December 10, 2024 • 52 mins
This week, Tommy is joined by actress Jennifer Love Hewitt who you know and love from starring in Party of Five, the I Know What You Did Last Summer films, The Client List, Ghost Whisperer, Heartbreakers, 9-1-1 and so much more. Jennifer is also a singer and songwriter with her most recent album, Barenaked, becoming her first album to chart in the United States and on the Billboard 200 chart. She has a brand new memoir out now titled “Inheriting Magic,” which chronicles her journey through grief, joy, celebration and making every day magical. Jennifer will also will be starring, directing and executive producing the Lifetime film “The Holiday Junkie,” out December 14. Today, Jennifer opens up about how she found hope and joy after her mother’s passing, why her new memoir is so meaningful to her in this chapter of her life, how she got to a place of peace with her relationship with grief, her advice on creating magical moments in simple yet meaningful ways, how her brand The Holiday Junkie turned into a movie, what it was like growing up in front of the world as a working child actor, what we can expect with her storyline when 9-1-1 returns, if she is interested in adapting Heartbreakers into a television series, what she thinks about some of her earliest albums, if she will be stepping back into the shoes of Julie James for the I Know What You Did Last Summer reboot, what projects she revisits the most, what gives her anxiety about parenting, and so much more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with me,
Tommy di Dario. I have interviewed many people throughout my career,
but today's guest is one that I've been wanting to
chat with for quite some time because I am such
a fan of her work. Jennifer Love youw It joins
me today and you know and love her from starring
in Party of Five, the I Know What You Did,
last summer films, The Client List, Ghost Whisper, Heartbreakers, which
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is one of my all time favorite movies, and currently
the TV series Nine to one one. But now she
has a brand new memoir out titled Inheriting Magic, which
chronicles her journey through grief and joy and celebrating and
making everyday magic. What a gift this book is. It
is a gift because it will reconnect you to that
beautiful wonder you once had as a kid, that wonder
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that sometimes fades as the chaos and craziness of life unfolds.
The wonder that we all have inside of us, that
is just waiting to pour out of our souls. And
today we are celebrating Jennifer's incredible career. We dive into
her gorgeous book, and we chat all about her new
movie in brand, The Holiday Junkie, and we just have
so much fun. We have a whole section where we
talk about all sorts of different projects of hers, including
(01:07):
Let's Go Bang, one of her early albums that I
was obsessed with. And let me tell you, whoever said
never meet your heroes, they never met Jennifer Love Hewitt.
So let's see if today we can get Jennifer to
say something that she has never said before. Jennifer Love Hewitt,
how are you, my friend?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
It is so good to see you looking festive and cheerful.
It's on brand.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Thank you so much. You know when I tried and
give a little a little glitter this.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Morning, well you look fantastic. I am so excited to
be talking with you today. So I don't know what
your team has or hasn't told you, but you have
been one of my number one interviews throughout my entire career,
like dead serious, and I'm may youres and hundred and
hundreds of people, but I'm like, I need to interview
Jennifer Love Hewett because so nice man. Growing up as
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like a small town kid from New Jersey who was
figuring out who I was and was going through some
difficult times. Your art brought me so much joy throughout.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
My life and so much thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
It really did. I started with I note you did
last summer as a teenager, and my cousins and I
were we all got into that, and then it's just
you know, I followed your career ever since, and I
just think you're one of those rare artists that have
this beautiful, long career doing art that really connects with
who you are as a human. And I think that's
why it resonates with so many people who do follow
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your career. So I'm like just thrilled. I'm sitting here
thinking now, like Heartbreakers is one of my favorite movies. Know,
the whole movie from Back to Front. I thought I
was Paige growing up, like all of it.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I wanted to be. He was much cooler than me.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Me too, me too. Well, it is, like I said,
such a joy, and I'm really excited to have you
on the show. We have a lot to celebrate today, Yes,
a lot to talk about today because your new memoir,
Inheriting Magic is out. Now, are you just pinching yourself?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, it's wild. It's like I'm trying to stay present
in it. But we've been talking about it so much,
and you know, obviously trying to get it out there
for people been sort of going by so quickly, and
then I've been sitting with it for so long that
it's like and like, is this really happening right now,
Like it's actually out for people to read and hopefully enjoy,
And yeah, I'm just I just don't want it to
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go by so fast. I'm trying to hold onto the
moment a little bit.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah. Well, it's a beautiful book. I mean I smiled,
I got emotional in certain parts. I love that you
open up about your family. But then it's fun. There's recipes,
there's DIY inspiration, there's prompts to you know, like self
health prompts to just kind of get your brain thinking
in a really positive direction. So there's so much goodness
in this book. Why did you want to write it?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
You know? I think it started off for me as
eleven years after my mom passing, realizing that I had
never read said anything about her and her passing. And
I think it was just because I didn't have the words,
Like I just sort of needed to maybe grow into
my grief a little bit and understand kind of what
was happening and what I was feeling about her. And
(04:14):
I became a new mom not too long after she
had passed, and so that's a whirlwin, and I just
kind of needed time. And so it really started as
me just sort of writing thought pages about who she
was and how magical she was to me. And I
do remember after she passed, like this odd thought kind
of came up for me, like about three days after
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she passed, where I feared that all the magic I
had known in my life was gone because I thought
she was the only soule carrier of that magic. And
then kind of sitting in our living room with my
new husband and our new little girl that first Christmas,
I was like, I can't I can't not have magic,
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and so I have to find it somehow. And I
think her little gift to me that Christmas was to say,
it's in here, and you have it, and you've inherited it,
and you can take it with you now and make
it your own and be inspired by it. And so
it really became I think what got me out of
that maybe sad dark place that Christmas and allowed me
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to sort of find hope and joy and become a
magic maker for my family. And it's been just like
the most beautiful gift from her.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
And in the beginning of the book you so beautifully
dedicate it to your kids and your husband and your mom,
of course, and you say that she was the one
who taught you that magic was even possible. What do
you mean by that?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
You know, people know magic is cauldrons and spell books
and wands and Harry Potter, and you know all of
those things. My mom's magic was different. It was really
like an intention that she set. If she was throwing
a dinner party, or making Christmas or going to a
restaurant with her friends. It was never just simple. She
was extra in like the best way possible. And that
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extra quality in her just people to her. I mean,
we would go into a restaurant, even at the height
of things for me, we would go into a restaurant
and people would care less about who I was for
that five minutes. They wanted to know who my mom
was and why they were so drawn to her. And
she made everybody that she met feel important and special
in some way, and that was her magic. And for
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me growing up, I believed I could do anything, that
anything was possible, and that the world was limitless, and
that to me is magical for a kid. And because
of that, I said, here, you know, almost thirty six
years later, in a job that I love and I
believed I could do that. I believed I could reach
for it and get it because she instilled that magic
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in me to kind of do that, and so it
was very special.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
And what I love about the book too, is it's
not just about the big moments in life, right like
the Amazing role You book or whatever the case may be,
a work accomplishment in any field, it's making the most
of the little moments and enjoying those for what they are.
And throughout this book you talk about how you make
these bestive occasions or seemingly ordinary day extraordinary, right Like
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It's just really a beautiful mindset that I think is
such an important reminder for everybody right now. And I
so connect with you on that. Like even something that
came in to mind for me is during the pandemic,
my husband and I we got engaged in Paris years ago.
We've been married for going on nine years, and it
was such a dark time and when that date rolled around.
I just turned our living room into a Parisian cafe.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I love that you know that that's what it's about.
That really is what it's about. And I do think that.
I think that's my biggest hope for the book is
that people will because I've talked to people who are like,
I am not a magical person, Like I just don't
get it, and I'm like, but you can be a
magical person because it really is just an intention that
you said. It's like you taking that moment and going
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in all the darkness of the world today, I'm going
to create light for me and my loved one. And
that is so tangible, and it's more tangible than we
think that it is. And it doesn't have to be expensive.
It doesn't have to be months planned. You can literally
wake up on a Thursday and go, you know what,
dinner is going to be weird tonight, Like we're going
to make it weird, or we're going to make it special,
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or we're going to put Christmas lights up in June
for no reason. You know, We're going to do whatever
it is that we need to do to create magic
in the space that we have on this planet. For
the short amount of time that we're here, and it
makes it so fun life. I'm so proud of you
for doing that. I think that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah, yeah, I think you have to enjoy those little
moments in life. And I think this it's so cool
about this book. It's going to really encourage people to
do that. It's also cool because I feel like a
lot of people have a difficult time opening up about grief.
You know, it's like a very it's an odd topic
to talk about because you never know how it will
make someone else feel. You don't know how it's going
to make you feel. And I feel like there's kind
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of a stigma around talking about grief still when in reality,
we all go through it, we all experience it, so
there shouldn't be And you talk about grieving your mom
in the book as well, So what's your relationship today
like with grief?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
For you, it's a it's a good one, oddly, I
really I think writing this book, doing the movie and
her honor and sort of. I mean, I've definitely had
good days in this press process and not so good
moments where like I have to remind myself at the
end of the day because I've talked about it so
much that like, that's my mom that we're talking about,
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you know, And so it's like definitely hit me a
few times in the last week for sure that I've
just been like, why is she not here for this?
I've been so frustrated, you know, or really sad that
she's not here to see all this. But then I
remind myself that she's watching. You know, she's probably gonna
have like the biggest watch party ever in Heaven's Barnes
and Noble. It's going to be selling out of that book,
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you know, in two seconds. So you know, she would
be love. I mean, like I said, she was extra,
she'd be loving all of this about her and sort
of in her honors. So that kind of brings me joy.
But yeah, grief is something I mean, I think the
biggest thing that I learned about grief, and I tell
this to people all the time, whether they've been through
it yet or they're going to go through it at
some point, is that it's not an event. It is
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a life after that like it is. It is just
a thing that comes up any time it feels like
it when it wants to however it wants to, and
you can't prepare for it, but you have to let
it wash over you or wash in you, and then
you have to let it back out again and like
move forward. And so it is, you know. I think
I thought, like in the early days of her passing,
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that it was going to be this moment in time
and then I would be healed and that would be it.
And you know, next June will be thirteen years and
I'm still in it. So I think that my relationship
with it now is that it is a it's a
weird friend that I have that comes to visit me sometimes,
and I'm oddly happy to see it when it does,
because it's a new level of letting go of something
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or feeling closer to her, maybe in that moment that
I hadn't taken time to feel close to her that day.
And then I wish it well and pack its bags
pretty quickly and say see your next visit. You know.
So it's a it's a healthy relationship with it now,
I would say, but definitely different than it was in
the beginning.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
And I think you're so right to acknowledge it and
in a weird way honor it, but then allow yourself
to say, okay, we're good now, see you next time.
