There’s No Business Like...
THERE’S NO BUSINESS LIKE... The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional arts touring industry! The ”Quad” Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week. Learn more at https://nobusinesslike.com
Episodes
Ep. 194 The Michigan Maven, Katie Trzaska-Miller
This week Kevin checks in with Katie and gets an update on two years of Michigan Maven Creative Associates. We find out what she has been working on, what drives her, and the challenging nature of balancing it all.
You can learn more and contact Katie at MichiganMaven.art
Ep. 193 Who is the Meet and Greet For? This week Danielle wants to know more about the logistics of meet and greets, as her venue prepares for a style of meet and greet with an artist they haven’t facilitated before. We get into the questions of who they are for, how artists and venues can mutually benefit, and how to make the experience great for all parties involved.
Ep. 192 Building a Culture of Care
Josh recently had a visit from Friend of the Pod Todd Wetzel (Ep. 162), who is currently cycling across America – and he inspired this week’s conversation about the importance of taking time off, rest, and instilling that in our personal and organizational cultures.
Ep. 191 Connecting the Dots Through NAPAMA This week we join Josh, Kevin Peters, and Spring Karlo in Tucson, AZ from the 2026 NAPAMA Retreat. We learn about the history of NAPAMA, the collaborative role it plays in the industry, and the unique aspects of the annual retreat. NAPAMA (North American Performing Arts Managers & Agents) is an organization of agents, managers, self-represented artists, pr...
Ep.190 Amanda Cooper – Under The Radar: If you don’t know who to ask – Ask Me.
This week we bring our next episode in our Under the Radar Series. Kevin and Josh sit down with Producer Amanda L. Cooper. Amanda was producer for Sunny Jain’s “Love Force” at Symphony Space as part of the 2026 Under the Radar Festival. We learn about Amanda&rsq...
Ep.189 New Jobs, Real Talk
This week we check in with Kevin and Bryan on how their new gigs are going, and discuss transitioning to new jobs, integrating with staff, creating positive workplace culture, and lessons in leadership. It’s a valuable conversation for anyone considering a move or taking on a new challenge. Follow us on social media and let us know your tho...
Ep. 188 State of the Arts: Pacific Northwest This week Katie sits down with leaders from Arts Northwest and the Oregon Arts Commission to learn more about what’s happening beyond the Rocky Mountains. We get a vibe check on the scene and explore some of the challenges these organizations are addressing in the region. Amy Lewin is the director of the Oregon Arts Commission and Oregon Cultural Trus...
NBL Rewind: Broadway’s Biggest Night – Voting for the Tonys
The Tony Award nominations for 2026 just dropped, so we are rewinding back to our Tony episode from 2025.
The lights are bright on Broadway as Katie and Josh learn all about the Tony Awards from Broadway producer Rashad Chambers and the Wharton Center’s Eric Olmscheid, ...
Ep. 186 AI Plans an Episode
This week we needed a “brain break”, as the kids call them, and Bryan, Danielle, and Katie answer some questions about the industry written by AI just for the Pod. We did have some moments of deep reflection, as well, and we’d love to hear your answers, too! Make sure to share in the comments on our socials.
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Ep. 185 Audience Etiquette in the Modern Age This week Josh, Danielle, Katie, and Bryan dive into only some the nuances of audience behavior and expectations from a venue and presenter perspective – how to manage conflict, what our responsibilities are, and how to make the live performance experience enjoyable for everyone in the face of shifting cultural tides. And guess what... it’s comple...
Ep 184 Mark Russell – Under the Radar – How it all began
This week Kevin and Josh continue with the Under the Radar Series by sitting down with Mark Russell, the founder and one of the current artistic directors of the Under the Radar Festival. He discusses his origins in theater, how he began working in New York City, and then how Under the Radar originate...
Ep 183 Booking in 2026 – Back to Normal?
This week the Pod Squad discusses how the booking cycle is going, and it feels strangely back to normal... but is that a good thing? We touch on some of the ongoing challenges and ideas to consider as we finalize our ‘26-’27 seasons and look forward. Agents and artists, we’d love to hear your perspective and wh...
Ep 182 Vikas Arun: We Don’t Do This for the Money
This week Vikas Arun of Project Convergence gives us a bit of a behind-the-scenes look at the life of a professional dancer. Katie dives into Vikas’s varied resume, including his time performing with the New York cast of STOMP, as well as working on So You Think You Can Dance.
Vikas Ar...
Ep. 181 – Opera, Ballet, and Public Perception
This week our hosts dive into the discussion around the comments of Timothee Chalamet. They question the relevance of some of the traditional arts like opera and ballet to the overall general public. They further question in what ways those classic art forms can gain more relevance to the general populous.
NBL Rewind: David Rowell: Inspiring the Next Generation
As colleges and universities are on Spring Break, we are taking a Spring Break of our own and rewinding to episode 72, highlighting a (now former) university presenter and his students.
Our hosts talk about times they said, “never again,” and then totally did again. This week Br...
Ep. 179 Are the Arts a Luxury?
As the State of Michigan considers a 6% luxury tax, which includes the performing arts, Josh, Kevin, and Pure Michigan Katie Trzaska-Miller, consider the impact and ask, have the arts become a luxury? Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by ...
Ep. 178 Project Convergence: The Rhythm of Collaboration
Katie sits down with Vikas Arun and Apoorva Natarajan, co-directors of the American dance company Project Convergence, home to the union of Bharatanatyam and American tap dance. A chance conversation at the Midwest Arts XPO led to this discussion about the state of dance in the presenting field, marketing for artists, ...
Ep. 177 Under the Radar Festival: The Edgy Side of Theater
Josh and Kevin sit down to discuss their experience with the Under the Radar Festival in NYC. They share what the festival is, what they did, and more. They also talk about a show outside of the festival, GREEF, a one-woman clown show. GREEF is a show by Christina Gelsone. Link to a post about the show: https://www...
Ep. 176 Willem Van Der Maij: Making Solo Show Production Easier
Today Bryan sits down with Willem Van Der Maij; the Founder, inventor, and managing director of Midian, a company that produces the Midian Prime – a wireless remote multi function midi control device. Hear how this device makes live performance easier for solo gig artists.
Ep. 175 Hot Headlines: Trump-Kennedy Center Closing?
Katie, Josh, and Kevin talk about the President posting about closing the Trump-Kennedy Center for two years for “renovations,” and funding of the NEA, among other topics, because you can’t talk about a Presidential social media post without diving into the state of America.
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