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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, all right, all right out here with my
guy Will Levis, we just.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Completed our golf challenge. I don't know about you, but
I was fired.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
I was too.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
It was not looking too hot after the first few holes,
and we pulled it together.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
We made it work.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
But it was not pretty.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
If you haven't watched it yet, for sure watching it
because it is, uh.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
It's gritty.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Like I we were driving home and these guys were saying, like,
hey man, after a third hole.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I did not think that was gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Well, I was like, we might have to like change
the video after nine holes and just start a new one.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Redo a different topic of some sort or something like that. No,
it's it's it's part of the deal.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I mean obviously, Like you know, you've been a lot
of situations in your life. One thing that I kind
of liked that we were dabbling in on on on
the golf course though today was like you you mentioned
like your recruiting journey.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yes, and everyone's got a different journey.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
That's kind of the cool thing between both, like the
journey and the draft, Like nothing goes as it seems
for anybody, but like out of high school, being from
kenety kid, What was the path to basically landing starting
off at Penn State.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, yeah, I'll start in high school.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Really, you just the recruiting landscape in general in the
Northeast is very slim. You know, we're lucky to get
a handful of guys out to power power five schools
every year. And so I knew it was gonna be hard,
but I mean I was up for the challenge. I
knew I had what it took from a just ability standpoint,
work ethic standpoint, I had the grades to go wherever.
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I you know, pleased and started going that academic route
at first, picked up some offers going into my junior year,
kind of checked off all the IVY league boxes.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
And I knew that I wanted to play football.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Professionally, and you know, that wasn't necessarily the the avenue
that was gonna make it easiest for me. So I
wanted to play big time ball. So I was looking
to try to get some bigger offers going into my
senior year.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
No one was biting. No one was biting.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I was so convinced, you know that like it won
one hit, then the rest would follow. And I think
other schools kind of felt that too, and they didn't
want to like give me that because then other schools
would would fall into place. But I was I was
just going from camps to camp to camp, you know,
lucky enough for my parents to be able to to
bring me around the country and and and check out
different schools and get in front of these coaches and show.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Them what I got.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
And I got to thank you know, Ken o'keeff who
was the quarterback coach at Iowa at the time. He
was a Connecticut guy, went to Notre Dame West Haven
our our arrival and had he had us out of
their camp. Uh called me the next day, offered me
a scholarship, and I remember jumping up and down celebrate
with my parents.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
And sure enough after that, you.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Know, other ones started coming old Miss Florida State UNC
And yeah, I felt really good about Iowa. Honestly, I
would have ended up there if it wasn't for you know,
Penn State. They had they had a spot open up.
Justin Fields had decommitted and end up going to Georgia,
so they had a spot went for their camp. They
offered me and committed the next day and had to
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make that phone called the coach parents, and that was tough,
but you know, you understood.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
But I felt like I did it right.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
I did the process right, did the decision part of
it right with you know, letting those other schools know
before I had committed and you know, ended off my
collegiate career starting at Penn State.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I mean, that's I like how you say that too,
because and you know, social media is a hell of
a thing these days, but like you look at some
of the youth and they don't have that same integrity, respect,
high character. Where they're they're bouncing around, they don't really
care about what a coach's feelings are. Necessarily they don't
care about I feel like a relationship pre anil era
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went a much longer ways than it is now. Now
it's it's a bidding war al most but for you
to be able to tell, you know, the coaches that
you weren't going to be able to go to like hey, thanks,
but no thanks. And also, as you know, to the
football world, it's it's a very small space where you
never know who might beware at what point, and you
want to keep those dynamics in those relationships. Well, you
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had your time at Penn State, ultimately like what it
led to the change to make make the move to Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I was just just football.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I mean, I knew that i'd have to get you know,
looking historically at quarterbacks that I had gotten drafted, they'd
been multiple year starters in college before they'd taken that
step and shown that they were ready. And I was
in a position where, you know, competed for the job.
My retort freshman year got beat out. Sean Clifford was
in front of me. He was only one year above me,
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and you know, if if he had stayed there his
entire career, then I knew I had I'd have to
wait for that last year to really start, right, And
so after that year kind of had the vision that
after that next year, as long as I had my
credits in line, I would be immediately eligible to play
at another school. So started loading up on credits, taking
dang near twenty five credits a semester. Wow, this was
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right before the transfer portal was a thing, so you
had to be a graduate to be able to play.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
So that's why I was.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I finished my degree in three years and started off
that spring semester, told him I was entering the transfer portal,
finished out my classes and then had the opportunity to
go to Kentucky and ended up going there. So it
was purely like a football situational decision. It was tough
to leave Penn State. I love it with all my heart,
send my kids there in a heartbeat, like great school,
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and enjoyed my time there.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Just shame that just football didn't work out well.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I mean it's basically the game things happened. But obviously
you know, the jump worked. It was a good move,
and I know that at your time at penns State,
from a statistical standpoint, you were waiting for that boom game.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
And then Kentucky started early.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
It felt like yeah, yeah, I mean I remember that
first started Kentucky like it was yesterday. My first pass
attemp as a Kentucky Wildcat went off my receiver's hands
and got intercepted, and I was like, ah, this is
not how we wanted to start. It was only up
from there. I think I threw four that first game,
and then we had a really good year that year,
only the believe the third ten win season in school history.
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It's going on to win the Citrus Bowl. So this
is just really really cool moment in year for me
after you know, three years of pretty much just waiting
on the sideline.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Right, I mean college quarterbacks, there's so many electrical ones
out there.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Who's your top five all time?
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Top five college quarterbacks of all time, that's a good question.
I'm gonna go Cam Newton, Tim Tebow, Johnny Manziel, Joe Burrow, and.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Dude, I might put Marcus Mariota up there.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
That's a strong list. Yeah, that's a strong list I've heard.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I've asked some questions like that floater in the past
about like top five wideouts in the league and things
like that. That's that's hard to argue with. I don't
even know who do you throw it there?
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Vincent I was gonna say he was even a little
too old for me.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Like, I feel like I could watch all of those
guys like growing up and like consciously know like what
was going on with the landscape of college football. So
I'm definitely forgetting guys from like, you know, the eighties, nineties,
early two thousands that I wasn't really able to watch.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
But yeah, Vince Young for sure is up there.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Well, guys even I mean, and like it's funny to
see where all these guys come out of and obviously
there's powerhouses in Cali and in Texas and in Florida,
but coming from a place like Connecticut, Like, what would
you say, are the top five states that produced players?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Ooh, Texas, Florida, Uh, I'm going sleeper, Pennsylvania, most Hall
of Famers, guys famers from any state. Yeah, I'll go Cali,
just from up pure, just throughout.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Here for sure, a couple of golfers.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, oh yeah, and then hm hm.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Georgia probably Georgia. Yeah, Georgia, Florida, Texas, Pennsylvania, Cali.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
That's strong.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
What am I missing?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
You don't miss see anything.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Jake, who was the guy who said, he said, like
Vermont or New Hampshire or something like that. We were
interviewing a guy from a certain state, and he I
forget what it was exactly. Yeah it was perk. Yeah,
it was perk.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
You could find at one guy in an NFL roster
born and raised in Vermont.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
I'd be, I'd be.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
It wasn't Vermont. It was a it was a weird
state though.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I want to say, And then you've got states like
you look in I think there's only a few guys
from Montana or Wyoming, and I don't even know there's
been an Alaskan yet or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Yeah, I know, I mean I feel like the New England.
I keep it keep tabs for who's in the league
from New England. For the most part, I don't know Vermont.
If I'm wrong, let me know. Yeah, but I know
we got some Bishop Pendrick and players in the league
right now from Providence.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
So that's where island.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
You mentioned we were talking side gigs a little bit.
You mentioned the move from Penn State to Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
You had to pay rents two places. Yeah, and you
were you were driving uber and door dash. Yeah, we
were the man of the people.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, this was pre nil.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
I mean I kind of got a little bit towards
the tail end, but didn't get the full taste. But
this was pre and paying two rents at a time,
couldn't get a sublet for for my Penn State apartment,
and getting to Kentucky, you know, broke as a joke.
No way to pay for these bills other than getting
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in the car every night spending a few hours just
door dashing. Uber In ended up shifting from Ubering to
just door dash you breats. You know, you can throw
on your own tunes, you on podcast whatever it say, like,
you know a bit more tips. I hung out right
on Nicholasville Road in Lexington. If anyone's familiar with every
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single chain restaurant that you can imagine, I just hang
out there in a lot, wait for a out back
steakhouse or a red lobster order, and cash in big time.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
So that's how I got by.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, that's crazy. What's you think? What do you think
is that most expensive door dash order you copped at
one point?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Probably like how much I made?
