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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And joining me live in the studio right now is
the opposition leader Leofanoki Airo. Good morning to you.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Lea morning Katie into your listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Now we've who yesterday a bit more detail I think
you'd have to say about the Labor a re elected
Labor government saying that they're going to commit to funding
the domestic family and Violence services for one hundred and
eighty million dollars over five years, based on the recommendations
of the Interagency Coordination and Reform Office, not as the ICRO.
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That announcement came last week at a dv rally, with
details now sort of starting to become a bit more clear,
but essentially budget twenty twenty four they say has seventy
million dollars allocated for domestic family and sexual violence and
the government says it's going to work to meet the
one hundred and eighty million dollar target has already begun
with thirty million dollars secured since budget twenty three, are
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further twenty million committed in budget twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Lea.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Is the COLP going to match this announcement?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, correct, Katie.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
So we've been very clear that this money is already
in the budget and we will support that going forward.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
That's what I wonder.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Yes, it's I think there's a bit of smoke and
mirrors happening here, Katie. To be honest, it's a couple
of weeks out from an election and Labor is desperate
for a good news story. But we are very, very
focused on tackling the root causes of domestic and family violence.
We know it is destroying people's lives, We know that
it is what police are responding to the most. We
know it is what's filling our prisons, and so we
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have to be dealing with the issue at its core,
which is why we're so focused on alcohol rehabilitation. It's
why we need to give police better powers and protect
victims by ensure that, at the very minimum, if serious
violent offenders are bailed, which we don't think they should be,
but if they are, they should be wearing an ankle bracelet.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
So Leah, from your perspective, I mean, if the CLP
is prepared to commit this one hundred and eighty million
dollars over five years, you know, prepared to do the
same basically, that's what Labour's going to do. What is
that money going to go towards.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
This is about rolling out the domestic and family violence strategy.
It goes towards funding obviously more shelters, which we have
a critical need for. There is a lack of capacity
in our shelters. We've also been very clear when it
comes to public housing that we have eight plus year
wait lists across the territory. We have people currently in
territory housing destroying those homes, crime, antisocial behavior, and if
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those people have total disregard for.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
The home they've been given.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
We want to make sure people vulnerable, people who really
need a roof over their head get one.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So how does that sort of fit in with this
TV announcement, the domestic violence announcement. So that's going to
be part of the funding. It's going to go towards
that housing.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Or no, no, that housing already that housing is already
funded by government. What we're saying is, not only are
we going to have that seventy million plus the one
eighty over the five years, we're going to strengthen the laws,
give police better powers, We're going to have mandatory rehabilitation
and behavioral change programs in prison, and we are also
going to be looking at territory housing and how we
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can strictly enforce US three strikes through out policy so
that we can get particularly women and children into a
home so they can turn their life around.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I mean that is something that we do here quite
a bit about in fact from a lot of our listeners.
So those concerns around public housing, and they're not really
like a lot of people feeling like it's not as
strongly sort of you know, held down or comply you know,
make sure that people are complying is what they should be.
But look just you know, still sort of in this space,
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but you know, looking at those programs, it's the CLP
going to conduct some kind of udit to ensure that
the programs are actually working.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Yet we've been very clear around needing to order to
make sure that what we're delivering.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
You know, this is tax payers money.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
There's only a small amount of it that it's going
into programs at work. But what we know is that
the sector is chronically has a chronic shortage, so we
recognize immediately that more needs to be done. We also
need to be dealing with the root causes though, which
is something labor continues to ignore. So through mandatory alcohol treatment,
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increased voluntary alcohol treatment, by having a compulsory behavioral change
programs within prison, by making sure we're providing greater housing
and support for women and children, and by making sure
we have electronic monitoring of perpetrators who are bailed, we
can start to deal with the root causes and better
protect victim.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I mean, there was some research I believe it was
last week released by Menzi's School of Health that it
said that that mandatory alcohol rehabilitation doesn't work. What do
you say to that?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Well, what they also said was that when it's you know,
someone's given up on themselves, are we going to leave
people to die in the gutter?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
And that's Labour's position, that's not our positions.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Is that a bit off?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
No, it's absolutely true.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
We're talking about chronically affected alcoholics. We're talking about people
that cannot help themselves. Their fe families have tried, they
probably have tried, but they are in the deep grips
of addiction. And we are not going to give up
on those people because they end up causing harm to themselves,
their community, their family, and that's unacceptable. It ends up
becoming a police issue, and our police have other things
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to do, like protecting our community. So we must have
all levels of rehabilitation, including mandatory and I've had some
really heartening conversations with the sector around what new models
we could look at.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
It does it. This is not about incarceration.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
This is about making sure we turn people's life around
and deal with demand. Because labour are only focused on
the supply of alcohol, but they're forgetting that for as
long as people are addicted, they will go to great
lengths to get their drug of choice, and our alcohol
being a predominant choice, and so we must deal with
that demand.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
All right, let's move along. We discussed yesterday the latest
COMSEXT State of the State's report. It's been released and
it makes for some pretty dire reading for the Northern Territory.
