually this company,
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I think they're called Imperfect Foods, where their whole model
is they take ugly fruits and vegetables and sell them
for cheaper. Well. The thing is, though, is that this
argument it doesn't even matter because every there's multiple other countries, huge,
huge like continents Europe, Australia, right, that don't have these
dyes in their foods or they have severe limitations on
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using these kinds of products, and yet people they are
still eat and people there still buy candy and buy
food and it looks good to them.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Like it's just bullshit.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
It's just something that they didn't want to let go
of for whatever reason. And I mean, I'm glad it's
happening now, but also at the same time, I'm just like,
all right, well, my kids won't even be little kids.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
They'll be teenagers.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
When this happens, you know what I mean, Like thanks, Yeah,
I just don't want to kee for protecting us FDA
once again. We could we could always rely on you.
It actually is like more embarrassing to me that you
waited forty years after getting out. I know why they
waited because the dude that's about to come in has
been screaming about this forever and now he's going to
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be working there and putting pressure on them to do it.
But they wanted to say they did it before he
did it. Probably that's all all it comes down to.
Whatever it's I guess it's a good thing. Like, but
they're not prohibiting red dye number forty, which has been
linked to behavioral issues and children, and you actually know somebody.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
That this might have affected.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Well this when I was a little kid growing up
in the early eighties, my next door neighbor he was
he was awesome, but I guess he was just like
he was like what you call like a bad kid,
a bad boy. He was just hyper. He probably had
add or whatever, who knows, but I remember like when
he would come over our house and play and stuff,
his mom was always like, he can't eat red popsicles
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and he can't have red dye because it makes them crazy,
and that that like really wasn't any scientific thing. It's like,
I think it's kind of cool that just like a
housewife was just noticed that and was like that every
time my kid has that, he's a crazy person. Like
I can't have him having it anymore. And that information
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about it, maybe they're still saying it may be linked
to hyperactivity. And then they did studies and they were like,
we couldn't find a correlation, and I'm just like, there's
probably a correlation. And I always I limit that stuff
as much as possible with the girls, you know, like
on a day to day basis, Like I said, in
the last episode, they go on when we go on
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trips and stuff, they have candy or whatever, but like
I don't. I've even stopped doing like lucky charms and
things like cereal that they would eat every day.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
That it's just not good.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
They're saying there's over ninety two hundred items that have
this red dye in it. So I think everybody, if
you're concerned about this, need to just look at the
ingredients because, like you said, it's gonna take at least
two years for foods and three years for medications to
take this out. So it's gonna be a while. Okay,
celebrity news, this story is nuts. Ten years ago, there
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was this wellness influencer. Her name was Belle Gibson. So
she got popular. Her name's Belle Gibson. Yeah, it just
sounds like very close to mel Gibson. Like it's no.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Funny Bell Gibson.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Okay, she I think she's from Australia.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Is that her real name?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Well?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I don't know me, yeah, because I think she Go ahead, we'll.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Talk about that at the end. So she got popular
on social media because she claimed she cured many health issues,
including terminal brain cancer, with just a healthy diet, exercise,
and holistic medicine, so she was saying this all started
she got the HPV shot, and that she was saying
the cancer she was diagnosed with spread to her spleen,
her liver, her uterus and into her blood and then
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she had briefly died during some medical procedure. So I
guess with the success of her social media accounts, she
made this wellness and health app and then she also
got this book deal where she was going to write
this cookbook. So right before her book was set to
be released in the United States and UK in twenty fifteen,
this Australian news outlet did this like investigative journalism on
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her and found she was making the whole thing up. Well, listen,
I told you that I have I put I know
someone who faked cancer through a friend. Yes, and you
hear about these stories too, of people faking cancers for
gofundmes and this and that, and they all have something
in common, which is none of them are educated in pathology.
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And they say things that that any doctor or any person,
any PA, any person that takes care of cancer patients
or treats cancer or diagnosis cancer, call bullshit on right
away when they hear it. They're like, hmm, that doesn't
make sense. So right off the bat she was saying
she got it from the Gardasil HPV vaccine. I couldn't
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even find any conspiracy theories that there's a link between
brain cancer and HPV shots. There's a lot of people
who are against the HPV shots, but it's not because
they think that it increases the risk of brain cancer.
So that was the first thing that you're kind of like, hmm,
that's a little weird. But then she said she had
brain cancer, which the most common one would be glioblastoma multiforme,
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which is called a GBM, and they're super super they're
deadly cancers. Like really, if you have a diagnosis of that,
only one percent of people live ten years after that.
So think about that. It's just a really deadly cancer.
Most people that get it die within a year or
a year and a half of getting diagnosed with that.
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When you talk about different cancers, and like regular people
don't realize this, but certain cancers behave in a certain way.
Gleoblastoma typically does not metastasize. It's kind of rare for
it to metastasize or spread to other organs. So right there,
that would just be rare if that happened anyway, But
almost all of the time when it does, it goes
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to like the lungs or the liver. There's I don't
know if there's any documented cases that it's ever metasticized
to the uterus. That's just outrageous. So when I hear that.
As soon as I read that, I was like, yeah,
bullshit for a person like me or anybody else that
works in this field, you know. So what made them
kind of decide that she was making this up? Because
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I think, like, if you heard this, you wouldn't really
think anything of it, you know. So there is multiple
red flags like everything you were saying, and I guess
medical professionals questioning it. And then she had, you know,
been bragging about all these charities she donated to and
they were like, we've never gotten money from her anything.
And then when they called her out on it, she
did admit she made it all up.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Why did she do that?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Just so? I mean obviously like she became, she made
a career out of it. So it was that the
reasoning or this check is so whack. So I said, she's.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Out of her fucking mind.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Actually, that ideo you sent me earlier. Yeah, I sent
you this clip of her on sixty minutes and I
can't even like kudos to this reporter that was interviewing her,
because I would be losing my mind, you know. They
asked her simple questions like how old are you? And
she was like, well, I was raised to believe I
am currently twenty six, and the lady the lady was
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like that, Well, the reporter was just like, how old
are you? This is a basic question, and she was
she just kept dodging the question. It was so weird.