I think that's right.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Thanks for visiting, right right?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
So important, it truly is, yea, and a part of
your story that you write about. And I'm not going
to give too too much away throughout this book, but
this one part I think is so important for people
to read and hear. And if there's anything that might
persuade someone to say, let me pick this up, because
I really needed to hear that. This was a moment
that I think is so so critical, at least in
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my perspective. And you talked about how when your mother
did pass you left and you went away to travel,
and she wanted you to go, and you had a
commitment and it was unexpected, right, and you were away
suddenly and you weren't there, and you were kind of
beating yourself up for not having the goodbye that you
thought you should should have until you then realized, well,
wait a minute, we did actually have our time and
it was the perfect goodbye that she would want. Can
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you talk to me about that a little bit?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, I mean we on that day, my gut was
like very very much screaming at me, do not go
on this trip. But my mom couldn't travel at the time,
and she loved to travel, and I was going to Monica,
which is a place we had been together, and she
was like, I need you to do this, you know,
for me, and so I went and in that day
we did a lot of things. You know, we talked
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about my now husband and you know, sort of had
that relationship conversation. There were a lot of things that happened,
but one of the things we were doing was planning
her big party for you know, sort of how she
was going to come out on the other side of
all of this and celebrate with her friends and you know,
then travel again and you know, sort of do all
of those things. And when that didn't happen and I
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didn't get that goodbye, I was very angry and it
stayed with me for a while until I realized that
for my mom and I, what we did best was
magic and joy, and we had that that day in
sort of the hopefulness of her being okay and what
that was going to be. And the truth is, I
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don't know that my mom and I would have known
how to say goodbye, and so I do ultimately feel
like our goodbye was what it was supposed to be
and it was supposed to be her letting me go
from a distance and me letting her go from a distance.
And I know that it wasn't easy for her, and
I definitely know that it wasn't easy for me. But
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I feel like our last moment was hopeful and was
magical and was joyful and I get to keep that
with me, and that means a lot.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Wow, to be in a place to have that, you know, mentality,
And I'm sure you had to work through a place
to get there, you know, But what a beautiful feeling
of peace I imagine that is. And I'm getting like
a little choked up because I think so many people
need to hear that and need to know that sometimes
how things unfold or how they're supposed to, you know,
I don't I don't believe in coincidences. I don't believe
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in accidents. I think the universe takes care of you.
That's just my mentality.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Same, yeah, And I.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Think that that's a really vulnerable part of you that
you put in this book. That is, if there's any
reason alone it's to read the book, it's for that.
Besides all the fun stuff that you talk about as well,
like the moon water, which, by the way, need to
do immediately.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yes, you do. It's really fun. It's really fun, and
it will get you to drink water, so it's simply
for that purpose too. But there really is there, like
there's a there's I feel like there's scientists and people
that have come out saying that, like, you can definitely,
you can definitely like infuse your body with intentions and
good thoughts by you know, taping a word on your
water bottle or whatever, and the kids and I just
(14:45):
kind of took it to a new level adding the moon.
But yeah, it's really it's really fun. I highly recommend it.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Those little tips and tricks are so exciting for people
to live a truly magical life. I love that too.
We live in New York City and I'm like, Geo,
we need to go find the moon and put a
water a Central park or something and make it.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Out of it. Yes, well, maybe don't leave it out
overnight in Central Park. Somebody might drink it and then
you yeah, no, no, let's try to find a balcony maybe.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Okay, all right, fair enough, please, we'll work on that.
We'll work on that. The holiday junkie is something that
you've become synonymous alter ego. Yeah, is it is? And
I believe you kind of launched that or started that
(15:31):
concept back in like twenty thirteen, Is that right?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
So what is the holiday Junkie?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
So technically I have to give credit to Instagram followers
because they were the ones who initially called me a
holiday junkie and it sort of stuck with me, and
it really is. It is a total other mindset besides
magic they go together, but the holiday junkie is truly
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like who I am? I I like for me and
I put it in the book. There's a calendar to
follow the holiday junkie, Like where's the normal people in
the world? See five holidays? I see like twenty there
are twenty possibilities to put up stuff, to decorate, to
go there to like be extra have fun and celebrate
not only life, but like you know things. And it's
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become this brand. I have a card line with these
amazing women at twenty twenty one Co and we make
holiday Junkie cards. It's expanding in this new year, coming
up into sort of some consumer products that they're really
excited about. It's been clothing, it's been you know it's
it's a thing, but it's who my friends and family
know me as and it is a it is a
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title that I wear so proud. And it's just like
finding all of the little pockets of joy to just
celebrate and just be happy. And it's I guess it's
also a mindset and an intention. But yeah, happy to
be the holiday junkie. And it's a movie that people
can watch on the fourteenth, which is exciting.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
And you play like a decorator, right I do.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I play a woman who essentially is hired to decorate
for Christmas, but also plan a magical itinerary for a family.
And then I meet a handsome house manager who also
happens to be my really husband and we fall in
love at Christmas. And I'm in grief at Christmas because
I've just lost my mom and he's in grief because
he was left at the altar.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Oh what a t ease, right?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
You know? Yes, sign me only sad people at Christmas
who just happened to kiss. It's awesome.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Oh I love that. That is so much fun. And
you know what, I love that you've embraced the holiday junkie.
And again, it's so on Brandon and theme to your
book and everything that we're talking about today and enjoying
all the little moments in life. I mean, why not
with everything life throws you like, why not lean into that?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yes, yeah, I talk about that a lot with my kids.
We talk a lot about how you know, in our
house with each other where supportive and we're always kind,
and we really shore each other up inside our house
because when you step outside, the world is going to
do with you what it wants, and that's just the truth.
And we can't protect each other from that, even though
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we want to. But we can start in our home
with the intention of magic, the intention of good and
shoring each other up and supporting each other the best
that we can so that you know, when we walk out,
it doesn't hit us quite as hard as it might
hit others. And so we talk about that a lot
with our kids, and we try to do that as
much as we can. Sometimes we don't succeed, but we try. Well,
(18:38):
you do the best we can, right, we try, We
really try.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Well.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
What a beautiful environment to create in your home? And
I noticed that throughout the book you have so many
beautiful pictures that you show of your family, and your kids,
And I do feel like it's probably one of the
more personal moments in your life and career that you
have gotten with your family, because rightfully so, you've you've
protected them, you know, so much throughout your life. Why
did you feel like this was the right time to
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start opening up a little bit more about your kids
and your family?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
That's interesting. Again, it wasn't supposed to necessarily be that.
But as I started writing about my mom and our
connection and her being a magic maker and sort of
passing that on to me and wanting to pass that
on to my children, Brian and I both were kind
of like, how do we not include them? Like how
does this not become about them? And then in sort
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of writing it and realizing what my mom had left me,
the book really became a chance for me to show
them what I'm leaving them, you know, so that one
day when I'm not here, which hopefully won't be until
I'm like one hundred and twenty, I'm gonna look scary,
but I'm really dry for one hundred and twenty. But
you know, when I'm not here, they'll have it and
they'll be like, oh, that was her magic and what
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she left us behind. And I do say in the
book that I think that's our job as magic makers.
Like people who who can sort of wrap their head
around that mindset and that intention are our goal should
be to pass that on and leave that for people.
And so it really just became a love story that
started with my mom and ended with my kids and
my husband, and you know, we talked to them about it.
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We asked them if they were okay with, you know,
kind of putting all this out, and of course they
were like, yes, we've been waiting. We need the world
to see us. We're wonderful. They were hilarious. My daughter
was like, yes, can I be on the cover. I'm
like okay, So you know, they were ready. But yeah,
it took us a minute to kind of wrap our
heads around it. And again, I think it also felt
like a safe space because it was me writing about us,
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it wasn't other people writing about them, and it was
us sort of being able to control what we showed
and what we talked about and what we didn't. And
it's been really positive so far.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, it's beautifully done, truly, truly beautifully done. And I
couldn't help but think, you know, while reading your story
in your background. I know you credit so much of
the magic in your life now to your upbringing with
your mom and being the holiday junkie. But from me,
when I think about some of the things that I
do today, I think about how as a kid I
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didn't have those moments sometimes, And I wonder for you,
as a working actor as a child, right, did you
miss out on some of those magical moments in life
because of your career that now you want to make
sure you know your kids don't miss out on those,
and you don't et miss out on those, Like is
there anything connected to that being so busy so young?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Oh? One hundred percent. I mean, I think part of
the holiday junkie magical part of mine is that kid
in me that didn't have a chance to do those things,
you know, that was busy trying to be a professional
and I was surrounded by adults. I mean, I wasn't.
The first high school party I ever went to was
a movie called Can't Hardly Wait. I had never been
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to a high school party or a party at all
that wasn't like, you know, the Golden Globes or something like.
It was very random, So I didn't get to experience
those things. I didn't sort of get to have those things.
And you know, my my daughter says it to me
a lot, and so does my my Atticus. I'll always say, Mommy,
you're kind of like a kid, and I'm like, I
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am because there's a part of me that didn't get
to be And so I do have fun now with
my kids sort of being that way and tapping into
that part of myself that maybe didn't get to sort
of let go as much or experience some of those things.
And I do think that, you know, my mom made
magic for me in the ways that she could, but
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in sort of the career taking off the way that
it did, and you know, that's a train that just
kind of moves without you at some point. There was
a lot of that that I didn't get to do.
So I am doing it now with my own kids,
and it's fun.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
And that's so funny to think about. When you mentioned
can Harley Waite, like you had no idea what a
real high school party was. No.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
The whole time we were filming and I was like, guys,
is this really what high school parties are like? And
they would laugh at me and be like no, No,
I mean maybe like the best one you've ever been
to ever, But yeah, I mean those were all the
things I've never been. I've only been to a I'm
on a TV show. All the things that I did
at those times like I was doing them as my character,
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so I felt like I was doing them, but they
weren't my own experience. So it's really funny to now
go back, and I think about that a lot. With
my kids. I think a lot about like, wow, like
they're going to go to prom and I'm going to
be like, I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Well, you clearly have to be the chaperone at the prominance,
right that would be fun?
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Right?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
You showping a big ball gown.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
They're like, Mom, can you imagine to really get out
of here? Oh?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, well that's super interesting And what a what a
wild perspective that I could see, you know, I could
see why you want to bring that magic to life
for anybody who didn't have something in their in their
youth right that they didn't experience for whatever reason, and
now wanting to really go hard and to make sure
that not only the people around you but yourself, like
you get to really enjoy something as well. So that's
that's super cool. Another super cool thing is all the
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recipes you share, so many delicious things throughout the course
of this book. I'm like, oh my god, what am
I going to make first? Like, what is what is
the number cottail? I was going to say, what's like
the number one must have?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I mean, his Christmas cocktail is so good. We only
have it that time of year or this time of year,
so I'm really excited about it. I'm going to beg
him to make me one later since it's a Friday
night that I love. The Megan's cookies are delicious. Nana's
apple pie I just made for the first time actually
holding the book and using it for my daughter's birthday
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because that's what she wanted, is her birthday cake. So
we did that. I mean, they're so good. My Grandma's
chicken and dumplings are amazing. It was really funny. Somebody
the other day was like, why are there none of
your recipes in there? And I was like, because that's
not who I am. Like I am like the Pinterest
Instagram girl who's like, somebody else tell me how to
cook this and I'll do it great. I love to cook,
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but I'm not like I don't come up with things
on my own sort of person. And they're like, well,
didn't you just want to put that in the book,
And I was like no, because then somebody's gonna ask
me how to make that. I'll be like, I don't know.