I mean, we're sitting last in six of the eight
benchmark categories and show a sharp decline in economic activity. Now,
the concept State of the State's Economic Performance did show
economic growth in the territory in the March quarter was
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down seven point seven percent on its long run average,
with next worse Western Australia showing a three point three
percent increase. Now, I will say that concept does acknowledge
it's reporting methodology a decade average figure, which was skewed
by the impects. BOOM can potentially contort that data, which
is why it also provides an annual growth rate. Leah,
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what do you make of the report?
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Firstly, Well, I think that qualification says it all that
there's no more excuses for evil Lawler and Labor. They
have done the numbers to account for impacts and it
still shows we are the worst performing economy in the nation.
This is more than five and a half years now, Katie.
What is it going to take for Labor to understand
that their policy direction is failing our community? We cannot
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have continue to have to meet going backwards, which is
why our plan and our team has the solutions to
rebuild the territory. We are very focused on economic growth
because if people don't have good jobs here, they will leave.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I mean it's easier said than done, though, right Like,
nobody wants to see the economy floundering, and I'm sure
that the current government doesn't want to sort of see
those numbers that are coming through because why would they, like, well,
you know, if the economy is failing, they're failing essentially, But.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I think their priorities are wrong. That's the issue.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
You have a labor team whose priorities and are not economic.
They're not about community safety, and that's very clear. They
have spent eleven billion dollars Katie in eight years. It's
extraordinary amounts of money, and territories feel like we have
nothing to show for it now.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Our plan is very clear.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
We need to have a strong economy so that we
can fund our schools and hospitals, keep people here with
good jobs, good pay, and cut this cost of living crisis.
And to do that, we have to be a safe
place to invest, which is why we're reforming payroll tax.
It's why we will speed up approval time times and
make the territory an excellent place to run a business.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
The government's made a number of announcements in recent days
now they clearly see gas as being the way to
get the economy moving. What does a CLP plan to
do to get the economy moving? Is gas a part
of it?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Gas has always been a part of the colp's plan.
And while labor are tied and divided on this issue,
I mean, you just can't trust labor all of a sudden,
a couple of weeks out from an election, They're trying
to look united on this issue, but we know that
they're not.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
They are divided on gas and can't be trusted.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
So gas is an important part, but it's not the
only part of our economy.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Lea.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Are you guys united though? Because we did catch up
with Helen's secretary of course, your candidate for Nightcliff and
ask some questions about gas. Take a listen to what
she had to say. Do you support the development of
Onshore gas?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Look, Katie, I've been involved as a Laroche senior custodian.
I'm on the Middle Arm consecutive Committee. Larity of people
have not given permission for that idea. I'm dealing with
Santalk in regards to them taken over kind and regards
to pre pipelines to harbor. I'm not happy with any
of that at the moment because there is still settlement,
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waste and contamination in the harbor from the previous developers
gas or businesses that haven't even been cleaned up yet.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
All right.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I know, as a last Facardian, we have not given
approval for the Middle Arm. We are still having discussions
about it.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
So that was Helen's secretary, your candidate for Nightcliffe on
the show last week. I mean, you guys divided on gas.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
She's talking about Middle arm and the fact that this
government haven't done the work to secure She.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Then talks about Santos so as well.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Well, that's offshore gas, so we're not talking about right, No, no, no,
She's talking about the approvals process that this government has
failed to go through and a lack of consultation. What
we know that is that gas is an important part
and we're very excited about the future, but it's not
the only par We see huge economic opportunities, particularly in
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remote communities and the Bush, for agricultural development, for mining,
for tourism, and for defense.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
So we have it.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Is it a worry though, if you've got members of
your team who don't support Middle Arm? I mean, is
Middle arm part of the building the economy for the COLP.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
No, it's not that, That's not Helen's position. Helen's saying
she's part of the reference group that the government have
put together and government haven't secured the approvals of Larachie yet,
which just reinforces again how far away Middle Army is
under a labor government. They talk about it as if
there's construction happening right now, but they haven't secured the approvals.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
May look.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
My specific question to her and the other candidates last
week in Nightcliffe was do you support the development of
onshore gas? Yes?