And she's like and then the reporters like, well, on
this paperwork we have, it says you're twenty three.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
And then she's like, yeah, I am twenty three.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
But then she said, well, she start, I don't really
know anything. This is the first time today that reading
this article that I even heard of this lady. But
she said something along the lines of she's had four
different birth certificates that had different birthdays and stuff and names.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
She said she had four different names.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yeah, so Belle Gibson is probably not her real name.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
No, it's probably not.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
But yeah, then according to this article, she was hit
with a million dollars in fines after a federal court
judge found that she knowingly deceived cancer patients. Also in
this sixty minutes article, they were inquiring, like, how do
you feel knowing that you possibly steered some cancer patients
away from getting actual treatment because you were saying that
your holistic methods cured you. And she she was saying
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that wasn't her goal and she didn't know that would happen.
What did you think was gonna happen?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
So I don't know anyway.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Why this is relevant today is because those reporters had
written a book about her called The Woman Who Fooled
the World, and now Netflix has taken that book to
inspire a new show they have coming out in a
couple weeks called Apple Cider Vinegar. They said, this show
is not an exact retelling of her life, but it
has definitely been inspired by her story. So okay, so
it's not it's not a documentary. It's more it's it
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has actors in it. So, and I believe the main
character has her name, which is probably not her real name,
but I think the main character's name is gonna be
Belle Gibson, and then it's gonna be loosely inspired off
of this book. I'm gonna make up a fake name
instead of like, let's think of like a Hollywood a
popular Hollywood heart throb, Brad Pitt.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I'll make my name Mad Pitt. Like it's just so outrageous.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
If she really did take the name from mel Gibson,
that's kind of a wild person to take a name from.
I don't I don't know what you would be thinking. Honestly,
reading obviously reading the story, you're like, Okay, this person's
like not all there, something's not right. But when I
watched that sixty minutes clip, I was like, Wow, this
is really a person that like if you were exposed
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for something like this, would you ever then go on
television to talk about it?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
No?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
But I mean some people just they negative press is
good press, Like they just don't care what press. So
I looked up her cookbook and there was a listing
for it on Amazon, but it says it's out of
print and it doesn't look like you could buy You
could probably get it on eBay. The publisher got like
a lot of shit because I think it was Penguin
or one of these huge publishers that was just like
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how are you publishing a book on a fraud? I mean,
I guess the thing is is that you know a
person from you sign on a person from social media
and stuff. It's like, no one at the book company
shortly based on our experience, it's like doing all this
legwork behind the scenes to be like finding out if
these people are their stories are correct or medically accurate
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or whatever.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Right, it's just.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, I mean, they're certainly not giving you a background checker,
being like hand over your medical record so we could
confirm her not making it up. Yeah, they're just signing
way too many people and doing way too many books.
Like they just don't have the resources to do something
like that. So I mean, I kind of don't blame
them if it Why would you, like, just in good faith,
why would you ever think that somebody would be making
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something like that up.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
That's the thing.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Well, I don't know, but it's kind of this thing
we've talked about before and in the Gross Room, we've
had an interview with a forensic psychologist who explains that
people like this just start off with really small lies
and then it eventually progresses into something like this, and
she probably loved all the attention she was getting for it,
and it just kind of spirals out of control. It's
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a form of Manchausan's you know, just like get you
enjoy the attention for being sick, which is it's just
so gross for regular people that are dealing with cancer
that someone would actually be trying to I mean, this
woman profited off of it and then didn't even put
any of I mean, she wasn't even donating all the proceeds,
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but she didn't even donate the little bit to actual
cancer patients. But well, this is reminding me. I told
you I watched that docu series about The Gray's Anatomy
writer Elizabeth Finch and how she basically started telling everybody
she had this really rare bone cancer because it's something
that not a lot of people have knowledge on. She
was most likely not going to run into anybody that
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had the same diagnosis as her. And then it kept
escalating where there was a shooting at a synagogue. She
said it was her synagogue. She had actually never been
in that area before, and all this stuff, and then
it just blew up in her face. So they made
this documentary exposing all her lives with her wife and
everything saying I truly married this person thinking they were
a cancer patient, and then I married them only to
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find out they were lying. And you know, she's still
getting criticism because she's still active on Instagram, which is unbelievable.
I would go into hiding and she was posting about
the LA wildfires, and everybody's like, why would we believe
your account of this stragedy when you've lied about everything else?
Oh my god, you have to go and hiding or something.
If I just I don't know, I guess I guess
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it's part of it that you just don't understand. But
you are. You're a fairly let me state that fairly
normal minded person that you you would care that you're
that people thought you were an asshole and stuff like
when when these people aren't thinking anywhere near normal, you know,
so they're not embarrassed in the slightest, the weirdest thing ever.
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All right, So Kate Middleton News on Tuesday shoe wait,
are we allowed to talk about Kate Middleton? Because people
get they want to like cut our heads off when
we talk about Kate Middleton. There are just certain topics
which I will say, the Royal family is one that
people get so angry about on social media. Really they
they hate the other one so much wit like they
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wanted they just like want these people to be banished
off the earth. And then if you say anything about
Kate having cancer, they're just like, you know what I mean,
like freaking out on you that you're that you're exp
and blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Like it's it is kind of comical.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Actually, well, we had that story talking about a theory
that she was possibly faking her cancer, and then we
posted said and I said that I The funniest part
was that I said that I didn't agree with it,
and I was debunking with the person said, yeah, but
it doesn't matter because you said her name, therefore you're
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an asshole. We got so much hate on that clip
it becomes comical at a point because you're like, you're
clearly not even listening to it. We're defending her. Yeah,
I was literally defending her anyway. So so now she's
saying that her cancer is in remission. And I've said
this before on this show. I hate that particular word.