Speaker 4 (10:01):
I probably made like fifty bucks, like on one trip,
like a big like steak dinner order for a family
or something from out back like a tab that runs
you like two fifty or something, and then they throw
a nice generous tip on top, so you could you
could end those nights, you know, with a good like three,
four or five bucks in your pocket.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
It's not a bad at all. Yeah, it's not about
at all.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Your time at Kentucky eventually came to an end and
it was time to get ready for the draft. How
was that flip in your mindset going into that season
where your expectations I'm for sure declaring at the end
of this, was there any other scenarios you had?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
How did it progress leading up to the moment.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Yeah, I'd considered, honestly declaring after my junior year. I
didn't I didn't really know. I didn't think like based
on at least my stats or whatever. And it was
only my first year starting if it would have been
something that was realistic. But kind of had to make
a decision there at one point, and yeah, I was.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I was.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I was pumped to come back and play another year
and finish it right.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
And we didn't have the best you.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Know last year that I would have would have loved
to have, but you know, battled through it still showed
what I needed to to put myself in the spot
to get picked pretty high right. Started off the pre
draft process, you know, hearing really good things, hearing you know,
going as high as the top five pick, and riding
out that pretty much up until draft night and thinking
that was a possibility. And then had a you know,
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awesome time training out here, awesome time preparing felt like
I had, you know, hit all the nails on the
head and what I needed to do to get ready,
and you know, my tumultuous NFL career started on that
draft night where you know, I had that camera stuck
in my face, you know, ten times more than anybody else,
and just saw the picks keep rolling in and no
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phone calls. And yeah, once I got past like that
twelfth thirteenth pick, I knew that I was in for
a long night. So heard some chatter towards the end
of the first round that someone could be trading up
for me. Actually received a phone call at like the
thirtieth pick, and it was just a prank call and
I had to hang up. Yeah, at that point, I
was pretty much over it. The next pick was a
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baud to be in. I was like, all right, let's go, guys.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
And was it?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
How did he even?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I mean, I don't know first round draft pick phone
call numbers, but like, was it a buddy?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Was it someone who leads you?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I don't know. I still got their number, but no,
I don't care. I mean we had.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Based on what I was told, you know, I was
pretty confident that I would be going in that first round,
and we were planning on heading back that next morning,
and you know, got some of the media for not
staying that next day. But you know, we already had
flights and we already had plans to go back. And
I feel like the the light I was putting in
that moment was a little unfair, and I feel like
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that's that themes kind of continued throughout my career. But
you know, I was blessed to be able to get
picked at all and to get that phone call the
second I got through the doors in connecticuted my house
from from the Titans to get drafted. There, we were
pumped and nothing else mattered once Once that happened, it
was time to get to work.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Same as college man, just walk on as there's five stars.
As soon as you're in the building, it's time to work. Yeah,
as a quarterback too, you know, you're putting underneath a
different type of microscope. And as you as you just mentioned,
like there's a little bit more cameras in the face,
you get a little more followers off of it.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
They love you when you're up, they hate you and
you're down. It's part of that comes with the job.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
When adversity is struck in those situations or in your
life in general, Like if you have a backbone of
things that you.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Kind of always fall back towards rely on things.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
I definitely have my small, you know, tight group of
people maybe just like three four that I rely on
for advice and to to help bring me up. But
I've you know, I've seen everything at this point, I
feel like, and I keep saying that, but something new
keeps coming up. But I feel like that at this
point in my life and my career, there's never been
any smooth sailing, and I've always had some sort of
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bumps in the roads that I've had to pull myself
out of and you know, brush the dirt off and
keep going. So I just like to think back to
the moments that I've been previously that are like to
to what I could be facing in that moment, and
if I could have gotten myself out before, then I
know that I can do it again. So I've just
got that resilient mindset, and you know, it's just my favorite,
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you know saying in the world, my mantra has never
give up, and you know, I share as hell will
never do that and right, and that's that's what kind
of just brings me.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Up and makes me power through.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Sports are always going to be evolving. They are a business.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
There's when you're you know, you just get to Penn
State and you're you're you're fired up, You're the new
kid on the block. Right season goes by, Spring comes around,
not even spring, fall camps around, and you're hosting recruits
for a guy who like they want you to get
to come here and they're comeing to compete with you
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the next time. And it's like it doesn't quite make
sense even as you know, being in a receiver room,
it's like, my best friends are the guys who I
competed with for playing time in in in our careers,
and you're with them, and unless you've been in the
locker room and you've part of like we mentioned fall
camps earlier and stuff like, it's kind of a weird,
really unique dynamic. Like they're they're not your enemies by
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any means at all. They're they're guys you're with ten
hours a day. You're trying to I say, iron sharpens
iron all the time. You're trying to learn from them.
They're trying to learn from you, Hey, how can we
accomplish this job to the highest standard as possible, you know,
throughout this process. But at the same time, like the
hungry dog runs faster, Yes, but there's there's only a
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limited amount of guys that could be on the field
at one time. Going through that process and then understanding
as you came in to the Titans, you know, you
had to compete for a job there. You're you weren't
just thrown in there day one necessarily. Like talk about
when you first got your first green light as a Titan.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Yeah, I remember, you know very well. We were coming
back from our London game. Ryan had had gotten hurt.
He hurt his ankle, and Malik went in and finished
that game and we had a bye week to kind
of mull things over, and coaching staff after a few days,
you know, brought me in and just told me that
I was going to get that green light for the
following game against Atlanta, and I was pumped. I knew
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everything that I've been doing from that point on, I'd
gotten me ready for that moment.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
You know, I just went in, put my head down.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
I didn't care about when the opportunity was gonna come,
just just knew that when it did, I was gonna
be ready. And just so much credit to to Ryan
and Malik and everyone else in the room that were
able to, you know, just help me and guide me
through the process, and uh just I took things from
their preparation routines that that helped me for when it
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was my turn and you know, hit the ground run
and had a great first game and saw things clearly
ended up getting the win, tied the record for most
touchdowns and then a rookie, so yeah, and then to
finish out that year, get a couple of great wins
and you know, have that confidence going into the next year.
Obviously we didn't have the season that we wanted to,
but all the you know, tough things that happened to
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me this year, I feel like prepared me and gave
me just as much confidence going forward as then as
the positive things did.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
So very grateful for it all.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I mean, let's not just blow past that first game
where you're we're scoring tuddies like that, nobody's busy.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
How fired up were you in the locker room after that?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I was juiced?
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I was I was juiced. I the juice right there.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Now.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
My favorite memory in my entire career is is just
holding my whole family and in my arms, stepping up
into this into the crowd and just hugging them and
you know, just letting all those emotions just rush over
all of us after after a long couple of years,
and it was it was just really cool to feel
that that love and the genuine love from the people
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that I care about the most to them, carry that
into the locker room and feel the love from my
teammates and everything was was really cool.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Oh, that tight circles, I mean, it's it's it's it's
fun in all the locker room. But you, like we
mentioned when you got a family who has been around
sports and has supported you. They've gone to your games
since you were younger in other sports, and they've seen
your highest highs and your lowest lows, and they love
you just as mount no matter what happens. You know
that that hug from your dad post game I think
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is undefeated.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Like I've told people that my dad's not a super
affectionate person, uh, in the in the best way possible.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I don't mean that as a shade it my father.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
But you know, when you've been grinding and he's a
ballplayer to like, well, you've been grinding, and post game,
whether you get the dubb or you get the loss,
that little hug of like, hey, keep your chin up kids.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, you know it's just like thanks Dad, appreciate Appreciate
that one right now, that one right now.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
So with all these different situations that have happened in
your career, what do you think has helped you grow
the most?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Where's your biggest growth point so far?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I just I'd say all the hardships that I've gone through.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
I think everything that elated Yeah, everything that has knocked
me down, everything that I've gotten back up from has helped,
you know, form my mindset into what it is today
and to just allow me to held myself forwards. And
I'm in a really tough, you know position right now
with what's going on with the draft and what could happen.
And you know, I've just been spending my time out
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here just you know, laser focus, being selfish with my
work and and and how can I come back the
best person and best player that I can be for
for my team regardless of what my situation is. So
it's it's it's it's gonna be, it's gonna be tough,
it's it's it could be. You know something that is
it's really hard for anyone to deal with, regardless of
your situation or how mentally tough that you think you are.
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And you know, I'm just gonna embrace it every step
of the way and just take it one day at
a time because I know that everything I've done up
to this point has got me ready for.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
It, and I've only gotten better.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
All you could use control the controllable in those situations.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, who's a teammate in your career that's really helped
you elevate to become a pro?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
You think?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Oh, I'd say Ryan Tannehill first and foremost.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
You know the guy who it was a starter last
year for us and heck of a quarterback, one of
the best quarterbacks that organization's ever seen, and they've taken
them to heights they hadn't seen in a long time.
And just a true pros pro and a guy that
came to work every day and had his routine dialed
in and never straight from it, regardless of what his
position was with the team or situation.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
And then I'd say Harrod Landry.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
So you just the Patriots just picked him up, but
he's the same thing, just an absolute just vet in
terms of how he handled himself, how he took care
of his body, his routine just so dialed in. Seeing
him work in the off season, you know, just as
hard in February as he was in July for training camp.
Like he's he's doing everything he can to just make
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sure that he's continuing to improve as his career goes on.
So to just saw some dudes that I took my
cap at, and hopefully I can one day get to
the level of, you know, playing as long as they
have and keeping it going. Do you have a welcome
to the league moment? Ooh, welcome to the league moment?