I was like, but I'm surrounded by all these amazing
people who have these great recipes, so I put theirs
in instead. It was very funny.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah, there's enough options for everybody.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
We're good, you know we have I'm fine, I'm fine,
I make the party, who makes the food?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
There? We go? There, we go. Well now, and the
spirit of mixing up recipes, we're gonna do a little
something called mixing up questions with you. Oh okay, and
we're gonna do all sorts of fun, little random questions
to touch on some highlights of Jennifer Love Hewett. Okay, okay,
are you ready?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I'm I think so. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
First one, nine one one. The show you're on. People
love It went from Fox to ABC. Ratings are stellar.
People can't get enough of it. It's coming back in March.
I believe there's gonna teas that you've been kidnapped in
the show. Is there anything you can tell us about
your arc for the second half of the season.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
It is the craziest thing I've ever done on nine
on one. All I can say the audience is not ready.
I was not ready. I was not ready.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, my voice like if I don't know if you
can tell, but my voice is like kind of out.
It has been this way since we filmed it.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Really, And did you know this storyline was coming or
just totally not?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I did not.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah, it's wild, but it was so fun. Oh, I
can't wait for people to see it. It was so fun.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Okay, that's a good tease. That's a good teas we're
ready for it. And another thing when I announced it
was my guests people were writing and they love your
dynamic with you know, your brother on the show, buck
and they think you guys are so much fun. How
is playing that for you?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
It's great, it's great. I love ol of our We
have a great time. And I just think Mattie's a
really good sister. I love that she's like sort of
his mom ish but all so his cysts and Bucket
is such a fun character. He's been through so much
and goes through so much and you know, yeah, it's
it's really fun for me. I love it.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
And there's a lot of speculation out there on that
dark web that you think his character might have a
little crush on Eddie.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I know.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Well, I had to feed into it because everybody wants
it to happen, and so I was like, I'm going
to be that person who feeds into this a little
bit so that people will go crazy. And they did,
and then everybody got mad at me because they're like,
don't feed into them.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
You were stirring that pot, was.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Stirring it right up. Well, it's fun to stir the pots.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
All right, fair, sometimes you have to.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I don't know what's going to happen with them, but
I mean I wouldn't. I would be all for it
if it happened to me. Just say that there're gonna
be worse things to see on TV.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Well, that's true. That's true. That's really funny. You were
seeing it and just totally acted off of it. You're like,
I'm going to turn the conversation.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah, I was. I mean, I'm a forty five your
old mom of three. Sometimes I gotta do something fun, right,
Like I want to be in the conversation. So I
got in the conversation a little bit, but then people
got mad at me because then they were like, well,
it didn't happen yet. So she lied to us, and
I was like, guys, can't I just drink my morning
coffee and stirts hot?
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Hello, I'm here for it. I'm here for good, good,
good good. You know you said like an Italian. If
I didn't know better, I think you were like fully italiant,
always wanted.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
To be Italian? Can I be like an honorary Italian?
Is that a thing that people do?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Absolutely, I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
All right, absolutely, okay, brilliant. I love that answer. Now
let's talk about Heartbreakers for a second.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
In my opinion, I actually met Sigourney Weaver. My friend
is Barbara Strausgan's tour director, and he had like a
little after party. I mean, who says that, Like I
just threw up after saying that myself.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
On let me just put that make me jump the floor.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Okay, Like I really just say that. I did. But
she was at the after party and we weren't talking,
and I said, I have to tell you Heartbreakers is
one of the all time greatest movies, and she goes,
you know what, I think so too. With a big
smile on.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Her face, she said that we had a good time.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
It was such a good movie. I feel like at
one point there was a rumor that you might be
interested in adapting into a television series. Is there a
truth to that? Is there still interest?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
So there is. We actually went out with it a
bunch for a television series, and then sort of the
business fell apart with the strikes and all of that stuff.
So it's still out there. We do have a great
script for it and a pitch for it, and it's
still my goal at some point to do Heartbreakers the
TV series.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Okay, remind me when we're off this, because I have
someone I need you to talk to.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Okay, fantastic.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Okay, So that just came into mind. Okay, good, So
there's hope for that. Love it. Where do I want
to go next? Okay, let's hit a music question. Oh fine,
let's go Bang was like my album of my adolescence.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I'm so sorry for you, and this clearly was.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
And this was when I thought I was straight even
sorrier for you, blasting it in my sky blue Toyota
camera being like yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, right, That's how I felt. About it too well.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I don't know why you're saying it, because I loved
that album. I listened to it on a rebeat back
back in the day when CDs were a thing. I love.
I love a good CD, and I would play it
repeatedly driving around the streets of New Jersey. I think
it's time for a follow up to some of your albums. Yeah,
(30:37):
Fair Naked of course is a fan favorite, so like,
what do we gotta do to get a new album?
I know you released songs here and there, beautiful songs
like you what are you keeping us waiting for?
Speaker 2 (30:46):
You know, I feel like it was a weird time
because when I came out with music, I mean it
was the time of Britney Spears and Avril Levine and
Michelle Branch and like, you know, all these people. When
I kind of did Bear Naked, it was like such
a such a rush of these incredibly talented people, and
I feel like there was a lot of like we
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just wanted to go back and cry on TV, like
why is she doing music right now? Except for the
people who loved it, which I appreciate you being one
of those and my grandmother, but you know, I would
love to go back to it. I really would. I
wouldn't tour or do any of that stuff because you know,
I'm in my forties and i'd probably throw my back
out and I have three kids. But I would love
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to make I honestly have thought about this, and I
think it's why I'm kind of putting out little songs
here and there, just to sort of see what the
temperature is. I'd love to do like, you know, six
or eight songs on a little album and just kind
of like sneak it out and see what people think
of it, so you know, maybe it's coming hopefully.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Okay, I think the world is ready.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I'm working on it.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Love to hear it. Would you ever do Broadway?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Oh my gosh, I would love to do Broadway.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
I'm terrified to speak in public, really, yes, And I
have been offered stuff before, and I'm the singing part
I could totally do.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
But the idea of standing in front of an audience
and having to like say words, I think I would
pass out, Like I would be the first person opening
night to pass out on Broadway.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
But you're on a set with like three hundred people
staring at you.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
I know, and I don't know what it is. There's
just something about like famously literally like when I would
go and do like announcements on award shows and stuff
like that, I always they would try to get me
to do it by myself, and I would always have
to walk on stage with someone and literally right before
you walk out on the American Music Awards or something,
I would be like, dude, I amrified, Like you got
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to hold my hand or I have to squeeze your
arm or slat because I was petrified, Like I don't
know what it is or why. Maybe something happened to
me in another life on a Shakespearean stage perhaps, but
I am really scared. If I could get over it,
I would love to do Broadway. I really would.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
But I always thought, Actually, my cousin and I both think,
because we love theater, we love musical theater, we think
you'd be an Amazingnessa and wicked.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Oh my god, thank you m hm, so really.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Nice, just like leaving that one there for you in
case Nessa.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Have lara ingitis and not be able to talk.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
I don't think we're rewriting the show, but okay, fine,
I'll be fine, yeah, yeah, but let's just say we'll
leave that one there, and maybe you'll feel inspired to
reach out to casting.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Give me in the Clash Menagerie where I don't saying.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Oh my god, we just sit there. We have some
things to work through for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
We're gonna work through it for training, and then it'll
be fine.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Okay. To be continued on that front. To be continued,
Let's do two more fun ones. Let's see is there
a movie and a television show of yours that when
it comes on you have to watch it or you
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sometimes feel nostalgic and are like, I want to put
it on.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Got Whisper for sure, such an easy watch. Love that show,
And yes I am that person who will watch herself
in the Ghostwhisper. If I'm flipping channels, then it's on.
Movie wise, Heartbreakers probably only because it was like such
a swe Heartbreakers to me still feels like a thing
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that didn't actually happen. Like the whole time that I
was on that movie, I felt like I was a
person who had entered like one of those random contests
on the radio to like win a part in a movie,
right because I would like look around and there would
be Gene Hackman and Ray Liotta and Sigourn me, and
I'm like, what am I doing here in no clothing? Like?
(34:45):
Why am I here? What is happening? Why is my
butt gonna be like giant on a screen? In like
the first ten minutes of the movie, Like the whole
thing just felt not real. And so whenever it's on
or like somebody's like, hey, I want to watch Party,
I'm like, yeah, me too, same because I have to
remind myself that I actually got the chance to like
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be in that like I was invited to be in
that movie. It was such a wild experience.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
And you know what's so interesting about that movie. There's
so many there's so much dialogue and so many different choices,
both you and Sigourney and everyone makes that I feel
like when you watch it, you see different things for
the first time, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yeah, yeah, because we had all of our you know,
common like personas, I guess that we had to Yeah,
it was, it was. It was wild.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
All I know is after I watched that movie, I
was walking around saying, may I grab your nuts and
salty like on repeat?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Sing it was my favorite thing to say to my
mom and grandmother. It makes them really uncomfortable. My grandmother
and my mom. By the way, we're there the day
that I was attached to Raleiota's crotch for twelve hours,
No oh oh yeah, I mean just to make it
worse for me. Yeah, it was why my grandmother was
like she had this big, big Texas I just She's
(35:58):
just like, sweetie, now, what exactly is happening in this
part of the movie. But I'd be like, uh, yeah
it was. Oh that movie was wonderful. It really was
so fun.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
How do you I mean, I know it's your job
and you're an actor and this is like what you do,
but when you go to a shoot like that and
you're like, okay, like for twelve hours, I'm going to
be attached to other actors crotch, Like, yeah, how do
you prepare for that?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
I mean I think I had to like not even
think about it because I was I was only twenty
two or twenty three when we to that movie. But
I will say, like, if you're gonna have to do
that with anyone, it should be Rayle Leota because he
was the most wonderful, extraordinary man, like just made me
feel so comfortable, was so kind, made all of the
(36:44):
right jokes about it to like just dissolve the situation.
But also it was like, you know, checking on me
and making sure that like mentally I was good physically
I was like, it was just you know, and it
was so funny with like my mom and my grandmother
and you know, apologizing in person and for that being
our day of work. He was just great. So you know,
I think he had a lot to do with how
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easy that was. But yeah, I think I just that
whole movie. I was just like, I can't even think
about what I'm doing right now. It's just wild.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Well, another brilliant performance. We love to see it. And
the last mixing it up question, I think you know
what's coming.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
M hmm, I think you do. I think you do.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
So let's see how we handle this one. Okay, Internet detectives,
the sleuths if you suse, we have seen that I
know what you did last summer has begun production.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
It has.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
They have also seen that Freddy Prince Junior has been
on set. Yeah, it has released some stories saying he's
finished filming, which have come into question if they are
real or not. Stories. Also, my own sleuth thing has
detected that you have went from You've gone from shorter
hair to longer hair, looking a little bit more like
Julie James. Oh interesting, and you have a little time
(38:00):
off before going back to nine one one, So are
you possibly preparing to be Julie James again?