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I guess remission for people they think that a lot
of times. The way that it's portrayed is that they
don't have cancer anymore. And I that's why I think
certain words like that aren't used as much. Sometimes they
say no evidence of disease anymore because it's a little
bit more clearcut. But when you're in remission or there's
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no evidence of disease, it's exactly what that says, that
there's no evidence that you have cancer right now. Though
that's the most important thing to know is that it's
right now. And there's some doctors that say after five
years that you don't you're cancer free. I'm from the
school of thought that you never say cancer free. It's
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just kind of dangerous to put in patients' minds because
there's certain cancers, like breast cancer, for example, is one
of the most common ones that a woman could have,
and it could pop up like ten years later, so
and you might not have any evidence of cancer all
that time, and then all of a sudden they have
a weird nodule like in their lung, and then they
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do testing on it and it's breast cancer that had.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Spread, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
And I don't want to say that to scare people,
because that's rare when that happens. But I've seen it happen,
so just that terminology. And the reason is is because
once a cancer it becomes more advanced, it could get
into the body. And even if they're able to kill
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all of the cancer cells that are circulating around the body,
the fact that one of them got out, it just
it's hard to just say for sure that they're all
taken care of because there's not one hundred percent a
way to really know that. So I'm glad to hear
that she is in remission or she has no evidence
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of disease at this point, and I'm sure she has
the best doctors ever. I think our friend, doctor Lindsay Fitzharris,
went to a similar the same hospital or something she
was telling me, and she had excellent care there. So
I mean it makes you think if you had some
serious thing that you would go to over.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
There to get that done.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Because they're like really on top of their shit and
know what they're doing with her, and we don't know
what she has. She never came out and said it. Well,
obviously we know why, because people like assholes like me
are going to speculate. Well, I think, yeah, I think
they're going to be really on top of it, and
you know, like you're saying, I think people hear that
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their cancer free and then they don't go through with
their routine checks. But you have to keep going back
and getting checked. But I don't think that's gonna happen
in her case. Yeah, it's and it's just you don't
want to give. You don't want to give people you
want exactly, Like think about a person that might have
breast cancer and then five years later, they're just kind
of like, oh I didn't I don't have any evidence
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of disease. Right, they might not go to get their
their checks they're yearly checks anymore because they're like, I
had it, but it's it's not, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
And then that's how people could get into trouble.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah, all right. Jimmy Kimmel recently went on Nicole Buyer's
dating podcast, and she had asked him if he had
any tips for people getting into relationships, and he replied, quote, really,
what kills you and I think especially for guys, is masturbating.
What's that? What is that? Who's that person she's from?
Nailed it, like the main check on nailed it? Oh
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really yeah, okay, I yeah, I like you know, I
don't have any or the worst with names.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I'm the nurse, I'm the worst with a pop culture.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
To an extent, I I kind of find him to.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Be super annoying.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I feel like he's gotten very like he used to
be fun and like now he's kind of like uptight.
And but this comment I agree with him honestly, Like
I think, not stop masturbating necessarily, but I think he
brought up a point of pornography and that it's very
easy for men to just be in these relationships with
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between only fans and pornography, that it's kind of like
they're getting what they need to get off and they're
not going out there and trying to find a relationship.
This is if a person wants to find a relationship,
I guess. But shit is just outrageous. Now there's like
dolls you can get and they're you could use apps
and we so it's.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Like like if you just if you don't.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Want to deal with the naggy wife, then I mean
it's like a good it's a good thing. But that
I mean that just is loneliness and everything. And I
think excessively excessively watching porn kids set up really false
expectations for a sex life. With a regular person that's
not a porn star, right, Personally, I think it's more
just like the the why why go out? Like why
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would you date five different women and take them out?
You have to pay for them to have dinner, and
then you have to talk to them and if they suck,
you got to hang out with them the rest of
the night and all this stuff. And now like there's
all like women are like not doing stuff like that
as much anymore, and also like there's not there's a
high probability that the chick's not even going to go
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home with you and like at least give you a
bloil job or something. So like why bother with all that?
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Just like stay.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Home with your your porn bot with you know, attach
it to your app and just like get off that
way and it's it's free, you know. But then people
aren't making connections with humans, which eventually maybe when you're
sixty years old, you don't want to be doing that anymore,
and you're like, wow, I wish I had a lady
to go to the casino with and stuff like that,
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you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
But that's my theory, he said.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
He told two of his friends this theory of his
and then they found their wives a month after they
stopped messing with it, which is which is like, if
that's true, it's kind of amazing. But I, like I
one hundred percent believe it, because if a guy stops masturbating,
like the next day, he's going to be like, oh,
I got to go out. I gotta go, like meet somebody.
Let me go to like a hair salon or something.
I don't know where you can meet a woman really easily.
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And the mall we always have. We always had that
with like my friends and I when we were younger,
like where you know, where could we meet guys? Like obviously,
like we always said, Wow, I was like the best
because there's like the cops and the firemen all that
like blue collar like hot construction workers and stuff are
all getting their coffee in the morning. It's a very
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good place to meet men very early in the morning.
Home depot good place to meet dudes like just walk
look all cute and be standing in an aisle with
like electric wire and just be.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Like, I don't know what I need.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I saw I saw a video on Instagram recently that
some woman did that she was like, can you help
me with this and then they ended up getting married
or something.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Yeah, it's like it's kind of genius.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Or where where can mango that they could be in
a situation that a woman might see them and be.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Like I can help you.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Well, I'd say like Michael's or something, but I'm like,
I'm obviously a married woman, but like I also go
to Michael's like looking my most disgusting self because I'm
just buying like thread or there's a fine line though.
You don't want to do to be at a store
that's like suit a little too feminine because you want
to want to be too obvious. Yeah, like like they're
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like looking at panties and in Victoria's secrets or something.
You might be like, Okay, this is why is he
in here?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
This is weird?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Well yeah, I would say like home goods, a craft store,
like like places places that are more woman heavy but not.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
But not too feminine, is what I'm getting at.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Also, if you follow Patty Stagger's rules of meeting like
a wealthier guy, she says, go to a really nice
restaurant and sit at the bar in a really nice outfit.
