There’s No Business Like...
THERE’S NO BUSINESS LIKE... The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional arts touring industry! The ”Quad” Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week. Learn more at https://nobusinesslike.com
Episodes
Ep. 138 Christopher Kendrick-Castanho: Full Circle Moment
We’re headed to Broadway this week as Danielle and Bryan talk about the Broadway League’s 2025 Spring Road Conference and arts marketing with guest Christopher Kendrick-Castanho. Christopher shares about social media and influencer marketing, some of the rising challenges in the Broadway touring industry, and turns th...
Ep. 137 The Pod Goes “Wildcard”
It’s a “choose your own adventure” discussion as Katie borrows this week’s format (with tweaks) from the NPR podcast “Wildcard” and our hosts select their questions from a deck of notecards. We reflect on our work, our current challenges, what’s bringing us joy...and the time machine is back! Share your own answers with us via social media or...
Ep. 136 State of the Arts: Montana Edition!
This week, Katie sits down with the head of a presenters consortium, the head of a state arts council, and the head of a performing arts center, all from the State of Montana, in our first ever episode focused on one singular state. They discuss how presenting in Montana is different, funding concerns, the Yellowstone Effect, and...
Ep. 135 Arts Data Redefined- The Conversation
This week the Pod Squad shares their thoughts on Josh’s conversation with Angela Meleca, Founder and Chief Advocate Officer of Meleca Creative Associates (https://www.melecacreative.com/). They share their thoughts on the Return on Arts concept and more. If you have not listened to that interview, please listen to Episode 134, f...
Ep. 134 Angela Meleca: Arts Data Redefined
This week Josh shares his conversation with Angela Meleca, and our hosts opt to save their commentary until next week so our listeners can sit with this one a bit longer. Angela shares her journey to where she is now, spending more time on her true passion, the Return on Art (ROA). Angela also shares how she is leading a cohort to m...
Ep. 133 What Keeps You Up?
This week Barron Ryan and Jacob Deaton join Katie, Josh, and Danielle to talk about the industry and what keeps them up at night. Don’t worry, it’s not all doom and gloom, what’s keeping these folks up are big ideas!
To learn more about our guests, you can listen to their full interviews:
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Ep. 132 Michelle Grove Herzog: There Is Not a Linear Path
This week Danielle sits down with Michelle Grove Herzog to talk about going from a musician (violin) to consultant and Director of the Arts Admin Program and the University of Arizona. She shares conversations about board management, fiscal sponsorships, grants and more. The Pod Squad talks about their interactions wi...
Ep. 131 Mark Ross and Erika Finley: Does Your Board Reflect Your Community?
Josh finally asks the important question, what would our hosts name their bands! Then he shares his conversation with Mark Ross and Erica Finley when they spoke at APAP 2025. Mark and Erika share how they got started in the arts, the interesting history of Community Concert Associations, volunteerism...
Ep. 130 Alex Morgan is Silencio Pantomimo: From the County Fair to Paris
This week Bryan sits down with professional mime, Alex Morgan. Alex shares how he got into the art form, running away to Paris, and finding his character, Silencio Pantomimo. The interview really takes off when Alex allows Bryan to interview Silencio and we learn how we went from busking in Paris to to...
Ep. 129 Bracket Madness: What Our Industry Can Learn From Sports Marketing.
This week the hosts go all in on March Madness sharing their prowess and knowledge of College Basketball, which does not take long so they move onto what our industry can learn from sports, more specifically sports marketing.
Ep. 128 What’s Happening in D.C.?
This week Kevin, Josh, and Katie discuss Ep. 126 with James Shapiro, and connect it to what is happening with the Kennedy Center and the National Endowment for the Arts in 2025. They dive into some practical and philosophical questions surrounding the politicization of two national arts entities and potential impacts on the live performing a...
BONUS: James Shapiro working on Broadway’s Othello
This week’s episode had too much for one episode! Enjoy this excerpt that was cut for time where James Shapiro talks about his work on performances, specifically Othello featuring Denzel Washington. James Shapiro (https://www.jamesshapiro.net/) is the author “THE PLAYBOOK: A Story of Theatre, Democracy, and The Making of ...
Ep. 126 “The Playbook” with Author James Shapiro
This week Katie is joined by author, professor, and Shakespeare Scholar in Residence at the Public Theatre, James Shapiro. They talk about Shapiro’s new book “THE PLAYBOOK: A Story of Theatre, Democracy, and The Making of a Culture War” which is the story of the start and end of the Federal Theatre Project in the 1930s. Shapir...
Ep. 125 The State of Development with Lori L. Jacobwith
This week, Kevin sits down with fundraising professional Lori L. Jacobwith to talk about the changing development landscape. Lori shares her top 5 things you can do right now and gives insight into the world of philanthropy. If you want to go deeper on the topic with Lori, you can check out her webinar with GrantStation...
Ep. 124 Of, By, and For Community – A Discussion about Community Engagement
This week Katie invites industry leaders Donna Walker-Kuhne, Gary Minyard, and Marisol Sánchez-Best to discuss community engagement – a broad term that touches many facets of our industry. This delightful conversation between colleagues and friends just scratches the surface as they discuss language,...
Ep. 123 What’s Next? The Pod Goes Rogue
The Pod Squad has been hosting the most amazing podcast (we know we’re biased!) for over two years – and it’s time to shake up the format. Listen for what’s next for There’s No Business Like... and give us your feedback via our audience survey! We’d love to hear your ideas for topics, guests, and more.
Ep. 122 What Now? Our Current Moment in the Arts
This week we discuss the current state of the arts in early February 2025 and identify a few of the many challenges ahead for our field, including the strain on arts workers after recovering from the pandemic, as well as how we can stand together moving forward. As some of our podcast friends say, things may have changed by th...
Ep. 121 Live from MAX – State of the Industry
This week we share the final episode recorded at the Midwest Arts Xpo in 2024.
Our guests:
Lauren Jelencovich, Artist
Kris Kaminski, ECE Touring
Andy Mc...
Ep. 120 Melanie Weir: They Don’t All Become Artists
This week our hosts talk about obscure reports they gave in school, most of which involved dressing up as historical figures. Katie shares her conversation with Melanie Weir from the Western Arts Alliance Conference. Melanie shares the incredible work happening at the Luther Burbank Center for the Arts, how she got started ...
Ep. 119 APAP Recap 2025
This week Katie hosts a conversation with the PodSquad on their time in NYC at APAP 2025. We talk Broadway, showcases, and conference hot topics!
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