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I am possibly preparing for that. The hair change had
nothing to do with that. I just needed something new.
I get very bored with my hair very quickly, and
because of some things that are going to be coming
up on nine on one, it felt like a good
time to sort of change it up. So that's what
the hair change is for. I am so close to
(38:33):
being able to say something that's exciting, but it has
been very hard to do. And I want to clarify
this because so many people have been like like literally
the line in the movie, what are you waiting for?
Like what is happening right? And it has only been
scheduling and then me trying to make sure that if
(38:57):
I go back to the franchise, I just don't want
to be the ghost of like nineties past. You know,
it's like oooh I am you know, she like dissolves
off and like I really want to do something and
I want to be there for Julie James fans, and
so we have just been trying to figure it out,
and I think we're really close to figuring it out,
(39:20):
and I will be really I will be as excited
as everyone else if I can, if I can say
that officially very soon.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Yeah, and that makes sense. You want something like juicy
worth going back for Yeah, I just I.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Just wanted to like matter, you know, and not even
for like the new fans that I know you did
last summer, but for the moms who will be paying
for those tickets to take their kids because they loved
it the first one. I just want it to feel like,
you know, if she comes back, then it means something.
But what do we think about this hair? If I
did come back, do we feel like this is a
good like evolved twenty seven years later.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Julie, I think the hair is perfect for new Julie James.
I do, Okay, I really do.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
The first thing with this hair that you were the
deciding factor.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Okay, oh wow, I love it. You know what I think.
I think it's perfect. And what I will say, the
last thing I'll say is, presumably with these conversations going on,
and you want to come back, if there's a juicy
reason to come back.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Four.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
I think it seemed to say in the script, perhaps
truly is already in there.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yes, okay, yep, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Okay, all right, I know I can't get much more
out of you. We're going to leave it at that,
but we're leaving on a hopeful note.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
With this very hopeful.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
The one thing I will say is, just like your
song in the first one, how do ideal we need?
We're going to need another one.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
So if that's what I said, it needs to come
as another song. I know I'm working on that too.
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
It must be fun for you to hear how excited
people are and all the curiosity around you returning. I mean,
that movie really does mean so much to people. So
aside from like I'm sure always hearing about how people
want you to come back, it must be fun to
go through this again.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Oh my god, it's amazing. It's amazing. And I said
that to them when they came and even talked to
us about it, Like what an honor it is twenty
seven years later to even be thought of to come back,
Because the truth is they could do it without us.
They shouldn't, but they could do it. No, no, no,
And it's really nice that they don't want to, you know,
(41:31):
so I appreciate that, and I really appreciate that it
matters to the fans so much, because that's truly the
only people I care about in the circumstance, and so
I really want to give them. I want to give
them the answer that they want and that I want.
And we're yeah, we're very hopeful at this point.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Okay, wait, I have just one more on this. Okay,
have you heard anything about possibly Randy returning?
Speaker 2 (41:57):
I have heard that, yes, Okay, Because they were besties
in the movie, I had to remind myself, if I'm
being totally honest, I had to go through both movies
and remind myself who had died and who had it
because I'm in my forties, so I was like, wait,
(42:19):
can that person come back? And then no, oh no, no,
oh yeah no that was that one was bloody. But
I was like because my first thought was we have
to have Jack Black, and then I was like, oh no,
he died. Yeah, so yeah, I had to go. I
had to run through real quick and just make.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Sure something you just can't come back from, like Jack Bike.
I'm sorry, it just can't happen.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Yeah, people are a little mixed on.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
But she's I mean, she was frozen and nice. My
head was off. I mean it's pretty I don't know
that we can be I don't know we can be
confused about that one. But but yes, And then I
just heard that there's this whole thing where they think
that Sarah and I were fighting or something. Have you
heard this? Really? All these things out there? And I
was like yeah, and that, like, yeah, it's been really fun.
(43:05):
I've I've really enjoyed going and like trying to read
the stuff now and be like, what are people saying
about when we did the movie before? You know, now
all of that stuff and there somebody somebody the other
day was like, yeah, I think Julie made sure that
she was killed because girl actresses don't like to work
with girl And I was like, what are you I
(43:27):
was eighteen, they were not taking script notes from me. Guys,
Like what are you talking about? There were probably friends totally,
I mean all of us were like in that experience
together kind of you know, figuring it all out and everything,
and I root for her and Freddie and like, I
think it's the cutest thing in the world that they've
been married for one hundred years and have kids and
it's like adorable. So yeah, no, it's just been really
(43:49):
funny to see all of the stuff that people think.
But yes, I have also heard the Brandy murmer and
and yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
All right, that's a lot of good information. All I
know is if you're not in a little crop top
running around.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Again, oh god, there will not be a crop top
that can. I tell you the funniest story, honestly, my
son Atticus when thought it was the most innocent sweet thing,
but it killed. It was like I was dead, Like
it was really funny. He was watching the movie and
he came running out and he was like, Mommy, I
just saw the weirdest thing. He was like, there was
(44:24):
this stuff up here, and I was like, sweetie, that's
where mommy's boobs used to be. Good.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Stop. Stop.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
It was like it was so innocent. So so he
was so worried about what was up there because he's
so used to them being lower. Because I'm in my
forties and I sped three children. So I made the
joke the other day. I was like, guys, if this happened,
like we're gonna have to tie him up over my
ears and invite him back up.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
For the next movie.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Push up true like Marionette's holding them up as I
run through something. Oh my god, it was hilarious. It
made me laugh so hard.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
It was that's pretty amazing, and then.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Confused as to how they ended up this way. It
was very funny.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
That might be the headline for the entire interview. Oh god, great,
Oh my god, you know I'm serious. That's that's really
really really cute. That's really cute. And going off of
that and giving you some flowers for a minute. On
a serious note, like I said earlier, you've been working
your whole career and since you were a kid, and
(45:40):
you've done so many different genres and categories and film
and TV and music. Are you to point in your
life and in your career where you can look back
at everything you've done and say, like, man, I'm pretty
proud of me, Like I've I've done it, like I've
accomplished my dreams. Because it's so hard for all of
us to do that, and not that we sit around
doing that, but do you feel like you can look
(46:01):
at all of that and say, wow, I genuinely am
proud of me.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
I do. I do feel proud. I do feel proud,
and I feel proud because I think along the way,
if you had asked me a million different times, I
would have said, I don't know, it might be over tomorrow,
Like I don't know, Like I just have always been,
you know, worried about that. And so it is really
nice to sit now at forty five and be like, yeah,
(46:26):
I did that, Like I did what I wanted to do,
and I'm still going and I and it's so fun
for me that, like I still get nervous to go
to work. I still get worried when things are going
to come out, if people are going to like them.
I still you know, care about Julie James and like
how to make that great for people. And you know,
(46:47):
I have not lost my love for this job, like
even a little. And that is awesome and I feel
like that is a success in itself. And yeah, I
am proud of what I've been able to do and
hope that I get to continue for a long time.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Oh that's good to hear. I think it's always nice
when you can reflect back and have a moment of
praise for yourself because none of us do it enough?
Speaker 2 (47:09):
You know, I know, don't.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
We don't, we don't. I think that's super cool. Well,
as we wrap up this conversation, oh boy, here we
go the name of the show. Oh you know what's coming.
It's called I've never said this before, And the show
is born because I cover a lot of red carpets
and junkets and you get like three minutes, maybe six
minutes if you're lucky, at a junk get to talk
(47:31):
to people. And I just saw this longing in people's eyes,
wanting to talk about things a bit more substantial, right,
and a bit more a bit more real life, which
we've done a lot today already. But I'm wondering, is
there anything that comes to mind for you that you've
never said before that you wanted to say or share today,
whatever that means to you.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yeah, I think it does sort of fit with what
we have been talking about a little bit. I do.
I think I've never said out loud before to anyone,
maybe other than my husband, and that I have a
real fear as a mom about the kind of mom
I'm going to be when my kids are teenagers. And
it kind of goes back into what we were talking
about before in that I just don't have like I
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never went to high school, like walk down to high school.
I mean I did the school work of high school
and I graduated and I but I did it on
a set. I never went to a high school party
other than can't hardly wait. I haven't had those experiences.
And right now I feel like I really thrive as
a mom because the kid in me can throw a
magical party and it can you know, make a magical
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movie theater moment or you know, whatever it is. And
like the kid in me is thriving as a mom.
But when it comes to being a teenager or a
grown up, you know, kind of going into your grown
up place as a I really worry, like it panics
me a lot that I'm going to fail somehow because
I don't have those life experiences. And thankfully my husband
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does and he was he lived a very normal teenage life.
But I don't want to fail them that way, Like
I really want to thrive and be there for them
and do that and not like weirdly want to show
up at the prom because I never about to go
to one, Like I could just see myself like also
coming down the stairs and She's all that moment and
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Autumn being like not now, this is not your time,
you know, Like I just want to I just want
to be there for them, and I want to I
want to know all the things. But I don't have
those life experiences, and it gives me a lot of anxiety.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
So how do you calm that? Or can you not?
Speaker 2 (49:38):
I can't. I mean, I think I just have to
do my best. Yeah, Like I think I'm just gonna
have to do my best. And and I think maybe
I said it to Autumn the other day because she's
eleven now, and you know, we were kind of talking
about it, and she was like, what was it like
when you were eleven? And I was like, oh boy,
here we go. I was at auditions, like I have
no I have no reference for her that's going to
be helpful. But I told her how I felt inside.
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And so I feel like, maybe I'm just going to
have to go with my gut and maybe I'm just
going to learn a lot. Like I feel like I'm
I feel like maybe there's a part of me that's
going to go and experience it, maybe for the first time,
and I'm going to have to be okay with that.
And maybe there will be something beautiful that comes out
of it, but it makes me very afraid.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Well, after reading your book and after talking to you
for almost an hour, it's clear you know what you're doing,
and your family is very lucky to have you, and
I think you know it's it's normal to feel all
those things. But yeah, something tells me you're going to
be just fine. Just don't show up in the prom
ball gown. Please wait?
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Okay, all right, I won't. Maybe for my fiftieth I'll
throw myself a prom How about that?
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Oh that would be so cute.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Right you want to call me?
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Yes, I am a great you could come from. Oh
my god, I love that so much, Jennifer, love you.
What a pleasure this is been today. I could talk
to you for four more hours. I just I am.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
I had such a good sign.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
Oh you're you're a brilliant artist. This book is brilliant.
Inheriting magic is out now. Where can people grab it?