Yeah maybe, but like, uh see for me, I don't
follow those rules because I'm not a bar person well,
and I don't want to be in I actually don't
want to be with a bar person either, So like
that to me is yeah, coffee shop. I guess you
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just want to get like the wah wah is. That's
my that's my.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Theory, and it worked for me.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
The guys are all like sweaty and dirty and in
their uniforms and stuff, and they're like tired, and.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
It's it's it's good.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
It's hard for us to talk about this subject though,
because you met gabah blah blah. I met my husband
at a bar the old school way. It's just like
people don't really just have meet cutes like that in
person anymore.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
So like you have to think of dating in the.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Day and age of technology. I understand that people do that,
but there's really no reason that you still can't meet
people in person because there's you know what I mean,
Like you're still going out in public all the time.
I just think that people are a little bit more
reserved now and it's just easier to like I said,
like back in the day, you would just go on
lots of dates and find the person that you were
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attracted to.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
And stuff.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
But now and a lot of times for people that
can't or don't want to settle down because they they're
looking for like a perfect person. It's like like think
about let's say, for example, think about MoMA and pop up.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
We're younger.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
It's like all you do is date the people that
are around you, right, It's like whoever you go to
school with, whoever lives in your town. And my dad,
my mom was so happened to like be a secretary
at a car dealership and my dad was a mechanic
working there. So he was from Philly and she was
from Concha Hocken, but like she worked with them. Like
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you only had a small circle of people that you
were around. Now you have the entire world to choose from.
So like it's not it's kind of not good. Well yeah, way,
I think that's a problem too, because I think if
you do meet a person locally to you and you're
dating them, I think because you have access to going
on these dating apps or social media and seeing other
(28:32):
attractive people that live in other parts of the world,
it starts you making like making decisions like well, what
if somebody else is better and they just don't happen
to live near me. Yeah, so I think that could
cause a whole other set of problems. But I don't know.
It's it's definitely an interesting topic. Tell us how you
met your significant other. We are very interested. Okay, we're
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like on such a tangent freak accidents, all right. This
twenty one year old in Nepal suddenly developed piercing pain
in her right ear, followed by hearing loss, vertigo, nausea,
and ringing. So about a week later she got it
checked out by doctors. And what did they find. They
went into her ear and they found a dead tick
adherent to the inside of her ear. I hate this
(29:18):
idea of bugs crawling in your ears. I know it's
something that happens. I just don't like thinking about it.
I might want to put earplugs in my ears or something.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I know.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I feel like, you know, when you're standing there and
a bug flies near you and you could hear their wings,
it's like the most disturbing sound ever.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah, it's I just I would freak out.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
And it happened really quick for her.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
She got something called labby ryntheitis, which is this part
of the ear that causes you to it's responsible for
your balance, it's responsible for that, and that's what could
make you kind of nauseous and stuff. So that part
of the ear got inflamed and they don't think it
was from the hick itself, but more of the enzymes
(30:02):
in the saliva that caused it to get like kind
of angry, you know. But she it seems like she
was only having this like extreme pain in this and
that and went to the doctor right away.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
So she did what she was supposed to do.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
But just I mean, like, obviously it's a hole and
a bug is going to find its way in. It's
just so disturbing, you know. Yeah, it's we have a
couple cases in the gross room of like spiders and ants.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Ants are so gross too, Like, uh, this episode is
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It is only five ninety nine a month. Okay, true crime,
all right. So back in twenty sixteen, this Texas cop
(31:26):
was accused of putting dog feces in a roll and
leaving it for a homeless man to eat, which thank
god he did not eat. And then that same year
he was accused of pooping in the woman's bathroom at
his police department and smearing it all over the toilet
seat afterwards.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
The fuck is wrong with this person, don't I don't.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Know what could possibly be going through your mind, but
obviously this doesn't seem like the characteristics of you know,
a police officer. You want your force. So he ended
up getting fired in twenty sixteen, then he appealed the firing.
In twenty nineteen he got rehired, and then in twenty
twenty he got fired again when the judge upheld the
decision to fire him. So now there is outrage because
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he's been hired at a different police department one hundred
and fifty miles away. Why would you want your picture
all over the news like this for something like this.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
I don't think people were thinking about that when they're
doing it.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
And he didn't admit. He kind of admitted to doing it,
but he was just like, oh, it was you know
how when you watch Happy Gilmore and he's about to, like,
I don't know if he was going to hit Bob
Barker with like a rake or something, he was about
to like stab someone with a rake. And he went
up to the girlfriend because he was supposed to be
on good behavior and he was just like, oh, I
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was just throwing it in the woods so it could
be with its family. Like that is what this story
sounds like to me. He's just like, oh, I put
the poop in the bread in a container for the
homeless man to discard it, Like what who would do that? Exactly?
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Nothing even makes sense about it.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
And it's I mean, like, obviously the guy didn't need it,
just because just because you're homeless, you're not frigging moron.
Like it smelled like shit, and dog shit smells the
worst of all shits. Yeah, I have, I've I've I'm
a connoisseur of shit because I've been around it so much,
and it just is the worst smelling shit in my opinion.
And like picking up a freaking sandwich and putting up
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to your face, I'm sure you would have realized that
it had shit in it. Yeah. So the new department
is saying that basically, they did a background check. They're
very aware of his previous actions, but since they rehired there,
since they hired him in late twenty twenty three, he's
been a great cup and there's nothing to question it.
So yeah, nothing to see here. I don't know. I
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just I think this is disturbing behavior of a law
enforcement It is, and you can you.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Can get sick from that.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
It's a fecal oral contamination with animal poop. I mean,
dogs have parasites, bacteria there. Even if the guy picked
it up and realized it, he could have still got
some on his hand and he could have got sick
from that. It's just like, it's just fucking gross and
it's weird. This is also not his only offense. I mean,
I question anybody that wants to touch human shit and
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their own shit and then smear it all over. Why
are you going in the women's bathroom and taunting the
women in the police department. It could be the same. Listen, this,
this exact story happened to act me, Like, how did
poop get on the seat and on the floor?
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Like maybe he was just squatting over the toilet.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Well, you have a pretty good story from one of
our dear friends, lar Lee. So Lara had be crying yesterday.