I mean probably just that first game and getting that
win and that was just so surreal. But in turn
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of just like realizing how insane some of some of
these players are.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I remember going down to Tampa and just a hot,
muggy day, and you know, we weren't playing our best
and we're driving down on the red zone and we're
trying to put a put a ball on the in
the end zone and I'm ready to.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Throw and I just get yanked down from behind.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
I'm like, dang, some dudes must have just gotten a
real good hold of me and just pulled me to
the ground. I look up and the replays Vida Vea
reaching over our tackle and literally sacking me with like
one finger, like from behind, and like, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
A small dude. Different exactly the only dudes that you'll
see in the league.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
And it's that stuff that you never even have to
think about in college, that you know, he's just he's
just an animal and some prints when he really got
a game plan for and those those game wrecords are
on every team. And you know, everyone gets paid paid
the same across the board, uh, in terms of salar
cap and all that. So we always say, like these
guys get paid to just like you say in college,
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like these guys around scholars And yeah, you definitely have
those just freaks in nature that are a little couple
echelons above everybody else that you gotta worry about.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, when did the and I know we brought up
the Mayo thing over time, but like when did the
contract of because you're you're signed with Helman's right now,
I guess getting that first email DM phone call, were
you like, who the hell what femail body inspector?
Speaker 4 (22:27):
But then on second glass, no, I mean it was
a credit, all credit to my agent for for getting
that set up, and I think it was. It was
a tough part of my process with having to deal
with and like how I wanted to to frame that
whole situation because it started really as just a silly joke.
You know, I was pretty active on social media and
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another thing I mentioned like pre and il and il
became a thing. You know, we weren't getting handed a
million dollars. It was more so just like, hey, now
you guys can make money, go get it. And my
easiest avenue for that that I thought was social media
and how I could make money on TikTok, Instagram, whateverage.
It was with promoting brands and creating content to allow
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companies to be willing and excited to work with me.
So if you guys want to check out my TikTok,
got some funny stuff there back in the day. I
haven't been as active as recently, but one small funny
video of me just putting mannaising my coffee as a joke,
taking a sit, putting it back down blew back up
like a year later. During the draft process, people call
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me crazy and weird for putting mayo in my coffee
every morning, which is and and Hellman's reached out and
they're like, this is hilarious, this is amazing. If you
really do you know, love Mayo and see this as
a partnership, that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
We'd love to work with you. And so that started
off as a one year deal.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
We did some awesome campaigns, got extended and it's been
a heck of a time like working with them and
doing a couple of campaigns that we've done, just just
having a lot of fun with it and leaning into it.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
And it's it's definitely whether I like it or not.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
I mean, I love it at this point, but it's
it's a part of my brand and who I am,
So it's sick.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I think it's awesome. I mean, listen, everyone's got a
brand of some sort. Some people there's a big spectrum.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Mayonnais did you can't go wrong with Mayo.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
We talked about it on the course today. Man, you
can't go wrong with Mayo.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
You got the coffee. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I wouldn't recommend it.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
I would say it's not terrible, but craziest three things
you've put Mayo on? You think that's probably the only
thing off note. I'd say it's crazy. Yeah, coffee. Yeah,
have you gone to a coffee shop.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
And ordered it?
Speaker 4 (24:41):
No, but I've gone to coffee shop and they've like
asked and joked about it, and I'm like, yeah, no,
I'll just take my almond milk. But no, I mean,
I can't think of anything too crazy. I've put Mayo on,
but it's pretty well.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
They do a hell of a job on their marketing team.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Yes, you look like here.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Like I watched when I saw the the cologne so good,
I thought it was a Zoolander three movies.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
That's exactly what we're going for.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
I hit the Blue Steel, We hit the Blue Steel Magma.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I was like, man, I I actually before this pot
last night, I was trying to see if I could
amazon it overnight fast enuff for this, but I wanted
to smell it.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Because people bought it.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
It's good. It's it's like I do. It's in my rotation.
Yeah no, like yeah, oh yeah, no, it's it definitely
it Like when they told me about it, I was like,
is this like real? Are we making an actual face.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Saying like, hey, will we want to do a campaign?
We're going to do a push here.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
I thought it might have just been like a fake
like Colone commercial. But no, they they went all out
like I I got to taste it or taste it,
smell it and test it and gave him the okay,
I said, this is great. And they did a limit
limited drop and it sold out and like that and
did another one. But yeah, it's it's tough to get
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your hands on. I don't know if Amazon. Yeah, that's
like five x markup. So that's you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
So wait, was there was there like a come smell
this like testing career. We had to decide between a few.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Then they just mailed me a couple of samples and I,
you know, just decided which one I like the best.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
So yeah, I mean, dude, you got your own cologne. Man.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah, like Ralph Lauren, Yeah, call me Ralph, call me Ralph.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
What else did oh? Mac Hereford told me a couple
of things today.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Oh what did he tell you?
Speaker 2 (26:36):
He said? The bananas.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Yeah, that was another little kind of funny video. I
saw something like got like a million likes of someone
just someone like taking a bite out of like the
brown spot of the banana, Like everyone.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Looks inside of the band.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
People like like love talking about how gross the brown
spot of the bananas, but like it's just banana, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
And so I look over and there's some.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Right bananas that they're gonna make for banana bread, and
I just grabbed one and record myself just house in it.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Peel and all. Yeah, peel and all. And yeah. So
that that that stirred some emotions as well.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I mean I could, I could gut anything.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
I feel like, yeah, we used to do that with
like lemon wedges. My dad said it was an Italian
tradition where you get the whole lemon wedge, eat the
whole thing, and people think I'm psycho. Then you know,
I did it in front of my wife like earlyer.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
All we were daying.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
She did it too, and I was like, but it's
a I mean, obviously that's not a regular thing for you.
I told you the mintschip, ice cream and peanut butter thing. Man,
I'm telling you, next time you go a little basket
Robins or cold Stone, get the mint, you throw a
little peanut butter in it.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
That sounds incredible. It's the texture, sound, the ratio.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
It's like I'm a big too, Like.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Wow, Like what's a good example, Like I love a
night Okay, it's cold outside.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I love a nice grilled cheese with tomato soup.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
There's just certain weathers and textures that they correspond well
on a graph.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I feel like, yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Was, I'm gonna take a shot at my buddy Alex Bachman, who.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
You just had on.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
We went out to uh oh yeah, to watch like
the sweet sixteen games at like this brewery, like great sandwiches,
burgers and all that. This dude gets a grilled cheese really, like,
come on, dude, Like it's you're in Cali. It's like
seventy degrees out. You get grilled cheese and tomato suit, Like,
come on, you can't be ordering that at.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
It' that's a that's a home cooked meal that you make.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Dansver, Colorado. Tuesday night. It just snowed four inches.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Yes, that's what that is. Wild order, I mean the
fact that I can even remember what happened, Like.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, no, you took note, Yes, took notes of this.
This guy for real, right, this guy for real right now.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Titans got top three jerseys across the board in the league.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Has to be I just.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
I mean, I love the throwbacks. It's a shame we're
not wearing the this year. I just saw that we're not.
They actually just changed the rule like two days after
we made the announcement that you're allowed to wear.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Them up to four games.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
So throw oilers.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Yes, yeah, like the I mean, dude, what what other
color than baby blue?
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Is the easier?
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Like your whole life, like you love you love the
u NC blue, like you want to play for them,
just for the colors alone. And I waited my whole
life to be able to be able to wear that
shade of blue.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
And I'm glad that I that I have been able to.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
And yeah, we're going for now our home uniforms instead
of the Navy is like the Titan blue color, which
is which is cool. So looking forward to rocking that.
And uh, we definitely got some good alternates too. I
feel like we should, we could mix it up a
little more, but I like our all whites and.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Our home uniforms will be will be sweet this year too.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Why is there such a debate between the Titans and
the Texans on who gets to.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Rock the oilers? Well, so what's the right what's the
right answer.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
It's the Titans we own, I mean we own, or
the former Oilers franchise, Like, but Adams moved from Houston
to Tennessee. They played in Memphis actually first that he
didn't know before Nashville in like ninety seven ninety eight,
I think, And I think the story goes like he
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wanted to stay in Houston and they wouldn't build a
new stadium for him, so he's like, all right, I'm
picking up and moving to Tennessee. And then two years
later they announced the expansion team, the Houston Texans. They
build a a new stadium, and so that's kind of
how the the rivalry started. So you could say like
that there are definitely some Houston fans that stayed in
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Houston and we're just going to cheer for whatever the
Houston team was. But I feel like if you're a
true fan and you're there from the jump and you're
following the team and the ownership and everything from top down, yeah,
and then there's probably a decent amount of Houston fans
that then started rooting for the Texans down there, I
mean in Tennessee. So I'd say it definitely sticks with
the Titans and just the ownership that we were once
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actually Houston Oilers.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I mean, it's it's always a debate.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Like I feel like whenever you guys wear the throwbacks
everyone it's always chirping on socials and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Know why, I just I just got a little burst
of that equal you had today.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
M check the YouTube out. But uh, what's your biggest
strength in golf?