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Barnes and Noble, Amazon, all the all the places, I think,
And I'm really really grateful, and I just hope that
they love it so much.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
And Holiday Junkie is out.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yes on the fourteenth at eight pm. On Lifetime.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
Okay, so read the book, watch the movie, get in
the festive spirit, and thank you so much for hanging out.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Thank you so much, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
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tell your friends. Until next time, I'm Tommy Diderio.
Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with me,
Tommy di Dario. I have interviewed many people throughout my career,
but today's guest is one that I've been wanting to
chat with for quite some time because I am such
a fan of her work. Jennifer Love youw It joins
me today and you know and love her from starring
in Party of Five, the I Know What You Did,
last summer films, The Client List, Ghost Whisper, Heartbreakers, which
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is one of my all time favorite movies, and currently
the TV series Nine to one one. But now she
has a brand new memoir out titled Inheriting Magic, which
chronicles her journey through grief and joy and celebrating and
making everyday magic. What a gift this book is. It
is a gift because it will reconnect you to that
beautiful wonder you once had as a kid, that wonder
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that sometimes fades as the chaos and craziness of life unfolds.
The wonder that we all have inside of us, that
is just waiting to pour out of our souls. And
today we are celebrating Jennifer's incredible career. We dive into
her gorgeous book, and we chat all about her new
movie in brand, The Holiday Junkie, and we just have
so much fun. We have a whole section where we
talk about all sorts of different projects of hers, including
(01:07):
Let's Go Bang, one of her early albums that I
was obsessed with. And let me tell you, whoever said
never meet your heroes, they never met Jennifer Love Hewitt.
So let's see if today we can get Jennifer to
say something that she has never said before. Jennifer Love Hewitt,
how are you, my friend?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
It is so good to see you looking festive and cheerful.
It's on brand.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Thank you so much. You know when I tried and
give a little a little glitter this.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Morning, well you look fantastic. I am so excited to
be talking with you today. So I don't know what
your team has or hasn't told you, but you have
been one of my number one interviews throughout my entire career,
like dead serious, and I'm may youres and hundred and
hundreds of people, but I'm like, I need to interview
Jennifer Love Hewett because so nice man. Growing up as
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like a small town kid from New Jersey who was
figuring out who I was and was going through some
difficult times. Your art brought me so much joy throughout.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
My life and so much thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
It really did. I started with I note you did
last summer as a teenager, and my cousins and I
were we all got into that, and then it's just
you know, I followed your career ever since, and I
just think you're one of those rare artists that have
this beautiful, long career doing art that really connects with
who you are as a human. And I think that's
why it resonates with so many people who do follow
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your career. So I'm like just thrilled. I'm sitting here
thinking now, like Heartbreakers is one of my favorite movies. Know,
the whole movie from Back to Front. I thought I
was Paige growing up, like all of it.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I wanted to be. He was much cooler than me.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Me too, me too. Well, it is, like I said,
such a joy, and I'm really excited to have you
on the show. We have a lot to celebrate today, Yes,
a lot to talk about today because your new memoir,
Inheriting Magic is out. Now, are you just pinching yourself?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, it's wild. It's like I'm trying to stay present
in it. But we've been talking about it so much,
and you know, obviously trying to get it out there
for people been sort of going by so quickly, and
then I've been sitting with it for so long that
it's like and like, is this really happening right now,
Like it's actually out for people to read and hopefully enjoy,
And yeah, I'm just I just don't want it to
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go by so fast. I'm trying to hold onto the
moment a little bit.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah. Well, it's a beautiful book. I mean I smiled,
I got emotional in certain parts. I love that you
open up about your family. But then it's fun. There's recipes,
there's DIY inspiration, there's prompts to you know, like self
health prompts to just kind of get your brain thinking
in a really positive direction. So there's so much goodness
in this book. Why did you want to write it?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
You know? I think it started off for me as
eleven years after my mom passing, realizing that I had
never read said anything about her and her passing. And
I think it was just because I didn't have the words,
Like I just sort of needed to maybe grow into
my grief a little bit and understand kind of what
was happening and what I was feeling about her. And
(04:14):
I became a new mom not too long after she
had passed, and so that's a whirlwin, and I just
kind of needed time. And so it really started as
me just sort of writing thought pages about who she
was and how magical she was to me. And I
do remember after she passed, like this odd thought kind
of came up for me, like about three days after
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she passed, where I feared that all the magic I
had known in my life was gone because I thought
she was the only soule carrier of that magic. And
then kind of sitting in our living room with my
new husband and our new little girl that first Christmas,
I was like, I can't I can't not have magic,
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and so I have to find it somehow. And I
think her little gift to me that Christmas was to say,
it's in here, and you have it, and you've inherited it,
and you can take it with you now and make
it your own and be inspired by it. And so
it really became I think what got me out of
that maybe sad dark place that Christmas and allowed me
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to sort of find hope and joy and become a
magic maker for my family. And it's been just like
the most beautiful gift from her.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
And in the beginning of the book you so beautifully
dedicate it to your kids and your husband and your mom,
of course, and you say that she was the one
who taught you that magic was even possible. What do
you mean by that?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
You know, people know magic is cauldrons and spell books
and wands and Harry Potter, and you know all of
those things. My mom's magic was different. It was really
like an intention that she set. If she was throwing
a dinner party, or making Christmas or going to a
restaurant with her friends. It was never just simple. She
was extra in like the best way possible. And that
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extra quality in her just people to her. I mean,
we would go into a restaurant, even at the height
of things for me, we would go into a restaurant
and people would care less about who I was for
that five minutes. They wanted to know who my mom
was and why they were so drawn to her. And
she made everybody that she met feel important and special
in some way, and that was her magic. And for
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me growing up, I believed I could do anything, that
anything was possible, and that the world was limitless, and
that to me is magical for a kid. And because
of that, I said, here, you know, almost thirty six
years later, in a job that I love and I
believed I could do that. I believed I could reach
for it and get it because she instilled that magic
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in me to kind of do that, and so it
was very special.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
And what I love about the book too, is it's
not just about the big moments in life, right like
the Amazing role You book or whatever the case may be,
a work accomplishment in any field, it's making the most
of the little moments and enjoying those for what they are.
And throughout this book you talk about how you make
these bestive occasions or seemingly ordinary day extraordinary, right Like
(07:08):
It's just really a beautiful mindset that I think is
such an important reminder for everybody right now. And I
so connect with you on that. Like even something that
came in to mind for me is during the pandemic,
my husband and I we got engaged in Paris years ago.
We've been married for going on nine years, and it
was such a dark time and when that date rolled around.
I just turned our living room into a Parisian cafe.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I love that you know that that's what it's about.
That really is what it's about. And I do think that.
I think that's my biggest hope for the book is
that people will because I've talked to people who are like,
I am not a magical person, Like I just don't
get it, and I'm like, but you can be a
magical person because it really is just an intention that
you said. It's like you taking that moment and going
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in all the darkness of the world today, I'm going
to create light for me and my loved one. And
that is so tangible, and it's more tangible than we
think that it is. And it doesn't have to be expensive.
It doesn't have to be months planned. You can literally
wake up on a Thursday and go, you know what,
dinner is going to be weird tonight, Like we're going
to make it weird, or we're going to make it special,
(08:14):
or we're going to put Christmas lights up in June
for no reason. You know, We're going to do whatever
it is that we need to do to create magic
in the space that we have on this planet. For
the short amount of time that we're here, and it
makes it so fun life. I'm so proud of you
for doing that. I think that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah, yeah, I think you have to enjoy those little
moments in life. And I think this it's so cool
about this book. It's going to really encourage people to
do that. It's also cool because I feel like a
lot of people have a difficult time opening up about grief.
You know, it's like a very it's an odd topic
to talk about because you never know how it will
make someone else feel. You don't know how it's going
to make you feel. And I feel like there's kind
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of a stigma around talking about grief still when in reality,
we all go through it, we all experience it, so
there shouldn't be And you talk about grieving your mom
in the book as well, So what's your relationship today
like with grief?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
For you, it's a it's a good one, oddly, I
really I think writing this book, doing the movie and
her honor and sort of. I mean, I've definitely had
good days in this press process and not so good
moments where like I have to remind myself at the
end of the day because I've talked about it so
much that like, that's my mom that we're talking about,
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you know, And so it's like definitely hit me a
few times in the last week for sure that I've
just been like, why is she not here for this?
I've been so frustrated, you know, or really sad that
she's not here to see all this. But then I
remind myself that she's watching. You know, she's probably gonna
have like the biggest watch party ever in Heaven's Barnes
and Noble. It's going to be selling out of that book,
(09:49):
you know, in two seconds. So you know, she would
be love. I mean, like I said, she was extra,
she'd be loving all of this about her and sort
of in her honors. So that kind of brings me joy.
But yeah, grief is something I mean, I think the
biggest thing that I learned about grief, and I tell
this to people all the time, whether they've been through
it yet or they're going to go through it at
some point, is that it's not an event. It is
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a life after that like it is. It is just
a thing that comes up any time it feels like
it when it wants to however it wants to, and
you can't prepare for it, but you have to let
it wash over you or wash in you, and then
you have to let it back out again and like
move forward. And so it is, you know. I think
I thought, like in the early days of her passing,
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that it was going to be this moment in time
and then I would be healed and that would be it.
And you know, next June will be thirteen years and
I'm still in it. So I think that my relationship
with it now is that it is a it's a
weird friend that I have that comes to visit me sometimes,
and I'm oddly happy to see it when it does,
because it's a new level of letting go of something
(10:54):
or feeling closer to her, maybe in that moment that
I hadn't taken time to feel close to her that day.
And then I wish it well and pack its bags
pretty quickly and say see your next visit. You know.
So it's a it's a healthy relationship with it now,
I would say, but definitely different than it was in
the beginning.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
And I think you're so right to acknowledge it and
in a weird way honor it, but then allow yourself
to say, okay, we're good now, see you next time.
I think that's right.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Thanks for visiting, right right?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
So important, it truly is, yea, and a part of
your story that you write about. And I'm not going
to give too too much away throughout this book, but
this one part I think is so important for people
to read and hear. And if there's anything that might
persuade someone to say, let me pick this up, because
I really needed to hear that. This was a moment
that I think is so so critical, at least in
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my perspective. And you talked about how when your mother
did pass you left and you went away to travel,
and she wanted you to go, and you had a
commitment and it was unexpected, right, and you were away
suddenly and you weren't there, and you were kind of
beating yourself up for not having the goodbye that you
thought you should should have until you then realized, well,
wait a minute, we did actually have our time and
it was the perfect goodbye that she would want. Can
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you talk to me about that a little bit?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, I mean we on that day, my gut was
like very very much screaming at me, do not go
on this trip. But my mom couldn't travel at the time,
and she loved to travel, and I was going to Monica,
which is a place we had been together, and she
was like, I need you to do this, you know,
for me, and so I went and in that day
we did a lot of things. You know, we talked
(12:29):
about my now husband and you know, sort of had
that relationship conversation. There were a lot of things that happened,
but one of the things we were doing was planning
her big party for you know, sort of how she
was going to come out on the other side of
all of this and celebrate with her friends and you know,
then travel again and you know, sort of do all
of those things. And when that didn't happen and I
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didn't get that goodbye, I was very angry and it
stayed with me for a while until I realized that
for my mom and I, what we did best was
magic and joy, and we had that that day in
sort of the hopefulness of her being okay and what
that was going to be. And the truth is, I
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don't know that my mom and I would have known
how to say goodbye, and so I do ultimately feel
like our goodbye was what it was supposed to be
and it was supposed to be her letting me go
from a distance and me letting her go from a distance.