Should I read the text? Just read the text, all right,
cause I think that, like I'm reading this and she
doesn't normally like send me a bulk of texts, So
it's you know, it's it's a long story. Don't say
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the teacher's name though when you get to that. Okay, Okay,
I won't. I won't say the name of the place either.
But she says, when I was nineteen, I worked at
a deli in william Town, New Jersey. It was next
to a nicer trailer park on the black Horse bike
which is like, okay, Lara, there was this couple who
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is probably in their fifties. The guy was a little
off and they would come in on the first and
the fifteenth of the month. I could only imagine that
he wore boxers or no underwear at all. One day,
my coworker and I were either making meatballs or frying eggplants,
or doing some other thing that kept us distracted enough
(35:30):
not to notice that he had come in, not ordered anything,
and gone into the back room. The deli wasn't big,
it was just a deli counter floor in the back
room where we had mops and made the meatballs and stuff.
We walked into the back room and so he's just
standing there staring at us, and we were like, what
are you doing back here? He got nervous and said,
(35:53):
I gotta go and left. Not long after, we noticed
that there was a poop log on the floor. That's
what she called it, a poop log. Okay, now, there
was definitely not enough time in between when we noticed
he wasn't there and when he pooped that he could
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have taken his pants off, So we imagined that.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
He just let.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
I just keep Oh my god, I'm crying. I just
I just keep picturing Laura tell this story, which is
like we should have just had her on to tell it,
because it's even freaking better. But she goes, so we
just imagined that he let the log rolled down his
pants before he ran away.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Oh my god, I gotta keep.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I'm gonna fuck up my mess. Garet all right. Luckily
we had the wife's phone number. We called her and said,
your husband pooped on our floor.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
And you need to come over and cleaned it up.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
She was embarrassed, but she came over fleeth it up.
Then she says, in retrospect, I think the funniest part
was our reaction to the lowly turd sitting on the floor.
We were yelling at the thing like it was gonna bite.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Us or something. She literally had to cut this and
edit it. She was crying for five minutes.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
It's so so wait, so wait, I got it. So
something else fucking hilarious happened because of Laura too. So
how did it start? All right? It's it started yesterday
with we picked the kids up from school and and
one of my kids said that a kid in her
class got yelled for saying something inappropriate in school, and
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she didn't want to tell us what it was, and
she was being all like, I can't say it. We're
just like just fucking say and tell us what the
kid said no, and she's all like she's all like
giving us code and trying to like make us figure
it out, and off we can't figure it out. And
then finally she said it's it's a bird. And then
another second words after the tea and the second word
(38:09):
starts with the T. So I was just like cock
something I don't know, like what Kurz words begin with
a bird, right, And it was like no, no, and
then I said what's the fucking bird? Like it was
so ridiculous. And then finally she's like, it's a hawk.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Who We're like, oh, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Literally, I had no idea and I was like, booth,
just freaking say the word. And then she finally says
hawk two, and I was like, this is just fucking
great that this is what children in in sixth grade
are saying out loud, right, So anyway, it just it
was funny. And then it went down this road of like, oh, well,
at least I didn't say blunkin' right, so I'm like,
(38:56):
what the fuck is blunkin' right? So then she goes,
WAA taught us water. It taught us that it's when
you pulieve on someone's chest. This is my best friend,
one of my best friends is telling my children about this, right.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
I don't even believe them.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Well, they know I do, I do, I dos, so okay,
so I'm like okay, And in my mind I'm thinking like, oh,
I know another term about that. But I guess they
have all their words these days. I don't know, right.
So then Maraya whispers in my ear like thank god,
they don't know about urban dictionary or whatever, and I
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was like, no, urban dictionary is still a thing.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
I've seen it, right. So of course last night I
go I'm telling my husband story and he.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Goes a fluff gets that foo on someone's chest.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
It's when on the toilet you give it them.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
A flu job. It's like what?
Speaker 3 (39:54):
So then I go on Urban Dictionary and he's like,
you need to look up Cleveland Steamer.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yeah, yes, that's what I thought it was too. So
then I screenshot both of them and said it to you.
It's a classic mix up. I still haven't even texted
her and yell letter, but she'll probably listen to this
episode before I get a chance to do that. But
I'm just like, that's great. So now I got to
pray that my children don't say the word blunkin today
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at school before I could like sit them down, and
like I already had to explain to them the hawk
two situation, which is funny because actually Laura's kid heard
that in school too, So this is like a thing
that twelve year olds eleven year olds are talking about
right now, which is awesome, but yeah, fucking good story, man,
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So a real friend teaching your kids, you know, I'm like,
you can't even get it right fucking blunking, could you imagine?
Because all listen, a lot of the teachers at the
school are like around my age, so so they know
so they know at least like I didn't know that one,
but I know a lot of them dirty whatever. Well
(41:03):
when I was in middle school, we had Urban Dictionary,
so yeah, I know them so but I didn't know
that one. But I'm like, if like Ricky knew right away.
So I'm like, if if they say that, there might
be it's like the teachers know what talk to is
like they know what's going on. Everybody knows what's going on,
so like, just keep your fingers crossed that one of
(41:23):
my children don't use that word in school today. Well,
now since she's in hiding because of your weird crypto scheme,
maybe the term will go away. Oh my god. Yeah,
I don't even know what's up with that. She she
shouldn't even have had five Like, just don't get me
started on that police. She's on fucking Bill maher for that.
(41:44):
Like like I went on his on his uh Instagram,
and I was just like, why don't you fucking interview me?
Like the interview somebody's actually doing something in the world.