Speaker 4 (31:23):
It used to be probably my worst Like I used
to be. I went, I switched like it used to
be pretty automatic off the tee and it's been tough
figuring out to drive for me as of the last
few weeks at least, But I could not hit a
wedge for my life, Like I could not hit anything
from like fifty to like one twenty. I just had
to pray that I could scull it and skid it
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up there. But I've I've finally figured out how to
like you know, get my wedges up in the air
and just yeah, I had some decent approach shots today,
the couple that weren't all that great, But I feel
feel confident from that like one ten in now, whereas
before I would have much rather been at like one.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Point thirty to hit my pitching wedge. You know, who
do you think.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Okay, this is a good this is this is this
is a loaded question.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Well, position group produces the best golfers outside of quarterback
or specialists.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yeahst the I'm not going to give you that credit.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Yeah, I mean I would say specialists. I think that
across the board you see a lot of like punters
and kickers who are pretty good and definitely because they
get some more practice time.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
But other than.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Quarterbacks, I don't know, dude, in my in my experience,
maybe just because I've played with more of them, but
there are some decent o line golfers out there. The
big boys can they can smack it and then they
got some touch to them too, like they're they're they're
used to with that. Yeah, but you know there are
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some of maybe the dozen golfers on our team, I'd
say like five or six of them were old linemen.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
So okay, if there was a thirty two team tournament
with they had to send the best foursome from each
team who would win that tournament in the league, do
the Titans have a shot?
Speaker 4 (33:20):
I was just down in Cancun for the NFLPA Classic
and there was seventy two of US players down there
playing in a four man scramble format and I'm trying
to think of, like who the best golfers were, like
feeling Harrison, Smith Case Keenan were on the same team.
But JJ was on that team too, and I guess
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he played really well. So maybe I'd go with Minnesota.
Maybe I'd go with Minnesota just with the Harrison and
JJ like being on that. They didn't end up winning,
but I bet they got some other good golfers over
there too.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Well, that's like the typical you're as strong as your
weakest link.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I like mcause there's probably a couple of teams out
there with one lights out dude. Yeah, but it's like,
do you have a good three four See I'm a
third guy, three four guy out of scramble.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Where if I look around and I'm like, if I'm
the worst player in our scramble, I'm feeling pretty.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Good about things. Not lights out. But you saw it.
I told you two to five, two out of five
to three out of five.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I'm gonna do my job, do my one eleventh, big
team orientated person.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I'll put first, Frankie, go for it, whatever you need.
I'm down. But I think whoever's the weakest link is definitely.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
I'd say also maybe like the cart like Arizona. I mean,
they got no excuse other than to be able to
play all year over there. You know, so some good
golf over there.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
I guess like the Bills have a shot because I
feel like they're tight ends golf lot, Josh Golf's I'm
sure they got one, dude.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Now, if you had to make it two on offense,
two on defense, that might spice this up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
That might spice things up a lot actually. And then
the Masters are coming up this week. Who you got
win in it? I'm going Scottie.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
I mean, I know it's the favorite, but you know
you can't bet against Scottie. You know, he's the golfer
of our generation or I guess Tiger that I guess
you could count that my generation. But like, he's you
know who we have right now, and it's it's it's
it's only right for us to route for him into
and to chase Tiger in that way. But yeah, it's
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gonna be an awesome week, dude. I went the last
couple of years. Like I said, I was grateful to
go with my dad last year and the coolest experience
I've ever had with him and one of the top
experiences in my life too.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Okay, let's say you win the Masters, you personally, what
is your dinner for the following year?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
An an app?
Speaker 1 (35:43):
A first course which is like a solid soup, things
that nature, A main Okay.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Dessert app.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
I know it's not a traditional app, but I'm gonna
go pizza, and I'm gonna go New Haven style pizza
where I'm from the best pizza in the world, So
definitely gonna have a cheese pizza.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Can't go wrong with the cheese. The mussarell and uh
what they're known for.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
They actually got voted multiple times the best pizza in
the country.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
It's for their white clam pizza.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
So it's a white pizza, you know, with like basil, oregano,
garlic and.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Baked clam on top.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
And I don't love clam, so I'll usually do shrimp
instead of the clam. Throw some bacon on there, and
then you get a little fresh mozzarel on there. Oh
so good, and then probably like my favorite pizza top
in combo other than that would be sausage and cherry pepper,
So like.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
A cheese pizza.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Pretty specifically, yes.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
It's my favorite kind of pepper on a pizza for sure,
a little bit sweet, little bit of spicy pizza.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Spread for the app soup, soup salad.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
I'm gonna go in New England, clam chowder bread bowl
og love that. Yeah, also kind of them to my
roots there, you know, going to my my grandparents spot
in Cape Cod like digging for clams and making homemade
clam chowder. We're lucky, lucky enough to get a bread
bull from the bakery down the street or something that's
just a delicacy.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
And then from Maine, Maine, I'd probably go. I gotta
go steak.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
I gotta go just a you know, a nice medium,
rare rabbi, you know, you know, gotta get some good
sides in there, maybe like a lobster mac and cheese
maybe and a nice loaded baked potato or like mashed potato, something.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Along those lines.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
And then dessert, I'm gonna keep it simple. I think
that the best way to do dessert is a warm
baked good with some with some vanilla ice cream, so
probably like some sort of lava cake with Yeah, we
talked about the slutty brownies my sister makes. She's she's
been living at the house. She's an amazing baker. You
got the brownie with the chocolate cookie and then an
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oreo on top, So I might go with that. Man,
I'll go with my sisters slutty brownies. That that is
different with a scoop of vanilla ice cream, nothing better.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Do you think you could win the Masters if you
started on the greens? I know, let me get, let
me get.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
We could use some math here. I don't have a
written down. I did this like last week.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I think the course record is like a sixty two
at Augusta, Yeah, or.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Maybe it's a sixty three. So you'd have to shoot
a sixty two. You would average a little under.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Like if you did a three shot a three put
every hole, you'd win lights out.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
I think it'd be like three. You have to average
like three point four.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Are you starting on like the furthest away possible.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Forest way possible for the pin?
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
So if you're if it's pin high, you're starting total
other side. You can't you three to four put your
way to a green jacket.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
What if you end up in a bunker, do you
have to hit the hit the putter out of the bunker? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Say you do such a crappy put.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
On Augustus Greens that could very well happen.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
I'm gonna, dude, I don't think so. No, I don't
want to put myself through that. Like that's maybe if
you get me like a few days to like play
the greens and try to figure it out. But yeah,
I don't know. Maybe a Caddy would be able to
help me. But yeah, I'm gonna say no, dude.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
I was.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
I caught myself watching a crazy video on Augustus Greens
the other day and just like how minuscule the actual
like landing spots are before the ball is able to
just roll off and crazy be impossible. So yeah, I'm
I'm gonna keep it to the professionals on that one.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
They're so good.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
It's funny how the growing up and I know we're
both relatively new to golf. Like, growing up, I would
skip the golf channel constantly.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Oh yeah, now a.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Nice little Saturday morning like this time of year, turn
that puppy on.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah, the voices of Golf two are just so lights out.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
You know, I can't so I'm leaving. Saturday night, I
was deciding my sister's visitings. She's taking the red Eye
out Saturday night, and I was like, you know what,
the red red Eye out Saturday, get in Nashville Sunday morning,
maybe a quick hour or two nap, wake up at
eight o'clock whatever, just in time for jim Nantz to
just lull me into Masters Sunday. It just sounds like
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a great end of the weekend there.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Iconic with it. Yeah, iconic with it. Uh. I mean, well, dude,
this has been great. Man.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
I don't got much more to say, but like I
just I want to tip my hat to you because
it's no secret like you've had to face adversity from
a personal level, but like when you're at your level
of professionalism where this camera's on you, you've handled it
like a champ.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
And I think you know, bring the juice.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Audience is full of former athletes, current athletes, the young
and come next generation soccer moms, and like, it's appreciated
that you talk in such high regard to yourself and
the mindset.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
What you attack rate is when adversity strikes. Because you know,
we're playing sports.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
But you might be a baker going through a tough time.
You might be a mechanic. You might be a stay
at home mom, might be an onion farmer. You don't
know what's happening. But no matter what you do in life,
in some way, shape or form, adversity is gone to
strike and it's how you respond. And I you know again,
I tim my hat for the way you handle yourself
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and go about yourself as a professional.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
And thank you, dog, I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I want to I think we got to break sixty
six next time. Yeah, I'm gonna get you out to
president for one of the golf tournaments this year.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
I swear to God, will uh nothing not going through Dallas.
We're not going through.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Oh gosh, don't bring me back to that story. Jeez.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
But Na, man I it like I said, it's appreciative
of your time. And I hope you find tune of
the golf skills and tune up the quarterback skills.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Is even harder because I know you're working at it.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
But thank you, appreciate you, appreciate the hospitality, You good
anything else?
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Yeah, no, I'm good. Thank you so much for having
me on.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
And you know, always always good talking to you and
talking life, talking ball, talking everything.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
So glad I could finally, get on the.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Pod, get you out to the uniform, stay fired up.
Follow will. Buy some mayonnaise, okay, buy some mayo.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Throwing it into coffee and feeling crazy. Put some peanut
butter on some mid chip ice cream.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Buy some hat subscribe on subscribe, resubscribe, buy some merch,
Go Titans, and see you next week.