Speaker 4 (10:48):
And that was her response, Yeah, where she talked about
middle Arms, So.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
So you're saying she does support the development of gas, yes, Helen.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Helen is very If anyone talks to Helen, and I
encourage you to, she is very supportive of development because
she sees the jobs and opportunities it creates. What she
wants is for things to be done properly, and what
labor is doing hasn't been done properly. So we are
very very focused on stimulating that growth in the territory.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
But to do that, we have to.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Be a safe place to live, work and invest, which
is why at the solutions to rebuild the territory as
detailed in our plan, make sure that we empower our police,
we get our economy moving by rewriting the rules of
approval time frames and ensuring our lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Is the envy of the nation is that.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Though I mean part of the thing that's sort of
holding up. I would think even the development of middle
Arm is the approvals process. But then to the heart
of what Helen was saying is that she says the
Larter Kew people haven't approved it. So you're saying you're
going to speed those processes up. I mean, are you
doing the exact opposite of what she's saying Labour needs
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to get right?
Speaker 4 (11:59):
No, saying that Labor have not been at the table
and haven't done the work. And what you've got is
a labor government trying to make it look like Middle
Arm is a full steam ahead, And what Helen's highlighting
is actually it's right at the start. So what we
need to be doing is having the appropriate approvals processes
moved through swiftly, dealing with issues as and when they
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come up. But pushing forward now middle ARM is only
as good as getting Beterloo off the ground. That's got
to be done first.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Lookly, let's move along because I've actually got a few
listener questions that I want to get to. I've got
one here that says, Hi, Katie, can you ask Leah
is she going to take juvenile justice out of territory
families and put it back to corrections.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yes, we have maintained that position for probably six or
seven years. We strongly believe that our correctional facilities should
be run by experts in corrections. This is not about
having children in adult correctional facilities.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I want to be very clear about that.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
It's about having correctional offices with that youth experience managing
those facilities. And the reason we want to do that
is because territory families need to be focused on the
care and protection of children.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Leah, that one was from Karen from Farah, but another
one here that's come through that said morning Katie had
actually came through yesterday. Can you please ask Leah what
are the COLP going to do for Palmerston. I can't
see anything in their plan. And also for tenants that
are now getting three strikes and they're out, Where are
these people going to go?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Okay, thank you for the question. Being a Parmestan member myself,
so we are very very focused obviously on law and order,
something that Parmeston has borne the brunt of under a
Labor government. And ironically that you know the Chief Minister
seat is in Palmerston and yet we're experiencing these high
levels of crime. So community safety is obviously number one again,
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growing our economy is number two and ensuring our lifestyle
is there for all territorians.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
So I mean the ALP and not trying to get
you guys to spend money, but they've sort of announced
a whole raft of different things that they're going to
be investing in. Is that something that the CELP is
going to take going to do or are you sort
of taking the approach of actually we want to get
the fundamental right.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Well, we do need to get the fundamentals right.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
What we have is a tied, divided labor government desperate
to buy your votes. If you are out there listening,
don't be fooled by labor. This is a time where
they are going to throw money around that they don't have.
It's your money, they're spending it to buy your vote.
This is about delivering a future for the territory where
we can live free, where we can enjoy our life,
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where we can have a good job and feel safe.
And that's the proposition the CLP are putting for.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
So no pump tracks or anything from the CELP.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Well, the Council's already delivering pump tracks out at Palmerston.
So again, don't be fooled by a desperate labor government
wanting to buy your vote three weeks out from an election.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Lea, we are going to have to leave it there.
Thank you very much for your time this morning.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
As always, thank you everyone,