What the fuck you interviewing this girl for? Because it
gets downloads, It's it's ridiculous, and and she's not like
going back to your whole porn theory, so it's like
she's not saying anything mind blowing, like okay, like yeah,
(42:09):
but people have very small minds and that's what they
like clearly. Okay, I'm trying to my whole like face
is wet. Okay, medical news, I'm trying to compose myself.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Medical news.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Speaking of weird shit, this Italian soccer club, Lasio, had
this guy whose job is to handle their mascot, which
is an Eagle. I think the Eagles have a guy
like this too. There's a guy on the Ocean City
boardwalk that it might not be an eagle. There's like
some crazy hawk.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Well this this this speaking of.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Hawks, I think its name is Hawk two. This this
guy's job is this title is a falconer. So the
falconer for this soccer team. He basically got fired because
he posted pictures of his penile implant on social media
and they did not want to be affiliated with somebody
(43:05):
like that. At first, I thought, I don't know what
I thought. I thought maybe it would have been like, uh,
the actual implant, you know, like the far so when
you get a penis implant, they do it for people
that have a rectile dysfunction, but I guess you could
get it for for cosmetic purposes too. But the erectile
(43:28):
tissue that's in the penis that normally fills up with
blood to cause an erection, there's these two caverns inside
of the penis. There's like cylindrical like a tube thing
inside of the penis, right, and they put these these
cylinders up inside of these tubes, and these cylinders could
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then be filled with saline, so they could be you know,
because you don't want to walk around with an erection
all the time. So they they get hard, they get soft,
like you fill it up with saline, it gets hard.
Put it down when you don't need the erection anymore.
And I thought that maybe he would be showing a
picture of the penile implant, which I just was like, Okay,
it's kind of weird and inappropriate, but what's the big deal.
(44:11):
But I now I'm seeing he posted an Instagram story
with a video of him, like full frontal or something
like that.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Yeah, it's not it's not like a picture of the implant.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
It's a full on dick pic. Yeah, And that, to
me is is kind of weird. I mean, it was
a private account, it's but I mean, I guess it's
just kind of it's weird and they don't want to
be associated with it.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Like, so, I mean, it's a private account, but someone
saw it and reported it to somebody, and apparently there's
a video floating around online of it. So please if
you find it, please send it to me. But I
couldn't find it as of now, but I only spent
like five minutes looking for it. But well, I think
I found it, but it was on an extremely shady
(44:57):
website and I really didn't want to get my computer
like hacked five minutes. I did that too, and I
and then it it just pulled up like a porn video,
and I'm just like, what the fuck am I? Even
I was like in semi dark web territory, remember one billion?
Speaker 3 (45:13):
You were going through her iPad searchistory and she coogled,
like how do you get on the dark Web or something?
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah, it was like how do you how do you
get on the dark Web? And I was like, why
do you want to go on the dark Web. She's like, well,
I don't understand what it is. Jesus is why I
Thank god they don't have very of a dictionary. Yeah,
so well, this isn't really the first problem they had
with him, they were saying back in twenty twenty one,
he had been suspended because he filmed performing a fascist
(45:40):
salute at the end of a match. So I don't
really know. Maybe they were just like, this is a
final straw. Yeah, I mean it's listen. I think it's weird.
Nobody nobody wants to see even a good natural penis
like put it away, Like nobody wants to see that
on Instagram. So it's just not it's not like a
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girl show on her boobs. It doesn't have the same
effect on women at all, or men.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
It just does. I don't think it does.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Well, maybe it does, since everybody's so addicted to porn anymore.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
Maybe free all right.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
In this next case, the twenty three year old guy
stuck a bidet hose up his butt for sexual pleasure.
He said he did it before and didn't have an issue,
but of course this time it got stuck. And the
pickle in this particular situation is that the hose was
still attached to the bathroom and a plumber had to
come detach it before he could go to the hospital. Yeah,
so imagine this guy's twenty three years old and he's
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living with his mom, and he's in the bathroom and
he puts this bidet in his ass and it gets stuck,
and he tries the message he tried before when it
gets stuck, and it didn't get stuck, but he was
in there apparently for hours trying to get it out
and he couldn't. And this particular, the way that I
could describe it is like I actually just used a
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bidet for the first time on my trip because one
of the toilets had it.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
Well, this is the hose obviously.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
That's what I'm saying is so the ones that are
for se I don't know because I haven't been to
houses with them, But like this is this specific toilet
seat that like squirts up. Oh, but this particular one
that we're talking about with the guy, all I could
say is it's similar to a hose that you might
(47:23):
have at your sink in your kitchen, that it has
a sprayer and this long hose that attaches to plumbing
inside of the wall. So that's what that Biday looked like.
I mean, it almost looks exactly like that, except it's
all metal. It's not a plastic handle and the and
the the hose has that metal ring around it as well.
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So he was stuck and he called his mom, and
I mean, I guess she tried as much as possible
and they couldn't get it out, so they had to
call the plumber to detach it from the wall. And
then when the the photo is when he goes to
the hospital that there's like the hose from the bidet
is sticking out of his ass and the thing is
stuck up there. If you just called an ambulance, would
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they be able to like cut it off.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Yeah, yeah, they would have.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
I mean, I don't honestly like the way that those
things attach into the wall is I would have. I
mean that's what they did, the plumber did. It doesn't
look like from the photo that the plumber actually unscrewed
it from the wall. It looks like the plumber cut it.
But I could see, you know what I'm talking about
when there's metal outside of a hose. Yeah, maybe that
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maybe the woman didn't have something strong enough to cut
through it or something like, I don't really know. Maybe
she thought that because that I guess that is a
possibility if you cut it, that water could come out.
Like I'm not really sure. I see why she called
a plumber, I guess. But they were able to get
it out by putting him under anesthesia and just stretching
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his anus open and get it out like carefully. And
it caused a lot of inflammation and some scratches inside
of his rectum, but otherwise he was fine. Yeah, I
mean it kind of sucks. I mean that kind of sucks.
It really sucks that it got stuck. It sucks that
the plumber had to witness something like that. All Right,
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So this story is crazy in itself, but then I
have to. So whenever I do a post in the
grocery m I write a question underneath, or oftentimes not
every single post, but I write a question underneath to
ask members like if they've ever had to This one
was do you ever have to call the authorities or something,
or like a person to come to your house a
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professional because of something that was like really embarrassing that
happened to you.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
And I was saying once when.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
I was a kid, our toilet clogged and then momm
would pop up, called the plumber over and they found
a broken pencil inside of the toilet, and the pencil
kind of went across the hole at the bottom of
the toilet and there was like a bunch of tampons
wrapped around and that was guy's flushing dampons. Because that
was like, I don't know, that was back in the day.