All right, all right, all right out here with my
guy Will Levis, we just.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Completed our golf challenge. I don't know about you, but
I was fired.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
I was too.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
It was not looking too hot after the first few holes,
and we pulled it together.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
We made it work.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
But it was not pretty.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
If you haven't watched it yet, for sure watching it
because it is, uh.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
It's gritty.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Like I we were driving home and these guys were saying, like,
hey man, after a third hole.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I did not think that was gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Well, I was like, we might have to like change
the video after nine holes and just start a new one.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Redo a different topic of some sort or something like that. No,
it's it's it's part of the deal.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I mean obviously, Like you know, you've been a lot
of situations in your life. One thing that I kind
of liked that we were dabbling in on on on
the golf course though today was like you you mentioned
like your recruiting journey.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yes, and everyone's got a different journey.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
That's kind of the cool thing between both, like the
journey and the draft, Like nothing goes as it seems
for anybody, but like out of high school, being from
kenety kid, What was the path to basically landing starting
off at Penn State.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, yeah, I'll start in high school.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Really, you just the recruiting landscape in general in the
Northeast is very slim. You know, we're lucky to get
a handful of guys out to power power five schools
every year. And so I knew it was gonna be hard,
but I mean I was up for the challenge. I
knew I had what it took from a just ability standpoint,
work ethic standpoint, I had the grades to go wherever.
(01:27):
I you know, pleased and started going that academic route
at first, picked up some offers going into my junior year,
kind of checked off all the IVY league boxes.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
And I knew that I wanted to play football.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Professionally, and you know, that wasn't necessarily the the avenue
that was gonna make it easiest for me. So I
wanted to play big time ball. So I was looking
to try to get some bigger offers going into my
senior year.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
No one was biting. No one was biting.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I was so convinced, you know that like it won
one hit, then the rest would follow. And I think
other schools kind of felt that too, and they didn't
want to like give me that because then other schools
would would fall into place. But I was I was
just going from camps to camp to camp, you know,
lucky enough for my parents to be able to to
bring me around the country and and and check out
different schools and get in front of these coaches and show.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Them what I got.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
And I got to thank you know, Ken o'keeff who
was the quarterback coach at Iowa at the time. He
was a Connecticut guy, went to Notre Dame West Haven
our our arrival and had he had us out of
their camp. Uh called me the next day, offered me
a scholarship, and I remember jumping up and down celebrate
with my parents.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
And sure enough after that, you.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Know, other ones started coming old Miss Florida State UNC
And yeah, I felt really good about Iowa. Honestly, I
would have ended up there if it wasn't for you know,
Penn State. They had they had a spot open up.
Justin Fields had decommitted and end up going to Georgia,
so they had a spot went for their camp. They
offered me and committed the next day and had to
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make that phone called the coach parents, and that was tough,
but you know, you understood.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
But I felt like I did it right.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
I did the process right, did the decision part of
it right with you know, letting those other schools know
before I had committed and you know, ended off my
collegiate career starting at Penn State.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I mean, that's I like how you say that too,
because and you know, social media is a hell of
a thing these days, but like you look at some
of the youth and they don't have that same integrity, respect,
high character. Where they're they're bouncing around, they don't really
care about what a coach's feelings are. Necessarily they don't
care about I feel like a relationship pre anil era
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went a much longer ways than it is now. Now
it's it's a bidding war al most but for you
to be able to tell, you know, the coaches that
you weren't going to be able to go to like hey, thanks,
but no thanks. And also, as you know, to the
football world, it's it's a very small space where you
never know who might beware at what point, and you
want to keep those dynamics in those relationships. Well, you
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had your time at Penn State, ultimately like what it
led to the change to make make the move to Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I was just just football.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I mean, I knew that i'd have to get you know,
looking historically at quarterbacks that I had gotten drafted, they'd
been multiple year starters in college before they'd taken that
step and shown that they were ready. And I was
in a position where, you know, competed for the job.
My retort freshman year got beat out. Sean Clifford was
in front of me. He was only one year above me,
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and you know, if if he had stayed there his
entire career, then I knew I had I'd have to
wait for that last year to really start, right, And
so after that year kind of had the vision that
after that next year, as long as I had my
credits in line, I would be immediately eligible to play
at another school. So started loading up on credits, taking
dang near twenty five credits a semester. Wow, this was
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right before the transfer portal was a thing, so you
had to be a graduate to be able to play.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
So that's why I was.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I finished my degree in three years and started off
that spring semester, told him I was entering the transfer portal,
finished out my classes and then had the opportunity to
go to Kentucky and ended up going there. So it
was purely like a football situational decision. It was tough
to leave Penn State. I love it with all my heart,
send my kids there in a heartbeat, like great school,
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and enjoyed my time there.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Just shame that just football didn't work out well.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I mean it's basically the game things happened. But obviously
you know, the jump worked. It was a good move,
and I know that at your time at penns State,
from a statistical standpoint, you were waiting for that boom game.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
And then Kentucky started early.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
It felt like yeah, yeah, I mean I remember that
first started Kentucky like it was yesterday. My first pass
attemp as a Kentucky Wildcat went off my receiver's hands
and got intercepted, and I was like, ah, this is
not how we wanted to start. It was only up
from there. I think I threw four that first game,
and then we had a really good year that year,
only the believe the third ten win season in school history.
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It's going on to win the Citrus Bowl. So this
is just really really cool moment in year for me
after you know, three years of pretty much just waiting
on the sideline.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Right, I mean college quarterbacks, there's so many electrical ones
out there.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Who's your top five all time?
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Top five college quarterbacks of all time, that's a good question.
I'm gonna go Cam Newton, Tim Tebow, Johnny Manziel, Joe Burrow, and.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Dude, I might put Marcus Mariota up there.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
That's a strong list. Yeah, that's a strong list I've heard.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I've asked some questions like that floater in the past
about like top five wideouts in the league and things
like that. That's that's hard to argue with. I don't
even know who do you throw it there?
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Vincent I was gonna say he was even a little
too old for me.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Like, I feel like I could watch all of those
guys like growing up and like consciously know like what
was going on with the landscape of college football. So
I'm definitely forgetting guys from like, you know, the eighties, nineties,
early two thousands that I wasn't really able to watch.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
But yeah, Vince Young for sure is up there.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Well, guys even I mean, and like it's funny to
see where all these guys come out of and obviously
there's powerhouses in Cali and in Texas and in Florida,
but coming from a place like Connecticut, Like, what would
you say, are the top five states that produced players?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Ooh, Texas, Florida, Uh, I'm going sleeper, Pennsylvania, most Hall
of Famers, guys famers from any state. Yeah, I'll go Cali,
just from up pure, just throughout.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Here for sure, a couple of golfers.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, oh yeah, and then hm hm.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Georgia probably Georgia. Yeah, Georgia, Florida, Texas, Pennsylvania, Cali.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
That's strong.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
What am I missing?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
You don't miss see anything.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Jake, who was the guy who said, he said, like
Vermont or New Hampshire or something like that. We were
interviewing a guy from a certain state, and he I
forget what it was exactly. Yeah it was perk. Yeah,
it was perk.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
You could find at one guy in an NFL roster
born and raised in Vermont.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
I'd be, I'd be.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
It wasn't Vermont. It was a it was a weird
state though.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I want to say, And then you've got states like
you look in I think there's only a few guys
from Montana or Wyoming, and I don't even know there's
been an Alaskan yet or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Yeah, I know, I mean I feel like the New England.
I keep it keep tabs for who's in the league
from New England. For the most part, I don't know Vermont.
If I'm wrong, let me know. Yeah, but I know
we got some Bishop Pendrick and players in the league
right now from Providence.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
So that's where island.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
You mentioned we were talking side gigs a little bit.
You mentioned the move from Penn State to Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
You had to pay rents two places. Yeah, and you
were you were driving uber and door dash. Yeah, we
were the man of the people.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, this was pre nil.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
I mean I kind of got a little bit towards
the tail end, but didn't get the full taste. But
this was pre and paying two rents at a time,
couldn't get a sublet for for my Penn State apartment,
and getting to Kentucky, you know, broke as a joke.
No way to pay for these bills other than getting
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in the car every night spending a few hours just
door dashing. Uber In ended up shifting from Ubering to
just door dash you breats. You know, you can throw
on your own tunes, you on podcast whatever it say, like,
you know a bit more tips. I hung out right
on Nicholasville Road in Lexington. If anyone's familiar with every
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single chain restaurant that you can imagine, I just hang
out there in a lot, wait for a out back
steakhouse or a red lobster order, and cash in big time.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
So that's how I got by.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, that's crazy. What's you think? What do you think
is that most expensive door dash order you copped at
one point?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Probably like how much I made?