And I know that it wasn't easy for her, and
I definitely know that it wasn't easy for me. But
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I feel like our last moment was hopeful and was
magical and was joyful and I get to keep that
with me, and that means a lot.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Wow, to be in a place to have that, you know, mentality,
And I'm sure you had to work through a place
to get there, you know, But what a beautiful feeling
of peace I imagine that is. And I'm getting like
a little choked up because I think so many people
need to hear that and need to know that sometimes
how things unfold or how they're supposed to, you know,
I don't I don't believe in coincidences. I don't believe
(14:03):
in accidents. I think the universe takes care of you.
That's just my mentality.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Same, yeah, And I.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Think that that's a really vulnerable part of you that
you put in this book. That is, if there's any
reason alone it's to read the book, it's for that.
Besides all the fun stuff that you talk about as well,
like the moon water, which, by the way, need to
do immediately.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yes, you do. It's really fun. It's really fun, and
it will get you to drink water, so it's simply
for that purpose too. But there really is there, like
there's a there's I feel like there's scientists and people
that have come out saying that, like, you can definitely,
you can definitely like infuse your body with intentions and
good thoughts by you know, taping a word on your
water bottle or whatever, and the kids and I just
(14:45):
kind of took it to a new level adding the moon.
But yeah, it's really it's really fun. I highly recommend it.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Those little tips and tricks are so exciting for people
to live a truly magical life. I love that too.
We live in New York City and I'm like, Geo,
we need to go find the moon and put a
water a Central park or something and make it.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Out of it. Yes, well, maybe don't leave it out
overnight in Central Park. Somebody might drink it and then
you yeah, no, no, let's try to find a balcony maybe.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Okay, all right, fair enough, please, we'll work on that.
We'll work on that. The holiday junkie is something that
you've become synonymous alter ego. Yeah, is it is? And
I believe you kind of launched that or started that
(15:31):
concept back in like twenty thirteen, Is that right?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
So what is the holiday Junkie?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
So technically I have to give credit to Instagram followers
because they were the ones who initially called me a
holiday junkie and it sort of stuck with me, and
it really is. It is a total other mindset besides
magic they go together, but the holiday junkie is truly
(15:59):
like who I am? I I like for me and
I put it in the book. There's a calendar to
follow the holiday junkie, Like where's the normal people in
the world? See five holidays? I see like twenty there
are twenty possibilities to put up stuff, to decorate, to
go there to like be extra have fun and celebrate
not only life, but like you know things. And it's
(16:21):
become this brand. I have a card line with these
amazing women at twenty twenty one Co and we make
holiday Junkie cards. It's expanding in this new year, coming
up into sort of some consumer products that they're really
excited about. It's been clothing, it's been you know it's
it's a thing, but it's who my friends and family
know me as and it is a it is a
(16:43):
title that I wear so proud. And it's just like
finding all of the little pockets of joy to just
celebrate and just be happy. And it's I guess it's
also a mindset and an intention. But yeah, happy to
be the holiday junkie. And it's a movie that people
can watch on the fourteenth, which is exciting.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
And you play like a decorator, right I do.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I play a woman who essentially is hired to decorate
for Christmas, but also plan a magical itinerary for a family.
And then I meet a handsome house manager who also
happens to be my really husband and we fall in
love at Christmas. And I'm in grief at Christmas because
I've just lost my mom and he's in grief because
he was left at the altar.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Oh what a t ease, right?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
You know? Yes, sign me only sad people at Christmas
who just happened to kiss. It's awesome.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Oh I love that. That is so much fun. And
you know what, I love that you've embraced the holiday junkie.
And again, it's so on Brandon and theme to your
book and everything that we're talking about today and enjoying
all the little moments in life. I mean, why not
with everything life throws you like, why not lean into that?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yes, yeah, I talk about that a lot with my kids.
We talk a lot about how you know, in our
house with each other where supportive and we're always kind,
and we really shore each other up inside our house
because when you step outside, the world is going to
do with you what it wants, and that's just the truth.
And we can't protect each other from that, even though
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we want to. But we can start in our home
with the intention of magic, the intention of good and
shoring each other up and supporting each other the best
that we can so that you know, when we walk out,
it doesn't hit us quite as hard as it might
hit others. And so we talk about that a lot
with our kids, and we try to do that as
much as we can. Sometimes we don't succeed, but we try. Well,
(18:38):
you do the best we can, right, we try, We
really try.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Well.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
What a beautiful environment to create in your home? And
I noticed that throughout the book you have so many
beautiful pictures that you show of your family, and your kids,
And I do feel like it's probably one of the
more personal moments in your life and career that you
have gotten with your family, because rightfully so, you've you've
protected them, you know, so much throughout your life. Why
did you feel like this was the right time to
(19:03):
start opening up a little bit more about your kids
and your family?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
That's interesting. Again, it wasn't supposed to necessarily be that.
But as I started writing about my mom and our
connection and her being a magic maker and sort of
passing that on to me and wanting to pass that
on to my children, Brian and I both were kind
of like, how do we not include them? Like how
does this not become about them? And then in sort
(19:27):
of writing it and realizing what my mom had left me,
the book really became a chance for me to show
them what I'm leaving them, you know, so that one
day when I'm not here, which hopefully won't be until
I'm like one hundred and twenty, I'm gonna look scary,
but I'm really dry for one hundred and twenty. But
you know, when I'm not here, they'll have it and
they'll be like, oh, that was her magic and what
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she left us behind. And I do say in the
book that I think that's our job as magic makers.
Like people who who can sort of wrap their head
around that mindset and that intention are our goal should
be to pass that on and leave that for people.
And so it really just became a love story that
started with my mom and ended with my kids and
my husband, and you know, we talked to them about it.
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We asked them if they were okay with, you know,
kind of putting all this out, and of course they
were like, yes, we've been waiting. We need the world
to see us. We're wonderful. They were hilarious. My daughter
was like, yes, can I be on the cover. I'm
like okay, So you know, they were ready. But yeah,
it took us a minute to kind of wrap our
heads around it. And again, I think it also felt
like a safe space because it was me writing about us,
(20:33):
it wasn't other people writing about them, and it was
us sort of being able to control what we showed
and what we talked about and what we didn't. And
it's been really positive so far.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, it's beautifully done, truly, truly beautifully done. And I
couldn't help but think, you know, while reading your story
in your background. I know you credit so much of
the magic in your life now to your upbringing with
your mom and being the holiday junkie. But from me,
when I think about some of the things that I
do today, I think about how as a kid I
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didn't have those moments sometimes, And I wonder for you,
as a working actor as a child, right, did you
miss out on some of those magical moments in life
because of your career that now you want to make
sure you know your kids don't miss out on those,
and you don't et miss out on those, Like is
there anything connected to that being so busy so young?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Oh? One hundred percent. I mean, I think part of
the holiday junkie magical part of mine is that kid
in me that didn't have a chance to do those things,
you know, that was busy trying to be a professional
and I was surrounded by adults. I mean, I wasn't.
The first high school party I ever went to was
a movie called Can't Hardly Wait. I had never been
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to a high school party or a party at all
that wasn't like, you know, the Golden Globes or something like.
It was very random, So I didn't get to experience
those things. I didn't sort of get to have those things.
And you know, my my daughter says it to me
a lot, and so does my my Atticus. I'll always say, Mommy,
you're kind of like a kid, and I'm like, I
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am because there's a part of me that didn't get
to be And so I do have fun now with
my kids sort of being that way and tapping into
that part of myself that maybe didn't get to sort
of let go as much or experience some of those things.
And I do think that, you know, my mom made
magic for me in the ways that she could, but
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in sort of the career taking off the way that
it did, and you know, that's a train that just
kind of moves without you at some point. There was
a lot of that that I didn't get to do.
So I am doing it now with my own kids,
and it's fun.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
And that's so funny to think about. When you mentioned
can Harley Waite, like you had no idea what a
real high school party was. No.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
The whole time we were filming and I was like, guys,
is this really what high school parties are like? And
they would laugh at me and be like no, No,
I mean maybe like the best one you've ever been
to ever, But yeah, I mean those were all the
things I've never been. I've only been to a I'm
on a TV show. All the things that I did
at those times like I was doing them as my character,
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so I felt like I was doing them, but they
weren't my own experience. So it's really funny to now
go back, and I think about that a lot. With
my kids. I think a lot about like, wow, like
they're going to go to prom and I'm going to
be like, I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Well, you clearly have to be the chaperone at the prominance,
right that would be fun?
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Right?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
You showping a big ball gown.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
They're like, Mom, can you imagine to really get out
of here? Oh?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, well that's super interesting And what a what a
wild perspective that I could see, you know, I could
see why you want to bring that magic to life
for anybody who didn't have something in their in their
youth right that they didn't experience for whatever reason, and
now wanting to really go hard and to make sure
that not only the people around you but yourself, like
you get to really enjoy something as well. So that's
that's super cool. Another super cool thing is all the
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recipes you share, so many delicious things throughout the course
of this book. I'm like, oh my god, what am
I going to make first? Like, what is what is
the number cottail? I was going to say, what's like
the number one must have?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I mean, his Christmas cocktail is so good. We only
have it that time of year or this time of year,
so I'm really excited about it. I'm going to beg
him to make me one later since it's a Friday
night that I love. The Megan's cookies are delicious. Nana's
apple pie I just made for the first time actually
holding the book and using it for my daughter's birthday
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because that's what she wanted, is her birthday cake. So
we did that. I mean, they're so good. My Grandma's
chicken and dumplings are amazing. It was really funny. Somebody
the other day was like, why are there none of
your recipes in there? And I was like, because that's
not who I am. Like I am like the Pinterest
Instagram girl who's like, somebody else tell me how to
cook this and I'll do it great. I love to cook,
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but I'm not like I don't come up with things
on my own sort of person. And they're like, well,
didn't you just want to put that in the book,
And I was like no, because then somebody's gonna ask
me how to make that. I'll be like, I don't know.