We I mean, I don't do it at my house,
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but you had no problem. Nobody ever taught me not to,
So I don't know, I just did. I just thought
that it was embarrassing. So one of the members wrote
that a similar kind of thing happened to her, that
that her and her boyfriend were having sex when they
were teenagers and they were flushing the condoms down the
toilet and then the plumber came and found like this
big glob of condoms.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
Oh my god, in the toilet.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
But oh and another one was a woman and her
husband were using handcuffs to have sex and they couldn't
find the key and then she had to call his
brother to come over and like get him out.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
Of it, which is fucking hilarious. Okay, what's the next story.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
A trans woman went viral after having a procedure done
to remove some of her ribs, which they let her
keep after the surgery, and now she plans to make
a crown with them. The picture so gross, it's it's
just like a biohazard bag. And she had six ribs removed.
Six So did they like, sorry if this is like
a totally idiot question, like cut all the meat and
(51:13):
stuff off of them and just give you the bones,
like because that's it looks like, so you have you
have your rib cage right, and the whole point of
your rib cage is too It's a cage that protects
your your soft organs and in between the bones you
have muscle and that all so if you get hit,
I mean, if you didn't have ribs, obviously, like it
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would be even hard to stand upright because it's kind
of keeping your skeletal system upright as well along with
your backbone. But if you got hit and didn't have
ribs and it hit your your your spleen, it could
it could rupture right away or you know, like it's
just they protect your heart, protects your lungs, It protects
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like all your super vital organs right there, your liver.
So if you have true ribs, which are ribs that
come off of the backbone, and then they go to
the sertum, which is the bone in front of your body,
and then you have false ribs, which they don't directly
connect to the sturtum, they like kind of connect to
each other. And then at the bottom you have floating ribs,
(52:19):
so they're like if you go on your backbone, like
those little tiny ones that you feel at the very bottom,
and those ones are just coming off of your backbone,
so they don't connect to the front.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
Of your chest at all.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
And those are the ribs that they usually remove for
these surgeries because they're the easiest to come off because
you just have to kind of clip them off of
the backbone. But in this case, she also had the
tenth rib removed as well, which which is one of
the false ribs, and that is probably way more painful
and in depth of a surgery. And one of the
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reasons this surgery is so controversial is because obviously, number one,
you don't want to be removing things from people that
are like actually protecting their life.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
And then two, it's just risky.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
It's very painful, there's a high risk of infection, it
takes a longer time to heal from it. So it's
actually hard to find someone to do it in this country,
but they do do it in this country. There are
doctors that you could find online right now, and when
you see the before and after pictures, you're like, okay,
Like they do a combination of removing a ribon light bosuction,
and it does give people a more hourglass figure. Yeah.
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I just think when it comes down to like protecting
your vital organs and everything, you need to think about
how dangerous that could be later in your life. There
was you're probably too young to know this, but there
was always rumors that Sophil Loren had this done and
that Share had this done and Marylynd. When I was younger,
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one of the rumors that went around was that Marilyn
Manson had it done so he could give himself a blowjob.
Oh my god, that was like that was like the
big rumor when I was a kid.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
I mean, just ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
There was also a rumor that he was Paul from
Wonder Years, which ended up not being true obviously either.
But I don't know if they've had that done. The
name of this post is called spare Ribs, by the way,
but yeah, it's it's it's kind of cool. And if
you have a question too about like how do you
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get the are you allowed to take home like your
specimen like that, the answer is not very clear, cop
but in my opinion, something like that, like if they're
taking off totally normal ribs that have no pathology, they're
just taking them off for cosmetic reasons. They're a kind
of specimen that would be considered exempt that you could
send a patient home with because we're not even gonna
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look at them or anything under the microscope in the
lab anyway. Like if we got those in the lab,
we would just describe them as bones and then discard
them with the medical waste. But certain underneath this particular post,
some of our members were like, it's saying that they
weren't allowed to take home. Like one member for example,
got a follow and too removed and they said they
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wouldn't let them take them home. And the reason for
that is is because we look at those entirely under
the microscope because they could have cancer in them. So
that's not something that you would ever be able to
get to take home with you. Kids back in the
day used to be able to take their tonsils home,
but they don't allow that anymore because you could get
cancer in your tonsil too. But bones like this, if
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you get like your hip removed, even for technically you
have pathology because you have osteoarthritis, sometimes they still would
let you if after the pathology lab at least looked
at it, because we might not even cut those, but
like teeth, things like that. Weird, Okay. Other death news,
This chick on TikTok was diagnosed with a rare form
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of cancer and had to have her arm amputated, and
then after the procedure, her family and friends facilitated this
funeral viewing for her amputated arm. And it was in
it would seem to be a little hospital bed propped
up on a pillow and partially under a blank get
with some flowers. I think this is this is genius
and it's hilarious and really, has anyone ever done this before?
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I don't know about that, I don't know. And she
videoed everybody, like her friends and her family that were
in the room. Everybody seemed to find the humor in it.
And you know, it's a really emotionally distressing thing probably
for her to lose this limb and be going through
this cancer treatment. So at least they could find some
humor in it and make light of an otherwise pretty
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shitty situation.
Speaker 3 (56:30):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
She had a cancer that was called sonovial sarcoma, and
it's a really rare cancer and it unfortunately, it usually
occurs in younger people, young adults or even teenagers. And
it got its name because the sonovium is usually the
tissue that lines the joints, and when this tumor was
originally named, they were most frequently seeing it in the joints,
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so they just decided to call it sonovial sarcoma. But
that's not actually the case, it doesn't arise from the
cells of the synovium that line the joints, so you
can get them in other organs too, but it is
most common to be seen next to the joint, and
she had it in her arm, arms, legs, most commonplaces
to see it, and it is a really rare cancer.
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But she had to and you could see in her
videos that she had to have chemotherapy, and this whole
experience for such a young person to go through is
just really upsetting. But one thing that I wanted to
tell you is that we've had this request in the
lab several times that when a person gets their limb amputated,
that we send it to the funeral home. Oh interesting, Yeah,
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so normal, in normal circumstances, we would keep the limb
and we would do what we'd do with it in pathology,
look at it under the microscope, and then we would
keep it for about a month, and then we would
get rid of it and just incinerate it with the
rest of medical waste because it's too it's too bulky
to put in a jar of formaldehyde, because it's it's huge.