Speaker 4 (10:01):
I probably made like fifty bucks, like on one trip,
like a big like steak dinner order for a family
or something from out back like a tab that runs
you like two fifty or something, and then they throw
a nice generous tip on top, so you could you
could end those nights, you know, with a good like three,
four or five bucks in your pocket.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
It's not a bad at all. Yeah, it's not about
at all.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Your time at Kentucky eventually came to an end and
it was time to get ready for the draft. How
was that flip in your mindset going into that season
where your expectations I'm for sure declaring at the end
of this, was there any other scenarios you had?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
How did it progress leading up to the moment.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Yeah, I'd considered, honestly declaring after my junior year. I
didn't I didn't really know. I didn't think like based
on at least my stats or whatever. And it was
only my first year starting if it would have been
something that was realistic. But kind of had to make
a decision there at one point, and yeah, I was.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I was.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I was pumped to come back and play another year
and finish it right.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
And we didn't have the best you.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Know last year that I would have would have loved
to have, but you know, battled through it still showed
what I needed to to put myself in the spot
to get picked pretty high right. Started off the pre
draft process, you know, hearing really good things, hearing you know,
going as high as the top five pick, and riding
out that pretty much up until draft night and thinking
that was a possibility. And then had a you know,
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awesome time training out here, awesome time preparing felt like
I had, you know, hit all the nails on the
head and what I needed to do to get ready,
and you know, my tumultuous NFL career started on that
draft night where you know, I had that camera stuck
in my face, you know, ten times more than anybody else,
and just saw the picks keep rolling in and no
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phone calls. And yeah, once I got past like that
twelfth thirteenth pick, I knew that I was in for
a long night. So heard some chatter towards the end
of the first round that someone could be trading up
for me. Actually received a phone call at like the
thirtieth pick, and it was just a prank call and
I had to hang up. Yeah, at that point, I
was pretty much over it. The next pick was a
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baud to be in. I was like, all right, let's go, guys.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
And was it?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
How did he even?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I mean, I don't know first round draft pick phone
call numbers, but like, was it a buddy?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Was it someone who leads you?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I don't know. I still got their number, but no,
I don't care. I mean we had.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Based on what I was told, you know, I was
pretty confident that I would be going in that first round,
and we were planning on heading back that next morning,
and you know, got some of the media for not
staying that next day. But you know, we already had
flights and we already had plans to go back. And
I feel like the the light I was putting in
that moment was a little unfair, and I feel like
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that's that themes kind of continued throughout my career. But
you know, I was blessed to be able to get
picked at all and to get that phone call the
second I got through the doors in connecticuted my house
from from the Titans to get drafted. There, we were
pumped and nothing else mattered once Once that happened, it
was time to get to work.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Same as college man, just walk on as there's five stars.
As soon as you're in the building, it's time to work. Yeah,
as a quarterback too, you know, you're putting underneath a
different type of microscope. And as you as you just mentioned,
like there's a little bit more cameras in the face,
you get a little more followers off of it.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
They love you when you're up, they hate you and
you're down. It's part of that comes with the job.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
When adversity is struck in those situations or in your
life in general, Like if you have a backbone of
things that you.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Kind of always fall back towards rely on things.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
I definitely have my small, you know, tight group of
people maybe just like three four that I rely on
for advice and to to help bring me up. But
I've you know, I've seen everything at this point, I
feel like, and I keep saying that, but something new
keeps coming up. But I feel like that at this
point in my life and my career, there's never been
any smooth sailing, and I've always had some sort of
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bumps in the roads that I've had to pull myself
out of and you know, brush the dirt off and
keep going. So I just like to think back to
the moments that I've been previously that are like to
to what I could be facing in that moment, and
if I could have gotten myself out before, then I
know that I can do it again. So I've just
got that resilient mindset, and you know, it's just my favorite,
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you know saying in the world, my mantra has never
give up, and you know, I share as hell will
never do that and right, and that's that's what kind
of just brings me.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Up and makes me power through.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Sports are always going to be evolving. They are a business.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
There's when you're you know, you just get to Penn
State and you're you're you're fired up, You're the new
kid on the block. Right season goes by, Spring comes around,
not even spring, fall camps around, and you're hosting recruits
for a guy who like they want you to get
to come here and they're comeing to compete with you
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the next time. And it's like it doesn't quite make
sense even as you know, being in a receiver room,
it's like, my best friends are the guys who I
competed with for playing time in in in our careers,
and you're with them, and unless you've been in the
locker room and you've part of like we mentioned fall
camps earlier and stuff like, it's kind of a weird,
really unique dynamic. Like they're they're not your enemies by
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any means at all. They're they're guys you're with ten
hours a day. You're trying to I say, iron sharpens
iron all the time. You're trying to learn from them.
They're trying to learn from you, Hey, how can we
accomplish this job to the highest standard as possible, you know,
throughout this process. But at the same time, like the
hungry dog runs faster, Yes, but there's there's only a
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limited amount of guys that could be on the field
at one time. Going through that process and then understanding
as you came in to the Titans, you know, you
had to compete for a job there. You're you weren't
just thrown in there day one necessarily. Like talk about
when you first got your first green light as a Titan.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Yeah, I remember, you know very well. We were coming
back from our London game. Ryan had had gotten hurt.
He hurt his ankle, and Malik went in and finished
that game and we had a bye week to kind
of mull things over, and coaching staff after a few days,
you know, brought me in and just told me that
I was going to get that green light for the
following game against Atlanta, and I was pumped. I knew
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everything that I've been doing from that point on, I'd
gotten me ready for that moment.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
You know, I just went in, put my head down.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
I didn't care about when the opportunity was gonna come,
just just knew that when it did, I was gonna
be ready. And just so much credit to to Ryan
and Malik and everyone else in the room that were
able to, you know, just help me and guide me
through the process, and uh just I took things from
their preparation routines that that helped me for when it
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was my turn and you know, hit the ground run
and had a great first game and saw things clearly
ended up getting the win, tied the record for most
touchdowns and then a rookie, so yeah, and then to
finish out that year, get a couple of great wins
and you know, have that confidence going into the next year.
Obviously we didn't have the season that we wanted to,
but all the you know, tough things that happened to
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me this year, I feel like prepared me and gave
me just as much confidence going forward as then as
the positive things did.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
So very grateful for it all.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I mean, let's not just blow past that first game
where you're we're scoring tuddies like that, nobody's busy.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
How fired up were you in the locker room after that?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I was juiced?
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I was I was juiced. I the juice right there.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Now.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
My favorite memory in my entire career is is just
holding my whole family and in my arms, stepping up
into this into the crowd and just hugging them and
you know, just letting all those emotions just rush over
all of us after after a long couple of years,
and it was it was just really cool to feel
that that love and the genuine love from the people
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that I care about the most to them, carry that
into the locker room and feel the love from my
teammates and everything was was really cool.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Oh, that tight circles, I mean, it's it's it's it's
fun in all the locker room. But you, like we
mentioned when you got a family who has been around
sports and has supported you. They've gone to your games
since you were younger in other sports, and they've seen
your highest highs and your lowest lows, and they love
you just as mount no matter what happens. You know
that that hug from your dad post game I think
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is undefeated.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Like I've told people that my dad's not a super
affectionate person, uh, in the in the best way possible.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I don't mean that as a shade it my father.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
But you know, when you've been grinding and he's a
ballplayer to like, well, you've been grinding, and post game,
whether you get the dubb or you get the loss,
that little hug of like, hey, keep your chin up kids.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, you know it's just like thanks Dad, appreciate Appreciate
that one right now, that one right now.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
So with all these different situations that have happened in
your career, what do you think has helped you grow
the most?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Where's your biggest growth point so far?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I just I'd say all the hardships that I've gone through.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
I think everything that elated Yeah, everything that has knocked
me down, everything that I've gotten back up from has helped,
you know, form my mindset into what it is today
and to just allow me to held myself forwards. And
I'm in a really tough, you know position right now
with what's going on with the draft and what could happen.
And you know, I've just been spending my time out
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here just you know, laser focus, being selfish with my
work and and and how can I come back the
best person and best player that I can be for
for my team regardless of what my situation is. So
it's it's it's it's gonna be, it's gonna be tough,
it's it's it could be. You know something that is
it's really hard for anyone to deal with, regardless of
your situation or how mentally tough that you think you are.
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And you know, I'm just gonna embrace it every step
of the way and just take it one day at
a time because I know that everything I've done up
to this point has got me ready for.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
It, and I've only gotten better.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
All you could use control the controllable in those situations.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, who's a teammate in your career that's really helped
you elevate to become a pro?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
You think?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Oh, I'd say Ryan Tannehill first and foremost.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
You know the guy who it was a starter last
year for us and heck of a quarterback, one of
the best quarterbacks that organization's ever seen, and they've taken
them to heights they hadn't seen in a long time.
And just a true pros pro and a guy that
came to work every day and had his routine dialed
in and never straight from it, regardless of what his
position was with the team or situation.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
And then I'd say Harrod Landry.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
So you just the Patriots just picked him up, but
he's the same thing, just an absolute just vet in
terms of how he handled himself, how he took care
of his body, his routine just so dialed in. Seeing
him work in the off season, you know, just as
hard in February as he was in July for training camp.
Like he's he's doing everything he can to just make
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sure that he's continuing to improve as his career goes on.
So to just saw some dudes that I took my
cap at, and hopefully I can one day get to
the level of, you know, playing as long as they
have and keeping it going. Do you have a welcome
to the league moment? Ooh, welcome to the league moment?