I was like, but I'm surrounded by all these amazing
people who have these great recipes, so I put theirs
in instead. It was very funny.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah, there's enough options for everybody.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
We're good, you know we have I'm fine, I'm fine,
I make the party, who makes the food?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
There? We go? There, we go. Well now, and the
spirit of mixing up recipes, we're gonna do a little
something called mixing up questions with you. Oh okay, and
we're gonna do all sorts of fun, little random questions
to touch on some highlights of Jennifer Love Hewett. Okay, okay,
are you ready?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I'm I think so. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
First one, nine one one. The show you're on. People
love It went from Fox to ABC. Ratings are stellar.
People can't get enough of it. It's coming back in March.
I believe there's gonna teas that you've been kidnapped in
the show. Is there anything you can tell us about
your arc for the second half of the season.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
It is the craziest thing I've ever done on nine
on one. All I can say the audience is not ready.
I was not ready. I was not ready.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, my voice like if I don't know if you
can tell, but my voice is like kind of out.
It has been this way since we filmed it.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Really, And did you know this storyline was coming or
just totally not?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I did not.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah, it's wild, but it was so fun. Oh, I
can't wait for people to see it. It was so fun.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Okay, that's a good tease. That's a good teas we're
ready for it. And another thing when I announced it
was my guests people were writing and they love your
dynamic with you know, your brother on the show, buck
and they think you guys are so much fun. How
is playing that for you?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
It's great, it's great. I love ol of our We
have a great time. And I just think Mattie's a
really good sister. I love that she's like sort of
his mom ish but all so his cysts and Bucket
is such a fun character. He's been through so much
and goes through so much and you know, yeah, it's
it's really fun for me. I love it.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
And there's a lot of speculation out there on that
dark web that you think his character might have a
little crush on Eddie.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I know.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Well, I had to feed into it because everybody wants
it to happen, and so I was like, I'm going
to be that person who feeds into this a little
bit so that people will go crazy. And they did,
and then everybody got mad at me because they're like,
don't feed into them.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
You were stirring that pot, was.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Stirring it right up. Well, it's fun to stir the pots.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
All right, fair, sometimes you have to.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I don't know what's going to happen with them, but
I mean I wouldn't. I would be all for it
if it happened to me. Just say that there're gonna
be worse things to see on TV.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Well, that's true. That's true. That's really funny. You were
seeing it and just totally acted off of it. You're like,
I'm going to turn the conversation.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah, I was. I mean, I'm a forty five your
old mom of three. Sometimes I gotta do something fun, right,
Like I want to be in the conversation. So I
got in the conversation a little bit, but then people
got mad at me because then they were like, well,
it didn't happen yet. So she lied to us, and
I was like, guys, can't I just drink my morning
coffee and stirts hot?
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Hello, I'm here for it. I'm here for good, good,
good good. You know you said like an Italian. If
I didn't know better, I think you were like fully italiant,
always wanted.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
To be Italian? Can I be like an honorary Italian?
Is that a thing that people do?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Absolutely, I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
All right, absolutely, okay, brilliant. I love that answer. Now
let's talk about Heartbreakers for a second.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
In my opinion, I actually met Sigourney Weaver. My friend
is Barbara Strausgan's tour director, and he had like a
little after party. I mean, who says that, Like I
just threw up after saying that myself.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
On let me just put that make me jump the floor.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Okay, Like I really just say that. I did. But
she was at the after party and we weren't talking,
and I said, I have to tell you Heartbreakers is
one of the all time greatest movies, and she goes,
you know what, I think so too. With a big
smile on.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Her face, she said that we had a good time.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
It was such a good movie. I feel like at
one point there was a rumor that you might be
interested in adapting into a television series. Is there a
truth to that? Is there still interest?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
So there is. We actually went out with it a
bunch for a television series, and then sort of the
business fell apart with the strikes and all of that stuff.
So it's still out there. We do have a great
script for it and a pitch for it, and it's
still my goal at some point to do Heartbreakers the
TV series.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Okay, remind me when we're off this, because I have
someone I need you to talk to.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Okay, fantastic.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Okay, So that just came into mind. Okay, good, So
there's hope for that. Love it. Where do I want
to go next? Okay, let's hit a music question. Oh fine,
let's go Bang was like my album of my adolescence.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I'm so sorry for you, and this clearly was.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
And this was when I thought I was straight even
sorrier for you, blasting it in my sky blue Toyota
camera being like yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, right, That's how I felt. About it too well.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I don't know why you're saying it, because I loved
that album. I listened to it on a rebeat back
back in the day when CDs were a thing. I love.
I love a good CD, and I would play it
repeatedly driving around the streets of New Jersey. I think
it's time for a follow up to some of your albums. Yeah,
(30:37):
Fair Naked of course is a fan favorite, so like,
what do we gotta do to get a new album?
I know you released songs here and there, beautiful songs
like you what are you keeping us waiting for?
Speaker 2 (30:46):
You know, I feel like it was a weird time
because when I came out with music, I mean it
was the time of Britney Spears and Avril Levine and
Michelle Branch and like, you know, all these people. When
I kind of did Bear Naked, it was like such
a such a rush of these incredibly talented people, and
I feel like there was a lot of like we
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just wanted to go back and cry on TV, like
why is she doing music right now? Except for the
people who loved it, which I appreciate you being one
of those and my grandmother, but you know, I would
love to go back to it. I really would. I
wouldn't tour or do any of that stuff because you know,
I'm in my forties and i'd probably throw my back
out and I have three kids. But I would love
(31:31):
to make I honestly have thought about this, and I
think it's why I'm kind of putting out little songs
here and there, just to sort of see what the
temperature is. I'd love to do like, you know, six
or eight songs on a little album and just kind
of like sneak it out and see what people think
of it, so you know, maybe it's coming hopefully.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Okay, I think the world is ready.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I'm working on it.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Love to hear it. Would you ever do Broadway?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Oh my gosh, I would love to do Broadway.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
I'm terrified to speak in public, really, yes, And I
have been offered stuff before, and I'm the singing part
I could totally do.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
But the idea of standing in front of an audience
and having to like say words, I think I would
pass out, Like I would be the first person opening
night to pass out on Broadway.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
But you're on a set with like three hundred people
staring at you.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
I know, and I don't know what it is. There's
just something about like famously literally like when I would
go and do like announcements on award shows and stuff
like that, I always they would try to get me
to do it by myself, and I would always have
to walk on stage with someone and literally right before
you walk out on the American Music Awards or something,
I would be like, dude, I amrified, Like you got
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to hold my hand or I have to squeeze your
arm or slat because I was petrified, Like I don't
know what it is or why. Maybe something happened to
me in another life on a Shakespearean stage perhaps, but
I am really scared. If I could get over it,
I would love to do Broadway. I really would.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
But I always thought, Actually, my cousin and I both think,
because we love theater, we love musical theater, we think
you'd be an Amazingnessa and wicked.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Oh my god, thank you m hm, so really.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Nice, just like leaving that one there for you in
case Nessa.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Have lara ingitis and not be able to talk.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
I don't think we're rewriting the show, but okay, fine,
I'll be fine, yeah, yeah, but let's just say we'll
leave that one there, and maybe you'll feel inspired to
reach out to casting.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Give me in the Clash Menagerie where I don't saying.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Oh my god, we just sit there. We have some
things to work through for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
We're gonna work through it for training, and then it'll
be fine.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Okay. To be continued on that front. To be continued,
Let's do two more fun ones. Let's see is there
a movie and a television show of yours that when
it comes on you have to watch it or you
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sometimes feel nostalgic and are like, I want to put
it on.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Got Whisper for sure, such an easy watch. Love that show,
And yes I am that person who will watch herself
in the Ghostwhisper. If I'm flipping channels, then it's on.
Movie wise, Heartbreakers probably only because it was like such
a swe Heartbreakers to me still feels like a thing
(34:24):
that didn't actually happen. Like the whole time that I
was on that movie, I felt like I was a
person who had entered like one of those random contests
on the radio to like win a part in a movie,
right because I would like look around and there would
be Gene Hackman and Ray Liotta and Sigourn me, and
I'm like, what am I doing here in no clothing? Like?
(34:45):
Why am I here? What is happening? Why is my
butt gonna be like giant on a screen? In like
the first ten minutes of the movie, Like the whole
thing just felt not real. And so whenever it's on
or like somebody's like, hey, I want to watch Party,
I'm like, yeah, me too, same because I have to
remind myself that I actually got the chance to like
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be in that like I was invited to be in
that movie. It was such a wild experience.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
And you know what's so interesting about that movie. There's
so many there's so much dialogue and so many different choices,
both you and Sigourney and everyone makes that I feel
like when you watch it, you see different things for
the first time, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yeah, yeah, because we had all of our you know,
common like personas, I guess that we had to Yeah,
it was, it was. It was wild.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
All I know is after I watched that movie, I
was walking around saying, may I grab your nuts and
salty like on repeat?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Sing it was my favorite thing to say to my
mom and grandmother. It makes them really uncomfortable. My grandmother
and my mom. By the way, we're there the day
that I was attached to Raleiota's crotch for twelve hours,
No oh oh yeah, I mean just to make it
worse for me. Yeah, it was why my grandmother was
like she had this big, big Texas I just She's
(35:58):
just like, sweetie, now, what exactly is happening in this
part of the movie. But I'd be like, uh, yeah
it was. Oh that movie was wonderful. It really was
so fun.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
How do you I mean, I know it's your job
and you're an actor and this is like what you do,
but when you go to a shoot like that and
you're like, okay, like for twelve hours, I'm going to
be attached to other actors crotch, Like, yeah, how do
you prepare for that?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
I mean I think I had to like not even
think about it because I was I was only twenty
two or twenty three when we to that movie. But
I will say, like, if you're gonna have to do
that with anyone, it should be Rayle Leota because he
was the most wonderful, extraordinary man, like just made me
feel so comfortable, was so kind, made all of the
(36:44):
right jokes about it to like just dissolve the situation.
But also it was like, you know, checking on me
and making sure that like mentally I was good physically
I was like, it was just you know, and it
was so funny with like my mom and my grandmother
and you know, apologizing in person and for that being
our day of work. He was just great. So you know,
I think he had a lot to do with how
(37:05):
easy that was. But yeah, I think I just that
whole movie. I was just like, I can't even think
about what I'm doing right now. It's just wild.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Well, another brilliant performance. We love to see it. And
the last mixing it up question, I think you know
what's coming.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
M hmm, I think you do. I think you do.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
So let's see how we handle this one. Okay, Internet detectives,
the sleuths if you suse, we have seen that I
know what you did last summer has begun production.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
It has.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
They have also seen that Freddy Prince Junior has been
on set. Yeah, it has released some stories saying he's
finished filming, which have come into question if they are
real or not. Stories. Also, my own sleuth thing has
detected that you have went from You've gone from shorter
hair to longer hair, looking a little bit more like
Julie James. Oh interesting, and you have a little time
(38:00):
off before going back to nine one one, So are
you possibly preparing to be Julie James again?
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I am possibly preparing for that. The hair change had
nothing to do with that. I just needed something new.