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Shall we keep it in the refrigerator. We usually have
a limb refrigerator, which I know sounds nasty, but we
do in the pathology lab or we would bring it
down to the morgue and put it in the morgue
with the bodies. But some people and some religions, they
they want their limbs back. So I'm thinking that just
and I can't really see a great quality of the video,
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but just because she has it out like that, and
and pathology had already had to look at it and stuff,
I'm thinking that she had it sent to a funeral
home and had it embalms so it could be out
in the air like that and not decomposed. But I
don't notice. Did you notice though that the like the
skin on the hand was very saggy like it almost
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looked like an old person's hand. Yeah, I'm I don't.
I don't really know what she did with it, because
is she.
Speaker 3 (58:48):
In America or you don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (58:50):
If yeah, because I don't know, I don't know if
she's in America. Just I'm just saying for the rules here,
like we were just talking about with the with the
patient that got her ribs back after she had them removed.
If a patient came to us and said I want
my arm back. The only way that we're releasing their
armback is through the funeral home. We're not giving it
to them directly, so just because there's too many legal
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implications with that. Now, I don't if she's not in America,
that could be a totally different thing, but it would
have to go that route as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, yeah, so,
but I think I think it's it's pretty cool. All right,
Let's move on to Questions of the Day. Every Friday
on the at mother Nose Death Instagram account, you guys
can head over to our story and ask whatever you want.
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Have you had an experience that solidified your passion to
work in path slash forensic path I would say probably
just being in school. I mean really just being in
school and learning about the microscope and learning that you
can look under the microscope and get a job doing that.
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I think that that would be like that was like
the pivotal point where things change for me as far
as pathology goes. I mean, it just kind of evolved
from there because I was that was the first thing,
is like, oh you could get because I guess in
theory you could get a job looking at the microscope
doing other jobs. But the jobs that I learned about
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because I was interested in just healthcare that you can
look under the microscope is to look at cancer cells
under the microscope.
Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
So I just it was just like it.
Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
All kind of fell into place after I fell in
love with the microscope. All right. Next, do you think
hair grows in the casket? No, it doesn't grow in
the casket. It kind of appeared that that people's hair
grows when they die, and their fingernails as well, because
when you die and you start the mummification process, your
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tissue starts to shrink and shrink down to your skull.
So like, right now, my hair looks this long, but
like if it was just coming, if it was shrinking down,
you know what I mean, Like it just would appear
to be longer. Same with your fingernails, Like if your
hand shrinks, your fingernails look longer than they really are.
All right, last, what did you get each other for Christmas?
Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
God?
Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
That was so long ago.
Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
It's like three weeks ago. I tried to get I
tried to get you something and I couldn't get it.
But like I don't want to tell you because like
I don't want to give up. So that's I'll tell
you the whole story later once I get it. I
got you the La Crusee, I got you a JFK
presidential pin. And then I got you that awesome fabric
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cutter thing that we saw at Joeanne's or the electric scissors. Yeah,
those things are awesome. Yeah, I forgot I had them
because Lilia just just wanted to cut the neck out
of her shirt. Damn it.
Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Anyway, what did I get you?
Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
I got you some sweater that you really wanted. Actually,
I have this this sweater that she really likes, and
I got it from like anthropology a year, like over
a year ago, but I found it, so that was
like a good find. Yeah, but she wanted to She
wanted to keep mine, and I was like, no, you're
not keeping this. This is like the best shirt. Well,
the day we got home from being on Elvis Duran,
(01:02:19):
I was like, I had that like big white cardigan on,
which is super nice, but we were eating lunch and
I was scared of getting something on it. So you
were like just grown upstairs and You're like, so then
you went up in my closet and grabbed one of
my good sweaters to put on because you didn't want
to get your stars. It's like kind of a polo
type of short sleeve shirt and it's all black so
you could relax. So and you don't have like regular
(01:02:40):
T shirts. Everything you have looks nice, So what am
I supposed to know the difference? Anyway, I put it
on and it fit me really nice. So I was
gonna contemplate stealing it, but then you were You specifically
said don't steal that shirt, like you read, because it's
like a good shirt. That's why. That's like one of
my good shirts. So so I found that for her.
(01:03:01):
And what else did I get you?
Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
I got you that Barbie book, the Barbie Fashion, I mean,
a really cool Barbie book.
Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
You got me. You got me a couple really nice
pieces of clothes, and then you got me a really
cute winter hat. I only worn one so far, but
I want to wear it more, and you do do
it a more, like you need to wear it. Yeah,
So so yeah, so that's it wasn't anything crazy this year,
Like I mean, my law crsee is so good. It's
(01:03:27):
like it's this one that I've wanted for a long
time because it's my color of chiffon pink and it's
a heart, well it's a hard shape one, and you know,
there was one on eBay, but I was really like,
I don't want to have to order this off of
eBay because you know they could be fake. And it
was exact council didn't have great reviews either. No, I
guess I would be scared it would be fake. So
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then when I was looking it up further, some like
British department store had it, and I was like, thank
god because at least it's a like legitimate store and
I don't even have to worry about it being I
should go on that website and see if they have
more stuff in my cause it's a hard color to find.
Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Yeah, they did have a decent amount of stuff. Oh
do that this afternoon, But yeah, nothing crazy. Just we
know each other, so we usually just get each other
like clothes or like little things will like and yeah,
it's nothing mind blowing. But I did put a bow
on the towel warmer and put it under the tree.
Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
And he thought it was hilarryus.
Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Yeah, he was just like, what's this?
Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
I think really this year, like Gabe got the best
presence for us yeah, like you know what I mean normally,
because he got us our banners at our background. Now,
we usually give the best presents, but I was like
kind of surprised with all the good and then he
got us those good shirts too. Yeah, I was mind blown.
But the gift giving by the husbands this year is
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pretty good. Not that they don't do a good job typically,
but this year was above and beyond. Yeah, it was good.
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