I mean probably just that first game and getting that
win and that was just so surreal. But in turn
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of just like realizing how insane some of some of
these players are.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I remember going down to Tampa and just a hot,
muggy day, and you know, we weren't playing our best
and we're driving down on the red zone and we're
trying to put a put a ball on the in
the end zone and I'm ready to.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Throw and I just get yanked down from behind.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
I'm like, dang, some dudes must have just gotten a
real good hold of me and just pulled me to
the ground. I look up and the replays Vida Vea
reaching over our tackle and literally sacking me with like
one finger, like from behind, and like, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
A small dude. Different exactly the only dudes that you'll
see in the league.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
And it's that stuff that you never even have to
think about in college, that you know, he's just he's
just an animal and some prints when he really got
a game plan for and those those game wrecords are
on every team. And you know, everyone gets paid paid
the same across the board, uh, in terms of salar
cap and all that. So we always say, like these
guys get paid to just like you say in college,
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like these guys around scholars And yeah, you definitely have
those just freaks in nature that are a little couple
echelons above everybody else that you gotta worry about.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, when did the and I know we brought up
the Mayo thing over time, but like when did the
contract of because you're you're signed with Helman's right now,
I guess getting that first email DM phone call, were
you like, who the hell what femail body inspector?
Speaker 4 (22:27):
But then on second glass, no, I mean it was
a credit, all credit to my agent for for getting
that set up, and I think it was. It was
a tough part of my process with having to deal
with and like how I wanted to to frame that
whole situation because it started really as just a silly joke.
You know, I was pretty active on social media and
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another thing I mentioned like pre and il and il
became a thing. You know, we weren't getting handed a
million dollars. It was more so just like, hey, now
you guys can make money, go get it. And my
easiest avenue for that that I thought was social media
and how I could make money on TikTok, Instagram, whateverage.
It was with promoting brands and creating content to allow
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companies to be willing and excited to work with me.
So if you guys want to check out my TikTok,
got some funny stuff there back in the day. I
haven't been as active as recently, but one small funny
video of me just putting mannaising my coffee as a joke,
taking a sit, putting it back down blew back up
like a year later. During the draft process, people call
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me crazy and weird for putting mayo in my coffee
every morning, which is and and Hellman's reached out and
they're like, this is hilarious, this is amazing. If you
really do you know, love Mayo and see this as
a partnership, that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
We'd love to work with you. And so that started
off as a one year deal.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
We did some awesome campaigns, got extended and it's been
a heck of a time like working with them and
doing a couple of campaigns that we've done, just just
having a lot of fun with it and leaning into it.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
And it's it's definitely whether I like it or not.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
I mean, I love it at this point, but it's
it's a part of my brand and who I am,
So it's sick.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I think it's awesome. I mean, listen, everyone's got a
brand of some sort. Some people there's a big spectrum.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Mayonnais did you can't go wrong with Mayo.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
We talked about it on the course today. Man, you
can't go wrong with Mayo.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
You got the coffee. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I wouldn't recommend it.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
I would say it's not terrible, but craziest three things
you've put Mayo on? You think that's probably the only
thing off note. I'd say it's crazy. Yeah, coffee. Yeah,
have you gone to a coffee shop.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
And ordered it?
Speaker 4 (24:41):
No, but I've gone to coffee shop and they've like
asked and joked about it, and I'm like, yeah, no,
I'll just take my almond milk. But no, I mean,
I can't think of anything too crazy. I've put Mayo on,
but it's pretty well.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
They do a hell of a job on their marketing team.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Yes, you look like here.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Like I watched when I saw the the cologne so good,
I thought it was a Zoolander three movies.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
That's exactly what we're going for.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
I hit the Blue Steel, We hit the Blue Steel Magma.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I was like, man, I I actually before this pot
last night, I was trying to see if I could
amazon it overnight fast enuff for this, but I wanted
to smell it.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Because people bought it.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
It's good. It's it's like I do. It's in my rotation.
Yeah no, like yeah, oh yeah, no, it's it definitely
it Like when they told me about it, I was like,
is this like real? Are we making an actual face.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Saying like, hey, will we want to do a campaign?
We're going to do a push here.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
I thought it might have just been like a fake
like Colone commercial. But no, they they went all out
like I I got to taste it or taste it,
smell it and test it and gave him the okay,
I said, this is great. And they did a limit
limited drop and it sold out and like that and
did another one. But yeah, it's it's tough to get
(26:02):
your hands on. I don't know if Amazon. Yeah, that's
like five x markup. So that's you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
So wait, was there was there like a come smell
this like testing career. We had to decide between a few.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Then they just mailed me a couple of samples and I,
you know, just decided which one I like the best.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
So yeah, I mean, dude, you got your own cologne. Man.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah, like Ralph Lauren, Yeah, call me Ralph, call me Ralph.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
What else did oh? Mac Hereford told me a couple
of things today.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Oh what did he tell you?
Speaker 2 (26:36):
He said? The bananas.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Yeah, that was another little kind of funny video. I
saw something like got like a million likes of someone
just someone like taking a bite out of like the
brown spot of the banana, Like everyone.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Looks inside of the band.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
People like like love talking about how gross the brown
spot of the bananas, but like it's just banana, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
And so I look over and there's some.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Right bananas that they're gonna make for banana bread, and
I just grabbed one and record myself just house in it.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Peel and all. Yeah, peel and all. And yeah. So
that that that stirred some emotions as well.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I mean I could, I could gut anything.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
I feel like, yeah, we used to do that with
like lemon wedges. My dad said it was an Italian
tradition where you get the whole lemon wedge, eat the
whole thing, and people think I'm psycho. Then you know,
I did it in front of my wife like earlyer.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
All we were daying.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
She did it too, and I was like, but it's
a I mean, obviously that's not a regular thing for you.
I told you the mintschip, ice cream and peanut butter thing. Man,
I'm telling you, next time you go a little basket
Robins or cold Stone, get the mint, you throw a
little peanut butter in it.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
That sounds incredible. It's the texture, sound, the ratio.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
It's like I'm a big too, Like.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Wow, Like what's a good example, Like I love a
night Okay, it's cold outside.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I love a nice grilled cheese with tomato soup.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
There's just certain weathers and textures that they correspond well
on a graph.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I feel like, yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Was, I'm gonna take a shot at my buddy Alex Bachman, who.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
You just had on.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
We went out to uh oh yeah, to watch like
the sweet sixteen games at like this brewery, like great sandwiches,
burgers and all that. This dude gets a grilled cheese really, like,
come on, dude, Like it's you're in Cali. It's like
seventy degrees out. You get grilled cheese and tomato suit, Like,
come on, you can't be ordering that at.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
It' that's a that's a home cooked meal that you make.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Dansver, Colorado. Tuesday night. It just snowed four inches.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Yes, that's what that is. Wild order, I mean the
fact that I can even remember what happened, Like.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, no, you took note, Yes, took notes of this.
This guy for real, right, this guy for real right now.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Titans got top three jerseys across the board in the league.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Has to be I just.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
I mean, I love the throwbacks. It's a shame we're
not wearing the this year. I just saw that we're not.
They actually just changed the rule like two days after
we made the announcement that you're allowed to wear.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Them up to four games.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
So throw oilers.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Yes, yeah, like the I mean, dude, what what other
color than baby blue?
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Is the easier?
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Like your whole life, like you love you love the
u NC blue, like you want to play for them,
just for the colors alone. And I waited my whole
life to be able to be able to wear that
shade of blue.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
And I'm glad that I that I have been able to.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
And yeah, we're going for now our home uniforms instead
of the Navy is like the Titan blue color, which
is which is cool. So looking forward to rocking that.
And uh, we definitely got some good alternates too. I
feel like we should, we could mix it up a
little more, but I like our all whites and.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Our home uniforms will be will be sweet this year too.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Why is there such a debate between the Titans and
the Texans on who gets to.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Rock the oilers? Well, so what's the right what's the
right answer.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
It's the Titans we own, I mean we own, or
the former Oilers franchise, Like, but Adams moved from Houston
to Tennessee. They played in Memphis actually first that he
didn't know before Nashville in like ninety seven ninety eight,
I think, And I think the story goes like he
(30:15):
wanted to stay in Houston and they wouldn't build a
new stadium for him, so he's like, all right, I'm
picking up and moving to Tennessee. And then two years
later they announced the expansion team, the Houston Texans. They
build a a new stadium, and so that's kind of
how the the rivalry started. So you could say like
that there are definitely some Houston fans that stayed in
(30:37):
Houston and we're just going to cheer for whatever the
Houston team was. But I feel like if you're a
true fan and you're there from the jump and you're
following the team and the ownership and everything from top down, yeah,
and then there's probably a decent amount of Houston fans
that then started rooting for the Texans down there, I
mean in Tennessee. So I'd say it definitely sticks with
the Titans and just the ownership that we were once
(30:59):
actually Houston Oilers.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I mean, it's it's always a debate.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Like I feel like whenever you guys wear the throwbacks
everyone it's always chirping on socials and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Know why, I just I just got a little burst
of that equal you had today.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
M check the YouTube out. But uh, what's your biggest
strength in golf?