I get very bored with my hair very quickly, and
because of some things that are going to be coming
up on nine on one, it felt like a good
time to sort of change it up. So that's what
the hair change is for. I am so close to
(38:33):
being able to say something that's exciting, but it has
been very hard to do. And I want to clarify
this because so many people have been like like literally
the line in the movie, what are you waiting for?
Like what is happening right? And it has only been
scheduling and then me trying to make sure that if
(38:57):
I go back to the franchise, I just don't want
to be the ghost of like nineties past. You know,
it's like oooh I am you know, she like dissolves
off and like I really want to do something and
I want to be there for Julie James fans, and
so we have just been trying to figure it out,
and I think we're really close to figuring it out,
(39:20):
and I will be really I will be as excited
as everyone else if I can, if I can say
that officially very soon.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Yeah, and that makes sense. You want something like juicy
worth going back for Yeah, I just I.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Just wanted to like matter, you know, and not even
for like the new fans that I know you did
last summer, but for the moms who will be paying
for those tickets to take their kids because they loved
it the first one. I just want it to feel like,
you know, if she comes back, then it means something.
But what do we think about this hair? If I
did come back, do we feel like this is a
good like evolved twenty seven years later.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Julie, I think the hair is perfect for new Julie James.
I do, Okay, I really do.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
The first thing with this hair that you were the
deciding factor.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Okay, oh wow, I love it. You know what I think.
I think it's perfect. And what I will say, the
last thing I'll say is, presumably with these conversations going on,
and you want to come back, if there's a juicy
reason to come back.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Four.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
I think it seemed to say in the script, perhaps
truly is already in there.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yes, okay, yep, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Okay, all right, I know I can't get much more
out of you. We're going to leave it at that,
but we're leaving on a hopeful note.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
With this very hopeful.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
The one thing I will say is, just like your
song in the first one, how do ideal we need?
We're going to need another one.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
So if that's what I said, it needs to come
as another song. I know I'm working on that too.
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
It must be fun for you to hear how excited
people are and all the curiosity around you returning. I mean,
that movie really does mean so much to people. So
aside from like I'm sure always hearing about how people
want you to come back, it must be fun to
go through this again.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Oh my god, it's amazing. It's amazing. And I said
that to them when they came and even talked to
us about it, Like what an honor it is twenty
seven years later to even be thought of to come back,
Because the truth is they could do it without us.
They shouldn't, but they could do it. No, no, no,
And it's really nice that they don't want to, you know,
(41:31):
so I appreciate that, and I really appreciate that it
matters to the fans so much, because that's truly the
only people I care about in the circumstance, and so
I really want to give them. I want to give
them the answer that they want and that I want.
And we're yeah, we're very hopeful at this point.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Okay, wait, I have just one more on this. Okay,
have you heard anything about possibly Randy returning?
Speaker 2 (41:57):
I have heard that, yes, Okay, Because they were besties
in the movie, I had to remind myself, if I'm
being totally honest, I had to go through both movies
and remind myself who had died and who had it
because I'm in my forties, so I was like, wait,
(42:19):
can that person come back? And then no, oh no, no,
oh yeah no that was that one was bloody. But
I was like because my first thought was we have
to have Jack Black, and then I was like, oh no,
he died. Yeah, so yeah, I had to go. I
had to run through real quick and just make.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Sure something you just can't come back from, like Jack Bike.
I'm sorry, it just can't happen.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Yeah, people are a little mixed on.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
But she's I mean, she was frozen and nice. My
head was off. I mean it's pretty I don't know
that we can be I don't know we can be
confused about that one. But but yes, And then I
just heard that there's this whole thing where they think
that Sarah and I were fighting or something. Have you
heard this? Really? All these things out there? And I
was like yeah, and that, like, yeah, it's been really fun.
(43:05):
I've I've really enjoyed going and like trying to read
the stuff now and be like, what are people saying
about when we did the movie before? You know, now
all of that stuff and there somebody somebody the other
day was like, yeah, I think Julie made sure that
she was killed because girl actresses don't like to work
with girl And I was like, what are you I
(43:27):
was eighteen, they were not taking script notes from me. Guys,
Like what are you talking about? There were probably friends totally,
I mean all of us were like in that experience
together kind of you know, figuring it all out and everything,
and I root for her and Freddie and like, I
think it's the cutest thing in the world that they've
been married for one hundred years and have kids and
it's like adorable. So yeah, no, it's just been really
(43:49):
funny to see all of the stuff that people think.
But yes, I have also heard the Brandy murmer and
and yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
All right, that's a lot of good information. All I
know is if you're not in a little crop top
running around.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Again, oh god, there will not be a crop top
that can. I tell you the funniest story, honestly, my
son Atticus when thought it was the most innocent sweet thing,
but it killed. It was like I was dead, Like
it was really funny. He was watching the movie and
he came running out and he was like, Mommy, I
just saw the weirdest thing. He was like, there was
(44:24):
this stuff up here, and I was like, sweetie, that's
where mommy's boobs used to be. Good.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Stop. Stop.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
It was like it was so innocent. So so he
was so worried about what was up there because he's
so used to them being lower. Because I'm in my
forties and I sped three children. So I made the
joke the other day. I was like, guys, if this happened,
like we're gonna have to tie him up over my
ears and invite him back up.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
For the next movie.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Push up true like Marionette's holding them up as I
run through something. Oh my god, it was hilarious. It
made me laugh so hard.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
It was that's pretty amazing, and then.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Confused as to how they ended up this way. It
was very funny.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
That might be the headline for the entire interview. Oh god, great,
Oh my god, you know I'm serious. That's that's really
really really cute. That's really cute. And going off of
that and giving you some flowers for a minute. On
a serious note, like I said earlier, you've been working
your whole career and since you were a kid, and
(45:40):
you've done so many different genres and categories and film
and TV and music. Are you to point in your
life and in your career where you can look back
at everything you've done and say, like, man, I'm pretty
proud of me, Like I've I've done it, like I've
accomplished my dreams. Because it's so hard for all of
us to do that, and not that we sit around
doing that, but do you feel like you can look
(46:01):
at all of that and say, wow, I genuinely am
proud of me.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
I do. I do feel proud. I do feel proud,
and I feel proud because I think along the way,
if you had asked me a million different times, I
would have said, I don't know, it might be over tomorrow,
Like I don't know, Like I just have always been,
you know, worried about that. And so it is really
nice to sit now at forty five and be like, yeah,
(46:26):
I did that, Like I did what I wanted to do,
and I'm still going and I and it's so fun
for me that, like I still get nervous to go
to work. I still get worried when things are going
to come out, if people are going to like them.
I still you know, care about Julie James and like
how to make that great for people. And you know,
(46:47):
I have not lost my love for this job, like
even a little. And that is awesome and I feel
like that is a success in itself. And yeah, I
am proud of what I've been able to do and
hope that I get to continue for a long time.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Oh that's good to hear. I think it's always nice
when you can reflect back and have a moment of
praise for yourself because none of us do it enough?
Speaker 2 (47:09):
You know, I know, don't.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
We don't, we don't. I think that's super cool. Well,
as we wrap up this conversation, oh boy, here we
go the name of the show. Oh you know what's coming.
It's called I've never said this before, And the show
is born because I cover a lot of red carpets
and junkets and you get like three minutes, maybe six
minutes if you're lucky, at a junk get to talk
(47:31):
to people. And I just saw this longing in people's eyes,
wanting to talk about things a bit more substantial, right,
and a bit more a bit more real life, which
we've done a lot today already. But I'm wondering, is
there anything that comes to mind for you that you've
never said before that you wanted to say or share today,
whatever that means to you.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yeah, I think it does sort of fit with what
we have been talking about a little bit. I do.
I think I've never said out loud before to anyone,
maybe other than my husband, and that I have a
real fear as a mom about the kind of mom
I'm going to be when my kids are teenagers. And
it kind of goes back into what we were talking
about before in that I just don't have like I
(48:12):
never went to high school, like walk down to high school.
I mean I did the school work of high school
and I graduated and I but I did it on
a set. I never went to a high school party
other than can't hardly wait. I haven't had those experiences.
And right now I feel like I really thrive as
a mom because the kid in me can throw a
magical party and it can you know, make a magical
(48:36):
movie theater moment or you know, whatever it is. And
like the kid in me is thriving as a mom.
But when it comes to being a teenager or a
grown up, you know, kind of going into your grown
up place as a I really worry, like it panics
me a lot that I'm going to fail somehow because
I don't have those life experiences. And thankfully my husband
(48:59):
does and he was he lived a very normal teenage life.
But I don't want to fail them that way, Like
I really want to thrive and be there for them
and do that and not like weirdly want to show
up at the prom because I never about to go
to one, Like I could just see myself like also
coming down the stairs and She's all that moment and
(49:20):
Autumn being like not now, this is not your time,
you know, Like I just want to I just want
to be there for them, and I want to I
want to know all the things. But I don't have
those life experiences, and it gives me a lot of anxiety.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
So how do you calm that? Or can you not?
Speaker 2 (49:38):
I can't. I mean, I think I just have to
do my best. Yeah, Like I think I'm just gonna
have to do my best. And and I think maybe
I said it to Autumn the other day because she's
eleven now, and you know, we were kind of talking
about it, and she was like, what was it like
when you were eleven? And I was like, oh boy,
here we go. I was at auditions, like I have
no I have no reference for her that's going to
be helpful. But I told her how I felt inside.
(50:01):
And so I feel like, maybe I'm just going to
have to go with my gut and maybe I'm just
going to learn a lot. Like I feel like I'm
I feel like maybe there's a part of me that's
going to go and experience it, maybe for the first time,
and I'm going to have to be okay with that.
And maybe there will be something beautiful that comes out
of it, but it makes me very afraid.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Well, after reading your book and after talking to you
for almost an hour, it's clear you know what you're doing,
and your family is very lucky to have you, and
I think you know it's it's normal to feel all
those things. But yeah, something tells me you're going to
be just fine. Just don't show up in the prom
ball gown. Please wait?
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Okay, all right, I won't. Maybe for my fiftieth I'll
throw myself a prom How about that?
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Oh that would be so cute.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Right you want to call me?
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Yes, I am a great you could come from. Oh
my god, I love that so much, Jennifer, love you.
What a pleasure this is been today. I could talk
to you for four more hours. I just I am.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
I had such a good sign.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
Oh you're you're a brilliant artist. This book is brilliant.
Inheriting magic is out now. Where can people grab it?
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Barnes and Noble, Amazon, all the all the places, I think,
And I'm really really grateful, and I just hope that
they love it so much.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
And Holiday Junkie is out.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yes on the fourteenth at eight pm. On Lifetime.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
Okay, so read the book, watch the movie, get in
the festive spirit, and thank you so much for hanging out.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Thank you so much, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
I've Never Said This Before is hosted by Me Tommy Didario.
This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Puglisi at iHeartRadio
and by me Tommy, with editing by Joshua Colaudney. I've
Never Said This Before is part of the Elvis Duran
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(52:00):
tell your friends. Until next time, I'm Tommy Diderio.
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