Speaker 4 (31:23):
It used to be probably my worst Like I used
to be. I went, I switched like it used to
be pretty automatic off the tee and it's been tough
figuring out to drive for me as of the last
few weeks at least, But I could not hit a
wedge for my life, Like I could not hit anything
from like fifty to like one twenty. I just had
to pray that I could scull it and skid it
(31:46):
up there. But I've I've finally figured out how to
like you know, get my wedges up in the air
and just yeah, I had some decent approach shots today,
the couple that weren't all that great, But I feel
feel confident from that like one ten in now, whereas
before I would have much rather been at like one.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Point thirty to hit my pitching wedge. You know, who
do you think.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Okay, this is a good this is this is this
is a loaded question.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Well, position group produces the best golfers outside of quarterback
or specialists.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yeahst the I'm not going to give you that credit.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Yeah, I mean I would say specialists. I think that
across the board you see a lot of like punters
and kickers who are pretty good and definitely because they
get some more practice time.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
But other than.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Quarterbacks, I don't know, dude, in my in my experience,
maybe just because I've played with more of them, but
there are some decent o line golfers out there. The
big boys can they can smack it and then they
got some touch to them too, like they're they're they're
used to with that. Yeah, but you know there are
(32:56):
some of maybe the dozen golfers on our team, I'd
say like five or six of them were old linemen.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
So okay, if there was a thirty two team tournament
with they had to send the best foursome from each
team who would win that tournament in the league, do
the Titans have a shot?
Speaker 4 (33:20):
I was just down in Cancun for the NFLPA Classic
and there was seventy two of US players down there
playing in a four man scramble format and I'm trying
to think of, like who the best golfers were, like
feeling Harrison, Smith Case Keenan were on the same team.
But JJ was on that team too, and I guess
(33:42):
he played really well. So maybe I'd go with Minnesota.
Maybe I'd go with Minnesota just with the Harrison and
JJ like being on that. They didn't end up winning,
but I bet they got some other good golfers over
there too.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Well, that's like the typical you're as strong as your
weakest link.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I like mcause there's probably a couple of teams out
there with one lights out dude. Yeah, but it's like,
do you have a good three four See I'm a
third guy, three four guy out of scramble.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Where if I look around and I'm like, if I'm
the worst player in our scramble, I'm feeling pretty.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Good about things. Not lights out. But you saw it.
I told you two to five, two out of five
to three out of five.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I'm gonna do my job, do my one eleventh, big
team orientated person.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I'll put first, Frankie, go for it, whatever you need.
I'm down. But I think whoever's the weakest link is definitely.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
I'd say also maybe like the cart like Arizona. I mean,
they got no excuse other than to be able to
play all year over there. You know, so some good
golf over there.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
I guess like the Bills have a shot because I
feel like they're tight ends golf lot, Josh Golf's I'm
sure they got one, dude.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Now, if you had to make it two on offense,
two on defense, that might spice this up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
That might spice things up a lot actually. And then
the Masters are coming up this week. Who you got
win in it? I'm going Scottie.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
I mean, I know it's the favorite, but you know
you can't bet against Scottie. You know, he's the golfer
of our generation or I guess Tiger that I guess
you could count that my generation. But like, he's you
know who we have right now, and it's it's it's
it's only right for us to route for him into
and to chase Tiger in that way. But yeah, it's
(35:22):
gonna be an awesome week, dude. I went the last
couple of years. Like I said, I was grateful to
go with my dad last year and the coolest experience
I've ever had with him and one of the top
experiences in my life too.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Okay, let's say you win the Masters, you personally, what
is your dinner for the following year?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
An an app?
Speaker 1 (35:43):
A first course which is like a solid soup, things
that nature, A main Okay.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Dessert app.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
I know it's not a traditional app, but I'm gonna
go pizza, and I'm gonna go New Haven style pizza
where I'm from the best pizza in the world, So
definitely gonna have a cheese pizza.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Can't go wrong with the cheese. The mussarell and uh
what they're known for.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
They actually got voted multiple times the best pizza in
the country.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
It's for their white clam pizza.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
So it's a white pizza, you know, with like basil, oregano,
garlic and.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Baked clam on top.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
And I don't love clam, so I'll usually do shrimp
instead of the clam. Throw some bacon on there, and
then you get a little fresh mozzarel on there. Oh
so good, and then probably like my favorite pizza top
in combo other than that would be sausage and cherry pepper,
So like.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
A cheese pizza.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Pretty specifically, yes.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
It's my favorite kind of pepper on a pizza for sure,
a little bit sweet, little bit of spicy pizza.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Spread for the app soup, soup salad.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
I'm gonna go in New England, clam chowder bread bowl
og love that. Yeah, also kind of them to my
roots there, you know, going to my my grandparents spot
in Cape Cod like digging for clams and making homemade
clam chowder. We're lucky, lucky enough to get a bread
bull from the bakery down the street or something that's
just a delicacy.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
And then from Maine, Maine, I'd probably go. I gotta
go steak.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
I gotta go just a you know, a nice medium,
rare rabbi, you know, you know, gotta get some good
sides in there, maybe like a lobster mac and cheese
maybe and a nice loaded baked potato or like mashed potato, something.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Along those lines.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
And then dessert, I'm gonna keep it simple. I think
that the best way to do dessert is a warm
baked good with some with some vanilla ice cream, so
probably like some sort of lava cake with Yeah, we
talked about the slutty brownies my sister makes. She's she's
been living at the house. She's an amazing baker. You
got the brownie with the chocolate cookie and then an
(38:00):
oreo on top, So I might go with that. Man,
I'll go with my sisters slutty brownies. That that is
different with a scoop of vanilla ice cream, nothing better.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Do you think you could win the Masters if you
started on the greens? I know, let me get, let
me get.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
We could use some math here. I don't have a
written down. I did this like last week.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I think the course record is like a sixty two
at Augusta, Yeah, or.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Maybe it's a sixty three. So you'd have to shoot
a sixty two. You would average a little under.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Like if you did a three shot a three put
every hole, you'd win lights out.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
I think it'd be like three. You have to average
like three point four.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Are you starting on like the furthest away possible.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Forest way possible for the pin?
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
So if you're if it's pin high, you're starting total
other side. You can't you three to four put your
way to a green jacket.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
What if you end up in a bunker, do you
have to hit the hit the putter out of the bunker? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Say you do such a crappy put.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
On Augustus Greens that could very well happen.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
I'm gonna, dude, I don't think so. No, I don't
want to put myself through that. Like that's maybe if
you get me like a few days to like play
the greens and try to figure it out. But yeah,
I don't know. Maybe a Caddy would be able to
help me. But yeah, I'm gonna say no, dude.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
I was.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
I caught myself watching a crazy video on Augustus Greens
the other day and just like how minuscule the actual
like landing spots are before the ball is able to
just roll off and crazy be impossible. So yeah, I'm
I'm gonna keep it to the professionals on that one.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
They're so good.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
It's funny how the growing up and I know we're
both relatively new to golf. Like, growing up, I would
skip the golf channel constantly.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Oh yeah, now a.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Nice little Saturday morning like this time of year, turn
that puppy on.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah, the voices of Golf two are just so lights out.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
You know, I can't so I'm leaving. Saturday night, I
was deciding my sister's visitings. She's taking the red Eye
out Saturday night, and I was like, you know what,
the red red Eye out Saturday, get in Nashville Sunday morning,
maybe a quick hour or two nap, wake up at
eight o'clock whatever, just in time for jim Nantz to
just lull me into Masters Sunday. It just sounds like
(40:19):
a great end of the weekend there.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Iconic with it. Yeah, iconic with it. Uh. I mean, well, dude,
this has been great. Man.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
I don't got much more to say, but like I
just I want to tip my hat to you because
it's no secret like you've had to face adversity from
a personal level, but like when you're at your level
of professionalism where this camera's on you, you've handled it
like a champ.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
And I think you know, bring the juice.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Audience is full of former athletes, current athletes, the young
and come next generation soccer moms, and like, it's appreciated
that you talk in such high regard to yourself and
the mindset.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
What you attack rate is when adversity strikes. Because you know,
we're playing sports.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
But you might be a baker going through a tough time.
You might be a mechanic. You might be a stay
at home mom, might be an onion farmer. You don't
know what's happening. But no matter what you do in life,
in some way, shape or form, adversity is gone to
strike and it's how you respond. And I you know again,
I tim my hat for the way you handle yourself
(41:24):
and go about yourself as a professional.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
And thank you, dog, I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I want to I think we got to break sixty
six next time. Yeah, I'm gonna get you out to
president for one of the golf tournaments this year.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
I swear to God, will uh nothing not going through Dallas.
We're not going through.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Oh gosh, don't bring me back to that story. Jeez.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
But Na, man I it like I said, it's appreciative
of your time. And I hope you find tune of
the golf skills and tune up the quarterback skills.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Is even harder because I know you're working at it.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
But thank you, appreciate you, appreciate the hospitality, You good
anything else?
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Yeah, no, I'm good. Thank you so much for having
me on.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
And you know, always always good talking to you and
talking life, talking ball, talking everything.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
So glad I could finally, get on the.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Pod, get you out to the uniform, stay fired up.
Follow will. Buy some mayonnaise, okay, buy some mayo.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Throwing it into coffee and feeling crazy. Put some peanut
butter on some mid chip ice cream.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Buy some hat subscribe on subscribe, resubscribe, buy some merch,
Go Titans, and see you next week.
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